| dholbach | good morning | 06:18 |
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| davmor2 | guys can you check something out for me please. I wrote a bug about the user not having /usr/games in their path. I think I know why now. By default xephyr sets you up as user root this user doesn't have /usr/bin in their path however user ume does which is why I think you guys get it but xephyr people don't | 16:47 |
| lool | davmor2: I personally run Xephyr as ume, not as root and it's much saner; but the current Xephyr approach is a big hack, we should move away from this | 16:48 |
| lool | davmor2: One option is to use vms; mvo started a script to create such vms | 16:48 |
| lool | brz branch lp:~mvo/ubuntu-mobile/simple-image-builder | 16:48 |
| davmor2 | lool: Yeah I know now I hadn't bothered looking before :) | 16:49 |
| agoliveira | Not only a hack but Xephyr, in it's current form, is becoming a problem. Me davmor2 and cgregan spent quite some time figuring out that bunch of "false" icons and associated bugs. | 16:50 |
| lool | Please don't use Xephyr; I stopped doing so a while ago; it really sucks too much | 16:51 |
| lool | It's extremely time consuming to set it up properly | 16:51 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: you got a device haven't you? | 16:52 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: Yes I do and I know that you don't so currently is the only way for you to test. | 16:52 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: Well, I have a Q1 only, no CB boards. | 16:53 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: No I was going to ask you if you have tried out Ekiga yet. cgregan just tried he could hear me but I couldn't get hear him so looks like there might be an issue there | 16:54 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: Oh, I just looked at the camera issue but didn't actually used for anything. | 16:55 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: Did he check the micrpophone levels? Did the initial test worked? | 16:56 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: Camera apart you switch that off | 16:56 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: I beg your pardon? | 16:57 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: Sorry not good English. I mean you can ignore the camera it can be switched off. | 16:58 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: I'll ask cgregan after if he uped the volume on the mic. But I would guess he did. | 16:58 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: Yes it can. I meant that there was a bug that the camera didn't work and I saw it does on Q1 at least - I mean, an external camera. There's no driver for Q1's | 16:59 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: Ah right | 16:59 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: There's a test that ekiga does that let you loop back the mic and phones so you can hear yourself. | 16:59 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: Yes loop back test 500@ekiga.net That's how I set mine up correctly. | 17:00 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: However it doesn't work at all in xephyr no mic no speaker. So I was just using my standard Ekiga on my desktop. | 17:01 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: I see. Well, in this case he has to test on the device as well and se if there's no problem on his side. | 17:02 |
| agoliveira | cgregan: ^^^^^ | 17:02 |
| stgraber | davmor2: I guess you would have to kill pulseaudio before you can get ekiga to work with Xephyr | 17:02 |
| stgraber | davmor2: the ekiga running in the chroot can't access the local pulseaudio which is probably locking the mic/speaker | 17:02 |
| davmor2 | stgraber: no it works on my desktop. I have never had sound in xephyr | 17:03 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: On a plus side most of the apps are working correctly. | 17:05 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: Nice :) Thanks for the help, BTW. | 17:05 |
| davmor2 | Even though I'm needing to start them from command line :) | 17:06 |
| Zic | lool: hello, I know I already asked about this, but I need more info about "switching to another engine" on UME : you told me to take a look at /etc/hildon-desktop, but what can I modify in this directory to switch to another engine ? | 17:09 |
| lool | /etc/hildon-desktop/home-layout.conf points to /usr/share/applications/hildon-home/mobile-basic-home.desktop for example | 17:10 |
| lool | Zic: Start by reading desktop.conf, it describes which plugins to load | 17:10 |
| Zic | ok, thanks :) | 17:11 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: Just a quicky this is probably another issue with xephyr. On doc reader I select a doc to open and I get another window popup infront but there are no buttons on it etc so I can't close it. Do you get that on the device at all? | 17:43 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: Can you send me the document you're trying to see. Maybe it's a conversion bug. | 17:44 |
| cgregan | agoliveira: Hey..you caught me during lunch | 17:44 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: I created one by doing ls /usr/bin > app-list.txt | 17:45 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: Ah, makes sense. You're not using treb 0.9 are you? | 17:45 |
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| agoliveira | davmor2: Does the interface have a combo to select the file type? | 17:46 |
| davmor2 | It's okay I think I know why it's bleedin' evince opening up. | 17:49 |
| davmor2 | so treb is the office reader thing is it? | 17:50 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: | 17:50 |
| Zic | lool: ok, I understood how it works, by default, there is no other engine installed, do you know if the engine which works with Clutter is available on repository ? | 17:50 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: oh it is that one after all. | 17:51 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: thought I was going mad | 17:51 |
| davmor2 | brb tea | 17:52 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: Exactly. Treb is a laucnher that uses OO to convert MS office documents into PDFs and pass them to evince to display. | 17:52 |
| agoliveira | (or "for displaying"? Hmmm...) | 17:52 |
| lool | Zic: It is available from multiple places, the ppa to start with | 17:54 |
| lool | moblin-clutter-home | 17:55 |
| Zic | Yes, I have just finded the correct name of the package, "moblin-clutter-home" | 17:55 |
| Zic | thanks :) | 17:55 |
| Zic | hmm, I can load it with desktop-launcher -w, but not as an applet into UME like mobile basic ui | 18:13 |
| Zic | I want something like this : http://www.ubuntu.com/files/u1/clutter-small.jpg, but I can't add home clutter applet via home_ap_view>home_me_select_applet | 18:25 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: back right what the command to get the version number for treb | 18:25 |
