/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/05/15/#ubuntu-mythtv.txt

momelodgreeting chanel00:06
SolarbabyHello momelod00:06
momelodneed a quick hand, i did a dist-upgrade to 8.04 and now my ivtv drivers wont load the firmware?00:07
TelnetMantacan anyone tell me how to fix my display from a alt terminal in mythbuntu?00:26
TelnetMantaI tried fix x from recovery mode and its not working00:26
Solarbabydo you have a backup of your xorg.conf?00:27
Solarbabycd /etc/X11 edit xorg.conf to the default.. there is probably an old xorg.conf.1 or something as a backup in that directory00:27
WcktKlwnfor some reason my sound card was renamed from /dev/alsa to /dev/alsa1, how do I get it back to /dev/alsa?00:47
Solarbabysuperm1: alright looks like I've done well so far with lirc.. the script was a little different then I remember it from 6 months back..00:56
ddgooseok I recompiled my ignyte with an added arg --server , it works. should I send a patch upstream to the author, or how would that be handled?01:08
tgm4883_laptopddgoose, possibly put it here http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5165  if it doesn't fit that, then open a new bug and put the fix there01:10
ddgooseThat ticket ataches to the hacked googlemovies version of Mythmovies01:14
ddgoosehmm dropping keys01:14
ddgoosetime to change batteries01:14
ddgoosethanks for the answer to my where to go question though ;)01:15
ddgoosehmm, launchpad has a bug entry for it, but mythtv does not.01:16
ddgoosewould you classify a bug that crashes frontend to desktop "critical" or "blocker"?01:23
tgm4883_laptoper01:26
tgm4883_laptopwhats below critical01:27
tgm4883_laptopit's not a blocker01:27
tgm4883_laptopbetter yet01:27
tgm4883_laptopsec01:27
tgm4883_laptoppost the fix here https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/23024001:27
tgm4883_laptopthen it can get forwarded upstream01:28
tgm4883_laptopsorry about telling you 2 different things01:28
ddgoosedone01:42
SolarbabyI'm running Mythbuntu 8.04 on a Toshiba A45 Laptop..  I've noticed that the cooling fans turn off and don't come back on..  Yuck..   anyone have any ideas?01:46
SolarbabyI'd be thrilled with a always on feature01:47
ddgooseSolarbaby any bios overrides?02:03
SolarbabyI didn't see any..02:04
Solarbabyreally sucky bios02:04
SolarbabyI just found an interesting thread in the ubuntuguide.org02:04
Solarbaby1m-sensors02:04
Solarbabyand gkrellm02:05
Solarbabyi'll see if I can install both of those02:05
SolarbabyI'm really glad I had an extra cooling plate sitting around02:06
ddgooseapt-get install toshset02:07
ddgoosetry that02:07
Solarbabyalright02:07
ddgoosedinner back in a bit02:08
SolarbabyHey Thank you02:08
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Solarbabythis looks good02:08
ddgoose-AFKno problem02:09
Solarbabygo figure toshset will not control my fan.. it gets an error02:22
SolarbabyHciFeature::query: received an unexpected response for feature fan: 6402:22
JDStoneI need ffmpeg with mp3 support, do i need to recompile ffmpeg with mp3 support?02:28
rhpot1991_laptopJDStone: enable medibuntu02:33
Solarbabyim kind of up the creek with toshset02:33
Solarbabyim kind of up the creek with ubuntu if I can't get something to keep my fan spinning02:33
JDStonehow do I do that?02:36
JDStonerhpot1991_laptop: how do I do that?02:36
JDStonerhpot1991_laptop: I think I got it02:37
JDStonethanks!02:37
rhpot1991_laptopno problem02:41
rhpot1991_laptoptgm4883_laptop: still here?02:44
rhpot1991_laptopanyone ever see any remotes that seem to record different buttons with the same codes?02:45
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tgm4883_laptoprhpot1991_laptop, never seen that.  Unless they are mapped to the same thing02:56
rhpot1991_laptopwell I don't think they are02:56
rhpot1991_laptopits happening randomly02:56
rhpot1991_laptopI've tried 4 or so different codes already02:57
rhpot1991_laptopcan you think of any way to verify it?02:57
tgm4883_laptopsave the file, try recording them  again.  If they come up with the same values then thats what is happening.  If they come up with different values then it's random (which means it's something else)02:59
tgm4883_laptopor you could try a different ir receiver03:00
rhpot1991_laptopodd, just had another dupe with this here other universal remote that I know works03:01
rhpot1991_laptopwonder if maybe I'm getting interference from the light by the tv or someting03:01
rhpot1991_laptopI do have a mceusb receiver downstairs that I'm not using, but its even harder to find codes that work for that :(03:02
crazy_busI like mythtv but I don't like it loading everything automatically when I turn the computer on.  How do I stop that?03:21
TazgodXwhats a good DVD burner for my mythtv box?04:05
TazgodXi was thinking of one without a tray04:05
TazgodXif they still make them :)04:06
