=== tuna-fish is now known as tuna [00:05] an 'apt-cache search' for pthread-stubs.pc tells me libpthread-stubs0-dev is where to find the config file... it's installed, but a package I'm compiling can't find it - ideas? [00:16] going to find something to chew on - later! [00:17] hi again, can a swap partiton be physically damaged, and if so, is there a way to check/repair it? [00:22] hello? [00:25] Hello,I've just performed a distro upgrade to xubuntu 8.04 via Web. I'm using Turkish locale. For I upgrade via Web, almost all my settings are as they were and I didn't have a problem. But today I added a new user and when I switch to that user's desktop what I see is the main Xfce menu of the new user is empty. No applications, nothing. Just "help", "about xfce" and "quit" buttons. On the... [00:25] ...panel there are Firefox button, "places" button and quit button apart from main Xfce menu but -as I say- it is empty. Any idea? [00:26] Oh yippee. Xubuntu has no forums and an IRC channel with nobody home. is there ANY reason not to go back to VectorLinux [00:27] @lars_ Hello Lars_ [00:31] about the missing aps I don't know, maybe check your your privileges for that new user [00:33] I can reach the applications for that user via alt-F2 [00:34] there is indeed no official forum for xubuntu, though afaik the same applies for other ubuntu flavors, since the ubuntu forums do the trick in most cases [00:34] bah he left [00:36] do you have the Applications button? [00:37] No. [00:37] right click on top panel, "add item" > Xfce Menu [00:37] lar_ sounds like he's having an identity crisis, haha. [00:37] lars_* [00:38] I did it. I have Xfce menu but.... [00:38] just "about" and "quit" buttons under it! Interesting. [00:40] if you start Thunar and check for a .config folder (hidden by default) is there anything in there [00:42] Hmmm. googd idea . Do you remember the exact route for .config? Do you mean xog.config or something else? [00:42] * xorg.config [00:43] it's in your /home// directory [00:43] ok,i am checking it. Thanks. [00:47] There are 3 directories under it. [00:47] konuk@marenostrum:~/.config$ ls [00:47] mousepad Thunar xfce4 [00:48] xfce4 then [00:48] going in it [00:49] There are 4 directories under it: [00:49] konuk@marenostrum:~/.config/xfce4$ ls [00:49] desktop mcs_settings panel xfwm4 [00:50] desktop [00:50] going under it. [00:51] There are 2 things: [00:51] konuk@marenostrum:~/.config/xfce4/desktop$ ls [00:51] icons.screen0.rc menu.xml [00:52] menu.xml (right click, Mousepad) [00:55] Here it is: [00:55] [00:55] [00:55] [00:55] [00:55] [00:55] [00:55] wait [00:55] use the pastebin please :P [00:56] those Turkish words mean: Kilavuz= something like about,Xfce hakkında= About Xfce, Çık= Quit [00:56] Those 3 are what I see under main menu. But no applications, system etc. [00:56] yup [00:57] sorry, I thik I have to learn about pastebin. [00:57] np, http://pastebin.com [00:57] paste our content there [00:57] your* [00:57] Sorryagain and thank you. I will learn. [00:58] your menu.xml is missing the important parts though [00:58] rename it to menu.old, log out and then log back in [00:59] that might solve your problem [00:59] if not I'll give you the lines to add in your menu file [01:00] Thank you. By the way,should I do like this? [01:00] http://pastebin.com/m42013351 [01:01] ??winmodem [01:01] ooh, I should regenerate my ssh keys? [01:01] !winmodem [01:01] You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto [01:01] awesome :) can you please try to rename that file and log out/in first? [01:02] ok. thanks. [01:29] hi room [01:39] hello [01:41] hello my friend [01:44] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=477454 [01:44] Debian bug 477454 in quodlibet "Insulting source code" [Serious,Open] [01:51] @PsynoKhi0: Hi again. That doesn't work. After I changed the name from menu.xml to menu.old; nothing changed with regard to the newuser and what's moru Xfce couldn't open my default user sessin; it suspended at the auto start stage of opening session. So I changed the new user's file to the original and I can log in my default user's sesion as well. By the way I copied the default (main)... [01:51] ...user's menu.xml file. I can replace it with the new user's if you advice so. [01:53] Deniz_Ogut: ah, dang... well your menu.xml was missing a few lines, hang on [01:55] By the way: menu.xml of the main user has almost no similarity with the new user's. I have both at hand now. I can replace the newuser's menu.xml either with the one you maybe will be sending to me or with the main user's menu.xml. [01:57] Deniz_Ogut: http://pastebin.com/m11636034 the lines that were in my menu.xml file but not yours are highlighted, though you would have to check the 'name="" ' to fit your locale settings [01:59] Thank you verymuch. What can you sayabout the idea to replace it with my main users menu.xml. Main users session has no problem. [01:59] could be the easiest [01:59] Thank you very much for taking your time. [02:00] Thank's a lot. [02:01] np :) [02:01] were you missing the icons on the desktop too? [02:02] No icons are there. [02:02] ok [02:11] http://youtube.com/user/xomagick < HELP , I cant get this page to show up [02:12] I just installed java plugin, and I have flash 9 installed of course..what else am I missing ;))) [02:12] can you open other flash pages? [02:12] ok THIS is odd [02:13] I just installed java plugin and now flash site wont work LOL [02:13] good lord ;00 [02:13] did you download it from their site? [02:13] I was able to view startrek.com just fine..now it says I dont have flash [02:13] no [02:13] from repo [02:13] but as I say startrek.com was working fine... [02:13] flashplugin-nonfree? [02:13] correct [02:14] is firefox 3 a bit buggy maybe ? [02:14] heh [02:14] lol [02:14] could be, gave up on it for now [02:14] ive heard various ..ahem comments about it ;) [02:14] I think thats a good idea. [02:14] grabbing 2 [02:15] hello, I got a question about a network issue with my belkin 7010 PC card (broadcom chipset). the b43 driver from linuxwireless.org is installed an everything, but wifi-radar wont recognize the card, is running on eth0 instead, and network manager cant be started. i'm a relative noob, so i'd appreciate any help. thank you! [02:16] FF3 was eating all my cpu cycles for no apparent reasons after a few minutes [02:17] ouch [02:18] ok..I have a suggestion [02:18] kingair_six: can't be of any help myself, complete wireless illiterate sorry [02:18] rip ff3 OUT of xubntu at once..its clearlly NOT stable. [02:18] all this talk of menu.xml reminds me that I still haven't figured out a straight-forward way to drag an icon from the menu to the panel... can someone point me to some instructions on how to do this? [02:18] I removed it, and installed firefox2, and my flash sites aer working just great... [02:18] well FF3 is a beta [02:18] then why was it included for petes sake. [02:19] linux isn't beta software..I dont get it ;) [02:19] Fedora 9 was released today and they include FF3 beta 2 also [02:19] thinkmassive: indeed, and as such has nothing to do in an LTS distro imo [02:19] probably just to "compete" with ubuntu [02:19] they were equally stupid. [02:19] PsynoKhi0: good point [02:19] agreed...and its just stilly [02:19] lol silly ;) [02:19] FF is getting bloated [02:19] anyway..its just annoying to be frustrated by obvious simple things to avoid ;) [02:19] thinkmassive, yeah true [02:20] using opera for the most part... [02:20] so... is there an easy way to place a shortcut on the panel from the xfce menu? [02:20] I thought I used to be able to right-click and select "add launcher to panel" [02:20] PsynoKhi0, hmm how do you like opera compared to ff then... [02:20] thinkmassive, oh yes easily [02:21] thinkmassive, right click bar and choose add item [02:21] then the first 'item' on dialogue that comes up, is what you want [02:21] thinkmassive, launcher < [02:21] neighborlee: I've been using opera since 2001 or so... kinda biased towards it :P [02:21] hmm yeah, but how do I get the same icon as in the menu? [02:21] PsynoKhi0, ahhh yes ,,,one friend uses it alot so ;) [02:22] thinkmassive, but thats a main menu icon, why would you want that [02:22] thinkmassive, if you do, I am not sure where it is other than /usr/share/pixmaps [02:22] oh sorry, I meant the icon from the application [02:22] thinkmassive, first you could give it a try with the same name for the icon as the app name [02:22] as an example, say I want to add Pidgin to my panel [02:23] I just thought maybe there was a direct method I was missing, but maybe that was from an old ubuntu install before I discovered the beauty of xfce [02:23] thanks anyway :) [02:24] brb [02:28] thinkmassive: name "Pidgin" icon "pidgin-menu" executable "pidgin" [02:29] or choose another icon from /usr/share/pixmaps [02:31] ooh I see, so any apps that have a menu entry probably have an icon in the pixmaps dir [02:32] much appreciated, thank you! [02:36] somebody told me that debian running with xfce would actually run faster than xubuntu - any opinions? [02:36] I've never touched debian mysefl [02:36] thinkmassive: n [02:37] np* [02:37] BigBur: me neither :) [02:37] I used to use debian but *ubuntu has a much larger community [02:37] you can create the same system starting from either base [02:38] nite [03:55] my house is about to flood [03:55] methinks [03:55] not that anyone really cares, but I felt like sharing [04:01] Is there anyone in charge df xubuntu bugs who can give some time to me? I want to ask something about an important bug before reporting it. [04:10] for the record, i have a ibook g4 a1054 and xubuntu 8 and 7 would not boot while 6 did (8 alternative installed but would not boot) [04:16] hi [04:17] from time to time the clipboard starts acting weird [04:17] if I try to copy and paste, I always get this: [04:17] ŸŸ [04:17] is there anyway to reset it from the command line? 