[11:45] <cooli1> Hi just installed Hardy desktop and the add-on CD, looks great , how do I get the ltsp stuff working
[11:46] <cooli1> also need to setup webserver functionality and moodle but these options is not included in Synaptic
[11:55] <ogra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
[12:01] <cooli1> hi ogra --so I must have alternate cd
[12:02] <ogra> no, look at the second paragraph
[12:02] <ogra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall#head-1a4eaadc76237a7efa128c9ccd83d7553eae7242
[12:03] <cooli1> i saw this Open-Source Classroom Management With iTALC On Ubuntu 7.10, will it work on 8
[12:03] <ogra> yup, its our default now
[12:04] <cooli1> ogra: any link for moodle and webserver
[12:04] <cooli1> looks great , your work?
[12:14] <jimjimovich> Anyone know how to make an internet gateway which uses client MAC addresses for authentication see thin client MAC addresses instead of the main server?
[12:21] <stgraber> ogra: btw, the iTalc session is schedule at 14:00
[12:21] <ogra> today ?
[12:22] <cooli1> anybody here that works or worked on the macedonia project
[12:22] <ogra> cooli1, RichEd_ is in contact with the people doing the project
[12:22] <stgraber> ogra: yep
[12:22] <cooli1> I want to go visit and learn some stuff
[12:22] <ogra> oki
[12:27] <jimjimovich> Is there any documentation for 8.04?
[12:56] <stgraber> ogra: session in 4 minutes (in Thames)
[12:57] <ogra> yep
[13:12] <cbx82> newbie: can anyone help me with a wireless networking issue?
[13:28] <ogra> /join #italc
[16:00] <connie> hi ogra: i get message that : Reading package lists... Done
[16:00] <connie> Building dependency tree
[16:00] <connie> Reading state information... Done
[16:00] <connie> E: Couldn't find package ltsp-server-standalone
[16:00] <connie> maybe something else I need to type
[16:01] <connie> well anyone else had the same problem
[16:01] <musashi> i have an ltsp install of hardy. it was working. i ran the updates including the ssh update which generated new keys. now the clients can't log in. could it be the ssh update? how do i fix that?
[16:03] <connie> i installed hardy desktop as i don't have the alternate cd
[16:03] <connie> followed the howto on the wiki but it seems "ltsp-server-standalone" does not exist
[16:06] <connie> :'( no help?
[16:06] <musashi> for neither of us it seems. maybe everyone is getting coffee
[16:07] <ogra> musashi, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/2008-May/004052.html
[16:07] <musashi> ogra: thanks. checking...
[16:08] <ogra> connie, did you install without any network connection ? it pulls it from the archive (ltsp-server-standalone is not on the CD)
[16:09] <ogra> connie, look in the software properties and make sure that you have main enabled and use an online mirror
[16:09]  * ogra has to go 
[16:10] <musashi> thanks ogra, looks like that will work.
[16:12] <connie> tx
[16:12] <connie> i do have internet connection
[16:12] <connie> network cards are configured
[16:13] <connie> i am chatting from machine using gprs connection ( i know slow but I am remote)
[16:15] <connie> ok busy updating repos
[16:41] <connie> ah that works ***note update repo's 1st
[16:41] <connie> ohoh not on gprs network
[18:20] <steven_> hi
[18:20] <steven_> i have some question about the LTSP function of edubuntu
[18:21] <steven_> i actually don't understand it...
[18:21] <steven_> can anyone explain it a bit
[18:21] <johnny> what don't you understand?
[18:21] <steven_> what it really is, they say you can use clients to sign in in something with older PCs
[18:22] <johnny> older pcs.. much more powerful server
[18:23] <steven_> i have this, a classroom full of PIII PCs where i need to find a distro for
[18:23] <steven_> they have'nt anough RAM for ubuntu i think
[18:23] <johnny> well ltsp will let you centralized the management of them
[18:23] <steven_> so i thought about fluxbuntu, but i read the edubuntu LTSP thing
[18:23] <steven_> on 1 PC, a faster pc
[18:23] <johnny> yes
[18:24] <steven_> do you have to install edubuntu on the slower ones?
