=== jml` is now known as jml === asac_ is now known as asac [08:06] hello all [08:08] Now Lauchpad forbids to change (edit) distribution details (description, summary, etc., look at https://edge.launchpad.net/baltix/+edit ), maybe someone knows why ? === fta2_ is now known as fta2 === fta2 is now known as fta [08:12] mpt: hi, are you soyuz developer ? [08:12] mantiena, no, but I'm seeing all the Soyuz developers in 38 minutes [08:12] Why do you ask? [08:13] ah uds? [08:14] mpt: because of bug I've just told in this channel :) [08:14] oh, right [08:14] mantiena, is this a new problem? [08:15] mpt: he's the driver, so he should be able to... [08:15] mpt: so, it must have happened after the intrepid opening, as there weren't problems reported then, iirc. [08:17] Why would Intrepid opening have anything to do with changing Baltix distribution details? [08:17] mantiena, do you remember when you last successfully changed the details? [08:18] mpt: sorry, I don't remember :( [08:19] AFAIK this year I didn't tried to change distribution details [08:21] works for me when I try it locally [08:22] mpt: because they also changed ubuntu distro details, after the intrepid was created for them. [08:22] I can tell the error message if you need [08:23] mantiena, sorry, I can't work it out myself [08:23] mantiena, please report a bug with the error code [08:25] or maybe bigjools can help you [08:25] * bigjools hides [08:29] bigjools: please unhide :) [08:30] * bigjools unhides! [08:30] mantiena: what can I help you with? [08:30] bigjools: Lauchpad forbids to change (edit) distribution details (description, summary, etc., look at https://edge.launchpad.net/baltix/+edit ) :( [08:31] right, you have to be an admin to do that [08:32] bigjools: but I was able to change the details some time ago [08:32] hmm just a moment, let me check the exact permissions required [08:36] bigjools: I'm main baltix distro developer [08:37] hi [08:38] hi philn [08:39] I get this error message when I try to change distribution details: [08:39] Now allowed here [08:39] Not allowed here [08:39] Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page [08:40] mpt: I remember when I changed distribution details last time !!! [08:41] this was this year, I've changed bug reporting guidelines [08:41] maybe in April or March [08:41] mantiena: are you logged in as "mantas" ? [08:43] bigjools: yes, of course ;) [08:48] mantiena: bear with me a moment, I am trying to re-create your problem [08:51] bigjools: hehe, It would be better if you fix instead of re-creating ;) [08:52] mantiena: thanks for your insight [08:55] bigjools: :-P [09:04] mantiena: it is a bug, can you please file a question on answers.launchpad.net/soyuz with the details of what you need changed and someone will look at it. I will file a bug to fix this problem. [09:08] bigjools: please tell me the bug number or subscribe me to that bug [09:08] mantiena: I will subscribe you when I've entered it [09:09] bigjools: thanks [09:10] de rien [09:52] quick q: can a superproject's name be a bzr lp:name ? or should I rename projects + supperprojects? [10:03] gmb: hi [10:03] philn: Hi. [10:03] philn: demo.lp.net should be okay for you to check things out on now. [10:04] philn: I'm ready to let let production import roll when you say so. [10:06] great.. i'll ask ppl to check once more [10:09] mpt, you're taking notes on the spit and polish session? [10:09] cody-somerville, yes, intrepid-spit-and-polish [10:10] mpt, Excellent. I'd love to review them afterwards. I wish I could be in that session but I need to be in the live cd memory requirements as Xubuntu's live cd doesn't meet our hardware target currently. [10:11] cody-somerville, you can still watch the gobby doc [10:11] Okay :) [10:11] (this discussion would belong better in #uds-desktop) [10:29] bigjools: are you soyuz developer ? [10:30] mantiena: yes [10:34] bigjools: what you think about bug 211223 [10:34] Launchpad bug 211223 in launchpad "Distributions can't register series (releases)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211223 [10:34] shouldn't this bug to be assigned to soyuz ? [10:35] mantiena: yes, it should, please do that [10:40] bigjools: What you think about quick solution, proposed by Colin Watson for this long standing issue? He proposes to add the possibility to register a milestone that doesn't have a series yet, and to move milestone to the series once it's registered. See bug #201623 for more info. [10:40] Launchpad bug 201623 in soyuz "Future milestone requires future distribution series, which is hard" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201623 [10:42] mantiena: you should talk to kiko about that, it's a managerial decision rather than a technical one [10:45] is there a way to bring ubottu to a new channel? [10:46] bigjools: maybe you know when kiko will be here ? [10:46] mantiena: he's at UDS, he may come online later [10:51] dhart: branches are associated with projects, not superprojects (project groups), so the branches have project based names [10:52] thumper: thanks, that's what I thought. I should probably submit requests to rename the projects and superprojects in question === salgado-afk is now known as salgado [12:54] philn: ask in #ubuntu-ops. [12:57] Hello can I get some help please. I setup ages ago a ~davmor2 which plugged into a dead hotmail account. The account I actually use is ~davmor2-gmail. Is there anyway I can transfer my davmor2-gmail to davmor2? Also I still don't seem to have my email alias setup but was wondering if it was setup to my old account? [12:58] davmor2: you can file a question, and get them merged. [12:59] Hobbsee: how and where please? [12:59] davmor2: /topic [13:00] davmor2: if it keeps expiring, you just have to keep hitting the "this is still a problem" button, until it gets actioned. [13:00] Thanks [13:01] np === Yhouse is now known as Yhouse[OFF] === spiv_ is now known as spiv [14:21] spiv: oops, you broke it. [14:21] * Hobbsee glances at it, and wonders what the hell happened. [14:22] * Hobbsee thought progress bars were supposed to go up, not up and down, too... [14:23] do we have any bzr'ers around, to see if they've seen this before? [14:24] I've noticed that with big branches. === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [14:25] oh, it's a bzr bug. we don't have the latest version in hardy. [14:26] wgrant: any chance you could SRU it? [14:26] bzr is in that other component. [14:26] And I've not hacked it to pieces before. [14:26] oh, bugger. [14:26] it is, too. [14:42] How do I delete a project? [14:42] And teams? [14:45] Dvyjones: what do you want to delete? you can't usually do that, but if it's a legitimate request you can ask the admins to do that [14:47] intellectronica: A project I created I while ago which is "cancelled" (phajax). [14:47] intellectronica: And the teams corresponding to that project [14:48] Dvyjones: why delete it? maybe someone else will pick it up [14:48] intellectronica: Then is it possible for me to leave it? [14:54] Is there any way to leave a project when I am the owner/administrator? Or do I have to appoint someone else? [14:54] Dvyjones: the latter. [14:55] they can be ~registry-admins, iirc, [14:59] ~registry-admins doesn't exist [15:00] ah, looks to be registry [15:02] So I should just change what to registry? [15:03] nvm, found it [15:06] Is there a way to remove myself as a driver after someone else took over the project? [16:10] Would this be "correct": Setting a team as the registrant on a project and me as driver? [16:11] Dvyjones, sure [16:25] philn: ping [16:25] pong [16:25] i got no feedback.. :/ let's assume it's good to go [16:28] gmb: milestones can be edited on bugs afterwards, right? [16:29] philn: Correct. [16:29] Kaleo is having a look at the import [16:34] Okay. [16:36] didn't notice any issue... let's get this done! :) [16:38] gmb: nice! [16:38] gmb: thanks for the work and enjoy uds :) [16:39] Kaleo: Glad you like it. :) [16:39] philn: I'll get the production import kicked off shortly. [16:41] bonjour [16:41] shht [16:42] thx [16:43] gmb: so much for the bug :) [16:44] Hobbsee: Yeah :S. [16:44] Hobbsee: So, the key is that we (the LP team) keep on top of and assign such items, which obviously we haven't been doing as efficiently as we need to. [16:44] gmb: yes, i presume so. [16:45] gmb: that's the only real solution, unless you awnt people demanding that you do their stuff on irc, or them moving awya from LP if their stuff doesn't get done. [16:45] both of which are suboptimal [16:45] Agreed. [16:46] Hobbsee: I'll bring this up at the meeting tomorrow night and make sure it's kept on top of. [16:46] gmb: good luck! [16:46] :_ [16:46] :) [16:46] blueprints is used for things that should be achieved in that version? Like, when all blueprints for 1.0 is achieved/implemented then release 1.0 [16:46] even [16:46] * Hobbsee recalls what happened to her last agenda point that got put on a meeting, and hopes you have better luck than that! === fta2 is now known as fta === fta is now known as fta-uds === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [17:27] philn: Import complete on production: http://bugs.launchpad.net/elisa [17:30] gmb: thx [17:31] philn: np. [17:31] Does launchpad have a linux distro feature (saw a list of distros somewhere on launchpad) === fdd-0 is now known as fdd === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [19:27] How do I get a super-project created? [19:39] Dvyjones: ask a question on the launchpad project [19:41] Ok, did so, do you know the average time to get it approved? [19:45] Dvyjones: quicker if you poke an lp-admin person [19:46] Who are lp-admins here? [19:47] * Dvyjones pokes the lp-admin that can do it :P [19:52] mthaddon: Can you make a project group? https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/33807 [19:52] Dvyjones, I think kiko is usually the one to do that, but let me check if I can [19:55] Or lifeless? [19:55] ok [19:55] Dvyjones: or SteveA [19:55] ty [19:55] Dvyjones, interesting request [19:55] this is really a distro === Rinchen` is now known as Rinchen [19:55] What is? [19:56] Dvyjones, the OS in a sense [19:56] do you have the irc client started yet in LP? [19:56] No, not yet [19:56] The OS isn't a linux distro if that is what you think? [19:56] You should do that. A project group with only one project is rather odd [19:57] ok [19:57] Right...I meant it in broader sense :-) You're sort of an edge case, which is cool. [19:59] Dvyjones, is Ignited Aire the successor of Woodpecker? [19:59] Woodpecker, is that registered? :P, Well, it is sorta :P [20:00] :-) [20:00] Rinchen: Wait, You are an OSDever? [20:00] btw, IRC client project registered [20:01] When I was at Uni, my software engineer class assignment was to build an OS. So I wrote one, from scratch, with my girlfriend at the time. We called it the M00seOS [20:01] the worst part was coding the filesystem [20:02] Yes, I still haven't made that complete, think I'm going for ext2, but it takes ages to do :S [20:04] Try doing it in Modula-2 :-) [20:04] We started in Fortran77, switched to Pascal, then Modula [20:04] :S Sounds hard [20:05] we didn't have a free C complier available to us then [20:05] Im doing C+Assembly :P [20:12] Rinchen: How did you know about Woodpecker? [20:17] mthaddon: Sorry to be pinging, but hows it going on th project? Updated the question with th project to be the children, if you need that. [20:18] Dvyjones, it's up to Rinchen - I have perms but it's typically kiko that does it, so I'd need to nod from Rinchen [20:18] s/need to nod/need a nod/ [20:18] ok [20:24] hi, back again [20:25] Dvyjones, mthaddon - the project group name should be distinct - none of the sub-projects should have the exact same name [20:25] so something like IgnitedAir for the group, IgnitedAirOS for the OS, IgnitedAirIRC for the IRC client, etc [20:26] Aside from that, the only criteria that I know kiko looks for are 1) is this actual software and 2) do you own it [20:26] manage it ... etc [20:26] thats what they are now, if im not wrong [20:30] how can I copy a package between different distro releases (e.g from hardy -> gutsy) within my ppa? [20:31] And I own the whole program, except for the SmartIrc4Net library used in the Irc client [20:31] Dvyjones, ok, we'll get you setup [20:31] :D [20:36] brb [20:37] Dvyjones, which user/team should be the owner? [20:39] mthaddon: ~ignitedair-team should be the owner [20:39] back, btw [20:39] Dvyjones, https://launchpad.net/ignitedair done [20:39] ty [20:40] Dvyjones, you should be able to add projects to that now - do you want me to add the two above, or will you do that? [20:40] (and you'll want to change the description/summary, etc.) [20:40] I can do it [20:40] cool [20:43] Then the projects are added to the group :D [20:52] And desc/summary is changed, now to work on the os :D [22:48] hi. how do I delete unwanted series, releases and milestones in Launchpad? [23:04] dhart: file a request at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad [23:09] stdin: thanks, I figure that out. :-) === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [23:17] hello, is the "register a blueprint" button gone? [23:28] Is there a problem with submitting bugs via email? I get no response at all === fta2 is now known as fta-uds