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DaSkreech!wifi00:34
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:34
nixternalw00t, got my KDE SVN, Alioth, LP, and my server SSH keys updated00:44
nixternalready to rock-and-roll now00:44
* DaSkreech plays country music00:46
Jucato:D00:46
Riddellwhere is ssh-vulnkeys?00:46
nixternaldun know00:46
DaSkreechJucato: Wi-fi Pizza and Beers! Oh My!00:46
nixternalRiddell: my upgrade included a openssl-blacklist package I think and it tested00:47
JucatoDaSkreech: geek's paradise :)00:47
nixternalit then placed the bad keys under /etc/ssh/*.broken00:47
nixternalrendering them useless from the get go00:47
nixternalseems my server had the only issue and not my laptop00:47
awen_Riddell: den er i den nyeste version af openssh-client00:49
Riddellwhit?00:49
nixternalaye, must be in the wrong channel..I have a hard enough time with english and you want to toss even more confusion my way :p00:50
RiddellI think he's saying there is a new version of openssh-client :)00:50
awen_which ssh-vulnkey | xargs dpkg -S00:51
awen_openssh-client: /usr/bin/ssh-vulnkey00:51
* Jucato can't recall when he generated his 1 and only ssh key... doesn't know if he's affected, and doesn't know how to "update" his key :)00:51
awen_openssh-client:00:52
awen_  Installed: 1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1.100:52
awen_Riddell: ^^00:52
NightroseJucato: use the ssh-vullnkey tol mentioned above00:52
RiddellJucato: openssh-server still needs upgraded from security00:52
Jucatooh..00:52
Riddellawen_: got it thanks00:52
awen_:)00:52
awen_and goodnight people00:52
ryanakcanixternal: yeah, as was said... it's more that sysadmins seem to like procrastinating...01:52
* Jucato would probably make a great sysad then :)01:56
ryanakcalol ;)01:56
nosrednaekimJucato: haha... I was shocked that they have mcDonalds in the Philipines01:56
jjesse_they have mcdonalds all over the world01:57
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nosrednaekimthen I remembered that I read somewhere that the only place they don't have McDonalds was in India.... cause they don't eat cows :P01:57
Jucatoyou're going to be shocked to learn that 1. McDonalds delivers and 2. McDonalds doesn't have refillable drinks :)01:57
nosrednaekimWHAAA!?01:57
nosrednaekimthats kinda missing the whole point01:57
jjessenosrednaekim: in fortunue magazine i read that in india it mcdonalds is chicken01:57
Jucato:D01:57
nosrednaekimhaha01:58
nosrednaekimok... I guess they made their inroads there too01:58
Jucato:D01:58
Jucatogr... stomach churning now that I heard about McDo... thanks guys!01:58
* Jucato goes for breakfast01:58
nosrednaekimhaha01:59
jjessewow its been awhile since i've done my 5-a-day03:33
ScottKjjesse: Just look at bugs subscribed to ubuntu-archive that ask for syncs and add [sync] to the title and you'll have 5 in no time.03:41
ScottKSorry.  Nothing personal it's just that that program has accomplished a lot of LP data churn but not a lot of actual progress in my experience.03:46
ScottKjjesse: Please subscribe relevant teams to bugs, not assign them unless that team has a specific policy on bug assignment.03:48
jjesseScottK: will try to assign03:51
jjessewe've had this disscussion before03:51
jjessein regards to churn vs usefullnews03:51
jjesseusefullness03:52
ScottKjjesse: No.  You did assign, you should subscribe.03:56
jjesseScottK: thought i went back and changed it to subscribe03:57
jjessesorry got confused03:57
ScottKjjesse: It's assigned at the moment.03:58
jjesseok subscribing and changing back... sorry half asleep03:58
ScottKRiddell, awen, and myself are already subscribed, so I'm not sure how much that will add though.03:58
ScottKNo problem.03:58
jjessejust trying to be as usefull as i can :)03:58
ScottKUnderstand and appreciated.03:59
