| === ScottK-uds is now known as ScottK2 | ||
| Riddell | oh my ears | 00:18 |
|---|---|---|
| seele | yeah.. my head is ringing | 00:24 |
| ScottK2 | And it's not because of the volume. | 00:25 |
| seele | ScottK2: nah, i only had one beer tonight | 00:27 |
| seele | ScottK2: if anything, it's from jumping around like a crazy person | 00:27 |
| apachelogger | uhhh jumpstyle dancing :D | 00:27 |
| ScottK2 | I was thinking more about the nature of the sounds than the volume. They did severe violence to some of my favorite songs. | 00:27 |
| seele | lol | 00:27 |
| Riddell | ScottK2: which one? | 00:29 |
| ScottK2 | Light My Fire and American Pie are the two that come immediately to mind. | 00:29 |
| ScottK2 | Although the latter is long enough that it had got a lot better by the end. | 00:30 |
| ScottK2 | I'm old enough that I own American Pie from the original release (1972). | 00:30 |
| * uga thinks *buntu coding guidelines should suggest using firefox as a base for bad gui examples | 01:07 | |
| yuriy | uga: what parts of firefox are that bad that don't already apply to all of gnome? | 02:42 |
| uga | yuriy: check the new download manager | 04:08 |
| uga | yuriy: previously if you wanted to erase the whole list there was a clear list button | 04:08 |
| uga | now you need to select one of the items and right click (if you don't select an item the menu won't popup) | 04:08 |
| uga | and then clear list | 04:09 |
| uga | why hide a function that is so useful and make it hard to reach | 04:09 |
| uga | whoever did that had "oh! less buttons!" in his brain | 04:09 |
| uga | appart from that, the settings dialogs are a mess | 04:11 |
| uga | a real mess | 04:11 |
| Jucato | (less of a mess compared to konqueror though :P) | 04:12 |
| uga | I don't think so | 04:12 |
| uga | try find where the proxy configuration goes | 04:13 |
| uga | privacy? security? advanced? | 04:13 |
| uga | where on earth is the connections option | 04:13 |
| uga | you need to go to advanced->network->settings | 04:13 |
| uga | obviously "network settings" is an advanced option in a browser, RIGHT¿? | 04:14 |
| uga | and cookies expiration time etc, which should be options that nobody ever uses, appear in the main manus | 04:15 |
| uga | menus | 04:15 |
| uga | Jucato: finding that option in thunderbird is even more fun | 04:16 |
| Jucato | heh I dare not touch the bird :) | 04:16 |
| uga | as far as kmail doesn't work fine, I got no other choice | 04:17 |
| uga | kde3 one was pretty annoying for imap | 04:17 |
| uga | and kde4 one is... well, ... you know =) | 04:17 |
| Jucato | yeah.. I know | 04:18 |
| Jucato | also annoying for gmail imap | 04:18 |
| Jucato | s/also/still/ | 04:19 |
| nixternal | oi | 04:43 |
| vorian | why does qt-copy take sooooo long? | 04:44 |
| nixternal | vorian: you don't need qt-copy if you are using -proposed, as the qt4.4 libraries are available | 04:48 |
| vorian | sh** | 04:49 |
| nixternal | haha | 04:49 |
| vorian | :) | 04:49 |
| vorian | the wiki should be updated | 04:50 |
| skreech_ | nixternal: ping | 05:35 |
| === skreech_ is now known as DASKreech | ||
| nixternal | yo | 05:35 |
| Jucato | nixternal: pong | 05:35 |
| nixternal | foo | 05:35 |
| Jucato | :D | 05:35 |
| * Jucato loves playing with nixternal hehehe | 05:36 | |
| nixternal | I will make you sick! stay away! | 05:36 |
| DASKreech | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Chicago_Downtown_Aerial_View.jpg | 05:36 |
| DASKreech | I can see your house from here! | 05:36 |
| nixternal | holy jesus that is awesome | 05:36 |
| Jucato | "* Jucato loves playing with nixternal" <--- if that isn't evidence of being utterly sick and broken, I don't know what is | 05:36 |
| Jucato | whoa!!! | 05:37 |
| Jucato | why can't we have one of those :( | 05:37 |
| Jucato | (we don't even have a decent night skyline pic...) | 05:37 |
| nixternal | DASKreech: it need to go about 10 more miles west, and you might be able to see it | 05:37 |
