/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/05/21/#kubuntu.txt

_CrashMaster_What is the package name for "SMB and NFS servers"00:12
drusamba?00:12
_CrashMaster_*DUH*00:14
vontei downloaded the tar.gz file for synCE but how am i supposed to install it00:16
vontei downloaded the tar.gz file for synCE but how am i supposed to install it00:17
vontei downloaded the tar.gz file for synCE but how am i supposed to install it00:19
NickPresta!repeat | vonte00:20
ubottuvonte: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience00:20
coteyri am having truble getting my mic working in kubuntu00:26
coteyri use alsamixer but I can not set the capture flag (no channels have the red CAPTURE under it00:26
ubuntu_does kubuntu support logical partitions?00:27
nosrednaekimubuntu_: yes00:27
ubuntu_what about extended?00:27
p_quarlesubuntu_, the Linux kernel supports logical partitions00:27
p_quarlesyou can't have logical partitions without an extended partition00:27
nosrednaekimubuntu_: yes that too00:28
nosrednaekimp_quarles: eh? I thought the first 4 were logical.00:28
p_quarlesnosrednaekim, the what?00:28
ubuntu_why is it in the prepare partition editor does not show up as extended or logical?00:29
p_quarlesa logical partition reside inside of the "extended" physical partition of the drive00:29
ubuntu_I know00:29
harolddongthe latest amarok-nightly build won't install in kubuntu.  the amarok nightly package seems to conflict with the amarok-nightly tools package.  Is anyone else having this problem?00:29
p_quarleswhat doesn't show up that way, ubuntu_?00:29
NickPrestaYou can have a maximum of 4 primary partitions (for the MBR). You can create an extended partition from a primary partition, which can contain multiple logical partitions.00:30
ubuntu_in the prepare partition does not show up as extended00:30
ubuntu_when I did that in parted magic00:30
p_quarlesubuntu_, again *what* doesn't show up as extended?00:31
TherpandrusHi, does anybody know how to go back to the default kdm theme in kubuntu hardy, I've been playing around with the settings and now i can't go back to default behaviour ??00:31
ubuntu_the partitions that I made that are extended on my hard drive00:31
nosrednaekimTherpandrus: reinstall kubuntu-default-settings00:31
ubuntu_it shows up just not as extended00:31
Therpandrusnosrednaekim: thanks, i'll try that00:32
ubuntu_why is that?00:33
p_quarlesubuntu_, because the partition editor isn't displaying it00:33
p_quarlesthat's an effect of whatever editor you're using, and nothing to do with Kubuntu, the hard drive itself, or Linux00:33
ubuntu_so if I just tell it to mount it on what I want it too and say do not format I should be good right00:34
p_quarlesubuntu_, yes00:34
ubuntu_just making sure00:34
ubuntu_thats what I did in debian and it worked00:34
p_quarlesubuntu_, at the filesystem level there's almost never any difference between distros00:35
ubuntu_but it should up as logical in debian 400:35
Nyad if someone here has the ISO of the alternate install CD of kubuntu with them could they tell me what the names of the files are called in the isolinux dir in the ISO00:36
p_quarlesubuntu_, keep in mind that these are more or less just arbitrary names given to represent hard drive usage in human readable form -- the terms are less important than the meanings behind them00:36
ubuntu_I know I have to used an extended partition because I am using more than four partitions00:37
linuxloverhello room00:37
ubuntu_an extended is not limited to that00:37
druTherpandrus: there is a reset option i found00:38
ubuntu_it is limited to 24 partitions00:38
ubuntu_but I am not going to use that many00:38
ubuntu_thats too many partitions00:38
druTherpandrus:  http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/00:39
linuxloverI want to set up a task using KCron. I am using Kubuntu 7.10. In the program box i have written /usr/bin/oocalc which in turn should open my oocalc program, and it is scheduled at 5:10 am....... but it is not taking place even at 5:10 am. What is the wrong i am doing? Please help00:40
DreadKnightanyone using a laptop and dual monitor configuration?00:40
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ubuntu_which ones are you using00:42
drureally bad00:42
DreadKnightlinuxlover: stop spamming noob >_<00:43
dru*simming00:43
dru*spimming00:43
ubuntu_n00b is no a nice word00:43
ubuntu_not00:43
DreadKnightindeed00:43
deitarionWhat's the recommended procedure for repairing a system that kernel panics in both regular and recovery mode? (I was thinking boot off the LiveCD, chroot, and then force a reinstall of the kernel and init)00:43
linuxloverubuntu: don't understand why this took place, anyway i am sorry for that00:43
druit has a gamers connotation00:43
DreadKnightwe ain't playing here :D00:44
drudid you give us what out put there00:44
drulinuxlover00:44
druwhat did you paste ... from where00:44
ubuntu_most be microsoft fonts00:44
ubuntu_or adobe or apple fonts00:45
druyeah but what was he saying00:45
DreadKnightsome big greedy corporations make too much fuss about fonts..00:45
linuxloverDreadKnight: I am sorry for my weakness using IRC chat. Don't get angry man, I am not here to play at least00:45
drudude :linuxlover. i had the same problem while using a cron job on my home server00:46
DreadKnightlinuxlover: no worries man :D00:46
ubuntu_it's how corporation roll to dominate00:46
drui would assume : something "like " a pipe is missing for your cron job00:46
linuxlover:D , thank you00:46
DreadKnightworld domination = end of the world; imho00:46
xt828_i just bought a new 8800gt, upgrading from a 7800gtx, do i nned to reinstall drivers or what when i put it in?00:47
ubuntu_but apple is cool for getting their feet wet a little in the open source00:47
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druas even if there it the command ... implaced and ...cron knows where it is ... there still needs to be some setting up00:47
linuxloverdru: can you help me what wrong i am doing00:47
DreadKnightubuntu_: how come?00:47
drulinuxlover: what would you like your cron job to do00:47
DreadKnightubuntu_: apple || open source00:48
drudude00:48
ubuntu_mac os x uses darwin which is open source00:48
DreadKnightlol00:48
DreadKnightthey release the source code?00:48
linuxloverdru: i want to open oocalc program00:48
druits propritary software using an open source kernel and the power of the open source community to develope a higher form00:49
ubuntu_the put darwin in at around 2000 when linuxx users complianted about not having a comand line00:49
DreadKnightbut i cant get mac os x from trunk/ compile / install etc00:49
druokay let me see if theres an altera00:49
dru*alternative00:49
druor something00:49
JucatoDreadKnight: yep: http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/00:49
ubuntu_they did that to encourage linux users to switch to apple00:49
Jucatoanyway, OS X talk --> #kubuntu-offtopic00:49
DreadKnightJucato: what about the actuall DE?00:50
JucatoDreadKnight: darwin is only the kernel00:50
drusimilar to slackware00:50
DreadKnightkernel is useless to me...00:50
Jucatolike I said, #kubuntu-offtopic00:50
ubuntu_lets join00:50
DreadKnighti mean i don't sit around staring at the kernel xD00:51
DreadKnightheh00:51
DreadKnight!dual monitor00:51
ubottuFactoid dual monitor not found00:51
DreadKnight!dual00:51
ubottuFactoid dual not found00:51
DreadKnight!multi00:51
ubottuFactoid multi not found00:51
drulinuxlover: have you seen this? :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto00:52
Jucato!dualmonitor | DreadKnight00:52
ubottuDreadKnight: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama00:52
DreadKnightJucato: lol, thanks xD00:52
linuxloverdru: ok.... taking a look into that00:52
dru !inteligence00:53
ubottuFactoid inteligence not found00:53
DreadKnightxD00:53
DreadKnight!not00:53
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xt828_two "l"s in intelligence00:53
dru !intelligence00:53
ubottuFactoid intelligence not found00:53
marioshello everyone00:53
xt828_better00:53
DreadKnight:D00:53
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Jucato!botabuse | dru00:54
ubottudru: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubottu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.00:54
DreadKnightdualmonitor support seems to suck in linux00:55
MachinTrucChosehi00:56
druthanks jucato: my point was that ubottu dosnt know all that much and that "dual monitor dude" would proabaly find more on google00:56
xt828_i just bought a new 8800gt, upgrading from a 7800gtx, do i need to reinstall drivers or what when i put it in?00:56
MachinTrucChoseis there a way I can load a cd image as a virtual drive, like with Daemon Tools and Alcohol in Windows?00:56
DreadKnighti tried google earlier, a lot of chaos00:56
MachinTrucChosedidn't see anything in the supported program list00:56
DreadKnightMachinTrucChose: gmountiso; gisomount00:56
MachinTrucChosethank you00:56
DreadKnightMachinTrucChose: acetoneiso00:57
Jucatodru: it does have a factoid, but DreadKnight was using the wrong triggers00:57
DreadKnightindeed00:57
MachinTrucChoseDreadKnight: which supports the most formats (iso, bin, ccd, etc)00:57
Jucato!iso | MachinTrucChose00:57
ubottuMachinTrucChose: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.00:57
drudeardknight : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15574600:57
DreadKnightMachinTrucChose: acetoneiso is the best (most i think are gtk apps); but acetoneiso is not in official repo00:57
MachinTrucChoseok, thanks00:58
JucatoMachinTrucChose: that works for .iso. for other types you can find some utilties in www.kde-apps.org00:58
druDreadKnight:http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Using_multiple_monitors_with_XFree8600:58
Hejgreetings00:58
DreadKnightdru: thanks ^^00:59
druDreadKnight : do you have an erorr where it halts at or is it just not set up ?01:00
Hejis grub supposed to be installed with the latest kubuntu release?01:01
nosrednaekimHej: yes01:01
Fujisan http://youtomb.mit.edu/ . YouTomb is a site that scans YouTube for that metadata and shows you a list of recently removed videos.01:01
DreadKnightdru: i want to make dual config for a laptop, first of all i wonder if i need some special cable or something... for my crt to connect to the laptop..  xD01:01
DreadKnightseems gnome has better support for dual monitors (im on kde4 atm)01:02
druthats true01:02
drukde4 is very new01:02
Hejnosrednaekim: is there supposed to be some sort of dialogs during the install (graphical or text based)?  or does the install program just attempt to do it with default values?01:02
JucatoDreadKnight: not sure if KDE 4 has support for dual monitors already01:02
DreadKnightmanual xorg.conf editing ftw >_<01:02
DreadKnightJucato: don't see anything related in 4.0.401:03
nosrednaekimHej: does it by default IIRC... I didn't install hardy, but if its like gutsy(probably is) there is a "adavnced" button on the last page of the installer01:03
Hejok01:04
nosrednaekimHej: there, you can configure what disc to put grub on01:04
Hejok01:04
HejI would have expected as much, but did not see any options when I installed01:04
druDreadKnight: i dont think you need an extra cable for such things...if you want the one desktop to be on you lappy and the other one via the output then you just haveto set the other desktop to view to the external monitor01:04
Hejis there any UI based setup on the live DVD I can use, rather than installing yet again?  Or would manually running grub be my only option?01:05
DreadKnightdru: aham01:05
druhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-687032.html01:06
nosrednaekim!grub01:06
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:06
druDreadKnight:http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-687032.html01:06
Hejok01:06
Hejthanks for the links, I'll have a look01:06
purpleposeidonHey, I don't have an xorg.conf file, how do I generate it?01:06
Randunihi all01:06
DreadKnightdru: seems interesting :D cheers01:07
purpleposeidonand 'sudo xorg -configure :1' didn't help :/01:07
druDreadKNight : have you tryed with compiz and such extra "desktop" applications?01:08
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DreadKnightdru: not really; will begin experimenting 1st thing in the morning01:09
Randunihi all01:09
* Randuni is having a problem01:09
RanduniI can't login via kdm01:09
DreadKnightseems kde3 would be more suitable atm... hmm01:09
RanduniI enter my credentials..then press enter, the screen goes black..then back to kdm01:09
druthat is really true01:09
Randunianyone seen this before?01:09
DreadKnightRanduni: this used to happen way back in the kde4 alpha... heh01:09
RanduniI don't see any errors in the log files either, which is why this is hard to track down01:10
Randuniheh01:10
DreadKnightRanduni: your using kde3 right?01:10
Randuniyes01:10
Randunikde 3.5.901:10
DreadKnightno kde4 installed at all?01:10
Randuninope01:10
Randuniand I dont't see a whole lot in kdm.log01:11
Randunior Xorg.0.log01:11
druare you sure it posts to the kdm log?01:11
druthere is no other alternative log for it ?01:12
Randunino01:12
Randunibut I would think it would post there, would it not?01:12
druhave you managed to do a cli log in ?01:12
Randuniyes01:12
RanduniI can login via the cli no problem01:12
Randuniwait..maybe I know01:12
RanduniI did recently shrink that partition down  to the smallest it could go01:13
DreadKnightthanks for the help dru :-)01:13
* DreadKnight back to movie / sleep01:13
dru did it work ?01:13
Randuniwould that cause a prob?..maybe it's out of disk space or something?01:13
Randuniyes it did01:13
DreadKnight(time will tell)01:13
druheh01:13
RanduniI now have Fedora Core 9 and Kubuntu 8.04 and Windows Xp installed01:13
DreadKnightRanduni: yes!01:14
Randuninow, I believe that Fedora Core 9 and Kubuntu are sharing the swap partition01:14
DreadKnightRanduni: kde gets damn problematic if you're running out of space..01:14
Randuniright...hmm...01:14
druoh01:14
druthats umm i dont know01:14
RanduniI may have to enlarge the partition again01:14
DreadKnightRanduni: its not just about the swap, you need space for settings and such..01:14
Randuniright01:14
RanduniI probablly made the partition too small01:14
druyou can deal it to about 3 gb with some swap01:15
Randuniit's just odd, cause I checked through all the log files and don't see any errors01:15
dru*default install01:15
DreadKnighti once downloaded too much stuff.. and ran out of space.. after a restart i couldn't even get kubuntu to boot...01:15
Randuniokay..I should've thought of that..cause this problem cropped up only after I shrunk the partition01:15
druyeah do you have a live disk ? can you check your partitons with the df command?01:16
RanduniI'm not in Kubuntu right now01:16
RanduniI'm using windoZe hexp01:16
drucan you mount it read only?01:16
druoh01:16
Randunihaha01:16
druhow bout a live cd01:16
Randunicould try that01:16
DreadKnightlive cd ftw!01:16
druyeah01:16
Randuniyou're saying try to load kubuntu 8.04 live cd?01:16
DreadKnightsome new laptops will have a linux distro in their main boards, booting up instantly xD01:17
druyoull need gparted, or just type df in the terminal to determin disk space usage01:17
Randuniyup01:17
linuxloverCrashMaster, due to unavailability of the router you have given to me, i am taking this router, http://www.dlink.com.au/Products.aspx?Sec=1&Sub1=2&Sub2=5&PID=33701:17
Randuniright..I will do that01:17
RanduniI'll have to reboot and go to kubuntu01:17
druyeah01:17
DreadKnightRanduni: gl01:17
Randunithx dread01:17
drulive cd would be better01:17
Randuniand everyone else for your help01:17
Randunibbl01:17
azzcoI'm trying to record my desktop with krecordmydesktop.. but I can't get any sound, any ideas?01:19
DreadKnightazzco: sound option checked on? xD01:20
azzcoYupp...01:20
azzcoI'm using pulseaudio if that might be of any interest..01:20
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DreadKnightazzco: so where do you expect the sound to come from? pc or mic?01:20
druhey, ld i get kopete to actually send a invite message when i "invite" with my web cam, or when i push a file, how come it never is notified on the recieveing end01:21
azzcoDreadKnight: pc, forgot about that part :p01:21
azzcoDreadKnight: I need to redirect my output to input?01:21
DreadKnightazzco: erm.. i recall it used the mic... so try redirecting or something xD01:21
DreadKnightyou could try it out if you have a mic at your dispossal01:22
azzcoDreadKnight: You don't know how to configure pulseaudio do you? I'll try in ubuntu01:22
nflavacan anyone help me get my clock display back? it seems to have disappeered01:22
drutry fiddlying with kmix settings or your configure options in recordmydesktop01:22
nflavabut i still can see the date01:22
DreadKnightdru: kopete sucks big time and sending files and webcam support01:22
DreadKnightazzco: no idea, you could use the mic to record the speakers xD01:22
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DreadKnightdru: what protocol are you using anyway? jahoo?01:23
druso what then ... kopete cummon its all "K"01:23
druyeah01:23
nflavaand I somehow made my minimize, maximise and exit buttons on my titlebars01:23
Randuniokay..LOL.01:23
azzcoWhat's wrong with kopete? :O01:23
RanduniI did a "df" and this is what I got:01:23
Randuni1-k blocks free: 001:23
Randunilol01:23
druso your full up01:23
DreadKnightdru: with kopete from kde3 you can only send files to jahoo... not receive.. and webcam support is rather random; on kopete-kde4 you can receive files from jahoo01:24
Randuniyup..I'll have to enlarge the partition some01:24
DreadKnightRanduni: wt?! xD01:24
Randuni:)01:24
DreadKnightheh01:24
Randuni/dev/sdb1 1-k blocks free: 001:24
Randunialright.........01:24
druDreadKnight: how bout like pidgin or some other application t01:24
DreadKnightin the times of cheap hdd... you see people getting greedy xD01:24
RanduniI heard 'bout pidgin01:24
Randunithe dogmas and all01:24
Randunithere is now funpidgin though01:25
druyeah ill find something else01:25
Randuniis it just a good?01:25
Randunias good that is01:25
drupidgin is the gnome variancy of kopete01:25
DreadKnightdru: latest pidgin i think supports receiving files over jahoo from most versions, pidgin is very nice looking; no webcam whatsoever at all..01:25
Randuniit's odd, I wonder why the developers are so stubborn?01:25
RanduniKopete is cool01:26
RanduniI wish that there was a Kopete for windoZe01:26
RanduniI try to use as much open source software on windoZe that I can01:26
druthere is other things like pidgin o01:26
DreadKnightRanduni: kopete-kde4 soon to be ported :P01:26
drufor windows , or trillian01:26
Randuninice Dreak..how 'bout Amarok?01:26
RanduniI'd love that for windoZe01:26
DreadKnightpidgin works on windoze :P01:26
DreadKnightRanduni: that too soon; all kde4 apps that you can think of pretty much01:27
Randunialright..that's what I like to hear:)01:27
AzmodanI have question regarding full disk encryption. What happens if I install that way when I upgrade and get the fix for the crypto vulnerability?01:27
DreadKnightgtk is rather cross platform for quite a while...01:27
DreadKnightqt is proprietary? >_<01:27
Randuniqt?..It's open source01:28
DreadKnighthmm01:28
RanduniI believe it used to be proprietary01:28
AzmodanDreadKnight: It is dual-licensed.01:28
DreadKnightdual licensed for sure01:28
DreadKnightthey require $ for proprietary apps (or commercial ones)01:29
DreadKnightsomething like that01:29
Randuniyeh01:29
RanduniI prefer KDE over GNOME01:29
RanduniI stared with KDE....Mandrake 6.001:29
AzmodanThey put an interesting twist to prevent you from freeloading, making your app with the open source version and buying the commercial one just before releasing.01:29
DreadKnightme too; kde is too much on the open edge atm >_<01:29
Fujisanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwnlRATD3Jk LOL01:29
DreadKnightstarted out with ubuntu (gnome)01:29
dru Azmodan: im not sure i quite understand what you mean , would you just decrypt it with the key , import export?01:30
DreadKnightAzmodan: lol01:30
AzmodanThe QT commercial license says that if you ever worked on an app with the open source version, they refuse to sell you the commercial one.01:30
AzmodanThat way you have to pay for the whole development time if you want your app to be commercial.01:30
DreadKnighterm xD01:30
Randuninice Fujiscan01:30
RanduniChocolate Rain!01:31
Fujisan:P01:31
JucatoFujisan: can you please stop posting unrelated links01:31
drulol01:31
Randunime too; kde is too much on the open edge atm >01:31
Fujisanhaha01:31
Randunidreadknight01:31
Randuniwhat do you mean by that?01:31
Fujisanbut its so funneh D:01:31
Randuniyup01:31
Azmodandru: I mean, will I be asked to create a new key automatically or I have to change it somehow myself?01:31
DreadKnightFujisan: lol xD01:31
FujisanD:01:32
RanduniDread, what do you mean by kde is too much on the edge/01:32
druyou probably would need to "own" your other partition and import your encryption settings01:32
DreadKnightRanduni: making the transition to the new version of qt; gnome will have its moments in the future as well, when gtk3 will be ready and thei'll start porting gnome apps for a new release xD01:32
* Fujisan is the laughing baby ~:@01:32
Randunikewl01:33
DreadKnightRanduni: kde4 incomplete and rather unstable xD01:33
RanduniI've heard to yes Dreak01:33
DreadKnightneeds time and love01:33
RanduniDread01:33
Randunilooks pretty cool though01:33
Fujisanlol amagawd southpark nailed the youtube thing d;01:33
DreadKnightgoing back to watch the south park video lol01:34
Randunihah01:34
RanduniI'm going to play some Flatout 201:34
Randunisee you all01:34
DreadKnightlol, tron guy xD01:34
FujisanxD01:35
dru"your lucky she even performed for you "01:35
DreadKnightjonobacon got some pics with hit at a conference xD01:35
DreadKnighthim*01:35
Jucato!offtopic01:35
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:35
Fujisanamagawd Jucato is in the southpark spoof also01:36
FujisanD:01:36
* Fujisan lurks ~:@01:37
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nflavacan anyone help me get my title bars back in my windows, i can move any of my windows cause the title bar is not there???01:38
NickPrestanflava, running compiz?01:40
DreadKnightFujisan: im not a fan of south park, but that **** ******* rocked dude! xD01:43
Fujisanamagawd the baby got 49 million views D:01:43
DreadKnightok, no more off-topic.... for now xD01:43
Fujisanyeah lol01:43
Jucatonflava: btw, you can still move windows (usually) by pressing Alt+Left mouse button on the window01:43
DreadKnightomg xD01:43
Fujisanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P6UU6m3cqk sorry last one the baby is too funny01:45
azzcoSoo... is there any good kde sound recording tool (except for krec)?01:46
druazzco : have you worked with audacity?01:48
druits pretty simple and i like it ... it works well01:49
azzcoYeah I was trying to use it but pulseaudio doesn't play very nicely with it and it crashes =/01:49
azzcothe ubuntu wiki will allways have it's flaws but it's quite often a good guide :) (Sorted out my problem)01:54
Jucatoyou have the power to fix those flaws :)01:57
batlloserajoin #sokker01:58
FirefisheI'm having a recurring problem with certain sound files locking up the system for a bit when using, say, xmms and amarok music players, reading .mp3 files from /media/hda1 (WinXP).  Some output here:  http://pastebin.com/m481f446f01:58
FirefisheI don' t know if I have ntfs file system errors, the sound files are just bad, or what.01:59
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Makuseruhi, im having a problem with playback in Ardour, when i record it shows the "waveform" (i think thats what it is) and everything, so i know its actually recoding it, but it looks weird, http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9007/snapshot37cu7.png like that, and when i try to play it back i get no sound, even if i export it and try to play in something else. whats wrong here, and why does the "waveform" look like that? the grey and red02:09
nflavaagent bob you here?02:10
setuid_w00tIf I want to install kubuntu and windows XP (dual-boot), which should I install first?02:11
Makuseruwindows02:12
setuid_w00tThat's what I thought.  It has been a while since I have tried this.02:12
ElecNinjaWould you use the full HDD or a partition for the first install? Would it matter?02:12
setuid_w00tI want to install both to the same HDD02:13
ElecNinjaBecause for Kubuntu, I know that the swap file changes sizes depending on the size of the install, but what about Windows?02:13
setuid_w00tI thought kubuntu used a swap partition while windows uses a swap file02:15
ElecNinjaWindows does use a swap file, but they provide the same function, I believe. I'm just wondering if that swap file ever changes.02:16
Jucatoby default most distros use a swap *partition*, which doesn't change size dynamically. setting up a swap file is more of an "advanced" task02:17
ElecNinjaActually, for my install, I saw that the swap partition actually changed sizes depending on the size of the free partition I was using.02:18
Jucatoah you mean the "guided partitioning" part of the installer?02:20
ElecNinjaYeah, but I'm just asking if windows does the same.02:20
Jucatothat actually varies from installer to installer. Windows doesn't even make you set a swap at all02:21
nflavathis might be an odd question, but can I turn off Dolphin?02:28
ElecNinjaI think you might be able to uninstall it.02:28
ElecNinjaNot sure.02:29
nflavaIts a visual desktop enhanchment right?02:29
ElecNinjaNo, it's just an alternate file manager02:30
ElecNinjaKonqueror is the main file manager, similar to IE.02:30
Jucatoer depends on which KDE version02:31
p_quarlesElecNinja, you mean you want to make Konqueror the default file manager again?02:31
JucatoD3lphin (KDE 3) is an alternate file manager. Dolphin (KDE 4) is *the* file manager02:31
Jucato(Konqueror being the alternate)02:31
ElecNinjaDidn't know about changes in KDE 4. And this is to answer nflava.02:32
nflavamaybe dolphin is not my problem02:32
Jucatonflava: what KDE version?02:32
nflavanewest02:32
nflavajust installed saturday02:32
nflavamy problem is...02:32
Jucatoum.. "newest" doesn't tell me anything02:32
JucatoHardy has both KDE 3.5.9 and KDE 4.0.302:32
nflavaah02:33
nflavalet me try to look02:33
bittinyea users choice02:33
nflavawhat would be the best way to find that out02:34
nflavaim looking but not sure where to go02:34
nflavaI think I turned on grahpic enhancements for my desktop but my vid card cant run it smooth so my title bar is not working properly?02:35
Jucatonflava: simple (but unreliable) way.. is your bottom panel black?02:35
Jucatowith big icons02:35
nflavano02:35
nflavawhite02:35
JucatoKDE 3 then :)02:35
Jucatoif you right-click on it, can you select -> Help -> About KDE?02:35
nflavaheh i should have thought of htat02:36
nflava3.5.902:36
Jucatoyep. you can change D3lphin, but may not be related to your problem atall02:36
nflavaill leave it, and about my title bar, it has no min, max, exit buttons in the upper right and i cant click on a title bar to move the window, it just stays where it is02:37
Jucatorunning Compiz right? (Desktop Effects)02:39
nflavamaybe thats what it is, i guess i need to turn that off02:41
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Jucatoor you can try asking for help in #compiz-fusion02:41
nflavanah I just want whatever is simpilest for now02:41
nflavahm bad spelling on that one02:41
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rogermorrishello02:45
bittinHi rogermorris02:45
rogermorrisi am new to ubuntu02:46
makavelianyone know why my flash wouldn't be working ?02:49
makaveliim using kubuntu hardy02:50
_CrashMaster_define "not working"02:50
_CrashMaster_errors?02:50
makaveliflash videos are telling me to download the latest flash player02:50
_CrashMaster_I had the same issue02:51
_CrashMaster_I had to go to adobe.com and download.02:51
_CrashMaster_using ff3?02:51
makaveliyup02:51
_CrashMaster_Yeah, the web based installer for flash doesnt work in ff302:52
_CrashMaster_go to adobe.com and download / install from there02:52
nflavais any other ideas Jucato02:54
DaveyJhello02:55
DaveyJrecently i've been having problems with my sound drivers; like if firefox is open,amarok wont work. now when i try to run amarok it says it coudlnt initialize the xine engine02:55
makaveliare you using amd64 crashmaster ?02:59
_CrashMaster_makaveli: Nope.02:59
_CrashMaster_I think this thing is an older Pentium M02:59
makavelidid you get a whole bunch of dependency requirements when you tried to install the adobe package ?03:02
_CrashMaster_makaveli: I honestly don't recall03:03
Jucato!flash6403:03
ubottuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava03:03
ElecNinjaIs it just that the sound won't work for both at once?03:04
KetrelI was trying to install GNOME so I could mess with a few things, but when I try, I get this:  Depends: gnome-keyring-manager (>=2.20.0) but it is not installable03:07
hejwell03:09
hejI reinstalled yet again03:09
hejI noticed that during the install, there was a blurb about grub03:09
hejbut I didn't get to choose any options03:10
hejin the end, I swapped my drives so that the drive I installed to was sda instead of sdb03:10
hejand it worked03:10
hejnow I'm just left configuring grub so that I can boot my Vista partition as well03:11
hejbut anyways, seems like maybe there is a slight bug when trying to install to something other than hda/sda03:11
hej(if anybody cares)03:11
hejbtw, would I be advised not to try to mount my fat32 raid1 array that I have setup from Vista?03:15
szakulechej: a FAT32 raid1 array?!?03:24
szakulecplease tell me more about that03:24
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hejszakulec: yes.  I have a pair of drives mirrored, and formatted in fat32.03:31
hejI'm not sure what you want me to elaborate on03:31
szakulecI've just never heard of fat32 and raid together03:33
hejI would think it's fairly common03:33
DarkriftXi used to run fat32 raids03:34
szakulecI guess you're using Raid 1 to get around the poor journaling capabilities of FAT32?03:34
hejit's my main data store, and I wanted to insure that I could view the data from a non-MS os03:34
hejI'm using raid 1 to avoid losing all of my data if a drive bites the dust03:34
hejand my timing was pretty good03:35
hejwithin a week or so of moving all my data to this array03:35
hejthe non-redundant drive I had it stored on died03:35
szakulecI believe it should work as long as you have RAID set up (I don't have any experience in working with RAID)03:35
szakulecalthough I should inform you that NTFS read/writing is very solid and reliable now03:35
hejhmm03:36
hejthat is good to hear03:36
hejthough I'm not going to reformat those drives at this point03:36
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szakulecobviously03:36
szakulecbut do check out NTFS-3G at some point so you can see if it's right for you03:36
hejis anybody here fairly proficient with grub?03:36
hejI need to add my Vista installation on sda2 to my list of boot choices03:37
Ketrelhej, is it on the first partition of sda2?03:42
hejit is on the second partition of sda03:42
hejkubuntu is on sda103:42
bittinhej: hej03:43
hejI'm not swedish03:43
hejthe nick is coicidental03:43
hejI also do not understand any swedish, aside from "hej"03:43
bittinhaha ok iam a swede :D03:43
hejbittin: hello03:43
hejyes, I figured you were03:44
bittinhaha ok03:44
hejI always found it quite interesting how much friendly and more excited swedes are on irc03:44
hejfriendlier03:44
bittinhaha to bad iam not master off grub then :(03:45
hejme either03:45
Ketrelhej: do you have something that's not working or are you trying to add it fresh03:45
hejketrei: the kubuntu installation never gave me any options for configuring grub03:45
hejand as it is, the default setup did not include anything but my kubuntu partition03:46
KetrelIf I understand your drive layout, try this03:46
KetreltitleVista03:46
Ketrelrootnoverify (hd0,1)03:46
Ketrelmakeactive03:46
Ketrelchainloader +103:46
hejso I need to add an entry03:46
hejok03:46
Ketrel(there's a tab between Title and vista)03:46
hejyes that is probably accurate03:46
hejyeah, I just needed the general commands03:46
hejthanks03:46
hejI can do that from the grub command prompt, or just add that directly to a config file03:46
Ketrelit gets more complicated when the OSes are on different drives, but that hopefully will work since they're on the same drive03:48
hejyeah I've tried in the past to boot secondary drives03:48
hejI can't remember if I ever got it to work or not, that was ages ago03:48
se7en!grub03:48
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:48
ubuntu_hello03:55
ubuntu_what ups03:55
ubuntu_is kde still going to support the older versions cause there are some things that I do not like about the new kde 4 version03:56
ubuntu_like the layout for system settings03:56
ubuntu_I like the old layout better03:56
ubuntu_for kcontrol03:56
ubuntu_is their a way to change it to the old look03:57
ubuntu_like this http://www.tuxmachines.org/images/ultimalive/kcontrol.jpg03:57
ubuntu_it is one of the only things that bothers me with the new version03:58
ubuntu_?04:06
se7enubuntu_: kde4 is imho not usable ... use kde3 for now04:07
ubuntu_is kde still supporting older version?04:08
ubuntu_or are they just going to support kde 4 now04:08
ubuntu_for updates and what not04:09
se7enkde4 is far away form being stabe ... so yes kde3 is still supported for a while ...04:09
Jucatoubuntu_: there's talk of a 3.5.10 release soon.04:09
Jucatose7en: actually that's not entirely true04:10
ubuntu_cool04:10
Jucatoas far as KDE is concerned. KDE 4 is the stable release (but not complete, 2 different things), while KDE 3 is a sort of legacy release04:10
ubuntu_kde4 is stable04:10
Jucatothere may or may not be future maintenance releases for KDE 3. nothing's definite04:10
ubuntu_I like kde404:11
ubuntu_their are just some things that I do not like about it04:11
ubuntu_I like the widgets04:11
se7enlike i said will be supported for a while ...04:12
ubuntu_and the oxygen theme04:12
ubuntu_like domino for theme too04:13
se7enlast time i checked it was bearly usable but this is also a while ago ... might have changed ... but i need my box to work04:13
Jucatoask the domino guy to port it to KDE 404:13
Jucato(but oxygen is lovely :P)04:13
Jucatose7en: you know you can have both KDE 3 and KDE 4 installed right? :)04:13
se7enJucato: yes i know ... thanks04:14
ubuntu_domino, crystal cursor, crystal icons project, kwin windows decorations = bad a@# machine04:14
Jucato(ew.. crystal...)04:14
ubuntu_crystal kicks but04:15
ubuntu_butt04:15
Jucatooh well.. art is the hardest thing to "standardize". to each his own04:15
ubuntu_crystal cursor is cool I like the blue theme04:15
ubuntu_thats what linux is all about being able to modifty it to ones own need or likeness04:16
ubuntu_theses are the icons I am talking about so not to confuse with other icons http://www.everaldo.com/crystal/?action=downloads04:18
ubuntu_domino has a port for kde404:18
ubuntu_o wait no domino port must be confused with another project04:21
ubuntu_it any ones interested I translated this login theme to english http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Cybertron-login?content=3055304:22
ubuntu_I haven't uploaded it yet thought04:23
ubuntu_I think I should ask the author first04:23
ubuntu_the preview will still be in portuguese04:25
ubuntu_though04:25
ubuntu_just the login screen with be in english04:25
ubuntu_it is easy to do though I just edited the config files for the login theme04:26
shaffycan anyone point me to a resource that tutorials an installation of a scanner (in 8.04 preferably)?  i have a hp scanjet 3670, if it makes any difference.04:28
se7enubuntu_: do it yourself all you have to do is edit the .xml file and change the italian words to english or whaterver ...04:29
ubuntu_thats what I did04:30
ubuntu_it was in portuguese04:30
se7enso ...04:30
ubuntu_I brought it up to see if any one was interested in me uploading the translated version that I translated04:31
se7enoh ok04:31
sparr_kde control center keyboard settings show repeat on, ive done "xset r on", and i still have no keyboard repeat.  what can i try next?04:31
ubuntu_scanner tutorial t any ones interested I translated this login theme to english http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Cybertron-login?content=3055304:31
ubuntu_whoops04:32
ubuntu_http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialScanners.html04:32
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ubuntu_shaffy: they might have some info on scanners at http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/Main_Page here is a tutorial for scanners with linux04:36
ubuntu_http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialScanners.html04:36
pagan0nequick question, i just installed the hibernation script, and i want to make it so any user can run it w/o roots password, how can i allow this?04:37
ubuntu_reinstall it with fakeroot makebe04:38
ubuntu_maybe04:38
ubuntu_that might do it04:38
pagan0neubuntu_: you talkin 2 me?04:38
ubuntu_yeah04:38
ChuckFuI installed Kubuntu 7.04 and have upgraded to 8.04 now, in thte beginning the system ran like lightening now it is sloooooowwwwww, any reported problems04:39
pagan0neubuntu_: i was kinda hoping for a way just to allow a single program to launch w/ root privlages w/o having to give it roots password04:39
TannI messed up KDE4 because I changed settings for graphics that my card can't handle. How can i change this setting back fomr kde3?04:39
Tannor, I enabeld them rather04:39
ubuntu_I have no idea04:39
malik_how do i add more than one time zone to system clock in kde4 kubuntu 8.04?04:40
malik_!clock04:40
ubottuFactoid clock not found04:40
charles__chuckfu:  Do you have top installed?04:40
ChuckFudon't think so, if so I did not install it on purpose04:41
charles__top is a little command line program that will list all currently running processes and show you what is using resources04:41
ubuntu_top should be installed04:41
ChuckFuhow would I start and use it04:41
charles__open Konsole04:42
charles__then just type the word top04:42
ubuntu_just type in top and press enter04:42
ChuckFuslooooooowwww going there04:42
ChuckFuok got it04:43
charles__there is a column that says PU and another that says %MEM, it should show you in there what is eating all your resources04:43
charles__PU04:43
ubuntu_process id04:43
charles__heh, I was trying to say percent CPU04:43
charles__my IRC fu is weak04:43
ubuntu_PID04:44
ChuckFugot you04:44
malik_how do i add more than one time zone to system clock in kde4 kubuntu 8.04?04:44
ChuckFuroot pull 22% sometimes04:44
charles__what about MEM?04:45
ubuntu_I don't think you can add more than one time zone04:45
ChuckFuaround 3.704:45
charles__you may have a problem where a process is eating all your RAM and you're swapping all the time04:45
ChuckFuhow do I fix that04:46
ubuntu_kill04:46
ChuckFuwhen I type here it goes to 59%04:46
charles__well, for root I wouldn't recommend killing it04:46
ChuckFuroot that is04:46
ubuntu_kill processidhere04:46
ElecNinjaOh, does anyone know if it'll be possible to use kmenu in KDE 4?04:46
ubuntu_yes04:46
ubuntu_right click add04:47
ubuntu_ElecNinja:04:47
ubuntu_on the panel04:47
ElecNinjaIt's okay, I'm just wondering if it's possible.04:48
ChuckFuirc.freenode.ne04:48
ChuckFutop - 20:48:16 up 16:36,  1 user,  load average: 0.33, 0.46, 0.4304:48
ChuckFuTasks: 103 total,   2 running, 101 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie04:48
ChuckFuCpu(s): 12.6%us, 16.6%sy,  0.0%ni, 70.4%id,  0.0%wa,  0.3%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st04:48
ChuckFuMem:   2075760k total,   633304k used,  1442456k free,    38252k buffers04:48
ChuckFuSwap:  6080560k total,        0k used,  6080560k free,   345068k cached04:48
ChuckFuis there a place you would rather have this kind of info displayed04:49
charles__ChuckFu: easy on the flood, but it looks like you have plenty of processor and mem04:49
dsmith_kde4 is sooo different04:50
dsmith_is it stable now?04:50
charles__ChuckFu, what kind of video acceleration do you have?04:50
ChuckFuwhere do I go to find that out04:51
ubuntu_ElecNinja: yes it is possible04:51
ubuntu_ElecNinja: you add the applet to the panel then remove the other applet so that you just have kmenu04:52
ferfactorey i have a problem but i don't have a good english, so i hope that one kubuntuser can help me in spanish please04:52
ubuntu_no conpreday04:53
se7en!es04:53
ubottuAquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.04:53
TannI messed up KDE4 because I enabled settings for graphics that my card can't handle. How can i change this setting back fomr kde3?04:53
ubuntu_mi fari esperanto04:53
charles__ChuckFu, go to Hardware Drivers and see if you have a restricted video card04:54
ferfactorok si planteo mi problema en ingles me podrán auxiliar supongo vd?04:54
ubuntu_mi paroli Esperanto04:55
charles__ChuckFu, Hardware Drivers is under System04:55
ubuntu_fari vi paroli Esperanto?04:55
ferfactorwhich is tje main difference betwen compiz engine and compiz KDE???04:56
ubuntu_?04:56
ubuntu_no cule04:56
ubuntu_blues clues04:56
ElecNinjaThakns ubuntu_04:57
ubuntu_you are welcome04:57
charles__compiz engine was written primarily for Gnome, whereas the compiz KDE is designed to work a little better for KDE04:57
charles__ChuckFu, you still there?04:59
ChuckFuyes still looking04:59
ubuntu_ElecNinja: you might want to drag the icon to where you want it because when I add the applet in kde4 it added it at the end and I was not able to move it like you can in kde 304:59
charles__ChuckFu, another way is to just type lcpci in Konsole and find your video hardware in there05:00
charles__lspci05:00
charles__sorry05:00
ChuckFuit is just soooooo slow05:00
charles__no worries05:00
shaffythanks for the URLs ubuntu.05:01
ElecNinjaubuntu>: Wow, that's pretty odd. Thanks for the tip. Though I'm not going to use KDE 4 for quite a while.05:01
shaffy:)05:01
ubuntu_ChuckFu: maybe someone hacked into your system and is using it as a pr0n node05:01
charles__that's not far fetched either05:01
charles__strong passwords are a must05:01
ChuckFuhahahah not funny lol05:01
Daisuke-LaptopChuckFu: if they are, i have first dibs on any good stuff05:02
