[00:06] * johnc4510 who takes care of putting ubottu in the team channels? [02:25] Pici: yeah, me too. i'm now getting unacceptable amounts of grief about not being a member. [02:26] * jdong cries about not being back home for another week, particuarly after seeing some photos of the driveway from this morning.... [03:24] Hello, bazhang asked me to come back here after 2 days, its been that and a little more, after many discussions with several people, many that have been here a long time some that are new, I would appreciate the opportunity to return to #ubuntu [03:30] anyone? [03:37] j [03:37] do you understand why you were banned? [03:38] yes, did you read my apology? [03:38] i don't see it [03:39] you mean above, at **:23? [03:39] in the pastebin, [03:40] i have not [03:41] i made another statement there that i believed at the time but after some council with others, i now uderstand better [03:41] http://paste.ubuntu.com/11972/ [03:43] my offense was against bazhang, and i apologized to him/her personally in pm and publicly in that paste [03:43] and it was against the channel that it was off-topic and wasteing ppls time [03:50] OK, i would recommend you not take offense so easily [03:51] who cares what some guy on IRC says about Americans? [03:51] it's .... *some guy on IRC* ;) [03:54] yeah,,, i know, i tookit way too far, i just couldn't believe no one else didnt say anything,thats when bazhang said he missed it and i guess that got me even more,,, thats where i should hav just pm'd him or another to say how wrong it was instead of in channel [03:55] *him being bazhang or another op,,, not the other guy [03:55] even so, why even care? [03:55] know what i mean? [03:58] well if i would have just pm'd baz and let him know that i took offense and that there may be others that do to, then he could deal with that instead of what he dealt with,,, [03:58] *bazhang [03:58] right, but what i'm saying is "why take offense?" [03:59] sorry, did not mean to short name [03:59] think of it this way. if i said, "that rainbow colored wig looks silly on you," you wouldn't take offense, and probably laugh at me, because it's patently false. [04:00] when you get offended by someone calling Americans stupid, you confirm to them that there may be a seed of truth in what they say. this will encourage them. [04:00] let it go. [04:00] nome sane? [04:01] mneptok, you are missing my point, i agree with you, i should have taken him for the person he was and ignored, but a responsibility would be to let a op know that there may be a other member of the chanel that will take offense [04:02] and i didnt do that the other night, i became a "Dumb Redneck" [04:03] and thus proved the idiot's point ;) [04:03] it's like a microcosm of the Bush administration! ;) [04:04] * mneptok is another American, BTW [04:04] so, don't let them bait you, k? [04:05] mneptok: you klingon targ, quit your lying! [04:05] and ... you are unbanned [04:05] gakh is always best when served live ... [04:06] live and fresh, not on its last legs live [04:07] ummm, huh? [04:09] SeaPhor: Star Trek geekery [04:10] you mock me, sir! [04:15] look , i made a commitment to myself and a friend that i would be 100% linux, 100%ubuntu and will take the next year of my life to learn all i can and go back to school during, and get a better job,,, and your channel is not only the best learning tool, i actually help ppl there, to be honest thats the main reason i'm here, ppl i've helped im'd me and asked me to come back, [04:15] pistols at dawn? or phasers on Holodeck 3? [04:15] SeaPhor: 23:03 <+mneptok> and ... you are unbanned [04:15] mneptok, ? [04:16] ? [04:16] you [04:16] are [04:16] unbanned [04:18] SeaPhor: join #ubuntu and enjoy [04:18] lol, i was about to say ok, seeya, and act like i didnt care,, ( i didnt read the "un" part) thought i just got myself banned from here too [04:19] i was too busy converting to Fahrenheit [04:19] ;) [04:19] good luck with that, i can do metric but temps... [04:20] hey!, at least you can spell it [04:21] SeaPhor: living in Canada has given me practice [04:22] i'm sorry ;-( [04:23] must have given you great patience too [04:23] * nalioth hums a refrain [04:24] ok, thank you all, i'll get out of your way and go celebrate my first day of WIRELESS working! after 5.5 months of trying! [04:26] woot! [04:26] (that meand i have to roll up 35 ft. (feet for those on meters) of CAT5 strung thru In-Law's house [04:27] *meand=means [04:27] roll it correctly, then :) [04:27] don't make it kink forever. [04:27] but think, when you're done you can honestly say you have pulled the plug on your mother-in-law. [04:27] that can't be bad. [04:28] i like it kinky though??? [04:28] oh my [04:28] use unshielded cable then [04:28] :) [04:31] ok,,, well, on that note, thank you all, bazhang - thank you for what you do, and i will leave you to do whatever you do here [04:39] @btlogin [06:22] moin [06:36] does ubottu have the greatest feature of the old pre-Great Snit ubotu, namely @lart? [06:37] we chose not to burden it with those [06:37] pity [06:38] besides, some of those should be on a separate bot anyway [06:46] hullo SeaPhor [06:46] how can we help you? [06:46] i hate to bother you but how does one get an op if one is not obviously present? [06:46] with the help of chanserv [06:47] /msg chanserv help [06:47] ok? i am a total n00b, i have no idea what that means [06:48] or do you mean how do you get an op to respond to an urgent abuse issue on the channels? [06:48] yes [06:48] on which particular channel or just in general? [06:49] the one ur on,, for instance,, no in general [06:49] in the biggest #ubuntu channels the bot ubottu has a trigger !ops [06:49] I don't advice you to try it [06:50] just to test how it works [06:50] it's used like this: (replace the 1 with !) [06:50] ooo, no, only in a bad time, right? [06:50] 1ops | $nick is causing trouble by doing $things [06:50] right [06:51] when done like that, we get an announcement with your name, and the part "$nick is causing trouble by doing $things" [06:52] and the bot also tells which channel is is [06:52] this is only on channels where ubottu is present [06:52] for the rest, they have their own policies [06:53] for those you can check who has the admin powah by doin /msg chanserv info $channel list [06:53] everyone with a level 10 or higher has the ability to remove users if necessary. [06:54] did this answer your questions? [06:55] Thank you, there may be an issue in #ubuntu there was someone being quite insulting but i'm sure he;s been run off by now, but he was also pushing Envy for vid drvr stuff [06:55] yes it did thank you [06:56] envy or envyng? [06:57] !envy [06:57] envyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository and has community support. As an early version, its results may vary but this should be used over the unsupported envy package. [06:58] the latter, but this guy is pushing the stuff like candy and telling others off, insulting, i leave it there [06:58] i know [06:58] c-ron: ? [06:58] yes [06:59] well I'm already looking at his doings since he started to argue about our family friendly policy, so :-) [06:59] is he the marketingguy or something? [06:59] ok [07:00] :-)) [07:03] here's wher prob is, i was working with a guy, he took over and thats fine, i'm still a n00b, but he's having him do Envy stuff,,,, when i first came here the first time i mentioned envy,, i was told to drop it or leave,,, [07:04] and just so u know i did send c-ron a PM,,, is there a reason you want him to run envy instead of the native, or even restricted? [07:04] * c-ron has quit ("Leaving") [07:04] hah [07:10] I see [07:11] did a bit of working there, it now seems the another user basically has no graphics? [07:11] envy is bad, envyng is just fine [07:12] well, right now using envyng is stupid because there is no updated driver to get [07:18] Amaranth: could you take this over, I ran into trouble with work [07:18] Myrtti: take what over? [07:20] SeaPhor: so do you have any other questions? [08:41] favro called the ops in #kubuntu (JAVI) [08:53] @btlogin [09:12] Dear Gaia, Give me strength to understand and work with users who question my logic, the rules, netiquette and common sense. Give me resilience to teach them the basics of Linux, Ubuntu, Community Guidelines and IRC. Allow me not to stray to nitpicking, argument, foul language or leisure op abuse. Deliver me my daily xkcd, perrybiblefellowship, del.icio.us, facebook and planet ubuntu, and guard over my encrypted drives, so they are not corrupted beyond ... [09:12] ... repair. Let it be so. [09:13] Myrtti, a classic if I may say so [09:14] !prayer is foo [09:14] I'll remember that, Myrtti [09:15] search IM [09:15] supybot.reply.format.time, supybot.reply.format.time.elapsed, [09:15] can