[00:09] <noaXess> does anybody use recordmydesktop? i have a problem that the recording stops after about 2-3 minutes..
[00:09] <leftbas> never tried it, sorry
[00:13] <noaXess> before upgrading to 8.04 it worked under 7.10
[00:16] <leftbas> is it for making screen videos?
[00:16] <leftbas> i can't even find it on my machien
[00:17] <dru> hey guys im having trouble booting a usb stick containing backtrack (the usb version)....how come it dosnt appear on my grub
[00:17] <noaXess> leftbas: yes.. record your screen
[00:18] <noaXess> krecordmydesktop ist the package for kde
[00:18] <vonte> can anyone tell me how to upgrade my java in kubuntu 7.04
[00:18] <noaXess> or gtk-recordmydesktop os another guo for recordmydesktop
[00:19] <leftbas> dru: the grub on your hard drive doesn't enter into it. is your BIOS set to boot from a usb device?
[00:19] <dru> i dont have bios , its a mac intel without refit (works thru grub)
[00:20] <leftbas> dru: yeah, but the machine's firmware needs to know to boot from the usb device. the grub settings on your hard drive won't come into play at all
[00:20] <dru> yeah
[00:20] <dru> so i thought
[00:21] <leftbas> dru: try booting to a live-cd, then mount the usb flash drive
[00:21] <dru> i got refit apt-gotten , and it installed but .... i dont think it even did anything to the /hda0
[00:21] <dru> yeah thats a good idea
[00:21] <dru> thanks
[00:21] <leftbas> no prob
[00:22] <leftbas> hey BluesKaj
[00:22] <BluesKaj> hi leftbas
[00:28] <yeoj_> my gnome fonts are all huge in kubuntu, i'd like to run gnome-settings-daemon, but i dont see it anywhere to install.  Any ideas?
[00:29] <jhutchins_wk> yeoj_: If you're running gnome, you're running ubuntu.  Ask there.
[00:29] <jhutchins_wk> yeoj_: kubuntu vs gnome is the only difference between the two.
[00:29] <leftbas> try running the appearance module of system settings
[00:30] <leftbas> make sure the gtk fonts option uses the kde font settings
[00:30] <yeoj_> jhutchins, i'm running kde, but i like gtk apps too
[00:30] <yeoj_> jhutchins, not to mention firefox looks doofy
[00:30] <yeoj_> doofy == huge wierd fonts
[00:30] <leftbas> lol
[00:32] <yeoj_> leftbas, hmm... i dont see any gtk fonts option.... its system-settings->appearance->fonts ?
[00:32] <yeoj_> leftbas, oh, guess i should point out its kde4 too
[00:32] <leftbas> ohhhhhhh, that's different
[00:32] <yeoj_> lol
[00:32] <leftbas> can't help you there, i'm afraid...
[00:32] <yeoj_> details...
[00:32] <yeoj_> no worries, i'll figure it out
[00:33] <leftbas> except to say that you could try deleting the ~/.gnome2/share/fonts/fonts.dir file
[00:33] <leftbas> let it create a fresh copy
[00:43] <dru>  !refit
[00:43] <dru> !efi
[00:44] <dru> !lilo
[00:47] <dru> !elilo
[00:48] <crs> grrr
[00:48] <crs> im gonna blow up in second.
[00:48] <crs> fresh kubuntu (hardy) installation
[00:48] <crs> flash installed, new plugins found in konqueror. all works.
[00:48] <crs> flash is ok.
[00:49] <crs> then, after browser restart i can only hear sound, but instead of player i see gray square ;/
[00:51] <crs> the funniest thing is... video which i have watched first is still working (youtube) the rest is not ;/
[00:51] <crs> something like... dont know. that one, cached one is working...
[00:51] <crs> weird ;/
[00:55] <crs> Why am I facing so weird problems always?
[00:58] <MachinTrucChose> hi
[00:58] <MachinTrucChose> I have Ubuntu Hardy...is moving to Kubuntu as simple as doing "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" and "apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" ?
[00:59] <Jucato> MachinTrucChose: you can have both installed
[00:59] <MachinTrucChose> I don't want to
[00:59] <dru> its not that simple , you will need to manually remove the packages contained on ubuntu
[00:59] <MachinTrucChose> Nautilus kind of ruins Ubuntu for me
[00:59] <Jucato> !purekde
[00:59] <MachinTrucChose> thanks for the link
[00:59] <dru> an optional idea would be to just install kde and "change" your de in the login screen
[00:59] <MachinTrucChose> I wasn't expecting to change until KDE 4.1 was out, but I draw the line at a lack of drag-and-drop between the archiver and the file manager
[01:00] <crs> Jucato: Have you got any idea about my problems with flash by any chances? ;/
[01:00] <MachinTrucChose> dru: I'm a minimalist...I'll leave the aptitude cache intact if I ever change my mind, but for now, I'm getting rid
[01:00] <Jucato> crs: Flash and Konqueror is an unstable combo really... I keep Firefox around just for that :/
[01:01] <crs> Jucato: but opera acts exactly the same ;/
[01:01] <MachinTrucChose> Jucato: that link doesn't have instructions for Hardy. The latest is for Gutsy.
[01:01] <Jucato> crs: yeah, because they're both Qt-based
[01:01] <Jucato> MachinTrucChose: I think it's mostly the same
[01:02] <MachinTrucChose> ok
[01:02] <nathan> I don't know why, but my sound doesn't work.
[01:03] <dru> run : alsamixer
[01:03] <MachinTrucChose> so all of my other stuff remains, right? For example, if I had replaced Network-Manager with Wicd, and I install KDE, the KDE network manager leaves me alone? And what about Compiz, since both use it, it will leave my existing settings/shortcuts alone, right?
[01:03] <dru> there should be a few notches muted
[01:03] <sean_> is there anywone i can ask a few questions to
[01:04] <nathan> dru, was that for me
[01:04] <dru> !ask
[01:04] <dru> yes nathan
[01:04] <sean_> im new to ubuntu and am trying to modify /etc/webmin/miniserv.users     what do i use to open it?
[01:04] <Jonathan_R> any editor
[01:04] <dru> nano
[01:04] <Jonathan_R> gedit for example
[01:05] <sean_> thnx
[01:05] <Jucato> um.. unless you're on Kubuntu where gedit won't exist. you'll have to use kate
[01:05] <sean_> its not in the program options to chose? how do i add it there
[01:05] <Jonathan_R> or kedit
[01:05] <Jucato> Jonathan_R: not even kedit
[01:06] <Jonathan_R> no?
[01:06] <Jucato> sean_: use Kate
[01:06] <Jucato> Jonathan_R: not installed by default
[01:06] <Jucato> (and gone by KDE 4 anyway)
[01:06] <Jonathan_R> oooook
[01:06] <Jonathan_R> i liked kedit
[01:06] <dru> sean_ open a terminal and : nano /etc/webmin/miniserv.users
[01:06] <sean_> thx dru
[01:06] <Jonathan_R> i hate gnome, but like the gnome tools
[01:06] <Jucato> *cough* sudo *cough*
[01:07] <dru> DUH
[01:07] <Jucato> Jonathan_R: kedit wasn't able to adapt and keep up. for example, I don't think it has support for unicode or RTL or both
[01:07] <Jonathan_R> i see
[01:07] <Jucato> which is why kwrite eventually replaced it as the default text editor by KDE 3
[01:07] <Jonathan_R> oh well
[01:07] <Jucato> s/by/in/
[01:07] <Jucato> (btw, yes, KWrite is the default KDE 3 text editor, not Kate)
[01:07] <NickPresta> I hate kwrite :)
[01:07] <Jonathan_R> so do i
[01:07] <Jonathan_R> to heavy
[01:08] <Jucato> kwrite? heavy? O.o
[01:08] <Jonathan_R> might as well use openoffice
[01:08] <Jucato> sure you're not confusing kwrite and kate?
[01:08] <Jonathan_R> i'm sure
[01:08]  * Jucato hasn't heard that one yet :)
[01:08] <ubuntu__> alguien que hable español?
[01:08] <Jonathan_R> now ya have
[01:09] <NickPresta> I'm not too heavy - it just isn't Kate, but it almost is. I almost want to hit it and scream "JUST BE KATE ALREADY!"
[01:09] <Jucato> !es | ubuntu__
[01:09] <ubuntu__> ok thanks
[01:09] <NickPresta> It's** hehe. Although I'm not heavy either ;)
[01:09] <Jucato> lol
[01:09] <dru> heh
[01:09] <Jonathan_R> heavy is relative
[01:09] <Jucato> to each his own... kwrite is pretty light. at least in KDE 4 (though there isn't much diff from KDE 3 in terms of features)
[01:09] <Jonathan_R> not my relative, but relative
[01:10] <Jucato> and I heard they're going to make it like notepad too :)
[01:10] <Jucato> oh well
[01:10] <sean_> nano is asking me to ^x to exit how do i do that and do i ahve to save first thanks
[01:10] <dru> exit
[01:10] <Jucato> sean_: Ctrl+O to save
[01:10] <austin> Have any of you used gddccontrol before?
[01:10] <Jucato> dru: save first :)
[01:10] <Jonathan_R> sean_ have you read the man page?
[01:11] <dru> ctr q ... then save file ...y.... location - filename ....enter
[01:11] <sean_> thanks dru
[01:11] <dru> *ctrl x
[01:11] <dru> srry
[01:11] <porta> can anyone help me with compiz?
[01:11] <NickPresta> porta, what sort of help, specifically?
[01:12] <porta> well,I installed compiz from the adept installer
[01:12] <porta> but I can't see any effects
[01:12] <porta> I restarted,but...
[01:12] <porta> nada
[01:12] <dru> start compiz
[01:13] <Jonathan_R> Jucato, i'll be new to the buntu family in a few days. Currently I am a suser and have been for several years.
[01:13] <NickPresta> porta, do you actually mean Compiz, or Compiz Fusion?
[01:13] <NickPresta> porta, did you follow the instructions here, specifically 'Run Compiz'? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[01:13] <Jonathan_R> My dell will be coming with Ubuntu 7.10 and I want kde, not gnome, so I have Kubuntu 8.04
[01:14] <nathan> That fixed it dru, thanks
[01:15] <Jucato> Jonathan_R: welcome to kubuntu :)
[01:15] <Jonathan_R> My question Jucato is this, will kubuntu format the ubuntu 7.10, or will it just be adding kde to ubuntu 7.10
[01:15] <Jonathan_R> ty Jucato
[01:15] <Jonathan_R> i've never worked with a distro like this before
[01:16] <Jucato> Jonathan_R: you can just add it. install the "kubuntu-desktop" package and you'll have both installed
[01:16] <Dragnslcr> If you install from a disc, it'll probably want a clean partition to install to
[01:16] <Jucato> NickPresta, Jonathan_R: 3 Generations of KDE Text Editors: http://jucato.org/stuff/3g_textedit.png
[01:16] <nathan> As a reward for this channel's help, I leave you with some news that should warm everyone's heart. http://kotaku.com/5010087/judge-says-jack-thompson-guilty-of-misconduct-during-gta-bully-trials
[01:16] <Dragnslcr> Upgrading to 8.04 and install kubuntu-desktop will probably work better
[01:16] <Dragnslcr> Well, it'll be easier
[01:17] <Jonathan_R> thanks
[01:17] <Jonathan_R> i did get the ubuntu 8.04 dvd as well
[01:17]  * dru thinks 7.10 is outdated
[01:17] <Jonathan_R> i think so to
[01:17] <NickPresta> Jucato, I would assume KWrite <2> is the KDE 4 version?
[01:17] <Jucato> NickPresta: yep
[01:17] <Jucato> you can see by the theme :)
[01:18] <Dragnslcr> I don't think I've ever used KWrite
[01:18] <Dragnslcr> I always use Kate
[01:18] <Jonathan_R> NickPresta, you could rename it. instead of <2> call it KDE 4
[01:18] <dru> apgrading and doing a correct home partition while your at it (to save time on your next upgrade) would fix alot of "problems"
[01:18] <NickPresta> Jonathan_R, I know :)
[01:18] <Jonathan_R> ;)
[01:18] <Jucato> lol
[01:18] <NickPresta> I always use Kate as well. KWrite feels like Wordpad on Windows - fine, but not what I would want to use if I had a choice :)
[01:18] <Jucato> no, the <2> means it's the 2nd KWrite window that I have open
[01:19] <Jucato> except KWrite doesn't have RTF like Wordpad...
[01:19] <Jucato> (which is something I wanted in Kate... but...)
[01:19] <Jonathan_R> autosave
[01:19] <NickPresta> rich text format?
[01:19] <Jonathan_R> gotta have autosave
[01:19] <MachinTrucChose> Need to get 30.0MB/160MB of archives.
[01:19] <MachinTrucChose>     <--- Does this mean I'm getting 30mb, or that I could be getting anything from 30 to 160 mb of archives?
[01:19] <Dragnslcr> Is Kwrite at the same level as Notepad?
[01:19] <NickPresta> MachinTrucChose, you already have 160M of the archives. You need 30M more
[01:19] <Jucato> Dragnslcr: not even :)
[01:19] <MachinTrucChose> thank you
[01:20] <Dragnslcr> I kept thinking it was part of KOffice
[01:20] <NickPresta> MachinTrucChose, sorry, you already have 130M / 160M
[01:20] <Jucato> NickPresta: yep. rich text format... kinda annoying that I would have to use kword for simple rtf files :)
[01:21] <Jonathan_R> is there a way to have gnome kde and educational stuff with out having to do like 3 distros?
[01:21] <Jucato> aaanyway... gotta blast
[01:21] <Dragnslcr> Jonathan_R- sure, you can have Gnome and KDE installed at the same time
[01:21] <Jucato> Jonathan_R: what do you mean by "3 distros"?
[01:21] <Dragnslcr> You just select one of them when you login
[01:21] <Jucato> just install the edu packages you want
[01:22] <Jonathan_R> ubuntu, kubuntu edubuntu
[01:22] <Jucato> O.o
[01:22] <dru> gar
[01:22] <Jucato> Jonathan_R: we all use the same repositories
[01:22] <NickPresta> Jonathan_R, you can install the various *buntu-desktop packages, I believe. In the case of edubuntu, you can just install the educational packages.
[01:22] <Dragnslcr> Edubuntu just has certain packages installed by default
[01:22] <Jonathan_R> ok
[01:23] <Jucato> Jonathan_R: the repository setup is just like openSUSE's... if you installed KDE by default, later on you can install GNOME too
[01:23] <Jonathan_R> lemme show ya what i'm used to
[01:23] <Jonathan_R> http://downloads.thecompletecomputerresource.com/smart/opensuse_103.repo
[01:23] <Dragnslcr> You could try installing edubuntu-desktop, not sure how well that would work
[01:23] <porta> Compiz...bu
[01:23] <porta> sudo apt-get install subversion
[01:23] <porta> svn ls https://svn.generation.no/emerald-themes
[01:23] <Dragnslcr> All of the Edubuntu packages are in the repository as education-*
[01:23] <Jonathan_R> actually, i can install gnome durring install
[01:24] <Jonathan_R> i can select kde and gnome and xfce
[01:24] <NickPresta> Jonathan_R, you can do the same in *buntu
[01:24] <Jucato> Jonathan_R: yeah I know. I said *if*
[01:24] <Jucato> NickPresta: not during first installation
[01:24] <Jonathan_R> lol ok
[01:24] <Jonathan_R> no?
[01:24] <Jonathan_R> in opensuse i can
[01:25] <Jucato> yeah yeah.. they're different :)
[01:25] <Jonathan_R> down in the left hand corner click details
[01:25] <NickPresta> OpenSuSE...
[01:25] <Jonathan_R> i know they are
[01:25] <Dragnslcr> *buntu only installs one desktop environment at install time
[01:25]  * NickPresta shudders
[01:25] <Jucato> Ubuntu has a different marketing drive than openSUSE. so...
[01:25] <Dragnslcr> You can install others afterwards
[01:25] <crs> How can i install wn32codecs?
[01:25] <Jucato> but once installed, the setup is similar to openSUSE *IF* you chose to install one DE first
[01:25] <Jucato> !w32codecs
[01:26] <Dragnslcr> !win32 | crs
[01:26] <dru> you could also try the server install and build whatever you want without anythng else
[01:26] <NickPresta> !win32codecs | crs
[01:26] <NickPresta> crs, The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see  /msg ubotu medibuntu ), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:26] <Jonathan_R> ok Jucato
[01:26] <Jonathan_R> i dont mind learning a different way
[01:27] <crs> Jucato: Thanks ;-)
[01:27] <Jonathan_R> besides, i do the documentation for smart package manager
[01:27] <Jonathan_R> it'll give me good experience with the debian/ubuntu side
[01:28] <Jonathan_R> are their api docs for dpkg?
[01:28] <dru> chem
[01:30] <pteague> anybody know where i should look for info on a linksys WPC53GX pcmcia card?  it wasn't detected when my friend installed kubuntu & i've been doing a couple google searches & haven't found much... i'm guessing ndiswrapper?
[01:32] <BluesKaj> !linksys
[01:36] <dru> ndiswrapper should work for you BluesKaj
[01:36] <crs> which package contains debuild app?
[01:37] <BluesKaj> dru, no need , i'm wired
[01:38] <dru>  crs apt-get install devscripts
[01:39] <crs> dru: thank you. I used apt-cache search debuild to find thit, but didnt show this one. ;/
[01:39] <dru> just try the command . terminal will tell you what to install
[01:39] <dru> ^crs
[01:39] <crs> dru: no, its not... ;/
[01:40] <crs> i have changed to zsh with my config, maybe that is why...
[01:40] <dru> repos? maybe
[01:41] <Jucato> crs: the packaging guide I pointed to you earlier should have instructions on what you need to install
[01:41] <crs> Jucato: I have just used checkinstall
[01:41] <Jucato> pfft :P
[01:42] <Jucato> but I still gave you both links
[01:42] <crs> saved. ;-)
[01:42] <Jucato> so look there :)
[01:43] <crs> i really like apt-get build-dep ;-)
[01:58] <Stephenishere> hi
[01:59] <crs> hmmm
[01:59] <dru> !ask Stephenishere
[01:59] <crs> I though w32codecs will bring me avisynth.dll ;/ Where can i find this file?
[01:59] <dru> !ask
[02:02] <dru> crs :http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-447378.html
[02:03] <Stephenishere> I have tried to install nvidia drivers but am unable to enable them, i have everything set and the guide  i am using says to use this sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg which i can't find what they are asking for. Thanks.
[02:04] <dru> Stephenishere: please open a terminal and enter the command there
[02:05] <user1> !cleartype
[02:05] <Stephenishere> sorry if  i worded that last entry retardedly, but heres what i have followed so far. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/22/installing-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-edgy/
[02:05] <user1> !fonts
[02:05] <Stephenishere> !nvidia
[02:05] <user1> there's something really off about the fonts. Is there some Cleartype-like thing I can install for Kubuntu?
[02:06] <dru> Stephenishere: hpw did the package install
[02:06] <dru> *how
[02:07] <Stephenishere> everything seemed to go through, but I didn't see the "Select the nvidia driver from the X server driver list and follow the on-screen steps to complete the configuration" part
[02:10] <_> hi leute
[02:10] <_> hätte ne wichtige frage
[02:10] <crs> how can i 'fix' mplayer giving me that:
[02:10] <crs> [swf @ 0x8751714]Compressed SWF format not supported
[02:10] <crs> LAVF_header: av_open_input_stream() failed
[02:10] <crs> ?
