/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/05/19/#ubuntu-mythtv.txt

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* HaDAk waves03:13
Seeker`hi03:13
HaDAkI just downloaded the new build (well, new since the last time I downloaded it)03:13
HaDAkbut i'm having troubles booting it.03:13
HaDAkit'll load to the last little bit of the progress bar and just hard lock my computer.03:14
HaDAki've tried safe video, noapic, and noacpi03:14
HaDAknothing works. is there a verbose startup option?03:14
=== HaDAk` is now known as HaDAk
HaDAkany thoughts?03:19
trollboyIn mythbuntu, how do I direct Games to my directory that contains the games?03:21
Lud7773I'm trying to install the new mythbuntu 8.04 on my pc.  The live cd boots up normal and I go through the entire installation, but when prompted to reboot after the installation mythtv does not boot, instead I get a command prompt.  any suggestions?03:28
* HaDAk coughs03:37
Seeker`HaDAk: I'm not very good with that sort of stuff, so wont be much hlep03:37
HaDAk:(03:37
HaDAkit's just...sitting there. not booting. it makes me sad.03:37
Lud7773HaDAk: what is your issue?03:38
MythbuntuGuest85can someone please give me some system specific specs for using 2 dvb-s cards? am looking at building a box  single backend/multi front03:38
HaDAkhaving issues booting the live cd to install. gets to the last little bit of the bar, and locks up.  i've tried noapic, noacpi, safe video, and a combination thereof.03:39
Seeker`MythbuntuGuest85: what sort of specs do you mean?03:39
Lud7773HaDAk: have you tested the cd to make sure that it's not the cd?03:40
HaDAki ran the integrity check on it. it came out ok.03:40
MythbuntuGuest85hardware..whats in your box..03:41
Lud7773HaDAk: have you installed any other OS on the pc and all went well?03:41
* HaDAk nods03:41
HaDAki've got linuxmce on it right now.03:41
MythbuntuGuest85also I am on the java version here what irc server are we using?03:41
HaDAkfreenode03:41
HaDAkirc.freenode.net03:41
MythbuntuGuest85tnx03:41
HaDAknp03:41
HaDAkLud7773: i'd be happy with a verbose boot mode to see what it's hanging on..but i haven't been able to find an option for that.03:42
Lud7773HaDAk: hmm... I haven't tried but isn't the alternative boot supposed to be verbose?03:42
HaDAkwe'll find out. i'm downloading it now.03:43
HaDAkwas hoping to be able to avoid that though03:43
hllywood14ok now i can get off guest03:43
HaDAkwb03:43
hllywood14ok..can anyone send me some infor on a box they are running 2 dvb-s cards and catching 82HD?03:44
Lud7773HaDAk: let me know how it goes for you.  I've got mine installed but when I reboot the dang thing won't boot to ubuntu it takes me to a command line prompt instead.03:44
HaDAkwhat does the prompt say?03:44
Lud7773HaDAk: it's like a watered down ubuntu...  just says type 'help' for a list of commands...03:45
HaDAkhave you tried startx?03:45
Lud7773HaDAk: no I didn't but I didn't see as one of the command options...  I'll try it though.03:46
HaDAkif it's a bash prompt, it should let you run that03:46
Lud7773HaDAk: what I did notice is that I'm using eide drives, but when I type search my /dev I only find a single sda drive.03:46
HaDAkwell, it's booting off something.03:47
HaDAki'm going to try starting this cd in vmware.03:47
Lud7773HaDAk: good old vmware...03:49
hllywood14anyone using dvb-s?03:49
* HaDAk shakes his head03:49
HaDAkpvr-15003:49
Lud7773hllywood14: pvr-150, as soon as I get it going, I do have a twinhann I'd like to try that is dvb-s03:50
hllywood14know where I can find some info?03:50
* HaDAk would like to take this time to offer some advice on tv output03:50
hllywood14yeah..thats what I'm looking into03:50
HaDAkhttp://hadak.org/site/Blog/Entries/2008/5/14_S-Video_as_your_primary_video_device_in_linux.html03:50
hllywood14hoping to run 2 dvb-s (1 record/ 1 live)backend..multi frontend03:51
hllywood14need info on some system specs as I have a few parts around but have 2 buy a few03:51
hllywood14would  like to chat with someone running something like this03:52
Lud7773hllywood14: i had saved 2 twinhann's for that purpose... but if I can't even get it going with a pvr-150...  I think I'm going to be in trouble with the twinhann's!03:52
* HaDAk suggests perhaps linuxmce?03:52
hllywood14what model twins?03:53
hllywood14haven't heard of linuxmce...whats that03:53
Lud7773twinhann 102g03:53
HaDAkwww.linuxmce.org03:54
hllywood14have heard a few good things about in win environ..but i don't think you can run dual...win that is..I think in linux you have to blacklist 1 of em03:54
hllywood14ok hadak i will check it out03:54
hllywood14well maybe i will just purchase a few pieces of hardware and we can do a joint project lud7773..03:55
Lud7773hllywood14: lol... sure I'm up for a summer project!03:55
hllywood14i have a duron with ecs k7s5a around here..was thinking that would be a good backend03:55
Lud7773HaDAk: the command prompt thing I get is initramfs03:56
HaDAkoh.03:56
HaDAkthat's not even to a bash prompt03:56
Lud7773HaDAk: looks like busybox 1.1.303:56
hllywood14duron is a 900 i think but i always ran at 1.203:56
HaDAkit's not detecting your hard drive03:56
Lud7773HaDAk: I've checked the bios and I know it's there...03:56
Lud7773does this version of the software support eide drives or just sata?03:57
hllywood14i'm kinda new to linux put it off for a long time..I know what the heck was i thinking...but now I am trying at least so sorry i can't really help on many problems here03:57
HaDAkanything supports eide03:57
hllywood14lud7773 i have found that a bios reading is not always enough to verify working HD03:57
HaDAkLud7773: check your master/slave/cable select settings. often times, bios will see the drives, but if the jumpers are set wrong, linux will not03:57