that actually be brought down the factoid names? [09:15] (please_ [09:15] ) [09:16] !no prayer is Dear $DEITY, Give me strength to understand and work with users who question my logic, the rules, netiquette and common sense. Give me resilience to teach them the basics of Linux, Ubuntu, Community Guidelines and IRC. Allow me not to stray to nitpicking, argument, foul language or leisure op abuse. Deliver me my daily xkcd, User Friendly, LWN, /. and Planet Ubuntu, and guard over my encrypted drives, so they are not corrupted ... [09:16] I'll remember that Myrtti [09:16] ... beyond repair. Let it be so. [09:17] !no prayer is Dear $DEITY, Give me strength to understand and work with users who question my logic, the rules, netiquette and common sense. Give me resilience to teach them the basics of Linux, Ubuntu, Community Guidelines and IRC. Allow me not to stray to nitpicking, argument, foul language or leisure op abuse. Deliver me my daily xkcd, User Friendly, LWN, /. and Planet Ubuntu, and guard over my encrypted drives. Let it be so. [09:18] !prayer [09:18] Dear $DEITY, Give me strength to understand and work with users who question my logic, the rules, netiquette and common sense. Give me resilience to teach them the basics of Linux, Ubuntu, Community Guidelines and IRC. Allow me not to stray to nitpicking, argument, foul language or leisure op abuse. Deliver me my daily xkcd, User Friendly, LWN, /. and Planet Ubuntu, and guard over my encrypted drives. Let it be so. [09:44] !prayer Myrtti [09:44] Factoid prayer myrtti not found [09:44] hm [09:44] thought $deity would be replaced; ) [09:44] with what ;-) [10:14] help in #kubuntu please [10:14] Jucato called the ops in #kubuntu (pcxeon2) [10:14] I can't op [10:22] llutz called the ops in #kubuntu (kevin_) [11:31] NARF?! [11:32] NAAAARRRFFFF [11:32] * Hobbsee narf's Myrtti [11:33] see -irc [11:33] there's a situation at -il that only two people have ops [11:33] the other being Seveas [11:42] PriceChild: nalioth if one of you can action the cloak request, that'd be good. [12:13] !pony [12:13] Factoid pony not found [12:13] * elkbuntu weeps [12:14] no pony for you. === Myrtti_ is now known as Myrtti [13:01] ompaul: very sad, I think I saw the problem, if he could have kept it together for a bit longer [13:01] yeesh [13:02] ikonia, his attitude [13:02] I know [13:02] 30 seconds more is all he needed to keep it together for [13:02] ikonia, no matter what I will now take him to pm if he replies then maybe just maybe [13:04] * elkbuntu reads over the backlog and rolls her eyes. [13:05] he might be a volunteering, but i do not want his services... [13:05] s/a// [13:05] I'm almost more annoyed at the peanut gallery than the guy himself. [13:05] Pici, be that [13:05] cos I am about to turn up again [13:05] * ompaul just did an install [13:06] eh? [13:06] now for the most horrible part [13:06] breakfast. [13:06] I am free for a few minutes :) [13:06] ohh nice I had that already [13:09] In #kubuntu, Coder2 said: ubottu: There is no Keyboard andmouse there [13:10] * ompaul goes to web page [13:11] Hobbsee: what cloak request? [13:16] who are we talking about? [14:00] dpkg --configure -a does a cowardly exit and runs to a nearby forest... /me sings a LALALA song [14:00] :( [14:00] dpkg segfaults [14:00] I love this like a sack full of chicken dung [14:04] if I join -ot now, am I still a hypocrite? [14:05] feel free to /soap me though [14:16] ikonia, Pici I had a chat with shaneireland happy enough let him back [14:16] * ompaul has to head out for an hour or two [14:58] kelvin911 [14:58] oh [14:58] just said some more cantonese curse words and called me 'ahole' [14:58] why? [14:59] when? [14:59] asked him to stop the offtopic [14:59] let me check the scroll [15:00] approx 21 mins ago [15:00] And did you remove/ban him? [15:01] he quit immediately after [15:01] thought mediation was the new ban [15:02] woo!! Someone said mediation instead of catalysing!! [15:02] goos-fraba [15:06] I'm a big proponent of mediation, but not when they start hurling insults for no reason. If you aren't going to ban him, then I am. [15:06] I have a few banned folks coming in for chats soon; would appreciate it [15:08] kindofabuzz still thinks he did nothing wrong apart from the 'danger' command [15:08] thanks Pici [15:09] surely [15:23] hello all [15:23] Aloha [15:24] :) [15:24] * jussi01 is