[00:08] Hi, due to the instability of Hardy on my low low end test machine I've downgraded to Gutsy, and I stumbled upon this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12824/ [00:08] is this a definite bug? [00:17] btw the CPU in both cases doesn't support throttling [00:39] martyn: hmm, are you implying that sound is not audible through speakers? [00:39] Yep - that is correct. [00:39] Works fine through headphones. [00:39] please download and run the alsa-info.sh script. [00:40] (linked from both https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems and my LP profile) [00:49] martyn: just ping me if you need further assistance. [00:53] crimsum http://pastebin.ca/1021413 - not sure how to ping you so if you are still about here is the pastebin link (it was on a box that was switched off - I needed to put it on, install ssh, vsftp and then copy the alsa-info.sh across. [00:54] I'm here, just scrambling across different workstations [00:57] OK - sorry for not been able to ping you - not sure how to do that. Only just started using the IRC resource! [00:57] that's ok, it's just: crimsun: ping [00:59] crimsun: ping - ok - I'll know for next time. [00:59] great [01:01] hmm [01:01] it looks like that paste was cut off at line 279 [01:03] martyn: please rerun the script using --debug [01:07] crimsun:ping http://pastebin.ca/1021421 Here is the re-run script report [01:07] ok, sec. [01:08] Looks like same thing? [01:08] huh, well. Yes. [01:08] are you sticking with gutsy for any particular reason? [01:09] Not at all... it is an older system but just haven't got around to uploading it. I have Hardy on other systems and will happily dist-upgrade... [01:09] .. sorry .. upgrading it... [01:10] ok, because a newer ALSA driver should resolve that. [01:11] alright - will be a long process because it isn't the fastest system about (Acer Travelmate 2200). Thanks for advice. Will feedback if you are still about/awake when it is done. [01:11] I'm EDT (-0400 GMT/UTC) [01:12] Oh - Ok... makes sense. It is 1:12am here! (UK). [01:33] hi! would anyone be so kind and help me with my internet navigator keyboard under xfce? [01:34] i really did try pretty much anything i know and the special keys just wont work [01:42] xubuntu rocks [01:42] I mean really- It is the best lean disto on the market. [01:43] PIII 600 MHZ, with 256, or 512 is just perfect for this distro, and Its like having a new machine with Vista once you add the right theme, and codacs [03:03] guys, how do i install open office on xubuntu from terminal? [03:04] in the documentation it says it should already be installed, but it wasn't on this machine. [03:05] nubuntu_, wait a sec im serching to see what pakage you have to install [03:06] litlebuda, thanx. [03:06] nubuntu_, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org [03:06] litlebuda: i couldn't get it in add/remove nor from synaptic. [03:07] k, lemmie try, thx [03:07] nubuntu_, it shoul be in synaptic [03:07] thats how i saw [03:07] the package name [03:08] thats what i thought... there were 'parts' of open office there, but i din't see the selection for whole suite. [03:08] its all there [03:08] if you select this one it will automagically select all the others :) [03:09] litlebuda: look what i get in terminal: Package openoffice.org is not available, but is referred to by another package. [03:09] This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or [03:09] is only available from another source [03:09] E: Package openoffice.org has no installation candidate [03:09] nubuntu@nubuntu-desktop:~$ [03:09] use synaptic [03:10] but what package name? [03:10] and seach for openoffice [03:11] its openoffice.org [03:11] i think :) [03:14] litlebuda: i get a list that starts with openclipart-openoffice.org, and several individual openoffice package components (none the principal ones like presentation, office, spreadsheet, etc...) could something be amiss in my software sourcelist? [03:15] wait a sec [03:16] just below openclipart-openoffice.org is openoffice.org [03:16] at least here it is [03:23] nubuntu_, got it ? [03:24] no, i checked my software sources and ubuntu archive was not checked (don't know how that happened). i reloaded it, and now the terminal is loading openoffice. thanks for your help. bbl, gotta go pick someone up (cab driver) [03:24] ok [03:24] no problem === thomas__ is now known as The-Kernel === b_ is now known as biabia [04:08] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=704453 [04:08] I would like to know why? [04:37] Bug #181703 [04:37] Launchpad bug 181703 in brasero "Brasero does not recognize audio CD or blank CD-R" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181703 [05:43] can someone please refresh my memory on how to set up menu to completely delete files rather than moving them to trash? [05:54] also, how do i get a sound volume control up into my panel? [05:58] knock, knock [06:16] can someone please refresh my memory on how to