[02:10] <stdin> !de
[02:10] <dru> sorry Stephenishere, i cant private message right now
[02:11] <dru> Stephenishere, have you managed to follow thru with the next command?
[02:13] <pteague> oh brother... he hasn't even finished installing kubuntu yet... gee, no wonder he's having problems getting the linksys wireless card to work :)
[02:16] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[02:16]  * dru waves at [Relic]
[02:20] <SteamMachine> Hullo.
[02:21] <[Relic]> Trying to figure this out, libsensors4 is more up-to-date that libsensors3 but request remove for libsensors3 would remove a lot of packages including a key package ksysguard, any ideas on how to make libsensors4 work rather than 3 or a compile of the latest stable distribution of lm-sensors that would work properly with the kernel?
[02:24] <[Relic]> I want my coretemps on my new intel 45nm chip  :)
[02:25] <austin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=804121
[02:25] <austin> COuld someone read that and please help? :(
[02:28] <styfle> hello
[02:28] <austin> Hi.
[02:28] <styfle> is this the place to ask questions about kubuntu?
[02:28] <william_> yes
[02:29] <styfle> well i have been looking at a lot of different versions of linux and i think im gonna go with some form of ubuntu
[02:29] <styfle> what is the difference between gnome and kde?
[02:30] <drurew> its a desktop environment
[02:30] <crs> ok, i have sorted out flash issue.
[02:30] <crs> wasnt easy at all! ;/
[02:30] <drurew> kinda like the differeance between windows and osx (at least in looks)
[02:31] <styfle> so there's a big difference?
[02:31] <drurew> kde is probably better left for advanced (enhanced) computer users
[02:31] <stdin> styfle: the desktop environment is the way in which you interact with the system
[02:32] <styfle> i c
[02:32] <styfle> so its really just appearance
[02:32] <drurew> also functionality
[02:32] <stdin> styfle: I'd suggest you try both (you can have both gnome and kde installed) and see which you like best. it comes down to personal preference
[02:33] <styfle> hmm ok but the only version of linux i have tried using is knoppix off a live cd
[02:33] <stdin> you can run gnome apps in kde and vice versa, so it's just a matter of what fits best
[02:33] <styfle> im really reallly new to this
[02:33] <styfle> in fact, this is my first time successfully using irc lmao
[02:33] <stdin> knoppix uses KDE too
[02:34] <styfle> oh ok
[02:34] <drurew>  so does back track
[02:34] <styfle> so my real question: what version should i use for my laptop that has a celeron at 2.0GHz and about 700MB of RAM
[02:35] <drurew> do you know if its x86 or 64
[02:35] <styfle> it only has a 16gig HDD too
[02:35] <styfle> um how would i find out?
[02:35] <drurew> sorry
[02:35] <drurew> 32 bit or 64
[02:36] <drurew> are you running windows?
[02:36] <styfle> yes xp
[02:37] <drurew> start -- controllpanel---systemsettings-- hardwareinformation....something in that direction
[02:37] <styfle> yeah im in system
[02:37] <drurew> try right clicking on your computer
[02:37] <styfle> i just dont see at 32 or 64
[02:38] <austin> Could someone please look here and try to help me with this problem? :( http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=331
[02:38] <NickPresta> Start > Control Panel > System > The first tab should have that information.
[02:38] <drurew>  
[02:39] <NickPresta> austin, you need to link us directly to the topic, not just the forum
[02:39] <austin> Oops, sorry I thought I was on the topic.
[02:39] <styfle> this is what it says: intel celeron cpu 2GHz 704MB of RAM
[02:39] <styfle> does say the bit
[02:39] <austin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=804121
[02:39] <NickPresta> styfle, I would imagine you are not running 64 bit
[02:40] <crs> Ok. i have couple packages which I dont want to be upgraded, never. How can I hold them at currently installed version?
[02:40] <stdin> !pinning | crs
[02:40] <drurew> crs lock that in synaptic
[02:40] <styfle> im gonna agree that this is 32 bit because the laptop is 5 years old
[02:40] <ObsidianX> hey folks, for whatever reason whenever i login, no matter the window manager, X resizes to 640x480
[02:41] <drurew> styfle: you might want the x86 version then
[02:41] <crs> stdin, drurew: thanks guys. ;-)
[02:41] <NickPresta> crs, I believe there is information here too: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html (under 3.10)
[02:41] <styfle> what is the x86 version?
[02:42] <stdin> styfle: x86 is the generic name for a 32bit CPU
[02:42] <styfle> oooooh
[02:42] <ObsidianX> ie: 686
[02:42] <ObsidianX> 386
[02:42] <styfle> that explains a lot
[02:42] <ObsidianX> 486
[02:42] <ObsidianX> 586
[02:42] <Jonathan_R> how well does smartpm do in kubuntu?
[02:43] <styfle> ok so this laptop sucks at running windows, so what version of ubuntu would suit it best (2.0GHz x86)
[02:43] <drurew> give xubuntu a try
[02:44] <drurew> (minimal desktop)(really small)
[02:44] <stdin> you don't need xubuntu with that spec
[02:44] <styfle> what do i need?
[02:44] <drurew> true
[02:44] <stdin> any will run
[02:45] <styfle> ok thanks
[02:45] <stdin> this laptop has a 1.73 CPU, runs great
[02:45] <stdin> and it's my dev laptop, so I push it a lot :)
[02:45] <NickPresta> I used to run Kubuntu on a 733, with 256MB of RAM. It ran fine
[02:46] <styfle> what about the way the hdd is formated?
[02:46] <drurew> i run on a c2 at 4000
[02:46] <styfle> cause doesnt windows use ntfs and linux uses fat?
[02:46] <stdin> the default will be ext3
[02:46] <stdin> and there's a windows driver available to read that too
[02:47] <stdin> you should be able to read/write the ntfs partition if you want from linux as well
[02:47] <anarki> Good morning
[02:47] <styfle> ok so all i gotta do is burn the iso to a cd and install (which will wipe this hdd)
[02:47] <drurew> resize
[02:48] <drurew> that would also be an option youll find
[02:48] <stdin> you can either wipe it all, or resize and install in that
[02:48] <FoxII> Hey all! Quick question. Have an nvidia card. Do I need to get hold of envy? apt-get says it has envyng-qt, envyng-gtk & envyng-core. So not sure now.
[02:48] <styfle> ok thanks
[02:48] <styfle> later guys
[02:49] <stdin> FoxII: you'll want the -qt one in kde, but the -gtk one will work too. the -core bit is the common parts that both GUIs use
[02:49] <FoxII> ah, k. I'll use the -qt one if it's for kde. Thanks stdin :)
[02:49] <stdin> :)
[02:56] <anarki> Hey, i need  some help over here: i cant increase the number of desktops more than 2, and when i try to increase it, it just get back to default number.
[02:59] <Jucato> anarki: are you using compiz?
[03:00] <anarki> yes
[03:00] <Jucato> better ask in #compiz-fusion then. their setup messes with KDE's virtual desktops (they have their own way)
[03:00] <antonio_> hi guys, does anyone how to "ask for" o recommend a package for the next (or whatever) version of ubuntu?
[03:01] <anarki> thanks jucato
[03:02] <crs> hmm, i had use build-dep to install all packages required to build something. How can I now uninstall all of them? That was really long list. ;/
[03:03] <antonio_> is there any recommended way to do it? or just wait ;-)?
[03:05] <Jucato> antonio_: I'm not sure. you can try asking in #ubuntu-motu and ask if there's a procedure for filing package/update requests
[03:05] <stdin> antonio_: you file a "Needs packaging" bug, create a bug with the title "[Needs Packaging] ....." and say what needs packaging and why you want it
[03:05] <Jucato> oh there
[03:05]  * Jucato shuts up now
[03:06] <stdin> heh
[03:06] <antonio_> great!
[03:06] <antonio_> thanks
[03:06] <stdin> the motu team will help too, if you ask :)
[03:07] <Jucato> if you ask *nicely* :)
[03:07] <antonio_> yep
[03:07] <antonio_> ;-)
[03:16] <pteague> my friend is trying to get his wireless card installed... it's showing up in the network interfaces listing & when he selects it & clicks the 'enable interface' button it goes to a green check for a couple of seconds & then goes back to a red x
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> pteague: you aren't using knetworkmanager?
[03:24] <pteague> nosrednaekim: isn't that what gets launched from the tray when you select 'manual configuration'?
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> no
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> thats different
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> htats kcm_netowkrconf
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> or something like that
[03:25] <pteague> running knetworkmanager on my box i get nothing
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> the thing in your tray is knetworkmanager
[03:29] <pteague> nosrednaekim: ok, use it how?
[03:31] <pteague> nosrednaekim: what i'm saying is that i had him right click on that & go to "manual configuration"... he's having problems setting up his wireless pcmcia card
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> pteague: does it detect wireless AP's from within knetorkmanager?
[03:34] <pteague> no because the wireless card is not enabled
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> oh.... then you have other problems
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> !wireless
[03:36] <pteague> & going into the manual configuration lists the wireless card, but says it's disabled
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> well, unfortunately I have to go
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> or i'd hepl you <_<
[03:45] <anarki> hey pteague, did u find a solution ?
[03:48] <pteague> not yet... we're trying to get to get his win box to do network sharing so he can try to download some packages via a wired connection... & his win box is connected to internet via wireless
[03:50] <anarki> what is your wireless card ?
[03:52] <anarki>  what is your wireless card model ?
[03:52] <pteague> he's using a linksys wpc54g something or other... i don't remember if it's the gs or gx
[03:53] <anarki> ok try that : go to /etc/modprobe.d/
[03:53] <anarki> as root
[03:54] <pteague> heh, now that we got a wired connection i think it was able to install the needed packages cause he said it's now activated his wireless card
[03:56] <anarki>  and create file named wpc54g and add these lines to it : alias wlan0 wpc54g      options wpc54g disable_hw_scan=1
[03:57] <anarki> now restart and every thing will be fine
[03:57] <pteague> all he needed was to download the driver package that wasn't on the cd
[03:57] <anarki> ah ok sry :P
[03:58] <bpeg> hi
[03:58] <pteague> which is annoying when your internet connection doesn't work ;)
[03:59] <anarki> yes i got this prob b4 and it was very annoying
[04:00] <anarki> but the solution is not to download some packages it was much deeper
[04:01] <harumi> hello all
[04:02] <harumi> I'm looking to dual-boot my intel imac with Kubuntu and WinXP
[04:02] <harumi> don't really know where to start
[04:03] <harumi> anyone have any suggestions?
[04:03] <harumi> thanks.
[04:03] <bpeg> ^)
[04:03] <pteague> anarki: yeah, i had some problems with mine as well... looks like 8.04 has changed some things :)
[04:03] <anarki> start with XP
[04:04] <pteague> harumi: bootcamp
[04:04] <anarki> because XP wont let you boot with linux
[04:04] <pteague> mac uses bootcamp for multiboot
[04:04] <harumi> you mean I can't install kubuntu first, wiping all of my current partitions?
[04:04] <harumi> then install XP after?
[04:04] <harumi> I've got boot camp now
[04:05] <harumi> running mac os x 10.5 leopard
[04:05] <harumi> and dual booting XP
[04:05] <pteague> xp destroys the boot portion so your computer doesn't know there's other things to boot
[04:05] <anarki> yes
[04:05] <harumi> ok
[04:06] <harumi> so does this mean that what I'm saying is impossible?
[04:06] <anarki> no but install xp first
[04:06] <[Relic]> where's the best place to ask a dev a question?  :)
[04:06] <harumi> ok
[04:06] <harumi> but what about all of the boot camp drivers?
[04:06] <pteague> you could install linux to destroy partitions & install win, but you'll have to install linux again
[04:07] <harumi> won't they be useless unless I'm running OSX?
[04:07] <harumi> pteague: can you elaborate a bit please?
[04:08] <ubuntu> hi   i just tried to installkubuntu 8.04 on my machine
[04:08] <ubuntu> it went thru the installation and then asked me to remove cd
[04:09] <ubuntu> and machine rebooted  and all i got was a blank screen
[04:09] <anarki> harumi, just simply install xp and leave some space (partations) for kubuntu
[04:09] <harumi> also, I don't really know how to install only XP on my machine
[04:09] <anarki> then install kubuntu
[04:09] <harumi> since os x is around
[04:10] <harumi> anarki: should I partition first, before installing XP?
[04:10] <anarki> do u want to remove is os x ?
[04:12] <harumi> yes
[04:12] <harumi> I don't care for OS X anymore so I'm trashing it
[04:12] <harumi> only interested in kubuntu and xp
[04:14] <anarki> but os x cd and remove its partation
[04:14] <harumi> "but"?
[04:15] <harumi> oh
[04:15] <harumi> boot
[04:15] <anarki> sry
[04:15] <harumi> ok
[04:15] <harumi> np
[04:15] <anarki> xp wont let u to see the mac partation
[04:15] <harumi> that sounds good
[04:15] <harumi> but
[04:15] <harumi> what about those pesky boot camp drivers
[04:16] <harumi> that are installed on my XP installation?
[04:17] <anarki> i dont know really.
[04:18] <harumi> ok
[04:18] <harumi> thanks for the help
[04:18] <anarki> btw leave the mac partation unlocated
[04:18] <harumi> ok
[04:20] <anarki> anyone know a good ide for c/c++.
[04:21] <blistov_> does the kubuntu kernel not have lvm built in?
[04:22] <flaccid_> blistov_, is a linux kernel and yes it supports lvm
[04:22] <flaccid_> !lvm
[04:24] <blistov_> any idea why my volumes aren't enabled automatically at boot?
[04:25] <flaccid_> blistov_, ubuntu does not use lvm out of box.
[04:25] <blistov_> oic. it automatically does get enabled after i manually enable it once.
[04:25] <blistov_> woop.
[04:26] <blistov_> I'm so torn between gentoo and kubuntu.
[04:26] <flaccid_> what do you mean by enable?
[04:26] <RobotGuy> How can I change network settings for Kubuntu 8.04? There doesn't seem to be any application to allow that.
[04:26] <blistov_> ie, status enabled
[04:26] <blistov_> or started.
[04:26] <flaccid_> RobotGuy, knetworkmanager or manually or via system settings
[04:26] <flaccid_> blistov_, status enabled?
[04:27] <blistov_> flaccid_: sorry, available.
[04:27] <RobotGuy> flaccid_: System settings doesn't allow changing DNS.
[04:27] <flaccid_> RobotGuy, yes it does
[04:27] <flaccid_> blistov_, not sure what you mean in this context but cool
[04:27] <blistov_> RobotGuy: use network manager.
[04:28] <flaccid_> knetworkmanager is all you need really
[04:28] <blistov_> flaccid_: I hate sounding like a stoopid noob, I've just become accustomed to the Gentoo way of thinking about stuff.
[04:29] <blistov_> flaccid_: is there any manner of utility in Ubuntu, for managing source packages?
[04:29] <pteague> apt
[04:29] <flaccid_> !adept | blistov_
[04:29] <blistov_> ie, i need to build a lot of packages with my own options.
[04:29] <flaccid_> manage them in what way?
[04:29] <blistov_> like portage/ebuild tree's.
[04:30] <flaccid_> nah this is not a source tree based OS
[04:30] <blistov_> source is easy, dependancies between binary and source package managers, is not.
[04:30] <blistov_> bah.
[04:30] <flaccid_> may i suggest freebsd if thats what you like or gentoo/gentoobsd obviously :)
[04:30] <blistov_> So what does one generally do when you need packages compiled with additional support?
[04:30] <blistov_> (don't say use gentoo :) )
[04:31] <flaccid_> nothing stopping you from compiling source...
[04:31] <flaccid_> !build
[04:31] <blistov_> yea, but manually building without a dependancy resolution defeats the purpose of using a binary distrobution :p
[04:31] <blistov_> I'd just end up installing portage.
[04:32] <flaccid_> well isnt that my point blistov_
[04:32] <flaccid_> i still have no idea what you are trying to achieve but anyway
[04:32] <blistov_> I'm impressed with the new kubuntu beta build.  This is the first time in my experience with Kubuntu, that it was usable without major modification.
[04:33] <flaccid_> blistov_, what did you usually have to modify?
[04:33] <blistov_> kernel right off the bat.
[04:33] <blistov_> ubuntu stock kernels never support any new hardware.
[04:33] <Armagguedes> new being what?
[04:33] <Armagguedes> 1,2,6 months old?
[04:33] <flaccid_> blistov_, well kernel != userland..
[04:34] <blistov_> 6 months ish.
[04:34] <flaccid_> and the kernel is linux itself, not ubuntu :)
[04:34] <blistov_> ...
[04:34] <blistov_> its not the kernel sources that are broken.
[04:35] <blistov_> My kernels always support my hardware.
[04:36] <flaccid_> what hardware did the kernel not support before, that is supported now then? i don't really know the point of this convo heh
[04:36] <blistov_> 4 of my nics.
[04:36] <blistov_> sas controller.
[04:36] <blistov_> er... ahci.
[04:36] <mot_> i have a very very off-topic question.
[04:36] <Armagguedes> how's ubuntu support for additional monitors (a 2nd one) connected to a laptop?
[04:36] <mot_> i'm turning 21 in like 20 minutes.
[04:36] <mot_> if i walk to the liquor store, will the sell to me at like 12:05 on my birthday?
[04:36] <mot_> (may 23rd)
[04:36] <mot_> or will they make me come back the next business day?
[04:37] <blistov_> mot_: midnight.
[04:37] <Armagguedes> if you have ID legally you can buy booze i suppose
[04:37] <mot_> yep, i got my over-21 id today.
[04:37] <flaccid_> Armagguedes, depends on vid driver used
[04:37] <flaccid_> blistov_, fair enough then.
[04:37] <blistov_> flaccid_: I do notice however, that the new nvidia drivers (supporting 9xxx cards) are not available in the repo.
[04:38] <flaccid_> mot_, what country are you in?
[04:38] <mot_> michigan, US
[04:38] <Armagguedes> flaccid, i'm currently using nvidia's binaries so i can play games at more than 1FPS
[04:38] <flaccid_> blistov_, yes thats normal. its called release cycle.
[04:38] <mot_> what other country would i have to be 21 in besides...india or ..singapore :P
[04:38] <blistov_> flaccid_: I understand that.
[04:38] <flaccid_> mot_, more than you think
[04:38] <blistov_> however the supporting driver has been available for.... 6 months?
[04:38] <mot_> it's it's actually only a few
[04:38] <mot_> i can think of 4-5
[04:39] <mot_> there are countries where it's illegal (re: saudi arabia)
[04:39] <mot_> but very few countries have a drinking age of 21.
[04:39] <flaccid_> blistov_, the ubuntu project focuses less on restricted packages. i don't know its that long however, couldn't tell ya
[04:39] <mot_> in a lot of asian countries it's 19, though.
[04:39] <blistov_> meh, either way, i'm much more impressed with this release.
[04:40] <blistov_> like i said, first time its ever supported my hardware.  the only issue i've had is the 6 minute initial boot off the dvd. keeps probing for floppy drives (which seems .... depricated...)
[04:40] <flaccid_> blistov_, i bought a new 9600GT. i had to use the beta drivers from nvidia.com..
