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dru_ "dude" :lspci ....please...identify your sound card00:00
dru_:lspci00:00
armin_does anybody know why my system didn't change the language even if I did apply it?00:00
illriginaldru_ you're speakin to me?00:00
shaffycan someone correct this .bashrc line?  alias flash="wine /0doubly/Stuff/re. utilities/wordflashreader.src/WordFlashReader-0.99.9.exe"00:01
daskReechshaffy: use single quotes00:01
shaffydaskReech: thanks.  :)00:02
dru_lspci gives you your hardware info... but no i ment that for other dude00:03
illriginalah ok.. yeah I read above my comment lol00:03
shaffydoes an X-restart restart .bashrc?00:03
dru_"dude" is this "you" http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Intel00:04
dru_as in AC97 intel ?00:04
kuroryuushaffy: no00:04
shaffykuroryuu: ahhh... thank you.  :)00:04
kuroryuushaffy: restart your terminal app or just use the command bash00:05
dru_(gotta love the cli alsa mixer) :D00:06
dru_:alsamixer00:07
avihaybhow can I tell what's the best (linux) driver for my video card?00:07
dru_yeah : okay "dudes"  :alsamixer  will show you whats muted00:08
ofosalut les gars00:10
kuroryuuavihayb: what kinda card is it?00:10
daskReechofo: hello00:10
ofobonne soirée les gars00:10
ofo:p00:10
ofo:)00:11
daskReech!fr00:11
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr00:11
daskReechor not00:11
shaffycan someone tell me if there are any errors in this .bashrc line?  alias flash='wine /0doubly/Stuff/re. utilities/wordflashreader.src/WordFlashReader-0.99.9.exe'00:12
kuroryuushaffy: is the path correct?00:14
shaffykuroryuu: interesting.  it seems a i may need a set of double quotes around the pathname b/c it has a space in it00:15
shaffyi'm going to try it out.00:15
shaffybrb.00:15
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daskReechthere is a space in the name ?00:16
marwhello. http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main is in my list? how do i start update from kde 3.5 to 4?00:17
kuroryuumarw: install kde4-core00:17
marwsorry, got an error: install: missing destination file operand after `kde4-core'00:18
daskReechmarw: sudo apt-get install kde4-core00:18
shaffykuroryuu: still no luck :(00:19
marwthat is it. thank you.00:19
kuroryuushaffy: can you run the command without the alias?00:20
shaffykuroryuu: yes.  if i put wine "/0doubly/Stuff/re. utilities/wordflashreader.src/WordFlashReader-0.99.9.exe" into a shell, it executes.00:23
kuroryuushaffy: try alias flash='wine "/path"'00:24
shaffykuroryuu: i did, unfortunately.00:25
kuroryuushaffy: with single quotes around the alias and double around the path? try it again00:26
shaffykuroryuu: this is what i've tried:   alias flashr='wine "/0doubly/Stuff/re. utilities/wordflashreader.src/WordFlashReader-0.99.9.exe"'00:26
shaffy*flash not flashr00:26
paolois there a good graphical html editor?00:28
kuroryuushaffy: try typing the alias line directly into the shell00:28
kuroryuupaolo: quanta00:28
shaffykuroryuu: it worked!   but how come it won't launch as a run command??00:29
paolothnks kuroryuu00:29
enterusernamehi all00:30
kuroryuushaffy: I'm not sure what you mean, it won't work in alt+F2?00:30
enterusernameDoes hardy work with ipod classics for ffmpeg?00:30
daskReech!hi00:30
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!00:30
shaffykuroryuu: no, it won't.  completely puzzled!00:30
enterusernameI notice psp is missing , I'm looking for a way to compile all codecs into ffmpeg and i dont nkow where to look00:30
enterusernameand im using ffmpeg00:30
kuroryuushaffy: have you tried restarting X?00:31
RuyalarPrensi!slm00:31
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RuyalarPrensi!hello00:32
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!00:32
shaffykuroryuu: i've restarted the entire machine several times.  i'm going to try changing the name of the alias and restart.  brb00:32
kuroryuushaffy: if that doesn't work try putting the line in .bash_login and restarting X00:32
daskReechRuyalarPrensi: What are you looking for?00:32
enterusernamehi where can i find a complete ffmpeg codec compilation for hardy?00:32
shaffykuroryuu: thanks.  will try and brb.00:32
daskReechenterusername: apt-get install ffmpeg ?00:32
enterusernameDoes that have aac/h264/psp codecs00:33
daskReechshould00:33
enterusernameI did.. it doesnt appear to have psp. ill see if it has ipod00:33
daskReechwell psp is h264 as far as I know00:34
enterusernamehow can i tell what codecs are in ffmpeg i forgot.00:34
RuyalarPrensi!turk00:34
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RuyalarPrensi!turkish00:34
ubottuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.00:34
daskReech!tr00:35
enterusername-formats :)00:35
ahmedhi00:38
RuyalarPrensiahmet selamü00:39
RuyalarPrensi!arabia00:39
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RuyalarPrensi!arabic00:39
ubottuFor the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join للغة العربية رجاء انظم #ubuntu-sa00:39
RuyalarPrensi:D00:39
enterusernamehmm00:40
ahmedyes00:40
enterusernameffmpeg does have avid compiled into it for hardy00:40
enterusernamexvid even00:40
ahmedil  ya  des arbes  ici ?00:42
ahmedmmm  alors  je  quitte00:44
shaffykuroryuu: still no luck.00:44
shaffywas it .bash_login that you told me to try it in?00:44
kuroryuushaffy: yes, but apparently you can't run aliases from alt+F200:45
shaffykuroryuu: that's weird, b/c one of my other aliases works in alt+f2?00:45
kuroryuushaffy: then I'm stumped :P lol00:46
shaffykuroryuu: same here.  :)00:46
vonteim running kubuntu 7.04 does anyone know how to upgrade to kubuntu 7.10 without using a live cd00:55
vonte im running kubuntu 7.04 does anyone know how to upgrade to kubuntu 7.10 without using a live cd00:58
kuroryuuvonte: update-manager00:58
shadowbox_hello00:58
shadowbox_daskReech: hey man00:58
vonteKuoryuu: how do i get to update manager00:58
kuroryuuvonte: open up console and run update-manager01:00
joshualhey folks is there a kickoff repository for kubuntu?01:00
kuroryuuvonte: *konsole01:00
daskReechjoshual: A what?01:00
joshualdaskReech: the opensuse menu in kde01:01
daskReechjoshual: Right what about it?01:01
joshualdaskReech: is there a repository for it for kubuntu?01:01
daskReech!info kickoff01:01
daskReech!kickoff01:01
ubottuPackage kickoff does not exist in hardy01:01
ubottuKickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233101:01
joshualhmm01:02
joshualok thx01:02
Jucatoit's not packaged for Kubuntu (by Kubuntu). you'll have to search in kde-apps.org or kde-look.org01:02
joshualoh thanks01:03
netsharkhi yall01:05
daskReech!hi01:05
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!01:05
netsharki didn`t use linux for ages01:06
netsharkwhat does backports means ?01:06
daskReechnetshark: It means the package is from kubuntu+1 but made available for kubuntu01:07
netsharkumm didnt get it :p01:07
daskReechnetshark: you know kubuntu+1 ?01:08
netsharkdo you mean like they took it from the old KDE and made modification to run on the KDE 4 ?01:08
daskReechnetshark: ha ha No :)01:08
netsharkno i don`t know kubuntu+1 :/01:08
daskReechthere are versions of Kubuntu01:08
daskReech  Like Gutsy feisty hardy01:09
netsharkis it the old kubuntu or the new ?01:09
daskReechor if you prefer 7.10 7.0 4 8.0401:09
daskReech7.0401:09
netsharkwho is Gusty feisty hardy lol :p01:09
netsharki wanna use ubuntu but there`s lots of ubuntus around dunno which one should i get :/01:09
netsharkthats why i`m still on Mandriva :/01:10
daskReechnetshark: When you say there are lots of Ubuntus what do you mean?01:10
daskReechwhat is confusing you?01:11
netsharkwhich ubuntu to get :/01:11
Xbehavenetshark: are you on an old computer01:12
netsharkthere`s Ubuntu Kubuntu Xubuntu Eubuntu01:12
daskReechnetshark: as in ubuntu or Kubuntu etc ?01:12
netsharknot too old01:12
netsharkP4 3.06 HT01:12
daskReechnetshark: Well Edubuntu is for education. Are you teaching or in a learning environment ?01:12
Xbehavenetshark:  would you prefer a simple interface or one with options01:12
netsharkintel Motherboard01:12
netsharkGeforce FX560001:12
netsharkno then the E is not for me01:13
daskReechnetshark: the rest are just different frontends01:13
kuroryuunetshark: ubuntu if you like Gnome, kubuntu if you like KDE01:13
daskReechWhich ever one you like better01:13
daskReechGnome XFCE or KDE01:13
netsharkso i must get either Kubuntu to get the KDE desktop or the ubuntu if i wanna the GNOME01:14
netsharkKDE all the way man :p01:14
daskReechnetshark: Right01:14
daskReechThen Welcome!!!01:14
* daskReech hugs netshark 01:14
Xbehaveyeah thats more than new enough for kubuntu or ubuntu? both gnome and kde are good interfaces, you can switch after a while, if you like options go with kde tho01:14
* netshark high five :)01:14
daskReechhi five!01:15
netsharkok kubuntu+1 what is this ?01:15
netsharkwhich one got KDE4 ?01:15
netsharki am still on KDE 3.5.901:15
daskReechnetshark: For mandriva you have 2006 2007 2008  Right ?01:15
netsharkdidn`t try the KDE4 yet01:16
kuroryuunetshark: you can get kde4 on any of them01:16
netsharkam on the latest distro01:16
netsharkSpring 2008 PowerPack01:16
netsharkgot it from mininova lol :p01:16
Xbehavekubuntu+1 will make computers explode atm probably best not to use it, kde4 isnt quite ready yet, but you can use it with kde3 apps01:17
daskReechnetshark: right so the next version of Mandriva to come out we would call mandriva+101:17
netsharkaha01:19
netshark+1 men the latest one01:19
netsharkjust came out :)01:19
daskReechnetshark: no no means newer than the latest one01:19
Xbehaveno +1 is the one due out in 6 months01:19
daskReechso mandriva+1 would be mandriva 200901:19
netsharklike the RC1 - RC201:19
netsharksort of01:20
daskReechnetshark: Whenever. it's just the one that they are working on now for the future01:20
daskReechnetshark: So if they do a package there and then make it available for you to download now. That's a backport01:20
netsharkaha but it is still beta right ?01:20
enterusernamewell 'EnterUserName hits the easy button." I sucessfully installed ffmpeg with all codecs :) with compiling.01:20
basyhi whitch package i have to instal when i need to use fork(); command in my C++ application, plz?01:20
Xbehavenope +1 isnt even alpha yet01:21
kuroryuuhave they decided what they're calling the next ubuntu version yet?01:21
daskReechnetshark: The overall thing? yes01:21
netsharkoh so that means use it then report to us right :1 i`ll test it for them right ?01:21
daskReechXbehave: He's trying to get the concept not the current state :)01:21
daskReechassuming that netshark is a he01:21
Jucato!backports01:22
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging01:22
netsharkyeah he :p01:22
netsharkoh got it now :)01:23
netsharkso i must enable the backports because its a good thing but when something crash i report it then uninstall it immediately and get a stable not backport version :)01:24
daskReechnetshark: good man!01:24
netsharkman KDE4 owens MAC BIG TIME01:24
netsharki`ve tested the MAC OSX 10.4 the Tiger distro01:24
netsharkit sucks big time its boring :(01:25
daskReechSo stable not crashing. Lots of options01:25
daskReechI'd hate it too :)01:25
netsharkthey say Leopard is better but nothing compares to Linux :)01:25
Xbehavenetshark: no backports is mainly for critical fixes,01:25
netsharkLINUX RULES !!! :)01:25
Xbehavetheres propose repository for untested software but even that is fairly stable01:25
netsharkXbehave: like the auto updates in winsucks (windows) ?01:26
valesalve01:27
netsharkkewl01:27
netsharkanyway guys which is the best MP3 player like Winamp ?01:28
Xbehavenetshark: yeah i think they backport some but mainly once they release a version  they stabalise it for a month then go on to the next version01:28
daskReech!mp301:28
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:28
daskReech!audio01:28
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP301:28
netsharkxmms is working but it sucks i can`t read the fonts :(01:28
daskReech!players01:28
ubottuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs01:28
Xbehavenetshark: you can make xmms twice as big IIRC01:28
Xbehavebeep is also good01:29
netsharkXbehave: it seems that i`ve only chosed the player itself i didn`t chose the other optional stuff :) i`ll see that thanks guys :)01:30
netsharkdaskReech Xbehave thanks alot for the help guys :)01:30
Xbehavenp01:30
kuroryuuah, they have named the next release, Itrepid Ibex01:31
daskReechnetshark: beep is also good01:31
daskReechkuroryuu: Yep01:31
o0Chris0odoes kubuntu have a version of winrar or something close to that?01:36
fildo\aback.01:37
o0Chris0o!welcome | fildo\a01:38
ubottufildo\a: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!01:38
Jucatoo0Chris0o: if you have rar and unrar installed, Ark can handle rar files01:38
kuroryuuo0Chris0o: sudo apt-get install unrar rar01:38
o0Chris0oty ty01:38
daskReechwait01:41
daskReech you can install rar now?01:41
JucatodaskReech: "now"?01:46
Jucato!info rar01:46
ubotturar (source: rar): Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.1-1 (hardy), package size 498 kB, installed size 1036 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)01:46
daskReechWasn't it restricted or you had to pay for it or something?01:46
daskReech it was in breezy01:46
Jucatowell it's still in multiverse if that's what you mean01:46
=== tom__ is now known as Jamenai
Jamenaimoin01:51
farchordman, gotta admit, I'm happy to have found a mirror close to me for ubuntu repos.... ca.archive.ubuntu.com was getting dang'd slow01:56
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epimethahoy everybody!02:06
daskReechhey02:06
erichey everyone - new to ubuntu this weekend - trying to figure out why im unable to move files into the File System folders02:07
epimethwhat up?02:07
epimetheric: where are you trying to copy them to, exactly02:07
epimeth?02:07
ericepimeth: for example, wallpapers to the /usr/share/backgrounds or /theme folders02:08
epimetheric: you might not have permission to write to those folders02:09
daskReecheric: You need to be root to write in there02:10
epimetheric: the filesystem is permission based, meaning that each folder has an owner part, a group part, and an "all users" part02:10
farchorderic use sudo02:10
epimetheach set of permissions has read, read, and execute02:10
farchord*read, write and execute02:11
epimethso while you, as an "all users" user might have permission to read, and execute within certain folders, you might not have write permissions02:11
epimethyes, thanks daskReech02:11
epimetherm, farchord02:11
farchordlol02:11
epimethso yes, you will probably want to use sudo... but you might just want to set write permission for that folder as it doesn't seem like those folders are that important02:12
farchordepimeth: might be good to mention too, for wallpapers and themes, I do think you can sit it somewhere on your home dir, just not too sure on the specifics02:13
Jucatoepimeth: it's not a good idea to change permissions for system folders02:14
epimethJucato: well I was waiting for him to reply before I gave him that warning02:14
epimethbut seriously... the *background* folder?02:15
ericsorry - thanks everyone, just been trying to get write permissions02:15
epimetheric: don't do that... just use sudo.  like Jucato said, its bad to get into the habbit of changing permissions to system folders02:16
farchorderic: Changing permissions on system folders, in a simple comparison, is like building a big sign on your computer saying "Please attack me"02:16
Jucatoeric: you shouldn't be doing anything in system folders anyway unless you want them to apply to any and all users. if you just want to add a wallpaper for yourself, you can do that safely in your own home directory02:17
Dr_willisI always have my own /home/username/WallPaperAndIcons Directory.02:17
ericok thanks02:17
farchordnp02:17
epimethnw02:19
farchordMan I <3 last.fm02:19
epimethanyhoo.. I gotta run boys.  catch you later02:19
farchordcy@02:20
Agent_bobwhat's the avarage runtime on laptop batteries ?02:25
daskReechAgent_bob: that's a non question02:26
daskReechToo many varaibles02:26
daskReechlets say under 5 hours :)02:26
daskReechhopefully over 20 minutes02:26
farchorddon't know the actual numbers, and it depends on your activity, but considering you use in avg less CPU cycles than in Windows, I would guess it lasts longuer02:26
Agent_bobdaskReech avarage kinda takes in the variables doesn't it ?02:27
daskReechAgent_bob: nuh uh02:27
daskReechthere are variance on the variables which gives a statisical spread average02:27
daskReechAgent_bob: The simple one line answer is 2 hours02:28
Agent_bobdaskReech thankyou.02:28
Dr_willisI would be  lucky to get a full 2 hrs on any laptop ive ever had.02:29
Agent_bobDr_willis hmmm then i think i'm ok with a first test of 1:50 without low battery warning  ?02:30
daskReechDr_willis: I know02:30
Dr_willis2 min warning?  That would be cutting it close. :) id set it for at least 5 to 10 min warning.02:30
Agent_bob1002:30
nflavadoes anyone happen to know if i can install the GNU Complier through the add and remove programs menu in kubuntu?02:32
nflavaim not good with the make configur and install stuff02:32
Agent_bob!build-essential | nflava02:33
ubottunflava: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)02:33
Agent_bob!info build-essential02:33
ubottubuild-essential (source: build-essential): informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB02:33
nflavahm02:33
nflavaso there is a list that will tell me if there is the GNU complier02:34
Agent_bobinstall "build-essential"   it will tell apt what else you need.02:34
Agent_bobhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware02:35
nflavaand that is through the apept installer02:35
nflavaah02:35
nflavaah sudo command02:36
nflavalets see whats this will do02:36
nflavathanks Agent_bob02:36
Agent_bobwelcome.02:36
Agent_boband is avatage recharge time longer or shorter than avarage run time ?02:37
nflavahmm..unable to lock the administration directory02:38
farchordnflava: you got a program using the apt system02:38
Jucatonflava: you have to close Add/Remove programs02:38
Agent_bobit tells you why nflava02:38
nflavaah duh02:38
nflavathere we go02:39
nflavadoin something now02:39
nflavathen after this i need to do the automake install?02:39
Agent_bobafter this you have the gnu compiler "gcc" installed.  along with various other source building tools.02:40
Jucatodepends on what is required by the source you are compiling02:41
Jucatoit may need some other build system. you will have to find out for yourself (see the link given by Agent_bob for tips)02:41
Agent_bobhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware02:42
farchordnflava: normally a good essential, do sudo apt-get install build-essential02:42
artur_how can i open a .mht file in the firefox?02:42
Agent_bobmht looks like a typo of htm02:42
Agent_bobrename it to .htm02:42
Agent_bob?02:42
tehcactuscan anyone help me with my video card problem?  i'm stuck at the console right now, x won't start02:43
tehcactusi just ran envyng02:43
Alethesis there a bug that prevents resizing of the external taskbar panel?02:44
artur_Agent_bob: doesn't work correctly.02:44
AlethesI always have the "normal" size and I can't get it down to small02:44
JucatoAlethes: the Configure Panel dialog is only showing the Main Panel?02:45
Alethesyeah02:45
Aletheswait02:45
Aletheslet me double check02:45
Alethesyep02:45
Agent_bobtehcactus i can get you in a gui.  but probably not help with your issue.      edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and change the   >>> driver       "nvidia" <<<  or >>> driver      "ati" <<<   to >>> driver     "vesa" <<<  save it and   "startx"02:45
