[00:01] <jimmy_> asac: i'll work on it a little bit
[00:03] <alperyilmaz> extensions and other settings are working but mail folders and accounts does not show-up.. that's weird.. still googling..
[00:08] <alperyilmaz> it looks like pref.js is corrupted..
[05:43] <gnomefreak> ls
[05:43] <gnomefreak> oops
[05:55] <gnomefreak> anyone know if the libflashsupport crash bug affects firefox 2?
[06:37] <gnomefreak> is it possible to close upstream bugs?
[06:50] <asac> argh. power outage
[06:54] <gnomefreak> why cant i change status of upstream bugs?
[07:01] <asac> gnomefreak: why not?
[07:01] <asac> as long as they are not associated with another bug system it should be fine
[07:01] <gnomefreak> asac: dont know why not. I should beable to change it from interface(website) right?
[07:03] <asac> yes, but might depend on your project role
[07:06] <gnomefreak> ah i didnt know there was levels for bugzilla
[07:07]  * gnomefreak going through bugs from 2005 - 2007 atm ranging from gnome bugs to X bugs seems people dont change status when bug is fixed or EOLS and its annoying seeing them in my LP bugs page
[07:38] <gnomefreak> asac: feel like closing a debian bug and a mozilla bug? bug is from 1.5 and has been confirmed to be fixed.
[07:38] <asac> id?
[07:39] <gnomefreak> mozilla bug 331716
[07:39] <gnomefreak> debian bug 362569
[07:40] <gnomefreak> it looks unlikely it will be fixed in anything <3.0 per debian and mozilla latest comment was a long time ago and this is confirmed fixed in 3.0
[07:40] <asac> ok the breakage of my system is so massive that i will probably be out for half the day gathering hardware pieces
[07:41] <asac> hope that my hardiscs survived this
[07:41]  * gnomefreak will most likely be sleeping its 2:41am nad im still up
[07:44] <[reed]> asac: heh, what happened?
[07:45] <asac> not sure ... i woke up, the fuse was busted
[07:46] <asac> turned electric on again, now there is no power on my mainboard :(
[07:46] <asac> nothing happens
[07:46] <asac> so lets hope its the power supply pack
[07:47] <asac> air smelled a bit burned :/
[07:47] <asac> in short: not that great
[08:02] <gnomefreak> ok im going to see if i can sleep tonight since its 3am
[08:46]  * asac off getting some supplies ;)
[09:22] <gnomefreak> bug 230107
[09:50] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 197781 he is using firefox in a way it wasnt intended IMHO scrolling through prefferences using arrows by holding them down to scroll through them multiple times than he sees the bug i would rather not tell him hes using it in an unsopported way but he is.
[09:50] <asac> hmm ... lets if this keeps working
[09:52] <gnomefreak> oh i just set up apport for hardy be back i have to reboot to finish
[10:03] <gnomefreak> update-manager is about to piss me off
[10:03] <gnomefreak> asac: your network-manager bug person is getting impatent
[10:05] <gnomefreak> working on setting up anymeal
[10:05] <asac> gnomefreak: who is my network-manager bug person?
[10:05] <gnomefreak> crap
[10:06] <gnomefreak> i just closed tb and it empties trash (sorry my mind isnt awake since it hasnt had sleep in 2 days
[10:06] <gnomefreak> oh the css one
[10:07] <asac> gnomefreak: why cant you sleep still?
[10:07] <gnomefreak> he said hes gonna fix the css on the page and see how ff does but wanted a fix for it other than a workaround (but i thought it said n-m
[10:07] <asac> thought it should get better after hospital
[10:07] <gnomefreak> asac: not sure ive had issues since friday
[10:08] <gnomefreak> asac: i think its stress
[10:08] <asac> most likely jack :)
[10:08] <gnomefreak> hmm anymeal is kde
[10:09] <gnomefreak> oh here we go
[10:09] <gnomefreak> but 82927
[10:09] <gnomefreak> bug 82927
[10:09] <gnomefreak> ^^ n-m one
[10:10] <gnomefreak> asac: how did you reproduce that bug? the one with scrolling through preff. i cant even scroll i have to go to right than left than right
[10:11] <asac> gnomefreak: click on "Content"
[10:11] <asac> then use arrow keys left and right
[10:11] <asac> that should go to  other preference panel
[10:12] <asac> if you do it real quick some panels get empty
[10:12] <asac> some get content from the other panel
[10:12] <asac> and so on
[10:13] <asac> gnomefreak: please dont assign bugs to mozilla-bugs anymore if they are incomplete ... otherwise they will not auto expire ;)
[10:13] <asac> i first hated it, but now i think it makes sense as it would catch inactive bugs we failed to track
[10:26] <gnomefre1k> damnit
[10:31] <gnomefreak> asac: it seems people go around and if they are not bug team tags they remove them and i wish there was a way to stop them since we rely on tags to make bug work a tiny bit easier. anyway of doing this?
[10:32] <asac> no ... just educate every single one doing this
[10:32] <asac> likely-dup is important
[10:34] <gnomefreak> yes i know i would also like people to use upstream tag i will go looking upstream once a week once i have bugs and tags on them fo rit
[10:34] <gnomefreak> this way we can get things a bit cleaned up
[10:34] <gnomefreak> s/fo rit/for it
[10:35] <asac> gnomefreak: lets use the empty upstream bug way
[10:35] <gnomefreak> asac: what way?
