/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/05/22/#kubuntu.txt

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christianWazzup?00:09
reeseif I upgrade to kubuntu hardy with kde4, all packages on my current kde 3.5.9 will continue to work?00:18
kgxreese: you can select which kde to log into, so yes00:19
kgxit'll act like a completely different window manager00:20
kgxis anyone using kubuntu on sony vaio? any problems with it? my boss wants to give me a vaio (except i hate reflective screens) so im thinking whether to get it or not00:20
reesekgx: so if I log in with kde4, I won't be able use the packages installed on kde3?00:21
Dragnslcrreese- you don't have to upgrade anything, just install kubuntu-kde4-desktop00:21
Dragnslcrreese- KDE4 shouldn't have any trouble running anything that works in KDE300:21
Itakuwb!00:36
stdinItaku: I think icecast is a shoutcast server, if that's what you're looking for00:36
Itakui got the server...00:38
Itakulooking for a program to broadcast to it00:38
geniioddcast or so00:39
NikLPvlc any good on linux? :/00:43
BluesKajyup00:43
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NikLPglad to hear, I'm installing my first kU  right now00:43
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NikLPinside VirtualPC, yuk (sorry!)00:44
BluesKajplays most media files without any probs00:44
NikLPgotta love it :)00:44
NikLPand streams, of course ;)00:44
NikLPjust hope it installs this time00:45
NikLPkU that is00:45
BluesKajamarok plays streams well , actaually easier to use than VLC in my experience00:45
lukaszi must choose in KDE default display manager :gdm or kdm?00:45
BluesKajkdm00:45
NikLPif I ain't seen it, it's new to me! :)00:46
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* genii sips00:47
lukaszit not works ;/00:47
lukasz                                                                        ↑00:47
lukasz  │  No configuration:                                                      ▒00:47
lukasz  │   Should be chosen to leave the current configuration unchanged.        ▒00:47
lukasz  │  Internet site:00:47
BluesKajNikLP, VLC has a streaming wizard , but I haven't used it much00:48
NikLPI just set it up to stream something the other day and received it in WMP, it took me like 2mins to set up, what a dream :)00:50
kgxwhat do you guys use for laptop power management? guidance is too simple00:50
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NikLPkeep it plugged in :)00:52
dac_how do you get your email and passwords encryped?00:56
dac_?msg dac_ now _a61_01:03
dac_dac_/msg now _a61_01:04
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[Relic]where can I find when the next kernel version is coming out or estimated?01:15
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Hechicera1973hi everyone01:17
Hechicera1973can anyone help me with sound configuration in ubuntu?01:20
billydWhat kind of sound card or chip is it?01:21
Hechicera1973well, actually i have 201:22
Hechicera1973one install on the board01:22
Hechicera1973and the other, a pc C-media01:22
Hechicera1973C-mdia IEC95801:22
billydThere is a Sound configuration/Troublleshooting  space in Ubuntu website01:23
billydJust one minute01:23
Hechicera1973would you please tell me the link?01:23
billydhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting01:24
billydI had trouble with ALC chip - Intel-HDA and it has caused lots of problems01:25
billydGoing to 8.04 seemed to cure the problems01:25
DragnslcrAnyone know why'd I get an error from Adept that it can't install package, but there's nothing showing up in /var/log/dpkg.log01:25
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Hechicera1973yes i have th 9.0401:27
Hechicera19738.04 i mean01:27
Hechicera1973well, i am going to read the troubleshooting01:27
Hechicera1973thanks for your help01:27
billydThat URL has a step by step trouble shooting procedure on it01:27
Dragnslcrapt-get install says that the package can't be authenticated01:28
nathan__After I have downloaded a compressed file of a program, how do I turn it into a program? If that makes sense...01:28
[Relic]Hechicera1973, are you trying to use both sound cards at once?01:28
nathan__I am trying to get GnuPG from here http://www.gnupg.org/download/01:29
DragnslcrOkay, never mind that issue. New question: how can I get the DNS servers that I enter in the manual network configuration to not be lost on boot?01:29
Dragnslcr(stupid Comcast)01:30
DragnslcrAnd has anyone else gotten QtParted to work? It won't even start for me01:31
nathan__I know how to extract it, I just don't know what to do after that.01:32
[Relic]go into the dir and read the instructions normally in README or similar spelled file01:33
nathan__Do I also need the "Signature and SHA-1 checksum"01:34
[Relic]did you search the gnupg site for installation or compiling instructions?01:35
Hechicera1973thank you billyd01:35
Hechicera1973i have to reboot01:35
Hechicera1973bye01:35
nathan__What does "Unpack the tarball." mean?01:38
nathan__do I type "tar xzvf gnupg-x.y.z.tar.gz" into the command line?01:39
DragnslcrGParted is so ugly compared to QtParted01:44
DragnslcrIf only QtParted actually worked...01:44
BluesKajwell, ugly maybe , but after it works , it looks so much better :)01:47
adudei just install 8.04 server where can i get info how to use it?01:49
DragnslcrWhen it comes to partition disks, working will always beat pretty01:49
NikLPDragnslcr: just this second got my login screen up in colour, under VPC2k7 :) it needed more disk :p01:55
NikLPI was burning stuff off and deleting it while the installer was running, it was pretty damn close :p01:56
DragnslcrNice01:58
psycocan anyone help me install cedega on kubuntu02:04
BidoofThey offer a .deb on their site02:04
psycoI run it but Gdebi just closes after a while...02:05
psycoand then there is no update on my menu (KDE3)02:05
Bidoofyou try installing it through the terminal?02:07
psyconope, Bidoof, what is the command?02:07
Bidoofsudo dpkg -i cedegadebfile02:08
psycoty02:08
psycoYay02:10
Bidoofit worked?02:10
psycoYup02:10
psycothanks02:10
Bidoofanytime02:10
rysiek|plguys, if I want to install kde4 on my hardy so that I can choose the session (KDE3/KDE4) in KDM during logging-in, do I install kde4 or kubuntu-kde4-desktop package?02:10
Dragnslcrkubuntu-kde4-desktop02:11
ElecNinjaOh, what should I use to encrypt a partition that will be used for both windows and linux?02:12
rysiek|plDragnslcr: kthx02:12
BidoofTrueCrypt02:13
BidoofI've been having issues with bsods in XP though02:13
Bidoofso YMMV02:13
ForzaPalermohey anywhere i can download packages for kde 4.1 alpha?02:14
ElecNinjaAnd from the respositories, what do I install for truecrypt in kubuntu?02:14
BidoofI don't think it's in the repos02:15
BidoofI just checked online02:15
Bidoofhttp://www.truecrypt.org/downloads.php\02:15
BidoofThere's an option there for a .deb02:16
dwidmann_laptopWhat in the world is up with the Xine engine in H.H.??02:16
BluesKajdwidmann_laptop, what do you mean ?02:17
ForzaPalermohey anywhere i can download packages for kde 4.1 alpha?02:18
BidoofI don't think kubuntu has a repo for it02:19
Bidoofyou'd have to download and compile it02:19
ElecNinjaYeah, but when I install it, it says that "I might experience low performance" with "a bugh in some linux kernals"02:19
ElecNinjabug*02:19
ElecNinjaBut, I don't know if that's a relevent warning message or not, as I have upgraded to the lasts linux kernal that the repos give me.02:20
BluesKajkde4.1 is not available cuz it's not ready , even as an alpha :)02:20
ForzaPalermoi thought someone may have created packages02:20
BidoofTruecrypt needs a 2.6.5 kernel (or higher/compatible) with both device mapper and loop device enabled. Make sure that the kernel is configured as follows:02:20
BidoofI think you should be set02:21
Bidoofwait02:21
Bidoofare you running 8.04 or 7.1002:22
ElecNinjaI updated from a clean install of 7.10 to 8.0402:22
NikLPsooo I have no network connectivity under VPC... any thoughts?02:24
dwidmann_laptopBluesKaj: doesn't seem to like working for me in H.H. ... makes me want to kick it.02:25
BidoofI don't know02:26
BidoofIt may or may not be slow02:26
Bidoofhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766731&page=202:26
BidoofI think that's the only cross platform drive encryption02:27
BidoofBut you could use KGPG and PGP02:27
ElecNinjaI'll try truecrypt. Thanks.02:29
BidoofNo problem02:29
ElecNinjaOh, I'm just curious, what is this message? "QSettings: failed to open file '/etc/qt3/qt_plugins_3.3rc'" It never seems to affect anything, but it appears quite a lot.02:30
JucatoBluesKaj: btw, in case you didn't see what I said earlier (apparently my IRC weirded out on me), KDE 4.1 alpha 1 was released a while back02:31
BluesKajJucato, too bad , more damage to the unsuspecting early adopters setups :)02:32
Jucatono packages for Kubuntu though. so no worries there :)02:33
DragnslcrMaybe 4.1 will have the functionality back from 3.5...02:33
NikLPuh, where is the "administrator mode" button, that I'm being pointed to...??02:34
BidoofThat's what it's supposed to add02:34
JucatoDragnslcr: Plasma is the only one with that problem to face. almost everything else works great and is adding features, not adding "back" features :)02:35
DragnslcrHeh02:35
DragnslcrLast time I tried 4.0, I don't think the taskbar had a context menu yet02:35
BidoofYeah02:36
Jucatotaskbar = Plasma02:36
DragnslcrWhich makes it a bit tough to configure02:36
BidoofYou still can't change its size02:36
Jucatoum. actually you can now (4.1)02:36
Jucatoit's weird how to do it, but kinda amusing too02:36
DragnslcrPlease tell me that the hideous new KMenu isn't the default02:36
Jucato(what's missing is moving widgets on the panel around...)02:36
JucatoDragnslcr: still the default. right-click to change02:37
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BluesKajwidget - schmidgets ...what a silly concept02:37
DragnslcrIs it worth trying 4.0.4, or should I just wait for 4.1 at this point?02:37
Bidoofyeah02:37
Jucatoimho, wait for 4.102:37
BidoofWait for 4.102:37
* genii ponders plasmatosis02:37
Dragnslcr4.1 is due in July?02:38
BidoofI think so02:38
Daisuke_IdoDragnslcr: yes, kickoff is the default, depressing as it is02:38
Bidoofhttp://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080430-first-look-kde-4-1-alpha-1-very-promising.html02:38
JucatoBluesKaj: it's not really that silly. consider gnome-panel and kicker... everything there are just applets. what plasma "tries" (whether they succeed or not is another question) is make those "applets" common to both the "desktop" and the "panel"... instead of having separate and totally different ones like in KDE 302:39
BluesKajJucato, I have to admit that concept still confuses me and I don't understand how to move them around between the panel and the desktop02:40
JucatoBluesKaj: hence the "tries" in my sentence :)02:41
DragnslcrWhat do I need to set for my normal user account to have write permission to a mounted disk?02:41
Jucato**hat plasma "tries" (whether they succeed or not is another question)**02:41
BluesKaj:)02:41
Jucatos/hat/that/02:41
Jucatoin any case, Plasma is almost a start from scratch and revolutionary (not evolutionary) implementation, so it will really need time to mature... **I hope** :D02:42
Jucato"widgets" is really just a fancy/Web 2.0 way of calling applets... blame OS X and Opera :)02:43
DragnslcrI remember the days when "widget" actually meant something...02:43
Jucatoit still does... at least for us GUI programmers :P02:43
Jucatonow it's just overloaded02:44
Jucatoaaaanyway... I guess the conv should have been in #kubuntu-kde4 :P02:44
DragnslcrHeh02:44
DragnslcrCopying old Windows files to a new hard drive so I can turn the old one into a RAID mirror is so much fun02:45
gwpIs there a linux version of Katia and Autocad?02:53
Jucato!info qcad02:53
ubottuqcad (source: qcad): A professional CAD System. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.5.0-1-2ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 2954 kB, installed size 12648 kB02:53
gwpsweet02:54
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psycoAnyone installed Warcraft III frozen throne on cedega?02:54
Jucatoyou'll probably want to ask in a cedega channel02:55
gwpWoW is better02:56
Bidoofgive me a second02:56
psycogwp: Pft got bored of WoW02:56
Bidoofthey have a little list02:56
psycoBidoof: List of what?02:56
Bidoofcompatable games02:57
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psycoBidoof: I know its compatible02:57
BidoofOkay02:57
psycoBidoof: I just want to know if anyone got my problem, It gets stuck on the frozen throne loading screen.02:58
BidoofOk02:58
Dragnslcrpsyco- I've run it on vanilla Wine without any trouble, other than the sound being a bit out of sync03:00
NikLP_quickstart?03:00
NikLP_oh you don't have bots on here I suppose (d'oh)03:00
psycoDragnslcr: Vanilla wine?03:00
JucatoNikLP_: hm?03:01
DragnslcrAs in plain Wine with nothing else (e.g. Cedega)03:01
psycoOh03:01
Dragnslcr!quickstart | NikLP_03:01
ubottuFactoid quickstart not found03:01
NikLP_I'm looking for a quickstart video or something, I'm WAY out of touch...03:01
NikLP_Dragnslcr: gotcha03:01
psycoDragnslcr: I tried wine but it wans't working to well. I couldn't get past installing TFT03:01
racquadhi there.03:02
racquadI have just installed kubuntu-desktop on my regular ubuntu installation03:02
Dragnslcrpsyco- it's been a while, but I got it working at one point03:02
DragnslcrI don't remember if I had to do anything weird03:02
racquadbut the kde has a strange behaviour.03:02
BidoofWhat does it do?03:02
racquadit takes a little to draw the K-menu, for instance.03:02
psycoDragnslcr: lol ok, I'll try wine again tomorrow.03:02
racquadwhen i pass the mouse over a drop down menu, it flicks a lot before I can click on it03:03
BidoofGraphical acceleration issues?03:03
racquadBidoof: maybe03:03
racquaddo you know how can I disable it?03:04
racquadI mean, I was using compiz on my gnome desktop. Does it has anything to do with this kde issue?03:04
gwphow come when I install programs in KDE4 they dont install to the kicker, I have to search for them to run them?03:04
mhz128yo yo yo03:04
BidoofIt might03:04
BidoofWhat version of KDE03:05
Bidoof3 or 403:05
racquad303:05
BidoofI don't know, I have KDE 4 and occaisionally have an issue like that03:06
racquadThe strange thing is that this happens only at my laptop. on my desktop, kde runs smooth03:07
NikLP_hm I'm getting a lot of key skipping (virtual pc) - is that something simple I can change03:08
epimethwhat up peeps?03:09
NikLP_I think a lot of these apparently stupid Qs would be sorted if I could get the damn screen size big enough :p03:09
epimethanybody know where I can find a seem editor for my motorola v3m?03:09
mhz128I've got nvidia-settings manager installed and changed my refresh rate to 60 hz. Is there a manual way of detecting what it's actually set at? I dont think its really running at 60hz... =p03:11
lonranhi all03:13
lonranis there an oxygen style/theme for kde3?03:14
EmChow do you partition and install an encrypted home directory03:17
geniiEmC: I've used this method before from livecd with alterations to step 2 for partitioning scheme and other minor stuff. It's for the whole thing though not just /home  http://www.cs278.org/blog/ubuntu-configuration/feisty-debootstrap-encrypted-install/03:21
geniiYou can adapt to suit03:21
EmCok, i just finished downloading the alternate cd03:21
EmCis that after you install kubuntu?03:23
geniiEmC: No, it's another way to install.03:24
EmCok03:24
Armagguedeshello03:25
EmChas anyone installed kubuntu on am xps m1330? successfuly03:25
nate_HELLO ALL, i am having a hell of a time tring to figure out how to get my wireless mouse to work with GRUB.  it works fine to get into bios,,,,03:25
geniiEmC: You install the debootstrap into the livecd then go from there with the instructions, modifying as needed. I used the livecd partioner for instance instead of the manual way he has, etc etc03:25
Armagguedescan i have a suggestion for a SIP client (for use with voipbuster)=03:25
NikLP_thanks for your help guys :)03:26
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NikLP_ciao03:26
geniinate_: grub doesn't have some mouse-enabled interface03:28
nate_genii:i meant the wireless keyboard03:30
epimethanybody know where I can find a seem editor for my motorola v3m?03:31
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nathan__im trying to install this program, I extracted it, then went to the command line and cd to the folder just like the readme said. Then the readme says to type "make" so I did. It said "No targets specified and no makefile found. What do I do?03:31
geniinate03:32
geniibah03:32
Jucatoare you still trying to compile gnupg?03:33
nathan__yes03:33
geniinate_: Check bios to make sure usb keyboard is enabled or ps2 keyboard emulation enabled, etc03:33
Jucatonathan__: is there something wrong with our gnupg packages?03:33
nate_genii: i will try that, thanks03:34
nathan__well the website said not to use the ubuntu one. That it was old and wasn't updated regularly or something. I don't know if they know what they're talking about or not.03:34
Jucato!compile | nathan__03:35
ubottunathan__: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)03:35
nzkHmm, apt isn't updating Firefox to RC1.03:35
geniinzk: The firefox update lock setting is in /usr/lib/firefox-3.0b5/firefox.cfg03:38
Dragnslcrnzk- I don't think there's a package for RC1 in the repository yet03:40
MachinTrucChosehi03:41
epimethMachinTrucChose: hi :-)03:41
Armagguedesnzk,  no it's still at b5 in the repos03:41
MachinTrucChosehaven't used Kubuntu since KDE 3.5...can someone tell me if the Options are less..."overwhelming" in KDE4? I don't mean the amount, I mean the organization in the K Panel or whatever it wsa called.03:42
geniiMachinTrucChose: Currently they are using a Vista-like kmenu system03:48
geniiSome like it some don't03:49
epimethMachinTrucChose: also, kde4 isn't exactly ready for public consumption... at least afaik03:49
Jucatogenii: "vista-like"? O.o03:49
Jucato(that's kinda unfair considering it was developed before vista's menu afaik)03:50
labudhi03:50
Jucatokickoff has been in KDE 3.5 openSUSE way before KDE 4 adopted it03:50
labudcan anyone direct me to a channel for help on ubuntu03:51
geniiJucato: Well, thats the simplest way to explain it without arguing chicken-egg stuff03:51
labudubuntu/kubuntu03:51
Jucatolabud: this is #kubuntu03:51
Jucato#ubuntu is for Ubuntu (GNOME). this one's for the KDE version03:52
