[00:00] <dru_>  "dude" :lspci ....please...identify your sound card
[00:00] <dru_> :lspci
[00:00] <armin_> does anybody know why my system didn't change the language even if I did apply it?
[00:00] <illriginal> dru_ you're speakin to me?
[00:01] <shaffy> can someone correct this .bashrc line?  alias flash="wine /0doubly/Stuff/re. utilities/wordflashreader.src/WordFlashReader-0.99.9.exe"
[00:01] <daskReech> shaffy: use single quotes
[00:02] <shaffy> daskReech: thanks.  :)
[00:03] <dru_> lspci gives you your hardware info... but no i ment that for other dude
[00:03] <illriginal> ah ok.. yeah I read above my comment lol
[00:03] <shaffy> does an X-restart restart .bashrc?
[00:04] <dru_> "dude" is this "you" http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Intel
[00:04] <dru_> as in AC97 intel ?
[00:04] <kuroryuu> shaffy: no
[00:04] <shaffy> kuroryuu: ahhh... thank you.  :)
[00:05] <kuroryuu> shaffy: restart your terminal app or just use the command bash
[00:06] <dru_> (gotta love the cli alsa mixer) :D
[00:07] <dru_> :alsamixer
[00:07] <avihayb> how can I tell what's the best (linux) driver for my video card?
[00:08] <dru_> yeah : okay "dudes"  :alsamixer  will show you whats muted
[00:10] <ofo> salut les gars
[00:10] <kuroryuu> avihayb: what kinda card is it?
[00:10] <daskReech> ofo: hello
[00:10] <ofo> bonne soirée les gars
[00:10] <ofo> :p
[00:11] <ofo> :)
[00:11] <daskReech> !fr
[00:11] <daskReech> or not
[00:12] <shaffy> can someone tell me if there are any errors in this .bashrc line?  alias flash='wine /0doubly/Stuff/re. utilities/wordflashreader.src/WordFlashReader-0.99.9.exe'
[00:14] <kuroryuu> shaffy: is the path correct?
[00:15] <shaffy> kuroryuu: interesting.  it seems a i may need a set of double quotes around the pathname b/c it has a space in it
[00:15] <shaffy> i'm going to try it out.
[00:15] <shaffy> brb.
[00:16] <daskReech> there is a space in the name ?
[00:17] <marw> hello. http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main is in my list? how do i start update from kde 3.5 to 4?
[00:17] <kuroryuu> marw: install kde4-core
[00:18] <marw> sorry, got an error: install: missing destination file operand after `kde4-core'
[00:18] <daskReech> marw: sudo apt-get install kde4-core
[00:19] <shaffy> kuroryuu: still no luck :(
[00:19] <marw> that is it. thank you.
[00:20] <kuroryuu> shaffy: can you run the command without the alias?
[00:23] <shaffy> kuroryuu: yes.  if i put wine "/0doubly/Stuff/re. utilities/wordflashreader.src/WordFlashReader-0.99.9.exe" into a shell, it executes.
[00:24] <kuroryuu> shaffy: try alias flash='wine "/path"'
[00:25] <shaffy> kuroryuu: i did, unfortunately.
[00:26] <kuroryuu> shaffy: with single quotes around the alias and double around the path? try it again
[00:26] <shaffy> kuroryuu: this is what i've tried:   alias flashr='wine "/0doubly/Stuff/re. utilities/wordflashreader.src/WordFlashReader-0.99.9.exe"'
[00:26] <shaffy> *flash not flashr
[00:28] <paolo> is there a good graphical html editor?
[00:28] <kuroryuu> shaffy: try typing the alias line directly into the shell
[00:28] <kuroryuu> paolo: quanta
[00:29] <shaffy> kuroryuu: it worked!   but how come it won't launch as a run command??
[00:29] <paolo> thnks kuroryuu
[00:30] <enterusername> hi all
[00:30] <kuroryuu> shaffy: I'm not sure what you mean, it won't work in alt+F2?
[00:30] <enterusername> Does hardy work with ipod classics for ffmpeg?
[00:30] <daskReech> !hi
[00:30] <shaffy> kuroryuu: no, it won't.  completely puzzled!
[00:30] <enterusername> I notice psp is missing , I'm looking for a way to compile all codecs into ffmpeg and i dont nkow where to look
[00:30] <enterusername> and im using ffmpeg
[00:31] <kuroryuu> shaffy: have you tried restarting X?
[00:31] <RuyalarPrensi> !slm
[00:31] <RuyalarPrensi> !selam
[00:32] <RuyalarPrensi> !hello
[00:32] <shaffy> kuroryuu: i've restarted the entire machine several times.  i'm going to try changing the name of the alias and restart.  brb
[00:32] <kuroryuu> shaffy: if that doesn't work try putting the line in .bash_login and restarting X
[00:32] <daskReech> RuyalarPrensi: What are you looking for?
[00:32] <enterusername> hi where can i find a complete ffmpeg codec compilation for hardy?
[00:32] <shaffy> kuroryuu: thanks.  will try and brb.
[00:32] <daskReech> enterusername: apt-get install ffmpeg ?
[00:33] <enterusername> Does that have aac/h264/psp codecs
[00:33] <daskReech> should
[00:33] <enterusername> I did.. it doesnt appear to have psp. ill see if it has ipod
[00:34] <daskReech> well psp is h264 as far as I know
[00:34] <enterusername> how can i tell what codecs are in ffmpeg i forgot.
[00:34] <RuyalarPrensi> !turk
[00:34] <RuyalarPrensi> !türk
[00:34] <RuyalarPrensi> !turkish
[00:35] <daskReech> !tr
[00:35] <enterusername> -formats :)
[00:38] <ahmed> hi
[00:39] <RuyalarPrensi> ahmet selamü
[00:39] <RuyalarPrensi> !arabia
[00:39] <RuyalarPrensi> !arabic
[00:39] <RuyalarPrensi> :D
[00:40] <enterusername> hmm
[00:40] <ahmed> yes
[00:40] <enterusername> ffmpeg does have avid compiled into it for hardy
[00:40] <enterusername> xvid even
[00:42] <ahmed> il  ya  des arbes  ici ?
[00:44] <ahmed> mmm  alors  je  quitte
[00:44] <shaffy> kuroryuu: still no luck.
[00:44] <shaffy> was it .bash_login that you told me to try it in?
[00:45] <kuroryuu> shaffy: yes, but apparently you can't run aliases from alt+F2
[00:45] <shaffy> kuroryuu: that's weird, b/c one of my other aliases works in alt+f2?
[00:46] <kuroryuu> shaffy: then I'm stumped :P lol
[00:46] <shaffy> kuroryuu: same here.  :)
[00:55] <vonte> im running kubuntu 7.04 does anyone know how to upgrade to kubuntu 7.10 without using a live cd
[00:58] <vonte>  im running kubuntu 7.04 does anyone know how to upgrade to kubuntu 7.10 without using a live cd
[00:58] <kuroryuu> vonte: update-manager
[00:58] <shadowbox_> hello
[00:58] <shadowbox_> daskReech: hey man
[00:58] <vonte> Kuoryuu: how do i get to update manager
[01:00] <kuroryuu> vonte: open up console and run update-manager
[01:00] <joshual> hey folks is there a kickoff repository for kubuntu?
[01:00] <kuroryuu> vonte: *konsole
[01:00] <daskReech> joshual: A what?
[01:01] <joshual> daskReech: the opensuse menu in kde
[01:01] <daskReech> joshual: Right what about it?
[01:01] <joshual> daskReech: is there a repository for it for kubuntu?
[01:01] <daskReech> !info kickoff
[01:01] <daskReech> !kickoff
[01:02] <joshual> hmm
[01:02] <joshual> ok thx
[01:02] <Jucato> it's not packaged for Kubuntu (by Kubuntu). you'll have to search in kde-apps.org or kde-look.org
[01:03] <joshual> oh thanks
[01:05] <netshark> hi yall
[01:05] <daskReech> !hi
[01:06] <netshark> i didn`t use linux for ages
[01:06] <netshark> what does backports means ?
[01:07] <daskReech> netshark: It means the package is from kubuntu+1 but made available for kubuntu
[01:07] <netshark> umm didnt get it :p
[01:08] <daskReech> netshark: you know kubuntu+1 ?
[01:08] <netshark> do you mean like they took it from the old KDE and made modification to run on the KDE 4 ?
[01:08] <daskReech> netshark: ha ha No :)
[01:08] <netshark> no i don`t know kubuntu+1 :/
[01:08] <daskReech> there are versions of Kubuntu
[01:09] <daskReech>   Like Gutsy feisty hardy
[01:09] <netshark> is it the old kubuntu or the new ?
[01:09] <daskReech> or if you prefer 7.10 7.0 4 8.04
[01:09] <daskReech> 7.04
[01:09] <netshark> who is Gusty feisty hardy lol :p
[01:09] <netshark> i wanna use ubuntu but there`s lots of ubuntus around dunno which one should i get :/
[01:10] <netshark> thats why i`m still on Mandriva :/
[01:10] <daskReech> netshark: When you say there are lots of Ubuntus what do you mean?
[01:11] <daskReech> what is confusing you?
[01:11] <netshark> which ubuntu to get :/
[01:12] <Xbehave> netshark: are you on an old computer
[01:12] <netshark> there`s Ubuntu Kubuntu Xubuntu Eubuntu
[01:12] <daskReech> netshark: as in ubuntu or Kubuntu etc ?
[01:12] <netshark> not too old
[01:12] <netshark> P4 3.06 HT
[01:12] <daskReech> netshark: Well Edubuntu is for education. Are you teaching or in a learning environment ?
[01:12] <Xbehave> netshark:  would you prefer a simple interface or one with options
[01:12] <netshark> intel Motherboard
[01:12] <netshark> Geforce FX5600
[01:13] <netshark> no then the E is not for me
[01:13] <daskReech> netshark: the rest are just different frontends
[01:13] <kuroryuu> netshark: ubuntu if you like Gnome, kubuntu if you like KDE
[01:13] <daskReech> Which ever one you like better
[01:13] <daskReech> Gnome XFCE or KDE
[01:14] <netshark> so i must get either Kubuntu to get the KDE desktop or the ubuntu if i wanna the GNOME
[01:14] <netshark> KDE all the way man :p
[01:14] <daskReech> netshark: Right
[01:14] <daskReech> Then Welcome!!!
[01:14]  * daskReech hugs netshark 
[01:14] <Xbehave> yeah thats more than new enough for kubuntu or ubuntu? both gnome and kde are good interfaces, you can switch after a while, if you like options go with kde tho
[01:14]  * netshark high five :)
[01:15] <daskReech> hi five!
[01:15] <netshark> ok kubuntu+1 what is this ?
[01:15] <netshark> which one got KDE4 ?
[01:15] <netshark> i am still on KDE 3.5.9
[01:15] <daskReech> netshark: For mandriva you have 2006 2007 2008  Right ?
[01:16] <netshark> didn`t try the KDE4 yet
[01:16] <kuroryuu> netshark: you can get kde4 on any of them
[01:16] <netshark> am on the latest distro
[01:16] <netshark> Spring 2008 PowerPack
[01:16] <netshark> got it from mininova lol :p
[01:17] <Xbehave> kubuntu+1 will make computers explode atm probably best not to use it, kde4 isnt quite ready yet, but you can use it with kde3 apps
[01:17] <daskReech> netshark: right so the next version of Mandriva to come out we would call mandriva+1
[01:19] <netshark> aha
[01:19] <netshark> +1 men the latest one
[01:19] <netshark> just came out :)
[01:19] <daskReech> netshark: no no means newer than the latest one
[01:19] <Xbehave> no +1 is the one due out in 6 months
[01:19] <daskReech> so mandriva+1 would be mandriva 2009
[01:19] <netshark> like the RC1 - RC2
[01:20] <netshark> sort of
[01:20] <daskReech> netshark: Whenever. it's just the one that they are working on now for the future
[01:20] <daskReech> netshark: So if they do a package there and then make it available for you to download now. That's a backport
[01:20] <netshark> aha but it is still beta right ?
[01:20] <enterusername> well 'EnterUserName hits the easy button." I sucessfully installed ffmpeg with all codecs :) with compiling.
[01:20] <basy> hi whitch package i have to instal when i need to use fork(); command in my C++ application, plz?
[01:21] <Xbehave> nope +1 isnt even alpha yet
[01:21] <kuroryuu> have they decided what they're calling the next ubuntu version yet?
[01:21] <daskReech> netshark: The overall thing? yes
[01:21] <netshark> oh so that means use it then report to us right :1 i`ll test it for them right ?
[01:21] <daskReech> Xbehave: He's trying to get the concept not the current state :)
[01:21] <daskReech> assuming that netshark is a he
[01:22] <Jucato> !backports
[01:22] <netshark> yeah he :p
[01:23] <netshark> oh got it now :)
[01:24] <netshark> so i must enable the backports because its a good thing but when something crash i report it then uninstall it immediately and get a stable not backport version :)
[01:24] <daskReech> netshark: good man!
[01:24] <netshark> man KDE4 owens MAC BIG TIME
[01:24] <netshark> i`ve tested the MAC OSX 10.4 the Tiger distro
[01:25] <netshark> it sucks big time its boring :(
[01:25] <daskReech> So stable not crashing. Lots of options
[01:25] <daskReech> I'd hate it too :)
[01:25] <netshark> they say Leopard is better but nothing compares to Linux :)
[01:25] <Xbehave> netshark: no backports is mainly for critical fixes,
[01:25] <netshark> LINUX RULES !!! :)
[01:25] <Xbehave> theres propose repository for untested software but even that is fairly stable
[01:26] <netshark> Xbehave: like the auto updates in winsucks (windows) ?
[01:27] <vale> salve
[01:27] <netshark> kewl
[01:28] <netshark> anyway guys which is the best MP3 player like Winamp ?
[01:28] <Xbehave> netshark: yeah i think they backport some but mainly once they release a version  they stabalise it for a month then go on to the next version
[01:28] <daskReech> !mp3
[01:28] <daskReech> !audio
[01:28] <netshark> xmms is working but it sucks i can`t read the fonts :(
[01:28] <daskReech> !players
[01:28] <Xbehave> netshark: you can make xmms twice as big IIRC
[01:29] <Xbehave> beep is also good
[01:30] <netshark> Xbehave: it seems that i`ve only chosed the player itself i didn`t chose the other optional stuff :) i`ll see that thanks guys :)
[01:30] <netshark> daskReech Xbehave thanks alot for the help guys :)
[01:30] <Xbehave> np
[01:31] <kuroryuu> ah, they have named the next release, Itrepid Ibex
[01:31] <daskReech> netshark: beep is also good
[01:31] <daskReech> kuroryuu: Yep
[01:36] <o0Chris0o> does kubuntu have a version of winrar or something close to that?
[01:37] <fildo\a> back.
[01:38] <o0Chris0o> !welcome | fildo\a
[01:38] <Jucato> o0Chris0o: if you have rar and unrar installed, Ark can handle rar files
[01:38] <kuroryuu> o0Chris0o: sudo apt-get install unrar rar
[01:38] <o0Chris0o> ty ty
[01:41] <daskReech> wait
[01:41] <daskReech>  you can install rar now?
[01:46] <Jucato> daskReech: "now"?
[01:46] <Jucato> !info rar
[01:46] <daskReech> Wasn't it restricted or you had to pay for it or something?
[01:46] <daskReech>  it was in breezy
[01:46] <Jucato> well it's still in multiverse if that's what you mean
[01:51] <Jamenai> moin
[01:56] <farchord> man, gotta admit, I'm happy to have found a mirror close to me for ubuntu repos.... ca.archive.ubuntu.com was getting dang'd slow
[02:06] <epimeth> ahoy everybody!
[02:06] <daskReech> hey
[02:07] <eric> hey everyone - new to ubuntu this weekend - trying to figure out why im unable to move files into the File System folders
[02:07] <epimeth> what up?
[02:07] <epimeth> eric: where are you trying to copy them to, exactly
[02:07] <epimeth> ?
[02:08] <eric> epimeth: for example, wallpapers to the /usr/share/backgrounds or /theme folders
[02:09] <epimeth> eric: you might not have permission to write to those folders
[02:10] <daskReech> eric: You need to be root to write in there
[02:10] <epimeth> eric: the filesystem is permission based, meaning that each folder has an owner part, a group part, and an "all users" part
[02:10] <farchord> eric use sudo
[02:10] <epimeth> each set of permissions has read, read, and execute
[02:11] <farchord> *read, write and execute
[02:11] <epimeth> so while you, as an "all users" user might have permission to read, and execute within certain folders, you might not have write permissions
[02:11] <epimeth> yes, thanks daskReech
[02:11] <epimeth> erm, farchord
[02:11] <farchord> lol
[02:12] <epimeth> so yes, you will probably want to use sudo... but you might just want to set write permission for that folder as it doesn't seem like those folders are that important
[02:13] <farchord> epimeth: might be good to mention too, for wallpapers and themes, I do think you can sit it somewhere on your home dir, just not too sure on the specifics
[02:14] <Jucato> epimeth: it's not a good idea to change permissions for system folders
[02:14] <epimeth> Jucato: well I was waiting for him to reply before I gave him that warning
[02:15] <epimeth> but seriously... the *background* folder?
[02:15] <eric> sorry - thanks everyone, just been trying to get write permissions
[02:16] <epimeth> eric: don't do that... just use sudo.  like Jucato said, its bad to get into the habbit of changing permissions to system folders
[02:16] <farchord> eric: Changing permissions on system folders, in a simple comparison, is like building a big sign on your computer saying "Please attack me"
[02:17] <Jucato> eric: you shouldn't be doing anything in system folders anyway unless you want them to apply to any and all users. if you just want to add a wallpaper for yourself, you can do that safely in your own home directory
[02:17] <Dr_willis> I always have my own /home/username/WallPaperAndIcons Directory.
[02:17] <eric> ok thanks
[02:17] <farchord> np
[02:19] <epimeth> nw
[02:19] <farchord> Man I <3 last.fm
[02:19] <epimeth> anyhoo.. I gotta run boys.  catch you later
[02:20] <farchord> cy@
[02:25] <Agent_bob> what's the avarage runtime on laptop batteries ?
[02:26] <daskReech> Agent_bob: that's a non question
[02:26] <daskReech> Too many varaibles
[02:26] <daskReech> lets say under 5 hours :)
[02:26] <daskReech> hopefully over 20 minutes
[02:26] <farchord> don't know the actual numbers, and it depends on your activity, but considering you use in avg less CPU cycles than in Windows, I would guess it lasts longuer
[02:27] <Agent_bob> daskReech avarage kinda takes in the variables doesn't it ?
[02:27] <daskReech> Agent_bob: nuh uh
[02:27] <daskReech> there are variance on the variables which gives a statisical spread average
[02:28] <daskReech> Agent_bob: The simple one line answer is 2 hours
[02:28] <Agent_bob> daskReech thankyou.
[02:29] <Dr_willis> I would be  lucky to get a full 2 hrs on any laptop ive ever had.
[02:30] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis hmmm then i think i'm ok with a first test of 1:50 without low battery warning  ?
[02:30] <daskReech> Dr_willis: I know
[02:30] <Dr_willis> 2 min warning?  That would be cutting it close. :) id set it for at least 5 to 10 min warning.
[02:30] <Agent_bob> 10
[02:32] <nflava> does anyone happen to know if i can install the GNU Complier through the add and remove programs menu in kubuntu?
[02:32] <nflava> im not good with the make configur and install stuff
[02:33] <Agent_bob> !build-essential | nflava
[02:33] <Agent_bob> !info build-essential
[02:33] <nflava> hm
[02:34] <nflava> so there is a list that will tell me if there is the GNU complier
[02:34] <Agent_bob> install "build-essential"   it will tell apt what else you need.
[02:35] <Agent_bob> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[02:35] <nflava> and that is through the apept installer
[02:35] <nflava> ah
[02:36] <nflava> ah sudo command
[02:36] <nflava> lets see whats this will do
[02:36] <nflava> thanks Agent_bob
[02:36] <Agent_bob> welcome.
[02:37] <Agent_bob> and is avatage recharge time longer or shorter than avarage run time ?
[02:38] <nflava> hmm..unable to lock the administration directory
[02:38] <farchord> nflava: you got a program using the apt system
[02:38] <Jucato> nflava: you have to close Add/Remove programs
[02:38] <Agent_bob> it tells you why nflava
[02:38] <nflava> ah duh
[02:39] <nflava> there we go
[02:39] <nflava> doin something now
[02:39] <nflava> then after this i need to do the automake install?
[02:40] <Agent_bob> after this you have the gnu compiler "gcc" installed.  along with various other source building tools.
[02:41] <Jucato> depends on what is required by the source you are compiling
[02:41] <Jucato> it may need some other build system. you will have to find out for yourself (see the link given by Agent_bob for tips)
[02:42] <Agent_bob> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[02:42] <farchord> nflava: normally a good essential, do sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:42] <artur_> how can i open a .mht file in the firefox?
[02:42] <Agent_bob> mht looks like a typo of htm
[02:42] <Agent_bob> rename it to .htm
[02:42] <Agent_bob> ?
[02:43] <tehcactus> can anyone help me with my video card problem?  i'm stuck at the console right now, x won't start
[02:43] <tehcactus> i just ran envyng
[02:44] <Alethes> is there a bug that prevents resizing of the external taskbar panel?
