[07:12] ah [07:13] I've made a mess of my themes with gedit again [07:13] I understand you're here to make artwork for ubuntu [07:13] would you recommend a different channel for theme related questions? [07:16] I want to use the glossy theme for everything [07:16] widgets and window decorations [07:17] I want my title bars to be 12 pixels thick [07:17] right now they're like 8 [07:18] oh no, human and glossy are different /all/ through them [07:18] and I've screwed them both over royally [07:18] before I knew I could do half the stuff with gconf-editor [07:20] so I broke everything and am using the 'simple' window decoration theme /because/ it ignores my settings [07:20] working around myself.. *rubs forehead* [07:21] ok, where do I get a non-borked /usr/share/themes/$THEME/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml for Glossy and Human? [07:24] Is there a command I can use to reconfigure my theme information? [07:27] ethana2: I can put my stock ones on my Cal Poly web space temporarily. [07:28] Or you can purge and reinstall the package. [07:28] DanaG: what package name? [07:28] for the glossy and human themes? [07:28] * ethana2 searches [07:29] www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette [07:29] I just put the whole folders Human and Glossy there. [07:30] thanks, DanaG [07:30] I'm nearing perfection with my gui! [07:31] wget puts things in the current folder, right? [07:31] yeah [07:31] I hope it handles overwriting well [07:32] You can use a browser and just copy the metacity xml. [07:33] yeah, I'll do that [07:35] drat, still messed up [07:36] whatever have I done? [07:37] Hmm, you may have to kill gnome-settings-daemon to force it to reload the theme. [07:38] ah [07:39] ok, I did that, still messed up [07:39] wow, what a number I did [07:39] better document the part that did what I wanted [07:43] alright, well, I'm going to reinstall soon I guess [07:43] got all my working changes in my email account [07:44] thanks, rock on, and good day. === Erosion is now known as erosion === erosion is now known as Erosion === thorwil_ is now known as thorwil [17:18] fedora art is not bad at all [17:18] what do you think of it? [17:21] DShepherd: Completely ass. [17:21] DShepherd: In the typical IRC response. ;) [17:22] hehehe [17:22] DShepherd: More appropriately 1) Lacking a clear message, 2) Lacking solid execution, 3) Lacking any sort of emotional evocation / etc. [17:23] troy_s, interesting.. [17:23] DShepherd: and all of the byproducts... monochromatic tedium, and on and on. Rather like Ubuntu's Feisty. [17:23] (And previous incarnations) [17:29] You can also compare SuSE 10.3's ugly blandness to 10.2, 10.1, 10.0, and even 9.3 and 9.2 [17:29] Each was less "distinctive" than the previous. [17:31] http://www.ffnn.nl/pages/gallery/startup-services76.php -- from 9.3 version; shows how their KDE splash matches their bootsplash. [17:34] DanaG: Amen! [17:36] DanaG: The obvious 'oops' was letting Diana Fong go from Fedora. SUSEs problems are systemic. [17:36] DanaG: I suppose ultimately it is this strange 'old school' FOSS attitude of sticking with this uber-functionality based approach. [17:36] DanaG: The real-world problem with that is that while it might work great for those zealots of the Swiss Style, computers aren't appliances. [17:37] DanaG: They are living spaces where people work, live, communicate, share, be emotional, and so on. [17:37] http://www.tuxmachines.org/gallery/main.php -- useful reference. [17:37] Too bad so few sites get screenshots of bootsplash or GDM themes. [17:38] DanaG: More difficult perhaps as not all of them are run in a virtual machine (regarding bootsplashes) [17:42] Aah. [17:43] I do still kind of wish Ubuntu would use fbsplash, so we could have styled console backgrounds. [17:43] Usplash can actually still run on top of it. [17:44] DanaG: Things will happen eventually. The problem is that Ubuntu is still quite small in terms of dev team (something like 70 (?) versus 2000 Red Hats) [17:46] <_MMA_> Usplash needs to be scrapped. I've heard it a couple of times at UDS. Either that or overhauled. It's severely limited in resolution and color depth. [17:49] now *this* is a map :P http://en.opensuse.org/Image:OS11.0beta3-live-inst3.png [17:49] Oh yeah, it's weird: I had thought that the changing wallpaper thing was causing periodic flickering on my display... then I finally realized it's actually my display itself. [17:49] LOL [17:49] Got day-night cycle? "Ah! My Goddess Ending 2 - Wing" [17:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB70vGTigh0 [17:50] Good christ I am going to be sick. [17:51] Huh? [17:52] That video. I think I just had a seizure. [17:52] Why? [17:52] Granted, it was kind of random. [17:53] er, my linking to it was kind of randm. [17:53] random. [17:54] <_MMA_> DanaG: By my count its like the 3rd time. Something tells me you're a kid who wants attention. ;) [17:54] um.. does anyone have an picture of goat footprints on the ground? [17:55] I do tend to forget what I've mentioned before. [17:56] savvas: Are you needing an authentic image or something to build off of? [17:58] troy_s: not necessary to be authentic, but i need an ibex-like footprint, I got an idea for a wallpaper for the future release [18:00] savvas: Uh... let me find an animal anatomy reference from my lib... hold tight. [18:00] great! :) [18:00] You want just a print or the hoof? [18:01] both if you dont mind :) [18:01] I'm having some trouble with the rear end of my "ibex" :p [18:02] savvas: Hrm... 1) I don't know if I can find a print, but it isn't a big deal. [18:02] savvas: 2) Do you want a study on hind quarters for that morph of beast? [18:02] http://savvas.radevic.com/previews/ubuntu-ibex/ubuntu-ibex-0.2.png [18:03] mm just the hoof then, troy_s [18:04] That reminds me oddly much of the HP "HDX Dragon" wallpaper -- it has a similar white band with logo, and a similar liney background. [18:05] yes DanaG :P [18:05] And I know I've linked to it... so I won't repeat that link. [18:05] savvas: Hrm... that's odd... I seem to remember a book with a study on hooves... apparently I am remembering the wrong darn book. [18:05] troy_s: anything to get me started :) [18:06] I'm thinking of loosing the footprints and placing a huge ibex face instead [18:07] but oh well.. i got a lot of time to work it through hehe [18:09] troy_s: if you remember the book's name highlight me with it and with the author's name if you can, I have to run, thanks :) [18:10] OOh, second-edition Hardy Heron t-shirt. [18:10] Yay. [18:11] savvas: Just scanning. [18:12] I think that wallpaper would look better without the large text. [18:13] <_MMA_> And the blur. [18:14] <_MMA_> And different colors. [18:14] <_MMA_> And without the Ubuntu/Tux logo. [18:14] _MMA_: LOL [18:17] =รพ [18:17] "thorn" character rocks. [21:01] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibex