[00:00] FYI: I am temporarily taking Floodbot 2 offline until LjL provides me with a new SSH key [00:00] :O [00:01] His key's vulnerable. It leaves my server open, and I don't have time to do a code audit for it [00:01] fair enough [00:02] Ill happily open it up to him once I've got a new key sent to me though [00:02] why does that involve taking floodbot offline? [00:04] because, his key may not be restricted on FloodBot1's server, which would mean that a user could access that, change floodbot1's code, which propogates that code to my server. [00:04] ah [00:04] They propogate their code throuh magic. If one's code changes, all do. i dont know the state of the others. [00:50] I was curious when the redirect ban to ubuntu-ops was used, and what plugin provided the !ops on ubottu [00:51] glguy were you forwarded here? [00:51] no [00:53] I'm an op in a couple other channels and I'm just reading logs and checkout out how different channels are run [00:53] checking-out* [00:54] (is this the wrong place to ask policy questions?) [00:58] glguy Probably, I am kinda busy elsewhere [00:59] ok, I'll come back later [00:59] thanks [02:33] Hello [02:33] is any one not afk [02:35] Hello [02:38] flip2405: How can we help you [02:38] Okay jack-sparrow banned me from the #ubuntu channel because of personal arguement is he allowed to do that i mean i help out in channel and every thing [02:39] what do you mean by a personal argument [02:39] @btlogin [02:39] Me and him had a personal argument [02:39] Brb [02:39] I gtg ill be back in a little bit we starting movie again [02:40] what was your nickname at the time [03:20] Same as it is now [03:20] But it was mostly over pm [03:22] and the secound time i sent the message to him before he banned me i didnt even mean to send again i hit the upbutton and enter meaning to send an invite to a user i was trying to help to my channel because i dont like helping in the main channel because of all the spam [03:23] seeker` you ther [03:23] yes [03:23] eOkay [03:23] please look into that [03:25] From what I can see in the channel, you were repeating the question again and again, and when you were told it wouldn't help, you changed to repeating "sitting here wont help" over and over again [03:25] Because i need help with resolution my friend [03:26] No i only did it once the secound time i said that i didnt mean to as i said i was trying to invite another user and i didnt read my message before i hit enter [03:26] Well, I'm not psychic, so I dont know what happened in PM [03:26] Well yeah [03:27] But if your actions in the channel are representative of what you said in PM, the ban was probably deserved [03:27] No [03:27] the ban was set before the pm started [03:28] So he didn't ban you because of a personal argument [03:28] Well no i guess for repeating my self [03:28] about the secound message [03:28] he banned you because you were repeating a message over and over, and then when told it wouldn't do you any good, you repeatedly highlighted that person with another useless message [03:29] Dude as i said i only ment to send the message once [03:30] I can't unban you, and it is policy that the person that sets the ban is the one that removes it [03:30] bah im not explaining my self any more ill go get a proxy change my indent and nick and come back ..... i guess ill cya later [03:30] Do you understand why you were banned? [03:30] Yup [03:30] i do [03:31] because they guy is a fucking retard [03:31] !ops [03:31] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jdavies, bazhang or jussi01! [03:31] Seeker` called the ops in #ubuntu-ops () [03:31] You have a few minutes to think about your language, then you can try again. [03:32] :/ [03:32] how long until he is back in #u with another nick do you reckon? [03:32] oh, and thanks for that tonyyarusso [03:33] no idea - haven't been watching long enough to know the pattern. and yw. [03:34] tonyyarusso: he is back [03:34] current nick is "blag" [03:35] Seeker`: I just got home, so could you fill me in a little? (also, how are you associating the nicks?) [03:36] he came in complaining about a ban by jack_sparrow in #ubuntu [03:36] he was repeatedly asking the same question every minute or so [03:36] jack_sparrow told him that it wasn't going to help him repeating his quiestion like that [03:37] so he sent the message back along the lines of "sitting here wont help" [03:37] and then he sent it again and jack_sparrow banned him [03:37] okay, caught up on that half. [03:37] the second question? [03:37] one sec [03:37] -03:34:40- ~s~ flip2405 > (n=flip@121.184.107.206) has joined #ubuntu [03:37] -03:34:49- ~s~ flip2405 is now known as ee [03:38] -03:35:03- ~s~ ee is now known as blag [03:38] gotcha [03:38] gone [03:39] cool [03:39] GG now i gotta get a new one ass hole [03:39] !ohmy | blag [03:39] blag: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [03:39] same as before. [03:39] !coc | blag [03:39] blag: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ [03:39] !guidelines | blag [03:39] blag: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [03:39] Please read those [03:40] well, I didn't feel he deserved a ban, but now that he is ban evading, oh well, he can stay banned [03:40] and talking like a child [03:40] nixternal: I probably agree with you [03:40] agreed with both points nixternal [03:40] hehe [03:40] man, that was a lot of scrolling up just to see what happened in #ubuntu [03:41] bantracker ftw :P [03:41] bantracker didn't have it all though [03:41] it only had a couple of repeats, there were actually quite a few repeats going back over some time [03:43] Yey [03:43] unbanned [03:43] again [03:44] evening guys and gals :) [03:44] howdy vorian [03:44] blag: do you understand why you are being banned? [03:45] I do know better the problem is i really need help and you guys just makeing me madder so i spam more and it dont madder because i can find enough proxys to fill your guys ban list to make the channels malfunction trust me its been tested [03:45] and yes [03:45] blag: honestly, if you would have chilled, I would have removed the ban no matter the policy, cuz I thought it was harsh at first, now I wouldn't even consider it [03:45] i understand [03:45] that wont help you get support though [03:46] Neather will sitting there while other people are joining might beable to help [03:46] i mean its not like i continusly spammed it [03:46] i waited untill it came off the screen [03:46] then said it again [03:46] That is no longer the issue. [03:46] The issue is ban evasion. [03:46] blag: you spammed it a bit, but not enough imho to ban you...but your ban evading and childish behavior will make the bans stick [03:46] Yeah [03:46] I count 9 times in 7 minutes [03:47] Idc if they stick they are all proxies i dont use my real ip to connect to any network but my own [03:48] ban evasion will just get you in more trouble [03:48] and i wouldnt be ban evadeing if i had a reason to be banned in the first place :) [03:48] How ever it will get me support i need now not in a week [03:48] it would probably be better for you to go away and calm down for 24 or 48 hours, and then come back and talk to us [03:48] Exactly no [03:49] i have people comeing over to watch movies in an hour [03:49] not in 48 hours [03:49] I need to fix my resolution not wait 48 hours and tell them to come back because most of use work on week days [03:49] cna you not see how your attitude was inappropriate? and that if you had waited for a few minutes, someone would have probably unbanned you [03:50] You should have thought of that before violating channel and network policies. [03:50] you can't guarantee that someone will be able to help you within the next hour either [03:50] Well thats not what was said to me what was said to me was your not getting unbanned [03:51] No, what was said was that Seeker` could not do it. [03:51] LOl im /ignoreing you tony your going to make me say some stuff that i dont really want to say with your policys and junk [03:51] In 99% of the cases I have seen, ops in #ubuntu have refused to remove bans that they didn't set themselves [03:51] I am the 1% of course :) [03:51] Lol seeker the dude is off line [03:51] That's fine. You will follow them, whether you want to or not, so it's your choice whether to listen to advice and clarification about doing so. [03:52] nixternal: sods law :P [03:52] tony no i will just find more proxys [03:52] ya, I don't listen to anyone, I just do it..unless it is Hobbsee's ban, I fear the stick! [03:52] i got a nice little program that generates thousands of them [03:52] !staff | blag [03:52] blag: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw or Gary I could use a bit of your time :) [03:53] tonyyarusso? [03:53] Instead i figured i would wait an hour or two and be responsiable and come talk to you guys but i