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[06:04] ubottu iptables [06:04] ubottu iptables [06:04] ubottu iptables [06:04] ubottu iptables [06:04] ubottu iptables [06:04] ubottu iptables [06:04] ubottu iptables [06:04] ubottu iptables [06:04] ubottu iptables [06:04] ubottu iptables [06:04] ubottu iptables [06:04] ubottu iptables [06:04] ubottu iptables [06:04] ubottu iptables [06:04] ubottu iptables [06:04] ubottu iptables [06:04] aww fuck [07:04] hello [07:04] i just got my fluxbuntu install on my 400mhz 256 mb ram carputer and im not happy, what package do i need to install in order for me to try out xfce? [07:06] surgy: xubuntu-desktop [07:06] does xfce run faster than fluxbox? [07:07] surgy: there's not much diff but flux is a bit quicker [07:07] but flux sucks [07:07] this comp should be running pretty quick with my setup and its not [07:07] surgy: I use it and find it ok... - what trouble do you have? [07:08] im having all kinds of trouble with acpi [07:08] opening firefox blows, videos are choppy......... [07:09] i mean with windows 2000 and all unnessisary services killed, it was pretty smooth [07:09] /join #php [07:09] me? [07:10] surgy: have you installed you vid card drivers - that might be the vvid issue? [07:10] is it the same process as kubuntu? [07:11] surgy: it should be sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in a terminal [07:11] im talking about everything is slow, i was expecting it to be at least decently quick at web browsing [07:11] but with fluxbuntu who knows [07:12] how can i tell what terminal app is used by the one in my Accessories window? cos its clearly not xterm [07:12] surgy: I read a while ago that fluxbuntu had some issues with hardware detection - tried asking in #fluxbuntu? [07:13] t3hwiz0rd: it's xfce4-terminal, you can read it in the help->about dialog [07:13] yeah that channel is pretty dead most of the time [07:13] ahhh [07:13] t3hwiz0rd: using xubuntu? - it is xfce4-terminal [07:13] ere4si: yeah, im using kubuntu with xfce on it [07:13] now, how do i set it up to start with blank sessions only [07:14] blank sessions? [07:14] t3hwiz0rd: using xfce or xubuntu-desktop? [07:14] ]like new sessions [07:15] right now it restores my session [07:15] i dont want that [07:17] t3hwiz0rd: just close everything and check the 'save my session' checkbox when logging out, then uncheck it the next time [07:17] theres no way to just start new sessions?? lol [07:17] you can also delete everything from the ~/.cache/sessions directory [07:18] xfce's sessions are kind of nonfunctional :/ [07:19] i mean i know its quick on its logins [07:19] and signifcantly lighter on loads than kde was [07:22] okay one last question [07:22] where do i put icon themes? [07:23] t3hwiz0rd: ~/.icons [07:23] odd, no such folder [07:24] t3hwiz0rd: you can make it [09:20] where are the settings for things like screensaver and power management saved? [09:57] rawr [09:58] xubuntu is giving me aq few buggies [10:15] where are the settings for things like screensaver and power management saved? === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [12:46] hello [12:47] how do the security work in xubuntu? how is it verified that packages downloaded with synaptic or other packagemanager is not hacked by a man-in-the-middle attack? [12:48] zoobox: through a ssl key [12:49] zoobox: you can see what keys you have installed in system->package sources [12:51] TheSheep: aha. those two.. 437D05B5 and FBB75451 ? [12:53] yes [12:57] but if somethings, say some advanced evil backdoorimplementing program that accesses the ext3-partition when I run WinXP last time, modifies those (and/or other things in ubuntu) then I can't really know... right? [12:59] zoobox, no pc is a 100% safe [13:00] zoobox: you can verify them every time after you run malicious backdoorimplementing programs [13:00] TheSheep, lol [13:00] zoobox: but if you want security, run windows in a virtual machine [13:01] zoobox: btw, if the program has free access to your drive, it can do much worse things than modifying the keys [13:04] hmm... [13:06] yeah I guess so. since I do run multiple operating systems that can write to my linux partitions . [13:08] but even without those, I bet that some motivated hacker that wants to translate my linux-installation to a spambot or something probably can fool me to enter my sudo password when I should not :-) [13:21] yeah, there are insecure spots at the edges [13:21] it's always at the connection [13:21] between the human and the machine or between two machines (or two operating systems) [13:26] Today i was at uni and network manager authed to the wireless network, got an ip/dns/default route but i was unable to access the internet or the intranet. I couldnt even ping the dns/default route, what could of caused this? [14:17] Hello. I added successfully my Epson Stylus C84 printer to Xubuntu. I see it, but I can't print anything. Jobs get submitted and marked as completed but the printer doesn't do anything. [14:17] The same printer works fine from Windows 2000 [14:31] have a question about Xubuntu [14:32] I currently use ubuntu, if I install Xubuntu will my install of Ubuntu slow down Xubuntu? [14:32] I am looking for a lightweight GUI XFCE I think will do this [14:33] yotux: no, you will just be able to choose which desktop environment you want to use at login time, and the corresponding libraries will be loaded. [14:34] ok so I am understaning that the libs from Gnome are loaded after boot [14:34] I have used KDE & Gnome [14:35] so I know what you are talking about when you say choose X window manager [14:49] Both Gnome & Xfce use GTK+ as the toolkit, so some libraries will be shared. I like better Xfce, it seems faster, but I also like the way it looks. [14:49] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments [15:03] I added successfully my Epson Stylus C84 printer to Xubuntu. I see it, but I can't print anything. Jobs get submitted and marked as completed but the printer doesn't do anything. [15:03] The same printer works fine from Windows 2000 [15:15] Success. Uninstalled it and reinstalled it [15:18] hi, should i do anything to turn a 8.04 beta installation into a 8.04 final beside normal updates? [15:19] my browser still firefox 3b5 :\ [15:21] mnemoc, there is no final firefox 3 yet [15:22] so it will stay 3b5 until that comes out and is packaged etc [15:22] ablomen: ah, ok... i thought it was old as the google toolbar refused to install [15:22] nah a lot of extentions dont work yet [15:23] the only ones that i got to work where from the ubuntu repo's [15:23] (tools->addons->get ubuntu extentions) [15:23] thanks :) [15:23] np :) [15:28] xubuntu wont put my monitor to sleep :-\ [16:58] Hi, I'm hoping someone can help me. I am using Xubuntu on a Sony Laptop. Gutsy worked fine, Hardy is having an issue with the scroll wheel on my trackpad. If I scroll up or down, it just keeps scrolling. It will switch my desktops, scroll through tabs, etc etc. The only reference I have found to this problem is the comment here: http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/?p=533#comment-118007 Does anyone have any ideas? [16:58] I booted on to the gutsy live cd and it doesn't do it, but it does on hardy. [17:05] does xfce not have an autoprompt for hardware? like usb drives? [17:09] t3hwiz0rd: assuming a standard install and your usb + drive + filesystem on the drive is supported. then xubuntu should automatically mount your usb drive when you insert it [17:10] does anyone have any ideas? [17:11] kabam: hi [17:11] kabam: you could reconfigure xorg and set your mouse to a generic two button mouse [17:12] hi gadklly [17:12] zoredache, I'd much rather get it working properly [17:12] kabam: since you are not the only one with this problem it is unlikely that it is hardware, particularly since you say it is fine in gutsy [17:13] kabam: did you check whether there is a bug filed about it on launchpad? [17:13] Launchpad? [17:13] !launchpad [17:13] Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/ [17:17] none that I can find about this specific issue [17:47] kabam: please consider filing a bug of your own [18:02] I'm trying to....I think I'll have it up in a few minutes. I have to keep restarting to stop it from scrolling :) I am hoping you would have a look at it to make sure it looks ok? [18:05] Hello; is there anybody using Xubuntu 8.04/Turkish locale? I want to discuss a problem briefly. [18:32] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-mouse/+bug/230391 Does this look ok; is there any other information I should provide? [18:32] Launchpad bug 230391 in xserver-xorg-input-mouse "Scroll Wheel does not