/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/05/15/#kubuntu.txt

o0Chris0o!kde400:00
ubottuKDE 4.0.4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde400:00
toensi'm running hardy heron in a virtual machine and it refuses to resize screen to 1024x76800:02
toensit worked with previous kubuntu00:03
toenstrivial issue i know, but anyone got a clue?00:03
fildomorning00:11
shane_hello i am just about to install kubuntu and am wondering where i can get some help on installin a dlink g510 card with marvell chipset i tryed with ubuntu and it crashed it up,ubuntu support couldnt help so iv decided to go with kubuntu as it apears to have better help succes00:25
linusblackoi algum brazuca ligado...00:26
franciscosaludos00:27
linusblackalguem pode me dar umas dicas00:28
franciscoalguien que sepa espanol!00:29
arriesphi00:30
krawekfrancisco: entra a #kubuntu-es00:31
Odd-rationaleshane_: I will be willing to help whenever i'm around.... Let me know when you have kubuntu up and running and are ready to start hacking on your wireless...00:32
shane_ok TY00:33
shane_ill be up in a bit kk00:33
Odd-rationaleshane_: for a hint, you might want to put my nick in front of your line when you are talking to me like I do. that way i can get highlighted and see it better...00:34
Odd-rationaleshane_: hint, use tab00:34
Odd-rationalee.g. odd<tab>00:34
lascarwhat would be a superb cd-ripping tool, akin to the one built-in to iTunes?00:35
* dwidmann_laptop announces his presence00:35
shane_                                 ok ill do this00:35
dwidmann_laptoplascar: probably nothing like itunes, but there are a bunch of options available to you.00:35
Odd-rationaleshane_: NO. not like that....00:36
shane_lol00:36
shane_i cant figure out how to place ur name up00:36
lascardwidmann_laptop: hi!  What are those options?00:36
dwidmann_laptopkaudiocreator, konqueror (audiocd:/ then drag & drop), kaffeine, k3b (yes, it can rip cds too), abcde, ripit, and more00:36
Odd-rationaleshane_: type odd<tab>00:36
* Odd-rationale ignores dwidmann_laptop presence....00:36
lascar(i'm not fond of k3b's, but konqueror?)00:36
shane_im not sure what odd tab is00:37
Odd-rationaleshane_: the first letters of my nick + tab00:37
shane_Odd-rationale: oh ok00:37
Odd-rationaleshane_: yup, much better...I'm in several channesl and it useful to be notified when someone address you...00:38
dwidmann_laptoplascar: k3b is probably the fastest and most versatile of the GUI rippers. But if you don't "like it", I recommend trying some of the others, for example, type in "audiocd:/" in konqueror and see what you get, then just drag and drop to somewhere else like your home folder or desktop.00:38
shane_Odd-rationale: ok im just about to burn kubuntu to disc00:38
dwidmann_laptoplascar: abcde and ripit are first rate ripping tools for the CLI, highly configurable, you'd probably best configure once then reuse the configuration over and over again for those00:40
Odd-rationaledwidmann_laptop: does abcde do flac?00:41
ZefirHow do I change what programs run at start-up?00:41
Odd-rationale!autostart00:42
ubottuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. For a complete guide, see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html00:42
dwidmann_laptopOdd-rationale: yes, it can also do one track flac files with a cue file, so you can re-encode over and over again..... nifty feature00:42
ZefirOh, thank you.00:42
lascardwidmann_laptop: thanx for everything.  I've actually recanted and am going with k3b; cddb works great when you have internet access :-D00:42
* lascar chuckles00:42
dwidmann_laptoplascar: yes, yes it does.00:42
lascar;-)00:43
lascarlater everyone.  Enjoy the day, or night!00:43
dwidmann_laptoplater lascar00:44
dwidmann_laptopOdd-rationale: then again, I think all of the other rippers I mentioned can do flac also.00:45
Odd-rationaledwidmann_laptop: i've been using k3b...00:46
dwidmann_laptopOdd-rationale: though they can't do the single trac + cue thing, that's abcde's unique niche00:46
Odd-rationalekonq is too slow...00:46
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dwidmann_laptopOdd-rationale: I'd say abcde and ripit are both as fast as konqueror00:46
DilutedReformhi, i'm trying to setup an IRCd that requires at least 1500 people to be connected, but kubuntu seems to limit it to 1024, how can i go about raising this limit?00:46
Odd-rationaledwidmann_laptop: you mean as slow?00:46
dwidmann_laptopOdd-rationale: s/konqueror/k3b00:47
Odd-rationaledwidmann_laptop: oh, ok00:47
dwidmann_laptopOdd-rationale: I think all of them default to using cdparanoia for the backend00:47
McRibI submitted bug #228044 a while back and it is reported to have been fixed in hardy-proposed.  I've added that repo but when trying to install the mozilla-mplayer package, it has the same error (probably still pulling it from universe)... how do I specify to install the proposed package instead?00:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 228044 in mplayerplug-in "In Hardy, mozilla-mplayer depends on firefox-3.0 - does not accept firefox-2" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22804400:49
orchid`hello00:50
orchid`i ahve an question, about backig up files00:50
orchid`i need to find the kde walet on a 64bit operating system, in order to save my passwrods. can anyone help me?00:50
dwidmann_laptopMcRib: pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy mozilla-mplayer"00:50
dwidmann_laptoporchid`: install kwalletmanager and launch it00:51
orchid`im on Ubuntu00:52
orchid`gutsy gibbon 64 bit architecture00:52
orchid`and i jsut searched in the add/remove programs bit and its not showing up00:52
McRibdwidmann_laptop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12159/00:52
dwidmann_laptopMcRib:  it doesn't see the proposed version at all according to that.00:53
McRibdwidmann_laptop: Hmm... according to the bug report page, it should be in there.00:54
dwidmann_laptopMcRib: well, check that it's there then.00:54
dwidmann_laptopMcRib: you did remember to apt-get update right?00:54
McRibdwidmann_laptop: Yep.00:54
dwidmann_laptopMcRib: if apt-cache policy doesn't see it, then as far as apt is concerned it doesn't exist.00:55
McRibI have TONS of security updates from proposed...  that I obviously don't want to install.  I just want to install this package and move on.00:55
McRibhmm00:55
McRibCesare Tirabassi is a liar! :)00:56
dwidmann_laptopMcRib:  you could grep the associated Package file for the proposed repo for mplayer. You can find this package file in the /var/lib/apt/lists directory00:56
dwidmann_laptopMcRib: also, make sure you're not using a localized repository for the proposed. They tend to be out of date.00:56
orchid`if no one else knows where or rather how to help me cna i hopefully be pointed in ther right direction?00:56
McRibdwidmann_laptop: I used the propose repository the bug report says to.00:57
dwidmann_laptoporchid`: kwalletmanager is definitely in the repositories.00:57
orchid`on ubuntu?00:57
McRib!info kwalletmanager00:57
ubottukwalletmanager (source: kdeutils): wallet manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 347 kB, installed size 812 kB00:57
orchid`64 amd arctitecture gutsy gibbon?00:57
dwidmann_laptoporchid`: yes.00:57
orchid`:s00:57
orchid`the reason im even doing this is i got a bad burn of the disc00:57
orchid`and now im fixing that.00:58
orchid`shoudl i install the kde package?00:58
dwidmann_laptoporchid`: not necessary if all you want is the kwallet00:58
orchid`i do i already have it00:58
orchid`have been using it for my messengers00:58
orchid`like, for kopete, i typed i mypasswords00:58
dwidmann_laptophmm00:58
orchid`it saved them, and reacehs into the 'wallet' when i want ot connect00:58
orchid`and same for my internet passwords00:59
lonranwhats the state of kde 4.0? can i install it on kubuntu hardy?00:59
orchid`if i ca fid those i can be nearly done :s00:59
dwidmann_laptoporchid`: you ccould try to download that package manually ...00:59
orchid`and liek i said im running gutsy gibbon x63 arctitecture, always have beena fter upgrading from feisty fawn00:59
dwidmann_laptoporchid`: also, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file00:59
orchid`hmm... im a newb can i get some steps to that?01:00
arriespi can browse files with samba, but i can't open and move them01:00
arriespwhat can i do?01:00
dwidmann_laptop!paste | orchid01:00
ubottuorchid: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)01:00
dwidmann_laptoporchid`: just copy and paste the contents of the /etc/apt/sources.list file to there, it will give you a URL to give to us01:00
Walzmynlonran, kde 4 may be installed on hardy - it's useable but lots of features are not implimented yet01:01
arriesphelp please01:01
orchid`okay, im jsut not knowing how to get that sourcelist01:01
dwidmann_laptoporchid`: open it with any old text editor that you feel like using01:01
McRibhmm... I don't know what else to do.  I just need this stupid plugin01:01
orchid`but i need to find the file :s01:01
lonranWalzmyn: do you recommend me to stay on 3.5.9 if i want all functionalities?01:02
dwidmann_laptoporchid`: that's the full path, try pressing alt+f2 then typing in "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" that should do it for you01:02
Walzmynlonran, yes. I liked kde4  but i switched  back to 3.9 until they get a few things ironed out - It is going to be very nice though01:03
lonranWalzmyn: what did you specially missed?01:03
orchid`brings up the main and multiverse01:03
orchid`restricted and unrestricted01:04
madberryHow do i block a user from system setting?01:04
Walzmynlonran, for me, not being able to hide the panel and add extra panels and the like was a deal breaker01:04
McRibHow would I go about manually installing the MPlayer plugin for Firefox?  It's the only one that plays streaming video that I've been able to find...01:04
Walzmynlonran, they also do not have the printer apps ported over yet01:04
Walzmynmadberry, why?01:05
orchid`also i seem to trip spam filters01:05
dwidmann_laptoplonran: install both, mix the two taking the better parts of each :)01:05
dwidmann_laptoporchid`: select all, copy, paste it into the pastebin :)01:05
madberry@Walzym It's a public machine and I want to make sure the background i put on there stays on there01:05
orchid`dwidmann_laptop:  i did, i trip spam filters01:05
BluesKajMcRib, which Firefox version ?01:06
kunimhello, anyone else having serious perfomance trouble with konsole 4 (with nvidia prop. drivers)?01:06
McRibBluesKaj: FF2...01:06
dwidmann_laptoporchid`: try ubuntu.pastebin.us then01:06
McRibBluesKaj: They haven't fixed the bug for the hardy package yet.... it depends on FF3 only.01:06
Walzmynmadberry, ah, in that case i'm not sure.01:06
madberryme neither01:06
orchid`http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d48522d5701:07
xikarrousxhey... i need some help with a netgear wg311v3 wireless card01:07
xikarrousxive got the drivers installed and its recognized with "sudo ndiswrapper -l"01:07
Walzmynmadberry, could you go to the actual binary and change the permissions on it to require root? (this is a guess)01:08
xikarrousxbut no wireless extentions show up with iwconfig01:08
madberrythat's a good one let me try that01:08
BluesKajyes McRib. that's why i switched to konq , FF3 wasn't working on sites that use windows media, and mplayer wasn't working , however the mozilla-mplayer plugin should work on FF201:08
dwidmann_laptoporchid`: seems to be okay, try running "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kwalletmanager"01:08
McRibBluesKaj: No, it works just fine in FF2... but I can't install it in Hardy.  The hardy package has a known bug causing it to depend on FF3....01:09
xikarrousxhola?01:09
McRibBluesKaj: I don't want to install FF3 at all.01:09
BluesKaj!firefox01:09
ubottufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins01:09
BluesKajhmm01:10
orchid`doign that in terminal...01:11
BluesKajMcRib, so you having installed Hardy yet ?01:11
orchid`it wont delete my passwords, right?01:11
BluesKajerr haven't01:11
dwidmann_laptopright01:11
McRibBluesKaj: Yes... I'm running Hardy.01:11
orchid`sweet01:11
leowhere can I find uplash01:11
leohello everyone, anybody using ultimate01:11
dwidmann_laptop!info usplash | leo01:11
ubottuleo: usplash (source: usplash): Userspace bootsplash utility. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.19 (hardy), package size 26 kB, installed size 152 kB01:11
leothanks01:12
orchid`dwidmann_laptop:  tis done isntallign and setting it up now how do i gaia ccess?01:12
dwidmann_laptoporchid`: run the command kwalletmanager01:12
Walzmynhmm, I just tried to virtualize xubuntu 64 bit in vbox, but it told me it wasn't detecting a 64 processor - how do i fix that?01:12
BluesKajwell McRib , i hate to discourage you on FF , but I didn't bother much with FF after I discovered that Konqueror runs better on the windows centric media type sites the previous releases01:12
orchid`i did teh alt f2 thing, then typed it in, nothing popped up01:13
dwidmann_laptopWalzmyn: is the host OS 64-bit?01:13
BluesKajbetter than01:13
Walzmyndwidmann_laptop, yes01:13
McRibBluesKaj: Well, I have no desire to browse windows-centric sites :)01:13
McRibBluesKaj: Besides... I'm addicted to certain browser behaviors that are only available with FF and it's plugins.01:13
leowhere can i find ubuntu ultimate edition in KDE?01:14
dwidmann_laptopMcRib: which ones in particular? I haven't been a firefox user sincce 1.0, so I'm sure I'm behind the curve01:14
shane__Odd-rationale: r u on 4 a bit im halfway through install now01:14
BluesKajright , well i've adjusted to the lack of some addons01:14
Odd-rationaleleo: i think ubuntu ultimate comes onley with gnome...01:14
shane__Odd-rationale: its takin its time01:14
Odd-rationaleshane__: I'm here01:14
shane__kk hope in around 10 mins k01:15
Odd-rationaleshane__: np01:15
McRibdwidmann_laptop: Mouse gestures is one big one.  Gmail notifier (for several GMail accounts)...01:15
leothanks odd, yeah i can't find any kde version01:15
McRibdwidmann_laptop: StumbleToolbar is huge too :)01:15
dwidmann_laptopMcRib: can you describe the latter?01:15
Odd-rationaleleo: ubuntu ultimate is not official... in fact, i wouldn't really recommend it...01:15
McRibdwidmann_laptop: You've never heard of StumbleUpon? :)01:16
Jucato!info kcheckgmail01:16
ubottukcheckgmail (source: kcheckgmail): A Gmail notifier-like notifier for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.7.4-1 (hardy), package size 157 kB, installed size 864 kB01:17
Jucato!info korn01:17
ubottukorn (source: kdepim): KDE mail checker. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 164 kB, installed size 632 kB01:17
dwidmann_laptopMcRib: I've heard that particular phrase used, but I've nod idea what it is01:17
BluesKajMcRib, I meant windows media-centric sites . There are alot of well meaning sites that assume ppl are using IE or FF2, which run the embedded media just fine.01:17
JucatoHOWTO: KDE Mouse Gestures: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3086781.001:18
McRibdwidmann_laptop: It's basically a social-bookmarking plugin.  You setup desired categories (like "linux"), press the "Stumble" button, and it takes you to a random website that another user has tagged with that category.  I've found a LOT of great sites this way.01:18
BluesKajI dunno why the Hardy devs decided on a beta browser as the default01:19
dwidmann_laptopMcRib: interesting.01:19
McRibdwidmann_laptop: www.stumbleupon.com if you're curious.01:19
dwidmann_laptopMcRib: between opera's mouse guestures and kcheckgmail I'm happy though :)01:19
McRibBluesKaj: No one but they understand that.01:20
madberry@Walzym that didn't work...01:20
* Jucato points dwidmann_laptop to the link he gave above01:21
dwidmann_laptopJucato: opera is faster and seems to be smarter about cache use, which is somewhat essential when you have a high latency link, so I'll be sticking with opera until something is done about that.01:21
Walzmynopera == goodness01:22
Jucatook01:23
agentyo yo yo01:24
Jucatodwidmann_laptop: that was for McRib... misdirected link01:24
agentlickity lickity01:24
agentlick01:24
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Jucatoagent: huh?01:24
McRibJucato: Ah... well, I'm not exactly using KDE ;)01:25
Jucatook just pointing out01:25
dwidmann_laptopMcRib: You have my sympathies :P01:25
McRibUgh... why is it that when I try to install a .deb file, it forces me to install the package from the repos instead?01:26
Jucatohow are you trying to install it?01:26
dwidmann_laptopMcRib: use dpkg -i, not apt-get install01:26
McRibdwidmann_laptop: No, I was using GDebi Installer01:26
dwidmann_laptopMcRib: still ..... try using dpkg -i01:26
McRibdwidmann_laptop: dpkg-deb: `mozilla-mplayer_3.40-5ubuntu5_i386.deb' is not a debian format archive01:28
dwidmann_laptopJucato: how well does kmail play with IMAP/S? I haven't tried in a while ... but last time I tried it it didn't behave too well, do you know if this has improved any? (especially since gmail offers IMAP/S now :) )01:28
dwidmann_laptopMcRib: that might help explain the problem then01:29
McRibI downloaded the Gutsy package...01:29
Jucatodwidmann_laptop: all I can say is that if you have suicidal tendencies, stay away from  a kmail+Gmail IMAP combo01:29
Odd-rationaleshane__: btw, what version of kubuntu did you get?01:29
dwidmann_laptopJucato: I think you mean so long as I don't have suicidal tendencies01:30
Jucatodwidmann_laptop: no. I meant what I said :)01:30
dwidmann_laptop:s01:30
JucatoKMail+Gmail IMAP = real killer01:30
dwidmann_laptopthat horrible huh?01:31
Jucatocan't say for other IMAPs though.. since Gmail is the only one I have for free :)01:31
shane__Odd-rationale:  kubuntu 8.04 hardy01:31
McRibdwidmann_laptop: So does that mean that the Ubuntu package from packages.ubuntu.com is corrupted?01:31
dwidmann_laptopMcRib: could be01:31
McRibdwidmann_laptop: It's the exactly same package as from Hardy....  except that Hardy's has incorrect dependencies.01:31
shane__Odd-rationale: is hardy a good version in 8.04 cause i just finidhed install and its reseting now01:32
Odd-rationaleshane__: yes hardy is good. did you get the kde3 or kde4 version?01:32
McRibOh good Lord..... so I downloaded the same file from a different mirror.... got a completely different error saying that Firefox isn't even installed.01:33
shane__Odd-rationale: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/01:33
McRiboh... that's because I don't have "firefox" installed... I have "firefox-2" installed.01:33
shane__the pc one this is a p4 cpu so no 6401:33
Odd-rationaleshane__: ok01:33
McRibI guess my next question is this:  How do I change a packages dependencies myself?01:33
shane__Odd-rationale: ok im up what do i need to update first01:34
shane__or can i just run the driver01:34
Odd-rationaleshane__: if you wish, you can /join #Odd-rationale and we'll see what we can do...01:34
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hmich176Hi all!01:35
tininHi, does anybody know how to listen to *.3gp video files from cellphones? I can se the video, but there's no sound01:35
shane__Odd-rationale: i get a private users are blocked for spam01:35
hmich176I'm looking for some help related to the Ubuntu 8.04 upgrade01:36
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Odd-rationaleshane__: ok nvm...01:36
afeijoI want to install skype01:36
McRibugh01:36
Odd-rationaleshane__: first run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"01:36
McRibEven the source code is screwed up... I just need a damned media player plugin!01:37
shane__Odd-rationale: i get ur #oddrational one01:37
tininafeijo use the medibuntu repositories, but you should try a free alternative (openwengo, ekiga...)01:37
afeijoI will try that, lets google...01:38
McRibWhat is the new name for build-essentials in Hardy?01:39
tininafeijo even kopete or amsn have video support, you can try them too afeijo01:40
dwidmann_laptopMcRib: build-essential is still there01:40
McRibYeah... stupid "s" :P01:41
tininanyone is able to hear to *.3gp videos?01:41
ubuntuhi01:43
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Lyroni need some help with kubuntu01:44
dwidmann_laptopLyron: we get that alot around here :P01:44
Lyronlol i guess..01:44
Lyronim having trouble going wireless with my laptop01:44
Lyroni have a broadcom bcm431201:45
dwidmann_laptop!wireless01:45
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:45
dwidmann_laptopwould probably be a good place to start01:45
Lyron:-/01:45
dwidmann_laptopIIRC, that card plays nicer with diswrapper even if there's a "native" solution.01:45
dwidmann_laptop*n01:46
Lyronive installe ndiswrapper and "installed" the win xp driver01:46
Lyronbut kubuntu doesnt recognice it01:46
* dwidmann_laptop is glad he made sure his laptop would have intel wireless ...01:47
Lyroni really dont know what else to do01:48
Lyronsorry for my english01:48
Lyron:-p01:48
afeijoI can use kopete to skype network?01:51
afeijoother question, can I use ffmpeg to convert *.avi and output to out folder?01:52
afeijoa batch convertion01:52
afeijoI add medibuntu repositories, but when I search on my adept for skype, found none01:53
afeijo*added01:54
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myk_robinsonhey. How do i use/configure apcupsd? I just bought a battery backup, because we have been having frequent brownouts.01:57
fildo!pastebin01:57
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:57
shane_Odd-rationale: can u give me ur link box again02:00
Odd-rationaleshane_: link box?02:01
Odd-rationaleshane_: you mean #Odd-rationale ?02:01
shane_that #odd link u gave me earlier02:01
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patch_Would any one be able to help me with getting the sound to work on a compaq presario V6000. Sound has always worked with gusty and fiesty now with hardy only the system sounds work.02:09
_ZeuZ_which is the channel for ubuntu servers?02:13
_ZeuZ_nm02:13
tailsfanHow do you mount a ISO Writable?02:19
luis¬¬02:19
tailsfanHey, I'm still learning02:20
luiswhat you want to do02:20
tailsfanI wanted to mount a Disc on which I not mention which one and add a file to it02:21
tailsfanDisc Image02:21
luisi dunno a program for linux02:21
afeijo#ubuntu ué!02:21
luisbut for windows02:21
tailsfanWell, as long as it's Wine Compatiable02:22
timboyI am trying to create a script that takes this command: HandBrakeCLI -i /media/cdrom -o ~/Desktop/movies/$moviename -w 320 -L -b 300 -e xvid -d --crop 0:0:90:90 and asks me what to name the movie.avi can someone give me a hand? I would really like it to pop up and ask what to name it and then just do it...02:22
Makuseruhi, i seem to be having a problem with some video playback. its a .avi file, VLC will play it, but its EXTREMLY choppy, so i tried to use Mplayer, but the video codec i usually use with it (the one thats the fastest, XV) wont work, it says "Error opening/initilizing selected video out," how can i get this codec to work?02:22
luisuse iso02:22
luisagh i forgot02:22
luissomething about iso02:23
luisi just made use of it a couple of weeks ago02:23
firecrotchtailsfan:  mkdir /mnt/iso && mount myiso.iso /mnt/iso/ -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop002:25
firecrotchtailsfan: er.... actually this:  mkdir /mnt/iso && mount myiso.iso /mnt/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop=/dev/loop002:26
tailsfanThanks :)02:27
tailsfanand will that make it writable02:27
tailsfanbecause it's HFS+02:27
firecrotchtailsfan:  it should02:28
tailsfanAlright :)02:29
psycoI can anyone help me with a program install. THey don't have a support channel02:38
psycoHi*02:39
firecrotchpsyco:  What's the name of the program?02:40
psycoafter running ./configure I get, "checking for C compiler default output name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"02:40
psycoits frameworks a stop motion animation program02:40
timboyI am trying to create a script that takes this command: HandBrakeCLI -i /media/cdrom -o ~/Desktop/movies/$moviename -w 320 -L -b 300 -e xvid -d --crop 0:0:90:90 and asks me what to name the movie.avi can someone give me a hand? I would really like it to pop up and ask what to name it and then just do it...02:41
timboyI just want it to ask me what I want the moviename to be then add .avi on to it02:42
secleinteerssssssssooo, has anyone tried running wubi in wine?02:42
firecrotchtimboy: give me like.... 2 minutes and I can put together a short script02:42
timboyfirecrotch, thx!02:42
Daisuke_Idosecleinteer: that may possibly be the least useful thing ever.02:42
psycoXD02:43
secleinteerDaisuke_Ido: nevertheless... ;p02:43
Daisuke_Idosecleinteer: would still be interesting to see02:43
shane__odd02:43
shane__Odd-rationale:02:43
Odd-rationaleshane__: yes?02:43
secleinteerDaisuke_Ido: i'm gonna try it ;)02:44
Odd-rationaleshane__: you there?02:44
Daisuke_Idogood luck secleinteer02:44
shane__yup02:44
shane__i opened knetworkmanager and i get katapult on screen02:45
Odd-rationaleshane__: /join #Odd-rationale02:45
secleinteerthat's ****ed up shane__02:45
firecrotchtimboy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12177/02:45
shane__Odd-rationale: if u want send that odd link02:45
Odd-rationaleshane__: /join #Odd-rationale02:46
shane__secleinteer: funny guy i just started kubuntu02:46
timboyfirecrotch, that looks great! so the question is how can I make it add .avi onto the name I put in?02:46
secleinteershane__: i've been using it for close to 2 years, and i've never gotten that lulz02:47
firecrotchUm.... just stick .avi on the end of the filename...02:47
firecrotchtimboy: line 3 would just become this: HandBrakeCLI -i /media/cdrom -o ~/Desktop/movies/$moviename.avi -w 320 -L -b 300 -e xvid -d --crop 0:0:90:9002:48
firecrotchat least, that *should* work02:48
timboyfirecrotch, awesome thx i'll give it a shot02:48
birnissonhi, if I install kde4 on kubuntu can I get konqueror+webkit?02:49
secleinteerDaisuke_Ido: boring.....:"Error opening file for writing: z:\ubuntu\install\custom-installation\hooks\casper-premount.sh" 5 seconds into "install"02:49
firecrotchtimboy:  if that doesn't work, I have another solution :)02:49
timboyfirecrotch, ok. how hard would it be to make this pop up the moviename question in a gui?02:50
firecrotchtimboy:  Um, I have no clue, I don't ever do that kind of scripting lol02:51
timboyok this will work for now. thx firecrotch!02:51
firecrotchtimboy:  No problem :)02:51
timboyfirecrotch, one more question. if I wanted to be able to put a space in the name would it just look like this:  HandBrakeCLI -i /media/cdrom -o "~/Desktop/movies/$moviename.avi" -w 320 -L -b 300 -e xvid -d --crop 0:0:90:90?02:54
Dr_willisSpaces in filenames can be really annoying.02:56
Dr_willisYou  may want to use the $HOME  variable instead of ~ also. :)02:56
firecrotchtimboy: HandBrakeCLI -i /media/cdrom -o "~/Desktop/movies/${moviename}.avi" -w 320 -L -b 300 -e xvid -d --crop 0:0:90:90?02:58
firecrotchand Dr_willis is right.... spaces in filenames are annoying, especially when shell scripts are involved02:58
Dr_willisI alwyas seem to end up tacking on extra quotes. :)  - isent there a case when you should be using single quotes instead of double quotes also.02:59
mantanI'm trying to put rockbox on my friend's Sansa E260 and on the ubuntu forums it says to " n a root terminal (or with root permission, such as sudo), point your directory to the Bootloader (using the cd command)02:59
Dr_willisId make the script convert the spaces into _ by default :) but im that kinda-guy02:59
mantanbut it tells  me cd isn't a command02:59
firecrotchmantan:  What is the exact command you're trying to run ?03:00
mantansudo cd media/sda103:01
mantanis what I tried03:01
firecrotchmantan:  you need a / before media.... /media/sda103:02
mantanand then I'm supposed to put these lines:03:02
mantanoh03:02
mantanok03:02
Dr_willisHeh.. Time for bash basics  lessons. :)03:02
mantanfirecrotch it's still telling me that cd isn;'t a command03:03
Dr_willisOdd error message it gave. Must be using busyboxs shell.03:03
mantanmantan@desubox:~$ sudo cd /media:/sda103:03
mantansudo: cd: command not found03:03
firecrotchmantan:  try sudo -l cd /media/sda103:04
firecrotchthat's a lowercase L03:04
mantanthat did it03:04
stdincd is a shell built-in command, not an executable03:04
mantannow I'll see if the rest of the process works03:04
timboyfirecrotch, it quit when I used spaces but works without spaces.03:07
mantanok now the command I'm supposed to put in is this:03:08
mantanchmod +x sansapatcher03:08
mantan./sansapatcher03:08
firecrotchtimboy:  Hehe, spaces cause problems lol03:08
timboyyeah figured they would... :)03:08
mantanI've tried various ways and shapes with this but it's telling me the file or directory doesn't exist03:09
beahi ya!03:15
MagLauncherHowdy one and all.  I am running Kubuntu Linux and would like to know if it is possible to install an RPM file.  I tried kPackage but I get an error about /bin/sh.  Anyone have any comments?03:29
Danish989what is the difference between installing Kubuntu-desktop, kde, kde-core and kubuntu-default-settings in Ubuntu?03:30
NickPrestaMagLauncher, what are you trying to install?03:30
MagLauncherThe program I am trying to install is vnware workstation 6.03:30
MagLauncherVirtualBox doesn't work well and I wanted to see if I could use vmware.03:31
NickPresta!vmware03:31
ubottuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers03:31
MagLauncherI will look for Ubuntu Multiverse.  Thank you.03:32
o0Chris0ohow do I set my screen resolution?03:35
Danish989what is the difference between installing Kubuntu-desktop, kde, kde-core and kubuntu-default-settings in Ubuntu?03:36
Danish989what is the difference between installing Kubuntu-desktop, kde, kde-core and kubuntu-default-settings in Ubuntu?03:36
NickPresta!repeat03:37
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience03:37
iosifjoin #sms-nsk03:46
NickPrestaiosif, I'd rather not, thanks.03:48
MagLauncher!multiverse03:48
ubottuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories03:48
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stuffcorpsehello, is anyone using vidalia 0.1.2? i have this problem where its systray icon doesn't show up. So I can't change/look at anything..03:52
pulaskihello, has anyone had problems installing kubuntu 7.10, specifically grub returns an "L 99 99 99 ..." error?03:53
pulaskiI'm using the desktop cd of kubuntu 7.10.  I am confused though.  Can I use apt-get on the command line and make permanent changes to a new installation?03:55
MagLauncherI am running Kubuntu 8.04 here.03:56
petgrilli want to open "My Documents" (xp setup) from my Kubuntu install from my desktop is there any way to mount the folders without copy em?03:58
pulaskiThanks MagLauncher,  I had a new version of 8.04 running when my clone died.  I had another machine that I had used as a file server that I'm now rebuilding as a desktop machine.  Unfortunately I don't have an 8.02 live cd only the 7.10 live cd.  My plan is to install 7.10 then dl the 8.04 cd and reinstall03:59
pulaski8.04 rather than 8.0204:00
_2could boot the live you have dl the one you want ...04:01
MagLauncherI had Xp on a 60GB hard drive, xfered it to a 160GB drive and used a CDRW to install KUbuntu on the 60.  Seeing how it is.  Definately plays the radio station I listen to much better.  lol04:01
MagLauncherI just need to get used to the way Linux is.04:01
_2"the way Linux is"    ?04:02
MagLauncherLinux is much different that Windows in some ways.04:02
MagLauncherThan04:02
pulaski_2: thanks, I do have an iso image of 8.04 but I can't burn it using the live 7.10.  I have to install 7.10 first.  my question is can I use the live 7.10 to make permanent software changes?04:03
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_2pulaski what kind of "changes" ?04:03
pulaskiI'm thinking about using apt-get with a live 7.10 to remove grub and manually install it.04:03
_2!grub | pulaski yes, see here04:04
ubottupulaski yes, see here: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:04
pulaskiI've been reading the grub.org page and that seems like an alternative to getting my installed 7.10 to boot.04:04
pulaskiok thanks you guys.  I no longer run a dual boot.  I'm strictly kubuntu now.04:06
_2grub is limited to hdd's with partitions,  and floppy disks only as far as i can tell.   (flash disks can be treeted as either of those though)04:06
MagLauncherI heard XP stops Linux Dual-Boot.  Anyone know if it is true?04:06
MagLauncherI have XP in the list but cannot boot to it.04:06
_2MagLauncher many dual-boot xp and linux04:07
MagLauncherI am refering to XP SP3, I apologize.04:07
_2ok.   sp3 i don't know anything about04:07
MagLauncherSome say with the SP3 installed Linux/XP dual boot is not allowed, or something.04:08
_2there is a ##windows channel though04:08
pulaski_2: yes I know I can run fdisk on the cl under the live 7.10 cd.  the installer on that cd however uses the grub-install package and I think it is not recognizing the correct mbr geometry thus the "L 99 99 99 ..." error.04:08
MagLauncherWell, I am more interested in checking out Kubuntu and Don'r mind that XP is disabled.04:08
pulaskiMy understanding here is that I can simillarly run apt-get on the cl under the live cd, remove the incorrectly installed grub and reinstall it and somehow manage to get the correct mbr (:04:10
_2pulaski more likely that the nomynclature changes from liveCD boot to hdd boot, you may need to use the grub prompt to setup grub rather than relying on the grub-install script04:10
_2apt-get to remove a package in the live CD ?     incredable!04:10
_2apt-get to install on the liveCD   yes you can do that.   but, i still think it's more likely an addressing issue.04:11
pulaskiyes,  I found a good page on that very topic in the grub manual.  The only thing i need to make sure of is that changes I make under the live cd will be pemanent.04:11
_2pulaski url please ?04:12
MagLauncherI have a question.  Not a complaint, actually I think it is a good feature.  I went to look at an NTFS partition, and it is blank.  Any way to make it so I can view the files?  It asked for the root password.04:12
pulaskiyeah please hold on _204:12
_2MagLauncher that should be your user password.04:12
_2unless it's incription password that it's asking for...   ;/04:13
MagLauncherYeah, I typed in my user password, but it shows the drive as empty.04:13
MagLauncherIt has my emulation files and I wanted to copy some over to the Linux drive.04:13
_2MagLauncher hmmm.    sudo ls /media/*/         you can use the real mountpoint if you know it, rather than *04:14
_2MagLauncher or vanella    mount04:15
MagLauncherOkay, thank you.04:15
_2see what is mounted where04:15
MagLauncher"sudo ls /media/*/" just shows my CD drives and my USB stick drives.04:17
_2MagLauncher ok.   and the mount command says that the ntfs is mounted where ?04:18
_2MagLauncher    mount | grep -i ntfs04:18
kgxwhats the syntax for doing opening a directory as root in konqueror, file:///root@home/me doesnt seem to work (im trying NOT to use kdesu)04:19
MagLauncher"mount | grep -i ntfs" doesn't do anything,.04:19
_2MagLauncher umm actually it does.   it says it's not mounted04:19
_2MagLauncher where is this ntfs filesystem ?     sda1 ?04:19
MagLaunchermag@Dimension:~$ mount | grep -i ntfsmag@Dimension:~$04:19
_2kgx fish:///04:20
MagLauncherNTFS is 2 partitions on my second hard drive.04:20
MagLauncherFirst drive is all Linux.04:20
MagLauncherI told Linux to use all the 60GB drive and leave the NTFS drive alone.04:20
kgx_2: yeah thats what i've resorted to for now04:21
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pulaskiHello _2, sorry here's the url: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html04:22
_2are you going to make me guess ?        /dev/sdb1  and  /dev/sdb2  ???      you could do, cat /proc/partitions   or, fdisk -l    to find out04:22
_2pulaski k. give me a sec.04:22
MagLauncherSorry.04:22
_2pulaski apt is not mentioned anywhere on that page ???04:24
MagLauncher!pastebin04:24
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:24
MagLauncher_2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12185/04:25
MagLauncherI apologize for the delay.04:27
shawnghey folks. Im use to debian.  I just tried out Latest kubuntu. 8.04 i think it is..it worked fine up untell it informed me that it could install the "not for free" drivers for my nvidia card (laptop, dell precision 4300) now i got a white screen with a black line in the middle of it04:27
_2MagLauncher ok.     <<< sudo mkdir -p /media/sdb1 /media/sdb5 ;sudo mount /dev/sdb1 -t ntfs /media/sdb1 ;sudo mount /dev/sdb5 -t ntfs /media/sdb5 >>>04:27
shawngsorry black and grey line04:27
_2MagLauncher report back if it errors out.04:27
MagLauncherOkay.04:27
MagLauncherFailed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Operation not supportedMount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use.04:28
MagLauncherIt had alot to say.04:28
shawngits just basically, a display problem. i can get to tty2 and so forth.  I just dont knowhow to back out what i just did.  is there an aptitude program i can run and remove the envidia stuff i just installed?04:28
pulaski sorry _2 I'm a relative newbie especially when it comes to tweaking grub.  My plan is to use apt-get to remove grub as installed with grub-install by the live 7.10 cd and manually reinstall following the instructions on that page.  I'm hoping the process will somehow turn out better.04:28
_2MagLauncher ok.  sudo umount /dev/sdb*      and try it again.04:29
MagLauncherOkay.04:29
_2pulaski using apt will NOT do what you plan to do there ^   sorry.04:30
MagLauncher$LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Operation not supportedMount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use.04:30
pulaskihmmm04:30
_2pulaski using apt-get   even with the --purge option will not remove grub from the MBR   apt just simply doesn't work that way.04:31
MagLauncherI will re-download the files.04:31
pulaskiI see.04:31
_2MagLauncher ok.  that's why it showed as empty.   it's marked uncleen,  you need to boot that other os and let it scan it's file system for errors.04:32
_2MagLauncher however you should now see in /media/sdb5  what ever is on the extended partition on that disk.   assuming that you showed me all the error messages04:33
MagLauncherLet me paste the whole error mesages.  brb04:33
_2k04:33
MagLauncherhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/12186/04:34
MagLauncherI might take out the drive and put it aside so i can have XP back if I want it.04:34
MagLauncherRight now i cannot access XP.04:35
_2pulaski if you have a "patched" package of grub and want to install it in the live CD and then rerun the grub-install --root-dir=blah blah      it will over write the MBR with hopefully a better install....04:35
pulaskiwell I can forget about apt-get because as I read on about grub from the manual I know I can invoke a grub shell and make whatever changes I can read about there that might help me to tweak the current installation to work correctly.  ie no "L 99 99 99 99..." error.04:35
_2MagLauncher k.  i'm looking at your paste now...04:35
_2pulaski correct.    as i said "most likely an addressing issue, use the grub shell/prompt to search for the bios address"04:36
_2MagLauncher yeah. i see it's both fs's   ;/04:38
pulaskiok, thanks _2 that is helpful.  Like I said I'm only a hobbiest but I think I can figure this out.04:38
qe2315hello04:38
_2pulaski note; in the grub shell tab-completion helps.04:39
_2!tab | pulaski04:39
ubottupulaski: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.04:39
qe2315im trying to get flash installed on my 64 bit ubuntu os has anyone done this b4?04:39
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_2!flash6404:39
ubottuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava04:39
MagLauncherBe back soon.04:41
qe2315ty ill try this04:41
_2grub wiped out my filesystem :(04:43
_2well actually it only borked it.04:44
shawngis there a bot here like the dpkg bot?04:45
_2!bot04:46
ubottuI am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)04:46
pulaski_2: thanks.  I'm going to continue.  I'll cya around.04:46
qe2315Thank you very much that worked Great!04:46
_2pulaski if you have other questions you know where to find us04:46
_2qe2315 welcome04:46
_2/ban Jucato@*04:47
qe2315ok I have one more question... Dual monitors, I hope someone has an easy link for that :p04:49
_2!dualhead04:50
ubottuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama04:50
_2!Xinerama04:50
ubottuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead04:50
_2pick you choice, not your nose.04:50
_2:)04:51
_2/ban *!Jucato@*04:52
_2/kickban Jucato!Jucato@58.69.178.13    "say; don't i know you, didn't you used to do major networking some place?"04:57
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grendal_primeok im back.05:00
grendal_primeanyone miss me?05:00
* Agent_bob never fired a shot...05:00
Agent_bob:)05:01
grendal_primeim new to this...ive used debian (straight up ) for like 4 years now and...well i got a new laptop so figured id try this out.05:01
grendal_primegot a question about nvidia drivers.05:01
Agent_bob!nv grendal_prime best i can do is point at the infonode on that, sorry;05:02
ubottuAgent_bob: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:02
Agent_bob!nv | grendal_prime best i can do is point at the infonode on that, sorry;05:02
ubottugrendal_prime best i can do is point at the infonode on that, sorry;: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:02
grendal_primethe machine is a dell precision m4300.05:02
grendal_primeya i read that ubottu bot helped me out05:02
grendal_primeim just wondering ifn anyone has set this up on this particular laptop.05:02
Agent_bobgrendal_prime larfer user base in #ubuntu    if no one answers here, try there.05:03
Agent_bobthe xorg driver is not DE specific,  so if you don't mention kde they shouldn't care.05:04
Agent_bobs/larfer/larger/  ^05:04
[GuS]Hi guys... is there a problem with Qt Designer 4.4, it starts by default with Oxygen style, but if i set plastique style with qt4 settings, it still starts with oxygen style and without fonts on menu bar and toolbar (currently i've installed kde3.x and kde4, but using the first)05:06
o0Chris0ohey guys, I'm unable to connect to my windows pc through my home network to get my files, any ideas? I click on "samba shares" and it says couldnt' connect05:06
MagLauncherI added the multiverse to the repositories but cannot find vmware player.05:07
MagLauncherI get thi smessage installing vmware workstation:05:07
MagLauncherrpm -U --replacepkgs  '///media/cdrom0/My\ Downloads/VMware-workstation-6.0.3-80004.i386.rpm';echo RESULT=$?error: Failed dependencies:/bin/sh is needed by VMwareWorkstation-6.0.3-80004.i386RESULT=105:07
stdinMagLauncher: we use .deb not .rpm05:09
MagLauncherOkay.05:10
Agent_bob!apt | MagLauncher05:11
ubottuMagLauncher: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)05:11
MagLauncherI was using apt to look for the vmware player.  I ge 4 items for vmware but none are the player.05:12
stdinMagLauncher: doesn't look like it is in multiverse any more05:12
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Agent_bob!info vmware-player05:14
ubottuPackage vmware-player does not exist in hardy05:15
crash__!ot05:15
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:15
Agent_bob!info vmware-player dapper05:15
stdinMagLauncher: go to vmware.com and download the .tar.gz version05:15
MagLauncherOkay.05:15
crazy_busI have mythtvbackend opening everytime I start my computer.  How do I tell it not to (It's not in the .kde/Autostart folder)05:24
Agent_bobinit script ?05:35
Agent_bob!autostart05:35
ubottuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. For a complete guide, see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html05:35
Agent_bob!startup05:35
ubottuTo make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot05:35
Agent_bob!upstart05:36
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/05:36
crazy_bus!boot05:37
ubottuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto05:37
crazy_busI still cant find mythtv in the autostart or env folders.05:43
MagLauncher!vmware05:45
ubottuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers05:45
anethum_ahey i just got a cool idea for a window manager effect, who should i tell?05:57
stdinthe compiz people probably05:58
eyemonwhats the use of katapult?05:59
ElecNinja To easily access your programs with a few short keys.05:59
stdinto start something quickly without having to go into the menu05:59
anethum_akatapult is a great program to access programs and files quickly by just typing the name (or first few letters)06:00
anethum_ait will also do basic calculator functions too06:00
dpowerdim trying to use chsh to make a bogus shell for a user... which shell do i use06:00
dpowerdto disable all functionality basically06:00
eyemonwhen i launch it nothing happens06:00
stdinpress alt-space06:01
eyemonnothing is happening man06:01
anethum_atype the first few letters of a program you want to start06:01
eyemonwhere should i write the letters?06:02
stdindpowerd: I tend to use /bin/false or /usr/sbin/nologin06:02
anethum_ajust press alt+space and type when the katapult program appears06:02
eyemonthe katapult does not appear when i press alt+space06:03
eyemony's that??06:04
anethum_abring up a terminal and type katapult and see if it starts then06:04
the_zenmanThat might happen if you've got compiz running, for some reason.06:05
eyemonya it works06:06
eyemonbut alt+space does not work06:07
eyemonhow can i fix it??06:07
Agent_bobdpowerd   false  or true  either work well and both have their adcantages06:08
Agent_bobooops  he's gone06:08
the_zenmancheck if katapult is running by running 'pidof katapult' in a terminal06:08
anethum_ayou can go to system setting>keyboard and mouse>keyboard shortcuts and set it yourself06:08
the_zenmanif it gives a number, but nothing happens when you press alt+space, then kill the process and run it again06:08
the_zenmanyeah, check if for some reason the shortcuts are different for you06:09
anethum_aits under command shortcuts and under the utilities section06:09
rsc-232how do i find out what my tv card is coming up as06:16
eyemonwhere can i get adobe photoshop for ubuntu06:19
dontbugmelol06:19
sgrahamgimp06:19
sgrahambut that is funny eyemon06:20
dontbugmeor use wine06:20
sgrahami mean..hell...im still loling on that06:20
eyemon:(06:20
dontbugmeheh06:20
eyemonhey i'm very new to this06:20
sgrahamyou can do everything you do with photoshop with gimp06:20
eyemono06:20
dontbugmethere is even gimpshop I think06:20
sgrahamyou just need get use to where things are..sure06:21
sgrahami mean my oldest son does all kinds of crazy stuff with it and there is a ton of plugins for that thing06:21
sgrahamyou can video edit with it to06:21
anethum_ayeah, gimp is a really good graphics program, and yeah, it has a little learning curve, but its easy to get used to06:21
sgrahami know you sure get alot for the price(especially when you compaire it to photoshop in price) and it makes compatable files06:22
sgrahamgrrrrrrrrrrr im not liking this buntu stuff06:22
sgrahamim thinking im heading back to debian testing06:22
sgrahami keep having problems with the vid drivers..06:23
sgrahamand it locks the entire machine..06:23
Chrysaliskde3 or 4?06:23
sgrahami think it has alot more to do with xorg actually. and the perpriatory nvidia drivers06:23
househi all06:25
anethum_ahello06:26
Chrysaliskde4 was problematic for me too, pretty much everything i tried to open or close gave me errors and it freezes on maximizing/restoring windows, 3.5 has been flawless for me and very responsive (i was surprised how responsive it was at first)06:27
housechrysalis , read my message in KDE4 channel06:27
sgrahamAgent_bob:  ya06:27
houseChrysalis: i understand  how slow it is , im running a 2.4 GHZ with 512 RAM and 256MB nvidia card and it still slow and weird , it dont do what you want and desktop effects cant work06:28
sgrahamthe only thin that bothers me about the buntu's in general is that they seem so tied into the gui.  I mean i run into a problem and the entire thing goes wonky..06:28
sgrahami cant just like kill x..reconfigure it and fire it up again06:28
househowever Chrysalis i still believe KDE4 is still new and its only 4.0 , i believe 4.4 will be a major jump but why did they release 4.0 now , i wished if Kubuntu remix said we will extend this project until the next kde release but yuou know how competitors work in this world hehe06:29
Agent_bobsgraham agreed,    but what i said would be trolling in here though.    and !ot06:29
sgrahamoh06:29
Chrysalishouse: they want it getting tested, and yea, its not rdy for mianstream. . . by far06:30
sgrahamwell im not registerd here..so i cant pm you ..hold on ill set up the ident brb06:30
ugaChrysalis: it's not meant to be ready06:30
ugaChrysalis: they just want to test it as much as possible06:30
Agent_bobsgraham i think you can "just like kill x..reconfigure it and fire it up again"    sudo killall kdm     login, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg       sudo kdm06:30
Chrysalisits like building a tottaly new DE from teh ground up, all programs need proting etc, its gonna take a while till i feel comfortable enough to move06:30
houseChrysalis:  have you updated to 4.04?06:31
sgrahamya had something weird happen with that though..hold on06:31
ugaChrysalis: 4.1 should already be usable. 4.2 and 4.3 should make it much faster and robust06:31
rsc-232how do i find out what my tv card is coming up as06:31
Chrysalis4.3 is what i have i think06:31
surgyhey guys fixing to move back to kubuntu06:31
surgyis kde4 worth anything yet?06:32
ugaChrysalis: 4.1 isn't out yet =)06:32
ugaso neither 4.3 =)06:32
anethum_aactually kde 4.0.4 is pretty usable06:32
surgy"pretty" usable.....06:32
Agent_bobsgraham i'm not running the latest, they seem to be testing some "auto_re_configure_every_time_X_thingy" something or 'nother   in the hardy breed06:32
surgyanswers my question, kde 3 it is06:32
Chrysalisyea, add a zero in between there :p06:32
o0Chris0oits usuable06:32
o0Chris0obut its not feature rich yet06:32
ugaanethum_a: you can't even move widgets, layouting is broken, konqueror won't load pages right..., that's not usable =)06:33
ugayes, konsole works, right06:33
o0Chris0oits usable06:33
o0Chris0o:)06:33
Agent_bobi should not even try to talk,  everyone i say something to is already gone...06:33
ugayes, "usable" as in "you can use it, but it won't work", right¿06:33
Chrysalisyou cant really configure much of anything, i hope thats not on purpose and changes as it matures06:33
housei want to convince my family that Linux rockz , thats why i have kde4 installed , and soon il show them that this is the mother of Vista and Mac , a system that does everything and can run all mac and windows products . this is the approach of linux06:34
fildoo0Chris0o: howd u go?06:34
o0Chris0ohowd I got06:34
rsc-232any ideas?06:34
o0Chris0ofildo06:34
o0Chris0oI switched back06:34
o0Chris0oits not usable for me :)06:34
fildook06:34
Chrysaliso0Chris0o: same :)06:34
o0Chris0oI am sticking with stable till kde4 comes to be stable06:35
surgykde 4 cant run "all windows products" can it?06:35
houseo0Chris0o: if Jesus christ is GOD , and hes GOD incarnated into Jesus , and Jesus Worshiped GOD , the question arises , how can GOD worship GOD ... hmm06:36
o0Chris0omost linux os can't run all windows products :)06:36
surgyi mean its been a while since ive messed with linux but its still heavely dependant on wine for win32 apps right?06:36
izzyblol06:36
anethum_aive got kde 4.0.4 installed along with kde 3.5.9 and for only being in distros for a couple months now, i am very impressed with the usabilty of kde 4 at the moment, its shaping up quickly to be a great DE06:36
izzybwhere'd that come from?06:36
Chrysalissurgy: what windows programs exactly do you wanna use? the kde once are for the most part better then any windows once and free06:36
surgyim not even understanding the big deal about kde 406:37
surgyits just an update right?06:37
anethum_amore like a total overhaul06:37
grendal_primegod that was overly difficult06:38
izzybI only played with it for a few minutes, but found it wasn't usable by me at the time.  too many things I can't figure out how to do that I can do in kde306:38
grendal_primeAgent_bob: ok this is me again06:38
surgyanethum hmm looks like i need to hit google for a min06:38
ugasurgy: everything got rewritten. The way kde does multimedia, filesystem access, desktop...06:38
grendal_primesorry new nic06:38
emilsedghizzyb: man, KDE 4.0 like little baby...06:38
izzyb?06:39
izzybyou mean it's not quite ready for use?06:39
crazy_buswhat is the best way to disable mythbuntu in init.d?06:39
izzybI'd agree06:39
Lenaud01I have a hp pavilion and it has vista on it and I cant stand it, I did kubuntu with the windows install option but my wireless does not work at all in kubuntu?06:39
anethum_anot for full day to day use at least06:39
anethum_awhat pavilion is it, thats what im on right now on wireless06:40
Lenaud01I would like to switch over but need have wireless of course06:40
surgyok now i get it06:40
Lenaud01its a paviolion 6839cl06:40
surgykde 4 is like kde's version of vista06:40
surgy.....06:40
izzybcrazy_bus, what is the name of the process in /etc/init.d/  -- do something like update-rc.d remove mythbuntu?06:40
surgyi hate widgets06:40
Lenaud01it adds more then widgets surgy06:41
surgyLenaud01 tell me something worthwhile that it does add?06:41
surgyas compared to 3.5.x06:41
o0Chris0o!kde406:42
ubottuKDE 4.0.4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde406:42
ugasurgy: something that will finally make your soundcard work when 4 apps are playing at the same time?06:42
Lenaud01read there site and compare for self surgy and form your own opionion06:42
ugasurgy: something that will do your flash cards right when you want to use them?06:42
surgylol why would i ever have four apps accesing my sound card?06:42
ugasurgy: something that will show your cameras right when you connect them in digikam?06:42
izzyber, crazy_bus that should be update-rc.d mythbuntu remove06:42
ugasurgy: oh you do, you just didn't notice yet06:42
ugaon a daily basis06:42
surgyexample?06:42
Lenaud01anethum_a did you have do anything get wireless working??06:42
crazy_busizzyb: should I force it?  update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)06:43
ugasurgy: oh my... it's obvious, think a bit. KDE will play sounds through your soundcard on each event. amarok will too, and at the same time if you open flash, flash can't play06:43
izzybcrazy_bus, yes06:43
ugasurgy: or open skype while you hear music06:43
anethum_aLenaud01, yeah, it took me a bit to track down exactly what i needed to do, but go to www.uboontu.com and search for your laptop06:43
izzybyou need to force it if the script is still in init.d06:43
anethum_aLenaud01, i was trying to track down the tutorial i used but unfortunately it seems i did not bookmark it06:44
Lenaud01thanks a ton anethum_a funny thing is I could not even downgrade this one to xp lol I tryed and no harddrives were detected with the xp cd lol06:44
crazy_busthanks izzyb06:44
izzybcrazy_bus, to put it back after do update-rc.d myth defaults06:44
Lenaud01kubuntu worked fine tho with the windows version hopfully i can wipe vista off I hate it its crap06:44
anethum_ayeah, kubuntu runs so much better on this laptop than vista did06:45
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ugasurgy: it's not just bits that have been changed. it's the whole of kde that has been rewritten from scratch06:45
izzybLenaud01, as I've just discovered going back to xp from vista can be a driver nightmare too :(06:45
Lenaud01vista is a joke06:45
izzybyeah, that much most agree on06:45
Lenaud01yea heard that izzyb06:45
Chrysalishas anyone got logitech mx518 thumb buttons working? nothings worked for me that i could find googling06:45
surgyuga you say things and assume my usage of my desktop is the same as yours, when i multi task I never run the same thing twice, If i want multimedia i only use one type of software, IE: vlc for movies or amarok for sound never both06:45
Lenaud01vista is to xp what millenium was to 9806:46
izzybexcept microsoft who things they can force everyone to use vista like it or not06:46
izzybyeah, That was a painful time too06:46
ugasurgy: you say things and assume that you are the only kde 3.x user around?06:46
surgyvista sucks06:46
Lenaud01dx10 is huge thats all they got06:46
ugasurgy: kde 3.x is broken, not for you, but for the rest of users it is06:46
ugathat's why it needed a rewrite06:46
Chrysalisthey are already working on windows 7 (i think what the new one was called)06:46
anethum_ayeah, one of the main reasons im using linux today is because of trying to do a clean install of XP, i was like, omg, where am i going to get these drivers from? nothing works!06:46
surgymy 2.8 ghz athlonX2 laptop with 4 gb ram and 180 gb hdd takes 5 minutes to boot into vista, something is wrong with that06:47
Lenaud01yea there ditching vista Chrysalis06:47
Lenaud01that search engine is going make ubuntu/kubuntu even bigger anethum_a lol great resource06:47
izzybkde4 will come into its own in time, and I have little doubt I'll run it and love it - when its ready for me06:47
Chrysalisso has anyone got their mouse thumb (back/forward) buttons working? nothing seems to work for me06:47
Chrysalismx518 in particular06:48
anethum_ayeah, i love it, it was a great idea06:49
ugaChrysalis: you just need to configure the number of buttons in xorg possibly06:49
surgyanyone ever do any console emulation on there buntu box?06:49
Lenaud01I get no results putting my lappy model in :(06:49
ugaChrysalis: I have an mx laser mouse and had it working with all buttons06:49
Chrysalisuga: which config did you use?  there was a couple walk throughs on ubuntu forums that didnt do anything for me06:50
ugaChrysalis: I had mapped the thumb buttons to switch desktop and desktop sorting. So much fun with compiz and kde4 stuff06:50
anethum_alenaud01, im trying to find it myself, yeah try some different keywords like HP, just the model number, pavilion06:50
ugaChrysalis: ugh, yes, I had to test different mappings and one worked finally, but each mouse is different06:51
anethum_alenaud01, is it a DV series?06:51
Lenaud01I got it :)06:51
Lenaud01broadcom06:51
ugaChrysalis: in compiz you can configure number 7 to rotate desktop for example06:51
ugayou can specify numbers06:51
Lenaud01thats the wireless card type per device manager06:51
Lenaud01ndiswrapper i have a feeling06:51
Chrysalisuga: well, ill try searching more i guess06:52
ugaChrysalis: I have to leave now, but if you cannot figure out, I'll be back in the evening06:52
Chrysalisuga: ok, thank you06:52
anethum_alenaud01, this looks helpful here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47596306:53
Lenaud01is that what you did anethum_a?06:53
Lenaud01I assume you have broadcome to having a pavilion as well06:54
ugaChrysalis: I forgot, if you can't find it in ubuntu forums, check gentoo ones, they usually have very detailed ones06:54
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Lenaud01broadcom06:54
anethum_alenaud01, yeah broadcom here also, thats not the tutorial i followed but it looks pretty good, if i was trying to get wireless working right now i would try it06:55
Lenaud01ok thanks06:55
Lenaud01issue is I have no interent on kubuntu when i go to that06:55
Lenaud01and it wants me to use repos06:55
anethum_aLenaud01, give me a min i might have found the tutorial i used06:59
Lenaud01you using kubuntu 8.04?07:00
Agent_bob!bug07:01
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots07:01
anethum_ahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=769990 that is the tutorial i used i believe, and yes 8.0407:01
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anethum_aif that applies to you07:01
Lenaud01thanks a lot anethum_a07:01
Lenaud01im running 64 bit but im sure same lol07:02
Lenaud01thanks a lot anethum_a07:03
anethum_ano problem, hopefully you can at least use this is a starting point for more info if its not successful07:04
anethum_awell good luck, im off to bed, ive got school in the morning07:05
Agent_bobtimes up.   gooday07:10
firatmerhaba tük varmı burada07:18
firatihtiyacım var bir konuda07:19
firattürk07:19
Jucato!tr | firat07:20
ubottufirat: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.07:20
edoslut all07:24
izzybI'm fighting with a problem causing my system to hang randomly in a strange way.  I could use some help isolating it -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12199/07:29
snowolfizzyb: could be the problem related to any application you might be running? I experience a problem (not on kubuntu) with World of Warcraft that is exactly like your one07:33
izzybhmm, only programs I can think of that may have been running during all the crashes are firefox2, konsole, and maybe konqueror07:35
izzybas far as processes I ran07:35
izzyboutside of using xen and compiz, I'm running a standard kubuntu hardy install07:36
izzybhmm, with lvm and raid active07:36
ceohi07:36
snowolfizzyb: no idea of what might cause it, just I run a similar Sabayon/Gentoo install (two monitors and all of that) and experience freezes with WoW, usually I reset :)07:37
izzyb_crap, just hung again.07:39
izzyb_I'm going to drop this system down to console only to isolate xwindows as the cause07:40
surgyhi07:43
surgyi forgot how to get to the restricted drivers manager07:43
surgy!nvidia07:43
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:43
tikidoes anybody see any advantage to enabling the root account and using su rather than using sudo for everything?07:51
timboyanyone know of a good cli m4p to avi converter? preferably m4p to xvid07:52
ronerhola es mi primera noche en kubuntu07:54
izzyb_tiki, I usuallyy enable the root account for times when I'm doing a lot at the command line that requires root.07:54
timboyizzyb_, why don't you just do sudo su?07:55
izzyb_hmm, never considered even trying such a thing07:55
izzyb_I guess that would eliminate the need for a root password07:56
timboyizzyb_, yes then you don't have to lock the root password when you are done... ;)07:56
* izzyb_ has never been that concerned about running as root. I've done it for years. 07:57
timboyizzyb_, not concerned about running as root but if you forget to lock root account it leaves your system more vulnerable.07:58
tikihow is the root account locked out07:59
izzyb_timboy, not sure how that would be. your user account would be the point of attack then instead of root07:59
timboyizzyb_, yes but do you know what my user account is?08:00
izzyb_I'm sure it's not that hard to figure out08:00
Roy_MuzzDoes ubuntu have a default program that can be used as a vnc client or should I specifically apt-get a new one?08:00
izzyb_timboy, are you logged in as dena?08:01
timboyif you were attacking my system remotely it would be08:01
timboyizzyb_, no that's just my system name08:01
izzyb_ah, I see08:01
izzyb_my mistake08:01
timboyi always name my system different than username but i'm paranoid... ;)08:02
tikikfrb is desktop sharing for kubuntu....im not sure what it is for gnome08:02
tikiit uses vnc08:02
Roy_Muzztiki, thanks, perfect08:03
izzyb_hmm, strange, irc knows my username not my system name.  how do you mask yours timboy?08:04
timboyI don't remember how i did it off the top of my head was a while ago when I set this system up08:05
izzyb_there are a number of ways for a remote user to find out the primary account on a box, so I wouldn't rely on sudo as a fool proof defence of the root account08:06
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eatThisAndDieizzyb_: there is?08:07
izzyb_any application you run is a potential whole to your user account.08:08
izzyb_all it takes is an unpatched bug in a program you use and sudo is rendered useless08:08
izzyb_well, not useless, they still have to break your password08:09
izzyb_but they know the account to attack. so no better then having a root account08:09
izzyb_of course, you shouldn't allow remote access to root, and you shouldn't run anything like irc as root08:09
izzyb_but thats  the case even if you don't activate a root password08:10
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peer_Ok, I made a copy of a directory with rsync to a mobile disk. diffed it - everything is fine. but with "Properties" on the two directories, I get different total file sizes. This should not be like that.08:23
p_quarlespeer_, different filesystems? different inode sizes? I'm not sure I buy that they should take exactly the same space08:27
peer_p_quarles: probably, but they should still show the same file sizes. or maybe two values: the real ones, and the file-system-affected-ones.08:28
p_quarlesthe "real" one is affected by the filesystem . . .08:29
p_quarlesall I'm saying is, investigate the differences between the disks and how they're formatted before concluding that anything is not as it should be08:30
peer_no, no. if i put a file on the disk with x bytes, it should tell me that it has x bytes and retrieve x bytes. not y bytes, even if it takes y bytes on the disk.08:30
p_quarlesif you say so08:31
peer_well, the total file size serves as a rough estimation that the whole copy thind went well. why should i investigate further if everything was copied fine? it makes things more complicated.08:31
PeanutHorstoh btw08:32
PeanutHorstubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo su -08:32
PeanutHorstroot@ubuntu:~#08:32
PeanutHorst^^ huge bug as i see it :p08:32
p_quarlespeer_, rsync authenticates with hashes, though -- saves the trouble08:32
p_quarlesPeanutHorst, how is that a bug?08:32
PeanutHorstp_quarles: instant interactive root shell is a bug.08:33
p_quarlesPeanutHorst, no it's not08:33
pyro17uuuugh08:33
p_quarlesPeanutHorst, though the proper way is to use sudo -i08:34
Bauldrickall users except mines screen res reverts to 1024x* when logging in? I can set to 1280* through NVIDIA X settings, but it always goes back to 1028??08:35
mehdi_WoW(it s my first Time ;) (test))08:43
djdarkmanwhere does kontact keep it`s lock files?08:44
p_quarlesdjdarkman_, in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/08:46
htrednekHow do you locate the install location of a program apt installed?  ie Firefox?08:53
smerilhardy heron is shit i cant even use bloody myspace08:53
htrednekSorry for the noob question, I'm waay rusty in linux and am just getting back into it.08:53
smerilit says error loading xml document when i click on the myspace player08:54
smerilthat proves how smoth windows can be08:55
p_quarleshtrednek, use the "which" command -- e.g., "which firefox"08:55
p_quarlesit should return /usr/bin/firefox -- meaning that the executable is in /usr/bin (like most are)08:56
stdinhtrednek: "dpkg -L <package>" will list all the files installed by "<package>"08:57
htrednekp_quaries / stdin, thank you. That is exactly what I was looking for.09:04
ActionParsniplo each09:10
smerilhow can i wiev myspace player from firefox it says that it has error loading xml document when i try to play music09:16
smerilhttp://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=8137132709:16
smerilbefore i updated to hardy heron from the terminal everything worked fine09:17
smerilpls help09:17
ActionParsnipsmeril: let me websearch09:17
joebros_smeril? have you tried a fresh install of hardy heron?09:18
joebros_i've read in many places that updating causes some problems09:18
joebros_smeril: what kind of problems are you facing?09:18
smerilsry i was wrong on this one i have a fresh install and on my other laptop i did it from the terminal09:19
ActionParsniphttp://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=47936309:19
smerilwhat is xml document09:19
joebros_smeril: so are both (laptop and fresh install) causing problems?09:19
smerilno only this one with the fresh install from live cd09:20
smerilbut except that it is working09:20
ActionParsnipsmeril: do you have full updates and latest flash plugin?09:20
smerilyes09:20
smerilwhat flash plugin is best09:21
PeanutHorstum, what's the name of the bootloader used for the start of kubuntu bootup from livecd?09:21
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smerili have to klick on the player before it can wiev for ex youtube or myspace09:21
smerilit has a big play sign on it09:21
smerili downloaded the flash plugin that firefoc recomended me to install09:22
ActionParsnipsmeril: do other flash sites work ok?09:23
ActionParsnipwww.youtube.com09:23
ActionParsnipwww.fat-pie.com09:23
smerilYES09:23
smerilonly myspace09:23
smerili mean everything works except myspace09:24
joebros_?09:24
joebros_smeril: perhaps it is a javascript setting09:24
smerilhow can i change that?09:24
joebros_smeril: i mean in firefox do you have javascript enabled?09:25
smerilwhere do i find that in settings?09:25
joebros_smeril: Tools->Options->Content09:25
smerilyes09:25
smeriljava is enebled09:25
joebros_smeril: Check the enable javascript09:26
smerilit is ticked09:26
joebros_mmm09:26
smerilwierd09:26
joebros_weird09:26
ActionParsnipsmeril: if you verify java is installed does it succeed. Use http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp09:27
smerilwhat does a xml document do ?09:27
joebros_smeril: an xml document can have data, settings, layout properties09:28
ActionParsnipsmeril: you could try removing then reinstalling flash09:29
smerilit says you are using a newer version of JRE than the current version availible on java.com09:29
joebros_smeril: impossible !09:30
ActionParsnipsmeril: id rinstall java from java.com09:30
ActionParsnipsmeril: sun make java, id install sun's java09:30
smerilshould i delete the current version befre install the new one09:32
joebros_smeril: yes delete it, and make a reboot if it asks to09:33
joebros_does anyone has some experience in installing kubuntu from DVD?09:36
smeril_when i try to open the downloaded java file it says it cant open the file and when i try to remove java with adept it says it cant remove it because other programs are depending on it09:41
joebros_smeril: did you close firefox?09:41
joebros_smeril: you can reboot your machine and then directly after rebooting try to remove java09:42
smeril_i will try09:42
xt828i have a rather odd problem09:43
joebros_xt828: what is it?09:44
xt828when i run apt-get in konsole, it keeps trying to connect to a mythical server at 127.0.0.109:44
xt828but if i run adept manager it works fine09:44
smeril_it still says the same after reboot09:45
xt828yeah09:45
xt828rebooted a couple of times to no effect09:46
smeril_Cannot remove 'sun-java6-bin'09:46
smeril_One or more applications depend on sun-java6-bin. To remove sun-java6-bin and the dependent applications, use the Synaptic package manager.09:46
smeril_how can i remove java with synaptic?09:47
