| o0Chris0o | I have no idea o.0 | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| troy_s | God. | 00:05 |
| troy_s | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Fela_Kuti | 00:05 |
| o0Chris0o | hey I am new | 00:06 |
| o0Chris0o | I didn't know | 00:06 |
| troy_s | o0Chris0o: No not you... but it should be easy to find out the info. | 00:06 |
| troy_s | o0Chris0o: Alternately, I believe the 'AUTHORS' file of every source package will list the relevant folks. | 00:06 |
| o0Chris0o | I see | 00:07 |
| o0Chris0o | bah ;) I don't know where to start | 05:23 |
| o0Chris0o | I am new, I just want to make some decent wall papers and logos, some splash images..etc | 05:47 |
| troy_s | o0Chris0o: Then go for it. | 06:11 |
| troy_s | o0Chris0o: Don't worry about anything else. | 06:11 |
| troy_s | o0Chris0o: Just do. | 06:11 |
| o0Chris0o | sounsd good :) | 06:14 |
| troy_s | o0Chris0o: There are many people who would love to see what you are capable of. | 06:17 |
| troy_s | o0Chris0o: I wouldn't let trying to follow the tendrils of Ubuntu art and design main foible you. | 06:17 |
| troy_s | o0Chris0o: Ubuntu isn't there yet. Maybe try Fedora. That said, it isn't like the Fedora camp has done anything art / design wise that should garner any attention since F7 | 06:18 |
| troy_s | o0Chris0o: 8 and the ever worse 9 are yikes. | 06:18 |
| o0Chris0o | I never used fedora | 06:19 |
| DanaG | 8 was fine-ish, 9 was ugly. | 06:26 |
| DanaG | SuSE 9.2 was nice, 9.3 was about the same, but everything thereafter was worse. | 06:27 |
| o0Chris0o | how do I install the ubuntu font? | 06:27 |
| troy_s | DanaG: 8 was far far far away from fine. Diana _was_ the stunning Fedora work. When she left, there was nothing. | 06:28 |
| troy_s | DanaG: Just look at how completely mediocre 8 was -- tonally, conceptually, execution, _everything_. | 06:29 |
| DanaG | I guess that's what I meant by fine-ish. Mediocre is a better word. | 06:29 |
| troy_s | DanaG: Unfortunately, when you set a bar with 7, it doesn't even reach mediocre. | 06:29 |
| DanaG | Oh, did you mean "artist" instead of "work"? "Diana" is the name of a person.... | 06:29 |
| troy_s | DanaG: Diana Fong. | 06:29 |
| troy_s | DanaG: MFA | 06:29 |
| DanaG | MFA? Oh, perhaps you're being tricky with the use of "WAS". | 06:30 |
| troy_s | DanaG: Lol. No. Masters of Fine Arts. | 06:31 |
| DanaG | AAh. | 06:32 |
| DanaG | Sorry, I was just hung up on the wording: [A person] was the [work]. | 06:33 |
| troy_s | DanaG: Well I intended it to be that "Diana was everything to do with Fedora's success." | 06:34 |
| DanaG | Aah. | 06:35 |
| o0Chris0o | where can I download the ubuntu font? | 06:47 |
| o0Chris0o | so I am able to use it in artwork | 06:51 |
| savvas | isn't it included already? | 06:52 |
| BHSPitLappy | It's called Continuum | 06:53 |
| BHSPitLappy | and it's downloadable from the same part of the site where you can get other official artwork | 06:53 |
| BHSPitLappy | Google harder | 06:53 |
| o0Chris0o | lol | 06:54 |
| o0Chris0o | excuse me for asking first | 06:54 |
| o0Chris0o | sorry, didn't think it was a problem | 06:54 |
| savvas | o0Chris0o: sudo apt-get install ttf-ubuntu-title | 06:55 |
| savvas | :) | 06:55 |
| o0Chris0o | thanks savvas | 06:56 |
| savvas | or here heh: http://www.dafont.com/ubuntu-title.font | 06:56 |
| troy_s | o0Chris0o: It's in the repos. | 07:04 |
| troy_s | o0Chris0o: savvas gave you the proper repository version iirc. | 07:04 |
| o0Chris0o | ok | 07:05 |
| o0Chris0o | so its not the right one | 07:05 |
| savvas | hm? | 07:06 |
| troy_s | o0Chris0o: No, what savvas said was the exact command to get it to your desktop. There _is_ a modified version out there that is more professional looking, but it hasn't been adopted yet. | 07:07 |
| troy_s | o0Chris0o: (and by more professional I mean that in the most typical of fashions -- more sculpted bowls with tapered axis lines etc.) | 07:08 |
| o0Chris0o | I see | 07:09 |
| savvas | !! | 07:09 |
| savvas | where? :) | 07:09 |
| savvas | you have the link troy_s ? | 07:09 |
| troy_s | savvas: Let me find it for you. | 07:09 |
| o0Chris0o | I wish it was that easy when I asked first | 07:10 |
| o0Chris0o | all I get is "google harder" | 07:10 |
| o0Chris0o | lol | 07:10 |
| o0Chris0o | j/k | 07:10 |
| troy_s | savvas: http://betatype.com/node/36 | 07:10 |
| troy_s | lol | 07:10 |
