[00:34] <DaSkreech> !wifi
[00:44] <nixternal> w00t, got my KDE SVN, Alioth, LP, and my server SSH keys updated
[00:44] <nixternal> ready to rock-and-roll now
[00:46]  * DaSkreech plays country music
[00:46] <Jucato> :D
[00:46] <Riddell> where is ssh-vulnkeys?
[00:46] <nixternal> dun know
[00:46] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Wi-fi Pizza and Beers! Oh My!
[00:47] <nixternal> Riddell: my upgrade included a openssl-blacklist package I think and it tested
[00:47] <Jucato> DaSkreech: geek's paradise :)
[00:47] <nixternal> it then placed the bad keys under /etc/ssh/*.broken
[00:47] <nixternal> rendering them useless from the get go
[00:47] <nixternal> seems my server had the only issue and not my laptop
[00:49] <awen_> Riddell: den er i den nyeste version af openssh-client
[00:49] <Riddell> whit?
[00:50] <nixternal> aye, must be in the wrong channel..I have a hard enough time with english and you want to toss even more confusion my way :p
[00:50] <Riddell> I think he's saying there is a new version of openssh-client :)
[00:51] <awen_> which ssh-vulnkey | xargs dpkg -S
[00:51] <awen_> openssh-client: /usr/bin/ssh-vulnkey
[00:51]  * Jucato can't recall when he generated his 1 and only ssh key... doesn't know if he's affected, and doesn't know how to "update" his key :)
[00:52] <awen_> openssh-client:
[00:52] <awen_>   Installed: 1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1.1
[00:52] <awen_> Riddell: ^^
[00:52] <Nightrose> Jucato: use the ssh-vullnkey tol mentioned above
[00:52] <Riddell> Jucato: openssh-server still needs upgraded from security
[00:52] <Jucato> oh..
[00:52] <Riddell> awen_: got it thanks
[00:52] <awen_> :)
[00:52] <awen_> and goodnight people
[01:52] <ryanakca> nixternal: yeah, as was said... it's more that sysadmins seem to like procrastinating...
[01:56]  * Jucato would probably make a great sysad then :)
[01:56] <ryanakca> lol ;)
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: haha... I was shocked that they have mcDonalds in the Philipines
[01:57] <jjesse_> they have mcdonalds all over the world
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> then I remembered that I read somewhere that the only place they don't have McDonalds was in India.... cause they don't eat cows :P
[01:57] <Jucato> you're going to be shocked to learn that 1. McDonalds delivers and 2. McDonalds doesn't have refillable drinks :)
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> WHAAA!?
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> thats kinda missing the whole point
[01:57] <jjesse> nosrednaekim: in fortunue magazine i read that in india it mcdonalds is chicken
[01:57] <Jucato> :D
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> haha
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> ok... I guess they made their inroads there too
[01:58] <Jucato> :D
[01:58] <Jucato> gr... stomach churning now that I heard about McDo... thanks guys!
[01:58]  * Jucato goes for breakfast
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> haha
[03:33] <jjesse> wow its been awhile since i've done my 5-a-day
[03:41] <ScottK> jjesse: Just look at bugs subscribed to ubuntu-archive that ask for syncs and add [sync] to the title and you'll have 5 in no time.
[03:46] <ScottK> Sorry.  Nothing personal it's just that that program has accomplished a lot of LP data churn but not a lot of actual progress in my experience.
[03:48] <ScottK> jjesse: Please subscribe relevant teams to bugs, not assign them unless that team has a specific policy on bug assignment.
[03:51] <jjesse> ScottK: will try to assign
[03:51] <jjesse> we've had this disscussion before
[03:51] <jjesse> in regards to churn vs usefullnews
[03:52] <jjesse> usefullness
[03:56] <ScottK> jjesse: No.  You did assign, you should subscribe.
[03:57] <jjesse> ScottK: thought i went back and changed it to subscribe
[03:57] <jjesse> sorry got confused
[03:58] <ScottK> jjesse: It's assigned at the moment.
[03:58] <jjesse> ok subscribing and changing back... sorry half asleep
[03:58] <ScottK> Riddell, awen, and myself are already subscribed, so I'm not sure how much that will add though.
[03:58] <ScottK> No problem.