home, finally :D [15:27] Back in a few days, cyaz. [15:27] PriceChild: have fun [15:27] unless you arent doing something fun, then just have.... cake. [15:28] heh [15:33] floodbot1 has quit? yikes [15:34] bazhang: its probably on LjL's connection [15:35] okay that was scary; thanks [15:35] The rest of the bots are still around, they'll pick up the slack [15:35] Im guessing fb1 will be back soon as well :) [15:36] btw, what is metabot? [15:36] It summerizes the questions and categorizes them in ##metabot [15:37] bazhang: there you go ;) [15:38] Pici: ahh, cool [15:38] thanks [15:38] Another of l j l's projecs [15:38] oh thanks to goodness jussi01 :) [15:38] Pici: yeah, i figured by the hostmask cloak :) [15:47] Hi Jack [16:06] Hm., /me wonders what irc channel UDS is going to be covered in [16:06] haha [16:11] HI Pici [16:11] Pici: #ubuntu-devel-summit [16:11] and FB2 goes down [16:12] oops back again [16:12] nice, unregistered channel [16:13] Pici: who needs register when you have PARTYYY!! [16:16] In #kubuntu, abushady said: ubottu: this is not intended [16:16] . [16:21] lots of offtopic lately [16:21] tons [16:21] better just to switch main channel and ot channel [16:50] ASUS-tek, how may we help you [16:52] ya unblock me from ubuntu offtopic [16:52] ASUS-tek, not sure who banned you from that channel [16:53] @btlogin [16:53] ompaul [16:53] He is afk for an hour or two, apparently [16:54] ASUS-tek, ompaul is not around right now; you will have to speak to him when he returns [16:54] ASUS-tek, best come back in three hours or so [16:55] oh [18:16] * ompaul is back [18:17] lo ompaul [18:17] hi there [18:17] asustek was seeking you ompaul [18:17] I know [18:17] I run full screen ;-) per channel [18:17] haha [18:18] ehh go to -ot for my latest thoughts [19:00] hi ompaul u there [19:00] ASUS-tek, I am [19:01] ASUS-tek, do you know why you were banned at this point? [19:03] wow answering in 12 seconds is too long a gap ;-) [19:03] !u [19:03] Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun. If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you". The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on.. [19:05] kelvin911, may we help you? [19:05] kelvin911, and how may you be helped this day [19:05] kelvin911, and .... [19:06] wow [19:06] ;-) [19:06] i dont talk to asshole like bazhang [19:06] kelvin911: Why the attitude? [19:06] kelvin911, then we have a problem [19:06] I dont think you'll be talking to anyone in here much with that attitude [19:06] /me passes the crisps around [19:07] Myrtti: what flavour? [19:07] !guidelines | kelvin911 have a look at these - both sides of the fence should be in that zone not kust one [19:07] kelvin911 have a look at these - both sides of the fence should be in that zone not kust one: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [19:07] plain with dip [19:07] sour cream with ... (looks....) ranch flavoring [19:08] kelvin911, so ehh how can we help you>? [19:08] * Seeker` wonders what ranch tastes like [19:08] Nothing like hay. [19:08] ya am there [19:08] Seeker`, I imagine sun burnt beef [19:09] unbannd me dude [19:09] and i hate communism and mainland china chinese like bazhang, u can ban me here too communist [19:09] ASUS-tek, lets take this to pm for a moment or two [19:09] kelvin911, you got a wrong idea dude so I guess you should adjust your reality [19:10] kelvin911, this is about tolerating others not being intolerant [19:10] ompaul u first help me out with getting my self unbanned [19:10] ASUS-tek, just a sec [19:11] ASUS-tek, you got a pm please read it [19:12] kelvin911: what exactly do you want us to do? So far i've only seen you insult bazhang [19:12] kelvin911, so have you anything else you want to do? [19:12] I banned him because of his attitude and language in #u [19:13] Pici, I can see how that would have happened [19:14] kelvin911, have you anything in specific you want to say / do here [19:14] !idle [19:14] Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [19:15] kelvin911, please participate or leave [19:19] kelvin911, is that a vote to leave? [19:21] unban or i am not leaving [19:21] fine [19:22] kelvin911: You will not be unbanned until you follow and understand our channel guidelines. Which you clearly don't. [19:22] oh, that works too. [19:22] too late [19:22] I'll let him simmer for 12 hrs [19:22] he clearly had no interest in discussing