JucatoAlethes: I think you need to restart kicker to update the dialog box to show External taskbar too. Alt+F2, "dcop kicker kicker restart"02:46
Alethesokl02:46
tehcactusAgent_bob: thanks02:46
Aletheslet me give it a shot02:46
tehcactusAgent_bob: will try that now02:46
AlethesJucato: there it is :)02:46
Alethesheh02:48
AlethesI themed my kde 3.59 to look as much like kde4 as possible02:48
Alethesnot because it was a worthwhile thing to do, but because I can :D02:48
Jucato:D02:49
daskReechThat's like themeing Xp to look like Vista :)02:49
daskReech... a lot like it actually  :)02:49
Aletheshttp://www.lunt.ca/kde4-3.png02:49
Alethesit's an old version of oxygen, but still02:49
Agent_bobdaskReech i made vesta look like win 3.1    does that count ?02:50
tehcactusAgent_bob: that worked, but when I ran startx before changing to vesa, it said unable to load NVIDIA module, any ideas?02:50
Alethesobviously not the exact same thing, but it's kinda cool anyway02:50
farchordAlethes: not bad.... I'm sticking with KDE3 here02:50
daskReechAgent_bob: no. That's impressive but also quite sad02:51
Aletheshehe02:51
AlethesI'm planning to upgrade to 4.1 when it's available02:51
Agent_bobtehcactus no.  sorry, you'll have to get someone else to help with the nvidia driver    i tried to install a driver for my nv card so i could learn about it.   i only learned that my card is not supported.02:51
Agent_bobdaskReech not impossable.   win 3.1 hit the trash can many years ago.   now vesta looks just like it...    in the bottom of the trash can... :)02:52
Alethesmy wife has vista and loves it02:53
AlethesI can't seem to convince her to switch to linux :/02:53
tehcactusAgent_bob: thanks for getting me this far02:53
daskReechAgent_bob: ha ha you should empty your trash02:55
nflavais there one of those sudo commands to install pkg-config?02:56
Agent_bobhmmm but all i've thrown away is one stack of install floppys for win 3.1 and one oem vesta disk ...02:56
kuroryuunflava: sudo apt-get install pkg-config02:57
Agent_bob!info pkg-config02:57
ubottupkg-config (source: pkg-config): manage compile and link flags for libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 0.22-1 (hardy), package size 51 kB, installed size 152 kB02:57
Agent_bobsynopsis: sudo runs whatever follows it as SuperUser, apt-get is an apt tool for fetching packages from the "repos" and installing them, or for removing them from the system.  install tells apt-get which to do,   and; last but not least, pkg-config is the name of the package you want installed.03:00
Agent_bobnflava from hence forth  you should only need to know the name of the package...   the command has been explained  ;/03:01
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Hawkeye-Xok - remind me03:03
Hawkeye-Xhow do I make my kernel change to include pci=noacpi permanent?03:03
Hawkeye-XI know it had to do with editing the boot stuff03:03
nflavayou guys are great, thanks for all the help, this time im gunna really try to stay in kubuntu and not go back to windows03:04
Agent_bobHawkeye-X add it in the defaults section of /boot/grub/menu.lst  ?03:04
JucatoHawkeye-X: put it in the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst03:04
nflavai always end up going back cause i cant get everything i do in windows03:04
nflavabut im gunna hold out03:04
Agent_bobJucato that's not permenant though ?      first kernel update it's to do again03:05
farchordnflava: worse case scenario I know how to cheat without actually it counting as 'cheating'03:05
farchordnflava: http://www.virtualbox.org03:05
JucatoAgent_bob: most likely. not familiar with grub either :)03:05
Hawkeye-XJuca: much appreciated03:05
Hawkeye-Xhad an acpi problem earlier and I'm going to confirm if it is the same problem..03:05
Hawkeye-Xbrb03:06
farchordAnyone know if they intend on fixing the USB problems on NF4 motherboards?03:06
farchordWhen I shutdown from linux, my USB keyboard is still lit up03:06
nflavawell now i have the requiremtns for this thing i wanaa install, now time to try to get the UPnP library installed03:07
Agent_bob!find upnp03:07
ubottuFound: gupnp-tools, libgupnp-1.0-0, libgupnp-1.0-dbg, libgupnp-1.0-dev, libgupnp-doc (and 6 others)03:07
nflavacan i do a sudo install for something called libupnp03:07
nflavaoooh03:07
nflavai need 1.42 or later03:08
Agent_bob!info libupnp103:08
ubottuPackage libupnp1 does not exist in hardy03:08
nflavahm03:08
Agent_boboh.. ok.03:08
nflavaim tryin to work from this page for this software03:09
nflavahttp://ushare.geexbox.org/#Requirements03:09
Agent_bob!info libupnp003:09
ubottuPackage libupnp0 does not exist in hardy03:09
Agent_bob!info libupnp03:09
ubottuPackage libupnp does not exist in hardy03:09
Agent_bobi wonder why hardy doesn't have it ?03:09
Hawkeye-Xconfirmed - it's still saying it's missing a DSDT.aml file03:10
nflavathink i can just do sudo apt-get install libupnp ?03:10
Hawkeye-XI'm not exactly sure what it is03:10
Hawkeye-X!find n6403:10
Agent_bobnflava i was hoping you could.  but alas no.03:10
ubottuPackage/file n64 does not exist in hardy03:10
nflavadarn03:11
nflavai guess ill try to download from the sorceforge page they link to03:11
nflavait has libupnp1.6.603:11
Agent_bob!find ushare03:12
ubottuFound: ushare03:12
Agent_bob!info ushare03:12
ubottuushare (source: ushare): lightweight UPnP A/V Media Server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1a-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 49 kB, installed size 228 kB03:12
nflavaooh03:12
Agent_bobnflava why not install that ^03:12
nflavacould that work with an xbox 36003:12
nflavathats all i am trying for03:12
nflavacause i do that all the time in windows with something called tversity03:13
Agent_bobthat is what you were trying for from the page you posted    no?03:13
nflavayeah pretty much03:13
nflavai just didnt know that ushare exsisted lol03:13
nflavai guess it installed03:14
nflavanow i have to find it03:14
Agent_bobsame version    ^   so you were wasting your time...    from now on   search the package database first03:14
Agent_bob!packages03:14
ubottuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!03:14
Daisuke-Laptopah, also known as the instant-egg-frying processor03:15
nflavanice, im gunna save that link03:15
Daisuke-Laptopwow.  that was in the absolute wrong channel03:15
Agent_bobabsolute ?   are you sure ?03:15
nflavanow would that install put ushare in the "start" menu03:16
Daisuke-Laptopwrong network as wlel03:16
Daisuke-Laptopwell*03:16
Agent_bobnflava if it has a gui and you have "menu" installed   it should  yes.03:17
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personalaja03:17
Agent_bobDaisuke-Laptop ah   then there are absolutes out there.   i just found one...03:17
nflavai dont think i ever installed something called menu03:17
Daisuke-LaptopAgent_bob: here's another: "Windows ME is the absolute worst OS ever"03:18
Agent_bobnflava may be installed by default.  i really don't know.   i haven't seen default in 3 years.03:18
Agent_bob:)03:18
nflavahehe03:18
nflavacan i do a sudo install menu?03:19
_CrashMaster_Microsoft stopped admitting there ever WAS a WinME03:19
Agent_bobDaisuke-Laptop heh.   i might argue with you on that     ever try "plan9"  :)))03:19
nflavasorry for so many questions by the way but you are helping a whole lot03:19
Jucatoand why are we talking about Windows and Plan9 here?03:19
meth|i got rid of my kubuntu partition and now I get a grub error 22 when I boot my computer. how can I fix it?03:19
Agent_bobnflava you have my permission  yes :)03:19
meth|i dont have a windows recovery cd03:19
_CrashMaster_Jucato: We're preaching to the heathens.03:20
nflavahehe03:20
meth|is there a way I can fix it using the kubuntu live cd?03:20
Jucato_CrashMaster_: more like to the choir...03:20
Agent_bobJucato ^503:20
JucatoAgent_bob: too high.. can't reach :/03:20
_CrashMaster_Jucato: Knowing some of the choir girls that I do, it might not be such a bad idea :)03:20
nflavaok looks like i have menu installed now03:20
nflavalets see if i can find ushare03:20
Agent_bobnflava Jucato can correct/redirrect on this.  but you may have to configure kde to show the debian menu     (which "menu" installs)03:22
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JucatoAgent_bob: can't correct you on something I don't know about :)03:22
nflavahm that sounds like it will be fun...03:22
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Agent_bobJucato the kmenu show the debian menu by default when installed ?03:23
Jucatoafaik yes03:23
Agent_bobk03:23
Agent_bobnflava look in the kmenu for debian03:23
Agent_bobi think.   may rename to    "more apps"   or something fishy like that03:24
nflavaok ill look for debian03:24
Agent_bobif i used kde more often i might remember these things03:24
nflavai dont really see any item that says debian in the Kmenu at all03:25
Vzlaalguien q hable castellano03:25
Agent_bobnflava anyway  when found it should have a submenu with all the installed apps that have any form of a gui about them   and some things that don't have03:25
Agent_bob!ve03:26
ubottuFactoid ve not found03:26
Agent_bob!pt03:26
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.03:26
Agent_bob!es03:27
ubottuAquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.03:27
nflavai dont need to like reboot or anything to see this debian do i03:27
Agent_bobno03:27
Jucatonflava: try running this command: "kbuildsycoca"03:27
Vzlagracias03:27
Agent_bobdenada03:27
Steve-calIn the KDE System Settings, under Sound, I can enable it to "run with the highest possible priority (realtime priority)"--what does this mean? Is it supposed to change the priority of certain running processes related to audio?03:28
nflavaits says....03:28
Agent_bobnflava don't flood !03:29
nflavajust 2 lines03:29
Agent_bob!flood | nflava03:29
ubottunflava: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:29
nflavasays its running then reusing exsisting ksycoca03:29
Agent_bobanyway the output is unimportant.   it should have updated your kmenu03:29
nflavamenu seems the same03:30
Agent_bobnflava i thought it would.  but it might have needed updated.      who knnws.      anyway right click the kmenu and configure it    show all03:31
Agent_bobthe kmenu button has a very small ^ in the corner you can use for that  iirc03:32
nflavaok i see debian in the menu editor03:33
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nflavaso now i need to show all03:33
Agent_bobor show debian03:33
Agent_bob:)03:34
Agent_bobit shows all03:34
Agent_bobone reason i like that submenu   it's de independant.   same on gnome as it is in kde or blackbox03:35
Agent_bobif you have several desktops installed in your system  you can have a universal menu for them03:36
nflavahmm still didnt get it to show debian in the kmenu, still looking03:36
* Agent_bob <blinks> <hides> "oops" </hides> </blinks>03:37
nflavaheh im great in windows but this kubuntu can really show you who the boss is lol03:37
Agent_bobnflava lol   i'm the opsite.   can't force windows to do anything i want it to do...03:38
nflavaok so hmm03:39
nflavai can now see debian, i had to add a submenu to it03:39
nflavaso i made one called ushare but how do i find out where that installed to when i did the apt-get install03:40
o0Chris0owhere do I find my .asoundr ? I can't seem to locate it03:40
linuxloverhello room03:40
Agent_bobnflava ?       sudo update-menus03:40
Agent_bobsee if that adds all apps to the debian sub03:41
nflavanope, still just the ushare i made03:41
nflavathat doesnt do anything when i click on it lol03:41
nflavai guess cause i dont know where the work parh is03:41
Agent_bobthat's not right.   what's broke there ?03:41
nflavaits a fresh install, just did it last night03:42
Agent_bobnflava the working path will probably be /usr/bin/03:42
linuxloveri have 3 pcs. (2desktops + 1 laptop), i want to go wireless connection between them. what hardwares should i need? i am a newbie in networking world03:42
Agent_bobbut you should NOT need to manually add to the debian menu.   that's not normal...03:43
nflavauh o03:43
_CrashMaster_linuxlover: you'll need 2 usb or pci wireless adapters, and a wireless router.03:43
nflavai guess ill just remove what i made for now03:43
_CrashMaster_linuxlover: You'll also need a 6-pack of your local nerd's favorite beer, as bait.03:44
nflavahmmm something might be going on now...03:44
nflavaafter i loaded the command and the work path for ushare from the usr/bin folder03:45
_CrashMaster_linuxlover: Lure him over with the promise of free beer, then show him the hardware. No true nerd can resist setting up a home network.03:45
nflavaand saved....well never mind, i thought something was going to start but it didnt03:45
linuxlover:-)03:46
nflavai need to reboot for this update i did a little bit ago03:46
Agent_bobnflava you can start the app from the command line  for now to see if it has a gui   i personally know nothing about ushare03:46
nflavamaybe that will help my situation03:46
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Agent_bob!tab03:47
nflavaand just start it by navagating to the usr/bin folder?03:47
ubottuYou can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.03:47
el1tei got a couple questions about kubuntu 8.04 remix and an nforce2 mb with soundstorm alc650 i think it is03:47
Agent_bobcould  but i'd use   a konsole so you can see any text output03:47
linuxloverCrashMaster: should i connect my broadband with that router using cable?03:47
linuxloveror to change my broadband modem also?03:48
nflavayeah i meant to say in the console, i guess navagate was no tthe best word to use heh03:48
_CrashMaster_linuxlover: Yes. The cable coming out of your dsl/cable modem should feed into the WAN (or Internet) port on the wireless router.03:48
el1tei have 2 computers 1 (my windows gaming computer) scard stereo goes to my #2 linux box line-in jack...i then have optical out goto my home theatre03:48
Agent_bobkonsole != console    and gnome's "console" != console either.03:48
el1tehow do i turn on the line in and optical out03:48
_CrashMaster_Agent_bob: Really? Please elaborate.03:48
el1teso when i play music/games it goes from my windows pc to the linux box to the home theatre optical in03:49
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nflavahm, how do i go back a directory, not cd .. like dos03:49
_CrashMaster_Agent_bob: Or are you nitpicking "shell" vs "console"03:49
el1tei got a more important problem then trying to "CD" into a dir03:49
el1tecome on03:49
_CrashMaster_nflava: You have to put a space betwee "cd" and ".."03:50
nflavadamn i thought i did that03:50
linuxloverCrashMaster: in this way, may i switch on any one of my computers and use internet keeping the other two machines switch off?03:50
nflavamy bad03:50
Agent_bobgnome's "console" and konsole are terminal emulators for the x-window environment    the console is the tty thingys found at "alt+ctrl+f1"   through "alt+ctrl+f7"  7 normally hosting the x server03:50
_CrashMaster_linuxlover: yes.03:50
Agent_bob_CrashMaster_    ^03:50
Agent_bobs/hosting/running/03:51
_CrashMaster_Agent_bob: nifty!03:51
nflavabe right back03:51
Agent_bobnflava yes  cd ..    is up one dir03:52
linuxloverCrashMaster: which product should I buy? http://www.dlink.co.in/products/Product_temp.aspx?id=4,287 or http://www.dlink.co.in/products/Product_temp.aspx?id=4,35603:52
alucardromeroAnybody know the solution to the KDE/laptop/screensaver/brightness issue?03:53
Agent_bobcd / is the root dir    cd   or   cd ~   or   cd $HOME     all take you to your home dir03:53
_CrashMaster_linuxlover: Either will work, but the first one is niftier03:53
_CrashMaster_linuxlover: But get a USB one, unless you dont mind taking your PC apart.03:54
linuxloverCrashMaster: may you please give me for the product link of that usb adapter (D-Link manufactured) and also the router?03:56
nflavaok back....what an amazing reboot, everything i was using came right back on the desktop :)03:56
* Agent_bob feels like trolling channel #ubuntu and saying >>>why does the "console" button in the menu not take me to a console ? it only opens a terminal emulator.<<< but probably wont.03:56
_CrashMaster_linuxlover: I guess so. Normally I'd say do the research yourself, but I'm bored so why not. Why do you want DLINK products?03:56
nflavaand now there is apparently a graphic card driver problem03:57
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_CrashMaster_Agent_bob: Is there any advantage to using the "true" console instead of an emulator?03:57
linuxloverbecause it is easily available in our small local market03:57
_CrashMaster_linuxlover: Ah. ok. Give me a few moments.03:57
_CrashMaster_2 desktops and 1 laptop, right?03:57
linuxloverCrashMaster:ok..... Yes, but the laptop has a inbuild wireless card03:57
_CrashMaster_ok03:58
Agent_bob_CrashMaster_ they are not == so yes and no.  both have their place.    i haven't started xorg today personally   so all i've seen is consoles...03:58
_CrashMaster_Agent_bob: I see. Do you have some recommended reading on the subject?03:58
Agent_bobnothing in particular.  but there are plenty of pages that google can find03:59
Agent_bob!cli | _CrashMaster_03:59
ubottu_CrashMaster_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal03:59
MHz128Does the emerald-theme package require a special repo?04:01
MHz128I can't find it anywhere04:01
nflavahmm with the reboot, seems there is a problem with my nvidia drivers04:01
Agent_bob_CrashMaster_ there are a few things that it's much easer to do in a gui   like photo/vidio editing for example,   but short of that, i have not found anything that i "couldn't do" in a console.   and that includes watching movies.     but i'm  OT so i'll move on.04:02
Agent_bobnflava you may have to reinstall the driver for the particular kernel version     i don't like propritary drivers...04:03
_CrashMaster_This is wierd.04:04
_CrashMaster_I can't find any wireless + wired routers on D-Link's india site.04:04
Agent_bobthat is wierd04:05
fulat2khi folks, is it possible to specify a "sync" flag when mounting USB devices?04:05
Agent_bobfulat2k yes04:05
fulat2kAgent_bob: any command/text file i should know of? :)04:06
linuxloverCrashMaster: i need 2 nos. of that product for my 2 desktops? right?...... and the router? may you please help me to find the router?04:06
nflavaheh i think the reinstalling of drivers will have to wait till tomrrow04:06
nflavatime for bed04:06
Agent_bobfulat2k if you mount a usb drive via UUID= in the fstab you can add sync,ro,'and friends' to the options portion of the line.   man fstab   should help with specifics04:07
nflavawill you be online tomorrow too Agent_bob?04:07
_CrashMaster_linuxlover: Yes to the first question. And Im still trying to find the appropriate product for the router. I can find it on the US site, but im having trouble on the India site.04:07
Agent_bobfulat2k otherwise if you mount manually  you can use the  -o switch in the mount command to add the options you want04:07
Agent_bobman mount   has the specifics on that04:08
Agent_bobnflava i have no idea yet.    but someone will be here that can help you.04:08
hsystemx!offtopic04:08
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:08
chalcedonyi can't think of the name of the photo showing program i had maybe you type display to show the photos?'04:09
linuxloverCrashMaster: No problem, you please take your own time04:10
Agent_bobnflava right ?04:12
Agent_bobchalcedony in an xserver that will work04:14
Agent_bobchalcedony showimg ?04:16
fulat2kAgent_bob: what about those random usb devices via auto mount?04:16
Agent_bobfulat2k for that you would have to change the default for automount    and i dont know where that is.04:17