labudi need some help in finding out where to look for my dvd device and how it is listed03:52
labudi am using kde03:52
o_what is those combinetion of button to let you do like window vista ?alt +tab?03:53
labudwhen i go to system settings/advanced/disk and file systems   i see my dvd burner  listed as /dev/fdo03:54
labudbut it says it is disabled03:55
geniilabud: Do you have a floppy disk drive at all?03:56
labudi can play dvd files  [.avi and .vob]  but i cannot burn a dvd03:56
labudon my machine  yes03:56
geniilabud: Does the file dev/scd0 exist on your computer?03:57
labudthere is none listed in my disk and file systems window03:57
geniilabud: Does the file /dev/scd0 exist on your computer?            (missed a / before dev there)03:57
labudnot in the disk and file systems window    shud i look elsewhere?03:58
geniilabud: in Konsole, what does command:       ls -l /dev/dvd                     report?03:58
labudno such file or directory03:59
geniilabud: how about: ls -l /dev/cd03:59
geniilabud: If no there either, then fd0 which it currently thinks it is04:00
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labudsame thing   no such file or directory04:00
nflava_anyone know of a good package that will let my use my tv capture card?04:02
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word|awayNickPresta: tsk, someone is using my nick so i had to switch to an already identified one so it'd be easier to ghost it04:37
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godkasthis is my config.log from running ./configure for libmirage http://pastebin.ca/102556004:39
godkasi noticed some errors anyone think they can lend a guess?04:40
thevDoes TOP report usage on a per core basis?04:40
thevIE %95 percent is acutally %95 of one core04:40
thevI just saw it report %199 so I'm thinking that's what's up04:41
sparrwhats the name of that program that can find music track information by actually "listening" to the audio?04:43
Jucatomusicbrainz or something?04:44
Jucatonah..04:44
geniithev: That seems to be how mine works. When I hit 1 to show both cores #1 is at some high number and #2 a low number til #1 tops out then it kicks in04:45
thevgenii - I'm just wondering what's up with UFRAW.  Seems like it's only using one core on my C2D, but on my X2 it routinely spikes over %10004:48
geniithev: I have no immediate explanation or theory04:48
thevI'm converting thousands (literally) of images, so I want to squeeze the most out of it04:48
p_quarlessparr, Jucato: yes, MusicBrainz is the one04:48
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byonix_hi, my sound doesn't work how do i resolve it?05:00
byonix_hi, my sound doesn't work how do i resolve it?05:01
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geniibyonix_: Perhaps consult !sound factoid of the bot. If you have an intel HDA card you may need to also look up !intelhda factoid05:05
byonix_genii:excuse me?you mean, i type !intelhda factoid, indeed i use intel card05:07
genii!intelhda05:07
ubottuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto05:07
geniieg05:07
dthackersparr: picard attempt to match tracks to known profiles05:07
byonix_!intelhda05:07
ubottuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto05:08
geniibyonix_: Apologies for brevity. Long day05:08
byonix_thanks05:08
navetz__can somebody tell me how to reinstall apache2, including the config files and everything.05:10
dthackernavetz_: why do you want to do that?05:12
navetz__dthacker: because I can't connect to localhost offline05:14
dthackernavetz__: what do the apache error logs say?05:15
navetz__dthacker: I have tried a lot of different things but I think my only option is to completly reinstlaled05:16
navetz__dthacker: error logs don't say anything except favicon errors05:16
dthackernavetz__: is apache running?  "ps -ef | grep apache205:18
dthacker" will tell you.05:18
dthackerps -ef | grep apache205:18
navetz__dthacker: yes it is, localhost works when I am online, just not offline05:20
dthackernavetz__: what do you consider "offline"?05:21
navetz__dthacker: no internet connection05:21
navetz__dthacker: I am on wireless and when I turn of my wireless card05:21
navetz__dthacker: I can no longer go on locahost05:21
dthackernavetz__: can you ping localhost when your wireless is off?05:22
navetz__dthacker: I don't think so, I just reinstalled apache so I'll try it again05:23
dthackernavetz__: if you can't resolve localhost properly, no service will respond to it.05:23
navetz__dthacker: Hi, yea I can ping localhost when I am offline05:25
navetz__dthacker: when I try to access it thorugh a browser though, it wont work.05:25
dthackernavetz__: what are you putting in your browser?05:26
frybye!kde405:27
ubottuKDE 4.0.4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde405:27
navetz__dthacker: ok, when I restart apache it goes to address 127.0.1.105:27
navetz__but both 127.0.1.1 and 127.0.0.1 work05:27
navetz__also I noticed that there is a new ip address under eth0 for me05:28
navetz__and that ip is 169.254.6.15005:28
navetz__and that also works to go to my root directory in apache05:28
dthackernavetz__: 169.254.x.x is a default address assigned when the OS can't find a network.05:29
navetz__dthacker: oh, ok05:29
navetz__dthacker: well do you have any idea how I can fix this05:29
navetz__dthacker: I have tried so much, and nothing has worked yet05:29
dthackerso what doesn't work?  http://localhost ?05:30
navetz__dthacker: right now it does, but when my internet is off, nothing does05:30
dthackernavetz__: please verify.  If you are not connected to the network.  http://localhost does not work.05:32
navetz__dthacker: yes that is correct, http://localhost does not work, 127.0.0.1 and 127.0.1.1 don't work either05:33
dthackerhmmmm05:34
EaudeHello05:36
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navetz__dthacker: no ideas?05:36
EaudeI need help installing Widgits and theme in Kubuntu05:36
dthackerIf you can ping them when you are offline, but you can't connect to them with apache, then you need to check your apache config files to make sure they are listening05:37
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navetz__dthacker: Yea, I tried that but I am not to sure what I am doing.05:37
dthackernavetz__: take the apache config down to the default file, make sure that works, and build back out from there.05:38
navetz__dthacker: thats what I am trying to do by removeing apache and installing it again, but it doesn't seem to be working.05:39
dthackerlook at /etc/apache2/sites-available/default05:39
navetz__dthacker: alright05:39
navetz__dthacker: what am I looking for?05:40
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dthackernavetz__: what I mean is disable all your virtual hosts except for the default.05:42
navetz__dthacker: ah ok05:42
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navetz__dthacker: I think the default file for me only has virtual hosts05:43
dthackerthen navetz__: have you configured any other virtual hosts except for the default?05:44
navetz__dthacker: not on purpose (I found this online and think it might be a good way to go)05:44
navetz__dpkg -P apache2-common apache205:44
navetz__apt-get install apache2-common apache205:44
dthackerok, try that. then check if apache is started or not.05:45
fenixHola a todos05:47
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fenixalguien puede ayudarme con la instalacion de una webcam05:47
flaccid!webcam | fenix05:47
ubottufenix: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras05:47
flaccid!english05:48
ubottuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat05:48
navetz__dthacker: If i request reinstall through adept, will it also purge then reinstall?05:49
antonio_hi guys05:49
fenixhi05:49
dthackerdon't know, never tried re-install through adept05:49
antonio_can I ask something about konqueror?05:49
antonio_it's first time in irc05:50
antonio_not sure how it works!05:50
se7en_!ask05:50
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)05:50
flaccid!apache05:50
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)05:50
antonio_i'm using hardy 8.04 (kde 3.5.9), but i'm unable to use konqueror and flash05:51
se7en_!flash05:51
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash05:51
p_quarlesantonio_, have you installed konqueror-nsplugins ?05:52
antonio_yes05:52
antonio_nsplugins installed05:52
antonio_even pointed konqueror to the right flash folder05:53
antonio_in fact i "have" flash in the plugin05:53
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flaccidantonio_: what actually happens05:53
antonio_just nothing05:53
antonio_i cannot see any flash image or video05:53
p_quarleswow -- some aggressive netsplits going on there . . .05:53
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p_quarlesantonio_, is there anything in place of where the video ought to be?05:54
antonio_yes05:55
antonio_blank space05:55
p_quarleshave you tested it in other browsers (firefox, e.g.)05:55
flaccidantonio_: kubuntu version?05:55
antonio_or some red symbol (a circle with a stripe)05:55
antonio_yes05:55
antonio_it works fine in firefox05:55
fenixi'm programing on PHP, but i do this on windows, then i want change for linux, but i dont know how begin whit this step of migration05:56
antonio_it seems as if konqueror sees the plugins05:56
flaccidfenix: migrating what exactly?05:56
antonio_but it does not use it05:56
p_quarlesantonio_, you scanned for plugins in the konqueror settings?05:56
flaccidantonio_: is flashplugin-nonfree installed?05:56
antonio_yes05:56
antonio_yes05:56
antonio_is there05:56
p_quarlesantonio_, 32-bit or 64-bit?05:57
flaccidantonio_: ls -l /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so please05:57
antonio_32-bit05:57
antonio_-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8115888 2008-05-19 01:40 /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so05:58
fenixflaccid: of the tools for develoment05:58
flaccid!lamp | fenix05:58
ubottufenix: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)05:58
antonio_i had a similar problem in gutsy05:58
flaccidantonio_: that seems fine. run konqueror from konsole then goto a flash page, then observer stdout in konsole when it loads05:58
antonio_Improper call to JPEG library in state 20206:01
antonio_Unable to read JPEG data06:01
antonio_that's what i have06:01
antonio_but what about file association in konqueror?06:01
fenixmmm, not about of the services, more focus to desing, for example on windows exist dreamweaver that is wonderful, but on linux which can i use?06:02
flaccidantonio_: pastebin lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep flashplugin please06:02
fenixi dont speak english, i'm terrible:S, excuse me06:02
p_quarlesantonio_, file association shouldn't have anything to do with it, so long as you have plugins loaded on demand06:02
antonio_i have for x-shockwave-flash, embedding=netscape plugin viewer06:02
flaccidfenix: quanta06:02
antonio_i don't have plugin loaded on demand06:03
p_quarlesantonio_, try that?06:03
antonio_but i can try06:03
flaccidantonio_: also locate libflashplayer.so06:03
antonio_No LSB modules are available.06:04
antonio_Distributor ID: Ubuntu06:04
antonio_Description:    Ubuntu 8.0406:04
antonio_Release:        8.0406:04
antonio_Codename:       hardy06:04
antonio_Linux antonio 2.6.24-17-generic #1 SMP Thu May 1 14:31:33 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux06:04
antonio_ii  flashplugin-nonfree                        9.0.124.0ubuntu2                                   Adobe Flash Player plugin installer06:04
flaccid!pastebin | antonio_06:04
ubottuantonio_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:04
flaccidkde3 or kde4 and which version of konqueror?06:05
antonio_sorry06:05
p_quarlesflaccid, he already said -- scroll back06:05
flaccidrightio06:06
antonio_locate result is /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so06:06
flaccidwell in my version of that i get crash w/ signal 11. flash doesn't work because of that06:06
p_quarlesantonio_, sorry, "on-demand" I was confusing with something else -- I meant "enable plugins globally" -- you have that on?06:07
antonio_yes06:07
p_quarlesantonio_, well, sounds like you've done all the obvious stuff, so umm . . .06:07
antonio_in gutsy, for a long time i was unable to effectively load plugins, that was solved by an update06:07
p_quarlesmaybe install the tarball from the Flash web site?06:08
fenixflaccid: quanta have support for PHP06:08
antonio_it seems like konqueror does not "really" load my plugins06:08
p_quarlesfenix, Quanta has support for more languages than you shake a stick at06:08
flaccidantonio_: i think we need to remove the netscape in plugins settings and just use the nonfree06:08
flaccidfenix: not sure. use eclipse for an IDE..06:09
antonio_what do you mean?06:09
p_quarlesantonio_, similar things happen with Sun Java?06:09
antonio_not really06:09
antonio_that works good06:09
flaccidantonio_: i changed it, but same result06:09
p_quarlesso it works with Java, just not with Flash? if that's right, then at least one NS plugin is working06:10
antonio_i use a website for uni that use java06:10
antonio_so i think it works06:10
flaccidantonio_: i tried everything, could not get it to work in konqueror 3, but it works in konqueror 4.0.3. i can successfully load http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/06:11
p_quarlesantonio_, and you're not getting the "this site requires the latest version of flash" message?06:12
antonio_trying now on a java website06:12
flaccidnspluginviewer crashes with signal 11 in konq 306:12
antonio_not working at all!06:12
antonio_but konqueror does not crash06:12
p_quarleshmm, well I've been using Flash and Konqueror 3.5.x for some time now, so it definitely works06:12
antonio_so is a problem of ns_plugins?06:13
romunovgrrr ,kpdf won't stop printing two pages on one side, even though i selected one page per sheet06:13
flaccidantonio_: im on the same versions as you..06:14
p_quarlesantonio_, I would give the Adobe installer a try -- uninstall the Ubuntu package and give that a try06:14
p_quarlesthe main difference is that it will install the Flash player for only the current user -- might make a difference06:15
antonio_ok06:15
antonio_i'll try later06:15
flaccidp_quarles: he could just copy the file06:15
antonio_copy the file?06:15
flaccidyes06:15
p_quarlesor that, but the installer puts it in the right place automatically06:15
flaccidbut no need06:15
flaccidgoto configure konqueror | plugins06:16
flaccidunder netscape plugins goto Plugins tab06:16
antonio_ok06:16
flaccidin the value colum see what the path is for the plugin library06:16
antonio_i have seven paths06:18
antonio_one is for flashplugin-nonfree06:18
flaccidyou want to add /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree to the top of the directories and re-scan06:18
antonio_is already there06:18
antonio_on top06:19
antonio_just scanned06:19
antonio_no changes06:19
flaccidok well flash only works in konqueror 4 in my hardy. you could submit a bug..06:19
antonio_just to be sure, but should i have some plugin related to netscape?06:20
flaccidnspluginviewer is the wrapper that loads the plugin06:20
flaccidfor flash06:20
antonio_because i only have flashplugin-nonfree, libflash-mozplugin, libvlcplugin and 4 mplayerplugin06:21
flaccidflash plugin is essentially just libflashplayer.so06:21
flaccidi have only  flashplugin-nonfree06:21
flaccidthats all you need06:21
flaccid!flash | antonio_06:21
ubottuantonio_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash06:21
antonio_ok guys06:22
antonio_maybe i'll just wait for intrepid06:22
antonio_i cannot upgrade to kde4 for now06:22
flaccidyou do not need kde4 desktop installed to run konq406:22
flaccid!info konqueror-kde4 | antonio_06:23
ubottuantonio_: konqueror-kde4 (source: kdebase-kde4): KDE 4's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-0ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 1726 kB, installed size 5072 kB06:23
antonio_i'll give it a try then06:23
antonio_let see06:23
antonio_anyway, many thank for your great support06:24
flaccidit should just depend on kde4 and qt4 libs but not the whole desktop06:24
flaccidnp06:24
antonio_just a last thing06:24
antonio_this chat should work with kopete too right?06:24
flaccidyep06:24
antonio_any particular step to do?06:24
antonio_i'm pretty new to irc06:25
flaccidum i can't remember sorry, try #kopete . i can't find an irc account in kopete-kde406:27
antonio_thanks06:28
flaccidnp06:28
romunovwhat pdf viewer would you guys recommend, excluding kpdf?06:34
ubunturosif you are on KDE 4.x, okular could be good06:34
romunovno, i'm still on KDE306:35
ubunturoshmm, I guess, Kpdf doesn't exist for KDE 4.x ;06:35
romunovi'll have to try kghostview again06:35
ubunturosromunov: then there's xpdf, if you want to06:35
romunovugh06:36
romunovit's ugly and doesn't support printing06:36
romunov(neither does epdfview)06:36
ubunturosI assume, it might have improved by now06:36
romunovi just installed it 5 mintues ago06:36
romunovand i couldn't find a print function06:36
dwidmann_I wonder why I can't use both of my DVD drives at the same time.07:13
dwidmann_Been trying to watch something on one screen while burning something in the other and it just doesn't want to happen :(07:13
MDCorehey all... I've got a little problem. My keyboard has frozen, in the gui07:15
MDCoreCtrl-f# works and caps lock works but no other keys!??!07:15
MDCoresorry, Ctrl-Alt-F# works. I logged into the console, installed console IRC and now I'm here. Any ideas how to restore my keyboard?07:15
frybyeMDCore: I am no kubuntu expert.. but I guess you did try re-booting and it has stayed the same or...?07:16
MDCorefrybye: I don't want to reboot. ,07:16
frybyeso the keyboard just dosent work within the gui.. eh - is there a way to delete it and re-install there???07:17
MDCoredelete and re-install!?07:17
frybyeMDCore: - again i dont know much about kubuntu!!07:17
MDCoreokay, it just froze suddenly07:17
MDCoreI don't want to reboot because I don't want to lose all my work07:17
MDCoreplus this has happened before and I want to try and find out how to fix it if it happens again07:17
frybyeso the mouse -and- k-board are not working in gui or..?07:18
frybyeotherwise use the mouse to save all your stuff and...?07:18
dwidmann_MDCore: maybe it's a problem with the section of the X configuration pertaining to your keyboard07:18
MDCoreit's just sudden. I've been using this setup for weeks07:18
MDCoreand all of a sudden it froze07:18
