[00:16] Hey everyone, what was the decision made with emma? was she to be unbanned from channels now? [00:16] * gnomefreak would say give her another shot [00:17] but as for the masses i dont know [00:17] its not really that hard to re-ban her [00:18] is there still a ubuntu-uncensored pointing to something else? [00:18] that is my only question [00:18] not sure but the namespace is not so good IMHO [00:18] if it was not dropped fully then I would have questoins [00:18] yeah, she is allowed in #ubuntu but still banned from #kubuntu - can I unban her? [00:19] jussi01, I would say ask the banning person [00:19] Channel: ##ubuntu-uncensored Topic: THIS CHANNEL HAS BEEN REDIRECTED TO: ##club-ubunt [00:20] so really that should be dropped from my community view [00:20] ompaul: we dont have a BT that goes that far back. [00:20] as in - it serves no purpose [00:20] jussi01, ok clue ;-) ask the pointy stick of doom [00:20] im sure the ban was just a mass ban [00:20] yep she would have been the banned :) [00:20] jussi01, the ban list says who owns the ban [00:21] ompaul: not always [00:21] [02:16:38] * 367 #kubuntu *!*@200.93.121.56 ballard.freenode.net 1208297872 [00:21] jussi01, there are netsplits and as if to make the point [00:22] * ompaul configures firewall rules for holiday [00:23] holiday? [00:23] monday is canada holiday [00:23] ompaul: holiday rules? [00:23] and UDS holiday [00:24] Seeker`, for me to get back into the house while I am away [00:24] :) [00:24] Ok, if no-one has any objections, I will unban her - cant see why not as she has been allowed back into #ubuntu. Any problems a re-ban will fix. [01:26] PriceChild: the people at UDS [01:27] jussi01: [01:27] jussi01: she's still arguing over the fact that she's not arguing, after reentry to #ubuntu [01:27] if you want her in #kubuntu, go ahead. [01:28] jussi01: jus tmake sure you check the information she gives, as some of it was known wrong. [01:30] yeah that is so [01:31] Who are you talking about? [01:31] And what about the people at UDS? :) [01:33] Amaranth: they're not cloaked unless they've authed. [01:33] ah [01:33] but they should at least get a cloak showing they're at UDS [01:33] that's how it usually works [01:33] yes. that's the point. [01:33] then a member cloak will override it [01:33] yes. [01:34] however, if they don't actually request a cloak, which IS said it would last itme, it doesn't happen. [01:34] * Hobbsee emailed, and is now poking people to action it. [01:34] well if you don't ask freenode for it they'll just ban all of us for too many people from one IP [01:34] exactly [01:37] then i'll find open wifi somewhere in prague and lart the council ;) [01:42] Hi, I would like to be able to join #ubuntu from the java-chat service Mibbit.com, since my uni has the firewall set up blocking both standard and 8000-8002 ports, (or so I guess, since I can't connect.). [01:42] Would that be possible? [01:43] I've heard something about magic hostname cloaks...? [01:43] Ienorand, did you follow the instructions in the channel #ubuntu-proxy-users? [01:44] yes, I've tried connecting through ports 8000-*2. [01:44] Ienorand: Try again joining #ubuntu, you've been granted temporary access from your web gateway. Don't leave this channel until you've joined! (Also, on some browsers it may take up to a minute or more to sync to #ubuntu, so please be patient for a while before killing the browser and trying again) [01:44] did you follow *that* [01:44] * elkbuntu headdesks [01:46] Ienorand: Try again joining #ubuntu, you've been granted temporary access from your web gateway. Don't leave this channel until you've joined! (Also, on some browsers it may take up to a minute or more to sync to #ubuntu, so please be patient for a while before killing the browser and trying again) [01:47] you need to join #ubuntu-proxy-users [01:47] then wait for the above [01:47] then join #ubuntu [01:47] Ienorand, please join #ubuntu-proxy-users [01:48] Yes, but I seem to never get that message, I got it for a while (month ago maybe) but now it just waits forever... [01:48] Ienorand, you got that message today [01:48] the paste above is from 15 minutes ago [01:48] right before you did !proxy [01:50] LjL, the mibbit message is being done way too quickly, please delay it a little longer [02:01] Hello people. [02:02] I was banned from *-offtopic some time in the last day or so, and I do not know