rhpot1991_laptopI got a liteon sata one from newegg for $20smoe04:07
rhpot1991_laptopnoisy at top speed, but once myth controls the speed its quiet04:07
TazgodXdo they make DVD drives that don't have trays? i know you can get them prebuilt in comptuers but i don't see any for sale04:10
rhpot1991_laptopI'm sure they do04:10
rhpot1991_laptop"slot loading" I think is what they would be called04:10
TazgodXslot loading...i was looking up front loading :)04:10
TazgodXfound a lot of washers that way tho04:11
TazgodXyeah, surprisingly i can't find crap lol04:16
TazgodXmy DVD drive is weird,and its the only thing i can find to blame on not being able to install recent releases of unbuntu04:27
TazgodXthe old versions work fine. but new ones wont. they give me errors. and if i put an old drive in it works fine.04:28
TazgodXstupid new drive04:28
crazy_busI like mythtv but I don't like it loading everything automatically when I turn the computer on. How do I stop that?04:33
rhpot1991_laptopcrazy_bus: there is an option for that in MCC04:37
crazy_busrhpot1991 where abouts is that.  I can't see an option to do that.  The closest is system services (that I can see) but that's not what I'm looking for04:39
rhpot1991_laptopcrazy_bus: artwork & login behavior04:43
crazy_busrhpot1991 automatic login is unchecked and the rest are grayed out ?04:44
rhpot1991_laptopit says "automatically start mythtv...."04:46
rhpot1991_laptopuncheck that04:46
crazy_busrhpot1991 it already is unchecked.  But it's for a mythbuntu standalone session.  What I want to do is stop mythbackend and other things opening up automatically on my regular session.04:48
rhpot1991why do you want to stop the backend?04:51
rhpot1991frontend is all you should need to worry about04:52
crazy_busrhpot1991 it annoys me that it loads without me telling it when to :)04:52
rhpot1991but thats the point04:53
rhpot1991so its always there to record04:53
rhpot1991and you don't forget to start it04:53
crazy_busrhpot1991 it steals the tvcard even when it's not recording so I can't quickly browse on other programs04:54
rhpot1991I'm not entirely sure thats right, but it could be a hardware thing.  Why don't you just browse with myth?04:55
crazy_busrhpot1991 it's a lot slower to change channels and easier to multitask05:01
rhpot1991foxbuntu: ping05:01
foxbunturhpot1991, pong05:04
* foxbuntu wonders why rhpot1991 is pinging him05:04
foxbuntu:)05:05
rhpot1991hoping you can save me from destroying something05:05
foxbuntuuh oh05:05
rhpot1991also to inform you about edwards if you didn't know already05:05
foxbuntuwhats that?05:05
foxbuntulike I would miss that05:05
rhpot1991I got me some philips universal remotes from woot05:05
foxbuntuI was dancing on the ashes of the clinton campaign05:05
rhpot1991went and told it to be a philips vcr which the hauppauge ir receiver can see (did this with my one-for-all in the past)05:06
rhpot1991now I go to irrecord it, and random buttons are the same :(05:06
rhpot1991the hex codes for them are real short as well05:06
rhpot1991its driving me crazy, also I hate phillips cause they don't have any codes I need and told me to contact the manufacturers of the devices for them05:06
foxbunturhpot1991, pastebin some of it05:06
rhpot1991foxbuntu: I think I deleted it but I can go try again and do so05:07
rhpot1991I just discovered mode2 though, gonna see what that does05:07
foxbuntuk05:07
rhpot1991clinton is still spreading her 2210 number crap too05:22
rhpot1991_laptopfoxbuntu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12189/05:32
* foxbuntu dances on clinton's campaign ashes05:37
foxbunturhpot1991_laptop, thats strange that up/down are the same05:38
foxbuntubut the hex codes are ok05:38
SolarbabyH.Clinton ate my cousins baby05:38
* tritium is glad politics is offtopic in #ubuntu05:40
foxbuntu!topic | tritium05:41
foxbuntulol05:41
SolarbabyGenerally I dont discuss politcs..  But we lost a perfectly delicious baby05:41
rhpot1991_laptopsuperm1 isn't here to yell at us so its ok :)05:41
rhpot1991_laptopfoxbuntu: except those aren't the right codes05:41
foxbunturhpot1991, oh?05:42
rhpot1991_laptopif I look at it with mode2 I clearly see different codes05:42
rhpot1991_laptopbut its doing something funny there, if I press let go and press again05:42
rhpot1991_laptopit alternates numbers05:42
foxbunturhpot1991_laptop, why not just teach your universal normal codes?05:42
rhpot1991_laptopI should go see what my mce remote does for that05:42
rhpot1991_laptopfoxbuntu: what kind of codes?05:42
foxbuntufrom your mce05:42
foxbuntuthats what I did05:42
rhpot1991_laptopwell this one isn't mce but thats a whole nother issue05:42
rhpot1991_laptopdid you have to learn them or did you find some code?05:42
rhpot1991_laptopthis one is to a pvr150 IR receiver05:43
foxbunturhpot1991_laptop, I had to learn them05:43
rhpot1991_laptopdarn05:43
rhpot1991_laptopthats what I'm looking at05:43