joebros_smeril: what are the applications that depend on the sun-java6-bin package?09:47
smeril_i dont know09:47
smeril_maybe firefox09:47
joebros_smeril: mmm09:48
joebros_smeril: type "man synaptic" when you're in the console09:48
spitfirekdvHi all! I have a strange problem with kopete in kubuntu 8.04 - it restarts X when I want to read message09:48
smeril_i am in synaptic now and i have marked all java applications but how do i confirm remove after marking them?09:49
joebros_smeril: click on Accept button09:50
smeril_i cant find it wierd09:50
smeril_i am still looking09:52
joebros_smeril: :(09:52
Chrysalisi am getting a bunch of errors in terminal from 'sudo kate'. . . temp files being owned by uid 1000 instead of 009:53
Chrysalisany idea?09:53
smeril_have a look for you self http://bayimg.com/AAJHeaabK09:54
joebros_smeril: it is the "Apply" button that you need to click at09:56
joebros_smeril: try to make changes so that the Apply button is enabled again09:56
smeril_can it be save markings?09:57
smeril_sry09:57
smeril_apply i grey09:57
smeril_cant touch09:57
joebros_smeril: yes, i've seen that the apply button is grey, try to make it enabled again by making changes to the pakages selected (i.e. mark the package and then unmark it)09:58
smeril_when i start synaptic it says that it will start without admin rights09:59
joebros_ah ok09:59
joebros_smeril: start synapsys with administrator privileges09:59
joebros_smeril: type "sudo synapsis" in the console10:00
smeril_smeril@smeril-laptop:~$ sudo synapsis10:00
smeril_[sudo] password for smeril:10:00
smeril_sudo: synapsis: command not found10:00
smeril_smeril@smeril-laptop:~$10:00
joebros_smeril: type "sudo passwd root"10:01
smeril_sry10:01
joebros_smeril: then enter a password for the root account10:01
smeril_i typed wrong10:01
smeril_:)10:01
smeril_removal is done10:03
smeril_but when i want to install the new file from java.com it says Couldn't display "/home/smeril/Desktop/jre-6u5-linux-i586.bin".10:03
joebros_smeril: how are you installing it?10:04
joebros_smeril: try to install it from console10:05
joebros_smeril: i.e. go to your console and then run the file10:05
smeril_sudo apt-get ??10:05
joebros_smeril: no, download the file from sun website, save it to disk, then type the filename in the console10:06
smeril_ok10:06
sig_wal1installing sun-java6-jre package is easier way :)10:06
smeril_it dosent work what directory should i be in?10:09
joebros_smeril: i assume that you downloaded your package to the desktop10:09
joebros_smeril: so you should be in the Desktop directory10:09
sig_wal1why do you need java from official site? java installed from repository works fine..10:10
joebros_smeril: type "home/smeril/Desktop/jre-6u5-linux-i586.bin"10:10
blrguyhelloo10:14
blrguydoes kde4 need a p4 machine?10:14
eatThisAndDiedoesn't NEED it, but you'll be glad to have it10:16
joebros_kde4 needs a good vga however because it has lots of visual effects10:18
late-Commeroic so p4 is a must10:19
joebros_i think a good vga is a must10:19
joebros_you will definitely be amazed by the visual effects that kde4 has10:19
late-Commerok10:19
late-Commeric10:20
late-Commerbut it is very slow naa10:20
late-Commersome one in kde channel said kwin is slow and qqt4.4 is fast10:21
Roy_MuzzHi can anyone tell me where the fonts are kept int kubuntu. I have a problem with VNC not being able to find my fonts. Thanks10:21
joebros_true10:21
blrguybut kubuntu's installtion is nice10:24
blrguyfirst run live cd and then install10:25
blrguysimple10:25
theboschwerkt als een speer dankje wel10:26
theboschnu nog een beetje geluid :)10:27
theboschsoundblaster FX10:28
theboschof werkt die niet onder Ubuntu ??10:28
Odd-rationale!de | thebosch10:30
ubottuthebosch: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:30
advanced!compiz10:32
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion10:32
joebros__ubottu: do you have any idea if the compiz package is available on the kubuntu DVD release?10:33
ubottujoebros__: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:33
late-Commeris it true that gnome is considered enterprise not kde10:33
advancedpls tell me command how to install COmpiz Fusion ? I have Kubuntu Hardy herron10:33
joebros__advanced: get the compiz debian package and install it10:35
advancedwhere i can download ?10:35
late-Commeris it true that gnome is considered enterprise not kde10:36
joebros__advanced: add the following repository to /ect/apt/sources.list10:37
joebros__advanced: http://ppa.launchpad.net/amaranth/ubuntu feisty main universe10:37
sig_wal1feisty?10:37
joebros__advanced: then type: sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager10:37
advancedthx10:38
Odd-rationaleadvanced: compiz is in the hardy repos already10:40
advancedi have now10:40
advancedthx10:40
advanced!Cedega10:40
Odd-rationaleadvanced: no need to add the feisty repo...10:40
ubottucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega10:40
advanced!Wine10:40
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.10:40
advancedhmm10:40
advancedI need help how to play WoW in Linux10:40
Odd-rationaleadvanced: check the appdb10:41
Odd-rationale!appdb | advanced10:41
ubottuadvanced: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org10:41
advancedBut i have Cedega - illegal...because WINE dont works for me :-/10:41
Roeyadvanced:  that's because gnu/linux sucks.10:43
Roeyadvanced:  no youtube, no windows games.10:44
kuil_Roey: no youtube?10:44
Roeyadvanced:  for all its worth, when it comes to homey things... it doesn't work.10:44
Roeykuil_:  64-bit kubuntu? no chance in hell.10:44
kuil_ah.. haven't tried that10:44
kuil_I am running on an old laptop10:44
sig_wal1opera may use 32-bit plugins using 32-bit operapluginwrapper :)10:45
kuil_opera is the only browser in which I cannot play flash movies (or any flash stuff)10:45
kuil_:(10:45
sig_wal1flash9/10 seems to work in opera 9.5 beta210:46
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ct529Hi there10:48
ct529I need to recompile a package using a source from the repository. Could you please point me out to some documentation?10:48
theboschmeschien een dome vraag hoe krij ik een rpm bestand open ??10:48
Odd-rationalect529: if it is in the repos, you do not need to compile.10:49
Odd-rationalect529: you can try "sudo apt-get reinstall <packagename>"10:50
theboschthx10:50
ct529Odd-rationale: yes, they did a very silly thing, they upgraded the kernel, but *NOT* the virtualbox-ose kernel module package, so I need to recompile or the virtual machine(s) do not work anymore10:50
Odd-rationalect529: If it is not in the repos, then10:50
Odd-rationale!compile | ct52910:50
ubottuct529: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)10:50
jussi01!nl | thebosch10:53
ubottuthebosch: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl10:53
ct529Odd-rationale: the source is in the source repository, as virtualbox-ose-source, I need instructions to build and install using deb commands10:53
jussi01!rpm | thebosch10:53
ubottuthebosch: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)10:53
Odd-rationalect529: so you have a .deb but just need to install it?10:54
Odd-rationalect529: sudo dpkg -i <packagename>10:54
PeanutHorsthow do i get skype on amd64 kubuntu?10:55
Odd-rationalect529: or rather, sudo dpkg -i <pathtopackage>10:55
Odd-rationalePeanutHorst: try adding the medibuntu repos10:55
Odd-rationale!medibuntu | pea10:55
ubottupea: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org10:55
Odd-rationale!medibuntu | PeanutHorst10:55
ubottuPeanutHorst: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org10:55
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PeanutHorstOdd-rationale: will skype run as 64-bit?!10:59
Odd-rationalePeanutHorst: i think the medibuntu repos have a 64 bit version, not sure though....10:59
ct529Odd-rationale: no, I do not have a deb. I have a source package off the source package repositories.11:13
ct529Odd-rationale: it needs to be bult using some dpkg --build something or another, I do not remember anymore11:13
CactusWiZaRdhello11:22
CactusWiZaRdi installed Kubuntu few hours ago, and now i countered an problem11:22
joebros__CactusWiZaRd: what is it?11:23
CactusWiZaRdi have Seagate FreeAgent 500gb usb-hard drive, and kubuntu says it's empty, although there's stuff like movies, music etc.11:24
CactusWiZaRdwhere's the problem?11:24
joebros__What's the filesystem of the hard drive?11:25
CactusWiZaRdN11:25
CactusWiZaRdNTFS11:25
CactusWiZaRdin gnome it worked well, although i couldn't save anything there11:25
joebros__you may have to load the ntfs module in kubuntu11:26
joebros__true11:26
joebros__that's because ubuntu doesn't let you write on ntfs filessystem11:26
joebros__you need to install a third party package11:26
Jucato!ntfs-3g11:26
ubottuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions11:26
joebros__thanks Jucato11:26
Jucatohm.. forgot which one Ubuntu/Kubuntu comes with by default11:26
joebros__!ubuntu11:27
ubottuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com11:27
Jucato(I think Ubuntu has it installed and enabled by default, while Kubuntu only has it installed, but not enabled.. not sure for Hardy)11:27
CactusWiZaRdi had problems installing that when i used ubuntu, but then i decided to turn back on windows..11:27
leowhere can I download the usplash script for so files?11:29
CactusWiZaRd!ntfs11:29
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubottu NTFS-3g or /msg ubottu FUSE11:29
Oceania23I'm a new Linux-Kubuntu user- when I ran apt-get install firefox, it installed the 3.0b5 version. Is this unusual? I thought everything defaulted to stable11:31
joebros__Oceania23: the behavior is normal11:31
joebros__besides firefox 3 beta 5 is stable even though it is still beta11:32
Oceania23I am sure it's stable enough for use, I was just surprised to see a beta come down11:32
leohow can i change my ubuntu ultimate into kde11:36
DexterFhi11:38
DexterFso ubuntu is debian based - can one tell *which* debian? like, is latest 8.04/hardy based on debian/testing..?11:39
markus__hallo11:41
digitaloktayhallo11:42
markus__ich hätte da eine Frage zu den System-Diensten...ich benutze 8.0411:42
markus__es werden ja einige Dienste beim booten gestartet. so zb bei mir auch der acpid11:44
markus__Aber unter Status steht da bei mir, das der Dienst nicht läuft11:44
markus__warum?11:44
leois there a version of ubuntu ultimate in KDE 411:45
markus__what is the language in this channel?11:46
markus__german or english?11:46
joebros_i speak english11:46
joebros_;)11:46
ct529I cannot find the package with the files include/linux/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf11:46
ct529anyone with a clue?11:47
joebros_ct529: nope11:47
markus__at bootup some systemservices gets startet. e.g acpid...but if i look for the status of that service kubuntu tells me that this sevice is not running...why?11:49
joebros_markus__: maybe the service had a problem and then crashed11:49
markus__but there ar so many services getting startet and then they are not running11:50
joebros_markus__: maybe these services depend on each other11:51
markus__hehe acpid depends on alsa-utils ???11:51
joebros_:)11:52
markus__:)11:52
joebros_markus__: can u send the report that you get after calling "dmesg" on the console11:55
markus__ok one moment11:55
joebros_markus__: try "dmesg > log.txt"11:55
markus__how can i send you the txt-file?11:57
joebros_markus__: are you receiving my private messages?11:58
markus__if this means that there is some kind of a private chat-window...then no11:59
joebros_markus__: then upload it on rapidshare and put the link here12:00
joebros_markus__: rapidshare.de12:00
markus__direct file sharing within irc doesent work?12:01
joebros_markus__: it should work, why?12:01
markus__so i could send it to you this way12:02
joebros_markus__: of course12:02
markus__ok here is my dmesg log   http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/215592/12:06
joebros_markus__: ok i'm checking it12:07
markus__thank you12:07
joebros_markus__: "hub 5-0:1.0: connect-debounce failed, port 8 disabled"12:10
joebros_markus__: this message is repeated in the whole log12:10
markus__i know...but after one hour of uptime...sundently it stops to appear in the logfiles....i tryed to solve this, but i did not succeed12:12
markus__it seams to be a problem with my bluetooth device12:12
joebros_markus__: ok12:13
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joebros_markus__: weird i couldn't find anything wrong in the log file12:13
joebros_can anyone help on markus__ case???12:14
silverpowerAnybody here have the legacy nVidia drivers working for them? This nForce1 (integrated GF2) is driving me up the wall... :(12:14
joebros_markus__: one more question. What kind of processor do you have?12:15
markus__i think that the "not running" acpid has the sideeffect that my system do not switch of after shutdown12:15
markus__i got a Pentium M @ 2Ghz12:16
joebros_markus__: this could be12:16
thisitittry reseting the cmos12:16
markus__sure?12:16
markus__in winXP i got no Problems with acpi12:17
markus__so i think that bios is ok12:18
joebros_markus__: which version of ubuntu do you have?12:18
markus__8.0412:18
joebros_markus__: i have no clue :(12:19
markus__:)12:19
markus__i try to compare with my other notebook...then i post the result12:20
joebros_markus__: try using a diff tool when comparing12:21
markus__have a look on this first please   http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=servicesjpgkg8.png12:28
markus__there you can see what i mean12:29
joebros_markus__: i saw the picture, can u please explain in english12:29
markus__explain what?12:30
joebros_markus__: what's written, I mean what does "Ja" or "Nein" mean?12:30
markus__ja = yes    Nein=no  :-)12:31
joebros_what does lauft nicht mean?12:31
markus__explain more?12:31
markus__that means: doesen't run12:32
joebros_waw12:32
markus__waw?12:33
joebros_u have a bunch of services that doesn't run12:33
markus__yes...that is mysterious :)12:33
joebros_:)12:34
markus__but with my other notebook it is the same12:34
joebros_the same services status?12:34
markus__yes12:34
joebros_weird12:34
JackWinteri have some dvds that are Mac/PC.  on xp no problems to access the disks.  when i try from kubuntu i'm denied access unless i access them as root ?12:34
markus__ist there a way to check the status of a service within the console12:35
joebros_markus__: yes there is. Type ps -A12:35
joebros_!ps12:35
ubottuFactoid ps not found12:35
markus__ok then i got i list of all the services, but i can't see the status12:37
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markus__ok then i got i list of all the services, but i can't see the status12:46
holyguyver_!apt-fix12:52
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »12:52
Longany spanish ONO client?12:56
joebros_markus__: everything you see when executing "ps" is running12:59
joebros_markus__: what you don't see, means that it is not running12:59
Dr_willisunless of course you see a Zombie task.. :) then its  sort of not-running-but-it-was.13:18
Dr_willisI never have found a good doc on explaining that.13:18
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eagles0513875summmmmmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr13:37
Picioffffftopiccccc13:38
jdavies-e/dev/randommmmm13:39
pteaguemore updates for ssh again today?13:42
eagles0513875lol13:45
eagles0513875Pici: sry im just happy13:45
eagles0513875now i can focus on alot of my projects now13:46
benHey guys, I have a question. First day running kubuntu, and usually on the computer (windows os) I run a program called SwiftKit to play an online game called Runescape. I use the IRC chat in there to talk to friends, was wondering how to connect to those same channels?13:49
ScorpKing-Laptophi guys. i had some bad RAM in my box and it corrupted a lot of files on my disk. fschk ran and now some files are missing. is there a way to get it back?13:53
Dr_willisben if you know the name of the irc server, and channel, about any irc client should work13:53
ScorpKing-Laptop!ext314:02
ubottuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org14:02
eagles0513875ScorpKing-Laptop: u can get rw access to a ntfs partition using ntfs-3g as well14:03
eagles0513875!ntfs-3g | ScorpKing-Laptop14:03
ubottuScorpKing-Laptop: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions14:03
ScorpKing-Laptopeagles0513875: i want to restore my ext3 filesystem to a previous state14:04
eagles0513875ScorpKing-Laptop: gotcha wish i could help ya with that14:04
mm_202Hey guys, quick question.  The Apt updates, where can I find a changelog for them??14:05
mm_202I know that the packages have a 'changelog' section, but its usually blank..14:05
ScorpKing-Laptopmm_202: somewhere in /var/log/ i think14:06
eagles0513875mm_202: if u wanna see the changelog of a pkg u have to dl the source14:06
eagles0513875mm_202: of a particular pkg that is14:06
mm_202hrm, well there was an update to xorg, I really dont want to DL the source, just want to see the changelog.  Its not posted anywhere online??14:07
mm_202ScorpKing-Laptop: I'll look.14:07
jhutchinsScorpKing-Laptop: Restore from your backup.  That's what backups are for.14:07
ScorpKing-Laptopjhutchins: only if you make them ;)14:08
jhutchinsmm_202: Check the xorg site.14:08
mm_202jhutchins: k..14:08
* Dr_willis makes a prediction on what the new FAQ will be for the #ubuntu and #kubuntu channel in just a few days...... 14:09
Dr_willisjust saw a news artical ---->  Adobe Flash Player 10 For Linux14:09
pagDr_willis, happen to have a link to the news?14:10
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Dr_willishttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjQ3Nw14:10
pagthank you14:10
Dr_willisDoes it seemto anyone else that Flash is becoming what 'JAVA' was supposed to become?14:11
Dr_willisHmm.. You can run the beta of 10... OR run  9. :) bet we will see a lot of 'i installed flash 10 beta , now how do i remove it' soon also. :)14:12
eagles0513875Dr_willis: what u mean14:12
JucatoI think he means that it's a very good matter for discussion in #kubuntu-offtopic ;)14:13
Dr_williseagles0513875,  about the java bit? years ago when java was new. it was 'supposed' to allow all this flexibilty and  useabilty and neat things in web browsers.  I recall java video players, and games, and other things.. seems flash has taken over.14:13
eagles0513875ya14:13
Dr_willisGetting the Future FAQ ready! :)14:13
eagles0513875well java is still used for programs they even got a os in the works14:13
eagles0513875and there is java script for websites14:13
eagles0513875applets14:14
eagles0513875the write once run anywhere motto still lives on14:14
crsHello. :)14:14
Dr_willisjava script is not 'java' :) seen MANY a fight over that distinction.14:15
Dr_willishay crs14:15
crsI'm new here, 'd like to say hello to all of you :)14:15
mm_202Welcome to the cult, crs :)14:15
holyguyver_So when launching firefox if it crashes & terminal says 'Segmentation fault (core dumped)' what does that mean?14:15
Dr_williscrs,  great! dont flirt too much with the bot :)14:15
Dr_willis!hi | crs14:15
ubottucrs: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!14:15
crsHmm, what is my root passwd? ;-)14:15
Dr_willisFaq Top 10! :P14:15
pag!root | crs14:16
ubottucrs: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo14:16
mm_202lol14:16
crs;-)14:16
crsFunny. ;)14:16
crsI am gentoo user for about 6 years by now. :)14:16
mm_202Guys, a serious question.  How hard would it be to update my system from the standard x86 version of Kubuntu 8.04 to the 64bit version?14:17
crsBut i am quite tired of compilations (my computer isint too fast and any compilations take ages. ;()14:17
* mm_202 is still pissed that he can only use 3.18GB of his 4GB...14:17
jhutchinsmm_202: Why?  What do you need to do that needs 64b support?14:17
pagmm_202, 'update'? pretty damn hard afaik.. reinstall is million times easier.14:17
Dr_willismm_202,  even on a 64bit disrto SOME of that ram may not be useable.14:17
mm_202one sec guys.14:18
holyguyver_So when launching firefox if it crashes & terminal says 'Segmentation fault (core dumped)' what does that mean?14:18
Dr_willisbut perhaps you wont be loseing .82 gb14:18
jhutchinsmm_202: Your system is using the rest of that RAM for reserved tasks.14:18
Dr_willisholyguyver_,  means its crashing badly.. which is weird.14:18
crsI have just received newest kubuntu cd :)14:18
crsThanks Canonical. ;-)14:18
mm_202On my 32bit build of Kubuntu:  (with 4GB of RAM)14:19
mm_202sergei@mm:/data/home/sergei$ cat /proc/meminfo14:19
mm_202MemTotal:      3368912 kB14:19
mm_202MemFree:       2598732 kB14:19
holyguyver_Dr_Willis well it says that every single time I try to start firefox14:19
mm_202On my 64bit build:14:19
mm_202sergei@terra:~$ cat /proc/meminfo14:19
mm_202MemTotal:      4059264 kB14:19
mm_202MemFree:       1966872 kB14:19
jhutchinsholyguyver_: You are running an unstable beta test version of firefox and it has created a file containing an image of your RAM at the time of the crash.  This file will be named core<something> in the current working directory.14:19
mm_202~640MB of RAM..14:19
pagmm_202, 'free -m' gives better info (but don't paste it here - use pastebin if you must)14:20
holyguyver_jhutchins no I am running firefox 2.014:20
Dr_willisholyguyver_,  thats not suprising. You could try as a test. either try it under a new/different user, or move your .mozilla dir somewhere, so you have no old firefox settings. and see if it works.14:20
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DaemonLeeProblem.14:20
Dr_willisholyguyver_,  if it dosent crash then.  It would point to a extension crashing.14:20
DaemonLeeI cannot get my Synaptic Touchpad to work, and I've followed the instructions to a T.14:20
Dr_willisOther then that. Not sure what to even check/debug for firefox.14:20
holyguyver_Dr_Willis no I am running firefox 2.014:20
eagles0513875DaemonLee: this has it and it works out of the box for me14:20
jhutchinsholyguyver_: Heh.  Well, it still applies.  firefox is always a work in progress, but Dr_willis is right, it's probably an extension.14:20
eagles0513875DaemonLee: did u do an upgrade from gutsy to hard or is this a clean install14:20
holyguyver_But look14:21
Dr_willisand the version wouldent matter. :)14:21
DaemonLeeClean install.14:21
DaemonLee8.04 Kubuntu.14:21
eagles0513875interesting14:21
eagles0513875u doing kde4 remix14:21
DaemonLeeI don't believe so...14:21
DaemonLeeNo. I'm not.14:21
eagles0513875ok14:21
eagles0513875interesting what kinda machine u on14:21
mm_202pag: heh, yeah, free -m is much better.  And I know better than to paste large amounts, but didnt think 3 lines would hurt.14:21
eagles05138753 lines doesnt anything more does14:22
holyguyver_Dr_Willis & jhutchins but look what I did before I came in here jack@jack-desktop:~$ firefox -profilemanager (next line) Segmentation fault (core dumped)14:22
DaemonLeeEagle, a DV6353US HP laptop, 2.0ghz Turion x2, 2gb of RAM, and misc from there.14:23
mm_202jhutchins: are you trying to say that besides the little bit of RAM, that the benefits of running the 64bit version is close to zero?14:23
Dr_willisholyguyver_,  that would imply either currupted binary, or libs, or memory.   Try making a new user and see I guess, Other then that. no idea.14:23
pagmm_202, for average user I'd say there are more cons than pros when it coms to running 64bit14:24
* mm_202 isnt average ;)14:24
holyguyver_Dr_Willis I can't make a new user because when I ask it to open the firefox profile manager it crashes.14:24
mm_202Okay, could you give me the 'cons'?14:24
mm_202Or point me to a url..14:24
pagmm_202, usally there are problems with closed source apps, but if you don't use them, then there shouldn't be much problems.. (at least what I have noticed.)14:25
mm_202I think that Flash and Java are the only closed source apps I use.  (and I know that java works fine on 64b)14:26
Pennycookmm_202: As a 64 bit user, there are quite a few problems with both Flash /and/ Java from my experience.  I'm only still on 64 bit at the moment 'caus I don't fancy a reinstall.14:27
mm_202ah14:28
DaemonLeeProblem: Synaptic Touchpad does not work, is appearing in Xorg.conf file, qsynaptics and shmconfig state that they either do not have access, or there is no driver installed for touchpad.14:28
Pennycookmm_202: There's no 64 bit package for Java Web Start afaik, some embedded Java apps don't work and Flash videos occasionally just don't work for no reason.14:28
mm_202Well Im running Ubuntu 8.04 64bit on a server, so no X.  And its been perfect.  I run Openfire (which is Java-based) as my jabber server and zero problems.14:29
mm_202hmm14:29
* mm_202 might wait then..14:29
crsOk, I want to install nvidia dirvers. Im trying to run hardware drivers manager, but it is asking me for root password, what should i do?14:30
Pennycookmm_202: Ah, if it's a server I imagine it's okay.  Java works absolutely fine by itself, it's the plugins for browsers and such that are shaky.14:31
DaemonLeecrs, type in your password.14:31
crsDaemonLee: Mine, ok, thanks :)14:31
crsbrb14:33
josh_if I have amarok running and I try to play a video in mplayer it says unable to initialize audio unless I run mplayer from terminal window. any idea how I can fix this?14:35
jhutchinsmm_202: The fact that you don't know what your system is using that ram for - and it -is- using it - indicates that you're probably not using the system at a level that would benefit in anyway from running 64b.  If you were, you'd know.  It's a little more complex and difficult to get everything working on 64b, and there just aren't anybenefits to most users.14:35
Dr_williscrs,  its tecnhicially asking for the 'sudoers' password.14:36
jhutchins!root | crs14:36
ubottucrs: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo14:36
Steve-calWhen I create a desktop shortcut to run a bash script, I've noticed that my taskbar shows the bash script running continuously for about 20-30 seconds (along with the "bouncing icon" near my mouse pointer), even though the script executes virtually immediately (which I confirm by running it in a terminal). This goes for every script (no matter how simple/trivial) that I run from a shortcut....14:37
Steve-cal...What's going on here?14:37
eagles0513875Steve-cal: whats the purpose of ur script14:38
josh_nm just figured it out. set amarok to alsa now all is good14:38
jhutchinsSteve-cal: The bash script doesn't truely interact with the desktop, doesn't give it feedback that it's done.14:38
jhutchinsjoschan: Make sure that both Amarok and mplayer are using alsa shared audio.14:38
JucatoSteve-cal: it's the setting for Launch Feedback (bouncing icon and taskbar notification). you can turn it off for your desktop shortcut to the script (depending on how you made it)14:38
Steve-caljhutchins: How can my bash script tell the desktop it is done? I can end my script with "exit 0" and it doesn't help.14:39
jhutchinsSteve-cal: I believe you need to use dcop to communicate with the system, and it would probably be much more complex than the script is now.14:40
JucatoSteve-cal: how did you create the shortcut?14:40
Steve-calJucato: Instead of turning it off entirely, I would prefer if my script could somehow let the desktop know when it is done. Any way to do that?14:40
Jucatoah. that I don't know..14:41
Steve-calJucato: For instance, right-clicking desktop, "Create new...", "link to application..."14:42
JucatoSteve-cal: yeah.. but the way I was going to propose was to turn it off for that script. I'm not sure if there's a way to signal knotify to stop the notification14:42
Jucatowhat you can probably do is to shorten the notification length14:42
Jucatorun "kcontrol" and go to Appearance & Themes -> Launch Feedback14:43
Steve-calJucato, jhutchins: I've never seen this happen in Gnome though--I don't have the problem there. Is this KDE specific?14:43
JucatoGnome doesn't have the same notification system as KDE...14:43
CLEARviewFhi, do anybody know why can i not see my Genre icon on mi Collection in Amarok over Ubuntu Gnome? i installed kdebase-data but, after that i just can see Artist and Album icon but still not the Genre icon.14:44
Steve-calJucato: I'm using KDE 3.5, which I installed over my Ubuntu install (also installed KDE-desktop), and I don't have anything under kcontrol other than "network". I've always used "systemsettings" for most things. Do you happen to know how I can get everything to display in kcontrol?14:46
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Jucatohow did you install KDE?14:46
Jucatoor you can try running "kcmshell kcmlaunch" directly14:47
kalorinso is anyone using 8.04 with the KDE 4 stuff?14:47
Jucatokalorin: those people in #kubuntu-kde414:47
* kalorin goes there14:47
kalorinthanks14:47
Steve-calJucato: It's been a few months ago, so I don't remember exactly, but if some things are missing in kcontrol, how can I add them to kcontrol? Did I miss installing a necessary package maybe?14:49
Jucatoperahps. but if systemsettings is populated with entries, then kcontrol should be working as well. but I can't really be sure since I don't know how you installed KDE14:50
CLEARviewFhi, do anybody know why can i not see my Genre icon on mi Collection in Amarok over Ubuntu Gnome? i installed kdebase-data but, after that i just can see Artist and Album icon but still not the Genre icon.14:51
Steve-calJucato: I think I just followed some online guide that told me all the KDE packages to install in Synaptic. That's all I did.14:51
emilsedghCLEARviewF: Genre icon? i've never seen such thing14:52
advancedhi14:52
Steve-calJucato: That's why I think I could be missing some necessary package...14:52
advancedi need help again :-D14:52
advancedWhere i can get full theme for Kubuntu Hardy Heron ?14:52
crskubuntu seems to be easy :)14:52
crsI think I'll stick to it for a while. ;-)14:53
advancedI want to change full system screen14:53
advancedplease explain14:53
shane___Odd-rationale: r u on14:54
eagles0513875what c++ ide's r out there14:54
crsHow can I easly install compiz-fuzion?14:55
Jucatoeagles0513875: KDevelop, code::blocks, Eclipse (plugin?), Anjuta (spelling?), emacs & vim (hehehe)14:55
shane___where can i get a game pack like the ones available on ubuntu14:55
Jucatoand kate (semi-IDE)14:55
Steve-calJucato: any ideas? :)14:55
Jucatoshane___: what game pack?14:55
eagles0513875Jucato: i have eclips but its just java14:56
Jack111hi i have a problem since the hardy upgrade the firefox 3.5 freezes&terribly slow, but couldnt find any fix..any idea?14:56
emilsedghkdegames!14:56
advanced!compiz14:56
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion14:56
emilsedgh!info kdegames14:56
ubottukdegames (source: kdegames): games from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 21 kB, installed size 72 kB14:56
Jucatoeagles0513875: it has a plugin for C++ support I believe14:56
poison!ntfs14:56
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubottu NTFS-3g or /msg ubottu FUSE14:56
JucatoSteve-cal: only a vague one, but first, does "kcmshell kcmlaunch" work?14:56
shane___add remove app on ubuntu has many games on kubuntu there is none i have just installed kubuntu and my daughter wants her games back lol14:56
eagles0513875Jucato: i know if u dont load the biggest version of netbeans it does c++ besides java14:56
Coder2Hello14:56
crsadvanced: thanks :)14:56
eagles0513875they also releasing a php version of netbeans14:56
emilsedghshane___: install kdegames package14:56
Steve-calJucato: Yes, it does pull up the module successfully.14:57
shane___ok TY14:57
advancedsudo apt-get install compiz-fusion14:57
JucatoSteve-cal: oh ok. so the modules are all there, but kcontrol isnt' showing anything except network?14:57
Steve-calJucato: exactly.14:57
JucatoSteve-cal: ah clueless there. sorry14:57
crsWhere can I find more repos?14:57
Coder2Does anyone deal with TomCat? I've installed it, it works, but there are no logs at all. Any ideas?14:57
Steve-calJucato: No problem... I'll check in the forums and see if I can come up with something. BTW, how do I access "kcontrol" from my K menu? What's it called and under which menu is it?14:58
emilsedghSteve-cal: sorry, have you tried Settings:/ from konqueror?14:59
JucatoSteve-cal: it's not in the kmenu in Kubuntu unless you manually add it (right-click on the K Menu icon and select Edit menu)14:59
shane___emilsedgh: in the add remove app or where do i find it add remove doesnt comeup withany games14:59
eagles0513875Jucato: what php ide14:59
eagles0513875Jucato: what php ide's r out there if any14:59
* Jucato would not recommend using kioslaves that are gone in KDE 4...15:00
emilsedghshane___: use the Adept manager please.15:00
Jucatoeagles0513875: I don't know.. sorry15:00
shane___ok15:00
* Jucato doesn't do PHP15:00
emilsedgheagles0513875: Quanta+15:00
eagles0513875emilsedgh: ty15:00
Steve-calJucato: No? I have to add kcontrol manually to my K menu? I used another distro with KDE 3.5 and it was in the menu somewhere I remember.15:00
eagles0513875trying to get stuff i need to help me get my to do list of what i wanna teach myself started15:00
emilsedghJucato: if you meant the Settings:/, its not gone15:01
crseasy and fast way to install kde4? ;-)15:01
Jucatoemilsedgh: in KDE 4?15:01
emilsedghyeah Jucato15:01
Jucato!kde4 | crs15:01
ubottucrs: KDE 4.0.4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde415:01
Jucatoemilsedgh: really? doesn't work here (trunk)15:02
crsJucato: What about svn?15:02
emilsedghJucato: but its so broken!15:02
Jucatocrs: you will have to compile15:02
crsJucato: no snapshots?15:02
emilsedghJucato: im on trunk too.it comes up, but with broken icons and just categories, inside them is empty15:02
Jucatocrs: not at this moment15:02
Jucatoemilsedgh: only applications:/ work here. no settings:/15:03
crsJucato: ok, thanks :)15:03
emilsedghJucato: do you want a shot if you are curious to see how it looks? :D15:03
Jucatoemilsedgh: although it doesn't say unknown protocol, unlike media:/15:03
Jucatono thanks.15:03
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crshmm what next... ;-)15:06
CLEARviewFhi, does anybody know why i can not see my Genre icons in my Amarok Collection in ubuntu gnome?15:07
CLEARviewFnobody knows about that?15:08
xt828_CLEARviewF: try #ubuntu15:10
CLEARviewFnobody answer me there :( xt828_15:10
xt828_CLEARviewF: or #amarok15:10
eagles0513875xt828_: just in there its dead15:11
CLEARviewFi did on #amarok, but they told me to install kdebase-data15:11
xt828_so did you?15:11
CLEARviewFxt828_: when i did that, i have only the Artist and Album icons, but not the genre icon, and it is the main icon on my collection15:12
crsWhy compiz fusion works faster on kubutnu than on my gentoo? ;-)15:12
crsWhy everything seems to work faster?15:12
xt828_what did they say in response to that?15:12
CLEARviewFi will ask that xt828_ :D15:13
lovreis there anyone from Germany here? I need some help?15:15
crshow can i search for packages ready to install?15:16
crsavailable to install?15:16
crslike: <search command> fusion15:16
SlimeyPeteapt-cache search fusion15:16
SlimeyPeteor use adept15:16
myk_robinson!apcupsd15:21
ubottuFactoid apcupsd not found15:21
moamahihi all I've installed kubuntu 8.04 in beta version, now I've updated all. My kde is 3.5.9 but I'd like to switch to 4.0. Could someone tell me how? thank you15:28
crsHmm, that is weird. Can anyone explain me why fusion compiz is working far slower why is started by fusion-icon?15:29
blackwaltz__moamahi: First of all, if you've installed a beta version of it, I'd recommend upgrading as soon as you can. Second, install the "kubuntu-kde4-desktop" package to install kde4. The binaries will be in /usr/lib/kde4/bin/ ... and it will co-exist with KDE3 :)15:34
Jucato!kde4 | moamahi15:34
ubottumoamahi: KDE 4.0.4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde415:34
Jucatomoamahi: and you don't actually "switch" to kde4. kde4 will be installed side by side with kde3 (for now)15:34
blackwaltz__moamahi: oh, and one more thing. Config will be located at ~/.kde4 for kde4 apps.15:34
moamahithank you all Now i set it up15:35
crsI must say, it works. :)15:39
danny_does anyone know if is possible to run camfrog on linux?15:41
finn_hh15:41
finn_hhh15:41
finn_hello15:41
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tzangergood morning15:44
tzangerI've got a quick (I hope) apt question15:44
crsafternoon here. ;-)15:45
BluesKaj'morning15:45
tzangerwhenever I use apt-get to installs omething, I get a big long list of packages it wants to remove (packages were automatically installed and no longer required) -- except that the packages look rather important15:45
tzangerdo I apt-get autoremove and hope for the best, or is there something i can do to tell apt that it's wrong?15:45
tzangerI mean python-crypto, python-twisted-*... I'm pretty sure I have apps that rely on it15:46
rysiekguys I need a fast one here15:54
rysiekopera (32bit :/) on a 64bit hardy15:54
rysiekwhat do I need15:55
xsacharysiek: get opera 64-bit on 64-bit hardy ( i use this)16:00
xsachaflash works fine on it16:00
rysiekxsacha: erm, how16:01
xsachajust download the .deb from opera site (ill get you a link)16:01
rysiekxsacha: I can't find such a download on opera.com16:01
xsacharysiek: http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/snapshot-1962/x86_64-linux/16:01
xsachadownload the .deb file rysiek16:02
jeroen-i used standbye, but how to come back?16:02
BluesKajxsacha, you got 64bit Opera working on flash sites ..how did you manage that ?16:02
arvind_khadrihi , am not able to view the other person's cam in kopete,the other person is using windows..Kopete just crashes as i accept the request to view it16:02
rysiekxsacha: oh, great, thanks16:02
xsachaBluesKaj: i used nspluginwrapper on the 32-bit flash plugin16:02
xsacharysiek: then once you have downloaded, it's just:     dpkg -i filename16:03
xsachait unpacks and wahlah16:03
guilleproblem trying kubuntu 8.04 installer16:03
xsachaBluesKaj: you are probably using opera 9.27 where flash has problems. all 9.5 versions, 64-bit flash works perfectly16:04
xsachathat is 32-bit flash on 64-bit browser16:04
rysiekxsacha: yeah, I know my ways with dpkg, I am using Linux for a few years ;)16:04
xsachaok :)16:04
BluesKajxsacha, did you install the nspluginwrapper globally or *.so in the Opera plugins file ?16:04
rysiekxsacha: I just needed the download link16:04
Steve-calIn a normal Kubuntu install, where does one access "kcontrol" (KDE Control Center) from the K menu?16:04
rysiekxsacha: thanks a lot, much appreciated16:04
rysiekSteve-cal: K->System Settings16:04
xsachaBluesKaj: umm installed nspluginwrapper, then downloaded flash plugin from adobe website (i could have just installed flash-nonfree), then i ran nswrapper on libflashplugin. then i copied it to opera directory16:05
xsachaa lot of unneccessary steps though16:05
guilleafter loading, livecd crashes showing something like a "X" at the middle-screen16:05
xsachaopera plugin directory..16:05
Steve-calsysiek: Kmenu > System Settings is for the program "systemsettings", not "kcontrol"....16:05
guilleProblem trying kubuntu 8.04 installer. After loading, livecd crashes showing something like a "X" at the middle-screen. I cannot reinstall16:06
xsacharysiek: no problems,.. this new 9.5 version is really fast :) made me switch from firefox to opera :D16:06
rysiekSteve-cal: ah, well, AFAIK the (old-style) kcontrol isn't installed by default16:07
rysiekSteve-cal: sudo aptitude install kcontrol16:07
_r1_hi16:07
_r1_which version of kubuntu will be the LTS one ?16:08
hydrogenyea opera9.5 is very impressive16:08
hydrogen_r1_ not sure if thats known yet16:08
rysiekSteve-cal: plus, I can't seem to locate a K-Menu item for it AFTER the installation, so you might want to create one yourself (dunno why they didn't put it in the package)16:08
rysiekSteve-cal: or you can just alt-f2 run kcontrol16:08
_r1_hydrogen: not a discussion about next one ?16:09
Steve-calrysiek: I have kcontrol installed, thanks, I was just surprised why it doesn't seem to be in my K menus anywhere. Is this the same for everyone else here?16:09
_r1_cause it will be difficult to maintain ubuntu AND kubuntu as LTS if it's different versions16:09
hydrogenyes16:10
hydrogenwhich may mean that it waaits three years for another LTS16:10
hydrogennot sure16:10
xsachaSteve-cal: yeah when they replaced it with systemsettings, they removed it from menu too16:10
rysiekthey should have left the *.theme file in the package though16:10
xsacha_r1_: well 8.04 is definitely not LTS16:10
guilleProblem trying kubuntu 8.04 installer. After loading, livecd crashes showing something like a "X" at the middle-screen. I cannot reinstall16:10
rysiekso that when the package gets installed by hand one gets a menu entry for it16:10
* rysiek brb16:11
Steve-calxsacha: I don't get it then--systemsettings doesn't seem to have everything that kcontrol does... why wouldn't we need both?16:11
_r1_xsacha: I know that. And it's not my question :)16:11
xsacha_r1_: i think they are just skipping this LTS16:11
xsachatheyll still be in sync16:12
_r1_mmm I have listen that it will be another version as LTS16:12
xsachaSteve-cal: yeah, it should have everything but it doesnt. they decided to replace kcontrol though16:12
Odd-rationaleshane__: hey there, im on for a bit...16:12
Steve-calxsacha: So you're saying they don't want us to be able to configure some of the things kcontrol lets us configure? :)16:13
xsachathey just havent put it in to systemsettings yet. i guess a lack of developers on it16:14
xsachait was a kubuntu creation though wasnt it16:14
crswhere can i find some more repos?16:14
xsachacrs: have you enabled universe and the rest in manage repositories? what package are you looking for in particular?16:15
Steve-calxsacha, rysiek: Well anyway, thanks for the help... Ciao...16:16
phoenixzI have a process running called "b43".. it takes quite some recourses, but I have no clue what it is.. Anybody knows it?16:16
guilleProblem trying kubuntu 8.04 installer. After loading, livecd crashes showing something like a "X" at the middle-screen. I cannot reinstall16:17
crsxsacha: Nothing in particular now... Where can I enable universe? ;-)16:17
xsachaadept_manager->manage repositories16:17
crsxsacha: di uncomment it in /etc/apt/sources.list16:20
xsachacrs: just use the frontend: adept_manager16:20
shane__Odd-rationale: how can i connect the 2 machines together remote desktop style i want to transfer all pics and files onto the one we fixed last night and put kubuntu on it also16:20
xsachamuch safer, but if you are ok with it, yes, its in /etc/apt/sources.list16:20
Odd-rationaleshane__: set up an ssh and use the fish:/ protocol16:20
crsxsacha: Im quite literate with linux, just never used ubuntu before. ;-)16:21
xsachaoh ok16:21
xsachayeah uncomment any commented repositories in there16:21
crsHave spent about 6 years with gentoo. :>16:21
xsachacrs: the GUI does give some better options though, like choosing the country for your repository server16:22
shane__Odd-rationale: ok how do i set ssh and what is fish protocol newby remember16:22
crsOh i see. How can i change default system wide language? ;-)16:22
Odd-rationaleshane__: ok. lets define some terms. the server will be the computer with the files on it. the client will be the computer on which you want to put the files on. ok?16:23
crsI have changed my pripary language, but i'd like to go with english now :)16:23
shane__Odd-rationale: ok16:23
Odd-rationaleshane__: so on the server, install the openssh-server "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"16:23
Odd-rationaleshane__: got that?16:25
shane__Odd-rationale: ok i got that ill do that now16:25
shane__Odd-rationale: brb16:26
cqis kde4 recommendable already, or stay with the kde3 from 8.04? I wouldn't mind features and eyecandy, but above all I want stability and usability16:26
Odd-rationalecq: if you want stability and usability, use kde316:27
Odd-rationalecq: kde4 is quite stable. it is simply missing in many respects...16:27
crscq: wait for kde 4.116:27
shane__Odd-rationale: ok that is done got fresh shane@ line16:27
cqwhen is 4.1 due?16:28
crscpk1: July16:28
Odd-rationaleshane__: ok. now in the client, open konqueror (our favorite kde all in ont tool ;)16:28
cqno problem... i read that 4.0 was supposed to get out and 4.1 to complete it essentially... thanks16:28
deeveranyone here with 8.04-kde4 on virtualbox and a screen resolution >800x600 ?16:28
crscq: yes, more or less it looks like that. Just wait for 4.1 which should be ready for desktops.16:29
Odd-rationalekde 4.0 was kind of just like a release for all the application developers to port/test their apps over to kde4.... that the way i look at it...16:29
shane__Odd-rationale: ok16:29
Odd-rationaleshane__: to make things easier, go to Window --> split left/right16:29
crsWhat is the easiest way to update kernel in ubuntu? Do i have to compile it by myself or just install newer version from package?16:30
Odd-rationaleshane__: then in the address bar, type in fish://<your_user_name_on_the_server>@<server_ip_address>16:31
Odd-rationaleshane__: do the above in the client...16:32
shane__Odd-rationale: ok where can i find ip on server16:32
Odd-rationaleshane__: on the server, do ifconfig16:32
shane__Odd-rationale: ok brb16:32
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Odd-rationaleshane__: you should find a inet address in your ethernet entry (not lo)16:33
xsachaprobably want the network ip so you dont have to forward ports on router...   192.168.x.xxx?16:34
shane__Odd-rationale: oh beautifull that was so easy16:35
shane__Odd-rationale: TY once again16:35
Odd-rationaleshane__: yup, just drag and drop between the two panes...16:35
guilleProblem trying kubuntu 8.04 installer. After loading, livecd crashes showing something like a "X" at the middle-screen. I cannot reinstall16:36
crsguille: that X is a cursor a suppose...16:36
Odd-rationaleshane__: you'll soon love konqueror's split windows...16:36
crsI16:36
shane__Odd-rationale: ok TY and ill talk at yah next time uv made changing over a breeze and i apreciat it lots16:36
Odd-rationaleshane__: sure. feel free to drop me a line in my channel. you know the channel...16:37
shane__Odd-rationale: yah but i need a link thing everytime i try the side panel to acces and it gives me a spam message16:38
xsachashane__: you can Save View Profile.. then when you want to do that same thing in konqueror, you Load View Profile and its straight back16:38
Odd-rationaleshane__: hmm. try typing in konversation "/join #Odd-rationale"16:39
Odd-rationaleshane__: don't click. try typing....16:39
shane__Odd-rationale: ok i got yah in my conect tab now ty16:40
grendal_primeam i the only person haveing a hard time with the nvidia perpriatory drivers?16:42
cqhm, can you run an existing windows installation in vbox, or does it need a new isntallation? I only have OEM Images...16:42
guillecrs: but installation doesn't continue.16:42
xsachagrendal_prime: they are proprietary, so probably everyone is having trouble with them :)16:42
xsachaproblems when you change kernel and so on16:43
yb5hey guys16:44
yb5i have a question16:45
yb5i want to edit my "DVD autoplay menu" and add an entry for "Play DVD with VLC Player"16:46
yb5can someone hook me up with the parameter for vlc??16:46