set up menu to completely delete files rather than moving them to trash? [06:16] also, how do i get a sound volume control up into my panel? [06:17] sil vouz play [06:17] por favor, please [06:17] hi nubuntu, for the sound volume control, right-click panel > add item .. [06:19] drash, a window came up axing me for a device, what does xubuntu want here? [06:19] wait, i tink it just wanted 'default' [06:19] probably your sound card device [06:20] that should work if you got only one sound card yes [06:20] gdluck [06:21] drash, ok, think i got it. i just installed the suite of utilities that come bundled with 'disk usage analyser' but none showed up in menu, any clue why not? [06:21] no sorry, unfamiliar with those utilities [06:22] items not showing up in the menu though can be fixed by analysing the appropriate .desktop file(s) that package installed .. [06:23] k, thanks [06:23] .. and adjusting the line that starts with "Categories" to something xubuntu understands [06:23] no prob [06:24] check how some of your working menu items describe themselves, they're in /usr/share/applications [06:26] maybe over my head [06:26] nah, take it slow, it's only text files [06:29] if you paste the content of the .desktop file to paste.ubuntu.com I'll be glad to have a look [09:29] Hey, Xubuntu! :D I was wondering if there was any way to keep Xubuntu's (Xfce's?) default screensaver from seeing the computer as idle when a gamepad is being used as input. Anyone know? [09:30] A lot of Googling has come up empty. Seems like I'm one of few people having this problem. [10:18] howdy all! === harry_ is now known as TheJudasPriest [10:19] hm.. how long does it normally take to install xubuntu on a ten-year-old system? [10:22] as long as it takes to get a reply around here it seems [10:31] TheJudasPriest: depends on the memory you have mostly [10:31] 128MB i believe [10:32] TheJudasPriest: should be about an hour or so - depends on if it gets hung accessing the net... [10:32] hah! the machine im putting it on isnt networked yet so.. [10:35] TheJudasPriest: well - less than an hour I would think [10:35] cheers RDTDR [10:39] :) === rollingdownthedr is now known as rolldownthedrive [11:29] well got it up and runnning [11:30] everything seems great except.. it wont play any audio CD [11:31] did you install any additional packages Priest ? [11:31] no sir. only the base installation [11:31] (used the alternate CD) [11:32] you might want to do that first, i'll check my bookmarks for a nice overview , brb [11:32] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu [11:33] has lots of good stuff for audio and video [11:34] cheers mate. the only thing stopping me, really is that the machine isnt hooked up to the net [11:34] ow that's for another day the i suppose, yw [11:35] yes sir [11:35] could it be that you have to "unmute" the speakers ? also a common thing we tend to forget .. [11:35] uh let me go check [11:36] happens all the time, gdluck [11:37] well this is embarassing... [11:37] let us now how it went, we'll whistle some tunes if it doesn't work [11:37] how the heck do i unmute it?! theres no audio controller like there is in GNOME [11:38] you can add one to the xfce panel on top [11:38] well im in the settings manager and in the sounds menu [11:38] right-click and go for the 'add item' option [11:39] but it only gives me a drop down with the options of 'default' and an amalgam or letters and numbers which is probably my audio setup [11:39] brb [11:39] yes that sounds like what you're after [11:39] ok [11:41] hello. i have a problem on Hardy that wasn't on 7.10: i have no subtitles. not in vlc and not in Totem. although dragging the subtitle file onto a played movie on vlc shows subtitles, but then the movie can't be paused/controlled. please help! [11:42] well.. it seems that attempting to drag volume control to the panel only adds a tiny space [11:43] after adding it to the panel you can right click again but now look for properties [11:44] Hi Ben_Cs, checked Totem's preferences for subs ? [11:45] drash: yes. naming the subtitle the same works for totem, but doesn't help VLC [11:46] in vlc the settings are burried somewhere deep (check the 'show advanced options' in right bottom corner) [11:46] it works, question of going through all those options, vlc has loads [11:47] drash: auto load subtitles is marked [11:47] in vlc ? [11:47] drash: yes [11:47] i'll check my settings, brb [11:48] grr [11:48] no go Priest ? [11:49] the volume control just refuses to show up [11:49] ah yes, it works if you open the 'add item' stuff again, but instead of hitting 'add' you drag it onto the panel [11:50] yes ive been dragging it [11:50] well that's the end of my help-desk-rope i'm afraid :) [11:50] subtitles auto detection paths: ./Subtitles, ./subtitles is it ok? [11:51] Ben_Cs: yes, simplest thing is to make sure the movie and sub is in the same folder anyway [11:51] thanks anyway, drash! [11:52] you're welcome [11:52] Ben_Cs: did you activate any of those overlays and made sure they can see a font for drawing the subtitles on screen ? [11:53] mine uses freetype2 renderer and a bit further down this has a separate entree where i gave it a path to a nice screen font [11:56] drash: i have Default [11:57] oh never mind i gotta go [11:57] thanks anyway [11:57] ok bye [11:57] no prob [11:57] seems to have another problem.. wont mount the cd rom drive [11:58] did you try to mount it 'manually' from a console ? [11:58] nope, only trying through the GUI [11:59] in Thunar ? the volume management or what is it called again ? [11:59] i added a device mounter to the top panel and have been clicking on it through there [12:00] yes that's a rather confusing panel app, could never use it myself [12:00] oh well, ill stop trying with it then [12:00] open Thunar and check the prefs there, it's easy [12:01] trying now [12:01] only takes a second, look for the advanced tab on the right, below is a link to the volume management enabler [12:07] well its all enabled [12:08] that's a start, i just thought of something i had to do after upgrading gutsy to hardy [12:08] the new pulseaudio system .. [12:08] do you have the pulseaudio daemon running ? [12:09] system monitor shows that kind of info btw [12:09] no clue. this is the first thing ive tried to do (apart from changing the themes to human) [12:09] ill go check [12:10] only a dbus daemon running [12:10] got xubuntu 8.04 amd64 + opera 9.5 beta 2 amd 64, can i get/use java? [12:10] no pulseaudio [12:10] you can launch one via a console, key in "pulseaudio -D" [12:11] without quotations [12:11] yes indeed, forgot to add that [12:11] kay [12:13] hmm [12:13] well i keyed it in and told me it wasnt installed so i keyed in the command to install it and im guessing i need to be networked to do so [12:14] could be, i upgraded the lot from a gutsy xubuntu, thought pulse came standard on hardy .. [12:15] oh no... [12:15] when i was burning the image in Ubi it had an error right at the end of burning [12:15] could this be what was missing?! [12:15] could very well be [12:15] yarrr! [12:16] so in simple terms i have to wait until im networked till i can get audio up and running? [12:16] you can always try to put the cd back in and instead of installing ther's an option at the first screen to test the crc on the iso and burn stuff you did .. [12:17] yes i tested the integrity of the disc before i installed and it said everything was 100% Okay [12:18] confusing .. without connection there isn't much i can think off i'm afraid [12:19] i should have a wireless network card before the end of the week so its no big drama [12:19] pretty sure though PulseAudio is on xubuntu 8.04, that's the one you're using ? [12:19] yes sir. alternate Cd installation (if it makes any difference) [12:20] no none that i know off, but then again, i'm only dabbling in xubuntu myself with trial and loads of error [12:21] not like im a linux noob myself either (been onboard since Fedoa Core 3) but this is my first shot with XFCE [12:23] yes it's those tiny little differences that make it hard at first, at least you seem to have the xorg.conf etcetera covered, took me a week to get compiz going grrr [12:23] every distro has its own form of initiation [12:24] spoken as a true Priest haha [12:25] have you tried the #ubuntu channel btw ? Seems to be more active than this one [12:26] havent been on there to talk about xubuntu. you think id get my questions answered? [12:26] have seen loads of questions there that looked slightly off-topic, but pulse and audio topics shouldn't be a problem i think [12:27] give it a shot, more eyes on a problem can't hurt [12:27] of course not [12:36] well [12:36] that was futile [12:40] sundays maybe .. can't seem to find a simple solution myself at the moment grrr, ah well, maybe it's time for a bbreak [12:40] using xubuntu 8.04 amd64 and opera 9.5b2 amd64, how do i get java working? [12:42] yeah just getting a dark french coffee and turning in the old system [12:44] kripz: you can activate java via Synaptic [12:45] drash, which package? [12:46] i'll check, there are a few options, brb [12:46] sun-java6-bin [12:47] that's the official java from sun, also sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin [12:49] drash, i cant see sun-java6-plugin? [12:50] kripz: you must activate some extra repositories for that, proprietary driver etc.. [12:51] Via Synaptic GUI or manually uncommenting some lines in your sources.list .. [12:52] after that it should show up [12:52] drash, everything is ticked for repositories except for source [12:52] and http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu is checked [12:53] i'll check where that package is coming from, brb [12:54] it's from the multiverse repo [12:55] maybe im missing some sources from the third-pqrty tab [12:56] could be, but both other java packages mentioned also come from multiverse repo, a bit strange [12:59] drash maybe the