ubuntu_ChuckFu: you can use tools like tiger, chkrookit, rkhunter, and systraq to check if someone has05:02
ChuckFusays command not found05:02
charles__lspci?05:02
se7enlspci | grep -i vga05:02
ubuntu_grep is a cool command05:03
ubuntu_so is wget05:03
charles__yes they are05:03
ChuckFuA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] rev  0105:04
charles__the command line is fun when you get to be close friends with it05:04
charles__Radeon.....05:04
ChuckFuit was working find until I upgraded to 8.0405:04
charles__do you know if you tried enable AIGLIX?05:04
ChuckFuno I have not tried that05:05
charles__sorry, fglrx05:05
charles__that's the 3d drivers for ATI cards05:05
ChuckFuhay wait I may have tried05:05
ubuntu_you could try mesa3d05:05
charles__by the look of things something is making X dog slow for you05:06
Daisuke-Laptopubuntu_: enough about that - he wants *actual* 3d performance.05:06
flaccid!ati05:06
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:06
charles__since your processor isn't being eaten and you had plenty for free RAM05:06
ChuckFuI don't need 3d how do I disable it05:07
charles__you're using KDE3?05:08
ubuntu_https://launchpad.net/~madman2k/+archive if you want you could use mesa3d from here05:08
ubuntu_I use it and05:08
ubuntu_I am able to play 3d games05:08
ubuntu_but it is not as good fglrx05:08
ubuntu_but it's open source so if you prefer open source use mesa with the oss ati drivers05:09
ChuckFuhummm  still lookingg around05:09
charles__if you want, just go to the start menu, then up to system settings05:10
charles__when you get there go to monitor and display05:10
charles__click administrator mode05:10
charles__then go to the hardware tab05:10
charles__go the the Graphics card and click the configure button05:11
ChuckFuok lets try this for size05:12
charles__select the standard driver05:12
charles__another option that you have is to type sudo apt-get remove fglrx05:12
charles__then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:13
charles__answer the questions and then ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X05:13
charles__that's more risky though if you don't do it right05:13
charles__I've borked my system before doing that05:14
ubuntu_how is matrox for 3d acceleration05:14
charles__fine if you don't want to play a lot of really 3d intensive games05:14
charles__about on par with intel graphics05:15
charles__I hope ChuckFu is ok, I would hate to sour him on linux if he's new to it05:16
charles__I will say that I had more trouble with my computer when I upgraded, so a clean install did the trick05:18
charles__oop, if he comes back I'm away for a few05:19
charles__shhh everyone the baby is sleeping05:26
hsystemxok ...05:27
charles__joke, not too much going on right at the minute05:27
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ElecNinjaOkay , I have a question. Why is it that in Kubuntu, all of my ram is used all the time?05:28
charles__buffers and cache05:28
charles__kde caches apps that you use05:28
Daisuke-Laptopit's freed up as it's needed05:28
charles__as well as accounts05:28
ElecNinjaI see.05:28
charles__for instance log in when you first start the computer and it'll be slower than if you log out and log back in05:29
ElecNinjaYeah.05:29
ElecNinjaOkay, next question. Though this is probably due to the nature of the transfer. Whenever I trasfer a large size folder or a number of large sized folders, in the Gigabyte range, my comp slows down quite a bit.05:30
ElecNinjaUsing dolphin05:30
ElecNinjaNot sure about konqueror.05:30
charles__what filesystems are you transferring to and from?05:30
charles__also, when you do that it increases the random access of the hdd which will slow it down05:31
charles__fuse also requires a good bit of resources sometimes05:31
ElecNinjaIt's usually an ext3 partition on my comp to an external HDD of the same fs05:31
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charles__it's probably the system negotiating with USB and also as I said a minute ago your random reads increase05:32
charles__those make hdd access slower05:32
ElecNinjaI see, but it's the whole computer that gets affected. Not just the speed of transfer. It's that when switching to another program, it takes more than ten times as long as it usually would.05:34
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charles__well when you transfer via USB it has to go through the RAM instead of riding the system bus05:34
josehola05:35
josecomo estan05:35
ElecNinjaAh05:35
charles__all that data goes into the RAM then into the drive05:35
ElecNinjaI see.05:35
josehola05:35
joseque mas05:35
charles__keep shooting I'll be here till the baby is good and asleep05:36
ElecNinjahola jose.05:36
crashhandler how to hide small icon beside the application names on kmenu?anyone knows?05:36
charles__all of them?05:36
crashhandlercharles__ if you are asking me,the answer is yes05:37
charles__not something that I've done before, but if you right click on the Big K and go to Menu Editor it may be in there05:37
crashhandler:s05:37
ElecNinjaIt isn't05:37
charles__nope, I just looked05:38
charles__another way is to delete the icons from their directory, but I can't remember where that is off hand05:38
crashhandlerowh.05:39
Danger_XXXHi05:40
Danger_XXXSOS......SOS05:40
Danger_XXXI need help05:41
charles__well spill it!05:41
charles__crashhandler:  KDE does have a central directory where all the icons are stored05:42
Danger_XXXI could not find Kubuntu in my country..in sale..I have low speed connection-dial-up...however, I need Kubuntu..what to do)))05:43
crashhandleric...and what is 'show side image' in kde panel configuration?05:43
charles__I think that they can send it to you via mail05:43
flaccidDanger_XXX: bittorrent05:43
charles__he had dial up flaccid, it would take weeks05:43
crashhandlernothing change in my menu whether i tick 'show side image' or not05:44
crashhandlerit is located inside kde panel>menu05:44
flaccidcharles__: what other options are there05:44
charles__crashhandler, dunno I'm new to KDE more of an old school motif, Gnome guy05:44
Danger_XXXbittorrent unfortunately doesnt have needed speed05:45
flaccidDanger_XXX: buy it outside of your country05:45
flaccidor wait for shipit05:45
flaccid!shipit05:45
ubottushipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Hardy (8.04) CDs05:45
charles__flaccid, you can order them via mail I believe.  Another way is to go to distrowatch.org there is a link there somewhere to have them make and send you distros05:45
Danger_XXXubottubig thanks...i'll try05:46
ubottuDanger_XXX: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:46
flaccidyeah well lots of sources around the world to mail order it05:46
Danger_XXXby the way last year I said to my friend to buy Ubuntu in US but he could not find it in sale05:47
charles__Danger, heh they don't really sell it.  You can sell it, but I've never seen it for sale05:48
charles__Danger if you have a friend that visits the states again and you want him to grab linux distros05:48
charles__just have him find the linux user group in that city and they'll be all to happy to help him out05:49
Danger_XXX :D05:49
Danger_XXXok charles__05:49
charles__but as the bot said ShipIt and http://distrowatch.org should be able to help05:49
charles__http://www.osdisc.com05:50
charles__you can buy them worldwide there05:50
Danger_XXXthanks05:51
charles__no problem05:51
charles__happy to help05:51
charles__Any questions about it before you install?05:51
Danger_XXXI have installed UBUNTU , problem was in creating unix type partitions05:59
Danger_XXXI had window preinstalled05:59
charles__ahhh, and you wanted to partition up the drive?06:00
Danger_XXXyeah06:00
charles__it's usually pretty painless Gparted handles it pretty well06:00
charles__what kind of trouble did you have?06:00
Danger_XXXfor instance I have C and D local drives..how to convert C to unix partition?06:02
charles__the whole drive?06:02
Danger_XXXyes06:02
charles__in windows format the drive06:02
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charles__then when you boot into the live cd and you get to the partition editor06:03
charles__you go to manual and choose that disk to be formatted, then set its mount point to /06:03
Danger_XXXis there any third part aplication through which we can manage both Windows and Unix partitions?06:06
charles__there is a Gparted live cd that can do that06:07
charles__the live cd in ubuntu can do it as well in manual mode06:07
Danger_XXXis it free? I mean Gparted live cd06:08
flaccidqtparted is fine, no?06:08
charles__yes it's free06:08
charles__qtparted is pretty much the same06:08
flaccidyeah06:08
charles__Gparted is built on GTK and Qtpared is built on the QT libs06:08
flaccidsince we are in kubuntu here and not ubuntu..06:09
flaccidah but he is on ubuntu heh06:09
charles__yep06:11
charles__not that it really matters though06:11
charles__they both work well with eachother these days06:11
dontbugmehey06:13
charles__sorry don't want to bug you06:13
charles__:)06:13
dontbugmeheheh06:13
* NightBird bugs dojonet__06:13
* NightBird retargets his bugging to target dontbugme06:13
* NightBird also shakes his fist at tab autocomplete06:14
* dontbugme was bugged once and switched to this handle06:14
dontbugmehehe06:14
NightBirdlike someone filed a bug report?06:14
DrUnKnMuNkYhey everyone. i'm trying to resize (shrink) an ext3 partition using parted but it tells me that an incompatible feature is enabled. dumpe2fs list these features enabled: has_journal resize_inode dir_index filetype sparse_super large_file. anyone know how to go about this?06:14
* NightBird sleeps06:15
dontbugmenight....06:15
dontbugmecrap....brb :(*06:20
murphhey, what package is /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc in? i seem to have deleted mine.06:52
darkwhat up06:53
wershow do i install hardy kde4 remix on my Ubuntu hardy install?06:54
darkif you have enough disc space you could split the partition and install it06:55
darkI recommend using parted magic for partitioning your hard drive06:55
Daisuke_Idodark: that's the most pointless idea ever, i'm sorry.06:55
BonesolTeraDynewers: 'sudo aptitude install kubuntu-kde4-desktop' will get you the KDE4 desktop06:55
Daisuke_Idowers: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop06:56
Daisuke_Idowers: then choose kde4 at login06:56
wersthat wont install kdm for me, right?06:56
Daisuke_Idowers: it will, but it will ask if you want to use gdm or kdm06:57
wersokay :)06:57
scott__Hey, I am trying to connect to both the internet across a usb wireless card and my external hardrive across an ethernet cable but the network mananger won"t let me connect to both at the same time. does anyone have any ideas of how i can do this?06:57
wersare you guys using kde4 or is it still too unstable for you? :)06:58
scott__that is what i have06:58
Daisuke_Idowers: personally, a little unstable for me, but #kubuntu-kde4 is a good place to discuss it06:58
darkis firefox beta 3 using konquerors khtml?06:59
flaccidum i don't think so06:59
Daisuke_Idouh07:00
Daisuke_Idowhat?07:00
Daisuke_Idofirefox has never used khtml07:00
BonesolTeraDynedark: Firefox always uses the Gecko engine.07:00
flaccidGecko/2008050509 Firefox/3.0b507:00
darko07:00
darkwhy is it that the search buttons look just like the ones when I use konqueror07:01
darkbefore it was not like that07:01
BonesolTeraDynedark: sounds like a Theme thing. Maybe it's using the Crystal theme.07:02
Daisuke_Idoah, that's a new feature in ff307:02
* BonesolTeraDyne only uses SeaMonkey07:02
Daisuke_Idoinstead of its own "widgets" like buttons and such, it now uses native styles07:02
flacciddark: its in system settings i believe - whether gtk uses style from kde or not07:02
Daisuke_Idoflaccid: that's firefox's thing, not kde's, but it can be turned off in firefox if he chooses07:03
flaccidthats what im saying07:03
flaccidbut the feature is not firefox' thing07:03
darkit says that my theme is IceWeasel07:04
Daisuke_Idoit is, it's new in FF307:04
darkwhich is what debian names firefox07:04
flaccidim talking about gtk styles and fonts in system settings?07:04
darkthat probably happened becuase I just had debian installed with the /home being on it's own partition07:04
jckffyidose any one know how to properly use the ln command, I have the man page open, but I honestly cannot figure out how to link two directories togather with ln -s, I have tried ln -s /path/to/target /path/to/link and also the opposite of that, neither work.07:05
darkbut now I am using kubuntu07:05
Daisuke_Idoi'm talking about FF's recent move to using native system styles on webpages rather than plain old boring buttons and dropdowns07:05
darko I see07:05
alexbobpI have alsa installed, but I still can't play audio from multiple programs at once, and any time flash gets ahold of my audio hardware I can't play audio until I reboot.  How do I make sure my sound servers are running properly?07:05
Daisuke_Idoit was a move implemented in FF3 to improve the integrated look07:05
flaccidthat was possible before ff307:05
Daisuke_Idobut it's default in FF3, which is why people are noticing it now07:06
darkI see07:06
flaccidand is different in kde3 and kde4 however07:06
darkyeah I am using kde307:06
flaccidyep07:07
darkso how do you go to system to system without problems when having home on it's own partition07:07
darkI had a link for it but I have lost it07:07
flaccidyou might want to fix up /home ?07:08
darkthat's it07:08
darkI like it so far all my themes are the same and my bookmarks are in firefox07:08
darkso I do not have to waste time and put them all back07:09
flaccidwell what is the actual problem07:09
darknothing so far07:10
flaccidok, so put /home in fstab.. ?07:10
darkit is07:10
flaccidthen what is the problem07:10
jckffyihow do I use ln?07:11
jckffyithe man page doesn't help07:11
flaccid!symlink | jckffyi07:11
ubottujckffyi: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal07:11
flaccidlike ln -s /path/to/link/to ./newsymlinkname07:11
darkthe command line can seem complicated at first but07:12
flaccidand the man page is fine :)07:12
darkSimplicity = Limitations07:12
darkComplexity = Capabilities07:12
flaccidah ok then07:13
calcmandanhow does one register an account on this channel?07:14
calcmandan/?07:15
jckffyiyeah, that worked, thanks, the man page sucks.07:15
jckffyithanks!07:15
darkit is not the channel you register too it is the server07:15
BonesolTeraDyne!register | calcmandan07:15
ubottucalcmandan: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.07:15
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tarragonI am having terrible trouble installing Hardy or Gutsy. Feisty runs fine. New install always dies at 39% with I/O error. I have changed the HD, RAM, DVD but still no help. Is there a md5sum so I can check the media?07:38
calcmandanit happened to me too.07:38
jussi01!md507:38
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows07:38
calcmandani just made a new disc.07:38
flaccid!alternate | tarragon07:39
ubottutarragon: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Kubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/8.04/kubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent07:39
tarragonThanks I will try that tonight. I did install, but it was Gutsy Ubuntu (30 minutes), then upgrade to Hardy (three hours) then kubuntu desktop another 40 minutes. It is wonderful but I would like to make it easier should I need to rebuild.07:41
geniiAny way to find out subpartition data of sda2 for instance from an dd image of sda?07:47
* genii contemplates a makedev sda07:52
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crashhandleris there any ways to customize kde kickoff menu?08:12
Daisuke_Idokde4?08:13
Daisuke_Ido(i would hope - i can't imagine anyone using it willingly)08:14
s0ursehi guys, anyone around can help me out with dual monitors?08:18
madberrys0urse ican try08:19
yao_ziyua1does anyone notice that kdesu <command> will use a default kde style that differs from yours? how do i change this system default kde style?08:19
s0ursemadberry thanks08:19
s0ursei have a nvidia 7600gt08:19
madberryk08:19
s0ursekubuntu recognizes one monitor beautifully and uses the correct resolution (1280x1024)08:20
s0ursethe other monitor it says <unknown> and that monitor is showing all sorts of colors and stuff flying through the screen08:20
s0ursei tried using envyng to install drivers but it keeps giving an api error08:20
madberrywhat version of kubuntu are you running?08:21
s0urse8.0408:21
madberrywhat is the exact text of the error?08:21
s0urselet me get that for you08:21
madberryk08:21
s0ursethe error in envy right?08:21
madberryyep08:21
anhnguyenHi08:23
s0urseFuture Warning: got API not stable yet08:23
yao_ziyua1i see how now. kdesu systemsettings08:23
madberryok that's this bug08:23
s0ursewanring.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)08:24
madberryhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/envyng-core/+bug/22172308:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 221723 in envyng-core "Envyng fails due to error msg about unstable apt" [Undecided,In progress]08:24
madberryplease post the output of sudo aptitude search nvidia08:24
anhnguyenDoes Acetone CD/DVD simulator still work on hardy?08:24
madberryanhnguyen don'y know did you try it?08:25
anhnguyenYes, but it's not functional in my case.08:25
anhnguyenI don't know why...08:25
s0ursek im reading through this thread08:25
s0urseget that to you in a sec08:25
madberry!paste08:26
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)08:26
madberryplease use the url above08:26
madberryto paste the output08:26
madberryanhnguyen what doesn't it do?08:27
anhnguyenIts ISO mounting function doesn't seem to work properly all the time.08:27
anhnguyenSometimes, I can mount, but sometimes I can't.08:27
anhnguyenOn Gutsy, I can do it all the time.08:28
anhnguyenAdditionally, my laptop is TOSHIBA (Dual Core - 2310 chipset of Intel).08:28
s0ursehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1361608:28
anhnguyenIs that possibly a kind of compatibility problem?08:29
madberrydid you use sudo envyng -t to install ?08:30
s0urseno i just used apt08:30
madberryok try this in terminal sudo envyng -g08:31
s0ursek08:31
flaccid!envy08:31
ubottuenvyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository and has community support. As an early version, its results may vary but this should be used over the unsupported envy package.08:31
flaccid:)08:31
s0urseneed to install envy-gtk08:31
madberryare ok type sudo apt-get install envy-gtk08:32
flaccidwhy would you need to do that?08:32
s0urseinstalling now08:32
madberryare you running kubuntu?08:33
s0urseyup08:33
s0urselooks like were in business08:33
madberrymmm08:33
s0urseits actually doing something now08:33
madberryok08:33
flaccidhardware drivers/restricted manager is fine and if not do it via cli08:34
Daisuke_Idogah!08:34
frybyeHi - one for the HW gurus.. I am in the process of buying a new box with an "el cheapo" msi K9N6SGM-V M-board and I notice on the support page of the manuf. that this m-board does not support win98/ME for chipset reasons - could that also indicate probs with kubuntu??08:34
Daisuke_Ido!envy08:34
ubottuenvyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository and has community support. As an early version, its results may vary but this should be used over the unsupported envy package.08:34
Daisuke_Idocertainly better than it used to be :)08:34
s0ursek im restarting08:34
frybyemorgen flaccid... good to c u again...08:34
madberryk08:34
flaccidhowdy08:35
madberryfrybye google doesn't suggest any problems08:37
s0ursek i restarted and now its just sitting at the black screen with the login08:38
s0ursescreen flickered a few times08:38
frybyemadberry: doooh - I must confess I had not googled it - thought the problem was too detailed for google to help much... should have tried though...08:38
madberryok08:38
s0ursebut im stuck here08:38
madberrystuck why/08:38
madberry?08:38
s0ursewell not really stuck08:38
s0ursebut ya, im at a black screen08:39
flaccids0urse: reconfigure xorg.conf to use vesa then remove all nvidia packages and use hardware drivers / restricted manager08:39
s0ursewith the login prompt08:39
s0ursek i need to google that stuff. brb08:39
flaccids0urse: login and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure08:39
madberrywhat flaccid sai lol08:39
madberrysaid*08:39
flaccidi mean sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:39
flaccidselect vesa then do the driver through the gui08:40
flaccidsudo /etc/init.d/kdm start to start login screen after the reconfigure08:40
s0ursekool thanks08:40
flaccidnp08:41
madberryflaccid thanks for taking over gotta go take a shower....08:41
flaccidk08:41
frybyemadberry: I read that that m-board supports 2 x sata hdisks.. eh I take it that in fact one could be a hd and the other a sata cd/dvd optical drive or...?08:41
s0ursedidnt see an option for vesa08:41
frybyestill - this is more the problem of the store.. they claim to do a function check...08:41
flaccids0urse: ok pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then change driver to "vesa" in there08:41