why. [03:08] Pelo called the ops in #ubuntu (buntu) [03:08] * johnc4510 jussi01 thx for setting up the bot in the AZ channel, it's working fine [03:36] wols [04:02] In #ubuntu-us-az, johnc4510 said: !meeting-AZTeam is The Ubuntu Arizona LoCo team meetings are every Sunday at 9:00 PM Arizona time in our team channel, #ubuntu-us-az. Everyone is welcome!! [04:38] !meeting [04:38] Team meetings are held in #ubuntu-meeting - See « /msg ubottu logs » for transcripts. [04:38] !meeting-#ubuntu-us-az is The Ubuntu Arizona LoCo team meetings are every Sunday at 9:00 PM Arizona time in our team channel, #ubuntu-us-az. Everyone is welcome!! [04:38] I'll remember that, Amaranth [04:38] !meeting-#ubuntu-us-az [04:38] meeting is The Ubuntu Arizona LoCo team meetings are every Sunday at 9:00 PM Arizona time in our team channel, #ubuntu-us-az. Everyone is welcome!! [04:38] Amaranth: thx [04:38] !no meeting-#ubuntu-us-az is The Ubuntu Arizona LoCo team meetings are every Sunday at 9:00 PM Arizona time in our team channel, #ubuntu-us-az. Everyone is welcome!! [04:38] I'll remember that Amaranth [04:38] johnc4510: now when you do !meeting in your channel it'll say that [04:39] yep, thx [04:39] :) [04:48] Amaranth: thx again cya [07:26] In #ubuntu, mauro said: ubottu: alsamixer is not working [07:26] In #ubuntu, mauro said: ubottu: alsamixer is not working [07:42] poor bot [07:42] !bot > mauro [07:42] ohh time lag [07:42] :) [10:05] ubottu? [10:06] bazhang: back in a min [10:06] there we are [10:06] ooh thanks jussi01 :) [12:19] jussi01, pm [12:31] In ubottu, ikonia said: !no themes is Find theme options at http://www.gnome-look.org and http://www.kde-look.org. A google search will show additional sites. Also see Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy [12:32] jenda, you get that mail? [12:32] jenda, please see pm [14:18] mneptok: ping [14:21] guys, the channel #ubuntu-ps3 was registered. at the time, since the council wasn't available, a member of the operator team registered itself and gave me access. [14:21] now I have to change a few things, give access, basically, and I can't do it with my current level. [14:22] gouki: Id say you need to contact the original guy and ask him to raise your level [14:22] no no, UbuntuIrcCouncil owns the channel [14:22] so any one of them can do it [14:22] oh [14:23] jussi01: that's what I though, that's why I pinged mneptok_, but then I saw the council owns it. [14:25] So ... Doable? [14:25] tsfph [14:25] gouki: you would then need to find someone from the IRC council if I understad Amaranth correctly [14:26] jussi01: thanks. I'll just wait until someone reads it :) [14:26] :) [14:39] argh spainish [15:13] gouki, explain #ubuntu-ps3 to me [15:26] how can there be an official #ubuntu-ps3 channel, when the ubuntu PPC version is community support and the ubuntu ps3 project is not an official project ? === juliux is now known as Juliux_HSV [15:27] I would think that ps3 should be supported in PPC anyway.... [15:27] ikonia: since when were "offical" channels dependent on canonical support [15:27] I don't know [15:27] I'm asking [15:27] jussi01: thats more sensible as it's only the hypervisor that makes it difference [15:27] different even [15:31] ikonia, there's numerous community support and development channels [15:32] totally, I get that, I thought they had to be "official" ubuntu projects to be official ubuntu channels [15:32] eg: ppc is an official ubuntu project [15:32] but PS3 distro isn't [15:33] I didn't mean it had to be tied to canonical support [15:33] I just thought it was related to ubuntu projects [15:39] elkbuntu: a channel for the Ubuntu PS3 port === Juliux_HSV is now known as juliux [15:43] ehrm [15:43] isn't ps3 just a kernel + ppc? [15:43] elkbuntu: anything else you need? [15:52] For all the unanswered questions about the port, please join the channel if you want to discuss it. [16:06] jenda: are you awake please, I've just had a phone call from ompaul [16:11] ikonia: scary :P [16:16] I'm petrified [16:21] why did ompaul call you? [16:28] stuck at airport [16:28] on his way to UDS? [16:28] yup [16:29] eth01 called the ops in #ubuntu (zubu flooding) [16:38] ikonia: ouch [16:56] arg [17:04] oh fun [17:04] yes emma [17:05] Yes? [17:05] you have something official you wish to discuss? [17:06] You told me to join ubuntu-ops. You are an op so I am obeying you. [17:06] emma is this in regard