frybye- ill take a back seat cos of my relative cluelessness... :)07:19
MDCoreIt's happened before, on older versions of kubuntu, and I normally just restart07:19
MDCorefrybye: Thanks for trying! I do appreciate it07:19
frybyeMDCore: you got a wireless or similar k-board or just regular ps2??07:19
MDCoreI tried Alt-SysReq-R which didn't help but did pop something into my syslog so I know it is responding07:19
MDCoreoh I should have mentioned, this is a laptop07:19
frybyeMDCore: -that helps hehehe07:20
dwidmann_MDCore: perhaps x in general is hanging frozen, then again, it could be one app in particular that's causing the problem, if you have any ideas .... if you can think of a culprit, send it the kill signal (ie: kill - 9 `pidof processname`)07:20
MDCorehmm. I've got so many programs running... but let me check out the ps lists07:20
MDCoreyou have GOT to be kidding me... I just went back to the gui, right clicked on the desktop... and now my keyboard is responding!07:21
MDCore_so_ weird07:21
frybyeMDCore:  see how good the #kubuntu support # is!!! ;=)07:21
MDCorefrybye: Totally! I think I just needed moral support :)07:22
MDCoreThanks for helping me get through this, guys *snif*07:22
MDCore:)07:22
dwidmann_haha hahaha ... Well, there's definitely a problem somewhere in there ..... are there any hints in your logs (syslog, dmesg, Xorg.0.log, kern.log, messages, etc)07:22
dwidmann_lol07:22
frybyebut i have a thought or two.. not kubuntu specific.. generally you mentioned runningloads of apps..07:22
frybyedo you have sufficient ram for that???07:22
MDCoredwidmann no syslog was devoid of anything useful.07:23
MDCoredidn't check Xorg log though07:23
frybyestuff tends generally to screw a bit if one is constantly doing more than the ram can properly cope with or...?07:23
MDCorejs I have been pushing it.07:23
MDCoreI'm thinking that some dialog opened up that was sucking in all the keypresses07:24
MDCoreI did minimize windows trying to find it but didnt07:24
frybyei am sort-of assuming that kubuntu uses some system of "swap-file" writting stuff to the hd if the ram is full or...?07:24
MDCorePerhaps right-clicking on the desktop cleared the dialog07:24
MDCorefrybye: ja. It's called "swap" :)07:24
frybyefigures.. hehehe07:24
MDCoreI'm just going to go with the key-slurping-dialog theory and try right-clicking on the desktop in future07:25
frybyeso I am just going by general experiance that if one pushes the ram capacity too much all sorts of f-ups happen -especially stuff freezing...07:25
frybyegood...07:25
MDCoreTime lost if I had rebooted: 3 minutes. Time lost trying to fix it 35 minutes. The feeling of winning... priceless07:26
frybyemd cool... heheh07:26
frybyehow much ram have you got (u notice i am not letting go of this theory before I am forced too... heh)07:26
MDCoreok, thanks guys (and/or gals.) I'm going to get back to work. Have a nice day/night!07:26
frybyebye then...07:26
MDCorefrybye: Not enough :)07:27
frybyeits cheap right now - how long nowone knows...07:27
MDCorefrybye: Not cheak enough plus my 5 year old lappy doesn't have any more slots07:27
MDCorecheak == cheap07:27
frybyek07:27
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godkasAnyone know how I should go about installing cdemu 1.0 on gutsy? Theres a ubuntu package but its missing libmirage and when i tried to build that it doesnt registeer that its been installed or perhaps its incorrectly installed07:35
godkasthis is my config.log from running ./configure for libmirage http://pastebin.ca/102556007:35
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dwidmann_ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/171.05/07:47
dwidmann_and you probably want this one - NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-171.05-pkg2.run07:47
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dwidmann_so, dfrey, let me know when you get that far07:50
dfreydwidmann: I'm not quite ready to give up on the kubuntu packages yet, because this did work previously, but I had to nuke that install....long story07:51
dfreyI'll save those lines so that I can refer back to them if I don't have any luck07:52
dfreythanks07:52
dwidmann_hmm, really?07:53
dfreyyeah, but I can't recall what combination of packages and configuration made it work07:54
godkas Has anyone here installed CDemu?07:55
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dwidmann_dfrey may be gone now ... but the 169.12 driver doesn't support the GeForce 9's...., according to NVidia.07:57
dfreyI think it's all sorted out now.  2850fps in glxgears07:57
dwidmann_wait, now gone, must have misread ...07:57
dwidmann_all I know is this -- http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/169.12/README/appendix-a.html07:58
dwidmann_noticing that it's not there ...07:58
oilinkiis there a way to enable wlan (wpa2) when the kubuntu8 laptop starts? now it's started by knetworkmanager after the user login.07:59
dfreyIt's not on the list, but it seems to work.07:59
dwidmann_dfrey: with minimal performance though08:00
dfreydwidmann_: you would expect better performance?08:01
dwidmann_well, I wouldn't call glxgears a measure of performance, however, that number is quite low compared to that of other cards ... I'd imagine that you'd be getting quite a few more fps out of glxgears.08:01
dwidmann_dfrey: at its default size, I'm seeing something like 6000 with my 8600gt08:04
dwidmann_and it's busy outputting to other screens and such, so it could probably do better.08:05
dwidmann_Oh well, so long as things are working08:07
dwidmann_In my old rig with an nvidia 7900gtx I think I saw significantly higher than that even, so it's hard to tell what's going on performance wise. could probalby use some real benchmarks, I think I'll go look around.08:09
tanner_t40i have both gnome and kde on my system, however, im in my KDE now, and a lot of my things are "gnome" like, for example, the window title bar is the gnome style, and desktop switching is gnome style. how can i get my kde back?08:39
stdintanner_t40: it's probably running compiz, try (either from the run dialog or a terminal): kwin --replace08:41
tanner_t40stdin: wonderful, thought i removed it but guess not. thank you :)08:41
stdinit's default for ubuntu (gnome), but I don't know why it'd start in kde08:42
stdinbut I don't have gnome installed so I can't test ;)08:42
tanner_t40probably some junk from playing with settings.08:42
tanner_t40well, i only had a ubuntu cd, so.. :)08:42
tanner_t40i dont much care for gnome, but the last time i tried kubuntu i was fairly unimpressed (7.04) but it has improved greatly :)08:43
tanner_t40brb.08:44
tanner_t40much better :)08:46
tanner_t40it was the desktop settings thing08:46
tanner_t40how can i add to my panel a k-menu like menu to add my favorite apps and stuff?08:48
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tanner_t40anyone?08:55
intelikeyquestion ?08:56
eyemonhow do i enable "Monitor mode" on my wlan0 card??08:56
tanner_t40i want to add a k menu like menu to the panel, with my own applications08:56
intelikeyadd custom menu ?08:56
tanner_t40basically08:57
intelikeykde 3 or 4 ?08:58
tanner_t40308:58
intelikeyi thought you could just right click the pannel and get an option to add a custom menu in kde308:58
intelikeyhas to be a blank part of the pannel08:59
tanner_t40afraid not08:59
tanner_t40however it seems, if you make a menu under kmenu it seems you can add that to the panel, which may be what i end up doing09:00
eyemonhow do i enable "Monitor mode" on my wlan0 card?09:00
eyemonplz09:02
foormeahi09:02
mariusHi there09:02
kgxanyone using hardy on sony vaio here? any issues i should be aware of before getting a sony vaio myself?09:02
foormeai've got a problem under kde: i want avi files to be played automatically with vlc. problem is, when i set vlc to be the default player for .avi files (2nd button, open with, other, vlc, remember choice), it will still play files with kaffeine...09:02
intelikeytanner_t40 i guess i was thinking about the "add this menu" option in some of the add application options of the right click.09:02
mariusCan someone help me running compiz cube?09:03
mariusI installed compi...but I don't have a clue how to use it09:04
mariusno one?09:07
tanner_t40can anyone recommend some software to help organize (and catalog?) files? I mainly just want to have an easy way to look up documents i've downloaded09:07
mariusCompiz really gives me headaches09:08
tanner_t40indeed09:09
mariusIn fact I'm a newby to Linux09:10
intelikey!patience09:10
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:10
m0ns0onHello09:15
mariushello there09:15
* tanner_t40 is very satisfied :)09:15
m0ns0onmarius, You have any knowledge on cron scripts?09:15
mariussorry,I'm really new to linux...I'm here for help too...09:16
intelikey!ask | m0ns0on09:17
ubottum0ns0on: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)09:17
Jucato!cron09:17
ubottucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm09:17
mariusso...how do I start the cube...do I need a compi theme for that? I really don't get the thing09:18
mariusHelp pls09:18
intelikey!compiz09:21
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion09:21
mariusThanks09:21
TheFuzzballdoes anyone know how to change the PATH to Strigi?09:22
tanner_t40anyone know of a good program to organize documents?09:22
intelikeyTheFuzzball umm move it ?09:22
TheFuzzballintelikey, what?09:22
intelikeytanner_t40 that's vague enough to be all but unanswerable09:23
TheFuzzballintelikey, I want to change the path of strigi because KDE4 is finding it in /usr and I want it to find it in /opt09:23
tanner_t40intelikey: well, i just want to have a semi-convenient way of looking up information in documents, organizing, search, noting which document details what, et c09:24
TheFuzzballbut export STRIGI_DIR=/opt/kde4/kde doesn't work09:24
intelikeyTheFuzzball grep the configs to find the one that holds that info and edit it.09:24
intelikeyTheFuzzball example;  grep -HRe STRIGI_DIR /etc09:25
TheFuzzballthanks09:25
intelikeyTheFuzzball might also look in  ~/.kde  it could have a referance there.09:25
TheFuzzballcool09:26
intelikeygrep -HRe STRIGI_DIR ~/.kde09:26
TheFuzzballI guessed :p09:26
TheFuzzballok, done it, thanks intelikey09:27
intelikeytanner_t40 some database program like oodb maybe    or some cli tools like grep find and/or slocate09:28
* intelikey likse things like "find /base/path -iname *blah* | file /base/path/dir/filename | grep string /base/path/dir/filename"09:30
intelikeyand no that's not supposed to be a pipeline ^ just seperated with |09:31
intelikeyoh left out   " less /base/path/dir/filename "  ^    :)09:33
intelikeyof course you will probably want to use filters like "cut" and "fold" also if you do very much that way.09:34
intelikeyand maybe "sort"09:35
stdinnothing like writing a command to search for a string that takes up 3 lines in a term :)09:36
intelikeystdin :)09:36
intelikeystdin long time no C++09:37
stdinheh09:37
stdinrecently learnt Python09:37
stdineasier when you don't have to edit->compile->re edit->recompile...09:38
intelikeyso now that you've been snake bit, what are you up to ?09:38
stdinmostly working on ubottu actually09:38
intelikeystdin ah   good   it needs it   ;/09:38
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stdinI've committed 22 revisions in the last 17 days :p09:40
intelikeystdin so tell me,   is python hard/easy to learn ?09:40
stdinactually it's surprisingly easy09:41
stdinespecially if you "think" in scripts09:41
intelikeystdin and where would you sujest one start ?09:41
* intelikey wonders if he thinks in scripts....09:41
stdinintelikey: well, http://docs.python.org/tut/tut.html :)09:42
intelikey&& should try to learn py || should leave it alone...09:42
stdinthe only new "concepts" you need to learn for python are objects and classes (which are custom objects)09:44
stdinbut it's not difficult to get09:44
stdinand can save you a lot of writing code when you get used to it09:45
intelikeystdin k   i'll peer into it09:50
stdinI still make some shell scripts and some c++ apps, it's the whole "right tool for the job" thing :)09:51
intelikeyright09:51
intelikeyshell script is always the right tool for the job,  except when it's not, of course.09:52
stdinheh, exactly09:52
bhueyI'm having a problem with kde packages in hardy09:53
bhueyThe installation blows out in a script saying that basename arguments are bogus09:53
intelikeybhuey awh.  i hate to hear that.09:53
bhueyIs this a known problem ?09:53
intelikeybhuey not known by me.   maybe if you paste the exact error message09:54
intelikeybhuey and what command/app are you getting this from ?09:54
bhueyaptitude09:55
bhueypaste it where ?09:55
stdin!paste09:55
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)09:55
* bhuey see it09:55
bhueythanks09:55
intelikeyone line ?    here.   more than one  use the pastebin09:55
bhueyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/13801/09:56
bhueyintelikey: that link09:57
bhueyit's rather bizarre09:57
intelikeyah a postinst script error.09:57
bhueyIt f-s up other packages that use it as a dependency which is a good portion of kde409:58
intelikeynothing bizarre about that.  first check the script to see if it's a bashism error    first line of the script say #!/bin/sh   or  #!/bin/bash09:58
bhueyhmm09:58
intelikeythe script location is  /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm-kde4.postinst09:59
intelikeyyou can pastebin the script if you want.09:59
stdinI can't find any instance of 'basename' in any kdm-kde4 {pre,post}{inst,rm} script10:00
intelikeystdin lets see his,  his package may be different ?10:00
stdinsame version10:00
bhueyyeah, same here10:00
intelikeyand it could be a recurring "ucf" bug10:00
bhueyucf ?10:01
intelikeyyeah  /usr/bin/ucf10:01
intelikeyit's been bugged sense before dapper10:01
bhueysense=since ?10:01
intelikeyyeah10:02
bhueyok10:02
bhueywell, how do I fix it ?10:02
intelikeywell first lets try to find the exact problem.    edit the postinst script and change the set -e to set -x   then run it like this    sudo /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm-kde4.postinst > error.txt 2>&110:03
intelikeyand pastebin  error.txt for us10:04
bhueyeh ?10:04
intelikeystdin err does it requite an  install  argument ?10:05
intelikeyrequire even10:05
stdinshouldn't do10:05
bhueyreload10:06
bhueyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/13802/10:06
intelikeyok  looks like   /usr/share/debconf/frontend   is where the problem is10:07
stdinperl script, eww10:07
intelikeyyeah.  i'm bailin' on that one.  you can fix if you want.10:08
stdinbhuey: have you tried purging and reinstalling it?10:09
bhueypurging using what ?10:09
ActionParsnip!register10:09
ubottuBy default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.10:09
stdinintelikey: only the truly insane understand perl, and I'm not one of those yet ;)10:09
* intelikey is the gut that purged all perl from his system on basic principle10:09
intelikeyguy even10:09
stdinbhuey: "sudo aptitude purge kdm-kde4" then "sudo aptitude install kdm-kde4"10:10
bhueyI did a remove --purge10:10
stdinwith apt-get?10:10
bhueyaptitude10:11
intelikeybhuey you said that several packages were depending on kdm-kde4 ?10:11
stdinaptitude has a purge command10:11
bhueyyes10:11
bhueywell, it's done10:11
* intelikey wonders what would depend on kdm-kde4 ...10:12
bhueynow I'm downloading a couple of packages at about 30k/s10:12
bhueywhich is very slow, have ubuntu servers gotten very slow recently ?10:12
stdinintelikey: it's needed for some things in kde4 to work properly10:12
stdinbhuey: depends which servers you are using10:13
intelikeystdin really ?10:13
bhueyarchive.ubuntu.com10:13
stdinintelikey: yep, like switching users and the like10:13
stdinbhuey: try using a local mirror10:13
bhueywhat's a local mirrow in san diego ca ?10:14
intelikeystdin you saying that gdm is not a usable replacement there ?10:14
bhueysometimes I get wicked speeds10:14
intelikeybhuey   us.10:14
bhueylike nearly 18000k/second10:15
stdinintelikey: in 4.0 at least, not really10:15
bhuey1.7Mbytes/sec10:15
bhueycable modem is smoking10:15
bhueysorry10:15
intelikeybhuey us.archive.ubuntu.com should be about as local as you'll get10:15
stdinif you still can't install the package file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+filebug10:16
bhueysame problem10:16
intelikeyheh  purge debconf   ;/    you probably wont want to it will take tons with it10:17
stdin$ apt-cache rdepends debconf|wc -l10:19
stdin93810:19
stdinand that's just direct deps10:19
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=df70f22710:19
intelikeyeven better   can't be done dirrectly10:19
bhueyjust filed the bug10:19
bhueythanks for the help anyways10:20
ChoreboyI'm having the hardest time with S-Video out :-( Can anyone help?10:20
Choreboythe only literature I can find is for Edgy10:20
intelikeybhuey welcome.    and one might tweek the postinst script and get the package installed anyway   but it'd be a dirty hack10:20
bhueyno, I don't want to screw with that, too much of a waste of time10:21
bhueythis kind of thing needs to be reported anyways10:21
intelikeyof course. report it.   heh then hack away  :)))10:22
bhueyit's a bit surprising since Ubuntu is so good about stuff like this most of the time10:22
bhueyyeah, I've got kernel development to deal with so.... :)10:22
bhueyand folks are paying me to do it10:22
bhueygot to get my priorities straight10:23
Z_Godthe extra volume, calculator, etc. keys suddenly do not work anymore in my hardy installation, anyone know which application is responsible for this?10:25
miloko 8-)10:27
Choreboydoes anyone know how to kick my output to S-video so I can see my screen on TV?10:28
ChoreboyI've tried to read up on it, tried to fiddle with it, and I am not having any luck.10:29
Choreboymaybe someone could take a peek at my xorg.conf file and tell me if there's something I'm missing?  http://pastebin.com/d6bce591310:31
intelikey!tvout10:31
ubottuFor help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)10:31
Choreboy:-\ I've already looked at the ATI wiki, some of it doesn't appear applicable and wasn't too helpful10:32
intelikeyneed guome to kde translation ?10:34
Nyad!kubuntu10:40
ubottuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE10:40
Nyad!kde410:40
ubottuKDE 4.0.4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde410:40
Choreboyintelikey: was that directed to me?10:42
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intelikeyyeah just asking.10:46