grendal_primewell, ok what kernel works with nvida drivers then..or is there an opensource one...16:48
xsachayou dont really have a choice with nvidia, that one you have is the best. just tell us what your problem is :)16:49
yb5nobody any idea?16:50
xsachayb5: didnt quite get what you wanted16:50
xsachaan entry when you stick the dvd in dvd drive?16:51
grendal_primewhen the perpriatory driver gets installed  i reboot the machine and i get a constantly changing white gray screen with a black/gray line done the middle/right side of the screen16:51
yb5xsacha: i want to edit my DVD autoplay menu and add an entry for "Play DVD with VLC"16:51
yb5but i dont know the parameter for vlc16:51
xsachayb5: you mean like... vlc dvd://dev/dvd ?16:52
yb5yes something like that16:53
ubuntu_salut le peuple16:53
yb5i will try that16:53
xsachayb5: in VLC, you can define your 'default' dvd device.. if you have done so, it is simply:   vlc dvd://16:53
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yb5there is an error promt saying /media/NAME_OF_THE_DVD is a folder. file expected16:55
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xsachayb5: with dvd://dev/dvd ?16:55
yb5yes16:55
xsachawhat about just dvd:// ?16:55
yb5try it16:56
guilleProblem trying kubuntu 8.04 installer. After loading, livecd crashes showing something like a "X" at the middle-screen. I cannot reinstall16:56
deeveranyone here with 8.04-kde4 on virtualbox and a screen resolution >800x600 ?16:56
xsachayb5: both work here but maybe because i have the default dvd device set in VLC. you could try doing that16:57
yb5xsacha: same error16:57
yb5xsacha: where is the default dvd device setting in vlc?17:00
xsachaFile->Open Disc...         Disk Device: /dev/dvd17:00
yb5wait i'll try something else17:01
yb5i found /dev/scd017:01
grendal_primexsacha: so...any advice on a way around that?17:01
xsachagrendal_prime: dont know, i down own any nvidia cards sorry.. was hoping someone else would help you17:02
JabopPossibly stupid question: is there a config I could get to enable syntax highlighting in bash.17:02
xsachabash.. or vim Jabop?17:03
Jabopvim17:03
yb5grendal_prime: your problem17:03
ziperonнарод как настроить hotkey на кбунту?17:03
xsachaJabop: yeah i believe there are17:03
yb5grendal_prime: whats your problem?17:03
Jabopxsacha: Excuse my lack of knowledge, I just moved to Kubuntu :P17:04
xsachaJabop: have you tried ... :syntax on?17:04
Dr_willisIm not sure how syntax highighting in bash would work.17:04
xsachaDr_willis: me either lol thats why i figured it was vim17:04
Dr_willis :)  for vim - you MOST likely want to install the vim-full package.17:04
xsachaJabop: what did you move from? surely it had vim too right?17:04
Dr_willisand enable the syntax thing as default in the vimrc17:04
Jabopxsacha: fc817:04
Dr_willisi do think that the 'fish' shell had some sort of syntax highliging.17:04
ziperonpeopls pleas help my don't vork hot keys in kubuntu17:05
xsachaDr_willis: there's a fish shell? what are the advantages over plain ssh?17:05
Dr_willisthe fish shell.. ghas nothing to do with the fish:// thing of kde. or ssh at all17:07
Dr_willis!info fish17:07
ubottufish (source: fish): a friendly interactive shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.22.3-3 (hardy), package size 705 kB, installed size 3416 kB17:07
Jucato:)17:07
Jucatohttp://fishshell.org17:07
Dr_willisIts a neat little shell.. but just odd enough - that  it proberly would make  learning bash harder. :)17:07
Jabopxsacha: I don't see the option in vim's man for syntax on, what did you mean by that?17:08
yb5xsacha:  vlc dvd:///dev/dvd  works in terminal17:08
PiciI use nano's syntax hilighting17:08
xsachaJabop: as in you type it in.. :syntax on17:08
xsachacolon is how you do commands.. hang on, what did you use in fedora Jabop?17:08
Dr_willisyea.. the Opensolaris iso  - just crashed virtualbox. :)17:08
Dr_willisso much for that os. heh17:08
jhutchins_wkJabop: You might find the internal help useful.  :help17:09
Dr_willisJabop,  vi fundamentals :set SOMEOPTION on (i think)17:09
Dr_willistheres so many options.. I just set them in my .vimrc file17:09
Jabopkonsole with vim, it came packaged and I didn't have to configure any syntax options17:09
Jabop:p17:09
Dr_willisI was thinking the tiny-vim now in ubuntu may have the feature. used to be you had to install vim-full to get the full range of fancy features17:10
JabopI use another text editor gui primarily, but when I am in cli and need to change a few lines, syntax highlighting would be useful17:10
matthew_hey, people, i need some help with wine17:10
yb5matthew__: whats up?17:12
yb5xsacha:  vlc dvd:///dev/dvd  works in terminal17:12
xsachayeah thats where i have been using it17:12
yb5xs but not in autoplay. strange17:12
guilleHelp me please...Problem trying kubuntu 8.04 installer. After loading, livecd crashes showing something like a "X" at the middle-screen. I cannot reinstall17:12
xsachaohh autoplay17:12
grendal_primey5b: when the perpriatory driver gets installed  i reboot the machine and i get a constantly changing white gray screen with a black/gray line done the middle/right side of the screen17:12
xsachait must convert it from its /dev address to its /media address17:13
grendal_primeyb5: when the perpriatory driver gets installed  i reboot the machine and i get a constantly changing white gray screen with a black/gray line done the middle/right side of the screen17:13
yb5which driver did you install?17:14
yb5@ matthew__17:14
yb5xsacha: so what do i have to do?17:14
xsachayb5: no idea17:15
yb5xsacha: great :)17:15
xsacha:(17:15
grendal_primesorry should have mentioned im running kubuntu 8.04 and it is the nvidia perp driver that the aptupdater recommends17:15
grendal_primeand i cant believe i just typed that.17:15
jonathan_1hello!17:15
yb5do you have adjusted you /ect/X11/xorg.conf ??17:16
grendal_primeno17:16
grendal_primewell im sure i have the one that doesnt work17:16
yb5there is a section of your graphic card17:16
jonathan_1does someone know a good site for nice desktop utilities, for example a litle box that displaies the cpu usage or disk usage etc?17:16
yb5it sasy driver "nv"17:16
jonathan_1i mean a site where i can find some of them17:16
yb5change that nv to nvidia17:17
jhutchins_wkgrendal_prime: BTW it's "proprietary".17:17
yb5with sudo rights17:17
Jabopxsacha: I figured it out, you lead me in the right direction. thanks17:17
xsacha:)17:17
jhutchins_wk!packages17:17
ubottuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!17:17
grendal_primejhutchins_wk: ya but whats the alternative...the nv driver is not doing opengl17:18
grendal_primeyb5: pretty sure thats what i have going on now17:19
jhutchins_wkjonathan_1: Unlike windows, where packages are created and distributed by many other companies, packages that are popular with a distribution's users and developers get tested and bundled with the distribution.  They are not necessarily installed, but looking within the package manager you'll find loads of stuff.17:19
jhutchins_wkgrendal_prime: I don't know much about it myself, I hear that the guide here is a bit old, but:17:19
jonathan_1hm but then i need the name of some apps to find them don't i?17:20
jhutchins_wk!nvidia | grendal_prime17:20
ubottugrendal_prime: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto17:20
grendal_primegrrrrrr17:20
jonathan_1it's funny every time i'm in this channel it's the same toppic: graphic-cards :D17:20
jhutchins_wkjonathan_1: Yeah, that's a bit of a catch, but you can search descriptions as well.17:20
jonathan_1ok thank you!17:20
jhutchins_wk!info gkrellm | jonathan_117:20
ubottujonathan_1: gkrellm (source: gkrellm): The GNU Krell Monitors. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.1-1ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 734 kB, installed size 2076 kB17:20
xsachanot that long ago it was wireless cards this, wireless cards that17:20
jhutchins_wkjonathan_1: That's one option.17:21
xsachagraphics cards is a bit better i think. atleast they work, the problems usually come in giving them 3d capabiltiies or compositing17:21
jhutchins_wkxsacha: For the same reasons: the hardware's changing quickly and the manufacturers don't provide Linux support.17:21
jhutchins_wkxsacha: In Nvidia's case, they provide drivers but not the specs to write them.17:21
ben__Would somebody help me?17:23
deeverben__: don't ask meta questions, please17:23
ben__Well I've asked specific 1's and I dont get a responce :\17:24
jonathan_1thank you, it's a good program!17:24
xsachajhutchins_wk: all the new experimental stuff like ttm, GEM, gallium3d, etc.. comes out for intel which is nice17:25
xsachathey deserve it.. even though i dont own any intel17:25
jhutchins_wk!patience | ben__17:26
ubottuben__: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines17:26
guilleHelp me please...Problem trying kubuntu 8.04 installer. After loading, livecd crashes showing something like a "X" at the middle-screen. I cannot reinstall17:26
grendal_primeya we all know that hd support has always been an issue with linux.  Problem is with video cards i mean come on...you cant see..the display..every other problem is sort of moot.  I was under the impression that the problems wiht the nvida kernel had been resolved by now?17:26
jhutchins_wkben__: We're all just fellow users, some of us waiting for someone who knows how to solve our own problem.17:26
deeveranyone here with 8.04-kde4 on virtualbox and a screen resolution >800x600 ?17:26
jhutchins_wkben__: See?  Deever was asking that question hours ago, he's hoping someone will show up who knows.17:27
jhutchins_wkdeever: Is there a virtualbox channel?17:27
eagles0513875jhutchins_wk: there should be17:28
jhutchins_wkben__: I think it would be safe to restate your original question, it appears to have scrolled off.17:28
eagles0513875jhutchins #vbox17:29
jhutchins_wkThere's #kubuntu-kde417:29
ben__Well there's an online game Runescape, was wondering how to get onto those IRC channels. Anybody know?17:29
advanced!compiz17:30
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion17:30
yb5gotta go now -- thanks xsacha!!17:33
advancednice :D17:34
advancedwhat is better ? Konqueoror or Mozzila ?17:35
Odd-rationale!best | advanced17:35
ubottuadvanced: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.17:35
Odd-rationalebut i think konqueror with webkit kpart would pwn...17:36
Odd-rationaleoh, and also, when konqueror becomes as easily extendible as ff17:36
advancedi download firefox...will be better :-D17:37
advancedis here any expert for compiz-fusion ?17:37
Odd-rationaleadvanced: what is the problem?17:38
Odd-rationaleadvanced: let me guess... no cube? no window borders?17:38
advancedno windows boarders17:38
JackWinteranyone know where to get support ?  when playing video streamed from my sat rec (dreambox), vlc crashes when i change channels (kubuntu 8.04).  when i play with vlc on my laptop kubuntu 7.10, no problem changing channels.  same sttings and same url...17:38
Odd-rationaleadvanced: install emerald "sudo apt-get install emerald"17:38
advancedofc17:38
advancedi have17:39
advancedbut i wnat to emerald start when i run Linux17:39
advancedhow to do it ?17:39
Odd-rationaleadvanced: have compizconfig-settings-manager?17:39
advancedyes17:39
Odd-rationaleadvanced: go to the window decoration plugin. and put in emerald as trhe comnad.17:39
Odd-rationalecommand17:39
Odd-rationaleemerald will start whenever compiz starts...17:40
advancedbut i need compiz start when i start linux...but doesnt work :-D17:40
Odd-rationaleadvanced: are you using hardy?17:40
advancedKubuntu Hardy Heron17:40
Odd-rationaleadvanced: go to, settings --> advance desktop effects. select custom17:41
advancedyou can me upload screen ? i dont have EN language in Kubuntu...i dont know where is this17:42
Odd-rationaleadvanced: no i can't. i'm not using kubuntu....17:42
advanceddamn :-D17:42
Odd-rationaleadvanced: it is either in settings or in system...17:42
stephenHey17:42
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Odd-rationaleadvanced: or utilities...17:43
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Odd-rationalestephen: hello17:43
stephenI'm wondering if perhaps I could get some help? I'm not sure if there any rules here17:43
Odd-rationale!rules17:44
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines17:44
stephenthanks I'll read this, one moment17:44
advancedi found Advanced desktop effects17:45
Odd-rationaleadvanced: i think that is it. do you have a radio button that says "custom"?17:46
advancedno17:46
advancedyou have desktop effect ? can upload screen ?17:47
Odd-rationaleadvanced: or is that the compizconfig-setttings-manager?17:47
Odd-rationaleadvanced: no i don't it is kubuntu specific...17:47
advancedcompiz confing manager17:47
Odd-rationaleadvanced: hold on...17:47
advancedbtw thanks and sorry for noob question17:48
advancedwhat i must do ? Which button enabled or what ? i dont see anything17:48
stephenI've been running Kubuntu 4.0.4 for about 2 weeks now, and I've seen some interesting themes on kde-look.org and wouldn't mind installing one of these. Problem is, i can't find any solid instructions and the instructions I manage to stumble across don't seem to work17:48
Steve-calIf I do a "kcmshell --list", I get some modules that don't seem to show up in my "kcontrol", e.g. "mountconfig" to control which partitions get mounted. Is there some way I can add all available modules to show up in my kcontrol?17:49
stephenIf anybody has a useful website, or any bits of advice which could help I'd be very appreciative17:49
advanced!Cedega17:49
ubottucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega17:49
Odd-rationaleadvanced: can you send me a screenie of that? http://imagebin.ca17:49
advancedok17:49
Steve-calstephen: You might want to try asking that in #kubuntu-kde4, might be more relevant to them. :)17:50
advancedhttp://imagebin.ca/view/dYsrGyDl.html17:51
stephenSteve-cal: thanks for that, I didn't think it was very relevant here so I was quite hesistant to ask but again, thanks :]17:51
Odd-rationaleadvanced: ok. that is not it...17:51
advancedxD17:51
Odd-rationaleadvanced: look in system or utilities...17:51
Steve-calstephen: No problem, good luck. :)17:52
stephenthanks :]17:52
advancedand this17:52
advancedhttp://imagebin.ca/view/YnZsNhO.html17:52
PPSDhi, got the following problem: my network works fine but knetworkmanager says "no active devices"... any ideas?17:52
Odd-rationaleadvanced: no, it is not in kcontrol. it is in kmenu.17:53
Steve-calPPSD: I noticed mine does the same thing too, but if you go to "manual configuration" you can still get your configured connections. I like to use "knetstats" to show my active connection.17:55
Odd-rationaleadvanced: ok. if you can't find it. we' can just do a hack...17:56
advancedROFL :-D17:57
Odd-rationaleadvanced: ready?17:57
advancedyes17:57
advancedwtf ???17:57
Odd-rationaleadvanced: create a new text file called ~/.kde/Autostart/compiz.desktop17:57
PPSDSteve-cal: ok but i want to setup a vpn using knetwork manager17:58
Odd-rationaleadvanced: "kate ~/.kde/Autostart/compiz.desktop"17:58
Odd-rationaleis the easiest way...17:58
advancedkk17:58
advancedi must find first Kate17:59
Odd-rationaleadvanced: just type that line a terminal17:59
advancedkk17:59
Odd-rationaleit will open kate automatically...17:59
Steve-calPPSD: I see, since I don't use knetworkmanager, I wasn't even aware you could set up a VPN with it.18:00
Odd-rationalethen in that file, put the following lines in it. http://pastebin.ca/101919318:00
advancedopened18:00
Odd-rationaleadvanced: ^18:00
Odd-rationaleadvanced: then save a close the file18:00
advancedthis ?18:01
Odd-rationaleadvanced: logout and back in a hope that it works...18:01
advanced[Desktop Entry]18:01
advancedEncoding=UTF-818:01
advancedExec=compiz --replace ccp18:01
advancedStartupNotify=false18:01
advancedTerminal=false18:01
advancedType=Application18:01
advancedX-KDE-autostart-after=kdesktop18:01
Odd-rationalepaste it the file not here!!18:01
advancedkk sry18:01
advancedi know :(18:01
server_kaneis Ellinas?18:01
Odd-rationaleadvanced: you risked getting kick outa here...18:01
Odd-rationaleadvanced: well, did it work18:02
Odd-rationale?18:02
advancedwait18:03
Odd-rationalei got to go eat lunch pretty soon...18:03
advancedbut i need emerald too18:04
Odd-rationaleadvanced: compiz should start emerald...18:04
server_for greek kubuntu ?18:04
PPSDSteve-cal: are there other gui tools to setup vpns?18:04
stdin!gr | server_18:04
ubottuserver_: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes18:04
advanced_works18:05
advanced_nice18:05
advanced_thx18:05
advanced_but not emerald18:05
Steve-calPPSD: I believe so, but just out curiosity, when you say VPN, do you mean you want file sharing or exactly what are you after?18:05
Odd-rationaleadvanced_: did you put emerald in the command line in the window decoration plugin in ccsm?18:06
PPSDSteve-cal: no i need to establish a PPTP vpn with a server at work18:06
advanced_i dont have plugin in ccsm18:06
advanced_btw which commmand is for fast uninstalling Cedega ?18:06
Odd-rationaleadvanced_: open compizconfig-settings-manager.18:06
Steve-calPPSD: OK, well I have no experience with that, so sorry I can't help you. Good luck though. :)18:07
advanced_done18:07
PPSDSteve-cal: thanks18:07
Odd-rationaleadvanced_: look for the window decoration plugin18:07
PPSDanyone else knows a GUI to setup vpns?18:07
Odd-rationaleadvanced_: click on it. and for command type in emerald18:07
Daisuke_Laptoppeople still use cedega?18:07
advanced_emerald --replace ?18:07
Odd-rationaleadvanced_: just emerald18:08
advanced_k18:08
Daisuke_Laptopi was under the impression that wine's compatibility was actually better than cedega these days18:08
Odd-rationaleadvanced_: well i gtg eat... hope that works... if not. ask around...18:09
matthew_are there alternatives to wine?18:09
advanced_and command for uninstalling cedega ?18:09
stdinadvanced_: how did you install it?18:09
Daisuke_Laptopmatthew_: dual boot or run windows in a vm18:09
advanced_want to uninstall cedega18:10
Daisuke_Laptopmatthew_: technically you also have crossover office and cedega18:10
Daisuke_Laptopadvanced_: so you've said - can you answer the question?18:10
advanced_dont understand :-D18:10
stdinadvanced_: how did you install it?18:10
Daisuke_Laptophow did you install cedega in the first place18:10
advanced_with deb package18:10
matthew_where can you get that?18:11
advanced_warez :(18:11
matthew_and do you need to unintall wine for it to work?18:11
Pici!piracy | advanced_18:11
ubottuadvanced_: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o18:11
Daisuke_Laptopah, guess you shouldn't have done that, huh?18:11
advanced_no i want to first uninstall cedega and try install Wine for configure WoW18:11
stdinremove it with adept/synaptic/apt-get/aptitude/dpkg, whatever you want18:11
Daisuke_Laptopwine works just fine for WoW18:12
advanced_yes...i know...18:12
server_Greek kubuntu is there18:12
advanced_but not for me :-D18:12
matthew_well, my kubuntu says that wine is installed18:12
matthew_but i can't find it anywhere18:12
stdinserver_: /join #ubuntu-gr18:12
Daisuke_Laptopadvanced_: did you set the graphics engine as opengl?18:13
stdinmatthew_: you run it like "wine some_app.exe"18:13
matthew_o rly?18:13
matthew_in the comand line?18:13
Daisuke_Laptopwine is not a standalone app, it's used to launch windows programs18:13
stdinmatthew_: you can set .exe files to be associated with wine too, if you want18:13
matthew_how?18:13
Daisuke_Laptopstdin: in 8.04, once wine is installed, .exes are associated with wine (at least in ubuntu, can't speak for kubuntu)18:14
matthew_when i try what you said to do18:14
matthew_it says wine isn't installed18:14
stdinDaisuke_Ido: I wouldn't know, never use it ;)18:14
matthew_but when i go to the add/remove programs18:14
matthew_it says it is18:14
Daisuke_Laptopmatthew_: apt-cache policy wine18:14
matthew_unable to locate package wine18:15
advanced_how to install firefox ? i download package form mozilla18:15
Daisuke_Laptopsudo apt-get install wine18:15
eagles0513875thats weird18:15
eagles0513875java stopped working for me all together in firefox 318:15
advanced_i try18:15
matthew_that doesn't work either18:15
stdinmatthew_: make sure you have all the repositories enabled first18:16
Daisuke_Laptopadvanced_: you appear to be mistaken on how to get linux software.18:16
advanced_sudo apt-get install firefox xD18:16
Daisuke_Laptop!repos | advanced_18:16
ubottuadvanced_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories18:16
Daisuke_Laptop!packages | advanced_18:16
ubottuadvanced_: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!18:16
advanced_works perfectly18:16
matthew_hmmmmmmmmmmm18:16
matthew_im running kubuntu in a vm18:17
matthew_do you think that has anything to do with it?18:17
Daisuke_Laptopyou're running windows, then kubuntu in a vm, and wine in kubuntu?18:17
matthew_yeah18:17
matthew_trying anyway18:17
* Daisuke_Laptop facepalms18:17
Daisuke_Laptopwhy?18:17
Daisuke_Laptopyou have windows there, why would you need wine18:18
matthew_because i didn't want to screw with windows18:18
PiciSo you're screwing with wine instead?18:18
Daisuke_Laptopi have a headache now18:18
matthew_i want to run windows aps in linux18:18
matthew_i know that sounds wierd18:18
advanced_i want to superkaramba running whe i start linux18:18
advanced_and don know how to do it18:18
Pennycookmatthew_: Wouldn't it be easier to just install Linux as your operating system, or have a separate partition?18:19
server_greek plzz?18:20
matthew_no18:20
matthew_it wouldn't be easier18:20
stdinserver_: you have been told where it is18:20
server_greek ubuntu chanel?18:20
stdin[18:12]<stdin> server_: /join #ubuntu-gr18:21
Tw|sTmatthew_ : Are you doing this to test whether WINE can handle a few needed Windows applications?18:21
server_thss18:21
stdinset it to auto-join or whatever18:21
Tw|sTmatthew_ : I know where your coming from if that's the case.  I've had to do the same thing on a few systems that I run Linux on natively, such as a laptop up at my work.18:21
Pici!gr | server_18:22
ubottuserver_: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes18:22
advanced_!flash18:22
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash18:22
advanced_PLS18:23
Steve-cal>If I do a "kcmshell --list", I get some modules that don't seem to show up in my "kcontrol", e.g. "mountconfig" to control which partitions get mounted. Is there some way I can add all available modules to show up in my kcontrol? (KDE 3.5)18:23
Tw|sTI primarily use Linux as a server OS, but I also use it for forensic security work, as well as system rescue ( of win32 machines;  sterile environment + Samba support)18:23
Daisuke_Laptopadvanced_: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree18:23
matthew_well i try the sudo get-apt thing to install wine18:23
advanced_Sound  when i see video dont WORK !18:23
matthew_and then it tells me that the wine package was not found18:23
Tw|sTyeah, you probably need to add the repo18:23
matthew_repo?18:23
Daisuke_Laptopmatthew_: what version of kubuntu are you using?18:23
Tw|sTwhat build of Kubuntu are you running?18:24
matthew_harty18:24
advanced_hardy18:24
Daisuke_Laptopuniverse and multiverse should be enabled by default.18:24
matthew_yeah18:24
matthew_what?18:24
Tw|sTok, the way I found it for my x64 box was via a google search.18:24
matthew_multiverse?18:24
matthew_hmmm18:24
matthew_trying that...18:24
Tw|sTmatthew_ : do you have synaptic installed?18:24
Tw|sTgo to a console and type: apt-get install synaptic18:25
stdinkubuntu uses Adept, no Synaptic18:25
stdins/no/not/18:25
Daisuke_Laptopstdin: and that is a serious shortcoming :D18:25