obvusly now see that it was a waste of my time [03:54] vorian: proxy connection for ban evasion is a network violation, and preferably would be dealt with there. [04:04] blag: is there anything else we can do for you? [04:06] Umm not really but dont ban me ill tell you when me and him gets done talking [04:06] "me and him"? [04:07] * vorian waves [04:07] ah, cool [04:07] * Seeker` leaves you to it [04:10] well that didnt last long off to put on another proxy [04:13] * blag waiting on this slow ass generating list [04:13] why generate a list when there are plenty of proxies out there [04:14] why connect to a proxy when you could resolve the dispute amicably [04:14] :( [04:14] Because i am garenteed all of them will work it takes so long to generate because it checks them and if they dont work then it dont add them to my list [04:15] vorian: Apokalipz is spamming every channel [04:20] Okay [04:20] fine [04:20] well do it this way [04:20] what way would that be? [04:21] unban me or i send 3 or 4 different bot attacks [04:21] vorian: tonyyarusso ^ [04:21] Dem0n: We don't accept blackmail. [04:21] Lol not blackmail [04:21] not threat [04:21] promis [04:21] +r [04:21] Nope. Blackmail. [04:22] complaments of ethical exploiting [04:22] Also, childish. [04:22] I dont give a fuck what it is [04:24] tonyyarusso: is he the same Dem0n from a while back? I remember that name spelled exactly the same [04:25] nixternal: Are you thinking of the Dutch one? Doubt it. [04:25] ahh, ya that is what I was thinking of [04:25] knew it looked familiar [04:25] that usually had Killer in front too. [04:26] "22:23:56 okay so be it be ready for them in an hour or two" meh. [04:28] PriceChild: yes. [04:28] !hobbsee [04:28] I phear the stick so shhhhh [04:28] heya! [04:28] wasabi homeskillet?!?! [04:29] gah. More frying of real estate. Ears bleeding. [04:29] huh? [04:30] I'm mocking the nixternal vernacular, obviously. [04:30] hehe [04:31] I have been saying homeskillet since around 1980...I thought I made it up but it is in the urban dictionary [04:31] * tonyyarusso steps out for a shower, decides not to bring the lappy - something about the electrons and the dissolved electrolytes and something bad. [04:31] * Hobbsee cooks nixternal on a skillet. [04:31] dinner, people! [04:31] tonyyarusso: wimp :P [04:32] * Seeker` wonders if 4:30 am is a suitable time for bed [04:32] nevah! [04:32] Seeker`: not really much point - may as well stay up. [04:32] I have revision to do, so I need to be slightly rested [04:32] I haven't been to bed before 3 in weeks :/ [04:33] what is revision? I have heard someone else say "I have revision to do" [04:33] I always think, damn, that must be a lot of SVN commits :) [04:34] __mikem called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (JDSBlueDevl) [04:35] I'm a final year computer science student [04:35] I have 3 more exams, and then I (hopefully) graduate [04:36] ahhhh, that's what it means [04:37] yeah [04:37] it means that I have to cram as much info into my brain in the next 2 weeks as is possible [04:37] hehe, I just finished my final exams [04:37] woohoo [04:38] you suck :P [04:38] My first is on the 23rd [04:38] * Hobbsee still has another 1.5 years :( [04:39] I have as long as it takes I guess [04:39] though I am planning on taking another break from school and going back to work [04:39] hopefully Monday I will find out if I have a new job or not [04:39] Hopefully, in 5 weeks time, I will have a degree [04:39] and then I need to find a job [04:39] if so, I may disappear for a bit [04:40] :O [04:40] ya, I will be doing a bit of travel possibly, plus the work will all be free software development, just not debian/buntu based [04:41] cool [04:41] whereabuts in the world are you? [04:41] seems the 2 main systems I will be doing appliance development and packaging for will be CentOS and Foresight/rPath [04:41] land of the free and home of the brave :) [04:41] Chicago [04:41] oh. I was close. [04:41] heh, we went to a fest today and there were some American Indians there with some whicked shirts that had me rofl'ing [04:42] they had a homeland security shirt that had like an Indian lynch mod [04:42] one said "Fighting terrorism since 1492" [04:42] lol [04:42] they were all quotes against the government...I should have bought a few of them [04:43] heh [04:43] heh, "The US government made a lot of promises and only kept one, they took our land" [04:43] anyone