[10:35] <asac> if ou see a bug that needs to be forwarded, just add "Project" ... but don't set a upstream bug id
[10:35] <asac> you can then search for those bugs in advanced search by selecting
[10:35] <gnomefreak> asac: i have no way of searching for them than
[10:35] <gnomefreak> oh you can?
[10:36] <asac> "Show bugs that need to be forwarded to an upstream bug tracker"
[10:36] <asac> try that
[10:36] <asac> i added a bunch of empty upstream targets in the last few days
[10:36] <asac> to indicate that we should search for upstream bug and if it doesn't exist file one
[10:37] <asac> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.status_upstream=pending_bugwatch&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_cve.used=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&search=Search
[10:37] <gnomefreak> thats new
[10:37] <asac> quite old in fact
[10:37] <asac> at least for 1.5 years it exists
[10:37] <gnomefreak> ive never seen it there
[10:37] <asac> ;)
[10:37] <asac> hidden secrets
[10:37] <gnomefreak> :)
[10:37] <gnomefreak> thats the full search?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> 8 whole bugs
[10:38] <gnomefreak> and atleast one has been reported upstream already
[10:38] <gnomefreak> :)
[10:43] <asac> gnomefreak: no idea ... thought i added more, but i try to not forward everything
[10:44] <gnomefreak> asac: i will edit the tags wiki to read something like please do not remove tags on mozilla related bugs as we use them to search since we have a ton of bugs
[10:44] <gnomefreak> not worded right atm and i would like a <#> for a ton
[10:46] <gnomefreak> so when they remove tags add it back and refer them to wiki, when they read wiki maybe that would be better than trying to explain it on every bug just please read $wiki for a reason, sorry my mind went blank
[10:46] <gnomefreak> I really nee dsomething about mozilla in my signature for email
[10:46] <asac> well ... the wiki page should certainly be revisisited
[10:46] <gnomefreak> im gonna be using email alot more
[10:46] <asac> to account for new launchpad features
[10:47] <asac> gnomefreak: using gpg/mime should work
[10:47] <asac> it does for me
[10:47] <gnomefreak> asac: yep it was on my to do list but when system got screwed up i lost it
[10:48] <gnomefreak> asac: what about gpg
[10:49] <asac> bug 133133
[10:49] <asac> gnomefreak: you need to sign mails if you want to modify bug status et al
[10:49]  * gnomefreak wonders if its worth writing a script for greasmonkey witha  list of most used responses just wish i knew how to do that, one of these days i have a library and 3 scripts to write. write == copy out of book and make a couple of changes
[10:49] <gnomefreak> asac: i do sign them or is gpg not signing them?
[10:50] <gnomefreak> that would explain why it didnt prompt me
[10:50] <gnomefreak> asac: looking into  it atm
[10:50] <asac> gnomefreak: if you are using thunderbird you need enigmail
[10:51] <fta2> debian bug 429619
[10:51] <gnomefreak> asac: i have it but i played with it today and i guess i touched something taht caused this
[10:55] <gnomefreak> where would the profile for enigmail be? assuming its not in .mozilla
[10:56] <asac> gnomefreak: install enigmail + thunderbird and just setup openpgp in the server account settings
[10:57] <asac> gnomefreak: but i guess you should try to get some rest before trying something like this ;)
[10:57] <gnomefreak> asac: it was already i removed enigmail a sec. ago and i wanted to get rid of settings as well incase it is a setting i changed in advanced
[11:01] <gnomefreak> nope that didnt work
[11:02] <gnomefreak> UNTRUSTED Good signature from John Vivirito (gnomefreak) <gnomefreak@gmail.com>
[11:02] <gnomefreak> but its just not asking for passphrase nor do i see the gpg sig in email
[11:03] <asac> gnomefreak: try to send a mail
[11:03] <asac> select "sign mail"
[11:03] <asac> if that works all is fine
[11:03] <asac> you can select "sign mail by default" somewhere in settings
[11:03] <asac> gnomefreak: but i guess you lost your private key
[11:03] <gnomefreak> asac: i have it set
[11:03] <asac> do you still have your old .gnupg directory?
[11:03] <asac> thats where it should be in
[11:03] <gnomefreak> yes i have it
[11:03] <asac> $HOME/.gnupg
[11:04] <asac> gnomefreak: gpg --list-secret-keys
[11:04] <asac> if that shows you anything
[11:04] <gnomefreak> gpg-confirm.txt  pubring.gpg   revoke.asc   ubuntu-coc.txt
[11:04] <gnomefreak> gpg.conf         pubring.gpg~  secring.gpg  ubuntu-coc.txt.asc
[11:04] <gnomefreak> public.key       random_seed   trustdb.gpg
[11:04] <asac> you should set one of those keys in your server settings as key
[11:15] <asac> bug 229878
[11:26] <gnomefreak> asac: you still have link for reply-to* for tb2?
[11:36] <asac> reply to list?
[11:37] <gnomefreak> yeah im looking for it. the extension for tb
[11:37] <asac> start from here http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/114-thunderbird-+-reply-to-list-...-here-it-comes.html
[11:38] <gnomefreak> is that the latest version?