[04:40] <blistov_> flaccid_: you can use the tesla drivers which are stable.
[04:40] <flaccid_> yeah i do believe they need to fix some stuff with boot processes on the live media
[04:41] <blistov_> tesla ppu's are just rebranded 9xxx gpu's.
[04:41] <flaccid_> blistov_, i don't know what telsa is sorry, link me please. this is a gainward card. the beta driver works fine however. running wow in wine on full res etc.
[04:42] <blistov_> tesla  is nvidia's physics processor/scientific processor.
[04:42] <mot_> well
[04:42] <mot_> bbl
[04:42] <blistov_> but... its just a 9xxx
[04:43] <blistov_> nvidia, for some reason, kept the driver compatibility a secret for some reason.
[04:43] <flaccid_> blistov_, link to the drivers please. how are they dif from nvidia beta and who makes these drivers?
[04:43] <blistov_> nvidia.
[04:43] <blistov_> oh sorry, its the quadro driver that i was using, which used to be the tesla drvier
[04:44] <blistov_> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[04:44] <RobotGuy> I did not find anything that lets me set my network settings for eth0, DNS, gateway, etc.
[04:44] <flaccid_> RobotGuy, its in manual configuration
[04:44] <blistov_> RobotGuy: kicker, right click network manager, manual config.
[04:45] <RobotGuy> How not intuitive could that be?
[04:45] <flaccid_> intuition is subject to the end user
[04:45] <RobotGuy> There ought to be a settings applet in system settings for network.
[04:46] <blistov_> I guess there could be a button labeled "automatic nic config (manual settings)"
[04:46] <blistov_> :)
[04:46] <blistov_> wait.... "automatic nic configuration (but not actually automatic)"
[04:47] <flaccid_> that doesn't make sense. you either click on your network or click wired or goto manual...
[04:47] <flaccid_> RobotGuy, and as i said before there is an applet in system settings for network
[04:47] <RobotGuy> flaccid_: It belongs in System Settings like it was in 7.10
[04:48] <keesercc_> I was wondering if anyone here uses kubuntu and the microsoft wireless media keyboard?
[04:48] <RobotGuy> flaccid_: There is NOT.  There is nothing in that network applet that allows changing network settings (IP, gateway, DNS, etc)
[04:48] <keesercc_> I have an interesting problem related to kubuntu and the M$ wireless media keyboard
[04:49] <blistov_> Linux doesn't support DRM :)
[04:49] <flaccid_> RobotGuy, ubuntu version please and kde version
[04:49] <blistov_> your M$ encryptorz is incompatible.
[04:50] <keesercc_> when I hit one of the media buttons, all keyboard input stops.  I CAN however switch to a virtual terminal (ctrl - alt - f1) and restart X (crtl - alt -backspace)
[04:50] <RobotGuy> flaccid_: Kubuntu 8.04, KDE 4.x
[04:50] <keesercc_> once in the VT, the keyboard works perfectly, but when I switch back to my KDE session, none of the standard keys work
[04:51] <Armagguedes> get a new keyboard?
[04:51] <Armagguedes> try logitech
[04:51] <flaccid_> RobotGuy, wrong channel. #kubuntu-kde4. knetworkmanager from kde3 is what you use however. manual configuration from right click
[04:51] <keesercc_> Armagguedes: its brand new
[04:52] <RobotGuy> flaccid_: I did not see any knetworkmanager at all.
[04:52] <RobotGuy> Right click what?
[04:52] <flaccid_> RobotGuy, run it from alt+f2 first.
[04:52] <flaccid_> its a tray icon
[04:53] <keesercc_> I am guessing that X is having some problem with the keys and not recovering from it
[04:54] <keesercc_> or maybe I am way off
[04:54] <Armagguedes> i have no idea
[04:54] <Armagguedes> my keyboard works (most media keys don't i think)
[04:54] <Armagguedes> btw, who actually makes MS keyboards?
[04:55] <keesercc_> Armagguedes: but it never stops taking input when you hit a media key right?
[04:55] <Armagguedes> are they actually MS or are they re-branded?
[04:55] <keesercc_> I think logitech does
[04:55] <Armagguedes> no it just ignores the keystroke
[04:56] <keesercc_> so this is the first you have heard of this problem
[05:00] <austin> Could someone please read this and try to help? :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=804121
[05:01] <vellakd> So.. I accidentally made all the menus (file, edit, etc) go away in kopete, and the user that uses it is lost without it... anyone know how to make it come back?
[05:03] <blistov_> vellakd: this is the wrong answer, but delete the kopeterc
[05:03] <blistov_> or edit it to put the menu back.
[05:03] <vellakd> Hmm...
[05:03] <vellakd> alright...
[05:03] <blistov_> there's a shortcut key to show the key again, but i don't remember it.
[05:03] <blistov_> ctrl+m
[05:03] <blistov_> :)
[05:03] <blistov_> yay
[05:04] <vellakd> I had hoped there was something like that, but I'm not afraid of editing the file.
[05:04] <blistov_> great success for me.
[05:04] <vellakd> Oh? >,>
[05:04] <blistov_> yea yea.
[05:04] <vellakd> Yes!
[05:04] <vellakd> Thank you so much!
[05:04] <blistov_> as i have a working menu, i thought to myself "self, you can use the menu to navigate to the shortcuts option"
[05:04] <blistov_> also, you can always view your keyboard shortcuts from kcontrol.
[05:05] <blistov_> its under accessability.
[05:06] <vellakd> Ah.
[05:06] <vellakd> Well, thanks anyway.
[05:07] <RobotGuy> knetworkmanager will not launch.
[05:07] <vellakd> Well, with that done, I can finally get to bed. Now all I have to do is finish testing that vpn client for him, and I'll be done with his silly request for probably another month or so... ;)
[05:07] <flaccid_> RobotGuy, run it from konsole, what is the output?
[05:08] <RobotGuy> flaccid_: I tried running it from konsole.  Nothing, no error, not a single peep.
[05:08] <flaccid_> RobotGuy, it probably loaded into systray. check by looking and also ps aux | grep knetworkmanager
[05:09] <RobotGuy> flaccid_: It was already in the sys tray.  I tried right clicking it and selecting manual configuration.  It asks for my password, I enter it, and then nothing.
[05:10] <flaccid_> RobotGuy, goto the kmenu and in search type in system settings, do you get kde3 system settings as well?
[05:10] <RobotGuy> This is a fresh install
[05:10] <RobotGuy> flaccid_: I do not see kde3 system settings
[05:10] <flaccid_> np one sec
[05:11] <flaccid_> RobotGuy, dpkg -l | grep network-manager-kde please
[05:12] <stuffcorpse> hello, is there a way to specify files/folders that are created by me under a particular folder to be a certain group?
[05:13] <RobotGuy> flaccid_: I have to reboot to get back into Kubuntu. I won't remember that command by the time I get into Linux. :( :(
[05:13] <RobotGuy> Writing it down
[05:13] <flaccid_> RobotGuy, basically you probably need to install kde-systemsettings and use that
[05:14] <flaccid_> or manual config in /etc/network/interfaces for system instead of user network config
[05:14] <RobotGuy> No network access
[05:14] <flaccid_> edit /etc/network/interfaces manually
[05:15] <RobotGuy> I'll just dl a new CD image of regular 8.04 and see if that works.  No KDE4.
[05:15] <Bugs_Bunnybr> hello there..how I can go to the kubuntu-br ??
[05:15] <flaccid_> RobotGuy, these examples at the top here are pretty basic: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[05:16] <flaccid_> RobotGuy, a lot of effort for something simple to fix
[05:16] <se7en>   /j #kuntuntu-br ... Bugs_Bunnybr
[05:16] <Bugs_Bunnybr> thanks
[05:17] <RobotGuy> flaccid_: I know about /etc/network/interfaces
[05:18] <flaccid_> RobotGuy, rightio. it also be good to see what command is launched when it goes to manual configuration, run that in konsole manually and see what the actual problem is why it can't go to the gui for manual config
[05:25] <Bugs_Bunnybr> hey..someone here know`s some thing about the permissons in the ubuntu?? I created one user who dont belongs to any group..and he can do to many things..like acess internet and acess pen drivers..
[05:26] <Bugs_Bunnybr> the right is..if you belong to the group plugdev..you can acess tem remontable media..if you arent in this group..you dont have the permissons to acess the pen drivers..
[05:26] <Bugs_Bunnybr> someone can give me a ligth??
[05:26] <flaccid_> Bugs_Bunnybr, kubuntu version?
[05:27] <Bugs_Bunnybr> yes
[05:27] <Bugs_Bunnybr> 8.04
[05:28] <Bugs_Bunnybr> $ id
[05:28] <Bugs_Bunnybr> uid=1001(teste) gid=1001(teste) groups=1001(teste)
[05:28] <Bugs_Bunnybr> $
[05:28] <flaccid_> so whats the specific problem with this user?
[05:29] <flaccid_> add secondary group plugdev and dialout?
[05:29] <Bugs_Bunnybr> he has to many power...by the rules of linux..he cant handle pen drivers..
[05:29] <Bugs_Bunnybr> not
[05:30] <Bugs_Bunnybr> he just belongs to the owner group
[05:30] <Bugs_Bunnybr> a just type useradd -m teste
[05:30] <flaccid_> exactly. you need to add teste to plugdev and dialout groups.
[05:30] <flaccid_> !gropus
[05:30] <flaccid_> !groups
[05:30] <flaccid_> dang
[05:30] <Bugs_Bunnybr> and edited the /etc/group to keep sure if he belongs to other group
[05:31] <eross> yayyy... after the latest update and reboot, my question marks have become icons in the K-menu =)
[05:31] <eross> thank you developers
[05:32] <flaccid_> Bugs_Bunnybr, you don't edit /etc/group directly. and its based off the login shell as well.
[05:32] <Bugs_Bunnybr> sorry I can`t understand..
[05:33] <flaccid_> Bugs_Bunnybr, if you edited it correctly, you may need to logout and log back in again. otherwise go into system settings and make sure the user is in those groups. verify by going to konsole and typing the command groups
[05:33] <Bugs_Bunnybr> I will logout and comeback here right now!
[05:33] <Bugs_Bunnybr> one secund please
[05:34] <flaccid_> ok
[05:38] <Bugs_Bunnybr> well..I rebooted my machine
[05:38] <Bugs_Bunnybr> and I am with the user ..and I can acess the pen drive
[05:39] <Bugs_Bunnybr> what is wrong with this user?
[05:39] <Bugs_Bunnybr> uid=1001(teste) gid=1001(teste) groups=1001(teste)
[05:40] <Bugs_Bunnybr> he don`t belongs to any group of users..is not in the plugdev and still can acess the pen drive
[05:40] <Bugs_Bunnybr> kubuntu don`t respect the group rules?
[05:41] <flaccid_> Bugs_Bunnybr, like i said goto system settings and make sure the user is in those groups.
[05:42] <se7en> !paste
[05:44] <Bugs_Bunnybr> sorry but I am not a irc user..
[05:44] <Bugs_Bunnybr> someone here has msn?
[05:45] <se7en> Bugs_Bunnybr: if you want to paste multiple lines use the pastbin service ...
[05:45] <flaccid_> we don't use msn support. we have irc.
[05:45] <Bugs_Bunnybr> how I can use the pastbin >
[05:45] <Bugs_Bunnybr> ?
[05:46] <se7en> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[05:46] <se7en> paste here and send us the http
[05:46] <flaccid_> you don't need it Bugs_Bunnybr . goto system settings | users and groups and fix it up there
[05:47] <Bugs_Bunnybr> look the /etc/group
[05:47] <Bugs_Bunnybr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14005/
[05:47] <Bugs_Bunnybr> is in this way ?
[05:47] <se7en> yes
[05:47] <Bugs_Bunnybr> thinks all
[05:47] <Bugs_Bunnybr> thanks all*
[05:49] <flaccid_> Bugs_Bunnybr, its incorrect. please use the gui in system settings
[05:50] <Bugs_Bunnybr> see ..teh user teste ..isn`t in the audio group..but I am listen music
[05:50] <Bugs_Bunnybr> not
[05:50] <Bugs_Bunnybr> what is wrong
[05:50] <Bugs_Bunnybr> ?
[05:50] <flaccid_> i've said it 3 times. goto system settings
[05:50] <Bugs_Bunnybr> ok
[05:51] <Bugs_Bunnybr> waht do you wannt i see in the system settings ?
[05:52] <Bugs_Bunnybr> I cliked in user manager and see the teste user
[05:52] <flaccid_> add it to secondary groups plugdev and dialout
[05:52] <Bugs_Bunnybr> in secundary groups..is clear
[05:52] <flaccid_> atm yes
[05:52] <Bugs_Bunnybr> what is atm?
[05:53] <Bugs_Bunnybr> has a way to show a print screen?
[05:53] <flaccid_> at the moment
[05:53] <Bugs_Bunnybr> hum
[05:53] <flaccid_> you need to add groups plugdev and dialout to this user
[05:55] <Bugs_Bunnybr> I am not here to know what is needed to acess the pen drive...I am here to say..my kubuntu is acessim the pen drive ..but the user is not in the plugdev group..so some thing is wrong
[05:56] <flaccid_> Bugs_Bunnybr, nothing is wrong. you added the user by cli which by default doesn't set secondary groups.
[05:56] <Bugs_Bunnybr> I am listen to music ..without to be in the audio group
[05:56] <flaccid_> i dont' know why that is possible
[05:57] <Bugs_Bunnybr> I added the user by useradd-m teste
[05:57] <Bugs_Bunnybr> not by the gui
[05:57] <flaccid_> i know.
[05:58] <Bugs_Bunnybr> so where I can see this config where talk to the system "you can acess the remontable media"
[05:58] <Bugs_Bunnybr> uhauhauha
[05:59] <Bugs_Bunnybr> if isnt in the /etc/group..I dont know
[05:59] <flaccid_> i dont understand you.
[05:59] <Bugs_Bunnybr> sorry..english is not my first lang
[06:01] <Bugs_Bunnybr> in others distros...I just remove the login name of the user from the line of the group in the /etc/group and the user losts the permissions
[06:01] <Bugs_Bunnybr> but i am lsot here
[06:01] <erythrocyte> can anyone point me where kubuntu stores its icon themes? i installed the kde-icons-oxygen package, but nothing shows up in 'system settings>Appearance>icons' ...maybe the path to which the deb installed is wrong?
[06:01] <flaccid_> thats not the correct way to modify groups for a user Bugs_Bunnybr
[06:01] <Bugs_Bunnybr> but i am lost here
[06:01] <Bugs_Bunnybr> so tell how
[06:02] <flaccid_> Bugs_Bunnybr, usermod generally: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-to-group/
[06:03] <Bugs_Bunnybr> look man..dont matter the gui or program you use to add or remove a user of a group..the program just add the name of the user or remove the name from the /etc/group
[06:03] <bdizzle> hi
[06:04] <Bugs_Bunnybr> to do the test by yourself
[06:04] <bdizzle> I just checked Adept Updater and it said there are 45 packages that need to be updated. Are they for KDE 3.5 still, or is it trying to upgrade me to KDE 4.0 ?
[06:04] <flaccid_> Bugs_Bunnybr, you didn't edit /etc/group correctly.
[06:04] <Bugs_Bunnybr> where is worng?
[06:05] <Bugs_Bunnybr> wrong *
[06:05] <flaccid_> Bugs_Bunnybr, eg. plugdev:x:46:teste
[06:05] <flaccid_> Bugs_Bunnybr, yours only has julio: plugdev:x:46:julio
[06:06] <flaccid_> so  plugdev:x:46:julio,teste
[06:06] <Bugs_Bunnybr> I know..just julio is in the group
[06:07] <Bugs_Bunnybr> but ...teste also has power to acess the pen drive
[06:07] <bdizzle> I just checked Adept Updater and it said there are 45 packages that need to be updated. Are they for KDE 3.5 still, or is it trying to upgrade me to KDE 4.0 ?
[06:07] <Bugs_Bunnybr> it is wrong
[06:07] <flaccid_> !bugs | Bugs_Bunnybr
[06:08] <flaccid_> i don't know if that is intentional or not
[06:08] <Bugs_Bunnybr> do you understand it
[06:08] <_CrashMaster_> bdizzle: its kde3.5 updates
[06:08] <flaccid_> feel free to file a bug bugs bunny
[06:08] <Bugs_Bunnybr> ?
[06:08] <Bugs_Bunnybr> ok
[06:08] <Bugs_Bunnybr> thanks a lot
[06:08] <flaccid_> np
[06:09] <Bugs_Bunnybr> np == no problem ??
[06:09] <_CrashMaster_> Bugs_Bunnybr: Yes.
[06:09] <Bugs_Bunnybr> :D
[06:11] <erythrocyte> can anyone point me where kubuntu stores its icon themes? i installed the kde-icons-oxygen package, but nothing shows up in 'system settings>Appearance>icons' ...maybe the path to which the deb installed is wrong?
[06:15] <dpreacher> can anyone help me with a katapult query please
[06:16] <dpreacher> after a session of adepting some software packages. katapult got configured to not start by default at logon. which it was previously. could someone help me with steps to get it to autotstart?
[06:20] <frybye> flaccid see my pm pse...?
[06:21] <flaccid_> yeah i am not at home atm..
[06:21] <erythrocyte> can anyone point me where kubuntu stores its icon themes? i installed the kde-icons-oxygen package, but nothing shows up in 'system settings>Appearance>icons'
[06:22] <CrashMasterSleep> erythrocyte: Lemme install it and see waht happens.
[06:23] <erythrocyte> CrashMasterSleep: thanks :)
[06:23] <erythrocyte> CrashMasterSleep: i have kubuntu 8.04 (kde 3.5.9)
[06:24] <CrashMasterSleep> erythrocyte: /usr/lib/kde<insert version here>/share/icons/oxygen
[06:25] <erythrocyte> ah finally :) ..thanks...now what do i do to enable it? where do i copy the oxygen folder to?
[06:26] <dpreacher> after a session of adepting some software packages. katapult got configured to not start by default at logon. which it was previously. could someone help me with steps to get it to autotstart?
[06:27] <catunda> hi
[06:48] <se7en> somebody else ssh problems ... i can ssh in the kubuntu box ... but from this debian box scp connects starts and than dies ... all i have on the kubuntu side is the 1. file with 0kb
[06:58] <Myrth[home]> hi, k3b says not enough permissions to access my cd-rw device. which group should i add my user to so it will work?
[07:00] <Jucato> Myrth[home]: "burning" group?
[07:00] <se7en> somebody else ssh problems ... i can ssh in the kubuntu box ... but from this debian box scp connects starts and than dies ... all i have on the kubuntu side is the 1. file with 0kb
[07:04] <philsf> hello. I can't make kmail show my ~/Mail/inbox folder in 'Local folders'. Every other folder in ~/Mail appears as expected. How can I debug to see why it doesn't show?
[07:05] <anarki> hello anyone can help me out, when i moves the mouse cursor over any xml or hrml file, an error pop up (<file dir> has invalid menu entry)
[07:05] <se7en> same problem by the way with samba ... cp files to kubuntu doesn't work here as well ... not even if kubutu browses to the window box ... kubuntu to windows works ... windows to kubntu doesn't ... linux to kubuntu doesn;t
[07:10] <se7en> ssh samba? nobody ...
[07:10] <dpreacher> how can i get katapult to start and remain loaded in memory?