intelikeyi.e.  in place of gksudo it's kdesu   and in place of gedit it's kate    that kind of thing.10:47
NyadHi. is it possible to install other wm's in kubuntu? like fluxbox and blackbox and use those instead?10:48
JucatoNyad: sure10:48
intelikeythose are not wm's they are DE's  but yes10:48
Jucatosplitting hairs, their WM's :P10:48
Jucatogtg :D10:49
Nyadkde is a DE, fluxbox and blackbox are WM's10:49
intelikeykwin is a wm too10:49
JucatoKWin is the WM used by KDE. KDE is the DE, KWin is the WM :)10:50
Tm_Tkids...10:50
Jucatolike I said, splitting hairs. )10:50
Jucato:)10:50
Nyadwhen I install them, will it be the same way of logging into them? where kde login manager will let me pick them from the session list?10:53
Choreboyintelikey: Yeah I've got that part, just some of the info is outdated and doesn't apply, which makes it hard for me to workaround since I know zilch about linux10:54
Choreboypackages that have gone poof, etc.10:55
intelikeyNyad yes.10:56
intelikeyChoreboy ah  ok   well if i had such hardware i might be able to help expressly  but alas i can not.10:57
Choreboyintelikey: It's OK. I think I'm being punished for having ATI instead of NVidia10:58
hectorHi. I've troubles to install scripst using greasemonky in firefox 3 beta 5, under kubuntu 8.04 (kde 3)10:58
hectorAny idea ?10:58
mhbhi folks11:02
mhbI'm using Kubuntu and KDE4 (hardy) and I'm currentlly installing Pardus in a virtual machine. Even though top shows only 29-80% CPU activity on my one core, the computer is still so sloow that you can't even type int othe console fluently11:04
mhbany ideas?11:04
mhbI've got a dual core machine, so ideally the other core should be able to manage the terminal "load"11:04
tzdif i don't use compiz, am I suppose to have any compiz files in my system? E.g. i find a lot of compiz files on my system during: locate compiz11:06
smerilafter i brought my laptop in the airplane xray i had problem staring it it says that is cant start gnome effects and frezes i have to log in in failsafemode11:14
smerilis there anything i can do11:14
smeril?11:14
Choreboybuy a new laptop. I kid, I kid.11:15
smeril:(11:15
smerilI have heard that the xray can destroy the computer11:16
Choreboynah11:16
Choreboyxray didn't hurt it11:16
Choreboyxray can hurt photo film and magnetic storage things (like floppy disks)11:17
smerilbut why does it freaze every time i start it?11:17
smerilI cant start it without failsafe11:17
ChoreboyI couldn't tell you but I had the same problem without going through any xray machine. It just randomly happened one day11:18
Choreboycan you disable effects?11:18
Choreboyin failsafe11:18
smerilno it cant make any changes with desktop apperance11:18
Choreboyyou're using Gnome, not KDE?11:18
smerilI am not sure now i belive its gnome11:19
Choreboyhave you done extensive configuration changes? Are you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu?11:20
ChoreboyU comes with gnome out of the box, K comes with KDE out of the box11:20
smerilubunty hardy heron from a cd11:20
smerilubuntu11:20
smerileverything worked before my trip11:21
smerilno configurations11:21
ChoreboyI really don't know enough about Ubuntu to help, but you may find better help in #ubuntu or ##gnome11:21
Choreboytry #ubuntu first11:22
smerilthanks i will try11:22
Choreboyyou are in Kubuntu which uses KDE. Not to say people in here don't know Gnome, but you're more likely to get the help in #ubuntu instead of here.11:23
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Choreboysmeril: do you know how to change channels?11:24
viperserv1i need some help with ubuntu and permissions11:24
smerilyes11:24
Choreboyjust checking11:25
viperserv1well gnome actually11:25
viperserv1i made a new account and it can't use wine in gnome11:25
Choreboyviperserv1: I just mentioned to smeril, for gnome help you might be better off in #ubuntu or ##gnome instead of in here.11:25
viperserv1oh11:25
viperserv1how many r in gnome?11:26
azet_i like KDE11:27
Choreboy video driver patch for xorg 7.1 won't work for xorg 7.3, or will it?11:31
kuroryuuChoreboy: it's unlikely11:32
viperserv1anyone use freenx here?11:33
viperserv1it wont let me set group permissions in gnome even with root11:34
ChoreboyThere's no ATI tv-out driver patch for xorg 7.3! Very disappointing. TV-out is really the only reason I boot to windows anymore.11:39
viperserv1aright11:41
viperserv1hmm does rtorrent or ltorrent work from ubuntu?11:46
kuroryuuChoreboy: are you sure they didn't build the patch into 7.3?11:46
petgrillhi i am about to install SoundMAX Audio Driver and alsa driver because my mic doesn't work and i don't know if suround works too, any guidance??? which one should i install 1st?11:47
Choreboykuroryuu: no, I'm not sure. How would I find that out? I see no mention anywhere11:47
kuroryuuChoreboy: have you tried just using the tv out or looking for a guide to use it with 7.3?11:48
ChoreboyI'm really not having any luck with any venue11:49
petgrillanyone an opinion?11:49
kuroryuuChoreboy: using open source ati driver or fglrx?11:50
viperserv1hmm does rtorrent or ltorrent work from ubuntu?11:51
kuroryuuChoreboy: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_TV-Out#X_configuration seems to have a lot of info on editing xorg.conf for tv-out11:53
Choreboykuroryuu: I am not using the open source yet, I'm trying to find a patch for it before I do.11:53
Choreboykuroryuu: yeah so does http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout but alot of it is outdated11:54
kuroryuuChoreboy: from what I've read, 7.3 includes support for ati tv out11:55
* mjponce is away: zzz zzz zzz11:56
Choreboykuroryuu: so I can use the latest opensource driver and not need to patch it?11:56
kuroryuuby the look of it, yes, just a matter of putting the right lines in xorg.conf11:57
Choreboykuroryuu: I don't know how to do that, but I'm sure I'll figure it out as long as the driver can get 'er done11:58
rysiek|plhi guys11:58
rysiek|plI am having problems with adding a SMB/Windows printer11:59
rysiek|plthe "Add printer assistant" does not find the printer, although it's visible AOK on windoze11:59
kristian__Hi. I'm wondering about what is best practice when downloading a program manually. I mean: If it is just a zipped archive, where is the best place to put the files, where should I run the executable from?12:00
rysiek|plkristian__: what kind of program12:00
kristian__Like the Danish version of Firefox.12:00
rysiek|plkristian__: is it a windows *.exe?12:00
kristian__No, it is the Linux version.12:00
rysiek|plkristian__: hmmm, who won't you just install a Danish locale on your machine?12:01
rysiek|pl*why12:01
kristian__With apt-get the program files are sort of distributed between /usr/bin (symlinks) and /usr/lib (the "real" program folder).12:01
kuroryuukristian_: you can install in your home dir and just create shortcuts in the menu and on the desktop to it12:02
viperserv1hey does rtorrent or ltorrent work from ubuntu?12:03
kristian__The thing is, I don't want to put it in my home-folder (e.g. as a hidden folder), cause I want to seperate settings and executables so that I can do a nice clean reformat of my root but keep settings intact.12:03
Choreboyoooh I was just about to ask the same question kristian just asked!12:03
rysiek|plkristian__: if you want to just keep your firefox settings, then just copy/backup your ~/.mozilla folder12:04
ChoreboyI am going to download a tar.gz file, it's an open source video driver, I don't know how to umm.. install? it.12:04
kristian__I know I could simply create a new folder called "apps" or something under /usr - but I think this would be a bad way to muddle up the standard system.12:04
kuroryuukristian_: then install in /usr/local or /opt, that's usually the standard for custom installs12:04
Choreboyextracting is the easy part, but I don't know where to extract to or what to do after that.12:04
kristian__Great, what does "opt" stand for?12:04
kuroryuuChoreboy: for a source tar ball there's usually a README or INSTALL with instructions12:05
kuroryuukristian_: couldn't tell you, lol12:05
Choreboykuroryuu: included inside the gzip?12:05
ChoreboyI'm getting my driver from here  http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/individual/driver12:06
kristian__Isn't it odd, by the way, that Firefox creates files under /etc/firefox[...] like bookmarks and stuff like that??12:06
kristian__... I mean, shouldn't they be placed under ~/12:06
kristian__?12:06
kuroryuukristian_: not really, /etc is where apps put system wide configuration files12:06
rysiek|plkristian__: they are12:06
kristian__Yeah, but not bookmarks, I would suppose?12:06
rysiek|plkristian__: you have your own, user-specific config in ~/.mozilla/firefox12:07
kristian__Oh, okay, so I suppose. they're just templates or defaults.12:07
rysiek|plkristian__: yup.12:07
rysiek|plkristian__: those are the ones you'll get when you delete ~/.mozilla/firefox12:07
kuroryuuChoreboy: after using tar -xvf blah.tar.gz, you get a folder, in the folder will be everything you need including instructions12:08
kristian__Okay, thanks a lot. Now, only problem is that under /usr/local the same structure with directories like bin and lib is repeated. Should I just ignore this structure and make a directory called /usr/local/Firefox, for example?12:08
Choreboykuroryuu: I don't know what any of that is, I think you're telling me after I unzip the file I'll have a folder that contains various files including instructions?12:09
Choreboywhoops not to quote you verbatim ;-)12:09
kuroryuukristian_: better to use the bin that's there, it should be on your path and makes it easier to run the program12:09
kuroryuuChoreboy: yes, you do know how tar works, right?12:10
rysiek|plkristian__: wait, why again do you want to download a zipped version of Firefox from Mozilla and not use the one from repos?12:10
Choreboykuroryuu: not if my life depended on it.12:11
kristian__Wouldn't it be a mess just dropping all the files from every program I want to install in the same folder...? Or are subdirectories also in the path, so I could just use /usr/local/bin/Firefox?12:11
kristian__Cause the repo doesn't have a version in my language.12:11
rysiek|plkristian__: is it danish?12:11
kristian__This more like a fundamental question, though :)12:11
kristian__Yep.12:11
rysiek|plkristian__: what's the two-letter-code for danich12:12
rysiek|pl*danish12:12
kristian__DA12:12
prateeki have kubuntu 7.10 and wanna upgrade to 8.04..i have hardy live cd. how can i do it **without internet** directly from cd12:12
prateekubouto12:12
kuroryuukristian_: it dumps everything into several folders actually, makes everything a bit easier in some ways, contrary to what you might think12:12
rysiek|plkristian__: mozilla-firefox-locale-da-dk12:12
prateek?12:12
kristian__Oh, great :)12:12
rysiek|plkristian__: you can also make your whole system use the Danish locale12:13
kuroryuuChoreboy: what did you do with the .tar.gz file so far?12:13
Choreboywell, I downloaded it right smack to my desktop12:14
rysiek|plkristian__: kdesu qt-language-selector --mode install12:14
Choreboytried to extract it with Ark, but that was nothing-doing.12:14
kristian__I would think this could be an advantage. But isn't it a bending of the guidelines just placing symlinks in /usr/bin and then everything else in /usr/lib? I mean, I'm sure there are things in /usr/lib/gimp, for example, that aren't exactly libraries...! Yet it seems to be pretty standard?12:14
prateeki  have kubuntu 7.10 and wanna upgrade to 8.04..i have hardy live cd. how can i do it **without internet** directly from cd?12:14
prateek?12:14
kristian__Can I make the whole system use the Danish locale without changing the system language? The Danish translation is terrible, way too literal.12:15
rysiek|plkristian__: you want the danish locale only for firefox?12:15
rysiek|plhmmm12:15
kuroryuuChoreboy: did it give you an error?12:16
rysiek|plkristian__: no idea, actually, never tried somthing like that. the package I gave you should do the trick, though12:16
rysiek|plkristian__: and I believe there are language packs for Firefox, distributed by mozilla separately as add-ons, so that you don't have to download the whole installatioon12:16
kristian__No, would be great if it were system wide for apps from repo, but with the OS still in English12:16
kuroryuukristian_: you could try: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-da-dk12:17
kristian__I would have thought so, too...12:17
* mjponce is away: Gone away for now.12:17
rysiek|plkristian__: you will have to fiddle with *l10n* and *i18n* packages12:17
kristian__Thanks, I will.12:17
kristian__What does that mean?12:17
[ex]p|0s10nпривет КУТЭфилы :((12:17
kuroryuukristian_: sorry, so used to the command line, lol, open up adept and install the mozilla-firefox-locale-da-dk package12:18
Choreboykuroryuu: I lost connection, did I miss anything from you?12:19
kristian__Yeah, thanks. The above suggestion of changing some setting in Qt, would that make apt-get always try to find localized versions, or was I just misunderstanding something?12:19
kuroryuuChoreboy: just asked if Ark gave you an error12:19
Choreboykuroryuu: I just ran that command you said on the file. It did all sorts of things :-)12:19
Choreboykuroryuu: It did, and I don't recall what it was, but it doesn't matter anymore because I did that command in Konsole you gave me12:20
kuroryuuChoreboy: yes, it should have printed out a list of everything it found in the tar.gz file and there should be a new folder on your desktop12:20
prateek'12:20
prateekd12:20
kristian__Is the mozilla-firefox-locale-da-dk package the latest version of Firefox 2, or is it version 3 - and how can I tell?12:20
ChoreboyKonsole has issues anytime I try to CD to the desktop so I moved the file, let me check.12:21
kuroryuukristian_: unfortunately I think it's firefox 2, it should say in the package description in adept12:21
Choreboykuroryuu: yes it extracted it to a folder in the same directory. No I suppose I'll have a look-see for instructions in there.12:21
kristian__Oh, I see, it is simply an add-on.12:21
viperserv1what rtorrent do i need to ubuntu?12:23
kuroryuukristian_: yeah, it's 2.0.0.712:23
kristian__Yeah, and I remember now. For some reason this package doesn't change anything at all. Menus and everything else still in English. Strange...12:24
vltHello. I'm trying to put some media files on an iPhone using Amarok. I installed "ipod-convenience", made ssh key login possible and setup the media player device in Amarok Settings. When trying to connect I get error "No ipod found". Any idea what's missing?12:25
kuroryuukristian_: it won't be automatic, you need to change the settings somehow to get the danish menus12:26
Choreboykuroryuu: Thanks for your help. This is quite an undertaking for me since I'm spankin' new to Linux.12:26
kristian__I also remember now, that I have tried downloading addons from the web to localize Firefox - but I haven't been able to find any option anywhere to set this.12:26
kuroryuuChoreboy: I'm glad I could be of assistance, linux ain't easy, but it's worth it, and it's tons easier than when I was learning, lol12:26
Choreboykuroryuu: I have learned a lot in a short time. I dual boot XP and Kubuntu on my laptop, and I find Kubuntu to be faster and cleaner. Video-out is really the only thing I boot XP for anymore.12:27
kristian__That is, I am able to "use" the language under Extensions -> Languages [or something like that], but it doesn't change nothin'.12:27
kuroryuukristian_: pretty sure your only option is to install the danish version from the site then12:28
ChoreboyAlright boys and girls I should have gone to bed about 8 hours ago. Good... morning? and thanks again.12:29
kuroryuuChoreboy: good luck12:29
Choreboykuroryuu: thanks, you've definitely put me on the right path.12:29
kristian__Yeah, thanks anyway. Oh, what conclusion did we reach regarding the placing of manually installed programs? /usr/local/bin/Firefox[for example]? :)12:30
rysiek|plkristian__: /usr/local/bin or /opt/12:30
kuroryuufor firefox I'd go with /opt, makes more sense for an /opt/firefox folder that contains everything12:31
kuroryuuunless you want to split it all up manually ;)12:31
kristian__That's a good advise.12:31
* rysiek|pl brb12:32
kuroryuuthen just point your shortcuts to /opt/firefox/firefox and you're good to go12:32
kristian__In any case I couldn't bring myself to just dump 20 files and 10 folders from Firefox in the root of /usr/local/bin. Would be too messy if some other app came along...!12:32
kuroryuuusually /opt is for binaries since everythings in one folder while /usr/local is for compiled apps since "make install" splits everything up into wherever they need to go12:36
kristian__Yeah, great. Do you have a sense about wether this is a widely accepted practice...?12:36
kuroryuuwhat I've been describing is pretty much a unix standard12:37
kristian__I mean, using /opt with subfolders.12:37
kristian__... and not just for executables.12:37
kuroryuuyup, opt is for whole folders of stuff jumbled together12:37
kristian__Great. Firefox is a compiled app too, though, not so?12:38
kuroryuuwell you download the binary from the site, but you could get the source if you wanted12:38
kristian__Oh, right. But "make install" doesn't distribute the compiled files in the standard hierarchy, does it? More like distributes the compiled files within the compilation folder, right?12:39
kuroryuumake install distributes using the standard heirarchy, basically ./bin ./lib etc wherever you set the prefix in the ./configure step12:40
kuroryuudefault is /usr/local, but if you used ./configure --prefix=/usr it would put executables in /usr/bin libraries in /usr/lib etc12:41
kuroryuumake install just moves the compiled files from the compilation directory to the standard heirarchy12:43
kristian__Oh, right. I will be more careful compiling stuff in the future, then. I thought I could just delete the folder in which I did "make install" if I wanted to get rid of the program again. Now I understand, that I would have to keep track of the files made by "make install" in order to uninstall them in the future. Doesn't the standard folders get extremely messy over time, if people don't know which files are in use and which aren't??12:43
kuroryuusometimes, but there are a few ways of making it cleaner, for ubuntu you might want to look into "checkinstall"12:44
kristian__That's very interesting...!12:44
kuroryuuusing checkinstall does the usual make install plus it logs the install in apt so you can apt-get remove it12:44