[18:25] <johnny> no
[18:25] <johnny> on the one fast one
[18:26] <johnny> altho edubuntu is now just an addon cd
[18:26] <johnny> i think you can install ltsp from the alternative cd as an option directly.. or any ubuntu hardy cd
[18:26] <johnny> via synaptic or apt-get as usual
[18:27] <steven_> so, install edubuntu on 1 pc and install ltsp with same cd
[18:27] <steven_> other menu item
[18:29] <johnny> if you already want it on the cd, i think you need to get the alternative hardy cd..
[18:29] <johnny> i think i'd just get it from the internet tho personally
[18:30] <steven_> ??? i don't understand that last 2 messages
[18:30] <steven_> what do i do with the slower pcs
[18:30] <steven_> livecd doesn't support it
[18:30] <steven_> also no installation
[18:30] <steven_> i cant use apt-get than right?
[18:33] <johnny> the slower pcs network boot
[18:33] <johnny> off the powerful one
[18:33] <johnny> and run almost all programs from the powerful
[18:56] <steven_> network boot?
[18:56] <steven_> how exactly? with a other type edubuntu installation
[18:58] <johnny> huH/
[18:58] <johnny> no.. they download the stuff they need over the local network
[18:59] <steven_> but how
[18:59] <johnny> pxe boot
[18:59] <steven_> you can't do anything without anything installed at the pcs
[18:59] <johnny> that's the specific name
[18:59] <johnny> yes you can :)
[18:59] <steven_> right from bios?
[18:59] <johnny> the pcs download the kernel, and the very basics of the operating system
[19:00] <johnny> it happens after the bios
[19:00] <johnny> but no disks are involved
[19:00] <steven_> they download it everytime they are rebooted
[19:00] <johnny> unless your machines can't network boot..
[19:00] <johnny> yes
[19:00] <steven_> howmany PCs can 1 master pc stand?
[19:00] <johnny> depends on the spec
[19:01] <johnny> check the edubuntu handbook
[19:01] <johnny> for the equation
[19:01] <steven_> does it work good?
[19:01] <johnny> it depends on the specs :)
[19:02] <steven_> for advanced presentation making and browsing, let's say 25 PIII 500Mhz 128 RAM and master of 512 RAM 1.6GHz or something
[19:02] <johnny> you'd want more ram
[19:02] <steven_> or maybe 2GHz
[19:02] <johnny> in the master
[19:02] <johnny> and a dual core machine i think
[19:03] <johnny> look at the edubuntu handbook
[19:03] <steven_> and when i split to 12 - 12
[19:03] <steven_> ok
[19:03] <steven_> :p
[19:15] <steven_> ty i just read
[19:15] <steven_> 256 + (128 * users) MB of memory
[19:15] <steven_> quit much
[19:15] <steven_> :p
[19:16] <steven_> does edubuntu has other advantages for schools
[19:16] <johnny> well you could minimize it by using fluxbox and other smaller things
[19:16] <johnny> you can visualize the entire classroom
[19:16] <johnny> watch screens
[19:16] <johnny> blank screens
[19:16] <steven_> but just for a PC-)room
[19:16] <johnny> cut off people doing thngs they shouldn't
[19:17] <steven_> that's usefull indeed
[19:17] <steven_> but i think edubuntu shows that childy
[19:18] <steven_> is it possible to manage PCs in ubuntu
[19:19] <johnny> yes.. edubuntu is just an addon cd with educational apps
[19:19] <johnny> and some artwork
[19:19] <johnny> you can do it all with any ubuntu
[19:20] <steven_> aah, do you maybe know the application name? or package name?
[19:21] <steven__> aah, do you maybe know the application name? or package name?
[19:24] <johnny> for?
[19:30] <steven__> checking what other people do in a local network
[19:30] <steven__> like the school-classroom network