/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/05/14/#launchpad.txt

swegnerHey guys,  I just started a new project & team on launchpad and am working on setting everything up.  Does Launchpad offer any sort of Wiki or webspace for projects?  Where are blueprints generally uploaded?01:22
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andresjhello. to upload to a team ppa, does incoming = ~teamname-team/ubuntu/ or ~teamname/ubuntu/ ? (in ~/.dput.cf)03:30
Hobbseethe latter03:57
jameshandresj: team names and person nicknames share the same namespace, so you don't need any special suffix for team PPAs04:01
andresjoh :) then I think the PPAQuickStartGuide needs to be clarified04:05
andresjthanks ;)04:06
* bimberi edits the page04:32
* Hobbsee hasn't seen anyone else make that error bfeore04:37
HobbseeOTOH, the page could well do with some editing :)04:37
bimberiHobbsee: /win 1405:08
bimberisorry05:08
bimberiHobbsee: That page once had me trying to upload packages to Ubuntu itself05:09
bimberiI think 'my-ppa' was left out of 'dput my-ppa ...'05:10
* bimberi now checks /win 1405:10
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jmillikinWhat is the syntax for mirroring a CVS url? Do I copy everything from <cvs -d ... co modulename>, or do I have to find something accessible over HTTP?05:51
jameshjmillikin: you can enter the CVS repo and module details on the "Edit source" form for a project's release series05:53
jameshthen go to https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar and add a question asking for the import to be processed05:54
jmillikinThis isn't my project, I can't edit its release series (as far as I know).05:55
jmillikinIt's for https://launchpad.net/gst-plugins/ , the "main" branch seems to be pointing to something old. I want to be able to mirror http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gst-plugins-good/ so I can use Bazaar on it.05:57
spivmwhudson: ^05:58
spivmwhudson: want to take a look at the gst-plugins import?05:59
mwhudsonhmm, i think i did at some point05:59
mwhudsonjmillikin: do you know what the actual $CVSROOT and module are for that viewvc view?06:01
jmillikinNo idea, I've never used CVS before. The details for checkout are at http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/dev/ .06:01
mwhudsonoh, it looks like the gst-plugins module got split up, perhaps?06:02
jmillikinYes, a couple years ago.06:02
mwhudsoni guess there are two options then:06:03
mwhudson1) register a series in the gst-plugins project for each of gst-plugins-good, gst-plugins-bad, etc06:04
mwhudsonor 2) register new projects for each of the modules06:04
mwhudsoni don't really know enough about gstreamer to say which is more appropriate06:04
jmillikinProbably a better option to split into multiple projects, since their release schedules & source code are independent.06:04
mwhudsonjmillikin: do you?06:04
mwhudsonok06:04
mwhudsonjmillikin: do you want to do that?06:05
jmillikinIf you tell me how, and if I can, sure.06:05
mwhudsonjmillikin: https://edge.launchpad.net/projects/+new06:06
mwhudsonjmillikin: you probably should make the projects "part of" the gstreamer-project project group06:06
jmillikinI don't know how they handle licensing, they have COPYING (GPLv2) and COPYING.LIB (LGPLv2) files. Do I leave the license checkboxes blank, or select both?06:10
mwhudson_jmillikin: hm, interesting question :)06:14
mwhudson_jmillikin: gst-plugins-good is LGPL at least, isn't it?06:14
mwhudson_though i guess you can check both06:14
jmillikinYes, but -base has the mentioned multiple files, and -ugly has who knows what06:15
mwhudson_i guess "all that apply" then06:15
jameshiirc the code in -ugly is all LGPL/GPL06:16
jameshbut depends on code that is LGPL incompatible in many countries06:17
jmillikinOK, project for -base registered at https://launchpad.net/gst-plugins-base . Will wait until the morning, check if the import worked, and then create the others if everything looks like it's working.06:17
jmillikinThank you for your help, mwhudson.06:17
jameshhence ugly06:17
mwhudson_jmillikin: make sure you let us know which import details you've filled out06:19
jmillikinYes, I'm going to add that "question" to launchpad-bazaar now.06:19
mwhudson_jmillikin: and did you really mean to attach the import to the '0.10' series?06:20
jmillikinI think so. You said the CVS repository was attached to a particular series, right?06:20