care to take a look at misngh in #ubuntu [04:50] 23:55:41 < ~awag> DJ_Cranky: and i can't change resolution above 800x600 [04:50] that'd be him again [04:50] Dont think it is the same issue [04:51] aye, you are correct [04:51] * vorian nees teh sleep [04:52] Im going to bed at 5 [04:52] nah, don't think that is him...tis the reason I asked about dual monitors :p [04:52] * nixternal too [04:52] g'nite! [04:52] * glguy takes credit for misngh calming down [04:53] you shouldn't see flip/blag/dem0n again tonight [04:53] vorian: oh? any particular reason? [04:54] yep, he's got other things to take care of [04:54] so his ban is for how long again? [04:54] Wasn't decided on afaik [04:55] okie dokie [04:55] ok, now /me sleeps [05:09] Flannel called the ops in #ubuntu (deuryte) [05:14] anyway, I don't envy you guys! Keep up the hard work [05:27] nixternal: waaaait - you're supposed to take a break from school to work? Well that explains it... [05:50] (^^same guy, btw) [06:52] moin [07:17] jscinoz called the ops in #ubuntu (w4r1a0k) [07:20] oh noes [07:22] false alarm [07:28] In #kubuntu, Toejam said: !dock is http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/the-best-and-worst-docks-for-ubuntu/ [07:33] Ziroday, hi, may we help you? [07:34] bazhang: nope sorry, just idling [07:35] Ziroday, in what capacity? [07:35] damn pidgin keeps doing strange things to my irc [07:35] time to go back to xchat [07:57] you fail to realize how good the floodbots are until they are not there [08:00] where are the floodbots? [08:01] they are there, but on outside flood protection duty [08:01] so the long pastebins are very slow to be stopped [08:02] ahhh [08:02] only 15 or so lines and they kick in :) [08:20] [10:19] <+Myrtti> status [08:20] [10:19] <+FloodBot3> On wolfe.freenode.net watching #ubuntu - 1244 users - limit 1270 not enforced - emergency mode - 0 split users - servers/splits: 20 [08:20] [10:19] <+FloodBot1> On simmons.freenode.net watching #ubuntu - 1244 users - limit 1270 not enforced - emergency mode - 0 split users - servers/splits: 20 === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia [09:25] emergency mode; that doesnt sound good [09:38] bazhang: it just means that one's missing [09:38] jdavies, thanks :) [09:51] floodbots back on the job :) === mc44_ is now known as mc44 [12:09] kah showed up in -devel, btw. [12:10] Hobbsee: we (jussi and I) were watching [12:11] nice championing of the way closed source software is apparently better than open source software, because bugs don't get found and publicised in them. [12:11] * jdavies has no powers there [12:11] not that i'd expect any difference, given his versions on gpl, though [12:11] er, opinions on it [12:11] jdavies: ahh. should find you some [12:12] * Hobbsee doesn't have sufficient power [12:13] who's thom? [12:13] an old guy [12:15] to be fair. thom is not that old, is he? [12:15] probably not [12:15] i meant old in terms of ubuntu development. [12:16] or old in terms of involvement in ubuntu [12:16] previous employee of Canonical and was in when the project started. [12:21] PriceChild: any luck on those cloaks? i've not had any response to my mail so far. has freenode permanently gone on holiday, or something? [12:55] Hobbsee: what cloaks [12:55] Gary: see staff@freenode.net [12:55] Gary: UDS cloaks [12:56] i'll chase up with the staff who have access to that [12:58] cool, thanks [13:00] Hobbsee: which cloaks? [13:01] jdavies: nat cloaks for the people in cz, at UDS. [13:01] so they're not all appearing from one IP, and get klined by accident. [13:01] (which, iirc, happened in paris) [13:01] ah, right [13:02] Hobbsee: do you know what IP's they will be/are using? [13:02] Gary: /whois Keybuk [13:03] all on one ip? (ie there are no others) [13:07] Hobbsee: emailing ilines@ might be better (if an iline is what you really need, which it sounds like it is (an Iline enables more connections from one ip)) [13:07] Gary: afaik, yes. [13:08] Gary: i used staff@ previously. they don't seem to be having trouble with conneciton limitations yet [13:08] are you there? [13:08] no [13:09] sounds like it is gonna be fun though, popey and daviey are there from -uk [13:09] Gary: yeah, likely.... [13:10] Gary: hopefully most of hte irc people will be there virtually if they want to do stuff about changing ircland. [13:10] nothing like getting a couple of loco ops to change a channel 10+ times their