Tw|sTright.  you can add it though18:25
Tw|sTand works way better18:25
Tw|sTAdept, to me, is totally for novices18:25
stdinDaisuke_Ido: adept is "ok"18:25
Daisuke_Laptopit is "ok"18:26
stdinit installs stuff and removes stuff, it'll do18:26
khaije1in what way is synaptic better than adept?18:26
Tw|sTI demand a lot more in depth capability... mostly because I've been using computers since 198518:26
advanced_sount doesnt work for me with i watch flash videos18:26
stdinTw|sT: I use aptitude, but adept is fine for the normal user18:26
matthew_im not finding any wine packages18:26
stdinTw|sT: and it's the easiest way to enable sources18:27
khaije1imho adept is a superset of synaptic's features18:27
Tw|sTalso, with synaptic, there's an option 'auto-add recommended packages' which helps eliminate dependency problems later18:27
Tw|sTtrue18:27
Daisuke_Laptopot, but 85 was the point where i got into them as well18:27
Tw|sT: stdin very true18:27
thorkemadohola, or hi!!18:27
Tw|sTit is the easiest for a newbie to get upto speed18:27
advanced_pls help :-D18:28
thorkemadosomebody could help me with the flash plugin of firefox?18:28
Tw|sTI guess really it all just depends on experience level18:28
advanced_!help18:28
ubottuI am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)18:28
advanced_!sound18:28
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP318:28
Tw|sTthorkemado : have you installed anything to give Firefox flash support?18:28
Tw|sTbrb...18:29
matthew_when i run the package installer it tells me that dependancy is not verifiable18:29
Daisuke_Laptopthorkemado: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree18:29
* Tw|sT goes looking up the packages18:29
thorkemadoy have tried, but iv got a error!!18:29
Tw|sTboom18:29
Tw|sTthere ya go18:29
Tw|sTwhat's the error?18:29
thorkemadohold on for a second...18:29
advanced_!flash_help18:29
ubottuFactoid flash_help not found18:29
Tw|sT!flash18:30
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash18:30
Tw|sT!Gnash18:30
ubottuAn open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/18:30
advanced_but sound doesnt work for me18:30
advanced_:(18:30
Tw|sTadvanced_ : has your sound card been detected?18:30
thorkemadook im going to tru told you waht i do ti install de plugin18:31
Tw|sTyou can find out quickly just by opening Kmix18:31
advanced_Only flash videos doesnt work18:31
advanced_Normal amarok works perfectly18:31
Tw|sTah... you need some kinda FLV support then.18:31
thorkemadoI enter on de adept program and search "flash" and i find swf-player paquet18:31
advanced_ok i try18:32
massimociao18:32
thorkemadoand try ti install but sais the and erorr has ocurred its probably one of the paket couldnt be donwload...18:32
Tw|sThave you checked out 'voobys.com' ?  pretty much anything that you find on Youtube, replace youtube.com in the URL with voobys.com, and it'll take you to a page where you can download the video in FLV format, along with a player to play it back.18:32
Tw|sTI've had to use that on a few systems18:33
Tw|sTnot to mention it's a nice way to get a backup copy of a youtube vid18:33
matthew_you can also use www.vixy.net to download youtube vids18:33
Tw|sTright on18:34
Tw|sT:)18:34
matthew_yeah, it also can rip the audio from the vid18:34
matthew_it's pretty cool18:34
matthew_the only bad thing is that it takes a while18:34
advanced_I CANNOT use WINE because he have big window...damn18:34
matthew_and sometimes it'll mess up the track length18:34
Tw|sThmm... I'd like to do that with some of the youtube vids I found of Cesar Huesca ( awesome guitarist from Brazil;  he has his own Youtube channel)18:35
Tw|sThe covers a lot of Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, etc.18:35
matthew_how did you say to run an exe with wine again?18:35
matthew_from the konsole18:36
Tw|sTwine appname18:36
matthew_do you have to be in the same dir as the app?18:36
matthew_(i know that sounds like a dumb Q)18:36
Tw|sTit helps to be in the folder with the app, otherwise you have to put in the path to it, and even then, mixed results.18:36
matthew_k18:36
* matthew_ is trying that18:37
Tw|sToh18:37
advanced_i cannot edit wine :(18:37
Tw|sThey, open wine by itself one time from the command line if you haven't already18:37
Tw|sTyou may need to type sudo su18:37
matthew_me?18:37
Tw|sTthat'll raise you to root so you can config wine18:37
matthew_huh?18:37
Tw|sTonce the global config for wine is set, exit sudo and try running your wine app18:38
eagles0513875i dunno if u guys have read but wine 1 release client if all goes to plan will be out in june18:38
Tw|sThmm... nice18:38
matthew_wait, how am i supposed to config wine?18:38
Tw|sTbrb18:39
killtriphello18:40
techbwhi all, anyone know if softline pastel will work using wine?18:40
techbwonly info i have found was that they were considering creating a linux version, but this has as yet not been done18:41
* Tw|sT is opening up a session to his Kubuntu-x64 box via Xming from a Vista Ult. laptop18:41
matthew_installing wine...18:41
killtripanyone got a few mins to help me out?  I'm learning, and something new has happened that I am confused about18:41
matthew_i'm new too, so yeah...18:41
matthew_Tw|sT, wine is now installed and im in my root18:42
killtripI've got some windows that have greyed out and are unresponsive.. whats that mean?  and how do I fix it?18:42
matthew_what do i do now?18:42
SlimeyPetekilltrip: it means that the application has crashed, usually. You can try pressing alt+f2 , typing "xkill", pressing return then clicking on the window to kill it.18:43
jhutchins_wkmatthew_: Are you asking how to run a windows program with wine?18:43
matthew_yeah18:43
matthew_it just gave me a ton of crap18:44
techbwmathew: you can use consol to open the program, wine /path/to/file18:44
killtripSlimeyPete:  I did that and the windows are still open18:45
matthew_i just tried that18:45
techbwmathew:what prog u wanting to open18:45
matthew_a counter strike setup18:46
techbwmathew: not sure if couterstike is known to work using wine, have you googled to find that out?18:47
SlimeyPetekilltrip: oh dear... sounds like they're really broken then. You might have to log out to get rid of them.18:47
matthew_no18:47
matthew_should i have?18:47
killtripboo, ok.. thanks18:47
techbwmathew: google to find out if anyone else has been able to get it running on wine.18:47
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techbwmathew: might save you alot of time18:48
matthew_k, i'll look it up18:48
matthew_let me config wine first...18:48
matteo_ciao a tutti18:48
matteo_ma e' inglese sto canale18:48
techbwmathew: there is another program...can't quite remember the name...but it is designed specifically for gaming on linux18:48
matthew_sweet18:48
matthew_i'll look into it18:49
matteo_matthew tell me the problem18:49
matthew_rar linux is lagging like heck...18:49
matthew_what?18:49
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matteo_a game not running on wine?18:49
matthew_no, i don't know how to run the game on wine18:50
matthew_i think i got it though18:50
matthew_let me check18:50
matteo_you have ubuntu?18:50
matthew_kubuntu18:50
matthew_yeah18:50
matteo_wine istalled?18:50
matthew_yup18:50
matteo_game is on a cd?18:51
matthew_no18:51
matthew_it's an exe18:51
matthew_got it from a torrent18:51
matteo_yust open and install18:51
matthew_open the exe?18:51
techbwmathew: is it a install file...or a self extracting zip file???18:52
matthew_it's an install/setup18:52
ugamatthew_: wine setup.exe18:52
matteo_if wine is istalled the program automaticaly runs exe files18:53
techbwcan you poing me to the torrent...then I can download and try the install18:53
techbwwhat size is the torrent?18:53
matthew_it's a ktorrent file18:53
matthew_about 300mb18:53
matteo_if it is an exe wine automaticaly open it18:53
techbwdamn...take too long on my connection18:53
ugauh? lol, wtf is that. torrents are usually tiny ;)18:53
matteo_if you click on the exe that you get?18:54
techbwthe contents of the torrent...not the .torrent file itself18:54
techbwuga18:54
matthew_i think i just got it to wokr18:54
matthew_work*18:54
matteo_if you click on the exe that you get?18:54
matthew_i just tried, it started to open a window18:55
matthew_then crashed18:55
techbwmy wine does not run .exe files unless i apppend wine to the front ... wierd...dunno18:55
shaffycan someone please tell me how i get my taskbar back??18:55
jhutchins_wkshaffy: try dcop kicker kicker restart18:55
techbwmathew:are you wanting to run server on linux or play the game18:55
ugatechbw: it's not wine that does, it's the file manager that uses wine to run them18:55
matteo_but is wine that try to open it or another program???18:55
matthew_i wants to play the game18:55
matthew_yeah, it's not working18:56
matteo_but is wine that try to open it or another program???18:56
matthew_wait....18:56
matthew_IT WORKETH!18:56
* uga reads certain grammar and thinks... me Tarzan, you Jane18:56
matthew_yeah18:56
matthew_i like lolspeak18:56
matteo_work?18:56
techbw?18:56
ugamatthew_: "i wants to play the game"18:56
matteo_right button on the exe "open with" select wine18:57
matthew_i know that isn't correct18:57
matthew_i like lolspeak18:57
matthew_it's working, anyway18:57
matthew_thanks guys18:57
techbwgood news.18:57
techbwlet me know what graphics is like...compared to on windows18:58
matthew_i don't think it'll work very well18:58
matthew_it's just nice to know that i can now run windows stuff18:58
shane__hey i have locked a file on desktop kubuntu forbiden to all how can i open it up now?18:58
JabopI have an error with Dolphin. When I click anywhere in Dolphin when I'm in a certain directory I get this message:18:58
JabopThe desktop entry file18:58
Jabop/usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop18:58
Jabophas an invalid menu entry18:58
JabopaddAsPodcast.18:58
techbwi am also looking for info on running a windows app...softline pastel...an accounting package, does anyone know if it will run ...have searched google...but no info on google18:59
shaffyjhutchins_wk: thanks!18:59
jussi01!appdb | techbw18:59
ubottutechbw: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org18:59
techbwubottu: much appreciated18:59
ubottutechbw: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:59
jussi01:)19:00
jussi01!info gnucash | techbw19:00
ubottutechbw: gnucash (source: gnucash): A personal finance tracking program. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.4-1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 1706 kB, installed size 5036 kB19:00
techbwthis bot is quite intelegent...asking a q in plain english and it undertood me?19:01
techbwwow19:01
jussi01techbw: no, I called those for you19:01
Xbehave_!hello > Xbehave_.19:01
Xbehave_!hello > Xbehave_19:01
shane__is there a admin option i can use to open a locked file19:01
jussi01Xbehave_: see pms....19:01
jussi01shane__: yes, there is, what are you trying to open?19:02
techbwtx..was wondering...how does one do that?19:02
Xbehave_yeah i was trying to get a pm channel open without registering turns out it cant be done  :(19:02
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shane__i put a file on my desktop and then put all groups in forbiden in the propertys menu now i cant reset that or remove the file atall19:02
jussi01techbw: the bot responds to anything starting with "!" or "ubottu"19:03
jussi01techbw: ie.19:03
jussi01!test19:03
ubottuFailed19:03
techbwjussi01: nothing in winehq dw19:03
techbwdb19:03
FirefisheI have a sony clie' PEG-TJ37 palm handheld from a few years back.  I'm using kubuntu and would like some information on syncing it with kpilot.19:04
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jussi01techbw: if you want to tryit out, feel free to join #ubuntu-bots19:04
athlon1can any help me with compiz? My computer have two screens and after installing compiz, when i mazimize, windows size if of both screens. The sistem considers both screens as I and dialog appear cut by half, one piece on each screen Why is that? thanks19:04
techbwtanx19:04
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jussi01!portables | Firefishe19:04
ubottuFirefishe: Guides for smartphones and portable devices can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/19:04
jussi01athlon1: try in #compiz-fusion19:05
shane__jussi01: i set propertys on a file on my desktop as forbidden i need to change that but it states only owner has access19:05
Firefishethanks jussi01..I'll do an RTFM and let you know how I made out :)  thank you19:05
siofwolvesJabop, i had that prob too. -> http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/index.php?showtopic=2082419:05
shane__jussi01: i am the owner it was a file i fished of of my other computer19:05
jussi01shane__: go to terminal, type: kdesu konqueror19:05
athlon1OK, i'm going to install it... Thanks.19:06
shane__jussi01: ok19:06
jussi01shane__: when that opens, you can navigate to the file and right click -properties - permissions and change stuff19:06
techbwwill have to just try installing pastel to see if it will work..can't get any info. does not look like a popular prog19:06
shane__jussi01: konqueror: WARNING: Can't open /root/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml19:07
Jabopsiofwolves: Thanks much!19:07
jussi01shane__: ignore it19:07
siofwolvesnp19:07
shane__jussi01: ok TY19:07
JackWinteris there a way within the package system to install an older version of a program ?19:09
ugaJackWinter: dpkg -i oldpackage.deb?19:09
athlon1sussi01; How can install compiz-fusion. I've installed most of packages of compiz and can't find compiz-fusion (i've installed compiz-fusion-bcop)19:10
JackWinteruga: ok, and how do i find out the old package name ?19:10
stdin!compiz | athlon119:10
ubottuathlon1: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion19:10
shane__jussi01: the file im looking for is on my desktop and i cant find it in konqueror19:10
ugaJackWinter: ?¿ don't you knwo what program you want to install19:10
jussi01shane__: type into the address bar in konqueror: ~/desktop19:11
jussi01hang on19:11
_ZeuZ_How can I turn the Log Out effect of default KDE 3.5.9 on Hardy?19:11
jussi01~/Desktop19:11
athlon1OK, thanks.19:12
shane__jussi01: file does not exist19:12
JackWinteran older version of vlc.  i have vlc 0.8.6.e and want to try 0.8.6.c which seems more stable on my 7.10, than the one on 8.0419:12
jussi01shane__: the captital d is important..19:12
shane__yes i used cap d19:12
shane__jussi01: The file or folder ~/Desktop does not exist.19:13
stdinjussi01: kdesu sets $HOME to /root19:13
jussi01stdin: heh... /me headdesks19:14
jussi01shane__: what is your login name?19:14
shane__shane19:14
shane__jussi01: shane19:14
jussi01shane__: so type int to konq's address bar: /home/shane/Desktop/19:14
stdinor just '~shane/Desktop'19:15
shane__jussi01: stdin k TY got it19:16
jussi01:)19:16
JackWinteruga: an older version of vlc.  i have vlc 0.8.6.e and want to try 0.8.6.c which seems more stable on my 7.10, than the one on 8.0419:16
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ugaJackWinter: then you need the older vlc version's .deb file first19:18
ugaJackWinter: it might still be there in the ubuntu mirrors19:18
graftyo, how do i get pulseaudio to start up automatically?19:18
graftit never starts when i login, i have to start it by hand19:19
JackWinteruga: aha, thanks, i'll go hunting.  it's in the repos for gutsy19:19
jussi01!bum | graft19:20
ubottugraft: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto19:20
graftjussi01: what?19:21
jussi01graft: it was a suggestion for starting pulse at boot...19:22
jussi01graft: see the bit from the bot19:22
graftjussi01: okay, but it doesn't say anything about how to start from boot19:22
graftalso, if it starts from boot wouldn't it run as root?19:22
jussi01!autostart | graft19:23
ubottugraft: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. For a complete guide, see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html19:23
jussi01graft: your choice on how you want it19:23
graftany idee what the autostart directory in kde4 is?19:24
grafti read it was .kde4/share/autostart, but that doesn't seem to work19:24
_ZeuZ_or just copy a sh script to start it in .kde/autostart and chmod +x it19:24
jhutchins_wkgraft: #kubuntu-kde4 may be more help.19:25
graftyoich.19:25
jhutchins_wk_ZeuZ_: I tried that on 3.5, doesn't seem to work.19:25
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_ZeuZ_jhutchins, with mine, it works19:26
_ZeuZ_just create a sh script that launches whatever you need, then copy it to ~/.kde/Autostart and chmod +x it19:27
jhutchins_wkActually, I don't see that the file is there after all.  Maybe I _meant_ to do it...  let's see.19:27
_ZeuZ_if you do it that way, it will.19:27
_ZeuZ_x'DDD19:27
biopodhi all. looking for some way to activate dual screen in kde (Nvidia card) with the DVI port to be the main screen.19:30
jussi01!dualhead | biopod19:35
ubottubiopod: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama19:35
jussi01!xinerama > biopod19:35
andrewbensonHi19:37
andrewbensonNot sure if I'm in the right place. I'm having boot problems since upgrading to Hardy Heron. I dual boot with windows 2000. I just get a grub prompt now, but I can get it to boot (using it now).19:40
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Firefishebrb19:56
JackWinteris there a way to install some gutsy packages into hardy ?19:59
JackWinteri mean through the packaga manager ?20:00
SallinI suppose by setting the proper repositories20:00
shane_when i start up i get this message"xine was unable to open any audio drivers" any ideas on how to fix20:01
jhutchins_wk!sound20:02
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP320:02
unohow do i get my nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000] to use resolutions above 640*480?20:06
uno!nvidia20:07
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto20:07
JackWinteruga: how would i go about getting the old packages onto my system ?20:14
shane_ok i looked at the page ubotto sent up and its not a fix i am running a foxconn board and p4 2gig cpu if this helps at all is there a comand i can use to find if there is a sound device installed20:16
ZefirI think my HDD has bad sectors. How do I scan it? I am mainly interested in scanning three NTFS partitions.20:17
rimadis kubuntu rolling release distro?20:19
llutznope20:19
rimadthats crap, how often major versions are out?20:20
Picirimad: Every 6 months20:20
llutzfixed release cycles, 2 times/yr + security-updates20:20
crash__Zefir: Best method is running chkdsk /r on the partition (from Windows)20:21
Zefircrash__: I shalt not use that profanity of a operating system.20:21
Zefircrash__: Mainly because it's broken... >_>20:21
crash__got an XP install CD you can boot from? Do it from the recovery console20:22
ZefirOh? I can get a command line there?20:22
crash__indeed20:22
crash__boot from the CD20:22
crash__At the FIRST screen, hit "R" to enter a console20:23
kreibpython support for kwrite?20:23
nixninjaquick question has anyone had any problems downloading files from web pages since upgrading to Hardy?20:24
Zefirchkdsk /r from cmd line... Hm, ok, thanks, I'll try that later.20:24
Sallindefine problems?20:24
nixninjatimes out every time I try to download a torrent file20:25
nixninjafrom firefox and from Ktorrent20:25
Sallinhaven't tried to dl a torrent lately, sorry :)20:26
nixninjasame with wget20:26
dave11god fedora is a nightmare20:28
stunatraFedora's KDE is bloated.20:28
llutzkubuntus KDE is crippled :)20:29
stunatraFedora KDE bloated with GTK apps.20:29
dave11the live cd is a nightmare to try to run20:29
dave11even with a good burn it gave me 15 IO errors the disk refused to eject until I reorganized the boot device priority20:31
stunatraF9?20:32
dave11i have a flakey drive which takes 5 pushes of the button before it will eject any disk but it wouldnt eject period20:35
smerili was going to change my mac key but i managed to fuck up and write over some important lines in a text editor now i am using wirless internet and i cant use the wire connection20:36
vltI'm installing Kubuntu now and am stuck in the partitioning process. I have set up a partition for /boot and a dm-crypt volume. How can I create and LVM volume now? I can't find that menu entry. Can anyone help?20:37
vltOk, I found it. I have to select "use as ..." and then lvm.20:45
shukakujoin #espaciolinux20:46
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fookswould you guys say is safe to upgrade to hardy for us gutsy users?20:49
fookshas the dust cleared?20:49
Pennycookfooks: Three of the computers in my house have been upgraded from gutsy cleanly.20:50
crash__Except for KDE4, its quite stable20:50
fooksive had a bad upgrade before20:51
fooksi still have nightmares from it20:51
Pennycookfooks: Happened to me on the upgrade to gutsy, but the Hardy upgrade has seemed a lot better from the off.20:51
fooksPennycook, maybe ill give it a go20:51
fooksim not sure20:51
fooksneed to back some stuff up first20:51
PennycookAlways a good idea20:52
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fooksit froze on my last time over some lame file encryption package that i never even remembered installing20:52
Itakuwhats a good magnifier program?20:52
fookskmag20:52
crash__!usplash20:54
ubottuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork20:54
scifiI recently bought a 2nd user laptop from ebay which is pre-loaded with vista. It's specs are Intel C2D T5600 1.83GHZ x2, 1GB ram, Intel® 950GMA 3D graphics with up to 128MB shared memory. I havent received the laptop yet, but I'm assuming, knowing how resource hungry Vista is that performance may feel sluggish. So im considering kubuntu instead, my only big concern is battery life...20:55
scifidoes kubuntu have good power management options?20:55
Odd-rationalescifi: yes. guidance-power-manager20:56
scifiisnt that just an indicator, or does it actually allow you to tweak power settings?20:57
Odd-rationalescifi: it allows some tweaking..20:57
scifiok thankyou, i take it kubuntu will run pretty smoothly on the specs shown above?20:59
myk_robinsonhey. Anyone able to help me with an APC battery backup? I have installed and configured apcupsd, and the status of the unit is showing if i run apcaccess. I tried a power down test, without my computer hooked into the battery, and was never given an onscreen indication that the computer was going to shutdown.21:02
myk_robinsonmy apc log file showed that the computer did detect that the apc was running on batteries, however. So it is communicating with the computer21:02
* Daisuke_Ido mumbles incoherently about how Schizm won't play properly under wine21:04
Daisuke_Idolooks like it might be a codec issue21:06
fookswhats a cheap affordable laptop21:06
fookslike the eee pc21:07
fooksbut yet not the eee pc21:07
Daisuke_Idofooks: the eee pc21:07
Daisuke_Idothat's about it for ultraportables21:07
Daisuke_Idofor now, at least21:07
fooksare they selling the olpc?21:07
Daisuke_Idowait for the new ones to come out, larger screen (1024x600)21:07
fooksDaisuke_Ido, yeah i saw that21:07
scifitry ebay, got my ultraportable for £24021:07
Daisuke_Idoi think they stopped, or at least stopped the get one give one promotion21:08
fooksi read that the thinkpads run linux the best21:08
fooksor the dell 1420blahblah laptop rather21:08
Daisuke_Idoworks great on my dell 142021:08
Daisuke_Ido:D21:08
_CrashMaster_!ot21:08
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!21:08
fooks_CrashMaster_, how else would i know if kubuntu ran well on it?21:09
fooksoh its a support question alright! aha21:09
