[00:01] hey.. is this a reasonable place to get some newbie help? I've just bought a ready built mythbuntu box but am a bit stumped as to what to do [00:18] Hello - I am struggling, no failing, to get MythTV going on Ubuntu 8.04 AMD64. Infact I seem to have gone backwards by doing what worked on an older version of ubuntu. (same TV card different PC tho) Can anyone help me please? [00:24] hello? === abarbacci1 is now known as abarbaccia [00:49] when watching HDTV my channel guide usually freezes up --- anybody else experience this? [00:56] equim--, which box? [00:57] or from where? [01:00] I'm getting there now :) [01:00] it's the camulus desktop from efficientpc.co.uk [01:04] ok, what are you wanting to do [01:06] I started it up, set my username/pass etc, then after logging in I just got a black screen with a mouse cursor... didn't have a clue what to do [01:06] after a couple of reboots I got an interface tho [01:07] interesting [01:07] and have actually watched some tv! woohoo :) [01:08] k [01:08] I think it might be a FAQ "Sometimes this occurs due to the default Theme Painter (QT). Not all video cards will properly render the fonts and images in the theme with QT" [01:09] have you tried the jabber or MSN to efficient pc? [01:10] haven't yet, no ... will prolly try if it proves to be a problem [01:10] note I'm completely new to myth tv and still very new to linux in general.... it's gonna be an experience I guess :) [01:21] tgm4883: i have to run 7.10 and i have an irman so i need to upgrade the version to 0.8.3 do you know a walkthrough on how to do that. I download it but i dont know where to unzip [01:36] alexvd_, you have to run 0.8.3 of what? [01:36] lirc [01:37] 0.8.2 is busted for irman [01:37] did you get a .deb of it? [01:37] thats just it [01:37] i dont know where to find a deb [01:38] what version is in hardy? [01:38] i think that is 0.8.3 [01:38] sec [01:38] like i said i am not yet ready to upgrade to the newest ubuntu. so i need to run the 7.10 and just update lirc from 0.8.2 to 0.8.3 [01:40] a .bz2 file is archive i dont think that is a deb right? [01:40] hardy has 0.8.3~pre1-0ubuntu7 [01:40] you could try installing that if you like [01:40] no, .bz2 is not a .deb file [01:40] http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/lirc [01:41] otherwise, you will probably have to compile it [01:58] yeah i saw that [02:19] anybody solve the "my-volume-always-resets-to-69%-for-each-recording" problem?? [02:19] :-\ [02:42] * wilberfan resets his volume again [03:43] Seeking some help on PVR350 and MythTV - remote is having some funniness and I'm trying to get help tracking down the lack of allignment [03:46] hello? [03:48] you can use irw to see which buttons do what, then modify files in ~/.lirc accordingly [03:48] that's what I am pretty sure i've done, but i'm not getting consistent results... let me take a look at the /home/mythtv/.lirc [03:49] which version of mythtv? [03:49] or mythbuntu for that case [03:50] 8.04 ubuntu / MythTV 0.21 (install through apt) [03:50] ok good, that should have a .lirc folder in the user's home dir who runs the frontend [03:50] different files in there for different applications [03:50] I'm assuming i should be modifying a ~/.mythtv/lircrc [03:51] no [03:51] there should be a ~/.lirc [03:51] with a mythtv file in there [03:51] ok, there's no .lirc file, there's a .mythtv directory, which contains lircrc [03:52] no .lirc is a directory [03:52] yeah, no directory [03:53] i'm wondering if those are the substitute files/directory [03:53] do dpkg -l mythbuntu-lirc-generator |grep ^ii [03:53] as root or mythtv [03:53] also are you logged in as the user who runs the frontend? [03:53] doesn't matter [03:54] i usually log in as a different user - but i have a myththbutu initiated setup [03:54] so myth runs as mythtv [03:54] no mythbutu-lirc-generator [03:54] ok so check /home/mythtv/.lirc [03:55] yeah, no directory .lirc, only thing related is /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc [03:58] there is a full config there in lircrc [04:01] work with that then, I wonder why you don't have the directory [04:02] did you build from source, or upgrade from 7.10 ? [04:03] where exactly is the setting that makes myth backend load up everytime the computer is turned on. As I want to turn it off [04:03] now my buttons are registering like "Pause Hauppauge_350" [04:04] with the Hauppauge_350 ending, I shouldn't have to include that portion right? [04:05] !pastebin [04:05] http://paste.ubuntu.com/11783/ [04:05] thats what they should look like [04:06] I don't have any remote directives in my lircrc [04:08] I think you can ignore that [04:08] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11785/ [04:09] did you set this up with MCC? [04:09] mcc? sorry, not familiar with that one [04:09] mythbuntu control centre [04:09] don't think so [04:09] did it yourself then? [04:10] most of it [04:10] except for apt doing setup [04:10] well you can continue doing that if you want [04:10] but its a lot easier if you install mythbuntu-control-centre and use that [04:10] would using mcc be easier in your opininon? [04:10] hmm [04:10] it will do everything for you [04:10] another package ? [04:10] well I'd recommend using it to setup as much as you can [04:11] maybe backup your lirc files you have been making so you can have them [04:11] lol, well, its partially setup [04:12] hey, at least a few more buttons are workin! [04:12] lol [04:12] so many buttons to configure [04:12] volume keys aren't doing right by me [04:13] and the Stop button is playing ClosedCaptioning for me =) w00t [04:13] maybe i'll try the control center [04:13] guess i'm logging in as my user, and transfering the config... lets see if this works [04:13] thx for pointing me [04:17] doesn't look like its going to help much specifically on my remote [04:17] its using the same configurations I think [04:19] do you know how to gain access to the second tuner for recording on the PVR350? [04:21] it only has one tuner [04:21] the 500 has 2 [04:21] ha, knew i did something wrong in hardware land =) [04:21] i'll live [04:23] yeah, button configs are no different [04:23] looks like its going to take hacking manually [04:24] the 350 can output as well [04:24] but only has one input [04:25] it outputs through the svideo connector correct? [04:33] what's the mythtv button for buttons like TV, Videos, Music, Pictures, and Radio? [05:09] what's the mythtv button for buttons like TV, Videos, Music, Pictures, and Radio? [05:16] Anybody up for (what's probably another) PVR-150 blaster question? [09:38] Hi, I just installed mythbuntu 8.04 and restored my database. Is it normal that my tunercards are not detected yet? === Penfold_ is now known as Penfold [15:12] anyone get lots of "1008-0" channel adjustments when QAM scanning? I have HDHR. [15:41] DVD's will not play in my mythbuntu box? [15:41] anyone know why? [15:43] sardiskan, have you enabled proprietary codecs in mythbuntu-control-centre? [15:45] and are you able to play dvd's using MPlayer or Xine outside of the mythfront-end? [15:51] hmm [15:51] probably not [15:52] let me check that [15:52] ok, enabling now [15:53] jeepers [15:53] * sardiskan = dumb [16:18] ok, so now it plays...but the DVD menu is VERY VERY slow [16:18] like it will play a little bit of the motion, then just stop [16:18] then it will play some more...then just stop [16:21] I can hear the 20th century fox theme...but the video isn't showing up. [16:21] WTH? [16:21] what's your hardware like? [16:22] close your frontend and in a terminal type "vxinfo".. does it list an adapter or "no adapter found" ? [16:22] er [16:22] xvinfo [16:22] hang non [16:22] on [16:23] the hardware is the following: [16:23] intel P4 3ghz processor, 2G memory, 250G SATA HDD [16:23] on board audio [16:23] speaking of which...the audio is choppy [16:24] I'm playing a DVD and I can't see the video at all...but I can hear the audio...which is choppy [16:24] what graphics card? [16:24] hmm [16:24] do normal mpeg2 files work? dvd support has always been a bit flaky [16:24] crap [16:25] I don't know if mpeg2 files work...I haven't tried one [16:25] is there a way to install with only s-video active? [16:25] hang on [16:25] I don't know [16:26] I'm also not sure about my video card [16:26] it's an ATI for sure [16:26] but it came in a dell so I don't know exactly what it is [16:28] I'll try to rip the DVD and play it back to see if it works better [16:28] I had that issue this morning with a box with ati video and fglrx, had to add options in xorg.conf to get xv working properly [16:28] are you using the restricted driver? [16:29] ddgoose...I"ll try your xvinfo cmd in a moment [16:29] does the frontend HAVE to be shutdown? [16:29] you could alt tab if you have a terminal open already [16:30] I'll do that [16:30] laga: thanks for the help yesterday, it worked out perfect [16:31] ATI = ugly [16:31] it says "unable to open display" [16:31] could that be becuase the frontend is running? [16:32] yeah...ATI doesn't play nicely