[11:38] <asac> not sure
[11:38] <asac> but you will surely find it from there ;)
[11:39] <gnomefreak> yeah but cant get it
[11:40] <gnomefreak> wait on that thought
[11:42] <gnomefreak> now i wait for a mailing list post to comment on
[11:44]  * gnomefreak wonders why openssh-* needs to be upgraded usin dist-upgrade
[11:44] <gnomefreak> intrepid upgraded them with upgrade
[12:04] <asac> mission accomplished ... bug mail queue empty ;)
[12:07]  * asac shakes his wrists in pain
[12:19] <gnomefreak> my key is signing the email (the little blue/green part above the subject says its signed but it doesnt look singed to me it used to print our in body of email,
[12:25] <gnomefreak> asac: please hang out for a minute or 2 i want to show you something
[12:26] <asac> ok will smoke before gong to lunch then ;)
[12:27] <gnomefreak> asac: http://www.flickr.com/photos/26378196@N05/2492211012/ thats what enigmail looks like when signing, why did it stop adding keys to the body of message?
[12:27]  * gnomefreak goes for smoke as well
[12:28] <fta> asac, seems i can't get in touch with any of the listed ubuntu-bugcontrol admins. i'm gonna expire :P
[12:33] <fta> http://blog.drinsama.de/erich/en/linux/2008051401-debian-openssl-desaster
[12:38] <gnomefreak> ok im going to lay down if anyone needs me ill be back a bit later im starting to get really tired
[12:47] <armin_> :D
[12:47] <armin_> fta: :D
[12:48] <armin_> fta: i have the updater enabled on xulrunner, and disabled on ff, and you can't check for new versions :)
[12:48] <armin_> i'm using chatzilla with xul 1.9
[12:49] <fta> does xul even support the updater ?
[12:49] <armin_> yup
[12:50] <armin_> well, not sure, if i run /update it shows the updater thing
[12:50] <fta> btw, if it's installed system wide, a user should not have the privileges to upgrade anything
[12:50] <armin_> of course
[12:51] <armin_> you can disable chatzilla being update, like all mozilla ap
[12:51] <armin_> p
[12:51] <armin_> uh, updated*
[13:08] <asac> fta: pedro? bdmurray?
[13:11] <asac> fta: pinged him
[14:39] <asac> hey elpargo :)
[14:39] <elpargo> hi, I didn't knew this channel existed.
[14:39] <asac> it exists ;)
[14:42] <armin76> lies
[14:42] <asac> elpargo: this channel is the right place if you want to work on mozilla related topic. The mozillateam is the team that maintains the core pieces and applications of mozilla. the mozilla-extensions-dev package is the one that takes care for extension maintenance in ubuntu. both teams discussions are going on here ;)
[14:42] <elpargo> my guess is that ff3 is changing something on the profile/.files that is making ff2's instalation of firebug throw out an exception. not sure if you have seen something like it.
[14:42] <asac> elpargo: 1st. did you know that we packaged a workable firebug extensions? so users can still use it with ffox3?
[14:43] <elpargo> asac, yea but it's 1.2 which is alpha.
[14:44] <asac> does it lack features or has severe bugs?
[14:45] <elpargo> well given that my original complain is why the upgrade got me to ff3 going to alpha is not a good idea.
[14:45] <elpargo> Don't get me wrong I like to mess around with alpha I got websites running off the trunk of some projects. but in the browser specially at this point in time I want full stability.
[14:46] <asac> yes, but is there instability if you use the latest firebug package?
[14:49] <elpargo> to be honest I didn't tested it. but ff3 itself gave me several problems with flash (no sound) also with some 100CPU and sometime when I closed it it hanged in the back.
[14:49] <asac> elpargo: that CPU issue should be fixed for most cases
[14:50] <asac> flash itself is broken ... which is only partially related
[14:52] <elpargo> asac, tell me about it. flash sucks bigtime. but sadly it's popular.
[14:52] <asac> elpargo: you should really give it a try with an up-to-date system ... and take care that the libflashsupport is not installed ... which you might have if you upgraded to hardy before final release ... or by some other coincident
[14:53] <asac> in any case ... removing the extensions.* files in your profile should fix your ffox 2 problem i guess
[14:54] <elpargo> I ran a full upgrade to 8.04 about a week ago. before that I was in maintenance branch of 7.10.
[14:55] <elpargo> asac, yea that is what I did I first tried to edit the files but ff didn't liked it. and loaded nothing.
[14:56] <asac> elpargo: removing them should be ok
[14:56] <asac> the extensions.* files will get recreated (note not the extensions/ dir) :)
[14:58] <elpargo> cool I didn't knew that either.
[14:59] <asac> ok, now that you know ... try ffox 3 seriously ... as you know how to get back ;)
[14:59] <asac> hehe
[15:03] <elpargo> ahh crap ok.
[15:13] <elpargo> asac, i'm running ff3 I installed the firebug package and when it loaded it disabled the old firebug and the new one is nowhere to be found.
[15:14] <asac> elpargo: you have to uninstall it from addons -> tools
[15:14] <asac> profile installs will always hide global installs
[15:14] <asac> which probably can be considered a bug ... but it was always that way
[15:16] <elpargo> ok did that and now it's on the addons window but I don't see the icon nor f12 works.
[15:17] <elpargo> ok a second restart fixed that.
[15:17] <asac> good
[15:23]  * gnomefreak just checking in mail and such my plan is to go back to sleep
[15:25] <gnomefreak> asac: when did  we package swiftweasel? we as in Ubuntu not Mozillateam
[15:27] <asac> no we didn't
[15:29] <gnomefreak> why is bug 137993 even around for than :(
[15:29] <gnomefreak> its a debian merge of mplayer removing browsers as a depends
[15:29] <gnomefreak> as i recall mplayer is most used in browser
[15:32] <gnomefreak> maybe i guess depend on browsers with mplayer-plugin
[15:32] <asac> gnomefreak: commented
[15:32] <gnomefreak> ok will go back to it thanks :)
[15:33] <gnomefreak> i guess it doesnt matter though when i gave you bug # it was still open iirc now its inprogress
[15:34] <asac> ok
[15:35] <gnomefreak> meaning it looks as if they are gonna do it without our input and i guess that is fine since its motu that works on it?