Lud7773HaDAk: that's what I figured... but I'm stumped on this.03:58
Lud7773hmmm... good suggestion... I'll take a peek!03:58
hllywood14do you have a dos sys disk?03:58
hllywood14i would try that before teardown03:58
HaDAkdos != linux03:58
hllywood14if dos can see it cables should be fine03:58
HaDAkdoesn't handle drives the same03:58
hllywood14i know but from a diag point of view I have ran both03:59
hllywood14with good results to find simple problems such as this03:59
* HaDAk nods03:59
hllywood14prevent more work...and dusty hands03:59
* hllywood14 wink04:00
Lud7773I had to put new drive in...  pulled it from a different box... so box is already torn down.04:00
HaDAk's why i keep the screw off the side of my  case...or, in the case of my mce box, it has quick remove panels, and a swivel/flip hard drive tray04:00
Lud7773I did pull the jumper will see if it helps...  might have to reinstall.04:00
hllywood14also if you folks dont mind can I suggest a good free radio site that I enjoy and think you may...04:01
Lud7773suggest away!04:01
hllywood14i run an antec box remove side panel and drive bays= easy04:01
hllywood14ok 1 sec04:01
HaDAkmine is an antec box too04:01
HaDAkantec mini case04:01
Lud7773mine is a generic shoebox case...  with about 6 fans cause the little things gets extremely hot!04:02
hllywood14http://future-radio.llpool.com:920004:02
hllywood14enter that in favorite media app and listen away..04:02
HaDAkmy case: http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=1513004:03
hllywood14comes from gigacrew server..and if on irc on that server #future-radio you can request songs that will play04:03
Lud7773nice...  that interfaces with myth then?04:03
hllywood14case = old antec clone..chieftech or whatever they wanted to call it..I think ant80004:04
HaDAkLud7773: clarify.04:04
Lud7773radio station that hllywood14 was suggesting... just wondering if that ties into myth?04:04
HaDAki know you can drop a .pls file into myth, and it'll load it up04:04
hllywood14you can play it in myth media I think..not sure of that but give it a try04:05
hllywood14then yes cause that is how I load it from win desktop04:05
Lud7773nice...  It would be cool if you could interface hulu with myth...04:05
HaDAkit's being worked on04:05
HaDAkthey figured out how it pulls adverts.04:06
HaDAkthat's a huge step04:06
hllywood14lots of older music and newer..mainly a request show...I am a member there so thats why i always ask folks before just suggesting..I love it listen day and night04:06
hllywood14either of you know where I might be able to find the info I am looking for? or someone that has that kinda setup....and ludd I will or a couple dvb-s cards...thinking a twinhaun and a skystar-2 and we can start on that04:08
* HaDAk shrugs04:08
hllywood14sorry will order04:08
hllywood14thanks anyway hadak04:08
HaDAkmmhmmm04:09
Lud7773hllywood14: I've been looking at the mythbuntu manual and they have some suggestions... of course it differs.04:09
HaDAkalt cd seems to be working fine04:09
Lud7773HaDAk: did it boot up alright for you this time then?04:09
* HaDAk nods04:09
hllywood14i saw a few when i looked at it but nothing real specific..I know in linux sometimes things can be a little more tricky but work much better04:10
Lud7773HaDAk: that's always a good start!04:10
hllywood14but would like to have a known working example to start things out with as I said I am very new to linux..sorry I put learning off for so long..04:10
Lud7773I know that last summer I had the twinhanns working using vdr software and it ran well...  but most of the processing power had to come from cpu cause the 102g cards don't decode04:11
HaDAkyou should start with something simple, and work your way up.04:11
hllywood14how about this...would either of you now a good simple place to start? maybe a dummies guide or something..yes on software decode on twinhauns..also run a little hot04:12
Lud7773hllywood14: before investing $$  try something basic... then elaborate on it after you get done...  I've done so many of these little pet projects and unless you see some progress... it can get discouraging real quick!04:12
* HaDAk agrees with lud04:12
Lud7773I think the most basic setup is on pvr-150 if you have cable in your area.04:12
hllywood14well I know I can make it work in a win evironment so it won't be all for nothing..04:12
* hllywood14 smiles04:12
hllywood14no on cable04:12
hllywood14sorry typing sucks tonight..environment04:13
Lud7773doing these projects are great to learn linux...  I leaned most of my linux doing this sort of stuff... modding xboxes, to running vdr and now trying my hand at myth.04:13
hllywood14thats what I was thinking04:13
hllywood14thats why I thought i could start with something I really wanted ...aka media server04:13
Lud7773dvb-s a little more complicated cause it's satellite and you have to get keys and all sorts of stuff to try to decode.04:14
hllywood14networked home...not rg-6ed so moving tv is hard now but not if I have a backend frontend setup.....see the rewards04:14
hllywood14no prob on that..looking at mainly free to air stuff04:14
Lud7773hllywood14: gotcha...  well give it a whirl...  try with one twinhann...  once you get the first one going... adding a second one shouldn04:15
Lud7773't be to complciated.04:15
hllywood14yep...I know in linux the decode is virtual card dump..so the cards feed from memory or a virtual card..just worried about conflicts...   :<04:16
rhpot1991_laptoptgm4883 tgm4883_laptop ping04:16
hllywood14but hey I get married in 2 weeks and will be gone for another 2 so maybe when I get back I dig in..04:16
