| artfwo | Hi! May I ask how to fix lintian warning about "debian-changelog-file-is-a-symlink" in multi-binary CDBS package? | 02:29 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 02:50 |
| RAOF | Howdie bddebian | 02:53 |
| bddebian | Heya RAOF | 02:54 |
| cheatr | Could someone review this perl module that I packaged? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=liblocale-hebrew-perl | 03:56 |
| LaserJock | anybody about that happens to use Jabber? | 04:35 |
| artfwo | LaserJock: i do | 04:35 |
| LaserJock | artfwo: are you running Hardy? | 04:36 |
| RAOF | As do I. | 04:36 |
| artfwo | yes | 04:36 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm having the weirdest situation right now | 04:36 |
| LaserJock | I've tried 3 gnome clients and all of them seem to connect but no people show up. I can't seen any contacts | 04:36 |
| artfwo | are these people currently offline? | 04:36 |
| LaserJock | but I tried 2 KDE/Qt clients and they both work fine | 04:36 |
| LaserJock | I have about 5 online people | 04:37 |
| LaserJock | but with the gnome clients I can't even see offline people | 04:37 |
| LaserJock | it's just blank | 04:37 |
| artfwo | what gnome clients did you try? | 04:37 |
| LaserJock | gajm, pidgin, and gossip | 04:37 |
| LaserJock | *gajim | 04:38 |
| RAOF | LaserJock: Tried empathy? That works for me; you'll need the telepathy-gabble package to have a jabber handler. | 04:38 |
| * jdong is considering committing a cardinal sin over the summer... | 04:38 | |
| jdong | that is, running opensuse 11 for the summer on my macbook | 04:38 |
| RAOF | jdong: Playing starcraft unto 3 in teh morning? | 04:38 |
| LaserJock | jdong: don't do it! | 04:38 |
| jdong | RAOF: that's just ditching exam studying ;-) | 04:38 |
| LaserJock | jdong: maybe try Fedora? | 04:38 |
| jdong | LaserJock: well... I gave fedora 9 a shot yesterday actually... my initial reactions are not positive | 04:38 |
| RAOF | Fedora looks fairly nice; I've got me a VM image that occasionally gets a run. | 04:39 |
| artfwo | LaserJock: very strange indeed, but did you try "show offline buddies" option? | 04:39 |
| jdong | LaserJock: I think I will hold off before saying much more in case my judgement changes | 04:39 |
| LaserJock | artfwo: yep | 04:39 |
| LaserJock | jdong: oh really? I really like Fedora 9 | 04:39 |
| jdong | but getting an error dialog that says "The relationship trust hierarchy is invalid" on the first set of updates.... | 04:39 |
| LaserJock | for me much better than openSUSE | 04:39 |
| jdong | the re-what? | 04:39 |
| jdong | it ended with "This dialog is a known bug. Do not report this. This will be fixed in the next UI rollout" | 04:40 |
| jdong | granted, I found it amusing | 04:40 |
| RAOF | Oooooh, owch. | 04:40 |
| jdong | and proceeded to use yum from the CLI | 04:40 |
| jdong | the overall polish and appearance is quite attractive | 04:40 |
| RAOF | Yay stable upgrades? | 04:40 |
| jdong | RAOF: oh don't GET ME STARTED | 04:40 |
| jdong | RAOF: it installs a policy kit update. Guess what it does when installing said update? | 04:41 |
| jdong | RAOF: it forcibly restarts dbus+hal, which actually cascaded into my whole X session crashing. | 04:41 |
| RAOF | Undoes all your configuration? | 04:41 |
| RAOF | Even better! | 04:41 |
| jdong | whee! | 04:41 |
| LaserJock | jdong: serious? | 04:41 |
| jdong | LaserJock: no joke.... | 04:41 |
| LaserJock | I've not had any problems with updates | 04:41 |
| RAOF | At least you get to test how well it recovers from half-configured packages. | 04:41 |
| jdong | RAOF: that, it seems to do remarkably well | 04:42 |
| pwnguin | packagekit? | 04:42 |
| LaserJock | RAOF: grrr, empathy does the same thing | 04:42 |
| jdong | pwnguin: well.. yeah. yum/rpm. | 04:42 |
| LaserJock | RAOF: it connects, but there's no contacts | 04:42 |
| RAOF | LaserJock: That's really, really wierd. | 04:43 |
| LaserJock | yumex is what I use mostly | 04:43 |
| RAOF | Because it *totally* works here. | 04:43 |
| LaserJock | packagekit can only install one package at a time | 04:43 |
| pwnguin | i donno. packagekit doesn't seem to offer anything significant versus update-manager | 04:43 |
| jdong | yeah ultimately I want to diversify my distro collection | 04:43 |
| artfwo | LaserJock: perhaps there's some global gnome option (like proxy), that all gnome client try to use? | 04:43 |