jjessebeen fighting my laptop lately so haven't had much time for anythign fun03:59
jjesseon my 3rd hard drive and replacing the mother board as well03:59
jjessealready replaced my memory chips as well04:00
ScottKSounds "Fun".04:00
jjessenope makes me angry04:00
* ScottK understands.04:00
ScottKNot nearly as bad, but I'm currently trying to salvage what appears to be a corrupted .doc file for a paper one daughter needs to turn in tomorrow.04:04
jjessewow talk about preassure04:05
jjessegood luck04:05
DaSkreechno mcDonalds in Jamaica04:12
jjessewell heading to bed, good luck ScottK04:14
ScottKThanks.04:16
JucatoDaSkreech: tough luck :P04:28
DaSkreechJucato: What is?04:30
Jucato <DaSkreech> no mcDonalds in Jamaica04:31
DaSkreechJucato: Well they came. We asked them to leave04:31
DaSkreechthere was one walking distance  from my house04:31
DaSkreechThere might still be one in Montego Bay near the airport for the tourists04:32
DaSkreechThere are quite a few decent suggestions on the brainstorm05:20
DaSkreechWhy doesn't Ubuntuu use smolt?05:21
DaSkreechI like the Visual representation of updates05:49
yuriyyay for http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/346206:20
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larsivihmm, hmm - anyone had troubles printing from say Scribus? I'm getting blank sheets ...09:12
larsivistoring as pdf and printing with kpdf instead works09:14
awen_larsivi: remember having some of the same problems a year or so ago with scribus ... but as it worked using pdf i just used that10:00
larsiviawen_: It may be related to the driver, as it seems to work fine on a different printer (at least used to, it is in a different office)10:02
larsiviI had problems with scribus on this printer prior to upgrading too, but not in the same fashion10:03
awen_larsivi: what type of printer? HP?10:04
* Riddell wonders what could cause icons to go strange http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=309444310:09
larsiviawen_: yah, big sort - CLJ 4730mfp10:21
awen_larsivi: was an HP for me to ... but just a laserjet10:22
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HobbseeRiddell: if https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice/+bug/226281 is uploaded, why has it not hit the archive?13:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 226281 in koffice "Please merge koffice 1:1.6.3-5 (main) from Debian Unstable" [Wishlist,Fix committed]13:18
Hobbseeoh, my bad.13:20
* Hobbsee marks it fix relesaed.13:20
\shoh damn...installing windows is such a pain13:21
\shand all because VMware infrastructure client doesn't work with wine13:21
Tm_T\sh: I can feel your pain :)13:50
* \sh uses morphine now to prevent the his body from feeling the pain ;)13:54
sebasMorphine is the no-fun edition of Heroine?13:55
ScottKThere's always Ativan.  Feel no pain and catch up on your sleep.13:56
\shsebas, should be...13:57
\shsebas, I have to remind you, if you have a talk during linuxtag, please prepare your laptop before you present..I won't fix your vmware-server this time ;)13:57
\shor provide a lot of beer afterwards ;)13:57
Tm_Thaha13:58
\shTODO 99 : Set Done: Sebas Informed via IRC13:58
sebas\sh: And I won't use one13:59
sebas(vmware)14:00
\shTODO 101: Set InProgress 15%: Buy More Aspirine14:00
sebasI'll have KDE from trunk/ running14:00
\shsebas, aye...14:00
sebasThanks for the reminder, though.14:00
sebasNot that the vmware crap worked last year of course :>14:00
sebasNot your fault though14:01
\shsebas, that was OSLES fault ;)14:01
sebas:)14:01
\shsebas, btw...vmware-client + kwin + composite effects == more pain then windows...14:01
\shmeans...running vmware-whatever os instance in fullscreen inside kde4 with enabled effects (intel graphics), switching back from fullscreen mode==black screen afterwards...needing to switch windows via alt+tab several times to come back to normal state...14:02