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[07:13] <anarki> dpreacher
[07:13] <ThreeFinity> Anybody know what would cause my sound to randomly stop working and only loop like .5 second of a song and then stop working all together? using 8.04 with hda-intel ALC883 on alsa 1.0.1.16.
[07:14] <dpreacher> anarki katapult was configured to autorun by default on initial kubuntu gutsy but now it is not autostarting and hence alt-space has no effect. i'm used to alt-space with launchy on windows and katapult on kubuntu :)
[07:15] <anarki> i'm running 8.04 and its working.
[07:16] <frybye> I notice quite a lot of the avail. documentation in fact refers to 7.10 - in what sort of time frame could one hope this to progress to 8.04?
[07:21] <ThreeFinity> Anybody know what would cause my sound to randomly stop working and only loop like .5 second of a song and then stop working all together? using 8.04 with hda-intel ALC883 on alsa 1.0.1.16.
[07:36] <DarkriftX> anyone know where i can find those statistics that show how much of the internet is hosted on linux? i need a site to quote lol, something reliable (or you could give me a hint on what keywords to search for)
[07:38] <emilsedgh> DarkriftX: netcraft.com ?
[07:38] <DarkriftX> cool, ill check it
[07:38] <DarkriftX> ty
[07:41] <philsf> hello. I can't make kmail show my ~/Mail/inbox folder in 'Local folders'. Every other folder in ~/Mail appears as expected. How can I debug to see why it doesn't show?
[07:42] <philsf> ThreeFinity: try 'killall pulseaudio'
[07:50] <philsf> I can't make kmail show my ~/Mail/inbox folder in 'Local folders'. Every other folder in ~/Mail appears as expected. How can I debug to see why it doesn't show?
[07:54] <DarkriftX> emilsedgh, ty, took a while, but i found it on there :)
[07:55] <emilsedgh> nice DarkriftX
[07:56] <crazy_bus> I plugged in a microphone, checked the levels in kmix.  But the microphone doesn't seem to be working.  How do I test it?
[08:05] <asa> anyone having hardy submenu issues in qt apps?
[08:05] <asa> I am not able to see any submenus in eric on gnome
[08:06] <anarki> how can i create new workspace (like in ubuntu)?
[08:09] <flaccid_> anarki, i don't believe you can
[08:09] <flaccid_> whats a workspace in gnome/ubuntu anyway? thats not a desktop is it?
[08:09] <rfcompte> anarki:right click on the workspaces pager
[08:10] <rfcompte> anarki:right click on the workspaces pager
[08:10] <flaccid_> oh i thought they were called desktops. same thing i guess
[08:10] <rfcompte> sorry for the repost
[08:11] <anarki> np
[08:11] <anarki> then  ?
[08:11] <rfcompte> anarki: then just click configure
[08:11] <rfcompte> anarki. and select the number of spaces that you want
[08:12] <fildo> away: city
[08:12] <anarki> its the desktop numbers not the work spaces no.
[08:12] <anarki> anyway it dosnt work to increase it up (more than 2)
[08:14] <flaccid_> anarki, are you running any desktop effects/compiz or a window manager besides kwin?
[08:14] <anarki> yes
[08:14] <flaccid_> thats why
[08:15] <flotishtu> how to use or open files of an .iso without burning it one cd ?
[08:15] <rfcompte> flotishtu: iso master
[08:15] <ubunturos> flotishtu: on the command line, you could loop mount the iso to a folder, to view its contents
[08:16] <flaccid_> !iso | flotishtu
[08:17] <flaccid_> heya jono, ciao jono :)
[08:17] <flotishtu> flaccid iam new
[08:18] <flotishtu> rfcompte iso master is an app that can open .iso images?
[08:19] <stdin> flotishtu: k3b can create .isos and it's pre-installed
[08:19] <flotishtu> stdin i dont want to creat . i already have one that i what to open and use its files without burining it
[08:19] <rfcompte> flotishtu: yes
[08:20] <flotishtu> k
[08:20] <ejz> hi
[08:20] <rfcompte> flotishtu: it can also extract single files from an iso image
[08:20] <ejz> someone speaks russian?
[08:20] <stdin> !ru
[08:20] <ubunturos> flotishtu: see the !iso description above, and you'll have a solution to your problem
[08:20] <flotishtu> k
[08:21]  * stdin recommends http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MountFile?content=61955 :)
[08:24] <crazy_bus> I plugged in a microphone, checked the levels in kmix.  But the microphone doesn't seem to be working. How do I test it?
[08:32] <flotishtu> flaccid can you help me to use sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> ?
[08:33] <flotishtu> any one?
[08:35] <stdin> flotishtu: like: sudo mount -o loop ~/my-file.iso ~/empty_directory
[08:35] <flotishtu> hm
[08:40] <flotishtu> stdin http://pastebin.com/m79f1d17b
[08:40] <stdin> flotishtu: if the path contains spaces, put it in quotes
[08:41] <flotishtu> k
[08:42] <flotishtu> how to unmount it?
[08:42] <se7en> sudo mount -o loop /home/user1/need\ for\ speed\ hot\ pursuit\ 2.iso /home/user1/Desktop/nfs
[08:43] <flotishtu> how to unmount it?
[08:43] <stdin> flotishtu: to unmount just do "sudo umount /where/you/mounted/it"
[08:43] <stdin> and, yes, I mean "umount" _not_ "unmount" ;)
[08:44] <flotishtu> i think it needs to be treated as its mounted as a real cd rom. how to mount it in the cdrom?
[08:45] <stdin> mounting the file is the same as mounting the CD
[08:45] <stdin> most thinks look in /cdrom for CDs though
[08:45] <flotishtu> it says cd rom not found
[08:45] <stdin> mount it to /cdrom
[08:45] <stdin> which should be a link to somewhere, probably /media/cdrom0
[08:49] <flotishtu> $ sudo mount -o loop '/home/user1/need for speed hot pursuit 2.iso' /media/cdrom0
[08:49] <flotishtu> user1@computer1:~$ sudo mount -o loop '/home/user1/need for speed hot pursuit 2.iso' /media/cdrom
[08:49] <flotishtu> user1@computer1:~$
[08:49] <flotishtu> but its not showing it
[08:49] <stdin> what does ls /media/cdrom show?
[08:50] <flotishtu> how to see
[08:50] <stdin> type "ls /media/cdrom" into the terminal
[08:51] <flotishtu> well it is showing the iso contents. but when i brows /media. and click cdrom. it doesnt shows it there.
[08:51] <stdin> hmm, try clicking refresh in the file manager
[08:53] <flotishtu> k
[08:53] <flotishtu> nop
[08:53] <flotishtu> but thanks. i got what i needed
[08:53] <flotishtu> thanks again :)
[08:53] <stdin> k :)
[08:55] <crazy_bus> can anyone help me get my microphone working?
[09:05] <anarki> while compiz is not officially supported ,then what is the similar program that supported ?
[09:06] <Jucato> compiz is officially supported (in Ubuntu). we just don't install it by default in Kubuntu
[09:06] <Jucato> and usually redirect questions to #compiz-fusion
[09:07] <anarki> ty
[09:07] <crazy_bus> should I just uninstall pulseaudio?
[09:12] <crazy_bus> restarting to see if that helps
[09:16] <zarlino> hi all today i updated apache2 from hardy-updates
[09:16] <zarlino> i won't start anymore!
[09:16] <zarlino> apache2 i mean
[09:17]  * madberry is away: Gone away for now.
[09:17]  * madberry is back.
[09:24]  * madberry is away: Gone away for now.
[09:26] <stdin> !away > madberry
[09:39] <mooper> hi, sometimes, like now, i cant use shift or caps lock. i have a virtual machine with win xp and that works fine....any ideas/
[09:41] <apostol> do you speak russian?
[09:41] <apostol> ))
[09:48] <crazy_bus> is there anyway to get microphones working with pulseaudio?
[09:50] <maxmaxmax> I need to change the time : hour in my system linux, what is the command?
[09:50] <mountain-linux> After updating 7.10, my terminals do not start. were do i fix it?
[10:00] <makdaknife> maxmaxmax: the command is date
[10:00] <maxmaxmax> I need to change the time : hour in my system linux, what is the command (I wanna do it on the shell)?
[10:01] <maxmaxmax> ok
[10:01] <maxmaxmax> thanks
[10:01] <makdaknife> maxmaxmax: man date
[10:01] <makdaknife> maxmaxmax: also look at ntpclient
[10:09] <fildo> !x11vnc
[10:30] <MvG> I've got a pretty fresh installation of kubuntu on a notebook, changing over from Gentoo. Is there any "official" support for having different profiles in different environments, official meaning that it is likely to integrrate better than other tools with the rest of the kubuntu workings?
[10:34] <pteague> any ideas as to why k3b hangs sometimes when it gets to the part where it's supposed to verify the data's been written correctly?
[10:34] <antonio_> hi guys, after i upgraded to hardy, the battery length dropped a lot
[10:35] <antonio_> does anyone have a clue??!! ;)
[10:35] <pteague> MvG: networkmanager ?
[10:37] <MvG> pteague: Not only network settings, but also Xorg config and stuff like that.
[10:37] <PY> Hello there, y'all probably don't remember me, but I return with information
[10:38] <PY> Apparently, Hardy Heron freaks about my USB, it gets much much closer to booting when I run them in low power mode, and would probably run if I turned them off, but my keyboard and mouse are USB, so... any help?
[10:40] <PY> ... best not to ask at 10 o' clock GMT, eh?
[10:50] <Pennycook> MvG: Desktop effects might be causing that.
[11:00] <widmo> hi
[11:01] <widmo> i am new user of ubyuntu, i don't have sound in ubuntu plis help me
[11:01] <PY> Got drivers for your card?
[11:02] <widmo> when i hacve 7.10 (?) i haev sound when i update to 10.2(?) sound disapearing
[11:02] <PY> Eh, 8.04 killed my USB and won't boot, I'm here for help too
[11:03] <PY> I'd reccomend coming back later, these people seem to be asleep...
[12:04] <djdarkman> does someone know a good article/command on how to make automatic SSH authentifications?
[12:16] <makdaknife> djdarkman: you want to set up keys, and probably use ssh-add
[12:17] <djdarkman> makdaknife: http://www.krisalan.com/?p=73  I tried this and worked, is this good?
[12:17] <djdarkman> or ssh-add is better?
[12:19] <makdaknife> sure that's just creating a passwordless key... that would work... I prefer to keep a password on my key (its more secure) and then use ssh-add to store it once I login, so that I do not have to keep entering it
[12:19] <stdin> djdarkman: the last 3 steps there is what ssh-add does for you
[12:19] <llutz> djdarkman: " No-Password SSH" is evil
[12:19] <makdaknife> djdarkman: check out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[12:20] <makdaknife> djdarkman: the documentation is fairly thorough... and will give you a lot of tips on what you can do with ssh
[12:20] <widmo> hi, i have problem. When i have ubuntu 7.10 i have sound, but when i update to ubuntu 10.4 i lost sound plese help mi(i am noob :) )
[12:21] <djdarkman> llutz: why is no password ssh evil?
[12:22] <djdarkman> if o one has access to my computer but me, and they can`t get my password by reading my traffic than it should be safe no?
[12:22] <djdarkman> *no one
[12:24] <crs> re
[12:39] <kalib> hi guys...
[12:39] <Kaled> hi
[12:39] <Kaled> Can anyone help me to configure an HDA sound card on Kubuntu?
[12:39] <Kaled> I have no sound at all
[12:40] <kalib> I'm using kubuntu 8.04 with the default kde version... i wanna test kde 4... if i just type aptitude install kde4.. it will work? i mean... if i don't like it, i can choose to start my session on the old kde?
[12:41] <crs> kalib: Yes. You can use kdm to chose which dm you want to run. I prefer to create new user for kde4 testing.
[12:43] <crs> What do I need to build package with utf8 support?
[12:44] <Kaled> Help pls
[12:45] <kalib> crs, ok... i do just need to install the package kde4?
[12:47] <kalib> Kaled, wich version of kubuntu are you using?
[12:47] <kalib> i had the same problem with kubuntu 7.10... but in 8.04 is working for me
[12:47] <crs> kalib: apt-get install kde4
[12:47] <kalib> crs, thanks...
[12:47] <kalib> i just prefer to use aptitude.. but..anyway...is the same package...thanks
I see...the fact is that I tested other linux distros too...OpenSuse,Fedora9...I've tried even Sun OpenSolaris
[12:49] <Kaled> They all seem to detect the sound card
[12:49] <Kaled> but there's no sound
[12:50] <Pici> Intel HDA?
[12:50] <Kaled> yes
[12:50] <Pici> !intelhda
[12:50] <Pici> That might help you
[12:50] <K_Wolf> man
[12:50] <kalib> ;]
[12:51] <K_Wolf> have Ubuntu widescreen support?
[12:51] <crs> K_Wolf: ?
[12:51] <Kaled> thanks.....but that requires disabling the card from BIOS...and that goes way beyond my knowledge
[12:51] <Kaled> I can't get it right...I'm sure
[12:52] <Kaled> hehe
[12:52] <crs> Does anyone has a problem with flash in konq? I have found super sollution. ;-)
...and...how can I find out my Kubuntu version? sorry...I'm a newby to linux
[12:53] <K_Wolf> crs: Well, my lcd widescreen doesnt works with ubuntu
[12:54] <crs> K_Wolf: my works, what happening to yours?
[12:54] <K_Wolf> I guess that can be the video drive
[12:54] <K_Wolf> VIA 9
[12:54] <crs> K_Wolf: what vcard have you got?
[12:54] <K_Wolf> VIA CHROME 9
[12:55] <kalib> Kaled, type this command on the terminal:
[12:56] <kalib> Kaled, cat /etc/issue
[12:56] <kalib> it will show you your current version
[12:57] <Kaled> great
[12:57] <Kaled> it's an 8.04
[12:57] <Kaled> at list now I know my version hehehe
[12:58] <Kaled> Thanks man
[13:01] <pteague> oh joy "Could not install 'slapd' \ The upgrade will continue but the 'slapd' package may be in a not working state. Please consider submitting a bugreport about it."
[13:01] <Dr_willis> !info slapd
[13:02] <pteague> yeah, i'm upgrading to 8.04 using the nifty gui thing
[13:02] <Dr_willis> you may want to remove it, then reinstall it after the upgrade
[13:02] <pteague> k
[13:03] <pteague> *sigh* why can't the apache config files at least set a default ServerName ?
[13:03] <kalib> Kaled, you're welcome ;]
[13:04] <pteague> oh well... at least ldap isn't that important... installed it to mess around with it
[13:10] <crs> ok, Im busy migrating my $HOME to new ubuntu. ;-)
[13:11] <uko> raga ho un problema... su kde 4 si scuriscono delle parti
[13:11] <Pici> !it
[13:11] <uko> ok sorry
[13:11] <Pici> :)
[13:12] <zizzone80> ciao a tutti
[13:12] <Pici> !it | zizzone80
[13:13] <zizzone80> tempo di entrare..............
[13:21] <Pennycook> okay, really starting the revision.... now
[13:26] <rewt_> new install of kunbuntu... any idea how I can get it to work with dual monitors?
[13:26] <Dr_willis> rewt_,  depends on the video card.
[13:26] <rewt_> ati radeon, dual head
[13:26] <Dr_willis> for my nvidia I  install the 2 nvidia tools from the repos, and i use them to enable twinview.
[13:26] <Dr_willis> ati = no clue :)
[13:26] <Dr_willis> !dualhead
[13:26] <rewt_> rats
[13:27] <rewt_> ok
[13:27] <rewt_> !Xinerama
[13:27] <rewt_> ok, this is another question I have...
[13:27] <rewt_> not related
[13:28] <rewt_> I am guessing that downloaded apps, which are supopsedly downloaded ot my desktop, just show up in the file manager, not on my desktop for a good reason?
[13:30] <rewt_> where do I get skype for kubuntu?
[13:31] <pteague> how were they downloaded?
[13:31] <rewt_> firefox
[13:31] <PPSD> does anyone know where to set powersave settings for the hdd in ubuntu?
[13:32] <pteague> then that's based on your settings in firefox
[13:33] <rewt_> nah, FF saved to Desktop dir
[13:33] <rewt_> it's there, in ~/Desktop
[13:33] <rewt_> but it doesn't show on my Desktop
[13:33] <pteague> skype should be in the repos, but you may have to enable the partner repos
[13:33] <PPSD> no one?
[13:33] <rewt_> how woudl i enable those?
[13:34] <pteague> rewt_: weird, but then again i don't think i've ever downloaded to desktop anyways
[13:34] <pteague> via adept manager i'm not sure...
[13:35] <rewt_> think I found it
[13:35] <Jucato> !skype
[13:36] <pteague> or that works too ;)
[13:38] <rewt_> where does kubuntu keep the repository list for apt-get?
[13:38] <Jucato> !repositories | rewt_
[13:38] <pteague> same place as any other debian distro... /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:38] <Jucato> (in /etc/apt/sources.list )
[13:38] <rewt_> thanks
[13:38] <pteague> & you can put individual .list files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[13:43] <rewt_> can anyone pull up http://www.hostdime.com ?
[13:47] <vlt> Hello. Which group members are allowed to start and stop printers by default?
[13:49] <Pici> vlt: I would think lpadmin , but I'm not really sure
[14:00] <rewt_> I think I'll end up having to use just one monitor.
[14:00] <rewt_> kinda sad
[14:00] <paoligno>  hi. are there widget libs lighter than gtk ?
[14:00] <vlt> Pici: Thank you.
[14:01] <crs> How can I create group wheel?
[14:01] <CoyoteClone> Hello :)
[14:02] <CoyoteClone> I'm using XInerama, and since then, I can't access the Desktop part of the KDE config center
[14:02] <CoyoteClone> anyone one has the same problem ?
[14:02] <pag> crs, "sudo groupadd wheel" ?
[14:02] <CoyoteClone> When i said can'ty access, it crashed kcontrol
[14:02] <CoyoteClone> all the time
[14:03] <crs> pag: yy, ok. ;-)
[14:12] <dthacker> rewt_: no, can't pull that site up
[14:20] <shane_2_peru> how do I install kde4?  I have an Ubuntu installation, and installed Kubuntu-desktop, and it is kde3
[14:20] <shane_2_peru> since I'm going to learn kde, I should start with kde4. :)
[14:21] <jdavies> !kde4
[14:21] <porta_ss> hi there...I need help. I have a SB [HDA ATI SB] sound card and I get no sound...any ideas?
[14:21] <shane_2_peru> thanks jdavies  I will check it out!
[14:35] <Itaku> what does this error mean?
[14:35] <Itaku> The desktop entry file
[14:35] <Itaku> has an invalid menu entry
[14:35] <Itaku> addAsPodcast.
[14:35] <Itaku> in dolphin
[14:42] <SilentDis> !lamp
[14:44] <drurew> i am experianing trange
[14:44] <drurew> thing
[14:45] <drurew> key
[14:45] <drurew> not orking
[14:45] <drurew> ee
[14:46] <tortoisehead> i've got a problem with mouseover tooltips. colors don't seem to obey the system colors for either user or root
[14:46] <drurew> how m ay i re *et the key*oar*
[14:46] <tortoisehead> actually, text obeys system colors (is white) while the background is some sort of unreadable tan
[14:46] <tortoisehead> anyone know where i can change that tan to something else?