[02:44] <artur_> Agent_bob: doesn't work correctly.
[02:44] <Alethes> I always have the "normal" size and I can't get it down to small
[02:45] <Jucato> Alethes: the Configure Panel dialog is only showing the Main Panel?
[02:45] <Alethes> yeah
[02:45] <Alethes> wait
[02:45] <Alethes> let me double check
[02:45] <Alethes> yep
[02:45] <Agent_bob> tehcactus i can get you in a gui.  but probably not help with your issue.      edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and change the   >>> driver       "nvidia" <<<  or >>> driver      "ati" <<<   to >>> driver     "vesa" <<<  save it and   "startx"
[02:46] <Jucato> Alethes: I think you need to restart kicker to update the dialog box to show External taskbar too. Alt+F2, "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[02:46] <Alethes> okl
[02:46] <tehcactus> Agent_bob: thanks
[02:46] <Alethes> let me give it a shot
[02:46] <tehcactus> Agent_bob: will try that now
[02:46] <Alethes> Jucato: there it is :)
[02:48] <Alethes> heh
[02:48] <Alethes> I themed my kde 3.59 to look as much like kde4 as possible
[02:48] <Alethes> not because it was a worthwhile thing to do, but because I can :D
[02:49] <Jucato> :D
[02:49] <daskReech> That's like themeing Xp to look like Vista :)
[02:49] <daskReech> ... a lot like it actually  :)
[02:49] <Alethes> http://www.lunt.ca/kde4-3.png
[02:49] <Alethes> it's an old version of oxygen, but still
[02:50] <Agent_bob> daskReech i made vesta look like win 3.1    does that count ?
[02:50] <tehcactus> Agent_bob: that worked, but when I ran startx before changing to vesa, it said unable to load NVIDIA module, any ideas?
[02:50] <Alethes> obviously not the exact same thing, but it's kinda cool anyway
[02:50] <farchord> Alethes: not bad.... I'm sticking with KDE3 here
[02:51] <daskReech> Agent_bob: no. That's impressive but also quite sad
[02:51] <Alethes> hehe
[02:51] <Alethes> I'm planning to upgrade to 4.1 when it's available
[02:51] <Agent_bob> tehcactus no.  sorry, you'll have to get someone else to help with the nvidia driver    i tried to install a driver for my nv card so i could learn about it.   i only learned that my card is not supported.
[02:52] <Agent_bob> daskReech not impossable.   win 3.1 hit the trash can many years ago.   now vesta looks just like it...    in the bottom of the trash can... :)
[02:53] <Alethes> my wife has vista and loves it
[02:53] <Alethes> I can't seem to convince her to switch to linux :/
[02:53] <tehcactus> Agent_bob: thanks for getting me this far
[02:55] <daskReech> Agent_bob: ha ha you should empty your trash
[02:56] <nflava> is there one of those sudo commands to install pkg-config?
[02:56] <Agent_bob> hmmm but all i've thrown away is one stack of install floppys for win 3.1 and one oem vesta disk ...
[02:57] <kuroryuu> nflava: sudo apt-get install pkg-config
[02:57] <Agent_bob> !info pkg-config
[03:00] <Agent_bob> synopsis: sudo runs whatever follows it as SuperUser, apt-get is an apt tool for fetching packages from the "repos" and installing them, or for removing them from the system.  install tells apt-get which to do,   and; last but not least, pkg-config is the name of the package you want installed.
[03:01] <Agent_bob> nflava from hence forth  you should only need to know the name of the package...   the command has been explained  ;/
[03:03] <Hawkeye-X> ok - remind me
[03:03] <Hawkeye-X> how do I make my kernel change to include pci=noacpi permanent?
[03:03] <Hawkeye-X> I know it had to do with editing the boot stuff
[03:04] <nflava> you guys are great, thanks for all the help, this time im gunna really try to stay in kubuntu and not go back to windows
[03:04] <Agent_bob> Hawkeye-X add it in the defaults section of /boot/grub/menu.lst  ?
[03:04] <Jucato> Hawkeye-X: put it in the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:04] <nflava> i always end up going back cause i cant get everything i do in windows
[03:04] <nflava> but im gunna hold out
[03:05] <Agent_bob> Jucato that's not permenant though ?      first kernel update it's to do again
[03:05] <farchord> nflava: worse case scenario I know how to cheat without actually it counting as 'cheating'
[03:05] <farchord> nflava: http://www.virtualbox.org
[03:05] <Jucato> Agent_bob: most likely. not familiar with grub either :)
[03:05] <Hawkeye-X> Juca: much appreciated
[03:05] <Hawkeye-X> had an acpi problem earlier and I'm going to confirm if it is the same problem..
[03:06] <Hawkeye-X> brb
[03:06] <farchord> Anyone know if they intend on fixing the USB problems on NF4 motherboards?
[03:06] <farchord> When I shutdown from linux, my USB keyboard is still lit up
[03:07] <nflava> well now i have the requiremtns for this thing i wanaa install, now time to try to get the UPnP library installed
[03:07] <Agent_bob> !find upnp
[03:07] <nflava> can i do a sudo install for something called libupnp
[03:07] <nflava> oooh
[03:08] <nflava> i need 1.42 or later
[03:08] <Agent_bob> !info libupnp1
[03:08] <nflava> hm
[03:08] <Agent_bob> oh.. ok.
[03:09] <nflava> im tryin to work from this page for this software
[03:09] <nflava> http://ushare.geexbox.org/#Requirements
[03:09] <Agent_bob> !info libupnp0
[03:09] <Agent_bob> !info libupnp
[03:09] <Agent_bob> i wonder why hardy doesn't have it ?
[03:10] <Hawkeye-X> confirmed - it's still saying it's missing a DSDT.aml file
[03:10] <nflava> think i can just do sudo apt-get install libupnp ?
[03:10] <Hawkeye-X> I'm not exactly sure what it is
[03:10] <Hawkeye-X> !find n64
[03:10] <Agent_bob> nflava i was hoping you could.  but alas no.
[03:11] <nflava> darn
[03:11] <nflava> i guess ill try to download from the sorceforge page they link to
[03:11] <nflava> it has libupnp1.6.6
[03:12] <Agent_bob> !find ushare
[03:12] <Agent_bob> !info ushare
[03:12] <nflava> ooh
[03:12] <Agent_bob> nflava why not install that ^
[03:12] <nflava> could that work with an xbox 360
[03:12] <nflava> thats all i am trying for
[03:13] <nflava> cause i do that all the time in windows with something called tversity
[03:13] <Agent_bob> that is what you were trying for from the page you posted    no?
[03:13] <nflava> yeah pretty much
[03:13] <nflava> i just didnt know that ushare exsisted lol
[03:14] <nflava> i guess it installed
[03:14] <nflava> now i have to find it
[03:14] <Agent_bob> same version    ^   so you were wasting your time...    from now on   search the package database first
[03:14] <Agent_bob> !packages
[03:15] <Daisuke-Laptop> ah, also known as the instant-egg-frying processor
[03:15] <nflava> nice, im gunna save that link
[03:15] <Daisuke-Laptop> wow.  that was in the absolute wrong channel
[03:15] <Agent_bob> absolute ?   are you sure ?
[03:16] <nflava> now would that install put ushare in the "start" menu
[03:16] <Daisuke-Laptop> wrong network as wlel
[03:16] <Daisuke-Laptop> well*
[03:17] <Agent_bob> nflava if it has a gui and you have "menu" installed   it should  yes.
[03:17] <personal> aja
[03:17] <Agent_bob> Daisuke-Laptop ah   then there are absolutes out there.   i just found one...
[03:17] <nflava> i dont think i ever installed something called menu
[03:18] <Daisuke-Laptop> Agent_bob: here's another: "Windows ME is the absolute worst OS ever"
[03:18] <Agent_bob> nflava may be installed by default.  i really don't know.   i haven't seen default in 3 years.
[03:18] <Agent_bob> :)
[03:18] <nflava> hehe
[03:19] <nflava> can i do a sudo install menu?
[03:19] <_CrashMaster_> Microsoft stopped admitting there ever WAS a WinME
[03:19] <Agent_bob> Daisuke-Laptop heh.   i might argue with you on that     ever try "plan9"  :)))
[03:19] <nflava> sorry for so many questions by the way but you are helping a whole lot
[03:19] <Jucato> and why are we talking about Windows and Plan9 here?
[03:19] <meth|> i got rid of my kubuntu partition and now I get a grub error 22 when I boot my computer. how can I fix it?
[03:19] <Agent_bob> nflava you have my permission  yes :)
[03:19] <meth|> i dont have a windows recovery cd
[03:20] <_CrashMaster_> Jucato: We're preaching to the heathens.
[03:20] <nflava> hehe
[03:20] <meth|> is there a way I can fix it using the kubuntu live cd?
[03:20] <Jucato> _CrashMaster_: more like to the choir...
[03:20] <Agent_bob> Jucato ^5
[03:20] <Jucato> Agent_bob: too high.. can't reach :/
[03:20] <_CrashMaster_> Jucato: Knowing some of the choir girls that I do, it might not be such a bad idea :)
[03:20] <nflava> ok looks like i have menu installed now
[03:20] <nflava> lets see if i can find ushare
[03:22] <Agent_bob> nflava Jucato can correct/redirrect on this.  but you may have to configure kde to show the debian menu     (which "menu" installs)
[03:22] <Jucato> Agent_bob: can't correct you on something I don't know about :)
[03:22] <nflava> hm that sounds like it will be fun...
[03:23] <Agent_bob> Jucato the kmenu show the debian menu by default when installed ?
[03:23] <Jucato> afaik yes
[03:23] <Agent_bob> k
[03:23] <Agent_bob> nflava look in the kmenu for debian
[03:24] <Agent_bob> i think.   may rename to    "more apps"   or something fishy like that
[03:24] <nflava> ok ill look for debian
[03:24] <Agent_bob> if i used kde more often i might remember these things
[03:25] <nflava> i dont really see any item that says debian in the Kmenu at all
[03:25] <Vzla> alguien q hable castellano
[03:25] <Agent_bob> nflava anyway  when found it should have a submenu with all the installed apps that have any form of a gui about them   and some things that don't have
[03:26] <Agent_bob> !ve
[03:26] <Agent_bob> !pt
[03:27] <Agent_bob> !es
[03:27] <nflava> i dont need to like reboot or anything to see this debian do i
[03:27] <Agent_bob> no
[03:27] <Jucato> nflava: try running this command: "kbuildsycoca"
[03:27] <Vzla> gracias
[03:27] <Agent_bob> denada
[03:28] <Steve-cal> In the KDE System Settings, under Sound, I can enable it to "run with the highest possible priority (realtime priority)"--what does this mean? Is it supposed to change the priority of certain running processes related to audio?
[03:28] <nflava> its says....
[03:29] <Agent_bob> nflava don't flood !
[03:29] <nflava> just 2 lines
[03:29] <Agent_bob> !flood | nflava
[03:29] <nflava> says its running then reusing exsisting ksycoca
[03:29] <Agent_bob> anyway the output is unimportant.   it should have updated your kmenu
[03:30] <nflava> menu seems the same
[03:31] <Agent_bob> nflava i thought it would.  but it might have needed updated.      who knnws.      anyway right click the kmenu and configure it    show all
[03:32] <Agent_bob> the kmenu button has a very small ^ in the corner you can use for that  iirc
[03:33] <nflava> ok i see debian in the menu editor
[03:33] <nflava> so now i need to show all
[03:33] <Agent_bob> or show debian
[03:34] <Agent_bob> :)
[03:34] <Agent_bob> it shows all
[03:35] <Agent_bob> one reason i like that submenu   it's de independant.   same on gnome as it is in kde or blackbox
[03:36] <Agent_bob> if you have several desktops installed in your system  you can have a universal menu for them
[03:36] <nflava> hmm still didnt get it to show debian in the kmenu, still looking
[03:37]  * Agent_bob <blinks> <hides> "oops" </hides> </blinks>
[03:37] <nflava> heh im great in windows but this kubuntu can really show you who the boss is lol
[03:38] <Agent_bob> nflava lol   i'm the opsite.   can't force windows to do anything i want it to do...
[03:39] <nflava> ok so hmm
[03:39] <nflava> i can now see debian, i had to add a submenu to it
[03:40] <nflava> so i made one called ushare but how do i find out where that installed to when i did the apt-get install
[03:40] <o0Chris0o> where do I find my .asoundr ? I can't seem to locate it
[03:40] <linuxlover> hello room
[03:40] <Agent_bob> nflava ?       sudo update-menus
[03:41] <Agent_bob> see if that adds all apps to the debian sub
[03:41] <nflava> nope, still just the ushare i made
[03:41] <nflava> that doesnt do anything when i click on it lol
[03:41] <nflava> i guess cause i dont know where the work parh is
[03:41] <Agent_bob> that's not right.   what's broke there ?
[03:42] <nflava> its a fresh install, just did it last night
[03:42] <Agent_bob> nflava the working path will probably be /usr/bin/
[03:42] <linuxlover> i have 3 pcs. (2desktops + 1 laptop), i want to go wireless connection between them. what hardwares should i need? i am a newbie in networking world
[03:43] <Agent_bob> but you should NOT need to manually add to the debian menu.   that's not normal...
[03:43] <nflava> uh o
[03:43] <_CrashMaster_> linuxlover: you'll need 2 usb or pci wireless adapters, and a wireless router.
[03:43] <nflava> i guess ill just remove what i made for now
[03:44] <_CrashMaster_> linuxlover: You'll also need a 6-pack of your local nerd's favorite beer, as bait.
[03:44] <nflava> hmmm something might be going on now...
[03:45] <nflava> after i loaded the command and the work path for ushare from the usr/bin folder
[03:45] <_CrashMaster_> linuxlover: Lure him over with the promise of free beer, then show him the hardware. No true nerd can resist setting up a home network.
[03:45] <nflava> and saved....well never mind, i thought something was going to start but it didnt
[03:46] <linuxlover> :-)
[03:46] <nflava> i need to reboot for this update i did a little bit ago
[03:46] <Agent_bob> nflava you can start the app from the command line  for now to see if it has a gui   i personally know nothing about ushare
[03:46] <nflava> maybe that will help my situation
[03:47] <Agent_bob> !tab
[03:47] <nflava> and just start it by navagating to the usr/bin folder?
[03:47] <el1te> i got a couple questions about kubuntu 8.04 remix and an nforce2 mb with soundstorm alc650 i think it is
[03:47] <Agent_bob> could  but i'd use   a konsole so you can see any text output
[03:47] <linuxlover> CrashMaster: should i connect my broadband with that router using cable?
[03:48] <linuxlover> or to change my broadband modem also?
[03:48] <nflava> yeah i meant to say in the console, i guess navagate was no tthe best word to use heh
[03:48] <_CrashMaster_> linuxlover: Yes. The cable coming out of your dsl/cable modem should feed into the WAN (or Internet) port on the wireless router.
[03:48] <el1te> i have 2 computers 1 (my windows gaming computer) scard stereo goes to my #2 linux box line-in jack...i then have optical out goto my home theatre
[03:48] <Agent_bob> konsole != console    and gnome's "console" != console either.
[03:48] <el1te> how do i turn on the line in and optical out
[03:48] <_CrashMaster_> Agent_bob: Really? Please elaborate.
[03:49] <el1te> so when i play music/games it goes from my windows pc to the linux box to the home theatre optical in
[03:49] <nflava> hm, how do i go back a directory, not cd .. like dos
[03:49] <_CrashMaster_> Agent_bob: Or are you nitpicking "shell" vs "console"
[03:49] <el1te> i got a more important problem then trying to "CD" into a dir
[03:49] <el1te> come on
[03:50] <_CrashMaster_> nflava: You have to put a space betwee "cd" and ".."
[03:50] <nflava> damn i thought i did that
[03:50] <linuxlover> CrashMaster: in this way, may i switch on any one of my computers and use internet keeping the other two machines switch off?
[03:50] <nflava> my bad
[03:50] <Agent_bob> gnome's "console" and konsole are terminal emulators for the x-window environment    the console is the tty thingys found at "alt+ctrl+f1"   through "alt+ctrl+f7"  7 normally hosting the x server
[03:50] <_CrashMaster_> linuxlover: yes.
[03:50] <Agent_bob> _CrashMaster_    ^
[03:51] <Agent_bob> s/hosting/running/
[03:51] <_CrashMaster_> Agent_bob: nifty!
[03:51] <nflava> be right back
[03:52] <Agent_bob> nflava yes  cd ..    is up one dir
[03:52] <linuxlover> CrashMaster: which product should I buy? http://www.dlink.co.in/products/Product_temp.aspx?id=4,287 or http://www.dlink.co.in/products/Product_temp.aspx?id=4,356
[03:53] <alucardromero> Anybody know the solution to the KDE/laptop/screensaver/brightness issue?
[03:53] <Agent_bob> cd / is the root dir    cd   or   cd ~   or   cd $HOME     all take you to your home dir
[03:53] <_CrashMaster_> linuxlover: Either will work, but the first one is niftier
[03:54] <_CrashMaster_> linuxlover: But get a USB one, unless you dont mind taking your PC apart.
[03:56] <linuxlover> CrashMaster: may you please give me for the product link of that usb adapter (D-Link manufactured) and also the router?
[03:56] <nflava> ok back....what an amazing reboot, everything i was using came right back on the desktop :)
[03:56]  * Agent_bob feels like trolling channel #ubuntu and saying >>>why does the "console" button in the menu not take me to a console ?     it only opens a terminal emulator.<<<  but probably wont.
[03:56] <_CrashMaster_> linuxlover: I guess so. Normally I'd say do the research yourself, but I'm bored so why not. Why do you want DLINK products?
[03:57] <nflava> and now there is apparently a graphic card driver problem
[03:57] <_CrashMaster_> Agent_bob: Is there any advantage to using the "true" console instead of an emulator?
[03:57] <linuxlover> because it is easily available in our small local market
[03:57] <_CrashMaster_> linuxlover: Ah. ok. Give me a few moments.
[03:57] <_CrashMaster_> 2 desktops and 1 laptop, right?
[03:57] <linuxlover> CrashMaster:ok..... Yes, but the laptop has a inbuild wireless card
[03:58] <_CrashMaster_> ok
[03:58] <Agent_bob> _CrashMaster_ they are not == so yes and no.  both have their place.    i haven't started xorg today personally   so all i've seen is consoles...
[03:58] <_CrashMaster_> Agent_bob: I see. Do you have some recommended reading on the subject?
[03:59] <Agent_bob> nothing in particular.  but there are plenty of pages that google can find
[03:59] <Agent_bob> !cli | _CrashMaster_
[04:01] <MHz128> Does the emerald-theme package require a special repo?
[04:01] <MHz128> I can't find it anywhere
[04:01] <nflava> hmm with the reboot, seems there is a problem with my nvidia drivers
[04:02] <Agent_bob> _CrashMaster_ there are a few things that it's much easer to do in a gui   like photo/vidio editing for example,   but short of that, i have not found anything that i "couldn't do" in a console.   and that includes watching movies.     but i'm  OT so i'll move on.
[04:03] <Agent_bob> nflava you may have to reinstall the driver for the particular kernel version     i don't like propritary drivers...
[04:04] <_CrashMaster_> This is wierd.
[04:04] <_CrashMaster_> I can't find any wireless + wired routers on D-Link's india site.
[04:05] <Agent_bob> that is wierd
[04:05] <fulat2k> hi folks, is it possible to specify a "sync" flag when mounting USB devices?
[04:05] <Agent_bob> fulat2k yes
[04:06] <fulat2k> Agent_bob: any command/text file i should know of? :)
[04:06] <linuxlover> CrashMaster: i need 2 nos. of that product for my 2 desktops? right?...... and the router? may you please help me to find the router?
[04:06] <nflava> heh i think the reinstalling of drivers will have to wait till tomrrow
[04:06] <nflava> time for bed
[04:07] <Agent_bob> fulat2k if you mount a usb drive via UUID= in the fstab you can add sync,ro,'and friends' to the options portion of the line.   man fstab   should help with specifics
[04:07] <nflava> will you be online tomorrow too Agent_bob?
[04:07] <_CrashMaster_> linuxlover: Yes to the first question. And Im still trying to find the appropriate product for the router. I can find it on the US site, but im having trouble on the India site.
[04:07] <Agent_bob> fulat2k otherwise if you mount manually  you can use the  -o switch in the mount command to add the options you want
[04:08] <Agent_bob> man mount   has the specifics on that
[04:08] <Agent_bob> nflava i have no idea yet.    but someone will be here that can help you.
[04:08] <hsystemx> !offtopic
[04:09] <chalcedony> i can't think of the name of the photo showing program i had maybe you type display to show the photos?'
[04:10] <linuxlover> CrashMaster: No problem, you please take your own time
[04:12] <Agent_bob> nflava right ?
[04:14] <Agent_bob> chalcedony in an xserver that will work
[04:16] <Agent_bob> chalcedony showimg ?
[04:16] <fulat2k> Agent_bob: what about those random usb devices via auto mount?
[04:17] <Agent_bob> fulat2k for that you would have to change the default for automount    and i dont know where that is.
[04:17] <Agent_bob> someone else might ?
[04:17] <Agent_bob> Jucato_ ?
