[00:35] Hi, ufw doesn't start by itself unless previously asked to, right? === neophyrigian is now known as Deniz_Ogut [01:56] hello. I am currently running 7.10 still (8.04 was just way too buggy), [01:57] but considering using the backport repository for gutsy. [01:57] has anyone else had sucess with this? [03:31] dont have sound..can someone help ;)) [03:31] onboard realtek ac97 [03:31] works fine windows,,last I checked hour or so ago [03:47] I have an older system with 128 MB of RAM. Should I install 8.04 or should I go with an older version? And are there specific install options I should use? [03:52] genericuser1234, good luck..so far seems very dead here,,I asked something 10 minutes ago so far no reply...who knows maybe they are in diff. time zone ;) [03:53] genericuser1234, me, no sound: onboard realtek ac97...only distro so far ive tried not to give me sound ;) [03:53] checking ubuntu forum. [03:54] genericuser1234: I think someone decided that the minimum with a standard install was 196mb [03:58] !lowmem [03:58] For installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements. [03:58] Wow, thanks guys! [04:04] !realtek [04:04] Factoid realtek not found === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [05:47] I made a post here with details to my problem. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=792171 anyone care to help? [05:50] ahh... there we go. Kept telling me my nickname was owned by someone else... [07:20] hello all [11:33] hello. im having a problem installing xubuntu. in the middel of instalation, it switches the resolution to something that my screen doesnt support [11:33] i have no idea what its trying to set it to :( [12:06] hi everyone! [12:07] I need some help, I had setup an app to autostart and it worked, but then I changed the display from the one connected to vga to a dvi display, and now it doesn't work anymore, how can i fix that? [12:11] Any1? [13:23] does network manager use wpa_supplicant? [13:37] Hands up if you've had problems with dual monitors on 8.04/fglrx... Can anyone help me get the full resolution on my cloned 2nd monitor please? It's currently limited to the res of my laptop screen [13:38] Laptop screen 1280x800 - Monitor can do 1680x1050 [13:38] Has always worked fine with past versions but since upgrading it's stuck on 1280x80 [13:39] ati catalyst control centre only gives option of 1280x800. screens& Graphics doesn't detect the monitor anymore, I can set it to generic and set the resolution but it wont work === vargavind is now known as ces [14:34] how do i connect a vpn connection? [14:51] kripz, i think network manager has build in support for it, you might wanna try google for that [15:56] I have no start menu it was there now all the sudden it is gone running the 8.04 [15:57] anyone here [15:59] When I lost the start menu I had to add it again [16:00] using "Add new item" (rightclick in panel) [16:00] But you dont need it, you can probably rightclick the desktop (background) and get the menu. [16:01] David-A: that's disabled by default [16:01] (I still use xubuntu 7.10) [16:02] ("disabled by default" so to enable it one needs the menu? :-) [16:03] David-A, i think TheSheep misunderstood you and ment the right-click-on--menu [16:03] *desktop-menu [16:05] is there a seperate wubi channel? [16:05] I'm getting busybox at bootup, and they're mount errors .. I was being assisted by someone at UbuntuForums but it's been a week and I haven't gotten a reply, can someone please see my thread and help me out? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=784592&page=2 [16:09] ablomen: yeah [16:09] Danish989: i have this problem SOMETIMES too in my 7.10 [16:09] and i set it up to run from my 4gb pendrive [16:10] anyway, when i get this screen, (for a noob like me) i just type 'return' and enter [16:10] MiKa| : what does that do? [16:10] it will list the few lines again (from 'Busybox' line to (initramfs) line) [16:10] then i type in 'return' for a second time [16:10] and it will continue to boot [16:10] XD [16:11] that's how i do it, and i dun exactly know what is the problem [16:11] MiKa| : and then it boots ubuntu fine? [16:11] yes, two 'return's and it boots fine [16:11] MiKa|: that's crazy enough to try .. I'll give that a shot too, I'm tired of this problem, it's been a week and still no solution [16:12] lol [16:12] it's just my noob answer [16:12] XD [16:14] do tell use the result [16:14] us* [16:28] David-A: even when i minimize applications they are not there anymore I can right click to access everything but the clock is gone and the bottom panel is gone too [16:30] when i go to settings