[14:50] <drurew> i : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, + pro*a*ly gave it the wrong layout
[14:52] <drurew> i *ant sudo -s...key*oar*layout give u a* z or *imilar
[14:52] <drurew> on **reen keyoar* ha* hole*
[14:53] <drurew> any i*ea*?
[14:54] <Jucato> !info klavier
[14:56] <jabba> drurew: um, are you having a consonant problem?
[14:57] <jabba> ah, i just read up a page. disregard.
[14:57] <drurew> keys on the virtual keyboard are represented as boxes. keys :s,d,c,b and others
[14:58] <drurew> will try GUI
[14:59] <teste> someone here knows how edit the udev rules?
[15:00] <shane_2_peru> is anyone running kde4???  is it pretty stable??
[15:00] <shane_2_peru> or is it going to bork my system?
[15:02] <Pennycook> shane_2_peru: I'm running KDE4 and it's stable. It might not be as complete as you'd like, though; lots of the applications you run are actually KDE3 and there aren't many widgets for the desktop, etc
[15:02] <flaccid> extra widgets are going hectic on my cpu unfortunately
[15:03] <shane_2_peru> Pennycook: well, I'm still learning kde, so I don't run widgets, not even sure what widgets I would want. lol
[15:03] <shane_2_peru> I'm a Gnomer, but there are a lot of apps that are further advanced for the kde desktop, so I figured why not just run kde.
[15:04] <flaccid> cool well kde3 is pretty stable. rock solid so they say heh
[15:04] <shane_2_peru> I installed the KDE4 before, just to see what it looked like, and liked the look, so I thought about installing it
[15:04] <tortoisehead> figured it out
[15:04] <tortoisehead> it's a problem with the domino theme
[15:04] <genii> shane_2_peru: I have both installed but find I use kde3 more for now
[15:04] <tortoisehead> er, style
[15:05] <shane_2_peru> genii: are you a long time KDE'r ?  I mean are you used to the way kde3 runs?  and have it all setup?
[15:06] <Jucato> tortoisehead: you can set Domino to either use its your colors for tooltips or not
[15:06] <shane_2_peru> genii: ooooor do you use kde3 more because of the stability factor?
[15:06] <genii> shane_2_peru: Yes.
[15:06] <shane_2_peru> genii: stability then, I assume was the yes.
[15:07] <shane_2_peru> genii: thanks for the info, I guess since I can run them both, I will have to give kde4 a try. :)  Thanks for the input everyone.
[15:07] <Jucato> KDE 4.1 is actually pretty stable now and a lot of features have been added to Plasma that *almost* makes it useable. It's really only Plasma (and kdepim... and kopete...) that are "not there yet"
[15:07] <genii> shane_2_peru: Stability mostly at this point, yes. Also functionality as the plasma/widget system is not quite what it could be yet
[15:07] <shane_2_peru> genii: plasma, wooow, I thought that was a TV lol
[15:08] <genii> !plasma
[15:08] <genii> hmm
[15:08] <shane_2_peru> I don't even think I used widgets in Gnome, just conky
[15:08] <flaccid> kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde4
[15:08] <shane_2_peru> ok, thanks all, I will have to check out this kde4 stuff.
[15:09] <Jucato> shane_2_peru: Plasma is more than just "widgets" (although the theme is "everything is a widget"). It completely replaces KDesktop and Kicker (the panel)
[15:09] <Jucato> so Plasma *is* the desktop and the panel.
[15:09] <teste> how I can search for channels about ubuntu?
[15:09] <Jucato> (but flaccid's right... #kubuntu-kde4)
[15:09] <shane_2_peru> Jucato: is plasma in kde4 or kde3?  I may have to google that.
[15:10] <Jucato> shane_2_peru: KDE 4. it replaces KDE 3's KDesktop (desktop) and Kicker (panel)
[15:10] <shane_2_peru> Jucato: ahh, ok, now that makes a little more sense
[15:11] <teste> what is the channel in portuguese Brasil of kubuntu ?
[15:12] <flaccid> !br
[15:12] <teste> ok
[15:23] <crs> hmmm
[15:28] <slawek> cze
[15:28] <crs> slawek: Po ang pisz. :)
[15:28] <Jucato> !pl
[15:28] <slawek> oki
[15:29] <luigi_> ciao
[15:29] <luigi_> !list
[15:36] <slawek> #se
[15:37] <FoxII> Hi all. I am trying to set up a usbadslmodem using the usbadslmodemmanager package in Hardy. Is there a way I can find out what dependencies it needs?
[15:37] <flaccid> !adsl | FoxII
[15:38] <pteague> !kate
[15:39] <pteague> ok, that's not useful... is there a way to get kate to do auto spell checking as you type?
[15:41] <FoxII> Thanks flaccid
[15:41] <flaccid> np
[15:42] <Steve-cal> I'm trying to modify a file owned by root, and I'm getting a "timestamp too far in the future" error when I try to do anything to it. I think it has to do with my clock being wrong before I corrected it. But how to get around that error?
[15:43] <xirurg> здарова
[15:43] <xirurg> я харбак
[15:43] <xirurg> из лузьбеля
[15:43] <flaccid> !english | xirurg
[15:43] <flaccid> !ru
[15:43] <xirurg> o sorry
[15:44] <flaccid> np
[15:44] <xirurg> I don't speak english
[15:48] <vlt> Hello. Can Amarok import tracks from an Audio CD and store it (as ogg) in my music collection?
[15:49] <flaccid> not sure, but kde can
[15:49] <flaccid> !ripping
[15:49] <jabba> what is the cd (data) burning utility called?
[15:49] <flaccid> !k3b | jabba
[15:50] <jabba> flaccid: gracias
[15:50] <flaccid> np
[15:50] <Steve-cal> Why doesn't Kubuntu come with Synaptic Package Manager? Is that considered only a Gnome app? And is the Adept Manager just as good?
[15:50] <oilinki> how about ripping video-cd's?
[15:50] <Pici> Synaptic is Gnome's package manager.
[15:50] <jabba> Steve-cal: mine has it...?
[15:51] <flaccid> Steve-cal: yeah adept is fine as well
[15:51] <oilinki> we have a big collection of karaoke vcd's and rest of the family would like to have those in the harddisk
[15:51] <Steve-cal> jabba: Am I being dumb and totally missing it? I just clean installed Kubuntu 8.04 and I don't see it in the menus. Where do I find it?
[15:52] <flaccid> oilinki: um not sure, but you might be able to just copy the files over for those
[15:52] <jabba> Steve-cal: mine lives under the System menu.
[15:52] <jabba> but i'm on kde4/adm64
[15:52] <jabba> amd, too
[15:52] <oilinki> flaccid: as ISO image? that would be the best but at least K9copy could not do it.
[15:53] <oilinki> k9copy is great as it's so easy to use (my wife like to rip her own stuff as well)
[15:53] <flaccid> oilinki: isn't vcd just mpeg and so forth. can't you just copy the files and play with kaffeine or vlc?
[15:53] <flaccid> depends if it has copy protection i guess
[15:53] <flaccid> !vcd
[15:53] <flaccid> hmm
[15:53] <oilinki> flaccid: I could try to do so.
[15:54] <Daisuke-Laptop> there's a little more to it, but not much
[15:54] <oilinki> the iso image format is still the best as it's easy to open and use with kaffeine and vlc
[15:54] <Daisuke-Laptop> however, if it's a typical karaoke, it's cd+g rather than vcd, which gets a little trickier
[15:54] <oilinki> Daisuke-Laptop: what is cd+g?
[15:55] <oilinki> ah. wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD%2BG
[15:55] <Steve-cal> Just to clarify--does Kubuntu just come with Konqueror? I thought it would also come with Firefox like Ubuntu, but no?
[15:56] <Daisuke-Laptop> Steve-cal: just konqueror, but you can always sudo apt-get install firefox :)
[15:59] <Steve-cal> Daisuke-Laptop: Thanks. :)
[16:00] <Steve-cal> In my System menu, if I run "Adept Manager" nothing happens. It's entry under Menu Editor shows it is only being run as "apept_manager" and not as root (with kdesu)--what's with this?
[16:04] <Steve-cal> Is there anyone else here who has freshly installed kubuntu 8.04? I checked in Adept Manager and Synaptic is not installed. Doesn't Synaptic come with Kubuntu?
[16:05] <Pici> Steve-cal: No, Synaptic comes with Gnome.
[16:06] <Steve-cal> Pici: OK, so Adept is Synaptic's equivalent? And if so, any chance you can answer my question of why it is not run as root from my System menu?
[16:07] <Pici> Steve-cal: Yes, they are equivalent, but I'm not much of a KDE person, I'm not sure why that would be happening.
[16:09] <nosrednaekim> Steve-cal: you can run it with "kdesudo adept_manager"
[16:09] <nosrednaekim> if its not working...
[16:10] <Steve-cal> nosrednaekim: Yes, thanks I know that, but that's why I don't understand why it isn't run as root from my K menu--must be a mistake.
[16:10] <Mac40DO> Hi! I installed sun-java5-plugin, but it does not show up in firefox 2 (about:plugins)
[16:10] <guilhermeblanco> Mac40DO: forget it... it won't work
[16:11] <guilhermeblanco> even if you install from Sun page
[16:11] <guilhermeblanco> I'm here for over a month trying to see anyone that got it working, without success...
[16:11] <Mac40DO> guilhermeblanco: so I can't browse sites with java with firefox?
[16:11] <guilhermeblanco> Mac40DO: it seems ff3 works
[16:11] <guilhermeblanco> but I'm not sure
[16:11] <guilhermeblanco> I haven't installed it
[16:12] <Mac40DO> guilhermeblanco: possible, but I need the firebug addon for firefox for development reasons.
[16:12] <guilhermeblanco> me 2
[16:12] <Mac40DO> And firegub is not ff3 ready
[16:12] <Mac40DO> firebug
[16:12] <guilhermeblanco> that's why I haven't installed it too
[16:13] <guilhermeblanco> but kubuntu works ok with both versions installed
[16:13] <guilhermeblanco> one is called firefox-2 and the other is only firefox
[16:13] <Mac40DO> guilhermeblanco: ok, thanx
[16:16] <guilhermeblanco> you're welcome....
[16:16] <guilhermeblanco> out to lunch
[16:17] <Steve-cal> In Adept Manager, if I just click on "upgradable packages" and "upgrade requested" it doesn't show any packages, yet at the bottom it says there are 90 upgradable packages. What am I missing? (I'm new at using Adept).
[16:17] <nosrednaekim> Steve-cal: you previously used synaptic?
[16:18] <nosrednaekim> Steve-cal: I still reccomend using synaptic.
[16:18] <tsb> What's the deal with mono? Why does "bloggers" insist on removing it?
[16:26] <Amarilis> i want to give for a limited time to a regular user root privilegies .how can i do that ?
[16:26] <llutz> Amarilis: you shouldn't. ask what he want, think, do it for him (or not)
[16:29] <jabba> OOooohh compiz just went nutty
[16:30] <jabba> haha, wild
[16:30] <jabba> i'm going to have to update my users' desktops. :D
[16:33] <jabba> i have forgotten where kde keeps its screensaver settings. how do i restart it?
[16:38] <GunZ> hey guys, if i start the kubuntu livecd, will I be able to use perl?
[16:38] <GunZ> i mean without installing of course
[16:38]  * jabba checks
[16:38] <rickest> GunZ: yes
[16:38] <GunZ> rickest, cool
[16:38] <GunZ> thanks
[16:39] <GunZ> erm... is that included on older versions too?
[16:39] <rickest> almost certainly
[16:39] <GunZ> like 6
[16:39] <GunZ> perfect
[16:39] <GunZ> thanks
[16:39] <BluesKaj> jabba, right click on the desktop , configure desktop, screensaver
[16:39] <jabba> BluesKaj: thank you.
[16:39] <jabba> BluesKaj: was there an update or something to compiz or xgl?
[16:40] <BluesKaj> dunno , I don't run compiz
[16:40] <jabba> ok, thanks. it was kinda weird. all of a sudden my windows started wiggling!
[16:41] <jabba> hm. actually, it's not there under the right-click on the desktop. i get 'configure desktop - plasma workspace'
[16:41] <BluesKaj> like I said I don't run compiz
[16:42] <jabba> hm, ok.
[16:42] <pim> How can I change the resolution?
[16:42] <kevman> Is there any way to get a WLAN NC to automatically start on boot?
[16:42] <BluesKaj> wobbly windows ..what a rush ..... :)
[16:43] <jabba> it's more "wiggly" than "wobbly", but it is fun :)
[16:43] <BluesKaj> pim, sytem settings/monitor&display
[16:44] <pim> Ah thanks
[16:45] <ubuntu_> Kann hier auch einer Deutsch?
[16:45] <pim> Ich ein bisschen
[16:45] <pim> aber es gibt auch wohl ein deutsschprachigen irc channel
[16:46] <llutz> !de
[16:46] <jdavies> !de | ubottu
[16:46] <ubuntu_> Ich bin mommentan auf kubunto mit der Dektop CD... Wie kann ich den Prozessor so richtig gut auslasten... Ich hab nämlich in Verdacht, dass mein CPU defekt ist..
[16:46] <jdavies> damn tab
[16:47] <pim> man kann dafür prime95 benutzen
[16:47] <pim> Ich habe's benutzt um die stabilität eines pc zu testen
[16:48] <BluesKaj> hey pim , perhaps you and your friends can carry on in #kubuntu-de
[16:48] <emilsedgh> !de | pim
[16:48] <pim> BluesKaj Okay
[16:48] <ubuntu_> jo... hab ich schon getestet... Das ist ja ein Dauertest, nach 2 Stunden bin ich auf Stoppen gegangen und 1 min später ist mein PC wieder eingefroren xD
[16:48] <pim> ubuntu_ lassen wir mal nach kubuntu-de gehen
[16:48] <kevman> Is there a way to have NICs start on boot without using the horridly awful knetworkmanager?
[16:48] <ubuntu_> kk
[16:50] <gerd_> Hi
[16:51] <FoxII> Was just in asking about usbadslmodem and was referred to a ubuntu page regarding setting it up. Unfortunately, it did not work on my machine. Apart from getting usbadslmodemmanager working and finding the dependencies it requires, I am at a loss :/
[16:52] <BluesKaj> kevman, NICs ?
[16:52] <kevman> Network Interface Cards
[16:53] <llutz> kevman: use old-fashioned ifupdown and configure your network in /etc/network/interfaces
 Hello there, y'all probably don't remember me, but I return with information
 Apparently, Hardy Heron freaks about my USB, it gets much much closer to booting when I run them in low power mode, and would probably run if I turned them off, but my keyboard and mouse are USB, so... any help?
[16:53] <kevman> I guess so... Knetworkmanager is so buggy I can't use it. I get an XML parsing error whenever I use it to enable my WLAN NIC.
[16:55] <Pey> Any help?
[16:56] <kevman> low power mode/
[16:56] <kevman> ?
[16:56] <Pey> Yeah
[16:56] <Pey> Err, in the BIOS
[16:56] <Pey> Low speed, I mean
[16:57] <esteban> hi
[16:57] <kevman> You could try booting with nousb and hope your BIOS wraps the keyboard and mouse...
[16:57] <Pey> Do what?
[16:58] <Pey> Note please that I have no experience with linux
[16:58] <genii> Pey: This is boot from hard drive or livecd?
[16:58] <Pey> Both, but that was liveCD
[16:59] <kevman> Pey, this a Dell?
[16:59] <Pey> It's worked once, which is confusing
[16:59] <Pey> Yes
[16:59] <Pey> Should have mentioned
[16:59] <Pey> Inspiron 530S
[16:59] <Pey> Read they've had problems :S
[16:59] <kevman> Nah, its assumed when there's USB problems.
[16:59] <Pey> Haha
[16:59] <Pey> A fix, then?
[16:59] <kevman> Dells have the worst USB ports EVER CONCIEVED BY MAN.
[16:59] <Pey> Oh god
[16:59] <kevman> Never never never never ever never never use a USB keyboard with a dell.
[16:59] <Pey> <_<
[17:00] <RurouniJones> subtle
[17:00] <Pey> The fact that it doesn't have any (open) PS/2 ports doesn't bode well, then?
[17:00] <Pey> Anyway, I've never had a problem with them in windows
[17:00] <kevman> Oh, THOSE.
[17:00] <RurouniJones> You can have my PS2 ports when you pry them from my cold dead hands
[17:00] <Pey> Oh, ok
[17:00] <Pey> Come here, Rur
[17:00] <kevman> Only use them in the TOP USB ports.
[17:01] <RurouniJones> I never understood why people maligned them so much. They were perfectly functional, why the switch to USB?
[17:01] <Pey> Am doing
[17:01] <RurouniJones> Just uses up ports that other USB only things need.
[17:01] <Pey> Ruro, USB is an industry standard
[17:01] <kevman> Pey, really? I've had noththing but problems with that model in Windows too
[17:01]  * RurouniJones says from his Laptop with no PS/2 ports
[17:01] <Pey> They, like, must use it, or people will call them old fasioned
[17:01] <Pey> Oh, no, windows runs perfectly
[17:02] <Pey> Smooth, fast, and error free :P
[17:02] <pim> That's what you think is going on
[17:02] <Pey> Hmm?
[17:03] <RurouniJones> Like a swan, serene and graceful on top, paddling like a crack cocaine adict below the waterline
[17:03] <pim> Windows doesn't really run smooth at all :p
[17:03] <RurouniJones> That is my description of windows
[17:03] <plut0nash> Hi i just figured out
[17:03] <RurouniJones> especially cista
[17:03] <Pey> Haha, yes
[17:03] <Pey> But the swan looks pretty :>
[17:03] <plut0nash> how to stop that mouse pausing on keypress issue
[17:03] <pim> Vista really is bad
[17:03] <plut0nash> :P
[17:03] <plut0nash> so
[17:03] <plut0nash> erm
[17:03] <Pey> Oh, I think VIsta is great, best windows so far
[17:03] <BluesKaj> !windows
[17:03] <plut0nash> if anyone wants to know, remove the mac mouse emulation
[17:03] <plut0nash> :)
[17:03] <RurouniJones> I had to install some programs on a Vista machine yesterday, only me second yime using it...and it was in Japanese
[17:04] <Pey> Heh
[17:04] <pim> The programmers spent about a day on the Kernel, and a couple of years on the interfase
[17:04] <RurouniJones> so I kept getting those bloody UAC boxes popping up IN JAPANESE
[17:04] <Pey> Nasty, yeah
[17:04] <pim> hahaha
[17:04] <Pey> Dunno why <______<
[17:04] <RurouniJones> "STOP TORMENTING ME WITH THESE STRANGE SYMBOLS"
[17:04] <pim> :D
[17:04] <Pey> I like my vista, but... you know, KDE4 has me stricken
[17:04] <kevman> Well, I was doing a programming competition with that exact model, Pey....
[17:04] <RurouniJones> It took me about 5 times to install daemon tools because I had to trial and error each confirmation box
[17:05] <kevman> And we had nothing but problems making the keyboards work.
[17:05] <Pey> Owie
[17:05] <Pici> !ot
[17:05] <Pey> I mean, it's a dell keyboard, so it probably has all the drivers preinstalled and crap
[17:05] <plut0nash> haha
[17:05] <plut0nash> i installed q3 on this machine
[17:05] <plut0nash> its good enough for me
[17:05] <plut0nash> :p
[17:06] <plut0nash> only game i ever play
[17:06] <Pey> So anyway, any easy fix for it?