mwhudson_yes, but gst-plugins-base MAIN to _me_ like "The "trunk" series represents the primary line of development rather than a stable release branch. This is sometimes also called MAIN or HEAD."06:21
jmillikinOh, `trunk` is its own series. My bad.06:21
mwhudson_no worries06:21
mwhudson_it's fairly confusing06:21
* mwhudson_ understates06:21
jmillikinOK, CVS details added for trunk this time. Creating question.06:22
mwhudson_i've pressed the 'go' button on that import06:24
jmillikinDo I skip the launchpad-bazaar "question" then, or should it be entered anyway for bookkeeping?06:25
mwhudson_it's probably best to enter it anyway06:25
mwhudson_it's somewhere we can talk about things if there are problems, for one thing06:25
jmillikinQuestion created at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+question/3304306:26
mwhudson_cool06:28
mwhudson_it will be at least a few hours i guess06:29
jmillikinThen good night, and thank you again.06:29
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Hobbseebimberi: might have been a bad edit.  i checked it a few months ago, when it first came out, and made sure it was right, along with other canonical people07:54
bimberiHobbsee: And it was probably me anyway.  "Never assume a conspiracy when stupidity is plausible" :-)08:13
Hobbsee:P08:13
philnhi08:47
philnanyone knows how to reach James Henstridge?08:49
philnjamesh: ?08:50
jameshphiln: hi08:50
philnhey ;) did you got my mails about elisa bugs migration?08:51
jameshphiln: yeah, but I haven't really had a chance to respond yet08:53
jameshwill do so08:53
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philnthanks08:53
owhsoren, may I PM you for a moment?08:59
jameshphiln: I've just replied to your email09:42
philnthx ;)09:44
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mptGoooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!10:30
johGooood mornin'!10:34
johCrap, I need to regenerate my ssh keys. Stupid SSL vulnerability.10:34
gnomefreakgood morning i think10:35
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philnjamesh: i have a new dump, 6Mb compressed. is that fine by mail?12:09
philni guess not.. i can put it online if you want12:09
philnjamesh: mail sent12:13
philnjamesh: argh that dump isn't valid.. will upload a new one soon, sorry12:16
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philnjamesh: i have many bugreporters that haven't configured their mail. Is there a dummy email available in LP?12:27
loftushi! is there are delay when uploading source packages to a ppa?12:34
cprovloftus: yes, uploads are processed every 5 minutes.12:34
cprovloftus: you will receive an email telling you your package was accepted or reject.12:35
loftuscprov, i'll wait for that then. thanks12:35
mok0Is there some way to create dummy bugs? Re: the discussion on ubuntu-motu, I'd like to play with python-launchpad-bugs, but don't wish to create a deluge of bogus bug reports12:42
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andrea-bsmok0: you can use staging.launchpad.net12:43
mok0andrea-bs: ah, cool12:43
mok0andrea-bs: so just to be sure, bugs submitted to staging will not enter the real bug database?12:45
andrea-bsmok0: right, staging is like a demo of launchpad12:46
mok0andrea-bs: thx12:46
loftuscprov, my package has been rejected - "Signer has no upload rights at all to this distribution." ? 13:07
Hobbseeloftus: you tried to upload to the main ubuntu archive.13:08
cprovloftus: fix your dput config, see PPAQuickStart suggestions.13:09
loftusadam@adam-desktop:~$ cat .dput.cf | grep fqdn13:09
loftusfqdn = ppa.launchpad.net13:09
wgrantloftus: That's irrelevant - the default is Ubuntu, in /etc/dput.cf13:10
cprovloftus: be sure you have "incoming = ~$your_lp_login/ubuntu/" defined for the dput target you're using.13:11
loftusah! I forgot to use "dput my-ppa" when uploading13:11
loftuschanges accepted - woho!13:15
cprovloftus: nice13:20
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Hobbseeallenap: *drool*13:26
Hobbseeallenap: you seriously rock!13:26
gmbHobbsee: I've never seen anyone droop at allenap before...13:27
gmbdroop?13:27
gmbThat's not what I meant.13:28
Hobbseegmb: :P13:28
gmbInnuendo-laden typos FTW.13:28
Hobbseegmb: he's corrected the add an upstream project section, in such a way that it doesn't want me to claw my own eyeballs out, and get confused, hitting every single option until i find something that looks vaguely relevant.13:29