| nixternal | that picture makes chicago look small | 05:39 |
| DASKreech | It's tiny :) | 05:39 |
| DASKreech | I have to change my res down just to make it fit my screen | 05:40 |
| nixternal | I can see my old apartment though | 05:40 |
| nixternal | that pic was taken a few miles up of course | 05:41 |
| nixternal | where you see all of the skyscapers, that is a few hundred square miles | 05:41 |
| DASKreech | See that's why we need a KDE webbrowser :) | 05:42 |
| nixternal | ey? | 05:42 |
| DASKreech | I got this pic from Stumbleupon | 05:43 |
| DASKreech | WE need something with an uber plugin system :-) | 05:43 |
| nixternal | ya, I would like to be able to use some of the greasemonkey scripts in Konqueror | 05:44 |
| nixternal | I totally dislike Firefox, and especially dislike Firefox 3 | 05:44 |
| nixternal | beta 5 and the new RC both suck hardcore | 05:44 |
| nixternal | to me, Konqi in KDE 4 seems a bit bloated, and definitely broken | 05:45 |
| DASKreech | w3m! w3m! w3m! | 05:55 |
| Hobbsee | strange person. | 05:59 |
| nixternal | most definitely | 06:00 |
| nixternal | howdy Hobbsee | 06:00 |
| * seele yawns | 06:00 | |
| nixternal | howdy seele | 06:00 |
| seele | later everyone.. off to the airport | 06:00 |
| nixternal | just wakin' up? | 06:00 |
| seele | yup | 06:00 |
| nixternal | haha, figured you were on your way back to this cold ass country | 06:01 |
| Jucato | have a safe and nice trip seele | 06:03 |
| Hobbsee | heya | 06:04 |
| nixternal | I would hate that flight...way to long for me not to be on solid ground | 06:06 |
| * Jucato notes that nixternal has turned #kde-devel to #kde-cafe... | 06:06 | |
| Jucato | hallow Hobbsee | 06:06 |
| nixternal | that wasn't me | 06:06 |
| Jucato | I saw you first :) | 06:06 |
| nixternal | also, don't be givin' out info on the cafe man...it is a top secret geek breeding ground | 06:07 |
| Jucato | nixternal: I still have one week for kde-docs right? | 06:07 |
| nixternal | god that is scary | 06:07 |
| Jucato | on right | 06:07 |
| Jucato | oh right | 06:07 |
| nixternal | 2 weeks | 06:07 |
| nixternal | June 3rd | 06:07 |
| nixternal | err, ya, one week...not even 2 | 06:07 |
| Jucato | that's practically 1 week.. I don't count weekends | 06:07 |
| Jucato | :D | 06:07 |
| nixternal | 10 days | 06:07 |
| Jucato | weekends are when I work... weekdays are when I lounge | 06:07 |
| nixternal | hah | 06:08 |
| nixternal | I am always lounging | 06:08 |
| Jucato | I'm eyeing the session mangler and autostart control module docs... | 06:08 |
| nixternal | jeesh | 06:08 |
| nixternal | fire away homeskillet | 06:08 |
| Jucato | if you always lounge, I wonder what you do when you're active :) | 06:08 |
| nixternal | I am trying to get a working trunk build...but my desktop keeps locking up and I can't figure out the reason | 06:09 |
| Jucato | somehow I always get the wrong image of a fish fillet when you say "homeskillet"... | 06:09 |
| nixternal | I am starting to lean towards faulty hardware somewhere | 06:09 |
| Jucato | one word: "Plasma" | 06:09 |
| Jucato | :D | 06:09 |
| * Jucato likes to blame the poor critter | 06:09 | |
| nixternal | nah, cuz I can make KDE 3 lock up while building stuff | 06:09 |
| Jucato | oh | 06:09 |
| Jucato | now that's bad | 06:09 |
| nixternal | but kde 4 locks up a heck of a lot more than kde 3 does | 06:10 |
| nixternal | kde 3 has only locked up a couple of times...kde 4 has locked up every time | 06:10 |
| nixternal | with and without the fglrx driver | 06:10 |
| Jucato | fglrx.. | 06:13 |
| * Jucato once again sulks at the current state of his hardware... | 06:13 | |
| * DASKreech blames X | 06:31 | |
| DASKreech | X sucks | 06:31 |
| nixternal | that it does | 06:31 |
| nixternal | unless of course you have intel, then it rocks :) | 06:31 |
| Jucato | indeed. | 06:32 |