| jdong | particularly after *unmentioned Debian vulnerability.....* | 04:43 |
| LaserJock | RAOF: I have -proposed enabled. I wondered if something there killed it. But it'd be weird that all gnome clients would do it | 04:43 |
| jdong | FWIW, I'm using finch (libpurple) on hardy-proposed | 04:44 |
| jdong | and it seems to be fine | 04:44 |
| RAOF | LaserJock: I've got -proposed enabled, too. | 04:44 |
| LaserJock | bah | 04:44 |
| RAOF | Proxy craziness? | 04:44 |
| LaserJock | I don't have a proxy | 04:44 |
| LaserJock | and in the gnome proxy setting it says "Direct Internet Connection" | 04:44 |
| LaserJock | it's gotta be something like that though | 04:45 |
| LaserJock | I don't think all the gnome clients use the same libraries | 04:45 |
| RAOF | That's an obvious piece of desktop-specific shared config. | 04:46 |
| LaserJock | dang it, this is a brand new install, don't tell me I've screwed it up already :-) | 04:48 |
| artfwo | pidgin and gajim have an XMPP console, you can try to trace the problem with it | 04:49 |
| pwnguin | does jabber store contacts? | 04:49 |
| artfwo | pwnguin: of course | 04:50 |
| LaserJock | artfwo: ok, got the console, but there's nothing going on | 04:51 |
| LaserJock | you know how to use the console in pidgin? | 04:51 |
| artfwo | blah, it works only when you're logged in | 04:52 |
| artfwo | but pidgin --debug should do it | 04:53 |
| LaserJock | ah, after a while pidgin says it timed out | 04:54 |
| LaserJock | ok | 04:55 |
| LaserJock | using --debug I see all my contacts getting spit out to the terminal | 04:55 |
| LaserJock | but nothing shows up in the UI | 04:55 |
| artfwo | not that's even weirder | 04:56 |
| artfwo | *now | 04:56 |
| LaserJock | but now I get : <error code='503' type='cancel'><service-unavailable xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas'/></error> | 04:57 |
| LaserJock | and then a bit later it disconnects | 04:57 |
| artfwo | I've got the same problem with jabber.org server in pidgin in the past | 04:58 |
| artfwo | sometimes it just kicked me off | 04:58 |
| artfwo | hence no contacts visible | 04:58 |
| LaserJock | ok | 04:59 |
| LaserJock | I know jabber.org just switched servers and they had some downtime | 04:59 |
| LaserJock | but I'm not sure how that would explain why the kopete and psi connected no problem | 04:59 |
| artfwo | are they connected now? | 04:59 |
| LaserJock | I only do one at a time | 05:00 |
| LaserJock | but yes, I just ran psi and it took just a second for all my contacts to come up | 05:00 |
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| artfwo | i give up then :) | 05:01 |
| LaserJock | artfwo: I'm able to talk with Hobbsee via psi right now | 05:03 |
| LaserJock | it actually works | 05:03 |
| LaserJock | ok, well screw it. I'll just use kopete and try again tomorrow | 05:05 |
| artfwo | i've just logged to my old jabber.org account with pidgin, everything seems to be okay | 05:07 |
| LaserJock | I'll try a reboot and see if that possibly does anything, but other than that I'm stuck | 05:08 |
| LaserJock | perhaps I should sign up for a different account and try that too | 05:08 |
| LaserJock | ok, last ditch try I booted into Fedora and at least the buddy list shows up | 05:30 |
| LaserJock | but it says nobody is online which is a bit weird | 05:30 |
| LaserJock | oh wait, it just disconnected like on Ubuntu | 05:31 |
| RoAkSoAx | lol xD | 05:31 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm going to say it's some weird jabber.org problem for now | 05:31 |
| emgent | heya | 06:36 |
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| siretart | superm1: TheMuso: could you please tell me your plans about vlc? | 09:33 |
| siretart | I noticed that the package has seriously diverged from debian (7.5M diff) | 09:34 |
| siretart | and it needs to be rebuilt against the new ffmpeg | 09:34 |
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| wgrant | siretart: VLC in Ubuntu has a couple of embedded source packages (real Ubuntu source packages, not bits of upstream source) that shouldn't be embedded. | 09:42 |
| siretart | wgrant: I didn't look at the package for quite some time, but that's my impression, yes | 09:43 |
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