| troy_s | DON'T GOOGLE THAT term... ;) | 07:11 |
| savvas | mm sweet! thanks | 07:12 |
| troy_s | savvas: Don't expect matches though. | 07:13 |
| troy_s | savvas: He introduced a slightly modified humanist axis IIRC. | 07:13 |
| troy_s | savvas: Although it is subtle. | 07:13 |
| DanaG | Sure would be easier to tell with a side-by-side comparison pic. | 07:14 |
| DanaG | Or over-under comparison. | 07:14 |
| troy_s | DanaG: Not exactly unless you are sort of knowing what you are looking for. | 07:14 |
| troy_s | DanaG: The biggest shift to get it more professional is the introduction of an axis. | 07:14 |
| DanaG | Right now it's Apples and...... oh wait, the other one isn't even here. Great. | 07:15 |
| troy_s | DanaG: From what I have seen of it, it is homogenous (as opposed to say, a post modern font with non homogenous axis). | 07:15 |
| troy_s | DanaG: Did you type that line of savvas ? | 07:15 |
| troy_s | DanaG: sudo aptitude install ttf-ubuntu-title | 07:15 |
| DanaG | By "not even here" -- I mean in the page. | 07:15 |
| troy_s | DanaG: ??? | 07:16 |
| DanaG | Otherwise, I have to install both fonts, and type up my own thing with both fonts. | 07:16 |
| troy_s | DanaG: You can have both co-existing as they are under different names. | 07:16 |
| troy_s | DanaG: If you are interested. | 07:16 |
| DanaG | ah. My whole point was that the web page itself would be better if it showed a comparison for us. | 07:18 |
| DanaG | The actual differences don't concern me much -- I don't use the font myself, for anything. | 07:18 |
| troy_s | DanaG: Oh... you need to be familiar with the font to appreciate what he did to it. And even then, by and large, most casual onlookers would probably not see much of a difference between the Fedora font and Ubuntu's anyways. | 07:18 |
| troy_s | (rightfully so.) | 07:18 |
| DanaG | Aah. | 07:20 |
| DanaG | That reminds me... font rendering is one of my big reasons for using Linux as my primary OS. | 07:20 |
| DanaG | DejaVu fonts and subpixel rendering -- sure beats Cleartype. The latter actually makes my eyes hurt. | 07:21 |
| troy_s | DanaG: Font rendering is largely bound up with patent restrictions which is, by and large, why Linux's isn't quite as good as say, MacOSXs | 07:21 |
| DanaG | Between OS X and Linux... they look quite different, but the actual subjective "quality" as a scalar-- I can't decide which I like better, actually. | 07:21 |
| troy_s | DanaG: The main issue is the hinting logic as the rendering engines have proprietary and patent restricted uses of the byte code hinting. | 07:21 |
| troy_s | DanaG: There has been some great work done on the free rendering front for certain. | 07:22 |
| savvas | did anyone hear who won the launchpad logo or which decision was made regarding the logo contest? | 07:23 |
| savvas | all they say at the website is "The contest is now closed and a decision has been reached!" :\ | 07:24 |
| o0Chris0o | is ubuntu-studio a flavor of ubuntu? | 07:24 |
| o0Chris0o | nvm | 07:25 |
| o0Chris0o | do any of you guys use it ;) | 07:26 |
| savvas | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/hardy/release/ :p | 07:26 |
| o0Chris0o | cool, do any of ya's use it :) | 07:27 |
| o0Chris0o | looks pretty cool | 07:27 |
| troy_s | o0Chris0o: One of the devs (the head one) lives in here. | 07:28 |
| o0Chris0o | heh | 07:28 |
| troy_s | o0Chris0o: _ MMA_ (I added the space to avoid pinging him) | 07:28 |
| o0Chris0o | cool | 07:29 |
| troy_s | savvas: And no, no decision. If history serves as any indicator, don't hold your breath. ;) | 07:29 |
| savvas | ah ok | 07:34 |
| troy_s | savvas: There is also a very likely probability (well likely is probably strong) that they dislike all of the submissions. | 07:36 |
| troy_s | savvas: Which is a bit of a weak point in the whole 'contest' system of design. | 07:37 |
| savvas | they should let the people decide, not the devs | 07:39 |
| savvas | :\ | 07:39 |
| troy_s | savvas: Make no mistake, voting isn't a good path for innovative design either. Arguably not even not-so-innovative. | 07:39 |
| savvas | true, very true | 07:40 |
| troy_s | savvas: There just isn't some sort of silver bullet to alleviate anything as complicated as art and design woes. | 07:41 |
| o0Chris0o | I got a question, if you find a peice of artwork online...a good backdrop for what you want..would I be able to use it? | 08:15 |