Lud7773yeah...  I wouldn't be doing this sort of project on the honeymoon...  cause you'll be divorced before you know it!!04:17
tgm4883_laptoprhpot1991_laptop, pong04:17
hllywood14also I found a link somewhere that using myth as backend you can stream to internet..aka work and anywhere I can get network....04:18
rhpot1991_laptoptgm4883_laptop: re video multi discs04:18
hllywood14yeah..she already says i love computers more than her....   :>04:18
rhpot1991_laptoptossing them into folders junks up the sort order04:18
Lud7773hllywood14: yeah... but you have to have a pretty good upload bandwidth04:18
nwidgerhey, anyone around?04:18
rhpot1991_laptopfolders first, files next :(04:18
HaDAkhi nwidger04:18
tgm4883_laptoprhpot1991_laptop, ah yes it does04:18
nwidgeranyone know how to set the default sound card in mythbuntu?04:19
tgm4883_laptopis there a setting for that in mythvideo?04:19
Lud7773brb04:19
rhpot1991_laptoplooking for one now, though there doesn't seem to be04:19
hllywood14yeah but if i drop qual on decode..upload small video to smart phone..unlimited internet..main focus..04:19
rhpot1991_laptopnope none that I can see04:19
nwidgeri have an onboard sound chip and an audigy, but all the applications default to using the on board.  anyone know how to change this?04:20
HaDAkO_o http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/8858/mariogg7.jpg04:20
HaDAkdisable the onboard?04:20
nwidgerHaDAk: how do i do that?04:21
nwidgerBIOS?04:21
HaDAkdepends on your board.04:21
nwidgerthis is a desktop machine04:21
HaDAkgenerally bios, but in some older motherboards, there's a jumper04:21
nwidgerhmm04:21
nwidgerill have to look into that, thanks04:21
HaDAknp04:21
hllywood14bios assigning irg to onboard first A hadak04:25
hllywood14i would say bios disable on sound04:25
ddgoosebah I just went through 8 10/100 adapters trying to find just 1 that would pxe boot proper04:26
ddgooseno luck04:26
HaDAkyou want my intel card?04:26
HaDAk^^04:26
hllywood14i have 1 i will share 204:26
hllywood14:>04:26
ddgooseI have 2 sitting here couldn't get either to boot proper04:27
tgm4883_laptoprhpot1991_laptop, the only other option I can think of is to manually put the stuff in there, don't grab it from imdb04:27
Lud7773bk04:27
ddgoose1 has the buggy 2.0 pxe04:27
ddgoosethe other stuck in bootp04:27
tgm4883_laptopthats what I did with my RvB04:27
Lud7773HaDAk: you got it installed yet?04:27
HaDAkit's installed...but locking up in the same place04:28
Lud7773HaDAk: dang...  no way to check your log files either?04:28
rhpot1991_laptoptgm4883_laptop: what do you mean?04:29
HaDAkbooting recovery mode04:29
rhpot1991_laptopI've done where I pulled the same info for 2 discs then went and added a disc 2 on the end of one04:29
HaDAklooks like an  x issue04:29
rhpot1991_laptopI don't see any way around sorting if I used folders though04:29
tgm4883_laptoprhpot1991_laptop, you can manally put the info in there04:29
tgm4883_laptoprhpot1991_laptop, that would work too04:29
rhpot1991_laptoptgm4883_laptop: still leaves me with doubles of some things04:30
* tgm4883_laptop is off to watch IJ: The Last Crusade04:30
tgm4883_laptoprhpot1991_laptop, yea I don't think that mythvideo was really meant for this sort of thing04:30
tgm4883_laptopyou could always ask what people do in #mythtv-users though04:30
rhpot1991_laptopya just looking at some sets that are 6-8 discs, gonna get messy04:31
rhpot1991_laptopthere was an unanswered thread on the mailing list that got me thinking abot it04:31
tgm4883_laptopmaybe it will be fixed with storage groups04:31
HaDAklooks like it's locking up on hald04:32
Lud7773HaDAk: hald?04:32
ddgooseI had to do that rhpot1991, added some multi discs, pulled from imdb, hand edited the titles, then set the play after order04:32
HaDAkhardware abstraction layer04:32
Lud7773HaDAk: hmm... doesn't like a piece of hardware you got there...04:33
tgm4883_laptopok, i'm really out now04:33
* HaDAk is guessing his pvr-15004:33
HaDAkblasted thing.04:33
HaDAklinuxmce didn't like it either. works great in another box.04:33
HaDAkmaybe it just needs to be re-seated04:33
Lud7773HaDAk: that or even try a different pci slot as well.04:34
rhpot1991_laptopcya tgm4883_laptop04:34
HaDAkyeah, i just swapped it04:38
HaDAkproblem solved.04:39
HaDAki pulled the wifi card and swapped the pci slot for the pvr-15004:39
Lud7773nice...04:39
Lud7773#join ubuntu-es04:45
hllywood14why?04:46
Lud7773sry...  I was trying to type in an irc command...04:46
hllywood14all04:46
hllywood14ok04:46
hllywood14---/join #ubuntu-es.....LOL04:46
Lud7773yeah...  it's been a while on irc!04:47
hllywood14same here04:49
hllywood14i was away for years...04:49
Lud7773hllywood14: have you got your myth installed?04:49
hllywood14I did a live version of ubuntu on this laptop I am using..haven't put mythbuntu on my big box yet04:50
hllywood14but I will in the near future04:50
Lud7773gotcha04:51
ddgoose-boxenwootah! finally got it to boot with a rom-o-matic.com usb key image04:51
hllywood14plan on the front ends to maybe be diskless...any experience with that?04:52
Lud7773can't figure this out...  when I boot with mythbuntu 8.04, it tells me that I have no /dev/hda but It does show a /dev/sda...  when I put in a regular ubuntu live cd, it does show that I have a /dev/hda but no /dev/sda....04:53
Lud7773hllywood14: no experience there...04:53
leprechauLud7773, that's just the differences between linux kernel versions04:54
hllywood14sata ?04:54
Lud7773I have eide, no sata...04:54
leprechaunewer kernels have no /dev/hd* ... all the pata/sata drivers got merged into the scsi subsystem04:54
leprechauthey are all /dev/sd* now04:54
leprechauunless you stricktly enable legacy ata during kernel load04:54