[03:58] <jjesse> just trying to be as usefull as i can :)
[03:59] <ScottK> Understand and appreciated.
[03:59] <jjesse> been fighting my laptop lately so haven't had much time for anythign fun
[03:59] <jjesse> on my 3rd hard drive and replacing the mother board as well
[04:00] <jjesse> already replaced my memory chips as well
[04:00] <ScottK> Sounds "Fun".
[04:00] <jjesse> nope makes me angry
[04:00]  * ScottK understands.
[04:04] <ScottK> Not nearly as bad, but I'm currently trying to salvage what appears to be a corrupted .doc file for a paper one daughter needs to turn in tomorrow.
[04:05] <jjesse> wow talk about preassure
[04:05] <jjesse> good luck
[04:12] <DaSkreech> no mcDonalds in Jamaica
[04:14] <jjesse> well heading to bed, good luck ScottK
[04:16] <ScottK> Thanks.
[04:28] <Jucato> DaSkreech: tough luck :P
[04:30] <DaSkreech> Jucato: What is?
[04:31] <Jucato>  <DaSkreech> no mcDonalds in Jamaica
[04:31] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Well they came. We asked them to leave
[04:31] <DaSkreech> there was one walking distance  from my house
[04:32] <DaSkreech> There might still be one in Montego Bay near the airport for the tourists
[05:20] <DaSkreech> There are quite a few decent suggestions on the brainstorm
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Why doesn't Ubuntuu use smolt?
[05:49] <DaSkreech> I like the Visual representation of updates
[06:20] <yuriy> yay for http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3462
[09:12] <larsivi> hmm, hmm - anyone had troubles printing from say Scribus? I'm getting blank sheets ...
[09:14] <larsivi> storing as pdf and printing with kpdf instead works
[10:00] <awen_> larsivi: remember having some of the same problems a year or so ago with scribus ... but as it worked using pdf i just used that
[10:02] <larsivi> awen_: It may be related to the driver, as it seems to work fine on a different printer (at least used to, it is in a different office)
[10:03] <larsivi> I had problems with scribus on this printer prior to upgrading too, but not in the same fashion
[10:04] <awen_> larsivi: what type of printer? HP?
[10:09]  * Riddell wonders what could cause icons to go strange http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3094443
[10:21] <larsivi> awen_: yah, big sort - CLJ 4730mfp
[10:22] <awen_> larsivi: was an HP for me to ... but just a laserjet
[13:18] <Hobbsee> Riddell: if https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice/+bug/226281 is uploaded, why has it not hit the archive?
[13:20] <Hobbsee> oh, my bad.
[13:20]  * Hobbsee marks it fix relesaed.
[13:21] <\sh> oh damn...installing windows is such a pain
[13:21] <\sh> and all because VMware infrastructure client doesn't work with wine
[13:50] <Tm_T> \sh: I can feel your pain :)
[13:54]  * \sh uses morphine now to prevent the his body from feeling the pain ;)
[13:55] <sebas> Morphine is the no-fun edition of Heroine?
[13:56] <ScottK> There's always Ativan.  Feel no pain and catch up on your sleep.
[13:57] <\sh> sebas, should be...
[13:57] <\sh> sebas, I have to remind you, if you have a talk during linuxtag, please prepare your laptop before you present..I won't fix your vmware-server this time ;)
[13:57] <\sh> or provide a lot of beer afterwards ;)
[13:58] <Tm_T> haha
[13:58] <\sh> TODO 99 : Set Done: Sebas Informed via IRC
[13:59] <sebas> \sh: And I won't use one
[14:00] <sebas> (vmware)
[14:00] <\sh> TODO 101: Set InProgress 15%: Buy More Aspirine
[14:00] <sebas> I'll have KDE from trunk/ running
[14:00] <\sh> sebas, aye...
[14:00] <sebas> Thanks for the reminder, though.
[14:00] <sebas> Not that the vmware crap worked last year of course :>
[14:01] <sebas> Not your fault though
[14:01] <\sh> sebas, that was OSLES fault ;)
[14:01] <sebas> :)
[14:01] <\sh> sebas, btw...vmware-client + kwin + composite effects == more pain then windows...
[14:02] <\sh> means...running vmware-whatever os instance in fullscreen inside kde4 with enabled effects (intel graphics), switching back from fullscreen mode==black screen afterwards...needing to switch windows via alt+tab several times to come back to normal state...
[14:03] <\sh> how can someone debug this behaviour? ,-)
[14:04] <sebas> \sh: try the update window textures setting in KWin's advanced settings
[14:04] <sebas> You're getting "empty" textures for the windows, right?
[14:04] <sebas> And they reappear after having them shown once?
[14:05] <sebas> kwin@kde.org is the right list, Lubos is the right person to fix this :>
[14:05] <\sh> phew
[14:06] <\sh> btw...just crashed completly from coming back from fullscreen ;)
[14:06] <sebas> That's a different bug then ;>
[14:06] <Tm_T> sebas: trunk <3
[14:06] <\sh> and I just need this installation because of the stupid vmware infra client...*gnarf*
[14:07] <sebas> If it's critical, switch off compositing
[14:07] <\sh> sebas, that's what I'm doing now :)
[14:07] <sebas> pussy ;)
[14:10] <\sh> sebas, meow
[14:20] <sebas> :)
[14:20] <Tm_T> indeed
[14:20] <Tm_T> I would love to have faster cpu and whatnot
[14:20] <Tm_T> takes ages to build KDE
[14:41] <\sh> Tm_T, when I get my second 8 core hp server..i'll test it ;)
[14:41] <Tm_T> heh
[14:41] <\sh> the first one is now in use for esx
[14:42] <ScottK> It's funny how the mind can 'unscramble' unfamiliar letter sequences to make them a familiar word.
[14:43] <Tm_T> ScottK: xes?
[14:43] <ScottK> Except the other way around.  Yes.
[14:43] <Tm_T> \sh: well, I now live with overloaded singlecore :)
[15:14] <hunger> What is borked with kdelibs in intrepid? Will it get rebuild soon.
[15:28] <Hobbsee> hunger: it's marked as installable.
[15:28] <Hobbsee> kdebase, however, is not.
[15:28] <Hobbsee> no sensible person would be running intrepid atm anyway
[15:31] <hunger> Hobbsee: Great argument.
[15:31] <Hobbsee> hunger: there are 240 packages in intrepid, on i386, that don't install at the moment.
[15:31] <hunger> Hobbsee: It is marked as installable here as well, but when I ask aptitude to do that it says that it conflicts with kdelibs4.
[15:32] <Hobbsee> so, until you're actually going to do something about it, there's not a lot of point in pointing it out.
[15:32]  * hunger shuts up.
[15:32] <hunger> Hobbsee: One more question: Where did you get the number of broken packages from?
[15:33] <Hobbsee> hunger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/intrepid_probs.html
[15:33] <Hobbsee> hunger: there's a whole bunch of useful stuff on there
[15:33] <Hobbsee> but it doesn't track universe.
[15:33] <ScottK> Bah.  No one expects that stuff to actually work anyway.
[15:33] <Hobbsee> ie, so kdelibs4 won't be installable with it, rather than the other way around - the main one takes priority
[16:11] <Tonio_> Riddell ping ?
[18:24] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: ping
[19:04] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: ignore the above ping
[19:26] <seele> hum
[19:50] <Nightrose> can someone have a look at this please? i already fixed a few missing dependencies but now i am lost tbh - http://lydiapintscher.de/tmp/buildkhtml.txt
[20:00] <\sh> Nightrose: damn you, it starts now openoffice for a bloddy txt
[20:00] <Nightrose> \sh: oO
[20:01] <\sh> stupid kde4
[20:01] <\sh> Nightrose: it's not pbuilder build <foo>.dsc file and &> logfile?
[20:02] <\sh> i don't see a cmake/build error at all
[20:02] <Nightrose> \sh: that is the problem..
[20:02] <Nightrose> there is no error
[20:02] <Nightrose> and still it fails
[20:03] <\sh> Nightrose: there is an error..and I wonder if cmake is to blame to not show the error at all...can it be run with --verbose" somehow?
