=== yuriy_ is now known as yuriy === mhollisjr is now known as Fritzel [03:37] would you like to see my error message?I'm having problems on upgrading [03:37] please check this out @ http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/8562/screenshothardygk6.png [04:20] !find kglobal.h [04:20] Package/file kglobal.h does not exist in hardy [04:22] DanaG: kdelibs5-dev: /usr/lib/kde4/include/kglobal.h kdelibs4-dev: /usr/include/kde/kglobal.h [04:23] Thanks. [04:23] the !find function is a little broken atm [04:23] Aah, so that's it. [04:23] Perhaps temporarily modify the bot to say "sorry, !find is broken at the moment" [04:23] tried, just broke it more :p [04:24] Eek. [04:24] I'm trying to fix it anyway [04:58] hey ll [04:58] *all [04:58] excited about ubuntu 8.10? [04:58] how would i download the alpha version of ubuntu 8.10? [04:59] It's not alpha [04:59] so.. you wouldn't [05:00] pre-alpha then [05:00] you shouldn't. [05:00] I am a developer and I want to help out. [05:01] I know how to program. How do I become an ubuntu 8.10 developer? [05:01] hydrogen do you even know or are you just wasting my time? [05:01] of course I know [05:01] butg [05:02] I also know [05:02] that you don't want to [05:02] that is, the fact that you have to ask [05:02] means that you are not in a position where you should want to do so [05:03] I want to. I want to have a completly non-functional system and I want to spend the next 5 months or so perfecting it if you don't min. [05:03] *mind [05:04] perhaps I've watched too many detective shows lately, but your handle doesn't quite match up to your story [05:04] I did my best to try not to bother you guys in here but so far #alsa ##linux #wine #pulseaudio and #ubuntu have ignored my question or not had any idea what the problem is for an hour and I know you are some knowledgeable people so I'm hoping someone will be willing to look at this .asoundrc http://pastebin.com/d1976b3de and give me some hint as to why the pcm.pulse and ctl.pulse are selectable in wine but are not putting out a [05:04] ny sound === mhollisjr is now known as Fritzel [05:05] vhaarr, CSI im guessing? [05:05] that was just meant as a musing remark :P [05:05] Monk, actually [05:05] Does anybody know where I can get the screwed up version of ubuntu 8.10? [05:05] ←_← [05:05] Fritzel: here's a tip; don't change your nick right after posting a question [05:06] lol [05:06] →_→ ↑_↑ ↓_↓ [05:06] Neo_The_User: install hardy and change sources.list [05:06] vhaarr, yeah sorry about that >< [05:06] i have Hardy [05:06] Fritzel: in any case, there's a patch/sound dll/something for wine somewhere that makes it use pulseaudio [05:06] I am using that [05:06] it's a registry entry [05:06] and it shows up in the application [05:06] but no sound is being pushed through it [05:07] I'm quite sure it's a binary blob of some sort [05:07] an actual pulseaudio driver for wine, you see [05:07] vhaarr, that would definatly be useful [05:07] where is sources.list [05:07] i just want to fix the source code for ubuntu 8.10 [05:07] Fritzel: I know I have read about it in some WWN issue, the wine weekly newsletter [05:08] Neo_The_User: I just want fried chicken and icecream [05:08] me too [05:08] vhaarr, that's a step in a direction I can take, thank you I didn't have a clue what to look for previously [05:08] where is sources.list [05:08] Neo_The_User: heard of find, locate, google? [05:08] man [05:08] very funny [05:08] I didn't mean to be funny [05:08] I meant to point you in the direction of the tools you need to find sources.list [05:09] Frankly, if you need to ask where sources.list is, you may not know what to do if (and when) something breaks. [05:09] atc/ yada yada yada [05:09] I am a programmer. new to linux old to C source code [05:09] I've used development versions for a while, but I don't usually "hop on" until I see at least some new feature or package version, and not just a new toolchain. [05:10] etc/apt/sources.list [05:10] took you 1 minute to find it [05:10] as I said [05:10] you don't want to upgrade [05:10] no i mean where do i edit the sources.list file??? [05:10] because this isn't a support channel (tm) [05:10] s/\?\?\?/\?/g [05:11] hydrogen your not helping [05:11] right [05:11] thats intentional [05:11] so shut up [05:11] though in reality [05:11] I am helping [05:11] Neo_The_User: you just said it yourself, where sources.list is [05:11] yeah. exactly what part? [05:11] i cant find the place where i change the stuff [05:12] software sources then what? [05:13] ... [05:13] do you guys want ubuntu 8.10 more stable or not??????? [05:13] Not if this is the price to pay [05:13] all i know is C and C++ Java and HTML [05:13] thats it. completly new to linux. [05:13] right [05:13] you just have to tell me some 2 sentence stuff [05:14] Fritzel: also note that I've uninstalled all pulseaudio packages except "libpulse0", and everything works fine here, I just use ALSA instead. [05:14] if you would just cooperate and tell me a few tiny little things [05:14] then you would be asking in five minutes for help [05:14] Fritzel: run wow, ventrilo, totem and audacity mostly [05:14] because thigns are broken [05:14] vhaarr, that was my original intent, however it didn't work for me [05:14] if its code i can fix it [05:14] Neo_The_User: it's not code [05:14] I highly doubt that, for one [05:14] Fritzel: okay, well it worked here :P [05:14] "Only developers comfortable with significant instability and recovering from up to, and including, total system failure should consider running Intrepid for now" [05:14] for two, that comes from the topic [05:15] I am comfortable with it [05:15] no, you're not [05:15] vhaarr, and I'm so close to getting it to work in a way I know will work if I can juts find someone who actually knows how a .asoundrc is constructed :/ [05:15] FAR from it, in fact [05:15] Fritzel: I've never had a customized .asoundrc [05:15] just tell me some 2 basic things. i go into software sources and do what? [05:15] its a very easy question [05:15] Fritzel: clean hdd, installed hardy, nuked pulseaudio = win [05:15] * hydrogen wobblies his kopete window into expose view [05:16] Neo_The_User: I've provided you with sufficient information already [05:16] if you can't figure it out from there, I suggest you venture elsewhere [05:16] no u didnt [05:16] software sources then what? [05:16] You are so clearly not an experienced c coder.. [05:16] im in software sources. JUST TELL ME!!!!!!!!!! [05:16] im all over google dumb shit [05:16] * MugginsM checks he's in #ubuntu+1, not #ubuntu [05:17] well besides uninstalling pulseaudio what did you have to do to switch to alsa, because I just reinstalled and with the exception of my /home directory I'm 3 hours fresh [05:17] known for psp hacking and developing [05:17] oh damn [05:17] vhaarr, just change it in sound preferences? [05:17] and ps3 kernel exploits [05:17] Fritzel: yeah in winecfg [05:17] wine sucks ass [05:17] * hydrogen giggles [05:17] what did I do! [05:17] Fritzel: been a while since I did it now, perhaps there was another step that I forget [05:18] Fritzel: in any case, I am *positive* that if you read the last 5-6 WWN issues, you'll find a binary pulseaudio for wine [05:18] vhaarr, well I havn't done it yet, I just want to make sure I can get back to this point because right now everything works except for wine, in perfect harmony [05:18] vhaarr, and they would be hosted on winehq? [05:18] s/pulseaudio/pulseaudio driver/ [05:19] Fritzel: yes, wwn is hosted on winehq [05:19] that's all from me, good luck [05:20] I understand thank you, -googles for wwn since winehq has no apparent links [05:20] except the one that was staring me in the face >< [05:21] I found it thanks again [05:22] im downloading it right now [05:22] you could have just told me to check some stuff [05:23] Why bother going to Intrepid this early? So far there are no user-visible changes, I believe. [05:23] You can probably test the same Wine thing on Hardy, right? [05:23] but im going to make it better [05:23] depends on the user :) [05:23] wine sucks. i could make a better windows emulator than that. if fact, anybody here could. [05:24] oh this has potential [05:24] Amaranth, i bet you could even make a better windows emulator [05:24] if wine is so good, howcome it can't run anymore than 0.000000000000000001 of the windows applications? [05:24] 1/10 [05:24] you can do better [05:24] runs more than Vists does [05:24] Neo_The_User: I seem to remember you being banned [05:25] Amaranth yeah big deal. i have 30 proxies set up [05:25] i always get banned so i come prepared [05:25] then its 30 bans from the network for you! [05:26] he's probably in #mirc+1 demanding to know how to set up another proxy [05:27] hehe [05:27] no way dood [05:27] he's a c coder === mhollisjr is now known as Fritzel [07:16] is it possible the packages.ubuntu.com pages were not updated for a week? === mhollisjr is now known as Fritzel`` [08:01] !intrepid [08:01] Alpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex | Warning lots of breaking software and other good stuff between now and October! [09:34] where can i download ibex? [09:35] don't [09:35] stdin: i want to try it, i have a spare [09:36] see the topic [09:36] stdin: i can read [09:36] then you should know how to get it [09:36] ok fine === jussio1 is now known as jussi01 === fdd-0 is now known as fdd [13:39] there is no ibex live cds yet, is there? [14:24] is the toolchain built yet? === Fritzel`` is now known as Fritzel === lakin_ is now known as lakin [16:18] What changes are in Ibex? [16:18] Or will be? [16:19] unknown [16:19] you'll know around may 20th [16:19] Alright, makes sense. [16:19] When will it be beta? [16:19] october 2nd [16:20] Thanks. :) === roe is now known as roe_ [17:38] 'at' depends on a MTA in the latest package update, which installs "citadel-mta" by default if you don't have an MTA installed [17:38] however, citadel-mta is not a supported package [17:39] postfix is, so it should be the default MTA, I think [17:39] in any case, I don't believe any ubuntu developers would be present here [17:39] so I'm not sure why I bother saying it [17:40] citadel-mta also depends on the citadel server package, which is very inconvenient if you prefer not running a Citadel server on your desktop === Sebast1an is now known as Sebastian === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn === Jaymac is now known as world === world is now known as Jaymac === idleone is now known as IdleOne === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak