sectech | bug #230906, I don't know what package to assign it to... There is enough to confirm | 00:06 |
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ubottu | Launchpad bug 230906 in ubuntu "Using special characters in filenames prevents Windows from opening" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/230906 | 00:06 |
dsas_ | sectech: I think that bugs in discussion on ubuntu-devel-discuss at present. I seem to remember that it wasn't clear where the bug lay, possibly the filesystem level. | 00:19 |
sectech | Okay I'll leave it be... I am just going through the incomplete bugs I was triaging... | 00:20 |
sectech | house keeping (with what is possible) | 00:20 |
sectech | If I request a backtrace for a bug and it returns with no symbols, and there isn't a -dbg for the application would an apport report be any more effective? | 00:29 |
dsas_ | sectech: Yes I believe so. It's then retraced with debug symbols in the datacentre | 00:38 |
sectech | Okay, then I'll be asking for apport for a couple of mine | 00:39 |
RyanPrior | How do I change the importance of a bug? | 06:39 |
nickellery | RyanPrior, you have to be a member of the Ubuntu-Bugcontrol team | 06:44 |
RyanPrior | nickellery: Who do I complain to if there's a bug that's clearly mis-marked in importance? | 06:53 |
thekorn | what's the bugnumer and the importance in question? | 06:54 |
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RyanPrior | launchpad bug #183917 (marked low priority) is the most complained about bug in Hardy | 06:58 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 183917 in libflashsupport "Sound stops working in Firefox once other applications (Pidgin, Rhythmbox) have played sound" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183917 | 06:58 |
RyanPrior | !botsnack | 06:58 |
ubottu | Yum! Err, I mean, APT! | 06:58 |
thekorn | RyanPrior, IMO there is no need to chenge the importance of this bug, this is surely in focus of the developers, changing the importance won't change anything | 07:05 |
RyanPrior | thekorn: I think it hurts the credibility of the bug tracking system. Hundreds of people per day find that bug and see that it's already confirmed, and low priority. | 07:07 |
thekorn | RyanPrior, based on the number of different comments and subscribers I'm not sure if there are really hundreds of people are intrested in this bug | 07:11 |
thekorn | the importance was set by someone who really knows what to do, | 07:12 |
thekorn | so the best would be to conntact him and talk to him directly about changing it | 07:12 |
RyanPrior | thekorn: I'm not sure on the numbers. I sit in #ubuntu for a few hours a day though, and we get questions about that bug probably once every few minutes, so figuring in how many people search the bug tracker without asking in IRC, I figure it's a pretty big numberr. | 07:12 |
RyanPrior | thekorn: the number of comments isn't a good indicator, because a bug tracker is not a popularity contest. Not everybody is going to chime in. If there's an Ubuntu Brainstorm entry for this bug, I bet it's got a thousand votes. | 07:14 |
thekorn | RyanPrior, right, if you add a comment, saying you have seen many people affected by this bug, I will change the importance | 07:19 |
RyanPrior | thekorn: Done. | 07:25 |
thekorn | RyanPrior, my problem right now is: I 'm unable to reproduce it with an uptodate hardy | 07:30 |
RyanPrior | thekorn: Are you using Adobe Flash? | 07:30 |
RyanPrior | thekorn: I reproduce it daily using these steps: Open Rhythmbox, set music playing, browse to a YouTube video and play it, pause Rhythmbox to let the video play. Expected result: audio and video play. Actual result: only video plays. | 07:32 |
thekorn | RyanPrior, I'm using flash-nonfree, so yes | 07:32 |
RyanPrior | The workaround I use is closing Rhythmbox, closing Firefox, opening Firefox again, playing the flash video, and then opening Rhythmbox again. | 07:32 |
RyanPrior | thekorn: Do you have libflashsupport installed? | 07:33 |
thekorn | RyanPrior, Ohh, ok, I think I'm able to reproduce it this way, | 07:36 |
thekorn | need to reboot, back in a few | 07:36 |
thekorn | RyanPrior, I'm still not able to reproduce this particullar issue, maybe it is just luck ;) | 07:46 |
RyanPrior | thekorn: If you have libflashsupport you won't be able to reproduce it - do you? | 07:46 |
thekorn | but I'm going to change the importance based on your last comment | 07:48 |
RyanPrior | Well, if you really can't reproduce the bug, we should figure out why that is and try to get to the bottom of this. | 07:49 |
RyanPrior | I don't have time tonight, but maybe there's a clue in the discrepancy. | 07:49 |
thekorn | RyanPrior, I have libflashsupport installed! why is there a libflashsupport task? | 07:49 |
RyanPrior | thekorn: libflashsupport solves this bug but creates a worse one. | 07:50 |
RyanPrior | thekorn: You won't be able to reproduce this bug as long as you have libflashsupport though. | 07:50 |
thekorn | RyanPrior, ok, I'm sorry to say this, but I'm not sure what the best steps at this point are, maybe you should ask crimsun or members of mozilla-bugs about this. I will subscribe myself to this bug, and follow on this later today as I'm running out of time right now. | 07:55 |
RyanPrior | thekorn: I'm going to bed myself. Thanks for the attention. | 07:55 |
thekorn | RyanPrior, thank you for working on this | 07:56 |
thekorn | RyanPrior, good night | 07:56 |
isforinsects | Not entirely sure how to report this bug correctly, of if indeed it is a bug or something else. | 10:01 |
isforinsects | I am trying to install the Hardy package 'imms' and it depends on 'xmms' which isn't available in 8.04 repos. | 10:01 |
isforinsects | in fact quite a few packages require xmms: playground-plugin-xmms for instance | 10:03 |
isforinsects | There are even gobs of xmms plugins in the repos, but no xmms | 10:04 |
RAOF | isforinsects: That means we need to file a bunch of removal request bugs, basically. | 10:05 |
RAOF | But they'll only be removed from Intrepid, not Hardy. | 10:05 |
isforinsects | Can you point me to an example? I'd be willing to do file them. | 10:05 |
isforinsects | Oh yes, I suppose hardy repos are set now aren't they. | 10:06 |
sectech | Why on earth. | 10:15 |
RAOF | sectech: ? | 10:16 |
isforinsects | sectech?> | 10:16 |
sectech | I used xmms all the time, wonder why they would remove the main package | 10:16 |
sectech | odd... | 10:16 |
isforinsects | Well it is obsoleted by xmms2 | 10:16 |
isforinsects | I think? | 10:16 |
RAOF | Because it's ancient, not well maintained, and depends on gtk1.2. | 10:16 |
RAOF | isforinsects: No, xmms2 is quite different. | 10:17 |
RAOF | And gtk1.2 is going to disappear from the archives real-soon-now :) | 10:17 |
sectech | a shame they didn't keep it up.... oh well... | 10:17 |
sectech | It's been around for ages... | 10:18 |
isforinsects | I like it myself. I find more and more problems with heavy weight media players | 10:18 |
pedro_ | bug 190684 | 10:18 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 190684 in xmms "Remove xmms from Ubuntu" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190684 | 10:18 |
pedro_ | clearly explain why it was removed | 10:18 |
sectech | obsolete.... | 10:19 |
sectech | morning pedro_ | 10:19 |
sectech | anyway bbl, getting ready for work | 10:20 |
pedro_ | hello sectech | 10:20 |
isforinsects | So do you have any pointers for filing the bug reports? | 10:33 |
isforinsects | Or removal requests? | 10:33 |
mgunes | isforinsects, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs | 10:34 |
emgent | heya | 11:50 |
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Pierre | hi | 14:04 |
Pierre | anyone notices huge slowdown in firefox3 in comparison with ff2? (on last ubuntu vs ubuntu-1) | 14:05 |
Hobbsee | nope | 14:07 |
* Hobbsee has had the opposite. | 14:07 | |
Pierre | Hobbsee: net acces is slow, autocomplete takes seconds to find smtg, etc. Reproducible on three boxes | 14:08 |
Pierre | and JS is... gmail is now unusable :) | 14:08 |
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pedro_ | is KelvinGardiner in the channel? | 15:54 |
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pochu | thekorn: you have mail :) | 20:06 |
pck-chem | quick question for those csh-ers. I'm using a program that requires the use of the c shell and I need to edit my .cshrc file. Where is this file? and if I need to make it myself, where should I do that? thanks. | 20:14 |
thekorn | pochu, do you mean the one from ~5hrs ago? | 20:23 |
thekorn | I already replied to this one | 20:24 |
pochu | thekorn: ah, right | 21:15 |
penguin42 | hi, a bug of mine #229067 has a connection to an external KDE bug, but it's been marked as invalid - I'm not 100% sure, but I think the reason is that the upstream bug has been marked as a dupe - does launchpad now need tying to that other bug? | 21:24 |
pck-chem | It wouldn't hurt. | 21:26 |
pck-chem | bug 229067 | 21:26 |
pck-chem | bug #229067 | 21:26 |
penguin42 | It looks like they have a fix for it as well, so it would be a good thing to pick the fix up since it segs konq | 21:27 |
penguin42 | hohum, I've added a comment | 21:34 |
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sectech | I'm surprised a "[needs-packaging] Firefox 3-RC1" hasn't come across launchpad yet | 23:34 |
gnomefreak | sectech: it has | 23:37 |
gnomefreak | sectech: its being taken care of | 23:37 |
gnomefreak | sectech: hard part is its UDS week this week but we have been testing it since b5 came out | 23:38 |
sectech | Oh I stand corrected... | 23:39 |
gnomefreak | since fta;s ppa is synced it will update and we will push final RC | 23:39 |
sectech | I just saw a post of /. saying it was out....Guess I didn't see it go through launchpad... | 23:44 |
sectech | then again I am running on 3 hours sleep so I am not seeing much of launchpad today | 23:44 |
gnomefreak | sectech: i get emails from mozilla before and at time of release plus app-days the whole team does, so we know we test snapshots all through process, people have this issue where they have to have it the sec it comes out | 23:47 |
sectech | lol true enough.... | 23:48 |
gnomefreak | ok ill be back, if you see a bug like that please close it and tell them we are working on it and send them to #ubuntu-mozillateam if they have more questions or they can ask on mailing list | 23:52 |
gnomefreak | be back i have to reboot | 23:53 |
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