kristian__So there isn't something like "make uninstall" that could be run, for example in the same folder as I compiled it in?12:45
kuroryuuand it'll go through all the folders and delete everything that was installed for that program12:45
kuroryuuactually there is a make uninstall, never knew that before, lol12:46
kristian__Sounds like a really good solution. In the regular how-to for compiling and installing programs, should I just substitute the line "make install" with "checkinstall" or with "make checkinstall"??12:46
kuroryuubut with checkinstall you can delete the source directory12:46
kuroryuui forget exactly how checkinstall works, but you first have to install it, should just be called checkinstall in apt12:46
kuroryuuthere's a guide on the ubuntu wiki I think12:47
kristian__Okay, I can always look into it online.12:47
kuroryuuhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall12:47
kuroryuuthere you go12:47
kristian__Thanks so much! I've learned a lot today :)12:47
kuroryuuno problem, glad I could help12:48
kristian__!!12:48
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ubuntuciao a tutti12:58
=== fabi_ is now known as aceta
viperserv1dr willis13:03
viperserv1anyone know how to add premissions in gnome?13:03
kristian__Add permissions to what?13:06
viperserv1users13:06
kristian__Permissions to files? Folders? Programs?13:07
xt828i seem to have borked an install of msttcorefonts, because whenever i go to add or remove a package it gives me an error about all the .exes it's trying to download from 127.0.0.1:8118, which doesn't exist on my network13:07
viperserv1wine13:07
ubunturaga ho un paio di domande chi potrebbe aiutarmiiiiiiiiiii13:08
ubuntuplease...................13:08
xt828ubuntu: try #kubuntu-it13:09
kristian__viperserv1: Tell me what doesn't work.13:09
ubuntuooooooooooooooooooo ma nn risponde nessuno??????????????13:10
jdavies!en | ubuntu13:10
ubottuubuntu: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat13:10
viperserv1well13:10
viperserv1i made a new user and it won't work for her13:11
viperserv1wine wont load13:11
kristian__Oh.13:11
viperserv1but it will load for the admin user i have13:11
kristian__That's strange, I would've thought Wine would be installed for all users. Or maybe that you could add your new user to some "wine"-group. But I'm afraid I will have to pass this one on. I'm not exactly a pro myself...13:12
viperserv1well it's installed13:13
viperserv1but doesn't want ot load13:13
kristian__Can you run the Notepad program that is installed by default?13:13
viperserv1nope13:13
kristian__What does it say if you try?13:13
ubuntuc'è qualche italiano connessooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo13:14
viperserv1no errors13:14
ubuntu?13:14
jdavies!it | ubuntu13:14
kristian__Just silence? That sucks...13:14
ubottuubuntu: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!13:14
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kristian__Well, sorry, can't help you | viperserv113:16
kristian_hi kristian_13:19
viperserv1i think i know what was wrong13:20
viperserv1the gnome dir was missing wine13:21
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DragonathI installed hardy on my sata drive, however my motherboard can't boot it, how do I install grub on my usb stick so that I can use it to boot the hardy installation?13:44
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jhutchinsDragonath: What device is your usb?13:54
jhutchinsDragonath: Why can't your motherboard boot to sata though?13:54
pfabregathi all13:54
Dragonathit's too old, and the only way I can update the bios is with a floppy disk drive, which I don't have13:54
pfabregatwhere i can change the tty's resolutions ?13:55
DragonathI have a 1GB usb stick13:55
pfabregat(using hardy)13:55
DragonathI've booted DSL off it so booting from that works with my motherboard13:55
Dragonathnow I only need to install grub on it13:55
jhutchinsDragonath: Well, if you get around to answering my question, maybe I can help you after my shower.13:56
Dragonathmm what did question did I not answer? :P13:57
Dragonathmy usb stick is currently /dev/sdb14:00
southerncanyone have a problem where they logout and the screen turns black and you cant do anything ?14:02
southerncanyone know how to correct this problem ?14:03
jonahhey guys how can you set cd drives to eject when you press the button14:03
southernc(:0/14:04
southerncas long as there not mounted then theyll eject when you press the button14:04
Dragonathsouthernc: once the screen turns black, what does it say when you press ctrl+alt+f1?14:04
southerncno commands work14:05
pfabregatjonah: you can bind a key to the eject command14:05
southerncive tried ctrl alt del ctrl alt f1 f2 f3 f4 etc14:05
southerncand nothing happens14:05
pfabregatjonah: and eject -t closes the tray14:05
tmk_the uuid of my external usb harddrive is not always assigned at boot.  if the uuid is not assigned at boot I have to turn off then turn on the harddrive for it to be assigned.  is there some way to have the uuid assigned to this harddrive at boot all the time?14:05
pfabregatjonah: so you can bind a key to open, and a key to close ;)14:05
jonahpfabregat: but is there a way so when i press the cd tray button it opens?14:06
southerncit should anyway unless you have it mounted for some weird reason14:06
southerncok good answer14:08
rysiek|plguys, after moving a harddive with kubuntu from comp A to comp B everything works honky-dory BUT the right ALT doesn't work as a char modifier (so that I could type-in  my Polish ąść ;) )14:08
rysiek|plany ideas where to change it?14:08
Jucatotmk_: UUID's are assigned to partitions when they are created, not when they are booted14:08
pfabregatjonah: it's not the button function itself ?14:08
Jucatotmk_: if it gets a consistent /dev file, why not try using that? or give it a LABEL? (Not sure how to do that one though)14:09
jhutchinsDragonath: Boot in rescue mode from the cd, chroot to the drive you installed to, mount the USB, and grub-install /dev/sdb14:11
jonahpfabregat: no the button on the pysical hardware, the eject button on the drive. how do you make it work.14:11
Dragonathok, thanks jhutchins14:12
Dragonathwill try that14:12
jhutchinsjonah: You must unmount the disk first.14:12
tmk_jucato: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid when i boot sometimes there isn't a uuid to external usb harddrive link.  i have to manually turn off then turn on the drive for a link in /dev/disk/by-uuid to be created.14:13
pfabregatjhutchins: eject command does the umount trick too14:13
southernci told him it cant be mounted three times already14:14
crsHello.14:14
Rodrigo_de_Olivehi14:14
pfabregatjonah: if is not the physical button in the cd/dvd drive, what button're you talking about ??14:15
crsIs it a hdparm thing, that hddrive seems to work more quitly than on gentoo?14:15
Rodrigo_de_Olivesomebody can talk me how can I change my ubunto language?14:16
jonahpfabregat: it is the the physical button i'm talking about. but if there is a cd in it won't eject. i know you can unmount it first or whatever but can't you just make the button eject without having to do that. there is a setting in gnome to allow so i figured there would be an alternative in kde also??14:16
pfabregatRodrigo_de_Olive: you have to install the proper language pack14:16
crsand what is that: HDIO_GET_UNMASKINTR failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device ? Its from hdparm ;/14:17
pfabregatjonah: what kubuntu version ?14:17
Rodrigo_de_Olivepfabregat where do I get download files?14:17
jonahpfabregat: gutsy14:18
pfabregatRodrigo_de_Olive: kmenu->add and remove programs and then you search the language pack and install14:18
pfabregatjonah: odd, i use gutsy at home and the button just works14:18
pfabregat(even if is it a cd in it)14:18
jonahpfabregat: yeah that's the thing, it works ok until there is a cd in and mounted. then it won't work until i unmount.14:19
pfabregatjonah: check for dmesg errors when you push the button14:19
crsHow to uninstall package (like kde4) with all dependencies? I mean with all packages it installs?14:20
pfabregatcrs: in add and remove programs, look for the dummy package14:20
pfabregatcrs: what're you triyng to uninstall ?14:20
BluesKajHiyas14:21
crspfabregat: kde414:21
crspfabregat: but this installation now is just to learn system. I want to migrate to kubuntu but i need first learn how to use it. Im a gentoo user so far. :)14:21
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pfabregatok14:22
Rodrigo_de_Oliveisn't there a site where I get the file changer language?14:22
pfabregati think the dummy package is called kubuntu-kde4-desktop14:22
crspfabregat: yes it is, that what i installed.14:22
crsRodrigo_de_Olive: use your package manager, You will find this in menu14:23
pfabregatRodrigo_de_Olive: why do you want a site when you have the add and remove app ?14:23
Rodrigo_de_OliveI'm at add/remove files...14:23
Rodrigo_de_Olivehere there's: development, edutainment, games, graphics, internet....... excuse-me but, where I chage the currently language to portuguese language?14:24
pfabregatRodrigo_de_Olive: in the Settings category you'll find a program called Language Support14:26
crspfabregat: find and install package called: language-pack-kde-pt-base14:27
Rodrigo_de_Oliveoh... in my Settings category there's not none "language support" oh my god!14:28
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pfabregatno problem, look for adept or synaptic in your menu14:29
pfabregatthen do as crs said, install language-pack-pt*14:30
Rodrigo_de_Olivein adept there's just the word "quit"14:30
pfabregatthen do "    sudo apt-get install language-pack-pt*    "14:32
crspfabregat: Can you use wildcard in package names? ;-)14:33
pfabregatcrs: of course ;)14:33
crsNice. ;-)14:33
unrealexalguem me pode dar uma ajuda14:33
unrealex???14:33
Rodrigo_de_Olivequal é seu problema cara?14:34
Rodrigo_de_Olivetambém tou pedindo ajuda eles14:34
pfabregatunrealex: english or spanish only for me :P14:34
Rodrigo_de_Olivemas meu ubunto não tem a opção que eu quero14:34
Rodrigo_de_Olivesorry14:34
unrealexeu uso o ubuntu a +- 1h14:34
unrealexe tentei instalar verias vezes o enemy territiry14:34
Rodrigo_de_Oliveaqui vc pode falar só inglês ou espanhol (I'm helping this user)14:34
crsI think he just said that he has kubuntu for about one hour only :P14:34
pfabregatyes and he wants to install a game14:35
Rodrigo_de_Oliveyou're right crs14:35
pfabregattipical :P14:35
unrealexe aparacece uma mensagem a dizer que eu nao tenho privilegios suficientes para tal +-14:35
crs;-)14:35
unrealexe nao sei o que fazer14:35
unrealex:p14:35
crsHmm,. I have got a problem with flash. Doesn't work ;/14:36
pfabregatRodrigo_de_Olive: tell him that he needs to execute the installer with sudo14:36
pfabregatcrs: where? firefox ?14:36
crskonqueror14:36
unrealexi tried that already14:36
unrealexwhit the sudo14:36
Rodrigo_de_Olivehe's talking the following: "I try to install several times the 'enemy territiry'" and, appears a message that he doesn't have possibility to do that14:36
Rodrigo_de_Olivevou tentar te ajudar cara14:36
crspfabregat: I can gray area in place ehere player should be. ;/14:36
crspfabregat: I can see*14:36
unrealexbut the program keps saying that can find the file14:37
pfabregatcrs: in the preferences window of konqueror you have a plugins tab, and in there there's a button called "search for plugins", it searchs in mozilla's folders for differents plugins, included flash14:37
ForgeAus!works for me14:38
ubottuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.14:38
crspfabregat: the same in opera, doesnt work ;/14:38
Rodrigo_de_Oliveunrealex, o cara disse que você precisa executar o instalador c/ sudo14:38
Rodrigo_de_Olivesei lá o que é isso14:38
ForgeAusthanx ubottu14:38
unrealexisso da direitos de super administrador acho eu14:38
ForgeAuswiat ubottu? gained some weight I see14:38
ForgeAuswith an extra t :)14:38
Pici!pt | unrealex14:38
ubottuunrealex: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.14:38
Fyl0nI have two soundcards installed on Kubuntu 8.0414:38
Fyl0nWith the Redmond OS it's possible to go to Start/Configuration Screen/Sound and set one of the cards as default soundcard.14:38
Fyl0nIs this also possible with Kubuntu?14:38
ForgeAusRedmondOS?14:39
Fyl0nWINDOWS14:39
ForgeAusoh I tend to call it Vista or XP14:39
Fyl0nhate to say/type that word..14:39
ForgeAusI think there used to be a Redmond Linux14:39
Fyl0nreally?? haha14:39
ForgeAusyes14:39
Fyl0nlol14:39
ForgeAusI'm almost sure of it14:39
Fyl0nomg14:39
jussi01Fyl0n: "asoundconf list" then "asoundconf set-default-card <card from list>"14:39
ForgeAusalso Xenix was a Unix from Microsoft14:39
crspfabregat: the same. not working after looking for a plugins.14:39
ForgeAusits very outdated now however14:40
unrealex'No write permission to /usr/local/games14:40
BluesKajFyl0n, asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"14:40
unrealex'14:40
Fyl0njussi01: thanx! will try it out! :)14:40
ForgeAus(although parts of it were used for Interix/SFU/SUA)14:40
jussi01:)14:40
Fyl0nBluesKaj: also thanx :O)14:40
Fyl0nXenix was in 83 right? :)14:40
Fyl0nlong time ago14:40
ForgeAusin fact I wouldn't be suprised if parts of Xenix were built into Windows originally14:40
pfabregatcrs: 32 or 64 bit ?14:40
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ForgeAusyes Fyl0n something like that14:40
ForgeAusI don't know the exact date14:41
ForgeAusI'm not going to pretend o14:41
ForgeAusgrr pretend to14:41
Fyl0nForgeAus: well I've got some original documents here of Xenix :)14:41
ForgeAus(this laptop is dropping keys)14:41
BluesKajoh jussi01 is on the job, good ...14:41
crspfabregat: 32. In  about:plugins i have got multiple Shockwave Flash entries ;/14:41
ForgeAusFyl0n ahh fellow oldskooler :)14:41
pfabregatForgeAus, Fyl0n; you talk like bots =/14:41
Fyl0npfabregat: we do??14:41
Rodrigo_de_Olivehey... now, help me again please... how can I change my screen? the resolution currently is 1024x768 but the windows_xp resolution is 1280x1024 and at ubunto this last resolution isn't appear...14:42
ForgeAusunfortunately I'm not a PC user from as far aback as 8086, I come into the game at the 286 era...14:42
ForgeAusDOS3.3 as I recall14:42
Fyl0nForgeAus: same here hehe kewl14:42
ForgeAusback when you'd NEVER fill 2 20MB hard drives14:42
jussi01!ot14:42
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!14:42
Fyl0nForgeAus: you around 30 of age? ;)14:42
ForgeAusgood point Jussi :)14:42
ForgeAus33 in fact14:43
Fyl0nhahaha14:43
pfabregatcrs: odd... how did you install the flash player ?14:43
crspfabregat: via adept i think...14:43
pfabregatcrs: i think i never installed that way... you could try to install the player from the adobe web14:44
* genii sneaks jussi01 a coffee14:44
ForgeAuscan I join a second server on X-Chat?14:44
jussi01ForgeAus: of course!14:44
ForgeAuswhast the command /server (newserver) disconnected me14:44
pfabregatcrs: although via adept should be ok =/14:44
ForgeAusI know in mIRC its server -m14:46
ForgeAusbut in X-14:46
Fyl0nguys it was a pleasure.. I will be back!14:46
Fyl0nand thanx for the support :)14:46
ForgeAuschat its different14:46
ForgeAuscya Fly0n14:46
ForgeAushav fun14:46
Fyl0nthanx! ;)14:46
ForgeAusoops Fyl0n if I can type it right14:46
Dragonathhmm I booted into recovery mode, mounted my sata drive (mount /dev/sda1 /media/sata), chrooted (chroot /media/sata), but then mount didn't show my usb stick anymore14:50
Dragonathfdisk -l gave me an error about accessing /proc/partitions14:50
DragonathI think this might have something to do with the fact that my sata drive is in some kind of raid array14:51
* Dragonath is trying to install grub on his usb stick so he can boot into the hardy he installed on his sata drive which can't be booted by his motherboard14:52
Dragonath"/dev/sdb does not have any corresponding BIOS drive." <-- what does this mean?14:59
Dragonathcame after "grub-install /dev/sdb"15:00
nosrednaekimdid you do this within a chroot?15:00
shane_2_peruDragonath: did you find /boot/stage1 first?15:01
Dragonathnosrednaekim: no, I just tried it out in konsole right now15:01
Dragonathshane_2_peru: I'm afraid that I don't know what you're talking about :)15:02
nosrednaekimDragonath: where are you doing this from?15:02
shane_2_peruDragonath: you are trying to install grub correct, to a usb stick?15:02
Dragonathyes, shane_2_peru15:02
Dragonathso I could boot from the usb stick and have grub load the linux on my sata drive15:03
shane_2_peruDragonath: here is a good guide I just dug up:  http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#How_to_add_Grub_to_your_USB_thumb_drive.15:03
Dragonathaha15:03
shane_2_peruDragonath: I have installed grub many times, and it isn't too hard, installing it to a USB stick should in theory be the same.15:04
DragonathI got some very simple instructions from here too, yes but they didn't work out15:04
DragonathI hope that this tutorial will work15:04
shane_2_peruDragonath: that guide looks like it should work, it has all the steps for setting up grub15:05
shane_2_peruDragonath: I have used similar guide to reinstall grub many times, and it works like a charm.15:05
Dragonathit's just that the linux installation I'm doing this all from is different from the one I want it to boot to15:06
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Dragonathbut as long as I get grub installed I can change the configuration once I boot the thumb drive, right?15:06
dhqi need help i get internet via a modem and i want to broadcast it over my Wirelesscard15:13
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=== Deviance is now known as TimS
Dr_willisdhq - thats ip masquerading,  theres some guides/wiki pages on internet conection shareing. I aint dont it in ages.15:20
Dr_willis!share15:20
ubottuFactoid share not found15:20
Dr_willis!ics15:21
ubottuIf you want to share the internet connection of your ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing - You may also use !firestarter: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php15:21
* genii slides Dr_willis a coffee15:25
Dr_willisim about ready to go to bed. :)15:26
geniiDr_willis: Ah, Ok. <switches it for cocoa>15:27
crs HDIO_GET_UNMASKINTR failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device15:35
crs;/15:35
crshdparm...15:35
crsiny ideas how to check which controller (?) isnt inappriopriate?15:38
geniicrs: What parameter did you use hdparm with?15:40
crsgenii: That is the thing. I didnt change anything. This is after default installation. And this is result just of hdparm /dev/sda15:41
crsI have got three lines like that.15:41
crsanother are: HDIO_GET_DMA and HDIO_GET_KEEPSETTINGS15:41
Dr_willisi dident think one used hdparm on sata type disks.15:43
crsDr_willis: This is not a sata drive. This is PATA (?).15:43
geniicrs: Thats fine and normal. It's probing to see what drive capabilities are, 3 of which don't work for that drive15:43
crsgenii: This is not normal, cos it works in gentoo. ;/15:44
Dr_willisPATA disks are using the new scsi subystem now a days with that libata stuff15:44
Dr_willis!libata15:44
ubottuFactoid libata not found15:44
crsDr_willis: exactly...15:44
Dr_willis!ata15:44
ubottuFactoid ata not found15:44
crs!libsata15:44
ubottuFactoid libsata not found15:44
Dr_willisso hdparm is no longer used to tweak them. I dont know what replaces it however.15:44
llutzsdparm15:44
crsllutz: lovely, thanks a lot. ;-)15:45
crsThanks guys. So i dont have to worry anymore. ;-)15:45
crsOh, have another quiastion. LAst one, i promise. ;)15:46
crsWhere can I find howto how to make a package? I have got a program I am using. I have been updating it quite often. Lets say that i will compile it successfully, how to turn make install into package building?15:47
Jucato!packaging | crs15:48
ubottucrs: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports15:48
Jucato!checkinstall | crs15:48
ubottucrs: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!15:48
crscheckinstall sounds greate ;-)15:48
crsgreat*15:48
crshanks Jucato ;-)15:48
crsOk, that is. I promise. :)15:48
jussi01crs: checkinstall packages are _not_ for redistribution15:49
crsthat's it*15:49
crsjussi01: Can imagine. ;-)15:49
crsIs just for myself.15:49
crsok, lets try to build this. ;-)15:49
crsso many develope packages missing ;)15:52
crsits fun now :)15:52
crsCan i find out somehow which package contains named binnary?15:53
IppatsuMancrs: dpkg -S <binary> if it is already installed, else apt-file search <filename>15:55
llutzcrs: bind915:55
crsIppatsuMan: Thanks. ;-)15:55
crsllutz: ? ;-)15:55
IppatsuMancrs: you're welcome15:56
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crsThis is so quick and easy to use binary distros. :-)15:57
crsI dont have to wait hours again. ;>15:58
tzdwhere can i find out which nvidia driver i need for my geforce fx5200 please?15:58
crstzd: normal nvidia driver (I have the same card)15:58
llutzshould be nvidia-glx15:59
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tzdok thanks! Then I'll leave out the appropriate driver config tool since that one will install the nvidia-glx-new package15:59
waynehi16:01
simihi, i installed kubuntu 8.04 kde4  and i can't change the resolution, i can select my resolution but the Aplly button is disabled, how can i change the screen resolution?16:05
Jucatosimi: #kubuntu-kde416:05
crssimi: vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf. There you can change resolution for X system.16:05
waynejust start with kubuntu16:06
wayneso this is where i come with my problems16:06
ubunturosif a software is available in the repos of kubuntu, community support here is available for that ?16:07
simicrs:  if i know well you can't change anymore the resolon  from xorg.conf16:07
crssimi: really? Why?16:08
waynetried ubuntu and xubuntu so giving kubuntu a whirl16:08
simicrs: ok it is posible but the file  has now a configured video device(in ubuntu)16:09
crsOk. ;-)16:09
crsIt is time for cooking. See you later chaps.16:09
wayneany ladies16:16
franckbonjour16:23
francky a t-il quelqu'un ici16:24
Pici!fr | franck16:26
ubottufranck: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr16:26
drainhello, i need some  help, i set up pure-ftpd and installed pureadmin, i have a users and can log into server, but now how do i share stuff? how to share a partition mounted to /media/multimedi? thanks...16:26
franckpour des renseignements en français ou aller16:27
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uygarhi16:28
fildo_hi guys16:31
fildo_i have seem to booted into hardy16:31
fildo_and i cannot type16:31
fildo_i can move the mouse, to check applications16:32
crsfildo_: How did you type whis msg? ;-)16:32
fildo_im on my laptop16:32
crsthis*16:32
fildo_everything operates find. i just have no ketstrokes what so ever16:32
fildo_find = fine16:33
DragonathI create a bootable fat32 partition on my usb stick with fdisk16:36
Dragonaththen I follow instructions from here - http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#How_to_add_Grub_to_your_USB_thumb_drive.16:36
Dragonathyet still grub loads from my HD instead of the usb stick16:36
Dragonathhowever damn small linux managed to boot off of the stick earlier today16:36
erythrocyteanyone knows how to turn on 'java' in Tools>HTML settings in Konqueror?16:36
Dragonathso what's wrong?16:36
erythrocytefor good i mean16:36
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erythrocytei check/enable 'java' in Tools>HTML Settings, but somehow it reverts back to disabled once konq is restarted or opened a second time16:38
erythrocyteanyone: is there a way for me to enable the 'java' option under Tools>HTML Settings, in Konqueror permanently? it reverts back to disabled, when i restart konqueror16:43
erythrocytejabba: hi! i dunno if you recall, yesterday you tried helping me with my slow bootup problem; thanks for your help...i reinstalled kubuntu today and everything is back to normal!16:46
anirudh0hi...does anyone know when proxy support will work in kde416:49
anirudh0in konqueror and plasma applets16:50
erythrocyte anyone: is there a way for me to enable the 'java' option under Tools>HTML Settings, in Konqueror permanently? it reverts back to disabled, when i restart konqueror16:57
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jabbayarg, i hate reorganizing my office17:11
jabbais there a way to play apple's drm music on leenucks? or crack it?17:11
erythrocyteanybody, can you please tell me how to turn on java permanently in konqueror?17:19
jmmartinsbuenas tardes!!! Donde se pueden ver los procesos que se estan ejecutando?17:21
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rdiazrhola17:24
rdiazrya llegue17:24
rdiazrsi17:25
rdiazr?17:25
rdiazrque paso17:25
rdiazrhay alguien ahi17:25
rdiazr?17:25
rdiazrhi everyone17:25
erythrocytehello rdiazr17:25
rdiazrhi ya http://www.sre.gob.mx/pasaportes/canje/ordi_mayor_edad.htm17:26
rdiazrhow ya thee17:26
rdiazrthere?17:26
rdiazru there?17:26
erythrocyterdiazr: yes17:26
rdiazrkim ya17:26
rdiazras?17:27
rdiazrasl?17:27
erythrocyterdiazr: sorry i'm having a little trouble following you17:28
erythrocyterdiazr: is there something i can help you with?17:28
rdiazroui17:28
rdiazri'm hew here17:28
rdiazrand i need to know about linux17:29
erythrocyterdiazr: i'm rather neonatal myself :) ...shoot17:29
rdiazrok17:29
rdiazri get it17:29
rdiazrhow can i to update my kubuntu17:30
rdiazr?17:30
erythrocyteridiazr: i think you do it via adept17:30
rdiazru there?17:30
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rdiazrok, but i don't understand that tool17:31
rdiazris not easy17:31
erythrocyterdiazr: in a terminal you could just type,  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade17:31
rdiazrthis in command line17:32
erythrocyterdiazr: yea, it's a little confusing for me too17:32
erythrocyterdiazr: yes17:32
rdiazrok17:32
rdiazri get it17:32
rdiazrand that order upate my system17:32
rdiazris it correct?17:33
erythrocyterdiazr: yea...take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes17:33
rdiazrok17:33
erythrocyterdiazr: what version of kubuntu are you using?17:33
rdiazri dont know17:33
rdiazrhow can i to know ?17:33
erythrocyterdiazr: ok, in order to find out type, lsb_release -a17:34
rdiazrok  Description:    Ubuntu 7.0417:34
rdiazrRelease:        7.0417:35
erythrocyteok17:35
rdiazrCodename:       feisty17:35
rdiazrcool u r a guru linux17:35
erythrocyterdiazr: so the way ubuntu handles upgrades with releases like feisty is that it each upgrade takes you incrementally from one version to another....if you want to upgrade to the current 8.04 release, you need to first upgrade to 7.10 and then from there to 8.0417:36
erythrocyteerythrocyte: lol...hardly dude :)17:36
erythrocyterdiazr: i'm a noob myself17:36
erythrocyteanybody, can you please tell me how to turn on java in Tools>HTML Settings permanently in konqueror?17:37
Armagguedesdoes Kub.8-04 support a 2nd monitor out of the VGA port?17:42
Armagguedes(laptop)17:43
jabbaerythrocyte: ever get your init thing figured out?17:49
erythrocytejabba: actually i reinstalled kubuntu and everything's come back to normal...and as for init...i just learned yesterday that runlevels 2-5 are all the same in ubuntu17:50
jabbaeeks, reinstalled17:50
jabbai had no idea that was the case.17:50
erythrocytejabba: yea :( ...it was painful17:50
jabbai wonder what they were thinking. usually 2, 3, and 5 are different, and very importantly so17:51
erythrocytejabba: yea, there is a nice LQ thread somewhere17:51
jabba(and 1 and 6)17:51
jabbaalthough a long time ago i took a redhat box and added a runlevel 8 to it :)17:51
erythrocytejabba: actually, ubuntu uses something called upstart...they've eliminated /etc/inittab by design17:52
erythrocytehttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/since-we-have-no-etcinittab-506281/17:52
jabbahrms17:53
jabbai kinda dislike this brave new world :/17:53
erythrocytejabba: tell me about it :) ...hey i need some help with another problem17:55
jabbai has an answer17:55
erythrocyteis there a way for me to turn on the 'java' option under Tools>HTML Settings in Konqueror permanently?17:55
erythrocyteat the moment i need to keep re-enabling it everytime a new instance of konqueror opens up17:56
jabbai dunno about java, i'm a perl programmer :)17:56
erythrocytejabba: ok :)17:56
jabba!yaquake17:57
ubottuFactoid yaquake not found17:57
jabbahm17:57
anirudh0hi..does anyone know when proxy support will work in konqueror kde4?17:58
Chrysalishey, everywhere i read about konqueror and java it says that all i need to do is install java and restart konqueror (possibly scan for plugins too), but in the plugins options i only see flash and no java18:03
Chrysalisam i missing something?18:03
tandersonerythrocyte--tools/configure konqueror/java & java script/ uncheck use security manager18:03
erythrocytetanderson: lemme give that a try..18:04
erythrocytetanderson: wow! that did it! i'm guessing having it on all the time is a security vulnerability?18:06
erythrocytetanderson: thanks :)18:07
jabba!amarok18:08
tandersonNo problem. I hope it is not a security risk. I guess if you are worried you can turn off global and fill in trusted sites.18:08
ubottuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.8 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok18:08
erythrocytetanderson: something weird just happened, i re-enabled security manager, and the java option still stays on!18:08
erythrocytetanderson: you think this could be a bug?18:08
tandersonNo! there is no bugs. He He. Haven't played with it again.18:09
nighthawkEin hallo in die runde18:10
plut0nashhi18:21
plut0nashcan anyone help me with an issue with USB / Mouse keyboard?18:21
vltHello. For loading audio tracks to an iPhone I use Amarok. Any idea how to get video files there?18:24
vlt!ask > plut0nash18:24
plut0nashI see... Well, I have a problem, when I press key combinations the mouse freezes up. When i release my keys It stops doing so. How do I stop that.18:25
dwidmann_plut0nash: try plugging the mouse in elsewhere maybe?18:26
plut0nashdwidmann_: changed port a few times18:26
dwidmann_plut0nash: something that would be on a different controller if possible ...18:26
plut0nashhmm18:26
plut0nashi figured it's a controller issue18:26
plut0nashi still have a front usb port connector somewhere18:27
* plut0nash goes to look18:27
azzcoKubuntu hardy uses pulseaudio right?18:29
plut0nashdwidmann_: no other possible solution?18:29
dwidmann_plut0nash: I don't know, I just that would be an easy one if you could18:30
dwidmann_only thing I could think of anyhow18:30
plut0nashhmmm18:31
plut0nashheard there was a xorg.conf issue that I could fix18:31
plut0nashlet me google18:31
dwidmann_plut0nash: pastebin it and we'll take a look if you want18:31
azzcoI get some scratchy noises from my webcam mic and I dug out a normal microphone, plugged it into the back of my computer but I don't know how to set it up with pulseaudio =/18:31
plut0nash10-418:32
plut0nashdwidmann_: pastebin of my xorg.conf?18:40
dwidmann_!paste18:40
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)18:40
egorkHello there, anybody has experience connecting a bluetooth a2dp headset?18:41
plut0nashdwidmann_: i know what it is, but what is it you need me to pastebin? :P18:42
egorkIt seem I just can not get it pair with my dongle. It is visible though.18:42
dwidmann_your wording confused me ... like you mentioned, your xorg.conf, yes.18:42
plut0nashahh18:42
plut0nashsorry :)18:42
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plut0nashhttp://pastebin.com/m4d00bb518:43
ubunturosdoes Kubuntu 8.04 DVD work as a LIVE DVD?18:44
plut0nashubunturos: pretty sure it does18:46
ubunturosplut0nash: ok, thanks.18:47
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thierrybonsoir18:56
plut0nashdwidmann_: let me know when you've gone through my conf18:57
austin_Hi.18:58
dwidmann_plut0nash: certainly nothing broke, but I have an experiment for you.18:58
plut0nashok18:59
plut0nashsure18:59
dwidmann_plut0nash: try using evdev. You can get a mostly copy+pastable bit to use as a base for using it from the evdev manpage. On top of that, however, it's useful to use the ``Option "Device" "/dev/input/by-id/[insert device id here]"``19:01
plut0nashmmm19:03
plut0nashok19:03
dwidmann_Don't delete the original keyboard/mouse sections though. Comment them out by placing a # at the beginning of the line in case something goes awry.19:04
plut0nashyeah19:06
plut0nashi was going to say19:06
plut0nash:p19:06
plut0nashi want xorg killing my mouse19:06
plut0nash:p19:06
dwidmann_lol19:07
plut0nasheheh19:08
plut0nashwell19:08
plut0nashwe'll see if works19:08
plut0nashhttp://pastebin.com/m3f4c480519:10
plut0nashmmm19:10
plut0nashok so19:10
plut0nash3 different mouses19:10
n6vkz4jesusDual boot trouble, can any on help me?19:14
dwidmann_n6vkz4jesus: what sort19:14
dwidmann_plut0nash: go into the "by-id" folder in /dev/input, like I showed above :)19:15
n6vkz4jesusI have trouble with a dual boot on a p4 dell.19:15
n6vkz4jesusthe other OS is Vista19:15
n6vkz4jesusFor the rest of the world in my home I have left this on the other hard drive.19:15
n6vkz4jesusthe other trouble is ... I used as the second drive a Seagate backup usb drive FreeAgent Go for Kubuntu19:15
n6vkz4jesusAfter loading it , It went write protect ????19:15
plut0nashahh19:15
plut0nashyeah19:15
plut0nashok19:15
n6vkz4jesusAfter loading it , It went write protect ????19:16
n6vkz4jesusEven after setting it as the HD1 primary boot I still have the trouble.19:16
n6vkz4jesusThe first drive SATA Seagate also with Vista is not able to independent boot with out the usb drive plugin19:16
n6vkz4jesusThe Grub is not on the drive with Kubuntu FreeAgent drive.19:16
n6vkz4jesusSome how it's on Vista drive and can not any longer boot independent19:16
n6vkz4jesusHow dow I get Grub off Vista and what is the file name and it seem to be a hidden file name19:16
n6vkz4jesusWhat a mess I have made19:16
RuyalarPrensiping me plz19:16
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n6vkz4jesusdwiddmann are you able to help19:17
austin_Could someone please tell me how to bring up the graphics card installer thing that is usually on the toolbar?19:18
RuyalarPrensiping send me plssss19:18
dwidmann_n6vkz4jesus: the grub may not be on that drive, but grub probably wrote to the MBR of that drive, which would explain it not booting without that drive.19:18
dwidmann_n6vkz4jesus: the fix should be to install grub to the MBR of the main drive.19:18
n6vkz4jesusI tried that already but still has it on the other drive19:19
dwidmann_austin_: I think it's in System -> Hardware Drivers Manager maybe19:19
n6vkz4jesusI did a whole new install of K....19:20
austin_Thanks, that's it. I feel like an idiot. :( Hopefully once I enable  that, I can use the ATI control center.19:20
austin_Darn, I can't. I really need that to work so I can turn up my brightness,gamma and contrast.19:20
dwidmann_n6vkz4jesus: Well, there's no easy way to remove it from the externals drive ... and to install it to the internals drive you'll need to boot a live cd, then pull up konsole, then run "grub", "root (hd0,0)" (or whichever partition contains your /boot folder), then "setup (hd0)" assuming you want to install it to hd0's MBR.19:21
austin_Maybe I need to reboot first or something.19:21
plut0nashdwidmann_:19:21
nith3Hello is there anybody who can help me with Kubuntu?19:21
plut0nashno such luck19:21
plut0nashwith the evdev driver19:21
plut0nashit's still locking up19:21
austin_Be right back, going to go reboot.19:21
plut0nashi'm going to check bios settings19:21
dwidmann_fglrx-control-envy - Control panel for the ATI graphics accelerators19:22
nith3Plz19:22
dwidmann_plut0nash: kay ... shame that the experiment failed :(19:22
plut0nasheheh19:22
plut0nashits ok19:22
plut0nashi see posts all over19:22
dwidmann_nith3: just ask your question.19:22
plut0nashsaying legacy USB support is an issue19:22
plut0nashso19:22
plut0nash:/19:22
plut0nashyeah19:22
nith3Nice thx19:22
plut0nashi have to see if i lilo will see the kb if i disable legacy support19:22
dwidmann_plut0nash: problem being the keyboard and mouse tend to be legacy usb devices19:23
plut0nashyip19:23
plut0nashwell19:23
nith3I have a problem with the adept manager19:23
plut0nashlike i said19:23
plut0nashi'll see19:23
plut0nash:P19:23
n6vkz4jesusThis may true HD1,1 2nd drive is the one I want it on and not the primary one19:23
plut0nashif it works19:23
plut0nashit works19:23
austin_Do I bring that up in the um.19:23
austin_Terminal?19:23
dwidmann_nith3: details please19:23
nith3It says another application is in action19:23
dwidmann_austin_: "sudo apt-get install fglrx-control-envy" should work, in konsole19:23
n6vkz4jesusthe usb drive is where want the K on19:23
n6vkz4jesusand the boot19:24
dwidmann_austin_: afterwards it may or may not add it to your menu, but you'd probably be able to launch it with a command with a similar name to that19:24
RuyalarPrensidwidmann_: ping for thanx ;)19:24
austin_Thank you, I just started using Linux afew days ago, but it already seems like the Linux community is far more helpful than windows.19:24
