[00:53] <Jack_Sparrow> nixternal You areound perhaps
[01:50] <bazhang> wow part message from |[Petey]|
[01:51] <vorian> nice
[01:51] <vorian> if he can't figure out ubuntu... he's gonna go for gentoo?
[01:51] <bazhang> hehe
[02:36] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: thanks
[02:36] <Hobbsee> 85%....oh dear.
[02:37] <Seeker`> 85%?
[02:37] <Hobbsee> used of bandwidth for the month.
[03:48] <Baltazaar> I just started a new Ubuntu related channel, and have some questions... Am I in the right channel?
[03:49] <Seeker`> Baltazaar: What is the channel for?
[03:53] <Baltazaar> well... I feel that the #ubuntu channel gets very overcrowded with total newcomers, and that the language specific #ubuntu-xx is somewhat too "small" so I opened up #ubuntu-advanced, to be something "in between"
[03:54] <Baltazaar> English speaking
[03:55] <Baltazaar> what do you think about that?
[03:56] <Seeker`> I dont think it is a great idea personally
[03:57] <Seeker`> others may disagree, but there have been discussions about splitting #ubuntu before, and it was generally decided that it is a bad idea
[03:58] <Seeker`> whether a problem is "advanced" or not is totally subjective
[03:59] <Seeker`> you will get people joining from #ubuntu asking the same questions in both channels, because they aren't getting support quick enough in one
[03:59] <Seeker`> it splits the helpers between the channels, so ome problems will get missed
[04:01] <Pici> Baltazaar: How long did you spend in #ubuntu before deciding this?
[04:01] <Baltazaar> there is like 1000+ in #ubuntu and questions fly by, some is unnoticed. I realize that it is hard to decide if problems is advanced or not, but I miss a more technical competent channel
[04:02] <Baltazaar> well... I've been using it since 2005
[04:02] <Pici> I mean in the IRC channel.
[04:02] <Baltazaar> on and off for some time
[04:03] <Seeker`> Baltazaar: I suspect that everyone that joins #ubuntu think that their problem is "advanced" (i.e. cannot be solved by googling in < 1 min)
[04:04] <Seeker`> because if they could solve it by googling in < 1 minute, they probably would have done so already
[04:04] <Baltazaar> no. that's the problem
[04:04] <Seeker`> huh?
[04:05] <Baltazaar> many answers to the questions is in the faq on ubuntu.com
[04:06] <Baltazaar> it's like google gets priority 2
[04:06] <Baltazaar> #ubuntu 1
[04:06] <Seeker`> but most people will think that their problem is advanced
[04:06] <Baltazaar> that's a problem
[04:06] <Baltazaar> ;-)
[04:07] <Seeker`> and you try to enforce an "advanced" question only policy in your channel, you will spend most of your time redirecting users, rather than helping people
[04:07] <Baltazaar> true to some extent
[04:07] <Seeker`> and then people will get pissy with you, because you decide that their problem isn't advanced enough, and noone will respond to them in #ubuntu, so you should help them instead
[04:09] <Baltazaar> still think it's in it's place
[04:09] <Seeker`> how do you plan to enforce the "advanced questions only"?
[04:10] <Seeker`> who decides what is advanced
[04:11] <Baltazaar> well... I was thinking about explaining something in the topic
[04:11] <Seeker`> a) that doesn't answer either of the questions
[04:12] <Pici> Baltazaar: We have policies and procedures in place that need to be completed before a new channel is created within the #ubuntu namespace on Freenode.  In addition, something like this would be subject to the approval of the Ubuntu IRC Council.
[04:12] <Seeker`> b) can you define what counts as advanced definitively in 2 lines of text?
