/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/05/14/#ubuntu-mythtv.txt

swheatleyany long time ubuntu users know how often they add new kernel versions?02:28
swheatleystill trying to get my HVR-950 working and from what I've read it seems to work best with 2.6.2502:29
ddgoosehmm, mythmovies hard crashes frontend, I looked into it and seems that they moved the web service to a new url and mythvideo doesnt like the return.03:48
dsmith_hi05:50
dsmith_is there a hardware list for setting up a server to record shows?05:51
baalsgatewhy do cron jobs not work ???10:06
baalsgateI have things in my crontab but they never run10:07
baalsgatewhats wrong with ubuntu cron ?10:08
bogus-is your cron daemon running?10:20
bogus-do you have a <enter> behind your last cron entry?10:21
baalsgatei put in the crontab " 2 * * * * root /usr/bin/touch /tmp/testfile" and nothing is happening10:21
baalsgateps -ax | grep cron shows cron running10:21
bogus-did you place an enter behind that line?10:22
baalsgatebogus , i will try that10:23
baalsgate30 * * * * mythtv   /usr/bin/touch /tmp/testfile10:24
baalsgateshould give me a tmp/testfile in 30 mins ?10:25
baalsgateor only when the time is .... :3010:25
bogus-indeed iirc10:28
bogus-*/30 gives every 30 mins10:28
bogus-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron10:31
baalsgateits still not working10:35
baalsgatei put in "*/1 * * * *  /usr/bin/touch /tmp/testfile" to see if it would do it every min but nothing10:35
bogus-you editted with crontab -e?10:42
baalsgateyep10:43
bogus-sure you hit enter a few times after your line?10:46
baalsgateyep10:47
nuSharperhi there! how can i make MythTV's window behave like the windows of ordinary video players? i wanna be able to change MythTV's from fullscreen to normal (windowed with borders) with a double-click or keyboard shortcut. this way i'd be able to keep the window on the corner of my screen while browsing the web and quickly switch to fullscreen when solely watching TV.14:40
ddgoosenuSharper: are you using a remote?14:54
nuSharperno. just my kbd14:54
sardiskanhow do I get to the web interface of my mythbox14:55
nuSharperwhen watching a DivX video on MPlayer, i can switch in fullscreen or windowed mode witha double-click on the player... on MythTV i havent found a way.14:55
sardiskanMythTV is a full screen application. If you are running a video, it assumes you aren't doing anything else....nor can you.14:56
sardiskanif you wanted it windowed, you'd have to run the mythtv frontend windowed14:56
WcktKlwndoes anyone know why my audio went away after an upgrade last night?14:57
nuSharpersardiskan: i've changed the settings to a 400x300 window but then i can play fullscreen... so cant i switch between fullcreen and windowed on the fly?14:58
ddgooseYou dont need to use windowed, you can just to ctrl+alt+(left|right)arrow14:58
sardiskannevermind14:58
sardiskanI found the web interface14:59
ddgoosejust switch desktops to the next workspace14:59
ddgooselike I said above14:59
nuSharperddgoose: so without changing the setting of the GUI size, i can use the shortcut you mentioned and switch from FS to windowed?15:00
ddgoosedon't need to go out of windowed at all15:00
nuSharperddgoose: hmmm... wont that cause higher CPU usage?15:00
ddgooseit switches you to a clean desktop15:00
ddgooseI don't think so15:01
nuSharperlet me see if i understand you, i have to have MythTV open in both desktops?15:01
nuSharperi dont wanna lose sight of the TV...15:02
ddgoosedo'h I missed that part15:02
nuSharperi have be able to have it windowed or fullscreen depending on what is on...15:02
nuSharperi wanna be able*15:02
nuSharperi've tried to run my Hauppauge card via MPlayer but the playback in it is choppy... i do get the FS x Windowed switch via MPlayer, but i lose in pic quality. :-(15:03
sardiskanddgoose...in the mythweb interface....I'm getting an error when browsing to the Videos section15:07
sardiskanCould not create a symlink to /var/lib/mythtv/videos, the local MythVideo directory for this hostname (king-mythbox). Please create a symlink to your MythVideo directory at data/video in order to use the video portions of MythWeb.15:07
ddgoosesardiskan: gimme sec I have an answer for you15:08
sardiskanthx15:08
sardiskanthe symlink is in the /var/www/mythweb/data directory15:08
sardiskanlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   21 2008-05-12 16:12 video -> /var/lib/mythtv/video15:09
ddgooseyeah the symlink should point to videos not video15:11
sardiskanI'm not understanding15:12
sardiskanI have to create a symlink to EACH video manually?15:12
ddgoosenegative15:12
ddgooseif you look in /var/lib/mythtv do you see a directory called video?15:12
ddgooseyou should see a directory called "videos"15:13
ddgooseyou need to repoint the symlink15:13
sardiskancd d'oh15:13
sardiskanI see it now15:13
ddgooseso if you cd /var/www/mythweb/data/15:13
sardiskanhow do I report bugs?15:13
ddgoosethen remove the video symlink15:13
sardiskanoh nevermind15:14
ddgooseand relink it to /var/lib/mythtv/videos15:14
sardiskanI said "REPOINT" not "REPORT"15:14
sardiskanthx15:14
sardiskanso just recreate the symlink15:14
sardiskancool15:14
ddgooseyeah15:14
sardiskaneasy enough15:14
ddgoosenuSharper as far as I can tell there is no fullscreen toggle, someone with more knowledge on that may reply in here at some point.15:15
nuSharperok. i'll keep trying15:15
sardiskanok...now I can get to it...but I'm having some other PHP errors15:20
sardiskanwhen I click on videos in mythweb, I get 4 php errors15:20
sardiskanok, fixed it...permissions issue on the coverart file15:21
hugolphow can I export a mythtv recording?15:32
sardiskanjust use Samba and move it via windows15:33
sardiskanunder the "recordings" shared directory15:33
sardiskanassuming you did disable samba at install15:33
hugolpsardiskan:  no15:34
hugolpfirst I dont use windows15:34
hugolpsecond, I want to send the mpeg file to a friend15:34
sardiskanthen use NFS15:34
sardiskanNFS should also be running15:34
hugolpI have nfs, but I want to send a recording to a friend through email15:35
sabhainsardiskan, how's it going with that remote?  Any luck with the extra buttons?15:35
hugol1sorry, I hitted the quit button with the foot :-P15:38
hugol1so, how can I send a recording to a friend through email?15:40
sardiskanoh yes sabhain...I figured it out15:49
ddgoosewhat do you use for mail?15:49
sardiskanI haven't got ALL the buttons configured...but I know how to do it now...just a matter of making it happen15:49
sardiskanthx for all your help15:49
ddgoosehugol1: what do you use for mail?15:50
sardiskanhugolp....use NFS to grab the file you want...then just attach it to an email15:50
sardiskanor post it to youtube.15:50
sardiskanprivate15:50
ddgooseor you could use rapidshare and megaupload15:54
ddgooseor gmail I think does large files15:55
hugol1ddgoose:  gmail15:56
ddgooseor you could give them a ssh account and chroot them to your recording directory15:56
hugol1sardiskan:  I though mythtv used a weird video format15:56
hugol1but I see it doesnt15:56
hugol1thanks15:56
sardiskanno problem16:03
sabhainsardiskan, are you keeping the "includes" file and modifying the .mythtv one .. or did you blow away and replace the whole .lircrc?16:25
dispadertestsabhain: Are you trying to override things in the /etc/lirc/lircd.conf file?16:52
sabhaindispadertest, no .. just wondering how sardiskan handled the .lircrc thing.  Older configs have everything in the base file (~/.lircrc), but the 8.04 sets that file up with a bunch of includes .. just wondering which approach he took.16:55
