[12:00] <asac> hi
[12:00] <asac> [reed]: there?
[12:01] <asac> weather is somewhat sub-optimal ;)
[12:39] <[reed]> asac: mmm
[12:40] <asac> [reed]: did you have a safe trip back?
[12:42] <asac> jeroen--: updating to RC requires a bunch of QA on our side to be sure to not regress anybody. the package will go up to hardy-proposed pretty soon. then it depends on the amount of testing we get
[12:44] <asac> fta: did you do a local build of RC1 yet?
[12:44] <fta> sure, it's in my ppa
[12:45] <fta> from 5 days ago
[12:45] <asac> fta: yeah ... local because there is the en-US.xpi produced ;)
[12:46] <asac> we cant get that from the ppa
[12:46] <fta> oh, hm, let me check
[12:46] <asac> but let me grab the orig.tar.gz for now
[12:47] <fta> yes, i've built it locally
[12:47] <asac> was http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14501916/xulrunner-1.9_1.9%7Erc1%2Bnobinonly.orig.tar.gz checked out with the final RC1 tag?
[12:48] <fta> yes
[12:48] <asac> fta: do you see the en-US.xpi in your debian/*xpi*/ dir?
[12:49] <fta> yes
[12:49] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13003/
[12:50] <asac> fta: does the install.rdf look reasonable? e.g. right version number?
[12:50] <asac> (in particular for max/min version)
[12:50] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13004/
[12:51] <fta> maybe we can drop rc
[12:51] <asac> fta: ok. i think we have to bump the minVersion
[12:51] <asac> hmm
[12:51] <asac> it should be 1.9pre shouldn't it?
[12:52] <fta> no, pre is gone
[12:52] <asac> fta: really? so version is 1.9 now?
[12:52] <asac> then we should bump min and max to 1.9 i guess
[12:53] <asac> for 1.9.1 we will go for min 1.9 +  max 1.9.* in the hope that there will be no string breakage anymore ;)
[12:53] <fta> yes, RC1 is just a fake name, xul says 1.9
[12:53] <asac> ok cool
[12:53] <asac> lets use 1.9 for both in this release
[12:53] <fta> min too ?
[12:54] <asac> fta: yeah ... using the langpack with b5 will break UI because entities were renamed
[12:54] <asac> i wasn't aware that they would really drop entities when i introduced the initial versioning
[12:55] <asac> always thought that they would only add new ones :(
[12:55] <fta> i need to tweak the LOCALE_VERSION too
[12:56] <asac> most likely yes
[12:56] <asac> but that is not so important. just needs to be higher than the previous one i guess
[12:56] <asac> and even that is not really required i guess
[12:58] <fta> well, it's not need 1.9 is contained in 1.9rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1
[13:00] <[reed]> asac: yeah, it was fine
[13:01] <[reed]> slept for a while, woke up early this morning at 5 something, checked mail for a while, went back to bed, woke up at 10 something, went back to bed
[13:01] <[reed]> :P
[13:02] <fta2> laptop crashed
[13:02] <[reed]> lol
[13:02] <fta2> seems to be a h/w issue
[13:03] <fta2> good my roommate is a dell guy :)
[13:03] <[reed]> hah
[13:10] <fta2> hm, i can't push. is lp dead ?
[13:11] <asac> [reed]: is your roomie there yet?
[13:14] <[reed]> asac: nope, not for another 2.5 hours or so
[13:18] <fta2> asac, pushed both xul and ff
[13:19] <[reed]> need to get VPN working completely so that I can listen to pandora.com
[13:19] <[reed]> :)
[13:28] <[reed]> hah
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[13:28] <[reed]> tomorrow
[13:28]  * [reed] laughs
[13:29] <fta> where is that ?
[13:30] <[reed]> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-drivers/uds-intrepid/trunk
[13:30] <[reed]> I'm not exactly sure how I actually view it all put together, though
[13:31] <asac> fta: good
[13:32] <asac> the idea about kde is to finally get input what kde needs and how to get that done
[13:33] <asac> schedule is here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/uds-intrepid/
[13:34] <asac> wow i am responsible for every session in the platform track tomorrow
[13:34] <asac> not sure if i like that
[13:34] <[reed]> haha
[13:36] <[reed]> heh, "Working with upstream on Mozilla bugs (especially crashers)"
[13:36] <[reed]> on Tuesday
[13:37] <asac> [reed]: yeah. thats the idea
[13:37] <asac> we have to do something about that
[13:37] <asac> imo its not really going well as it is
[13:38] <[reed]> I agree ;)
[13:39] <asac> suggestions welcome ;)
[13:40] <asac> but i think we can at least something going. afaiu we will send crashers to breakpad ... not sure how to better deal with feature bugs and regression forwarding
[13:40] <[reed]> I wonder when gandalf gets here
[13:40] <asac> good question. isn't he from here?
[13:40] <[reed]> no, he's from Poland, afaik
[13:41] <[reed]> since he's an aviary.pl guy
[13:41] <[reed]> aviary.pl
[13:41] <[reed]> oh, I spelled it right the first time
[13:43] <[reed]> http://209.85.171.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http://www.aviary.pl/o-nas/sklad/
[13:43] <[reed]> they have a large team :)
[13:46] <[reed]> fta: on moznet, this is asac:
[13:46] <[reed]> * [asac] (asac@moz-5FF6156E.adsl.alicedsl.de): Alexander Sack
[13:46] <[reed]> see the cloaked moz-* part?
[13:47] <fta> yep, but that's not a cloak. i don't want to expose my company name at all
[13:47] <fta> nor do i want people to see from where i'm joining
[13:48] <fta> here, i authenticate then i get cloaked before i join
[13:48] <[reed]> it's still a cloak in the sense that people can't see your full hostname
[13:48] <[reed]> to protect you from being DDoS'd
[13:50] <asac> fta: can't you log in at home from company and use screen?
[13:52] <fta> i use xchat
[13:54] <[reed]> use a bouncer
[13:54] <[reed]> (irc proxy)
[13:54] <[reed]> that keeps you connected
[13:56] <asac> irssi supports that too
[13:59] <asac> launchpad doesn't allow to push me anymore :(
[14:02] <fta> it's jsut slow
[14:07] <asac> fta: [reed]: did you have lunch yet?
[14:07] <[reed]> nope
[14:07] <[reed]> let me go get ready at least
[14:07] <[reed]> bbiab
[14:07] <asac> [reed]: still in bed?
[14:08] <[reed]> I'm out of bed, but not much more than that ;)
[14:08] <[reed]> This is my lazy day, considering we're going to go non-stop the rest of the week.
[14:09] <asac> wonder if i want to do lunch now
[14:10] <asac> so anyone would want to join in 30 minutes?
[14:11] <[reed]> 30 min. sure
[14:12] <fta> ok
[14:13] <fta> 15:40 ?
[14:13] <fta> (that late, i'm not sure we'll find anything)
[14:15] <asac> we will :)
[14:18] <asac> ok pushed something to ffox .head ... haven't tested. if its build i think it should be ok to go with that one to intrepid. feel free to close chlog
[14:18] <asac> fta: ^^
[14:18] <asac> do we need to update libnss and stuff like that?
[14:18] <asac> and more importantly do we need to update that with tight versioned depends or is it enough to just update it
[14:19] <asac> (i hope the latter
[14:19] <asac> )
[14:20] <asac> ok ... off for smoke ... cu at 15:40
[14:40] <[reed]> heading down now
[14:40] <fta> me too
[15:20] <saivann> asac : ping
[15:26] <rzr> guys, i am leaving this channel for a while ...
[15:27] <rzr> but I'll be back as soon as I am over w/ Xorg bugs ...