[04:12] <nixternal> Jack_Sparrow: I am here now
[04:12] <Seeker`> c) noone reads topics
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> May I have a quick pm
[04:13] <Seeker`> Baltazaar: ^
[04:13] <Baltazaar> thinking
[04:15] <Baltazaar> well, I see your point, but I'm pretty sure that you see mine as well
[04:16] <Seeker`> you still haven't answered the questions
[04:16] <Baltazaar> I know
[04:16] <Seeker`> and, as far as i'm concerned, the problems outweigh the benifits
[04:17] <Baltazaar> guess that must be a test-of-time thing
[04:18] <Seeker`> its a general splitting-up-#ubuntu-wont-work thing
[04:18] <Pici> The argument agaWe already had enough trouble near Hardy's release ferrying people into #ubuntu+1 to deal with beta/rc questions.
[04:18] <Pici> er, I guess I didnt finish writing that, oh well.
[04:18] <Seeker`> Pici: better luck next time :P
[04:19] <Seeker`> Baltazaar: It doesn't help convince me it is a good idea when you haven't answered the questions I asked 10 minutes ago
[04:20] <Baltazaar> I'm not planning to. I believe the only way to find out is learning by doing.
[04:20] <Pici> We're only being stubborn about this because the question comes up often enough and we decide the same way often enough that its not worth it.
[04:20] <Seeker`> Baltazaar: You need to have a point to start from to find otu by learning
[04:21] <Baltazaar> That would be ##ubuntu-advanced, then....
[04:21] <Seeker`> Baltazaar: I want to know how you actually plan on stopping people from asking non-advanced questions, and who decides what is non-advanced
[04:22] <Baltazaar> That would be a bot answer, directing them to #ubuntu, because the question is too general
[04:22] <Seeker`> how does the bot know what is an advanced question?
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> nixternal May I have a brief pm
[04:22] <Baltazaar> regex?
[04:22] <Seeker`> Do you happen to have a bot capable of understanding normal speech?
[04:23] <Seeker`> if so, can I have it, as I know of a couple of companies that would be very interested in it
[04:23] <Baltazaar> It would be a piece of work
[04:23] <Pici> *sigh*
[04:23] <Seeker`> and what exactly would these regex's look for?
[04:23] <Seeker`> Would you have the irc client set the "simple bit" when it sends text to the channel?
[04:24] <Pici> Seeker`: pm?
[04:24] <nixternal> Jack_Sparrow: sure
[04:24] <Seeker`> Pici: sure
[04:24] <Baltazaar> I'm starting to catch fire here...
[04:24] <Seeker`> sorry
[04:24] <Seeker`> I apologise if I am coming across as a bit hostile
[04:25] <Baltazaar> I was asking for opinions... I got that ++
[04:26] <Seeker`> my point is that doing it automatically is virtually impossible
[04:26] <Baltazaar> I know that
[04:26] <Seeker`> doing it manually would be time consuming
[04:27] <Seeker`> and there isnt really a way of stopping people from asking "simple" questions
[04:27] <Baltazaar> just that its so insanely many people out there using Ubuntu, and ubuntu.com lists #ubuntu as the help channel, so it gets flooded...
[04:28] <Seeker`> the idea of splitting #ubuntu has been discussed several times before, and each time it was decided that it wasn't feasible
[04:28] <Baltazaar> I hear you
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> We do try to triage then into networking, sound effects etc
[04:30] <Baltazaar> being in #ubuntu, makes me want to go back to #slackware, if you know what I mean. People in that camp knows about google, compiling etc....
[04:32] <Baltazaar> And you do get flamed if you ask a gg:"your question here"
[04:33] <Seeker`> Baltazaar: Isn't slackware aimed at more expereienced people though?
[04:35] <Pici> Baltazaar: You may want to have a gander at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/ if you havent already.
[04:35] <Pici> I'm taking off for the night.
[04:35] <Baltazaar> maybe so... I've been using it, but Ubuntu is nice, hassle-free (most of the time), and I like it. Just sad that the main irc channel is so totally on the other side of the planet
[04:39] <jdong> Baltazaar: most distributions with a self-validated barrier of knowledge have communities like that...