sardiskanok, I just installed an ATI TV WONDER 550 card for capture and apparently, the system doesn't see it16:55
sardiskansabhain...I'm just modifying the .lirc/mythtv file16:55
dispadertestsabhain: Ah, yeah... sorry about that.  The ~/.lircrc with the little include statements.  I wound up adding a ~/.lirc/mythtv, which seemed to override quite nicely.16:59
ddgoosesardiskan do --> lsmod |grep bttv17:05
sardiskanhang no17:19
sardiskanon17:19
sardiskanI get nothing ddgoose17:19
ddgoosedo lspci -v17:22
ddgooseand paste the results at paste.ubuntu.com17:22
sardiskanok17:22
ddgoosepost the link here17:22
ddgoosethen do dmesg | grep -A 50 v4l2 driver17:25
ddgooseand paste it also17:25
ddgooseat paste.ubuntu.com17:25
sardiskanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/12080/17:26
ddgoosedo the lspci thing again with sudo and repaste sorry17:27
sardiskanok17:29
sardiskanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/12081/17:30
ddgoosek17:31
ddgoosedid you do the dmesg one ?17:35
sardiskanno17:35
ddgoosedo that one and paste it17:36
sardiskanjust sudo dmesg?17:37
ddgoosedmesg | grep -A 50 v4l2 driver17:39
sardiskanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/12082/17:39
sardiskanoh wait17:39
sardiskanis that 412 (four one two)17:40
sardiskanand does the search string need to be in quotes?17:40
sardiskan"v4l2 driver"17:40
ddgooseL17:40
sardiskanok17:41
ddgoosevideo4linux17:41
momelodgreetings channel17:41
ddgoosebut I don't see it in here anyways so it will return nothing I suspect17:41
sardiskanthat doesn't give anything17:41
sardiskaner...returns no results17:42
momelodi upgraded my mythbuntu box to 8.04 last night and now i cant start X17:42
momelodthe nvidia-glx-legacy drivers wont install17:42
momelodanyone else have this issue?17:42
ddgoosesardiskan do --> sudo modprobe bttv17:43
ddgooseand paste output to you know where17:43
momelodNo candidate version found for nvidia-glx-legacy17:43
momelodwtf does that mean :)17:44
sardiskanno results on that17:44
ddgooseok do --> lsmod |grep bttv17:45
ddgooseany results ?17:45
sardiskanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/12085/17:46
ddgoosek now do this one again -> sudo dmesg | grep -A 50 v4l2 driver17:47
ddgooseany results this time?17:47
sardiskanno results17:47
sardiskanI'm putting the "v4l2 driver" in quotes like this17:48
ddgooseno quotes, but try this sudo dmesg | grep -A 50 v4l217:48
sardiskanno results again17:49
ddgoosek17:49
ddgooseI have to run to bank and stuff real quick like, about an hour or so, then I can take a closer look for you17:49
ddgoosek?17:49
sardiskancool17:49
sardiskanthx17:49
ddgooseprobaly your cards id is not in the driver yet17:49
ddgoosebleh17:50
ddgoosecan't type in the morning heh17:50
sardiskank17:50
ddgoosethats the 550 theatre pci right?17:50
sardiskanyes17:51
ddgoosek17:51
sardiskanthat's what it lists as17:51
ddgooseI will be back soonish17:51
sardiskanin the lspci17:51
sardiskancalled a TV WONDER 55017:52
sardiskanon the box17:52
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dispadertestIs anybody heard of a case where one would get "Unable to initialize video." after a system has been running for a few minutes.17:57
SolarbabyI just installed Mythbuntu 8.04 and im seeing that lirc isn't starting up19:03
Solarbabysuperm1: You've been a great help to me last time I had lirc issues.. I hope your around19:05
lagagrr, i wish the openssl vulnerability was linked from ubuntu.com19:06
laga(from the front page)19:07
SolarbabyMaybe lirc was broken in the Mythbuntu install cd?19:21
SolarbabyIts too quiet in here for me..  I'm off to go get some lunch19:27
Solarbabyseeya all later19:28
sabhainanyone know if software Raid(1) works with XFS file systems?19:35
tgm4883_laptopsabhain, I don't see why it wouldn't19:36