stop scrolling" [Undecided,New] [18:42] How do you get an instant screenshot by a shortcut key? [19:00] Can you do it by xwd? [19:31] hy.. i am using xubuntu but i want to use fluxbox... i made according .xinitrc file to use with startx, but this way NetworkManager does not work.. neither the authentication needed for network-admin and users-admin [19:31] can anyone help what i want to change [19:31] -want +have [19:48] re [19:48] When does NetworkManager start? durning the booting/login process? [19:48] and the apparmor? [19:55] I believe net start is on of the autostarted applications look in the applications settings menu [19:55] only nm-applet starts then [19:55] my problem is that i waant to use fluxbox insteaad [19:56] but apparmor and NetworkManager does not start.. [19:58] so i have no Network Manager.. nor Network-admin [19:58] brb [20:39] hi [20:40] i have problems installing beryl on xubuntu can any one help me? [20:55] !compiz [20:55] Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion [20:58] Why I can not use Alt+SysRq as a shortcut key in Xfce? [21:05] jarnos: becouse ubuntu kernel uses it as a magic key sequence for directly contrllng kernel [21:06] jarnos: switch to text mode for a moment and try pressing alt+sysrq+tab [21:07] TheSheep: Why would I try it? [21:08] TheSheep: Anyway there should be some kind of notification about it in Keyboard preferences. [21:08] jarnos: to see what you can do with it [21:08] !bugs | jarnos [21:08] jarnos: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [21:09] jarnos: but there is no way to check it, and you can compile your own kernel... [21:10] TheSheep: Is there some documentation about that key magic controlling kernel? [21:10] jarnos: sure, google should know it [21:11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [21:27] how can you change the source list? [21:31] greets all === platyhelminth is now known as bill_gates [21:31] can someone help me with Cron? [21:32] i'm trying to set up my computer as an alarm clock, starting VLC playing a streamed radio, but somehow it won't work. [21:32] cron that is [21:34] i even seem to get everything right with crontab, yet at the give time i get nothing. [21:35] ookay. i try another channel then. [21:36] slider2800: I think there is a panel plugin that does that [21:36] panel plugin? [21:36] hmm. [21:36] never checked that [21:36] slider2800: the problem with vlc might be that it needs to be started in X [21:37] i even tried with running a bash script that starts vlc and some other things [21:37] but nothing seem to work [21:38] also something like this : 0 6 * * * notify-send -u normal -i gtk-info -t 600000 "ALARM CLOCK ENGAGED" "Good morning." [21:39] the command works perfectly from command line/terminal [21:39] but nothing i enter into crontab seems to have an effect. [21:39] i even restarted cron === volkodav__ is now known as Volkodav [21:41] ah, nevermind. i stick to my phone's alarm then :P [21:41] good night folks [22:12] hey all [22:12] ubottu xfce [22:12] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. 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[23:03] wait, what has xfce to do with kubuntu and ubuntu? :) [23:04] >.> i meant Xubuntu [23:04] sorry >.< [23:04] ah, sorry, late here [23:04] well, the problem is that Nautilus is getting started and then it takes over the desktop, because that's what nautilus normally does [23:05] but why it gets started -- I'm not sure [23:05] you might check if you don't have it associated with .exe files for example [23:05] (right click and select properties on some .exe file) [23:06] i'll try that =D [23:06] how do i check if WINE is associated with nautilus [23:07] (i compiled it before i removed gnome/ubuntu [23:07] I don't hink it is [23:08] if you don't need nautilus, you can uninstall it [23:08] it is uninstalled [23:08] i just checked [23:08] then how come it starts? [23:09] i don't know, that's why i'm here xD [23:10] what happens when you type 'nautilus' in a terminal? [23:10] not currently installed [23:10] should i have restarted after uninstalling gnome/ubuntu and installing xfce/xubuntu? [23:11] what did you exactly mean by 'gnome desktop'? [23:11] no, relogging should be enough [23:11] the drag-select desktop with hardy heiron background [23:12] D3RGPS31: xfce has a similar one, although much simplier [23:12] i know [23:13] D3RGPS31: if you go to the System Monitor, can you see nautilus on the list when that desktop appears? [23:14] TheSheep: never checked there when it happened [23:14] i just went to Desktop and re-checked allow xfce to manage desktop [23:18] i think i got it =D thanks [23:42] ?