flaccidsorry sudo pico..08:42
s0ursekk08:42
madberryfrybye i think you're right08:42
frybyemadberry: we shall see- cant wait to get my hands on it - next tue/weds..08:43
madberrylet me know lol08:43
s0urseflacid: so instead of kbd in the inputdevice section i change it to vesa08:44
frybyehave been dying to properly install hh but hasnt worked as a tri-boot with xp-vista-hh on my existing pc - and i need a second one anyhow - so now I can try hh -and- save a loada cash for an op.system at the same time.. hehe08:44
flaccids0urse: in Section "device" -> driver08:44
s0ursei have to create that line, theres nothing written there. all there is is Identified "configured video device"08:45
flaccidnp08:46
s0ursenow try to start again?08:46
flaccidare you on kde3 ?08:47
s0ursegenious08:47
s0ursei believe kde3, yes08:47
s0ursek the screens are now cloning08:47
s0ursewhich is a huge step forward08:47
flaccids0urse: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart08:47
ct529\list #kubuntu08:50
ct529sorry wrong slah08:50
s0urseflaccid: ok so now the screens are cloning. however in the hardware section it still says monitor#2 as <unknown> and when i try to change the setting on the first tab it wont let me apply it08:50
flaccids0urse: cloning? what are the things you are trying to achieve?08:51
s0urseto get the 2 monitors working as an extended desktop08:51
s0ursedual monitors08:51
flaccids0urse: what is your lspci | grep -i video?08:52
flaccidwhat version of kubuntu08:52
s0urseflaccid: 8.0408:53
s0urseflaccid: just tried running that command you asked and nothing happened08:53
flaccidoops i meant lspci | grep -i vga08:53
msowdersHas anyone been having this problem since they updated? Nautilus cannot handle computer: locations. its not only that I cant read my ntfs drive either. Or cdroms/floppies...08:54
flaccidmsowders: try #ubuntu08:54
msowdersthanks08:54
flaccidnp08:54
msowders#ubuntu08:54
msowderser08:54
s0urseflaccid: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7600 GT] (rev a1)08:55
flaccidgoto the menu and run hardware drivers, what does it say?08:55
flaccidand i hope you removed the nvidia packages08:55
s0ursein apt?08:56
flaccidin system settings08:56
s0urseor envy08:56
flaccidyou may need to sudo apt-get install restricted-manager-kde & kdesudo restricted-manager-kde &08:57
s0urseim trying to make sure nvidia drivers are uninstalled, how would i do that08:57
flaccidwell im not sure how you got all those, i'll make a command to try and remove08:58
flaccids0urse: what is in restricted manager atm09:00
s0urseflaccid:  just uninstalled the drivers from envy so its restarting. gimme 1 sec09:00
flaccidk09:00
ActionParsniphey guys09:01
s0urseflaccid: k im back in, how do i check the restricted manager09:04
flaccidone sec09:07
flaccids0urse: kdesudo jockey-kde09:08
s0urseNVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (latest cards)09:09
s0ursehas a box that says enabled with nothing checked09:09
s0urseand says status - not in use09:09
flaccidcheck it and press ok09:10
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s0ursek it did some things09:13
s0ursei got a warning in the konsole that says WARNING: /sys/module/nvidia_new/drivers does not exist. cannot rebind nvidia_new driver09:13
flaccidyou will then need to restart. when was the last time you had dual going? was it on hardy and with the restricted driver?09:13
s0urseno i had it going with ms vista09:15
s0urseim a ms tech for a company09:15
s0ursei know that inside and out09:15
s0urselinux im learning and obviously know next to nothing09:15
flaccidok no worries. i think that might be just a warning, try the restart09:15
sec-infowho are you09:15
ActionParsnipsec-info: very profound09:16
petgrillhi i have a problem after installing ATI drivers on my kubuntu i can't logout and whenever i login the login sceen is lower resolution from the desktop can anyone help me plz?09:18
sec-infoqui etez vous09:18
ActionParsnip!fr | sec-info09:18
ubottusec-info: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr09:18
flaccidpetgrill: which ati driver are you using and which kubuntu version?09:18
petgrillflaccid: i am a newbie so can you plz tell me how i check that?09:19
petgrillflaccid: i just installed em09:20
s0urseflaccid: stuck back at the shell09:20
flaccids0urse: login and cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:21
mneptoksec-info: s/etez/etes/ ;)09:21
petgrillflaccid: ati driver = 8.47.309:22
flaccidpetgrill:  run grep -i driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf and let me know if ati,radeon or fglrx is in there09:22
s0urseflaccid: server error: no screens found09:23
petgrillfglrx09:23
s0urseand a whole bunch of other stuff before that09:23
flaccids0urse: use more instaed of cat and then find why it failed09:23
petgrillflaccid: fglrx09:23
flaccidpetgrill: and did you try to change the resolution in system settings?09:24
petgrillflaccid: yes09:24
flaccidpetgrill: pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf please09:24
sec-infocomment vais je retrouver la version française09:24
flaccid!fr | sec-info09:26
ubottusec-info: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr09:26
petgrillflaccid: http://pastebin.com/d45c5cfe109:26
flaccidpetgrill: can you paste the whole xorg.conf sorry09:26
s0urseflaccid: one error is that it "failed to initialize nvidia kernel module! pleasure ensure that there is a supported NVIDIA gpu in this system and that the nvidia device files have been created properly."09:27
petgrillflaccid: how do i open the whole thing?09:27
flaccidpetgrill: kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:28
s0urseflaccid: and again at the end "screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration"09:28
ActionParsnips0urse: what nvidia card do you have?09:28
s0urse7600gt09:28
ActionParsnips0urse: have you read:09:28
flaccids0urse: dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia again please09:28
ActionParsnip!nvidia | s0urse09:28
ubottus0urse: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:28
plassaHi there! I wondered if you could give me some recommendations for analog dialup modems that work with Ubuntu?09:28
ActionParsnip!HCL | plassa09:28
ubottuplassa: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection09:28
sec-infocomment installer une imprimante en reseau sur kubuntu09:28
flaccidActionParsnip: we just did that09:28
plassaubottu thanks09:29
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)09:29
flaccidsec-info: english only09:29
ActionParsnipflaccid: ok man09:29
petgrillflaccid: http://pastebin.com/d37f98c1309:29
ActionParsnipplassa: i kicked him to tell you ;)09:29
s0urseflaccid: ill have a look at that page tom. right now i gotta knock out. thanks for all the help!09:30
s0urseill prolly be back in the room tom night to continue this09:30
plassaActionParsnip oh sorry thanks - I always miss bots - too oput of practice with IRC :(09:30
flaccids0urse: well its seems to have failed making the kernel mod. you can try to load it manually with sudo depmod nvidia09:30
ActionParsnipplassa: np, its cool09:30
flaccidpetgrill: which res do you want?09:31
flaccids0urse: hope you did reboo09:31
petgrillflaccid:1280x102409:31
s0urseflaccid: says cant read module nvidia: no such file or directory09:32
s0urseyup i rebooted09:32
plassaTo be honest I don't currently own a modem - but I just had a period of missing adsl for the first time in years and although by pure luck I had nothing needed doing - it got me thinking I really need an external modem for backup :)09:32
flaccids0urse: hardware drivers failed to do the kernel mod09:33
ActionParsnipplassa: they can be useful :)09:33
flaccidpetgrill: were you using dual displays?09:33
plassaStrange how we've come to rely on the internet SO Much in such a short space of time - that's quite worrying in a way09:33
s0urseflaccid: kool. well thanks again for the support. ill pursue the kernel mod tommorow09:33
petgrillflaccid: no only in xp long time ago09:34
ActionParsnipplassa: lil bit, i use it at work then go out and have a laugh. kinda makes me wonder why i pay for www at home09:34
coder2Hi there. After installing and evaluating xawtv I've decided to remove it because there is no way to set up channels except by providing the channel numbers manually. By mistake I've checked xawtv-libs also. But it uninstalled the whole X11 without any warning, including KDE and all the GUI apps. Looks like it is time to give up. Thanks to all who helped me there. I will try the next kubuntu release. Good bye.09:34
plassaAnyway thanks I take it most of those listed will still have windows drivers too? Or do I need to buy two?09:34
ActionParsniperm, ok09:34
plassatoo even09:34
ActionParsnipplassa: yeah they should have win32 drivers09:35
petgrillflaccid: should i return back with generic drivers? where there was no problem?09:36
plassaThanks again seeya09:36
flaccid[18:33] <flaccid> petgrill: were you using dual displays?09:36
petgrill[11:34] <petgrill> flaccid: no only in xp long time ago09:36
flaccidoh that was for that09:37
petgrill:P09:37
flacciddo you need it?09:37
petgrillnot at the moment but yes in the future09:37
flaccidwell we will try without first09:38
petgrillwhat should i do?09:38
dfreyI am trying to install kubuntu and windows XP in a dual-boot configuration.  I installed windows and it worked.  Then I installed kubuntu and that worked.  Then I tried to go back to windows and I got a blue screen on boot and the error message "UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME".  What can I do?09:39
flaccidpetgrill: backup the xorg.conf and the overwrite it with this one: http://pastebin.com/m60e91d97 then restart X server from kdm after logging out to test09:40
petgrillflaccid: how do i backup?09:41
flaccidpetgrill: sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup09:41
se7encp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old09:42
flaccidsorry: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup09:42
petgrillflaccid and how do i add your pastebin? it doesnt let me save09:45
flaccid!pastebin | petgrill09:45
ubottupetgrill: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:45
petgrillflaccid yes i took the index but i can't save it09:46
petgrillflaccid: permition denied09:46
flaccidi don't understand09:46
flaccidto replace your xorg.conf edit it with kdesudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:47
flaccidneed sudo/root to save09:47
petgrillflaccid: http://pastebin.com/d72388e0d09:49
flaccidhmm i keep doing that tonight09:49
flaccidpetgrill:  kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:49
petgrillflaccid ok done it09:50
petgrillflaccid: restart now?09:51
flaccidnow if it doesn't work. you have to goto ctrl+alt+f1 and login and then sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:51
flaccidlogout now to kdm and select restart x server from dropdown09:51
serenityis there a ppa for the latest (beta) nvidia drivers?09:54
flaccidserenity: i havnt not seen one but the ones from nvidia site work fine09:55
serenityflaccid: they have a repo?09:55
flaccidnah download the binary09:56
serenityah09:56
serenitysry09:56
ct529the new update seem to be broken, they have been broken since yesterday09:56
flaccidwhich is probably just as many steps as using a repos..09:56
serenityflaccid: do i need to have any extra package, or just run the script from nvidias site?10:00
serenityor remove other packages, than the old driver?10:01
flaccidserenity: need linux source/headers for your kernel version10:01
flaccidafaik10:01
flaccidremove nvidia driver if installed first ie. nvidia-glx/new/legacy10:01
petgrillflaccid: it didn't worked i had to cp so i can get to login screen10:01
serenityflaccid: did so, nvidia-common also?10:02
flaccidpetgrill: try it again, but when the login screen doesn't come up. run more /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see the problem10:02
petgrillflaccid: it just stuck i couldn't do anything10:03
flaccidpetgrill: press ctrl+alt+f1 to go back to the tty10:03
petgrillflaccid: i did that but nothing10:04
flaccidgreat10:05
flaccidlets try a more simple one10:05
petgrillflaccid: i will bring back vesa drivers10:05
petgrillflaccid where was no problem10:06
petgrillflaccid: thanks for the help :)10:07
flaccidexcept you diddn't get the desired resolution and couldnt change it10:07
flaccidpetgrill: probably wrong modelines for your monitor: http://pastebin.com/m4ae8a4c610:07
petgrillflaccid: i dont know but i am thinking never to buy ATI again... my 1st card burned and now i can't even have the compiz cube effect...(i get white cube of death)10:09
flaccidim on ati atm on kde4 with desktop effects heh10:10
flaccidwell if people give up so easy then don't expect much10:11
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kenshinNero is not burning the Kubuntu iso right. :(10:16
flaccidkenshin: try InfraRecorder10:16
kenshinI get file corruption error in the middle of the install.10:16
Choreboysomeone gave me a linksys wireless print server. It has a USB port, is it possible to use it to have a network external drive hooked up to it?10:19
raaviIs there any option available to tell to synaptic not to remove the unused packages?10:23
flaccidChoreboy: maybe, check the manual10:23
raaviSince, I use some packages very seldom so, I need to keep all the packages for all the time.10:24
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kenshinflaccid, is it possible to run the ubuntu install from the harddisk?10:38
flaccidnot really10:40
flaccid!install10:40
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate10:40
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frybyelag??10:48
Chrysaliswhats the difference between suns java, openjdk java, etc. . . i think i have like 5 installed and i still cant get java to work in konq on a 64bit kubuntu11:13
BaluHey guys, I'm having problems switching my display resolution in the new control panel. I can switch settings, but not apply/save them?11:14
Balu(KDE4)11:15
hectorHi. I've been using kde 3.9.5, and I have troubles to delete archives from other partition disk (dolphin need around 10 minutes to send to the trash big archives); Is it normal ??. Thanks11:31
flaccidhector: i've had that before myself11:34
Chrysalisi think it copies them over to the local disk trash11:34
hectorChrysalis: I think that too, so, kubuntu can't send it directly to trash without copy it first to linux partition ?11:35
Chrysalisi guess not if thats what it does11:36
Boohbahhector: you have not been using kde 3.9.511:37
hectorChrysalis: ok, and....May I configure it (dolphin or other), to go faster ?11:37
hectorBoohbah: sorry, 3.5.9, Im newbie at kubuntu11:38
Chrysalisyou can straigt up delete it without sending to trash11:38
Chrysalisi am a nubie too :P11:38
hectorChrysalis: how ?11:38
Chrysalisshift+delete if its the same as windows11:38
Chrysalishavent treid11:38
hectorIm going to try it now11:39
ds187shift+delete works fine here11:39
Chrysalisok then ;p11:39
hectorOk, thanks :)11:40
Chrysaliswindows makes a hiden folder for trash on the drive you delete11:40
hectorwell, like gnome do, isn't it?11:40
Chrysalisi dont think so, gnome copes over to local trash too i think11:40
Chrysalisi dont know ;/11:40
Chrysalisactually i think you are right, gnome makes a .trash folder so probably doesnt have to cp11:43
hectorwell, now I have a new problem, how can I see hidden archives with dolphin ??11:44
Chrysalisunder 'view' i guess?  or was it first page somewhere in preferences?  i am not on kde atm11:45
hectorChrysalis: yep, but the archives I deleted doesn't appear now11:47
hectorChrysalis: Are those archives directly deleted from the disk / partition ?11:48
Chrysalisif you did shft+delete11:48
hectorahm....Ok :) ; thank you very much :)11:49
hectorBye all :)11:49
dru__hey guys, im trying to find a way to download from an ftp site, where there are a few ftp tutorials on uploading to the server. unfortunatly these are for windoze systems, so i wanted to know if there is a good kubuntu variant for ftp uploading that i can use also perhaps for downloading from the ftp site11:53
dru__.11:53
dru__tecinically i think i shouldnt be actually finding these things, however ftp seems easy enough to crack...any ideas on where i should start...the items that im trying to download are streamed froma radio site. so i basicly want to have that content on my server instead of having to listen to a stream11:56
makdaknifedru__: konqueror is perfectly good at handling ftp11:57
dru__oh okay ... i see11:57
dru__what is then : coffecup , composer , cuteftp, microsoft publisher, or ws_ftp11:58
dru__are these not specific ftp handlers?11:58
ds187ftp-clients and/or prograsmms with integrated ftp-clients11:59
makdaknife^^11:59
dru__does kubuntu have such an application?11:59
ds187if you are searching for a good old ftp-client for kde, give kasablanca a try. i like it11:59
makdaknifekonqueror is perfect for kde11:59
dru__okay thanks ds18711:59
dru__ill give it a google12:00
Chrysalisyou dont need one of those programs to download from ftp12:00
dru__what should i use then12:00
dru__i am assuming that the owner of the site would prefer listener to have acess only to the stream12:01
dru__also12:01
dru__the site seems to allow uploads12:01
dru__however downloading my be another issue12:01
dru__the whole point of my doing this is to find the location of the actual content instead of just the "maped" streams12:03
dru__downloading isnt such a problem, just actually finding it is...thats the reason why id follow their ...tutorials on the subject12:04
flaccid!info krusader12:04
ubottukrusader (source: krusader): twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.90.0-1 (hardy), package size 3112 kB, installed size 8900 kB12:04
thomas_i got some difficulties setting up an external monitor (on hardy with a mobility radeon 9000) can somebody help me there?12:05
dru__thanks flaccid12:05
flaccidnp12:05
makdaknifethomas_: what is the problem?12:05
thomas_i just do not get it working12:06
thomas_first i tried setting up through systemsettings12:06
thomas_but it says always that xorg settings do not work12:07
thomas_then i tried the ati drivers but i need a driver earlier then 8.3012:07
makdaknifethomas_: what is not working? are you trying to get a specific resolution?12:07
netsharkhi yall12:08
thomas_no i do not even get anything displayed on the monitor12:08
netsharkguys am using the compiz 3d effects12:08
netsharksometimes some programs turn into black & white12:08
netsharkhow can i return the color to these programs ?12:08
thomas_it worked on edgy together with the ati driver, but on hardy the old drivers are not supported anymore12:10
makdaknifethomas_: I don't use ATI stuff, so I'm not sure about driver status or anything... but I guess you could build modules if ATI supplies the driver on their site12:11
thomas_hm, i got some old driver from ati and tried to install it according to http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ATI-Grafikkarten/fglrx/Manuelle_Treiberinstallation12:12
thomas_but... on running the driver installer i just get: Requested package is not supported.12:13
makdaknife:-(12:15
flaccidthomas_: you can do it with the xorg free driver easily12:16
thomas_hm, ok what would i have to do?12:16
flaccidcheck xrandr -q12:16
thomas_tried that12:16
flaccidwith which driver12:16
thomas_the extrenal monitor shows up at dvi-012:17
thomas_i do not really know12:17
flaccidso there are two in there?12:17
thomas_fglrxinfo says mesa something as driver...12:17
thomas_two monitors?12:17
thomas_no its even three what i do not really understand12:18
flaccidfglrx is not the xorg free driver, thats the restricted12:18
flaccidpastebin it for me and i'll see if we can get it going with a command12:18
thomas_pastebin means?12:18
flaccid!pasetbin | thomas_12:19
ubottuFactoid pasetbin not found12:19
flaccid!pastebin12:19
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:20
thomas_ok here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13636/12:20
flacciddvi and lcd is connected in use atm?12:22
thomas_they are connected12:22
flaccidwhat do you need to change12:22
thomas_but i can only use lcd12:22
thomas_dvi does not display anything12:22
flaccidmight need a larger virtual size12:23
flaccidpastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:23
flaccidso the 2 in question are the dvi and the lcd (lvds) ?12:23
flacciddvi aint working?12:23
netsharkanyone here got expirenece with amarok please ?12:25
netsharki wanna know how to change the sorting from artist to album in iPod :/12:25
flaccidwhat side is the dvi on in relation to the lcd as well please12:26
thomas_xorg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13638/ (this is after i had to run a repair on it)12:26
thomas_on the right hand at the moment12:26
flaccidthomas_: xrandr --output LVDS --auto --output DVI --auto --right-of LVDS12:26
flaccidlet us know what that does12:26
thomas_but actually i would like to use it as only device12:26
thomas_i already tried that with xrandr but it does not show any effect12:27
dontbugmemorning ...12:27
flaccidthomas_: xrandr --output DVI 1600x120012:28
flaccidooops xrandr --output DVI --mode 1600x120012:28