rhpot1991_laptopI did it last night and it was lagggggggy05:43
foxbuntuso its like 5 mins05:43
rhpot1991_laptopthought I might need to reirrecord then05:43
foxbuntuhold on a sec05:44
rhpot1991_laptopwhat kind of remote do you have?05:44
foxbuntuwife is talking to me05:44
rhpot1991_laptopok05:44
rhpot1991actually this one down here does a toggle bit too05:45
foxbuntu...ok05:45
rhpot1991maybe I can  just write my own file using the codes from mode205:45
foxbuntuso when you learned the code from your mce it laged?05:45
rhpot1991should be able to recycle most of that header info from my old lircd.conf05:45
rhpot1991ya05:45
rhpot1991I did menu stuff with both the philips and my mce05:45
rhpot1991philips is slow with them05:46
foxbuntuits slow with learned codes?05:46
rhpot1991can't do mce other than learning05:46
rhpot1991that or I can call m$ and ask them what code I need for my universal remote to do mce, but I think I'm not gonna waste my time with that05:46
rhpot1991also my remote can learn them 2 ways, either you hold them down or you press them quick05:47
rhpot1991so I'm not sure which ones to do what with05:47
foxbuntuwhich did you do?05:48
rhpot1991I *think* I did presses then05:48
foxbuntuI just did a quick press for every key on my remote05:48
rhpot1991might need to hold for the arrows05:48
rhpot1991what kind do you have?05:49
foxbuntumy uni is a camelon05:49
foxbuntuer05:49
rhpot1991thats the one for all IIRC?05:49
rhpot1991or is it rca05:49
rhpot1991one of them I think05:49
rhpot1991I guess I just need to play with my mce remote05:50
foxbuntuhttp://www.dealtime.com/xPC-ONE-FOR-ALL-KAMELEON-8-Universal-Remote-Control05:50
rhpot1991you didn't need to re irrecord when you were done?05:50
foxbuntunope05:50
rhpot1991heh, I almost bought that one a few months back05:50
rhpot1991http://www.woot.com/Blog/ViewEntry.aspx?Id=461805:50
rhpot1991thats the one I got now05:50
foxbuntuyou should just use quick presses the repeat option in lirc is what handles the delays05:50
rhpot1991thats what I figured05:51
foxbuntuoh, I almost bought one of those too05:51
rhpot1991but it just didn't feel right when I was using it05:51
rhpot1991ended up searching for my mce remote then05:51
rhpot1991I kinda wish I only got one05:51
rhpot1991as tiger and newegg have harmonys on sale right now05:51
foxbuntuyeah...I reverted back to my mce it wasnt comfortable, but I got it for $15 so no harm05:51
rhpot1991this mce is nice, but my problem is I have optical out from my mythbox now and I keep forgetting to grab the surround sound remote before I sit down05:52
foxbuntulol05:52
rhpot1991then I gotta get up and find it, disturb the dogs and the wife, sit back down05:52
foxbuntuI have learned to keep that remote close by05:53
rhpot1991then the wife wants a drink and so on05:53
rhpot1991mine cycle between 3 locations, but when you have 4 of them they never stay together05:53
rhpot1991I wonder what the secret is with the mce remote, why they can't have built in codes05:55
foxbuntuyeah...that will prob become a big issue if I buy this house I am looking at05:55
crazy_busI can't find mythtvbackend in kde's autostart and evn folders.  Can anyone tell me how it keeps on loading at startup so I can disable it?05:56
foxbuntucrazy_bus, its in the rc for /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend05:56
crazy_busis that the only file I delete?05:58
foxbuntucrazy_bus, delete? no dont05:58
foxbuntucrazy_bus, why do you not want it to start on boot?05:59
foxbunturhpot1991, here is the remote you need: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/remotes/universal_remotes/devices/373&cl=us,en05:59
foxbuntu:)05:59
crazy_busit annoys me.  Stealing my resources and not allowing other programs to access the tvcard half the time05:59
rhpot1991heh foxbuntu06:00
rhpot1991my masterbackend didn't even cost me that much :)06:00
foxbuntulol06:00
foxbuntumine did06:00
foxbuntulol06:00
rhpot1991at that rate I'd just buy an iPhone and complete that blueprint that I made06:00
foxbuntubut seriously, I just built a BE for a guy I work with, $800 for all the hardware including a PVR-500 and HDHR06:01
foxbuntuin an antec fusion case06:01
rhpot1991mine ran $400 something reusing some parts06:01
foxbuntuthis was all new06:01
rhpot1991reused my pvr350 and hard drives06:01
rhpot1991fusion here too, they are nice06:01
rhpot1991except that shocking the panel thing06:01
foxbuntuthis is a new user too...never used mythtv before06:02
rhpot1991black or silver?06:02
foxbuntuI think he got black06:02
rhpot1991did you set him a remote and all up with it?06:02
foxbuntuactually he already bought a logitech harmony ahead of time06:02
rhpot1991ah, did you mce that up to use the IR inside of the case or what?06:03
foxbuntuwell its going to be mce, its not built yet06:03
foxbuntuexternal ir06:03
rhpot1991thats silly, use the one inside06:03