Lud7773leprechau: so just cause it shows sda doesn't mean that it's not detecting my hdd?04:54
leprechaucorrect04:54
leprechau/dev/sda is same as /dev/hda04:55
leprechausda == first scsi disk04:55
leprechaueven though it's technically not04:55
leprechauthey are all part of the scsi subsystem now04:55
Lud7773leprechau: thx for the clarification...  cause I was getting really confused...  just used to the other way.04:55
hllywood14well..now I learned something04:56
leprechauyeah it makes sense when you think about it04:56
Lud7773I'm stumped then... cause I've installed the mythbuntu 8.04 about 5 times now...  but when I reboot after installation it just takes me to a command prompt with a initramfs.  I guess that's something like a recovery mode.04:57
leprechauthe differences between ata and scsi are getting smaller and smaller04:57
leprechausata is basically the same as sas... serial attached scsi04:57
hllywood14lud7773 or leprechau..can you suggest some good book on learning linux while I am vacation? to know a few things when I get back kinda like linux for dummies04:57
hllywood14i have noticed that as-well leprechau even in win04:58
leprechaudunno about any particular book...but all the o'riely series are pretty good04:58
hllywood14i hate to say if but microsnot has had me by the short and curlies for a few years04:59
Lud7773hllywood14: I second leprechau suggestion04:59
hllywood14ok...thanks04:59
hllywood14will be buying tomr04:59
leprechauLud7773, check a couple things in your recovery console...05:00
leprechau1) check for any grub errors05:00
leprechauie, grub trying to find root on /dev/hd* instead of /dev/sd* or vice versa05:00
leprechaualso do an: echo /dev/hd* and echo /dev/sd*05:00
leprechausee which one your hdd is actually showin up under05:00
Lud7773trying to read dmesg log but scrolls to fast and nano doesn't work either.05:01
hllywood14when you get a few seconds leprechau I have a couple questions you may can help me with...05:01
leprechauthis is where it gets kinda tricky...certain chipsets don't play well with the new scsi subsystem05:01
hllywood14nothing big05:01
Lud7773leprechau: I do show a /dev/sda05:01
leprechauso they run under legacy mode as /dev/hd*05:01
leprechauLud7773, can you echo /dev/sd*05:01
leprechauin your console you get after boot?05:02
leprechauit should show your partitions05:02
Lud7773leprechau: doesn't show me the partitions just /dev/sda05:02
leprechauLud7773, check echo /dev/hd*05:02
Lud7773leprechau: nothing... just returns /dev/hd*05:03
leprechaucool05:03
leprechauso now...next step05:03
leprechaureboot...and catch the screen when it first starts to load05:03
leprechauthat says... press blah blah for menu or grub or something like that05:03
leprechauand we'll check your grub config05:03
Lud7773get into the grub menu05:03
leprechauyessir05:04
leprechauhllywood14, go ahead and ask05:04
Lud7773so get into the command line?05:04
leprechauwell it should take you to the grub menu05:04
leprechauand then you should have an option at the bottom05:04
leprechauto edit it05:04
leprechauline editor05:04
hllywood14you know anything about dvb-s cards?05:05
Lud7773k I did 'c' for command line.05:05
leprechaucan you cat /boot/grub/menu.lst05:05
leprechauyour partitions might not be mounted yet05:06
Lud7773yup looking at the menu.lst05:06
leprechauwhat's root say...and your kernel line05:06
Lud7773leprechau: ahh... you're right... it's got hd0,0 instead of sd0,005:07
leprechauwell hd0,0 is okay in grub05:07
Lud7773kernet is vmlinuz-2.6.24.16 generic05:07
Lud7773root (hd0,0) kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic root=uuid=1f86c08.... ro quiet splash05:09
hllywood14leprechau: you know anything about dvb-s cards?05:10
leprechauLud7773, check... /lib/udev/vol_id /dev/sda1|grep UUID05:11
leprechaufirst line should match what you have in  your grub root=uuid=.....05:11
leprechauhllywood14, naw sorry...i haven't ever had satellite :/05:12
hllywood14tnx05:12
Lud7773leprechau: trying to find the sda1 in that directory structure you gave me but not having much luck.05:15
Lud7773stops at vol_id05:16
leprechauyou should be able to type exactly: /lib/udev/vol_id /dev/sda1|grep UUID05:16
Lud7773I get unrecognized command.05:16
leprechauhrm05:17
leprechauls -la /dev/sd*05:17
Lud7773ls is another unrecognized command.05:17
leprechauecho /dev/sd*05:17
Lud7773unrecognized...05:18
Lud7773my prompt says grub>05:18
leprechauOHH05:18
leprechauhehe05:18
leprechauyou're still in grub05:18
Lud7773yup.05:18
leprechauloader05:18
leprechau;}05:18
leprechauhehe05:18
leprechausorry05:18
leprechaujust exit out of that05:18
Lud7773k so I'll just reboot.05:19
Lud7773get into the initramfs05:19
leprechauhehe aight ;p05:19
Lud7773just reading stuff online, I guess I should check my fstab while I'm at it.05:21
leprechauthat too05:22
leprechaualso...something that kinda caught my eye...05:22
fedyahey, I am thinking on installing mythbuntu on an HTPC that will be in my living room with a combined frontend/backend.  It will also function as my NAS.  I was wondering if someone can help me with a few questions, 1. Will I be able to run remote batch jobs through telnet and other services to utilize the processor power of this server without interrupting the person watching TV at the time.  Wife wouldn't be too pleased :).  Also, does anyone know if05:22
fedyaThanks for any help05:22
leprechau<leprechau> it should show your partitions05:22
leprechau<Lud7773> leprechau: doesn't show me the partitions just /dev/sda05:22
leprechauyou should see something like....05:23
leprechauroot@mediabox:~# echo /dev/sd*05:23
leprechau/dev/sda /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sda505:23
