[19:00] <Rinchen> I see mootbot has abandoned us again
[19:00] <Rinchen> Welcome to this week's Launchpad development meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating Launchpad development.
[19:00] <Rinchen> Roll Call
[19:00] <thumper> me
[19:00] <schwuk> me
[19:00] <mrevell> me
[19:00] <Rinchen> me
[19:00] <mars> me
[19:00] <barry> me
[19:00] <flacoste> me
[19:00] <adeuring> me
[19:00] <herb> me
[19:00] <abentley> me
[19:00] <al-maisan> me
[19:00] <Rinchen> apologies received from several at UDS and Brazil (holiday)
[19:01] <statik> me
[19:01] <mthaddon> me
[19:01] <sinzui> me
[19:01] <bac> me
[19:01] <EdwinGrubbs> me
[19:02] <Rinchen> BjornT, danilo_, jml, leonardr, ping if you're around
[19:02] <Rinchen> ok, small crowd today
[19:02] <thumper> gee, that isn't many
[19:02] <danilo_> me
[19:02] <stub> me
[19:03] <Rinchen> Yeah, I suggested skipping today but kiko wanted us to run with it...so we shall
[19:03] <danilos> replacing for jtv today, though not feeling too well myself
[19:03] <Rinchen> Agenda
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * Next meeting
[19:03] <salgado> me
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * Actions from last meeting
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * Oops report (Matsubara)
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * Critical Bugs (Rinchen)
[19:03] <salgado> sorry
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * Bug tags
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * Operations report (mthaddon/herb)
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * DBA report (stub)
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen)
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * New packages required (salgado)
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)
[19:03] <Rinchen>  * Doc Team report (mrevell)
[19:03] <Rinchen> thanks danilos
[19:03] <Rinchen> Next meeting
[19:03] <Rinchen> next week, same time, same channel
[19:03] <Rinchen> any known absences?
[19:04] <Rinchen> Actions from last meeting
[19:04] <Rinchen> none that remain open
[19:04] <Rinchen> Oops report (Matsubara) - proxied by mrevell
[19:04] <mrevell> Hi
[19:04] <mrevell> Today's oops report is about bugs 232494, 232528, 234072, 47864, 234078, 234083
[19:05] <mrevell> #232494 is one for salgado, his recent fix in the +editsshkey form introduced the error. :-)
[19:05] <mrevell> jtv, can you take #232528?
[19:05] <thumper> I thought bug 234072 was fixed a *long* time ago
[19:05] <mrevell> thumper: I'll pass that back to matsubara
[19:05] <mrevell> thumper, can you take care of #234072, #234078, #234083?
[19:05] <Rinchen> danilos, for jtv  on 232528
[19:06] <thumper> mrevell: but apparently it isn't
[19:06] <danilos> mrevell: jtv's not around
[19:06] <mrevell> okay, thanks danilos. I'll email him.
[19:06] <mrevell> Looking for volunteers for 47864.
[19:06] <Rinchen> danilos, you're supposed to say "yeah sure he'll take it"  :-)
[19:06] <mrevell> :)
[19:06] <danilos> mrevell: this was probably caused by jtv himself
[19:06] <mrevell> Any volunteers for 47864?
[19:07] <danilos> mrevell: I can't imagine many people hacking those URLs themselves
[19:07] <Rinchen> mrevell, maybe email the list on the distro series one
[19:07] <mrevell> Rinchen: Okay, thanks, will do.
[19:07] <mrevell> Thanks, then, everyone. That's all.
[19:07] <danilos> oh, not really, it seems to include some JS instead
[19:07] <Rinchen> thanks mrevell
[19:07] <Rinchen> Critical Bugs (Rinchen)
[19:08] <Rinchen> No critical issues remain open. Yay! :-) Thank you!
[19:08] <Rinchen> We have an issue with staging updates.  A DB patch is failing to apply.  A fix is (or will be very shortly) on PQM and bumped to the top.
[19:08] <Rinchen> Bug tags
[19:08] <Rinchen> we have one by Diogo
[19:08] <Rinchen> but he's not here and we're short on attendees so I'm going to skip that
[19:08] <Rinchen> we'll come back to it next week
[19:08] <Rinchen> Operations report (mthaddon/herb)
[19:09] <herb> 2008-05-16: Demo was updated
[19:09] <herb> 2008-05-19: lpnet4 had died - restarted
[19:09] <herb> 2008-05-20: Cherry pick to lpnet* to fix bug #228132
[19:09] <herb> Seems like we've been having more problems with codebrowse/loggerhead recently. It has a tendency to grow to ~1.5GB RSS. This causes swapping and the expected performance issues that go along with it. I think mwhudson is aware of the proble
[19:09] <herb> m.
[19:09] <herb> We'd like to update demo to either RF-tip or at least r6331 to pick up the configs that recently landed as opposed to using the cowboyed configs we have currently.
[19:09] <rockstar> me
[19:09] <leonardr> me
[19:09] <Rinchen> herb, mthaddon +1 on demo updates
[19:09] <herb> That's it for Tom and me this week unless there are any questions.