rhpot1991unless he needs to blast06:04
foxbuntuit has one eh?06:04
rhpot1991ya06:04
foxbuntui did not know that06:04
foxbuntuwell then ok06:04
rhpot1991you don't check your bugs I guess :)06:04
foxbuntuobviously :D06:04
foxbuntudont tell superm106:04
rhpot1991https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/21596006:04
rhpot1991thats for my silver06:04
rhpot1991but should give you an idea of where to go06:05
foxbuntucool06:05
foxbuntudoes that have the knob and vfd in it?06:05
rhpot1991yep06:05
foxbuntuawesome06:06
rhpot1991mine has a vfd, I think the black has lcd06:06
foxbuntureally?06:06
rhpot1991or is it the other way around06:06
rhpot1991ya they have different displays06:06
rhpot1991all I did was installed lcdproc and changed the driver to imon06:06
rhpot1991and for the knob I just went and twisted it when I was irrecording06:06
foxbuntuwow06:06
rhpot1991knob is funny, that was the first and last time I used it06:07
foxbuntufunny how?06:07
rhpot1991funny cause its useless06:07
foxbuntuwell...yea06:08
foxbuntuI mean who gets up to change the volume on their dvr via a knob06:08
rhpot1991seriously06:08
foxbuntuI wonder what can be done with that tiny little lcd06:09
foxbuntuand what it shows up as for hardware06:10
rhpot1991there is a menu in mythtv that lets you enable and disable things06:10
rhpot1991shows you the menu you are on, how far into a recording you are06:10
rhpot1991shows you when something is recording and how far into it it is06:10
foxbuntuoh the lcdproc stuff06:11
rhpot1991the time, stuff like that06:11
foxbuntucool06:11
foxbuntuthis guy is going to love it06:11
rhpot1991ya its nice06:11
rhpot1991I wonder if the black has the problem with the front of the case like the silver does though06:11
foxbuntuand after its done another one of the guys I work with said if he likes it as much hes going to buy one06:11
rhpot1991if you touch it and shock it the lcd goes crazy06:11
rhpot1991and you need to completely cut power to make it stop06:12
foxbuntuhmm06:12
rhpot1991I've read about putting your own ground on it to fix the problem06:12
foxbuntubut silver is a vfd not lcd right?06:12
rhpot1991ya06:12
rhpot1991I say lcd loosely06:12
foxbuntuwell the specs say vfd on silver and lcd on black06:14
foxbuntuidk...06:14
rhpot1991ya that sounds right06:14
rhpot1991I just randomly call mine lcd for no good reason06:14
foxbuntumeh06:16
foxbuntuis lcdproc in our builds?06:16
rhpot1991its in ubuntu06:17
foxbuntukewl06:17
rhpot1991let me double check that lcdproc is the right package06:17
rhpot1991ii  lcdproc                                    0.5.2-0ubuntu2                                     LCD display driver daemon and clients06:17
foxbuntuyup yup06:18
Penfoldwonder if you could set up the knob as a shuttle dial for ff/rew playback?06:18
rhpot1991prob06:19
Penfoldfor proper feel it really needs springback-to-centre, though06:20
rhpot1991which it doesn't have06:21
Penfoldindeed06:21
Penfoldnot played with it - is it a completely free-rotating control, or does it have a start and stop?06:22
rhpot1991completely free I believe06:22
foxbunturhpot1991, thats how most audio receivers are now though anyways06:22
Penfold(meh, this wifi is useless, it's dropped three times in the last 10 mins)06:23
rhpot1991Penfold: drop the wifi06:23
* foxbuntu gags at the thought of the cost of the lawn mower for his potential new house06:23
rhpot1991I was only able to get mine working again by turning a $90 router into a wifi client06:23
Penfoldrhpot1991; not a lot of choice, I'm on a train :)06:23
rhpot1991ah heh, thought you meant for your mythboxes06:23
rhpot1991foxbuntu: I got a free one in PA if you want it06:23
rhpot1991prob cost more to get it to you than to get a new one06:24
foxbunturhpot1991, one like this: http://www.scag.com/turftiger.html06:24
foxbuntu:)06:24
rhpot1991not at all06:24
foxbuntulol06:24
Penfoldmythbox is fine, just need to set up IRBlaster and channel DB properly anmd I'm laughing06:24
Penfold:)06:24
foxbunturhpot1991, the house I might buy this summer sits on 8.5 acres06:24
rhpot1991thats a lot of mowing06:25
foxbuntuindeed06:25
Penfoldfoxbuntu: dear God. That's not a lawnmower... it's a SUV with delusions of grandeur06:25
foxbuntulol06:25
foxbuntuits not small but I dont want to spend 10 hours mowing the lawn once a week there either06:26
bogus-I would go to work on it if I were you :P06:26
crazy_busjust get goats to eat the lawn for you06:27
Solarbabydamnit I'm confused again..  I've got lirc configured with 2 remotes..  1 remote is the dish network satalite remote..  and its setup to simply broadcast channel changes to my satalite box...  the second remote is an xbox media center remote..  as far as I know mythtv only listens to 1 remote at a time right?  cause even though mythtv uses the dishnetwork codes to turn channels, i wanna use a seperate remote to manipulate mythtv gui06:27
