[08:06] <mantiena> hello all
[08:08] <mantiena> Now Lauchpad forbids to change (edit) distribution details (description, summary, etc., look at https://edge.launchpad.net/baltix/+edit ), maybe someone knows why ?
[08:12] <mantiena> mpt: hi, are you soyuz developer ?
[08:12] <mpt> mantiena, no, but I'm seeing all the Soyuz developers in 38 minutes
[08:12] <mpt> Why do you ask?
[08:13] <leoquant> ah uds?
[08:14] <mantiena> mpt: because of bug I've just told in this channel :)
[08:14] <mpt> oh, right
[08:14] <mpt> mantiena, is this a new problem?
[08:15] <Hobbsee> mpt: he's the driver, so he should be able to...
[08:15] <Hobbsee> mpt: so, it must have happened after the intrepid opening, as there weren't problems reported then, iirc.
[08:17] <mpt> Why would Intrepid opening have anything to do with changing Baltix distribution details?
[08:17] <mpt> mantiena, do you remember when you last successfully changed the details?
[08:18] <mantiena> mpt: sorry, I don't remember :(
[08:19] <mantiena> AFAIK this year I didn't tried to change distribution details
[08:21] <mpt> works for me when I try it locally
[08:22] <Hobbsee> mpt: because they also changed ubuntu distro details, after the intrepid was created for them.
[08:22] <mantiena> I can tell the error message if you need
[08:23] <mpt> mantiena, sorry, I can't work it out myself
[08:23] <mpt> mantiena, please report a bug <https://bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz> with the error code
[08:25] <mpt> or maybe bigjools can help you
[08:25]  * bigjools hides
[08:29] <mantiena> bigjools: please unhide :)
[08:30]  * bigjools unhides!
[08:30] <bigjools> mantiena: what can I help you with?
[08:30] <mantiena> bigjools: Lauchpad forbids to change (edit) distribution details (description, summary, etc., look at https://edge.launchpad.net/baltix/+edit ) :(
[08:31] <bigjools> right, you have to be an admin to do that
[08:32] <mantiena> bigjools: but I was able to change the details some time ago
[08:32] <bigjools> hmm just a moment, let me check the exact permissions required
[08:36] <mantiena> bigjools: I'm main baltix distro developer
[08:37] <philn> hi
[08:38] <mantiena> hi philn
[08:39] <mantiena> I get this error message when I try to change distribution details:
[08:39] <mantiena> Now allowed here
[08:39] <mantiena> Not allowed here
[08:39] <mantiena> Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page
[08:40] <mantiena> mpt: I remember when I changed distribution details last time !!!
[08:41] <mantiena> this was this year, I've changed bug reporting guidelines
[08:41] <mantiena> maybe in April or March
[08:41] <bigjools> mantiena: are you logged in as "mantas" ?
[08:43] <mantiena> bigjools: yes, of course ;)
[08:48] <bigjools> mantiena: bear with me a moment, I am trying to re-create your problem
[08:51] <mantiena> bigjools: hehe, It would be better if you fix instead of re-creating ;)
[08:52] <bigjools> mantiena: thanks for your insight
[08:55] <mantiena> bigjools: :-P
[09:04] <bigjools> mantiena: it is a bug, can you please file a question on answers.launchpad.net/soyuz with the details of what you need changed and someone will look at it.  I will file a bug to fix this problem.
[09:08] <mantiena> bigjools: please tell me the bug number or subscribe me to that bug
[09:08] <bigjools> mantiena: I will subscribe you when I've entered it
[09:09] <mantiena> bigjools: thanks
[09:10] <bigjools> de rien
[09:52] <dhart> quick q: can a superproject's name be a bzr lp:name ? or should I rename projects + supperprojects?
[10:03] <philn> gmb: hi
[10:03] <gmb> philn: Hi.
[10:03] <gmb> philn: demo.lp.net should be okay for you to check things out on now.
[10:04] <gmb> philn: I'm ready to let let production import roll when you say so.
[10:06] <philn> great.. i'll ask ppl to check once more
[10:09] <cody-somerville> mpt, you're taking notes on the spit and polish session?
[10:09] <mpt> cody-somerville, yes, intrepid-spit-and-polish
[10:10] <cody-somerville> mpt, Excellent. I'd love to review them afterwards. I wish I could be in that session but I need to be in the live cd memory requirements as Xubuntu's live cd doesn't meet our hardware target currently.
[10:11] <mpt> cody-somerville, you can still watch the gobby doc
[10:11] <cody-somerville> Okay :)
[10:11] <mpt> (this discussion would belong better in #uds-desktop)
[10:29] <mantiena> bigjools: are you soyuz developer ?
[10:30] <bigjools> mantiena: yes
[10:34] <mantiena> bigjools: what you think about bug 211223
[10:34] <mantiena> shouldn't this bug to be assigned to soyuz ?
[10:35] <bigjools> mantiena: yes, it should, please do that
[10:40] <mantiena> bigjools: What you think about quick solution, proposed by Colin Watson for this long standing issue? He proposes to add the possibility to register a milestone that doesn't have a series yet, and to move milestone to the series once it's registered. See bug #201623 for more info.
[10:42] <bigjools> mantiena: you should talk to kiko about that, it's a managerial decision rather than a technical one
[10:45] <philn> is there a way to bring ubottu to a new channel?
[10:46] <mantiena> bigjools: maybe you know when kiko will be here ?
[10:46] <bigjools> mantiena: he's at UDS, he may come online later
[10:51] <thumper> dhart: branches are associated with projects, not superprojects (project groups), so the branches have project based names
[10:52] <dhart> thumper: thanks, that's what I thought. I should probably submit requests to rename the projects and superprojects in question
[12:54] <Hobbsee> philn: ask in #ubuntu-ops.
[12:57] <davmor2> Hello can I get some help please.  I setup ages ago a ~davmor2 which plugged into a dead hotmail account.  The account I actually use is ~davmor2-gmail.  Is there anyway I can transfer my davmor2-gmail to davmor2?  Also I still don't seem to have my email alias setup but was wondering if it was setup to my old account?
[12:58] <Hobbsee> davmor2: you can file a question, and get them merged.
[12:59] <davmor2> Hobbsee: how and where please?
[12:59] <Hobbsee> davmor2: /topic
[13:00] <Hobbsee> davmor2: if it keeps expiring, you just have to keep hitting the "this is still a problem" button, until it gets actioned.
[13:00] <davmor2> Thanks
[13:01] <Hobbsee> np
[14:21] <Hobbsee> spiv: oops, you broke it.
[14:21]  * Hobbsee glances at it, and wonders what the hell happened.
[14:22]  * Hobbsee thought progress bars were supposed to go up, not up and down, too...
[14:23] <Hobbsee> do we have any bzr'ers around, to see if they've seen this before?
[14:24] <wgrant> I've noticed that with big branches.
[14:25] <Hobbsee> oh, it's a bzr bug.  we don't have the latest version in hardy.
[14:26] <Hobbsee> wgrant: any chance you could SRU it?
[14:26] <wgrant> bzr is in that other component.
[14:26] <wgrant> And I've not hacked it to pieces before.
[14:26] <Hobbsee> oh, bugger.
[14:26] <Hobbsee> it is, too.
[14:42] <Dvyjones> How do I delete a project?
[14:42] <Dvyjones> And teams?
[14:45] <intellectronica> Dvyjones: what do you want to delete? you can't usually do that, but if it's a legitimate request you can ask the admins to do that
[14:47] <Dvyjones> intellectronica: A project I created I while ago which is "cancelled" (phajax).
[14:47] <Dvyjones> intellectronica: And the teams corresponding to that project
[14:48] <intellectronica> Dvyjones: why delete it? maybe someone else will pick it up
[14:48] <Dvyjones> intellectronica: Then is it possible for me to leave it?
[14:54] <Dvyjones> Is there any way to leave a project when I am the owner/administrator? Or do I have to appoint someone else?
[14:54] <Hobbsee> Dvyjones: the latter.
[14:55] <Hobbsee> they can be ~registry-admins, iirc, 
[14:59] <Dvyjones> ~registry-admins doesn't exist
[15:00] <Hobbsee> ah, looks to be registry
[15:02] <Dvyjones> So I should just change what to registry?
[15:03] <Dvyjones> nvm, found it
[15:06] <Dvyjones> Is there a way to remove myself as a driver after someone else took over the project?
[16:10] <Dvyjones> Would this be "correct": Setting a team as the registrant on a project and me as driver?
[16:11] <cody-somerville> Dvyjones, sure
[16:25] <gmb> philn: ping
[16:25] <philn> pong
[16:25] <philn> i got no feedback.. :/ let's assume it's good to go
[16:28] <philn> gmb: milestones can be edited on bugs afterwards, right?
[16:29] <gmb> philn: Correct.
[16:29] <philn> Kaleo is having a look at the import
[16:34] <gmb> Okay.
[16:36] <philn> didn't notice any issue... let's get this done! :)
[16:38] <Kaleo> gmb: nice!
[16:38] <Kaleo> gmb: thanks for the work and enjoy uds :)
[16:39] <gmb> Kaleo: Glad you like it. :)
[16:39] <gmb> philn: I'll get the production import kicked off shortly.
[16:41] <philn> bonjour
[16:41] <philn> shht
[16:42] <philn> thx
[16:43] <Hobbsee> gmb: so much for the bug :)
[16:44] <gmb> Hobbsee: Yeah :S.
[16:44] <gmb> Hobbsee: So, the key is that we (the LP team) keep on top of and assign such items, which obviously we haven't been doing as efficiently as we need to.
[16:44] <Hobbsee> gmb: yes, i presume so.
[16:45] <Hobbsee> gmb: that's the only real solution, unless you awnt people demanding that you do their stuff on irc, or them moving awya from LP if their stuff doesn't get done.
[16:45] <Hobbsee> both of which are suboptimal
[16:45] <gmb> Agreed.
[16:46] <gmb> Hobbsee: I'll bring this up at the meeting tomorrow night and make sure it's kept on top of.
[16:46] <Hobbsee> gmb: good luck!
[16:46] <gmb> :_
[16:46] <gmb> :)
[16:46] <Dvyjones> blueprints is used for things that should be achieved in that version? Like, when all blueprints for 1.0 is achieved/implemented then release 1.0
[16:46] <gmb> even
[16:46]  * Hobbsee recalls what happened to her last agenda point that got put on a meeting, and hopes you have better luck than that!
[17:27] <gmb> philn: Import complete on production: http://bugs.launchpad.net/elisa
[17:30] <philn> gmb: thx
[17:31] <gmb> philn: np.
[17:31] <Dvyjones> Does launchpad have a linux distro feature  (saw a list of distros somewhere on launchpad)
[19:27] <Dvyjones> How do I get a super-project created?
[19:39] <thumper> Dvyjones: ask a question on the launchpad project
[19:41] <Dvyjones> Ok, did so, do you know the average time to get it approved?
[19:45] <thumper> Dvyjones: quicker if you poke an lp-admin person
[19:46] <Dvyjones> Who are lp-admins here?
[19:47]  * Dvyjones pokes the lp-admin that can do it :P
[19:52] <Dvyjones> mthaddon: Can you make a project group? https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/33807
[19:52] <mthaddon> Dvyjones, I think kiko is usually the one to do that, but let me check if I can
[19:55] <Dvyjones> Or lifeless?
[19:55] <Dvyjones> ok
[19:55] <thumper> Dvyjones: or SteveA
[19:55] <Dvyjones> ty
[19:55] <Rinchen`> Dvyjones, interesting request
[19:55] <Rinchen`> this is really a distro
[19:55] <Dvyjones> What is?
[19:56] <Rinchen> Dvyjones, the OS in a sense
[19:56] <Rinchen> do you have the irc client started yet in LP?
[19:56] <Dvyjones> No, not yet
[19:56] <Dvyjones> The OS isn't a linux distro if that is what you think?
[19:56] <Rinchen> You should do that.  A project group with only one project is rather odd
[19:57] <Dvyjones> ok
[19:57] <Rinchen> Right...I meant it in broader sense :-)   You're sort of an edge case, which is cool.
[19:59] <Rinchen> Dvyjones, is Ignited Aire the successor of Woodpecker?
[19:59] <Dvyjones> Woodpecker, is that registered? :P, Well, it is sorta :P
[20:00] <Rinchen> :-) 
[20:00] <Dvyjones> Rinchen: Wait, You are an OSDever?
[20:00] <Dvyjones> btw, IRC client project registered
[20:01] <Rinchen> When I was at Uni, my software engineer class assignment was to build an OS.  So I wrote one, from scratch, with my girlfriend at the time.  We called it the M00seOS
[20:01] <Rinchen> the worst part was coding the filesystem
[20:02] <Dvyjones> Yes, I still haven't made that complete, think I'm going for ext2, but it takes ages to do :S
[20:04] <Rinchen> Try doing it in Modula-2 :-)
[20:04] <Rinchen> We started in Fortran77, switched to Pascal, then Modula
[20:04] <Dvyjones> :S Sounds hard
[20:05] <Rinchen> we didn't have a free C complier available to us then
[20:05] <Dvyjones> Im doing C+Assembly :P
[20:12] <Dvyjones> Rinchen: How did you know about Woodpecker?
[20:17] <Dvyjones> mthaddon: Sorry to be pinging, but hows it going on th project? Updated the question with th project to be the children, if you need that.
[20:18] <mthaddon> Dvyjones, it's up to Rinchen - I have perms but it's typically kiko that does it, so I'd need to nod from Rinchen
[20:18] <mthaddon> s/need to nod/need a nod/
[20:18] <Dvyjones> ok
[20:24] <Rinchen> hi, back again
[20:25] <Rinchen> Dvyjones, mthaddon - the project group name should be distinct - none of the sub-projects should have the exact same name
[20:25] <Rinchen> so something like IgnitedAir for the group,  IgnitedAirOS for the OS,  IgnitedAirIRC for the IRC client, etc
[20:26] <Rinchen> Aside from that, the only criteria that I know kiko looks for are 1) is this actual software and 2) do you own it
[20:26] <Rinchen> manage it ... etc
[20:26] <Dvyjones> thats what they are now, if im not wrong
[20:30] <stani> how can I copy a package between different distro releases (e.g from hardy -> gutsy) within my ppa?
[20:31] <Dvyjones> And I own the whole program, except for the SmartIrc4Net library used in the Irc client
[20:31] <Rinchen> Dvyjones, ok, we'll get you setup
[20:31] <Dvyjones> :D
[20:36] <Dvyjones> brb
[20:37] <mthaddon> Dvyjones, which user/team should be the owner?
[20:39] <Dvyjones> mthaddon: ~ignitedair-team should be the owner
[20:39] <Dvyjones> back, btw
[20:39] <mthaddon> Dvyjones, https://launchpad.net/ignitedair done
[20:39] <Dvyjones> ty
[20:40] <mthaddon> Dvyjones, you should be able to add projects to that now - do you want me to add the two above, or will you do that?
[20:40] <mthaddon> (and you'll want to change the description/summary, etc.)
[20:40] <Dvyjones> I can do it
[20:40] <mthaddon> cool
[20:43] <Dvyjones> Then the projects are added to the group :D
[20:52] <Dvyjones> And desc/summary is changed, now to work on the os :D
[22:48] <dhart> hi. how do I delete unwanted series, releases and milestones in Launchpad?
[23:04] <stdin> dhart: file a request at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad 
[23:09] <dhart> ﻿stdin: thanks, I figure that out. :-)
[23:17] <jprieur> hello, is the "register a blueprint" button gone?
[23:28] <Laney> Is there a problem with submitting bugs via email? I get no response at all