Agent_bobsomeone else might ?04:17
Agent_bobJucato_ ?04:17
fulat2kAgent_bob: hmm.. alrity.  lemme have a look then.  thx04:18
Agent_bobfulat2k welcome04:18
Agent_bobfulat2k jsut a thought,  but "eject" is a handy command for umounting things04:19
Agent_bobthis can't be right  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=db524da604:21
morphiuseverytime my system loads, it loads the friendly-recovery menu, but this causes my system to hang, so certain services are not starting up (dhcp, etc). How can I turn this off.04:21
Agent_bobtime seems to be running way too fast   Uptime: 18 days 22 hours 23 mins 04 sec04:23
Agent_bobbah a bogus "uptime" command in /usr/local/bin/    ;/  i wonder when i did that...      this looks more like it.   22:24:34 up  2:07,  0 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.0004:25
linuxloverCrashMaster: Thank you very much for your help to me. My best regards to you.04:27
_CrashMaster_np04:28
daskReechhi CPrgmSwR204:31
CPrgmSwR2Hi04:31
daskReechI have not seen yuo in oodles of stroodles04:31
_CrashMaster_mmmm toaster stroodles04:31
CPrgmSwR2Yeah, I am now working04:32
ibhi04:32
CPrgmSwR2So not as much time04:32
CPrgmSwR2Is there a nightly build of koffice2?04:32
daskReechCPrgmSwR2: .. for Kubuntu?04:33
CPrgmSwR2yes04:34
_CrashMaster_Ooh I got a question.04:34
_CrashMaster_How do I install a .jar file?04:34
daskReechCPrgmSwR2: that would need a nightly build of KDE04:34
Agent_bob!jar04:34
ubottuFactoid jar not found04:34
daskReechsince it depends on KDE 4.104:34
CPrgmSwR2Oh04:34
daskReechso you'd need a fairly up to date KDE 4.104:34
CPrgmSwR2Yeah, I just quite tring to live on the bleeding edge, because it takes up alot of time04:35
daskReechCPrgmSwR2: Yeah it's also kind awhy we don't have nightly builds04:36
daskReechCPrgmSwR2: we are trying to aim for a weekly build04:36
Agent_bobis there no way to pipe the output of  cat << EOF   inside a script ?04:36
daskReechthat's a little more manageable04:36
Agent_bobwait  i know how.04:36
CPrgmSwR2I am just courious if koffice2 is going to have any killer features over openoffice04:36
_CrashMaster_No word on how to run this .jar file eh?04:37
_CrashMaster_TO GOOGLE!04:37
CPrgmSwR2jar .jhar04:37
CPrgmSwR2or what ever the file name is04:37
daskReech_CrashMaster_: java -jar name.jar04:37
CPrgmSwR2oops04:37
daskReechCPrgmSwR2: How's work?04:37
CPrgmSwR2It actually sucks04:38
CPrgmSwR2Because I am dealing with this horrible software04:38
daskReech>_<04:38
_CrashMaster_command java not found.04:38
_CrashMaster_Well thats just spiffy04:38
_CrashMaster_!jre04:39
ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.04:39
CPrgmSwR2_CrashMaster_: try jar name.jar04:39
_CrashMaster_CPrgmSwR2: same response04:39
Agent_bobnflava a little04:40
nflavado you know the best one that has ssl support04:40
nflavai have filezilla atm but i dont like it too much04:41
Agent_bobummm best is subjective    vsftp i think supports that04:41
Agent_bobare you looking for a gui or cli based client ?04:41
nflavagui04:41
nflavawow although i do get great speeds with filezilla04:42
nflava1.4mb/s04:42
_CrashMaster_hm04:42
_CrashMaster_helps to have java installed, I suppose.04:42
Agent_bobnflava konqueror does ftp04:42
Agent_bobgentoo ?04:43
Agent_bobsudo apt-get install gentoo     :)))04:43
nflavawell i need the ssl encryption i dont think i can get that with konquror04:43
CPrgmSwR2oh yeah04:43
nflavagentoo, sure ill try it04:43
CPrgmSwR2sudo apt-get install emerge04:43
Agent_bobnflava konqueror does ssl  and does ftp   so you should be able to04:44
nflavahm interesting04:44
nflavaemerge package cant be located04:44
Agent_bobCPrgmSwR2 emerge is not a package04:44
Agent_bobgentoo is04:44
Agent_bob!info gentoo04:45
ubottugentoo (source: gentoo): a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.55-1.1build1 (hardy), package size 767 kB, installed size 2436 kB04:45
nflavagettin gentoo now04:45
daskReechha ha04:45
nflavaand that should pop up in my kmenu?04:45
CPrgmSwR2Wow, I never thought a package would be named after a distro04:45
Agent_bobnflava did you try konqueror ?        and yes it should.04:46
Agent_bobCPrgmSwR2 it's not,  the distro was named after the app04:46
nflavanot yet, ill have to do that tomorrow lol i really need to get to bed04:46
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CPrgmSwR2oh04:46
Agent_bobnflava     in konqueror     ftp://the.url.here04:46
daskReechAgent_bob: The distro was named after  the penguin04:46
Agent_bobstill the app was first04:47
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Agent_bobor so i was informed.   source was on the internet so not overly trustworthy04:48
Agent_bob"never beleive anything you read on the insternet."  - bill gates04:48
Agent_bobs/s//04:48
daskReechAgent_bob: I know. I read that on the net the other day04:49
* Agent_bob points out that IRC=Internet Relay Chat is on the internet... </ducks>04:50
flaccidhey guys does the kubuntu installer have functionality to shrink a windows filesystem/partitin?04:51
dwidmannflaccid: I believe so04:51
NickPrestaflaccid, I'm not sure if the installer step has that ability, but QT Parted (included on CD) does04:51
JucatoAgent_bob, daskReech: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/faq.xml#pronunciation04:51
Agent_bobflaccid yes     but.    you may need to run scandisk and defrag in windows with the "pagefile" turned off     first04:52
Agent_bobwindows puts it's page file at the end of it's fs in many cases04:52
Agent_bobJucato yeah but....04:55
Agent_bobthat's on the internet too   ;/04:55
Jucatoyou're on the internet04:56
* Agent_bob doesn't believe it...04:56
cnstarz!nvidia04:57
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:57
daskReechCPrgmSwR2: So what's up?04:57
Agent_bobsee actually, i'm not on the internet.   but you are!     HAH!04:57
CPrgmSwR2daskReech: fixing to go to bed04:58
cnstarzis the nvidia driver problem fixed yet?04:58
daskReechCPrgmSwR2: I'll make that my aim as well04:58
Agent_bobi think i'll time the lappy with a full charge and normal multimedia usage   to see how long it takes before it "dies"05:00
hawkeyexok05:02
hawkeyexmy computer keeps rebooting05:02
hawkeyexand I'm trying to figure out why05:02
hawkeyexwhere do I start?05:02
hawkeyex(it reboots like once every hour)05:02
Agent_boboh my    cron ?05:02
Agent_bobthat or a script some place05:03
hawkeyexwhat's the best thing to diagnose?05:03
Agent_bobor is it a hard reset ?05:03
hawkeyexno, it reboots itself05:03
Agent_bobyes but does it shutdown propperly or instant reset ?05:04
hawkeyexinstant reset05:05
Agent_bobthat could be a memory leak    ?05:06
hawkeyexi don't know05:06
hawkeyexwhat's the best way to find out?05:06
NickPrestahawkeyex, eliminate any sort of outside variables. don't start any applications when you first boot the system. don't login. wait and see if it resets. then login, but don't start anything. wait for the reset. narrow down the causes05:09
hawkeyexok05:09
hawkeyexi will try that.05:09
Agent_bobalt+SysRQ+U  does that cleanly or uncleanly umount ?05:16
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o0Chris0oanyone here play WoW and use a headset, plz pm me05:54
drifis there a program to check my memory clock?06:00
rickeyneed the code to unlock adept installer06:03
_CrashMaster_unlock?06:03
_CrashMaster_!aptfix | rickey06:03
ubotturickey: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »06:03
rickeythank you guys06:03
firecrotc1!info ndiswrapper06:07
ubottuPackage ndiswrapper does not exist in hardy06:07
_CrashMaster_oh it does too06:08
Agent_bobdrif memtest86 ?    or  lshw  ?    what do you want ?06:08
drifAgent_bob: memtest86 is not an option because I need to keep the OS running. but as much specs from moery as possible06:09
drifmemory06:10
Agent_bobcat /proc      ;/     idk.06:10
NightBirdHow do I get my laptop to suspend to ram from the console?06:10
Agent_bobcat /proc/meminfo   i started to say06:11
drifAgent_bob: and you call that specific?06:11
Agent_bobdrif i'm not sure what you are looking for06:12
drifAgent_bob: read above06:12
drifAgent_bob: I asked for memory clock info06:12
drifbut trying lm-sensors and ksensors now, plus decode-dimms.pl06:13
Agent_bobdmesg should have that.   lshw   should have that.06:13
NickPrestaNightBird, try is for a compaq laptop but should still apply to you. http://jeremy.visser.name/2008/05/05/how-to-suspend-to-ram-in-ubuntu-on-the-compaq-evo-n610c/06:13
antsureahola06:14
NickPresta!es | antsurea06:14
ubottuantsurea: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.06:14
drifAgent_bob: decode-dimms.pl did the trick06:16
flaccidthanks guys for help before06:16
jacalopekde4 dashboard question:  how do you set it such that your plasmoids only appear when you activate the dashboard?06:29
Agent_bobdrif like i said   the first time     lshw06:32
daskReechjacalope: cover them with windows :)06:33
drifAgent_bob: I have tried that from the very beginnig - didn't give me squat when compared to decode-dimms.pl06:33
drifbeginning06:33
jacalopeaww, but i like my desktop pic06:38
Daisuke_Idojacalope: the easy answer is don't use the demonic abomination that is 4.0.x, wait for 4.1 :D06:38
daskReechjacalope: No idea if something like that is planned. as far as I know the implementation is that it creates a new layer with an new visualisation of the Plasmoids on your desktop06:39
daskReechDaisuke_Ido: few more weeks.....06:39
Daisuke_Idoyep :)06:39
Daisuke_Idoi can't wait06:40
Daisuke_Idowell, i can wait06:40
daskReechDaisuke_Ido: I was about to ask if you were going to kill yourself06:40
Daisuke_IdodaskReech: well, i installed 4.0.4 and came pretty close -_-06:41
Agent_bobdrif did you run it as root ?       sudo lshw -C memory       or -C bank    it gives me the ram speed   don't know why it doesn't for you06:43
drifAgent_bob: nothing useful I'm afraid :-\ only clock speed I mentioned is 66MHz06:45
drif-I06:45
drifI=it06:45
Agent_bob66 mhz    eeek    ;/06:45
drifAgent_bob: decode-dimms.pl give me 33306:46
Agent_bobyeah,   hmmm i wonder why your lshw doesn't06:46
drifAgent_bob: pastebin your -C memory?06:47
o0Chris0oanyone here play WoW and use a headset, plz pm me06:50
Agent_bobdrif why ?   it gives the correct info for me06:50
drifAgent_bob: for comparison06:50
drifAgent_bob: so I could see what it's supposed to output06:50
Agent_bobdescription: DIMM DRAM Synchronous 133 MHz (7.5 ns)06:50
drifAgent_bob: description: DIMM DRAM Synchronous06:52
drifon all banks06:52
Agent_bobodd...06:53
Agent_bobhmmm my laptop just died !06:58
Agent_bobtwo hours on battery  outputting audio the full time,   but not vidio,   and disk read/cpu intensive full time.    so i guess that the battery is        ok ;/07:00
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dwidmannAgent_bob: kind of sad really07:21
dwidmannAgent_bob: mine can push 7 hours :)07:21
dwidmannAgent_bob: use the application powertop to increase your battery life. It'll give you hints at what you need to do, and offer you single keypress fixes for them (most of which are things you'll have to do every bootup though, with a couple exceptions)07:22
dwidmannAgent_bob: also, the powernowd > guidance IMO ... and dimming the screen as much as possible cuts EN use by a lot.07:23
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crazy_busI'm really sorry to ask again, but I think I lost the file where I wrote a command down.  But how do I check see what outgoing and incoming internet connections my computer has?07:38
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jussi01Hey everyone! Can someone remind me where the option is to do nothing when the lid of a laptop is closed?08:17
firecrotchjussi01:  Um.... right click the power manager icon in your system tray, I think it's somewhere in there08:19
Jucatojussi01: right. right-click on g-p-m08:20
jussi01hrm.... nope... but left click does it ...08:20
firecrotchI'd give more exact details, but I'm in Windows Vista right now08:21
* firecrotch ducks08:21
* jussi01 swipes08:21
jussi01I have it, thanks08:21
* jussi01 was lookingin system settings - display....08:21
firecrotchIt would make sense that it would be there08:22
Jucatonot really, it's a function of whatever power manager you'd be using.. that would be weird in Display on a desktop system :)08:23
firecrotchJucato: Not if the system could intelligently determine if its a laptop or desktop08:24
Jucatothat would still be the power manager app's responsibility to integrate itself in the control center (not sure if either kpowersave or klaptop does so)08:25
Jucatoklaptop does (or at least it seems to)08:25
Jucatobut I have klaptop on my desktop hahaha08:26
Jucatoohwell...08:26
* firecrotch groans about configuring this stupid netgear USB wireless card08:27
crazy_bus>I'm really sorry to ask again, but I think I lost the file where I wrote a command down. But how do I check see what outgoing and incoming internet connections my computer has?08:45
Agent_bobman searching for a good laptop HOWTO looks like looking through the antuique mall ;/08:46
Agent_bobnothing newer than 199x08:46
Jucato!laptop08:47
ubottuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org08:47
firecrotchcrazy_bus:  netstat08:49
Agent_bobJucato much better,  at least this is getting close to my genera         * Support of suspend for Ubuntu 4.10 ("Warty Warthog") [SuspendHowto].08:52
Agent_bobbut i'm not looking for suspend howto   ;/08:52
crazy_busthanks firecrotch.  Do you know the best combination of options to get the current internet connections.  I'm trying netstat -ta but I'm not sure if that is the proper way08:53
Jucatohm.. ok..08:53
Agent_boboh that's from the ubuntu page the bot mentioned  :)08:53
max__I have a problem when mount my disk scsi, I have mounted it with this signature /dev/sda1/diskscsiext3defaults,sync0 0       but the directory /diskscsi is in ram and in disk, when I copy a file this file is copied to ram and to disk.... someone can help me? (the linux file system is in ram with ramdisk)08:54
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Agent_bobmax__  grep diskscsi /proc/mounts08:56
firecrotchcrazy_bus:  Can't think of it off the top of my head.... sorry08:56
Agent_bobmax__ ?08:57
max__I'm here08:57
max__system is blocked08:58
max__wait e little....08:58
max__I have rebooted the embedded system08:58
max__"/dev/sda1 /diskscsi ext3 rw,sync 0 0"09:00
max__this is the output of grep diskscsi /proc/mount09:00
max__I have a problem when mount my disk scsi, I have mounted it with this signature /dev/sda1/diskscsiext3defaults,sync0 0       but the directory /diskscsi is in ram and in disk, when I copy a file this file is copied to ram and to disk.... someone can help me? (the linux file system is in ram with ramdisk)  the output of command grep diskscsi /proc/mounts is "/dev/sda1 /diskscsi ext3 rw,sync 0 0"09:02
Agent_bobthen why do you say it is writing to ram ?    where are you getting your information ?09:02
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Agent_bobit shouldn't matter where / is as long as where you are writing is on a physical device09:03
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Dfmix.09:05
naught101is there any way to stop context menus from selecting an entry on an right-unclick?09:06
max__when I use cp command and copy 1 file09:07
max__when I use cp command and copy 1 file this file is copied into ram and into the disk09:08
max__I use cat /proc/meminfo09:08
max__I use cat /proc/meminfo to see my free memory09:08
max__and I use ls -all to see the file on the disk09:08
smartI never know Ubuntu could be so fun.09:08
max__ I have a problem when mount my disk scsi, I have mounted it with this signature /dev/sda1/diskscsiext3defaults,sync0 0       but the directory /diskscsi is in ram and in disk, when I copy a file this file is copied to ram and to disk.... someone can help me? (the linux file system is in ram with ramdisk)  the output of command grep diskscsi /proc/mounts is "/dev/sda1 /diskscsi ext3 rw,sync 0 0" I see the free memory with command "cat09:09
max__/proc/meminfo" and I see the file copied with ls -all09:09
smartWOW!~ To high above my head and thinking lol09:10
Agent_bobmax__ so you are saying that the used ram increses proportunally to the size of the file copy ?09:11
max__yes09:12
Agent_bobmax__ and this is an embeded system ?09:12
max__yes09:12
Agent_bobwhat kernel ?09:12
max__but I think is the scsi driver... when I use make menuconfig and I put some options....09:13
max__2.6.609:13
Agent_bobyeah it could be a driver issue.   i.e. if the driver is "hosed" and you copy the file to the "disk"  it may not actually be reaching the disk.    have you dismounted the device and checked it from another system to see if the file is actually on disk ?09:15
max__now I'm rebuilding the kernel with new config parameters09:15
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max__Agent, I can't see that device scsi with another system...09:16
Agent_bobBoohbah: internal scsi ?     i see.09:16
Agent_bobmax__ oh; internal scsi ?     i see.09:16
* Agent_bob says "well don't that just cock your dang pistol"09:17
Agent_bobmax__ here's another way to check that ^   you can reboot the embeded system  and see if the file remained on the scsi device over a reboot.   that should prove that it's not in ram only.09:19
max__yes of course, I check now09:19
max__is an extern scsi raid disk09:21
Agent_bobi.e.  if the file is there.  then your first assessment of the situation is correct it's writting both to ram and disk.   if the file is not there then the "faulty driver" assessment would be correct.  and the file was never actually making it to disk   only to ram.09:21
max__Agent, all the file are in the disk when I reboot the kernel09:22
max__I see all file09:22
Agent_bobok.  oe more test might be in order.  but i'm not sure you want ot play in this sand box.   you can copy enough data to over fill the ram to see if it is actually writing to ram or just caching as it writes to the disk.   if you can copy more data to the disk than will all fit in ram, without it crashing something or invoking OOMK  then your panic is over nothing.09:25
Agent_bobs/ot/to/09:25
songlinux下访问vss有没有简单的方法09:27
max__yes Agent, I have tried that... but the ram was fill.....09:27
max__and never happen09:27
Agent_bobyou are building your own kernel there     correct?09:27
max__yes09:27
max__I change some option in the scsi device09:28
Agent_bobmake sure you have OOMK set to "1"   or "last"09:28
max__but I didn't change other kernel file09:28
max__OOMK???? what do you mean?09:29
Agent_bobOOMK= out of memory kill    it's a kernel option09:29
max__ah ok ok09:29
Agent_bobone option for OOMK is "smart"  i don't reccomend "smart" because in my openion it's really "dumb"  and behaves badly09:30
Agent_bobside note on that.   anyone that want's to see how dumb smart oomk is.  just set off a fork bomb on a system that is set to smart, and watch everything but the fork bomb die...09:32
max__I have recompiled the kernel with some option in the scsi (I have eliminate log and other things) but the problem is still here09:32
max__I think is the scsi device driver....09:32
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max__that copy some log into memory09:33
Agent_bobmax__ you might want to ask in   #kernel     they can tell you much more about that than i can.09:33
max__thanks Agent for your help09:33
Agent_bobwelcome.09:33
max__join #kernel09:34
Agent_bob/join #kernel   <<<  needs the slash09:34
max__yes of course Agent ( LOL )09:35
Agent_bob:)09:35
smartI'm needing to install nmap on this Ubuntu.. could some one help me?09:36
smartI'm not that smart09:36
sigma_1234how do i install kde4.1 from source?09:39