size, iirc. [13:11] Hobbsee: can you pass that staff@ email to ilines@ please [13:12] Gary: forwarded. [13:12] cheers [13:13] oh dear. bandwidth quota limitation. [13:13] eek [13:14] 80% [13:14] * Hobbsee should stop seeding [13:14] i should be at about the same mark [13:14] bandwidth limits suck [13:14] i'll let you know if i manage to find my way to network information sometime this century [13:14] Gary, this is on our linodes [13:15] our actual internets are even lamer [13:15] Gary: it's still got another 40gb left. [13:16] elkbuntu: should move somewhere more modern (like finland - I hear they have good interwebs) [13:16] don't come to the uk, it smells here [13:16] does it? [13:16] In ubottu, arashOio said: This is an autoreply: Please leave your message, and I will get back to you as soon as possible. [13:16] In ubottu, arashOio said: This is an autoreply: Please leave your message, and I will get back to you as soon as possible. [13:16] In ubottu, arashOio said: This is an autoreply: Please leave your message, and I will get back to you as soon as possible. [13:16] Gary, know a 'how to learn finnish in a week' guide? [13:16] In ubottu, arashOio said: This is an autoreply: Please leave your message, and I will get back to you as soon as possible. [13:16] yay. [13:16] In ubottu, arashOio said: This is an autoreply: Please leave your message, and I will get back to you as soon as possible. [13:17] oh fun [13:29] * jussi01 hands elkbuntu his copy of Hyvin Menee [13:30] which is what? [13:30] Basic finnish text book :) [13:31] * Hobbsee hands out the popcorn [13:31] ooh, popcorn for where? [13:31] but yes, Gary is right - the interwebs are good here :) [13:32] 5/3 is free with my rent, and 10¤ monthly getsme 10/10 [13:32] elkbuntu: #linode. [13:32] elkbuntu: did you see http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=974 btw? same guy. [13:33] (and is not ubuntu related, so the CoC doesn't apply in there) [13:53] besides, one can get by in the big cities quite well with English, I'd imagine [13:53] welcome, toss your cv's to me before you leave for airport [13:58] that was meant to say please do not spam our users via PM [13:58] what who where [14:19] Hobbsee: I haven't had anything to do with it, will poke for you. [14:20] generally PM's are legit [14:29] Hobbsee: still around? [14:29] PriceChild: yes [14:33] Hobbsee: In future, you should use ilines@ to request these things, and a lot more notice. [14:33] Hobbsee: I've gotten the relevant people poked, so hopefully it can be done before UDS tomorrow. [14:34] PriceChild: well, it's not even my job. IS said they'd do it, but they didn't. [14:34] PriceChild: but thanks. [14:36] !staff | [16:37:35] -ééééKKKLééééééé SââââNââââ öZéééLLL Show YÂââPCââM 20 k00ntörrr éé ßegenmezsen yoLLââMââ zeynep_lolit@ [14:36] !staff [14:36] Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw or Gary I could use a bit of your time :) [14:37] Hobbsee: IS? canonical people? [14:37] jussi01: already gone, but thanks :) [14:38] tomaw: :) [14:38] tomaw: that was quick :) [14:39] PriceChild: yeah. [14:39] ah well, life goes on [14:49] I find the discussion I'm having at -women mildly disturbing [14:51] ok [14:51] now it's plain idiotic [15:29] * Gary giggles - http://www.flickr.com/photos/71478182@N00/485048576/in/photostream/ [15:32] the crowd demands a picture of ompaul [15:33] elkbuntu: ^^^ [15:33] Myrtti: here you go O [15:33] * Gary hides [15:34] awesoome :) [15:34] Gary: whutwhere [15:36] Myrtti: the capital letter O is supposed to look like him :p [15:36] Gary: pft. [15:41] Hobbsee: the IS team also broke my @ubuntu email - how annoying... [15:43] @whoami [15:43] bazhang: bazhang [15:43] !bazhang is foo [15:43] I'll remember that, bazhang [15:44] !no bazhang is a sticky rice dumpling [15:44] I'll remember that bazhang [15:44] !bazhang [15:44] bazhang is a sticky rice dumpling [15:44] awww [15:44] I never knew [15:44] :) [15:46] I noticed last night that the ! ops call still has Seveas in it [15:47] Seeker`: it still knows its daddy [15:48] jdavies: she [15:48] not it [15:48] :-> [15:55] I fail at programming ubottu [15:55] Gary: ? [15:55] !gary [15:55] Factoid gary not found [15:55] see [15:55] !gary is foo [15:55] But gary already means something else! [15:55] @login [15:55] Myrtti: The operation succeeded. [15:55] !gary [15:55] !no gary is foo [15:56] I know nothing about gary yet, Myrtti [15:56] /me taps her fingers [15:56]