[18:05] <fta> [reed], firefox-4.0_3.1~a1~hg15137~20080516+nobinonly.orig.tar.gz  grrrr
[18:06] <fta> [reed], my project name now looks stupid
[18:06] <[reed]> lol
[18:07] <fta> and I don't want to do 1:3.1~a1
[18:09] <[reed]> why not firefox-3.1~a1 ?
[18:14] <asac> fta: i think we could keep the firefox-4 package name for the time when it really comes out ... so for now use firefox-3.1 ?
[18:15] <fta> project name has to be different from the current firefox-3.0, so i decided to go for firefox-4.0. Then i attach the version, hence 4.0~a1, now going backward to 3.1~a1
[18:15] <fta> (i typed that before)
[18:18] <asac> fta: yeah ... but current trunk in hg is going for 3.1
[18:19] <asac> isn't it?
[18:20] <fta> yep, used to be 4.0, now 3.1 since 2 days ago
[18:25] <asac> fta: yes, i think its ok to use firefox-3.1 as package name then and leave the 4.0 for package name for the time after that
[18:25] <asac> do you have the url you just showed me?
[18:26] <fta> http://eloise.cocolog-nifty.com/rodoku/2008/05/caress_by_motoj.html
[18:27] <asac> hmm
[18:27] <asac> (**) intel(0): Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
[18:27] <asac> (II) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) 965GM
[18:27] <asac> (--) intel(0): Chipset: "965GM"
[18:28] <asac> dont see it with that
[18:30] <asac> thats on 3.0b5 still though
[18:30] <fta> could be pango
[18:30] <asac> fta: you have a non-hardy pango?
[18:31] <fta> no
[18:31] <asac> fta: you have the same chipset?
[18:31] <fta> strange, view source looks fine
[18:31] <asac> same for 3.0b5?
[18:32] <fta> hm, it's a zoom issue
[18:33] <asac> let me try
[18:33] <fta> reset zoom => broken, zoom in => ok
[18:35] <asac> hmm ... still ok
[18:39] <asac> fta: just wondered whether you actually created the ffox 4 branch based on our ffox 3 branch ... can we still do that?
[18:39] <asac> (in case you didnt)
[18:39] <fta> i've tried with today's upstream build of minefield, broken
[18:39] <asac> hmmm ... librarian is down :(
[18:40] <asac> ok ... then report it upstream i guess ... maybe we should try if using XAA changes a thing.
[18:40] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13084/
[18:40] <asac> must be either a regression over beta 5 or driver/chipset related
[18:41] <asac> ok good
[18:41] <asac> same for xul i guess
[18:41] <fta> yes
[18:41] <asac> damn librarian :(
[18:41] <asac> ah finally it downloads
[18:41] <fta> you have all the people around :)
[18:42] <asac> lo
[18:42] <asac> l
[18:43] <asac> at least once it started it came down at full speed ;)
[18:47] <asac> ok ... i think .head is ready to be merged to .dev ... and then bake the intrepid upload from there
[19:04] <fta> ok
[19:04] <fta> oh, nss/nspr
[19:04] <asac> yeah ... what about that?
[19:04] <asac> do we need tight dependencies ... or just update it?
[19:05] <asac> e.g. would it hurt if users temporarily run latest xul/ffox with the current nss/nspr
[19:05] <asac> ?
[19:05] <asac> i guess for nspr it wont hurt
[19:06] <fta> い’m
[19:06] <fta> gっっr
[19:06] <asac> i cant parse that :-P
[19:19] <asac> jtv: there? ... i uploaded RC1 en-US.xpi to xulrunner-1.9
[19:19] <asac> can you approve and maybe upload the translations right away?
[19:20] <asac> http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0rc1/linux-i686/xpi/
[19:20] <asac> thats where the translations xpis are
[19:20] <asac> jtv: ^^
[19:38] <[reed]> #ubuntu-devel-summit