[04:39] <jdong> Baltazaar: I've dabbed in FreeBSD, Windows product team, and Gentoo before ubuntu.. and they all feel that way
[04:39] <jdong> it's a side effect of the barrier to entry
[04:40] <jdong> good thing or bad thing, it's too late at night for me to reflect
[04:40] <Baltazaar> sure...
[04:40] <jdong> FWIW the forums does have a separate section for beginners
[04:41] <Baltazaar> I feel that people prioritize like 1. #ubuntu 2. Forum 3. Google, and actually doing something, like reading error logs.
[04:42] <Baltazaar> if they know where to find them
[04:44] <Seeker`> but thats what people that are new to linux do
[04:44] <jdong> Baltazaar: that's a fairly logical/typical workflow...
[04:45] <Seeker`> thats what most people do, really
[04:45] <jdong> Baltazaar: not everyone is so technically inclined as to automatically know how to jump to #3
[04:45] <Seeker`> "typical" linux commnities tend to be different because most of the users are geeks / programmers
[04:45] <Seeker`> who know what to do to fix problems. The average person just wants a working computer
[04:47] <Seeker`> right, 4:45am = bedtime. Night.
[04:48] <Baltazaar> don't let the bugs bite
[05:48] <bazhang> Baltazaar, is there something else to discuss? this channel has a no idle policy.
[05:49] <Baltazaar> sorry... leaving...
[06:15] <lnxidiot> hi all
[06:16] <AtomicSpark> some guy named lnxidiot is complaining to #freenode that he was harassed by the ubuntu channels when he tried to get help
[06:16] <lnxidiot> help me dear god, the embarrassment!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:16] <bazhang> lnxidiot, what is the issue
[06:16] <AtomicSpark> i see no logs of this as i've been on the channels for a few hours now. just thought i'd let you know :P
[06:16] <AtomicSpark> oh. and look he followed me in here. lol.
[06:17] <bazhang> AtomicSpark, thanks we can take care of this; if that is all then there is no idling here
[06:17] <lnxidiot> can I please have some help with cdrecord?
[06:18] <bazhang> lnxidiot, come back to #ubuntu for that
[06:18] <lnxidiot> ok
[06:18] <bazhang> no idling here please lnxidiot
[06:27] <bazhang> !idle | lnxidiot
[06:48] <Myrtti> moin
[07:18] <Myrtti> http://ihasahotdog.com/2008/05/18/cute-puppy-pictures-wid-da-sound-a-muzic/ GOOOOOOOD morning #ubuntu-ops
[07:18] <Myrtti> and an EXCELLENT week.
[07:22] <jussi01> Hello Myrtti! :D
[07:23] <Myrtti> (this week is bound to be more excellent than the last since it's really difficult to get any worse from rock bottom, though I've seen those weeks too)
[07:23] <bazhang> haha
[07:23]  * jussi01 huggles Myrtti
[07:24] <bazhang> the real question is: when will ubottu be able to huggle again :)
[07:24] <jussi01> bazhang: never
[07:24] <bazhang> :0
[07:24] <Myrtti> :-> lifes little compromises
[07:24] <jussi01> nah, maybe Ill eable it again sometime...
[07:24] <jussi01> enable even
[07:25]  * jussi01 goes to look which plugin that was agian...
[07:25] <Myrtti> jussi01: don't do it
[07:25] <jussi01> Myrtti: hehe
[08:14] <mnepton> ompaul: you here?
[08:14] <mnepton> (UDS, not IRC)
[08:42] <Myrtti> I'm starting to think this tv7 feller is reincarnation of Asus-tek
[08:42] <bazhang> heh
[08:45] <Myrtti> and I'm not even joking
[08:46] <bazhang> never saw asus enough to compare
[09:02] <bazhang> I think I understand now
[09:03] <Myrtti> @btlogin
[09:04] <Myrtti> ip's don't match though
[09:05] <bazhang> odd; the actions do seem to though
[09:05] <Myrtti> okies
[09:05] <Myrtti> so that explains it
[09:06] <bazhang> aha
[09:23] <Amaranth> jussi01: Can we get the bot in the uds channels?
[09:23] <Amaranth> jussi01: at least #ubuntu-devel-summit and #uds-desktop
[09:24] <ompaul> #ubuntu-irc
[09:24] <ompaul> woops
[09:24] <ompaul> #uds-community
[09:27] <Amaranth> who else has access to the bot?
[09:27] <Myrtti> and here we have the lag...
[09:27] <Myrtti> moi
[09:28] <Amaranth> eep lag
[09:29] <Myrtti> so do you probably
[09:29] <Myrtti> @login
[09:29] <Myrtti> bad one
[09:29] <Myrtti> I'm suffering it too
[09:29] <Myrtti> which channels was it?
[09:30] <Myrtti> ompaul, Amaranth
[09:30] <Amaranth> #ubuntu-devel-summit, #uds-desktop, #uds-community
[09:31] <Myrtti> ubottu: join #ubuntu-devel-summit
[09:31] <Amaranth> yeah, i can't do it either :)
[09:31] <ompaul> there are a basically 6 tracks http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/uds-intrepid/
[09:31] <Amaranth> @join #ubuntu-devel-summit
[09:31] <ompaul> @btlogin
[09:31] <Amaranth> @whoami
[09:31] <Myrtti> @whoami
[09:31] <Myrtti> humdidumdi
[09:33] <Amaranth> yay AC cooling my laptop
[09:42] <mnepton> @whoibe
[09:46] <Amaranth> haha
[09:46] <Amaranth> yay coffee time
[09:46] <Amaranth> except they're still talking about pulseaudio in here
[09:47] <Myrtti> LjL: poit
[09:58] <jussi01> ubottu:  join #ubuntu-devel-summit
[09:58] <jussi01> ubottu:  join #uds-desktop
[09:58] <Myrtti_> woo, full 7 minutes of lag before dropping off
[09:58] <jussi01> ubottu:  join #uds-community
[09:58] <jussi01> heya Myrtti
[11:40] <Myrtti> oh lawd
[11:41] <Tm_T> yes dear?
[11:41] <ompaul> he has a reason ....
[11:41] <Myrtti> fcol
[11:41] <Myrtti> that tv7 feller really starts to tick me off soon
[11:41] <Tm_T> hahah
[11:41] <Myrtti> he's just like asustek
[11:41]  * Tm_T ticles Myrtti 
[11:42] <Myrtti> though a bit more $adjective, perhaps
[11:52] <ompaul> !didntwork
[11:52] <ompaul> !did not work
[11:52] <bazhang> haxt
[11:52] <jussi01> !doesntwork | ompaul
[11:52] <ompaul> !didnotwork
[11:52] <ompaul> jussi01, thanks
[11:53] <jussi01> :)
[11:53] <Myrtti> !didnotwork is <alias> doesntwork
[11:53] <bazhang> telling me to stfu
[11:53] <jussi01> Myrtti: make didnotwork something first
[11:54] <Myrtti> !didnotwork is <reply> foo
[11:54] <Myrtti> !no didnotwork is <alias> doesntwork
[11:54] <jussi01> !didnotwork
[11:54] <Myrtti> bazhang: in pm?
[11:54] <jussi01> :)
[11:55] <bazhang> in channel; in PM was the full nine yards
[11:59] <haxt> Anyone alive?
[11:59] <bazhang> yes haxt how can we help you
[12:00] <haxt> Why are power-stricken people always quick to gun, when they are the ones that are offtopic?
[12:00] <haxt> When someone is helping three different people at once and he gets kicked from #ubuntu, that really makes him want to come back and help you know that
[12:01] <haxt> All of ubuntu staff should be proud of an operator who boots someone ACTIVELY helping as he was booted.
[12:01] <Myrtti> your language was unacceptable
[12:01] <Myrtti> period
[12:01] <Myrtti> we appreciate your helping the users
[12:01] <haxt> First off, a single acronym once, WHEN I DIDN'T KNOW is not unacceptable.
[12:01] <haxt> I'm not done.
[12:01] <haxt> Secondly, it was in a PM.
[12:01] <Myrtti> funny, my lastlog shows the acronym too
[12:01] <haxt> And that has nothign to do with my needed booting in a chan.
[12:02] <Myrtti> and I don't see you pm'in me
[12:02] <bazhang> it was in channel, and after asking you to stop offtopic chat
[12:02] <haxt> THERE WAS NO OFFTOPIC CHAT
[12:02] <haxt> WHAT ARE YOU TAKLING ABOUT
[12:02] <haxt> LOL
[12:02] <haxt> Dude can you read english?
[12:02] <ompaul> !shout
[12:02] <Myrtti> haxt: nownow
[12:02] <ompaul> haxt, be nice
[12:02] <haxt> Well I've said it about 10 times now.
[12:02] <haxt> And he keeps saying "offtopic chat".
[12:02] <haxt> What?!?! HOW?!?! There wasn't any.
[12:03] <haxt> It's mind-boggling how someone NOT typing in the channel can come out of nowhere and claim offtopic chat.
[12:03] <haxt> ompaul: it's an honest question.
[12:03] <haxt> I am seriously like, dumbfounded.
[12:03] <Myrtti> fine
[12:03] <haxt> I am to think the ubuntu userbase is experienced, and educated.
[12:03] <haxt> Like me.
[12:04] <Myrtti> then sit down and relax and someone will try to explain it to you
[12:04] <Myrtti> since you are, as you said, dumbfounded
[12:04] <haxt> Alright, please do.
[12:04] <Myrtti> as I said
[12:04] <Myrtti> we really appreciate you helping people in #ubuntu
[12:05] <bazhang> die-hard hackers use ubuntu; when I put on my black hat I use knoppix
[12:05] <Myrtti> it's nice to see people getting helped and giving help in return
[12:05] <haxt> Not to interrupt, but why did bazhang just paste that? It's not even the whole line and is entirely out of context.
[12:05] <Myrtti> but we as ops have to take care that the people in need of help arent' confused with chitchat that isn't directly connected to ubuntu support
[12:06] <haxt> Okay, well that never occurred.
[12:06] <bazhang> when being asked to stay ontopic you said some unacceptable language as well
[12:06] <Myrtti> theres too many users and too many ubuntu newbies and even more, too many irc newbies to allow that
[12:06] <Myrtti> bazhang: ssssh
[12:07] <haxt> Myrtti: True, However he was the one who began the offtopic rant. I was helping someone, they asked me a qusetion about ubuntu recursive hidden wildcards.
[12:07] <haxt> And what did I do but tell him I don't use Fedora, which he referenced to not having to use it
[12:07] <haxt> and I said to him the two linux distros i do use, as to what i could help him with
[12:08] <haxt> and said that's it's fine, he didn't need to use the wildcard he just used /src
[12:08] <haxt> bazhang came out of NOWHERE
[12:08] <haxt> and was like !ot | haxt
[12:08] <Myrtti> well then we have a situation of that reflects the "Laws of communication"
[12:08] <haxt> No./
[12:08] <Myrtti> the amount of misunderstanding is proportional to the amount of communication
[12:08] <haxt> I believe that you have poor judgement in your staff.
[12:08] <haxt> No.
[12:08] <haxt> Not at all.
[12:08] <haxt> Myrtti: I'm sorry I can see you are trying to protect him.
[12:09] <haxt> I don't really care at all about this situation. I just think for YOU.