thomas_ok last one comes back with: xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1920x1200 (desired size 3000x1200)12:29
flaccidok sweet12:30
flaccidlets set virtual size now12:30
flaccidone sec12:30
flaccidthomas_: what memory size is the video card?12:34
thomas_hm let me check... i think it is 32 mb12:35
flaccid!info krandrtray12:36
ubottuPackage krandrtray does not exist in hardy12:36
thomas_jep it is 32mb12:36
flaccidi think thats native nw. thomas_ you can play with krandrtray command as well12:36
flaccidthomas_: backup xorg.conf and then replace it with http://paste.ubuntu.com/13640/12:37
flaccidthen you should be able to do it. just note you don't have enough video memory to do 2 large resolutions12:37
flaccidif it doesn't like that virtual size you might have to come down to 1920 x 120012:38
thomas_do i have to restart xserver?12:39
flaccidyep12:39
dru__under which repository would i find "hydra"12:39
thomas_ok lets see...12:39
flaccid!info hydra12:39
ubottuPackage hydra does not exist in hardy12:39
dru__http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58145812:40
dru__flaccid12:40
flacciddru__: no idea sorry12:43
flaccidthere is http://freeworld.thc.org/thc-hydra/12:43
dru__yeah i found something here http://www.freshnet.org/debian/dapper/hydra/12:44
thomas_nope know i do not even get anything on lvds...12:44
flaccidcheck the log thomas_12:44
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adamoHi guys. i have a question qbout wine and sXe injected. Does sXe work on wine or did someone start it?:)12:45
flaccid!appdb | adam12:48
ubottuadam: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org12:48
flaccidah well12:48
thomas_log says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13642/12:48
flaccidthomas_: is this when you ran the xorg.conf i gave you or the old one?12:50
thomas_with the new one12:50
flaccidso you get nothing with this one?12:52
thomas_jep it flickers a couple of times and then it just displays some console style startup messages and nothing more happens12:53
flaccidconsole startup style messages?12:54
raffaciao a tutti12:54
raffahi to everyone12:55
thomas_i do not know how to describe that it is like: "bla bla [ok]"12:55
AreinuWhen I alt-tab it just changes to next application without showing any dialog or anything and it's not too good actually. How do I change it?12:56
flaccidwhat does it say?12:56
flaccidcan i suggest configuring the display in system settings now12:56
flaccidthere is no real errrs in the log. you could show the people in #xorg12:56
flaccidbut at the end it does RADEON(0): Total number of valid Screen mode(s) added: 012:57
thomas_that is what i tried and whatever i adjust... a test always says that that it will not work12:57
thomas_looks strange indeed12:57
flaccid(II) RADEON(0): Max desktop size set to 2048x120012:58
flaccid(II) RADEON(0): For a larger or smaller max desktop size, add a Virtual line to your xorg.conf12:58
flaccidi don't know why its not picking up the virtual size in the config file12:58
osh_Anyone know anything about this (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vmware-server/+bug/199050)? It's about vmware-server in hardy heron.12:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 199050 in vmware-server "vmware-server is not available in hardy" [Undecided,New]12:58
thomas_hm... i will trz in #xorg channel12:59
flaccidthomas_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13644/13:01
Dr_willisIts a bug that its not  available?13:01
flaccidi put quotes in when i shouldn't have sorry thomas_13:01
thomas_ok13:02
thomas_lets give it another try... #xorg is not really alive ;-)13:02
flaccidcool13:03
neofoxHi leute habe ein problem! habe kubuntu frisch installiert.. aber als ich die auflösung eisntellen wollte und einmal neugestartet habe habe ich nurnoch ne auflösung von 640 * 480 verwenden was mach ich falsch??13:08
osh_!de | neofox13:09
ubottuneofox: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de13:09
AreinuCan anyone here help me with the problem described here? http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1659537#post1659537 Sorry it13:09
Areinu's at link, but it's too long to describe in 1 sentence XD13:10
__sourcemakerhow can I install a  Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)13:13
__sourcemakerproblem solved.... I will install windows XP for this system...13:15
flaccid__sourcemaker: did you google13:16
flaccid!wireless | __sourcemaker13:16
ubottu__sourcemaker: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs13:16
flaccid__sourcemaker: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=broadcom+BCM4318+ubuntu&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-813:16
flaccid__sourcemaker: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73845613:17
__sourcemakerflaccid: I am really messed up... first I had an wifi with a realtec chipset... which is not supported... now I have a new one... with should be supported... but i does not work... 4 days without success.... 2 minutes in windows XP :-)13:17
flaccid__sourcemaker: complain to broadcom or read the above links13:18
__sourcemakerflaccid: wlan on linux is always hacking... and not really productive...13:19
flaccid__sourcemaker: these two in particular: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4318_[AirForce_One_54g] and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4318_[AirForce_One_54g]_(Native_Driver)13:19
flaccid__sourcemaker: not when you choose a well supported chipset.13:19
flaccidthey work out of the box which is less than windows xp usually13:19
Dr_willisGiven the 'hacking' ive had to do on windows befor.....13:20
Dr_willismy  BCM4318 worked with that fw cutter package to get the right firmware. - theres a newer driver for it under hardy, then  the older releases.13:20
Dr_willis!find bcm13:21
ubottuFound: libcman-dev, libcman2, abcm2ps, abcmidi, abcmidi-yaps (and 20 others)13:21
Dr_willis!find bcm4313:21
ubottuFound: bcm43xx-fwcutter13:21
__sourcemakerDr_willis: so... install the fwcutter and everthink should work well?13:21
Dr_willisthats not the right package..  thats the old one.. Heh.. what is the new name13:21
Dr_willisit did for me. Your Mileage may vary. dependng on the exact chipset.13:21
Dr_willis!find b4313:21
ubottuFound: b43-fwcutter13:21
Dr_willisThats the one.. b43-fwcutter13:21
__sourcemakerDr_willis: ok... last change for linux... I will try this...13:22
flaccid__sourcemaker: you should be able to enable that one via hardware drivers/restricted manager13:22
flaccidunless you run into this but there is a workaround: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/b43-fwcutter/+bug/20256713:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 202567 in b43-fwcutter "restricted manager in hardy fails to install correct firmware b43-fwcutter - solution" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:23
Dr_willistheres more to life then 'wireless'13:23
Dr_willisI would say last chance for BROADCOM...13:23
mah_hi cant brows with my konqueror how to solve this pls help13:24
thomas_flaccid at least now there are some errors :-)13:24
thomas_http://paste.ubuntu.com/13649/13:24
flaccidthomas_: thats weird. at an EndSection to the end of the file on a new line13:25
flaccidthen run it again13:25
flaccidor remove it13:25
marius__:)13:28
flaccidbrb13:30
larsivihow do I make kdm the default login manager again? after trying kde4 and uninstalling it, there is now _no_ default13:31
Picilarsivi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm13:33
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mah__hi cant brows with my konqueror how to solve this pls help13:35
larsiviPici: thanks!13:35
Dr_willismah__,  Ive seen others with that problem. I imagine its mentioned at the Kubuntu forums. But you will need to install some OTHEr browser to get to them. 'sudo apt-get install firefox' and  perhaps see if firefox works.13:36
Dr_willismah__ i think thers some issue with the knetwork manager stuff. But no idea on a fix.13:36
mah__DR-willis thank u13:37
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doktoreashello everybody13:52
doktoreasafter editing /etc/environment how can I commit my changeS?13:52
Dr_williswell the changes are done.. Not sure what service to restart. gues sit depenss on what you hcanged13:56
Dragonathmaybe restart x server? I don't really know13:58
Dr_willisI dont even know what /etc/enviroment is. :) or does13:59
venikCan anyone help with USB connections?  THey seem flaky-- when I reboot, my USB mouse and keyboard are not seen by Kubuntu 8.04 (KDE4)13:59
Dr_willisive never needed to mess with it.13:59
dontbugmeme either13:59
ahmedi want to ask when i make hibernate it should turn off the power completely am i right??? couse it didnt happen to me the power keep on what wrong with this14:00
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venikAlso, why does kubuntu 8.04 fails ot remember to use Dolphin for opening a folder with a desktop icon?14:01
Dr_willisI always disable dolphin. :)14:06
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fainko staa14:18
mah_can i install "kde4" under my kubu 7.1014:22
Dr_willisI belive so mah_14:23
Dr_willisbut KDE4 is not worth messign with  for  Most people.14:23
Dr_willisIts very lacking in features14:23
Makuseruhi, im having a problem with playback in Ardour, when i record it shows the "waveform" (i think thats what it is) and everything, so i know its actually recoding it, but it looks weird, http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9007/snapshot37cu7.png like that, and when i try to play it back i get no sound, even if i export it and try to play in something else. whats wrong here, and why does the "waveform" look like that? the grey and red14:23
* CubaCola is away: Parti pour l'instant.14:24
mah_will i use "apt-get"14:24
Dr_willisYes.. thats how its done mah_  but kde4 is still very much a work in progreess.. if you want to test it out _ i suggest trying some kde4 live cd.14:25
nosrednaekimMakuseru: you might want to ask in #ubuntu-studio14:25
mah_its hard to get live cd in my country14:26
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ahmedi want to ask when i make hibernate it should turn off the power completely am i right??? couse it didnt happen to me the power keep on what wrong with this14:30
airmykde下怎么改root密码?14:30
Dr_willisTheres the suspend to ram, and suspend to disk.. i dont rember which one is 'hibernate'14:31
nosrednaekimdisk...14:31
Dr_willisI dont use either one. :) all that hibernate stuff has always been flakey for me.14:31
ahmedit should cut off the power "that was in windows" but here the power keeps on as i make standby14:33
moleculei can split the atom of a molecule14:34
ahmedhibernate it should take every thing running in image file to disk and shut down when u back on it load all these stuff as it was before u shutdown14:34
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frybyeahmed: hibernate does not usually actually power-off the pc does it?14:35
ahmedfrybye: no it keeps power on for me14:36
frybyeahmed: I would assume it just minimizes power usw...14:36
giacomo!it14:36
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!14:36
frybyeso whats the problem.. under vista the power lamp on my pc blinks when it is asleep... (and sometimes it even wakes up again properly!  <grinn.>14:37
ahmedfrybye: i think minimise the power is standby when i use windose hipernate cut off the power and standby miimise the power14:37
frybyeahmed:  - must admit you seem to know more than me...14:38
ahmedfrybye: ofcourse no maybe im wrong14:38
frybyeI never was so shure what (if any the difference in the two was suppose to be...) I nearly always shut down the pc when leaving for more than 30 mins or so - because the standbuy/hibernate or whatever tends not to wake up properly..14:39
frybyestill with a bit of luck I can use hardy a lot when my new pc is here in a week...14:39
ahmedok nevermind thanks fr your trying to help14:40
frybyeahmed:  I think a logical explanation would be - standby - writes open apps and so on to the ram - and hibernate to the hard disk.. still has to be a bit of power on the cpu etc to start the thing again on wake up or..?14:40
frybyeahmed:  afwahn...14:41
llutzfrybye: you can cut power completely when suspended to disk14:41
ahmedfrybye: thanks man r u arabic??14:42
frybyellutz - but how does the pc know to not do a normal boot when restarting??14:42
ahmedllutz: how to suspend??14:42
frybyeahmed: la - Inglizi....14:42
ahmedfrybye: hahaaahaa i dont think so14:42
llutzfrybye: the os has to look for a hibernation file/partition14:42
frybyeas a 17yo then sent me to play "Crusader" - still - have to earn the mil. disability some how...14:43
llutzfrybye: former you used a grub option like "resume=/dev/sdXY" to tell the kernel where to look for14:43
frybyellutz - and it does that normally when it boots - and on finding none does a regular start up or...? (one learns every day...heheh)14:43
llutzfrybye: that's how it should work14:44
frybyei c14:44
frybyeon the other hand if 150 dollar - vista dosent do it right - how the heck should linux hehehe14:45
llutzsuspend with linux ... still crap in most cases14:45
frybyeat least here in DE we can buy a legal system builder vista h.p. for about that price.. some sane-minded german high-court judge ruled that not letting everybody buy s-builder soft was "discrimination!" good eh?14:46
SmegzorI am just trying out KDE 3.5 having used Gnome for 6 months and I've found a WTF.  I added the system menu to my panel and if I click on home folder, it launches filelight.  WTF?  I don't want filelight, I want a file browser.  Where do I kick the system menu so that it launches a real file browser instead of that slow rubbish?14:46
ahmedi'll make it shutdown and keep myself in safeside14:46
frybyeahmed:  that is what I (and the rest of the universe I suspect..?) has been doing the last 25 years heheheh14:47
Smegzorhmm..  actually I'll fix it be uninstalling filelight.14:47
Dr_willisfilelight? Hmm..14:47
nosrednaekimthat would be a default application issue14:48
ahmedfrybye: when linux will be free of proplems??14:48
frybyeahmed:  you get a **perfect** version of linux the day you get your 27 virgins - right!?14:48
Smegzorthats better.  now it opens nautilus14:49
frybye- but I admit this is a wee bit o.topic... heheh14:49
ahmedfrybye: say it again in arabic i didnt get what u want to say14:49
frybyemafisch - wa anna takalem schwei schwie arabie.. and this is an english tech channel...14:50
afeijohi all14:50
afeijoits possible to use 2 network cards, with 2 links, balancing?14:50
* Dr_willis wonders when computers will be free of problems.14:51
frybyeahmed:  you asked when do we get a linux free of problems.. and I answered you get a -perfect- version of linux along with the 27 virgins in paradise.. ok?14:51
makdaknifeafeijo: yes14:51
Dr_willisWhen we get rid of all the users? :)14:51
Pici!offtopic14:51
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!14:51
frybyeok Pici... mia culpa14:51
afeijomakaveli: its hard to do it?14:51
makdaknifeafeijo: no... have a look at http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/37714:52
makdaknifeafeijo: or google for routing multiple uplinks14:52
makdaknifeafeijo: it can get messy, but it works... I've used it myself a number of times now14:53
afeijonice! I will search for it, thanks m814:53
SmegzorI have one other strange problem.  I use an app called webuilder (kwebuilder) to rotate my wallpaper.  On Gnome it works fine, but in kde it always sets my desktop background preferences to default settings.  I want the wallpaper scaled, but it forgets that setting.  I'm assuming its a problem in kwebuilder.14:53
makdaknifeafeijo: no problem... hope it works out14:53
afeijomakaveli: I have cable 8mb at home, my phone cia. offer me 500k thru adsl for free, so I accepted heheh14:54
afeijomakaveli: sometimes the cable get instable, so I hope my kubuntu can manage to use the other link14:54
ahmedfrybye: im not reg14:54
SmegzorI spent the day away from Gnome to give KDE another chance.  I'm suffering the DTs (Desktop Tension).14:55
frybyeafeijo: if you have an adsl.modem complete with router function on the adsl should work out of the box I guess...14:55
flaccid!ppp14:56
ubottuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up14:56
flaccid!adsl14:56
ubottuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE14:56
afeijofrybye: I have a dlink wifi router, but with only one cable slot that I plug on my cable, and other 4 to intranet14:57
frybyeafeijo: here in Germany at least when you sign up for adsl you nearly always get a small free router in the deal - with a router the thing is easy...14:59
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makdaknifeafeijo: I don't see your responses because you're tabbing to reply to the wrong handle15:00
frybyeI have only set up pppoe under suse and that was bit of a struggel...15:00
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afeijowrong handle??15:00
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frybyeafeijo:  wrong nick....15:00
makdaknifeyou keep replying to makaveli not makdaknife15:00
afeijoooooops, haha15:00
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afeijosorry15:01
afeijomakdaknife: I didnt notice15:01
frybyeafeijo:  just type makd and then tab...15:01
afeijoyeah15:01
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makdaknifeafeijo: routing through multiple uplinks works okay... its impossible to detect a failed link though without writing a customized script... coz your links to your router will always be up15:01
frybyeafeijo:  you see what I said.. with a 30 dollar router the whole thing is a lot easiert - especially if you wanna connect 2 - 3 pcs at some stage...15:01
Rollo`howdy all15:01
makdaknifeafeijo: so if the connection on your router goes down, some addresses resolve while others don't15:02
afeijofrybye: I have dlink 624, with wifi and router for 4 ports15:02
afeijoI will try with that router, if not, I will search a good device for that15:02
frybyeafeijo: so if you run the hardy to the adsl via that should be no prob at all or...15:03
frybyeI asume the 524 has an adsl modem in it or...?15:03
Rollo`Can anyone tell me if it is possible to be connected to a wireless AP without being loged in first?15:03
nosrednaekimRollo`: yeah.... you could run a script to connect in rc.local15:04
afeijo624  has no modem, just router and wifi15:04
frybyeafeijo: the coolest adsl-modem+routers here on the German market are the fritz.box series.. not cheap though - most folks here get them free with the adsl contract..15:04
flaccidyou can configure it in /etc/network/interfaces15:04
Rollo`nosrednaekim: ive been searching the internet but can't seem to find anything on it. im very new to linux and only been using it for a few days15:05
frybyego check www.avm.de15:05
geniiRollo`: If the AP has no authentication like wep or wap. Also no login prompt will appear if the AP has auth but the network manager has saved the names/passwords in a file to use15:05
afeijofrybye: I live in Brazil, the import fee is off the charts15:05
afeijoimportation tax15:05
frybyeafeijo: but they will sell them locally I guess.. are you saying that dlink is manuf in Brazil???15:06
Rollo`i have managed to get it so auto connect to the AP by using /etc/network/interfaces - however i must log in first for it to do so15:06
nosrednaekimRollo`: and why don't yoiu want to have to log in?15:06
afeijofrybye: I'm not sure, but dlink is easy to find here, not so expensive. that you mention I never heard before15:07
Rollo`nosrednaekim: i have it set up to share files with my housemate who is using a mac, i want it so she can just turn the computer on and have access to files15:08
nosrednaekimah.. I see15:08
Rollo`she is even more n00b than I15:08
nosrednaekimRollo`: you COULD have it autologin...15:08
nosrednaekimand then lock your screen.15:09
Rollo`nosrednaekim: that could work.15:09
Rollo`easy enough to do?15:10
nosrednaekimRollo`: that would be in systemsettings->advanced->loginmanager15:10
nosrednaekimyeah... its simple15:10
nosrednaekimthen... ->convenience15:10
Rollo`oh yeah15:11
frybyeafeijo:  see pm pse..15:11
Rollo`thats simple15:11
Rollo`cheers :P15:12
nosrednaekimRollo`: don't enable "persistent" though15:13
Rollo`what does the persistent option do?15:14
nosrednaekimevery time you log out... it will log you right back in15:14
nosrednaekimmaking it impossible to switch users15:14
Rollo`oh15:14
Rollo`good thing i didnt do that, it would have kept me busy for hours trying to work out what was going on15:14
Rollo`thanks for your help, im going to go try it out15:17
Rollo`:D15:17
nosrednaekimok15:18
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Aw0Lwhat's the name of the batter monitor app that comes with kubuntu?15:31
estanhello folks. the first thing i usually do when i have a new KDE is set my Desktop path to point to my home directory.15:31
estannow i just installed hardy, and when i set my Desktop to point to /home/astan in kcontrol.. what i get is my root (/) shown on my desktop (!).15:32
estanhas this happened to anyone else? known bug?15:32