bogus-http://gizmodo.com/364924/husqvarnas-autonomous-solar-powered-lawnmower-never-mow-again << I would buy those things :P06:27
rhpot1991its like a roomba for your yard06:28
rhpot1991except my roomba doesn't kill things when it runs them over06:28
bogus-things that are run over by such slow moving units are deserved to be killed >:]06:29
bogus-*deserve06:29
foxbuntulol... 7500sqft is all it can do on a charge06:31
rhpot1991ya its not really meant for a farm06:31
foxbuntuthis place Im looking at equates to about 400k sqft06:31
rhpot1991foxbuntu: you just need an army of them then06:32
foxbuntulol06:32
foxbuntuI see it now06:32
rhpot1991equip them with trebuchets and we are ready for the revolution06:32
rhpot1991except it needs to happen within 7500 feet of your place06:32
foxbuntuI could have like 50 of them running all the time06:32
foxbuntuput laser beams on them and point them strait up into the sky06:33
foxbuntuit would look like a strobe light from outer sapce06:33
foxbuntuspace*06:33
bogus-nice :)06:34
rhpot1991hopefully you can IRC from gitmo :)06:34
foxbuntugitmo?06:34
crazy_buswhat is the best way to disable mythbuntu in init.d?06:35
* rhpot1991 shakes his head at foxbuntu06:37
rhpot1991gitmo == guantanimo bay (spelling?)06:37
foxbuntuah06:38
rhpot1991and you get free govt provided health care there too :)06:38
foxbuntufrom the clinton's i suppose06:38
rhpot1991from the bush's right now, but I'm sure that wont go away any time soon06:39
foxbuntuoh thats right...clinton's are only providing free sniper fire06:39
rhpot1991I need to fix my podcast so it gets the dates that they were recorded and not when it was exported06:39
rhpot1991colbert's date is always the next day06:39
rhpot1991btw throwing everything in one bodcast works out, itunes/ipod is smart and filters them under the title of the tv show06:40
foxbuntucool06:40
Solarbaby Mythtv is configured to change the channels of my Dish Network Satalite..  so it broadcasts that particular remote codes..  that being the case..  I want to use a completely different remote to control the gui of mythtv.  Thats where I run into problems..  I dont know how to program lircd.conf for 2 remotes both working with Mythtv06:57
ddgoosein your lircrc use remote={name}07:17
ddgoosein your lircd.conf use the name form the name in your remote stanza07:17
ddgooseer07:18
ddgoosethe name for lircrc comes from the name in lircd.conf07:18
SolarbabyOkay..  so thats how it works07:20
Solarbabygunna give that a shot07:20
ddgooseo/07:20
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Solarbabyddgoose: im really frustrated over this remote deal09:46
lagamorning.09:46
SolarbabyG'Day ;)09:46
Solarbabyedit /home/user/.lircrc  Begin button = Up Arrow prog = mythtv repeat = 0 config = Up end09:48
SolarbabyI thought that should work but I messed up somewhere09:48
ddgooseSolarbaby did you mean Up_Arrow?14:09
ddgooseThink it can't have spaces maybe14:12
ddgooseSolarbaby paste your lircd.conf and lircrc -> paste.ubuntu.com so I can take a look14:41
ddgooseanyone have any opinions on -> Hauppauge pvr-350 ?15:08
sardiskanit's to expensive....15:26
ddgooseyeah15:26
sardiskan:)15:26
ddgooseI I was looking at it because it had a framebuffer on board15:26
sardiskanI thought I saw on a wiki somewhere that the 350 works but you have to do tweaking to get the extra stuff to work15:27
sardiskanI suppose similar to the FB15:27
ddgooseyou do15:27
sardiskanahh15:27
sardiskanthen I can provide you with NO helpful information that you don't already know15:27
sardiskan:)15:27
balachmarHi, I want to configure my box to boot in time for a recording and shutdown afterwards. I had this with my previous install on the same box using nvram-wakeup17:14
balachmarbut now I want to try and use acpi, but the wiki says the following location should be present: /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm17:15
balachmarBut it isn't, and that from kernel 2.6.22 or higher one should not use /proc/acpi/alarm anymore, what should I do now? (Besides just use nvram-wakeup)17:16
lagalet's see.17:21
lagainteresting, /proc/acpi/alarm still seems to be available on ubutnu17:22
balachmaralthough I am not allowed to write to it...17:22
laga# CONFIG_RTC_DRV_CMOS is not set17:22
balachmareven with sudo...17:22
lagafrom the mythtv wiki:17:23
laga"From a .config point of view CONFIG_RTC and CONFIG_GEN_RTC must be unset and, at a minimum, RTC_INTF_SYSFS must be set. "17:23
lagafrom the kernel config: CONFIG_RTC=y17:23
lagaoops17:23
lagabalachmar: sudo foo > /something won't work17:24
lagabecause the redirect is still in the user's context.17:24
laga'tee' might work17:24
balachmarooh yeah right17:24
lagaecho foo | sudo tee some-file17:24
lagadunno, never used it17:24
balachmark, brb17:25