with linux like nVidia does [16:32] but it was a free card...I didn't want to have to replace it [16:32] yeah close frontend and try again, just to be sure [16:35] ok [16:35] almost done with the rip...I'll do it after that [16:36] how do you close the frontend anyway? [16:36] hit "esc" until it asks if you want to exit [16:37] oh that's right [16:37] d'oh [16:37] 2 minutes [16:41] brb [16:47] I have "no adapters present" [16:47] ddgoose..I am using the restricted driver...because my TV only has S-video in [16:56] you need to add options to your xorg.conf [16:57] which options? [16:57] lemme post on mythbuntu forum and I will link ya one sec [16:59] thx [16:59] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=792971 [17:00] cool [17:00] where is the xorg.conf file on mythbuntu? [17:00] -- > /etc/X11/xorg.conf [17:00] got it [17:02] add them after the commented out options before the "Identifier" portion [17:03] you need to reboot or go to console and do "/etc/init.d/gdm restart" to make it active [17:06] brb smoking a brisket.. have to add chips :P [17:06] http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-612-1 - security vulnerability in openssl.. for those using ssh keys or ssl certificates [17:07] hello [17:07] thx ddgoose...I'm trying those settings now [17:08] is there someone who can help me? *g* [17:08] maybe [17:08] ok, i m trying to get mythtv running [17:09] first i tried it on a clean ubuntu 8.04 [17:09] and now im trying it on mythbuntu [17:09] but i have absolutely no idea what to do... well im new in the "linux business" [17:09] well my problem [17:10] OMG ddgoose...that was TOTALLY the problem...works GREAT now...even the audio isn't choppy [17:10] when i start mythtv i get a error message that there is no upnp available [17:11] after that i have to type hostname, databasename, user and password (i didnt fill out anything before) [17:11] after pressing next i get 2 options [17:11] which i do not mark [17:12] and after that i get the message "cannot login to database" [17:12] i think it has to do something with the sql stuff, but i have no idea what [17:12] ok, mythbuntu automates all of the install...you shouldn't have to type in anything different to setup the backend/frontend [17:13] back [17:13] well, i didn't type anything, but i am always getting that "no database" error [17:14] sardiskan: no problem, glad I could help [17:16] MythbuntuGuest08: was your second install a clean install? or an overlay on the previous 8.04? [17:17] what exactly was the problem? [17:18] what was causing the video to not work AND the audio to be choppy and scratchy [17:18] sardiskan: no xv extension [17:18] so it was using x11 overlay [17:18] what is "xv" [17:19] do I still need the proprietary video drivers since I'm using xv now? [17:19] the second one is a "live boot" [17:19] nothing installed jet, just running it from cd [17:21] sardiskan: xv is the X Video overlay, it's what allows you to take advantage of your video cards accelerated overlay subsystem [17:22] MythbuntuGuest08: not sure about the live cd , you may want to install and try it that way. someone else may have a better opinion/answer [17:22] cool [17:22] you're good [17:22] you're real good [17:24] ok, i'll try that... and after install - do i have to type something in "master backend information"? the fields of password and server are empty right now [17:24] I think its filled on the actual install but I can't recall. [17:25] been a few days since I ran the installer [17:25] ok, i give it a try [17:25] thanks for the help [17:25] sardiskan: yeah you want to keep using the restricted driver. [17:25] yes...the DB is filled on install...but you have to tell it to run the mythdbfiller....it comes up [17:26] thx ddgooes [17:26] er [17:26] ddgoose [17:26] no problem, your welcome [17:27] laga you around? [17:28] yes [17:28] I noticed in Baz that "/debian/Readme.debian (revision 78)" has the stuff from the wiki, do you have a new commit coming? [17:29] no [17:29] i finally need to get that SRU to happen. [17:29] and update the .pdf which has all information now [17:31] is the .pdf live somewhere? [17:31] the bzr tree or the pdf itself? [17:32] just the pdf, thought I would take a look [17:32] www.mythbuntu.org :) it's the documentation [17:32] it's not completely up to date.. we dont have a documentation team unfortunately, so everyone contributes what they can squeeze in between feature freeze and release ;) [17:35] how can I get involved with helping on documentation? [17:37] ddgoose: you can get a bzr checkout of the mythbuntu-documentation branch, i guess you know where to find it :) see the README for a list of packages you'll need. the documentation is split into smaller .tex files which you can edit. [17:37] if you'd like to contribute to the diskless documentation, it'd be a good idea to make me commit my changes first ;) [17:37] hehe [17:40] is there anything you're interested in? some parts are more lacking than others [17:52] eyes on the whole thing, but mainly diskless currently [18:04] hi everyone ... is there a way to tell mythtv to output AC3 before MP2 audio streams by default? [18:14] laga: I am open to working on whatever there is a need for. so if you have suggestions of where to start that would be good. [18:21] laga where is the README with the package list? [18:25] nevermind I found it [19:01] ok, here is a new question. I ripped a DVD to an ISO file...but now I can't see the file to play it within mythtv frontend [19:01] do I have to import it or something [19:03] keeps saying "No files found" within the "Media Library" "Watch Videos" section. [19:06] but I can browse to the directory they are suppose to be /var/lib/mythtv/videos/ and the file is there [19:14] hi @ all [19:23] sardiskan .. you need to go an edit the video library .. I think it's under settings / manage videos or something like that .. I do beleive you need to do that once before watching the iso [19:30] It is already set to the correct location [19:31] I see it [19:31] thx [19:41] my experience I had to actually "edit" each file for them to show in the listing under videos [19:41] I see it now [19:41] thx [19:41] I don't know what the "Unknown" and "?" are about [19:41] how do I change that? [19:50] try to pull down the info from IMDB .. that may fill those items in [19:50] sardiskan: hit the right arrow key->search [19:51] should fill in the imdb info [19:51] if not you can search imdb by hand and enter the number yourself [19:58] ahh [19:59] I have a remote...and all of the buttons do not send a signal to the server....why is that? [19:59] what remote do you have? [19:59] hang no [20:00] on [20:00] right arrow key on keyboard will work also [20:00] the right arrow works [20:01] I have this remote [20:01] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16880121003 [20:02] that should work .. you'll need to tweak your lircd.conf and .lircrc .. but that's manageable [20:03] about 15 buttons don't send a valid code to the box [20:03] the rest do [20:04] and in fact...the rest seem to do the correct function [20:05] when you use irw in a command prompt .. do codes show up for each button? [20:06] * sabhain has a similar remote .. takes a little kicking but it should do the job [20:08] how do you set that up? [20:08] how do I know i have the rigth remote setup in the mythbuntu setup [20:16] guys i'm having a problem trying to install mythvideo, getting errors with libxml-sax-expat-perl and libxml-libxml-perl http://pastebin.com/m65a9befd [20:32] run sudo apt-get -f check [20:32] then try again [20:36] sardiskan are you able to run the command "irw" in a terminal window? Should just drop a line and stay blank. Then push a button on the remote. [20:37] I chose the "mce old version" in the control center .. it had the right codes for the buttons, but not all buttons were assigned a task .. I found a website like "lircd configurator" or something that was helpful. [20:39] his remote uses mceusb2 [20:45] sabhain: this site? --> http://lircconfig.commandir.com/configure/ [20:46] Hi, I want to add my second pvr150 card, but when I add /dev/video1 to the list it turns into /dev/video0 instead [20:47] is this a known bug? [20:47] no [20:47] what do you mean add it to the list? [20:49] sabhain...I was able to run irw fromthe CLI [20:49] at the backend, you have option 2 the capture cards menu [20:50] then you can add a new capture card [20:50] But I can only add /dev/video0 [20:50] If I add /dev/video1 it turns into /dev/video0 anyway... [20:50] mplayer can play from /dev/video1 though [20:50] are you manually typing it in? [20:51] yes [20:51] when I press buttons on the remote...I get text like this: [20:51] hmm, perhaps thats the problem [20:51] "00000000037ff07bdc 00 Back mseusb [20:51] I think so too [20:51] let me check [20:51] you should be able to select it with the remote [20:52] that IS the problem [20:52] should I file a bug, because with some of the numeric value lists you are not allowd to type the value, this should be the same [20:53] so