[12:09] <Myrtti> no, I'm trying to mediate
[12:09] <haxt> I am saying, ubuntu has a good name
[12:09] <ompaul> haxt, the first part of this is important for this
[12:09] <haxt> I don't want to see it tarnished by poor staff.
[12:09] <Myrtti> you're both getting pissed of for a minor reason
[12:09] <ompaul> !guidlines
[12:09] <ompaul> !guidelines
[12:09] <haxt> Myrtii: I'm not pissed off.
[12:10] <haxt> I could care less about bazhang.
[12:10] <Myrtti> well agitated then
[12:10] <haxt> I am here to talk to you about your staff.
[12:10] <haxt> You are anyone that has the ears on staff.
[12:10] <haxt> I like ubuntu, and want to help it's users.
[12:10] <Myrtti> our staff is voluteers as much as you are
[12:10] <haxt> I agree with it's message.
[12:10] <haxt> Yeah well you need to close the gates.
[12:10] <haxt> Community-driven doesn't mean everyone needs ops.
[12:11] <ompaul> and not everyone has ops
[12:11] <haxt> ChanServ grants + bazhang
[12:11] <haxt> +o*
[12:11] <haxt> that's ops k
[12:11] <haxt> Alright, whatever.
[12:11] <Myrtti> haxt: that's because he is an op
[12:11] <Myrtti> not because anyone is
[12:11] <haxt> I'm done. Okay. okay.
[12:11] <haxt> You guys don't get it.
[12:11] <Myrtti> I think i do
[12:12] <haxt> What then?
[12:12] <Myrtti> What then
[12:12] <haxt> You don't see.
[12:12] <haxt> lol
[12:12] <haxt> All I came here to say.
[12:12] <Myrtti> I think you're not getting us...
[12:12] <Myrtti> but do go on
[12:12] <haxt> Getting "us"?
[12:12] <haxt> See, you already have invisible lines drawn, even though you say ops are peopel like me.
[12:12] <haxt> lol
[12:13] <haxt> Anyways.
[12:13] <haxt> Like I way saying before you interrupted me.
[12:13] <ompaul> haxt,  perhaps you would like to read the guidelines doc and associated documents you might find it interesting
[12:13] <haxt> ompaul: you have no idea that i have read them are are reading them. are you vnc'd to me? can you see my desktop? can you view my history? no.
[12:13] <haxt> Anyways, AGAIN interrupted.
[12:14] <haxt> I was trying to say.
[12:14] <haxt> I was fully functioning as a productive member of the channel #ubuntu
[12:14] <haxt> and out of nowhere
[12:14] <haxt> bazhang came out
[12:14] <Myrtti> yes, we heard that already
[12:14] <haxt> and decided to power-trip and act like an authoritarian.
[12:14] <haxt> And that makes YOU
[12:14] <haxt> not just bazhang
[12:14] <haxt> look bad
[12:14] <haxt> to not just me
[12:15] <haxt> but those other peopel that i was helping
[12:15] <haxt> that pm
[12:15] <Myrtti> haxt: he's an op, watching over the flow of the discussion
[12:15] <haxt> d me and said "WTF?"
[12:15] <haxt> no he wasn't
[12:15] <haxt> lol
[12:15] <haxt> that's the thing
[12:15] <haxt> he wasn't watching
[12:15] <haxt> if he was he would've seen the conversation
[12:15] <Myrtti> oh for crying out loud
[12:15] <Myrtti> so now you've got vnc to his desktop?
[12:15] <haxt> wow. ok. im done with you kids.
[12:15] <haxt> later
[12:15] <Tm_T> ...
[12:16] <jdong> lol
[12:16] <gnomefreak> for some reason i think i remember him from a while ago
[12:16] <Myrtti> I couldn't get even the half of what I tried to tell him through
[12:16]  * wgrant stifles a laugh.
