[00:01] I have no idea o.0 [00:05] God. [00:05] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Fela_Kuti [00:06] hey I am new [00:06] I didn't know [00:06] o0Chris0o: No not you... but it should be easy to find out the info. [00:06] o0Chris0o: Alternately, I believe the 'AUTHORS' file of every source package will list the relevant folks. [00:07] I see [05:23] bah ;) I don't know where to start [05:47] I am new, I just want to make some decent wall papers and logos, some splash images..etc [06:11] o0Chris0o: Then go for it. [06:11] o0Chris0o: Don't worry about anything else. [06:11] o0Chris0o: Just do. [06:14] sounsd good :) [06:17] o0Chris0o: There are many people who would love to see what you are capable of. [06:17] o0Chris0o: I wouldn't let trying to follow the tendrils of Ubuntu art and design main foible you. [06:18] o0Chris0o: Ubuntu isn't there yet. Maybe try Fedora. That said, it isn't like the Fedora camp has done anything art / design wise that should garner any attention since F7 [06:18] o0Chris0o: 8 and the ever worse 9 are yikes. [06:19] I never used fedora [06:26] 8 was fine-ish, 9 was ugly. [06:27] SuSE 9.2 was nice, 9.3 was about the same, but everything thereafter was worse. [06:27] how do I install the ubuntu font? [06:28] DanaG: 8 was far far far away from fine. Diana _was_ the stunning Fedora work. When she left, there was nothing. [06:29] DanaG: Just look at how completely mediocre 8 was -- tonally, conceptually, execution, _everything_. [06:29] I guess that's what I meant by fine-ish. Mediocre is a better word. [06:29] DanaG: Unfortunately, when you set a bar with 7, it doesn't even reach mediocre. [06:29] Oh, did you mean "artist" instead of "work"? "Diana" is the name of a person.... [06:29] DanaG: Diana Fong. [06:29] DanaG: MFA [06:30] MFA? Oh, perhaps you're being tricky with the use of "WAS". [06:31] DanaG: Lol. No. Masters of Fine Arts. [06:32] AAh. [06:33] Sorry, I was just hung up on the wording: [A person] was the [work]. [06:34] DanaG: Well I intended it to be that "Diana was everything to do with Fedora's success." [06:35] Aah. [06:47] where can I download the ubuntu font? [06:51] so I am able to use it in artwork [06:52] isn't it included already? [06:53] It's called Continuum [06:53] and it's downloadable from the same part of the site where you can get other official artwork [06:53] Google harder [06:54] lol [06:54] excuse me for asking first [06:54] sorry, didn't think it was a problem [06:55] o0Chris0o: sudo apt-get install ttf-ubuntu-title [06:55] :) [06:56] thanks savvas [06:56] or here heh: http://www.dafont.com/ubuntu-title.font [07:04] o0Chris0o: It's in the repos. [07:04] o0Chris0o: savvas gave you the proper repository version iirc. [07:05] ok [07:05] so its not the right one [07:06] hm? [07:07] o0Chris0o: No, what savvas said was the exact command to get it to your desktop. There _is_ a modified version out there that is more professional looking, but it hasn't been adopted yet. [07:08] o0Chris0o: (and by more professional I mean that in the most typical of fashions -- more sculpted bowls with tapered axis lines etc.) [07:09] I see [07:09] !! [07:09] where? :) [07:09] you have the link troy_s ? [07:09] savvas: Let me find it for you. [07:10] I wish it was that easy when I asked first [07:10] all I get is "google harder" [07:10] lol [07:10] j/k [07:10] savvas: http://betatype.com/node/36 [07:10] lol [07:11] DON'T GOOGLE THAT term... ;) [07:12] mm sweet! thanks [07:13] savvas: Don't expect matches though. [07:13] savvas: He introduced a slightly modified humanist axis IIRC. [07:13] savvas: Although it is subtle. [07:14] Sure would be easier to tell with a side-by-side comparison pic. [07:14] Or over-under comparison. [07:14] DanaG: Not exactly unless you are sort of knowing what you are looking for. [07:14] DanaG: The biggest shift to get it more professional is the introduction of an axis. [07:15] Right now it's Apples and...... oh wait, the other one isn't even here. Great. [07:15] DanaG: From what I have seen of it, it is homogenous (as opposed to say, a post modern font with non homogenous axis). [07:15] DanaG: Did you type that line of savvas ? [07:15] DanaG: sudo aptitude install ttf-ubuntu-title [07:15] By "not even here" -- I mean in the page. [07:16] DanaG: ??? [07:16] Otherwise, I have to install both fonts, and type up my own thing with both fonts. [07:16] DanaG: You can have both co-existing as they are under different names. [07:16] DanaG: If you are interested. [07:18] ah. My whole point was that the web page itself would be better if it showed a comparison for us. [07:18] The actual differences don't concern me much -- I don't use the font myself, for anything. [07:18] DanaG: Oh... you need to be familiar with the font to appreciate what he did to it. And even then, by and large, most casual onlookers would probably not see much of a difference between the Fedora font and Ubuntu's anyways. [07:18] (rightfully so.) [07:20] Aah. [07:20] That reminds me... font rendering is one of my big reasons for using Linux as my primary OS. [07:21] DejaVu fonts and subpixel rendering -- sure beats Cleartype. The latter actually makes my eyes hurt. [07:21] DanaG: Font rendering is largely bound up with patent restrictions which is, by and large, why Linux's isn't quite as good as say, MacOSXs [07:21] Between OS X and Linux... they look quite different, but the actual subjective "quality" as a scalar-- I can't decide which I like better, actually. [07:21] DanaG: The main issue is the hinting logic as the rendering engines have proprietary and patent restricted uses of the byte code hinting. [07:22] DanaG: There has been some great work done on the free rendering front for certain. [07:23] did anyone hear who won the launchpad logo or which decision was made regarding the logo contest? [07:24] all they say at the website is "The contest is now closed and a decision has been reached!" :\ [07:24] is ubuntu-studio a flavor of ubuntu? [07:25] nvm [07:26] do any of you guys use it ;) [07:26] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/hardy/release/ :p [07:27] cool, do any of ya's use it :) [07:27] looks pretty cool [07:28] o0Chris0o: One of the devs (the head one) lives in here. [07:28] heh [07:28] o0Chris0o: _ MMA_ (I added the space to avoid pinging him) [07:29] cool [07:29] savvas: And no, no decision. If history serves as any indicator, don't hold your breath. ;) [07:34] ah ok [07:36] savvas: There is also a very likely probability (well likely is probably strong) that they dislike all of the submissions. [07:37] savvas: Which is a bit of a weak point in the whole 'contest' system of design. [07:39] they should let the people decide, not the devs [07:39] :\ [07:39] savvas: Make no mistake, voting isn't a good path for innovative design either. Arguably not even not-so-innovative. [07:40] true, very true [07:41] savvas: There just isn't some sort of silver bullet to alleviate anything as complicated as art and design woes. [08:15] I got a question, if you find a peice of artwork online...a good backdrop for what you want..would I be able to use it? [08:45] o0Chris0o: it depends on where it comes from and the license it is under [08:50] thats the thing [08:50] how do you tell? [08:50] lol [08:50] photobucket [08:53] you talk to the author [08:53] or look for any information which is posted with the pictures [08:54] I see [08:54] hmm [09:05] I dunno, I am so used to doing stuff for myself instead of "commerically" lol I never asked permission to use work I found of the net [09:13] you know of any image upload sites that will temporary save the address? so I can show others the work [09:14] ahh nvm, I rememered one tinypic ;) [09:15] its beena while since I messed arund with graphics [09:15] but here we go http://i32.tinypic.com/w8t6wz.jpg [09:27] if I were to use this as a wallpaper and send it in, I would most likely have to talk to the author or find the author :) [09:27] am kinda rusty still [09:29] kwwii ^ [09:32] o0Chris0o: hey, pretty nifty [09:32] ehh I can do better, but just trying to get the feel of girmp, a lil different then photoshop [09:32] gimp* [09:33] yeah, gimp is really different than photoshop [09:33] from time to time I still use photoshop because of that :-) [09:33] if I had a mac [09:33] but don't tell anyone [09:33] Id love to get photoshop [09:33] :p [09:33] oooo! [09:33] its handy [09:33] whast the newest out now photoshop 3? [09:34] CS3 [09:34] yes, I think so [09:35] what if you can't find an author of a picture? [09:35] or backdrop [09:35] then it is probably best not to use it [09:35] Ugh, that background reminds me of a low-quality CRT. [09:35] .... such as a standard TV. [09:36] yeah thats one of the plugins I used in gimp [09:36] well, for the wallpaper it is probably best to not use lines like that as it will sometimes be scaled down and that will cause a moire effect [09:38] I see [09:38] And try putting it on a cube and rotating that cube. [09:38] compiz? [09:39] Yeah. [09:39] does it look like crap or something? [09:44] Yeah. [09:44] Closely spaced parallel lines do, that is. [09:46] I see, trying to get ccsm running but the window froze [09:46] weird [09:46] can't close it out [09:47] ahh I like the terminal comes in handy to kill things [09:48] brb [10:36] would this be a nice start for an ibex wallpaper? :) http://savvas.radevic.com/previews/ubuntu-ibex/ubuntu-ibex-0.1.png [10:39] looks more like a poster to me [10:39] I like the idea of using some kind of stylized ibex though [10:40] I hope we get something as cool as the current Heron. [10:41] I'm actually using the transparent SVG version (linked right above the "gdm theme" screenshot on the wiki). [10:45] ibex is a type of ram huh [10:48] I am out guys bbl [10:48] have fun, have an art-tastic day! [10:48] lol [10:54] hehe, see you [12:28] kwwii: it's still in development, I got about 5 months to finish it :P [12:46] savvas: hehe :-) [13:11] Oh hey, random thing about day transitions: this ending theme here does it: [13:11] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB70vGTigh0 === Dana1 is now known as DanaG === Dana1 is now known as DanaG [20:48] mean. there has been an edit on https://help.launchpad.net/logo/submissions this morning. now you can read a decision has been made [20:48] but still no word on which one it will be [20:54] cool alot of nice logos [20:54] I bet it was tuff [20:55] sure