manager and click panel nothing happens [16:30] everything else works on settings manager just not that [16:30] narothepharoh: can you open terminal? [16:31] TheSheep: yes [16:31] narothepharoh: try typing 'xfce4-panel' in the teminal and see what happens [16:32] TheSheep: everything came back but it looks like the terminal is stuck [16:32] as soon as i close the terminal everything goes away [16:34] narothepharoh: do it again, but this time add '&' at the end of sfce4-panel [16:35] narothepharoh: when you close the terminal the panel that you started in the terminal dies. [16:35] narothepharoh: Before that your panel died by its own somhow [16:35] press alt-f2 and start the terminal from there [16:36] Can you see somthing suspicous in: less ~/.xsession-errors [16:36] David-A: yes thats right [16:37] zoredache: I did that and still no panel this is what it says...narothepharoh@narothepharoh-desktop:~$ ** Message: xfce4-panel already running [16:39] David-A: how do i access that? [16:40] Open .xsession-errors in a texteditor of your choise or in a terminal type: less ~/.xsession-errors [16:42] Do you guys think Xubuntu would run well on a PIII 1 GHz system with 384 MB RAM? [16:42] /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... [16:42] /etc/profile: 29: [[: not found [16:42] Setting IM through im-switch for locale=en_US. [16:42] Start IM through /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput [16:42] .d/default. [16:42] ** Message: Querying XINPUT extension [16:43] Medieval: it would probably run ok... memory hungry apps like firefox/open office might not be that great [16:43] ** Message: XINPUT extension found [16:43] ** Message: Querying Xkb extension [16:43] ** Message: Xkb extension found [16:43] ** Message: Querying XF86Misc extension [16:43] ** Message: XF86Misc extension found [16:43] ** Message: Querying Xkb extension [16:43] ** Message: Xkb extension found [16:43] ** Message: another SSH agent is running at: /tmp/ssh-UcJrLB5560/agent.5560 [16:43] ** (update-notifier:5748): WARNING **: already running? [16:43] GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x805e110: NP_GetMIMEDescription [16:43] GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x805e110: NP_GetMIMEDescription return [16:43] GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x805e110: NP_GetValue [16:43] GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x805e110: NP_GetValue: returning plugin name. [16:43] GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x805e110: NP_GetValue return [16:43] !pastebin | narothepharoh [16:43] narothepharoh: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [16:43] GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x805e110: NP_GetValue [16:43] : [16:43] sorry [16:43] yes there are errors [16:43] hi [16:44] my internet is freezing up now too it wont open [16:44] i think i might be affected by the recent openssl bug, however the dowkd.pl utility doesn't work here [16:44] "no suitable blacklist" is all i get [16:44] is there some official statement for ubuntu-users about how to react on that issue? [16:44] Medieval: "?Xubuntu would run well on a PIII 1 GHz system with 384 MB RAM?". Yes, I have exactly that, well, I have only 933MHz PIII. [16:45] for the moment everybody just seems to copy and paste the debian statement [16:45] zoredache: I've been trying to help a friend get it on her system. It seems to have problems booting up on her old system. I don't have access to her system but she posted this a while ago : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4877990 [16:45] squirrelpimp: what is wrong about the debian statement? [16:46] the linked dowkd.pl utility does not work on my ubuntu machine [16:46] or at least i'm not able to interpret the above error message correctly [16:47] David-A: She has Windows XP on that machine at the moment; she was complaining that it gets pretty sluggish. I figured it was a nice chance to introduce her to the penguin, but Xubuntu Hardy Heron has problems booting up on her machine [16:47] ./dowkd.pl user / host / file do not work altogether [16:49] narothepharoh: if you press SPACE in less youll see more of the .xsession-error file. Scoll with space or up/down arrows, see more "less" help with "h". [16:50] squirrelpimp: why not go find the people that wrote that script or ask the people in #debian? [16:50] i just thought i might not be the only xubuntu-user affected and folks in here might have already discussed the issue [16:51] narothepharoh: the panel problem might be near the end of the file. or maybe not, i dont know. [16:53] Medieval: I had stability problems with my graphics