Mind_LearningWOW!~ I'm back lol09:40
Agent_bob!build-essential09:40
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)09:40
Mind_Learningphew~09:40
Mind_Learningok ?   What does sudo    do?09:40
Mind_LearningWot is it for?09:40
firecrotchMind_Learning:  sudo is used to run commands with "root" privileges, as if you were logged in as "root"09:41
Agent_bobsuper user do09:41
dwidmannWow ... kde4's system monitor is really nice ..... http://www.xnowherex.com/images/drive_activity.png http://www.xnowherex.com/images/cpu_activity.png http://www.xnowherex.com/images/net_activity.png09:42
Mind_LearningKiller DUDE!~ thanks... what went with SU?09:42
Agent_bobsu requires a root password   the "official" ubuntu stance on that is "never set a root password"09:42
dwidmann!sudo09:43
ubottusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.09:43
Mind_LearningNice.. thanks09:43
Mind_LearningI'll do09:43
Mind_Learningread read read :)09:43
Agent_bobmy "non-ubuntu" thought on the matter is that a secure root password is better than a weak root jr. account.     but some disagree.09:45
dwidmannAgent_bob: probably more secure, but less convenient?09:46
dwidmannAgent_bob: then again, there are probably perks to having the root account locked.09:47
Agent_bobperks ?    heh :)09:47
Agent_bobwell the majority of ubuntu users drop by  freenode #ubuutu   logged into irc as their root jr. user     so the name is not guesswork  all that remains to be cracked is their password,   and    password is not a strong password but it beats a good lot of them.    name=name & password=name09:49
Agent_bobthen they run a vnc server just to make things inviting.09:50
dwidmannAgent_bob: but on the bright side, at least silly people aren't logged in as root itself.09:51
Agent_bobmany are.09:51
dwidmannsad09:51
Agent_bobor as ubuntu on the liveCD     which is root jr. with null password.09:52
dwidmannMy thoughts on the matter are keep the root jr. account to get the small benefits of not logging in as root, and remove my main user from the admin group.09:53
Agent_bobmy prefered security patern is setup init to support one root login on a locked root acount and the whole system mounted "nosuid"09:55
firecrotchI've always thought that with sudo, it should be a separate password from the account login password to use sudo09:55
Agent_bobwith that setup you only access root from hands on locally09:55
Agent_bobfirecrotch that would be more like a root password09:56
firecrotchAgent_bob:  Not quite.  Having a root password, you could just log in as root.  Crack one password.  My way, you'd have to basically crack the user password and their sudo password09:57
firecrotchAlong with first figuring out the name of the regular user09:57
dwidmannI agree.09:57
dwidmannthat would be nice09:58
Agent_bobfirecrotch the name is most of the time a given tho09:58
dwidmannBest of both worlds09:58
Pennycookfirecrotch: Your user account's password should be secure enough anyway.09:58
Agent_boband reomote attempts would go streight to sudo and not worry about the user if there was a master sudo password09:58
PennycookPlus, there would have to be some sort of override because the majority of people can't remember passwords.  How do you change your sudo password when you've forgotten it?09:59
dwidmannPennycook: the (k)(x)ubuntu installer, last I checked, allows you to use very insecure passwords without even so much as a warning (at least with the alternate installer, unsure about live), that passwd won't even let you do unless you first expire the password.09:59
firecrotchPennycook:  Same way you get into your system when you forget your user password, recovery mode09:59
Agent_bobdwidmann last i checked one char will suffice10:00
dwidmannAgent_bob: pull up a shell and do it right now10:00
Agent_bobdwidmann ?   do what ?  install ?10:00
firecrotchThis conversation reminds me.... I need to check the auth logs on my server10:01
Pennycookdwidmann: It's one of those annoyances you can't escape.  If Ubuntu made it so your password had to follow a certain number of rules, the majority of people will get frustrated that they can't have the password that they want.10:01
dwidmannAgent_bob: no, I meant change your passwd with passwd and try to enter one character, or even something long that's simple, your username, etc, dumb things.10:01
dwidmannPennycook: I can sympathize with that, my regular user passwd is intentionall weak.10:02
Agent_bobdwidmann i can do passwd -d10:02
Agent_boblike duh10:02
dwidmannAgent_bob: sure, but the point is unless you're forcing it you're at least being told not to do it.10:03
Agent_boberror: no i2c device files found. use prov/mkdev/mkdev.sh to creat them.    <<<< ?10:04
Pennycookdwidmann: Is SSH enabled by default?  If it's not, then maybe there's no restriction on the initial password because it's assumed it'll only be used locally?10:05
Agent_bobdwidmann not here.       for an example you can understand     sudo passwd -d $USER10:05
Agent_bobPennycook no. sshd is not even installed by default  iirc10:06
dwidmannAgent_bob: yeah ..... but I was referring more to changing, not first deleting then setting10:06
Agent_bobthat only deletes it dwidmann    making it a passwordless avvount10:06
dwidmanntry to change it to silly things like blah, password, $USER, etc ....10:06
Agent_bobaccount10:06
dwidmannreadas: making it a large, gaping,, potential security hole10:07
Agent_bobRetype new UNIX password:10:07
Agent_bobpasswd: password updated successfully10:07
Agent_bobset to "x"10:07
dwidmannAgent_bob: without first deleting it, see what it says when you try to set it to 'x'10:08
* firecrotch looks at auth.log on server.... Heh, I love having root disabled... no worries about the moron who keeps trying to bruteforce the root account10:08
Agent_bobRetype new UNIX password:10:08
Agent_bobpasswd: password updated successfully10:08
MDCorehey all. I've set up a dual monitor config through the GUI, but now every minute or so the machine locks up (no mouse/keyboard except capslock) for about 5 seconds. It didn't do this before I set up the second monitor. Any ideas?10:08
Agent_bobthat's what it said  i changed it from x to z10:08
Agent_bobanything else ??10:08
dwidmannit gave me this .... http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d5f36fc2710:09
Agent_bobah good they started using a pam module on that.   glad they did10:10
Agent_bobbtw  dapper here10:10
dwidmann<--- is running hardy10:10
Agent_boberror: no i2c device files found. use prov/mkdev/mkdev.sh to creat them.    <<<< so what is this?10:11
Agent_bobsmall net split10:12
Agent_boblooks like we lost about 8 users10:12
* Agent_bob being taught to open his big mouth about a security hole...10:13
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max__I need to disable the cache in my linux, but with swapoff -a don't happen anything10:22
dwidmannmax__: what does cat /proc/swaps say10:26
max__nothing10:28
max__"cat /proc/swaps" don t say nothing10:28
max__but when I use "cat /proc/meminfo" I see Cached:         135012 kB10:29
dwidmannmax__: what do swaptotal and swapfree say?10:30
max__is 010:30
max__but what is the Cached  in the cat proc/meminfo?10:30
dwidmannmax__: dunno, must e something else though.10:31
dwidmannmax__: think it's the cached data in real memory though10:31
bjoern_test10:32
bjoern_ah hallo10:32
* dwidmann gives bjoern_ an F on his or her test.10:33
bjoern_whatever that means10:33
bjoern_sorry i am beginner10:33
dwidmannbjoern_: F on a test = Fail :P10:33
bjoern_ah10:33
bjoern_ok10:33
bjoern_:-)10:33
Jucato-_-10:33
bjoern_anyone who spaeks german here? i have a problem with my firefox language package10:35
Agent_bobhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d31dfa9f9    ;/10:36
Agent_bob!DE | bjoern_10:36
ubottubjoern_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:36
Agent_bobthe bot does...10:37
dwidmannAgent_bob: I get the same thing when I try to detect sensors :( Yet I can watch them in BIOS10:37
bjoern_ah thanks10:37
dwidmannAgent_bob: if it's a recent laptop try modprobing "coretemp" and checking the coretemp in /proc10:38
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Red_Tear!joystick10:47
ubottuFactoid joystick not found10:47
Ronald__Hi all .. qeustion from a kubuntu newbie... how difficult is it to get a usb-wlan stick to work with kubuntu 8.04?10:52
Tm_TRonald__: depends, easiest case is just plugin and use10:52
Ronald__perhaps I should mention that I will be installing kubuntu when i get a new (2nd) pc next month.. just clueing up in advance right now...10:52
Ronald__- i can run the live-cd now to try stuff out of course...10:53
Ronald__tm - and that works some of the time right??10:53
Ronald__the kubuntu 8.04 supports data encription protocolls out of the box.. for the wlan i mean??10:54
RuyalarPrensivcd problem10:55
ct529I think I am going rimba .... kde 4.0.3.  I am trying to reinstate konqueror as a file manager instead of dolphin10:55
ct529but I do not apper to be able to .... anyone who can help?10:56
Ronald__Tm- same stuff from another angle.. I don't seem to find any documentation listed as being for the 8.04? Does it exist oder does the stuff for the 7.10 cover a fair bit of the 8.04 questions...?10:57
Ronald__or are there very major differences...?10:57
Ronald__lots of lag on this # or..?10:59
Ronald__- is it me "asking boreing questions!?" <smile.>10:59
ere4si!konquerer | ct52911:01
ubottuFactoid konquerer not found11:01
ere4sihmmm11:01
RuyalarPrensilan adamı hasta etmesenize vcd izleyemiom problem var diom11:02
SchorfiRonald__: maybe this list helps, when buying a new usb-wlan-stick: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported11:02
ct529!konqueror | ct52911:02
RuyalarPrensi!vcd11:02
ubottuFactoid vcd not found11:02
RuyalarPrensitopiiik11:02
Ronald__thanks shorfi...11:03
Tm_TRuyalarPrensi: polski?11:03
Schorfitake a look around this wiki, if you have more questions11:03
RuyalarPrensiTm_T: I don't speak polski11:04
Tm_TRuyalarPrensi: ok, english then? this is english channel :)11:04
Jucato!turkey | RuyalarPrensi11:04
ubottuRuyalarPrensi: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.11:04
Tm_Thmm11:04
RuyalarPrensi:)11:04
RuyalarPrensimy guys thank11:05
o0Chris0ohow do I enable tweaks?11:07
Tm_To0Chris0o: what tweaks?11:09
o0Chris0okde tweaks11:09
o0Chris0oI installed em but didn't actually run them11:09
o0Chris0oI dunno, was a awhile ago, I prolly should get to bed11:11
o0Chris0o:-p11:11
Agent_bobmy sensors are not supported,    assuming that this laptop has sensors.11:12
Agent_bobhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d31dfa9f9    ;/11:12
MaliqueHey guys, maybe I'm blind but how do you force applications to print in greyscale?11:12
Agent_bobisn't there a way to make linux not "touch" the hdd except every xminutes ?11:14
Ronald__Is anybody running 8.04 with a usb-wlan adaptor (which?)11:15
Agent_bob!sound-hda11:16
ubottuFactoid sound-hda not found11:16
Ronald__www- infos on this theme - like for a lota topics tends to be for the 7.10...11:16
Agent_bob!intel-hda11:16
ubottuFactoid intel-hda not found11:16
Agent_bob!soundhda11:16
ubottuFactoid soundhda not found11:16
Tm_Thmh, I smell fishing11:16
Agent_bobjussi01 showed me that factoid yestergo ....  ;/11:17
Ronald__re: Tm...11:17
Ronald__hmmm... looks like I will be running a cable under the carpet again... <smile->11:18
Tm_TRonald__: if you're trying to hilight me, use my full nick ;)11:19
SchorfiRonald__: i do, with a zyxel g22011:19
Ronald__Tm_T sorry pal...11:19
Tm_TRonald__: no problems11:19
Ronald__Just being lazy.. and/or was not aware of such a system....11:20
Ronald__I last used irc to any extent some 15 years ago - or thereabouts...11:20
Ronald__at least before there was the www... heheh11:20
Tm_T!tab11:21
ubottuYou can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.11:21
MaliqueOK, it looks like I can set up some sort of a filter to pass an option to ghostscript when printing to convert it to greyscale, does that sound right? Is that the only way to get programs to print in greyscale?11:21
PandemicHello, guys, tell me , what do I have to use to get rdp to winNT11:21
Tm_TPandemic: krdfc or something?11:21
Ronald__Tm_T: hehe even works in chatzilla11:21
Tm_Tit does11:21
Ronald__Tm_T: cool...11:22
Tm_TRonald__: some of us are in over 50 channels, so we cannot notice everything ;)11:22
Ronald__Tm_T: so if I am not mistaken - the chances of buying just any old cheap sup-wlan stick and it working out of the box is a bit slim...11:22
Ronald__Tm_T: I get the point...11:23
Ronald__e e usb w-lan stick... i mean...11:23
SchorfiRonald__: i have an, ~2-year-old zyxel g-220, and wlan works out of the box for me11:23
Tm_TRonald__: its all about selecting right chip11:23
Ronald__Schorfi: I am in Germany and there don't seem to be any Zyxel stuff on the market here these days...11:24
Ronald__Tm_T:  but I get the point about the chip...11:24
MaliqueTm_T: happen to know anything about how to make stuff print in greyscale?11:24
SchorfiRonald__: I am too, and i got mine from Arcor :)11:24
Tm_TMalique: have you checked your printer settings?11:25
Agent_bobis the atheros on a card or on the main board in a toshiba ?11:25
Agent_bobanyone know off hand?11:26
Ronald__Schorfi: I suppose at the store they might even give me a sencible answer if I wave the euros in thier noses and say - hey pal this is yours if u can guarantee kubuntu support etc hehehe11:26
SlimeyPeteAgent_bob: in my toshiba it's on a mini-pci card.11:26
MaliqueTm_T: I've sifted through my printer settings for hours, I can't find anything on printing in greyscale. If I go to Configure in the printer settings, under Color Model (the closest i could find) it only has RGB11:26
Agent_bobSlimeyPete k.  i'll go fishing then    hopping to remove it.11:26
Tm_TMalique: no idea, I don't have printers myself11:27
Schorfias already said - it all depends on the chipset. afaik, the g220 uses a 'zd1211' chipset and it works fine, as the drivers are in the kernel11:27
SlimeyPeteAgent_bob: there's a panel on the bottom of mine which gives easy access. It's towards the front.11:27
Schorfi(i think)11:27
max__when I write in my disk scsi a large file after the command "cat /proc/meminfo" display me a lot of Cached memory.... Cached 700000 700MB in Cached, how I can resize this buffers?11:27
Agent_bobSlimeyPete yeah looking at that now    looks promicing11:27
MaliqueTm_T: Fair enough. Bloody printers :@ know anyone who might be able to help me?11:28
Ronald__Schorfi: I see pms for you are blocked or...?11:28
Agent_bobanyone know command to control fan speed ?11:29
Ronald__Schorfi: if the wlan thing is too much of a hassle - for a start I will prolly just run a bit of cable - that normally will detect a router automatically or..?11:29
Ronald__Agent_bob: we used to do stuff like that with chewing gum a bit back heheh11:30
SchorfiRonald__: yes, there shouldn't be any problems with a wired connection11:30
Ronald__Schorfi: I cant wait to get my hands on this new pc .. do you know the firm hd-computer in Berlin - they have a cool configurator sales thing -11:31
MaliqueRonald__: Have you tried using ndiswrapper? Helped me get my wlan up and running on my new laptop11:31
Ronald__Schorfi: the pretty basic box I am after comes out at about 200€ (no paid OS of course...)11:31
max__--------- I need to disable the buffer cache in linux 2.6.6 what is the command?11:32
Ronald__Malique.. I am just trying to get informed up front - will be buying the (2nd) pc next month...11:32
SchorfiRonald__: no, i don't know them ... but sounds good, just right to try kubuntu :)11:32
MaliqueRonald__: Fair enough :)11:32
Ronald__Schorfi: I have fugged my xp/vista at least 4 times trying to install a tri-boot xp-vis-kubu... just dont work...11:33
Ronald__Malique - on the other hand I c a n run the live cd to try stuff out.. hehe11:33
Ronald__Malique - but that is a bit of a bummer when you wanna right stuff to disk and save etc... the answer is the 2nd pc - which I need for other reasons also...11:34
SchorfiRonald__: ok, it's better to stay on the safe side then, with a new pc11:34
Ronald__Schorfi: right - thank Jeezus for Images.. heheh11:35
MaliqueRonald__: That might work ;) at least it'll tell you if it runs OOB. I think there's a way to get the Live CD to save stuff to USB when it loads up, like /home I think, but not sure how to set that up11:35
Ronald__Malique: not worth the bother just now I guess.. in 2 - 3 weeks should have the new system...11:36
jussi01!intelhda | Agent_bob11:37
ubottuAgent_bob: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto11:37
Ronald__ c u folks a bit later - I better do some work now.. (and not only self-training like this heheh)11:38
MaliqueCya Ronald__11:38
MaliqueSo, does anyone know how to get programs to print in greyscale?11:38
MaliqueAnyone at all, there are no stupid ideas :)11:39
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max__--------- I need to disable the cache disk  in linux 2.6.6 what is the command?11:41
Agent_bobjussi01 smart elic11:42
Agent_bob:)11:42
jussi01:)11:42
Agent_bobthanks.11:42
jussi01no probs :D11:42
Agent_bobi can find this one on my own.11:44
Agent_bob!wifi11:44
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:44
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AntSmashHey.11:51
jussi01hi11:51
RuyalarPrensihi11:51
frojndhello guys. Yesterday I installed ubuntu server and after it fluxbox. But I am NOT able to get any sound. I've installed alsa-base and alsa-oss but I'm still not able to have any sound. Can someone please help me out ?11:51
* AntSmash is also having problems with sound :)11:51
jussi01frojnd: probably the wrong place to ask - try #fluxbuntu maybe11:51
frojndjussi01: no this is the right place :)11:52
frojndfluxboy by package fluxbox doesn't bring any sound drivers...11:53
* AntSmash has two annoying problems. NumPad doesn't work, and Side buttons on mouse don't work.11:53
max__--------- I need to disable the cache disk  in linux 2.6.6 what is the command?11:54
Agent_bobwhat is sit0  is that the ath card showing up in ifconfig -a  ?12:01
linuxloverhello room, i am anindya from india12:01
linuxloveri have 2 desktop pcs and 1 laptop..... i want to make my small LAN with these three pcs. for this purpose, i am going to purchase this following router http://www.dlink.com.au/Products.aspx?Sec=1&Sub1=2&Sub2=5&PID=337 if anybody please comment over my choise (i am a damn newbie in networking, so please help me)12:05
dwidmannlinuxlover: don't forget to get yourself some cable too ... cat5e or cat6 will do nicely.12:08
linuxloverdwidmann: i want to connect the main desktop pc (kubuntu) with wire. the other desktop and the laptop will be connected wireless and i am going to use usb network adapter http://www.dlink.co.in/products/Product_temp.aspx?id=4,355 , please take a look and reply me12:14
linuxloverdwidmann: the laptop is wireless enabled. these two pcs, uses windowz as the os12:15
dwidmannlinuxlover: why connect the other desktop wireless? Keep in mind that wired transfers are 4.5x faster than wireless G's max12:15
linuxloverthen...... you are advising me for staying wired connection12:17
dwidmannlinuxlover: with the exception of the laptop, yes. (though, keeping cable around for plugging the laptop in in the event you need to do backup and such wouldn't be a bad idea)12:17
RuyalarPrensi!turkish12:18
ubottuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.12:18
linuxloverdwidmann: means, you are in support of connecting two desktops with wire and the laptop wireless12:18
dwidmannright12:19
linuxloverok.... then i only need that router only.... am i right?12:19
dwidmannright.12:20