[04:18] <fulat2k> Agent_bob: hmm.. alrity.  lemme have a look then.  thx
[04:18] <Agent_bob> fulat2k welcome
[04:19] <Agent_bob> fulat2k jsut a thought,  but "eject" is a handy command for umounting things
[04:21] <Agent_bob> this can't be right  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=db524da6
[04:21] <morphius> everytime my system loads, it loads the friendly-recovery menu, but this causes my system to hang, so certain services are not starting up (dhcp, etc). How can I turn this off.
[04:23] <Agent_bob> time seems to be running way too fast   Uptime: 18 days 22 hours 23 mins 04 sec
[04:25] <Agent_bob> bah a bogus "uptime" command in /usr/local/bin/    ;/  i wonder when i did that...      this looks more like it.   22:24:34 up  2:07,  0 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[04:27] <linuxlover> CrashMaster: Thank you very much for your help to me. My best regards to you.
[04:28] <_CrashMaster_> np
[04:31] <daskReech> hi CPrgmSwR2
[04:31] <CPrgmSwR2> Hi
[04:31] <daskReech> I have not seen yuo in oodles of stroodles
[04:31] <_CrashMaster_> mmmm toaster stroodles
[04:32] <CPrgmSwR2> Yeah, I am now working
[04:32] <ib> hi
[04:32] <CPrgmSwR2> So not as much time
[04:32] <CPrgmSwR2> Is there a nightly build of koffice2?
[04:33] <daskReech> CPrgmSwR2: .. for Kubuntu?
[04:34] <CPrgmSwR2> yes
[04:34] <_CrashMaster_> Ooh I got a question.
[04:34] <_CrashMaster_> How do I install a .jar file?
[04:34] <daskReech> CPrgmSwR2: that would need a nightly build of KDE
[04:34] <Agent_bob> !jar
[04:34] <daskReech> since it depends on KDE 4.1
[04:34] <CPrgmSwR2> Oh
[04:34] <daskReech> so you'd need a fairly up to date KDE 4.1
[04:35] <CPrgmSwR2> Yeah, I just quite tring to live on the bleeding edge, because it takes up alot of time
[04:36] <daskReech> CPrgmSwR2: Yeah it's also kind awhy we don't have nightly builds
[04:36] <daskReech> CPrgmSwR2: we are trying to aim for a weekly build
[04:36] <Agent_bob> is there no way to pipe the output of  cat << EOF   inside a script ?
[04:36] <daskReech> that's a little more manageable
[04:36] <Agent_bob> wait  i know how.
[04:36] <CPrgmSwR2> I am just courious if koffice2 is going to have any killer features over openoffice
[04:37] <_CrashMaster_> No word on how to run this .jar file eh?
[04:37] <_CrashMaster_> TO GOOGLE!
[04:37] <CPrgmSwR2> jar .jhar
[04:37] <CPrgmSwR2> or what ever the file name is
[04:37] <daskReech> _CrashMaster_: java -jar name.jar
[04:37] <CPrgmSwR2> oops
[04:37] <daskReech> CPrgmSwR2: How's work?
[04:38] <CPrgmSwR2> It actually sucks
[04:38] <CPrgmSwR2> Because I am dealing with this horrible software
[04:38] <daskReech> >_<
[04:38] <_CrashMaster_> command java not found.
[04:38] <_CrashMaster_> Well thats just spiffy
[04:39] <_CrashMaster_> !jre
[04:39] <CPrgmSwR2> _CrashMaster_: try jar name.jar
[04:39] <_CrashMaster_> CPrgmSwR2: same response
[04:40] <Agent_bob> nflava a little
[04:40] <nflava> do you know the best one that has ssl support
[04:41] <nflava> i have filezilla atm but i dont like it too much
[04:41] <Agent_bob> ummm best is subjective    vsftp i think supports that
[04:41] <Agent_bob> are you looking for a gui or cli based client ?
[04:41] <nflava> gui
[04:42] <nflava> wow although i do get great speeds with filezilla
[04:42] <nflava> 1.4mb/s
[04:42] <_CrashMaster_> hm
[04:42] <_CrashMaster_> helps to have java installed, I suppose.
[04:42] <Agent_bob> nflava konqueror does ftp
[04:43] <Agent_bob> gentoo ?
[04:43] <Agent_bob> sudo apt-get install gentoo     :)))
[04:43] <nflava> well i need the ssl encryption i dont think i can get that with konquror
[04:43] <CPrgmSwR2> oh yeah
[04:43] <nflava> gentoo, sure ill try it
[04:43] <CPrgmSwR2> sudo apt-get install emerge
[04:44] <Agent_bob> nflava konqueror does ssl  and does ftp   so you should be able to
[04:44] <nflava> hm interesting
[04:44] <nflava> emerge package cant be located
[04:44] <Agent_bob> CPrgmSwR2 emerge is not a package
[04:44] <Agent_bob> gentoo is
[04:45] <Agent_bob> !info gentoo
[04:45] <nflava> gettin gentoo now
[04:45] <daskReech> ha ha
[04:45] <nflava> and that should pop up in my kmenu?
[04:45] <CPrgmSwR2> Wow, I never thought a package would be named after a distro
[04:46] <Agent_bob> nflava did you try konqueror ?        and yes it should.
[04:46] <Agent_bob> CPrgmSwR2 it's not,  the distro was named after the app
[04:46] <nflava> not yet, ill have to do that tomorrow lol i really need to get to bed
[04:46] <CPrgmSwR2> oh
[04:46] <Agent_bob> nflava     in konqueror     ftp://the.url.here
[04:46] <daskReech> Agent_bob: The distro was named after  the penguin
[04:47] <Agent_bob> still the app was first
[04:48] <Agent_bob> or so i was informed.   source was on the internet so not overly trustworthy
[04:48] <Agent_bob> "never beleive anything you read on the insternet."  - bill gates
[04:48] <Agent_bob> s/s//
[04:49] <daskReech> Agent_bob: I know. I read that on the net the other day
[04:50]  * Agent_bob points out that  IRC=Internet Relay Chat   is on the internet...   </ducks>
[04:51] <flaccid> hey guys does the kubuntu installer have functionality to shrink a windows filesystem/partitin?
[04:51] <dwidmann> flaccid: I believe so
[04:51] <NickPresta> flaccid, I'm not sure if the installer step has that ability, but QT Parted (included on CD) does
[04:51] <Jucato> Agent_bob, daskReech: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/faq.xml#pronunciation
[04:52] <Agent_bob> flaccid yes     but.    you may need to run scandisk and defrag in windows with the "pagefile" turned off     first
[04:52] <Agent_bob> windows puts it's page file at the end of it's fs in many cases
[04:55] <Agent_bob> Jucato yeah but....
[04:55] <Agent_bob> that's on the internet too   ;/
[04:56] <Jucato> you're on the internet
[04:56]  * Agent_bob doesn't believe it...
[04:57] <cnstarz> !nvidia
[04:57] <daskReech> CPrgmSwR2: So what's up?
[04:57] <Agent_bob> see actually, i'm not on the internet.   but you are!     HAH!
[04:58] <CPrgmSwR2> daskReech: fixing to go to bed
[04:58] <cnstarz> is the nvidia driver problem fixed yet?
[04:58] <daskReech> CPrgmSwR2: I'll make that my aim as well
[05:00] <Agent_bob> i think i'll time the lappy with a full charge and normal multimedia usage   to see how long it takes before it "dies"
[05:02] <hawkeyex> ok
[05:02] <hawkeyex> my computer keeps rebooting
[05:02] <hawkeyex> and I'm trying to figure out why
[05:02] <hawkeyex> where do I start?
[05:02] <hawkeyex> (it reboots like once every hour)
[05:02] <Agent_bob> oh my    cron ?
[05:03] <Agent_bob> that or a script some place
[05:03] <hawkeyex> what's the best thing to diagnose?
[05:03] <Agent_bob> or is it a hard reset ?
[05:03] <hawkeyex> no, it reboots itself
[05:04] <Agent_bob> yes but does it shutdown propperly or instant reset ?
[05:05] <hawkeyex> instant reset
[05:06] <Agent_bob> that could be a memory leak    ?
[05:06] <hawkeyex> i don't know
[05:06] <hawkeyex> what's the best way to find out?
[05:09] <NickPresta> hawkeyex, eliminate any sort of outside variables. don't start any applications when you first boot the system. don't login. wait and see if it resets. then login, but don't start anything. wait for the reset. narrow down the causes
[05:09] <hawkeyex> ok
[05:09] <hawkeyex> i will try that.
[05:16] <Agent_bob> alt+SysRQ+U  does that cleanly or uncleanly umount ?
[05:54] <o0Chris0o> anyone here play WoW and use a headset, plz pm me
[06:00] <drif> is there a program to check my memory clock?
[06:03] <rickey> need the code to unlock adept installer
[06:03] <_CrashMaster_> unlock?
[06:03] <_CrashMaster_> !aptfix | rickey
[06:03] <rickey> thank you guys
[06:07] <firecrotc1> !info ndiswrapper
[06:08] <_CrashMaster_> oh it does too
[06:08] <Agent_bob> drif memtest86 ?    or  lshw  ?    what do you want ?
[06:09] <drif> Agent_bob: memtest86 is not an option because I need to keep the OS running. but as much specs from moery as possible
[06:10] <drif> memory
[06:10] <Agent_bob> cat /proc      ;/     idk.
[06:10] <NightBird> How do I get my laptop to suspend to ram from the console?
[06:11] <Agent_bob> cat /proc/meminfo   i started to say
[06:11] <drif> Agent_bob: and you call that specific?
[06:12] <Agent_bob> drif i'm not sure what you are looking for
[06:12] <drif> Agent_bob: read above
[06:12] <drif> Agent_bob: I asked for memory clock info
[06:13] <drif> but trying lm-sensors and ksensors now, plus decode-dimms.pl
[06:13] <Agent_bob> dmesg should have that.   lshw   should have that.
[06:13] <NickPresta> NightBird, try is for a compaq laptop but should still apply to you. http://jeremy.visser.name/2008/05/05/how-to-suspend-to-ram-in-ubuntu-on-the-compaq-evo-n610c/
[06:14] <antsurea> hola
[06:14] <NickPresta> !es | antsurea
[06:16] <drif> Agent_bob: decode-dimms.pl did the trick
[06:16] <flaccid> thanks guys for help before
[06:29] <jacalope> kde4 dashboard question:  how do you set it such that your plasmoids only appear when you activate the dashboard?
[06:32] <Agent_bob> drif like i said   the first time     lshw
[06:33] <daskReech> jacalope: cover them with windows :)
[06:33] <drif> Agent_bob: I have tried that from the very beginnig - didn't give me squat when compared to decode-dimms.pl
[06:33] <drif> beginning
[06:38] <jacalope> aww, but i like my desktop pic
[06:38] <Daisuke_Ido> jacalope: the easy answer is don't use the demonic abomination that is 4.0.x, wait for 4.1 :D
[06:39] <daskReech> jacalope: No idea if something like that is planned. as far as I know the implementation is that it creates a new layer with an new visualisation of the Plasmoids on your desktop
[06:39] <daskReech> Daisuke_Ido: few more weeks.....
[06:39] <Daisuke_Ido> yep :)
[06:40] <Daisuke_Ido> i can't wait
[06:40] <Daisuke_Ido> well, i can wait
[06:40] <daskReech> Daisuke_Ido: I was about to ask if you were going to kill yourself
[06:41] <Daisuke_Ido> daskReech: well, i installed 4.0.4 and came pretty close -_-
[06:43] <Agent_bob> drif did you run it as root ?       sudo lshw -C memory       or -C bank    it gives me the ram speed   don't know why it doesn't for you
[06:45] <drif> Agent_bob: nothing useful I'm afraid :-\ only clock speed I mentioned is 66MHz
[06:45] <drif> -I
[06:45] <drif> I=it
[06:45] <Agent_bob> 66 mhz    eeek    ;/
[06:46] <drif> Agent_bob: decode-dimms.pl give me 333
[06:46] <Agent_bob> yeah,   hmmm i wonder why your lshw doesn't
[06:47] <drif> Agent_bob: pastebin your -C memory?
[06:50] <o0Chris0o> anyone here play WoW and use a headset, plz pm me
[06:50] <Agent_bob> drif why ?   it gives the correct info for me
[06:50] <drif> Agent_bob: for comparison
[06:50] <drif> Agent_bob: so I could see what it's supposed to output
[06:50] <Agent_bob> description: DIMM DRAM Synchronous 133 MHz (7.5 ns)
[06:52] <drif> Agent_bob: description: DIMM DRAM Synchronous
[06:52] <drif> on all banks
[06:53] <Agent_bob> odd...
[06:58] <Agent_bob> hmmm my laptop just died !
[07:00] <Agent_bob> two hours on battery  outputting audio the full time,   but not vidio,   and disk read/cpu intensive full time.    so i guess that the battery is        ok ;/
[07:21] <dwidmann> Agent_bob: kind of sad really
[07:21] <dwidmann> Agent_bob: mine can push 7 hours :)
[07:22] <dwidmann> Agent_bob: use the application powertop to increase your battery life. It'll give you hints at what you need to do, and offer you single keypress fixes for them (most of which are things you'll have to do every bootup though, with a couple exceptions)
[07:23] <dwidmann> Agent_bob: also, the powernowd > guidance IMO ... and dimming the screen as much as possible cuts EN use by a lot.
[07:38] <crazy_bus> I'm really sorry to ask again, but I think I lost the file where I wrote a command down.  But how do I check see what outgoing and incoming internet connections my computer has?
[08:17] <jussi01> Hey everyone! Can someone remind me where the option is to do nothing when the lid of a laptop is closed?
[08:19] <firecrotch> jussi01:  Um.... right click the power manager icon in your system tray, I think it's somewhere in there
[08:20] <Jucato> jussi01: right. right-click on g-p-m
[08:20] <jussi01> hrm.... nope... but left click does it ...
[08:21] <firecrotch> I'd give more exact details, but I'm in Windows Vista right now
[08:21]  * firecrotch ducks
[08:21]  * jussi01 swipes
[08:21] <jussi01> I have it, thanks
[08:21]  * jussi01 was lookingin system settings - display....
[08:22] <firecrotch> It would make sense that it would be there
[08:23] <Jucato> not really, it's a function of whatever power manager you'd be using.. that would be weird in Display on a desktop system :)
[08:24] <firecrotch> Jucato: Not if the system could intelligently determine if its a laptop or desktop
[08:25] <Jucato> that would still be the power manager app's responsibility to integrate itself in the control center (not sure if either kpowersave or klaptop does so)
[08:25] <Jucato> klaptop does (or at least it seems to)
[08:26] <Jucato> but I have klaptop on my desktop hahaha
[08:26] <Jucato> ohwell...
[08:27]  * firecrotch groans about configuring this stupid netgear USB wireless card
[08:45] <crazy_bus> >	I'm really sorry to ask again, but I think I lost the file where I wrote a command down. But how do I check see what outgoing and incoming internet connections my computer has?
[08:46] <Agent_bob> man searching for a good laptop HOWTO looks like looking through the antuique mall ;/
[08:46] <Agent_bob> nothing newer than 199x
[08:47] <Jucato> !laptop
[08:49] <firecrotch> crazy_bus:  netstat
[08:52] <Agent_bob> Jucato much better,  at least this is getting close to my genera         * Support of suspend for Ubuntu 4.10 ("Warty Warthog") [SuspendHowto].
[08:52] <Agent_bob> but i'm not looking for suspend howto   ;/
[08:53] <crazy_bus> thanks firecrotch.  Do you know the best combination of options to get the current internet connections.  I'm trying netstat -ta but I'm not sure if that is the proper way
[08:53] <Jucato> hm.. ok..
[08:53] <Agent_bob> oh that's from the ubuntu page the bot mentioned  :)
[08:54] <max__> I have a problem when mount my disk scsi, I have mounted it with this signature /dev/sda1	/diskscsi	ext3		defaults,sync	0 0       but the directory /diskscsi is in ram and in disk, when I copy a file this file is copied to ram and to disk.... someone can help me? (the linux file system is in ram with ramdisk)
[08:56] <Agent_bob> max__  grep diskscsi /proc/mounts
[08:56] <firecrotch> crazy_bus:  Can't think of it off the top of my head.... sorry
[08:57] <Agent_bob> max__ ?
[08:57] <max__> I'm here
[08:58] <max__> system is blocked
[08:58] <max__> wait e little....
[08:58] <max__> I have rebooted the embedded system
[09:00] <max__> "/dev/sda1 /diskscsi ext3 rw,sync 0 0"
[09:00] <max__> this is the output of grep diskscsi /proc/mount
[09:02] <max__> I have a problem when mount my disk scsi, I have mounted it with this signature /dev/sda1/diskscsiext3defaults,sync0 0       but the directory /diskscsi is in ram and in disk, when I copy a file this file is copied to ram and to disk.... someone can help me? (the linux file system is in ram with ramdisk)  the output of command grep diskscsi /proc/mounts is "/dev/sda1 /diskscsi ext3 rw,sync 0 0"
[09:02] <Agent_bob> then why do you say it is writing to ram ?    where are you getting your information ?
[09:03] <Agent_bob> it shouldn't matter where / is as long as where you are writing is on a physical device
[09:05] <Dfmix> .
[09:06] <naught101> is there any way to stop context menus from selecting an entry on an right-unclick?
[09:07] <max__> when I use cp command and copy 1 file
[09:08] <max__> when I use cp command and copy 1 file this file is copied into ram and into the disk
[09:08] <max__> I use cat /proc/meminfo
[09:08] <max__> I use cat /proc/meminfo to see my free memory
[09:08] <max__> and I use ls -all to see the file on the disk
[09:08] <smart> I never know Ubuntu could be so fun.
[09:09] <max__>  I have a problem when mount my disk scsi, I have mounted it with this signature /dev/sda1/diskscsiext3defaults,sync0 0       but the directory /diskscsi is in ram and in disk, when I copy a file this file is copied to ram and to disk.... someone can help me? (the linux file system is in ram with ramdisk)  the output of command grep diskscsi /proc/mounts is "/dev/sda1 /diskscsi ext3 rw,sync 0 0" I see the free memory with command "cat
[09:09] <max__> /proc/meminfo" and I see the file copied with ls -all
[09:10] <smart> WOW!~ To high above my head and thinking lol
[09:11] <Agent_bob> max__ so you are saying that the used ram increses proportunally to the size of the file copy ?
[09:12] <max__> yes
[09:12] <Agent_bob> max__ and this is an embeded system ?
[09:12] <max__> yes
[09:12] <Agent_bob> what kernel ?
[09:13] <max__> but I think is the scsi driver... when I use make menuconfig and I put some options....
[09:13] <max__> 2.6.6
[09:15] <Agent_bob> yeah it could be a driver issue.   i.e. if the driver is "hosed" and you copy the file to the "disk"  it may not actually be reaching the disk.    have you dismounted the device and checked it from another system to see if the file is actually on disk ?
[09:15] <max__> now I'm rebuilding the kernel with new config parameters
[09:16] <max__> Agent, I can't see that device scsi with another system...
[09:16] <Agent_bob> Boohbah: internal scsi ?     i see.
[09:16] <Agent_bob> max__ oh; internal scsi ?     i see.
[09:17]  * Agent_bob says "well don't that just cock your dang pistol"
[09:19] <Agent_bob> max__ here's another way to check that ^   you can reboot the embeded system  and see if the file remained on the scsi device over a reboot.   that should prove that it's not in ram only.
[09:19] <max__> yes of course, I check now
[09:21] <max__> is an extern scsi raid disk
[09:21] <Agent_bob> i.e.  if the file is there.  then your first assessment of the situation is correct it's writting both to ram and disk.   if the file is not there then the "faulty driver" assessment would be correct.  and the file was never actually making it to disk   only to ram.
[09:22] <max__> Agent, all the file are in the disk when I reboot the kernel
[09:22] <max__> I see all file
[09:25] <Agent_bob> ok.  oe more test might be in order.  but i'm not sure you want ot play in this sand box.   you can copy enough data to over fill the ram to see if it is actually writing to ram or just caching as it writes to the disk.   if you can copy more data to the disk than will all fit in ram, without it crashing something or invoking OOMK  then your panic is over nothing.
[09:25] <Agent_bob> s/ot/to/
[09:27] <song> linux下访问vss有没有简单的方法
[09:27] <max__> yes Agent, I have tried that... but the ram was fill.....
[09:27] <max__> and never happen
[09:27] <Agent_bob> you are building your own kernel there     correct?
[09:27] <max__> yes
[09:28] <max__> I change some option in the scsi device
[09:28] <Agent_bob> make sure you have OOMK set to "1"   or "last"
[09:28] <max__> but I didn't change other kernel file
[09:29] <max__> OOMK???? what do you mean?
[09:29] <Agent_bob> OOMK= out of memory kill    it's a kernel option
[09:29] <max__> ah ok ok
[09:30] <Agent_bob> one option for OOMK is "smart"  i don't reccomend "smart" because in my openion it's really "dumb"  and behaves badly
[09:32] <Agent_bob> side note on that.   anyone that want's to see how dumb smart oomk is.  just set off a fork bomb on a system that is set to smart, and watch everything but the fork bomb die...
[09:32] <max__> I have recompiled the kernel with some option in the scsi (I have eliminate log and other things) but the problem is still here
[09:32] <max__> I think is the scsi device driver....
[09:33] <max__> that copy some log into memory
[09:33] <Agent_bob> max__ you might want to ask in   #kernel     they can tell you much more about that than i can.
[09:33] <max__> thanks Agent for your help
[09:33] <Agent_bob> welcome.
[09:34] <max__> join #kernel
[09:34] <Agent_bob> /join #kernel   <<<  needs the slash
[09:35] <max__> yes of course Agent ( LOL )
[09:35] <Agent_bob> :)
[09:36] <smart> I'm needing to install nmap on this Ubuntu.. could some one help me?
[09:36] <smart> I'm not that smart
[09:39] <sigma_1234> how do i install kde4.1 from source?
[09:40] <Mind_Learning> WOW!~ I'm back lol
[09:40] <Agent_bob> !build-essential
[09:40] <Mind_Learning> phew~
[09:40] <Mind_Learning> ok ?   What does sudo    do?
[09:40] <Mind_Learning> Wot is it for?
[09:41] <firecrotch> Mind_Learning:  sudo is used to run commands with "root" privileges, as if you were logged in as "root"
[09:41] <Agent_bob> super user do
[09:42] <dwidmann> Wow ... kde4's system monitor is really nice ..... http://www.xnowherex.com/images/drive_activity.png http://www.xnowherex.com/images/cpu_activity.png http://www.xnowherex.com/images/net_activity.png
[09:42] <Mind_Learning> Killer DUDE!~ thanks... what went with SU?
[09:42] <Agent_bob> su requires a root password   the "official" ubuntu stance on that is "never set a root password"
[09:43] <dwidmann> !sudo
[09:43] <Mind_Learning> Nice.. thanks
[09:43] <Mind_Learning> I'll do
[09:43] <Mind_Learning> read read read :)
[09:45] <Agent_bob> my "non-ubuntu" thought on the matter is that a secure root password is better than a weak root jr. account.     but some disagree.
[09:46] <dwidmann> Agent_bob: probably more secure, but less convenient?
[09:47] <dwidmann> Agent_bob: then again, there are probably perks to having the root account locked.
[09:47] <Agent_bob> perks ?    heh :)
[09:49] <Agent_bob> well the majority of ubuntu users drop by  freenode #ubuutu   logged into irc as their root jr. user     so the name is not guesswork  all that remains to be cracked is their password,   and    password is not a strong password but it beats a good lot of them.    name=name & password=name
[09:50] <Agent_bob> then they run a vnc server just to make things inviting.
[09:51] <dwidmann> Agent_bob: but on the bright side, at least silly people aren't logged in as root itself.
[09:51] <Agent_bob> many are.
[09:51] <dwidmann> sad
[09:52] <Agent_bob> or as ubuntu on the liveCD     which is root jr. with null password.
[09:53] <dwidmann> My thoughts on the matter are keep the root jr. account to get the small benefits of not logging in as root, and remove my main user from the admin group.
[09:55] <Agent_bob> my prefered security patern is setup init to support one root login on a locked root acount and the whole system mounted "nosuid"
[09:55] <firecrotch> I've always thought that with sudo, it should be a separate password from the account login password to use sudo
[09:55] <Agent_bob> with that setup you only access root from hands on locally
[09:56] <Agent_bob> firecrotch that would be more like a root password
[09:57] <firecrotch> Agent_bob:  Not quite.  Having a root password, you could just log in as root.  Crack one password.  My way, you'd have to basically crack the user password and their sudo password
[09:57] <firecrotch> Along with first figuring out the name of the regular user
[09:57] <dwidmann> I agree.
[09:58] <dwidmann> that would be nice
[09:58] <Agent_bob> firecrotch the name is most of the time a given tho
[09:58] <dwidmann> Best of both worlds
[09:58] <Pennycook> firecrotch: Your user account's password should be secure enough anyway.
[09:58] <Agent_bob> and reomote attempts would go streight to sudo and not worry about the user if there was a master sudo password
[09:59] <Pennycook> Plus, there would have to be some sort of override because the majority of people can't remember passwords.  How do you change your sudo password when you've forgotten it?
[09:59] <dwidmann> Pennycook: the (k)(x)ubuntu installer, last I checked, allows you to use very insecure passwords without even so much as a warning (at least with the alternate installer, unsure about live), that passwd won't even let you do unless you first expire the password.
[09:59] <firecrotch> Pennycook:  Same way you get into your system when you forget your user password, recovery mode
[10:00] <Agent_bob> dwidmann last i checked one char will suffice
[10:00] <dwidmann> Agent_bob: pull up a shell and do it right now
[10:00] <Agent_bob> dwidmann ?   do what ?  install ?
[10:01] <firecrotch> This conversation reminds me.... I need to check the auth logs on my server
[10:01] <Pennycook> dwidmann: It's one of those annoyances you can't escape.  If Ubuntu made it so your password had to follow a certain number of rules, the majority of people will get frustrated that they can't have the password that they want.
[10:01] <dwidmann> Agent_bob: no, I meant change your passwd with passwd and try to enter one character, or even something long that's simple, your username, etc, dumb things.
[10:02] <dwidmann> Pennycook: I can sympathize with that, my regular user passwd is intentionall weak.
[10:02] <Agent_bob> dwidmann i can do passwd -d
[10:02] <Agent_bob> like duh
[10:03] <dwidmann> Agent_bob: sure, but the point is unless you're forcing it you're at least being told not to do it.
[10:04] <Agent_bob> error: no i2c device files found. use prov/mkdev/mkdev.sh to creat them.    <<<< ?
[10:05] <Pennycook> dwidmann: Is SSH enabled by default?  If it's not, then maybe there's no restriction on the initial password because it's assumed it'll only be used locally?
[10:05] <Agent_bob> dwidmann not here.       for an example you can understand     sudo passwd -d $USER
[10:06] <Agent_bob> Pennycook no. sshd is not even installed by default  iirc
[10:06] <dwidmann> Agent_bob: yeah ..... but I was referring more to changing, not first deleting then setting
[10:06] <Agent_bob> that only deletes it dwidmann    making it a passwordless avvount
[10:06] <dwidmann> try to change it to silly things like blah, password, $USER, etc ....
[10:06] <Agent_bob> account
[10:07] <dwidmann> readas: making it a large, gaping,, potential security hole
[10:07] <Agent_bob> Retype new UNIX password:
[10:07] <Agent_bob> passwd: password updated successfully
[10:07] <Agent_bob> set to "x"
[10:08] <dwidmann> Agent_bob: without first deleting it, see what it says when you try to set it to 'x'
[10:08]  * firecrotch looks at auth.log on server.... Heh, I love having root disabled... no worries about the moron who keeps trying to bruteforce the root account
[10:08] <Agent_bob> Retype new UNIX password:
[10:08] <Agent_bob> passwd: password updated successfully
[10:08] <MDCore> hey all. I've set up a dual monitor config through the GUI, but now every minute or so the machine locks up (no mouse/keyboard except capslock) for about 5 seconds. It didn't do this before I set up the second monitor. Any ideas?
[10:08] <Agent_bob> that's what it said  i changed it from x to z
[10:08] <Agent_bob> anything else ??
[10:09] <dwidmann> it gave me this .... http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d5f36fc27
[10:10] <Agent_bob> ah good they started using a pam module on that.   glad they did
[10:10] <Agent_bob> btw  dapper here
[10:10] <dwidmann> <--- is running hardy
[10:11] <Agent_bob> error: no i2c device files found. use prov/mkdev/mkdev.sh to creat them.    <<<< so what is this?
[10:12] <Agent_bob> small net split
[10:12] <Agent_bob> looks like we lost about 8 users
[10:13]  * Agent_bob being taught to open his big mouth about a security hole...
[10:22] <max__> I need to disable the cache in my linux, but with swapoff -a don't happen anything
[10:26] <dwidmann> max__: what does cat /proc/swaps say
[10:28] <max__> nothing
[10:28] <max__> "cat /proc/swaps" don t say nothing
[10:29] <max__> but when I use "cat /proc/meminfo" I see Cached:         135012 kB
[10:30] <dwidmann> max__: what do swaptotal and swapfree say?
[10:30] <max__> is 0
[10:30] <max__> but what is the Cached  in the cat proc/meminfo?
[10:31] <dwidmann> max__: dunno, must e something else though.
[10:31] <dwidmann> max__: think it's the cached data in real memory though
[10:32] <bjoern_> test
[10:32] <bjoern_> ah hallo
[10:33]  * dwidmann gives bjoern_ an F on his or her test.
[10:33] <bjoern_> whatever that means
[10:33] <bjoern_> sorry i am beginner
[10:33] <dwidmann> bjoern_: F on a test = Fail :P
[10:33] <bjoern_> ah
[10:33] <bjoern_> ok
[10:33] <bjoern_> :-)
[10:33] <Jucato> -_-
[10:35] <bjoern_> anyone who spaeks german here? i have a problem with my firefox language package
[10:36] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d31dfa9f9    ;/
[10:36] <Agent_bob> !DE | bjoern_
[10:37] <Agent_bob> the bot does...
[10:37] <dwidmann> Agent_bob: I get the same thing when I try to detect sensors :( Yet I can watch them in BIOS
[10:37] <bjoern_> ah thanks
[10:38] <dwidmann> Agent_bob: if it's a recent laptop try modprobing "coretemp" and checking the coretemp in /proc
[10:47] <Red_Tear> !joystick
[10:52] <Ronald__> Hi all .. qeustion from a kubuntu newbie... how difficult is it to get a usb-wlan stick to work with kubuntu 8.04?
[10:52] <Tm_T> Ronald__: depends, easiest case is just plugin and use
[10:52] <Ronald__> perhaps I should mention that I will be installing kubuntu when i get a new (2nd) pc next month.. just clueing up in advance right now...
[10:53] <Ronald__> - i can run the live-cd now to try stuff out of course...
[10:53] <Ronald__> tm - and that works some of the time right??
[10:54] <Ronald__> the kubuntu 8.04 supports data encription protocolls out of the box.. for the wlan i mean??
[10:55] <RuyalarPrensi> vcd problem
[10:55] <ct529> I think I am going rimba .... kde 4.0.3.  I am trying to reinstate konqueror as a file manager instead of dolphin
[10:56] <ct529> but I do not apper to be able to .... anyone who can help?
[10:57] <Ronald__> Tm- same stuff from another angle.. I don't seem to find any documentation listed as being for the 8.04? Does it exist oder does the stuff for the 7.10 cover a fair bit of the 8.04 questions...?
[10:57] <Ronald__> or are there very major differences...?
[10:59] <Ronald__> lots of lag on this # or..?
[10:59] <Ronald__> - is it me "asking boreing questions!?" <smile.>
[11:01] <ere4si> !konquerer | ct529
[11:01] <ere4si> hmmm
[11:02] <RuyalarPrensi> lan adamı hasta etmesenize vcd izleyemiom problem var diom
[11:02] <Schorfi> Ronald__: maybe this list helps, when buying a new usb-wlan-stick: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[11:02] <ct529> !konqueror | ct529
[11:02] <RuyalarPrensi> !vcd
[11:02] <RuyalarPrensi> topiiik
[11:03] <Ronald__> thanks shorfi...
[11:03] <Tm_T> RuyalarPrensi: polski?
[11:03] <Schorfi> take a look around this wiki, if you have more questions
[11:04] <RuyalarPrensi> Tm_T: I don't speak polski
[11:04] <Tm_T> RuyalarPrensi: ok, english then? this is english channel :)
[11:04] <Jucato> !turkey | RuyalarPrensi
[11:04] <Tm_T> hmm
[11:04] <RuyalarPrensi> :)
[11:05] <RuyalarPrensi> my guys thank
[11:07] <o0Chris0o> how do I enable tweaks?
[11:09] <Tm_T> o0Chris0o: what tweaks?
[11:09] <o0Chris0o> kde tweaks
[11:09] <o0Chris0o> I installed em but didn't actually run them
[11:11] <o0Chris0o> I dunno, was a awhile ago, I prolly should get to bed
[11:11] <o0Chris0o> :-p
[11:12] <Agent_bob> my sensors are not supported,    assuming that this laptop has sensors.
[11:12] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d31dfa9f9    ;/
[11:12] <Malique> Hey guys, maybe I'm blind but how do you force applications to print in greyscale?
[11:14] <Agent_bob> isn't there a way to make linux not "touch" the hdd except every xminutes ?
[11:15] <Ronald__> Is anybody running 8.04 with a usb-wlan adaptor (which?)
[11:16] <Agent_bob> !sound-hda
[11:16] <Ronald__> www- infos on this theme - like for a lota topics tends to be for the 7.10...
[11:16] <Agent_bob> !intel-hda
[11:16] <Agent_bob> !soundhda
[11:16] <Tm_T> hmh, I smell fishing
[11:17] <Agent_bob> jussi01 showed me that factoid yestergo ....  ;/
[11:17] <Ronald__> re: Tm...
[11:18] <Ronald__> hmmm... looks like I will be running a cable under the carpet again... <smile->
[11:19] <Tm_T> Ronald__: if you're trying to hilight me, use my full nick ;)
[11:19] <Schorfi> Ronald__: i do, with a zyxel g220
[11:19] <Ronald__> Tm_T sorry pal...
[11:19] <Tm_T> Ronald__: no problems
[11:20] <Ronald__> Just being lazy.. and/or was not aware of such a system....
[11:20] <Ronald__> I last used irc to any extent some 15 years ago - or thereabouts...
[11:20] <Ronald__> at least before there was the www... heheh
[11:21] <Tm_T> !tab
[11:21] <Malique> OK, it looks like I can set up some sort of a filter to pass an option to ghostscript when printing to convert it to greyscale, does that sound right? Is that the only way to get programs to print in greyscale?
[11:21] <Pandemic> Hello, guys, tell me , what do I have to use to get rdp to winNT
[11:21] <Tm_T> Pandemic: krdfc or something?
[11:21] <Ronald__> Tm_T: hehe even works in chatzilla
[11:21] <Tm_T> it does
[11:22] <Ronald__> Tm_T: cool...
[11:22] <Tm_T> Ronald__: some of us are in over 50 channels, so we cannot notice everything ;)
[11:22] <Ronald__> Tm_T: so if I am not mistaken - the chances of buying just any old cheap sup-wlan stick and it working out of the box is a bit slim...
[11:23] <Ronald__> Tm_T: I get the point...
[11:23] <Ronald__> e e usb w-lan stick... i mean...
[11:23] <Schorfi> Ronald__: i have an, ~2-year-old zyxel g-220, and wlan works out of the box for me
[11:23] <Tm_T> Ronald__: its all about selecting right chip
[11:24] <Ronald__> Schorfi: I am in Germany and there don't seem to be any Zyxel stuff on the market here these days...
[11:24] <Ronald__> Tm_T:  but I get the point about the chip...
[11:24] <Malique> Tm_T: happen to know anything about how to make stuff print in greyscale?
[11:24] <Schorfi> Ronald__: I am too, and i got mine from Arcor :)
[11:25] <Tm_T> Malique: have you checked your printer settings?
[11:25] <Agent_bob> is the atheros on a card or on the main board in a toshiba ?
[11:26] <Agent_bob> anyone know off hand?
[11:26] <Ronald__> Schorfi: I suppose at the store they might even give me a sencible answer if I wave the euros in thier noses and say - hey pal this is yours if u can guarantee kubuntu support etc hehehe
[11:26] <SlimeyPete> Agent_bob: in my toshiba it's on a mini-pci card.
[11:26] <Malique> Tm_T: I've sifted through my printer settings for hours, I can't find anything on printing in greyscale. If I go to Configure in the printer settings, under Color Model (the closest i could find) it only has RGB
[11:26] <Agent_bob> SlimeyPete k.  i'll go fishing then    hopping to remove it.
[11:27] <Tm_T> Malique: no idea, I don't have printers myself
[11:27] <Schorfi> as already said - it all depends on the chipset. afaik, the g220 uses a 'zd1211' chipset and it works fine, as the drivers are in the kernel
[11:27] <SlimeyPete> Agent_bob: there's a panel on the bottom of mine which gives easy access. It's towards the front.
[11:27] <Schorfi> (i think)
[11:27] <max__> when I write in my disk scsi a large file after the command "cat /proc/meminfo" display me a lot of Cached memory.... Cached 700000 700MB in Cached, how I can resize this buffers?
[11:27] <Agent_bob> SlimeyPete yeah looking at that now    looks promicing
[11:28] <Malique> Tm_T: Fair enough. Bloody printers :@ know anyone who might be able to help me?
[11:28] <Ronald__> Schorfi: I see pms for you are blocked or...?
[11:29] <Agent_bob> anyone know command to control fan speed ?
[11:29] <Ronald__> Schorfi: if the wlan thing is too much of a hassle - for a start I will prolly just run a bit of cable - that normally will detect a router automatically or..?
[11:30] <Ronald__> Agent_bob: we used to do stuff like that with chewing gum a bit back heheh
[11:30] <Schorfi> Ronald__: yes, there shouldn't be any problems with a wired connection
[11:31] <Ronald__> Schorfi: I cant wait to get my hands on this new pc .. do you know the firm hd-computer in Berlin - they have a cool configurator sales thing -
[11:31] <Malique> Ronald__: Have you tried using ndiswrapper? Helped me get my wlan up and running on my new laptop
[11:31] <Ronald__> Schorfi: the pretty basic box I am after comes out at about 200€ (no paid OS of course...)
[11:32] <max__> --------- I need to disable the buffer cache in linux 2.6.6 what is the command?
[11:32] <Ronald__> Malique.. I am just trying to get informed up front - will be buying the (2nd) pc next month...
[11:32] <Schorfi> Ronald__: no, i don't know them ... but sounds good, just right to try kubuntu :)
[11:32] <Malique> Ronald__: Fair enough :)
[11:33] <Ronald__> Schorfi: I have fugged my xp/vista at least 4 times trying to install a tri-boot xp-vis-kubu... just dont work...
[11:33] <Ronald__> Malique - on the other hand I c a n run the live cd to try stuff out.. hehe
[11:34] <Ronald__> Malique - but that is a bit of a bummer when you wanna right stuff to disk and save etc... the answer is the 2nd pc - which I need for other reasons also...
[11:34] <Schorfi> Ronald__: ok, it's better to stay on the safe side then, with a new pc
[11:35] <Ronald__> Schorfi: right - thank Jeezus for Images.. heheh
[11:35] <Malique> Ronald__: That might work ;) at least it'll tell you if it runs OOB. I think there's a way to get the Live CD to save stuff to USB when it loads up, like /home I think, but not sure how to set that up
[11:36] <Ronald__> Malique: not worth the bother just now I guess.. in 2 - 3 weeks should have the new system...
[11:37] <jussi01> !intelhda | Agent_bob
[11:38] <Ronald__>  c u folks a bit later - I better do some work now.. (and not only self-training like this heheh)
[11:38] <Malique> Cya Ronald__
[11:38] <Malique> So, does anyone know how to get programs to print in greyscale?
[11:39] <Malique> Anyone at all, there are no stupid ideas :)
[11:41] <max__> --------- I need to disable the cache disk  in linux 2.6.6 what is the command?
[11:42] <Agent_bob> jussi01 smart elic
[11:42] <Agent_bob> :)
[11:42] <jussi01> :)
[11:42] <Agent_bob> thanks.
[11:42] <jussi01> no probs :D
[11:44] <Agent_bob> i can find this one on my own.
[11:44] <Agent_bob> !wifi
[11:51] <AntSmash> Hey.
[11:51] <jussi01> hi
[11:51] <RuyalarPrensi> hi
[11:51] <frojnd> hello guys. Yesterday I installed ubuntu server and after it fluxbox. But I am NOT able to get any sound. I've installed alsa-base and alsa-oss but I'm still not able to have any sound. Can someone please help me out ?
[11:51]  * AntSmash is also having problems with sound :)
[11:51] <jussi01> frojnd: probably the wrong place to ask - try #fluxbuntu maybe
[11:52] <frojnd> jussi01: no this is the right place :)
[11:53] <frojnd> fluxboy by package fluxbox doesn't bring any sound drivers...
[11:53]  * AntSmash has two annoying problems. NumPad doesn't work, and Side buttons on mouse don't work.
[11:54] <max__> --------- I need to disable the cache disk  in linux 2.6.6 what is the command?
[12:01] <Agent_bob> what is sit0  is that the ath card showing up in ifconfig -a  ?
[12:01] <linuxlover> hello room, i am anindya from india
[12:05] <linuxlover> i have 2 desktop pcs and 1 laptop..... i want to make my small LAN with these three pcs. for this purpose, i am going to purchase this following router http://www.dlink.com.au/Products.aspx?Sec=1&Sub1=2&Sub2=5&PID=337 if anybody please comment over my choise (i am a damn newbie in networking, so please help me)
[12:08] <dwidmann> linuxlover: don't forget to get yourself some cable too ... cat5e or cat6 will do nicely.
[12:14] <linuxlover> dwidmann: i want to connect the main desktop pc (kubuntu) with wire. the other desktop and the laptop will be connected wireless and i am going to use usb network adapter http://www.dlink.co.in/products/Product_temp.aspx?id=4,355 , please take a look and reply me
[12:15] <linuxlover> dwidmann: the laptop is wireless enabled. these two pcs, uses windowz as the os
[12:15] <dwidmann> linuxlover: why connect the other desktop wireless? Keep in mind that wired transfers are 4.5x faster than wireless G's max
[12:17] <linuxlover> then...... you are advising me for staying wired connection
[12:17] <dwidmann> linuxlover: with the exception of the laptop, yes. (though, keeping cable around for plugging the laptop in in the event you need to do backup and such wouldn't be a bad idea)
[12:18] <RuyalarPrensi> !turkish
[12:18] <linuxlover> dwidmann: means, you are in support of connecting two desktops with wire and the laptop wireless
[12:19] <dwidmann> right
[12:19] <linuxlover> ok.... then i only need that router only.... am i right?
[12:20] <dwidmann> right.
[12:21] <linuxlover> may you please confirm whether the router can serve from ADSL broadband connection? because i use BSNL Broadband (it is an ADSL Broadband) in India
[12:23] <dwidmann> How does your ADSL modem connect to your computer(s)? ethernet, usb, serial?
[12:23] <linuxlover> ethernet card
[12:23] <Dr_willis> asdl can connect via serial? never seen that befor. :)
[12:24] <SlimeyPete> doesn't serial top out at 115kbps? ;)
[12:24] <frojnd> please someone. My kernel modul for sound is loaded. How do I know? Ive tryed lsmod | grep snd_intel8x0 and the output is http://pastebin.ca/1022640 i've installed alsa-base and alsa-oss but I still can't hear any sound from headphones. (headphones are working - double cheked) Any ideas why I can't get any sound ?
[12:24] <Dr_willis> SlimeyPete,  thats what i was thinking also.
[12:24] <Dr_willis> I rember having a 9600 baud serial connection to the unix machines at school on my amiga. :) My friends apple2 couldent even handle that.
[12:27] <dwidmann> Dr_willis: hard to say, never know what you might find out there so I left room for possibilities
[12:27] <dwidmann> linuxlover:  I presume it would work fine. One way to find out though ;)
[12:27] <Dr_willis> i still rember the confusion that 'firewire' caused under a lot of disrtos  when everyone suddendly had 2 network devices.  :) one for the nic, and one for their firewire stuff.
[12:29] <dwidmann> linuxlover: on another note, max speed I generally see over Wireless G is 2.2MiB/second, 100BaseTX ethernet is ~10MiB/second
[12:30] <dwidmann> Dr_willis: crazeh
[12:30] <Dr_willis> so a 100 mb file woulkd take about 10 sec then eh?
[12:31] <dwidmann> Yeah
[12:31] <Dr_willis> and I picked up a switch the otehr day - says its 'fast ethernet' thats 100 right?
[12:32] <dwidmann> Right
[12:33] <dwidmann> I've got a gigabit switch .... for regular transfers I usually don't see over about 20-30MiB/second, but that's still a worthy boost.
[12:34] <Dr_willis> Yea - that was my next Q. :) i dont see gb gaining me a whole lot.. but i may be just noticeing the slower transfers oin the non GB machines
[12:34] <Dr_willis> slowly updating my wholelan to gigabit stuff
[12:35] <dwidmann> Dr_willis: I took care of that back when I got the switch ... think the switch was $60 and the NICs were about $30 each ...
[12:35] <dwidmann> Need to find some sort of solution for my laptop though ...
[12:36] <Dr_willis> dwidmann,  yea. i finially pu a gb card in this machine..i only recently realized that built in NIC was not GB. :) and it was a Yukon chipset. which seems to have issues under linux.
[12:36] <Dr_willis> My poor laptop - needs a GB nic for it  - but its hard to justify  the cost.
[12:37] <dwidmann> Agreed.
[12:37] <dwidmann> I think those run more like $45 ish
[12:48] <crs_> re
[12:48] <Saras> hi
[13:07] <hsystemx> #ubuntu
[13:11] <frojnd> What file browser should I use ?
[13:11] <frojnd> something that is gnome based
[13:13] <jussi01> frojnd: nautilus?
[13:15] <Dr_willis> why use a gnome based file manager under kde?
[13:15] <Dr_willis> Theres dozens of file managers to try out if you dont like konqueror or dolphin
[13:16] <hsystemx> Use Konqueror, is better than nautilus... [opinion]
[13:17] <Chrysalis> thunar is my favorite, sorta miss it here on kde
[13:17] <Dr_willis> You can easially install thunar :)
[13:17] <Dr_willis> Ive been using ROX lately.
[13:18] <hsystemx> i 've got a question... How can i change the font color of the kicker bar?
[13:19] <hsystemx> kcontrol -> appeareance, doesnt work for that.
[13:19] <Schorfi> right-click on kicker, settings?
[13:19] <hsystemx> nop.
[13:20] <hsystemx> ok thanks got it.
[13:26] <crs> Is package kde4-core going to install completly kde4 desktop?
[13:27] <Schorfi> try kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[13:27] <crs> Schorfi: thanks, i have just found it :)
[13:28] <Schorfi> hf then
[13:28] <Schorfi> ;)
[13:28] <jhutchins> crs: The problem is there is no complete kde4 desktop.
[13:29] <crs> jhutchins: Yes, i know the story about kde4. Just have been looking for package which is gonna install as a deps the rest of kde4 packages.
[13:29] <jhutchins> crs: have fun.
[13:31] <crs> jhutchins: I wll. :)
[13:31] <crs> will*
[13:31] <ubuntu_> ae
[13:31] <ubuntu_> alguem do brasil ai
[13:31] <Chrysalis> did that myself but had nothing but problems with kde4 and removing kubuntu-kde4-desktop doesnt really remove anything
[13:32] <Chrysalis> had to purge the core kde4 and every app one by one ;/
[13:32] <crs> It is a testing box anyway :)
[13:33] <crs> oh, will test gnome as well ;p
[13:33] <Chrysalis> might aswell xfce too ;p
[13:36] <Chrysalis> i wish kde looked like xfce, not sure what is it with glossiness and round buttons here
[13:37] <frojnd> i'm trying to unzip a file but I get somekind of a note http://pastebin.ca/1022690 How can I unzip this file ?
[13:45] <dresnu> hello. I'm using uswsusp to hibernate my laptop running Kubuntu, but when it resumes the session is locked. Is there a way to resume directly to the desktop instead of having to input my password everytime? Thank you
[14:06] <Steve-cal> In KDE System Settings, under Sound, there is an option to "Run with the highest possible priority (realtime priority)"; so what does that really mean? Exactly how is it accomplishing that?
[14:09] <frojnd> How can I use without dekstop option. I'm on fluxbox and  when I've installed fluxboy when I right click on the desktop there is only nautikus options, no fluxbox menu ?
[14:09] <wayneandleanne> can anybody remember the command to enable libdvdcss?
[14:13] <wayneandleanne> sorted it
[14:16] <max__> --------- I need to disable the cache disk  in linux 2.6.6 what is the command? there are some parameters in the mount procedure?
[14:40] <Dragonath> transferring my linux installation from one drive to another isn't just about copying it, right?
[14:41] <xsacha> Dragonath: well you could install the distro clean and then just copy your /home directory
[14:41] <xsacha> or partition rather
[14:42] <Dragonath> hmm
[14:42] <xsacha> Dragonath: if you have the distro installed on both but just wanna transfer settings.. you'll find all user settings on /home
[14:42] <Dragonath> well I have a clean hd
[14:43] <Dragonath> that I want to transfer the stuff to
[14:43] <xsacha> all the user stuff and settings is in /home
[14:43] <Dragonath> the thing is that right now I'm running 7.10
[14:43] <Dragonath> if I installed 8.04 on the new HD, would copying /home still work without problems?
[14:44] <xsacha> might have incompatible settings because newer versions of programs..
[14:44] <xsacha> other than that, should be ok
[14:44] <zeno_> ktorrent keeps freezing when i have >50 torrents (still dls but gui not responsive) is this a known issue? (fix?)
[14:45] <sigma_> why are the devs constantly trying to re-invent the wheel? take for instance the new "printing" app. why design it if kjobviewer did the job just fine. how can i uninstall it?
[14:46] <xsacha> sigma_: but dont they all use the same backend? CUPS, KDE, ..
[14:47] <xsacha> all a printing program should be is a frontend gui.. so if it is designed different, it is entirely different
[14:47] <sigma_> xsacha: how di i delete the new one thats suddenly showed up in kubuntu?
[14:48] <xsacha> apt-get remove it, then apt-get install old one
[14:48] <xsacha> or just use adept to find printing apps
[14:49] <sigma_> xsacha: the old one is still there (kjobviewer), i have no idea what the package for the new one is called
[14:50] <xsacha> how do you run it?
[14:52] <xsacha> the command to run it is probably its name. if its a good little kde app, it will have a Help->About that explains the name, version and some info too
[14:52] <sigma_> it just opens when i print a document, lists the file name, status etc. the irritating thing is that even when the doc has finished printing it does not close
[14:56] <mycute7> 한국분 있으세요?
[14:59] <djouallah> did adept work behind an http proxy ?
[15:02] <frojnd> What is the package for installing calc ?
[15:02] <Jucato> !kde | Steve-cal
[15:02] <Jucato> Steve-cal: see the Kubuntu website for the KDE 3.5.9 announcement
[15:02] <Steve-cal> Jucato: Thanks I'll check it out now.
[15:03] <djouallah> eh Jucato thought you are off on irc ;)
[15:04] <BluesKaj> howdy
[15:07] <rophy> prob with knonqueror? help ? anyone?
[15:07] <jimmy51vinsky>  Hello, I'm trying to compile gcc 4.3.0 but get the message "Building GCC requires GMP 4.`+ and MPFR 2.3.0+."  What package(s) containg those?
[15:08] <rophy> no idea
[15:08] <BluesKaj> rophy, describe it
[15:08] <rophy> well youtube vedios just grey screen
[15:08] <rophy> and voice
[15:08] <rophy> video*
[15:09] <BluesKaj> which kubuntu version ?
[15:09] <jthomas> !blogging
[15:09] <jthomas> !blog software
[15:09] <jthomas> !blogsoftware
[15:09] <jthomas> !blog
[15:09] <rophy> version
[15:09] <Jucato> !msgthebot | jthomas
[15:09] <rophy> 3.5.9
[15:09] <jimmy51vinsky> so...  what's needed to compile GCC under kubuntu?
[15:10] <Jucato> jimmy51vinsky: try libgmp3-dev and libmpfr-dev
[15:11] <jthomas> can anyone recommend a good-for-blogspot blogging app?  Drivel doesn't seem to work for me any longer (for a few months now)
[15:11] <jimmy51vinsky> thanks
[15:11] <rophy> vesrion 3.5.9
[15:11] <rophy> jimmy?
[15:11] <jimmy51vinsky> ?
[15:12] <rophy> the knoqueror vesrion
[15:12] <rophy> 3.5.9
[15:13] <BluesKaj> rophy, first make sure you have konqueror-nsplugins installed
[15:13] <rophy> okai
[15:15] <rophy> well in the plugins section of knqueror settings it says that it uses the netscape plugins
[15:16] <rophy> bluekaj?
[15:17] <frojnd> how can I check if my nvidida is installed ?
[15:17] <frojnd> I've installed nvidia-glx-new for my fx550 if it's in the new list =9
[15:17] <rophy> i have the konqueror-nsplugins installed shall i install the konqueror-nsplugins-kde4
[15:17] <rophy> ?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> check by doing sudo apt-get install konqueror-nsplugins in the terminal , or you can look in adept
[15:18] <rophy> i looked
[15:18] <rophy> and they r installed
[15:18] <BluesKaj> not for kde4
[15:18] <rophy> yes
[15:18] <jimmy51vinsky> Jucato:  that did it.  i was scared those were gnome media player packages or something.
[15:18] <rophy> the konqueror-nsplugins are installed
[15:18] <rophy> and the konqueror-nsplugins-kde4 are not
[15:18] <BluesKaj> don't install for kde4 unless you are oin kde4 which you are not using
[15:18] <Jucato> jimmy51vinsky: and why would GCC require GNOME media players? :)
[15:19] <rophy> they r not installed
[15:19] <rophy> justthe konqueror-nsplugins are installed
[15:19] <jimmy51vinsky> Jucato: no... when i did apt-cache search the "gmp" related stuff said gnome media players.  i was sure that's not what i wanted
[15:20] <rophy> Blues Kaj?
[15:22] <richard_> still kind of new to Kubuntu...what if any virus scanners does anyone use?
[15:22] <rjune> I practice safe computintg
[15:22] <Pici> richard_: There really isnt a need for virus scanners in Linux unless you plan on scanning windows files.
[15:23] <richard_> i am careful where I go on th internet, but what about email scanning?
[15:24] <richard_> should I be concerned about possibly forwarding something? I am currently using Thunderbird
[15:24] <rophy> konqueror and utube videos .gery screen ,help?
[15:26] <rophy> [17:24] <rophy> konqueror and utube videos .gery screen ,help?
[15:27] <rophy> dear kubuntu fellowers ?
[15:27] <rophy> heelo ?
[15:27] <rophy> [17:24] <rophy> konqueror and utube videos .gery screen ,help?
[15:28] <frojnd> I've also tryed to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg but all I get is: xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration         file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080519162609    After I've installed nvidia-glx-new
[15:28] <frojnd> What could be wrong ?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> rophy, make sure you have the sun-java-common and sun-java6 installed as well
[15:30] <BluesKaj> err java-common
[15:31] <rophy> okai
[15:35] <Dragonath> my disks & filesystems module is giving me errors - says something ir orphaned or corrupted, any advice?
[15:36] <Dragonath> I need to see my sata drive
[15:37] <home_> aaaaa a server for undenet. europe one?
[15:37] <Dragonath> and figure out some way to tell my motherboard to try booting off that
[15:39] <BluesKaj> Dragonath, that usually happens when one DLs and installs an app from the internet and then decide to remove it
[15:40] <BluesKaj> orphaned apps that is
[15:40] <BluesKaj> !orphaned
[15:41] <frojnd> i'm trying ot glxinfo | grep direct to check if direct rendering is enalbled and I get: No protocol specified  Error: unable to open display :0.0   What am  I missing here ?
[15:42] <BluesKaj> Dragonath, try sudo apt-get autoremove
[15:43] <Dragonath> that did not do anything
[15:43] <Dragonath> it's been ages since I did a version upgrade
[15:43] <jurgen> opera under kubuntu is not showing any videos. Plugins are installed. Other browsers do play video. What do I need to check/change to make opera play video?
[15:43] <Dragonath> I don't recall messing with the disks & filesystems module either
[15:43] <Dragonath> yet it doesn't work :)
[15:45] <jcfp> Dragonath: is it the systemsetting module you're talking about?
[15:45] <Dragonath> yes
[15:46] <tales_2010> I installed some packets required by GTK+, but now the letters on GTK applications are all messes like that.. http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1224/snapshot2kt0.png .. does anyone how to solve that?
[15:48] <jcfp> Dragonath: filed a bug about that long ago, it was fixed at some point but apparently not. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/109273
[15:50] <jcfp> Time to reopen - it still shows this error on hardy here too :(
[15:50] <psyco> hey, anyone have a good program for changing FLAC to MP3? Preferably GUI.
[15:50] <StainlessSteelRa> running kubuntu hardy on lenovo laptop. I've seen in the past a gui interface to control (read enable/disable) my touchpad.  The applet sat in the panel.  I can't recall the name of the application though.  Any help?
[15:50] <BluesKaj> psyco, why would you do that..degrades the sound terribly
[15:51] <psyco> BluesKaj: I can't put FLAC on my iPod :(
[15:51] <BluesKaj> disposable music i guess eh?
[15:51] <Dr_willis> StainlessSteelRa,  there was ksynaptic. BUT i think its been replaced by somthing else now a days.
[15:51] <BluesKaj> what abot wav ?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> about
[15:51] <StainlessSteelRa> psyco: you might consider installing rockbox on your ipod and then you could...
[15:52] <psyco> StainlessSteelRa: Rockbox drains my iPod battery >.>
[15:52] <StainlessSteelRa> Dr_willis: yeah, I looked for ksynaptic in apt but no bueno
[15:52] <BluesKaj> regular synaptic runs fine on kubuntu
[15:52] <psyco> Also flac uses a lot of space on my IpoD XD
[15:52] <StainlessSteelRa> psyco: personally, I didn't like the interface... but I could play my oggs...
[15:52] <psyco> StainlessSteelRa: I loved rockbox but I had like a 5 hour battery life for some reason
[15:53] <StainlessSteelRa> BluesKaj: running synaptic loads the aptitude gui...
[15:53] <BluesKaj> well. if yo like flangy distorted sound psyco , be my guest ...dunno =how ppl can listen to mp3 music
[15:54] <Dr_willis> i cant tell the differance in my Kenny. G.
[15:54] <Dr_willis> :P
[15:54] <BluesKaj> StainlessSteelRa, so...... ?
[15:54] <Dr_willis> There is a TOUCHPAD tool thats has a name Similer to the package manager tools name.
[15:54] <Dr_willis> dont get the 2 confused. :)
[15:54] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, puhleese ....
[15:55] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  honestly.. cant tell.   Wait till you are an old factory worker.
[15:55] <StainlessSteelRa> BluesKaj: well, unless I'm missing your point, I'm trying to install ksynaptic (or it's equivelent) which is the applet panel gui to control my touch pad...
[15:55] <psyco> BluesKaj: I use flac on my computer just not on my iPod.
[15:55] <BluesKaj> I worked in a paper mill lab for 32 yrs ...
[15:55] <StainlessSteelRa> BluesKaj: if you are suggesting I use synaptic to find it, the I understand (but I'd done that already).
[15:55] <psyco> But I need a good audio conversion program.
[15:56] <StainlessSteelRa> BluesKaj: if you were suggesting I use synaptic as a gui to contorl my touchpad, you are mistaken or again I've misunderstood.
[15:56] <Dr_willis> The touchpad ksynaptic and gsynaptic tools have been replaced/updated - i recall from the  homepage of the tools.
[15:56] <BluesKaj> touchpad ?
[15:56] <StainlessSteelRa> Dr_willis: searching web now...
[15:57] <StainlessSteelRa> BluesKaj: little square touch-sensative pad on laptops...
[15:57] <StainlessSteelRa> BluesKaj: quite annoying to those of us who prefer the touchpoint (or pencil eraser) to control the mouse.  I need a way to easily enable/disable so when my wife uses lappy she can enable it and when I use it I can disable it... gui preferred for her sake.
[15:58] <Dr_willis> gsynaptics   - is the name of the old tool.
[15:58] <Dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[15:58] <DexterF> geforce 7600 on hardy - enabled nvidia driver from hardware drivers manager, next login it was disabled again. now what? need to reconf X?
[15:59] <StainlessSteelRa> I have gsynaptics installed, but it doesn't look/behave the same as the applet I'd used in the past...
[15:59] <Dr_willis> synclient can be used to adjust touchpad settings from the command line. This will work even if a GUI Preference tool is installed.
[15:59] <Dr_willis> tools mentioned are ---------> synclient, syndaemon, gsynaptics, ksynaptics, and qsynaptics
[16:00] <StainlessSteelRa> I sand corrected, gsynaptic does enable/disable touchpad.  it just doesn't sit on the panel.. I will keep poking at things.
[16:00] <BluesKaj> psyco, 'soundconverter' , but you'll need GStreamer LAME plugin as well
[16:00]  * StainlessSteelRa reading helpful link now
[16:01] <derdui_> Hi, does anybody know how i find out, which hardware i have installed? especially my ethernetadapter
[16:01] <Dr_willis> StainlessSteelRa,   some of the tools are 'applets' also - that you 'add to panel' i recall.
[16:02] <BluesKaj> StainlessSteelRa, I don't understand using a name so similar to a much used package manager (k)synaptic
[16:02] <Dr_willis> based on the name of the X driver I imagine/touchpad/company
[16:03] <psyco> Alright thanks BluesKaj
[16:03] <StainlessSteelRa> BluesKaj: take it up with the manufacturer... the hardward is the "Synaptic TouchPad"... :)
[16:04] <StainlessSteelRa> s/hardward/hardware/
[16:06] <cnstarz> does anyone know the link to the nvidia driver problem on 8.04?
[16:06] <jcfp> Dragonath: I've just reopened the bug. Please add your comments too. To see/compare the actual error, run the "systemsettings" program from the command line.
[16:06] <BluesKaj> StainlessSteelRa, when i saw the word synaptic I naturally assumed ...... I guess one shouldn't assume :)
[16:07] <StainlessSteelRa> BluesKaj: honest mistake! :) trust me, you aren't the only one.  It makes searching for info challenging, as you can't just search "kde synaptic" without getting loads of blather on synaptic as opposed to the touchpad utility...
[16:08] <Dr_willis> they should rename synaptic to 'SuperPackageUberDevice" = 'SPUD'
[16:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[16:08] <Pici> :)
[16:08] <BluesKaj> StainlessSteelRa, I can imagine
[16:08] <StainlessSteelRa> what's frustrating is that I found the little gui while I was building gentoo on a space lappy some months ago, then I installed it to that same lappy when I installed kubuntu, now I haven't got the lappy and I can't recall what the hell it was I installed... I suspect it was ksynaptic.
[16:10] <Dr_willis> http://qsynaptics.sourceforge.net/    12/01/08 --->>>   TouchFreeze for Linux pre 0.2 and annoucing end of {q/k}synaptics
[16:10] <mazai> hi all
[16:10] <Dr_willis> 'Touchfreeze' is aparently the name of the in progress replacement for q/ksynaptics
[16:10] <mazai> what is a language of this chat?
[16:11] <Dr_willis> !find touchfreeze
[16:11] <Pici> mazai: English.
[16:11] <mazai> fuck
[16:11] <Pici> !language | mazai
[16:11] <mazai> i`m from russia
[16:11] <Jucato> !ru | mazai
[16:11] <Pici> !ru | mazai then this should help
[16:11] <mazai> Russia is champion of Hokkey
[16:11] <mazai> Kanada is loozer
[16:12] <Pici> mazai: This is the Kubuntu Support Channel, not for general chatting.
[16:12] <Pici> !ot | mazai
[16:12] <mazai> sorry
[16:12]  * StainlessSteelRa checking out touchfreeze... 
[16:13] <Dr_willis> StainlessSteelRa,  aparently the code for the touchpad driver in X.. is in a bit of a state of confusion
[16:14] <jpj> hello
[16:14] <StainlessSteelRa> evidently
[16:15] <jpj> i'm using kbuntu 7.10. whenever i try to use add programs i get message saying that the data base is blocked. I have logged-off, reinitiated and turned off the computer, but the problem wouldnt go. Any ideas?
[16:15] <Pici> !aptfix | jpj
[16:16] <jpj> n
[16:18] <jpj> it asks me whether I should install the packet version o remain with the current one?
[16:18] <jpj> what is it talking about?
[16:18] <derdui_> wich interface do i have to tipe in ettercap, i thought it was my ethernet adapter.... but it doesnt work
[16:19] <jpj> ah, ok,it seems there was some uptades in somekind of limbo, i pressed y and its updating everything
[16:21] <jpj> exit
[16:21] <jpj> thanks a lot
[16:25] <cnstarz> how do i install the nvidia drivers?
[16:28] <Schorfi> install nvidia-glx-new
[16:29] <cnstarz> got it, thanks ;)
[16:29] <Schorfi> :)
[16:33] <enoj_> After upgrading to the latest version with FF3 beta, the Java support in my firefox broke.. Any idea how I can fix that?
[16:34] <cnstarz> i have a problem, the font sizes on my webrowsers and anything run under sudo are HUGE
[16:34] <cnstarz> the fonts are like in 9 Foot Interface mode or something
[16:35] <balthasar> !codecs
[16:36] <cnstarz> is that supposed to be for me?
[16:38] <balthasar> !ntfs
[16:51] <cnstarz> hooray i figured it out
[16:51] <cnstarz> had to use kde fonts in gtk applications
[16:52] <cnstarz> nvm that didn't fix it after all :(
[16:53] <jhutchins_wk> Good grief, the FF3 beta in HH isn't even a public beta - the first public beta was just released!
[16:53] <Pici> jhutchins_wk: Well, you have the answer then, it was 'just released'
[16:59] <cnstarz> hooray now i fixed it, had to change the font dpi to 120
[17:06] <balthasar_> !torrent
[17:25] <rysiek__> re
[17:27] <dennis_p> x.org and login screen have proper resolution but kde logged in and its system settings does not feature available resolutions.
[17:29] <dennis_p> how can i select the wanted resolution on the desktop without using broken kubuntu system settings?
[17:32] <avihayb> !juk
[17:33] <dennis_p> !nvidea
[17:33] <_CrashMaster_> !nvidia | dennis_p
[17:36] <dennis_p> thx, binary driver and 3d games work, selecting a resolution does not.
[17:44] <oramaq> hola
[17:45] <avihayb> I've installed juk, and it dosn't play for some reason
[17:45] <_CrashMaster_> !es | oramaq
[17:46] <avihayb> with each of the 3 soundsystems it supports
[17:47] <avihayb> !il
[17:48] <Steve-cal> Where do I go to search for known bugs in Kubuntu? (What's the URL?)
[17:51] <_CrashMaster_> !bug
[17:52] <Steve-cal> _CrashMaster_: Thanks.
[17:55] <ThRixXx> hey people! can someone help me!
[17:56] <_CrashMaster_> ThRixXx: We can try. Ask your question.
[17:56] <ThRixXx> im not a kubuntu live disk, trying to fix my windows but the livedisk doesn't support ntfs ?
[17:57] <ThRixXx> im famillliar with ubuntu but only have a kubuntu cd with me...
[17:57] <_CrashMaster_> I cant say for certain that the livecd will mount your ntfs partitions.
[17:57] <_CrashMaster_> !ntfs
[17:59] <ThRixXx> !ntfs-3g
[18:00] <ThRixXx> _CrashMaster_, do you think ubuntu hardy's livedisk has ntfs support?
[18:01] <_CrashMaster_> ThRixXx: Im actually kinda surprised that kubuntu wont do it.
[18:01] <_CrashMaster_> Are you expecting it to show up automatically?
[18:01] <_CrashMaster_> Or is it not mounting when you tell it to
[18:03] <ThRixXx> hahaha thanks man I got it working !!!!!!!!!!
[18:04] <gkr_> hi all! is there any difference between installing kubuntu, and installing ubuntu, then adding kde-desktop?
[18:04] <_sourcemaker> Is there a professional to use a WLAN card Realtek 8185? (without ndiswrapper)?
[18:04] <ThRixXx> kubuntu looks too much like windows
[18:05] <ThRixXx> gkr_, kde is only a desktop interface such as gnome!
[18:05] <_CrashMaster_> ThRixXx: So change it!
[18:05] <_CrashMaster_> _sourcemaker: Are you looking for native Wireless drivers?
[18:05] <ThRixXx> Can you ? Cool I'm used to ubuntu it has a nice earthy look!
[18:06] <_sourcemaker> _CrashMaster_: no... i only whant to use this wlan card... but it is not supported?
[18:06] <ThRixXx> gkr_, can you maybe explain your question more clearly ?
[18:06] <_CrashMaster_> _sourcemaker: If its not supported, you're stuck with ndiswrapper
[18:06] <_sourcemaker> _CrashMaster_: damm
[18:06] <_CrashMaster_> ThRixXx: KDEMENU / SYSTEM SETTINGS / APPEARANCE and you can change anything
[18:07] <_CrashMaster_> _sourcemaker: What are you trying to do that you cant use ndiswrapper ?
[18:07] <_sourcemaker> _CrashMaster_: I hate linux for this :-) Wasting 4 days without sucess.... only ndiswrapper... but I will not use this...
[18:08] <_sourcemaker> _CrashMaster_: I have bad experience with ndiswrapper...
[18:08] <_CrashMaster_> _sourcemaker: really? Ive had nothign but success with it.
[18:08] <gkr_> ThRixXx (sorry, not familiar with IRC so cannot address you correctly) was just cuirous as to why there are so many differences. Synaptic vs Adept package manager (which is awesome) keyring vs wallet etc. ts just a little confusing is all
[18:09] <_CrashMaster_> gkr_: Its all about choices. What do YOU want to use? You're not limited to only one option.
[18:09] <ThRixXx> Its your personal choice.
[18:09] <coley> Hello
[18:09] <_CrashMaster_> Hello coley
[18:10] <coley> What going on?
[18:10] <ThRixXx> I suppose it's there to give people a variet to choose from ?
[18:12] <ThRixXx> There are allso different programs created for kde, same goes for gnome.  I think they can run on kde or gnome, but will work faster on the platform it was designed
[18:13] <coley> So what are the advantages of kubuntu over ubuntu?
[18:13] <gkr_> ohh yea, the whole gtk/qt thing. i kinda like both, but kde is running on all my machines. cant wait for 4.1!!
[18:14] <jramskov> Question: I'm running kubuntu 8.04 (i386) and I have installed sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-bin. I have no other java installed. I need the JRE in Firefox 3. What am I missing?
[18:14] <ThRixXx> It's simmilar to windows and is easier for people who are familiar with windows to use!
[18:14] <coley> I see.
[18:14] <_CrashMaster_> coley: One uses Gnome and the other KDE.
[18:14] <_CrashMaster_> Again, choices.
[18:15] <coley> I see.
[18:15] <ThRixXx> jramskov, I think it's the browser plugin ?  You can get it from mozilla addons
[18:16] <Okiedude> What should I do now that I have kubuntu installed?
[18:18] <emilsedgh> Okiedude: use it?
[18:18] <jramskov> ThRixXx: I can only find a java console which isn't it
[18:18] <bipolar> Is there a way to set adept to never ask if the user wants to do a distrobution upgrade? I've just been handed a laptop that a user did this on and now some of our custom apps don't work. I want them to do normal security updates, but not this.
[18:18] <Okiedude> Why is it better than windows?
[18:18] <Okiedude> I usually play games.
[18:18] <Okiedude> Steam games.
[18:20] <ThRixXx> When you go on a website that requirs java firefox should show a "click here to download plugins"
[18:20] <ThRixXx> Have you tried that ?
[18:21] <trappist> !java
[18:21] <gkr_> So, i have this friend. very computer savvy. he knows his way around linux more then I do as he is a server dev, yet he refuses to accept linux as a desktop replacement. we argue over this from time to time, and he insists that the linux kernal is not multi media aware and never will be. any suggestions for a rebuttle?
[18:22] <ThRixXx> tell him ubuntu is evolveing faster than windows and soon, linux  >  windows
[18:23] <Okiedude> So right now it is not as good?
[18:23] <jramskov> ThRixXx: yeah, tried that, it can't do it and refers to java.com
[18:23] <melkart> gkr_: what are his arguments why linux will never be "multi media aware"? (what does that mean exactly?)
[18:23] <ThRixXx> Depends what you wanto use it for!
[18:23] <gkr_> ThRixXx, LOL have done, but his reply is something along the lines of critical mass :)
[18:23] <ThRixXx> It's easier to use windows for gaming...
[18:24] <gkr_> melkart, an example is how running multiple audio streams will bring the UI to its knees.
[18:25] <melkart> gkr_: yes (i havent experienced that myself) but why wouldnt it be fixed at some time?
[18:25] <melkart> gkr_: (because he said "*never* will be")
[18:26] <drif> gkr_: multiple audio streams - does that also refer to sequencer programs such as rosegarden?
[18:26] <_sourcemaker> can I extract the files of an rbm file?
[18:27] <_sourcemaker> i mean rpm
[18:28] <JoshOvki> !alien
[18:28] <gkr_> melkart, apparently, the kernel developers are not concerned about anything other then server performance and enhancements etc. Also, each kernel point update changes something or rather which breaks other things. untill a desktop kernel is forked and maintained, deskop performance will never match the competition. .. Well, its open source so i guess anything is possible
[18:29] <gkr_> !?!
[18:29] <dennis_p> music makers used to need to run a custum linux kernel you can compensate with speedy hardware like windows users did
[18:32] <melkart> gkr_: given the progress that linux made in the last 5 years in being good for desktop use, i dont see why in 5-10 years it shouldnt become near perfect
[18:33] <gkr_> the way i see it. install ubuntu and you have a fully loaded PC. office, graphice, browsers, irc clients etc. Install windows and you have notepad and paint. :) I think the best thing ubuntu and other distro's have is the package manager! Still. he is not convinced. ohh well, will just have to wait, then rub it in when every1 is using it :P
[18:34] <ali_> hello
[18:35] <hawkeyex> hello
[18:35] <hawkeyex> I'm trying to make a bootable bio flasher
[18:35] <ava> jj
[18:35] <gkr_> melkart, i totally agree, and since its 3:34am in melb .. im going to crash! c u all soon
[18:35] <luigi> Ciao
[18:35] <luigi> !list
[18:36] <hawkeyex> problem is, when I do a  mount -t vfat -o loop FDOEM.144 to /tmp/floppy, it works, but won't let me add 3 more files for the flash
[18:36] <hawkeyex> is there a way for me to expand that /tmp/floppy space a little bit more to add in more space?
[18:41] <frojnd> I've installed nvidia-glx-new package (since I have fx 5500) and when I run glxinfo I get: http:frojnd.no-ip.org/output/4.txt what is wrong with my X ?
[18:42] <jcfp> hawkeyex: once you mount that loopback filesystem on /tmp/floppy, space there is limited to the file size of FDOEM.144...
[18:42] <cnstarz> how do i make it so that i have to double click desktop items in order to open them
[18:43] <jimmy51vinsky> in this: "make ARCH=i686 CROSS_COMPILE=i686-linux- menuconfig" is ARCH=i686 invalid?
[18:43] <ThRixXx> !ntfs
[18:44] <mefistofele> Anyone know of a client for bdb that works sort of like MySQL Administrator or phpmyadmin?
[18:44] <jonorland>  /msg ubottu FUSE
[18:45] <hawkeyex> jcfp: so what's the fix for that? I mean I have a DVD RW to burn this into
[18:45] <frojnd> I've installed nvidia-glx-new package but my xorg is weired a little too small: http://frojnd.no-ip.org/output/5.txt
[18:45] <frojnd> what could be wrong ?
[18:46] <mefistofele> frojnd: missing quite a bit of stuff in that xorg.conf
[18:46] <rajiv_nair> hello
[18:46] <frojnd> mefistofele: yes this is default xorg.conf..
[18:47] <hawkeyex> also, is there a way for me to determine what kind of motherboard I have?
[18:48] <mefistofele> frojnd: the Driver under the Device section needs to be "nvidia" to use the nvidia-glx package, not "nv"
[18:48] <jcfp> hawkeyex: that's kinda hard to say without knowing what exactly you are trying to do, but if you want more space either look outside of /tmp/floppy or make that loopback filesystem larger
[18:48] <jcfp> hawkeyex: and motherboard brandname and model is available via lshw (I think)
[18:48] <rajiv_nair> Whenever im copying something using konqqueror or nautilus in hardy the system becomes really slow
[18:48] <rajiv_nair> i didnt have this problem with gutsy
[18:49] <rajiv_nair> any ideas?
[18:49] <mefistofele> frojnd: you also need to configure some modes
[18:49] <ThRixXx> !diskmounter
[18:50] <cnstarz> have you set up your desktop with nvidia-settings?
[18:50] <cnstarz> assuming you have an nvidia card
[18:51] <frojnd> mefistofele: can u explain
[18:51] <jcfp> frojnd: in that xorg config you're still using the nv driver so that answers your question about the glxinfo output
[18:51] <frojnd> jcfp: just a sec fro restart x
[18:52] <cnstarz> frojnd: do "sudo nvidia-settings" and configure your desktop the way you want, then write the changes to your xorg.conf file
[18:52] <hawkeyex> jcfp - I'm trying to flash my BIOS (they finally updated the bios, and I'm expecting another crash in 8 minutes)
[18:53] <frojnd> if I put in "nvidida" I'm not able to login I have to backup
[18:54] <cnstarz> are you saying that when you configure with nvidia-settings, and restart x, the display gets messed up and you end up having to restore to your backup?
[18:55] <frojnd> cnstarz: nom I haven't tryed nvidia-settings just when I change under deveice section "nv" into "nvidia" and than restart x I have to backup..
[18:55] <cnstarz> ohhh
[18:55] <frojnd> I have to install nvidida-settings first
[18:55] <cnstarz> yep
[18:55] <frybye7> Hi - who is using 8.04 with a usb- wireless lan stick??
[18:56] <frybye7> if so - did it work "out of the box" - which manuf. etc...?
[18:56] <awag> cnstarz: speaking of nvidia-settings, i use it to underclock my video card because otherwise it is unstable, however the settings are lost when i restart the machine, is there a way to save these settings?
[18:56] <cnstarz> write them to your xorg.conf, i think
[18:56] <frojnd> cnstarz: when I run nvidia-settings it gives me warning that I do not use nvidida driver...
[18:57] <cnstarz> oh when underclocking, i dunno
[18:57] <cnstarz> sorry
[18:57] <frybye7> cnstarz: why do you have to underclock.. should work with normal mhz or...?
[18:57] <slaviann> hi)
[18:57] <cnstarz> soundslike you dont have nvidia drivers installed
[18:58] <frybye7> cnstarz: sorry - wrong user - frojnd I meant...
[18:58] <jabba_> hey, i have a session i like the settings for on one machine, how do i move it to another machine?
[18:58] <cnstarz> oh ;)
[18:58] <guilhermeblanco> does anyone know if Sony's Memory Stick works in Kubuntu by default? I've heard that this MS does not work... is it true?
[18:59] <frojnd> cnstarz: erm... I do have... I've installed nvidia-glx-new and I have geforce 2 fx 5500
[18:59] <cnstarz> hmm
[18:59] <jabba_> guilhermeblanco: i have one here that works, but i'm not sure we have the same on
[18:59] <jabba_> e
[18:59] <slaviann> )
[18:59] <dennis_p> x.org and login screen have proper resolution but kde logged in and its system settings does not feature available resolutions.
[19:00] <dennis_p> on fx 5200
[19:00] <Ayabara> I'm gonna reformat and repartition my HD. How can I take a backup of my home folder and restore it when I reinstall?
[19:00] <guilhermeblanco> jabba_: do you know if it works in all linux distro's? maybe it's a module issue...
[19:00] <jbrown> hey guys i was wondering if anyone has any info on how to fix loss of sound for the optiplex 745 after upgrade?
[19:00] <guilhermeblanco> jabba_: could you tell me which module it is?
[19:00] <jabba_> guilhermeblanco: i'm using hardy + kde4
[19:00] <dennis_p> my fx 5200 worked normal on LTS
[19:02] <frojnd> damn it I didn't had installed nvidia-glx-new :S
[19:03] <frojnd> but my xorg.conf remains the same after it: http://frojnd.no-ip.org/output/5.txt
[19:03] <frojnd> what do I have to do with my xorg so nvidia will fully work
[19:04] <dennis_p> can i force kde desktop to switch to an x.org conf resolution without using kubuntu´s systemsettings?
[19:05] <jabba_> dennis_p: you can launch x by itself
[19:06] <jabba_> dennis_p: Xorg -config <filename>
[19:06] <dennis_p> in konsole?
[19:07] <jabba_> well you'd need to stop x first :)
[19:07] <reisi> is there any way to request new kde4.0.4 packages (with a fix for this http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161870) for huge regressions in khtml
[19:07] <jabba_> you can't launch an x server when one is running
[19:07] <jabba_> although you can use Xnest, but that's probably more than you want right now
[19:07] <reisi> heh, ubottu same bug as above
[19:07] <jabba_> reisi: ubottu is a bot.
[19:08] <ThRixXx> how do i add the universe repostory
[19:08] <Pici> Its parsing out the bug link you posted.
[19:08] <reisi> jabba_: i understand thanks :) wrote it so others could have straight link
[19:09] <reisi> aah, ok :) thanks pici
[19:09] <dennis_p> the resolution works in the kde login screen but after login the resoltions available are lower then stated in x.org conf
[19:10] <jabba_> dennis_p: how do you know the resolutions are different?
[19:10] <dennis_p> ha, the monitor tells the scan rates
[19:10] <jabba_> dennis_p: gotcha
[19:10] <lew> Hi eve....
[19:11] <frojnd> I've followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia and when I run nvidia-xconfig I got a new xorg, but when I've restarted I wasn't able to get into x. any ideas what else could it go wrong ?
[19:11] <reisi> anyways; now that i have embarrased myself could someone point me to the correct way to ask for someone to build khtml (kdelibs and ??) with at least that bugfix
[19:11] <jabba_> frojnd: did you look at the error log?
[19:11] <ThRixXx> !ntfs-3g
[19:12] <ThRixXx> how do i add the universal repostory?
[19:12] <frojnd> jabba_: how can I do that ? I'm running x like: startx
[19:12] <jabba_> frojnd: /var/log/Xsession.error i think
[19:12] <jabba_> lemme check
[19:13] <jabba_> hm, i don't have one :)
[19:13]  * Josh0vki is sad as he removes kubuntu from his laptop
[19:13] <jabba_> frojnd: so when you start x and it fails, it should spit out where the error file is.
[19:13] <Xbehave> how come ?
[19:13] <jabba_> frojnd: or you can start x manually and do Xorg >& /tmp/foo and then less /tmp/foo
[19:13] <Xbehave> Josh0vki: whats unfixable?
[19:13] <frojnd> jabba_: since I'm runnig x like start x.... maybe ucan tell me the command line so I can pipe somewhere the process
[19:14] <Josh0vki> Xbehave: nothing, im sending it off for repairs but they will only take laptops that have the orinigal OS installed
[19:14] <jabba_> frojnd: Xorg >& /tmp/foo && less /tmp/foo
[19:14] <Xbehave> backup your /home to a dvd and itll be like it never left when you reinstall
[19:15] <Josh0vki> Xbehave: already have
[19:16] <pim> Could anyone tell me what IOPL is?
[19:16] <Josh0vki> Xbehave: been doing this a long time, but its still sad to see it being replaced by windows
[19:16] <pim> I get it as an error message: IOPL not enabled, with wine
[19:17]  * Xbehave understands your pain
[19:17] <pim> trying to open winword in Kubuntu
[19:17] <pim> But I only get an error message
[19:17] <frojnd> jabba_: http://pastebin.ca/1022959
[19:17] <Xbehave> look it up in winehq thats more likely to tell you how to get stuff working in wine that us
[19:17] <Pici> !appdb | pim
[19:18] <john-scott> hey all, running 8.04 with KDE4, can't seem to copy and paste between KDE4 apps and GTK apps (like firefox). any ideas?
[19:18] <jabba_> frojnd: like i said, you cannot run x when x is already running
[19:18] <jabba_> frojnd: if you're running your irc client in xwindows, you'll have to stop it. (sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop)
[19:18] <jabba_> frojnd: when you do that, the graphic session will end, and you can re-launch X on your own. if you do that and it fails, you can view the error log.
