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ethana2ah07:12
ethana2I've made a mess of my themes with gedit again07:13
ethana2I understand you're here to make artwork for ubuntu07:13
ethana2would you recommend a different channel for theme related questions?07:13
ethana2I want to use the glossy theme for everything07:16
ethana2widgets and window decorations07:16
ethana2I want my title bars to be 12 pixels thick07:17
ethana2right now they're like 807:17
ethana2oh no, human and glossy are different /all/ through them07:18
ethana2and I've screwed them both over royally07:18
ethana2before I knew I could do half the stuff with gconf-editor07:18
ethana2so I broke everything and am using the 'simple' window decoration theme /because/ it ignores my settings07:20
ethana2working around myself..  *rubs forehead*07:20
ethana2ok, where do I get a non-borked /usr/share/themes/$THEME/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml for Glossy and Human?07:21
ethana2Is there a command I can use to reconfigure my theme information?07:24
DanaGethana2: I can put my stock ones on my Cal Poly web space temporarily.07:27
DanaGOr you can purge and reinstall the package.07:28
ethana2DanaG: what package name?07:28
ethana2for the glossy and human themes?07:28
* ethana2 searches07:28
DanaGwww.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette07:29
DanaGI just put the whole folders Human and Glossy there.07:29
ethana2thanks, DanaG07:30
ethana2I'm nearing perfection with my gui!07:30
ethana2wget puts things in the current folder, right?07:31
ethana2yeah07:31
ethana2I hope it handles overwriting well07:31
DanaGYou can use a browser and just copy the metacity xml.07:32
ethana2yeah, I'll do that07:33
ethana2drat, still messed up07:35
ethana2whatever have I done?07:36
DanaGHmm, you may have to kill gnome-settings-daemon to force it to reload the theme.07:37
ethana2ah07:38
ethana2ok, I did that, still messed up07:39
ethana2wow, what a number I did07:39
ethana2better document the part that did what I wanted07:39
ethana2alright, well, I'm going to reinstall soon I guess07:43
ethana2got all my working changes in my email account07:43
ethana2thanks, rock on, and good day.07:44
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DShepherdfedora art is not bad at all17:18
DShepherdwhat do you think of it?17:18
troy_sDShepherd: Completely ass.17:21
troy_sDShepherd: In the typical IRC response.  ;)17:21
DShepherdhehehe17:22
troy_sDShepherd: More appropriately 1) Lacking a clear message, 2) Lacking solid execution, 3) Lacking any sort of emotional evocation / etc.17:22
DShepherdtroy_s, interesting..17:23
troy_sDShepherd: and all of the byproducts... monochromatic tedium, and on and on.  Rather like Ubuntu's Feisty.17:23
troy_s(And previous incarnations)17:23
DanaGYou can also compare SuSE 10.3's ugly blandness to 10.2, 10.1, 10.0, and even 9.3 and 9.217:29
DanaGEach was less "distinctive" than the previous.17:29
DanaGhttp://www.ffnn.nl/pages/gallery/startup-services76.php -- from 9.3 version; shows how their KDE splash matches their bootsplash.17:31
troy_sDanaG: Amen!17:34
troy_sDanaG: The obvious 'oops' was letting Diana Fong go from Fedora.  SUSEs problems are systemic.17:36
troy_sDanaG: I suppose ultimately it is this strange 'old school' FOSS attitude of sticking with this uber-functionality based approach.17:36
troy_sDanaG: The real-world problem with that is that while it might work great for those zealots of the Swiss Style, computers aren't appliances.17:36
troy_sDanaG: They are living spaces where people work, live, communicate, share, be emotional, and so on.17:37
DanaGhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/gallery/main.php -- useful reference.17:37
DanaGToo bad so few sites get screenshots of bootsplash or GDM themes.17:37
troy_sDanaG: More difficult perhaps as not all of them are run in a virtual machine (regarding bootsplashes)17:38
DanaGAah.17:42
DanaGI do still kind of wish Ubuntu would use fbsplash, so we could have styled console backgrounds.17:43
DanaGUsplash can actually still run on top of it.17:43
troy_sDanaG: Things will happen eventually.  The problem is that Ubuntu is still quite small in terms of dev team (something like 70 (?) versus 2000 Red Hats)17:44
_MMA_Usplash needs to be scrapped. I've heard it a couple of times at UDS. Either that or overhauled. It's severely limited in resolution and color depth.17:46
savvasnow *this* is a map :P http://en.opensuse.org/Image:OS11.0beta3-live-inst3.png17:49
DanaGOh yeah, it's weird: I had thought that the changing wallpaper thing was causing periodic flickering on my display... then I finally realized it's actually my display itself.17:49
troy_sLOL17:49
DanaGGot day-night cycle?  "Ah! My Goddess Ending 2 - Wing"17:49
DanaGhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB70vGTigh017:49
troy_sGood christ I am going to be sick.17:50
DanaGHuh?17:51
troy_sThat video.  I think I just had a seizure.17:52
DanaGWhy?17:52
DanaGGranted, it was kind of random.17:52
DanaGer, my linking to it was kind of randm.17:53
DanaGrandom.17:53
_MMA_DanaG: By my count its like the 3rd time. Something tells me you're a kid who wants attention. ;)17:54
savvasum.. does anyone have an picture of goat footprints on the ground?17:54
DanaGI do tend to forget what I've mentioned before.17:55
troy_ssavvas: Are you needing an authentic image or something to build off of?17:56
savvastroy_s: not necessary to be authentic, but i need an ibex-like footprint, I got an idea for a wallpaper for the future release17:58
troy_ssavvas: Uh... let me find an animal anatomy reference from my lib... hold tight.18:00
savvasgreat! :)18:00
troy_sYou want just a print or the hoof?18:00
savvasboth if you dont mind :)18:01
savvasI'm having some trouble with the rear end of my "ibex" :p18:01
troy_ssavvas: Hrm... 1) I don't know if I can find a print, but it isn't a big deal.18:02
troy_ssavvas: 2) Do you want a study on hind quarters for that morph of beast?18:02
savvashttp://savvas.radevic.com/previews/ubuntu-ibex/ubuntu-ibex-0.2.png18:02
savvasmm just the hoof then, troy_s18:03
DanaGThat reminds me oddly much of the HP "HDX Dragon" wallpaper -- it has a similar white band with logo, and a similar liney background.18:04
savvasyes DanaG :P18:05
DanaGAnd I know I've linked to it... so I won't repeat that link.18:05
troy_ssavvas: Hrm... that's odd... I seem to remember a book with a study on hooves... apparently I am remembering the wrong darn book.18:05
savvastroy_s: anything to get me started :)18:05
savvasI'm thinking of loosing the footprints and placing a huge ibex face instead18:06
savvasbut oh well.. i got a lot of time to work it through hehe18:07
savvastroy_s: if you remember the book's name highlight me with it and with the author's name if you can, I have to run, thanks :)18:09
DanaGOOh, second-edition Hardy Heron t-shirt.18:10
DanaGYay.18:10
troy_ssavvas: Just scanning.18:11
DanaGI think that wallpaper would look better without the large text.18:12
_MMA_And the blur.18:13
_MMA_And different colors.18:14
_MMA_And without the Ubuntu/Tux logo.18:14
troy_s_MMA_: LOL18:14
DanaG=รพ18:17
DanaG"thorn" character rocks.18:17
o0Chris0ohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibex21:01

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