\shhow can someone debug this behaviour? ,-)14:03
sebas\sh: try the update window textures setting in KWin's advanced settings14:04
sebasYou're getting "empty" textures for the windows, right?14:04
sebasAnd they reappear after having them shown once?14:04
sebaskwin@kde.org is the right list, Lubos is the right person to fix this :>14:05
\shphew14:05
\shbtw...just crashed completly from coming back from fullscreen ;)14:06
sebasThat's a different bug then ;>14:06
Tm_Tsebas: trunk <314:06
\shand I just need this installation because of the stupid vmware infra client...*gnarf*14:06
sebasIf it's critical, switch off compositing14:07
\shsebas, that's what I'm doing now :)14:07
sebaspussy ;)14:07
\shsebas, meow14:10
sebas:)14:20
Tm_Tindeed14:20
Tm_TI would love to have faster cpu and whatnot14:20
Tm_Ttakes ages to build KDE14:20
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\shTm_T, when I get my second 8 core hp server..i'll test it ;)14:41
Tm_Theh14:41
\shthe first one is now in use for esx14:41
ScottKIt's funny how the mind can 'unscramble' unfamiliar letter sequences to make them a familiar word.14:42
Tm_TScottK: xes?14:43
ScottKExcept the other way around.  Yes.14:43
Tm_T\sh: well, I now live with overloaded singlecore :)14:43
hungerWhat is borked with kdelibs in intrepid? Will it get rebuild soon.15:14
Hobbseehunger: it's marked as installable.15:28
Hobbseekdebase, however, is not.15:28
Hobbseeno sensible person would be running intrepid atm anyway15:28
hungerHobbsee: Great argument.15:31
Hobbseehunger: there are 240 packages in intrepid, on i386, that don't install at the moment.15:31
hungerHobbsee: It is marked as installable here as well, but when I ask aptitude to do that it says that it conflicts with kdelibs4.15:31
Hobbseeso, until you're actually going to do something about it, there's not a lot of point in pointing it out.15:32
* hunger shuts up.15:32
hungerHobbsee: One more question: Where did you get the number of broken packages from?15:32
Hobbseehunger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/intrepid_probs.html15:33
Hobbseehunger: there's a whole bunch of useful stuff on there15:33
Hobbseebut it doesn't track universe.15:33
ScottKBah.  No one expects that stuff to actually work anyway.15:33
Hobbseeie, so kdelibs4 won't be installable with it, rather than the other way around - the main one takes priority15:33
Tonio_Riddell ping ?16:11
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Artemis_Fowlseele: ping18:24
Artemis_Fowlseele: ignore the above ping19:04
seelehum19:26
Nightrosecan someone have a look at this please? i already fixed a few missing dependencies but now i am lost tbh - http://lydiapintscher.de/tmp/buildkhtml.txt19:50
\shNightrose: damn you, it starts now openoffice for a bloddy txt20:00
Nightrose\sh: oO20:00
\shstupid kde420:01
\shNightrose: it's not pbuilder build <foo>.dsc file and &> logfile?20:01
\shi don't see a cmake/build error at all20:02
Nightrose\sh: that is the problem..20:02
Nightrosethere is no error20:02
Nightroseand still it fails20:02
\shNightrose: there is an error..and I wonder if cmake is to blame to not show the error at all...can it be run with --verbose" somehow?20:03
Nightrosei have no idea20:03
\shcheck cmake20:03
Nightrosek wil try later - strawberries now ;-)20:04
Nightrose*will20:04
\shdamn you ;)20:04
Nightrose;-)20:04
\shbut I had asparagus yesterday ;)20:04
Nightrosedamn you :P20:04
\shharhar20:05
\shNightrose: if you want, join me and others during the weekend for some little beer and other stuff .... if this stupid weather is still being like today20:07
Nightrose\sh: will be in prague and not back before sunday night :/20:15
Nightrosewell \o/ tbh20:15
Nightrose;-)20:15
\shNightrose: ah .. forgot ;)20:17
Artemis_Fowlseele: ping20:17
\sh[20:05] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: ignore the above ping *eg*20:17
Artemis_Fowlseele: consider this ping :)20:18
\shlol20:18
apacheloggerhm20:38
apacheloggerseeing Artemis_Fowl ... I should upload kgrubeditor20:38
* apachelogger heads over to revu20:38
Artemis_Fowlapachelogger: upload where?20:38
apacheloggerto intrepid20:38
\shbah...da revu-apachelogger is back20:38
apacheloggerand get it backported20:38
Artemis_Fowlapachelogger: k20:39
apachelogger\sh: nah, not yet ;-)20:39
* apachelogger is running on eco mode :D20:39
apacheloggerI don't even have an intrepid pbuilder20:41
seeleArtemis_Fowl: pong20:44
Artemis_Fowlseele: take a look at this: http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1321706_nsnvv/KGRUBEditor43.png20:44
Artemis_Fowlseele: that's how the "info icon on the right of the list" looks like20:45
Artemis_Fowlseele: I think that a Show Details button would be better :|20:45
seeleArtemis_Fowl: ok.. do a show details button then20:46
seeleArtemis_Fowl: i think i would prefer that anyway20:46
Artemis_Fowlseele: which would work like all the others: enabled upon selecting an entry20:46
seeleor maybe just Details20:46
Artemis_Fowlseele: the thing is: put it where?20:46
seelecan you put it in the list item?20:46
seeleinstead if [i] you have [Details]20:46
Artemis_Fowlseele: replace the icon with a button? for every entry?20:47
seeleyeah, why not?20:47
seelelet me see if i can find an example20:47
seelehttp://ktown.kde.org/~fredrik/listviews/effects1.png20:48
seelehttp://ktown.kde.org/~fredrik/listviews/plasma1.png20:48
seelethe first are buttons, the second are icons like the info icon20:48
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Artemis_Fowlseele: one min20:53
apacheloggeruh21:01
apacheloggerthat dependency mess21:02
Artemis_Fowlseele: couldn't I probably put it along with the other buttons and somehow "squeeze" the Make Default and Make Fallback to fir it?21:06
Artemis_Fowlfit*21:06
seeleArtemis_Fowl: no.. it will wrap in the translations21:28
seeleArtemis_Fowl: it will probably wrap already, we should probably check21:29
Artemis_Fowlseele: screenshot is getting uploaded...21:29
Artemis_Fowlseele: what about this one: http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1321900_9lqjk/KGRUBEditor44.png?21:30
seeleArtemis_Fowl: it's going to wrap when it translates21:33
seeleArtemis_Fowl: spanish is about 30% longer and german is about 35%-40% longer21:34
seeleif the word is easily translatable21:34
Artemis_Fowlseele: in the system settings it will be mostly full screen21:34
seelei saw a one word button quadruple in size when it was translated in to german21:34
seeleArtemis_Fowl: there are minimum screen requirements21:34
Artemis_Fowlseele: I removed Make Fallback and it still won't fit :(21:35
seelei dont know what the minimum width for system settings modules are, but the entire window cant be more than 800x60021:35
seeleyeah21:35
seelethis is probably the reason i broke out the operating system details and that is where the make default and edit settings were21:36
seelebesides not fitting, it just doesnt make sense to have that many buttons there21:36
Artemis_Fowlseele: which buttons should be moved and where?21:36
seelehum.. i'll have to think about this21:39
seelebecause it's more than just moving buttons21:39
seelethe make default and fallback functions can go in the Add/Edit dialogs21:40
seelethe other question is.. if someone clicks Details, are they going to expect to be able to edit the information there?21:41
Artemis_Fowlseele: the Edit button makes it clear I think that it should be pressed in order to edit an entry21:43
jjesse_./22:14
jjesse_hrm22:14
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