[17:07] <plut0nash> Pey: never heard of dell kb's coming with their own drivers hey
[17:07] <plut0nash> even my G15 used HID
[17:07] <Pey> Dunno, I guessed, because it works fine :S
[17:07] <plut0nash> i think
[17:07] <plut0nash> the MS kb's do have special features
[17:08] <plut0nash> but there are media kb stuffs that certain software uses
[17:08] <Pey> Hmm, no, this doesn't have any silly buttons on it
[17:08] <plut0nash> mmm
[17:08] <plut0nash> should be stock HID then
[17:08] <plut0nash> or regular kb drivers
[17:08] <Pey> Neat
[17:08] <Pey> KB worked fine when it booted
[17:09] <Pey> It just boots, like, never
[17:09] <Pey> When I tell it to boot in recovery mode,
[17:09] <plut0nash> did you do a base install?
[17:09] <Pey> it says something like 'Recovering devices...'
[17:09] <Pey> and fails
[17:09] <Pey> I can't
[17:09] <Pey> It won't boot
[17:09] <plut0nash> arb
[17:09] <plut0nash> kubuntu alternate cd ftw
[17:09] <Pey> Hmm?
[17:09] <plut0nash> what board are you running?
[17:10] <Pey> I have nfi
[17:10] <Pey> 530S standard, I assume
[17:10] <Pey> AKA, whatever crap dell chose
[17:10] <plut0nash> hmmm
[17:10] <plut0nash> odd
[17:10] <Pey> Yeah
[17:10] <plut0nash> i'd say
[17:10] <plut0nash> get teh kubuntu alt cd
[17:10] <plut0nash> do a base install
[17:10] <plut0nash> and update your sources.list manually
[17:10] <plut0nash> and then
[17:10] <plut0nash> install the desktop of your choice
[17:11] <Pey> KDE4 :>
[17:11] <plut0nash> I had to do that because of grub issues
[17:11] <Pey> Hmm
[17:11] <plut0nash> mmm
[17:11] <plut0nash> i prefer gnome
[17:11] <plut0nash> but KDE is cool
[17:11] <plut0nash> :)
[17:11] <Pey> How will that deal with vista's BCD?
[17:11] <plut0nash> EasyBCD could do it for you
[17:11] <Pey> Haha, I've always liked KDE, but KDE4 is... damn, I love that environment
[17:11] <Pey> Whatnowwho?
[17:11] <plut0nash> :)
[17:11] <plut0nash> its a vista multiboot app
[17:11] <plut0nash> should help things along somewhat
[17:11] <Pey> Oh, I see
[17:12] <Pey> When I 'install' through Wubi, the bootloader boot... loads... fine, though?
[17:12] <plut0nash> oh
[17:12] <plut0nash> ok
[17:12] <plut0nash> i never used wubi
[17:12] <plut0nash> :(
[17:12] <Pey> :(
[17:12] <plut0nash> always preferred separating my ubuntu + windows install
[17:12] <plut0nash> :P
[17:12] <plut0nash> i think
[17:12] <plut0nash> i may switch to linux perm thouggh
[17:12] <Pey> I used it because I didn't notice the huge-ass box with a rewritable DVD on my desk <_____<
[17:13] <plut0nash> my brother (noob) said its way faster
[17:13] <plut0nash> :p
[17:13] <Pey> Eh, untill I can play DX10 games in linux, no way
[17:13] <plut0nash> hah
[17:13] <Pey> Haha
[17:13] <plut0nash> well
[17:13] <plut0nash> i got XP for my gaming needs
[17:13] <plut0nash> and
[17:13] <plut0nash> diablo + q3 work 100%
[17:13] <plut0nash> plus quake live is coming
[17:13] <plut0nash> :p
[17:13] <Pey> :D
[17:14] <Pey> Yeah, but I like my gaming, and not everything will work first time, so... yeah, I'll probably always be dual booting
[17:14] <plut0nash> yeah
[17:14] <plut0nash> well
[17:14] <plut0nash> i dunno
[17:14] <plut0nash> 360 is coming for me
[17:14] <plut0nash> :)
[17:14] <Pey> Hehe
[17:14] <plut0nash> so
[17:14] <Pey> :>
[17:14] <plut0nash> that may be my future gaming
[17:14] <Pey> Nice
[17:14] <plut0nash> besides
[17:14] <Pey> I'm more of a PC gamer, though...
[17:14] <plut0nash> i'm digging the pad for FPs controls
[17:14] <plut0nash> odd
[17:15] <plut0nash> yeah
[17:15] <plut0nash> i was
[17:15] <plut0nash> till i learned pad aiming
[17:15] <plut0nash> :P
[17:15] <plut0nash> then i realised
[17:15] <plut0nash> thumbs rock
[17:15] <plut0nash> :P
[17:15] <FoxII> Is there a way I can download a package without installing *and* all dependencies for that package?
[17:15] <Pey> :D
[17:16] <Pey> Anyway, set the alt CD to install, what do I do after I've got it, burnt the disk, and rebooted?
[17:16] <plut0nash> well
[17:16] <plut0nash> i dunno
[17:16] <plut0nash> i'd say
[17:16] <Pey> Awesome
[17:16] <plut0nash> do your base install with the recovery options
[17:16] <plut0nash> thats a good start
[17:16] <plut0nash> and then apt-get your KDE / Gnome
[17:16] <plut0nash> it'll be about
[17:16] <Pey> With what?
[17:17] <plut0nash> 30 mins to install and get things running
[17:17] <plut0nash> with the console :)
[17:17] <Pey> ... <______<
[17:17] <plut0nash> your cd will have the packages
[17:17] <plut0nash> :P
[17:17] <Pey> what command, silly
[17:17] <plut0nash> but
[17:17] <plut0nash> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:17] <plut0nash> :)
[17:17] <plut0nash> and then
[17:17] <Pey> :>
[17:17] <plut0nash> you need to set your sudoers
[17:17] <plut0nash> make a new user
[17:17] <genii> !enter
[17:17] <Pey> Though, I've always had probems with my wireless, dunno if that'll work?
[17:18] <plut0nash> chipset?
[17:18] <Pey> broadcom >_<
[17:19] <plut0nash> mmm
[17:19] <plut0nash> that i can't help with tbh
[17:19] <plut0nash> :<
[17:19] <Pey> :<
[17:19] <plut0nash> but
[17:19] <plut0nash> i suppose google is your friend
[17:19] <plut0nash> :D
[17:19] <Pey> Yeah, I've searched, but to no avail... I've never gotten it working :<
[17:20] <holyguyver_> !mythtv
[17:20] <plut0nash> mmm
[17:20] <plut0nash> i dunno dude :<
[17:20] <pim> !doom
[17:20] <plut0nash> you could always get a nice 108g usb stick
[17:20] <plut0nash> :P
[17:21] <Pey> Hehe
[17:21] <Pey> I know my sister's wireless dongle works with it :>
[17:21] <plut0nash> :D
[17:21] <plut0nash> sounds like a plan
[17:21] <plut0nash> what router you running?
[17:22] <Pey> BT homehub
[17:22] <plut0nash> ahh
[17:22] <Pey> Really rubbishy thing, came with my ISP
[17:22] <plut0nash> netgear dsl router for me
[17:22] <plut0nash> :p
[17:22] <Pey> Haha
[17:22] <plut0nash> not that grand as well
[17:22] <Pey> neat
[17:22] <plut0nash> I want to get my linksys back from my client
[17:22] <Pey> I mean, it does the job, but... ugh, it's configuration is, like, borken
[17:23] <Pey> You tell it to do something, and it does something else >_<
[17:23] <plut0nash> ehehe
[17:23] <plut0nash> sounds like setting the WDS up
[17:23] <plut0nash> with the WRTs
[17:23] <plut0nash> :<
[17:23] <plut0nash> that was painful initially
[17:23] <Pey> ._.
[17:23] <plut0nash> but i got a working solution
[17:23] <plut0nash> amazing
[17:23] <Pey> Haha
[17:23] <plut0nash> 100% signal through concrete floors
[17:23] <plut0nash> i was so happy
[17:23] <Pey> Neat
[17:23] <Pey> :D
[17:24] <plut0nash> :D
[17:24] <Pey> So, CD is at 42%, that is neat
[17:25] <plut0nash> neat
[17:25] <plut0nash> man
[17:25] <plut0nash> the work i had to do to get kubuntu installed on this machine
[17:25] <plut0nash> next project is OSX86
[17:25] <plut0nash> :D
[17:25] <Pey> Haha, I'm having so much damn trouble
[17:25] <Pey> XD
[17:25] <plut0nash> yeah me too
[17:25] <pim> What is the standard command for executing a program via the terminal?
[17:26] <plut0nash> the program name i guess
[17:26] <Pey> 7.10 didn't work either :<
[17:26] <plut0nash> or if its a daemon etc/init.d/damon
[17:26] <plut0nash> :p
[17:26] <plut0nash> heh
[17:26] <plut0nash> base install >
[17:26] <plut0nash> with lilo
[17:26] <plut0nash> damn
[17:26] <plut0nash> it took me SO many tries
[17:26] <Pey> ,-,
[17:26] <Pey> Yeah...
[17:26] <Pey> Thank god for rewritable DVDs, that's all I can say
[17:26] <plut0nash> hah
[17:27] <plut0nash> yeah
[17:27] <plut0nash> best thing
[17:27] <plut0nash> btw
[17:27] <plut0nash> when is mass effect PC coming?
[17:27] <Pey> Hmm, can't remember... haven't been following it much, tbh
[17:27] <pim> How can I completely remove openoffice?
[17:27] <plut0nash> no idea :<
[17:28] <pim> oh well I'd like to reinstall it
[17:28] <pim> apt-get purge openoffice?
[17:28] <plut0nash> i've only use apt-get remove
[17:28] <plut0nash> and then apt-get autoremove
[17:28] <plut0nash> i dunno how effective that actually is
[17:28] <pim> the package doesn exist :p
[17:29] <llutz> it's called "openoffice.org"
[17:29] <Pey> OH, and best IM client for Kubuntu? Virtualising windows just for miranda probably isn't very good <_<
[17:29] <genii> pim: sudo apt-get remove --purge openoffice.org
[17:30] <plut0nash> Pey: i use pidgin
[17:30] <Pey> Gotcha
[17:30] <biagio> qualcuno parla italiano??
[17:30] <llutz> !it | biagio
[17:31] <biagio> come si fa ad andarci?
[17:31] <biagio> grazie
[17:31] <pim> genii it says that openoffice.org isn installed
[17:31] <plut0nash> whats a good app to set up compiz?
[17:32] <genii> pim: Then just do the install as you were wanting then, eg: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[17:32] <pim> genii , but OpenOffice is installed on my system
[17:32] <genii> plut0nash: compizconfig-settings-manager         is package, run it by name ccsm
[17:33] <pim> but Iḿ installing now
[17:34] <plut0nash> thanks
[17:34] <Steve-cal> I fresh installed Kubuntu 8.04, and some things don't seem to be right: I can't run either Adept Manager or Add/Removes Programs from the K menu because neither of them is set up to run as root, according to their menu entries (no kdesu in front). Is this a mistake/bug?
[17:34] <genii> pim: even --purge won't remove files in your home directory, thats likely what you are seeing there
[17:36] <trenton> hello all, is it possible to move a svn local copy to another user?
[17:36] <pim> well Iḿ afraid that the spellcheck still isn't working
[17:36] <pim> does anyone have an idea how to make it work?
[17:36] <Pey> :> it's done
[17:36] <Pey> now, to erase, and burn
[17:37] <genii> pim: What dictionary did you tell it to use?
[17:38] <pim> well I set language to Dutch
[17:39] <pim> so it should work
[17:40] <genii> pim: install package myspell-nl
[17:40] <freddy> como configuro a español
[17:40] <ubuntu_> also das Stresslinux geht auch nur manchmal... freezt auch bei manchen Versuchen
[17:40] <genii> !es | freddy
[17:40] <ubuntu_> i think my CPU ist rubbish xD
[17:41] <pim> ubuntu you tested it?
[17:41] <ubuntu_> yes
[17:41] <pim> and you broke it?
[17:41] <ubuntu_> sometimes it frezzed
[17:41] <ubuntu_> at the start
[17:41] <plut0nash> haha
[17:41] <plut0nash> my title bars just disappeared
[17:41] <ubuntu_> the same as in Windows
[17:41] <pim> genii Thanks, you're the best!
[17:42]  * genii sips his coffee
[17:42] <ubuntu_> i think i test a new CPU tomorrow
[17:42] <ubuntu_> or i bring it to a support center
[17:43] <ubuntu_> so... i am away... i'am going to Disco ^^
[17:43] <ubuntu_> Rock4Life
[17:43] <pim> bye
[17:43] <ubuntu_> cucu
[17:44] <ubuntu_> and thx 4 support
[17:44] <DarkJustice> I was wondering if anyone could point me to very specific instructions on how to set up a web server and nameserver for kubuntu .. such as Nameserver for Dummies or something. I'm brand new to linux. Also is there any program like cPanel for kubuntu that is free? Thanks
[17:44] <pim> no problem ;-)
[17:44] <ubuntu_> cu
[17:45] <prekitt> hi, am running kde 4 but when I ran some updated, my taskbar is gone, how do I get it back?
[17:47] <genii> DarkJustice: They will likely be better able to assist with that in #ubuntu-server
[17:47] <michael_> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me troubleshoot a sound problem I am having. Lastnight I installed kubuntu 8.04, clicked the sound test button and i heard it playback, but this morning no sound! :(
[17:47] <DarkJustice> ahh thank you genii
[17:47] <genii> DarkJustice: np
[17:47] <pim> michael_ didn you pull out a plug or something?
[17:47] <michael_> laptop, no plugs :)
[17:48] <pim> Sorry, I had to ask :P
[17:48] <michael_> pim: no prob :) frustrating when things just change!
[17:49] <ngirard> Hi all, i'm afraid my situation is ~ the same as michael_ ; Kubuntu 8.04 and no sound here. pulseaudio is able to start, I can play some music with mplayer or anything, and I get no error message, but my soundcard remains silent...
[17:49] <michael_> yeah, amarok seems to play, but no sound
[17:49] <ngirard> ngirard: i'd appreciate some thoughts, too ;-)
[17:50] <jabba> ack, now i have two screensavers fighting
[17:51] <Steve-cal> I fresh installed Kubuntu 8.04, and some things don't seem to be right: I can't run either Adept Manager or Add/Removes Programs from the K menu because neither of them is set up to run as root, according to their menu entries (no kdesu in front). Is this a mistake/bug?
[17:54] <jabba> Steve-cal: is this a new problem or the same problem?
[17:54] <genii> Steve-cal: Possibly this one if you had something running as sudo in terminal/konsole https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/72545
[17:55] <genii> or the second one mentioned
[17:56] <Steve-cal> jabba, genii: Same problem, I just don't understand why under a *fresh install* the Adept and Add/Remove programs won't even load from the menu since they aren't run as root. Did I forget to set something in the installation or something?
[17:57] <genii> Steve-cal: Perhaps investigate the bug 50971, it seems most likely to be the problem
[17:58] <Steve-cal> genii: But that's not really the problem--if I open the Menu Editor, it shows that Adept Manager is run simply with the command "adept_manager" and not "kdesu adept_manager"--do you see what I mean? It's not even set up correctly to begin with, so of course it doesn't work.
[18:00] <pim> what plugin is required to make the myspace music work in konqueror?
[18:02] <mani213> when i start my computer my grub screen gives me like 2 options of which kubuntu i wana run how do i remove one?
[18:02] <mani213> it says 2.6.24-16 generic and 2.6.22-14 generic
[18:02] <mani213> i wana remove 2.6.22-14 generic
[18:03] <Steve-cal> mani213: You can edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst--it's all in there.
[18:03] <mani213> how do i do that?
[18:03] <mani213> type that in the start upo screen?
[18:03] <Steve-cal> mani213: Are you logged into Kubuntu right now?
[18:03] <mani213> yep
[18:03] <michael_> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me troubleshoot a sound problem I am having. Lastnight I installed kubuntu 8.04, clicked the sound test button and i heard it playback, but this morning no sound! :(
[18:04] <mani213> do i go consol?
[18:04] <mani213>  konsol
[18:04] <Steve-cal> mani213: Yes, open a Konsole first.
[18:04] <mani213> okay now
[18:05] <mani213> type in  /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[18:05] <mani213> sudo  /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[18:05] <Steve-cal> mani213: Then type "sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.5-23-08"
[18:06] <Steve-cal> mani213: That makes a backup of your menu.lst..
[18:06] <Steve-cal> mani213: Did that work so far?
[18:06] <mani213> i typed it in
[18:06] <mani213> sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.5-23-08
[18:06] <mani213> mani213@mani213-desktop:~$
[18:06] <mani213> mani213@mani213-desktop:~$
[18:06] <mani213> thats all it says
[18:07] <Steve-cal> mani213: OK, that's good... hang on...
[18:07] <mani213> okay
[18:07] <Steve-cal> mani213: type "sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[18:08] <epahl_> does anyone here use openvpn?
[18:08] <mani213> sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:08] <Steve-cal> mani213: Did it pull up the file?
[18:08] <mani213> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mani213" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[18:08] <mani213> Error: "/tmp/kde-mani213" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[18:08] <mani213> Error: "/tmp/ksocket-mani213" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[18:08] <mani213> thats what i get
[18:08] <mani213> and a new window opens
[18:08] <mani213> called menu.list kate
[18:09] <Steve-cal> mani213: you mean menu.lst? Does it show the contents or is it blank?
[18:09] <mani213> it shows the content
[18:09] <mani213> so would i delet the title root info for the ones i dont need?
[18:10] <Steve-cal> mani213: No, just comment them out--put a # in front of them.
[18:10] <mani213> title		Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
[18:10] <mani213> root		(hd0,5)
[18:10] <mani213> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=e0007257-36e0-476c-95dd-58c12be80145 ro quiet splash
[18:10] <mani213> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[18:10] <mani213> quiet
[18:10] <mani213> how would i do that one
[18:10] <mani213> just put # sign?
[18:11] <Steve-cal> mani213: Yes, but a # sign in front of all of those lines.
[18:11] <mani213> oh okay
[18:11] <pim> If you insert a # in fromnt of a line you comment it out
[18:11] <jdavies> !paste | mani213
[18:11] <mani213> what would happen if i delet the line wouldnt it work out to be the same?
[18:12] <pim> probably, but then you wouldn be able to reset the option
[18:12] <pim> so it's better to comment it out
[18:12] <Steve-cal> mani213: Yes, but it's safer just to comment them out so you can easily add it later if you need to.
[18:12] <Steve-cal> pim: Thanks. ;)
[18:13] <Steve-cal> mani213: Did you do that?
[18:13] <mani213> ye
[18:13] <mani213> do i just close the menu list
[18:13] <mani213> ?
[18:13] <mani213> or do i save then
[18:13] <mani213> exit?
[18:13]  * jabba pets compiz
[18:13] <Steve-cal> mani213: Be sure to save it and then exit.
[18:14] <mani213> okay
[18:14] <mani213> i guess let me try to restart it now
[18:14] <mani213> ill brb thanks for the help
[18:14] <Steve-cal> mani213: You're good to go, just reboot and you won't see it there anymore.