[19:19] <jabba_> frojnd: if it fails to start correctly, it will tell you, and leave the details in the log (which can be very long)
[19:19] <frojnd> jabba_: don't understand I have to close x season and than start Xorg >& /tmp/foo && less /tmp/foo ?
[19:19] <Xbehave> jog
[19:20] <frojnd> jabba_: I'm on irssi running screen... so no need to disconnect ..
[19:20] <jabba_> frojnd: the way X works is it launches a single process that runs all your applicatiobns on top of that.
[19:20] <Xbehave> john-scott: try #kubuntu-kde4 or #kde
[19:20] <jabba_> frojnd: so you have to stop X manually, and then run it manually, without using startx.
[19:20] <jabba_> frojnd: if you're using irssi, it's pretty easy. Just stop X (sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop)
[19:20] <frojnd> jabba_: ok jabba_ just by typing X ?
[19:21] <jabba_> frojnd: then, run X manually (sudo Xorg)
[19:21] <jabba_> frojnd: if you have a config file you've frobbed yourself, you would say Xorg --config <filename>
[19:21] <frojnd> and than your command: Xorg >& /tmp/foo && less /tmp/fo ?
[19:22] <jabba_> frojnd: i'd just say Xorg and let it spit it out to stderr
[19:22] <jabba_> frojnd: it will tell you where the error log is when it dies. but X has to be not running for it to come up and give you an error.
[19:22] <frojnd> k
[19:22] <jabba_> (or, not come up with an error if the config file is correct)
[19:22] <pim> I guess the best thing to do is to install it via Wine.
[19:22] <jabba_> frojnd: you said you're using nvidia-xconfig?
[19:23] <pim> rahter than opening it with wine from the windows partition
[19:25] <Xbehave> yeah it cant eulate regitries that it doesnt have installed
[19:26] <frojnd> jabba_: when running Xorg: Fatal server error: Cannot move old log file ("/var/log/Xorg.0.log" to "/var/log/Xorg.0.log.old"
[19:26] <jabba_> gotta run it as root :)
[19:26] <frojnd> jabba_: ok.. brb
[19:27] <cnstarz> i downloaded filezilla off filezilla's site, but how do i install it?
[19:27] <cnstarz> it comes as a .bz2 archive
[19:28] <Pici> cnstarz: filezilla is in the package repositories, it would be better to install it from there.
[19:28] <cnstarz> i saw it in there, but noticed it was an older version
[19:28] <cnstarz> i'll give that a shot
[19:28] <cnstarz> also, is there a way to make it so that you have to double click desktop icons to open them, instead of just single clicking?
[19:29] <hpk> the german link please
[19:29] <frojnd> jabba_: http://pastebin.ca/1022980
[19:29] <hpk> kubuntu_de
[19:29] <Pici> hpk: #ubuntu-de
[19:30] <max_> #ubuntu
[19:30] <el1te> can someone help me with my sound problem
[19:30] <jabba_> frojnd: and did X come up as you want?
[19:30] <jabba_> it doesn't look like it had anything fatal
[19:30] <jimmy51vinsky> when configin'g binutils, what does AR=ar AS=as do?
[19:30] <frojnd> jabba_: maybe, but there was just gray screen an dI could point with X mouse and nothing more..
[19:31] <jabba_> frojnd: welcome to Xwindows :)
[19:31] <frojnd> jabba_: no X didn't come..
[19:31] <jabba_> frojnd: i thought you said your monitor tells you the resolution. and if you saw the grey screen, that's Xwindows.
[19:31] <Dragonath> hey, how is the easiest way to update my bios on 7.10?
[19:31] <jabba_> frojnd: all that other fluffy stuff like your window manager come out of startx (which is a wrapper)
[19:32] <frojnd> jabba_: my monitor says resolution if I click on the menu and than info...
[19:32] <frojnd> tells*
[19:32] <el1te> 1st instead of having to type 'sudo command' everytime cant i just login as root and not have to do the sudo command anymore
[19:32] <jabba_> frojnd: and when x comes up bare, does it have the resolution you want?
[19:32] <el1te> if i try ' su root' i switch fine but apt-get locks dirs
[19:32] <jabba_> el1te: yes, you can type sudo -s or sudo su -
[19:32] <frojnd> jabba_: don't know... its full screen gray screen...
[19:33] <frojnd> jabba_: no fluxmenu whatsoever..
[19:33] <el1te> ok thanks
[19:33] <cnstarz> would anyone know how to fix the login screen's font size?  look at this:
[19:33] <jabba_> frojnd: so your monitor itself does not have a menu?
[19:33] <cnstarz> http://http://cool.lololcats.com/random_images/login.jpg
[19:34] <frojnd> jabba_: my monitor has menu... I can change brightness position ..
[19:34] <dennis_p> jabba_: /var/log/Xorg.0.log says: (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1280x1024"  and runs at 75Hz then after login it reports (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1024x768_70" my monitor confirms while kubuntu systemsettings wrongly states "1024x768@63Hz"
[19:34] <jabba_> frojnd: but you don't know what resolution you're running at
[19:34] <frojnd> jabba_: I thought u asked me anbout sudo Xorg commmand
[19:34] <jabba_> gack, are you the same person?
[19:34] <frojnd> jabba_: I have the correct resolution only I don't have properly set drivers for nvidia..
[19:34] <cnstarz> who
[19:35] <jabba_> frojnd: and dennis_p?
[19:35] <frojnd> jabba_: my drivers aren't enabled
[19:35] <frojnd> jabba_: what dennis ?
[19:35] <jabba_> i can't multiplex two different x questions
[19:35] <dennis_p> iḿ someone else having fx5200 trouble
[19:35] <frojnd> oh ok :)
[19:36] <jabba_> dennis_p: what is it you want again? i forget...
[19:36] <dennis_p> thatś ok
[19:36] <jabba_> frojnd: and what are you trying to do again?
[19:36] <jabba_> just so i have the two of you straight?
[19:37] <dennis_p> my resolution is ok at kde lohion screen but after login itś too low and kubuntu system settings is incorrect
[19:37] <dennis_p> my resolution is ok at kde login screen but after login itś too low and kubuntu system settings is incorrect
[19:38] <jabba_> dennis_p: okay, i confused the two of you. sorry frojnd
[19:38] <dennis_p> jabba_: /var/log/Xorg.0.log says: (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1280x1024"  and runs at 75Hz then after login it reports (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1024x768_70" my monitor confirms while kubuntu systemsettings wrongly states "1024x768@63Hz"
[19:38] <frojnd> jabba_: to have full nvidia drivers support... right now I'm on vesa or I don't know there is nothing under device section bout driver...
[19:38] <jabba_> dennis_p: and your monitor tells you the resolution?
[19:38] <jabba_> frojnd: you're using nvidia-xconfig?
[19:38] <dennis_p> the freq
[19:38] <jabba_> dennis_p: and so the freq is correct at the splash screen but not after it launches kdm?
[19:38] <dennis_p> right
[19:39] <jabba_> dennis_p: and you're verifying this from the monitor's menu?
[19:39] <dennis_p> yes
[19:39] <frojnd> jabba_: I've told u: when I run nvidia-xconfig and then restart my X I'm not able to get back t oX. I have to backup file....
[19:39] <frojnd> :)
[19:39] <jabba_> dennis_p: so, why would the kdm freq be different for the splash screen? it doesn't manage resolution... (or does it? does it set your resolution based on your prefs?)
[19:40] <jabba_> frojnd: the manual page for nvidia-xconfig gives you all the settings
[19:40] <jabba_> frojnd: so i use something like nvidia-xconfig --twinview --LeftOf --no-xinerama etc
[19:40] <jabba_> frojnd: have you used envyng?
[19:40] <frojnd> jabba_: nop
[19:41] <frojnd> jabba_: I don't know sync and horizontal..
[19:41] <jabba_> frojnd: frojnd sudo apt-get install envyng-core
[19:41] <jabba_> frojnd: is this a sync problem or a resolution problem?
[19:41] <frojnd> jabba_: sync
[19:41] <jabba_> frojnd: and are you using kde3 or kde4?
[19:42] <frojnd> jabba_: erm don't know what fluxbox is running with =)
[19:42] <frojnd> I've installed first server and than programs  Ineed.
[19:42] <jabba_> oh, eeks
[19:42] <jabba_> frojnd: i'm not sure how you'd get envyng to run in fluxbox. in theory it should.
[19:42] <jabba_> frojnd: envyng goes and downloads the correct driver and builds a module for you
[19:43] <jabba_> frojnd: in my case, it figured it out well enough, and the nvidia driver doesn't build right on my system.;
[19:43] <frojnd> jabba_: I haven't downlaod or install envyng yet
[19:43] <jabba_> frojnd: but you have had x working without using nvidia-xconfig?
[19:44] <frojnd> jabba_: yes
[19:44] <jabba_> frojnd: so when you run nvidia-xconfig without flags, it breaks X for you?
[19:45] <frojnd> jabba_: correct
[19:45] <jabba_> frojnd: so you get to play with nvidia-xconfig settings. what kind of setup do you have?
[19:45] <jabba_> frojnd: e.g., i have two displays and a twinview card.
[19:45] <frojnd> jabba_: settings of what ?
[19:46] <frojnd> jabba_: oh, only one screen recommended 1280x1024
[19:46] <frojnd> jabba_: I have just fx 5500
[19:46] <jabba_> frojnd: ok, so do you want composite?
[19:47] <frojnd> jabba_: I wannt just to be nvidia driveres enabled, without for rany fancy compiz..
[19:47] <frojnd> rany=fancy
[19:47] <frojnd> I like my computer play fast as it can..
[19:48] <jabba_> frojnd: so, let's see. nvidia-xconfig --mode=1280x1024
[19:48] <frojnd> jabba_: just a sec
[19:48] <jabba_> after that you can get into the fancy stuff, but does that work?
[19:48] <frojnd> jabba_: let me try restrat
[19:48] <jabba_> omg root!
[19:48] <Tm_T> root: are we rooted now?
[19:49] <jabba_> Tm_T: the intarnet superuser has arrived! :o
[19:50] <dennis_p> jabba_: my login splash picked the good setting from the xorg.conf as i upped the HorizSync to 30-86 and VertRefresh to 50-160 and Modes to "1280x1024"
[19:50] <dennis_p> jabba_: /var/log/Xorg.0.log says: (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1280x1024"  and runs at 75Hz then after login it reports (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1024x768_70" my monitor confirms while kubuntu systemsettings wrongly states "1024x768@63Hz"
[19:50] <dennis_p> yes its the other guy again :-)
[19:50] <jabba_> dennis_p: so can you delete the other mode and force X to only use 1280x1024?
[19:51] <jabba_> dennis_p: and with the requisite sync
[19:51] <dennis_p> will try thanks
[19:51] <dennis_p> letme store this chat log first :-)
[19:51] <gustavonarea> Hello, everyone. How do I upgrade my KDE 4.0.3 to 4.0.4? I've already selected "Unsupported Updates" and done a full upgrade
[19:51] <gustavonarea> I'm using Hardy
[19:52] <jabba_> dennis_p: heh, no guarantees implied or otherwise :)
[19:52] <jabba_> dennis_p: and i gotta meet a coworker for lunch in about 8 minutes :)
[19:52] <dennis_p> oh great
[19:52] <jabba_> dennis_p: i will eventually return to my desk of course.
[19:53] <dennis_p> when will you be back? (cet 20:52)
[19:53] <jabba_> dennis_p: gmt is -0400 i think, so it would be 2000 gmt?
[19:54] <jabba_> dennis_p: i'm in washington dc, i'll be back around 1600
[19:54] <dennis_p> in the meantime I´ll be watching the tv premiere of the USA show jericho as you work
[19:55] <jabba_> dennis_p: in the meantime, i'll be eating fish tacos and basking in the sun :)
[19:55] <dennis_p> ah uhm :-)
[19:55] <frojnd> jabba_: no I'm not able, I made a pip, while running startx: http://pastebin.ca/1023017
[19:56] <hawkeyex> hmm
[19:56] <frojnd> jabba_: also don't know if this is normal I can run startx only if group:user of ~/.Xauthority is root root, even thoug I run startx as NON root ...
[19:56] <hawkeyex> how do I create a bootable cd so I can flash my bios?
[19:56] <hawkeyex> so far the documentations from ubuntu has been pretty virtually useless
[19:56] <hawkeyex> since I'm limited to 1.44M when I need about 5M or so
[19:57] <frojnd> jabba_: if ~/.Xauthority is me:me an dnot root root I can't run startx
[19:58] <frojnd> noooooooo
[19:58] <frojnd> jaba is gone
[19:59] <el1te> i need to run alsoconfig but i dont see one
[19:59] <el1te> where i pick my actual sound card
[19:59] <el1te> or chipset
[20:00] <jabba> yarr, that's better. sorry dennis_p i gotta bail out here
[20:00] <dennis_p> thx
[20:12] <ichigo_nl> !adeptfix
[20:15] <pim> In Ubuntu when I type ' followed by m it changes the m into ḿ
[20:15] <pim> how can I change this?
[20:21] <tux> hi can i  ask questions about kde 4 here?
[20:22] <tux> the kubuntu version?
[20:22] <Tm_T> !kde4
[20:26] <s_> spricht jmd deutsch hier?
[20:27] <kaminix> Why can't I run Matlab from the KMenu unless I choose 'run in terminal'?
[20:27] <Pici> !de | s_
[20:27] <s_> thx
[20:28] <tux> btw i downloaded the latest version of kubuntu and when i wanted to install it to a new pc i get the dialog box Error BoodCD with the button to "restart"
[20:28] <tux> BootCD
[20:28] <tux> can someone tell me what is wrong?
[20:30] <BluesKaj> tux, windows on it ?
[20:31] <tux> yes
[20:31] <tux> well before there was nothing on it
[20:31] <BluesKaj> preinstalled ?
[20:31] <tux> BluesKaj
[20:31] <tux> BluesKaj: at the beginning when i wanted to install it as a first and only OS
[20:31] <tux> it makes me these problems
[20:32] <Engelus> Hello
[20:32] <BluesKaj> did you install windows ?
[20:32] <tux> now i did
[20:32] <tux> and it still wont work
[20:33] <BluesKaj> so your BIOS boot sequence is setup to read the cdrom drive first ?
[20:34] <tux> BluesKaj: that is correct
[20:35] <s_> my konsole and synaptic variant of kde has crashed totally, more than that: its gone, what way might offer me to apt get
[20:35] <BluesKaj> tux, the kubuntu cd won't boot up ?
[20:36] <tux> BluesKaj: i get to the language selection and when i select any language of my choice I wait a minute then i get a dialogbox with the title "Error BootCD" with the button to restart the pc
[20:37] <BluesKaj> tux , your cd is obviously corrupted .. reburn to a cdrw if possible and try again
[20:37] <jthomas> Can anyone recommend a good blogging app for blogspot connectivity?
[20:38] <s_> again please whats the german kubuntu irc
[20:38] <tux> you sure?
[20:38] <jthomas> !de
[20:38] <tux> cause i have tried it on several CDs
[20:40] <jthomas> maybe the download is corrupted, do the md5sums match?
[20:40] <jthomas> tux ^ ^
[20:40] <tux> jthomas: how can i do that?
[20:41] <jthomas> the website where you download it will have one md5sum; a linux machine can test the file's md5sum by running (at a commandline) bash$ md5sum /path/to/file
[20:41] <tux> ok
[20:41] <BluesKaj> jthomas, a good suggestion
[20:41] <jthomas> Or, if you're trying to burn the ISO in K3B, it automatically calculates the md5sum
[20:41] <jthomas> in the burn sdcreen
[20:41] <jthomas> \\screen
[20:42] <BluesKaj> he's got windows
[20:42] <jthomas> hmm
[20:42] <jthomas> md5 in windows huh... not so sure then...
[20:42] <tux> np
[20:42] <tux> ill check it some other way
[20:43] <jthomas> md5sum on Windows: http://etree.org/md5com.html
[20:43] <guilhermeblanco> tux: there're md5sum calculator for windows freeware
[20:43] <jthomas> also here http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/
[20:44] <jthomas> and others, from my google search of 'md5sum windows'
[20:45] <oramaq> hola
[20:47] <navetz> cd ftp
[20:47] <oramaq> [14:47] [Error] Connection to Server #kubuntu-es lost: name lookup has failed. Trying to reconnect.????
[20:49] <el1te> " I'm running Kubuntu 7.04 so the directions are for KDE. From System Settings, Sound System, Hardware, check "Override device location" and point it to your digitial output device, in my case it was /dev/dsp1." where would that option be in 8.04 kde remix
[20:49] <hawkeyex> trying to find a way to flash my bios using linux?
[20:49] <hawkeyex> so far everything I tried to do has come up nada
[20:49] <el1te> all flashers use their own exe i thought
[20:50] <jthomas> yeah too often its a Windows exe; maybe DosBOX or FreeDOS?
[20:50] <el1te> no you dload a dos dislette to get you in a dos enviroment
[20:50] <el1te> than bam you flash
[20:51] <BluesKaj> el1te, it's still in system settings/sound system/hardware tab
[20:51] <el1te> checking
[20:52] <Kein> !adeptfix > Kein
[20:53] <el1te> BluesKaji dont see an actual "hardware tab"
[20:53] <el1te> i see a "drivers prefrence" and an "Advanced"
[20:53] <el1te> i mean "Backend"
[20:54] <el1te> i see a "drivers prefrence" and an "Backend"
[20:54] <wubrgamer> so guys
[20:54] <el1te> omg i cant read
[20:54] <el1te> i see a "device prefrence" and an "Backend"
[20:54] <wubrgamer> which forum is better? kubuntuforums.net or the kubuntu section in the ubuntu forums?
[20:54] <wubrgamer> also how do I uninstall kde4?
[20:54] <el1te> BluesKaj i see a "device prefrence" and an "Backend" <<<<is that what im supposed to see
[20:55] <navetz> is there a easy way to copy directories over ftp?
[20:55] <wubrgamer> anyone?
[20:55] <wubrgamer> i know ya'll know how to do this
[20:56] <el1te> BluesKaj i sure dont see it man
[20:59] <jthomas> wubrgamer: To uninstall KDE4, look for the metapackage kde4-desktop and uninstall that, I'd bet... not positive tho, and you'll be left without a GUI unless you put something else there.
[20:59] <jthomas> For the forums, I don't know, but the Ubuntu forums are often ubuntu-specific so maybe the kubuntuforums may be a good place...
[20:59] <wubrgamer> removing a metapackage leaves the packages
[20:59] <BluesKaj> el1te, click on the overide box and type  /dev/dsp1 in the space provided
[21:00] <wubrgamer> also !puregnome doesn't work
[21:00] <el1te> i dont see an over ride box man
[21:00] <el1te> are we talking in the same area
[21:00] <wubrgamer> that tip only shows you how to remove kde 3
[21:02] <el1te> BluesKaj K-Menu>Computer>System Settings>Sound ?
[21:03] <el1te> i see a "Device Prefrences and Backend" tabs
[21:03] <BluesKaj> el1te, kmenu/system settings/ sound system/hardware/overridxe device location
[21:05] <el1te> i dont see a kmenu/system settings/
[21:05] <el1te> its kmenu /favs/applications/computer/
[21:05] <el1te> recently used/leave
[21:06] <el1te> BluesKaj its kmenu /favs/applications/computer/recently used/leave
[21:07] <BluesKaj> el1te,  kde3.5.9 ?
[21:07] <el1te> kde 4.04
[21:07] <el1te> kubuntu 8.04 kde remix
[21:08] <BluesKaj> el1te, go ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[21:08] <el1te> ok thanks
[21:09] <DarthFrog> Hi folks.
[21:10] <DarthFrog> Does anyone know how to forward HTML email in KMail?  I can only do so as an attachment, which doesn't let me edit out the From: email address.
[21:10] <Engelus> ?????
[21:11] <chris_new> hi all right now i am useing the desktop ver of ubntu and i was wondering can it be turned in to a server
[21:12] <chris_new> hi all
[21:13] <crankcaller> what do you wanna serve?  web, ftp etc
[21:13] <jthomas> chris_new: yes of course.
[21:13] <chris_new> web and email
[21:14] <_CrashMaster_> !apache | chris_new
[21:15] <crankcaller> yeah you could add the packages required, but lamp setup best if you have a spare box
[21:15] <el1te> where is the asound.conf located
[21:15] <DarthFrog> e
[21:16] <DarthFrog> el1te:  All config files should be under /etc.
[21:16] <_CrashMaster_> crankcaller: Well, thats true of any web / email server setup.
[21:16] <chris_new> where would i get the packege ubto
[21:16] <el1te> maybe alsa dont make one there
[21:18] <DarthFrog> el1te: asound.conf doesn't seem to exist on my system.
[21:18] <el1te> yea same here
[21:18] <el1te> i think kde 4.04 screws it all up
[21:18] <DarthFrog> el1te: Try "sudo updatedb && locate asound.conf"
[21:19] <el1te> k its running 1 min
[21:19] <hawkeyex> ok
[21:19] <hawkeyex> question
[21:19] <hawkeyex> is there a way for me to manipulate an ISO to replace the incorrect file to the correct one that I have on my computer?