Lud7773yup...  there is no /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2 none of that.05:23
leprechauthat's a problem05:23
leprechauone of 2 things.... either the kernel..for whatever reason... isn't reading your disks partition map correctly05:23
leprechauor... your disk didn't get partitioned correctly during install05:24
Lud7773hmm...  I'm thinking that I should perhaps consider installing an older version of this mythbuntu...05:24
leprechau8.04 worked fine for me05:25
leprechauthat's where that paste is from05:25
Lud7773I tried /lib/udev/vol_id/dev/sda1 and got "not found"05:25
Lud7773that would make sense cause I don't show a /dev/sda105:25
leprechauwell that's prolly cause /lib doesn't exist05:25
leprechauexactly05:25
leprechauthat's it05:25
leprechaudoes the installer come up okay for you?05:26
leprechautry doing the 'auto prepare'05:26
Lud7773when I run the live cd?05:26
leprechauyessir05:26
Lud7773yeah...  it brings up the partition option and detect the drive...  I've been selecting guided use entire drive...  and the installation seems to go over just fine.05:27
Lud7773perhaps I should try to it manually this time05:27
leprechauI would... simplest setup... /boot 100MB max ... swap of 1G or so.... and then just all the rest in /05:29
leprechauof course...it's usually a good idea to split up / a bit more if you are gonna use the local disk alot05:29
Lud7773yeah... that's basically what I normally do...  I was just a it lazy and thought I'd let it do it for me.05:29
Lud7773I would normally have a second drive with about 360gb for the recordings.05:30
leprechauyeah I have all my recordings/etc... all nfs mounted05:31
leprechaurecordings/videos/music/whatnot05:31
Lud7773yeah...  I have a server that I have with a terra byte of storage just for my tunes and videos...  I'll probably see if I can map to that drive.05:32
Lud7773can myth read iso?05:32
leprechauyep05:34
leprechaui don't have any physical dvds anymore that I use05:34
leprechaueven ones I buy i just h264/ac3 em...or make an iso if they are really good05:34
leprechauhandbrake is your friend :}05:35
Lud7773nice...  my kids like to slide on our dvd's on our wood floors...  that was the last time they ever saw a dvd in our living room... now I just pushed them to the server...  much nicer that way.05:35
leprechauyep same here05:36
leprechaulol05:36
leprechaukids would use em as frisbies or play dishes or something else really terrible05:36
leprechauhttp://handbrake.fr/ <-- awesome linux dvd ripper if you haven't used it yet05:37
Lud7773gonna hafta check it out...  I still use windoze for my dvd ripping...05:37
Lud7773good old dvdshrink combo with anydvd.05:38
leprechauohhh no05:38
leprechau;p05:38
leprechauhandbrake is awesome05:38
leprechauh264/mkv/ac305:38
Lud7773does it take care of the encoding issues?05:38
leprechau1.4GB and looks just as good and sounds just as good as a dvd05:38
Lud77731.4gb...  that cuts tons... most dvd's are about 4gb each!05:39
leprechauhandbrake -v --cpu 2 --input /dev/sr0 --title 1 --output /store/RippingTemp/new.mkv --format mkv --crop --encoder x264 --size 1400 --two-pass --turbo --deinterlace --aencoder ac3 --audio 105:39
leprechauwait about 20 mins or so on a p4 3Ghz and you're done05:39
leprechauthere is a gui for it on the linux side now too05:39
leprechauif you don't like command line05:40
Lud7773I don't mind command line...  gets things done faster...05:40
leprechauyep that's my feeling most of the time too05:40
Lud7773so you don't have issues with the copyright protection that they put on the dvd's with handbrake?05:40
leprechauhaven't had any yet05:41
leprechauand i've done tons05:41
Lud7773wow...  that would be nice...05:41
leprechauhttp://rippedwire.sourceforge.net/ ... if you feel the need for a gui ever05:41
Lud7773so you compiled your own or did you check ubuntu repositories?05:42
leprechauwell I don't run ubuntu on my main desktop...it's archlinux but I just downloaded the linux binary from the handbrake site05:43
leprechauthe cli05:43
rhpot1991mythvideo rips most dvd's fine, problem ones are easily ripped with ddrescue05:44
rhpot1991though I do iso's cause I don't care about hard drive space05:44
Lud7773doesn't myth rip to avi or something like that?05:44
rhpot1991it can05:45
rhpot1991iso/vob/avi I believe are your choices05:45
rhpot1991depending on quality05:45
Lud7773I'll be happy as long as it's able to read all of my iso and avi files...  right now I use my xbox for all this...  the wife has to call me at work so she can watch tv...05:49
leprechauhaha05:50
leprechauthat's why i put mythbuntu on my mediabox05:50
leprechauI had archlinux/mythtv that I had all compiled and setup05:50
leprechaubut wife had a hard time with it05:51
leprechaumythbuntu made it easier for her05:51
Lud7773that's what I'm trying to do...  I don't mind my xbox... but not very user friendly to get it going.05:51
Lud7773not meant to be a true media center.05:51
hllywood14lud7772 i found a little info on the dvb stuff...guy using twinhaun 102g and 1020A pent D 940 2 gig ram asus mobo...linux found default driver everything loaded fine he said..I should have no prob with that setup..also did hd05:52
leprechaushe puts on vids for the kids and all now05:52
hllywood14sorry lud777305:52
leprechaunice hllywood05:52
hllywood14so looks like i have a project..and things are looking up05:53
Lud7773hllywood14: you have a project alright...  I've done it with two 102g twinhann...  but since they don't decode...  you have to have a lot of ram and cpu power in order for the pc to do the work.  the twinhann use a bttv driver.05:54
Lud7773leprechau: My 5 year old daughter can work the xbox pretty good... has to show mom how she can pull up all her disney princess shows...  it's pretty funny watching a 5 year old showing mom how to work the xbox.05:55
leprechauBTTV :)05:55
leprechaui make alot of money off bttv chipsets05:55
hllywood14i think i will go 1 twin and a nexus-s or skystar2 one of those 2 combos in 1 form or another05:55
leprechauhttp://www.cctvhw.com/english/viewproducts.php?id=6905:55
leprechau8 bttv chipsets on a pci card05:55
leprechaumeans a badass linux based security camera dvr system with zoneminder05:56
Lud7773hllywood14: just know that it's not as easy as it looks!  especially with dvb-s05:56
leprechaucosts about 1/4 of what a zoneminder/windows system would05:56
Lud7773leprechau: nice!05:56
leprechauerr... geovision/windows system05:56
leprechauand you can sell it for the same price ;}05:57
Lud7773well...  as long as it runs stable...05:57
Lud7773sucks to have a security system that you have to reboot every night!05:57
hllywood14nice system05:58
Lud7773dang...  this mythbuntu is kickin my butt....  reinstalled it manually...  saw that the installer detected drive as /dev/sda and I partitioned it as /dev/sda1 = boot /dev/sda2 = swap /dev/sda3 = /05:58
Lud7773and when I ls /dev/sd* I only get /dev/sda05:58
Lud7773like if it never partitioned the drives.05:59
leprechausomething's not right05:59
leprechauwhat mobo do you have?05:59
Lud7773asus a7n8x05:59
hllywood14well..I'm off..lud I will be back to let ya know how things go..maybe i can get the girlfriend to cone off some money when she becomes wife..  :>06:00
Lud7773hllywood14: LOL....  good luck with that one!!!06:00
hllywood14yeah but it may work since its a new title..LOL06:00
Lud7773You're gonna hafta get a side job that she doesn't know about to feed your dvb-s addiction!!06:00
hllywood14i know...i like to tinker06:01
hllywood14i may put her to work 4 it06:01
hllywood14LOL06:01
Lud7773hllywood14: well..  I'll give you all the pointers I can come up with...06:01
hllywood14ok...06:02
hllywood14that will be great06:02
Lud7773hllywood14: check out hoochvdr.net06:02
Lud7773I think that's what it's still called.06:02
Lud7773hllywood14: sry... http://www.hoochvdr.info/06:03
Lud7773hllywood14: sign up and do tons of reading before posting... or you'll get flammed...06:03
Lud7773leprechau: hmm...  so what exactly is the initramfs?06:04
Lud7773I can't find my /dev/fstab in there..06:04
leprechauinitramfs is the initial filesystem...it's what's in your initrd image that goes along with your kernel06:04
leprechauit's what the kernel loads into memory with basic tools before your disks are mounted06:05
leprechauin your case....your disks aren't mounting06:05
leprechauso you crash back into it06:05
Lud7773gotcha....  dang...  wonder if it's the hdd?06:05
leprechaudoubt it...could be...but most likely it's an issue with your motherboard or bios config...or your ide chipset06:06
leprechauwhat board are you using?06:06
Lud7773asus a7n8x06:06
Lud7773older board.06:06
ddgoose-boxendoesn't 8.04 use uuid for mounting now?06:07
hllywood14tnx ludd hope you get it fixed im off...L8R room06:08
Lud7773hllywood14: take care night06:08
leprechauddgoose-boxen, yes it does us UUID06:08
leprechauLud7773, during the myth bootup with the live cd06:10
leprechauhit the advanced options06:10
leprechauor whatever it's called06:11
leprechauand pick legacy ide06:11
Lud7773k will do06:11
Lud7773got modes:  normal, safe graphics, user driver update cd, or OEM.06:12
Lud7773other options gives me acpi=off, noapic, nolapic06:12
leprechauis there a spot to add kernel options?06:13
Lud7773I can type in my boot options!06:13
Lud7773boot options boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz quiet splash --06:14
leprechautry adding on the end06:15
leprechauide-generic ide-legacy06:15
* Lud7773 crosses fingers!06:16
Lud7773well... it booted into the live cd...  what should I look for now?06:19
leprechausee if you have /dev/hd*06:19
Lud7773nope06:19
leprechautry: sudo modprobe ide-generic06:19
Lud7773kay... seemed to load it...06:20
Lud7773try ls /dev/hd*06:20
leprechaucheck now06:20
leprechauand check your dmesg06:20
Lud7773no /dev/hd* and the dmesg says ide0: I/O resource 0x3f6...  not free06:21
Lud7773ide0: ports already in use skipping probe06:21
leprechauhrm...lemme look how ubuntu does that06:21
leprechauwith arch you just use ide-legacy loader option06:22
leprechaubasically we need to tell it to use the OLD style06:22
leprechaunot UUID or scsi subsystem06:22
leprechaubut give you /dev/hda06:22
Lud7773hmm...  what if I install an older version of mythbuntu....  can I upgrade to the newer version... perhaps it will keep the old config and not give me so much problems06:25
leprechauheh06:41
leprechauthis is insane06:41
leprechauubuntu apparently has no way to tell the loader to NOT use libata06:41
leprechauand to fall back to the pata drivers06:41
Lud7773well...  I found an old... image of mythbuntu....  I loaded it and it's working on my little box... the video quality look poor on my monitor.... some static...  I think that's why I opted not to have it.06:42
Lud7773wonder if the new version will improve video quality.06:43
leprechauwell what vid card do you have?06:43
Lud7773nvidia 540006:44
leprechauinstall the proprietary nvidia drivers06:44
leprechauand nvidia-settings06:44
leprechauI can't beleive that ubuntu doesn't have a loader option to use pata06:45
leprechauthat just is one more reason I never have liked ubuntu06:45
leprechauthey try so hard to make it easy to use06:45
leprechauthey eliminate all advanced functionality and flexibility06:45
Lud7773I should have remembered that the proprietary drivers aren't loaded on default.06:46
leprechauwell hey... I may have found it06:49