plug in only appears for x86? [13:00] yes that's a possibility, i'm not sure [13:02] the plugin is also installable if you point you're firefox (or other mozilla browser) to sun's website [13:02] that's an alternative route untill you can clear-up the repo confusion [13:09] well [13:10] a well is a hole in the ground :) [13:10] a well is the stone wall surrounding the hole in the ground? [13:11] not all wells are surrounded by stone walls... [13:11] oh? [13:11] well arent you just mister knows-wells-all-too-well [13:12] ask any african [13:12] that was a generalisation [13:12] no one here is offended [13:12] wait.. Xubuntu is supposed to be the one for Africans and stuff [13:13] xubuntu is for anyone - ubuntu is an african word is all [13:13] yes but Xubuntu runs on the lower end PCs and all that jazz [13:14] how'd the install go TheJudasPriest [13:14] ah all well and good except pulseaudio was being stubborn [13:16] pulseaudio bites! [13:16] just wasnt installed [13:16] couldnt mount the CD drive.. [13:16] couldnt get to the volume control [13:16] and thats about all [13:17] tried typing alsamixer in a terminal? [13:17] ergh [13:17] ill boot her up and try it out [13:17] k [13:20] is there a way to find out how much ram is attached to a video card? [13:20] pteague: try sudo lshw - it gives lots of info [13:22] that's what i'm currently looking at & i don't see anything on this 1 [13:23] pteague: sysinfo also has a tab with info on your graphics card i believe [13:23] & not seeing anything on the other... i'm getting clock speed [13:23] no, sorry, that doesn't show it either [13:24] thanks RDTD [13:24] well.. now audio CDs arent mounting so i cant try it out [13:25] Priest, try "sudo mlocate *.wav", there's bound to be something on there that you could use to test sound [13:26] well, my old compaq armada e500 (500mhz intel, 128mb ram, ati rage mobility) worked pretty good yesterday as a frontend... watched all of the 1st indiana jones movie & got through most of the 2nd movie until suddenly mythtv exited... i'm guessing it got to hot [13:26] will try it out now [13:33] all right! [13:33] cool cool stuff [13:34] party time [13:34] :) [13:34] its all working now! thanks alot RDTD [13:34] ill work on getting those audio cds to mount tomorrow [13:34] warn your neighbours lol [13:35] five channels of HELLL [13:35] yeah you get that really satisfied feeling when you get soemthing to work on linux [13:36] yes that's true, i've redone the sealing a few times this week .. glowing like a child when i saw compiz the first time [13:36] you got the flame drawing and all that up? [13:37] yep, altough there's still alot to configure [13:37] i dont think my old system can hack that [13:37] but its on this one and its killer [13:37] q/msg ubottu !mount [13:37] oops [13:38] the new compiz fusion splash is cool indeed [13:38] !bot [13:38] I am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;) [13:38] hm [13:38] !bot [13:38] damn [13:38] !tab [13:38] You can use for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [13:39] [13:39] what the [13:39] well id best some shuteye [13:39] letterman aint on tonight so no use in staying up [13:40] I'm off to watch the motogp myself :) [13:40] righto [13:40] night lads [13:40] oh wait [13:40] before i go [13:40] whats the offtopic xubuntu channel? [13:40] cya TheJudasPriest [13:41] #xubuntu-offtopic [13:41] night all [13:41] excellent [13:41] nighty night [13:46] anybody got links to guides on installing java x86 on xubuntu amd64?? [13:50] kripz: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=343, but you might seen that already .. [14:18] wooo success [14:18] extracted java x86 to a random folder, installed opera x86, changed the java path and it worked [14:24] :) smart thinking [14:52] Hi [14:55] Hardy wasn't hanging quite often on my K6-2 machine, especially under load, so I went back to Gutsy which doesn't have any issues, and I've found something curious http://pastebin.com/m44f6986b [14:55] oops [14:55] Hardy WAS hanging* sorry [14:58] Is the acpi implementation in Hardy having issues with older CPUs? [16:45] Could someone tell me how to uninstall firefox? [16:46] not through synaptic package manager [16:46] but terminal [16:46] please [16:46] I have a problem I can not install any add-ons to firefox [16:47] it just says that installation terminated due to unknown error. After that it show in Add-ons as installet but the Addon is not working. And I can't ninstall it either [16:47] aNY ideas please? [16:51] sudo apt-get remove firefox [16:51] or maybe not 'firefox' [16:51] i dont really know [16:51] maybe 'mozilla-firefox' [16:52] at first i'd remove the profile directory [16:52] mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-backup [16:53] let me try [16:53] thank you guys [16:54] and next? just remove it? [16:55] I used Firefox3 Beta uninstalled it and installed firefox2 [16:55] Could that cause the problem (although I can't see why) [16:57] OK