[15:36] <gnomefreak> or maybe it was there
[15:39] <gnomefreak> personally i dont think we should change it because a user uses a browser that we dont package, that kind of implies that we support swiftweasel but im going on,
[15:40] <gnomefreak> i guess enigmail still adds -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
[15:40] <gnomefreak> Hash: SHA1
[15:40] <gnomefreak> to emails but not on mine :(
[15:55] <asac> gnomefreak: the bug id you gave me is only remotely related to swiftweasel
[15:55] <asac> all it asks for is a way to install our package globally without installing one of our browsers
[15:55] <gnomefreak> its about removing depends on browsers
[15:55] <gnomefreak> does mplayer really need xulrunner?
[15:56] <asac> gnomefreak: only the plugin package needs xulrunner or _any_ other browser to work properly
[15:56] <asac> but thats why i say recommends would be fine
[15:56] <gnomefreak> asac: than why would they make the stand alone mplayer depend on xul or browsers
[15:57] <gnomefreak> recommend both no need to add depends it doesnt need, and we know xulrunner is not small by anymeans
[15:57] <asac> gnomefreak: not its the plugin package that depends on it
[15:57] <asac> thats what i understood at least
[15:57] <asac> its filed against mozilla-mplayer after all
[15:58] <gnomefreak> there are 2 bugs about this one plugin and one standalone
[15:58] <asac> standalone has nothing to do with ffox
[15:58] <gnomefreak> i know
[15:59] <gnomefreak> So it can be added as Dependency with another |, so it's or a gecko browser
[16:00] <gnomefreak> or xulrunner
[16:00] <gnomefreak> 1 person says one thing and everyone else says something different from eachother
[16:00] <asac> gnomefreak: no all those need to go to recommends ... xulrunner is wrong ...xulrunner-1.9 might be ok, but in fact alone its not really helpful
[16:01] <gnomefreak> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mplayerplug-in/+bug/137993/comments/5
[16:01] <gnomefreak> that is what i gave you above not my idea
[16:01] <gnomefreak> if it doesnt need depends wtf add them to deps when there is recommends
[16:02] <gnomefreak> +Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, firefox | mozilla-browser | galeon | epiphany-browser | konqueror, mplayer (>= 1.0~pre5) | mplayer-nogui
[16:02] <gnomefreak> that is from latest debdiff
[16:03] <gnomefreak> the debdiff doesnt even show recommends
[16:03] <gnomefreak> and hell mozilla-browser isnt even supported that is seamonkey now
[16:03] <asac> midbrowser is supported through xulrunner-1.9
[16:04] <gnomefreak> but isnt in deps for mplayer
[16:04] <gnomefreak> if you dont need browsers for an app dont depend on them all browser deps should be downgraded
[16:05] <gnomefreak> downgraded to recommends, i will smoke and than add my comment nicely to downgrade all browsers to rec.
[16:08] <asac> gnomefreak: thats what i already said in the bug, didn't i?
[16:11] <gnomefreak> you said we might concider it, without reason
[16:18] <asac> ok
[16:21] <gnomefreak> btw we are missing Places from firefox, is this purposly done?
[16:21] <asac> ?
[16:22] <gnomefreak> firefox 3 added a Places menu i thought (it was renamed to Places dont remember what places replaced
[16:24] <gnomefreak> once im done looking in upstream bugs i will get you the changes page for it on mozilla site, but it was one of the first things that they did on ff3
[16:26] <gnomefreak> should we tell users to file bugs upstream if its not already a bug upstream or should we do it?
[16:36] <gnomefreak> [Improved in Beta 5!]  Places Organizer: view, organize and search through all of your bookmarks, tags, and browsing history with multiple views and smart folders to store your frequent searches. Create and restore full backups whenever you want
[16:36] <asac> we should do it ... or someone good at bug triaging
[16:37] <gnomefreak> asac: ^^^ places
[16:38] <gnomefreak> asac: they were gonna put a radio button for places in tool bar iirc
[16:38] <gnomefreak> and i know its on ff3 for windows
[16:46] <gnomefreak> asac: are you using enigmail from repos in tb?
[16:46] <gnomefreak> im gonna test the .xpi to see if it signs email in body of email
[16:54] <asac> gnomefreak: the recent huge font issues are https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384090
[16:54] <asac> i guess there were about 10 or so ;)
[16:55] <asac> mozilla Bug 430925] New: Scrollbox smooth
[16:55] <asac> is one scroll perf issue i guess
[17:02] <gnomefreak> asac: none of them are on the list :(
[17:04] <gnomefreak> asac: can you still reproduce bug 107247
[17:05] <gnomefreak> its a year old at this time
[17:05] <gnomefreak> would like to get it upstream if its still being seen and with what browser?
[17:09] <asac> caret browsing is a feature
[17:09] <asac> dont think its a bug
[17:10] <asac> ok let me comment
[17:10] <gnomefreak> you gonna comment or
[17:10] <gnomefreak> ok nevermind
[17:10] <gnomefreak> :)
[17:13] <gnomefreak> asac: what does "There are no permission bits set on your account" mean in mozilla's bugzilla
[17:16] <asac> ?
[17:16] <asac> what are you trying to do?
[17:16] <asac> most likely you don't have the proper permissions for the operation you are trying to do?
[17:18] <gnomefreak> asac: no that is in my profile
[17:18] <gnomefreak> i was jsut wondering what it meant
[17:19] <asac> ah
[17:19] <asac> well .. can have different meaning
[17:19] <asac> hard to say
[17:20] <asac> most likely somewhat corrupted
[17:20] <asac> often curable though
[17:20] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[17:28] <gnomefreak> could it be one of my settings? like maybe always use PGP/MIMI by default, setting that i wouldnt think would cause this enigmail issue i have
[17:30] <gnomefreak> nope enigmail is borked i think
[17:35] <gnomefreak> what the hell am i going to do to fix this im kind of worried why its happening did i change something
[17:36] <gnomefreak> NO SLEEP AND WORKING ON PC is not smart :(
[17:37] <gnomefreak> lol i mark bug upstream and they give me a work around but say nothing about fixing it or changing it
[17:40] <gnomefreak> asac: if you have any ideas on what to check for my enigmail issue please let me know, it is set to sign by default. but still doesnt give me key info in body of email
[17:44] <asac> gnomefreak: sign will only happen when you send a mail
[17:45] <gnomefreak> yes i know and its not
[17:50] <asac> is the green pen visible in the compose window?
[17:50] <asac> can you explicitly set that that it should be signed in the menu/toolbar in compose window?
[17:50] <gnomefreak> yes in bottom right corner
[17:51] <gnomefreak> asac: you have email i sent you screen shot of settings and attached my key since it encrypted it but failed to sign it
[17:52] <asac> gnomefreak: that message is signed
[17:52] <asac> :)
[17:52] <gnomefreak> not in the body is it?
[17:52] <gnomefreak> normally i would see it and it should ask for a passphrase before sending for my sig
[17:53] <asac> gnomefreak: the complete text + attachment are signed in the mail you send itself (didn't look at attachments)
[17:53] <asac> gnomefreak: click on your mail in the sent folder
[17:53] <asac> do you see its signed there?
[17:53] <gnomefreak> no
[17:54] <gnomefreak> i see 2 attachments and the body of email exactly as it left here just text from typing no sig anywhere
[17:54] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe enable openpgp for all servers
[17:54] <gnomefreak> where?
[17:54] <asac> gnomefreak: not a bar on top?
[17:54] <asac> gnomefreak: in server settings
[17:54] <asac> each account has a opengpg thing
[17:55] <gnomefreak> yes that is what i sent you a screenshot of
[17:55] <asac> also look at the advanced options
[17:55] <asac> maybe you can say: use this as default or so
[17:55] <asac> yeah enable it for _all_ accounts
[17:56] <gnomefreak> it is for all accounts
[17:56] <asac> then i dont know
[17:57] <asac> your mail i retrieved was definitly signed
[18:00] <gnomefreak> what is "Add Enigmail comment in OpenGPG signature"?
[18:00] <gnomefreak> taht was unchecked
[18:02] <asac> no idea ;)
[18:02] <asac> cant remember such an option/dialog
[18:02] <gnomefreak> its in advanced
[18:03] <asac> well thats just that a enigmail banner will be added to the opengpg signature comment region
[18:04] <asac> so people that see your sig get to know about enigmail
[18:04] <gnomefreak> oh
[18:04] <asac> kind of contributing back through advertisement
[18:04] <gnomefreak> sent myself email to another box to see if signed
[18:06] <gnomefreak> yeah its signing them its just im not seeing it, including on bugs
[18:08] <gnomefreak> i dont get why its ont showing up in bugs
[18:08] <gnomefreak> bug 221906
[18:08] <gnomefreak> checking bug for signature
[18:10] <gnomefreak> it is signing them just hidden inside the ....
[18:21] <gnomefreak> now im seeign it before it gets sent
[18:30] <gnomefreak> ok gone for a bit.
[19:02] <fta_> back
[19:20] <asac> gnomefreak: you wont see it if you use pgp/mime ... but you will see a green or yellow bar on top of the mail when visiting
[19:21] <asac> you also have to enabled auto-decrpty/verify
[19:21] <asac> or push the crypto button in toolbar
[20:04] <fta> damn, i can't update miro, python-gtk2/gnome2 is a total mess in intrepid
[20:15] <willguaraldi> fta: is miro kicking up errors when you're compiling?
[20:16] <fta> well, i have python-gtk2-dev first
[20:17] <fta> but python-gtk2-dev -> python-gnome2-extras -> python-gobject-dev python-gtk2 -> python-gobject -> libffi4
[20:17] <fta> and libffi4 is gone
[20:17] <fta> it was in gcc 4.2
[20:18] <fta> now, there's a standalone libffi5 so there's an incomplete transition
[20:21] <willguaraldi> oh icky.
[20:22] <willguaraldi> ok.  feel free to kick me if you're having problems with getting miro to compile/work on intrepid.  i haven't touched intrepid yet--working on other things right now.
[20:23] <fta> thanks. well, i've been packaging miro from trunk for more than a year now so i'm quite comfortable with it :)
[20:23] <jimmy_> asac: ping
[20:24] <willguaraldi> cool.
[20:28] <asac> jimmy_: have to restart X ... will be back in a min
[20:33] <asac> jimmy_: news?
[20:34] <jimmy_> asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12111/
[20:34] <jimmy_> I modified the urlbar with the property instead
[20:35] <jimmy_> asac: take a look and see if you can integrate it or not, if so, i'll commit it
[20:36] <asac> jimmy_: ok. did you test that it works? where is that attribute set now?
[20:36] <asac> ah. ok
[20:36] <jimmy_> yeah, i tested it, right now, i am setting in the urlbindings
[20:36] <asac> you could also set the attribute in xml/xul
[20:36] <asac> not in code
[20:37] <asac> jimmy_: could you move the property to the end of the property list defined in that file?
[20:37] <asac> then i think we can integrate that patch
[20:38] <asac> please uncommit or revert the last patch so we have this kicker patch in a clean fashion
[20:38] <asac> great
[20:38] <jimmy_> asac: ok, i'll move it to the end
[20:39] <jimmy_> asac: i already revert the previous patches I made to this
[21:05] <fta> asac, we are the build logs for debian ?
[21:05] <fta> where
[21:06] <e-gandalf> hi
[21:06] <[reed]> e-gandalf: you're coming to UDS?
[21:06] <e-gandalf> yep
[21:06] <[reed]> ah, cool
[21:06] <[reed]> I'll be there
[21:06] <e-gandalf> really!?
[21:06] <e-gandalf> great!
[21:06] <[reed]> yep
[21:06] <e-gandalf> are you going to be there for the whole week?
[21:06] <[reed]> yep
[21:06] <e-gandalf> I'll be just for Mon/Wed
[21:06] <[reed]> k
[21:08] <[reed]> well, look forward to meeting you :)
[21:09] <e-gandalf> me too
[21:09] <e-gandalf> do you have any details on the schedule?
[21:09] <e-gandalf> agenda?
[21:09] <e-gandalf> anyone else from mozilla will be there?
[21:09] <[reed]> blizzard was almost coming, but it didn't work out :/
[21:09] <[reed]> and caillon can't make it
[21:10] <[reed]> I don't know of anybody else
[21:10] <e-gandalf> is there any plan at all?
[21:10] <e-gandalf> I have a feeling it's a bit chaotic
[21:10] <e-gandalf> comparing to our summits
[21:10] <e-gandalf> not that ours is overplanned...
[21:10] <[reed]> http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/uds-boston-2007/
[21:10] <[reed]> that was for the last UDS
[21:10] <[reed]> in Boston
[21:11] <e-gandalf> have you ever visit Prague?
[21:11] <[reed]> nope, never even been to Europe
[21:11] <[reed]> :)
[21:11] <e-gandalf> oh!
[21:11] <e-gandalf> when you're flying in?
[21:11] <e-gandalf> do you have a guide already? ;]
[21:11] <[reed]> I leave Friday from here... get there Saturday afternoon
[21:11] <blizzard> no blizzard :(
[21:11] <e-gandalf> we can do a beering on sunday
[21:12] <[reed]> I don't drink, but I'd love to have a tour guide :)
[21:12] <e-gandalf> that's fine, we can do that :)
[21:12] <e-gandalf> although I must say you miss something uncatchable by not drinking absinthe in prague ;)
[21:13] <[reed]> lol
[21:13] <[reed]> no thanks :)
[21:13] <e-gandalf> :)
[21:13] <e-gandalf> I'm trying to get in touch with Czilla people
[21:13] <e-gandalf> for a meeting
[21:13] <e-gandalf> would you like to join us?
[21:14] <fta> asac, nm, found it
[21:14] <[reed]> e-gandalf: sure
[21:15] <e-gandalf> are you staying in the default hotel?
[21:15] <[reed]> yeah
[21:15] <[reed]> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Intrepid
[21:15] <e-gandalf> Corinthia Towers
[21:15] <e-gandalf> nice
[21:15] <e-gandalf> me too
[21:17] <[reed]> when do you get there?
[21:17] <e-gandalf> 4:30 pm Sunday
[21:17] <[reed]> k
[21:17] <e-gandalf> cool!
[21:17] <[reed]> ;)
[21:18] <e-gandalf> I miss any way I could have figure out that you'll be coming earlier
[21:18] <e-gandalf> some central event participation sheet ;)
[21:18] <[reed]> hehe
[21:18] <[reed]> well, the attendees that Canonical is providing for all got sent a spreadsheet with everybody's name
[21:19] <[reed]> and our roommates and such for the week... turns out my roommate for the week is a Bugzilla developer ;P
[21:20] <e-gandalf> who? :D
[21:20] <fta> [reed], they've reordered the roomies based on arrival dates apparently
[21:21] <[reed]> fta: oh?
[21:21] <[reed]> e-gandalf: bkor
[21:21] <[reed]> fta: where'd you hear that?
[21:21] <fta> [reed], no, i mean, the file is fine
[21:22] <[reed]> ah
[21:22] <fta> i arrive saturday
[21:23] <[reed]> well, they had my arrival date wrong
[21:23] <[reed]> when that list was sent out
[21:23] <e-gandalf> hehe
[21:23] <[reed]> I got that fixed
[21:23] <[reed]> :)
[21:23] <fta> but you're still arriving sunday, right ?
[21:23] <e-gandalf> [reed]: wait a second, boy! Aren't *you* a bugzilla developer too? :D\
[21:24] <[reed]> I am
[21:24] <[reed]> :)
[21:24] <[reed]> fta: no, Saturday
[21:24] <fta> oh
[21:25] <fta> fossdem or tourism ?