linuxlovermay you please confirm whether the router can serve from ADSL broadband connection? because i use BSNL Broadband (it is an ADSL Broadband) in India12:21
dwidmannHow does your ADSL modem connect to your computer(s)? ethernet, usb, serial?12:23
linuxloverethernet card12:23
Dr_willisasdl can connect via serial? never seen that befor. :)12:23
SlimeyPetedoesn't serial top out at 115kbps? ;)12:24
frojndplease someone. My kernel modul for sound is loaded. How do I know? Ive tryed lsmod | grep snd_intel8x0 and the output is http://pastebin.ca/1022640 i've installed alsa-base and alsa-oss but I still can't hear any sound from headphones. (headphones are working - double cheked) Any ideas why I can't get any sound ?12:24
Dr_willisSlimeyPete,  thats what i was thinking also.12:24
Dr_willisI rember having a 9600 baud serial connection to the unix machines at school on my amiga. :) My friends apple2 couldent even handle that.12:24
dwidmannDr_willis: hard to say, never know what you might find out there so I left room for possibilities12:27
dwidmannlinuxlover:  I presume it would work fine. One way to find out though ;)12:27
Dr_willisi still rember the confusion that 'firewire' caused under a lot of disrtos  when everyone suddendly had 2 network devices.  :) one for the nic, and one for their firewire stuff.12:27
dwidmannlinuxlover: on another note, max speed I generally see over Wireless G is 2.2MiB/second, 100BaseTX ethernet is ~10MiB/second12:29
dwidmannDr_willis: crazeh12:30
Dr_willisso a 100 mb file woulkd take about 10 sec then eh?12:30
dwidmannYeah12:31
Dr_willisand I picked up a switch the otehr day - says its 'fast ethernet' thats 100 right?12:31
dwidmannRight12:32
dwidmannI've got a gigabit switch .... for regular transfers I usually don't see over about 20-30MiB/second, but that's still a worthy boost.12:33
Dr_willisYea - that was my next Q. :) i dont see gb gaining me a whole lot.. but i may be just noticeing the slower transfers oin the non GB machines12:34
Dr_willisslowly updating my wholelan to gigabit stuff12:34
dwidmannDr_willis: I took care of that back when I got the switch ... think the switch was $60 and the NICs were about $30 each ...12:35
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dwidmannNeed to find some sort of solution for my laptop though ...12:35
Dr_willisdwidmann,  yea. i finially pu a gb card in this machine..i only recently realized that built in NIC was not GB. :) and it was a Yukon chipset. which seems to have issues under linux.12:36
Dr_willisMy poor laptop - needs a GB nic for it  - but its hard to justify  the cost.12:36
dwidmannAgreed.12:37
dwidmannI think those run more like $45 ish12:37
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crs_re12:48
Sarashi12:48
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hsystemx#ubuntu13:07
frojndWhat file browser should I use ?13:11
frojndsomething that is gnome based13:11
jussi01frojnd: nautilus?13:13
Dr_williswhy use a gnome based file manager under kde?13:15
Dr_willisTheres dozens of file managers to try out if you dont like konqueror or dolphin13:15
hsystemxUse Konqueror, is better than nautilus... [opinion]13:16
Chrysalisthunar is my favorite, sorta miss it here on kde13:17
Dr_willisYou can easially install thunar :)13:17
Dr_willisIve been using ROX lately.13:17
hsystemxi 've got a question... How can i change the font color of the kicker bar?13:18
hsystemxkcontrol -> appeareance, doesnt work for that.13:19
Schorfiright-click on kicker, settings?13:19
hsystemxnop.13:19
hsystemxok thanks got it.13:20
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crsIs package kde4-core going to install completly kde4 desktop?13:26
Schorfitry kubuntu-kde4-desktop13:27
crsSchorfi: thanks, i have just found it :)13:27
Schorfihf then13:28
Schorfi;)13:28
jhutchinscrs: The problem is there is no complete kde4 desktop.13:28
crsjhutchins: Yes, i know the story about kde4. Just have been looking for package which is gonna install as a deps the rest of kde4 packages.13:29
jhutchinscrs: have fun.13:29
crsjhutchins: I wll. :)13:31
crswill*13:31
ubuntu_ae13:31
ubuntu_alguem do brasil ai13:31
Chrysalisdid that myself but had nothing but problems with kde4 and removing kubuntu-kde4-desktop doesnt really remove anything13:31
Chrysalishad to purge the core kde4 and every app one by one ;/13:32
crsIt is a testing box anyway :)13:32
crsoh, will test gnome as well ;p13:33
Chrysalismight aswell xfce too ;p13:33
Chrysalisi wish kde looked like xfce, not sure what is it with glossiness and round buttons here13:36
frojndi'm trying to unzip a file but I get somekind of a note http://pastebin.ca/1022690 How can I unzip this file ?13:37
dresnuhello. I'm using uswsusp to hibernate my laptop running Kubuntu, but when it resumes the session is locked. Is there a way to resume directly to the desktop instead of having to input my password everytime? Thank you13:45
Steve-calIn KDE System Settings, under Sound, there is an option to "Run with the highest possible priority (realtime priority)"; so what does that really mean? Exactly how is it accomplishing that?14:06
frojndHow can I use without dekstop option. I'm on fluxbox and  when I've installed fluxboy when I right click on the desktop there is only nautikus options, no fluxbox menu ?14:09
wayneandleannecan anybody remember the command to enable libdvdcss?14:09
wayneandleannesorted it14:13
max__--------- I need to disable the cache disk  in linux 2.6.6 what is the command? there are some parameters in the mount procedure?14:16
Dragonathtransferring my linux installation from one drive to another isn't just about copying it, right?14:40
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xsachaDragonath: well you could install the distro clean and then just copy your /home directory14:41
xsachaor partition rather14:41
Dragonathhmm14:42
xsachaDragonath: if you have the distro installed on both but just wanna transfer settings.. you'll find all user settings on /home14:42
Dragonathwell I have a clean hd14:42
Dragonaththat I want to transfer the stuff to14:43
xsachaall the user stuff and settings is in /home14:43
Dragonaththe thing is that right now I'm running 7.1014:43
Dragonathif I installed 8.04 on the new HD, would copying /home still work without problems?14:43
xsachamight have incompatible settings because newer versions of programs..14:44
xsachaother than that, should be ok14:44
zeno_ktorrent keeps freezing when i have >50 torrents (still dls but gui not responsive) is this a known issue? (fix?)14:44
sigma_why are the devs constantly trying to re-invent the wheel? take for instance the new "printing" app. why design it if kjobviewer did the job just fine. how can i uninstall it?14:45
xsachasigma_: but dont they all use the same backend? CUPS, KDE, ..14:46
xsachaall a printing program should be is a frontend gui.. so if it is designed different, it is entirely different14:47
sigma_xsacha: how di i delete the new one thats suddenly showed up in kubuntu?14:47
xsachaapt-get remove it, then apt-get install old one14:48
xsachaor just use adept to find printing apps14:48
sigma_xsacha: the old one is still there (kjobviewer), i have no idea what the package for the new one is called14:49
xsachahow do you run it?14:50
xsachathe command to run it is probably its name. if its a good little kde app, it will have a Help->About that explains the name, version and some info too14:52
sigma_it just opens when i print a document, lists the file name, status etc. the irritating thing is that even when the doc has finished printing it does not close14:52
mycute7한국분 있으세요?14:56
djouallahdid adept work behind an http proxy ?14:59
frojndWhat is the package for installing calc ?15:02
Jucato!kde | Steve-cal15:02
ubottuSteve-cal: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde415:02
JucatoSteve-cal: see the Kubuntu website for the KDE 3.5.9 announcement15:02
Steve-calJucato: Thanks I'll check it out now.15:02
djouallaheh Jucato thought you are off on irc ;)15:03
BluesKajhowdy15:04
rophyprob with knonqueror? help ? anyone?15:07
jimmy51vinsky Hello, I'm trying to compile gcc 4.3.0 but get the message "Building GCC requires GMP 4.`+ and MPFR 2.3.0+."  What package(s) containg those?15:07
rophyno idea15:08
BluesKajrophy, describe it15:08
rophywell youtube vedios just grey screen15:08
rophyand voice15:08
rophyvideo*15:08
BluesKajwhich kubuntu version ?15:09
jthomas!blogging15:09
ubottuFactoid blogging not found15:09
jthomas!blog software15:09
ubottuFactoid blog software not found15:09
jthomas!blogsoftware15:09
ubottuFactoid blogsoftware not found15:09
jthomas!blog15:09
ubottuFactoid blog not found15:09
rophyversion15:09
Jucato!msgthebot | jthomas15:09
ubottujthomas: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubottu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.15:09
rophy3.5.915:09
jimmy51vinskyso...  what's needed to compile GCC under kubuntu?15:09
Jucatojimmy51vinsky: try libgmp3-dev and libmpfr-dev15:10
jthomascan anyone recommend a good-for-blogspot blogging app?  Drivel doesn't seem to work for me any longer (for a few months now)15:11
jimmy51vinskythanks15:11
rophyvesrion 3.5.915:11
rophyjimmy?15:11
jimmy51vinsky?15:11
rophythe knoqueror vesrion15:12
rophy3.5.915:12
BluesKajrophy, first make sure you have konqueror-nsplugins installed15:13
rophyokai15:13
rophywell in the plugins section of knqueror settings it says that it uses the netscape plugins15:15
rophybluekaj?15:16
frojndhow can I check if my nvidida is installed ?15:17
frojndI've installed nvidia-glx-new for my fx550 if it's in the new list =915:17
rophyi have the konqueror-nsplugins installed shall i install the konqueror-nsplugins-kde415:17
rophy?15:17
BluesKajcheck by doing sudo apt-get install konqueror-nsplugins in the terminal , or you can look in adept15:17
rophyi looked15:18
rophyand they r installed15:18
BluesKajnot for kde415:18
rophyyes15:18
jimmy51vinskyJucato:  that did it.  i was scared those were gnome media player packages or something.15:18
rophythe konqueror-nsplugins are installed15:18
rophyand the konqueror-nsplugins-kde4 are not15:18
BluesKajdon't install for kde4 unless you are oin kde4 which you are not using15:18
Jucatojimmy51vinsky: and why would GCC require GNOME media players? :)15:18
rophythey r not installed15:19
rophyjustthe konqueror-nsplugins are installed15:19
jimmy51vinskyJucato: no... when i did apt-cache search the "gmp" related stuff said gnome media players.  i was sure that's not what i wanted15:19
rophyBlues Kaj?15:20
richard_still kind of new to Kubuntu...what if any virus scanners does anyone use?15:22
rjuneI practice safe computintg15:22
Picirichard_: There really isnt a need for virus scanners in Linux unless you plan on scanning windows files.15:22
richard_i am careful where I go on th internet, but what about email scanning?15:23
richard_should I be concerned about possibly forwarding something? I am currently using Thunderbird15:24
rophykonqueror and utube videos .gery screen ,help?15:24
rophy[17:24] <rophy> konqueror and utube videos .gery screen ,help?15:26
rophydear kubuntu fellowers ?15:27
rophyheelo ?15:27
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rophy[17:24] <rophy> konqueror and utube videos .gery screen ,help?15:27
frojndI've also tryed to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg but all I get is: xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration         file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080519162609    After I've installed nvidia-glx-new15:28
frojndWhat could be wrong ?15:28
BluesKajrophy, make sure you have the sun-java-common and sun-java6 installed as well15:30
BluesKajerr java-common15:30
rophyokai15:31
Dragonathmy disks & filesystems module is giving me errors - says something ir orphaned or corrupted, any advice?15:35
DragonathI need to see my sata drive15:36
home_aaaaa a server for undenet. europe one?15:37
Dragonathand figure out some way to tell my motherboard to try booting off that15:37
BluesKajDragonath, that usually happens when one DLs and installs an app from the internet and then decide to remove it15:39
BluesKajorphaned apps that is15:40
BluesKaj!orphaned15:40
ubottuFactoid orphaned not found15:40
frojndi'm trying ot glxinfo | grep direct to check if direct rendering is enalbled and I get: No protocol specified  Error: unable to open display :0.0   What am  I missing here ?15:41
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BluesKajDragonath, try sudo apt-get autoremove15:42
Dragonaththat did not do anything15:43
Dragonathit's been ages since I did a version upgrade15:43
jurgenopera under kubuntu is not showing any videos. Plugins are installed. Other browsers do play video. What do I need to check/change to make opera play video?15:43
DragonathI don't recall messing with the disks & filesystems module either15:43
Dragonathyet it doesn't work :)15:43
jcfpDragonath: is it the systemsetting module you're talking about?15:45
Dragonathyes15:45
tales_2010I installed some packets required by GTK+, but now the letters on GTK applications are all messes like that.. http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1224/snapshot2kt0.png .. does anyone how to solve that?15:46
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jcfpDragonath: filed a bug about that long ago, it was fixed at some point but apparently not. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/10927315:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 109273 in kde-guidance "kde systemsettings module "Disk & Filesystems" does not load" [Medium,Fix released]15:48
jcfpTime to reopen - it still shows this error on hardy here too :(15:50
psycohey, anyone have a good program for changing FLAC to MP3? Preferably GUI.15:50
StainlessSteelRarunning kubuntu hardy on lenovo laptop. I've seen in the past a gui interface to control (read enable/disable) my touchpad.  The applet sat in the panel.  I can't recall the name of the application though.  Any help?15:50
BluesKajpsyco, why would you do that..degrades the sound terribly15:50
psycoBluesKaj: I can't put FLAC on my iPod :(15:51
BluesKajdisposable music i guess eh?15:51
Dr_willisStainlessSteelRa,  there was ksynaptic. BUT i think its been replaced by somthing else now a days.15:51
BluesKajwhat abot wav ?15:51
BluesKajabout15:51
StainlessSteelRapsyco: you might consider installing rockbox on your ipod and then you could...15:51
psycoStainlessSteelRa: Rockbox drains my iPod battery >.>15:52
StainlessSteelRaDr_willis: yeah, I looked for ksynaptic in apt but no bueno15:52
BluesKajregular synaptic runs fine on kubuntu15:52
psycoAlso flac uses a lot of space on my IpoD XD15:52
StainlessSteelRapsyco: personally, I didn't like the interface... but I could play my oggs...15:52
psycoStainlessSteelRa: I loved rockbox but I had like a 5 hour battery life for some reason15:52
StainlessSteelRaBluesKaj: running synaptic loads the aptitude gui...15:53
BluesKajwell. if yo like flangy distorted sound psyco , be my guest ...dunno =how ppl can listen to mp3 music15:53
Dr_willisi cant tell the differance in my Kenny. G.15:54
Dr_willis:P15:54
BluesKajStainlessSteelRa, so...... ?15:54
Dr_willisThere is a TOUCHPAD tool thats has a name Similer to the package manager tools name.15:54
Dr_willisdont get the 2 confused. :)15:54
BluesKajDr_willis, puhleese ....15:54
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  honestly.. cant tell.   Wait till you are an old factory worker.15:55
StainlessSteelRaBluesKaj: well, unless I'm missing your point, I'm trying to install ksynaptic (or it's equivelent) which is the applet panel gui to control my touch pad...15:55
psycoBluesKaj: I use flac on my computer just not on my iPod.15:55
BluesKajI worked in a paper mill lab for 32 yrs ...15:55
StainlessSteelRaBluesKaj: if you are suggesting I use synaptic to find it, the I understand (but I'd done that already).15:55
psycoBut I need a good audio conversion program.15:55
StainlessSteelRaBluesKaj: if you were suggesting I use synaptic as a gui to contorl my touchpad, you are mistaken or again I've misunderstood.15:56
Dr_willisThe touchpad ksynaptic and gsynaptic tools have been replaced/updated - i recall from the  homepage of the tools.15:56
BluesKajtouchpad ?15:56
StainlessSteelRaDr_willis: searching web now...15:56
StainlessSteelRaBluesKaj: little square touch-sensative pad on laptops...15:57
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StainlessSteelRaBluesKaj: quite annoying to those of us who prefer the touchpoint (or pencil eraser) to control the mouse.  I need a way to easily enable/disable so when my wife uses lappy she can enable it and when I use it I can disable it... gui preferred for her sake.15:57
Dr_willisgsynaptics   - is the name of the old tool.15:58
Dr_willishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad15:58
DexterFgeforce 7600 on hardy - enabled nvidia driver from hardware drivers manager, next login it was disabled again. now what? need to reconf X?15:58
StainlessSteelRaI have gsynaptics installed, but it doesn't look/behave the same as the applet I'd used in the past...15:59
Dr_willissynclient can be used to adjust touchpad settings from the command line. This will work even if a GUI Preference tool is installed.15:59
Dr_willistools mentioned are ---------> synclient, syndaemon, gsynaptics, ksynaptics, and qsynaptics15:59
StainlessSteelRaI sand corrected, gsynaptic does enable/disable touchpad.  it just doesn't sit on the panel.. I will keep poking at things.16:00
BluesKajpsyco, 'soundconverter' , but you'll need GStreamer LAME plugin as well16:00
* StainlessSteelRa reading helpful link now16:00
derdui_Hi, does anybody know how i find out, which hardware i have installed? especially my ethernetadapter16:01
Dr_willisStainlessSteelRa,   some of the tools are 'applets' also - that you 'add to panel' i recall.16:01
BluesKajStainlessSteelRa, I don't understand using a name so similar to a much used package manager (k)synaptic16:02
Dr_willisbased on the name of the X driver I imagine/touchpad/company16:02
psycoAlright thanks BluesKaj16:03
StainlessSteelRaBluesKaj: take it up with the manufacturer... the hardward is the "Synaptic TouchPad"... :)16:03
StainlessSteelRas/hardward/hardware/16:04
cnstarzdoes anyone know the link to the nvidia driver problem on 8.04?16:06
jcfpDragonath: I've just reopened the bug. Please add your comments too. To see/compare the actual error, run the "systemsettings" program from the command line.16:06
BluesKajStainlessSteelRa, when i saw the word synaptic I naturally assumed ...... I guess one shouldn't assume :)16:06
StainlessSteelRaBluesKaj: honest mistake! :) trust me, you aren't the only one.  It makes searching for info challenging, as you can't just search "kde synaptic" without getting loads of blather on synaptic as opposed to the touchpad utility...16:07
Dr_willisthey should rename synaptic to 'SuperPackageUberDevice" = 'SPUD'16:08
Dr_willis:)16:08
Pici:)16:08
BluesKajStainlessSteelRa, I can imagine16:08
StainlessSteelRawhat's frustrating is that I found the little gui while I was building gentoo on a space lappy some months ago, then I installed it to that same lappy when I installed kubuntu, now I haven't got the lappy and I can't recall what the hell it was I installed... I suspect it was ksynaptic.16:08
Dr_willishttp://qsynaptics.sourceforge.net/    12/01/08 --->>>   TouchFreeze for Linux pre 0.2 and annoucing end of {q/k}synaptics16:10
mazaihi all16:10
Dr_willis'Touchfreeze' is aparently the name of the in progress replacement for q/ksynaptics16:10
mazaiwhat is a language of this chat?16:10
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Dr_willis!find touchfreeze16:11
Picimazai: English.16:11
ubottuPackage/file touchfreeze does not exist in hardy16:11