[19:09] <herb> Rinchen: thanks
[19:10] <Rinchen> herb, mthaddon - we should think about putting it on the lastest tip certainly after next week's roll-out....
[19:10] <Rinchen> thanks herb
[19:10] <Rinchen> DBA report (stub)
[19:10] <stub> DB patches for this cycle have all been reviewed. One broke on production data but should be fixed shortly (fix is with PQM and next in the queue).
[19:10] <stub> There are still two more patches that might land this cycle - a Rosetta patch that Mark has approved and the first stage of the Auth/Person split that needs to go through code review.
[19:10] <stub> And that was all I could think of and type before being invoked by Joey
[19:11] <Rinchen> Provocative! :-)
[19:11] <Rinchen> Any questions for Stu?
[19:11] <Rinchen> I'll withhold channeling kiko this week.
[19:12] <Rinchen> Thanks stub
[19:12] <Rinchen> Sysadmin requests (Rinchen)
[19:12] <Rinchen> Is anyone blocked on an RT or have any that are becoming urgent?
[19:12] <Rinchen> al-maisan, do you know if there is a delay yet with Julian's items?
[19:12] <al-maisan>  Rinchen: I am not aware of any blocking issues.
[19:13] <Rinchen> ok thanks al-maisan
[19:13] <Rinchen> hey, salgado is here!
[19:13] <Rinchen> New packages required (salgado)
[19:13] <salgado> anything you want me to add to launchpad-dependencies this week?
[19:14] <salgado> guess not
[19:14] <Rinchen> jml put in a request for chec beer....
[19:14] <Rinchen> but we can handle that off line
[19:14] <Rinchen> thanks salgado
[19:14] <Rinchen> A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)
[19:14] <mrevell> hi
[19:14] <mrevell> This week I'd like to re-raise an issue we've spoken about before: how we handle user support requests. I handle the feedback list with Kiko's help and amongst we have the -users list and #launchpad more or less covered. However, it can take quite a while for requests in Answers to be dealt with.
[19:15] <mrevell> I've spoken to mthaddon about this and there's a problem of sheer volume of work and uncertainty over areas of responsibility.
[19:15] <mrevell> mthaddon - are most of the requests in Answers something that only people with Admin access can fix?
[19:15] <mthaddon> mrevell, I'm not sure - I don't think so... but couldn't give a good answer to that without looking into it further
[19:16] <mrevell> mthaddon: Okay, thanks. Would it help if someone else/other people filtered out the non-OSA requests?
[19:16] <Rinchen> mrevell, this is a good time to let folks know about the LP QA job post.  One of the duties of my expanded QA group will be additional support handling.
[19:16] <mthaddon> mrevell, it would help if it was well known what we as LOSAs are supposed to be responsible for, and what others are responsible for
[19:17] <mrevell> Rinchen, mthaddon: So, perhaps in the time between now and hiring the new QA role we could look at that.
[19:17] <mrevell> Perhaps this one for the list, though.
[19:17] <mrevell> thanks Rinchen
[19:18] <Rinchen> Doc Team report (mrevell)
[19:18] <mrevell> Held a doc team meeting on Tuesday. This was advertised with individual emails to each doc team member. Unfortunately, no one attended. I may have to reconsider the doc team, as it has been difficult to get anything going.
[19:18]  * Rinchen has to rescue the neighbors dog caught in the hail
[19:18] <danilos> in general, Translations team is trying to handle all 'rosetta' questions
[19:18] <mrevell> Bugs user guide section sent to team list this week. Please review, if you haven't already.
[19:19] <mrevell> Two episodes of the podcast published this week! Honest feedback sought! And also participants and feature ideas.
[19:19] <mrevell> Anyone have any comments on the podcast they want to share?
[19:19] <barry> mrevell: great theme song
[19:19] <mrevell> barry: Yeah, awesome work, thanks :)
[19:19] <barry> :)
[19:19] <mthaddon> mrevell, please stop statik talking from waffling...
[19:19] <statik> :)
[19:19] <mrevell> mthaddon: Heh, I edit out the bits where we waffle, this is the good stuff :)
[19:20] <statik> he left out the part where i confessed to killing a man
[19:20] <mrevell> statik: hahahaha :-D I forgot that
[19:20] <mthaddon> was supposed to be a ref to his waffles comment...
[19:20] <mrevell> mthaddon: Oh yeah :)
[19:20] <mrevell> Okay, well, if Rinchen's off on a canine rescue mission I guess that's the end of the meeting :)
[19:20] <sinzui> mmm. waffles
[19:20] <thumper> I was waiting for the comic ending to the second podcast
[19:20] <mrevell> thumper: I lost it :(
[19:21] <mrevell> Okay, I unilaterally declare this meeting over.
[19:21] <mrevell> :)
[19:21] <Rinchen> sorry back
[19:21] <Rinchen> Thank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Developer Meeting.
[19:22] <Rinchen> poor dog was trapped and couldn't get in her dog house
[19:22] <Rinchen> so she's with me here inside
[19:22] <mrevell> Rinchen: Good work.
[19:22] <mrevell> :)
[19:22] <mrevell> See you all in the morning.