[21:25] <[reed]> jetlag.
[21:25] <[reed]> ;)
[21:25] <fta> lol
[21:25] <fta> even sunday ?
[21:25] <[reed]> ?
[21:26] <fta> what are your plans for sunday ?
[21:26] <[reed]> nothing so far... e-gandalf wants to hang out, but nothing besides that.
[21:27] <[reed]> would like to do some touring, though, since I've never been to Europe at all ;)
[21:27] <[reed]> or for that matter, the eastern hemisphere
[21:28] <[reed]> only been to Mexico and Honduras
[21:28] <[reed]> besides the U.S.
[21:29] <e-gandalf> stay strong
[21:29] <e-gandalf> it'll be kind of a shock ;)
[21:30] <[reed]> hehe
[21:38] <e-gandalf> [reed]: do you have an agenda for this year?
[21:39] <e-gandalf> are we going to have any specific talks on mozilla?
[21:39] <[reed]> e-gandalf: nope... asac might know, though
[21:39] <e-gandalf> asac: ping? :)
[21:40] <fta> [reed], i'll do some too, i've traveled a lot everywhere but i don't know prague at all and i hate to go somewhere and don't see anything.
[21:40] <[reed]> hehe
[21:41] <[reed]> sounds good, fta
[21:41] <fta> e-gandalf, [reed]: some ideas are there: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Ideas/Intrepid
[21:41] <fta> it's both ideas for UDS and the 6 months dev cycle
[21:42] <fta> and it's not limited to just that
[21:42] <fta> all ideas welcome
[21:43] <e-gandalf> fta: sure. but I'd like to get a full UDS agenda
[21:43] <e-gandalf> my goal is to reach Ubuntu community management
[21:43] <fta> oh, ok :)
[21:43] <e-gandalf> learn how Ubuntu manages communities
[21:43] <e-gandalf> etc
[21:43] <e-gandalf> potentially share our experience
[21:44] <fta> jcastro, ^^
[21:44] <e-gandalf> hm?
[21:44] <fta> he's the guy :)
[21:44] <e-gandalf> jcastro: ping
[21:58] <cwong1> asac: ping
[22:13] <asac> cwong1: yes
[22:13] <cwong1> asac: the latest xulrunner in ubuntu-ppa has the gconf patch, right?
[22:14] <asac> should be yes.
[22:14] <cwong1> asac: I am still having problem with accessing the https site
[22:14] <cwong1> asac: how do I debug this?
[22:14] <asac> cwong1: check that proxy is setup correctly
[22:15] <cwong1> asac: I double checked already.  If I built without the system xul, it works fine.
[22:16] <cwong1> asac: any idea how I can track this down?
[22:17] <asac> cwong1: so the proper value is set for the preferences in about:config ?
[22:17] <cwong1> asac: let me check ... just 1sec
[22:24] <ibkanat> who maintains the mozilla funambol plug-in? I need it in 64bit
[22:36] <Jazzva> I received today my first Firefox t-shirt and a cup :D. They're great (although, the FF logo is moved a bit to the right on the back of the shirt) :)
[22:38] <cwong1> asac: I look in about config and the proxy string is blank for some reason
[22:40] <cwong1> asac: The proxy setting is coming from xulrunner, right?
[22:41] <asac> cwong1: yes. it needs to be enabled
[22:41] <asac> its not enabled by default
[22:41] <asac> cwong1: will you upload an update to midbrowser?
[22:41] <asac> e.g. with this fixed pref?
[22:41] <cwong1> asac: sure,  what do i need?
[22:42] <asac> could you please add another intl.locale.matchOS
[22:42] <asac> that needs to be a grepref
[22:43] <cwong1> do I add pref("intl.locale.matchOS", true) to the midbrowser.js?
[22:43] <asac> yes
[22:43] <asac> that should work
[22:43] <asac> let me give you an .xpi
[22:45] <asac> cwong1: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/midbrowser/
[22:45] <asac> you need to install language-pack-gnome-zh
[22:45] <asac> (and -base)
[22:45] <asac> and then you can install those .xpi's
[22:45] <asac> when matchOS == true is properly configured in midbrowser it should start in chinese with export LANG=zh_CN
[22:45] <asac> or LANG=zh_TW
[22:46] <asac> would be great if you could upload that to PPA today or soe
[22:46] <asac> as i have to upload that language pack :/
[22:46] <cwong1> what's that got to do with the proxy setting?
[22:46] <asac> nothing ;)
[22:46] <asac> cwong1: its for tranlsations ... you have to add a pref to enable system_prefs
[22:47] <asac> config.use_system_prefs
[22:47] <cwong1> I did set config.use_system_prefs to true
[22:47] <asac> in profile?
[22:47] <cwong1> yes
[22:47] <asac> try global
[22:47] <cwong1> ok
[22:48] <cwong1> what is the full pref name for "global"?
[22:49] <cwong1> asac: ^^^^
[22:49] <asac> no .. i mean confiugre that at a global place ;)
[22:50] <asac> try /usr/lib/midbrowser/defaults/preferences/midbrowser.js
[22:50] <cwong1> ok
[22:51] <cwong1> asac: its in there already... I uploaded that change to ppa 2 days ago.
[22:52] <cwong1> asac: when I build in my local box I got a tar error saying: ./greprefs/system-greprefs.js: cannot stat
[22:52] <cwong1> asac: would that cause this problem?
[22:53] <asac> depends in what context that happens
[22:54] <cwong1> asac: it happens during the build near the end.  looks like tar is trying to do a stat on a file that is a symbolic link
[22:56] <asac> cwong1: ok. are you sure that the right gconf keys are used?
[22:56] <asac> do you have a gconf editor?
[22:56] <cwong1> asac: I will install gconfeditor and look.
[22:58] <cwong1> asac: btw the tar error happen when the build is doing this:
[22:58] <cwong1> /root/newmaster/objdir/config/nsinstall -D ../../dist/bin/xulrunner
[22:58] <cwong1> (cd /usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9b5/bin && tar -cvhf - .) | (cd ../../dist/bin/xulrunner && tar -xf -)
[22:58] <cwong1> ./
[22:58] <cwong1> ..........
[22:58] <cwong1> ./greprefs/
[22:58] <cwong1> tar: ./greprefs/system-greprefs.js: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
[22:59] <cwong1> asac: would this system-greprefs.js cause the proxy problem?
[23:00] <asac> is that in midbrowser? or xulrunner?
[23:00] <asac> ls  -l /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9b5/greprefs/
[23:00] <asac> what do you get?
[23:01] <cwong1> it has system-greprefs.js but it is a symlink to /etc/xulrunner-1.9/system-grepref.js
[23:01] <asac> nothing else in thereß
[23:01] <asac> ?
[23:02] <cwong1> It has all.js, security-prefs.js and xpinstall.js
[23:05] <cwong1> hmmm.... looks the system-greprefs.js has a few lines but all commented out.. so that shouldn't be the cause of the proxy problem...
[23:10] <asac> cwong1: sure you are running ppa version?
[23:10] <asac> of xul?
[23:10] <cwong1> asac: yes I am
[23:11] <cwong1> asac: the version is 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu4~8.04.0mt1
[23:11] <asac> yes, thats the wrong one :)
[23:12] <asac> apt-cache policy xulrunner-1.9
[23:12] <asac> i guess its not from ppa
[23:12] <asac> in fact this means that the ppa version should be updated no the new version in archive ... it fixes a critical performance issue
[23:13] <cwong1> here is what I get:
[23:13] <cwong1> xulrunner-1.9:
[23:13] <cwong1>   Installed: 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu4~8.04.0mt1
[23:13] <cwong1>   Candidate: 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu4~8.04.0mt1
[23:13] <cwong1>   Version table:
[23:13] <cwong1>  *** 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu4~8.04.0mt1 0
[23:13] <cwong1>         500 http://ports.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main Packages
[23:13] <cwong1>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[23:14] <cwong1>      1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3+ume804 0
[23:14] <cwong1>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net hardy/main Packages
[23:14] <cwong1>      1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 0
[23:14] <cwong1>         500 http://ports.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages
[23:14] <asac> yeah ... ppa version is ume804
[23:14] <asac> the one you have doesnt have that patch
[23:14] <asac> downgrade to test
[23:14] <asac> sudo apt-get install xulrunner-1.9=1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3+ume804 xulrunner-1.9-dev=1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3+ume804
[23:20] <cwong1> asac: that downgrade took care of the problem
[23:21] <cwong1> asac: how can I make sure image-creator pulls the right one when creating an image?
[23:22] <asac> cwong1: well ... let me see if the build gets past the gconf patch ... i can then upload an update
[23:23] <asac> ok appears to get applied
[23:23] <asac> let me wait for the build to finish maybe
[23:23] <cwong1> asac: ok, thanks for the help... and I will upload the localel patch to ppa today
[23:24] <cwong1> s/localel/locale/
[23:24] <cwong1> brb in few mins
[23:24] <asac> cwong1: wait a sec
[23:25] <asac> the matchOS setting is in midbrowser.js in midcontent/ but its not installed by the package
[23:25] <asac> in defaults/preferences
[23:25] <asac> what is used`
[23:25] <asac> ?
[23:25] <asac> there are three midbrowser.js files in the tree
[23:27] <asac> $ find | grep midbrowser.js
[23:27] <asac> ./browser/app/profile/midbrowser.js
[23:27] <asac> ./midcontent/midbrowser.js
[23:27] <asac> ./midbrowser/app/profile/midbrowser.js
[23:27] <asac> since when does midcontent/ exist?
[23:27] <asac> cwong1: ?
[23:31] <asac> cwong1: ok i found it
[23:31] <asac> the midbrowser package lacks the syspref link ;)
[23:31] <asac> so nothing in /etc/midbrowser/pref gets loaded
[23:31] <asac> cwong1: could you please add: sudo ln -s /etc/midbrowser/pref/ /usr/lib/midbrowser/defaults/syspref to the package?
[23:32] <asac> that should fix the matchOS
[23:32] <asac> and the defautl browser check most likely ;)
[23:32] <cwong1> asac:  sorry I am back
[23:32] <cwong1> asac: ok I will add a symlink to the package
[23:33] <asac> yeah ... in midbrowser.links
[23:33] <asac> or however you like
[23:33] <cwong1> asac: I will do that
[23:33] <asac> midbrowser should really use our firefox packaging ;)
[23:34] <cwong1> asac: agreed, but i am no debian expert :(
[23:34] <cwong1> asac: you want to volunteer..?  :)
[23:37] <asac> yeah ... you the expertise needed to make a new package is far higher than the requirements for forking the firefox package ;)
[23:37] <asac> anyway lets talk about that later
[23:44] <fta> is it just me or for the last few weeks, everything in planet maemo is rendered as html source code ?
[23:48] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/greader.png