| kwwii | o0Chris0o: it depends on where it comes from and the license it is under | 08:45 |
| o0Chris0o | thats the thing | 08:50 |
| o0Chris0o | how do you tell? | 08:50 |
| o0Chris0o | lol | 08:50 |
| o0Chris0o | photobucket | 08:50 |
| kwwii | you talk to the author | 08:53 |
| kwwii | or look for any information which is posted with the pictures | 08:53 |
| o0Chris0o | I see | 08:54 |
| o0Chris0o | hmm | 08:54 |
| o0Chris0o | I dunno, I am so used to doing stuff for myself instead of "commerically" lol I never asked permission to use work I found of the net | 09:05 |
| o0Chris0o | you know of any image upload sites that will temporary save the address? so I can show others the work | 09:13 |
| o0Chris0o | ahh nvm, I rememered one tinypic ;) | 09:14 |
| o0Chris0o | its beena while since I messed arund with graphics | 09:15 |
| o0Chris0o | but here we go http://i32.tinypic.com/w8t6wz.jpg | 09:15 |
| o0Chris0o | if I were to use this as a wallpaper and send it in, I would most likely have to talk to the author or find the author :) | 09:27 |
| o0Chris0o | am kinda rusty still | 09:27 |
| o0Chris0o | kwwii ^ | 09:29 |
| kwwii | o0Chris0o: hey, pretty nifty | 09:32 |
| o0Chris0o | ehh I can do better, but just trying to get the feel of girmp, a lil different then photoshop | 09:32 |
| o0Chris0o | gimp* | 09:32 |
| kwwii | yeah, gimp is really different than photoshop | 09:33 |
| kwwii | from time to time I still use photoshop because of that :-) | 09:33 |
| o0Chris0o | if I had a mac | 09:33 |
| kwwii | but don't tell anyone | 09:33 |
| o0Chris0o | Id love to get photoshop | 09:33 |
| kwwii | :p | 09:33 |
| o0Chris0o | oooo! | 09:33 |
| o0Chris0o | its handy | 09:33 |
| o0Chris0o | whast the newest out now photoshop 3? | 09:33 |
| o0Chris0o | CS3 | 09:34 |
| kwwii | yes, I think so | 09:34 |
| o0Chris0o | what if you can't find an author of a picture? | 09:35 |
| o0Chris0o | or backdrop | 09:35 |
| kwwii | then it is probably best not to use it | 09:35 |
| DanaG | Ugh, that background reminds me of a low-quality CRT. | 09:35 |
| DanaG | .... such as a standard TV. | 09:35 |
| o0Chris0o | yeah thats one of the plugins I used in gimp | 09:36 |
| kwwii | well, for the wallpaper it is probably best to not use lines like that as it will sometimes be scaled down and that will cause a moire effect | 09:36 |
| o0Chris0o | I see | 09:38 |
| DanaG | And try putting it on a cube and rotating that cube. | 09:38 |
| o0Chris0o | compiz? | 09:38 |
| DanaG | Yeah. | 09:39 |
| o0Chris0o | does it look like crap or something? | 09:39 |
| DanaG | Yeah. | 09:44 |
| DanaG | Closely spaced parallel lines do, that is. | 09:44 |
| o0Chris0o | I see, trying to get ccsm running but the window froze | 09:46 |
| o0Chris0o | weird | 09:46 |
| o0Chris0o | can't close it out | 09:46 |
| o0Chris0o | ahh I like the terminal comes in handy to kill things | 09:47 |
| o0Chris0o | brb | 09:48 |
| savvas | would this be a nice start for an ibex wallpaper? :) http://savvas.radevic.com/previews/ubuntu-ibex/ubuntu-ibex-0.1.png | 10:36 |
| kwwii | looks more like a poster to me | 10:39 |
| kwwii | I like the idea of using some kind of stylized ibex though | 10:39 |
| DanaG | I hope we get something as cool as the current Heron. | 10:40 |
| DanaG | I'm actually using the transparent SVG version (linked right above the "gdm theme" screenshot on the wiki). | 10:41 |
| o0Chris0o | ibex is a type of ram huh | 10:45 |
| o0Chris0o | I am out guys bbl | 10:48 |
| o0Chris0o | have fun, have an art-tastic day! | 10:48 |
| o0Chris0o | lol | 10:48 |
| kwwii | hehe, see you | 10:54 |
| savvas | kwwii: it's still in development, I got about 5 months to finish it :P | 12:28 |
| kwwii | savvas: hehe :-) | 12:46 |
| DanaG | Oh hey, random thing about day transitions: this ending theme here does it: | 13:11 |
| DanaG | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB70vGTigh0 | 13:11 |
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| thorwil | mean. there has been an edit on https://help.launchpad.net/logo/submissions this morning. now you can read a decision has been made | 20:48 |
| thorwil | but still no word on which one it will be | 20:48 |
| o0Chris0o | cool alot of nice logos | 20:54 |
| o0Chris0o | I bet it was tuff | 20:54 |
| thorwil | sure | 20:55 |
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