[21:19] <el1te> DarthFrog dont look like there is one
[21:20]  * hawkeyex is trying to flash his BIO, and found an Intel BIO ISO program that'll do the job, just need the RIGHT friggin' bio 
[21:20] <Daisuke_Ido> BIOS?
[21:21] <DarthFrog> hawkeyex: You'll have to go to your mobo's manufacturers web site to get the BIOS upgrade you need.  Nothing to do with Linux.
[21:24] <hawkeyex> blah, darth.
[21:24] <hawkeyex> all I asked was how to extract the files from the ISO
[21:24] <DarthFrog> hawkeyex: No you didn't.  But I'll tell you anyway.  mount the iso and get them that way.
[21:25] <DarthFrog> hawkeyex: mount -t iso9660 -o loop filename.iso /mountpoint
[21:26] <DarthFrog> Then your files from the ISO image will be mounted into your filesystem at /mountpoint (or wherever you mounted them).
[21:26] <DarthFrog> Note that the mountpoint must be pre-existing.
[21:28] <DarthFrog> hawkeyex: You're welcome.
[21:28] <hawkeyex> Darth: still can't get it working
[21:28] <hawkeyex> let me pastebin
[21:29] <hawkeyex> http://www.pastebin.org/37131
[21:29] <DarthFrog> hawkeyex:  Try "mount -t ..."
[21:30] <DarthFrog> hawkeyex: If that doesn't work, I suggest you try re-downloading the ISO file as it may be corrupt.
[21:30] <wubrgamer> so guys
[21:30] <wubrgamer> i just installed kde4 on my desktop too
[21:30] <wubrgamer> but firefox is ugly as sin
[21:31] <DarthFrog> wubrgamer: There are lots of other themes/skins for firefox.
[21:31] <BluesKaj> yeah, on kde4 FF is almost as ugly safari
[21:32] <hawkeyex> oh there it is.
[21:32] <wubrgamer> but it's all gtk
[21:32] <hawkeyex> found that stupid iso that will work.. going to burn it straight to hell.
[21:32] <wubrgamer> it's sooo horrible
[21:32] <hawkeyex> thank you darthfrog for your effort.
[21:32] <wubrgamer> gtk is horrible horrible double-horrible on kde4
[21:32] <wubrgamer> hwo do i fix gtk?
[21:32] <chris_new> hi all
[21:32] <DarthFrog> hawkeyex: You're welcome.  I suggest in future that you are a bit more clear in your questioning. :-)
[21:33] <hawkeyex> Darthfrog, normally I am - but this is related to that computer booting problem - this is *supposedly* the fix for it
[21:33] <wubrgamer> !gtk
[21:33] <SSJ_GZ> wubrgamer: Check out http://vizzzion.org/?blogentry=814
[21:33] <BluesKaj> wubrgamer, ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[21:34] <home_> !kubuntu
[21:35] <el1te> is anyone here running kubuntu 8.04 kde remix
[21:35] <NickPresta> !kde4
[21:35] <el1te> i need some help i been sent to 4 different damn channels
[21:35] <el1te> im there and no jhelp in there at all
[21:35] <NickPresta> el1te, no one is able to help you or no one is available to help you?
[21:35] <home_> is there a free live cd for Kubuntu 8.04 or i must download it
[21:36] <el1te> no one is helping
[21:36] <NickPresta> home_, you can download the Kubuntu Hardy Live CD free of charge
[21:36] <el1te> thats all i know
[21:36] <DarthFrog> home_: Yes, there is a free live CD.  but it'd be faster to download it.
[21:36] <home_> yeah but i have a limit on d/l
[21:36] <home_> i have the 6.04
[21:36] <home_> :D
[21:36] <NickPresta> and yes, you can use ShipIt to get a LiveCD delivered to you. It takes a bit of time, however.
[21:37] <DarthFrog> home_: shipit.ubuntu.org
[21:37] <DarthFrog> !shipit
[21:37] <wubrgamer> !ubottu
[21:37] <wubrgamer> !ubotu
[21:40] <BluesKaj> NickPresta, el1te is running Hardy remix and kde4 and can't find the override device location in sound system settings.
[21:40] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, ah okay. I'
[21:40] <NickPresta> I'm afraid I can't help either. =(
[21:40] <el1te> i just want to get my sound to work
[21:41] <BluesKaj> el1te, describe your soundcard to us
[21:41] <el1te> i made it a step further by checking on display OSS devices also in the "BACKEND" area
[21:42] <BluesKaj> are you gonna tell us
[21:43] <el1te> http://pastebin.ca/1023154
[21:43] <el1te> yes i was making a pastebin
[21:45] <solidstate> hi, how can I install what's included in ubuntu-studio?
[21:45] <BluesKaj> el1te, lspci | grep audio in the terminal
[21:45] <MurielGodoi> Hi, I have a ntfs partition in my sda1 which i can mount through "Storage Media" in Dolphin. My I have to type my root password every time to mount it, How can I change it to set it as automount?
[21:46] <hawkeyex> Yesssss!!! nailed that bios problem.. no more random reboots. *cheers*
[21:46] <DarthFrog> MurielGodoi: In /etc/fstab.
[21:46] <el1te> 00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce Audio Processing Unit (rev a2)
[21:46] <el1te> 00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)
[21:46] <el1te> i want the line-in on the ac97 to be passed thru to the APU optical out
[21:46] <el1te> or everything on ac97 to be passed to to the apu
[21:47] <el1te> either way
[21:47] <MurielGodoi> DarthFrog: which fs type should I type there? ntfs or ntfs-3g
[21:47] <el1te> kde 4.04 lets me move those 2 devices around when i select display oss devices also (checked on) but i dont think it works
[21:47] <kunim__> MurielGodoi: ntfs-3g
[21:49]  * MurielGodoi thanks to DarthFrog and kunim__
[21:49] <BluesKaj> el1te, you should set one up as the default soundcard by typing in the terminal , asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[21:49] <el1te> where do i find the exact names
[21:53] <BluesKaj> el1te, you just listed them above , choose one
[21:55] <el1te> 'asoundconf set-default-card "nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)" ?
[21:56] <dennis_p> i have unmounted partitions in kubuntu 8.10, how to automount them at boot?
[21:56] <el1te> can you pu the correct command for me
[21:56] <el1te> im not a pro
[21:58] <el1te> BluesKaj 'asoundconf set-default-card "nVidia Corporation nForce Audio Processing Unit (rev a2)" ???
[21:59] <BluesKaj> el1te,  asoundconf set-default-card "nVidia Corporation nForce Audio Processing Unit"
[21:59] <el1te> k thnx
[21:59] <dennis_p> for ubuntu one has to simply checkmark system tools /desktop/gnome/volume_manager
[21:59] <dennis_p> to automount internal drives
[22:00] <dennis_p> what is the equvelent in kubuntu?
[22:00] <x-X-x> i am having trouble running fullscreen games while using twinview
[22:01] <x-X-x>  i spans across 2 screens which makes it very unplayable
[22:01] <x-X-x> it*
[22:01] <el1te> BluesKaj no conigurator ran
[22:01] <x-X-x>  i have been told it is something to do with my metamodes. can anyone help me ?
[22:01] <el1te> do i need to run alsamixer or kmix again
[22:01] <x-X-x>  i am using kubuntu hardy 8.10 with a go 7300 on a laptop with an external monitor attached using twinview
[22:01] <melkart> 8.10 doesnt exist yet :(
[22:02] <x-X-x> oh lol
[22:02] <x-X-x> soz typo
[22:02] <x-X-x> 8.04
[22:02] <BluesKaj> el1te, alsamixer
[22:04] <el1te> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[22:05] <el1te> it used to work
[22:05] <el1te> maybe the name is wrong of the device
[22:05] <gillesmm> hi
[22:05] <BluesKaj> el1te, alsa isn't seeing any soundcard drivers
[22:06] <gillesmm> On 8.04 I don't have proprietary drvers ?
[22:06] <gillesmm> I can't install the nvidia
[22:06] <el1te> it was working
[22:06] <gillesmm> any idea ?
[22:06] <BluesKaj> !nvidia | gillesmm
[22:07] <gillesmm> ubottu: I speak about 8.04
[22:08] <el1te> BluesKaj http://pastebin.ca/1023181
[22:08] <gillesmm> BluesKaj:  sorry
[22:09] <Rioting_pacifist> is it possible to sync firefox3 bookmarks and kde3 ?
[22:09] <dennis_p> I´m starting to wonder why I´m trying to use kubuntu, its giving KDE a bad name everything used to work and now things broken in 7.10 are still broken in 8.4 and people are helpfull but the how-to´s simply don´t work anymore.
[22:09] <BluesKaj> el1te, look for an audio driver for Hardy at the nvidia support site
[22:09] <BluesKaj> !nothing works
[22:10] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu doesn't work
[22:10] <BluesKaj> :)
[22:11] <gillesmm> any help on nvidia on 8.04 ?
[22:13] <BluesKaj> gillesmm, In Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron use the Hardware Drivers Manager from K Menu -> System.
[22:16] <dennis_p> nvidia seems troublesome on kubuntu 8.4 try sidux or debian you can keep your home folder and settings. If kubuntu doesn automatically work there is a chance it will be a lot of work to get it to work. However if it does work it´s a great OS.
[22:17] <el1te> why cant i get alsamixer working again
[22:17] <el1te> it was working before
[22:17] <BluesKaj> el1te, you need a new driver for nvidia card
[22:18] <el1te> is there a dpkg --reconfigure command for souind
[22:18] <el1te> no it was working before
[22:18] <BluesKaj> before what?
[22:18] <el1te> the ac97 sound out and the optical out had a white noise sound when i tried to play .wav file
[22:18] <BluesKaj> when ?
[22:18] <el1te> before this command 'asoundconf set-default-card "nVidia Corporation nForce Audio Processing Unit"'
[22:19] <BluesKaj> try some music
[22:19] <BluesKaj> el1te, remove OSS if it's still installed
[22:20] <el1te> i dont think that is correct
[22:20] <el1te> should try and get the alsamixer working like before shouldnt we
[22:22] <ch3ch3> kate .kde/Autostart/startcompiz
[22:22] <ch3ch3> dans quel dossier est crée le script?
[22:22] <ch3ch3> je trouve pas kde
[22:22] <ch3ch3> c'est ou?
[22:28] <rogue_trader> all off a sudden, the icon of my start menu changed from the kubuntu sign (the blue K) to the ubuntu sign (the red and yellow ring). how?
[22:29] <rogue_trader> and how can I change it back?
[22:29] <rogue_trader> i run ubuntu 8.04 with kde4 as a secondary desktop
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> heh... thats weird :P
[22:32] <o0Chris0o> how do I use "kde-tweak"
[22:32] <el1te> is there a dpkg command that reconfigures my audio
[22:32] <el1te> i dont have any sound now
[22:32] <o0Chris0o> !audio
[22:33] <el1te> i need dpkg reconfigure command
[22:34] <el1te> that article you pasted dont help
[22:34] <el1te> i cant get alsamixer to work now
[22:34] <o0Chris0o> it does help
[22:34] <o0Chris0o> it is there
[22:34] <o0Chris0o> :)
[22:34] <el1te> it tells me to load the module then do alsamixer
[22:35] <o0Chris0o> sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source
[22:36] <o0Chris0o> might have to install alsa-source
[22:36] <o0Chris0o> how do I use "kde-tweak" I installed it from Adept, but can't seem to use it
[22:37]  * jabba returns and looks around for dennis_p
[22:38] <jabba> how can i tell my window manager to pop windows on one side of the screen or the other? i'm using twinview, so new windows show up in the middle of the display, which for me is the space between two monitors.
[22:38] <nosrednaekim> you can set "place" location in the kwin settings... right click on the title bar of a window
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> and mess witht he window specific settings
[22:41] <o0Chris0o> how do I use "kde-tweak" I installed it from Adept, but can't seem to use it
[22:44] <el1te> how can you tell which sound device "asound" is currently using
[22:45] <jabba> nosrednaekim: thank you.. where are the kwin settings? i'm on kde4/hardy.
[22:45] <el1te> i think i need to reboot
[22:45] <el1te> brb
[22:45] <nosrednaekim> jabba: right click on title bar->preferences I think
[22:48] <jabba> okay i see the configure dialogue, but i don't see a "place" setting
[22:49] <jabba> ah, there it is
[22:49] <jabba> under "moving"
[22:49] <jabba> oh that is so much better. thank you nosrednaekim.
[22:50] <nosrednaekim> YW
[22:52] <jabba> urgh, now kmix is crashy. :/
[22:52] <dennis_p> hey jabba got a little depressed as it didn´t work
[22:54] <jabba> oh boy. this is what i get for a live upgrade to kde4. i've got kde3 and kde4 binaries fighting for which one is correct
[22:54] <dennis_p> mhm, i wonder where xorg session resolution is saved maybe i could edit the file manualy
[22:54] <jabba> well of course
[22:55] <jabba>   /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:55] <dennis_p> yeah i changed that one but the resoltion after login where is that saved?
[22:56] <jabba> i dunno, i think that's a kde setting you're playing with. my familiarity ends at the xserver.
[22:56] <dennis_p> ah
[22:56] <dennis_p> thx anyway
[23:04] <djdarkman> how come I can`t find an option to use window decorations in the current CCSM?
[23:04] <djdarkman> (I meant emerald decorations)
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> check the emerald-theme-manage
[23:04] <terrestre> how do i connecto to a desktop friend trough vnc?
[23:05] <nosrednaekim> *manager
[23:06] <terrestre> krdc?
[23:07] <djdarkman> nosrednaekim: no option there, the problem is that I have to start emerald manually
[23:08] <venik> can anyone tell me why USB devices (keyboard, mouse) occasionally become invisible to the system upon reboot?
[23:08] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman: remove "compiz-kde" and then it will use emerald by default
[23:08] <djdarkman> ahhhh I understand
[23:09] <Dragnslcr> djdarkman- CCSM -> Effects -> Window Decoration -> Command: /usr/bin/emerald
[23:09] <nosrednaekim> or that :P
[23:10] <Dragnslcr> It took me a few tries to get it to actually work right, but I think that's because I don't have a very clean install of Compiz
[23:10] <mefistofele> can anyone recommend a good kde player for mod/s3m/it/xm music files?
[23:11] <Zeroc00l> hi all
[23:11] <djdarkman> dammm I was looking for this in the wrong place, thanks Dragnslcr
[23:14] <mefistofele> ah, nevermind, amarok does it
[23:15] <el1te> my sound is screwed up worse then what it was
[23:15] <el1te> what can i do to make it back to the way it was when i installed kubuntu 8.04 kde remix
[23:19] <Simonft> my swap partition is messed up
[23:20] <jabba> Simonft: what is the problem
[23:20] <jabba> Simonft: you don't have to use a partition for swap. if you like, you can use a file.
[23:21] <Simonft> free | grep Swap gives me this: Swap:      1650116          0    1650116, but that is only after doing this: sudo swapoff -a ;sudo mkswap /dev/hda4 ;sudo swapon /dev/hda4, and getting: darn it, i cant switch to terminal to fix it
[23:21] <jabba> you should not have to mkswap it
[23:21] <jabba> if it's swap, it does the right thing.
[23:21] <Simonft> the only think i can do on the computer right now is type in this text box
[23:22] <jabba> you're in the command line?
[23:22] <Simonft> i have to each time i restart, other wise free   | grep Swap gives me:     0     0    0
[23:22] <Simonft> no, i can't
[23:22] <jabba> you can't what?
[23:22] <Simonft> oh wait, ctrl alt f1 works, i can do that
[23:22] <BluesKaj> ctrl+alt+f2  , Simonft
[23:22] <jabba> BluesKaj: that's where i was heading :)
[23:23] <Simonft>  ican clisk anywhere on the screen
[23:23] <Simonft> ** i cant
[23:23] <jabba> Simonft: so what is the problem? swap? malfunctioning cursor?
[23:24] <Simonft> im not sure, swap seems to be messing up, and now this
[23:24] <Simonft> the computer will freeze all of a sudden sometimes too, and wil have to be manually restarted
[23:24] <Simonft> im on a PowerBook G4 if that helps
[23:25] <jabba> it's kind of hard to diagnose a system that has a bunch of things wrong. easiest to do one at a time.
[23:25] <Simonft> tell that to my computer
[23:25] <Simonft> i think it is all related, but i am not sure how
[23:26] <el1te> the sound manager in kde 4.04 is not using asound correctly is it
[23:26] <el1te> can  idisable the sound manager in kde
[23:27] <el1te> and just use good ole alsa and alsaconfig
[23:27] <BluesKaj> el1te, which kde?
[23:27] <el1te> kde 4.04
[23:27] <Simonft> does anybody have any idea? i was having the freezing problem before, and did a clean reinstall, and it is still happening
[23:28] <BluesKaj> Simonft, where on the disk and how large is your swap and what apps are causing the freeze up
[23:29] <Simonft> um, do you have a command to find that out? i can get to command prompt since it is open and alt tab works
[23:29] <BluesKaj> el1te, I think we referred you to the kde4 support chat once already
[23:29] <el1te> you did but that channel is dead
[23:30] <Simonft> hey, i can click again
[23:30] <Simonft> WTF???
[23:30] <Simonft> it works now
[23:31] <el1te> ok im back in it
[23:31] <BluesKaj> what works now ?
[23:31] <el1te> hope someone wil lhelp me
[23:31] <Simonft> clicking
[23:31] <Simonft> btw, things only freeze when firefox is open
[23:31] <Simonft> clicking happens unrelated to other things
[23:32] <BluesKaj> ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to the desktop , Simonft
[23:32] <Simonft> im there
[23:32] <jabba> el1te: what is the problem?
[23:32] <Simonft> total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached Mem:           628        363        264          0         33        193 -/+ buffers/cache:        137        491
[23:32] <Simonft> Swap:         1611          0       1611
[23:32] <Simonft> simon@simon-laptop:~$
[23:32] <BluesKaj> FF Beta3?
[23:32] <navetz> I am using a bash script to copy over ftp, when I run the command through my terminal it exits ftp when it is done (which is what I want) but when I run it through my script it does not exit. Can anyone please help?
[23:33] <Simonft> i think i found the problem, nothing is saving to swap
[23:34] <jabba> navetz: it probably wants a terminal on stdin
[23:34] <jabba> navetz: er, tty, not terminal
[23:34] <jabba> navetz: can you use wget?
[23:34] <navetz> jabba: I am trying to upload to a ftp server
[23:34] <BluesKaj> Simonft, linux likes to cache memory rather than swap
[23:35] <BluesKaj> swap is a last resort
[23:35] <Simonft> BluesKaj: well, is it normal to have absolutly nothing is swap?
[23:35] <BluesKaj> yes
[23:35] <BluesKaj> as long as you have over 1G RAM
[23:35] <Simonft> BluesKaj: ok, have any other idea why my computer keeps freezing while firefox is open?
[23:36] <Simonft> BluesKaj: nope
[23:36] <BluesKaj> FF is beta
[23:36] <Simonft> BluesKaj: under 1gb of ram
[23:36] <BluesKaj> it's still buggy on Hardy
[23:36] <BluesKaj> 512?
[23:36] <jabba> navetz: both wget and curl can put to an ftp site
[23:36] <Simonft> BluesKaj: im not sure, i got it from somone esle, i think thats about right
[23:36] <jabba> navetz: but if you want ftp to work in a script, you might consider putting /dev/null into it
[23:37] <jabba> navetz: e.g., <ftp program> <args> < /dev/null
[23:37] <jabba> navetz: or you can use screen. i use it to run a small apache and postgres instance from a script
[23:37] <Simonft> konq
[23:37] <Simonft> sorry
[23:38] <Herlaziness> hello how do I start pulseaudio in kubuntu?
[23:39] <Simonft> what is the name of the kubuntu browser? i will use that
[23:39] <navetz> jabba: I thought of screen but then I thought that I would still get stuck because the script doesn't exit lftp
[23:40] <Simonft> !internet
[23:40] <navetz> jabba: /dev/null did the trick!
[23:40] <Simonft> !browser
[23:40] <Herlaziness> !pulseaudio
[23:40] <BluesKaj> Simonft, Konqueror
[23:41] <rrossi> hi
[23:42] <Herlaziness> hello!! how do I start pulseaudio in kubuntu?
[23:42] <rrossi> hi
[23:42] <crimsun> install it, and invoke it manually in a konsole.
[23:43] <rrossi> any news on hardy ldap-auth-client??
[23:43] <crimsun> do not start it as a system-wide daemon unless you have a darned good reason to do so and understand the security ramifications.
[23:43] <Herlaziness> crimsun: I was about to ask how to start it as a deamon -- I guess I won't for now
[23:44] <Herlaziness> crimsun: thanks, I will give it a try
[23:44] <jabba> how do i change my keyboard mapping? (it was set to UK, I need it set to US)
[23:48] <byte71> how to configure ldap client on ubuntu hardy??
[23:49] <BluesKaj> jabba, system settings/regional & language/keyboard layout
[23:51] <jabba> how do i set it outside of X?
[23:51] <byte71> loadkeys us
[23:52] <jabba> oh that's useful. thank you.
[23:52] <Herlaziness> what is the best way to run pulseaudio in the background, without typing in kconsole everytime I login/logout?
[23:52] <nosrednaekim> Herlaziness: putting it in autostart?
[23:53] <nosrednaekim> !autostart
[23:54] <Herlaziness> nosrednaekim: thanks!!
[23:57] <jabba> how do i theme konqueror?