to something not to do with #ubuntu support? [17:08] I'm not sure what you are referring to by 'this'. You asked me to come here. [17:09] emma; you PM'ed me-->I asked to say in channel for benefit of all is this not to do with ubuntu support (your reason for PM being = this) [17:09] emma: AIUI, you PM'd bazhang tot alk to him about something [17:09] he said to ask to pm him, and to keep discussion in the channel [17:09] Yes and that is what I did. [17:10] emma you PM'ed me without asking first [17:10] you said do you want to discuss comments he made in the hannel, and he said to join here - i assume to discuss what you wanted to say in PM [17:10] I've pmed you many times before without asking first. To the best of my knowledge that is standard and acceptable procedure when contacting ops. [17:11] I was under the impression that ops were available in that way. [17:11] emma: it still may be polite to ask [17:11] emma what was the subject of your PM? I was very busy in the channel and often will ask users to say their issues to the entire channel [17:13] emma is this some personal issue not suitable for here or the ubuntu support channel? [17:14] I understand. In order to understand me better it is best if you think of me as an adult who spent most of their lives learning social interaction off line. I was trying to be discrete but I think that asking me to come in here, and then this conversation is taking that in another direction. [17:15] Over the last couple of weeks I've chosen not to come in here, because I've felt that might be the best course of action in terms of helping people to get over their hard feelings. As I have. :) [17:15] not sure I follow emma; if it is a non-support issue, and non-official, then one would doubly expect the courtesy of asking first. [17:15] please let me know if that is the case emma [17:17] Well the reason I pmed you is because of a comment that you made as an op that seemed to be directed toward me. On the one hand that is 'official' in the sense that you are an Ubuntu op, but on the other hand it seems like something to be clarified discretely in order so that you are not put on the spot needlessly. [17:18] emma would that be from the logs or in the main channel [17:19] If you can understand though. On the one hand I've chosen not to come in here in order to promote the general peace, and then on the other hand I want to do what an op asks me to do. You asked me to come in here. And so here I am. [17:19] Now it becomes delicate because, my feeling is that most anything I say will not be read fairly by some people. And this is a difficult position for anyone to be in. [17:20] emma Please explain this for us [17:20] Over the last couple of weeks I've chosen not to come in here, because I've felt that might be the best course of action in terms of helping people to get over their hard feelings. As I have. :) [17:20] What hard feelings are we talking about [17:21] Well Jack_Sparrow I think that going into that very much would be counter productive in exactly the way that paragraph is alluding to. [17:22] emma I'm not sure what the 'some people' alludes to; did you havea personal(non-support, non-official) issue you wished to discuss with me? [17:23] bazhang - Nothing is personal with me. I wanted to clarify something that you seemed to be affirming that was said about me, in this channel, while I was not here. [17:23] I think she was trying to raise a non-support, semi-official topic with you [17:24] ok, I'm getting confused here [17:24] emma and you feel discussing this with me in a PM would be more appropriate somehow? do you a complaint to raise? [17:24] err have [17:25] I have to tell you gentlemen, some times I get the feeling I cannot win for losing :) I have done what a human being can do to reach out in reconciliation and peace but some times seem to be met with a needlessly hard line. [17:25] Myrtti: I'm on your boat... [17:26] what is Metabot? [17:26] bazhang, I feel that discussing something that relates directly to you, in PM is more respectful to you, especially since you might clarify it and it would be nothing at all. [17:27] bazhang - As you see by asking me to come in here, even as I'm trying to take a professional approach with you, it seems to make a production out of things that I was generally trying to avoid. [17:27] But as I said, it is a delicate thing for me because on the one hand I am trying to avoid any drama, and on the other hand, you told me to come here. I calculated that doing what you asked was the best thing. I hope no one feels I made a mistake. [17:29] emma indeed; I asked you to come here thinking you had some complaint to raise; many users who feel harassed in #ubuntu will do so from time to time--is that not the case here? [17:30] I have no reason to think so. But I also do not really think that this channel is a useful place for people to raise complaints or to try to speak with Ubuntu ops the way that two equal adults might speak to one another off line. This is just my opinion though. Others may think differently. [17:31] bazhang: can emma PM you to discuss what she wishes to discuss? [17:31] Anyone from the Council around? [17:32] Seeker`, it is not necessary. [17:32] Will there be anything else that any of you would like to discuss? [17:32] Seeker`, I wanted to be sure that it was indeed a personal issue she was having not related to ubuntu support nor official business--ie being harassed in channel from time to time (as some users are wont to do) [17:32] emma: ok, is there anything else we can help you with [17:32] Seeker`, I asked you first. :) [17:32] emma: No that I am aware of. [17:33] Seeker`, okay then. [17:33] emma if there is nothing in the way of a complaint that you have to raise (my reason for suggesting this venue) then no real need. [17:33] bazhang, was there anything else you would like to discuss? [17:33] It sounds like everything has been covered emma [17:34] Okay great. Everyone take care. [17:34] :rolleyes: [17:35] good thing it got sorted out, I got really confused there about who said what about whom when why [17:35] blech [17:35] and please, don't try to explain [17:35] lol === gnomefre2k is now known as gnomefreak [18:21] jussi01: hi. so i guess ubottu didn't get ubotus user-db, can i have edit-factoid-privileges please? [18:22] fdoving: yes, it did. did you try @login ? [18:23] not sure what i tried, used my /ubotulogin alias with modified nick. i'll check. [18:23] fdoving: please just try: @login [18:23] @login [18:23] Myrtti: The operation succeeded. [18:24] just like that? [18:24] @login [18:24] yep [18:24] fdoving: The operation succeeded. [18:24] @login [18:24] Seeker`: The operation succeeded. [18:24] oh. [18:24] see [18:24] fdoving: now try adding factoids [18:24] wasn't that hard [18:24] :) [18:24] i used to use some %identify username password thing. [18:24] fdoving: no need for that anymore :) [18:24] !seeker is test [18:24] I'll remember that, Seeker` [18:24] @whoami [18:24] Myrtti: myrtti [18:24] @whoami [18:24] fdoving: fdoving [18:25] wow, I didn't know I had edit privleges [18:25] !seeker [18:25] seeker is test [18:25] there we are. [18:25] nice. [18:25] how do you delete factoids? [18:25] !forget seeker [18:25] I'll forget that, Myrtti [18:25] !forget seeker [18:25] I know nothing about seeker yet, jussi01 [18:25] ty [18:25] heh [18:25] haha [18:25] too quick [18:25] !fdovingtest is hello world. [18:25] I'll remember that, fdoving [18:25] @whoami [18:25] jdavies: jdavies [18:25] !forget fdovingtest [18:25] I'll forget that, fdoving [18:25] ok, thanks a bunch :) [18:25] ok, please dot overload her [18:26] * Seeker` pats ubottu [18:26] we missed her earlier :) [18:26] ♥ ubottu [18:26] Seeker`: if you have +v in here, then you shoud have edit rights IIRC [18:27] I cant remeber exactly how that works, stdin set it up. [18:27] I knew i could access the bantracker, but wasn't aware that I could edit factoids [18:28] :) [18:48] I don't have either :'( [18:49] Gary: you dont have ? [18:50] or do I? [18:50] Gary: you have a voice do you not...? [18:50] * Gary squeeks [18:50] yes [18:50] Gary: please try @login [18:50] @login [18:50] Gary: The operation succeeded. [18:51] now test facoid? [18:51] factoid even [18:52] !gary is scary [18:52] But gary already means something else! [18:52] !gary [18:52] Gary is as Gary does, on the other hand four fingers and a thumb! [18:52] !forget Gary [18:52] I know nothing about Gary yet, Gary [18:52] yay [18:52] !gary [18:52] heh [18:52] !gary [18:52] Gary is as Gary does, on the other hand four fingers and a thumb! [18:52] is it case sensitive [18:53] !forget gary [18:53] I'll forget that, Gary [18:53] yay [18:53] it should .lower() things [18:53] result [18:53] Gary: check this though... [18:53] !unforget gary [18:53] I suddenly remember gary again, jussi01 [18:53] :) [18:54] arghhh [18:54] I hate that one though [18:54] I know... hence we keep it... :D [18:54] meh [18:55] where is the ban tracker? [18:55] Gary: do @btlogin [18:55] @btlogin [18:55] now see the pm from ubottu [18:55] :) [18:56] ahh haa [18:56] !bazhang [18:56] Factoid bazhang not found [18:56] owww all my old gazzak bans are gone [18:56] :( [18:56] Gary: hahahah [18:57] oh, the bantracker got improved pretty much since the last time i logged into it. :) [18:58] woo Dr Who [18:59] I banned screenname92834 for ot then calling ub ops.. secret police and amatures.. just a little fyi [18:59] ubottu: tell Jack_ about guidelines [18:59] jdavies: Error: I haven't seen Jack_, I'll let you do the telling. [19:00] Gary: have I missed anything [19:01] meh, was Jake_ but ... [19:01] Seeker`: it's only just started [19:01] i missed the pre-title bit [19:13] Screenname seems to now be on a mission in offtopic.. [19:21] In #ubuntu, rouini said: ubottu:yes this is true but Ubuntu is better then windows [19:22] @login [19:22] bazhang: The operation succeeded. [19:24] what is the syntax for a banforward? [19:24] Seeker` was it /cs bf nick channel [19:24] I mean the real syntax, not the syntax for a script I dont have [19:25] /mode +b *!*@*!##fix_your_connection [19:25] ty [19:53] Hobbsee: a gateway masl? [19:53] *mask? [20:35] Thanks for banning me. [20:35] I don't use Ubuntu. However, the neighbor does. [20:35] very childish PleaseKlineMe [20:36] Gary: He uses my wireless. [20:36] well secure it then [20:36] I can't because my Linux driver won't support it. [20:37] secure it by mac address then [20:37] but trolling freenode is just petty [20:38] He emulates my mac. ;( [20:38] Okay. [20:38] childish [20:39] I'm going to break into his apartment though the window to get him back. You're right, getting him banned is just petty. [20:40] Maybe plug all the drains and turn the water on. [20:40] I think it's safe to say that you're a little off topic here. [20:53] ok... [22:18] Any Council member around? [22:19] gouki: what's up? [22:19] PriceChild: remember #ubuntu-ps3? [22:20] nope [22:20] PriceChild: You gave the OK to register it when I talked about it. [22:20] PriceChild: Currently I can't set access to anyone, and I need to [22:21] PriceChild: So I'm going to need an access level of 30, IIRC. [22:22] Or someone can give the access the to person in question and I continue with the same access level. [22:22] gouki: you registered it, the irccouncil seems to own it for some reason atm? [22:22] PriceChild: mneptok set it that way (I think it was him, not sure). [22:23] gouki: he couldn't do that if you registered it [22:23] gouki: why do you want 30? [22:23] PriceChild: and I didn't registered it. mneptok did, because we weren't sure the council would approve. === juliux__ is now known as juliux [22:24] PriceChild: like I said, to set access. [22:25] juliux: anything we can do for you? [22:25] gouki: who do you want adding? [22:25] Seeker`: nothing to worry about [22:25] PriceChild: His nickname? [22:26] Seeker`, just idleing and waiting if somebody from the german ubuntu channels complaints about his ban [22:26] juliux: ah, cool [22:26] Seeker`, i am the contact for #ubutnu-de, #edubuntu-de and #xubuntu-de ,) [22:27] gouki: yup [22:27] I take it you're from Germany then :P [22:27] PriceChild: munckfish [22:27] PriceChild: Shouldn't juliux have +v then? [22:28] PriceChild: He's a developer of the port. [22:28] Seeker`, you get 99points;) if you have 100 you get free voice at #ubuntu-de-offtopic [22:28] ;) [22:28] Seeker`, i am not a op in #ubuntu* [22:28] what aobut #ubuntu-de? [22:29] Seeker`, #ubuntu-de-offtopic is +m;9 [22:29] Seeker`, in #ubuntu-de you don´ t need voice [22:30] juliux: the #ubuntu-de comment was related to your "i am not an op in #ubuntu*" [22:30] Seeker`, in the past +v was only for the ops in #ubuntu [22:31] * Seeker` has a +v and isn't an op in #ubuntu [22:31] hmm [22:31] i think i don't need +v ;) [22:31] PriceChild: Will you set it up? [22:31] gouki: launchpad url? [22:31] apa [22:31] A second! [22:32] +v's in here are a little odd [22:32] PriceChild: https://edge.launchpad.net/~munckfish [22:32] PriceChild: what else? [22:32] AIUI, v in here is "we dont mind them sticking around for a bit" [22:34] gouki: I've added it. [22:34] PriceChild: Thanks [22:34] Seeker`, ahh