sabhaingetting some weird behavior .. I can create the raid array using mdadm .. but when I try and mount it, I get a "bad superblock" error.19:38
sabhainI have 2 setup .. one is ext3 and the other xfs .. the ext3 works ok .. xfs is the problem child19:38
sabhaintrying a redo on the partitions & formats now19:39
sabhaintgm4883_laptop .. should I format after the array is assembled, or before?19:40
tgm4883_laptopit's been a while since I set it up.  I believe you have to do it after19:41
sabhainthat was it .. stupid gparted .. I should know better than to use that.19:51
sabhaincreated the raid arrays .. then mkfs'd em .. now things seem pretty good.  500GB raid1 video partition up and running19:51
rockhoundhi everyone20:05
rockhounddo I need to specify hwac3 or hwdts in the video player command with mplayer?20:09
sardiskanddgoose...are you back yet?20:37
=== ddgoose-AFK is now known as ddgoose
ddgoosewhy yes, yes I am :P20:37
ddgoosejust rolled in the door20:38
ddgoosehave any luck searching around?20:38
sardiskannone20:47
sardiskanI was going to try a fresh install w/ the card in place to see if that fixes it.20:47
sardiskanbut I haven't done it yet20:47
ddgoosewell I did a little research and am getting conflicting information, on the one hand, mythtv is saying tv wonder works, but all-in-wonder does not, and on the other hand, v4l wiki is saying it does not work..20:50
ddgooseso I will have to do more digging20:50
sardiskanwell I don't have all-in-wonder...I have just the tv wonder20:51
tgm4883_laptopddgoose, sardiskan, have you tried asking in #mythtv-users they might actually have someone that uses that card20:51
tgm4883_laptopthat or check the hardware list to see if anyone there uses it in ubuntu20:52
sardiskanI already check the hardware list at http://pvrhw.goldfish.org/tiki-page.php?pageName=pvrhw_tuners20:53
sardiskanTV Wonder is the top used tuner20:53
tgm4883_laptopsardiskan, that list is very outdated20:57
tgm4883_laptopAFAIK, no longer maintained20:57
sardiskancrap21:02
sardiskandamnit and I just bought this card...this is my SECOND freaking tuner card I've tried21:02
sardiskanI can't get it right21:02
tgm4883_laptopwhats the other card?21:06
sardiskanits a AVerMedia A18021:08
tgm4883_laptophmm21:08
sardiskanthat card worked in my system...but it wasn't for cable TV21:08
tgm4883_laptopdid you happen to check this page http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Tuner_Card#Cards_that_work21:08
sardiskanor soemthing21:08
sardiskanyou see...it says the TV Wonder works21:09
tgm4883_laptopyou just bought that card?21:10
tgm4883_laptophow much?21:10
tgm4883_laptopi'd take it back and get something with a hardware encoder21:10
tgm4883_laptoplike a pvr-15021:10
sardiskanother than being discontinued...the TV Wonder 550 should work21:11
sardiskanwell...this one HAS mpeg encoding on it21:11
tgm4883_laptopah21:12
tgm4883_laptopwhich driver does it use?21:13
sardiskanbttv I think21:15
tgm4883_laptopsardiskan, error messages?21:17
sabhainyeah .. you want a pvr-150 or 50021:20
sardiskannope...no messages21:23
ddgooseThe tv wonder 550 is a great card for windows it turns out, but that's not why we are all sitting in here21:23
ddgooseit's too bad you can't just intall the windows driver with some sorta wrapper and have it just work.21:25
laga"have it just work" doesn't sound like "let's insert windows binary blobs into our linux kernel" to me ;)21:25
lagait#s too bad that manufacturers won't release specs or pay someone to write free drivers.21:26
ddgooseyeah that to21:26
sardiskanoh well...newegg is so natzi about returns too21:27
sardiskanalways wanting to charge restock fees....AND you loose your shipping costs21:27
sardiskanGAH21:27
sardiskanwill the Hauppage PVR-150 work out of the box with mpeg encoding?21:27
sabhainsardiskan .. curious here about how much newegg charged .. and are you using this in a dual boot scenario?21:27
sardiskanno21:28
sardiskanthe tvwonder was $4021:28
sardiskan$50 I mean21:28
sardiskanthe PVR-150 is going to run me $6021:28
tgm4883_laptopwhat drivers have you tried loading for it?21:29
tgm4883_laptopand what steps have you tried troubleshooting it?21:29
tgm4883_laptopand yes, the PVR-150 works OOB21:29
sabhainoh .. ok.  PVR-150 will work right out of the box if you end up going that way .. same with 500 (2 tuners)21:29
ddgoosei just happen to have the pvr-150 so there was no hassle, but I feel for the people who convert to linux and get stuck with having a great windows card that won't work in linux21:29
* sabhain has forgotten how frustrating that can be.21:30
ddgooseI also have this little mid quality emuzed usb that I wish worked with linux, but not gonna happen21:30
lagaemuzed?21:31
ddgooseit has onboard mpeg2 it would have been nice for recording low quility archival type stuff21:31
ddgooseyeah they are owned by luminate now21:31
lagaah21:31
ddgooseI use it to record PBS on a 'doze box21:32
tgm4883_laptopsardiskan, just out of curiousity, what does lspci respond with?21:33
ddgoosehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/12081/21:33
ddgoosethat21:33
tgm4883_laptopso it says the device is unknown21:34
tgm4883_laptopok21:34
tgm4883_laptophave you tried21:34
ddgoosedon't get me wrong laga, I am not advocating tainting the kernel with windows code ;)21:34
laga;)21:35
ddgooseI did some research on it tgm and it has rage audio and stuff so it most likely 'fully' work21:35
ddgoosehigh chance of not getting audio to work21:35
ddgoose*will not*21:36
ddgoosesorry21:36
ddgoosetyping to fast21:36
lagai'm currently pushing a new -fixes build to the weekly fixes repository, for those who are interested. it should be ready in a few hours.21:36
ddgoosesweet21:36
sabhainwhat about the update of pci devices list?  I had that issue before where realtek wasn't found, but some update pci database command solved it.21:36
lagai wish the weekly builds would live up to their name (automagically ;))21:36
tgm4883_laptopsudo modprobe cx88xx21:37
tgm4883_laptoplaga, they do for me21:37
tgm4883_laptopif my automagically, you mean by laga21:37
tgm4883_laptopand if by weekly, you mean monthly21:37
* laga stabs tgm4883_laptop with a rusty spork21:38
tgm4883_laptopsardiskan, do sudo modprobe cx88xx then do lspci -v again21:38
tgm4883_laptopmmm rust21:38
ddgooseoh yeah, mythmovies is aborken, they moved the webservice url that ignyte uses.21:42
ddgoosedumps you right to the desktop21:43
lagawoohoo. ;)21:44
* rhpot1991 stabs tgm4883_laptop too21:46
lagayay21:46
tgm4883_laptop:(21:48
sardiskanI"m just sending the card back and getting a pvr-15022:05
sardiskanscrew it22:06
sardiskanI"ve already lost $20 in shipping costs so far22:06
sardiskandangit22:06
laga!seen ille22:10
lagagah22:10
lagawhere's the darn bot22:10
tgm4883_laptopthe bot is dead22:11
tgm4883_laptopyou killed it22:11
tgm4883_laptopthat was odd22:11
tgm4883_laptopI hit some key combination that closed just this channel22:12
lagai got a voodoo doll that controls your irc client.22:12
tgm4883_laptop!seen ubotu22:12
rhpot1991its been dead for some time22:12
lagatoo bad22:13
ddgooseok I recompiled my ignyte with an added arg --server22:22
Ward1983is it possible to tuurn xv off in mythtv?22:32
Ward1983i get funky colors with xv on, so i want to switch it off22:32
Ward1983(doe pwoplw who dont know what i mean i want to change the output driver)22:33
Ward1983i tested it with totem which also had funky colors but they disappeared as soon as i switched xv off22:34
tgm4883_laptopso you odrwn rypw qirh dinfwea on rhw qeonf kwya?22:34
tgm4883_laptopno, dont know how sorry22:34