estanhttp://dose.se/desktop-setting.png <-- this shows the problem.15:34
estancan i hack around this in some config file?15:36
_juananyone here using kde4?15:37
genii_juan: I'm certain many of the people in the #kubuntu-kde4 channel are :)15:38
_juanthanx15:38
estanhrm. i can't find the setting in ~/.kde, anyone know where the path to the desktop is set?15:39
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syffddfdf15:56
syf= =!15:56
geniiestan: It's set in the file /usr/share/apps/kdesktop/directory.desktop     under entry of Name=Desktop15:57
geniisyf: What is the nature of your Kubuntu emergency please?15:57
estangenii: thanks!15:58
geniiestan: You're welcom15:58
genii*welcome15:58
Aw0Lso, no one knows the name of that kde battery app for laptops that comes with kubuntu?16:02
geniiestan: By the way you need to point it to /home/astan/Desktop16:02
Aw0Lthe default I mean16:03
geniiPower Manager16:04
estangenii: but that's exactly what i don't want. i want my desktop to be my home directory.16:05
estanit's usually the first thing i set whenever i've installed KDE. but this time it didn't work.16:05
chalcedonyis there anyplace i should look for help with open office on hardy? i upgraded and oo won't open16:05
estanfor some reason if i set the path to /home/astan (my home directory), it shows my root (/) on the desktop instead.16:06
jussi01Aw0L: guidance-power-manager16:06
geniiestan: Since kde (X) runs with admin privelege, it's home is /16:07
Aw0Ljussi01, thanks - I thought it was a kde app?16:07
estangenii: yes, but i'm not setting it to ~ or anything, i'm explicitly setting it to /home/astan, and it still thinks that it should use /, how come?16:07
estani've never had this problem until today when i installed hardy on my laptop.16:07
estananyway, i just realized, maybe i should get used to having my deskopt point to /home/astan/Skrivbord (Skrivbord == Desktop in swedish), like everyone else ;)16:09
estan*desktop.16:09
geniiestan: Because kde tries to write things like the .kde directory in one level above the Desktop directory, if you tell it to make /home/name the base, it will try to write .kde in /home where it has no privelege. Not finding anything there it reverts to root behaviour and shows /16:14
erichI have a  Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 wifi... but it does not work... fwcutter is also installed16:14
estangenii: why on earth would they introduce such behavior? i can't believe the location of ~/.kde would be determined using your desktop path?!16:15
geniiEven if it was made writable there for it, every user you set up in this way would overwrite the previous users settings16:15
erichthe interface is detected... but i can not establish a connection... (my wlan router is also detected)16:15
geniiestan: It's designed in this way to compartmentalize each instance that will be run.16:16
geniiestan: Since you are not supposed to recurse from your own directory normal operation of this results in specific settings for each user in their home directory, one directory level above the Desktop directory16:16
estangenii: i believe you are mistaken. the location of e.g. ~/.kde has never been affected by the desktop path for me before.16:17
chalcedonyError loading BASIC of document file :///usr/lib/openoffice/share/basic/WebWizard/script.xlb/: General Error. General input//output error.16:17
estani have the desktop path set up to my home directory on my desktop machine and another laptop at home, and there's no problem, it uses ~/.kde none the less.16:17
geniiestan: When you are setting Desktop direstory in Kcontrol, it is automatically assumed the Desktop directory is a subdirectory of your home directoty16:17
geniibah typos16:18
estanwell something happened in edgy->hardy, as i have desktop path == home directory working fine on two machines running edgy at home. it just wouldn't work when i installed hardy on this one.16:19
estanif you are not allowed to set a desktop path to anything outside your home dir, or setting it _to_ you home dir.. then the dialog shouldn't allow it. since when i set it to /home/astan, what appeared on my desktop was my root dir, which was very confusing.16:20
dru__!xhydra16:21
ubottuFactoid xhydra not found16:21
dru__!hydra16:21
ubottuFactoid hydra not found16:21
Hamrahi, is there any plan of putting firefox 3 RC in the repos?16:21
Pici!ff3rc | Hamra16:21
ubottuHamra: The Firefox 3 RC package is not currently available as most of the Ubuntu-mozilla team are at the Ubuntu Developer Summit. Thanks for your patience.16:21
estanand if it's by design that i can't set my desktop path to what i want (including setting it to my own home dir). then i must say i disagree with the design :/16:21
PiciHamra: eventually16:21
Hamrathnx16:22
estananyway, thanks for clearing this up genii :) eventhough i'm still confused as setting my desktop path to my home dir has always been the first thing i've done when configuring my KDE, ever since 2.x i think.16:22
geniiestan: np16:22
wesley__will kubuntu release beta of kde 4.1?16:24
geartreki have a question16:26
geartrekdont know if anybody can help, it's with Ubuntu OS16:26
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geniiestan: Perhaps take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/17453216:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 174532 in kubuntu-default-settings "Desktop displays root directory (/) after upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy" [Medium,Confirmed]16:26
geartrekhow do you find out your root password16:27
genii!root16:27
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo16:27
geartreki'm trying to install Parallels16:27
geartrekLOL16:28
geartrekhmm i'll try that16:28
estangenii: ah bingo. though i seem to have triggered it in a slightly different way. thanks.16:30
frybyedarweth:  a speciallty beer here in a smart store will be about 3 also i guess.. just the run of the mill stuff in the discount store is about 70 cents...16:31
frybyegeartrek:  just dont try and do a tri-boot with xp-vist-hardy.. that is a killer beleive me...16:32
frybyegeartrek: I am just dying to get our new pc next week to install hardy properly as an result...16:32
frybyegeartrek: ie 2nd pc dedicated to kubuntu...16:32
frybyewesley__:  I read that there is an alpha of kde 4.1 now!?16:34
frybyewesley__: so it sorta seems logical that there might be a beta at some stage...16:34
p_quarlesfrybye, there is, but it's not very useful -- there's a SUSE live disk with 4.1 on it if you want to see for yourself16:34
geartrekhmnm16:35
geartrekgrrr16:35
frybyethat is an alpha of 4.1 with suse or...?16:35
wesley__frybye i mean packages for kubuntu16:36
frybyeanother question - the alternative cd for kubuntu with the earlier kde 4 - that is also a live cd or...?16:37
frybyeif so I might give that a whizz to keep me occupied while waiting for the new pc.. heheh16:37
geartrekhmm im going to try something16:38
p_quarlesfrybye, yes, the SUSE disk I mentioned has 4.1 alpha16:39
frybyep_quarles: I wanna stick with kubuntu for now - they have an earlier 4.. i hope it does live sessions also...16:40
frybyeI wil lgo check...16:40
p_quarlesfrybye, the last Ubuntu KDE4 disk I know of was pre-4.016:40
frybyesee you floks - I am off to do a bit of d-loading and stuff.. bye now...16:41
frybyewill have a look - thanks for the info... bye...16:41
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willhello i need help16:54
willhow do i get su java on ubuntu16:55
willsun*16:55
willhow do i get su java on ubuntu?16:56
willhow do i get su java on ubuntu16:57
algyzinstall it ;)16:57
deejaypipcan anybody help me install and set up hjsplit?16:57
algyzwhich version of ubuntu?16:57
deejaypipMe? Hardy Heron16:58
will8.04 lts16:58
algyzwill:  $ sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre16:58
algyzor openjre16:58
Jucatoalgyz: is that sun's?16:58
algyznot sure :)16:58
willcommand not foud16:59
Schorfino, sun's is sun-java6-jre16:59
algyzI think it's sun's16:59
algyzit's opensource java ;)17:00
Jucatowell, openjdk is sun's...but more geared towards development (hence the "jdk" part)17:00
Piciwill: Are you looking for the the plugin or the runtime environment?17:00
geniiwill: You don't need the $17:00
algyzwill:  http://openjdk.java.net/install/#ubuntu17:00
willsook it wrks thank you17:00
deejaypipHello, does anybody know how to install and set up hjsplit?17:01
algyzdeejaypip:  why do you need it?17:02
deejaypipto join together movie files17:02
algyzyou can do it with other software, not the one for windows :D17:02
deejaypipooh. okay. what's a good software program, then?17:03
deejaypipand, yeah, I did just switch from windows to ubuntu17:03
algyzjust a moment17:03
erichahhhhhhhh... is there somebody how is using a Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) working?????17:04
algyzdeejaypip:  gfslicer17:04
deejaypipthanks17:04
algyzdeejaypip:  also mpgtx17:04
deejaypipokay17:04
erichfucking wlan... how can I install?... all docs i found in forums di not work!17:06
algyzdeejaypip:  even krusader can do the job, it's powerful file manager, try it17:07
deejaypipalright, thanks algyz17:07
erich!ndiswrapper17:08
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs17:08
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Makuseru!mount17:14
ubottuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter17:14
Makuseru!iso17:14
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.17:14
jeroen-well that is strange17:15
jeroen-I change the resolution in systemsettings from 1280x1024 to 1024x768 and after rebooting I have 640x48017:16
jeroen-I only can change it to 800x60017:16
nosrednaekimyou have an nvidia?17:16
jeroen-nosrednaekim: eh let me see17:16
deejaypipalgyz: krusader worked. private message is not working. but thank you.17:17
jeroen-nosrednaekim: how do I see that from the commandline17:17
nosrednaekimjeroen-: "lspci | grep nvidia"17:17
nosrednaekimerr.... grep -i nvidia17:17
jeroen-bo17:17
jeroen-noi17:17
jeroen-no nvidea17:18
nosrednaekimok17:18
jeroen-nosrednaekim: I see a ATI17:18
jeroen-Radeon RV200 QW17:19
Fyl0n!NVIDIA17:19
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto17:19
Makuseruhow can i convert a .bin to a .iso, or just mount a .bin file?17:20
jeroen-well, isnt strange that it worked the first time and after changing it to a lower resolution, the card dont wants to start anymore?17:20
ebladequestion. what is the install time for the live-dvd iso? i've got an old lappy w/ 700mhz p3 256mb ram and x4 dvd drive.17:21
geniieblade: hd formatting time aside, about 40 minutes17:23
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ebladealso, will it recongized my D-Link WNA-1330? (its atheros based)17:27
geniieblade: Offhand I don't know. You could always google for the model and Ubuntu17:35
jeroen-So I have here a fresh installed Kubunu Hardy PC with a Radeon 7500 and setting it to a resolution of 1024x768 works the first time, but after restarting it X it locks on 640x480. does anyone has any idea what this can be?17:36
jeroen-btw: this only concerns when changing it as a root user, but when changing it to  1024x768 as a user; it works normal17:38
YumiReuh17:49
ugare-s17:50
cleatonhello, can anyone recomend me a good kde4 irc client?17:51
nosrednaekimcleaton: konversation (the kde3 version) or quassel17:51
nosrednaekimwhich is qt4, not kde4... but it looks the same17:51
cleatonwell qt 4 was what i meant17:52
PennycookKDE3 apps /don't/ look the same under KDE4.  But Konversation is the best one I know of.17:54
ugacleaton: if you want a kde4 feeling one, the only option you have is kopete, I believe17:56
ugacleaton: or konsole =)17:56
Yumijavais oublié que cetait aussi chiant pour avoir du son linux ;(17:57
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cleatonuga: i looked in kopete but didn't find irc support, and konsole is what i am using now but i rather like a real gui irc client17:59
cleatonhave*17:59
Jucatowhat's keeping you from using Konversation?17:59
cleatonisn't it old qt?17:59
JucatoQt 3. and?17:59
cleatonwell i dislike qt 318:00
Jucatohmm?18:00
cleatoni try to stay away from it as much as i can18:00
cleatongetting a nice kde 4 theme for gnome would look better then having qt 3 apps running in kde 418:01
Jucatoso I guess you dislike KDE 3 as well?18:01
cleatonyes18:01
Jucatoweird... but anyway...18:01
kubuntui think KDE 3 looks better than KDE 418:02
Jucatothere's a gtk-qt4-engine that themes gtk apps with qt4 styles (like Oxygen)18:02
cleatonyeah i've been using that, but it's kinda buggy18:02
cleatonwell the overall layout in kde 3 and kde 3 apps was messy18:03
ugacleaton: it seems you are right. I can't find irc anymore on the kde4 version of kopete18:04
cleatonbut they are going to make upgrades to kopete in kde 4.118:04
cleatonand i guess they will upgrade konversation too18:04
Pennycookcleaton: It just occured to me that Pidgin has IRC support.  I'm not sure how good it is at it, but since it is GTK you can skin it to look like KDE4.18:04
Daisuke-LaptopJucato: there's also something that does the opposite (for people using kde apps in gnome)18:05
jeroen-is there a way to enable multiverse and universe from the command line, but without editing the sources.list file?18:05
JucatoDaisuke-Laptop: yeah. only for Qt 4 thouh18:05
Daisuke-Laptopbut it's for qt 4.4, something we aren't likely to see until intrepid18:05
JucatoDaisuke-Laptop: 4.4 is already in backports afaik18:05
cleatonPennycook: i've been using it and it's bad :P18:05
cleatonPennycook: if i have to use gtk i might aswell use xchat18:05
PennycookI was just going to say... XD18:06
Jucatooh, and still no IRC for Kopete in 4.118:06
PennycookI think if you're insistent on avoiding KDE3, XChat is probably the way to go until Konversation is ported to KDE4.18:06
shane_hello does anyone know a good site similar to limewire thatl runn with kubuntu18:07
Jucato!frostwire18:07
ubottufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire18:07
shane_TY18:07
Daisuke-Laptopxchat is certainly more powerful than pidgin's irc component, and definitely more powerful than konversation will ever be18:07
jeroen-oh sorry I see multiverse en universe are already enabled18:07
cleatonquassel actually seem to be great18:08
cleatoni'll give it a try18:08
cleatonthanks for the help everyone18:09
shane_can i run sudo apt-get to get frostwire ?18:09
cleatonshane_: sudo apt-cache search frostwire18:09
cleatonshane_:  to check foryourself18:09
cleatonand if you find it, then just use sudo apt-get install18:10
ugaDaisuke-Laptop: what's the extra power in xchat?18:10
kubuntuhow can i find the german kubuntu channel?18:10
llutz!de18:10
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de18:10
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geniishane_: Not normally, since it's not in standard repositories. Get the deb file from their site and install it with sudo dpkg -i packagename18:10
kubuntuthx18:11
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ugaDaisuke-Laptop: I think last time I heard that, it was from a guy that had last been using konversation 0.000001 pre-alpha ;)18:11
llutz kubuntu  type:     /j #kubuntu-de18:11
kubuntuthx a lot18:11
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geniishane_: The url is http://www.frostwire.com/?id=thanks&dwnlink=http://hermes.frostwire.com/frostwire/4.13.5/frostwire-4.13.5.i586.deb&from=18:11
shane_oh ok so when i get a program offline i can run sudo dpkg -i packagename to install18:11
cleatonshane_: yes18:12
ugashane_: yes, good boy! get a sweet18:12
shane_perfect TY once again18:12
* uga likes good students18:12
cleaton:P18:12
cleatontrial and error is still the best way :P18:12
ugacleaton: noooooo18:13
cleatonhehe i remember when i first decided to use linux18:13
ugacleaton: my first try mounting a superdisk external lpt drive unfortunately ended up in deleting the whole / partition18:13
shane_lol iv been tryin to pick this stuff up and fortunatly iv been logging all the comands uv been giving with a descrip of what they do and are for,i do TY's18:13
ugacleaton: so it's noooooot good idea to try and error ;)18:13
cleatoni was going to install debian, but i failed to know i was suposed to hit space to mark "desktop", so instead i got a clean commandline system i had to configure myself18:14
ugathat was what... RH4? 3?18:14
Pennycookuga: I think it depends on how people learn.  I know that for me, following tutorials wasn't really that helpful.  Breaking things and working out how to fix them has taught me a lot more about how Linux works.18:14
cleatondpkg -i and dpkg-reconfigure was one of the first things i had to learn :P18:15
ugathe command almost nobody learns is /quit though18:15
ugaonce they get in, nobody ever goes out18:15
cleatonthen i had to compile a driver for my graphicscard, wich i don't even remember how to do anymore as it's not needed often anymore :P18:15
shane_while im on here my son wants to know if there is a way to run a microcrap style game in kubuntu as ive now removed all xp off our home systems18:16
nosrednaekimwine.... or if there aren't many graphics to it... virtualbox18:16
geniishane_: wine will run quite a lot of things with varying success18:16
shane_nosrednaekim: wine will work for that style of games18:17
cleatonshane_: you could also recomend him some free linux games18:17
shane_ok and i can find wine in the kubuntu files18:17
cleatonsudo apt-get install wine18:17
erichhow can I setup a broadcom wifi?18:17
shane_weve looked at the games that are in the add remove but havent found many that he likes most are bad graphics and look like atari he says18:18
cleatonshane_: how old is he?18:18
geniishane_: Also this site has some good native linux ones: http://whdb.com/2008/top-25-linux-games-for-2008/18:18
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shane_cleaton: he is 1318:19
cleatonshane_: ok, the link genii sugested is good18:19
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shane_genii:   ok TY18:20
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cleatonwow, i have to say thanks again for the quassel tip, this is exactly what i've been looking for =)18:22
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freek_ 18:27
shoooodi wanna make the resolution of my screen a lil bit smaller18:30
shoooodam using ubuntu 818:31
shooood#ubuntu18:32
shane_ok i tried the dpkg and it states there is no such file or derectory the package opened in kate18:36
geniishane_: Specify to save the file, instead of opening it in some application. Save it to /home/yourname                 Then open Konsole and do: cd ~/         then: sudo dpkg -i thefilename.deb18:42
shane_its opens automaticly in kate and states that if i save the file will be corrupt18:43
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slimsimhey there18:43
slimsimsomeone there?18:44
geniishane_: When you download it from the internet, it will not normally just open it automatically in some text editor or so. Usually it will prompt you for saving or for what application to use to open it18:44
slimsimhehe, obviously there's someone there :D18:44
shane_genii: i wish that was the case but it seems to just open in kate automaticly and then shoots the messageis a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file.18:46
slimsimi've got a small question: i've got a external harddrive which i must be able to use under linux, windows and OSX. what filesystem do i use?18:46
slimsimbtw: it's no problem if there's some work to do for the windows machine, but it should work out-of-the box with the mac machine!18:47
geniishane_: To make sure this behaviour happens for Firefox, go to Edit...PReferences...Applications. Find   Content Type of "Software Package" choose the action of "Always Ask"18:48
geniislimslim: All 3 will see vfat out of box but if using >4Gb files (eg: DVD isos or such) then ext2 is better choce18:50
genii*choice18:50
geniiBah another ask-and-run18:51
shane_genii: when i get to aplications the list is bare i tryed to search .deb and it opened kate because thats a .deb pkg lol18:53
flashmasterspricht jemand deutsch und kann mir helfen? ;)18:58
PhilRod!de18:58
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alexbobpI have alsa installed, but I still can't play audio from multiple programs at once, and any time flash gets ahold of my audio hardware I can't play audio until I reboot.  How do I make sure my sound servers are running properly?19:08
cleatonalexbobp: it works properly, it just dosen't suport flash yet19:10
cleatonalexbobp: there is a libflashsuport you can install tough19:10
cleatonalexbobp: it worked for me19:10
alexbobpcleaton: I also can't use sound from Amarok and VLC at the same time.19:11
alexbobpbut if I stop one, the other works.19:11
tsbhva is the name of the update app again? which sitts as an applet on the taskbar?19:11
cleatonoh alsa19:11
cleatonsorry19:11
cleatoni was in the wrong channel, thought i was in ubuntu and it was a pulse question19:11
geniishane_: I got sidetracked trying to figure out why your firefox is forcing kate to open deb files. For the moment just to get your frostwire going I'd suggest: sudo apt-get install wget; wget http://dl.frostwire.com/frostwire/4.13.5/frostwire-4.13.5.i586.deb; sudo dpkg -i frostwire-4.13.5.i586.deb19:11
cleatonhmm, if you have alsa installed many channels should work19:12
cleatoncheck if flash is somehow using oss19:12
geniishane_: The firefox issue may have something to do with your default mimetype setup for firefox. If you pastebin the contents of file:    ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/mimeTypes.rdf      it might be possible to see if thats whats casing it19:13
alexbobpI always use wget for files more than a few megabytes.  Firefox doesn't handle broken connections or being terminated and re-run well.19:14
shane_i have pastebin installed what is that comand where it will just paste it and give me the link for yah19:15
shane_genii:  i have pastebin installed what is that comand where it will just paste it and give me the link for yah19:15
mooperhow should I install java 1.519:19
mooperthere seems to be 900 ways to do it19:19
mooperapt-get install java5-runtime seems to be the most sensible way19:19
shane_genii: i thank u for ur help i just got a call out so i must go but i will pop on here later and see if i can get this resolved TY19:20
mooper  sun-java5-jre 1.5.0-15-0ubuntu1 ??19:21
erichahhh--- 4 hours later... my wifi card is detected right... but i receive the following error message ... wlan0: authentication with AP  timed out19:24
flashmasterinstalliert : keine19:24
PhilRoderich: what steps have you tried so far?19:25
flashmastermögl pakete 3.0 b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu319:25
erichPhilRod:  http://penkin.wordpress.com/2008/03/28/ubuntu-804-broadcom-wireless/19:27
PhilRoderich: can you see the AP in "iwlist eth1 scanning"?19:28
PhilRoderr, sudo that19:28
marius__Hi to everyone19:30
erichPhilRod: yes!19:30
marius__I need help19:30
PhilRodmarius__: just ask19:30
chalcedonymarius__: don't we all ?19:31
PhilRoderich: at what stage do you get that error?19:31
marius__I can't hear anything in my kubuntuI'm a newby19:31
erich PhilRod: connecting with knetworkmanager...19:31
erythrocyteany one here knows if Knoppix has been affected by the recent openssl security hole?19:31
PhilRoderich: hrm. I'm not too familiar with knetworkmanager, but we can try running through the command line steps to connect - might help to find the problem19:32
PhilRods/find/localize/19:32
erichPhilRod: this would be great... can you tell me the commands?19:33
josef_Hi guys, i'm new to linux. i have two monitors conected to the same graphics card how do i configure it duel view19:33
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PhilRoderich: sure. Are you using WEP or WPA?19:34
erichPhilRod: for the moment I have disabled the encryption... but I will use wpa later...19:34
ScorpKing-Laptoperich: try wifi-radar. it's a lot easier to use if you have encrypted wireless connections19:35
marius__I'm new to Linux too...I can't make my kubuntu work properly...It detects my sound card but I can't hear anything...I tried on OpenSolaris and it tels me that my ATI device is misconfiguered...But the fact is that the sound works fine on the same machine...but with Vista19:36
marius__can you give me any sugestions?19:36
PhilRoderich: ok. First check is "sudo iwconfig wlan0" - that'll tell you the current state of the interface19:36
PhilRodit'll probably be "unassociated"19:36
ScorpKing-Laptopmarius__: run alsamixer in konsole and make sure the master volume is up19:36
erich!pastebin19:37
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:37
navetzcan somebody please help me with my apache LAMP server, I can not go to localhost unless I am online, I can't do work without an internet connection.19:37
TimSHow can I make one application not show up in the taskbar/kicker19:37
ScorpKing-Laptopnavetz: you using dialup?19:37
erichPhilRod: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13701/19:37
navetzScorpKing-Laptop: no a laptop19:37
navetzScorpKing-Laptop: wireless19:38
marius__Hey...I did the alsamixer thing...the master volume is fine...19:38
marius__10019:38
erichPhilRod: I will try wifi-radar--- maybe I will be disconnected now...19:38
PhilRoderich: ok,19:38
ScorpKing-Laptopnavetz: it might be that knetworkmanager tries to route through an active conncetion. close it and try again. if that doesn't work edit /etc/network/interfaces and add - address 127.0.0.1 and netmask 255.0.0.0 - for lo19:39
erythrocytehey can anyone help me out with my boot problem? kubuntu 8.04 is taking infinite time to boot. i posted debug info, etc. here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80087819:40
ScorpKing-Laptopmarius__: what does aplay -l say? pastebin it if it's more that one line. see !paste19:41
navetzScorpKing-Laptop: my interfaces looks like that19:42
ScorpKing-Laptopnavetz: have you tried it with networkmanager closed?19:42
navetzScorpKing-Laptop: nope, ill give it a shot, my internet will probably go down so brb19:42
tsbI opened a file yesterday externally using kdpf; the file is now gone, any chance of finding it in some cache file somewhere?19:42
marius__card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC861VD Analog [ALC861VD Analog]19:43
marius__  Subdevices: 0/119:43
marius__  Subdevice #0: subdevice #019:43
ScorpKing-Laptopnavetz: also if you run /etc/init.d/apache2 restart it might show 127.0.1.1 for sitename. if that's the case use it instead of localhost19:43
ScorpKing-Laptop!hdaintel | marius__19:43
ubottumarius__: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto19:43
ScorpKing-Laptopmarius__: read that for hda sound cards19:44
navetzScorpKing-Laptop: it does show 127.0.1.1 as the sitename19:44
marius__thanks...thanks a lot19:44
navetzScorpKing-Laptop: but I tried it and it didn't work19:44
navetzScorpKing-Laptop: I have knetworkmanager closed but I still have internet19:44
ScorpKing-Laptopnavetz: what name is assosiated with 127.0.1.1 in /etc/hosts?19:44
ScorpKing-Laptopnavetz: yes internet will still work19:45
navetz127.0.0.1 localhost19:45
navetz127.0.1.1 navetz19:45
navetzScorpKing-Laptop: my laptop name is.19:45
erich_PhilRod: does not work19:45
ScorpKing-Laptopnavetz: ok try http://navetz/ maybe?19:45
navetzok19:45
navetzScorpKing-Laptop: it works, let me test it without a connection19:46
ScorpKing-Laptopnavetz: ok19:46
navetzScorpKing-Laptop: hey that didn't work.19:47
PhilRoderich_: ok, try "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid YOUR_SSID"19:47
navetzScorpKing-Laptop: 127.0.1.1 didn't work either19:47
marius__<ScorpKing-Laptop>thanks man...hehe...actually the page gives information that goes way beyond my knowledge...if I do that ...I actually might breake something...I really don't know how to operate in BIOS19:48
erich_PhilRod: no error19:48
ScorpKing-Laptopnavetz: hmm.. the only other option i can think of is to configure a virtual network interface manually so it's always up. like eth0:1 for egsample19:48
navetzScorpKing-Laptop: is there a way I can tell apache to point back to 127.0.0.1 ?19:49
PhilRoderich_: then "sudo dhclient wlan0" (assuming you have a dhcp server on your AP)19:49
ScorpKing-Laptopmarius__: you're welcome. hda cards is alway fun to get working. read throught that whole page if you get any errors. all the info you need is on there19:49
ScorpKing-Laptopnavetz: yes. in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default19:50
navetzScorpKing-Laptop: in knetworkmanager, it under domain name system it has my hostname as navetz, could that be a problem19:50
erich_PhilRod: No DHCPOFFERS received. but dhcp is configured right19:51
ScorpKing-Laptopnavetz: i'm not sure. knetworkmanager always give me problems so i never use it. maybe someone else knows.19:51
AreinuCan anyone here help me with the problem described here? http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1659537#post1659537 It's kinda too hard to describe in 1 sentence XD19:52
navetzScorpKing-Laptop: my error log gives me this: [Wed May 21 14:47:48 2008] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist: /var/www/favicon.ico19:52
navetzScorpKing-Laptop: alright, thanks for the help19:53
ScorpKing-Laptopnavetz: you can ignore that. if you look in 000-default you'll see a option for icon paths if you want to fix that.19:53
trappistnavetz: that's an extremely normal error - browsers request favicon.ico in your webroot, so if it's not there you'll get file not found in your logs19:53
ScorpKing-Laptopnavetz: you're welcome19:53
navetztrappist: oh, alright, thanks.19:53
PhilRoderich_: hrm, does "iwconfig wlan0" say the same now as before? (modulo the essid should now be set)19:54
erich__PhilRod: on my latop (WindowsXP)... wlan is also working with hdcp19:55
PhilRoderich__: ok, that's a useful data point19:56
erich__PhilRod: I will throw the pc out of my windows... 4 days without success... XXXX...19:56
PhilRoderich__: oh, and in case you missed it: "[19:54] <PhilRod> erich_: hrm, does "iwconfig wlan0" say the same now as before? (modulo the essid should now be set)"19:57
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erich__PhilRod: yes... still the same19:58
erich__test20:00
erich__PhilRod: yes... still the same20:00
PhilRoderich__: the only other thing I can think to try would be installing the default ubuntu (gnome-based) network management gui20:01
PhilRodor try the semi-manual setup: edit /etc/network/interfaces and use "ifup -a" to try to bring the interface up20:01
erich__PhilRod: In my point of view... this will not solve the problem... because the command also did not work... right?20:02
PhilRoderich__: maybe, but sometimes you have to get the right commands in the right order, and I may have missed a necessary step20:02
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erich__PhilRod: can I try ndiswrapper? maybe there is a module kernel problem20:03
ghostlygoneHello20:03
PhilRoderich__: that might work. I've never used it myself though20:03
Tm_Thi PhilRod20:03
mooperdoes anyone know how to stop the mouse wheel from changing images in gwenview and get it to zoom instead?20:04
BluesKajmooper, click the mousewheel  to zoom20:05
fildoaway: sleep20:07
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erythrocyteanyone out there who can help me with my problem as described in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=800878 ? my message there has been up for more than a day and no one has replied yet :(20:10
BluesKajerythrocyte, 256 Ram is quite low for kde ... not sure but that could be part of your prob.20:12
TimSAdept keeps tryng to update 4 packages, but everytime I get an error that this will break something. Anyone know what the problem could be/how to fix it?20:13
erythrocyteBluesKaj: yea, the kubuntu website recommends min >300MB RAM, but it has been working fine for me up until now...so that couldn't be it right?20:13
erythrocyteBluesKaj: and my problem isn't with the responsiveness of KDE as such...it's just the boot20:14
TimSThe reppo  http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com is giving me a 404 error :o20:14
BluesKajdunno , but maybe graphical Xserver is having a difficult time with your setup loading20:14
mooperYou could try booting into init level 3 to see if its x causing probs20:15
xenoli want to ask, what is default entry for "hiddenmenu" optin of grub's menu.lst ?20:15
xenoloption&20:15
BluesKajTimS, works here20:15
moopererythrocyte: Then you could tell if you need to look at x or more basic stuff20:15
mooperinit level 3 =no X20:16
TimSOdd20:16
TimSErr http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/main libecal1.2-7 2.22.1.1-0ubuntu320:16
TimS  404 Not Found20:16
erythrocytemooper: how do i boot into level 3? i'm such a noob20:16
moopererythrocyte: uhm, hang on20:16
algyzerythrocyte:  why do you need it?20:17
moopererythrocyte: I cant remember the file20:17
algyzerythrocyte:  don't install drivers in such way :(20:17
mooperso he can boot into init level 3 to test whats causing his slow boot20:17
algyzerythrocyte:  init 3 , but don't do20:18
mooperno, that doesnt affect how it boots20:18
erythrocytealgyz: mooper suggested that i boot into init level 3 to see if X could be the problem for http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80087820:18
algyzI see20:18
algyzdidn't read above, sry :|20:18
erythrocytealgyz: well now you have it :) ...any ideas?20:19
erythrocytemooper: is my dmesg alright?20:19
erythrocytemooper: are all my logs normal?20:20
moopergod damn debian init mess20:21
erythrocytemooper: lol :D20:21
mooperwhere the hell is /etc/inittab20:22
lon3shi und hallo20:23
mooperCan anyone tell me where I set the run level on boot?20:25
moopererythrocyte: this is very annoying20:25
erythrocytemooper: oh...could this be related to some upstart thingy...i remember that as something new in hardy20:25
erythrocytemooper: i did a locate inittab20:26
erythrocytemooper: and got /usr/lib/upstart/migrate-inittab.pl20:26
moopernah, its in etc/event.d/rc-default20:26
mooperah, but you can make and /etc/inittab and that will take over20:27
erythrocytemooper: so how do i boot into init 3?20:27
mooperI dont know what they have done here so I wouldnt want to advise20:27
moopersorry20:27
* jabba sacrifices a chicken20:28
jabbaerythrocyte: does ubuntu have an /etc/inittab ?20:28
mooperjabba, you are wise to sacrafice that chicken20:28
mooperno they have done something20:28
mooper......all weird20:28
erythrocytemooper: ok...thanks anyway20:28
jabbawell it says initctl(8), that's a good place to start20:28
mooperwe shall have to sacrafice a windows certified engineer to make it work20:28
jabbaerythrocyte: gimme a sec.20:29
mooperjabba, next after you with the ceremonial knife20:29
noam_is the distribution firefox going to be replaced with 3.0 final when it is out? or are we waiting for 8.10 for that?20:29
erythrocytejabba: ok20:29
jabbaerythrocyte: /etc/event.d/rc-default20:31
mooperjabba, yeah, I got that far20:32
* jabba sacrifices a sarlacc for mooper20:32
mooperthats why I need to sacrafice the MSCE20:32
mooperto work out what it means20:32
jabbagimme another second then. miracles take time :)20:32
jabbahey20:32
jabbamooper: you not a shell ninja?20:33
jabbarc-default looks for /etc/inittab20:33
jabbaline 14 on hardy20:33
mooperI know I know, but I could be arsed to find out what /etc/inittab should look like20:33
mooperit was all getting to complicated20:33
jabbaheh, could be arsed. you europeans!20:33
jabbamooper:  i have an inittab to look at at home. hang on.20:34
mooperactually I have a shell open here with centos20:34
mooper:-D20:34
jabba# The default runlevel is defined here20:34
jabbaid:5:initdefault:20:34
mooperBINGO20:35
jabbaso you'd just echo "id:3:initdefault" > /etc/inittab20:35
mooperbut, the format is different on debian systems20:35
mooperactually, maybe not. vanilla kernal and all20:35
jabbait doesn't matter if it's different20:36
jabbathat's what the shell is looking for20:36
erythrocytejabba, mooper: lemme know what i need to do, once you've figured it all out20:36
moopersudo echo "id:3:initdefault" > /etc/inittab20:36
jabbaerythrocyte: do what i saaaay20:36
moopererythrocyte: run that in a terminal20:36
jabbamooper: you can't redirect from sudo20:36
erythrocytejabba: ok20:36
mooperthen reboot20:36
mooperand prey20:36
jabbamooper: echo 'id:3:initdefault' | sudo dd of=/etc/inittab20:37
deejaypipI inserted a DVD into my CD driver. Then I opened up Totem movie player and it said, "An error occurred. Could not read from resource." Any ideas?20:37
booh__omg20:37
mooperand we shall make the sacrafice, we must time it right, so that as the kernel is loading we plunge the knife into the microsoftie20:37
erythrocytejabba, mooper: man i'm seeing double!20:37
erythrocytelol20:37
booh__deejaypip: install some libdvdcss?20:37
jabbaerythrocyte: use the dd command i gave you.20:37
deejaypipokay20:37
erythrocytejabba: okey dokes20:37
jabbaactuall wait20:38
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jabba*is* there an /etc/inittab?20:38
erythrocytejabba: what if i need to return to default?20:38
jabbaerythrocyte: just rm it20:38
erythrocytejabba: nope there isn't20:38
mooperno the file does not exist20:38
erythrocytejabba: ok20:39
erythrocytehere goes nothing fellas20:39
erythrocytebrb20:39
deejaypipIt says that I can't install Xine extra plugins because it either requires special hardware features or the vendor doesn't support my computer type20:39
willi need help im trying to use frostwire for ubuntu and this comes up20:40
willSomething went wrong with FrostWire.20:40
willMaybe you're using the wrong version of Java?20:40
will(FrostWire is tested against and works best with with Sun's JRE, Java 1.4+)20:40
willThe version of Java in your PATH is:20:40
willjava version "1.6.0"20:40
willOpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b09)20:40
willOpenJDK Client VM (build 1.6.0-b09, mixed mode, sharing)20:40
trappistwill: please don't paste here20:40
jabba!paste | will20:40
ubottuwill: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)20:40
willsorry but thats wat it says20:40
willsorry20:40
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mooperjabba: I wonder if we shall ever see him again20:41
willhow do i fix that though20:41
mooperwill run away20:41
mooperjava is poo20:41
jabbamooper: i sacrificed a chicken and a sarlacc20:41
mooperand I got the MSCE, so we should be good20:42
willlisten all i need is help not sarcasim20:42
mooperunless.........well /etc/inittab is red had20:42
jabbamooper: i think the worst that can happen is he'll come up in 520:42
moopermaybe we should have done a RHCE20:42
mooperwill, I was helping.20:43
willthen wat do i use20:43
mooperyou will end up banging your head againt a flaming brick wall20:43
mooperwhat does frostwire do?20:43
willdowloads music20:43
mooperah, ktorrent20:43
willits fast so i like it20:43
jabbamooper: i'm an rhce.20:43
moopera fine application20:43
willits like limewire20:43
mooperjabba: hmmm20:44
* mooper lunges for jabba20:44
mooperwill, use ktorrent20:44
willi want to use frostwire20:44
mooper*sigh20:44
mooperfrostwire is broken on your system20:44
willso someone please help me20:45
willhow do i fi it20:45
mooperwill, ktorrent works the same, its a torrent client20:45
mooperwill #java20:45
mooperhave you tried ktorrent?20:45
deejaypiphmm, libdvdread3 isn't working. I'm going to try something else. Ideas?20:46
willhow do i identify myself?20:46
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* mooper sacrifices jabba so that frostwire will work. With a maaad look in his eyes he implores the sun god to accept hs fayre20:47
_sourcemakerare there any working wlan cards for linux... without hacking the system?20:47
mooper_sourcemaker: depends on the distro20:48
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mooperlook for the most popular cards20:48
_sourcemakermooper: kubuntu...20:48
mooperon lappy?20:48
mooperbroadcom support is good20:48
Ferchohello20:48
mooperI suppose the same will apply to desktops20:48
will__how do i register?20:48
_sourcemakermooper: nice... I have bought a broadcom today... without sucess !!!20:49
FerchoI have some trouble with and epson printer, maybe someone know this issue20:49
_sourcemakermooper: 4 hours... reading all the stuff ... ndiswrapper... fwcutter... nothings works20:49
mooperwill__: goto #frostwire and follow ins20:49
mooper_sourcemaker: really?20:50
_sourcemakermooper: yes20:50
will__no i have an acount20:50
mooperurm20:50
FerchoI have an epson stylus 580. When you're printing and it runs out of paper, you put paper on it but there's no way to tell the printer to continue20:50
will__but how do i login?20:50
mooperwill__: I dont know, now be a dear and sod off20:50
Ferchothis printer has no buttons on it20:50
moopererythrocyte: YAY20:51
mooperdid it work?20:51
will__go to hell20:51
mooperI already did20:51
jabbarehi!20:51
erythrocytewoa...mooper, jabba...something really weird happened...i booted into X anyway!20:51
erythrocytelol20:51
mooperyou were right jabba20:52
erythrocytemooper, jabba: what's goin on?20:52
moopererythrocyte: god knows20:52
erythrocytelol20:52
mooperits all borked20:52
deejaypipshit, I can't seem to play this DVD. I tried installing a bunch of dvdlibs, but they're not working20:52
moopersacrafice more engineers20:52
mooperdeejaypip: install vlc20:52
moopershould work20:52
pteague_laptopanybody know what scrollkeeper-update is?20:52
deejaypipthanks mooper; I'll try20:52
erythrocytemooper, jabba: anyway...so my boot still hung infinitely at 'reading files needed to boot'20:53
mooperthen.........well thats pre X anyway20:53
mooperooh, I know what it is20:53
erythrocytebtw i noticed that before 'reading files needed to boot' it says running /scripts/innit bottom something20:53
mooperit is trying to find a resume image to boot from20:53
jabbaerythrocyte: that doesn't sound like init20:53
jabbamooper: it might be complaining about inittab...20:54
mooperduh, no erythrocyte's original problem was that his boots were taking frikkin ages20:54
erythrocytemooper: yea that's right20:55
mooperthe inittab makes no bones20:55
jabbamooper: a resume image sounds like hibernate to me.20:55
jabbaerythrocyte: is it a laptop?20:55
erythrocyteno it's a desktop20:55
jabbahm.20:56