i will try to install it back now [16:59] Setting up firefox-2 (2.0.0.14+2nobinonly-0ubuntu1) ... [16:59] Please restart any running Firefoxes, or you will experience problems. [16:59] cp: cannot stat `/usr/share/firefox-2/firefox-2-restart-required.update-notifier': No such file or directory [16:59] dpkg: error processing firefox-2 (--configure): [16:59] subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 [16:59] Processing triggers for libc6 ... [16:59] ldconfig deferred processing now taking place [16:59] Errors were encountered while processing: [16:59] firefox-2 [16:59] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [17:00] installation comes up with this. any ideas why? [17:03] Morning. Trying to install an audacious skin. (also happens with other basic tasks) but I do not have the permissions in the directory to extract the files. This happens all the time and I have to go into terminal and "su" to do most anything with directories. [17:05] i think you just need to change permissions [17:05] as su in a terminal window? [17:06] I think, I'm a newbie as well but I came accross this already [17:06] just a sec [17:06] yeah, that was it. I did chmod 777 Skins [17:06] xodiak: gksu thunar [17:06] xodiak: but don't overuse that [17:07] TheSheep: thank you. I remember reading about that. (only been using this OS for a week. sorry for the newbness. [17:08] daftpunk: thanks for that too it also worked. [17:09] np at all [17:10] Can somebody tell me where are all the firefox add-ons saved? [17:10] I have a serious problem with firefox [17:10] daftpunk: in .mozilla/firefox/random-name-of-your-profile/extensions [17:11] thanks [17:11] will it solve the problem If i just delete everything? :D [17:12] no idea about the nature of your problem, so can't tell [17:13] Problem is that addons that didnt work on firefox-2 are now showing under firefox 3 as installed and they don't work and I can't uninstall them. reinstaling firefox does not solve the problem. [17:17] daftpunk, there are two config settings you can try to change, extensions.checkCompatibility and extensions.checkUpdateSecurity, put them both to 'false'. Install 'nightly tester tools' if you don't already have it and from the restart on you can activate or de-activate your add-ons [17:17] if the keys don't exist, put them in as new via about:config === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [17:28] question: I'm having to run Xubuntu (or Xfce I guess) because I'm doing this on a really old system. What is the lightest, less of a resource hog web browser? [17:30] Dillo is very lightweight, though lacks a quite a few functions [17:30] you could go for w3m too, which is textbased [17:31] I don't know if I want to go that light. [17:32] I'll give Dillo a try to check it out though. [17:32] well, what are the specs or your old comp? [17:32] or = of [17:33] 450Mhz / 640 mb ram / 64 mb video [17:33] oh boy [17:33] 640 or 64 MB RAM? [17:34] Opera would run nice on that I'd say [17:34] 640 [17:34] Yeah, opera has been better than Seamonkey and Firefox so far. [17:34] if we stick to programs available from the official repo at least [17:35] I've tried Kazehakase though found it a bit rough still [17:36] I'm really liking opera. But if I get too many tabs open, the system slows down a bit [17:37] Konq-E didn't impress me... NetSurf might be an option [17:38] downloading netsurf now [17:40] thanks people. [17:45] is it just me, or should openoffice.org depend upon, or at least recommend, a dictionary? [17:46] i consider myself a pretty fluent linux user, and needed google to help me figure out that i needed to install myspell-dictionary-en to get spellchecking working.. [17:47] and i think it only affects those of us who are xubuntu users, since ubuntu users have OOo preinstalled with dictionaries [18:04] what's the matter? [18:10] hm? was that addressed to me? [18:11] (i don't know if people were talking before i joined... :) ) [18:14] my complaint is just that installing openoffice.org-writer, and every package that it depends on or recommends, spell checking flat out doesn't work... [18:15] it's a packaging gripe with OOo, i guess, but since it's a problem that only users for whom OOo and its dictionaries weren't automatically installed will bump into... [18:16] which, afaik, means only xubuntu users and ubuntu server edition users... [18:24] godlygeek try installing language-support-xx [18:25] fair enough, that clearly would have done the trick... [18:25] but, how would i have known to do that? [18:26] i'm not so much worried about me, so much as the people i'm trying to convince that ubuntu makes linux usable for the (only slightly above) average end-user... [18:27] godlygeek: was it an alternate cd install? [18:27] no, desktop cd - though it was a beta install that i dist-upgraded [18:27] when hardy final came out, i mean [18:36] well, if this isn't a problem that other people have, i suppose i'll shut up about it. :) [18:36]