[00:34] !wifi [00:34] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [00:44] w00t, got my KDE SVN, Alioth, LP, and my server SSH keys updated [00:44] ready to rock-and-roll now [00:46] * DaSkreech plays country music [00:46] :D [00:46] where is ssh-vulnkeys? [00:46] dun know [00:46] Jucato: Wi-fi Pizza and Beers! Oh My! [00:47] Riddell: my upgrade included a openssl-blacklist package I think and it tested [00:47] DaSkreech: geek's paradise :) [00:47] it then placed the bad keys under /etc/ssh/*.broken [00:47] rendering them useless from the get go [00:47] seems my server had the only issue and not my laptop [00:49] Riddell: den er i den nyeste version af openssh-client [00:49] whit? [00:50] aye, must be in the wrong channel..I have a hard enough time with english and you want to toss even more confusion my way :p [00:50] I think he's saying there is a new version of openssh-client :) [00:51] which ssh-vulnkey | xargs dpkg -S [00:51] openssh-client: /usr/bin/ssh-vulnkey [00:51] * Jucato can't recall when he generated his 1 and only ssh key... doesn't know if he's affected, and doesn't know how to "update" his key :) [00:52] openssh-client: [00:52] Installed: 1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1.1 [00:52] Riddell: ^^ [00:52] Jucato: use the ssh-vullnkey tol mentioned above [00:52] Jucato: openssh-server still needs upgraded from security [00:52] oh.. [00:52] awen_: got it thanks [00:52] :) [00:52] and goodnight people [01:52] nixternal: yeah, as was said... it's more that sysadmins seem to like procrastinating... [01:56] * Jucato would probably make a great sysad then :) [01:56] lol ;) [01:56] Jucato: haha... I was shocked that they have mcDonalds in the Philipines [01:57] they have mcdonalds all over the world === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [01:57] then I remembered that I read somewhere that the only place they don't have McDonalds was in India.... cause they don't eat cows :P [01:57] you're going to be shocked to learn that 1. McDonalds delivers and 2. McDonalds doesn't have refillable drinks :) [01:57] WHAAA!? [01:57] thats kinda missing the whole point [01:57] nosrednaekim: in fortunue magazine i read that in india it mcdonalds is chicken [01:57] :D [01:58] haha [01:58] ok... I guess they made their inroads there too [01:58] :D [01:58] gr... stomach churning now that I heard about McDo... thanks guys! [01:58] * Jucato goes for breakfast [01:59] haha [03:33] wow its been awhile since i've done my 5-a-day [03:41] jjesse: Just look at bugs subscribed to ubuntu-archive that ask for syncs and add [sync] to the title and you'll have 5 in no time. [03:46] Sorry. Nothing personal it's just that that program has accomplished a lot of LP data churn but not a lot of actual progress in my experience. [03:48] jjesse: Please subscribe relevant teams to bugs, not assign them unless that team has a specific policy on bug assignment. [03:51] ScottK: will try to assign [03:51] we've had this disscussion before [03:51] in regards to churn vs usefullnews [03:52] usefullness [03:56] jjesse: No. You did assign, you should subscribe. [03:57] ScottK: thought i went back and changed it to subscribe [03:57] sorry got confused [03:58] jjesse: It's assigned at the moment. [03:58] ok subscribing and changing back... sorry half asleep [03:58] Riddell, awen, and myself are already subscribed, so I'm not sure how much that will add though. [03:58] No problem. [03:58] just trying to be as usefull as i can :) [03:59] Understand and appreciated. [03:59] been fighting my laptop lately so haven't had much time for anythign fun [03:59] on my 3rd hard drive and replacing the mother board as well [04:00] already replaced my memory chips as well [04:00] Sounds "Fun". [04:00] nope makes me angry [04:00] * ScottK understands. [04:04] Not nearly as bad, but I'm currently trying to salvage what appears to be a corrupted .doc file for a paper one daughter needs to turn in tomorrow. [04:05] wow talk about preassure [04:05] good luck [04:12] no mcDonalds in Jamaica [04:14] well heading to bed, good luck ScottK [04:16] Thanks. [04:28] DaSkreech: tough luck :P [04:30] Jucato: What is? [04:31] no mcDonalds in Jamaica [04:31] Jucato: Well they came. We asked them to leave [04:31] there was one walking distance from my house [04:32] There might still be one in Montego Bay near the airport for the tourists [05:20] There are quite a few decent suggestions on the brainstorm [05:21] Why doesn't Ubuntuu use smolt? [05:49] I like the Visual representation of updates [06:20] yay for http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3462 === tmske__ is now known as tmske === hunger_t is now known as hunger [09:12] hmm, hmm - anyone had troubles printing from say Scribus? I'm getting blank sheets ... [09:14] storing as pdf and printing with kpdf instead works [10:00] larsivi: remember having some of the same problems a year or so ago with scribus ... but as it worked using pdf i just used that [10:02] awen_: It may be related to the driver, as it seems to work fine on a different printer (at least used to, it is in a different office) [10:03] I had problems with scribus on this printer prior to upgrading too, but not in the same fashion [10:04] larsivi: what type of printer? HP? [10:09] * Riddell wonders what could cause icons to go strange http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3094443 [10:21] awen_: yah, big sort - CLJ 4730mfp [10:22] larsivi: was an HP for me to ... but just a laserjet === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde === davmor2 is now known as davmor2_dinner [13:18] Riddell: if https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice/+bug/226281 is uploaded, why has it not hit the archive? [13:18] Launchpad bug 226281 in koffice "Please merge koffice 1:1.6.3-5 (main) from Debian Unstable" [Wishlist,Fix committed] [13:20] oh, my bad. [13:20] * Hobbsee marks it fix relesaed. [13:21] <\sh> oh damn...installing windows is such a pain [13:21] <\sh> and all because VMware infrastructure client doesn't work with wine [13:50] \sh: I can feel your pain :) [13:54] * \sh uses morphine now to prevent the his body from feeling the pain ;) [13:55] Morphine is the no-fun edition of Heroine? [13:56] There's always Ativan. Feel no pain and catch up on your sleep. [13:57] <\sh> sebas, should be... [13:57] <\sh> sebas, I have to remind you, if you have a talk during linuxtag, please prepare your laptop before you present..I won't fix your vmware-server this time ;) [13:57] <\sh> or provide a lot of beer afterwards ;) [13:58] haha [13:58] <\sh> TODO 99 : Set Done: Sebas Informed via IRC [13:59] \sh: And I won't use one [14:00] (vmware) [14:00] <\sh> TODO 101: Set InProgress 15%: Buy More Aspirine [14:00] I'll have KDE from trunk/ running [14:00] <\sh> sebas, aye... [14:00] Thanks for the reminder, though. [14:00] Not that the vmware crap worked last year of course :> [14:01] Not your fault though [14:01] <\sh> sebas, that was OSLES fault ;) [14:01] :) [14:01] <\sh> sebas, btw...vmware-client + kwin + composite effects == more pain then windows... [14:02] <\sh> means...running vmware-whatever os instance in fullscreen inside kde4 with enabled effects (intel graphics), switching back from fullscreen mode==black screen afterwards...needing to switch windows via alt+tab several times to come back to normal state... [14:03] <\sh> how can someone debug this behaviour? ,-) [14:04] \sh: try the update window textures setting in KWin's advanced settings [14:04] You're getting "empty" textures for the windows, right? [14:04] And they reappear after having them shown once? [14:05] kwin@kde.org is the right list, Lubos is the right person to fix this :> [14:05] <\sh> phew [14:06] <\sh> btw...just crashed completly from coming back from fullscreen ;) [14:06] That's a different bug then ;> [14:06] sebas: trunk <3 [14:06] <\sh> and I just need this installation because of the stupid vmware infra client...*gnarf* [14:07] If it's critical, switch off compositing [14:07] <\sh> sebas, that's what I'm doing now :) [14:07] pussy ;) [14:10] <\sh> sebas, meow [14:20] :) [14:20] indeed [14:20] I would love to have faster cpu and whatnot [14:20] takes ages to build KDE === davmor2_dinner is now known as davmor2 [14:41] <\sh> Tm_T, when I get my second 8 core hp server..i'll test it ;) [14:41] heh [14:41] <\sh> the first one is now in use for esx [14:42] It's funny how the mind can 'unscramble' unfamiliar letter sequences to make them a familiar word. [14:43] ScottK: xes? [14:43] Except the other way around. Yes. [14:43] \sh: well, I now live with overloaded singlecore :) [15:14] What is borked with kdelibs in intrepid? Will it get rebuild soon. [15:28] hunger: it's marked as installable. [15:28] kdebase, however, is not. [15:28] no sensible person would be running intrepid atm anyway [15:31] Hobbsee: Great argument. [15:31] hunger: there are 240 packages in intrepid, on i386, that don't install at the moment. [15:31] Hobbsee: It is marked as installable here as well, but when I ask aptitude to do that it says that it conflicts with kdelibs4. [15:32] so, until you're actually going to do something about it, there's not a lot of point in pointing it out. [15:32] * hunger shuts up. [15:32] Hobbsee: One more question: Where did you get the number of broken packages from? [15:33] hunger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/intrepid_probs.html [15:33] hunger: there's a whole bunch of useful stuff on there [15:33] but it doesn't track universe. [15:33] Bah. No one expects that stuff to actually work anyway. [15:33] ie, so kdelibs4 won't be installable with it, rather than the other way around - the main one takes priority [16:11] Riddell ping ? === xxxy is now known as santiago-ve === kewark is now known as krawek [18:24] seele: ping [19:04] seele: ignore the above ping [19:26] hum [19:50] can someone have a look at this please? i already fixed a few missing dependencies but now i am lost tbh - http://lydiapintscher.de/tmp/buildkhtml.txt [20:00] <\sh> Nightrose: damn you, it starts now openoffice for a bloddy txt [20:00] \sh: oO [20:01] <\sh> stupid kde4 [20:01] <\sh> Nightrose: it's not pbuilder build .dsc file and &> logfile? [20:02] <\sh> i don't see a cmake/build error at all [20:02] \sh: that is the problem.. [20:02] there is no error [20:02] and still it fails [20:03] <\sh> Nightrose: there is an error..and I wonder if cmake is to blame to not show the error at all...can it be run with --verbose" somehow? [20:03] i have no idea [20:03] <\sh> check cmake [20:04] k wil try later - strawberries now ;-) [20:04] *will [20:04] <\sh> damn you ;) [20:04] ;-) [20:04] <\sh> but I had asparagus yesterday ;) [20:04] damn you :P [20:05] <\sh> harhar [20:07] <\sh> Nightrose: if you want, join me and others during the weekend for some little beer and other stuff .... if this stupid weather is still being like today [20:15] \sh: will be in prague and not back before sunday night :/ [20:15] well \o/ tbh [20:15] ;-) [20:17] <\sh> Nightrose: ah .. forgot ;) [20:17] seele: ping [20:17] <\sh> [20:05] seele: ignore the above ping *eg* [20:18] seele: consider this ping :) [20:18] <\sh> lol [20:38] hm [20:38] seeing Artemis_Fowl ... I should upload kgrubeditor [20:38] * apachelogger heads over to revu [20:38] apachelogger: upload where? [20:38] to intrepid [20:38] <\sh> bah...da revu-apachelogger is back [20:38] and get it backported [20:39] apachelogger: k [20:39] \sh: nah, not yet ;-) [20:39] * apachelogger is running on eco mode :D [20:41] I don't even have an intrepid pbuilder [20:44] Artemis_Fowl: pong [20:44] seele: take a look at this: http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1321706_nsnvv/KGRUBEditor43.png [20:45] seele: that's how the "info icon on the right of the list" looks like [20:45] seele: I think that a Show Details button would be better :| [20:46] Artemis_Fowl: ok.. do a show details button then [20:46] Artemis_Fowl: i think i would prefer that anyway [20:46] seele: which would work like all the others: enabled upon selecting an entry [20:46] or maybe just Details [20:46] seele: the thing is: put it where? [20:46] can you put it in the list item? [20:46] instead if [i] you have [Details] [20:47] seele: replace the icon with a button? for every entry? [20:47] yeah, why not? [20:47] let me see if i can find an example [20:48] http://ktown.kde.org/~fredrik/listviews/effects1.png [20:48] http://ktown.kde.org/~fredrik/listviews/plasma1.png [20:48] the first are buttons, the second are icons like the info icon === Czessi__ is now known as Czessi [20:53] seele: one min [21:01] uh [21:02] that dependency mess [21:06] seele: couldn't I probably put it along with the other buttons and somehow "squeeze" the Make Default and Make Fallback to fir it? [21:06] fit* [21:28] Artemis_Fowl: no.. it will wrap in the translations [21:29] Artemis_Fowl: it will probably wrap already, we should probably check [21:29] seele: screenshot is getting uploaded... [21:30] seele: what about this one: http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1321900_9lqjk/KGRUBEditor44.png? [21:33] Artemis_Fowl: it's going to wrap when it translates [21:34] Artemis_Fowl: spanish is about 30% longer and german is about 35%-40% longer [21:34] if the word is easily translatable [21:34] seele: in the system settings it will be mostly full screen [21:34] i saw a one word button quadruple in size when it was translated in to german [21:34] Artemis_Fowl: there are minimum screen requirements [21:35] seele: I removed Make Fallback and it still won't fit :( [21:35] i dont know what the minimum width for system settings modules are, but the entire window cant be more than 800x600 [21:35] yeah [21:36] this is probably the reason i broke out the operating system details and that is where the make default and edit settings were [21:36] besides not fitting, it just doesnt make sense to have that many buttons there [21:36] seele: which buttons should be moved and where? [21:39] hum.. i'll have to think about this [21:39] because it's more than just moving buttons [21:40] the make default and fallback functions can go in the Add/Edit dialogs [21:41] the other question is.. if someone clicks Details, are they going to expect to be able to edit the information there? [21:43] seele: the Edit button makes it clear I think that it should be pressed in order to edit an entry [22:14] ./ [22:14] hrm === arnl is now known as Aranel