jabbawell, i'm at a loss. what if you boot into runlevel 2 or 120:56
mooperjabba, need to turn off quiet splash20:56
jabba2 should get you networking, and 1 will just boot.20:56
jabbamooper: ding. whoops.20:56
jabbamooper: i'm a solaris guy normally. :)20:56
jabbawhat? splash? you mean open firmware?!!20:56
mooperI am a moron usually but today Im being a guru20:56
erythrocytejabba, mooper: could this possibly be related to a corrupt initramfs image or something?20:57
mooperno, quiet spalsh is a kernel opetion that you set in grup that turns aff all the lovely boot messages20:57
moopers/grup/grub20:57
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jabbaerythrocyte: it kinda sounds like it... but turning off splash will help20:58
erythrocyteno, i'm sorry, i meant could my slow boot be due to that20:58
jabbaerythrocyte: when grub comes up you need to press 'e' to edit your boot line20:58
moopererythrocyte: do you see the message "Kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot..."20:58
jabbaremove the word that says "quiet"20:58
erythrocytei did...turning off splash...turning it on...it's all just the same20:58
mooperI know, but you need to read the messages that you get when you turn off quiet boot20:58
erythrocytemooper: yea...but that mssg has always been there...ever since feisty20:58
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mooperaha, but you can turn off the looking for resume image cos that can take ages for the system to realise that its not there20:59
erythrocytejabba, mooper: i did, look at the messages i mean20:59
mooperlike grandma looking for the keys that are allready in her hand20:59
erythrocytemooper: it's not actually slow at that stage20:59
franceschola20:59
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deejaypipHmm. VLC still isn't playing my DVD. The timer indicates that the video is running, but I don't see an image.21:00
moopererythrocyte: oh, before that stage?21:00
mooperdeejaypip: uhm21:00
erythrocyteit's like after the kinit thingy...i get running /scripts/local something and then /scripts/init something and then....the 'reading files needed to boot'...here's where it hangs for minutes21:00
moopererythrocyte: how old is the installation?21:01
erythrocytei installed hardy the week it came out...so i think about 15 days21:01
mooperreinstall it :)21:01
erythrocytemooper: lol..i was actually hoping that i might not need to21:02
mooperwell, no bugger has any idea whats going on21:03
mooperso there is maybe some weird corruption21:03
erythrocytemooper: what puzzles me is that this slow down has only started after updates21:03
mooperexactly, reinstall and run the updates21:03
mooperI never do ubuntu updates usually, everything breaks21:04
erythrocytemooper: is it ok to generate a new initrd.img? you think that could have been corrupted somehow?21:04
mooperI have no idea whats going on21:04
moopersomething has been borked21:04
erythrocytemooper: fine..i guess i'll have to reinstall21:04
erythrocytemooper, jabba: thanks anyway21:05
moopernp21:05
KaTetHallo, ich hab Probleme beim Drucken unter kubuntu 8.04. Kann mir da jemand weiter helfen?21:07
KaTetOh, sorry.Should I write it in english?21:08
nosrednaekimyes :)21:08
jhutchins_wkKaTet: ALthough I think there's #kubuntu-de21:09
lummyep21:09
KaTetOk. I have some problems with printing under kubuntu 8.04. Anyone here who can help?21:09
nosrednaekimsure... we can try21:10
mooperhave you tried cups?21:10
KaTetBy the way, nice idea 'Mike Anderson'21:10
nosrednaekim:P21:10
mooper /whois nosrednaekim21:11
mooper\whois nosrednaekim21:11
mooper?21:11
KaTetOk. After upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04 printing is no more possible21:11
nosrednaekimno space mooper :P21:12
mooperdoh21:12
mooperKaTet: errors?21:12
nosrednaekimdon't know whay I'm telling you that <_<21:12
KaTetI deinstalled all printer and installed driver manually. Again no printing possible. Then I set the right for /dev/usb/lp0 additionally on read/write for others and now it works.21:14
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KaTetAfter System restart the rights are set back to 'no access fpr other'21:15
KaTetand printing is not possibe again21:16
KaTetAny idea?21:16
nosrednaekimwhat kind of printer is it?21:16
nosrednaekimcannon,HP, etc21:16
KaTetcanon ip160021:17
KaTetowner of /dev/usb/lp0 is root, group is lp21:18
nosrednaekim!canon21:19
ubottuFactoid canon not found21:19
nosrednaekim!cannon21:19
ubottuFactoid cannon not found21:19
jdavies!printer21:19
ubottuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows21:19
KaTetYes, I know. Canon printer is allways special. But it worked under 7.10 perfectly. An it still does if the rights for /dev/usb/lp0 are changed.21:21
nosrednaekimKaTet: well, you can change them on boot....21:22
nosrednaekimput the commands in /etc/rc.local21:22
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Daisuke_Idoka-tet, huh?21:23
ben__woot21:24
KaTetat the moment ka-tet with you21:24
BBM-5hi21:26
KaTetOk, /etc/rc.local would give a workarround. But I doesn't look like a solution, I mean a real one.21:26
BBM-5whats up guys21:26
BBM-5need some help withvirtual box21:27
BBM-5i cant use the alt key in the VM21:28
nosrednaekimwhats the problem21:28
BBM-5i need it for photoshop21:28
crashhandlerthere are something like blurred kde images on konqueror...how to remove that21:30
crashhandleri mean the background thing21:30
PhilRodcrashhandler: view->configure background21:31
crashhandlerowh thanks :d21:31
nosrednaekimBBM-5: did you install guest additions?21:31
BBM-5yes21:31
BBM-5read something about disabling Mouse Integration but have no idea where to do that21:33
Steve-calWhat's a really good GUI program for searching for files? I'm looking for one that has the ability to exclude any directories I specify, and have other options like min/max file size, etc. Any ideas?21:34
nosrednaekimSteve-cal: I'm pretty sure kfind can do that kinda stuff21:34
Steve-calnosrednaekim: Some things, but I don't see any option to exclude certain directories from the search.21:35
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rysiek|plhi all21:39
rysiek|plguys, is there a repo or something along the lines to install KDE4 on Hardy from?21:39
jdlanteignehello21:39
SlimeyPete!kde421:39
ubottuKDE 4.0.4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde421:39
jdlanteignei need help21:39
SlimeyPete!ask | jdlanteigne21:39
ubottujdlanteigne: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)21:39
rysiek|plSlimeyPete: !thanks ;)21:40
erythrocytemooper, jabba: check this out http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/since-we-have-no-etcinittab-506281/21:41
mariahello21:42
mariahow do i become root in konsole?21:42
erythrocytemaria: sudo su21:42
SlimeyPete!sudo | maria21:42
ubottumaria: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.21:42
jussi01erythrocyte: thats incorrect for us, ad we dont use it. please use sudo -i instead21:42
mariathank you very much... i am installing gimp for the first time21:42
SlimeyPetemaria: erm21:43
SlimeyPeteusing apt-get?21:43
mariayes21:43
SlimeyPeteah21:43
mariathat was the instruction on the gimp website21:43
SlimeyPeteok - it's just that sometimes people try to install from source because they don't know about apt-get21:43
rysiek|plmaria: you can find Gimp in Adept21:43
SlimeyPeteapt-get is the way to do it :) Or use Adept from the k-menu (same thing, but with graphics)21:44
erythrocytejussi01: how is sudo su different from sudo -i ? just curious :)21:44
rysiek|plmaria: or in "Add/Remove Programs"21:44
mariathank you all for your help21:44
rysiek|plmaria: a wee bit more "user friendly", although I do prefer the commandline ;)21:44
jdlanteigne i just installed an nvidia geforce card and would like to enable the 3d drivers for it.  how do i do that?21:44
jussi01erythrocyte: wait a sec, Ill see if i can find a nice article that explains it21:44
jussi01!nvidia   | jdlanteigne21:45
ubottujdlanteigne: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:45
erythrocytejussi01: thanks :)21:45
rysiek|pljdlanteigne: erm. I'd check in System Settings or in KMenu -> System for "Restricted Drivers"21:45
rysiek|pljdlanteigne: in Gutsy it's in KMenu -> System Settings -> Advanced tab. In hardy it should be in the very same place; it should allow you to install the drivers automagically ;)21:46
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norman_xhi out there21:47
SlimeyPetehi21:48
crankcallerhi21:48
ItakuCAPS LOCK ARENT ON BUT IT KEEPS SPITTING OUT CAPS HOW DO I FIX IT?21:48
rysiek|plItaku: erm. did you try hitting capslock a single time, and then type?21:49
norman_xi am running kubuntu 8.04 with kde 3.5.9. thunderbird does not open firefox-2, when I klick on a link in an email. how can I fix that?21:49
jussi01erythrocyte: if you have a look at the article that the bot gave, under the "Special notes on sudo and shells" section21:49
Itakunow my caps are on and its spiting out lower case21:49
Itakuthe caps lock light is on21:49
rysiek|pld'oh21:49
rysiek|plnorman_x: KMenu -> System Settings -> (wait a sec, checking ;) )21:49
nosrednaekimnorman_x: you'll have to put in the full path to firefox221:49
rysiek|plnorman_x: -> "Default applications" or something named similarily (I have a different language version)21:50
norman_xok, in system settings it is in, but without the full path, I will try that. thanx.21:50
erythrocytejussi01: got it ...thanks :)21:51
rysiek|plnorman_x: it might also be that Thunderbird does not honour the system web broser setting21:51
jussi01erythrocyte: great :)21:51
rysiek|plnorman_x: in that case you probably have to find this setting in Tb itself21:51
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byte71how to customize desktop for all user??21:57
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sourcemaker_join kubuntu-de21:57
ugasourcemaker_: I won't21:58
uga=)21:58
PhilRodbyte71: copy the relevant files from ~/.kde to `kde-config --prefix` basically21:58
PhilRodsee the user guide on docs.kde.org, section "kde for admins"21:58
sourcemaker_uga: :-)21:58
jdlanteignethanks the restricted driver manager took care of it22:02
jdlanteignehow do i enable compiz?22:02
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jdlanteigne!-compiz-fusion22:04
ubottucompiz-fusion is <alias> compiz - added by jrib on 2007-09-15 01:44:26 - last edited by jrib on 2007-09-15 01:50:4122:04
deejaypipSo it looks like none of the DVD players like my hardware. Lenovo thinkpad R61.22:05
jdlanteigne!compiz22:05
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion22:05
deejaypipI'm not able to play encripted DVDs. Suggestions?22:06
scobercan you play unencrypted dvd's?  if so you might just need decss installed22:07
BluesKaj!DVD | deejaypip22:07
ubottudeejaypip: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs22:07
deejaypipAlright, thanks22:07
PhilRodhow do I find out what files a currently uninstalled package will install?22:08
deejaypipahhh, another issue with my DVDs is that I need subtitles. I'm deaf.22:09
BluesKajdeejaypip, libdvdcss2 merely rids the dvd of the DRM tag , subtitles etc should be preserved if you copy the full dvds without compression22:12
BBM-5nosrednaekim: problem solved22:12
BBM-5cyall22:12
jdlanteignewhat package do i need to get to manage compiz?22:14
Daisuke_Idojdlanteigne: compizconfig-settings-manager (or something similar22:14
Daisuke_Idoapt-cache search compizconfig22:15
pimI'm trying to navigat to a folder in bash22:16
pimbut when I type cd Microsoft Office22:16
pimit says the directory doesn't exist22:16
pimwhilst ls22:16
pimlists me the direcotry Microsoft Office22:16
PhilRodyou need to escape the space22:16
Pennycookcd Microsoft\ Office22:17
pimhow do I do that?22:17
pimah22:17
LuigiTheKingwhi my shutdown menù don't have immage of kde?????????22:17
PennycookOr you can use tab completion. XD22:17
pimthanks!22:17
PhilRodbut tab complete is your friend here - just do "cd Micr<TAB>"22:17
pimit doesn work since there is another sub-directory that also starts with Microsoft22:17
pimso that's why ;-)22:18
PhilRodah, ok. The trick is still worth knowing though :-)22:18
BluesKajMS Office run on wine ?22:18
PennycookBluesKaj: I thin kit depends on the version.  Check here: http://appdb.winehq.org/22:19
Daisuke_Idoit does, but why would you want to?22:19
pimIt does run on wine ;-)22:19
BluesKajOO seems fine to me22:19
pimhow can I copy a file from my desktop to my current directory? cp /home/pim/Desktop/file .22:20
pim?22:20
Daisuke_Idoi can't think of any reason - professional or academic - that i could possibly require MS Office over OOo22:20
nosrednaekimpim: yes22:20
PennycookDaisuke_Ido: I suppose some people might /have/ to use Access?22:21
BluesKajpim , copy & paste22:21
pimno it won let me22:22
pimI'm doing something not so legal with office :p22:22
BluesKajpermission ?22:22
Daisuke_Idowhat's your current directory?22:22
pimdont know I'm copying to a folder in wine22:22
pimhm I think it hasn't worked22:23
pimI'm actually trying to bypass the Office 2003 Authentication22:23
pimbut it's not really working yet22:24
pimwell I'll let you know when I get it working22:24
pimwhat package to I install for spellchecking in openoffice?22:26
BluesKajOO has one in the tools section22:27
pimhm22:28
pimI tried it via apt-get22:28
pimwell the language packages are there22:29
pimonly they dont seem to be working22:29
pimWhen I type afdafdf or something silly, it won't correct it22:29
BluesKajyou prolly need to do a reboot22:29
BluesKajor a relogin22:30
pimok brb22:30
pimHm spellcheck still doesn't work22:33
pimat all22:33
BluesKajI think you have to enable it22:34
pimwhere?22:34
pimIm searching for options nwo :p22:34
BluesKajbt clicking it in tools22:34
BluesKajby22:34
pimwell I can't get it to work22:36
pimanyway it's 23:36 and I'm dead tired22:36
pimand I have school tomorrow22:36
pimSo thanks for helping BluesKaj22:36
pimcu later22:36
francoishi can someone help me with my ppp connection ?22:40
makavelikde4 was buggy as hell when i tried it22:42
jhunsalut22:49
jhutchins_wkBluesKaj: #openoffice.org22:52
DragnslcrWill Kubuntu recognize a new SATA drive that gets connected while the system is running?22:53
vltHello. What program causes the popup dialog when I insert an Audio CD, for example?22:54
vltDragnslcr: Yes, if your BIOS supports it.22:54
erichI have a fresh clean hardy install... but the wlan is not working... any help? http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/16022:54
Dragnslcrvlt- it's a relatively new motherboard (bought last year) that has hardware RAID for the SATA controllers, so I'd guess that the BIOS shouldn't have a problem with it. Thanks22:55
bobbyyuHi, I use XSane, but recently, it tells me that the device was busy; I can't access it.23:03
epWhat are the negatives to 8.04 (KDE 4 remix)?  You folks recomend this?23:08
nosrednaekimtest it as a liveCD, or install it after installing the kde3... but don't just install the remix23:10
nosrednaekiminstall it afterwards with "apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop"23:11
epokay, good advice :)23:11
ugasts_: sigh, your university stole my precious domain name ;)23:11
navetzcan somebody please help me with my apache LAMP server, I can not go to localhost unless I am online, I can't do work without an internet connection.23:17
DragnslcrIs there anything I have to run to get a newly-connected SATA drive detected? Just hoping to be able to format the drive and copy some stuff to it without rebooting23:18
william_ sometimes downloaded movie clips (usually in divX) allow viewing but not fast forwarding.  what causes that and how to fix it23:18
william_dragnslcr usually it does automatically?23:18
level1_hi, I can't seem to run qt designer... the package is install, but how do I run it?23:18
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: you can't hotplug those things :P23:19
Dragnslcrnosrednaekim- heh23:19
nosrednaekimlevel1_: designer-qt423:19
william_yes you can23:19
william_sata are hotpluggable23:19
nosrednaekimIn linux? really?23:19
william_not sure about in linux but the specs allow for it23:19
DragnslcrI've seen some forum posts where people couldn't get new drives detected23:19
DragnslcrYeah, I knew SATA is hot-swappable23:19
DragnslcrJust wasn't sure if Ubuntu would detect the new disk23:20
DragnslcrA /dev/sdc didn't show up23:20
meddlerGood evening, I am new to kubuntu and am having difficulty with my wireless connection, here goes:  I am running Kubutu 8.04 on my acer aspire 4315, I can connect via a wired network, and have installed the atheros network driver netathr.inf  I was running the same distribution up until the weekend when I reinstalled as I loaded ubuntu studio and only half the applications worked - for some reason I can't find the list of23:20
meddleravailable wireless networks to connect to - apologies if this is long winded23:20
DragnslcrI've never tried before, so I wasn't sure if there's a command that will scan the SATA controllers for new devices23:21
william_maybe mount?23:21
william_im noob i know but now the good dr_willis is here23:22
DragnslcrHeh23:22
Dr_willisi am out of here in 9 min.23:22
DragnslcrI know mount requires an entry in /dev first, and there's no /dev/sdc23:22
DragnslcrDr_willis- I'm just trying to see if Ubuntu will recognize a new SATA drive or if I have to reboot23:23
Dr_willishot plugged?23:23
DragnslcrYeah23:24
Dr_willisgood luck with that. :)23:25
Dr_willisI do recall some hotplug utilities23:25
DragnslcrHeh, I can just reboot23:26
william_Dr_willis: some of the videos i downloaded are in a weird form of divX that doesnt allow fast forwarding.  what is that and how can i fix it?23:26
DragnslcrGot a new 500 GB drive. Gonna copy everything from the 250 that had Windows on it and set that up as a RAID mirror23:26
DragnslcrThen set up Keep to make backups to the 50023:27
Dr_williswilliam_,  ive seen that issue with some badly done videos. some sort of index that ive seen avidmux rebuild/correct.23:27
william_you rock doc23:27
Dr_williswilliam_,  i recall vlc  or mplayer correcting them also..  I think23:27
tzdDragnslcr: so Keep is a great tool for backups? Been looking for something to handle backups :)23:32
roothola23:32
NickPrestatzd, I like Keep. That, or an rsync bash script :)23:33
Dragnslcrtzd- I've never used it, but it looks pretty simple to set up23:34
tzdNickPresta: Will Keep copy all things I might need in case of a hdd failure?23:34
tzdDragnslcr: ah ok.23:34
DragnslcrI would think that Keep is just a frontend for rsync23:34
nat2610are there a shortcut to go from a desktop to another one with kde ?23:35
NickPrestatzd, keep is configurable in almost every way you could want. :)23:35
tzdnat2610:  try ctrl + Fkey23:35
nat2610thanks23:35
nat2610tzd:  that was that23:35
tzdnat2610: good :)23:36
tzdNickPresta: ah sweet! I need to try it out then. I'm ab it of a newbie when it comes to backups for linux but the longer I wait the more scared I get ;P23:36
Dragnslcrtzd- correction, it uses rdiff23:37
tzdDragnslcr: ok, a bit over my skills now ^^23:37
rootgood tsd23:37
NikLPI hope you guys are more helpful than the ubuntu channel... lot of chaff on there...23:40
NikLPI'm running MS VirtualPC 2007 with a 1.5GB disk, install fails like "an installation step failed .. select and install software" should I make the virtual disk bigger? (VPC said it would auto-grow it, but I'm not sure)23:40
NikLP8.0423:40
rootHABLAN ESPAÑOL23:41
rootLO NESECITO23:42
DragnslcrNikLP- 1.5 GB probably won't be big enough for anything more than a minimal system23:42
Dragnslcr!es | root23:42
ubotturoot: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.23:42
NikLPDragnslcr: sure - but it just fails - I get no options - should I just increase that anyway and hope for the best? Seems like an option, but I don't want to waste another 30 mins if someone here knows better :)23:43
DragnslcrAutomagically expanding the size of a virtual disk is entirely up the VM system23:44
DragnslcrI would think the Kubuntu installer would check for free disk space before starting the installation, but the VM might not be reporting it correctly23:44
NikLPright so grow that sucka, yeah?23:45
NikLPwasn't sure how much linux had grown in the last xx years :/23:45
DragnslcrThe base system would probably fit in 1.5 GB easily, but KDE adds quite a bit23:46
NikLPah well23:46
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NikLPI have pretty limited space is all... I'll clear down and see what I can do from there, thanks :)23:46
DragnslcrEh, disk space is dirt cheap this days23:47
Dragnslcr500 GB drive for under $10023:47
DragnslcrGood luck with it23:47
NikLPyeah I'm on a laptop with 40GB total at the moment, so we'll see what we can do. I just upgraded to 1GB RAM this MORNING, so you can see where I'm at :)23:48
DragnslcrHehe, good point23:49
Dragnslcr'Course that's why I like desktops. I just dropped in a new 500 GB drive23:49
lukaszwitajcie ludu !!23:54
lukasz:D23:54
lukaszjest ktos z Was kto by sie znal na konfiguracji wifi? :/23:55
NickPresta!pl | lukasz23:55
ubottulukasz: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl23:55
lukaszthx23:56

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