mazaifuck16:11
Pici!language | mazai16:11
ubottumazai: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.16:11
mazaii`m from russia16:11
Jucato!ru | mazai16:11
ubottumazai: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke16:11
Pici!ru | mazai then this should help16:11
ubottumazai then this should help: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke16:11
mazaiRussia is champion of Hokkey16:11
mazaiKanada is loozer16:11
Picimazai: This is the Kubuntu Support Channel, not for general chatting.16:12
Pici!ot | mazai16:12
ubottumazai: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!16:12
mazaisorry16:12
* StainlessSteelRa checking out touchfreeze... 16:12
Dr_willisStainlessSteelRa,  aparently the code for the touchpad driver in X.. is in a bit of a state of confusion16:13
jpjhello16:14
StainlessSteelRaevidently16:14
jpji'm using kbuntu 7.10. whenever i try to use add programs i get message saying that the data base is blocked. I have logged-off, reinitiated and turned off the computer, but the problem wouldnt go. Any ideas?16:15
Pici!aptfix | jpj16:15
ubottujpj: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »16:15
jpjn16:16
jpjit asks me whether I should install the packet version o remain with the current one?16:18
jpjwhat is it talking about?16:18
derdui_wich interface do i have to tipe in ettercap, i thought it was my ethernet adapter.... but it doesnt work16:18
jpjah, ok,it seems there was some uptades in somekind of limbo, i pressed y and its updating everything16:19
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jpjexit16:21
jpjthanks a lot16:21
cnstarzhow do i install the nvidia drivers?16:25
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Schorfiinstall nvidia-glx-new16:28
cnstarzgot it, thanks ;)16:29
Schorfi:)16:29
enoj_After upgrading to the latest version with FF3 beta, the Java support in my firefox broke.. Any idea how I can fix that?16:33
cnstarzi have a problem, the font sizes on my webrowsers and anything run under sudo are HUGE16:34
cnstarzthe fonts are like in 9 Foot Interface mode or something16:34
balthasar!codecs16:35
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats16:35
cnstarzis that supposed to be for me?16:36
balthasar!ntfs16:38
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubottu NTFS-3g or /msg ubottu FUSE16:38
cnstarzhooray i figured it out16:51
cnstarzhad to use kde fonts in gtk applications16:51
cnstarznvm that didn't fix it after all :(16:52
jhutchins_wkGood grief, the FF3 beta in HH isn't even a public beta - the first public beta was just released!16:53
Picijhutchins_wk: Well, you have the answer then, it was 'just released'16:53
cnstarzhooray now i fixed it, had to change the font dpi to 12016:59
balthasar_!torrent17:06
ubottuTorrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P17:06
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rysiek__re17:25
dennis_px.org and login screen have proper resolution but kde logged in and its system settings does not feature available resolutions.17:27
dennis_phow can i select the wanted resolution on the desktop without using broken kubuntu system settings?17:29
avihayb!juk17:32
ubottuFactoid juk not found17:32
dennis_p!nvidea17:33
ubottuFactoid nvidea not found17:33
_CrashMaster_!nvidia | dennis_p17:33
ubottudennis_p: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto17:33
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dennis_pthx, binary driver and 3d games work, selecting a resolution does not.17:36
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oramaqhola17:44
avihaybI've installed juk, and it dosn't play for some reason17:45
_CrashMaster_!es | oramaq17:45
ubottuoramaq: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.17:45
avihaybwith each of the 3 soundsystems it supports17:46
avihayb!il17:47
ubottuלשיחות בשפה העברית ולגישה לקהילת המשתמשים העברית אנא הקלד:17:47
ubottu/join #ubuntu-il17:47
Steve-calWhere do I go to search for known bugs in Kubuntu? (What's the URL?)17:48
_CrashMaster_!bug17:51
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots17:51
Steve-cal_CrashMaster_: Thanks.17:52
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ThRixXxhey people! can someone help me!17:55
_CrashMaster_ThRixXx: We can try. Ask your question.17:56
ThRixXxim not a kubuntu live disk, trying to fix my windows but the livedisk doesn't support ntfs ?17:56
ThRixXxim famillliar with ubuntu but only have a kubuntu cd with me...17:57
_CrashMaster_I cant say for certain that the livecd will mount your ntfs partitions.17:57
_CrashMaster_!ntfs17:57
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubottu NTFS-3g or /msg ubottu FUSE17:57
ThRixXx!ntfs-3g17:59
ubottuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions17:59
ThRixXx_CrashMaster_, do you think ubuntu hardy's livedisk has ntfs support?18:00
_CrashMaster_ThRixXx: Im actually kinda surprised that kubuntu wont do it.18:01
_CrashMaster_Are you expecting it to show up automatically?18:01
_CrashMaster_Or is it not mounting when you tell it to18:01
ThRixXxhahaha thanks man I got it working !!!!!!!!!!18:03
gkr_hi all! is there any difference between installing kubuntu, and installing ubuntu, then adding kde-desktop?18:04
_sourcemakerIs there a professional to use a WLAN card Realtek 8185? (without ndiswrapper)?18:04
ThRixXxkubuntu looks too much like windows18:04
ThRixXxgkr_, kde is only a desktop interface such as gnome!18:05
_CrashMaster_ThRixXx: So change it!18:05
_CrashMaster__sourcemaker: Are you looking for native Wireless drivers?18:05
ThRixXxCan you ? Cool I'm used to ubuntu it has a nice earthy look!18:05
_sourcemaker_CrashMaster_: no... i only whant to use this wlan card... but it is not supported?18:06
ThRixXxgkr_, can you maybe explain your question more clearly ?18:06
_CrashMaster__sourcemaker: If its not supported, you're stuck with ndiswrapper18:06
_sourcemaker_CrashMaster_: damm18:06
_CrashMaster_ThRixXx: KDEMENU / SYSTEM SETTINGS / APPEARANCE and you can change anything18:06
_CrashMaster__sourcemaker: What are you trying to do that you cant use ndiswrapper ?18:07
_sourcemaker_CrashMaster_: I hate linux for this :-) Wasting 4 days without sucess.... only ndiswrapper... but I will not use this...18:07
_sourcemaker_CrashMaster_: I have bad experience with ndiswrapper...18:08
_CrashMaster__sourcemaker: really? Ive had nothign but success with it.18:08
gkr_ThRixXx (sorry, not familiar with IRC so cannot address you correctly) was just cuirous as to why there are so many differences. Synaptic vs Adept package manager (which is awesome) keyring vs wallet etc. ts just a little confusing is all18:08
_CrashMaster_gkr_: Its all about choices. What do YOU want to use? You're not limited to only one option.18:09
ThRixXxIts your personal choice.18:09
coleyHello18:09
_CrashMaster_Hello coley18:09
coleyWhat going on?18:10
ThRixXxI suppose it's there to give people a variet to choose from ?18:10
ThRixXxThere are allso different programs created for kde, same goes for gnome.  I think they can run on kde or gnome, but will work faster on the platform it was designed18:12
coleySo what are the advantages of kubuntu over ubuntu?18:13
gkr_ohh yea, the whole gtk/qt thing. i kinda like both, but kde is running on all my machines. cant wait for 4.1!!18:13
jramskovQuestion: I'm running kubuntu 8.04 (i386) and I have installed sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-bin. I have no other java installed. I need the JRE in Firefox 3. What am I missing?18:14
ThRixXxIt's simmilar to windows and is easier for people who are familiar with windows to use!18:14
coleyI see.18:14
_CrashMaster_coley: One uses Gnome and the other KDE.18:14
_CrashMaster_Again, choices.18:14
coleyI see.18:15
ThRixXxjramskov, I think it's the browser plugin ?  You can get it from mozilla addons18:15
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OkiedudeWhat should I do now that I have kubuntu installed?18:16
emilsedghOkiedude: use it?18:18
jramskovThRixXx: I can only find a java console which isn't it18:18
bipolarIs there a way to set adept to never ask if the user wants to do a distrobution upgrade? I've just been handed a laptop that a user did this on and now some of our custom apps don't work. I want them to do normal security updates, but not this.18:18
OkiedudeWhy is it better than windows?18:18
OkiedudeI usually play games.18:18
OkiedudeSteam games.18:18
ThRixXxWhen you go on a website that requirs java firefox should show a "click here to download plugins"18:20
ThRixXxHave you tried that ?18:20
trappist!java18:21
ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.18:21
gkr_So, i have this friend. very computer savvy. he knows his way around linux more then I do as he is a server dev, yet he refuses to accept linux as a desktop replacement. we argue over this from time to time, and he insists that the linux kernal is not multi media aware and never will be. any suggestions for a rebuttle?18:21
ThRixXxtell him ubuntu is evolveing faster than windows and soon, linux  >  windows18:22
OkiedudeSo right now it is not as good?18:23
jramskovThRixXx: yeah, tried that, it can't do it and refers to java.com18:23
melkartgkr_: what are his arguments why linux will never be "multi media aware"? (what does that mean exactly?)18:23
ThRixXxDepends what you wanto use it for!18:23
gkr_ThRixXx, LOL have done, but his reply is something along the lines of critical mass :)18:23
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ThRixXxIt's easier to use windows for gaming...18:23
gkr_melkart, an example is how running multiple audio streams will bring the UI to its knees.18:24
melkartgkr_: yes (i havent experienced that myself) but why wouldnt it be fixed at some time?18:25
melkartgkr_: (because he said "*never* will be")18:25
drifgkr_: multiple audio streams - does that also refer to sequencer programs such as rosegarden?18:26
_sourcemakercan I extract the files of an rbm file?18:26
_sourcemakeri mean rpm18:27
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JoshOvki!alien18:28
ubottuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)18:28
gkr_melkart, apparently, the kernel developers are not concerned about anything other then server performance and enhancements etc. Also, each kernel point update changes something or rather which breaks other things. untill a desktop kernel is forked and maintained, deskop performance will never match the competition. .. Well, its open source so i guess anything is possible18:28
gkr_!?!18:29
dennis_pmusic makers used to need to run a custum linux kernel you can compensate with speedy hardware like windows users did18:29
melkartgkr_: given the progress that linux made in the last 5 years in being good for desktop use, i dont see why in 5-10 years it shouldnt become near perfect18:32
gkr_the way i see it. install ubuntu and you have a fully loaded PC. office, graphice, browsers, irc clients etc. Install windows and you have notepad and paint. :) I think the best thing ubuntu and other distro's have is the package manager! Still. he is not convinced. ohh well, will just have to wait, then rub it in when every1 is using it :P18:33
ali_hello18:34
hawkeyexhello18:35
hawkeyexI'm trying to make a bootable bio flasher18:35
avajj18:35
gkr_melkart, i totally agree, and since its 3:34am in melb .. im going to crash! c u all soon18:35
luigiCiao18:35
luigi!list18:35
ubottuI am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)18:35
hawkeyexproblem is, when I do a  mount -t vfat -o loop FDOEM.144 to /tmp/floppy, it works, but won't let me add 3 more files for the flash18:36
hawkeyexis there a way for me to expand that /tmp/floppy space a little bit more to add in more space?18:36
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frojndI've installed nvidia-glx-new package (since I have fx 5500) and when I run glxinfo I get: http:frojnd.no-ip.org/output/4.txt what is wrong with my X ?18:41
jcfphawkeyex: once you mount that loopback filesystem on /tmp/floppy, space there is limited to the file size of FDOEM.144...18:42
cnstarzhow do i make it so that i have to double click desktop items in order to open them18:42
jimmy51vinskyin this: "make ARCH=i686 CROSS_COMPILE=i686-linux- menuconfig" is ARCH=i686 invalid?18:43
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ThRixXx!ntfs18:43
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubottu NTFS-3g or /msg ubottu FUSE18:43
mefistofeleAnyone know of a client for bdb that works sort of like MySQL Administrator or phpmyadmin?18:44
jonorland /msg ubottu FUSE18:44
hawkeyexjcfp: so what's the fix for that? I mean I have a DVD RW to burn this into18:45
frojndI've installed nvidia-glx-new package but my xorg is weired a little too small: http://frojnd.no-ip.org/output/5.txt18:45
frojndwhat could be wrong ?18:45
mefistofelefrojnd: missing quite a bit of stuff in that xorg.conf18:46
rajiv_nairhello18:46
frojndmefistofele: yes this is default xorg.conf..18:46
hawkeyexalso, is there a way for me to determine what kind of motherboard I have?18:47
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mefistofelefrojnd: the Driver under the Device section needs to be "nvidia" to use the nvidia-glx package, not "nv"18:48
jcfphawkeyex: that's kinda hard to say without knowing what exactly you are trying to do, but if you want more space either look outside of /tmp/floppy or make that loopback filesystem larger18:48
jcfphawkeyex: and motherboard brandname and model is available via lshw (I think)18:48
rajiv_nairWhenever im copying something using konqqueror or nautilus in hardy the system becomes really slow18:48
rajiv_nairi didnt have this problem with gutsy18:48
rajiv_nairany ideas?18:49
mefistofelefrojnd: you also need to configure some modes18:49
ThRixXx!diskmounter18:49
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubottu NTFS-3g or /msg ubottu FUSE18:49
cnstarzhave you set up your desktop with nvidia-settings?18:50
cnstarzassuming you have an nvidia card18:50
frojndmefistofele: can u explain18:51
jcfpfrojnd: in that xorg config you're still using the nv driver so that answers your question about the glxinfo output18:51
frojndjcfp: just a sec fro restart x18:51
cnstarzfrojnd: do "sudo nvidia-settings" and configure your desktop the way you want, then write the changes to your xorg.conf file18:52
hawkeyexjcfp - I'm trying to flash my BIOS (they finally updated the bios, and I'm expecting another crash in 8 minutes)18:52
frojndif I put in "nvidida" I'm not able to login I have to backup18:53
cnstarzare you saying that when you configure with nvidia-settings, and restart x, the display gets messed up and you end up having to restore to your backup?18:54
frojndcnstarz: nom I haven't tryed nvidia-settings just when I change under deveice section "nv" into "nvidia" and than restart x I have to backup..18:55
cnstarzohhh18:55
frojndI have to install nvidida-settings first18:55
cnstarzyep18:55
frybye7Hi - who is using 8.04 with a usb- wireless lan stick??18:55
frybye7if so - did it work "out of the box" - which manuf. etc...?18:56
awagcnstarz: speaking of nvidia-settings, i use it to underclock my video card because otherwise it is unstable, however the settings are lost when i restart the machine, is there a way to save these settings?18:56
cnstarzwrite them to your xorg.conf, i think18:56
frojndcnstarz: when I run nvidia-settings it gives me warning that I do not use nvidida driver...18:56
cnstarzoh when underclocking, i dunno18:57
cnstarzsorry18:57
frybye7cnstarz: why do you have to underclock.. should work with normal mhz or...?18:57
slaviannhi)18:57
cnstarzsoundslike you dont have nvidia drivers installed18:57
frybye7cnstarz: sorry - wrong user - frojnd I meant...18:58
jabba_hey, i have a session i like the settings for on one machine, how do i move it to another machine?18:58
cnstarzoh ;)18:58
guilhermeblancodoes anyone know if Sony's Memory Stick works in Kubuntu by default? I've heard that this MS does not work... is it true?18:58
frojndcnstarz: erm... I do have... I've installed nvidia-glx-new and I have geforce 2 fx 550018:59
cnstarzhmm18:59
jabba_guilhermeblanco: i have one here that works, but i'm not sure we have the same on18:59
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slaviann)18:59
dennis_px.org and login screen have proper resolution but kde logged in and its system settings does not feature available resolutions.18:59
dennis_pon fx 520019:00
AyabaraI'm gonna reformat and repartition my HD. How can I take a backup of my home folder and restore it when I reinstall?19:00
guilhermeblancojabba_: do you know if it works in all linux distro's? maybe it's a module issue...19:00
jbrownhey guys i was wondering if anyone has any info on how to fix loss of sound for the optiplex 745 after upgrade?19:00
guilhermeblancojabba_: could you tell me which module it is?19:00
jabba_guilhermeblanco: i'm using hardy + kde419:00
dennis_pmy fx 5200 worked normal on LTS19:00
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frojnddamn it I didn't had installed nvidia-glx-new :S19:02
frojndbut my xorg.conf remains the same after it: http://frojnd.no-ip.org/output/5.txt19:03
frojndwhat do I have to do with my xorg so nvidia will fully work19:03
dennis_pcan i force kde desktop to switch to an x.org conf resolution without using kubuntu´s systemsettings?19:04
jabba_dennis_p: you can launch x by itself19:05
jabba_dennis_p: Xorg -config <filename>19:06
dennis_pin konsole?19:06
jabba_well you'd need to stop x first :)19:07
reisiis there any way to request new kde4.0.4 packages (with a fix for this http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161870) for huge regressions in khtml19:07
jabba_you can't launch an x server when one is running19:07
ubottuKDE bug 161870 in khtml forms "Display bug in editable text areas (forms)" [Normal,New]19:07
jabba_although you can use Xnest, but that's probably more than you want right now19:07
reisiheh, ubottu same bug as above19:07
jabba_reisi: ubottu is a bot.19:07
ThRixXxhow do i add the universe repostory19:08
PiciIts parsing out the bug link you posted.19:08
reisijabba_: i understand thanks :) wrote it so others could have straight link19:08
reisiaah, ok :) thanks pici19:09
dennis_pthe resolution works in the kde login screen but after login the resoltions available are lower then stated in x.org conf19:09
jabba_dennis_p: how do you know the resolutions are different?19:10
dennis_pha, the monitor tells the scan rates19:10
jabba_dennis_p: gotcha19:10
lewHi eve....19:10
frojndI've followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia and when I run nvidia-xconfig I got a new xorg, but when I've restarted I wasn't able to get into x. any ideas what else could it go wrong ?19:11
reisianyways; now that i have embarrased myself could someone point me to the correct way to ask for someone to build khtml (kdelibs and ??) with at least that bugfix19:11
jabba_frojnd: did you look at the error log?19:11
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ThRixXx!ntfs-3g19:11
ubottuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions19:11
ThRixXxhow do i add the universal repostory?19:12
frojndjabba_: how can I do that ? I'm running x like: startx19:12
jabba_frojnd: /var/log/Xsession.error i think19:12
jabba_lemme check19:12
jabba_hm, i don't have one :)19:13
* Josh0vki is sad as he removes kubuntu from his laptop19:13
jabba_frojnd: so when you start x and it fails, it should spit out where the error file is.19:13
Xbehavehow come ?19:13
jabba_frojnd: or you can start x manually and do Xorg >& /tmp/foo and then less /tmp/foo19:13
XbehaveJosh0vki: whats unfixable?19:13
frojndjabba_: since I'm runnig x like start x.... maybe ucan tell me the command line so I can pipe somewhere the process19:13