card until i changed in xorg.conf. (Geforce and AGP). I dont have wireless. Do you know what the problem might be. [16:55] Medieval: I think plain XP should run fine on 384 MB. If its sluggish, maybe its viruses, spys or adware? (Im no XP expert, just what Iv heard) [16:57] David-A: I wish I had access to her system but no, I am really not sure. It also threw an I/O error once - "Buffer I/O error in device sda logical block 0". I wonder if the hard disk drive is messed up but XP installs fine on it. [16:59] David-A: Yes, should be all the spyware but I am sure it'll be a lot more snappier with Xubuntu. Atleast she would not need to worry about the viruses. I am hoping she'll like Xubuntu enough to install a linux distribution on her new machine as well. [16:59] Medieval: Is that during install or boot? No idea, but a hunch: if during install, there might be a setting in bios to protect the boot sector of the harddisk. [17:01] Medieval: The security with linux can be quite refreshing. If google warns "dont go to this page, it can harm your computer" then I go ther anyway, with NoScript of course, or with dillo to be absolutely inpenetrable. [17:01] David-A: It's during the boot. The live-cd fails to start. She did get to a point once where she says she saw white patches and a blinking cursor. I'm guessing an empty x server session or perhaps the cd is messed up and it's taking too long for Xubuntu to load up after X starts up. Maybe I should her to try burning the ISO again. [17:02] David-A: Any idea when Dillo FLTK may see a release? [17:03] FLTK. No idea. [17:07] isn't dillo dead since, like, 3 years? [17:07] "white patches" strange, something with the graphics? "blinking cursor": modern ubuntus may take some time to boot of the cd, on my pc it takes an awful lot of time for it to find the details about my hardware, or whats it doing. [17:08] TheSheep: maybe it's dead, but it's still working, so I dont mind [17:08] David-A: probably trying to do something with your hardware and failing after a timeout [17:08] David-A: like, you know, trying to enable some optimizations [17:09] Hi, ufw shouldn't start by itself unless previously asked to, right? [17:10] PsynoKhi0: ufw is not a daemon, I think [17:10] PsynoKhi0: it's just a tool for setting up the firewall that is built in into the kernel [17:11] PsynoKhi0: type 'man ufw' for details [17:11] TheSheep: I mean, I've never touched it, using firestarter instead... that shouldn't cause issues, right? [17:12] I assume that, since you are asking this question, you have some issues? [17:13] TheSheep: Dillo. They are working on a new version, based on FullTick (FLTK - Fast Lightweight Tool Kit). Big improvement over their last release. [17:13] when I type "ufw status" it tells me it's disabled but during boot/shutdown there are system messages about starting/topping ufw [17:13] TheSheep: indeed, system lockups when I try to start anything moderately taxing for the computer [17:13] Medieval: yeah, I see the announcement from 2005 [17:14] well... if listening to mp3s can be considered "taxing"... [17:14] Medieval: somehow nobody ever announces project deaths [17:14] Medieval: will she use the computer to watch DVD? then the graphics card should not be to old. [17:15] PsynoKhi0: and nothing in the logs? [17:16] TheSheep: if only I knew which ones to look at :/ [17:16] TheSheep: It's got a new maintainer now. There is a lot going on in the mailing-list. I guess they'll make an announcement when they have a release ready. [17:16] PsynoKhi0: all of them [17:17] David-A: She did use it for DVDs, yes. I'll try to find out about the graphics card but I'm guessing it should be an onboard intel chipset. [17:19] My old 8MB ATI from around year 2000 isnt good for DVD, A geforce 5200 and 6200 4xAGP works. [17:20] The latter from around 2005. [17:37] TheSheep: that syslog thingie is a mess heh... found a couple of these (though I had to do hard resets more often than I could find this entry) http://pastebin.com/m14af1335 === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [17:51] PsynoKhi0: looks bad, I'd report a bug [18:03] bunch of updates it seems... rebooting (might have ben solved then :P) === |hfsdo| is now known as hfsdo === tuna-fish is now known as tuna === cody-somerville changed the topic of #xubuntu to: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | Xubuntu 8.04 Released: http://xubuntu.org/news/hardy/release | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | IMPORTANT: Regenerate your ssh keys! See http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-612-2 for more details. [19:29] hello [19:29] anybody here [19:29] ? [19:30] hy [19:31] Hi [19:32] cool [19:32] i really like xubuntu.... [19:33] I was p lanning on using it as a fileserver, I was just wondering... how save are my files under xubuntu? I mean... under windows, unless you get a HD crash, your files are save... but what about xubuntu..? I read seomthing about some people having corrupt files using the 7.04 version [19:33] ubuntunovice, As long as you use the default file system type, you'll be all good! :) [19:33] what a relief ! :) [19:34] you really should work on getting a backup system... drives fail [19:34] I know... [19:34] never happened to me though [19:35] you? [19:35] I have had 5 drives fail in my life... 1 was completely unrecoverable and had important data [19:35] what do you do with those drives?! [19:36] I am unlucky near them... [19:36] my old hd-drives are stacked in a corner [19:37] you never know when you need a faulty hd-drive :-) [19:37] 3 of them were all in the same batch of a 20GB western digital... [19:37] the disadvantage about an old pc is that you can usualy only connect 2 HDs using those flatcables... unless you remove your CD rom of course, but I don't want to do that.. my dad has an old 40 gig HD he wants to give me, but I alreadzy have 2 HDs in those old pentium here.. it just won't fit [19:38] ubuntunovice: that isn't entirely true... if you want to spend money and have a spare pci slot you could add a sata card or another ide card [19:38] too much trouble for an 8 year old pc [19:40] what about a hdd as a secondary disk on the same cable as the cd/dvd? or are there speed/interrupt issues? [19:40] I don't really remember.. but that didn't work I believe.. it is horrible work... I guess I'll just remove the CD rom once I install xubuntu [19:41] I'll hang a 500 mb external drive on that thing and then I'll have 620 gigs [19:41] from what I understand on an ide channel all devices will operate at the speed of the slowest device... a cdrom usually will not be able to support the faster dma modes and so the drive on the same channel will not be able to suppor them [19:42] I was really surprised knoppix actually runs using kde on this old 128 mb pc I have... it's not supposed to.. at least not when you read ubuntus system requirements [19:43] ubuntunovice: any working USB hub on that computer? [19:43] yes! [19:43] with xubuntu it is autoamtically recognized... I connect my external hdd using usb [19:43] works fins! [19:43] fine [19:44] there are external USB trays where you can fit IDE/SATA drives in, might be worth considering those [19:45] you mean I can connect a flatcable to a usb device? [19:45] nope [19:46] they look like harddrive bays, that plug in on a USB hub [19:46] basically they transform a regular internal drive into an external one [19:48] actually they're more like 5'25 bays, might need extar work to get an HDD to fit [19:48] yeah, but the harddrive is clicked into something which connect using this wide connector similar to a flatcable. right.. [19:48] ? [19:48] yes [19:48] that might be an option... [19:48] you got a link? [19:48] not to a specific one, sorry [19:49] they're pretty common stuff though [19:50] ubuntunovice: go to newegg/google and search for 'usb hard drive enclosure' [19:50] my best pal ended up with 5*500GB on a Shuttle Cube [19:50] though not all at once heh [19:50] 5*500 GB whoa?! what did he need so much space for? [19:50] * zoredache places bet on it being pr0n [19:50] hrhr [19:51] the internet is for... [19:51] *sing* [19:51] "dang where's that movie?3 *click**click* "ah there... hang on you gotta listen to that album" *click*click* "nice solo eh?" [19:52] zoredache: hand over the bucks then :) [19:54] TheSheep: btw that segfault happens when I actually shutdown normally heh... somost probably not related to lockups [19:56] if running an ubuntu machine from a remote vnc login, should i not be getting updates [19:57] what do you mean by updates? [19:58] like, the icon that pops up in the taskbar [19:58] telling me i have updates [19:58] it doesnt happen [19:58] update-manager not launching on the remote PC? [19:58] you probably should be getting them. [19:58] not through the vnc session [19:59] i just went into system/admin/update man and theres like a million updates [19:59] anyway, if you want to update just start the update manager manually... [19:59] yea i realize i can do that. [20:00] i came here wanting to know how it is turned on auto [20:00] should be from start [20:00] it is listed in the 'auostarted applications' I believe [20:01] but sometimes I don't get them either... something with the authentification keys or something [20:01] apps/settings/settings