leprechauit looks like you can do it maybe06:49
leprechaufrom something I just found06:49
Lud7773sweet...  whachu find?06:49
leprechauyou can remove all the splash quiet, etc.. junk06:49
leprechauadn replace with: all_generic_ide06:50
leprechauboot options boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz all_generic_ide06:50
leprechauis what it would be06:50
leprechauat least according to this thing i read06:50
Lud7773do you have url?06:50
leprechauhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/12981706:53
leprechauBoot to the LiveCD press F6 at the menu, then at end of the kernel line06:53
leprechauadd all_generic_ide press enter the install should continue06:53
Lud7773will try... have to swap hdd now...06:53
Lud7773well... that didn't bring /dev/hd*, but it did bring up the partitions for /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, /dev/sda307:00
ThorneyI can07:18
ThorneyI can't get my tv tuner to work. I am using ubuntu 8.04, have downloaded something like mythbuntu-desktop but it can't seem to tune in channels. I have also downloaded a few other dvbs tools like scan and dvbtune, dvbstream and dvbsnoop. Can anyone help me find why my huapage nova-s-plus wasn't supported by default like it was in 7.10?07:22
Lud7773leprechau: thx for your help...  gnight!07:32
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Thorneyis anyone able to help diagnose myth tv on ubuntu?08:38
Thorneywhen I run the command dvbtune -f 1183000 -s 22500 -p h -m11:23
Thorneyi get the following: FE_STATUS: FE_HAS_SIGNAL FE_HAS_LOCK FE_HAS_CARRIER FE_HAS_VITERBI FE_HAS_SYNC11:23
ThorneyFE READ UNCORRECTED BLOCKS: : Operation not supported11:23
ThorneySignal=63232, Verror=0, SNR=61434dB, BlockErrors=0, (S|L|C|V|SY|)11:23
ThorneyDoes anyone know why? Cheers!11:23
lagathe driver doesn't support FE READ UNCORRECTED BLOCKS ?11:27
Thorneydmesg | grep dvb gives :[   87.782839] cx88/2: cx2388x dvb driver version 0.0.6 loaded11:34
Thorney[   87.782844] cx88/2: registering cx8802 driver, type: dvb access: shared11:34
Thorneyaccording to http://stevepugh.co.uk/mythtv/ for ubuntu 6 i have the right driver - also it worked on my other pc with ubuntu 7 last year11:38
ThorneyThe closest problem I can find with google is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-656920.html but unlike this person my scan doesnt work instead it produces the output=: WARNING: filter timeout pid 0x0011       WARNING: filter timeout pid 0x000011:45
propagandhiguys when i adjust the volume in tv it does nothing, but when watching movies it is fine13:26
sardiskanneed a little help here15:08
sabhain'sup?15:09
sardiskanIf I play a DVD from a regular DVD player, the volume is fine....but if I play a DVD from my mythbox, the volume is VERY low. I can turn the volume of the TV and the Mythbox all the way up and you can hear it...but if anything else is making noise...it drowns it out. It's like I need more power to the audio or something15:09
sardiskansame thing during playback and the LiveTV is kind of soft too15:10
sardiskanplayback of avi's and DVD's are at 100%15:10
sardiskanLiveTV is at about 90% and gives me the same volume as the 100% on DVD and avi playback15:10
sardiskan100% on TV and Mythbox should be blairing.15:10
sabhainSounds like the PCM channel on your sound settings might be low or muted?15:11
sardiskanI"ve turned the PCM volume to 100% within the mythtv config15:11
sabhainwhat does "alsamixer" tell you it's at?  command line15:11
sardiskanI have the "Master" volume and the "PCM" volume...also, I wasn't able to control the volume on the TV OR DVD until I changed some stuff in the audio setup...don't remember exactly which it was..but it was something to do with the PCM/Master mixer.15:12
sardiskanjust type "alsamixer" at the CLI?15:12
sabhainright15:13
sabhainanyone here use mvpmc?15:42
sardiskansabhain...I'll have to try your approach when I get back home...but once I run this command...what should I do if the volume is set low?15:52
sabhainsardiskan, alsamixer is a command line mixer app .. you'll see channels similar to the gnome alsa mixer or oss mixer .. do a google on it and you'll find lots on commands.  My thought would be that you might have a muted or low PCM volume there .. and you just tab or arrow over to that bar, and use the up and down arrows to increase volume, and the M i think to mute or unmute16:03
sabhainthat's where I would start.  Good luck.16:03
sardiskanI already did that in the gnome panel16:04
sardiskanmoved the slider bar to 10016:04
sabhainhmm .. are you running the front end in a standalone session at boot?16:07
sardiskanno16:07
sardiskanit's running on the same machine as the backend16:07
sabhainhmm .. how's the volume when you just play the DVD in mplayer?16:18
sardiskanI thought the DVD menu actually starts mplayer to play the DVD?16:42
sardiskanIf that's not the case, I'll have to try that when I get home too16:42
BLACKthroatcould someone help me get my remote working with mythtv?16:45
sardiskanwhat remote do you have?16:46
BLACKthroatmceusb16:46
BLACKthroati have installed lirc16:47
BLACKthroatand tested it with irw16:47
BLACKthroatbut i can't get it to work with mythtv16:47
sardiskanso none of the buttons do anything16:49
BLACKthroatwell in irw it recognizes all of the buttons, but when i try it in mythtv, no such luck16:51
sabhainsounds like your lircd file is ok, but you need to update the .lircrc16:51
BLACKthroati believe that I have them in the right locations16:51
BLACKthroatwhat needs to be updated on the .lircrc?16:51
sabhain.lircrc is what ties your remote codes to actions in mythtv16:54