Daisuke_Ido_CrashMaster_: i'm not sure that discussing how well the distro runs on particular laptops is offtopic.  that sounds like a support issue.21:09
scifiis kde 4 stable, or shud i stay with the last rock solid stable release?21:09
Daisuke_Idoscifi: personal recommendation, stick with 3.5 until 4.1 comes out at least21:09
_CrashMaster_Daisuke_and fooks: Apologies. That wasnt directed at anyone. I put it up because I forgot the OT channel name21:10
fooksscifi, i concur with Daisuke_Ido21:10
Daisuke_Ido4.0.x is alright, but there's still a lot missing21:10
scifik thx guys21:10
Daisuke_Ido_CrashMaster_: ah, no worries then :)21:10
fooksever since i install gutsy my system has been so stable that im almost bored21:11
fooksi got used to reinstalling and reconfiguring stuff all the time21:11
scifigutsy? thoight it was called hardy heron?21:12
fooksscifi, i haven't upgraded yet21:12
scifio right21:13
fooksbut anywho21:13
_CrashMaster_uno: Where is my server printout?21:13
fooksim off21:13
fookspeace21:13
Daisuke_Idoi had a hard system lockup the other day... most exciting thing to happen since i installed hardy21:14
seb__hello everybody21:14
seb__i'm new here and i'm new on linux and ubuntu21:15
seb__someone know how can i do to speak about another thing with irc21:15
seb__?21:15
seb__because here all speak english and i'm french21:16
Pennycook!fr21:16
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr21:16
scifi:)21:16
seb__yes21:16
scifiIf only i wasnt a gamer, wud have dropped windows a long time ago :s21:17
shane_anyone able to solve video and video isue21:17
shane_lol audio21:17
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scifino, i only do video and video issues :D21:18
ugashane_: ask about the issue, else we cannot tell21:18
ugaand you'll only get silly answers like those from scifi ;))21:18
shane_ok i startup and i get this message"xine was unable to initialise any audio drivers." if i open caffien media player it says i need codec and then doesnt open a sight says error21:19
ugashane_: it's trying to use the xine backend and somehow it's got issues... have you tried changing the backend in kaffeine?21:20
psycohas anyone install "frameworks" its a stop motion animation program21:20
crskubuntu is boring... it works ;/21:20
scifiwill kubuntu connect to a vista system on a wireless network ok?21:20
shane_umm i installed kubuntu yesterday can we be more specific and im a newby to linux21:20
ugashane_: okay... do other applications play music?21:21
ugaor sounds?21:21
ugalike, when you log into the desktop, or errors, or amarok or... any other app21:21
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shane_no sounds iv tryed configuring sound and to no response kmix shows no mixer21:22
Pennycookscifi: They'll be able to share files, yes.21:22
scifiPennycook, cheers21:22
ugashane_: okay then it's a base issue. Do you know what your soundcard model is?21:23
shane_is there a way i can see if i have a sound card21:23
shane_its a foxconn onboard21:23
ugasure there is, but I hope you have a soundcard =)21:23
_CrashMaster_shane_: lspci and then look for something relating to sound21:23
ugashane_: lets check... type in a konsole: "lspci |grep -i sound"21:23
_CrashMaster_uga: have him grep "audio" as well, probably21:24
shane_how did umake that long line21:24
ugaah, true21:24
_CrashMaster_shift + bkspc21:24
_CrashMaster_err21:24
_CrashMaster_shift + blackslash21:24
shane_i do the "lspci |grep -i sound" and i get nothin21:27
ugashane_: okay, just type "lspci" alone21:27
ugayou'll get a long list, don't get daunted21:28
ugacheck if there's anything that sounds like your soundcard model name, or something (anything) related to audio/sound21:28
ugamine for example says 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)21:28
shane__CrashMaster_: ok i get allot that way21:28
psyco Can someone help me wiuth this error when running ./configure? http://pastebin.com/m5c90b9c321:28
_CrashMaster_shane_: Thats your sound card then.21:29
ugashane_: could you paste what you get here: ? http://paste.ubuntu.com21:29
shane_00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661FX/M661FX/M661MX Host (rev 11)21:29
shane_00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS AGP Port (virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge)21:29
shane_00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS964 [MuTIOL Media IO] (rev 36)21:29
shane_00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev 01)21:29
ugaarf! not here in the channel!21:29
shane_00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 0f)21:29
shane_00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 0f)21:29
shane_00:03.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 0f)21:29
shane_00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 90)21:29
shane_00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Marvell W8300 802.11 Adapter (rev 07)21:29
shane_01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV630 [Radeon HD 2600 AGP Series]21:29
SlimeyPetewoah21:29
llutz!paste | shane_21:29
ubottushane_: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)21:29
_CrashMaster_psyco: Looks like you need to instsall some libraries.21:30
ugashane_: what you just did is called channel flooding, and it's forbidden21:30
shane_sorry guys21:30
ugashane_: you paste in http://paste.ubuntu.com21:30
uganot in the channel21:30
SlimeyPeteit's a common mistake though21:30
SlimeyPeteno need to feel bad about it21:30
shane_iv opened paste now my apoligies21:30
crsWhat do I need to make k3b transcoding mp3 to wave while making audio cd?21:30
psyco_CrashMaster_:  yes, but i can't find them :S21:30
_CrashMaster_psyco: tried the repo?21:30
ugashane_: okay, it seems we have an issue here, there's nothing about soundcards in your pci list21:31
crsok, i habe found. :)21:31
crshave*21:31
psyco_CrashMaster_: err you mean like adept?21:31
_CrashMaster_psyco: Yup.21:31
ugashane_: the kernel couldnt' find a soundcard there21:31
ugashane_: is it a normal motherboard soundcard? an external one? or a usb one?21:31
shane_ok so i need to add a soundblaster card then21:31
psyco_CrashMaster_: Yup21:31
shane_it motherboard21:32
shane_k ill install my soundblaster TY21:32
_CrashMaster_psyco: stand by, im looking21:32
psyco_CrashMaster_: Alright, awesome.21:32
_CrashMaster_shane_: is your soundcard disabled in the bios?21:33
tuxi have a problem with the splash screen it gets messed up21:33
tuxhow can i fix that?21:33
_CrashMaster_!x21:33
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto21:33
crshmm this is from k3b, I cant burn cd ;/21:34
crsErrno: 5 (Input/output error), write_g1 scsi sendcmd: no error21:34
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crsAny ideas what might be wrong? ;(21:35
ugacrs: permissions?21:36
ugacrs: is your user in group "cdrom"?21:37
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ugacrs: you could try running "kdesu k3b" to check if permissions is the issue21:38
_CrashMaster_psyco: try "sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0"21:38
_CrashMaster_then recompile21:38
psycoOk sec21:38
Steve-calWhen I make changes to my Kmenu, which file does it save its changes to?21:41
Mallias_larproblem with shell scripting... anyone expert?21:43
stdinSteve-cal: they get stored in ~/.local/share/applications21:43
_CrashMaster_stdin!21:43
crsuga: yes, I am in cdrom group. I'm trying now as a root21:46
crsuga: k3b says as root that i must try TAO, i did and now it stucks at 0% speeding up and slowing down cdrom all the time...21:48
crsuhm error ;/21:48
psyco_CrashMaster_: nope >.>21:48
psycoIts really confusing....21:48
ugacrs: uhm...21:48
shane_ok my sound isues are sorted thank u for that  lspci comand ,my soundblaster picked right up and i apologize for flooding the page like that21:48
magoHi! Someone know if i can install campiz fusion with adept?21:48
ugacrs: TAO?21:48
psyco_CrashMaster_: I might beable to find them online21:49
ugacrs: are you recording music?21:49
crsuga: faild again. ;/ now is reccomending dao21:50
crsuga: yes21:50
ugacrs: I'd first suggest testing recording a normal iso file21:50
ugathat should be easier21:50
ugacrs: try something like (as root)  cdrecord -v dev=/dev/cdrw kubuntuIsoFile.iso21:51
Steve-calstdin: Those are some of the individual program .desktop files, I think what I might be looking for is ~/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu. Is that for the files/menus in the K menu? Mine is a bit confusing--looks like it may be old.21:51
ugacrs: it might well be that k3b isn't doing it right for audio (although strange)21:52
ugaor maybe some program is missing or something21:52
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ugaat least trying that with cdrecord will tell us if the drivers work fine on your cd recorder21:52
magoplease someone help to install compiz fusion...21:53
stdinSteve-cal: I think that's just for the order of the items in the menu21:53
uga!compiz21:53
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion21:53
crswill try later21:53
ugacrs: ok, good luck21:53
ugacrs: also check if k3b says something is missing when starting up21:53
ugait usually shows a popup when something is missing21:54
Steve-calstdin: I think that's what I'm looking for then. Mine for some reason seems old though... has changes I previously made to the K menu.21:54
shane_how can i play mpg file in ubuntu21:54
ugashane_: install mplayer, or kaffeine, or xine...21:54
ugamany apps can play them21:55
magothanyou ubottu...21:55
shane_i have kaffeine21:55
ugamago: hey, I was the one asked ubottu to tell you that =)21:55
ugamago: ubottu is a robot ;P21:55
shane_No plugin found to handle this resource21:55
Mallias_lardoes anyone know a good site with shell script examples????21:56
Mallias_larhelp21:56
crsuga: nothing is missing fo k3b, still the same error. ;./ Im starting to worry it is cdrecorder issue ;/21:56
ugashane_: try in command line "file filename.mpg"21:56
crsharedware, not software21:56
ugadoes it say it is mpeg?21:56
ugacrs: uhm... give a try to the line I told you21:57
ugaif it's a bug there, it might be solvable21:57
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ugacrs: it might also be that k3b is unable to parse the cdrecord output (k3b uses cdrecord as backend)21:57
shane_uga: No such file or derectory21:57
ugashane_: errrm... replace filename.mpg with your file21:57
_CrashMaster_psyco: pastebin the new resutls21:57
ugawhere did you store your file21:57
ugashane_: that will tell you if the file is mpeg21:58
Mallias_lardoes anyone know a good site with shell script examples????21:58
psyco_CrashMaster_: I got the same results21:59
ugaMallias_lar: http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz21:59
psycosec I am downloading it off the instern21:59
shane_uga: yes it is mpeg21:59
ugaMallias_lar: chapter 721:59
ugashane_: what mpeg version22:00
shane_uga: says mpeg video22:00
deeverjhutchins: yes, there is one, but my problem is not vbox-specific, i think...22:00
ugashane_: file doens't say "mpeg video" on mpeg files =)22:01
ugait says "mpeg sequence" and mentions version number =)22:01
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Mallias_larthanks  uga22:01
shane_uga i cant get comand to find the file says No such file or directory22:02
ugashane_: ok, where did you put your file22:02
ugashane_: I'd suggest you to put it in your /home/shane, if you can22:02
ugaso that when you open the konsole, you are in the same folder22:02
ugathen it should work22:02
ugashane_: the problem is that even if the name is ".mpg", it might actually not be an mpeg file22:03
ugait could well be an mp4 file22:03
ugafor example22:03
ugaand it might mean you just need to install extra codec files22:03
shane_the file is in home/ newfolder/ 1234 /1.mpg22:03
ugashane_: then when you open the konsole, you can type...  file /home/newfolder/1234/1.mpg22:04
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shane_uga: bash: file/Home/NewFolder/1234/1.mpg: No such file or directory22:07
Daisuke_Idoshane_: you have to have your username in there...22:07
ugashane_: a space after "file"22:08
ugaand "Home" isn't same as "home"22:08
Daisuke_Idoand /home is never capitalized22:08
Daisuke_Idoyeah22:08
ugashane_: it usually is /home/shane/NewFolder.... something like that22:08
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ugashane_: and to help you out, if you partially type a folder name (for example /home/sha) and you press <tab> key, it will autocomplete the correct full name22:09
simon__how can I get a working program for dvdplayer kiss dp-500?22:11
LinuxApeAnyone here know more than a little about the ssh vulnerability that was recently introduced/patched?22:12
shane_uga: ok no such luck no matter how im typin it it isnt commin up keeps sayin no such file or derectory22:12
ugasimon__: that's a DVD player taht doesn't run kubuntu22:13
ugahow could we help you out =)22:13
Daisuke_IdoLinuxApe: apparently certain keys were popping up with more frequency than they should have, that's about all i know about it22:13
ugashane_: I suggest you... can you copy it to your home directory?22:13
ugawith no extra folders22:14
ugashane_: that will make it easier22:14
ugathen open konsole, and type "file 1.mpg"22:14
LinuxApeDaisuke_Ido:  Trying to find information on the SSH / SSL keys.  I can't login to my freenx server at home anymore since the patches have been installed.  I thought the patches took care of keys, etc.22:14
Daisuke_Idowhat you're going to have to do is remove the appropriate lines from the known hosts22:15
Daisuke_Ido~/.ssh/known_hosts22:16
shane_uga:i did paste it with space after file and without it still says no file or derectory im not sure what im doing wrong22:16
ugauhm... I wish I knew =(22:16
shane_ok ill try a dif way but does kaffiene play mpeg files22:17
ugait does22:17
ugaif they are mpegs22:17
shane_uga ok thank u ill keep lookin22:17
ugaif they are divx/xvid/mp4, you need to install win32codecs22:17
Daisuke_Idoum22:17
Daisuke_Idono, no he doesn't22:17
ugashane_: we can try something more... a second22:17
Daisuke_Idothe only reason for w32codecs would be wmv, rm, etc22:18
ugaDaisuke_Ido: uh? afaik it doesn't do divx by default22:18
Daisuke_Idodivx/xvid/mp4 play fine using ffmpeg (which is there by default)22:18
ugabeing it a non-free format22:18
FirefisheI'm using kubuntu feisty.  kde 3.5.6.  Issue:  kipilot won't sync with my sony clie PEG-TJ37.  I've been around the 'net and have not been able to narrow down the problem.22:18
Daisuke_Idoffmpeg can decode, but not encode, divx22:19
FirefisheOr, I should say, it sync'd once, then stopped.22:19
ugaDaisuke_Ido: true22:19
LinuxApeDaisuke_Ido:  That lets me login to the server with ssh, but doesn't fix the nxserver problem.22:19
jonathan_hrhello!22:19
vomisatutto tomattiko....22:19
ugashane_: there's one more trick... open a konsole, type "file" and a space, then drag and drop the file to the konsole22:19
vomisache bello!22:19
ugashane_: it will write the full path correctly there22:19
ugashane_: then it should work22:19
Daisuke_IdoLinuxApe: unfortunately, that's as much as i know about the issue :(22:19
Daisuke_Ido!it | vomisa22:19
ubottuvomisa: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!22:19
vomisasorry ubottu....22:20
ugashane_: if everything fails, you can install VLC (videolan)22:20
jonathan_hi!22:20
ugashane_: that's capable of playing anything22:20
vomisahi all.22:20
ugahi, and by22:21
ugae22:21
shane_uga: where can i find vlc22:21
ugashane_: there's packages for kubuntu22:21
ugashane_: apt-get install vlc22:21
Daisuke_Idosudo apt-get install vlc22:21
shane_kk ty22:21
LinuxApeDaisuke_Ido:  Thanks anyway.  I'll keep searching...22:22
sequethinhow can I adjust things so that I have to doubleclick on drives and folders to open them?22:22
flotishtuhow to auto configure ipmasq or any thing like it on every time at system boot.  dpkg-reconfigure ipmasq     . instead of manully pressing keys.?22:23
Daisuke_Idointeresting update...  2mb of blacklisted ssh RSA and DSA keys22:23
_CrashMaster_Yeah, I saw that22:23
_CrashMaster_whats going on with that?22:23
_CrashMaster_Why would ssh keys need to be  blacklisted?22:23
Daisuke_Ido3mb of blacklisted openssl RSA keys22:23
Daisuke_Ido_CrashMaster_: because of the security snafu that's plagued ssh for some time now that just got fixed (my guess is that those are the keys that are unusually common)22:24
SlimeyPetes/ssh/ssh in Debian-based distros/22:25
LinuxApeCrashMaster:  There was a bug in the random number generator that caused the random keys to start repeating way, way sooner than they should be.22:25
SlimeyPetelet's be honest22:25
Daisuke_IdoSlimeyPete: my mistake22:25
stdinthe bug was in ssl, which ssh uses22:25
LinuxApeI just need to find out how to get all my keys back in sync, including other systems (freenx) that use SSH22:25
_CrashMaster_LinuxApe: Good info. I thank you for it.22:25
SlimeyPeteRed Hat are laughing right now ;)22:25
Daisuke_IdoSlimeyPete: and then they realize they're still using RPM and start crying22:26
SlimeyPeteheh22:26
LinuxApeCrashMaster:  That's how they were able to compile the lists of blacklisted keys, they were regularly repeating.22:26
Daisuke_Idoawesome, so i was right about the keys22:26
Daisuke_Idothat's a rare occurrence22:27
sequethinis there no way to tell dolphin i prefer to double click on things?:)22:27
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stdinsequethin: system settings -> keyboard & mouse -> mouse22:27
chaoz__hi22:28
sequethinstdin: thanks! I've been looking all over the place!22:28
sequethinI thought it was an application specific setting. that was so simple haha22:28
LinuxApeDaisuke_Ido, CrashMaster:  Rather good discussion here:  http://lwn.net/Articles/281901/22:28
Daisuke_Idowell, i'm going to do something stupid.22:29
Daisuke_Idoi'm going to install kde422:29
_CrashMaster_well22:29
_CrashMaster_I didnt have a problem with it22:29
_CrashMaster_Well, perfomance issues.22:30
Daisuke_Idoi haven't not had a problem with it since running the betas22:30
Daisuke_Idoi haven't touched 4.0.4 yet, so here's hoping22:30
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crsthe newest kubuntu (8.04) up to date, konqueror and flash. does not work. ;/ I can hear sound, but cant see video ;/22:31
crsKnown problem?22:31
psyco_CrashMaster_: Finally got it :D thanks for the help22:33
o0Chris0ocrs Konqueror and flash does work, do you have a compatiable video card?22:33
jhutchins_wko0Chris0o: Compatible with flash?22:34
crso0Chris0o: Nvidia.22:34
o0Chris0onVidia has known problems22:35
o0Chris0oI have one too :)22:35
o0Chris0otry..22:35
o0Chris0o!nvidia22:35
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto22:35
toensi'm trying to set up samba but it says "SMB and NFS servers are not installed on this machine". i can't find how to install the servers, help?22:36
alesanhi, I have started the procedure to upgrade to hardy, now the adept updater crashes22:37
alesanand I am not sure what to do to continue the procedure22:37
alesanis there a command line to continue?22:37
alesanI think it has downloaded all the packages22:37
psycoWhere is my USB webcam located??22:38
yamentry "sudo apt-get update"22:38
alesanyamen: it quickly donwloads the updates but exists without errors22:38
crso0Chris0o: Is not working, nvidia is working proparly...22:38
alesanand without version upgrade22:38
yamenis it set to download only without intalling in settings?22:39
yamenafter apt-get update try again in adept manager22:40
crsand opera is doing the same ;/22:41
crsshows gray square where player should be22:41
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yamenif you want to install a package from the command line directly, then use "sudo apt-get install packagename"22:42
FirefisheI'm using KDE 3.5.6,  Kubuntu Feisty.  I can't sync my Sony Clie PEG-TJ37.  I get this output from kpilot's log:  http://pastebin.org/3624522:42
alesanyamen: same crash after apt-get update22:43
Firefisheoops...gotta go, time for a job interview:  I'll brb.22:43
yamenif you can see the package name that you are installing , use sudo apt-get install packagename22:43
wesleyguys can i get kde122:49
sigma_1234anyone running amarok 2 here?22:50
sigma_1234amarok22:50
shane_does anyone know if when i use "sudo apt-get install openssh-" do i put server on the pc i want server and client on others22:51
shane_or server on all22:51
andre__hello22:54
favroshane_: server on the comp you connect to22:54
andre__whats your fellings about new kubuntu?22:54
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shane_favro: ok so my main comp i dont have to run the open ssh-server at all just use fish in konqueror22:55
sigma_1234kde4 is pretty gud22:55
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favroshane_: yep22:55
shane_favro: but run the open on the computer im gonna take from22:56
favroshane_: server on the comp you connect to - client on the comp you connect from22:56
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shane_favro: ok now i get it and can the server access the client and viseverse can i use to swap back and forth22:58
shane_favro: ?my client can take from serve i did that earlier can the serve take from client also22:59
favroshane_: to connect to a comp it needs the server part running23:00
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shane_favro: ok so can i run both my pc as server then23:02
NetEchohas anyone had any issues with using wubi to install Kubuntu and Kubuntu-KDE4?23:03
favroshane_: to connect from either one you'll have to23:03
shane_favro: okTY23:04
favronp23:04
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wesleyi need konqueror debuging how can i find it i am using kde4 version23:05
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favrowesley: KDE 4 support in #kubuntu-kde423:06
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aaroncampbellDoes anyone know of a screen capture app like ksnapshot that does not remove the cursor from the shot?  I'm showing some drag and drop functionality, and it looks funky with no mouse doing the dragging23:11
ScorpKingdid the compiz stuff change in 8.04?23:15
ZefirLet's say I just set up my color theme and desktop and everything juuust right. Any way to save it as a theme?23:16
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puinl23:22
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madberryany body else having major problems with Firefox 3.0b5?23:35
madberrymine crashes23:35
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robeph_http://metasploit.com/users/hdm/tools/debian-openssl/tcv80ipepkza7.jpg =o23:38
robeph_anyone have any idea why when  ishut down23:39
robeph_it just sits there?23:39
robeph_it'll close everything kde goes down,   but then it'll never shutdown23:39
someon1is there a nice app out there that lets you see your free HD space graphically?23:43
sethsomeon1, kdirstat is the name i believe23:48
sigma_how do you force a apt-get install and ignore missing dependencies?23:55
shane_Odd-rationale:  hey its locked on the blue screen with working mouse no system23:55
Odd-rationaleshane_: the blue login screen? or BSOD?23:56
nosrednaekimsigma_: -F I think23:56
shane_i got login and password and then same thing as ubuntu it locks while trying to load desktop just blue screen23:57
shane_Odd-rationale:   i got login and password and then same thing as ubuntu it locks while trying to load desktop just blue screen23:57
nosrednaekimsigma_: sorry, -m23:57
shane_Odd-rationale: no error this time23:57
Odd-rationaleshane_: head over to #Odd-rationale and we'll try to get things fixed...23:57
BluesKajsigma_, are you using alien to install an rpm file ?23:57

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