anything [19:23] wow the anger [19:23] if I forget to take the ban off, please do so [19:23] bazhang: Was that out of the blue for you? [19:23] sure was [19:23] How odd. [19:23] he was agressive in main channel but that was surreal [19:24] awwww, no more crisps [19:24] I wonder what kind of insults he can come up with the Finland [19:28] how original [19:28] His host is unique, I grepped for it before I banned in #ubuntu [19:30] bye [19:31] did I miss something? [19:32] any holes he could come creeping in? [19:32] is he banned with that other ip too on u? [19:33] He is now [19:34] should I explain him the ban, or would anyone else like to do it perchance? [19:34] I'm guessing he wont listen to me [19:34] His attitude was like that towards bazhang before the ban, which is why it was placed. [19:35] then leave it in place [19:35] eenie meenie miney moe [19:35] this goes back further though; to his tiff with seaphor [19:35] He was being consistantly offtopic, and refused to listen to bazhang's requests to stay on topid. [19:35] ompaul: I was thinking about the ban *here* [19:35] s/topid/topic/ [19:35] Myrtti, remove it in a bit - like an hour or so [19:35] oh [19:36] ompaul: I was planning 12hrs, but I guess it'll only get him more aggrevated [19:36] so you're probably right [19:36] I let asus-tek back into -ot and advised him / her about their behaviour so count is reset to 0 as it were [19:38] jenda, you got mail [19:39] anyone else seems mild after kelvin [19:40] ah, there we go [19:40] a pm from amuro [19:40] FUN! [19:41] bazhang: been on irc since 1996 [19:41] bazhang: nothing new under the sun [19:41] !prayer [19:41] Dear $DEITY, Give me strength to understand and work with users who question my logic, the rules, netiquette and common sense. Give me resilience to teach them the basics of Linux, Ubuntu, Community Guidelines and IRC. Allow me not to stray to nitpicking, argument, foul language or leisure op abuse. Deliver me my daily xkcd, User Friendly, LWN, /. and Planet Ubuntu, and guard over my encrypted drives. Let it be so. [19:41] I wish I knew about irc back then [19:41] now he asks if Miia is a girls name... [19:41] you left out groklaw :) [19:42] had to cut it someplace [19:42] The Litany of IRC [19:44] so he will be unbanned in main channel at some point? [19:44] Depends [19:44] some never are? [19:45] some never are [19:45] whoa [19:46] he's trying to sweet talk me into unbanning him [19:46] how cute [19:46] * jdong whines like a little kid [19:46] I wanna go back home and drive my new car NOW [19:46] anyone in the boston area want to take a few exams for me? [19:48] jdong: Sure, I'll fail them for you [19:49] Amaranth: oh your understanding of fourier-class transforms and discrete mathematics cannot possibly be worse than mine. [19:49] my understanding of what? [19:49] :) [19:50] could someone /msg my virtual server's bofh for me... [19:50] no, dont [19:50] !jdong [19:50] jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK! [19:50] Amaranth: alternatively you can figure out what cool hacks I can perform on my QNX-based touchscreen nav system [19:50] Not like we'd know who that was anyway. [19:50] @login [19:50] Myrtti: The operation succeeded. [19:50] !no myrtti is prayer [19:50] You are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm [19:50] !no myrtti is prayer [19:50] I'll remember that Myrtti [19:51] whoa [19:51] nice [19:51] what was it aliased to before? [19:51] !myrtti [19:51] Dear $DEITY, Give me strength to understand and work with users who question my logic, the rules, netiquette and common sense. Give me resilience to teach them the basics of Linux, Ubuntu, Community Guidelines and IRC. Allow me not to stray to nitpicking, argument, foul language or leisure op abuse. Deliver me my daily xkcd, User Friendly, LWN, /. and Planet Ubuntu, and guard over my encrypted drives. Let it be so. [19:51] Amaranth: !wtf [19:51] That is awesome [19:51] er, I mean !rtfm [19:51] !wtf [19:51] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [19:51] I hate that acronym [19:51] !rtfm [19:51] Acronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period. [19:51] I hate it [19:51] oh, pfft [19:52] What's wrong with Reading The Fine Manual? :) [19:52] Because not everyone wants to read the 500 page bash man page just to know how to sort ls by date. [19:53] you can sort ls by date? [19:53] s/bash/ls/ [19:53]