sabhainif irw is showing codes for each button, then you *should* be able to configure .lircrc to do things based on those codes16:55
BLACKthroatwait, should it be named .lircrc and not lircrc?16:56
sabhainthere's a cool site that helps with this .. at least it will give you some example files to follow .. try http://lircconfig.commandir.com/ .. this site has TONS of examples17:00
sabhainyes it should be .lircrc17:01
BLACKthroatyeah i used that17:01
BLACKthroatwhat are the paths that .lircrc should be located17:01
BLACKthroatalong with the .conf file17:01
sabhainput .lircrc into the /home/{username}/ directory for whatever username is running the frontend17:02
jphillipBLACKthroat use MCC to set it up and check the box to create the dynamic button mapping17:02
sabhainthe lircd.conf file I think goes in /etc somewhere .. search for the existing one17:02
BLACKthroatMCC?17:02
sabhainmythbuntu-control-centre17:05
* sabhain hasn't had much luck with that approach .. but others have17:05
BLACKthroati'm not using mythbuntu17:05
BLACKthroateh, nevermind17:07
sabhainif you've installed mythtv on ubuntu .. you probably have the applet in System / Administration or Settings17:07
BLACKthroatyeah i just found it in the spm17:07
jphillipit works well for MCE remotes17:08
BLACKthroati bought the hauppauge dual tunder17:10
BLACKthroattuner17:11
BLACKthroatand it comes with mce remote17:11
BLACKthroatjust select the mce option?17:11
BLACKthroator Hauppauge TV card?17:11
ronhow do i turn off power managment17:16
puma1I can't seem to get ndiswrapper to start on boot, so I must manually modprobe it everytime the computer is restarted17:29
puma1I have read the how-to and searched the various forums, but i'm out of ideas17:30
puma1https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#head-6a606ccd9c2c4db72ac726891bd5d7cbaf8097de17:30
puma1I'm using  nm-applet only, but if I add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules, then x will not start correctly and will hang17:31
puma1and if I try and use an alias and use network admin, it just doesn't work, and i need to modprobe manually17:32
puma1does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?17:32
BLACKthroati'm still having trouble with my remote17:56
BLACKthroatanyone help?18:00
sardiskanhave you run the command line tool that shows if your computer receives the information18:01
sardiskanircw18:02
sardiskanor something like that18:02
BLACKthroatconnect: Connection refused18:02
BLACKthroatit worked before I installed MCC18:02
BLACKthroatirw18:02
sardiskanthe device should work at the OS level regardless as long as lirc is running18:04
tgm4883_laptopwhat remote?18:06
BLACKthroatmce18:06
BLACKthroatversion2 i believe18:06
tgm4883_laptopis the remote type selected in MCC?18:07
BLACKthroatyes18:09
BLACKthroatdo i need to click on 'Generate dynamic button mappings'?18:10
tgm4883_laptopI have to run.   Try restarting lirc and then irw again.  If that doesn't work, make sure you have a V2 remote at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MCE_Remote18:11
sardiskanI have that checked BLACKthroat...18:21
balachmarHi, me again. I am still investigating why mythwelcome won't shutdown the computer. Well one thing I am checking now is what is returned by mythshutdown --check18:24
balachmarand it is actually nothing! shouldn't this be either 0 or 1?18:25
balachmaralso at my screen in mythwelcome -s (the setup) I have a wakeup time format field, which is not depicted on the mythtv wiki, what value should I put there when using nvram-wakeup?18:26
balachmarby the way, mythshutdown -c (is what I typed in the terminal and returned nothing)18:27
ronany one here setup a x10 mouse remote18:42
balachmarkinda quiet in here...18:52
* laga hands free cookies.18:52
balachmardid you know that no one wants to help you with problems in #mythtv-users if you say you use mythbuntu?19:00
lagano19:00
lagai don't go there anymore that often.19:00
lagathey probably don't want to help you there because there is a mythbuntu channel :)19:00
lagaand i'm sure many people dont care what distro you use19:01
balachmarthey say: for the same reason you can't go to #debian and ask about ubuntu19:01
balachmarbut hey they are helping me now anyway...19:01
balachmar@laga, would you have any idea why I still need to use a password for sudo /usr/sbin/grub-set-default 3 when this is a line in my sudoers:19:10
balachmarwillem ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/mythshutdown, /usr/sbin/nvram-wakeup, /sbin/reboot, /sbin/poweroff, /usr/sbin/grub-set-default19:10
lagadoes it work for mythshutdown?19:12
balachmarwhat should I type?19:13
lagaor for reboot?19:13
balachmaralso needs the password still19:14
lagathen it's not correct ;)19:14
lagai dunno, it's been a while since i modified sudoers19:15
lagaand i can't look at it right now19:15
balachmarwell I think I have found it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/13139919:23
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balachmar_Hi, mythwelcome still doesn't work. Although the user has root privileges without password21:38
auradogI can't get storage directories to work. When I exit the mythbackend it tells me that it can't find the directories I created. Also, I don't get what it means when trying to create a storage directory it says to; 'enter a directory name or enter "S 'one''elle'or 'pipe'" What is that symbol and what is it trying to tell me.22:21
auradogI created the directories via 'mkdir dirname' so I know they are there.22:21
auradogBasically, I don't get it.22:21
auradogSystem: Dell 4600 with a nVidia Geforce 520022:21
auradogand an ATI TV Wonder VE.22:21
auradogAny help is greatly appreciated.22:21

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