[01:00] <mornfall> Back to Brno.
[01:00] <mornfall> G'night folks.
[02:03] <Riddell> mornfall: sleep well
[04:26] <nixternal> ls
[04:27] <nixternal> hah, wrong window
[04:29] <yuriy> i guess that would be equivalent to a /who
[04:31] <nixternal> hehe, you would think right?
[04:31] <nixternal> I thought about that before actually
[11:16]  * seele yawns
[11:16] <seele> made it in one piece i suppose
[11:17] <jussi01> hello seele
[11:18] <seele> hihi
[11:18] <seele> a shower would be good right now
[11:19] <jussi01> seele: did you just get to uds?
[11:19] <seele> jussi01: yep
[11:19]  * jussi01 is envious... I have 3 exams this week... :/
[11:24] <Riddell> seele!
[11:24] <Riddell> seele: where are you?
[11:28] <jussi01> Riddell: who do i have to be nice to, as to get sponsorship for the next UDS? :)
[11:30] <Riddell> jussi01: me?
[11:31] <jussi01> Riddell: ahh... :D
[11:32] <jussi01> Riddell: serioudsly though, what is the criteria for selection of those sponsored?
[11:35] <Riddell> jussi01: people who have time to come, have made a contribution to kubuntu and who's further contribution would benefit from meeting people in real life
[11:36] <jussi01> Riddell: ahh, thought it would be something like that - just making sure that there were no hidden bits that I needed to worry about :)
[11:40] <seele> Riddell: 631
[11:42] <Riddell> seele: we're all on the third floor
[11:42] <Riddell> wondering about going out in the rain
[11:43] <seele> yeah.. do we have umbrellas?
[11:43] <seele> i thought about bringing one, and then i forgot it in my car
[11:43] <Riddell> lydia does
[11:43] <jdavies> why aren't you all in #ubuntu-devel-summit?
[11:43] <Riddell> #uds-intrepid is the one written on the board
[11:44] <seele> Riddell: is the conference on the third floor as well?
[11:45] <Riddell> seele: yes
[11:47] <Riddell> seele: going to appear?
[11:48] <seele> Riddell: i just got out of the shower, so i'm working on becoming presentable :P
[11:48] <seele> but i haven't slept since i left, so i'm on the fence depending on what you guys plan on doing
[11:49] <Riddell> seele: you can't sleep now, if you do you'll never get into the right timezone
[11:50] <Riddell> I'm also hungry and in need of breakfast
[11:50] <seele> what time is it here? it should be past midday..
[11:51] <seele> hmm
[11:51] <seele> ok give me ten minutes and i'll head down to 3
[11:51] <Riddell> it's 12:51
[12:18] <mornfall> Yes, I need breakfast too.
[13:35] <jussi01> mornfall: would you remind me where I can get the new adept to try?
[13:39] <mornfall> jussi01: How much new? One's in my PPA.
[13:39] <mornfall> jussi01: Although new Qt doesn't like it very much, it seems.
[13:40] <jussi01> mornfall: ahh... ok. Just after something I can test out, see how it is and of course tell you about all the nasty faults I find ;) :P
[13:40] <mornfall> Well, alpha4 might be crashy if you have Qt 4.4.
[13:41] <mornfall> But try it out nevertheless.
[13:41] <jussi01> I do have 4.4 ;)
[13:41] <jussi01> ok, for the lazy part of me, mind giving me the deb line?
[13:46] <mornfall> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mornfall/ubuntu hardy main
[13:55] <mornfall> Wow, lots of water falling from sky.
[14:13] <jussi01> mornfall: does your adept not have a menu entry?
[14:13] <mornfall> jussi01: No idea, really.
[14:14] <jussi01> dost seem to be in my menus :/
[14:14] <jussi01> doesnt
[14:14] <mornfall> Just run it from commandline as sudo adept_manager.
[14:14] <jussi01> not kdesudo?