ddgooseLaga: about the documentation, the Reference section refers to a LVM section that doesn't exist, does it need to be written? or does the reference need to be removed?17:41
lagalet me check.17:41
laga\item The information for \ref{section:lvm} was posted by apauna on the Mythbuntu forms and can be found at \url{http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=584473}17:42
laga^^ do you mean that?17:42
ddgooseone sec17:42
ddgooseyeah17:42
dispadertestDidn't that document cover post-install LVM installation?17:44
lagacomplete-manual.toc:\contentsline {subsection}{\numberline {13.1.2}Adding a Partition to an LVM Volume}{120}{subsection.13.1.2}17:45
lagaseems so17:45
lagabut it's probably superseded by storage groups in mythtv itself17:45
dispadertestWell, not to break in, but I actually found it easier to enable LVM pre-install, and was thinking about writing something up about it.17:47
lagasure, that'd be a nice addition.17:48
dispadertestHuh... cool.  It might be a couple weeks, I'm on vacation and away from the little junte of machines starting tomorrow.17:48
lagalet us know when you're back :)17:49
dispadertestHeah.  Will do.  Pleased to meet you, by the way.17:49
laga:)17:49
lagadispadertest: the alternate disk an do LVM before the install. otherwise, i guess you'll have to do more work17:51
dispadertestSorry, Laga.  Didn't follow that.17:56
lagadispadertest: we've got two install disks: the alternate disk and the desktop disk, which is basically a live CD. only the alternate disk can do LVM in the installer. with the desktop CD, you'll have to invoke some command line tools or parted AFAIK17:57
ddgooseso the lvm stuff will fall under \contentsline {chapter}{\numberline {8}Booting the Mythbuntu Alternate CD}{74}{chapter.8} ?17:58
lagaddgoose: i guess that chapter is only about booting17:58
dispadertestlaga: Ahhh.  Right.  I didn't know that about the alternate disk.  I wound up doing the manual work in the Live CD, so that's what I thought might be helpful to others to write up.17:59
dispadertestlaga: Huh.  So, maybe I shouldn't be writing that up at all.  No need to encourage people to go down a path that's already covered by the alternate disk, is there?17:59
lagayeah.. although it might be a good thing if that lived in the wiki. i'm not sure; i'm always torn between keeping stuff in the static documentation and putting it in the wiki.18:00
lagadispadertest: it's still a nice addition for those who want the live disk. the alternate disk is a bit scary right now. :)18:00
ddgooseA section on Installing from Alternate CD with LVM sould be nice yeah18:01
ddgoosewould even18:01
lagayeah, that too18:01
dispadertestWell, I can certainly cover the first.  It's none too bad, as long as you're not escared of typing a bit.  I just think the references to what you're actually doing during a spanning partition might be really useful for people using multiple drives, which wasn't covered anywhere I could find when asking Mr. Google.18:02
lagaif you want multiple drives, storage groups often work just as well (with less risk of losing all your recordings)18:03
lagaa nice graphical way to add more hard disks _after_ the install would be great.18:04
dispadertestWouldn't be difficult to write something like that using something as simple as Zenity, I suppose.18:05
sardiskanWhen will blu-ray work with mythtv?18:05
dispadertestlaga: Huh... I've always been confused by storage groups.  Maybe that's just me being stupid.  Is that what they're... for?18:06
lagadispadertest: yeah. just add multiple directories. ;)18:07
lagasardiskan: probably never.18:07
* sardiskan sobs18:07
lagastupid encryption.18:09
balachmarHi, I'm back. ACPI didn't work, so now I'm back to nvram-wakeup. But how do I tell mythbuntu to run mythwelcome instead of mythfrontend at startup?18:28
lagabalachmar: /etc/default/mythtv-*18:30
balachmarlaga: I only see mythtv-backend and mythtv-status there...18:32
dispadertestlaga: Ha.  Well, that would have been good to know.18:33
lagabalachmar: /etc/mythtv/session-settings ?18:34
dispadertestHey, I've actually got a question.  Has anybody tried to do a mytharchive import of programs in Mythbuntu 8.04?18:34
balachmarlaga: that is the one!18:35
Solarbabyddgoose: I think I broke lirc for good.. any way to get it totally back to default?18:56
holanyone of you who has a functional mythwelcome with mythbuntu 8.04 ?18:59
Solarbabyprobably take less time if I reinstall19:03
dispadertestSolarbaby: How much customization did you do?19:05
Solarbabynot much..  mainly just installed xbmc from source.. I've just tar'd it and moved it off the system..  and I broke lirc.. thats about it for the most part other then downloading some compiling libraries19:05
SolarbabyI dont think I'll be able to install a second remote with out someone walking me through it im affraid..19:06
dispadertestSolarbaby: Well, I more meant how d'you think you went about breaking lirc.19:07