Josh0vkiXbehave: nothing, im sending it off for repairs but they will only take laptops that have the orinigal OS installed19:14
jabba_frojnd: Xorg >& /tmp/foo && less /tmp/foo19:14
Xbehavebackup your /home to a dvd and itll be like it never left when you reinstall19:14
Josh0vkiXbehave: already have19:15
pimCould anyone tell me what IOPL is?19:16
Josh0vkiXbehave: been doing this a long time, but its still sad to see it being replaced by windows19:16
pimI get it as an error message: IOPL not enabled, with wine19:16
* Xbehave understands your pain19:17
pimtrying to open winword in Kubuntu19:17
pimBut I only get an error message19:17
frojndjabba_: http://pastebin.ca/102295919:17
Xbehavelook it up in winehq thats more likely to tell you how to get stuff working in wine that us19:17
Pici!appdb | pim19:17
ubottupim: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org19:18
john-scotthey all, running 8.04 with KDE4, can't seem to copy and paste between KDE4 apps and GTK apps (like firefox). any ideas?19:18
jabba_frojnd: like i said, you cannot run x when x is already running19:18
jabba_frojnd: if you're running your irc client in xwindows, you'll have to stop it. (sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop)19:18
jabba_frojnd: when you do that, the graphic session will end, and you can re-launch X on your own. if you do that and it fails, you can view the error log.19:18
jabba_frojnd: if it fails to start correctly, it will tell you, and leave the details in the log (which can be very long)19:19
frojndjabba_: don't understand I have to close x season and than start Xorg >& /tmp/foo && less /tmp/foo ?19:19
Xbehavejog19:19
frojndjabba_: I'm on irssi running screen... so no need to disconnect ..19:20
jabba_frojnd: the way X works is it launches a single process that runs all your applicatiobns on top of that.19:20
Xbehavejohn-scott: try #kubuntu-kde4 or #kde19:20
jabba_frojnd: so you have to stop X manually, and then run it manually, without using startx.19:20
jabba_frojnd: if you're using irssi, it's pretty easy. Just stop X (sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop)19:20
frojndjabba_: ok jabba_ just by typing X ?19:20
jabba_frojnd: then, run X manually (sudo Xorg)19:21
jabba_frojnd: if you have a config file you've frobbed yourself, you would say Xorg --config <filename>19:21
frojndand than your command: Xorg >& /tmp/foo && less /tmp/fo ?19:21
jabba_frojnd: i'd just say Xorg and let it spit it out to stderr19:22
jabba_frojnd: it will tell you where the error log is when it dies. but X has to be not running for it to come up and give you an error.19:22
frojndk19:22
jabba_(or, not come up with an error if the config file is correct)19:22
pimI guess the best thing to do is to install it via Wine.19:22
jabba_frojnd: you said you're using nvidia-xconfig?19:22
pimrahter than opening it with wine from the windows partition19:23
Xbehaveyeah it cant eulate regitries that it doesnt have installed19:25
frojndjabba_: when running Xorg: Fatal server error: Cannot move old log file ("/var/log/Xorg.0.log" to "/var/log/Xorg.0.log.old"19:26
jabba_gotta run it as root :)19:26
frojndjabba_: ok.. brb19:26
cnstarzi downloaded filezilla off filezilla's site, but how do i install it?19:27
cnstarzit comes as a .bz2 archive19:27
Picicnstarz: filezilla is in the package repositories, it would be better to install it from there.19:28
cnstarzi saw it in there, but noticed it was an older version19:28
cnstarzi'll give that a shot19:28
cnstarzalso, is there a way to make it so that you have to double click desktop icons to open them, instead of just single clicking?19:28
hpkthe german link please19:29
frojndjabba_: http://pastebin.ca/102298019:29
hpkkubuntu_de19:29
Picihpk: #ubuntu-de19:29
max_#ubuntu19:30
el1tecan someone help me with my sound problem19:30
jabba_frojnd: and did X come up as you want?19:30
jabba_it doesn't look like it had anything fatal19:30
jimmy51vinskywhen configin'g binutils, what does AR=ar AS=as do?19:30
frojndjabba_: maybe, but there was just gray screen an dI could point with X mouse and nothing more..19:30
jabba_frojnd: welcome to Xwindows :)19:31
frojndjabba_: no X didn't come..19:31
jabba_frojnd: i thought you said your monitor tells you the resolution. and if you saw the grey screen, that's Xwindows.19:31
Dragonathhey, how is the easiest way to update my bios on 7.10?19:31
jabba_frojnd: all that other fluffy stuff like your window manager come out of startx (which is a wrapper)19:31
frojndjabba_: my monitor says resolution if I click on the menu and than info...19:32
frojndtells*19:32
el1te1st instead of having to type 'sudo command' everytime cant i just login as root and not have to do the sudo command anymore19:32
jabba_frojnd: and when x comes up bare, does it have the resolution you want?19:32
el1teif i try ' su root' i switch fine but apt-get locks dirs19:32
jabba_el1te: yes, you can type sudo -s or sudo su -19:32
frojndjabba_: don't know... its full screen gray screen...19:32
frojndjabba_: no fluxmenu whatsoever..19:33
el1teok thanks19:33
cnstarzwould anyone know how to fix the login screen's font size?  look at this:19:33
jabba_frojnd: so your monitor itself does not have a menu?19:33
cnstarzhttp://http://cool.lololcats.com/random_images/login.jpg19:33
frojndjabba_: my monitor has menu... I can change brightness position ..19:34
dennis_pjabba_: /var/log/Xorg.0.log says: (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1280x1024"  and runs at 75Hz then after login it reports (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1024x768_70" my monitor confirms while kubuntu systemsettings wrongly states "1024x768@63Hz"19:34
jabba_frojnd: but you don't know what resolution you're running at19:34
frojndjabba_: I thought u asked me anbout sudo Xorg commmand19:34
jabba_gack, are you the same person?19:34
frojndjabba_: I have the correct resolution only I don't have properly set drivers for nvidia..19:34
cnstarzwho19:34
jabba_frojnd: and dennis_p?19:35
frojndjabba_: my drivers aren't enabled19:35
frojndjabba_: what dennis ?19:35
jabba_i can't multiplex two different x questions19:35
dennis_piḿ someone else having fx5200 trouble19:35
frojndoh ok :)19:35
jabba_dennis_p: what is it you want again? i forget...19:36
dennis_pthatś ok19:36
jabba_frojnd: and what are you trying to do again?19:36
jabba_just so i have the two of you straight?19:36
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dennis_pmy resolution is ok at kde lohion screen but after login itś too low and kubuntu system settings is incorrect19:37
dennis_pmy resolution is ok at kde login screen but after login itś too low and kubuntu system settings is incorrect19:37
jabba_dennis_p: okay, i confused the two of you. sorry frojnd19:38
dennis_pjabba_: /var/log/Xorg.0.log says: (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1280x1024"  and runs at 75Hz then after login it reports (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1024x768_70" my monitor confirms while kubuntu systemsettings wrongly states "1024x768@63Hz"19:38
frojndjabba_: to have full nvidia drivers support... right now I'm on vesa or I don't know there is nothing under device section bout driver...19:38
jabba_dennis_p: and your monitor tells you the resolution?19:38
jabba_frojnd: you're using nvidia-xconfig?19:38
dennis_pthe freq19:38
jabba_dennis_p: and so the freq is correct at the splash screen but not after it launches kdm?19:38
dennis_pright19:38
jabba_dennis_p: and you're verifying this from the monitor's menu?19:39
dennis_pyes19:39
frojndjabba_: I've told u: when I run nvidia-xconfig and then restart my X I'm not able to get back t oX. I have to backup file....19:39
frojnd:)19:39
jabba_dennis_p: so, why would the kdm freq be different for the splash screen? it doesn't manage resolution... (or does it? does it set your resolution based on your prefs?)19:39
jabba_frojnd: the manual page for nvidia-xconfig gives you all the settings19:40
jabba_frojnd: so i use something like nvidia-xconfig --twinview --LeftOf --no-xinerama etc19:40
jabba_frojnd: have you used envyng?19:40
frojndjabba_: nop19:40
frojndjabba_: I don't know sync and horizontal..19:41
jabba_frojnd: frojnd sudo apt-get install envyng-core19:41
jabba_frojnd: is this a sync problem or a resolution problem?19:41
frojndjabba_: sync19:41
jabba_frojnd: and are you using kde3 or kde4?19:41
frojndjabba_: erm don't know what fluxbox is running with =)19:42
frojndI've installed first server and than programs  Ineed.19:42
jabba_oh, eeks19:42
jabba_frojnd: i'm not sure how you'd get envyng to run in fluxbox. in theory it should.19:42
jabba_frojnd: envyng goes and downloads the correct driver and builds a module for you19:42
jabba_frojnd: in my case, it figured it out well enough, and the nvidia driver doesn't build right on my system.;19:43
frojndjabba_: I haven't downlaod or install envyng yet19:43
jabba_frojnd: but you have had x working without using nvidia-xconfig?19:43
frojndjabba_: yes19:44
jabba_frojnd: so when you run nvidia-xconfig without flags, it breaks X for you?19:44
frojndjabba_: correct19:45
jabba_frojnd: so you get to play with nvidia-xconfig settings. what kind of setup do you have?19:45
jabba_frojnd: e.g., i have two displays and a twinview card.19:45
frojndjabba_: settings of what ?19:45
frojndjabba_: oh, only one screen recommended 1280x102419:46
frojndjabba_: I have just fx 550019:46
jabba_frojnd: ok, so do you want composite?19:46
frojndjabba_: I wannt just to be nvidia driveres enabled, without for rany fancy compiz..19:47
frojndrany=fancy19:47
frojndI like my computer play fast as it can..19:47
jabba_frojnd: so, let's see. nvidia-xconfig --mode=1280x102419:48
frojndjabba_: just a sec19:48
jabba_after that you can get into the fancy stuff, but does that work?19:48
frojndjabba_: let me try restrat19:48
jabba_omg root!19:48
Tm_Troot: are we rooted now?19:48
jabba_Tm_T: the intarnet superuser has arrived! :o19:49
dennis_pjabba_: my login splash picked the good setting from the xorg.conf as i upped the HorizSync to 30-86 and VertRefresh to 50-160 and Modes to "1280x1024"19:50
dennis_pjabba_: /var/log/Xorg.0.log says: (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1280x1024"  and runs at 75Hz then after login it reports (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1024x768_70" my monitor confirms while kubuntu systemsettings wrongly states "1024x768@63Hz"19:50
dennis_pyes its the other guy again :-)19:50
jabba_dennis_p: so can you delete the other mode and force X to only use 1280x1024?19:50
jabba_dennis_p: and with the requisite sync19:51
dennis_pwill try thanks19:51
dennis_pletme store this chat log first :-)19:51
gustavonareaHello, everyone. How do I upgrade my KDE 4.0.3 to 4.0.4? I've already selected "Unsupported Updates" and done a full upgrade19:51
gustavonareaI'm using Hardy19:51
jabba_dennis_p: heh, no guarantees implied or otherwise :)19:52
jabba_dennis_p: and i gotta meet a coworker for lunch in about 8 minutes :)19:52
dennis_poh great19:52
jabba_dennis_p: i will eventually return to my desk of course.19:52
dennis_pwhen will you be back? (cet 20:52)19:53
jabba_dennis_p: gmt is -0400 i think, so it would be 2000 gmt?19:53
jabba_dennis_p: i'm in washington dc, i'll be back around 160019:54
dennis_pin the meantime I´ll be watching the tv premiere of the USA show jericho as you work19:54
jabba_dennis_p: in the meantime, i'll be eating fish tacos and basking in the sun :)19:55
dennis_pah uhm :-)19:55
frojndjabba_: no I'm not able, I made a pip, while running startx: http://pastebin.ca/102301719:55
hawkeyexhmm19:56
frojndjabba_: also don't know if this is normal I can run startx only if group:user of ~/.Xauthority is root root, even thoug I run startx as NON root ...19:56
hawkeyexhow do I create a bootable cd so I can flash my bios?19:56
hawkeyexso far the documentations from ubuntu has been pretty virtually useless19:56
hawkeyexsince I'm limited to 1.44M when I need about 5M or so19:56
frojndjabba_: if ~/.Xauthority is me:me an dnot root root I can't run startx19:57
frojndnoooooooo19:58
frojndjaba is gone19:58
el1tei need to run alsoconfig but i dont see one19:59
el1tewhere i pick my actual sound card19:59
el1teor chipset19:59
jabbayarr, that's better. sorry dennis_p i gotta bail out here20:00
dennis_pthx20:00
ichigo_nl!adeptfix20:12
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »20:12
pimIn Ubuntu when I type ' followed by m it changes the m into ḿ20:15
pimhow can I change this?20:15
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tuxhi can i  ask questions about kde 4 here?20:21
tuxthe kubuntu version?20:22
Tm_T!kde420:22
ubottuKDE 4.0.4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde420:22
s_spricht jmd deutsch hier?20:26
kaminixWhy can't I run Matlab from the KMenu unless I choose 'run in terminal'?20:27
Pici!de | s_20:27
ubottus_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de20:27
s_thx20:27
tuxbtw i downloaded the latest version of kubuntu and when i wanted to install it to a new pc i get the dialog box Error BoodCD with the button to "restart"20:28
tuxBootCD20:28
tuxcan someone tell me what is wrong?20:28
BluesKajtux, windows on it ?20:30
tuxyes20:31
tuxwell before there was nothing on it20:31
BluesKajpreinstalled ?20:31
tuxBluesKaj20:31
tuxBluesKaj: at the beginning when i wanted to install it as a first and only OS20:31
tuxit makes me these problems20:31
EngelusHello20:32
BluesKajdid you install windows ?20:32
tuxnow i did20:32
tuxand it still wont work20:32
BluesKajso your BIOS boot sequence is setup to read the cdrom drive first ?20:33
tuxBluesKaj: that is correct20:34
s_my konsole and synaptic variant of kde has crashed totally, more than that: its gone, what way might offer me to apt get20:35
BluesKajtux, the kubuntu cd won't boot up ?20:35
tuxBluesKaj: i get to the language selection and when i select any language of my choice I wait a minute then i get a dialogbox with the title "Error BootCD" with the button to restart the pc20:36
BluesKajtux , your cd is obviously corrupted .. reburn to a cdrw if possible and try again20:37
jthomasCan anyone recommend a good blogging app for blogspot connectivity?20:37
s_again please whats the german kubuntu irc20:38
tuxyou sure?20:38
jthomas!de20:38
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de20:38
tuxcause i have tried it on several CDs20:38
jthomasmaybe the download is corrupted, do the md5sums match?20:40
jthomastux ^ ^20:40
tuxjthomas: how can i do that?20:40
jthomasthe website where you download it will have one md5sum; a linux machine can test the file's md5sum by running (at a commandline) bash$ md5sum /path/to/file20:41
tuxok20:41
BluesKajjthomas, a good suggestion20:41
jthomasOr, if you're trying to burn the ISO in K3B, it automatically calculates the md5sum20:41
jthomasin the burn sdcreen20:41
jthomas\\screen20:41
BluesKajhe's got windows20:42
jthomashmm20:42
jthomasmd5 in windows huh... not so sure then...20:42
tuxnp20:42
tuxill check it some other way20:42
jthomasmd5sum on Windows: http://etree.org/md5com.html20:43
guilhermeblancotux: there're md5sum calculator for windows freeware20:43
jthomasalso here http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/20:43
jthomasand others, from my google search of 'md5sum windows'20:44
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oramaqhola20:45
navetzcd ftp20:47
oramaq[14:47] [Error] Connection to Server #kubuntu-es lost: name lookup has failed. Trying to reconnect.????20:47
el1te" I'm running Kubuntu 7.04 so the directions are for KDE. From System Settings, Sound System, Hardware, check "Override device location" and point it to your digitial output device, in my case it was /dev/dsp1." where would that option be in 8.04 kde remix20:49
hawkeyextrying to find a way to flash my bios using linux?20:49
hawkeyexso far everything I tried to do has come up nada20:49
el1teall flashers use their own exe i thought20:49
jthomasyeah too often its a Windows exe; maybe DosBOX or FreeDOS?20:50
el1teno you dload a dos dislette to get you in a dos enviroment20:50
el1tethan bam you flash20:50
BluesKajel1te, it's still in system settings/sound system/hardware tab20:51
el1techecking20:51
Kein!adeptfix > Kein20:52
el1teBluesKaji dont see an actual "hardware tab"20:53
el1tei see a "drivers prefrence" and an "Advanced"20:53
el1tei mean "Backend"20:53
el1tei see a "drivers prefrence" and an "Backend"20:54
wubrgamerso guys20:54
el1teomg i cant read20:54
el1tei see a "device prefrence" and an "Backend"20:54
wubrgamerwhich forum is better? kubuntuforums.net or the kubuntu section in the ubuntu forums?20:54
wubrgameralso how do I uninstall kde4?20:54
el1teBluesKaj i see a "device prefrence" and an "Backend" <<<<is that what im supposed to see20:54
navetzis there a easy way to copy directories over ftp?20:55
wubrgameranyone?20:55
wubrgameri know ya'll know how to do this20:55
el1teBluesKaj i sure dont see it man20:56
jthomaswubrgamer: To uninstall KDE4, look for the metapackage kde4-desktop and uninstall that, I'd bet... not positive tho, and you'll be left without a GUI unless you put something else there.20:59
jthomasFor the forums, I don't know, but the Ubuntu forums are often ubuntu-specific so maybe the kubuntuforums may be a good place...20:59
wubrgamerremoving a metapackage leaves the packages20:59
BluesKajel1te, click on the overide box and type  /dev/dsp1 in the space provided20:59
wubrgameralso !puregnome doesn't work21:00
el1tei dont see an over ride box man21:00
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el1teare we talking in the same area21:00
wubrgamerthat tip only shows you how to remove kde 321:00
el1teBluesKaj K-Menu>Computer>System Settings>Sound ?21:02
el1tei see a "Device Prefrences and Backend" tabs21:03
BluesKajel1te, kmenu/system settings/ sound system/hardware/overridxe device location21:03
el1tei dont see a kmenu/system settings/21:05
el1teits kmenu /favs/applications/computer/21:05
el1terecently used/leave21:05
el1teBluesKaj its kmenu /favs/applications/computer/recently used/leave21:06
BluesKajel1te,  kde3.5.9 ?21:07
el1tekde 4.0421:07
el1tekubuntu 8.04 kde remix21:07
BluesKajel1te, go ask in #kubuntu-kde421:08
el1teok thanks21:08
DarthFrogHi folks.21:09
DarthFrogDoes anyone know how to forward HTML email in KMail?  I can only do so as an attachment, which doesn't let me edit out the From: email address.21:10
Engelus?????21:10
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chris_newhi all right now i am useing the desktop ver of ubntu and i was wondering can it be turned in to a server21:11
chris_newhi all21:12
crankcallerwhat do you wanna serve?  web, ftp etc21:13
jthomaschris_new: yes of course.21:13
chris_newweb and email21:13
_CrashMaster_!apache | chris_new21:14
ubottuchris_new: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)21:14
crankcalleryeah you could add the packages required, but lamp setup best if you have a spare box21:15
el1tewhere is the asound.conf located21:15
DarthFroge21:15
DarthFrogel1te:  All config files should be under /etc.21:16
_CrashMaster_crankcaller: Well, thats true of any web / email server setup.21:16
chris_newwhere would i get the packege ubto21:16
el1temaybe alsa dont make one there21:16
DarthFrogel1te: asound.conf doesn't seem to exist on my system.21:18
el1teyea same here21:18
el1tei think kde 4.04 screws it all up21:18
DarthFrogel1te: Try "sudo updatedb && locate asound.conf"21:18
el1tek its running 1 min21:19
hawkeyexok21:19
hawkeyexquestion21:19
hawkeyexis there a way for me to manipulate an ISO to replace the incorrect file to the correct one that I have on my computer?21:19
el1teDarthFrog dont look like there is one21:19