[14:18] <jussi01> mornfall: hrm, even stranger, I dont even have adept_manager anymore
[14:19] <mornfall> Are you sure you have installed it?
[14:22] <jussi01> whats the package name? I just hit upgrade and it upgraded adept afaik.
[14:23] <mornfall> adept-manager I guess...
[14:25] <jussi01> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13019/
[15:20] <yuriy> morning
[15:46] <yuriy> is the UDS schedule up somewhere?
[16:23] <Riddell> yuriy: only thing I know is http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-drivers/uds-intrepid/trunk/files
[17:28] <nixternal> mornin'
[18:47] <mhb> Riddell: hope you had a nice day today
[18:47] <mhb> although a bit rainy
[18:47] <mhb> and without me :o)
[18:47] <seele> mhb: are you going to be around tomorrow or not until your last exam?
[18:47] <mhb> I'll be there tomorrow all day
[18:48] <seele> great
[18:48] <mhb> my first exam is tuesday around 17:30
[18:49] <mhb> and the other one is on wednesday, it seems likely that I won't make it on that day.
[18:49] <mhb> otherwise I'm there.
[18:49] <seele> cool
[18:50] <mhb> well, examless week would be cooler
[18:50] <mhb> but what can I do
[18:50] <mhb> :o)
[18:50] <ScottK-uds> mhb: It will be great to meet you.  I've just arrived.
[18:50] <seele> hum.. are there any signature czech/slavic meals that *dont* have meat in them?
[18:51] <seele> although it looks like pork cured one way or another tends to be the focus
[18:51] <mhb> seele: hmm, sure!
[18:51] <seele> haha.. you'll have to give me some ideas so i don't end up eating salad all week :)
[18:52] <seele> or cheese pizza
[18:52] <mhb> ScottK-uds: you too... well, unless you are going to question my english all week :o)
[18:53] <ScottK-uds> mhb: Not until my Czech is better than your English.  It'll be a while.
[18:54] <ScottK-uds> mhb: I fully appreciate the extra effort people who are not native English speakers go to to participate in an English oriented environment like that.
[18:54] <mhb> ScottK-uds: okay :o)
[18:55] <mhb> ScottK-uds: that sounds pretty wise
[18:56] <ScottK-uds> BTW, there is #ubuntu-devel-summit for those that are interested.
[18:57] <seele> ScottK-uds: is that the same as #uds-intrepid?
[18:57] <ScottK-uds> Nope.
[18:58] <yuriy> hmm what's the difference, other than a different set of people?
[18:58] <ScottK-uds> Since the topic setter in #ubuntu-devel-summit was mdz, I'm guessing that's the official one.
[18:58]  * ScottK-uds just got here.  Dunno.
[19:00] <mhb> so what's planned for tomorrow?
[19:00] <ScottK-uds> Anyone know why kopete opens wallet when I did NOT tell it to remember my password?
[19:00] <mhb> I can't seem to reach that file Riddell pointed at, and I have no other schedule.
[19:00] <mhb> a bug maybe?
[19:00] <ScottK-uds> mhb: It'll be in LP at some point.  What page did Riddell point at?
[19:01] <mhb> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-drivers/uds-intrepid/trunk/files
[19:02] <mhb> but I guess it might be restricted.
[19:02] <ScottK-uds> I don't think it's been created yet.
[19:02] <ScottK-uds> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-intrepid/ is still empty and it's the specs they build the schedule around.
[19:02] <mhb> okay.
[19:02] <mhb> so, have you discussed anything interesting yet?
[19:03] <ScottK-uds> We start at 9AM on the 3rd floor on the hotel is all I know.
[19:03] <mhb> yup, me too
[19:03] <mhb> hope I'll be able to find you guys
[19:03] <ScottK-uds> So far I've checked in to the hotel, walked up to my room, and fired up my laptop so I could email my wife I made it OK.