SolarbabyI must have deleted and rewrote the wrong file19:07
SolarbabyI have no idea19:08
SolarbabyI deleted and re-wrote ~/.mythtv and ~/.lircrc so many times19:08
dispadertestSolarbaby: Just changing the files in maybe /etc/.lircd and /etc/lirc/ and ...19:09
dispadertestSolarbaby: (smiles a bit) Remember to back them things up before you be messin'.19:09
SolarbabyI'll keep that in mind for next time19:09
dispadertestSolarbaby: Seriously, though... the contrib files should be easy enough to replace.19:10
SolarbabyReinstall happening right now19:10
dispadertestSolarbaby: Have you checked...  Eh, okay.  That's another solution.19:10
dispadertestDone it many-a-time.  You trying to get signals from the same IR receiver to respond to different remotes, or two different IR receivers?19:12
Solarbabyyeah..  usbuirt sends signals to the dish receiver and then hauppauge silver remote will control mythtv gui19:14
dispadertestOh, cool.  That's my setup, too.19:15
dispadertestHauppauge 150 card with the blaster installed, or separate USBIR device?19:16
sardiskanspeaking fo dish receiver...can you hook a dish receiver up to a mythbox?19:22
dispadertestSardiskan: As an input source to a frame or MPEG capture card, you mean?19:23
sardiskanboth19:23
dispadertestSardiskan: Well, the answer is "yes" for either.19:23
sardiskanbetter question...can you hook a dish satellite up directly to the mythbox19:23
sardiskanand change channels to the dish on-the-fly19:23
dispadertestSardiskan: Yeah.  That's my setup.19:24
Solarbabyoops I probably should have backed up my xorg config file19:24
Solarbabyhehe19:24
dispadertestSardiskan: Heah.  Hey, though.  I think that one gets backed up for you.19:24
sardiskannice19:24
sardiskanwhat tuner card would you need to do such a thing?19:25
dispadertestSardiskan: There's no nice way to get the digital stream directly to the box or control channel setting outside of the IR blaster; but that's the setup I've got.  You push the signal from the box into a capture card (which doesn't even have to tune), and control the box via a blaster.19:26
sardiskanhmm....sounds like stuff I'm not familiar with19:26
dispadertestSardiskan: Whatever you have on hand would work.  If you're talking about buying new equipment, it depends what you want to do.  If you want to have a single signal input, and have no other needs, I'd get one of the PVR-150 cards that comes with an IR receiver and an IR blaster.19:26
sardiskanI was thinking you could composite cable from the receiver to the tuner card...19:26
sardiskanwhat's an IR blaster?19:27
sardiskanmaybe that's what i need19:27
sardiskanI have a Hauppauge PVR-15019:27
dispadertestSardiskan: Not exactly following what you mean by a composite cable; a blaster is just a little guy that "blasts" IR signals, acting just like a remote control would, but controlled by MythTV to change the channels on that dish receiver.19:28
sardiskanI see19:29
sardiskanNow I get it19:29
dispadertestSardiskan: Some models of the PVR-150 and PVR-500 cards come with both an IR receiver and a little blaster, both on the same dongle.  That just makes it easier.19:29
sardiskanI have this model19:29
sardiskanhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681511663319:29
TelnetMantaanyone gotten a new PSU lately thats missing the P2 connector?19:31
TelnetManta moving my backend HW to a new case, at least I was trying LOL19:31
dispadertestSardiskan: So you got the model without an IR receiver?19:32
lagaTelnetManta: what's P2?19:32
TelnetMantathe 4 wire connector near the CPU slot19:33
lagaah19:33
lagamine has it, but i bought it two years ago ;)19:33
TelnetMantaP1 is the main plus whic went to 24 pins it seems as well...19:33
TelnetMantabut the extra 4 wires are remoavable luckily19:33
sardiskandispadertest....apparently I did get the model w/o the receiver.20:12
Solarbabydispadertest: are you still around?20:42
dispadertestYeah, I'm here.20:44
SolarbabyGreat..  I was hoping you could send me your lirc configuration so I have something to work with20:45
dispadertestYeah, I have them at home, actually; but they're set up to control a Hauppauge card blaster and remote.20:45
dispadertestIt didn't look from the pictures of that model as though you had either, though.20:46
Solarbabythis laptop has no hauppauge card blaster..  heres where I was at..  I setup lircd.conf with some remote codes that worked fine for the dish network pvr20:46
Solarbabybut once I started dabling into ~/.mythtv and ~/.lircrc i really messed up everything20:47
SolarbabyI just need something to work with is all..  I spent so many hours frustrating myself20:47
dispadertestThis is a laptop?20:54
dispadertestI'm thoroughly confused.20:54
Solarbabyyeah this is a laptop21:00
Solarbabylater on I'll be installing it to a desktop that has your configuration almost.. hauppauge 35021:00