[18:14] <mani213> thanks alot
[18:14] <Steve-cal> mani213: No problem. :)
[18:18] <pim> What's the difference between kate and gedit?
[18:18] <pim> kate for KDE and gedit for Gnome?
[18:18] <michael_> kate is really good i love it
[18:19] <pim> What's better about it over gedit?
[18:22] <michael_> pim: just personal preference, im sure they have a lot of the same features
[18:23] <pim> what command lists all processes running?
[18:24] <emilsedgh> pstree pim
[18:24] <pim> and kill kils a proces?
[18:24] <emilsedgh> pim: kill pid or killall processname
[18:25] <pim> thanks!
[18:28] <database> OK, I have a process that's running in the background that I need to kill. How would I do this?
[18:29] <rickest> database: killall <name_of_app>, or if you already know the pid, kill <pid>
[18:29] <database> Ah, thank you.
[18:29] <rickest> there's also pkill <name_of_app> but that's not as portable
[18:29] <database> Hmm...
[18:29] <database> How do you get a list of processes?
[18:30] <pim> pstree
[18:31] <database> Thanks.
[18:32] <Dinithion> God afternoon. I have a laptop with kubuntu 7.10 installed. The wireless connection used to work, until I had to mess it up with manual settings in knetworkmanager. No I doesn't work any more. No wireless networks show up. I thought it might be a userproblem, but its not. It affected all users. Do anyone have any suggestons?
[18:34] <tekteen> Dinithion: I can help with that :-)
[18:34] <pim> Dinithion maybe you should try #networking
[18:34] <pim> oh well tekteen can do it apparantly :)
[18:35] <tekteen> Dinithion: do you know how to open a text editer with root?
[18:35] <Dinithion> That would be great. I've been scratching my head for some days now :P
[18:35] <Dinithion> tekteen Oh yes. Im a slacker, my girlfriend use kubuntu ;P
[18:35] <tekteen> ok
[18:36] <tekteen> I need to know :-)
[18:36] <tekteen> anyway, please pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[18:37] <tekteen> Dinithion: do you know what pastebin is? (have to ask)
[18:38] <Dinithion> tekteen Yeah. Give me to more seconds :)
[18:38] <tekteen> ok
[18:38] <Dinithion> http://pastebin.com/d1b97439
[18:39] <Dinithion> there we go. Whats comented out is what it was yesterday, and the uncomented lines are the ones I tried adding to get it working
[18:39] <derdui_> Hi, i have a problem with installing a tar.gz archive. ists unpacked correctly, but neither with kpackage, nor in the terminal, i can install it.... in the terminal, the command ./configure doesnt work,
[18:40] <tekteen> Dinithion: is eth1 the wifi?
[18:40] <derdui_> thats from my terminal http://www.pastebin.org/38016
[18:41] <Dinithion> tekteen Yes, it is
[18:41] <tekteen> ok
[18:41] <tekteen> take out the last line
[18:41] <tekteen> "iface eth1 inet dhcp" is the problem
[18:42] <jimmy51vinsky> is dd what is used to make an initramdisk from a root tree?
[18:42] <Dinithion> Ok, now all I have to do is restart knetworkmanager?
[18:42] <Dinithion> Eureka! Thanks a lot, mate :D
[18:42] <tekteen> Dinithion: I am going to see if I can make up a factoid for this and submit it for the bot :-). It seems like a common mistake.
[18:42] <lgus> i have a problem installing kubuntu kde4.. when its trying to start the X, my monitor says that the resolution is invalid and after that the screen goes blank.. im using nvidia 6600gt
[18:43] <tekteen> Dinithion: np
[18:44] <Dinithion> tekteen All the time I've wasted for one stupid line :P
[18:44] <tekteen> yep
[18:44] <tekteen> happens to me all the time
[18:44] <Dinithion> I had the problme for a while ago aswell, but that time I got it working by googling. This time I couldn't find back to that page.
[18:45] <tekteen> lol
[18:45] <tekteen> there should be an easy way to fix it
[18:45] <tekteen> should I submit it as a bug?
[18:45] <Dinithion> Perhaps. I don't know if the bug stil exists in 8.04 thoe.
[18:46] <tekteen> Dinithion: I am sure it does :-(
[18:46] <tekteen> I will test it then submit a report
[18:47] <Dinithion> Yes, I think you should do that. I searched around on ubuntus pages, but I couldn't find nothing.
[18:47] <michael_> aplay -l shows my sound card is installed, alsamixer shows volume is 100% and not muted, i cant hear sound though, does anyone know what could be wrong?
[18:47] <ngirard> Hi all, i'm on Kubuntu 8.04 and cannot get pulseaudio to produce any sound. oss works though, but not pulseaudio.
[18:47] <ngirard>  pulseaudio is able to start, I can play some music with mplayer or anything, and I get no error message, but my soundcard remains silent...
[18:48] <tekteen> ngirard:  if you run the command pulseaudio is there an error?
[18:48] <lgus> do you know if there is known problems with kubuntu kde4 + nvidia ?
[18:49] <ngirard> tekteen: seems not. I can pastebin the output if you want
[18:49] <tekteen> no thanks
[18:49] <yao_ziyuan> i suggest that ubuntu set firefox's default sans, serif and mono fonts as bitstream vera ones
[18:49] <tekteen> I can not fix my own pulseaudio which gives a tun of errors
[18:50] <Dinithion> tekteen Well, thanks again. Now I can spin of to Indiana Jones and actually concentrate on the movie :)
[18:50] <ngirard> tekteen: perhaps you would know this: is this mandatory to start pulseaudio by hand ? What is the mandate way of having pulseaudio started with a kde4 session ?
[18:50] <tekteen> Dinithion: lol
[18:51] <tekteen> ngirard: it should start on boot
[18:51] <tekteen> there is an init script
[18:52] <tekteen> or if it is like kde3 you can put a script to run it in the background in .kde4/Autostart
[18:52] <ngirard> tekteen: well, mine didn't start on boot, but i'll add the init script to the active ones, thanks for your feedback
[18:53] <tekteen> np
[18:54] <ngirard> tekteen: Well, where would you advice me to ask about my problem ? in pulseaudio mailing-lists ? in ubuntu forums ?
[18:55] <tekteen> ngirard: you can also go to #pulseaudio
[18:55] <tekteen> both of the others also work
[18:55] <ngirard> tekteen: oh, thanks again, i hadn't thought about this possibility. I'm gonna ask there right now
[18:55] <leftbas> hey everyone
[18:56] <tekteen> hi
[18:56] <tekteen> !hi  |﻿leftbas
[18:56] <leftbas> thanks tekteen
[18:57] <leftbas> oops
[18:57] <leftbas> closed the wrong tab
[18:57] <tekteen> lol
[19:01] <bibek> hi i want to mirror the ubuntu main, universe and restricted
[19:02] <bibek> anyone know where to get the sizes of the direcotires?
[19:02] <leftbas> sorry, i don't
[19:03] <tekteen> bibek: I am looking for it
[19:04] <tekteen> bibek: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/mirror
[19:05] <bibek> tekteen: thanks, looking into it
[19:06] <tekteen> 210 gigabytes
[19:09] <bibek> tekteen: yeah,
[19:09] <leftbas> konversation krashed on me
[19:09] <bibek> instead im thinking of a release mirror
[19:09] <leftbas> ;)
[19:09] <bibek> around 40GB
[19:11] <tekteen> bibek: I am thinking of making a mirror for a non-profit that creates ubuntu machines
[19:11] <tekteen> and I mean the big one
[19:12] <bibek> tekteen: thats nice
[19:12] <bibek> tekteen: hows internet speed at ur place?
[19:14] <tekteen> bibek: fast down (2MB/s). slow up 250KB/s
[19:14] <tekteen> bibek: I would host it for the lan
[19:15] <bibek> down is pretty nice :)
[19:15] <michael_> does anyone know why headphones work but speakers dont?
[19:15] <tekteen> bibek: yeah
[19:15] <leftbas> check the mixer
[19:15] <leftbas> the speaker channel might be muted or the volume set very low
[19:26] <pim> How could I remove firefox from my system
[19:28] <PolitikerNEU> sudo apt-get purge firefox
[19:28] <pim> I thought that as well
[19:28] <PolitikerNEU> but?
[19:29] <pim> it's still on my system
[19:29] <pim> or should I reinstall?
[19:29] <PolitikerNEU> maybe you have still got firefox2 on your system: sudo apt-get remove firefox2
[19:29] <pim> I mean
[19:29] <michael_> could someone tell me the channel to get help with k3b
[19:29] <pim> reboot
[19:29] <pim> no I've accidentally downloaded the beta
[19:29] <PolitikerNEU> ah
[19:30] <pim> I used: apt-get install firefox
[19:30] <pim> and I got the beta
[19:30] <nosrednaekim> firefox-2 is the package name BTW
[19:30] <jabba> yarr
[19:30] <pim> well then I'll have to install that
[19:31] <pim> how did yo ufind out?
[19:31] <kalib> is anyone here using kubuntu 8.04 with kde4?
[19:31] <greeg> hi
[19:31] <jabba> kalib: yes, but there is a kubuntu-kde4 channel
[19:31] <jabba> kalib: what's the question?
[19:31] <greeg> prior to installing gusty firefox played youtube quite smoothly.  what am i missing /
[19:31] <jabba> greeg: flash?
[19:32] <kalib> not exactly question.. just wanna discuss about it... bugs, etc... but i guess this is not the better place to do it... like u said... we hav a specific channel...
[19:32] <kalib> i didn't know about it...sorry ;]
[19:32] <jabba> kalib: bugs, yes.
[19:32] <greeg> which package ?
[19:32] <jabba> kalib: i use it all day on three machines, and i don't have any real issues with it, but then i can usually fix stuff if it gets broke.
[19:32] <jabba> kalib: is there anything in specific you're looking for?
[19:33] <michael_> could someone tell me the channel to get help with k3b
[19:33] <kalib> jabba, i did install it today... i was using.. but i didn't like... it has some problems...
[19:33] <jabba> kalib: the biggest problem i had with it was getting glx set up and compiz, but that's hardly fatal.
[19:33] <kalib> for example...
[19:33] <bibek> does rsync show the directory size??
[19:33] <somdev> hi
[19:34] <kalib> in my kde 3.5... i'm using gkrellm...with a transparent theme...
[19:34] <kalib> in kde 4 it's not working... the transparent isn't transparent...
[19:35] <nosrednaekim> whats gkrellm?
[19:35] <kalib> and i do like to use yakuake, as my default terminal... i do use it transparent to in my kde 3.5... but in kde4, the transparence is not working on it too
[19:35] <genii> nosrednaekim: gnome app
[19:35] <kalib> nosrednaekim, app with some issues... like system monitor, clock, mail..etc..
[19:36] <nosrednaekim> kalib: yeah..... I've noticed that too....
[19:36] <jabba> kalib: i use yakuake just fine on mine.
[19:36] <jabba> kalib: is compiz set up correctly?
[19:36] <jabba> glx?
[19:36] <nosrednaekim> except with PSI
[19:37] <kalib> jabba, well... in my kde3.5 is working fine... in kde4 was supposed to be the same, right!?
[19:37] <kalib> i'm not using compiz...i don't like the effects..
[19:37] <kalib> in my kde3.5 it's disabled
[19:37] <jabba> kalib: i started with hardy/kde3 and upgraded to kde4 with apt-get install kde4
[19:37] <kalib> i did the same... aptitude install kde4
[19:37] <nosrednaekim> kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[19:37] <jabba> kalib: well, i use compiz and the closed nvidia drivers
[19:38] <kalib> i got it...but...
[19:38] <kalib> if it's working on kde 3.5, it was supposed to work on kde4, right!?
[19:38] <kalib> cause the system is the same..
[19:38] <jabba> kalib: never a safe assumption :)
[19:38] <kalib> at this momment i'm using 3.5, cause i had these kind of problems with kde4
[19:39] <genii> kalib: They are not anywhere near the same now
[19:39] <greeg> nope didnt werk.  i installed libflash-mozplugin and swfdec-mozilla  and youtube still plays choppy as hell
[19:39] <greeg> im gonna try mozilla-plugin-gnash
[19:41] <kalib> wait a minute... i'll restart my session... to kde4...
[19:44] <pim> A question: does wine work with steam?
[19:44] <greeg> nope that still didnt werk
[19:44] <greeg> how do i make firefox werk!?!?!
[19:45] <pim> you make firefox work:
[19:45] <greeg> youtube is still choppy
[19:45] <pim> hm Iĺl try my version
[19:46] <somdev> How can I tranfer files with kopete jabber account ?
[19:46] <genii> pim: Steam works under wine, yes
[19:46] <yao_ziyuan> it seems kubuntu by default does not provide a k menu item for kcontrol, isn't it?
[19:46] <genii> greeg: If it's the same file you keep trying to play there perhaps it's the codec they used to encode it
[19:47] <jabba> yao_ziyuan: right click on the panel and add it
[19:49] <yao_ziyuan> there was a visual effect: when i click the K menu or the System Menu,
[19:49] <yao_ziyuan> the K icon or the System icon would enlarge and fade out
[19:49] <yao_ziyuan> now i lost this effect
[19:49] <yao_ziyuan> how do i get it back?
[19:50] <greeg> someone just tell me the goddamn package to install to have youtube play NOT choppy.
[19:50] <greeg> sheesh
[19:51] <greeg> libflash-mozplugin  swfdec-mozilla  mozilla-plugin-gnash  down work and is all thats listed under apt-cache search flash | grep moz
[19:54] <greeg> libflash-mozplugin  swfdec-mozilla  mozilla-plugin-gnash  down work and is all thats listed under apt-cache search flash | grep moz
[19:59] <greeg> how do i have firefox not play so choppy?libflash-mozplugin  swfdec-mozilla  mozilla-plugin-gnash  down work and is all thats listed under apt-cache search flash | grep moz
[20:00] <pim> maybe you should try reinstalling firefox alltogether
[20:01] <santhosh> Anybody aware of how to get show desktop icon in kubuntu hardy....for somes it does seem to appear
[20:07] <roberto> !es
[20:07] <roberto> para portugues?
[20:07] <roberto> !br
[20:08] <Anarki> hello anyone know a good c/c++ IDE ?
[20:08] <frojnd> Hey guys can I move file withing find command ? Like I would like to find .avi files in /home/me/videos/ with "*.avi" extension and move them at the same time to /home/1/ ?
[20:09] <nosrednaekim> frojnd: there is probably some way to pipe it into mv...
[20:10] <nosrednaekim> Anarki: kdevelop
[20:10] <frojnd> nosrednaekim: yes I'm looking for this somekind of pape
[20:11] <ThreeFinity> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `arch/x86/kernel/asm-offsets.c', needed by `arch/x86/kernel/asm-offsets.s'.  Stop.
[20:11] <ThreeFinity> make: *** [prepare0] Error 2
[20:11] <ThreeFinity> anybody know how to fix that>?
[20:13] <genii> ThreeFinity: First find out if what you are attempting to compile already comes in a binary package
[20:14] <ThreeFinity> genii: it's my kernel lol
[20:14] <ThreeFinity> trying to compile it
[20:15] <genii> ThreeFinity: Are you following the tutorial at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/kernel-baking.html         ?
[20:15] <genii> (for 6.10 but still applicable)
[20:16] <ThreeFinity> no but I will now
[20:16] <austin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=804121
[20:16] <austin> Could someone read that please and try to help? :(
[20:17] <jabba> ThreeFinity: you're on 64-bit right?
[20:19] <ThreeFinity> I am, but I'm using 32bit for more supported software
[20:20] <ThreeFinity> was told there's not much of anything that works on a 64bit distro lol
[20:21] <genii> austin: Did you try as recommended and update th ddccontrol-db ?
[20:21] <austin> Yeah, someone told me how but it didn't do anything so I'm not sure if it was right.. How exactly do I go along doing htat?
[20:21] <jabba> ThreeFinity: yeah, there's a bug that makes compiling modules on 64-bit a pain in the ass
[20:22] <jabba> the first problem i had with it was building the nvidia driver.
[20:22] <adz21c> really? see i have no problems
[20:22] <jabba> the problem is the `arch` command doesn't return what they expect.
[20:22] <genii> austin: from commandline should be something like:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install --reinstall ddccontrol-db
[20:22] <jabba> adz21c: are you compiling your own kernel modulse?
[20:22] <adz21c> have done before, not recently ... since hardy anyway
[20:22] <genii> austin: So that if it's alreadu installed (likely) just the newest one will be installed
[20:22] <adz21c> not *
[20:23] <jabba> adz21c: i didn't have a problem with edgy/gutsy/feisty. hardy doesn't like amd64
[20:23] <jabba> well. the binary packages work anyways.
[20:23] <jabba> compiling is a pita.
[20:23] <austin> Still gives the same error.  :(
[20:23] <jabba> and only for kernel modules.
[20:25] <adz21c> ok, well was gonna say its all been fine for me but i not found a need to do kernel modules yet so i guess i have to tackle that when it comes
[20:26] <genii> austin: PErhaps find the correct settings for your monitor and then use one of the settings files in /usr/share/ddccontrol-db/monitor/
[20:27] <austin> What would I type in to bring that up? I'm new to Linux so.. I'm really stupid with that type of stuff.
[20:29] <genii> austin: Search google for the make and model of your monitor and try to discover it's settings. Once settings are known there may be a model already available to use in the /usr/share/ddccontrol-db/monitor/ database which uses compatible settings
[20:31] <Pey_in_K> Ah
[20:31] <Pey_in_K> Nifty
[20:32] <Pey_in_K> OK, so assing nousb has fixed all bootup problems, while, for some reason, leaving me with full USB powers
[20:32] <shane2peru> !kde4
[20:32] <Pey_in_K> Currently conencted Via a crappy little wifi dongle, but it got my broadcom drivers :>
[20:32] <Pey_in_K> I'm-a install now :>
[20:36] <genii> austin: Man page of ddccontrol indicates it has a probe feature. Try running:   ddccontrol -p  (probe)     or ddccontrol -pc (probe and report capabilities)
[20:40] <kalib> jabba, hey...it' s me again..
[20:40] <kalib> now i' m using kde4... but i have some problems, like i told u..
[20:41] <kalib> for example...right now i' m using amsn... how can i put it on the systray? on kde 3.5 was working welll... but in kde4 is not working
[20:58] <lichte> how do I keep certain daemons from starting up ??
[20:58] <lichte> the desktop ones, not the bootup ones
[20:58] <lichte> this crappy session setting doesn't list any
[20:58] <dwidmann> lichte: what sort of daemons are you referring to exactly (examples would be nice)
[20:59] <lichte> scim
[20:59] <lichte> artsd
[20:59] <lichte> knetworkmanager
[20:59] <lichte> adept_notifier
[20:59] <dwidmann> I'm not sure about artsd, but the others should be easier to manage.
[20:59] <dwidmann> lichte, one second while I grab a tidbit
[20:59] <ubuntu_> ...
[21:00] <lichte> where is the file that starts this junk up?
[21:00] <dwidmann> system settings -> advanced -> session manager, switch it to saved, kill anything you don't want and save the session @lichte
[21:00] <Pey_i> Err, this is going to sound like a silly question, but... how the heck do I install Kubuntu-KDE4 from the liveCD?
