[11:45] Hi just installed Hardy desktop and the add-on CD, looks great , how do I get the ltsp stuff working [11:46] also need to setup webserver functionality and moodle but these options is not included in Synaptic [11:55] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall [12:01] hi ogra --so I must have alternate cd [12:02] no, look at the second paragraph [12:02] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall#head-1a4eaadc76237a7efa128c9ccd83d7553eae7242 [12:03] i saw this Open-Source Classroom Management With iTALC On Ubuntu 7.10, will it work on 8 [12:03] yup, its our default now [12:04] ogra: any link for moodle and webserver [12:04] looks great , your work? [12:14] Anyone know how to make an internet gateway which uses client MAC addresses for authentication see thin client MAC addresses instead of the main server? [12:21] ogra: btw, the iTalc session is schedule at 14:00 [12:21] today ? [12:22] anybody here that works or worked on the macedonia project [12:22] cooli1, RichEd_ is in contact with the people doing the project [12:22] ogra: yep [12:22] I want to go visit and learn some stuff [12:22] oki [12:27] Is there any documentation for 8.04? [12:56] ogra: session in 4 minutes (in Thames) [12:57] yep [13:12] newbie: can anyone help me with a wireless networking issue? [13:28] /join #italc [16:00] hi ogra: i get message that : Reading package lists... Done [16:00] Building dependency tree [16:00] Reading state information... Done [16:00] E: Couldn't find package ltsp-server-standalone [16:00] maybe something else I need to type [16:01] well anyone else had the same problem [16:01] i have an ltsp install of hardy. it was working. i ran the updates including the ssh update which generated new keys. now the clients can't log in. could it be the ssh update? how do i fix that? [16:03] i installed hardy desktop as i don't have the alternate cd [16:03] followed the howto on the wiki but it seems "ltsp-server-standalone" does not exist [16:06] :'( no help? [16:06] for neither of us it seems. maybe everyone is getting coffee [16:07] musashi, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/2008-May/004052.html [16:07] ogra: thanks. checking... [16:08] connie, did you install without any network connection ? it pulls it from the archive (ltsp-server-standalone is not on the CD) [16:09] connie, look in the software properties and make sure that you have main enabled and use an online mirror [16:09] * ogra has to go [16:10] thanks ogra, looks like that will work. [16:12] tx [16:12] i do have internet connection [16:12] network cards are configured [16:13] i am chatting from machine using gprs connection ( i know slow but I am remote) [16:15] ok busy updating repos [16:41] ah that works ***note update repo's 1st [16:41] ohoh not on gprs network [18:20] hi [18:20] i have some question about the LTSP function of edubuntu [18:21] i actually don't understand it... [18:21] can anyone explain it a bit [18:21] what don't you understand? [18:21] what it really is, they say you can use clients to sign in in something with older PCs [18:22] older pcs.. much more powerful server [18:23] i have this, a classroom full of PIII PCs where i need to find a distro for [18:23] they have'nt anough RAM for ubuntu i think [18:23] well ltsp will let you centralized the management of them [18:23] so i thought about fluxbuntu, but i read the edubuntu LTSP thing [18:23] on 1 PC, a faster pc [18:23] yes [18:24] do you have to install edubuntu on the slower ones? [18:25] no [18:25] on the one fast one [18:26] altho edubuntu is now just an addon cd [18:26] i think you can install ltsp from the alternative cd as an option directly.. or any ubuntu hardy cd [18:26] via synaptic or apt-get as usual [18:27] so, install edubuntu on 1 pc and install ltsp with same cd [18:27] other menu item [18:29] if you already want it on the cd, i think you need to get the alternative hardy cd.. [18:29] i think i'd just get it from the internet tho personally [18:30] ??? i don't understand that last 2 messages [18:30] what do i do with the slower pcs [18:30] livecd doesn't support it [18:30] also no installation [18:30] i cant use apt-get than right? [18:33] the slower pcs network boot [18:33] off the powerful one [18:33] and run almost all programs from the powerful [18:56] network boot? [18:56] how exactly? with a other type edubuntu installation [18:58] huH/ [18:58] no.. they download the stuff they need over the local network [18:59] but how [18:59] pxe boot [18:59] you can't do anything without anything installed at the pcs [18:59] that's the specific name [18:59] yes you can :) [18:59] right from bios? [18:59] the pcs download the kernel, and the very basics of the operating system [19:00] it happens after the bios [19:00] but no disks are involved [19:00] they download it everytime they are rebooted [19:00] unless your machines can't network boot.. [19:00] yes [19:00] howmany PCs can 1 master pc stand? [19:00] depends on the spec [19:01] check the edubuntu handbook [19:01] for the equation [19:01] does it work good? [19:01] it depends on the specs :) [19:02] for advanced presentation making and browsing, let's say 25 PIII 500Mhz 128 RAM and master of 512 RAM 1.6GHz or something [19:02] you'd want more ram [19:02] or maybe 2GHz [19:02] in the master [19:02] and a dual core machine i think [19:03] look at the edubuntu handbook [19:03] and when i split to 12 - 12 [19:03] ok [19:03] :p [19:15] ty i just read [19:15] 256 + (128 * users) MB of memory [19:15] quit much [19:15] :p [19:16] does edubuntu has other advantages for schools [19:16] well you could minimize it by using fluxbox and other smaller things [19:16] you can visualize the entire classroom [19:16] watch screens [19:16] blank screens [19:16] but just for a PC-)room [19:16] cut off people doing thngs they shouldn't [19:17] that's usefull indeed [19:17] but i think edubuntu shows that childy [19:18] is it possible to manage PCs in ubuntu [19:19] yes.. edubuntu is just an addon cd with educational apps [19:19] and some artwork [19:19] you can do it all with any ubuntu [19:20] aah, do you maybe know the application name? or package name? [19:21] aah, do you maybe know the application name? or package name? [19:24] for? [19:30] checking what other people do in a local network [19:30] like the school-classroom network === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak