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LivingByPlanI am in desperate need of assistance.08:25
LivingByPlanI am in West Africa with a very poor internet connection so I am not able to do all the research I would like on my own.08:26
LivingByPlanI need some assistance in knowing how to upgrade from Edubuntu 7.04 to Edubuntu 8.04 without reinstalling from the CD.08:26
LivingByPlanIs there an upgrade path?08:26
LivingByPlanSorry if I have posted to the wrong group but finding the right one is difficult from here.08:27
johnnyuhmm.. you should be able to upgrade in the distro itself?08:28
johnnyvia the update manager08:28
LivingByPlanPlease, how do I make it look at the CD, or at another location, rather than going to the Internet to find the updates?08:31
bimberiLivingByPlan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes08:32
bimberiLivingByPlan: Note that the strongly recommended upgrade path is from 7.04->7.10 then 7.10->8.0408:33
LivingByPlanThanks I will take a look at this site.08:33
LivingByPlanI would follow that route, but still need to know how to make the upgrades without downloading the same files over and over from the internet on many computers.08:35
LivingByPlanThanks for the tip.08:35
johnnyLivingByPlan, you could setup one computer to serve up all the files to others08:36
LivingByPlanI am new to linux and to Ubuntu so need more information on how to do this.08:39
LivingByPlanIf anyone has available documentation for upgrading and would care to do so, they could email it to me at david.perry.ghana@gmail.com.08:40
LivingByPlanI would appreciate the assistance very much.08:40
stgraberogra_: How was yesterday's discussion with intel guys ?13:49
ogra_ah, well13:50
ogra_lots of HW changes ahead13:50
stgraberso lot of work to make all that working ?13:51
ogra_indeed13:51
ogra_i'll be in shanghaithe firts week of july to discuss software stuff13:52
stgraberthen fly to Portland ? busy month :)13:52
ogra_inbetween there is the distro sprint as well13:53
ogra_i'm ctually travelling 3 of 4 weeks13:54
stgraberoh, so one flight to London too :) very busy month13:54
ogra_well, actually a flight to london and moving on to portland13:55
RichEdstgraber: was that content server info okay ?14:37
RichEdi'm about to check your presentation14:37
stgraberwell, I can probably make a slide from that, the main problem is that I never used moodle myself except on their demo website :)14:39
RichEdstgraber: let me send you a moodle presentation as well ... you will be able to get some high leve info off that14:39
stgrabercool14:39
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RichEdstgraber: sented the mail15:38
stgraberRichEd: thanks16:42
RichEdstgraber: cool ... that is quite a nice presentation ... hope it goes well for youi16:43
monteslu_ogra, you around?17:18
monteslu_anyone else ?17:19
monteslu_my terminals are getting kicked out upon login17:19
monteslu_just started happening yesterday17:19
stgrabercan you define "kicked out" please ?17:20
stgraberauthentication error ?17:20
monteslu_dont think so, but its possible17:20
monteslu_i log in, then black screen, then ¨x¨, then back to login screen17:20
monteslu_its ubuntu 7.0417:21
monteslu_edubuntu17:21
monteslu_i can log into the server without problem17:21
monteslu_actually 2 servers against an openldap server17:21
stgraberok, I was thinking of the recent ssl/ssh security bug, did you do the security update recently ?17:22
monteslu_no, i havent17:22
stgraberok, because that'll likely create new ssh keys and needs a ltsp-update-sshkeys17:22
stgraberso if you haven't it's probably something else17:23
monteslu_OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-8ubuntu1.4, OpenSSL 0.9.8c 05 Sep 200617:23
monteslu_thatś the version im on17:23
monteslu_is there any way to test if thatś out of sync?17:23
stgraberok, it's the broken one, so it's not the issue but you should do the security upgrade anyway17:24
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stgraberhttp://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-612-217:25
monteslu_i probably dont have time to fix that part this morning, can do the ssh update this evening17:26
monteslu_any other way to tell why the terminals arent connecting?17:26
stgraberif it's an issue when starting gnome you may have some debug informations in the .xsession-errors file in the user home dir17:27
monteslu_just tried the startkde session and got the same result17:28
monteslu_black screen, x, then back to login17:28
stgraberok, you could try to do this :17:29
stgraberstart a standard workstation in a failsafe X session (so only a terminal)17:29
stgraberstart : ssh -X user@server17:29
stgraberthen start : gnome-session or the KDE equivalent17:29
stgraberthat's basically what LDM does so it may helps you debug the issue17:30
monteslu_whole bunch of pulseaudio errors17:32
monteslu_and stuff like: ** (nm-applet:6732): WARNING **: <WARNING>       nma_dbus_init (): nma_dbus_init() could not acquire its service.  dbus_bus_acquire_service() says: 'Connection ":1.15" is not allowed to own the service "org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo" due to security policies in the configuration file'17:33
stgraberand that makes the session to crash and restart ?17:35
stgraberit's supposed to be only a warning (the thin clients have pulse correctly set up)17:35
monteslu_im not sure, was that supposed to fire up another instance of gnome locally?17:36
stgraberyes17:36
stgraberthat's what ldm does, connect using ssh -X (X redirection) and start gnome-session17:36
monteslu_could you give me that command again?17:39
monteslu_trying it from kde to start gnome-session17:39
stgraberssh -X user@server17:41
stgraberthen : gnome-session17:41
stgraberI guess ldm uses /etc/X11/Xsession or something similar but the result is supposed to be the same17:41
monteslu_that worked17:42
monteslu_gnome is running on top of kde17:42
monteslu_kinda wierd17:42
stgraberok, so your problem is related to your thin client/ltsp chroot then17:43
monteslu_any idea how to troublshoot that?17:44
monteslu_i dont even know where to look17:44
monteslu_stuff was easier for me to understand in ltsp 4 :)17:44
stgraberUbuntu 7.04 is still NFS or already NBD ?17:45
monteslu_dont know17:46
monteslu_im using nfs for the homes17:46
monteslu_but thats on a fedora server17:46
stgraberls -lh /opt/ltsp/images/17:46
stgraberthat will fail if it's using nfs17:46
monteslu_yeah, no such directory17:47
stgraberok, can you do : ltsp-update-sshkeys and try again with a client17:47
stgraberI don't think it'll fix anything as you haven't done the security update but maybe another reason made the ssh keys to be out of sync17:48
monteslu_that worked!17:48
monteslu_should i do that from both of my ltsp servers?17:48
stgraberI think so yes17:48
stgraber(can't hurt anyway)17:48
monteslu_hmm, didnt fix the second box, but at least the lab is up now :)17:50
monteslu_and i can go to work17:50
monteslu_wish i could be at the school full time17:50
monteslu_thanks for the help!17:51
stgrabernp17:52
sixty6murphhi, is edubuntu designed specifically for a teacher/pupil environment or is it suitable for unsupervised, undirected home use?19:10
sixty6murphi want to set up an old machine for a 6 and 8 year old to use by themselves...19:11
johnnyedubuntu is just an addon cd now19:44
johnnyyou can use ubuntu and add the same packages on the internet19:44
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