MythbuntuGuest90hello all22:46
=== MythbuntuGuest90 is now known as Cursor
tgm4883_laptophi22:46
=== Cursor is now known as MythRookie
MythRookiequestion about installing Mythbuntu, anyone got a minute?22:47
MythRookiespecific to LVM22:47
tgm4883_laptopMythRookie, only if you ask it22:47
MythRookieMythDora gives me the option of using all 3 of my 500GB disks as a single 1.5TB logical volume.22:47
tgm4883_laptopk22:48
MythRookieMythDora kinda sucks, so I'm trying to do the LVM setup in Mythbuntu22:48
MythRookiebut it only lets me set up a single disk during install22:48
MythRookiei'd like to install across all 3 disks if possible22:48
MythRookieif not LVM, maybe software RAID?22:48
tgm4883_laptopMythRookie, i'm not entirely sure why you prefer LVM over say, storage groups, but here you go http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58447322:50
MythRookiestorage groups eh?22:50
tgm4883_laptopcurrently they are for recordings only22:51
MythRookieso maybe I install Mythbuntu on an 80GB disk and set up a storage group across the 3 independent 500GB disks?22:51
tgm4883_laptopthat would work22:51
MythRookieand if one disk dies, i don't lose all of my recordings?22:51
tgm4883_laptopIIRC, you would lose 1/322:52
MythRookieonly the recordings on that disk at that time22:52
MythRookieok, thanks for the head's up22:52
tgm4883_laptopyes22:52
tgm4883_laptopit's new in MythTV .2122:53
MythRookieand Mythbuntu 8.04 has the right version of MythTV?22:53
tgm4883_laptopMythTV .22 is supposed to also include storage groups for music and movies22:53
tgm4883_laptopyes22:53
MythRookie(suppose i could check that myself too)22:53
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntu 8.04 has Mythtv .2122:53
MythRookiethanks again22:54
tgm4883_laptopno prob22:54
MythRookiei might be back later leeching answers about the diskless setup for the frontend22:55
MythRookielol22:55
tgm4883_laptopMythRookie, sounds good22:56
tgm4883_laptopbe sure to bug laga about that ;)22:56
MythRookiecheers!22:56
Ward1983tgm4883_laptop, was i not clear about my problem? or were you just joking?22:57
Ward1983tgm4883_laptop, (i'm not native english, its hard for me to explain myself sometimes)22:58
tgm4883_laptopI was joking, because the first 2 words were messed up cause you had your left hand shifted to the left one key22:58
tgm4883_laptopyour question does make sense though22:59
tgm4883_laptopI just don't have an answer for you :(22:59
Ward1983tgm4883_laptop, i didn't notice that lol, i recently changed keyboards and even keyboard layouts so its still a bit confusing sometimes22:59
ddgooseswitching xv off will make things slower won't it?23:00
Ward1983(got a G15 keyboard with my new second hand PC :) )23:00
Ward1983ddgoose, that doesnt mather much, an update caused this so it'll most probably get fixed and then ill change it again23:00
Ward1983its just for temporary23:00
Ward1983ddgoose, and i tested it it played nice and smooth :)23:01
Ward1983with totem23:01
ddgoosecool23:01
Ward1983ddgoose, do you know how i can switch it off in myhtv?23:01
ddgoosefor tv or videos?23:02
ddgoosefor videos change the mplayer live from -vo xv to -vo x1123:02
ddgoosenot sure on the tv part23:02
ddgooseline*23:03
Ward1983ddgoose, for videos, but its also possible the chroma format is wrong23:05
Ward1983ddgoose, more likely even23:06
Ward1983it looks really odd, everything got the wrong colors23:06
Ward1983ffs lol does nobody know23:12
TelnetMantacan anyone tell me how to fix my display from a alt terminal in mythbuntu?23:14
TelnetMantadpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesnt work for some reason23:14
Ward1983ddgoose, i found it :) its under manage23:29
Ward1983owrking fine now23:29
Solarbabysuperm1: are you around?23:59

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