manager/autostart [20:01] "sudo apt-get update" in a terminal solves it [20:02] anyway running iceWM for now so /D [20:02] :D [20:09] shouldn't my videocard appear in /proc/interrupts? I know it has an assigned IRQ [20:11] can anyone tell me why hipo cant connectd to dbus message session? [20:15] gotisch: you have dbus running? [20:15] yes [20:16] but apparently env var is not set [20:16] and using dbus-launch hipo gives other errors [20:19] How do I get xfce4 menu edit app to show me entire contents of main menu,,atm it wont show entire menu , just settings andhelp, about xfce and quit ..? ;)) [20:23] you need to inlcude the menu into the xfce menu [20:24] how [20:24] start xfce4-menueditor and somewhere include it [20:24] ? [20:24] ive looked , and ic no way to do it [20:24] you mean the menu file ,,if only I knew where to find it..assuming that is what you mean ? [20:24] you rightclick somewhere there [20:25] and do insert externmal menu [20:25] and choose system from the list [20:25] checking [20:26] yes...I see one called: --include-- system [20:26] but none of the actual entries show up at all [20:26] and ic no way to e xpand it, to get them to show up. [20:27] ah [20:27] you cant imo [20:27] great ;) [20:27] you want the submenu to show up in the menu editor right? [20:27] yes [20:27] ye i would have loved that feature too :) [20:27] I want to see command a few entries are usinkg [20:27] gotisch, :)) [20:27] dunno maybe there is a way \o/ [20:28] it would seem logical for a menu 'editor' to show all the entries ;)) [20:28] gotisch, ohwell can't have it all...so far im very happy with xubuntu. [20:28] i would be if hipo would work :> [20:29] heh [20:32] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164483#c9 [20:32] bugs.gentoo.org bug 164483 in Applications "media-sound/banshee-0.11.5 crashes when started." [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [20:32] says its gnome-session issue [20:32] related to menu editor ? [20:33] no [20:33] hipo [20:33] noone seems to be using hipo [20:33] ahhhh [20:33] start hipo! [20:33] never heard of it [20:33] and tell me if it crashes for you too [20:33] will do [20:33] its under [20:33] multimedia in the menu [20:34] checking [20:34] dont have it here..it must not be part of default install! [20:34] weird [20:34] no wonder no one uses it LOL [20:34] :) [20:34] i didnt install it though [20:34] odd [20:34] i was in the train and just wanted to recharge my ipod at usb port [20:34] maybe its in a dev build of xubuntu shrug ? [20:34] and i saw it got mounted and then i saw hipo [20:35] weird [20:40] Hello all, I can't play VCD in Xubuntu (totem) it says I don't have installed libdvdcss, but I have installed libdvdcss2, w32codecs and many other libraries, any idea? :) [20:41] I also installed VLC but did'nt work [20:41] the vlc install didnt work? [20:42] gotisch, VLC was installed ok, but couln't play the VCD either :) [20:43] For now I uninstalled both, some light video player you can recomend? [20:43] vlc :) [20:43] sorry i only use vlc [20:43] yeah vlc gets them all [20:43] usually .. [20:44] you should look in vlc message log will tell you whats wrong [20:44] mplayer [20:44] then you google the error message and in no time you have it working [20:44] vlc typically plays anything, so thats odd [20:44] nah not everything [20:44] for somethings you need the codec installed [20:45] yes [20:46] VLC didn't show an error, aparently it was playing, but there was no video and no sound :( [20:51] PsynoKhi0: I'll try with mplayer, thanks [20:51] np [21:00] There's something weird, Mplayer can't play the VCD either, but in the file types, Mplayer shows VCD as *.bin, and this VCD has .dat extension [21:01] It plasys ok in Windows and in my DVD players [21:02] The VCD has this directorys: CDI, EXT, MPEGAV, PICTURES, SEGMENT, and VCD [21:04] rtmex: does the VCD automount? [21:04] yes [21:05] give it a try after unmounting it [21:06] It automount in Thunar, but it does not launch Mplayer [21:06] I opened Mplayer and Choose to open the VCD [21:07] mplayer vcd://1 [21:07] if you open a terminal an type "mplayer" you get something like "vcd:// play (S)VCD (Super Video CD) track (raw device, no mount)" [21:08] hence my suggestion [21:08] Ok, I'll try it later, I have to go now. Thank you all for your help === PsynoKhi1 is now known as PsynoKhi0 === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [23:49] where are all the sound settings that i can tweak [23:49] in ubuntu you can test alsa options and things [23:50] i dont get sound in zsnes ... i can find the bars by typing alsamixer in terminal but thats about it