Hobbseegmb: which is pretty good, as that's taken at least 2 years to do :)13:29
gmbHobbsee: Ah yes. AIUI he's shed a lot of blood, sweat and tears to make that work right :)13:29
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Hobbsee:D13:30
* spiv wonders how much blood, sweat and tears can be replaced by drool13:32
gmbspiv: Well, we could get everyone at UDS to lick allenap whilst he works on forwarding bugs to an upstream email address, which is another B,S&T task, IIRC. If we weigh him at the start of the week and then again at the end we'll see if everything balances.13:33
* stub wonders how spiv's unhealthy interest in bodily fluids got started13:33
* gmb wonders if a sign saying "lick me" could be attached to allenap at UDS without him noticing13:37
* wgrant sticks one to gmb instead.13:40
* gmb waits for the licking to begin13:40
* wgrant swats gmb 13:40
gmbUnkind, sir!13:41
wgrant'tis me.13:41
auaoboys see my foto here --> http://rapidshare.com/files/113860291/sexy18.jpg.rar.html . if i like you come prive for cyber :D13:59
lagawtf14:07
Hobbseelaga: reported, we'll see if freenode actually cares.14:07
wgrantHobbsee: Bit presumptuous.14:08
lagasexy18.jpg.rar.html. awesome. :)14:08
Hobbseewgrant: which part? 14:08
wgrantwgrant: The Freenode caring bit.14:08
wgrantAAARG14:08
wgrantI keep doing that.14:08
wgrantBecause I don't recognise it as my own nick yet :(14:08
wgrantHobbsee: ^^14:08
Hobbseewgrant: well, do they?  they did stop caring about spam, and ignored it for a long while14:09
Hobbseei'm unsure if they're still doing it, but this is the wrong room :)14:09
Hobbseedear launcphad, why have you broken my scripts?14:10
wgrantProgress!14:11
wgrantProbably legitimately good progress, however.14:11
Hobbseeso much progress that i'm going to take it out to the back of the parking lot....14:11
gmbHobbsee: what broke?14:11
Hobbseecprov: why did the links to retrying builds move, and where have they moved to?14:11
gmbAh, it's a cprov question14:11
* gmb distances himself from Soyuz and points urgently at cprov and bigjools14:12
wgrantHobbsee: Sure your cookie isn't gone>?14:12
cprovHobbsee: the permission-system is being migrated and half-broken in edge, use launchpad.net14:12
Hobbseewgrant: well, i'm signed in...14:13
Hobbseecprov: i'm using buildd.py and it's still redirecting me, even though the script says it's using lp.net14:14
cprovHobbsee: I have no idea what 'buildd.py' does, can you paste it somewhere ?14:16
Hobbseecprov: http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/scripts/buildd.py14:16
cprovHobbsee: anyway, can you see the link using ff on launchpad.net ?14:16
cprovahhh14:17
cprovwhy people insisting in writing code for 24" screens ?!14:18
Hobbseecprov: sure, but i'm not about to do 20 retries, individually on all arches.14:18
cprovHobbsee: did you cancel the redirect ?14:19
Hobbseeyes.14:19
cprovHobbsee: can you check at least one, please, if it's asking you too much ?14:21
* Hobbsee did check, and could see the link on lp.net14:22
bigjoolsHobbsee: the build retry links have disappeared in edge only because some code landed that will make MOTU's life unbearably happy regarding rights to retry builds, upload packages and administer the queue14:24
bigjoolsthe data is being migrated later and the links will reappear14:24
Hobbseehmm, seems that's worked around it.14:31
Hobbseebigjools: sounds cool, although i wonder why, if they sometimes don't pick up licencing issues when reviewing, how they suddenly will pick up all licencing issues before they accept packages.14:32
bigjoolsHobbsee: I guess that's an issue that MOTU has to work out14:33
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Hobbseeyes.  i guess it is....14:34
wgrantbigjools: Can you clarify who will have what permissions?14:35
bigjoolswgrant: whomever MOTU wants to have it AFAIK14:35
bigjoolsit will be a right across universe and multiverse only14:36
wgrantOK, so there'll just be a team assigned to archive administration?14:36
Hobbseewgrant: that was th eidea, last i knew14:37
bigjoolswgrant: it can be a team and/or individuals, on a per-component basis and even on a package basis.  There's two rights that can be assigned, upload rights and queue admin rights14:37
wgrantbigjools: Oh, very nice.14:37
bigjoolsbuild retry rights will follow upload rights14:37
bigjoolssince uploaders can DoS the builders anyway ...14:38
wgrantYep.14:38
Hobbseebigjools: define 'queue admin'?14:39
bigjoolssomeone who can accept, reject and override uploads14:40
bigjoolslike you14:40
Hobbseeoh, right.14:40
Hobbseeyes, although i am a bad example, as i'm part of both the buildd admin team, and the archive team, so can do it all over the UI anyway :)14:40
* bigjools forsees that changing :)14:41
Hobbseewhy?14:41
Hobbseei'm a core dev too...14:41
bigjoolsah right I didn't know that14:42
* bigjools forsaw wrongly14:42
Hobbseeand a member of the release team, which is why i got the archive ones.14:42
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LaserJockis there anything that can be done for a bug that just times out?17:54
LaserJockkiko: ping17:55
kikoLaserJock, what bug is that?17:55
kikosomething can be done surely17:55
kikoeven if it involves cut paste n pqm17:55
LaserJock23035017:55
kikolessee17:56
LaserJockit's just got too many tasks perhaps17:56
kikolet's see where it times out17:56
kikooh, didn't time out 17:56
kikoWTF17:56
kikoWTF17:56
kikoyou guys are crazy :)17:56
LaserJockI've been trying for quite some time and it just times out here17:57
LaserJockkiko: well, and a bunch of them are invalid17:57
LaserJockkiko: so everybody's gonna get spammed17:57
kikono, none of those tasks are invalid!17:57
LaserJockthey will be as soon as I can get to the page17:58
kikowhen you have an OOPS show it to me17:58
kikoI'll be interested in seeing how it times out17:58
kikobut to be honest17:58
kikoyou should expect that to time out17:58
LaserJockOOPS-865EB6217:58
kikoand it will be pretty hard to fix, I'll let you know17:58
geserOOPS-865EB6117:59
kikowe should cap the number of bugtasks I guess17:59
kikoproduce a feature, and then the waterfall.. :)17:59
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geserLaserJock: you could try to invalidate some tasks per email till the web interface works again18:00
LaserJockgeser: well, I've honestly never used the email interface, I'd have to figure out how to do it18:01
geserLaserJock: now is a good occasion :)18:02
geserhmm, setting the status to invalid won't help as LP still tries to list them all and times out again18:03
LaserJockyeah18:04
geserlet the -bugsquad handle this bug :)18:04
LaserJockheh18:04
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mok0python-biopython was ubuntified by adding depends: python-numeric-ext. Now the Debian version recommends: python-numeric-ext. Would you think this is reason to drop the delta? 21:09
mok0The fact is, that some parts of python-biopython don't work without the extensions21:09
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clemyeatsHi, is there any launchpad admin here? I would like to delete two releases.. I just created them by mistake and cannot delete them.21:56
clemyeatsThey're not linked to anything.21:56
mwhudson_clemyeats: ask a Question, i guess21:57
clemyeatsmwhudson_: ok21:57
CarlFK <input class="fileType" id="field.filecontent" name="field.filecontent" size="20" type="file">   why can't I type into that?  22:55
CarlFKI can get the cursor in it by right clicking, but typing letters dosn't show them22:55
CarlFKhitting the browse button brings up a dialog that does not have a place to type22:56
CarlFKand no typing == no pasting, which is what I really want to do22:56
kikoCarlFK, what browser is that?23:01
CarlFKFF3b523:02
CarlFKwhy is there a total of 3 \n in the css? :)23:04
intellectronicaCarlFK: URL?23:08
CarlFKhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-md/+bug/2230123:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 22301 in partman-md "Install -- Raid setup cannot see all of my RAID partitions" [Medium,Triaged] 23:08
CarlFKoh boy - may be a FF thing23:10
intellectronicaCarlFK: i don't understand - that's a file upload control. you're not supposed to type into it. you click 'Browse...' and get the file you want23:11
intellectronicaCarlFK: yeah, maybe you're having FF problems23:12
CarlFK"file select  This control type allows the user to select files so that their contents may be submitted with a form. The INPUT element is used to create a file select control."  http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/interact/forms.html#file-select23:43
CarlFKdosn't really say how it should work23:43

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