[19:06] <mhb> well, I better get back to learning
[19:06] <mhb> see you guys tomorrow
[20:00] <rohan> is something wrong with hardy-backports? recently, apt-get told me a whole lot of -dev libraries were useless, and remove them
[20:00] <rohan> today, it's asking to install them again
[20:00] <rohan> it seems to be related to qt 4.4 in backports
[20:00] <rohan> what's the problem? :o
[20:04] <rohan> lot's of X related -dev packages
[20:18] <rohan> packages like x11proto-randr-dev libxt-dev libglu1-xorg-dev etc
[20:18] <rohan> i doubt if they're required for Qt development
[20:35] <Riddell> hi ScottK
[21:07] <Riddell> http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/uds-intrepid/
[21:08]  * Riddell wonders what Firefox KDE integration  is about
[21:10] <Riddell> so nothing KDE specific until towards the end of the day
[21:10] <smarter_> Riddell: open/save dialogs, print dialog?
[21:10] <Riddell> where?
[21:11] <smarter_> in firefox, unless you use some hacks it uses gtk dialog for ctrl+o/s/...
[21:12] <Riddell> oh right
[21:12] <Riddell> shrug, I doubt it's actually much of a problem
[21:12] <daskReech> hacks?
[21:12] <daskReech> j partedmagic
[21:13] <smarter_> kgtk, or something to change in a preference script
[21:13]  * daskReech raises hand and asks if there are any Koffice Alpha 7 packages 
[21:13] <smarter_> this is really annoying when you download a file and it asks with what apps you should open it, it takes ages to list /usr/bin
[21:15] <daskReech> can't you just type it in ?
[21:21] <JontheEchidna> What was that uber-1337 command that forces apt to overwrite a file while upgrading?
[21:53] <Riddell> daskReech: waiting on kde 4.0.73 packages which are waiting on main inclusion reports
[21:54] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: --force-overwrite
[21:55] <JontheEchidna> Ah, it's dpkg that you can use that option with, not apt.
[21:55] <daskReech> Riddell: Ah right. ok
[22:02] <Nightrose> re
[22:02] <Nightrose> Riddell: made it back ;-)
[22:02] <Nightrose> raining like hell here :(
[22:02] <Riddell> Nightrose: glad you got back
[22:03] <Nightrose> ;-)
[22:03]  * Riddell snoozes
[22:03] <Nightrose> nini
[22:04] <daskReech> I should write KMymoney
[22:04] <daskReech> Riddell: quick ping before bed ?
[22:05] <daskReech> Should I write the jasper folks on the license issue?
[22:20] <mhb> Riddell: see you tomorrow!
[22:20] <mornfall> Bwoo.
[22:20] <mhb> hey
[22:20] <mornfall> yuriy: Poke?
[22:29] <mornfall> (Or anyone with enough guts to build adept from darcs?)
[23:11] <mhb> ScottK-uds: hi
[23:11] <mhb> ScottK-uds: you still awake?
[23:12] <ScottK-uds> Yep
[23:12] <mhb> ScottK-uds: I just wondered... how long does an average UDS day take?
[23:12] <mhb> from 09:00 until... ?
[23:13] <ScottK-uds> I'd guess 1600 or 1700.
[23:13] <mhb> groovy.
[23:13] <mhb> Thank you.
[23:13] <ScottK-uds> Once you go to the kickoff at 0900 tomorrow you'll have a much clearer idea how it works.
[23:13] <ScottK-uds> No problem.
[23:17] <nixternal> how goeth the weather in Prague?
[23:19] <ScottK-uds> It's pleasant.  I was in Duluth, MN last weekend and it seems similar.
[23:19] <Nightrose> http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2008/05/19/rocking-hard-and-swimming-upstream/
[23:20] <Nightrose> nixternal: it was raining the whole day (at least until I left) :(
[23:20] <Nightrose> and the same here now :/
[23:20] <Nightrose> I should have stayed in prague :P
[23:21] <nixternal> hehe
[23:22] <ScottK-uds> Nightrose: Thanks for that.  Sorry to have missed meeting you.
[23:22] <Nightrose> ScottK-uds: yea too bad :(