| EvanR | it doesnt seem that the commonly available dhcpcd dhcp client has an option for no daemonize | 07:26 |
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| EvanR | dhclient does, according to some online man pages, but i cant seem to get the source | 07:26 |
| catsup | you can't find the source for dhclient? | 07:28 |
| EvanR | no | 07:29 |
| EvanR | is it on the first link on google to 'ISC DHCP', that doesnt work | 07:29 |
| EvanR | debian seems to keep the other dhcp client packages | 07:30 |
| catsup | http://packages.debian.org/source/etch/dhcp | 07:31 |
| catsup | that builds the package dhcp-client that contains the dhclient that accepts -d not to daemonize | 07:32 |
| catsup | (you don't have to build the package, the original tgz is there) | 07:33 |
| catsup | iirc pump doesn't need to daemonize | 07:34 |
| catsup | also | 07:34 |
| EvanR | hmm. | 07:35 |
| EvanR | by the way, when you see a .orig.tar.gz file at the debian site, is that the original source, or the source which is possibly changed before being built and packaged | 07:38 |
| catsup | that's the original source | 07:39 |
| catsup | from upstream | 07:39 |
| catsup | all debian changes are in the .diff | 07:40 |
| EvanR | ok. well it is hell to build :) | 07:40 |
| catsup | is it? | 07:40 |
| EvanR | and no way to direct the installation prefix | 07:40 |
| EvanR | as far as the reame is concerned, at least | 07:40 |
| EvanR | readme | 07:40 |
| EvanR | i think im going to check out pump | 07:40 |
| EvanR | bah id hate to use non standard tools :(, stupid dhcpcd | 07:41 |
| catsup | pump is nonstandard?? | 07:41 |
| catsup | ISC seems to consistently produce crap | 07:42 |
| EvanR | is dhclient the standard on debian/ubuntu/mepis? because dhcpcd is on all of them, though on the bsd's it is a different dhcpcd i think | 07:42 |
| catsup | i really don't understand how they continue to exist | 07:42 |
| EvanR | dhcpcd on the other linux distros* | 07:42 |
| catsup | well i think that all of debian's dhcp clients are named dhclient | 07:43 |
| catsup | but the ISC one is the one on the netinst install cd | 07:43 |
| catsup | at least for the last couple versions | 07:43 |
| EvanR | actually, i think the dhcpcd in *bsd is the ISC one to.... | 07:43 |
| EvanR | or based on it | 07:44 |
| catsup | well, ISC tools are very popular | 07:44 |
| EvanR | hmm. interesting | 07:44 |
| catsup | pump was made by redhat. i used to use pump. it works fine. it's not like a dhcp client is a very complex thing. | 07:44 |
| catsup | ISC has managed to fuck theirs up, though | 07:44 |
| catsup | with their configure script | 07:45 |
| EvanR | and whatever the normal one is, thats fucked up too, no --no-daemonize ? | 07:45 |
| catsup | normal one? eh? | 07:45 |
| EvanR | the one i have, the one in the slackware distro, the one in the lfs book... | 07:45 |
| catsup | by the way | 07:46 |
| EvanR | dunno what mandrake had | 07:46 |
| catsup | i just downloaded the ISC dhcp source | 07:46 |
| catsup | edit Makefile.conf to configure it | 07:46 |
| EvanR | have you tried to build it yet | 07:47 |
| catsup | no | 07:47 |
| EvanR | see if it crashes | 07:47 |
| catsup | crashes?? you mean the binary? | 07:48 |
| EvanR | no, the build process | 07:49 |
| catsup | ok i built it | 07:49 |
| catsup | what crashed? gcc? how? | 07:49 |
| catsup | segv? | 07:49 |
| EvanR | no, it didnt crash gcc, it just failed to compile | 07:50 |
| EvanR | i have been fixing typos in code all week for some reason | 07:50 |
| EvanR | if you built it, it might be a lack of dependencies | 07:51 |
| catsup | it compiled fine for me | 07:51 |
| catsup | what was your error? | 07:51 |
| EvanR | a long line of errors, and i was so fed up with ISC i deleted the source dir and the package | 07:51 |
| catsup | heh | 07:51 |
| catsup | good for you | 07:51 |
| catsup | read the pages about ISC BIND on djb's web site some time | 07:52 |
| catsup | http://cr.yp.to | 07:54 |
| EvanR | thats they one everyone uses right, bind9 | 07:55 |
| EvanR | with the reputation | 07:55 |
| catsup | no | 07:56 |
| catsup | not everyone uses it... | 07:56 |
| catsup | but yeah it's very popular | 07:56 |
| catsup | not apparently because of people making choices though, much less intelligent people making informed choices... | 07:58 |
| EvanR | grrr. the openbsd dhcpcd server only comes as a binary, or as part of a 100M source distro | 08:01 |
| EvanR | dhcp client* | 08:01 |
| * EvanR smash furniture | 08:01 | |
| catsup | um | 08:01 |
| catsup | try the other clients from debian | 08:01 |
| EvanR | pump | 08:02 |
| catsup | yeah pump is probably what you want. pump was written by redhat. i'm sure it doesn't suck. i used to use it, although that was probably 5 years ago. | 08:02 |
| EvanR | seems to require 'newt.h' | 08:04 |
| catsup | what distro are you using? | 08:05 |
| EvanR | uhm it produced a binary even with all those errors | 08:05 |
| EvanR | seems to be working | 08:05 |
| EvanR | its a custom distro | 08:06 |
| catsup | i thought newt was an ncurses gui library | 08:06 |
| catsup | pkgdesc="Not Erik's Windowing Toolkit - text mode windowing with slang" | 08:06 |
| EvanR | i have ncurses, no newt.h | 08:06 |
| EvanR | lol nice | 08:07 |
| EvanR | that must be for an optional pump 'gui' | 08:07 |
| EvanR | called 'netconfig' | 08:08 |
| catsup | oh, i found a new section of djb's web site. this guy is hilarious. http://cr.yp.to/uic.html | 08:11 |
| EvanR_ | bah | 08:21 |
| EvanR_ | can pump not no-daemonize | 08:22 |
| catsup | if you're building the source it shouldn't be hard to make the change | 08:24 |
| catsup | just find the call to daemon | 08:24 |
| EvanR_ | thats what i was thinking | 08:25 |
| EvanR_ | except doing it for dhdpcd :) | 08:25 |
| EvanR_ | with suitable spelling fixes | 08:25 |
| EvanR_ | dammit, the isc dhcp site works in firefox, it was my ipv6 configuration :( | 08:28 |
| * EvanR_ smashes furniture | 08:29 | |
| catsup | ha | 08:35 |
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