[04:13] <marianom> hi everyone. my team started today using launchpad's mailing list but users are complaining that when they reply to the mail goes to the sender and not to the list. how can I fix this?
[04:14] <marianom> upps, it seems i should send this question to Answers. 
[06:10] <jtv> Just watching America's Got Talent.  Formula is very similar to So You Think You Can Dance, right down to the three-judge panel with the British and American accents.
[06:11] <jtv> After this, work will be so much fun.
[07:16] <janimo> danilos: is it possible to modify all translations for a certain locale on the server side by the LP team?
[07:16] <janimo> danilos: the Romanian LoCo would need a search and replace to switch a character to a new one which looks almost like the old and is the correct standard
[07:18] <janimo> danilos: all occurencews of ţ should be ț - the current use of both is due to historical reasons. If it were possible to do it all at once on the server it would save a lot of time
[09:01] <philn> hi
[10:08] <philn> gmb: ping
[10:10] <gmb> philn: Hi.
[10:10] <gmb> philn: Sorry, we're running a bit behind with your import.
[10:10] <gmb> philn: I didn't get round to doing it yesterday (I'm at UDS, which has made scheduling a bit of a nightmare).
[10:11] <gmb> philn: But we should be good to go today; the import is working fine locally.
[10:12] <philn> ok, cool
[10:44] <ccm> hi there
[10:44] <ccm> is there any way to force a rebuild of a ppa package?
[10:47] <jamesh> ccm: a failed build?
[11:06] <ccm> jamesh: no, a successfull one
[11:06] <ccm> jamesh: isn't it neccessary to rebuild as libraries might have updated?
[11:06] <wgrant> ccm: You need to upload again.
[11:06] <wgrant> We don't do binNMUs.
[11:06] <ccm> wgrant: what is a binnmu?
[11:06] <wgrant> (we == Ubuntu, so therefore Soyuz. Or the causality might be the other way around)
[11:07] <wgrant> ccm: Binary Non-Maintainer Upload. Uploading a new version of binaries without a new source.
[11:08] <ccm> wgrant: i see. just for my understanding: it would be helpful to so, right? i uploaded when hardy was alpha and the package hasn't been rebuild since that
[11:09] <wgrant> ccm: Possibly. There are pros and cons from both sides.
[11:09] <wgrant> For the foreseeable future, just upload a new revision.
[11:10] <jamesh> ccm: in general, you'd want a new version of the package (as opposed to a rebuild) if the new library breaks the package
[11:10] <ccm> wgrant: okay, i can live with that, just didn't want to misunderstand something with the procedure. 
[11:10] <wgrant> jamesh: Only in Ubuntu...
[11:10] <jamesh> ccm: if a user has installed the old version of your package, apt won't know that it needs to replace it with a rebuild that has the same version number
[11:11] <jamesh> wgrant: I don't think this is Ubuntu specific
[11:11] <wgrant> jamesh: Outside Soyuzland, binNMUs are supported. Basically, .1 is appended to the binary version, IIRC.
[11:12] <ccm> jamesh: of course! i missed that - though i might only rebuild as other things have updated apt needs to know about. okay
[11:14] <ccm> thank you jamesh and wgrant for the explanations
[11:14] <ccm> bye
[15:24] <gmb> philn: Import complete on http://demo.launchpad.net/elisa
[15:33] <philn> gmb: "Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad. "
[15:33] <gmb> Interesting.
[15:33] <gmb> philn: URL?
[15:33] <philn> the one you gave me above
[15:34] <gmb> philn: Hmm. Try https://demo.launchpad.net/elisa instead. It's working for me.
[15:35] <philn> http redirects to https apparently, which leads to the error page for me
[15:35] <gmb> Weird.
[15:35] <gmb> philn: Usually there's an OOPS ID on the page, can you see one?
[15:40] <philn> (Error ID: OOPS-871DEA495) 
[15:42] <gmb> philn: Thanks. I'll take a look, hang on.
[15:57] <gmb> philn: While I'm waiting for the error report to be synced to somewhere I can get at it, could you try bugs.demo.launchpad.net/elisa?
[16:01] <philn> Oops too :(
[16:02] <philn> i'll try with epiphany
[16:03] <gmb> philn: Okay. I don't think that'll help; OOPSes are server-side errors.
[16:03] <philn> works.. only noticeable difference is that i'm not logged in
[16:03] <gmb> philn: Okay, log in and let's see what happens.
[16:04] <philn> OOPS-871DEA518
[16:04] <gmb> Grr.
[16:05]  * philn logs out ;)
[16:05] <gmb> Hmm. Interesting, I'm seeing the issue too, now.
[16:05] <gmb> philn: Good plan ;)
[16:05] <philn> ok let's have a look at the import
[16:07] <philn> rahh OOPs again!!
[16:10] <gmb> FFS!
[16:19] <ReedzBookz> Hello, how is every one? i just finished and aced my second programming course (procedural programming in c) and was wondering if there was a place for me at launchpad? or do i need more knowledge?
[16:23] <allenap> ReedzBookz: Have a look at http://www.ubuntu.com/employment - there is a space on the Translations team.
[16:24] <ReedzBookz> yea i saw that but i only speak English....
[16:24] <ReedzBookz> I wasnt looking for employment more so just contributing to the scene
[16:26] <allenap> ReedzBookz: Oh, right. Well, a lot of the code that runs Launchpad is not released, so if you wanted to code for Launchpad you would need to be an employee.
[16:27] <ReedzBookz> oh lol
[16:28] <ReedzBookz> oh lol, i thought it would be cool to help develop some crazy open source apps
[16:29] <ReedzBookz> but i only know procedural programming which i hear is not widely used anymore
[16:29]  * Spads switched to FORTH decades ago
[17:02] <mrevell> Howdy all. If you're interested in helping out with Launchpad documentation, we're about to have a meeting in #launchpad-meeting.
[17:25] <philn> the network cable at UDS was cut or what?
[17:25] <Spads> nah, everyone just shut their laptops :)
[17:28] <philn> argh got no update from gmb :(
[18:05] <vadi2> Loggerhead is down again, if someone could fix it that'd be great
[18:35] <vadi2> Thank you
[19:37] <asabil> hi all
[19:37] <asabil> seems like lp became really very slow at scanning branches recently
[20:33] <sabdfl> asabil: they are introducing a new scanner that is more scalable, but it might have changed behaviour
[20:34] <sabdfl> jml`or mwhudson will know more, or thumper
[20:35] <asabil> ok thanks
[21:43] <matsubara> philn: our sysadmins have fixed the demo instance. it's using a wrong configuration option and now things should be working fine