[20:03] <Nightrose> i have no idea
[20:03] <\sh> check cmake
[20:04] <Nightrose> k wil try later - strawberries now ;-)
[20:04] <Nightrose> *will
[20:04] <\sh> damn you ;)
[20:04] <Nightrose> ;-)
[20:04] <\sh> but I had asparagus yesterday ;)
[20:04] <Nightrose> damn you :P
[20:05] <\sh> harhar
[20:07] <\sh> Nightrose: if you want, join me and others during the weekend for some little beer and other stuff .... if this stupid weather is still being like today
[20:15] <Nightrose> \sh: will be in prague and not back before sunday night :/
[20:15] <Nightrose> well \o/ tbh
[20:15] <Nightrose> ;-)
[20:17] <\sh> Nightrose: ah .. forgot ;)
[20:17] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: ping
[20:17] <\sh> [20:05] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: ignore the above ping *eg*
[20:18] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: consider this ping :)
[20:18] <\sh> lol
[20:38] <apachelogger> hm
[20:38] <apachelogger> seeing Artemis_Fowl ... I should upload kgrubeditor
[20:38]  * apachelogger heads over to revu
[20:38] <Artemis_Fowl> apachelogger: upload where?
[20:38] <apachelogger> to intrepid
[20:38] <\sh> bah...da revu-apachelogger is back
[20:38] <apachelogger> and get it backported
[20:39] <Artemis_Fowl> apachelogger: k
[20:39] <apachelogger> \sh: nah, not yet ;-)
[20:39]  * apachelogger is running on eco mode :D
[20:41] <apachelogger> I don't even have an intrepid pbuilder
[20:44] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: pong
[20:44] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: take a look at this: http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1321706_nsnvv/KGRUBEditor43.png
[20:45] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: that's how the "info icon on the right of the list" looks like
[20:45] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: I think that a Show Details button would be better :|
[20:46] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: ok.. do a show details button then
[20:46] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: i think i would prefer that anyway
[20:46] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: which would work like all the others: enabled upon selecting an entry
[20:46] <seele> or maybe just Details
[20:46] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: the thing is: put it where?
[20:46] <seele> can you put it in the list item?
[20:46] <seele> instead if [i] you have [Details]
[20:47] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: replace the icon with a button? for every entry?
[20:47] <seele> yeah, why not?
[20:47] <seele> let me see if i can find an example
[20:48] <seele> http://ktown.kde.org/~fredrik/listviews/effects1.png
[20:48] <seele> http://ktown.kde.org/~fredrik/listviews/plasma1.png
[20:48] <seele> the first are buttons, the second are icons like the info icon
[20:53] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: one min
[21:01] <apachelogger> uh
[21:02] <apachelogger> that dependency mess
[21:06] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: couldn't I probably put it along with the other buttons and somehow "squeeze" the Make Default and Make Fallback to fir it?
[21:06] <Artemis_Fowl> fit*
[21:28] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: no.. it will wrap in the translations
[21:29] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: it will probably wrap already, we should probably check
[21:29] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: screenshot is getting uploaded...
[21:30] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: what about this one: http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1321900_9lqjk/KGRUBEditor44.png?
[21:33] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: it's going to wrap when it translates
[21:34] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: spanish is about 30% longer and german is about 35%-40% longer
[21:34] <seele> if the word is easily translatable
[21:34] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: in the system settings it will be mostly full screen
[21:34] <seele> i saw a one word button quadruple in size when it was translated in to german
[21:34] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: there are minimum screen requirements
[21:35] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: I removed Make Fallback and it still won't fit :(
[21:35] <seele> i dont know what the minimum width for system settings modules are, but the entire window cant be more than 800x600
[21:35] <seele> yeah
[21:36] <seele> this is probably the reason i broke out the operating system details and that is where the make default and edit settings were
[21:36] <seele> besides not fitting, it just doesnt make sense to have that many buttons there
[21:36] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: which buttons should be moved and where?
[21:39] <seele> hum.. i'll have to think about this
[21:39] <seele> because it's more than just moving buttons
[21:40] <seele> the make default and fallback functions can go in the Add/Edit dialogs
[21:41] <seele> the other question is.. if someone clicks Details, are they going to expect to be able to edit the information there?
[21:43] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: the Edit button makes it clear I think that it should be pressed in order to edit an entry
[22:14] <jjesse_> ./
[22:14] <jjesse_> hrm