[12:16] <gnomefreak> that nick is very fammilar to me
[12:16] <jdong> Myrtti: yeah 3-word delimited sentences don't flow well
[12:16] <jdong> for some silly reason
[12:16] <jdong> I dont know
[12:16] <jdong> exactly why.
[12:18] <haxt> It's just funny. There were about 3 people helping in the channel, including me, for about the last 3 hours. And then this shit happened. Well now I guess you have those 2 guys and bazhang all of a sudden is now helping people in his broken english. What a good substitute.
[12:18] <haxt> Goodbye freenode.!
[12:18] <jussi01> right...
[12:18] <Tm_T> oki
[12:19] <jussi01> So when did we get a promotion to "staff" ?
[12:19] <Tm_T> we are channel staff?
[12:19] <jussi01> Hrm... I thought the word was operators
[12:20] <Tm_T> I thought too
[12:20] <jussi01> arent staff the guys from freenode?
[12:20] <jussi01> (and gals)
[12:20] <Tm_T> network staff yes
[12:23] <PriceChild> @btlogin
[12:28] <Myrtti> !myrtti
[12:28] <Myrtti> sigh
[12:29] <jussi01> Myrtti: I love it!
[12:30] <Pici> *sigh*
[12:30] <Myrtti> it's a true prayer that I sometimes recite
[12:30]  * Pici just got done reading the backscroll from last night.
[12:32] <Hobbsee> mmm.  fruitcakes.
[12:32] <Hobbsee> gotta love the irc variety.
[12:32] <bazhang> haha
[12:33] <Hobbsee> (in general, not that guy in particular)
[12:39] <Myrtti> mmmm raspberry
[12:39] <Myrtti> /me goes to ransack her jam stash
[12:47] <PriceChild> Anyone heard anything from paladine lately wrt irseek?
[12:48] <PriceChild> i gave him the page i wrote a few viewpoints on but haven't heard anything since
[12:48] <Pici> I have heard nothink.
[12:58] <Hobbsee> guys, just be greatful we didn't get the maggot.  Hopefully he'll never find #ubuntu.
[12:58] <Hobbsee> ( http://rafb.net/p/G7CRIk57.html for context, among others)
[12:58] <bazhang> hehe
[12:58] <bazhang> that is a great story
[12:58] <Hobbsee> and the noobfarm quote from last night
[13:00] <Hobbsee> bazhang: yes....
[13:00] <bazhang> was just thinking about it in fact; weird
[13:02] <Myrtti> LjL: poit
[15:36] <PriceChild> Morning Jack_Sparrow
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Back later, need to go on my morning forced march... Dr's orders
[15:47] <jdavies> PriceChild: -ca under attack
[15:48] <jdavies> !staff | Russian's in -ca again - help!
[15:48] <PriceChild> one mo
[15:49] <jdavies> PriceChild: quick, +m it
[16:54] <Myrtti> 18:48 < no0tic> hi all, I left the ubuntu-it irc team and passed all contacts to jester-, he is  now the new point of reference for the italian group. Unfortunately he doesn't  speak english
[16:54] <Myrtti>  no0tic> Myrtti, yes, there's twilight (an ubuntu-it loco councillor) that is a co-admin
[16:54] <Myrtti>           and the alternate contact for the main channel
[18:00] <Seeker`> why has no0tic left?
[18:02] <bazhang> wow angry away message from linuxkid
[23:37] <Pici> idiot
[23:38] <Seeker`> Pici: What about prefix's language?
[23:38] <Tm_T> indeed
[23:42] <Pici> !prayer
[23:50] <Pici> Wait, this isn't AOL?
[23:50] <Seeker`> PriceChild: Are questions invisible on AOL?
[23:50] <PriceChild> aol, aim, w/e
[23:51] <PriceChild> aol chat rooms?
[23:51] <Pici> I remember those
[23:51]  * Seeker` hasn't been in an aol chat room
[23:59] <PriceChild> I'm talking with matthew_ in pm btw