| Zic | or, like in the screenshot, via menu on the top panel | 18:25 |
| Zic | an other question (sorry :)) : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/EmailUI are these just mockup ? | 18:31 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: apt-cache show treb | 18:32 |
| agoliveira | Zic: Yes, they are | 18:33 |
| Zic | is there any plan to work on UI of claws-mail ? | 18:33 |
| agoliveira | Zic: Nothing specific but UDS is coming so we may discuss that. | 18:34 |
| Zic | ok, thanks | 18:35 |
| Zic | because, for now to me, apps on UME are like apps on Maemo Platform : they seems not finger playable | 18:36 |
| Zic | just computer apps (and, in reality, it just what it is on Embedded platform based on GMAE actually) | 18:36 |
| Zic | except for the browser, nice work on both side :) | 18:36 |
| agoliveira | Zic: Yes, for now it's what they look like. We still have a lot of work to do on that. | 18:37 |
| Zic | I am sad not to be familiarized with integration GTK / Hildon sometimes:) | 18:38 |
| Zic | (to play with UI integration of embedded devices) | 18:39 |
| Zic | I must to leave, bye, and thanks for your help | 18:40 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: yes it's treb 0.9 | 18:44 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: And you're able to open any files? Did I add a * filter by mistake? :P | 18:45 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: no I created a txt file and I get a blank window in front of it want a screen shot to make it easier to understand | 18:46 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: It's not I'm asking about. I modified treb so you can't open any files that are not MS office's they should not show up into treb's interface that's why I'm asking how did you select it. | 18:48 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: Let me make a test, hold on, please. | 18:48 |
| agoliveira | do a test, actually... | 18:48 |
| * agoliveira is tired... | 18:48 | |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: do what I did ls /usr/bin > app-list.txt | 18:49 |
| davmor2 | quick easy text file | 18:49 |
| davmor2 | http://www.davmor2.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/weird1.png | 18:50 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: No need. I know what I've done | 18:50 |
| davmor2 | okay cool | 18:50 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: As I suspected, I added a "all files" filter as well (which actually means no filter at all) and you're trying to open a .txt which messes with openoofice's conversion process. | 18:51 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: I'll open a bug to modify this. | 18:51 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: No Prabs happy to help :) | 18:55 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: Sure and thanks! | 18:56 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: out of curiosity what app is being used for .txt files and the like?# | 18:56 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: Well, one can use the mousepad but there's no file association AFAIK. | 18:57 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: okay no probs | 18:58 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: is the pim stuff in place and should it work against the clock/calendar? | 19:00 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: For now it's standalone, not integrated with the clock applet. | 19:00 |
| davmor2 | so the pim includes contacts and tasks anything else? | 19:01 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: can you try something for me. I just tried running claws-mail from cli and nothing happened but it will run from desktop icon. Bit concerning | 19:14 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: Hold on. | 19:17 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: Looks like a permission problem when trying to bind on /tmp but, anyway, no program is supposed to be run from the console so it's not a problem actually. | 19:19 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: okay No probs | 19:19 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: is gnash not plugged into the midbrowser by default? | 19:24 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: I dont think so. | 19:26 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: right so no flash on xephyr it dies trying to install | 19:30 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: Have you tried adobe's plugin? | 19:31 |
| davmor2 | yes just jotting down the error message for you now :) | 19:31 |
| davmor2 | agoliveira: Error reads. MidBrowser could not install this item because "install-ccx..rdf" (provided by the item) is not well formed or does not exist. Please contact the author about this problem. | 19:35 |
| agoliveira | davmor2: I have no idea what that means. Maybe asac can help? | 19:36 |
| davmor2 | asac: ping | 19:36 |
| asac | yes? | 19:36 |
| asac | yeah ... its adobes fault (i assume its installing flash) | 19:37 |
| asac | use ubufox ;) | 19:37 |
| davmor2 | asac: It is indeed not up to me or I would :) | 19:37 |
| asac | story is that the .xpi installer provided on adobe website uses a really old mechanism that predates firefox | 19:38 |
| davmor2 | asac: mind you when I saw that gnash was installed I'd of thought that the plugin would of been in too so you got youtube working at least :) | 19:38 |
| asac | huh? so gnash isn't working? | 19:39 |
| davmor2 | asac: That's friggin' useful then :) | 19:39 |
| davmor2 | asac: when I click on a youtube vid it says plugin missing across the top at which point it tries to install flash from adobe | 19:40 |
| asac | with gnash installed? | 19:42 |
| asac | do you see gnash in about:plugins | 19:42 |
| asac | ? | 19:42 |
| davmor2 | asac: http://www.davmor2.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/plugins.png | 19:44 |
| asac | davmor2: yeah ... about:plugins? | 19:52 |
| asac | not there as well? | 19:52 |
| asac | is gnash installed? | 19:52 |
| davmor2 | asac: ah right sorry with you | 19:52 |
| davmor2 | hang on | 19:52 |
| asac | update-alternatives --list xulrunner-addons-flashplugin | 19:53 |
| asac | and update-alternatives --config xulrunner-addons-flashplugin | 19:53 |
| asac | if you are sure gnash is the current alternative ... it should work ;) | 19:53 |
| davmor2 | asac: mozplugger contains loads but no flash | 19:55 |
| davmor2 | update-alternatives command not found. | 19:58 |
| davmor2 | I'm off now anyway I | 19:59 |
| davmor2 | it's getting late bye | 19:59 |
| dijenerate | anyone here using a Vaio UX? | 22:42 |
| dijenerate | I need a little help with Monday's build | 22:42 |
| asac | any hard freezes on ubuntu-mobile archive right now? need to update xulrunner to include the critical fix we rolled to hardy-updates | 23:39 |
| asac | if noone raises hands i will upload. should be low risk | 23:40 |
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