dispadertestYeah... well, one thing at a time, though.  If you've got a laptop, and don't have a Hauppauge card attached, you won't have the ability to use that IR receiver... so you can't use those codes at all.  If you don't have any IR receiver hooked up to the laptop, you can't receive IR remote control signals at all.21:02
Solarbabygood point..  I have a USB Uirt.. which I've made work with dish network21:03
SolarbabyI also have a Hauppauge Silver remote..  which I'd like to make work also with the Uirt21:03
tgm4883_laptopSolarbaby, probably have to re-record your remote21:04
SolarbabyOh21:05
SolarbabyHmmm21:05
SolarbabyI thought it was as simple as taking these preconfigured settings I downloaded21:05
Solarbabyapparently..  no such luck here eh?21:05
Solarbabywhatever file I put in lircd.conf whether it be the dish network configuration or the Hauppauge they both work..  but I can only have 1 remote working in that file at a time21:06
Solarbabyso I ventured into the ~/.lirc land and broke it21:06
Solarbabyso I reinstalled.. and now Im hoping to get it right21:06
tgm4883_laptopoh21:08
* tgm4883_laptop didn't know the initial problem21:08
Solarbabyso far I've not touched lirc yet.. hoping to not disturb it21:08
Solarbabyim affraid im going to break it again21:08
Solarbabyso im on a clean install and need some guidance21:08
Solarbabyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=578787   I posted this a while ago in order to help others with my setup.. this could help you see what im working with21:09
SolarbabyI have to leave for now..  if you have any suggestions I'll deffinately love to hear them a little later21:11
balachmarHi, I am trying to use mythwelcome to shutdown my machine, but it won't. It just says recieved shutdown event but nothing happens21:11
majoridiotbalachmar, are you following the guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/WhatNext/ACPIWake21:14
balachmarmajoridiot: No, this guide: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Shutdown_Wakeup21:15
balachmarBecause I need to use nvram_wakeup21:15
sardiskanhow do you upload coverart using mythweb?21:15
majoridiotbalachmar, ok.21:15
MythbuntuGuest88hello21:27
MythbuntuGuest88i have a little question about mythtv21:28
* majoridiot wonders if anyone has little answers21:28
MythbuntuGuest88sorry, but my english is not the best21:29
* majoridiot was kidding ;)21:29
MythbuntuGuest88do you have idea about external divices and mythtv...21:30
majoridiotsuch as?21:30
MythbuntuGuest88i have an usb hard disk drive and i want mythtv to look on it so i can play the video files which are on it21:30
majoridiotshould not be a problem if it is mounted correctly21:31
majoridiotpoint mythvideo to the directory(ies) you want to use21:31
MythbuntuGuest88i had an idea about puting it into the fstab file, but i think that device id (p.e. as hdb2) can change21:32
MythbuntuGuest88or am i wrong?21:32
majoridiot(setup-->media settings-->video settings)21:32
majoridioti'm not entirely sure, but...21:32
MythbuntuGuest88but i can only point at one directory21:33
majoridioti believe once you put it manually into your fstab with the mount point, it'll all get figured out on boot.  should mount to the same mount point every time21:33
majoridiotyou use more than one directory by colon-separating... e.g.:21:34
majoridiotLOL sec...21:34
majoridiot"/directory1:/directory2:/long/name/directory3" etc.21:35
majoridiot(no quotes)21:35
MythbuntuGuest88oh yes... at the bottom of the monitor it is explained *g*21:36
MythbuntuGuest88thanks21:36
majoridiotno kidding?  amazing when you read, eh?21:36
majoridiot:P21:36
majoridiothehe.21:36
MythbuntuGuest88yeah21:36
MythbuntuGuest88and another problem... when i want to watch a online stream (apple movie trailer)21:37
majoridiotif your USB drive mounts to the same point every time, you'll be ok.  otherwise, you may need to make a udev rule.21:37
MythbuntuGuest88the video doesn't play, only the sound... but when i press the key d the video starts21:38
majoridiotum... so press the d key every time?21:38
KillerKiwi2005anybody from mythbuntu going to UDS ?21:38
majoridiotseriously... sorry, i don't use the streaming media function.21:39
MythbuntuGuest88ok, well thanks for the help with my external drive21:39
majoridiotyw21:39
mack0822The fastforward & and rewind aren't working.....any ideas?23:27
momelodgreetings chanel23:50
momelodafter upgrading to 8.04 i no longer have sound in mythtv23:51
momelodwussup, with that?23:51
momelodi also notice that i dont have a /dev/dsp device23:51
momelodand i heard that 8.04 uses pulseaudio instead of ALSA23:52
momelodis that true?23:52
famicomwhich complete IDIOT wrote those gtk configuration tools for ubunut23:52
famicomseriously23:52
famicomwhich complete FCKTARD wrote that shizzit23:53

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