dwidmann_n6vkz4jesus: ahh, I see.19:24
nith3when I try to remove or add a program it says the database i busy19:24
dwidmann_n6vkz4jesus: with regards to grub the procedure should be the same though.19:25
nith3<dwidmann>19:25
dwidmann_nith3: do you have another program accessing it (like another instance of apt-get, aptitude, dselect, dpkg, adept, synaptic, etc)19:25
n6vkz4jesuswhy does it go in write protect on the usb drive that has K ?19:25
jussi01!tab | nith319:26
ubottunith3: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.19:26
austin_Okay, I think it's done. What would I type in to open it?19:26
nith3I tried to run JAVA 6 but it would not install it19:26
dwidmann_austin_: I would try typing "fglrx" and then pressing tab to see if it autocompletes to something19:26
n6vkz4jesusI use the Live K... CD to install this all19:26
dwidmann_nith3: depending on the version of kubuntu, installing that can be troublesome, because it requires you to okay something with regards to the license for it (ie: you have to agree to it, but you may or may not get a message telling you to, depending on the version of kubuntu)19:27
austin_Be right back.19:28
dwidmann_n6vkz4jesus: dunno ... are you sure that the filesystems aren't just being mounted read only?19:28
nith3dwidmann_ i found out, but it seems that it made some trouble so i can't upgrade now... 7.0419:29
n6vkz4jesusthat is not normal because when I do it on a PIII chat on currently the install to the sysem went fine but the P4 remote usb drive is the one with the trouble19:29
dwidmann_nith3: what sort of trouble?19:29
dwidmann_!aptfix | nith319:30
ubottunith3: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »19:30
dwidmann_that may help19:30
n6vkz4jesusWhere is grub on the Vista machine so I can allow it to boot narmal as before19:31
nith3ub okay, call me a noob :) i just installed Kubuntu... So what is a terminal ;)19:31
axelHello! I got some serious trouble with Kontact. The most "harmful" one is the loss of E-Mails while syncing the local e-mails with the e-mails stored on the SMTP-Server. In such one incident E-Mails of several months were lost. Can someone tell me what the reason is and how to avoid it?19:31
n6vkz4jesusnormal as before19:31
nith3ubottu: ;)19:32
dwidmann_n6vkz4jesus: if you want to restore the mbr to let vista boot directly instead of being chainloaded by grub, you probalby need to use the vista cd to do a recovery, if that's what you mean19:32
axelnith3: a terminal is a command-line. In Windows-terms: DOS-Box or promt19:33
n6vkz4jesusyes any way with out the recover to find Grub or did it imbed the MBR19:33
nith3axel: ahh, so the commando prompt or what?19:33
axelnith3: something very similar. Yes.19:34
nith3I got it, thx19:34
austin_Aww damn. :( Even with the Control Center it only increases Gamma..19:34
dwidmann_axel: I don't know what the reason is or how to avoid it, but I do know you need to be filing some bug reports on https://bugs.launchpad.net and http://bugs.kde.org19:34
nith3everyone19:34
austin_WHy can't I find anything that will increase gamma,brightness, and contrast?19:34
dwidmann_austin_: try going to systemsettings (or kcontrol) and going to the "monitor and display" module19:35
n6vkz4jesusdwidmann Where is Grub mbr on Vista, or simple to do recovery instead19:36
austin_Nope, it's still only gamma. :(19:37
dwidmann_n6vkz4jesus: the MBR is the master boot record, IIRC this is the very first sector on the hard disk.19:37
axeldwidmann_: As it happened with several IMAP-Servers I thought some would have had the same experiences than me. THe problem is that I can not give the concrete context the bug occures.19:39
n6vkz4jesusdwidmann_ ahhhhh so no way to take off or find the file19:39
dwidmann_axel: then give the vague one? I've made it a point to avoid kmail + IMAP ... just doesn't seem like it works spectacularly in general.19:40
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axeldwidmann_: In My Opinion it would be the perfect solution for KDE as it is highly integrated in KDE3 an will be even more integrated in KDE4. Basically Kontact is OK, but just some bugs are really annoying.19:42
dwidmann_axel: I agree and like the integration, but seeing as it was slow and seemedly buggy I looked for other alternatives after switching to IMAP.19:43
axeldwidmann_: What would be the alternative: Thunderbird lacks of proper calendar functions, Evolution is the GNOME way (on a KDE-mashine I try to choose the KDE-apps if somehow possible), and OpenOffice.org 3.0 with its PIM hasn't been released jet.19:44
dwidmann_axel: first thing I looked at was mailody, but it was buggy and not complete enough yet, I'd like to see it in the future. I've settled for Thunderbird for now ... I've never been one to use calendar functions  though, but assides from that it seems to handle things fine. I haven't had any trouble yet.19:45
axeldwidmann_: It seems that bug reports are the best thing I can do so far. I hoped there was a better solution.19:46
axeldwidmann_: Thunderbird would be the first choice but I need the calendar functionality.19:46
austin_Do any of you guys know of a program I can get that will allow me to change more than just gamma? The default Kubuntu programs only allow Gamma, same with the Catalyst control center. :(19:47
axeldwidmann_: Thanks for the conversation. I'll leave and hack some bug reports.19:48
jussi01austin_: what are you trying to change?19:48
jussi01austin_: specifically?19:48
austin_Basically Contrast,Brightness, and Gamma.19:48
dwidmann_it can probably be altered manually with the xorg.conf, though that's probably a touch more complicated19:48
dwidmann_hmm, I'm not seeing contrast in the xorg.conf man page though, bummer19:49
austin_I have a dark monitor, but I cannot afford to buy another one. So when I used windows I just used the control center for my video card. But, it's not the same on Linux. :(19:49
austin_I think Brightness and gamma would work..I think. But just gamma alone isn't enough since it really messes up colors and so on.19:49
n6vkz4jesusdwidmann I will try to recovery and set usb drive to HD1,1 K... drive and keep the othe independent with MBR on usb drive19:51
n6vkz4jesusI never had the K .... to go write protect till I tried this new P419:52
n6vkz4jesusdwidmann_ thank you for the help today, I will let you know the results19:55
dwidmann_kay then19:56
austin_Think if I posted on some forums someone might know of a program I could get?19:57
f00faustin_: program for what?19:59
farchordman virtualbox rocks, it does about the same thing as vmware in OSX, works in seamless mode :D19:59
f00ffarchord: virtualbox is the FOSS one right?20:00
farchordFOSS?20:00
f00fFree Open Source (Software)20:00
farchordyeah20:00
austin_Program for increasing brightness,gamma and contrast. All I can find on Kubuntu so far is for gamma.20:00
f00faustin_: hmm.. you can't do that on your monitor's panel?20:01
austin_It doesn't get bright enough.20:02
austin_This monitor is kind of messed up, but I can't afford to buy a new one.20:02
austin_When I used windows, I'd use programs to make it brighter.20:02
f00fhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-149539.html <-- there's a post by jjordan that might help you20:03
simonhey guys20:03
jussi01hi simon20:03
austin_Thank you, but sadly I have a crt.. :(20:03
jussi01austin_: have a look into the powermanagement stuff - I know laptops can adjust brightness20:04
austin_I'm using a desktop.20:04
simongrrr... what problems could there be that my monitor won't let me change the 640x480 resolution?20:05
jussi01austin_: I understand that - but I dont see a reason why it shouldnt work fr a desktop as well as a laptop20:06
jussi01simon: which gfx card you have?20:06
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jussi01!fixres | simon20:06
ubottusimon: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto20:06
simoni've got an ATI Radeon20:07
simonthe strange thing is20:07
austin_Just gives me the option to turn the monitor off after a certain amount of time.20:07
jussi01!ati | simon20:07
ubottusimon: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto20:07
jussi01simon: that guide is for 9500 and newer iirc20:08
simonit worked after i install kubuntu (hardy kde3 btw) and i didn't change the drivers, but after first reboot it wouldn't let me change to a higher res20:08
simonif i change to the restricted drivers via the restricted drivers manager it will let me change res, but only 640x480 or less20:09
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azzcoI can't install libqt4-dev (trying to compile something), it breaks..20:22
rootsnatchhow does it break?20:22
afeijohi, I installed Freeciv thru adept, how can I find his folder?20:23
azzcorootsnatch: dunno adept just says it breaks when I mark it for install20:24
afeijoI try konsole find command20:24
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azzcoOh apt-get gave more info..20:25
azzcoBut it shouldn't break? o.O It's just that it depends on some other packages that has a too high version..20:26
dekansmaybe all the upgraded package have not benn oploaded on repos yet20:29
crsre20:29
crsOk, it is time to move kubuntu to fastest hard drive. ;-)20:30
crsreplace gentoo. ;p20:30
simihi, i belive i found a bug, i changed my time zone and now i get this error :sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May 23 05:15:45 2008, i need a way to reset the sudo actions to not check the last time it was used20:33
simior maybe is not the probem?20:33
simii wil try to restart, hope it will work, pease answer after i will rejoin20:34
geniisimi: Without sudo action is difficult to set. I'd just wait til the time your files were created passes20:34
austinHave any of you guys used "gddccontrol" before?20:37
squirrel_Hi guys, I hope this IRC is a bit slower and not like the running matrix code (#ubuntu)20:38
austinHello,Mr.Anderson.20:39
vltHello. How can I add a cover image to a video file in Amarok?20:40
crsHmm, why there is no wheel group by default in kubuntu? ;-)20:41
rootsnatchvlt I don't think it is possible20:42
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squirrel_Does anybody know when TOMCAT 6 get packaged for 8.04 SERVER? I installed it manually but now TOMCAT 6 runs with root privileges and I really don't like that...20:43
gekkooi want to use my s-video out port to connect my laptop with a tv...has anybody got it working?20:43
simirestart worked :-)20:43
vltrootsnatch: Ok, thank you.20:44
rootsnatchvlt: I am not sure so keep googling, but I don't think so20:44
vltrootsnatch: I need it now or never ;)20:44
Steve-calCan someone just quickly clarify for me what is the kubuntu "alternate" LiveCD and the "desktop" CD?20:46
rootsnatchthe alternative is just the text based installer20:46
Strick^9Hmmm anyone know where the 'Breezy' updates disappeared to?20:46
rootsnatchthe desktop includes a graphical live cd as well as graphical installer20:46
geniiStrick^9: No longer supported and went past End Of Life support20:47
athlon1Hallo. I use kdetv for watching TV, but i'm trying to record. But unable with mythtv. So trying with freevo. But also with problems. Anyone uses freevo? What do i have to do to record?20:47
Steve-calrootsnatch: OK, thanks much. :)20:47
Strick^9genii: TY .... which alternatives would be best?20:48
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malik^^^hi all20:51
malik^^^can any one let me know the correct tutorial of installing nvidia drivers on kubuntu 8,0420:52
squirrel_I have this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/10/27/how-to-install-nvidia-video-card-drivers-in-debian-lenny/20:53
Strick^9malik^^^: I was able to use Apps, System, Hardware Drivers Manager .... in Ubuntu20:53
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malik^^^i tried that and it isntalled the drivers but asked for a reboot and when rebooted it waits for ever at running bootup scripts rc.local20:54
geniiStrick^9: I'd suggest Gutsy (7.10) or Hardy (8.04)20:56
Strick^9genii: TY ... I think I'll try Hardy as I'm running ubuntu 8.04 with KDE added after the fact ...20:57
austinHey.21:00
austinDo you know what codec I need to listen to radio stations on amarok?21:00
austinIt says no available decoder or something.21:01
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crsOk, at first we have to backup previous distro21:06
crsaustin: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ21:07
crsaustin: find there about mp3 support.21:07
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athlon1Please, anyone can tell me how  can I record tv?21:14
bin4ryhi together21:23
saapadI woke up today and Eclipse started acting up all of a sudden. It won't start...is it just me?21:23
bin4ryhow can one logout from kde via shell?21:23
clau30bin4ry: try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop21:23
basculethat will kill x too though, but it will work21:23
bin4ryclau: der window manager soll aktiv bleiben21:24
bin4ryclau: the window manager should stay active21:24
clau30you mean X?21:24
bin4ryx as well as kdm shall stay active21:24
clau30hmm..21:24
clau30dunno then :)21:24
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ForgeAuswhy not just use logout ?21:26
ForgeAusthe command logout ?21:26
ForgeAuswouldn't that log out kde/kdm too ?21:26
ForgeAusor is the shell login an independant  process? (assuming your not using the shell via konsole or some such app)21:27
blekoshi kubuntu does not automount my ntfs drives despite the fact that i have enabled the automount option21:27
blekoswhen i click on moun i get a message "system policy prevents.." and asks for psswd21:28
blekosafter i enter the psswd drive(s) are connected ok21:28
etretyakblekos: whey should automount if you have them in your /etc/fstab21:32
artur__Hi folks, i have 2 computers, one running de linux ( that will be the server - 2 LAN cards eth0 and eth1) and the other with the MS Win. The one with Linux will receives the internet (will be connected with a cable modem) the other Eth will be connected to another pc (MS Win) with cross-over cable. What should i do to make the other PC access the internet the 'arrives' in the PC (server) running Linux?21:40
clau30artur__: iptables is your friend :)21:41
clau30although not that trivial to configure21:41
athlon1artur, and configure a proxy (squid?).21:42
artur__=/ oic!21:45
clau30artur__: try googleing..21:46
artur__clau30: i will!  Thanks v much!21:48
clau30no probs & good luc21:48
clau30k21:48
crsis there any way to make output of apt-* more readable?21:51
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clau30crs: what do you mean more readable... it is quite readable imho21:52
leftbasi agree21:52
clau30use aptitude/adept :)21:52
leftbasbetter than make21:53
crsI mean more colorful and stuff, like paludis or emerge has a brilliant output, showing dependencies trees and stuff21:56
leftbasafaik, there are no options to change the color of the output21:57
clau30well apt is not emerge..21:58
leftbasyeah, but you don't have to wait a package to compile, either21:59
leftbasso it's a trade-off, i guess21:59
crsi know, but long list of dependencies is highly unreadable for me. ;/21:59
crsleftbas: I know. Im not saying about way it works, but output readibility :)22:00
leftbascrs: gotcha22:01
clau30crs: maybe use aptitude?22:01
clau30it actually shows a nice list of dependencies22:01
leftbasclau30: is that the gtk one?22:01
crsthats a thing, i prefere to use cmdline one...22:01
clau30no, console based22:01
crsoo...22:02
clau30aptitude is ncurses22:02
clau30:)22:02
leftbasoh, it's it's a full screen command-like interface22:02
leftbasneat-o22:02
leftbaslol22:02
leftbaslike pine or lynx22:02
clau30it's actually very cool, a little hard to get used at first, but good at the end22:02
clau30yea sort of :)22:03
farchordmaaan I wonder, should I take out a small loan to buy a laptop....22:03
farchordI'm thinking of getting me a Dell22:03
leftbasyou can get good ones for about $50022:03
leftbascertainly models that'll run linux22:03
farchordleftbas: Actually the one I was aiming for is about 1200$22:03
leftbasfarchord: that's a bit more - lol22:04
clau30farchord: do you really need one? can you pay the money back w/o huge .. taxes (or however it's called)22:04
farchordclau30: interest? well 1200$ is (According to their site) about $32 a month22:04
farchordaltho I'd probably pay closer to 70-100$ myself22:04
leftbashey, aptitude is mouse-aware, too...nifty ;)22:04
clau30that sucks22:04
farchordconsidering I can pay it in advance and the faster it is, the best it is22:04
clau30better put some money aside and then buy one22:05
leftbasi'm lucky, i "inherited" a nice hp nx9020 from my company ;)22:05
farchordyeah I'm just really itchin' for one22:05
clau30leftbas: lol22:05
crsHmm, I hate flash. I really do!22:06
crsIt is not working again. ;/22:06
Armagguedesi have no probs with flash22:07
crslucky you :)22:07
Armagguedesbut then again i installed the stuff that's on the Medibuntu's repos22:07
crsMedibuntu?22:07
Armagguedesinstead of that gnash crap22:07
Armagguedesyes22:07
Armagguedeslook it up22:07
Armagguedesvery useful22:07
Armagguedesit's the only 3rd party repository worth having22:07
crsArmagguedes: Where can i find more info?22:07
Armagguedeswww.medibuntu.com methinks22:07
leftbasflash works really well for me with firefox, about 90% with konqy22:07
crsleftbas: konqy here.22:08
Armagguedesyeah flash in konqueror "works"22:08
clau30Armagguedes: a little hard to call it "gnash crap".. you have to admire what they're doing22:08
Armagguedesi didn't say i didn't admire it22:08
leftbasArmagguedes: it does on my machine at home22:08
navetzcan someone please help me. I have a LAMP server installed but I cannot access localhost when I am offline (I can when I am offline). Can someone please help me fix this22:08
Armagguedesi could use it, when it works22:08
farchordleftbas: I had a problem where a flash video would crash firefox (youtube for example) but I think I fixed it22:08
leftbasfarchord: if you're using a version of ubuntu other than the x86 version, it's a tough nut to crack22:09
clau30navetz: hmm22:09
leftbasfarchord: it never worked for me with the amd version of kubuntu, for instance22:09
clau30navetz: how do you try to access it?22:09
Armagguedesactually i think that flash has loads of problems with 64bit processors22:10
navetzclau30: i have tried 127.0.0.1 and http://localhost22:10
farchordleftbas: maybe you should try to download the x86 firefox? Just a thought?22:10
clau30navetz: funny.. that should work regardless if you are online or not22:10
leftbasfarchord: i would if i still had that version on my hard drive. i gave it up and went back to the x86 version22:10
farchordahh22:10
navetzclau30: yea I know, its actually really annoying22:11
leftbasfarchord: besides, i like konqy better, and there was too much tweaking to do22:11
clau30navetz: I would actually need more detail on that but don't really know what :)22:11
farchordleftbas: I find konqueror buggy and screws up websites22:11
navetzclau30: I tried a lot of things, even purging apache and reinstalling it but that didn't work.22:12
leftbasfarchord: it's pretty consistently good for me, but there are sites that don't load right. there are sites, though, that konqy will open that ff won't. pretty weird22:12
crsArmagguedes: but medibuntu doesn't contain flash as I can see now. ;/22:12
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farchordleftbas: yeah.... idk right now I have a pretty comfortable setup.... Kubuntu with most of the apps that I want and need and works, and Virtualbox with XP working in seamless mode for the rest22:13
Armagguedesnot the site itself22:13
Armagguedesthey package Adobe's for ubuntu22:13
farchordleftbas: that and I play Linux in WoW ;) heard that AoC will also work in Wine :D22:13
Armagguedesthe most recent version too22:13
clau30navetz: have you tried pinging 127.0.0.1 when offline?22:13
farchordleftbas: errr wow in linux22:13
leftbasfarchord: good going. i'm lucky that i don't need windows anymore. i just got my treo 680 to sync to kontact22:13
leftbasfarchord: what's wow?22:14
farchordleftbas: yeah im not as lucky with my ipod touch, linux is detecting it as a digital camera <.< World of Warcraft22:14
trypsinleftbas: I think he's referring to World of Warcraft.22:14
farchordleftbas: If you don't know world of warcraft, you must be living under a rock22:14
leftbasfarchord: oh! i love that episode of southpark22:14
farchordlawl22:14
leftbasjust didn't know it by its initials :p22:14
trypsinSuuure. :P22:14
navetzclau30: yes and it works22:15
navetzclau30: however i cannot view it through any browser22:15
leftbasfarchord: there are still a couple of quirks with my treo, but it's managable. it's the first time i've ever gotten it to work at all22:15
clau30navetz: is the port open?22:15
farchordleftbas: fact is, WoW is a Windows game. And in OGL mode, it runs faster than in Windows for me22:15
leftbasfarchord: nice22:15
navetzclau30: what port? I am not sure what you mean.22:15
farchordleftbas: altho, granted, my Windows is Windows Vista :P22:16
leftbasfarchord: eek!22:16
leftbaslol22:16
clau30navetz: well normally port 80 should be open22:16
clau30navetz: "normally" for apache22:16
navetzclau30: how can I check?22:16
clau30navetz: good question :D22:17
leftbasthat's a great question...how do you get a list of all the udp ports and their states?22:17
crsnetstat?22:17
simihi, i am new to kubuntu, i was using ubuntu, i do not understend why konversation and pidgin start automaticaly when i log in?22:17
clau30navetz: google is a good friend :) http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/security-guide/s1-server-ports.html22:18
crssimi: session saving.22:18
simiwhere can i change the atart up applications?22:18
crsflashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.22:18
crsand is still not working ;/22:18
leftbasyou have to set them indiviually22:18
simicrs: i killed the apps before restarting22:19
simiwhere can i find the sesion manager>22:19
simi?22:19
crskcontrol22:19
crssimi: ^^22:19
crsor in menu, cos i think has been changed.22:20
crsSystem settings22:20
leftbassimi: do you mean the services manager?22:20
navetzclau30:  thanks I am trying it out right now22:20
simileftbas: no i mean the applet that manage the sesion and the  programs that start at log in22:21
crsdamn flash ;/22:21
ObsidianXhey folks, for some reason whenever i login it switches my resolution down to 640x48022:21
ObsidianXi can xrandr it back up to 1280x800 but then all my apps are loaded at the wrong resolution and it looks all messed up22:22
navetzclau30: yes the ports are open now, let me see if they will be when I turn off my internet22:22
clau30navetz: ok, look :)22:22
leftbassimi: sounds like the system services, which is in the control center22:23
leftbassimi: sorry, system settings22:23
crsok, i have installed gnash, works fine, but w/o sound ;/22:30
crsok, doesnt work fine ;/22:30
trypsinAlright, I'm in need of a little help. I've installed Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04 on my laptop. I'm not particularly fond of GNOME, though and want to go to KDE.22:31
trypsinUnfortunately, I've got a lot of data and a few programs I'm attached to in this system.22:31
trypsinSo, is there a way to remove GNOME and install KDE some way short of a fresh install?22:32
clau30trypsin: you can start by removing gnome-desktop-environment22:33
crsOk, once again. What should i install to get flash working?22:33
clau30although I dunno if it's only a metapackage22:34
kuroryuutrypsin: install kubuntu-desktop to get the basic kde stuff22:34
clau30crs: set your browser to use flash-nonfree22:34
trypsinAye, I know that, kuroryuu. I don't want to be stuck with both GNOME and KDE, though. The combined updates will be murder.22:34
trypsinSo simply installing kubuntu-desktop and removing gnome-desktop-environment will do the trick?22:36
clau30I dunno if it's only a metapackage22:36
clau30maybe the #ubuntu guys know how to remove gnome :D22:36
crsIt is only metapackage, he has to do apt-get autoremove as well22:37
kuroryuutrypsin: try removing libgnome-2.0, that should remove most gnome packages22:37
trypsinOK, I'll ask them. On a related note, would Remastersys be a wise choice for backing up my present system?22:38
trypsinThanks, kuroryuu. I'll try that.22:38
kuroryuutrypsin: sorry, libgnome2-022:40
ugakuroryuu: find / -name g* -exec rm -rf {} \;22:40
ugadont' forget sudoing it ;)22:40
trypsinOh, lovely. :P22:41
kuroryuuuga: I don't think that would solve the problem, lol22:42
clau30uga: g* ??22:42
ugaclau30: yups, die g* die ;)22:43
ugaactually that should have been 'g*'22:43
clau30hehe22:43
clau30die g*ome :)22:43
crsHmm, what options kubuntu installer uses to make reiserfs partition?22:45
ugacrs: you mean sector size etc?22:46
crsuga: exactly. I have install my kubuntu now and want to move it to other disc. Want to have exactly the same partition. ;-)22:46
crsuga: I can just run mkfs.reiserfs, but... :)22:47
ugacrs: I really don't know but you should be able to check what partition it created before22:47
crsuga: Do you know how?22:48
darewhat is like /home/user/.themes in kde? kubuntu? /home/user/.themes is folder where are GTK themes22:48
darein gnome22:48
ugacrs: I was trying to figure out myself. reiserfsck doesn't seem to do that. MAybe it will display the params when it checks22:49
ugacrs: but Id' suggest you do that with the partition umounted22:49
crsuga: Why? what is the difference?22:49
fenixhi22:49
fenixsombody help me?22:50
kuroryuufenix: what's the problem?22:50
ugacrs: it's not suggested doing file system checks when the partition can be writing and reading22:50
clau30dare: I guess /usr/share/apps/kthememanager/themes22:50
fenixhow to install a webcan of the laptop HP dv2625la in kubuntu822:50
druwhats a rar tool for kubuntu22:51
ugadru: apt-get install unrar22:51
druthanks22:51
ugait'll only extract them22:51
kuroryuudru: sudo apt-get install rar unrar22:51
druthats better thanks22:51
jhutchins_wk!webcam | fenix22:51
ubottufenix: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras22:51
UkonpoikaHi all. Having a problem with Noatun and Juk, neither will start. Konsole doesn't say _anything_ while trying to start from there, and reinstalling doesn't help either. I recently installed the Octoshape plugin from http://www.octoshape.com/plugin/linux.asp, the problems appeared after that, but I can't be sure of any connection between that and the problem. Help, anyone? :)22:52
crsuga: Oh, you meant checking.. Ok, i have done it already. ;-) Now, how to copy running system?22:52
fenixmy webcam i know not is suported22:52
dareclau30: thanks thats it22:52
ugacrs: I mean, when doing the filesystem check, possibly it will show the parameters at the beginning22:53
ugablocksize etd22:53
ugaetc22:53
crsuga: yes, thanks. ;-)22:53
ugacrs: if the disks were both same size, maybe you could just dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb?22:54
ugabut I'm guessing not22:54
clau30dare: cool :)22:54
crsuga: no, they are not.22:54
crsuga: will cp -a do the job?22:54
ugacrs: uhm... maybe, but not sure. Whenever I needed serious backups I used tarballs22:55
crsuga: yeah, but it is not a backup :)22:55
ugacrs: it somewhat is22:55
ugasince you need to keep timestamps etc22:55
ugaalso links and symlinks22:56
crsuga: yeah, would be lovely to have it... ;/22:56
leftbasanyone home?23:01
SlimeyPetenah23:02
leftbaslol23:02
leftbaslots of folks in here not saying much23:02
leftbasdo you know anything about kpilot, pete?23:03
clau30:d23:03
SlimeyPetesorry, no23:03
leftbashey clau3023:03
leftbasthanks anyway23:03
clau30sry, wrong window leftbas23:03
leftbasbeen trying to get a question answered today on several channels, and no one seems to know23:03
leftbasclau30: i tried #kpilot, but no one in there is talking23:04
clau30yea I can imagine..23:04
leftbasclau30: oh, i don't think i knew what you mean till just now. no worries23:04
clau30haha23:04
azzcoleftbas: tried #kde ? I think that there's a kde-pim channel aswell..23:04
leftbasazzco: i haven't, but i will. thanks23:05
azzcoI'm getting utterly ignored in ubuntu and even in my native language channel =/23:05
azzcoAnyone used pulseaudio and recordmydesktop and got it working?23:05
leftbasit's a quiet day all around, isn't it?23:05
leftbasazzco: never tried23:05
leftbassorry23:05
clau30azzco: I did but I won't tell you :P23:07
tabris:O23:07
leftbaslol23:08
* azzco goes and bangs head into wall23:08
leftbasazzco: that should clear your head right up ;)23:08
Israphel:O23:08
duaneif I want to scan a book with linux what would be the best app ? I used abby finereader in windows and it was nice cause you do a page and then it have option to do next page and keep compiling it into a pdf wondering if there was a linux app can do same23:08
Israpheli need help with the Atheros wireless card23:09
leftbasduane: kooka should do the trick23:09
izzybIs linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-17-xen the correct package to get the nvidia kernel module?23:10
Israphelapt-get instal envyng-core for the nvidia driver23:10
nosrednaekimnoooo23:10
duanethanks leftbas23:10
leftbasduane: yw23:10
dwidmannIs there any program around with a CD printing template? (My printer lets me print to CDs/DVDs, but without a usable template for printing with I can't really do it)23:11
izzybIsraphel, nope, didn't fix my probllem :(23:11
leftbasnever tried23:11
leftbascd printing, that is23:11
adudei need a program to record the line in.23:12
viperserv1anyone good with gnome here?23:12
leftbastry audacity23:12
adudeok23:12
dwidmannviperserv1: plenty of people good with gnome in #ubuntu I'm sure23:12
leftbasi would try #ubuntu, viper23:12
viperserv1what is the diff between kubuntu and ubuntu?23:13
leftbasadude: audacity is quite a nice cross-platform multi-track recorder23:13
leftbasubuntu uses gnome by default23:13
dwidmannviperserv1: kubuntu uses KDE23:13
leftbaskubuntu uses kde23:13
leftbasoops23:13
Israphelizzyb, first sudo apt-get install envyng-core, then envyng -t, option 1 "install nvidia driver"23:13
izzybIsraphel, sadly that failed with an error saying the driver can't be installed with my current kernel.  it suggests pretty much every kernel except the -xen one23:16
izzybdoes nvidia driver not work with the xen kernel?23:16
Israphelwhy dont you use the generic kernel?23:16
dwidmannizzyb: try installing manually?23:17
izzybI have itt working in the generic kernel, but I want to run xen also on this box23:17
izzybit was working with tthe ati radeon driver, but I had to replace the ati card because it was crashing my system23:17
izzybnot sure if it was the card or the driver, but suspect the driver23:17
izzybdwidmann, do you have a howto?23:18
izzybI tried manually loading the nvidiafb module, but it gives an error23:18
dwidmannizzyb: basically it amounts to download the thing from nvidia.com, install build-essential and linux-headers-`uname -r`, exit out of X and run the file ... you'll also need to add a line in /etc/defaults/linux-restricted-modules or some for file (I'll dig it up)23:19
izzybhmm, interesting, I was going to post the error I was getting when I did a modprobe nvidiafb, but that error is now gone23:21
izzybbut still I get an error running startx23:21
dwidmannizzyb: /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common - the line is DISABLED_MODULES="nv"23:21
izzybdwidmann, thanks, trying that now23:22
jeremeanyone know if FF3RC1 is hitting the standard repositories anytime soon?23:23
junezraulstonhi23:23
leftbasthat was fast23:23
leftbaswb clau3023:23
jeremeI'm a bit worn out on 3b5's busted form capabilities23:24
clau30thanks leftbas ;)23:24
leftbasclau30: yw23:24
leftbasi have the nv driver running with 2.6.24-16 with only one small resolution glitch on the logon screen23:26
leftbasworks great other than that23:26
clau30anyone have experience with ati xpress cards?23:28
leftbas'fraid not23:29
nosrednaekimclau30: yes! I do23:29
clau30nosrednaekim: how much does it suck? :)23:29
nosrednaekimclau30: not good ones though :) I have one23:29
clau30nosrednaekim: it's onboard on my lappy23:29
nosrednaekimclau30: they have terrible performance... a geforce4 can wipe it out...23:30
clau30nosrednaekim: well I would be happy if they's work at full potential here under linux23:30
nosrednaekimyou can try intalling the ATI driver.23:30
clau30nosrednaekim: I did.. but sometimes a problem here, another time there..23:31
nosrednaekimyea.. I know...i'm running the opensource driver ATM23:31
clau30quite sick of it.. on my desktop I have an older nvidia onboard and it's waaay better23:31
nosrednaekimno 3d, but this things 3d sucks anyway23:31
clau30:)23:31
clau30maybe I should try that too..23:32
clau30http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8974022075.html23:35
clau301,500 frkkin bucks!23:35
izzybdwidmann, that didn't work for me either.  It can't find precompiled kernel interface that matches the kernel.  Told it to attempt a download which fails and tells me it'll need to build one, but that fails also23:35
izzybno obvious reason why it fails.  it  points to a log, but it doesn't say anything meaningful23:36
izzybdoes the nvidia driver work with a xen kernel?23:37
leftbasclau30: that's a bit pricey :O23:38
* jhutchins_wk doesn't get "lappy". It's one less letter than 'laptop', and looks a lot dumber.23:39
clau30leftbas: yea, but it's for developers anyway23:39
nosrednaekimclau30: go get a ubuntu Dell23:40
leftbastrue enough23:40
clau30jhutchins_wk: haha23:40
clau30I have a dell, although not a ubuntu one23:40
clau30jhutchins_wk: "lappy" sounds sweeter23:41
leftbaskinda like the british 'telly'23:42
Ashexhey guys23:42
* izzyb just discoverd that nvidia and xen are not compatabile out of the box but there is a patch. following a howto now...23:42
leftbasor 'nappy' for diaper23:42
Ashexwhat's the name of the failsafe video mode on the live disc?23:42
clau30tally ho, with a bing and a bong and a buzz-buzz-buzz23:42
leftbaswhat the heck is the xen kernel anyway?23:42
AshexWhen you startup you can select a failsafe video mode, but can't remember the name of it23:42
nosrednaekimleftbas: virtualization23:42
labudhi23:43
leftbasnosrednaekim: you mean you need a special kernel to run in a virtual machine?23:43
leftbashi labud23:43
nosrednaekimleftbas: if you use xen, yes23:43
labudhow r u23:43
Ashexanyone?23:43
leftbaswhich brings me back to my original question...what's xen?23:43
nosrednaekima virtualization hypervisor23:43
nosrednaekim!xen23:43
ubottuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen23:43
leftbaslabud: fine, and you?23:43
jhutchins_wkleftbas: Either Novell's Zero Effort Networking or a virtualization service.23:44
labudgood     i am going to be installing kubuntu 8.0423:44
leftbasgot it...but it's way over my head - lol23:44
nosrednaekim^_^23:44
labudonto a brand new sata ii hd   and was wondering if there might be any issues?23:44
leftbasnot that i know of23:44
Ashexbugger23:44
labudgood23:44
Ashexthen is an easy question23:44
leftbasshould be pretty straightforward23:44
Ashex!nox23:45
ubottuFactoid nox not found23:45
Ashex!noxserver23:45
ubottuFactoid noxserver not found23:45
Ashex!novideo > me23:45
labudi have burned the iso cd  so when i connect my new hd in i shud just boot from cd?23:45
leftbasAshex: it should just say failsafe. i've never seen it labeled anything else23:45
leftbaslabud: exactly23:46
labudgr823:46
Ashexleftbas: hit F4 and failsafe?23:46
leftbasAshex: that sounds about right, though i'd have to reboot the machine i'm on to confirm23:46
Ashexokay23:46
Ashexleftbas: works for me23:46
AshexIf it doesn't work for my friend, he'll have to wait until I get off work23:46
leftbasAshex: it's more obvious when booting from the live cd, tho23:47
clau30nighty night23:49
leftbassee ya clau3023:49
leftbasgetting late in europe ;)23:50
labudwhile i am here   the machine i am installing it on is  an Asus P5KC 3.0gHZ with Intel core 2 duo  4.0mb ram and nVidia GeForce 8500  and a Dlink nic card  with a linksys router23:51
labudsee any issues there?23:51
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leftbaslabud: i see no problems with any of that gear23:51
labudok   then i can come and c u when it blows up   lol23:52
leftbassure...i live at 123 sesame street. i share an apartment with big bird23:52
leftbas;)23:52
leftbaswb fadonnn23:53
labudhehe   ok23:53
labudty leftbas23:53
leftbaslabud: seriously, all those components are very mainstream, and have been shown to work with various distros23:53
leftbaslabud: yw23:53
labudjk  leftbas  i thank you for your info   but am nervous  of course    have just startes with kubuntu     have 7.10  on this machine23:54
labudanyways  time to get on with it  thanks again23:55
leftbaslabud: understandable, but it'll be fine. you might even consider upgrading to 8.04 yourself. it's a big improvement, imo23:55
leftbasno prob23:55
leftbassee ya23:55

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