[21:00] <lichte> ok
[21:01] <lichte> I don't see any way to save the session, I guess I have to log out to save
[21:01] <dwidmann> lichte: it's in the k-menu
[21:02] <lichte> save session?
[21:02] <lichte> I don't have that
[21:03] <lichte> there has to be a file somewhere that kde is reading to boot up this junk
[21:03] <Pey_i> Hi
[21:03] <flotishtu> how to auto run a command on system boot after kde starts ?
[21:03] <Pey_i> Oh fine, yeah, I'll stop being a lazy bum and reboot
[21:04] <Pey_i> brb
[21:04] <Odd-rationale> !autostart | flotishtu
[21:05] <lichte> I don't have an Autostart in .kde, so that's not it
[21:06] <amoweb_> hello, i can't install monkey studio ( from sources)
[21:06] <mountain-linux> ello out there. After install of 7.10 did the update, now my tty1 - tty6 do not work. How can i fix this?
[21:06] <lichte> scim keeps starting up after I kill it!
[21:07] <flotishtu> Odd-rationale thx
[21:08] <mountain-linux> just tty7 works.
[21:09] <jill> my amarok is withot mp3 support, how can i get it if my konqueror is not working?
[21:10] <jill> what is the system? i dont know?...
[21:10] <genii> jill: Perhaps use firefox, it should be installed by default
[21:11] <jill> no i use kebentu 7 10
[21:11] <jill> i have not fireanimals)
[21:12] <genii> jill: It is installed normally. Try:  alt-f2                  then type in: firefox                    and then hit Run button
[21:13] <jill> no terminal says that i dont have it, i have only kde software
[21:13] <rodrigofireworks> Hi... somebody know how can I go in a channel of portuguese help?
[21:13] <jdavies> !pt | rodrigofireworks
[21:14] <leftbas> that's a really cool feature
[21:14] <genii> jill: Are you in a terminal now?
[21:15] <jill> yea
[21:15] <jill> i have one openned
[21:16] <jill> i have libmpeg, but amarok needs more i think
[21:16] <genii> jill: You can install it then by:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox                   Yes, amarok needs some things from medibuntu for the mp3 support and other codecs. Easier to do it from a web browser
[21:17] <genii> !mp3
[21:17] <rodrigofireworks> hey... How can I register my nickname?
[21:17] <genii> The bot link above is for how to add the medibuntu stuff, etc
[21:17] <genii> !register | rodrigofireworks
[21:17] <ankur> hi
[21:18] <genii> jill: Although there may be some other issue if Konqueror seems not to be working properly
[21:18] <ankur> can any one plz tell me how to mount Win95 Ext'd partition?
[21:19] <jill> i am connecting on dialup with kppp
[21:19] <userkubuntu> oi
[21:19] <leftbas> ankur: have you tried yet?
[21:19] <userkubuntu> I am connecting with vivozap
[21:19] <jill> but if i enter a adress in konqueror it says to me that was error on download
[21:20] <leftbas> ankur: if so, how did you type the command?
[21:20] <userkubuntu> the konqueror don't make with the kubuntu 7.10
[21:21] <genii> jill: Ah. And I imagine you have a network adapter. Sometimes the ppp configuration file needs to be directed to make the modem the default gateway instead of the network adapter wheile it is being used
[21:21] <rodrigofireworks> please... who can help me with a doubt? I can't change my screen for 1280x1024 pixels... it just agree 1024x768. How do I do?
[21:21] <jill> how, tell me please
[21:22] <jill> etc/x11/
[21:22] <jill> there is one file with configuration
[21:22] <jill> open it and change
[21:22] <leftbas> or you can try system settings
[21:23] <genii> jill: The ppp configuration file is not to be found in /etc/X11     One minute while I look it up
[21:23] <theunixgeek> is there a way to "upgrade" to kde 4, removing kde 3?
[21:23] <leftbas> genii: i think she was answering rodrigofireworks
[21:23] <jill> genii? no i say it on display question
[21:24] <jill> leftbas yea
[21:24] <userkubuntu> rodrigofireworks, this file is xorg.conf,
[21:24] <rodrigofireworks> xorg.conf?
[21:24] <jill> yea
[21:24] <rodrigofireworks> and where is it?
[21:24] <userkubuntu> SubSection "Display"
[21:24] <userkubuntu> 		Modes		"1280x800"
[21:24] <leftbas> theunixgeek: afaik, they're meant to live there together. some of us still like 3.5.9 ;)
[21:24] <jill> etc/x11
[21:24] <rodrigofireworks> do I type it in "Run command"?
[21:25] <leftbas> rodrigofireworks: open a shell by entering "konsole" in the run command box
[21:25] <leftbas> rodrigofireworks: then change directories to /etc/X11. that's where you'll find the .conf file
[21:26] <userkubuntu> rodrigo, you can use the kate, kwrite or other to open the xorg.conf
[21:26] <rodrigofireworks> I'm sorry but, I can see nothing with "konsole" name
[21:26] <leftbas> but you have to have root or sudo privilege to save the changes
[21:26] <genii> leftbas , jill Yes I realized afterwards it was the resolution settings, etc.
[21:27] <leftbas> genii: ;)
[21:27] <theunixgeek> leftbas: thanks for the info
[21:27] <jill> and what can i do with my browser, who knows?
[21:27] <leftbas> rodrigofireworks: you can also click the K meny, then System, then Konsole
[21:27] <rodrigofireworks> ok... I already openned the file
[21:28] <rodrigofireworks> in Kate
[21:28] <rodrigofireworks> now... what do I do to change?
[21:28] <userkubuntu> do $ sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:28] <leftbas> yw unixgeek
[21:29] <rodrigofireworks> do I need change the option where is typed 1024x768 and to write 1280x1024?
[21:30] <leftbas> rodrigofireworks: so long as your display and card will support that resolution, then yes
[21:30] <userkubuntu> yes
[21:31] <userkubuntu> but you can to have the drivers of the display card
[21:31] <jill> what for amarok without mp3 support?)))
[21:31] <genii> jill: You need to find your current dialup configuration file. Normally it's somewhere like /etc/ppp/options             and edit it with admin rights. Add to the end 2 lines:  noipdefault   and:defaultroute        after to save. This makes the modem and not ethernet adapter the first place any application wanting the internet will look
[21:31] <german_> HI
[21:31] <rodrigofireworks> ok but it doesn't save my changes... it's "talking" that I have not access this
[21:31] <leftbas> hi german_
[21:31] <german_> ESPAÑOL???
[21:31] <leftbas> rodrigofireworks: that's because you have to follow userkubuntu's advice and run it like this:
[21:31] <german_> NECESITO AYUDAAAA
[21:31] <leftbas> sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:32] <leftbas> !sp | german_
[21:32] <dthacker> !es | german_
[21:32] <leftbas> merde
[21:32] <jdavies> !kdesudo | leftbas
[21:32] <userkubuntu> you can open with sudo in the konsole $ sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:32] <german_> SOY NUEVO COMO LE HAGO
[21:32] <leftbas> vaya al canal en espanol, german
[21:33] <leftbas> alli hablan espanol mejor que aca
[21:33] <rodrigofireworks> where I find the $ sudo kate?
[21:33] <userkubuntu> someone speak portuguese brazilian?
[21:33] <genii> userkubuntu: Please, do not recommend to users to run graphical applications with sudo, it can mess up a box very badly. Always kdesu
[21:33] <jdavies> !kdesudo > rodrigofireworks
[21:33] <jill> hehe, everystring is on #ted
[21:33] <jdavies> rodrigofireworks: type: "kdesudo kate" in the terminal
[21:34] <genii> jdavies: Thanks
[21:34] <leftbas> rodrigofireworks: I can't seem to do private messages
[21:34] <jdavies> !register | leftbas
[21:34] <userkubuntu> ok genii...
[21:34] <rodrigofireworks> I'm sorry leftbas
[21:34] <leftbas> i've already registered, but it still doesn't work
[21:34] <jdavies> genii: anytime
[21:34] <leftbas> i'm looking up how to fix it
[21:34] <leftbas> rodrigofireworks: no problem
[21:36] <leftbas> apparently i can't remember my password
[21:36] <leftbas> how do i change it? :(
[21:37] <leftbas> !password
[21:39] <leftbas> that's not the help i need...i just wanna reset my password on freenode...anyone know how?
[21:39] <leftbas> welcome nico
[21:44] <jill> browser not works)
[21:44] <jill> is works only local
[21:46] <jill> LYNX is a fucking good stuff when all others are dead
[21:47] <genii> jill: Yes, the browser only will work locally because as I remarked, the ethernet adapter automatically is default place anything looks first that wants to use internet. To over ride this, the instructions I gave earlier will fix it
[21:49] <jill> okay i fix but maybe i need to reboot?
[21:49] <genii> jill: No, just to disconnect the ppp (dialup) and it reconnect
[21:49] <jill> get a hell this konqueror because i have Elinks now
[21:49] <jill> in fucking text
[21:49] <jill> that is all i need
[21:49] <jill> )0
[21:49] <genii> Although it may be using cached ppp configuration if not logout/logon again
[21:50] <genii> Please, the bad language!
[21:50] <jill> i know but i am russian)) my english is bad always)
[21:50] <jill> maybe linux nt for girls
[21:50] <jill> i dont know
[21:50] <leftbas> i can be ;)
[21:52] <jill> tell me again what i have to download for amarok?
[21:52] <leftbas> sudo apt-get install amarok
[21:53] <a514> Hi i install 8.04 Ubuntu, how do i install Kubuntu cdrom packages offline with synaptic? Thanks.
[21:54] <leftbas> it should work automatically, as long as there's a valid package on the cd
[21:54] <jill> okay i install firefox
[21:54] <jill> it is nice i think
[21:54] <jill> anyway
[21:55] <leftbas> it's a popular browser, that's for sure
[21:55] <a514> Ok i see in synaptic there is a kubuntu-desktop package, i want to install it with the kubuntu cdrom.
[21:55] <Walzmyn> You can give opera a whirl too, if your testing browsers out
[21:56] <leftbas> a514: just mount the cd, and i think you have to click update
[21:56] <Walzmyn> How do you make an app start up when a session is started?
[21:56] <leftbas> but the option to install from cd is apparently always on with synaptic
[21:57] <a514> Thanks i see in synaptic Third Party Cdrom listed Kubuntu. I unclicked all the internet downloading
[21:58] <leftbas> that should force it to read the cd
[21:58] <leftbas> brb
[22:01] <a514> ok now i reloaded synaptic & the kubuntu-desktop package is not listed? it's like only avaiable online?
[22:02] <jill> can i use labmad0 insterd of any other mp3 codecs
[22:02] <jill> ?
[22:05] <Walzmyn> !mp3 | jill
[22:10] <jill> thanks i am finding libxine1-ffmpeg now
[22:11] <userkubuntu> how i meet the xine-ui?
[22:12] <kmorrissey_> hi all, I am trying to get the windows/dialogs etc to resize/redraw so they fit on a low res screen i.e eeepc 800x640 anyone no how to do this
[22:12] <Walzmyn> userkubuntu, I'm not sure what you're asking
[22:13] <userkubuntu> i can install the xine, no the kaffeine, my english no is good, i am brazilian
[22:15] <Walzmyn> userkubuntu, apt-get will not install kaffeine?
[22:17] <kmorrissey_> the stock os eeexandros has a kde windows manager that displays correctly (i dont mean easy mode) is it possible to change/configure pclos to do the same
[22:18] <Walzmyn> kmorrissey_, just so you're not being ignored - i've no idea
[22:20] <kmorrissey_> thanks, walzymn.  Its a shame coz I dont like xandros and the only other way I can do is with windows xp :( although I did get xp down to 315mb install including access 2007 and booting in 13 secs! but I dont want windows
[22:22] <Walzmyn> kmorrissey_, i'm sure it can be done, it's just not something i've fooled with
[22:23] <psyco> hey
[22:24] <userkubuntu> I already decided, removed kaffeine and installed xine >> walzmyn
[22:24] <psyco> anyone know a program that records your audio output on your computer?
[22:24] <dmq> anybody noticed issues with x crashing since recent upgrades?
[22:25] <dmq> anytime im afk for more than a short while i end up with a crashed x windows.
[22:26] <rickest> dmq: probably one of your screensavers, possibly an openGL competing with Compiz?
[22:27] <userkubuntu> I am trying to place firefox 3.0b4 in Portuguese, but I am not obtaining…
[22:27] <dmq> rickest maybe.
[22:27] <rickest> dmq: I get that with compiz and rss-glx, I believe
[22:27] <kmorrissey_> thanks anyway Walzmyn, any ideas where I might start
[22:28] <dmq> yep its a screensaver issue.
[22:28] <jill> yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[22:28] <jill> i fix amarok
[22:28] <jill> thanks to all
[22:28] <dmq> if i ty to open my screensaver config x dies. horribly.
[22:28] <Walzmyn> !video | kmorrissey_
[22:28] <Walzmyn> emm, that's not the right one
[22:29] <dmq> which kinda leads to the question, how do i disabled my screen saver without crashing x?
[22:29] <Walzmyn> dmq system settings
[22:30] <dmq> under what?
[22:31] <Walzmyn> dmq Kmenu>>system setting>> desktop
[22:31] <dmq> nope system settings causes my x to crash.
[22:31] <dmq> if you notice me go offline abrubtly, well its cause x died.
[22:32] <dmq> havent had this much fun since i figured out how to make cygwin tail to crash NT.
[22:32] <Boss> .
[22:34] <rickest> dmq: try xscreensaver-command -prefs
[22:35] <rickest> dmq: it's the preview window that's messing with you now, that one should avoid it
[22:35] <dmq> The program 'xscreensaver-command' is currently not installed.  You can install it by
[22:42] <dmq> ahh. look like updating my graphics driver sorted it
[22:43] <dmq> thanks a lot for the help. :-)
[22:45] <kmorrissey_> im not rying to get mutimedia codes, Im trying to remaster  a part of kubuntu so it fits on 800x640 screens
[22:47] <infoveilleux> hello !
[22:47] <Daisuke_Ido> add that as a resolution, then
[22:52] <ahmed_> السلام عليكم اني احمد من العراق
[22:52] <jill> cool
[22:52] <ahmed_> اكو احد عربي خبر
[22:54] <theunixgeek> The kde4artwork package isn't installing and I want the official KDE 4 wallpapers, any ideas?
[22:56] <word> why isn't it installing?
[22:57] <thegus> anyone know how to get kmail to list messages by time and date? inbox is all mixed up
[22:59] <word> thegus: you click on the column heading "date of arrival"
[22:59] <word> err order of arrival*
[22:59] <thegus> ok it works now, took a few times to sort properly..
[22:59] <thegus> thanks
[22:59] <word> np :)
[23:00] <_strog> hi i wanted to know how can i use the md5 checksum?
[23:01] <thegus> kubuntu rocks eh? excellent bunch of sound packages
[23:02] <_strog> can someone help me out?
[23:04] <thegus> >strog sudo apt-get install sleuthkit ?
 sorry I'm wrong. try md5sum --help in a terminal
[23:08] <francisco> hola tengo un problemilla alguien me puede decir como liberar el buffer de i/o
[23:08] <Odd-rationale> !es | francisco
[23:25] <poison> !codec
[23:25] <poison> !mpeg
[23:29] <ahmed_> اكو احد عربي
[23:31] <poison> after upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04 i get no sound
[23:33] <katatsumuri> Hello all :-) I have a question regarding the window "Hardware Drivers" that is popping up every now and then, especially when some programs are started. I'm using a proprietary driver for my nvidia graphics card, but is it possible to configure so that it doesn't pop up?
[23:33] <francisco> dvegag que tarjeta tienes
[23:37] <mountain-linux> Hello out there. After install of 7.10 did the update, now my tty1 - tty6 do not work. How can i fix this? How to get the virtual terminals back?
[23:37] <mountain-linux> just tty7 works.
[23:38] <mountain-linux> just tty7 works. For the KDE, this is what i'm using right now.
[23:40] <mountain-linux> How can i get the ctrl-alt -- f1-f6 back?
[23:40] <Steve-cal> In Adept Manager, how do I show the packages that need to be upgraded? If I just check "upgradable packages" and "upgrade requested" it doesn't show any packages, even tho at the bottom it claims there are 90 upgradable packages.
[23:40] <mountain-linux> just ctrl-alt -- f7 works.
[23:41] <mountain-linux> when i boot in recorvery mode tty1 is active.
[23:42] <mountain-linux> just ctrl-alt -- f7 works. All other screens are blank, no signal on monitor
[23:48] <word> Sooo..kde4..whats the new location for file and system settings?
[23:49] <joooj> how can you upgrade Kubuntu from the command line
[23:50] <word> joooj: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:50] <word> although that is pretty prone to problems..
[23:53] <joooj> how can you see what distribution you're running?
[23:54] <uga> word: uh? it's less troublesome than gui apps, that fail to do properly those packs that require commandline assistance for configuring
[23:54] <uga> joooj: type "lsb_release -a"
[23:55] <word> uga: that i've seen big improvements with over time but the command line reliability has stayed about the same, and i've had it suggest removing the kernel a few times without bothering to install another :P
[23:55] <mountain-linux> Hello out there. After install of 7.10 did the update, now my tty1 - tty6 do not work. How can i fix this? How to get the virtual terminals back?
[23:55] <uga> word: well, and the gui can do the same, right?
[23:55] <mountain-linux> just tty7 works. For the KDE, this is what i'm using right now.
[23:55] <uga> word: the guis are just frontends to apt-get
[23:55] <mountain-linux> just ctrl-alt -- f7 works. All other screens are blank, no signal on monitor
[23:55] <mountain-linux> How can i get the ctrl-alt -- f1-f6 back?
[23:56] <word> most are frontends with brains though and since they're designed to do a specific function most of the time they make sure it gets done right
[23:56] <joooj> I am running Kubuntu 6.06 when I type apt-get dist-upgrade, nothing happens
[23:56] <uga> mountain-linux: I'm suspecting a framebuffer monitor configuration prob
[23:56] <joooj> how can I upgrade
[23:56] <word> joooj: are you doing it as root? and do you recieve any command line output?
[23:56] <uga> word: I've had so many problems with guis that I never use them anymore
[23:57] <uga> word: cmdn lines have yet to fail on me
[23:57] <uga> word: and I have like hundreds of kernels installed ;)
[23:57] <uga> joooj: apt-get update first
[23:57] <uga> to have latest package list
[23:57] <word> uga: command lines always tell you what they're going to do which is why i do prefer them, in past releases gui's have been a TERRIBLE idea to upgrade with :P
[23:57] <uga> joooj: oh, you want to upgrade ot a new release?
[23:57] <mountain-linux> it worked till i updated 7.10, now tty1 - tty6 or tty8 are blank.
[23:58] <uga> word: guis failed here to work to hardy
[23:58] <word> oh yah forgot to tell him to edit sources ;p
[23:58] <uga> word: cmd line worked. The stupid packs required cmd line assistance
[23:58] <word> uga: i accidentally upgraded to hardy with 'unsupported updates' checked, my network card wasn't detected and x won't start, so i just did a fresh install lol ;p
[23:59] <uga> joooj: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and point all releases to hardy
[23:59] <uga> then apt-get update
[23:59] <uga> and apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:59] <word> there's a command around here somewhere to make editting sources.list easy hmmm...*googles*
[23:59] <uga> yes, it's called "vim"