you can't select /dev/video1 with the remote? [20:53] i'll have to check it when I get home [20:54] I can check it with the keyboard as well [20:55] but then using the arrows instead of typing [20:56] Now I just need to get it to boot in time for a recording like it used to [20:57] But I know how that is done, but I have to wait for the old recordings to be transferred from my network disk. Which will take the whole night... [20:57] What is actually the fastest way to back stuff up? [20:59] hey guys [21:00] has someone running a mythbackend + frontend system with working suspend , s3 ? [21:01] i'm running mythbuntu 8.04 and not be able to get this thing done .. :\ [21:01] you want it to wake from suspend as well? [21:01] In order to record stuff... [21:01] I have looked at it a little more than a year ago and couldn't find how to do it. [21:01] yes as well .. but also manual wake up with wol .. [21:02] But since suspend isn't reliable I wouldn't recommend using it for this kind of things [21:02] WOL works fine .. but mythbackend needs zu be restarted everytime after resume from suspend [21:03] But probably other people here are more educated on this. I just let it shut down and wake up for the recordings [21:03] and what instead ? :) [21:04] Just a full poweroff [21:04] with mythwelcome right ? [21:04] and use nvram wakeup or acpi to let it wake up [21:04] yes [21:05] That is what I had (and will do after everything is set up fine, just reinstalled to get mythbuntu) and it worked perfectly [21:06] is it possible to initiate the mythwelcome shutdown manualy? [21:07] so i can run this instead of standard suspend mode wich is running with pm-utils [21:07] yes, it knows when it has booted automatically and then it will shut down automatically. But when you started it manually it will stay awake until you exit mythfrontend [21:07] and he wakesup if there is something to record .. or i but it on manualy [21:08] you can still set it up to wake on lan as well [21:08] yes [21:09] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/System_wakeup [21:09] That might help you out [21:11] thank you .. i'll try mythwelcome instead of pm-utils .. ;) [21:11] strange [21:12] I'm looking at the lircd.conf file and all the codes are in there that match what I see from running irw [21:12] but when I'm in mythtv...nothing comes up for those 15 buttons [21:14] what controls what each code sends to the mythtv server? [21:15] balachmar: are you using suspend s3 mode ? or let you mythwelcome shutdown the pc completely? [21:16] peoples_: I let it shutdown completely. [21:18] ah k .. thats the point .. i'll use suspend .. but it seems mythwelcome only works with complete shutdown .. ? [21:18] sardiskan, the answer to that is found in your .lircrc file [21:19] peoples_: Then I don't know how to do it. [21:19] under /home/usernam/.lircrc? [21:19] I don't see anything but several includes [21:20] sardiskan: try this, go to your home dir, "mv .lircrc .lircrc.bak" then "mythbuntu-lirc-generator -L " [21:21] I ran into that too .. and since on my FE's I only run mythbuntu, I just made a .lircrc that had the commands directly [21:22] if you want a single file do "mythbuntu-lirc-generator -L -l .lircrc" [21:23] that command just recreated what was already there [21:23] do I need to restart the ir service? [21:24] probably doesnt know what to do with the extra keys I guess [21:27] sardiskan, take a look at your ~/.lirc/mythtv or whatever the includes is pointing too .. what's in there? [21:38] I see it...I can add the names and relate that name to a character [21:38] cool [22:02] gotta go .. good luck sardiskan [22:05] thx man [22:05] you have all been great [22:12] So. I'm running a clean ubuntu 8.04 on my laptop. My other computers are running MythBuntu 8.04. Can i install the frontend on this computer and how? [22:13] this computer = laptop ;) [22:13] yes you can...to install just use the mythbuntu frontend [22:14] sardiskan: how do you mean? [22:19] Nikas, install mythbuntu-control-center, you can activate the frontend from there [22:19] alternatively, you can install the frontend packcage [22:19] I believe it is called mythtv-frontend [22:21] i used.. some page :) [22:21] http://www.mythbuntu. [22:21] org/existing-ubuntu [22:21] from the MythBuntu 8.04 install pdf :) [22:30] laga what tex editor are you using? I checked out a couple but kile seemed like it was going to do the trick, any opinons? [22:38] ddgoose: i used vim or kate ;) [22:38] ok [22:39] so far kile is pretty slick