* hawkeyex is trying to flash his BIO, and found an Intel BIO ISO program that'll do the job, just need the RIGHT friggin' bio 21:20
Daisuke_IdoBIOS?21:20
DarthFroghawkeyex: You'll have to go to your mobo's manufacturers web site to get the BIOS upgrade you need.  Nothing to do with Linux.21:21
hawkeyexblah, darth.21:24
hawkeyexall I asked was how to extract the files from the ISO21:24
DarthFroghawkeyex: No you didn't.  But I'll tell you anyway.  mount the iso and get them that way.21:24
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DarthFroghawkeyex: mount -t iso9660 -o loop filename.iso /mountpoint21:25
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DarthFrogThen your files from the ISO image will be mounted into your filesystem at /mountpoint (or wherever you mounted them).21:26
DarthFrogNote that the mountpoint must be pre-existing.21:26
DarthFroghawkeyex: You're welcome.21:28
hawkeyexDarth: still can't get it working21:28
hawkeyexlet me pastebin21:28
hawkeyexhttp://www.pastebin.org/3713121:29
DarthFroghawkeyex:  Try "mount -t ..."21:29
DarthFroghawkeyex: If that doesn't work, I suggest you try re-downloading the ISO file as it may be corrupt.21:30
wubrgamerso guys21:30
wubrgameri just installed kde4 on my desktop too21:30
wubrgamerbut firefox is ugly as sin21:30
DarthFrogwubrgamer: There are lots of other themes/skins for firefox.21:31
BluesKajyeah, on kde4 FF is almost as ugly safari21:31
hawkeyexoh there it is.21:32
wubrgamerbut it's all gtk21:32
hawkeyexfound that stupid iso that will work.. going to burn it straight to hell.21:32
wubrgamerit's sooo horrible21:32
hawkeyexthank you darthfrog for your effort.21:32
wubrgamergtk is horrible horrible double-horrible on kde421:32
wubrgamerhwo do i fix gtk?21:32
chris_newhi all21:32
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DarthFroghawkeyex: You're welcome.  I suggest in future that you are a bit more clear in your questioning. :-)21:32
hawkeyexDarthfrog, normally I am - but this is related to that computer booting problem - this is *supposedly* the fix for it21:33
wubrgamer!gtk21:33
ubottuGTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI21:33
SSJ_GZwubrgamer: Check out http://vizzzion.org/?blogentry=81421:33
BluesKajwubrgamer, ask in #kubuntu-kde421:33
home_!kubuntu21:34
ubottuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE21:34
el1teis anyone here running kubuntu 8.04 kde remix21:35
NickPresta!kde421:35
ubottuKDE 4.0.4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde421:35
el1tei need some help i been sent to 4 different damn channels21:35
el1teim there and no jhelp in there at all21:35
NickPrestael1te, no one is able to help you or no one is available to help you?21:35
home_is there a free live cd for Kubuntu 8.04 or i must download it21:35
el1teno one is helping21:36
NickPrestahome_, you can download the Kubuntu Hardy Live CD free of charge21:36
el1tethats all i know21:36
DarthFroghome_: Yes, there is a free live CD.  but it'd be faster to download it.21:36
home_yeah but i have a limit on d/l21:36
home_i have the 6.0421:36
home_:D21:36
NickPrestaand yes, you can use ShipIt to get a LiveCD delivered to you. It takes a bit of time, however.21:36
DarthFroghome_: shipit.ubuntu.org21:37
DarthFrog!shipit21:37
ubottushipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Hardy (8.04) CDs21:37
wubrgamer!ubottu21:37
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wubrgamer!ubotu21:37
ubottuI am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)21:37
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BluesKajNickPresta, el1te is running Hardy remix and kde4 and can't find the override device location in sound system settings.21:40
NickPrestaBluesKaj, ah okay. I'21:40
NickPrestaI'm afraid I can't help either. =(21:40
el1tei just want to get my sound to work21:40
BluesKajel1te, describe your soundcard to us21:41
el1tei made it a step further by checking on display OSS devices also in the "BACKEND" area21:41
BluesKajare you gonna tell us21:42
el1tehttp://pastebin.ca/102315421:43
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el1teyes i was making a pastebin21:43
solidstatehi, how can I install what's included in ubuntu-studio?21:45
BluesKajel1te, lspci | grep audio in the terminal21:45
MurielGodoiHi, I have a ntfs partition in my sda1 which i can mount through "Storage Media" in Dolphin. My I have to type my root password every time to mount it, How can I change it to set it as automount?21:45
hawkeyexYesssss!!! nailed that bios problem.. no more random reboots. *cheers*21:46
DarthFrogMurielGodoi: In /etc/fstab.21:46
el1te00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce Audio Processing Unit (rev a2)21:46
el1te00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)21:46
el1tei want the line-in on the ac97 to be passed thru to the APU optical out21:46
el1teor everything on ac97 to be passed to to the apu21:46
el1teeither way21:47
MurielGodoiDarthFrog: which fs type should I type there? ntfs or ntfs-3g21:47
el1tekde 4.04 lets me move those 2 devices around when i select display oss devices also (checked on) but i dont think it works21:47
kunim__MurielGodoi: ntfs-3g21:47
* MurielGodoi thanks to DarthFrog and kunim__21:49
BluesKajel1te, you should set one up as the default soundcard by typing in the terminal , asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"21:49
el1tewhere do i find the exact names21:49
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BluesKajel1te, you just listed them above , choose one21:53
el1te'asoundconf set-default-card "nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)" ?21:55
dennis_pi have unmounted partitions in kubuntu 8.10, how to automount them at boot?21:56
el1tecan you pu the correct command for me21:56
el1teim not a pro21:56
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el1teBluesKaj 'asoundconf set-default-card "nVidia Corporation nForce Audio Processing Unit (rev a2)" ???21:58
BluesKajel1te,  asoundconf set-default-card "nVidia Corporation nForce Audio Processing Unit"21:59
el1tek thnx21:59
dennis_pfor ubuntu one has to simply checkmark system tools /desktop/gnome/volume_manager21:59
dennis_pto automount internal drives21:59
dennis_pwhat is the equvelent in kubuntu?22:00
x-X-xi am having trouble running fullscreen games while using twinview22:00
x-X-x i spans across 2 screens which makes it very unplayable22:01
x-X-xit*22:01
el1teBluesKaj no conigurator ran22:01
x-X-x i have been told it is something to do with my metamodes. can anyone help me ?22:01
el1tedo i need to run alsamixer or kmix again22:01
x-X-x i am using kubuntu hardy 8.10 with a go 7300 on a laptop with an external monitor attached using twinview22:01
melkart8.10 doesnt exist yet :(22:01
x-X-xoh lol22:02
x-X-xsoz typo22:02
x-X-x8.0422:02
BluesKajel1te, alsamixer22:02
el1tealsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory22:04
el1teit used to work22:05
el1temaybe the name is wrong of the device22:05
gillesmmhi22:05
BluesKajel1te, alsa isn't seeing any soundcard drivers22:05
gillesmmOn 8.04 I don't have proprietary drvers ?22:06
gillesmmI can't install the nvidia22:06
el1teit was working22:06
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gillesmmany idea ?22:06
BluesKaj!nvidia | gillesmm22:06
ubottugillesmm: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto22:06
gillesmmubottu: I speak about 8.0422:07
ubottugillesmm: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:07
el1teBluesKaj http://pastebin.ca/102318122:08
gillesmmBluesKaj:  sorry22:08
Rioting_pacifistis it possible to sync firefox3 bookmarks and kde3 ?22:09
dennis_pI´m starting to wonder why I´m trying to use kubuntu, its giving KDE a bad name everything used to work and now things broken in 7.10 are still broken in 8.4 and people are helpfull but the how-to´s simply don´t work anymore.22:09
BluesKajel1te, look for an audio driver for Hardy at the nvidia support site22:09
BluesKaj!nothing works22:09
ubottuFactoid nothing works not found22:09
BluesKaj!kubuntu doesn't work22:10
ubottuBluesKaj: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:10
BluesKaj:)22:10
gillesmmany help on nvidia on 8.04 ?22:11
BluesKajgillesmm, In Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron use the Hardware Drivers Manager from K Menu -> System.22:13
dennis_pnvidia seems troublesome on kubuntu 8.4 try sidux or debian you can keep your home folder and settings. If kubuntu doesn automatically work there is a chance it will be a lot of work to get it to work. However if it does work it´s a great OS.22:16
el1tewhy cant i get alsamixer working again22:17
el1teit was working before22:17
BluesKajel1te, you need a new driver for nvidia card22:17
el1teis there a dpkg --reconfigure command for souind22:18
el1teno it was working before22:18
BluesKajbefore what?22:18
el1tethe ac97 sound out and the optical out had a white noise sound when i tried to play .wav file22:18
BluesKajwhen ?22:18
el1tebefore this command 'asoundconf set-default-card "nVidia Corporation nForce Audio Processing Unit"'22:18
BluesKajtry some music22:19
BluesKajel1te, remove OSS if it's still installed22:19
el1tei dont think that is correct22:20
el1teshould try and get the alsamixer working like before shouldnt we22:20
ch3ch3kate .kde/Autostart/startcompiz22:22
ch3ch3dans quel dossier est crée le script?22:22
ch3ch3je trouve pas kde22:22
ch3ch3c'est ou?22:22
rogue_traderall off a sudden, the icon of my start menu changed from the kubuntu sign (the blue K) to the ubuntu sign (the red and yellow ring). how?22:28
rogue_traderand how can I change it back?22:29
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rogue_traderi run ubuntu 8.04 with kde4 as a secondary desktop22:29
nosrednaekimheh... thats weird :P22:30
o0Chris0ohow do I use "kde-tweak"22:32
el1teis there a dpkg command that reconfigures my audio22:32
el1tei dont have any sound now22:32
o0Chris0o!audio22:32
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP322:32
el1tei need dpkg reconfigure command22:33
el1tethat article you pasted dont help22:34
el1tei cant get alsamixer to work now22:34
o0Chris0oit does help22:34
o0Chris0oit is there22:34
o0Chris0o:)22:34
el1teit tells me to load the module then do alsamixer22:34
o0Chris0osudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source22:35
o0Chris0omight have to install alsa-source22:36
o0Chris0ohow do I use "kde-tweak" I installed it from Adept, but can't seem to use it22:36
* jabba returns and looks around for dennis_p22:37
jabbahow can i tell my window manager to pop windows on one side of the screen or the other? i'm using twinview, so new windows show up in the middle of the display, which for me is the space between two monitors.22:38
nosrednaekimyou can set "place" location in the kwin settings... right click on the title bar of a window22:38
nosrednaekimand mess witht he window specific settings22:39
o0Chris0ohow do I use "kde-tweak" I installed it from Adept, but can't seem to use it22:41
el1tehow can you tell which sound device "asound" is currently using22:44
jabbanosrednaekim: thank you.. where are the kwin settings? i'm on kde4/hardy.22:45
el1tei think i need to reboot22:45
el1tebrb22:45
nosrednaekimjabba: right click on title bar->preferences I think22:45
jabbaokay i see the configure dialogue, but i don't see a "place" setting22:48
jabbaah, there it is22:49
jabbaunder "moving"22:49
jabbaoh that is so much better. thank you nosrednaekim.22:49
nosrednaekimYW22:50
jabbaurgh, now kmix is crashy. :/22:52
dennis_phey jabba got a little depressed as it didn´t work22:52
jabbaoh boy. this is what i get for a live upgrade to kde4. i've got kde3 and kde4 binaries fighting for which one is correct22:54
dennis_pmhm, i wonder where xorg session resolution is saved maybe i could edit the file manualy22:54
jabbawell of course22:54
jabba  /etc/X11/xorg.conf22:55
dennis_pyeah i changed that one but the resoltion after login where is that saved?22:55
jabbai dunno, i think that's a kde setting you're playing with. my familiarity ends at the xserver.22:56
dennis_pah22:56
dennis_pthx anyway22:56
djdarkmanhow come I can`t find an option to use window decorations in the current CCSM?23:04
djdarkman(I meant emerald decorations)23:04
nosrednaekimcheck the emerald-theme-manage23:04
terrestrehow do i connecto to a desktop friend trough vnc?23:04
nosrednaekim*manager23:05
terrestrekrdc?23:06
djdarkmannosrednaekim: no option there, the problem is that I have to start emerald manually23:07
venikcan anyone tell me why USB devices (keyboard, mouse) occasionally become invisible to the system upon reboot?23:08
nosrednaekimdjdarkman: remove "compiz-kde" and then it will use emerald by default23:08
djdarkmanahhhh I understand23:08
Dragnslcrdjdarkman- CCSM -> Effects -> Window Decoration -> Command: /usr/bin/emerald23:09
nosrednaekimor that :P23:09
DragnslcrIt took me a few tries to get it to actually work right, but I think that's because I don't have a very clean install of Compiz23:10
mefistofelecan anyone recommend a good kde player for mod/s3m/it/xm music files?23:10
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Zeroc00lhi all23:11
djdarkmandammm I was looking for this in the wrong place, thanks Dragnslcr23:11
mefistofeleah, nevermind, amarok does it23:14
el1temy sound is screwed up worse then what it was23:15
el1tewhat can i do to make it back to the way it was when i installed kubuntu 8.04 kde remix23:15
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Simonftmy swap partition is messed up23:19
jabbaSimonft: what is the problem23:20
jabbaSimonft: you don't have to use a partition for swap. if you like, you can use a file.23:20
Simonftfree | grep Swap gives me this: Swap:      1650116          0    1650116, but that is only after doing this: sudo swapoff -a ;sudo mkswap /dev/hda4 ;sudo swapon /dev/hda4, and getting: darn it, i cant switch to terminal to fix it23:21
jabbayou should not have to mkswap it23:21
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jabbaif it's swap, it does the right thing.23:21
Simonftthe only think i can do on the computer right now is type in this text box23:21
jabbayou're in the command line?23:22
Simonfti have to each time i restart, other wise free   | grep Swap gives me:     0     0    023:22
Simonftno, i can't23:22
jabbayou can't what?23:22
Simonftoh wait, ctrl alt f1 works, i can do that23:22
BluesKajctrl+alt+f2  , Simonft23:22
jabbaBluesKaj: that's where i was heading :)23:22
Simonft ican clisk anywhere on the screen23:23
Simonft** i cant23:23
jabbaSimonft: so what is the problem? swap? malfunctioning cursor?23:23
Simonftim not sure, swap seems to be messing up, and now this23:24
Simonftthe computer will freeze all of a sudden sometimes too, and wil have to be manually restarted23:24
Simonftim on a PowerBook G4 if that helps23:24
jabbait's kind of hard to diagnose a system that has a bunch of things wrong. easiest to do one at a time.23:25
Simonfttell that to my computer23:25
Simonfti think it is all related, but i am not sure how23:25
el1tethe sound manager in kde 4.04 is not using asound correctly is it23:26
el1tecan  idisable the sound manager in kde23:26
el1teand just use good ole alsa and alsaconfig23:27
BluesKajel1te, which kde?23:27
el1tekde 4.0423:27
Simonftdoes anybody have any idea? i was having the freezing problem before, and did a clean reinstall, and it is still happening23:27
BluesKajSimonft, where on the disk and how large is your swap and what apps are causing the freeze up23:28
Simonftum, do you have a command to find that out? i can get to command prompt since it is open and alt tab works23:29
BluesKajel1te, I think we referred you to the kde4 support chat once already23:29
el1teyou did but that channel is dead23:29
Simonfthey, i can click again23:30
SimonftWTF???23:30
Simonftit works now23:30
el1teok im back in it23:31
BluesKajwhat works now ?23:31
el1tehope someone wil lhelp me23:31
Simonftclicking23:31
Simonftbtw, things only freeze when firefox is open23:31
Simonftclicking happens unrelated to other things23:31
BluesKajctrl+alt+F7 to get back to the desktop , Simonft23:32
Simonftim there23:32
jabbael1te: what is the problem?23:32
Simonfttotal       used       free     shared    buffers     cached Mem:           628        363        264          0         33        193 -/+ buffers/cache:        137        49123:32
SimonftSwap:         1611          0       161123:32
Simonftsimon@simon-laptop:~$23:32
BluesKajFF Beta3?23:32
navetzI am using a bash script to copy over ftp, when I run the command through my terminal it exits ftp when it is done (which is what I want) but when I run it through my script it does not exit. Can anyone please help?23:32
Simonfti think i found the problem, nothing is saving to swap23:33
jabbanavetz: it probably wants a terminal on stdin23:34
jabbanavetz: er, tty, not terminal23:34
jabbanavetz: can you use wget?23:34
navetzjabba: I am trying to upload to a ftp server23:34
BluesKajSimonft, linux likes to cache memory rather than swap23:34
BluesKajswap is a last resort23:35
SimonftBluesKaj: well, is it normal to have absolutly nothing is swap?23:35
BluesKajyes23:35
BluesKajas long as you have over 1G RAM23:35
SimonftBluesKaj: ok, have any other idea why my computer keeps freezing while firefox is open?23:35
SimonftBluesKaj: nope23:36
BluesKajFF is beta23:36
SimonftBluesKaj: under 1gb of ram23:36
BluesKajit's still buggy on Hardy23:36
BluesKaj512?23:36
jabbanavetz: both wget and curl can put to an ftp site23:36
SimonftBluesKaj: im not sure, i got it from somone esle, i think thats about right23:36
jabbanavetz: but if you want ftp to work in a script, you might consider putting /dev/null into it23:36
jabbanavetz: e.g., <ftp program> <args> < /dev/null23:37
jabbanavetz: or you can use screen. i use it to run a small apache and postgres instance from a script23:37
Simonftkonq23:37
Simonftsorry23:37
Herlazinesshello how do I start pulseaudio in kubuntu?23:38
Simonftwhat is the name of the kubuntu browser? i will use that23:39
navetzjabba: I thought of screen but then I thought that I would still get stuck because the script doesn't exit lftp23:39
Simonft!internet23:40
ubottuFactoid internet not found23:40
navetzjabba: /dev/null did the trick!23:40
Simonft!browser23:40
ubottuBrowsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), edbrowse (command-line), Opera (Qt, proprietary)23:40
Herlaziness!pulseaudio23:40
ubottuPulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions23:40
BluesKajSimonft, Konqueror23:40
rrossihi23:41
Herlazinesshello!! how do I start pulseaudio in kubuntu?23:42
rrossihi23:42
crimsuninstall it, and invoke it manually in a konsole.23:42
rrossiany news on hardy ldap-auth-client??23:43
crimsundo not start it as a system-wide daemon unless you have a darned good reason to do so and understand the security ramifications.23:43
Herlazinesscrimsun: I was about to ask how to start it as a deamon -- I guess I won't for now23:43
Herlazinesscrimsun: thanks, I will give it a try23:44
jabbahow do i change my keyboard mapping? (it was set to UK, I need it set to US)23:44
byte71how to configure ldap client on ubuntu hardy??23:48
BluesKajjabba, system settings/regional & language/keyboard layout23:49
jabbahow do i set it outside of X?23:51
byte71loadkeys us23:51
jabbaoh that's useful. thank you.23:52
Herlazinesswhat is the best way to run pulseaudio in the background, without typing in kconsole everytime I login/logout?23:52
nosrednaekimHerlaziness: putting it in autostart?23:52
nosrednaekim!autostart23:53
ubottuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. For a complete guide, see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html23:53
Herlazinessnosrednaekim: thanks!!23:54
jabbahow do i theme konqueror?23:57

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