| Jucato | but Intel doesn't make AGP's (discreet graphis cards?) | 06:32 |
| Jucato | or PCI-E's... | 06:32 |
| DASKreech | pr PCI | 06:34 |
| nixternal | or anything detachable for that matter | 06:35 |
| Jucato | yeah... | 06:35 |
| DASKreech | I hate the new X though | 06:35 |
| DASKreech | hate hate | 06:35 |
| * Jucato is stuck with low-end NVIDIA cards... because his mobo doesn't have PCI-E slots... | 06:35 | |
| DASKreech | Mine either | 06:35 |
| DASKreech | why do you need a high end one? | 06:35 |
| DASKreech | the day you need a high end video card for the desktop is the day you need Vista +1 | 06:36 |
| Jucato | DASKreech: well not really high-end, but at least non-legacy | 06:36 |
| Jucato | not true | 06:36 |
| Jucato | if you were a graphics artist or animator, you'd still need a high-end one | 06:36 |
| Jucato | (which was something I hope I'd become) | 06:36 |
| DASKreech | Hmm what kinda graphics? | 06:37 |
| Jucato | anyway, the real issue is that my card is legacy. and almost all of the fixes that relate to Qt4-NVIDIA bugs are not backported | 06:37 |
| Jucato | computer graphics, animation (3D) | 06:37 |
| DASKreech | Blender? | 06:38 |
| Jucato | kinda | 06:39 |
| Jucato | I'm also looking into gaming... the heavy kind... | 06:39 |
| Jucato | (NWN for one) | 06:39 |
| DASKreech | .. professional ? | 06:51 |
| Jucato | hm? | 06:52 |
| DASKreech | As in like FOSS heavy gaming? or professional dev? | 06:52 |
| Jucato | just playing for now... I was dreaming of dev years ago.. | 06:54 |
| Jucato | not sure if I'll take that up again anytime soon | 06:54 |
| DASKreech | :-( | 06:56 |
| Jucato | well, no time really | 06:56 |
| DASKreech | Lots of FOSS games need devs | 06:56 |
| Jucato | but my area of interest mainly revolves around graphics. from graphical user interface to computer graphics to 3D graphics :) | 06:56 |
| DASKreech | The TUX RPG could use new models | 06:57 |
| Jucato | who knows... maybe one day... | 06:57 |
| Jucato | any how... nappy wappy time | 06:57 |
| DASKreech | Jucato: awake? | 07:48 |
| mhb | Artemis_Fowl, around? | 09:14 |
| Artemis_Fowl | mhb: yes | 09:14 |
| mhb | splendid | 09:14 |
| mhb | Artemis_Fowl: hm, yes, are you able to /msg ? | 09:15 |
| Artemis_Fowl | one min to verify my nickname | 09:16 |
| mhb | OK. | 09:16 |
| Artemis_Fowl | ok | 09:16 |
| === masjan_ is now known as masjan | ||
| mhb | any KDE4 expert around? | 10:40 |
| Nightrose | mhb: many probably ;-) | 10:45 |
| Nightrose | what do you need? | 10:45 |
| mhb | Nightrose: nothing anymore | 10:47 |
| mhb | Nightrose: well, I wonder how you change panel size in KDE 4.devel | 10:47 |
| Nightrose | there was a video on that on the planet ;-) | 10:47 |
| mhb | Nightrose: also, do you happen to know how to enable the WebKit kpart in konqueror? | 10:48 |
| Nightrose | nope sorry | 10:49 |
| apachelogger | mhb: co playground/libs/webkitkde | 10:50 |
| apachelogger | build it | 10:50 |
| apachelogger | then best thing to do is switching it in the file association kcm | 10:50 |
| apachelogger | for the mimetype html | 10:50 |
| apachelogger | or | 10:50 |
| mhb | apachelogger: I've built that | 10:50 |
| apachelogger | per session in konqueror -> view -> something -> webkitkde | 10:50 |
| mhb | thanks | 10:51 |
| mhb | got to go, be back in a few | 10:51 |
| mhb | apachelogger: you seem to be a skilled chap | 11:15 |
| mhb | apachelogger: how do you rebuild a part of kdebase without actually having to rebuild the whole kdebase over again? | 11:15 |
| mhb | apachelogger: forget the question | 11:16 |
| mhb | apachelogger: I guess using the old cmake/make should work | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | yup | 11:23 |
| mhb | turned out it didn't | 11:23 |
| apachelogger | so you broke something | 11:23 |
| mhb | no. but with those cs/cb scripts you can switch to a build dir and build a particular part. | 11:23 |
| apachelogger | just svn up in cs, switch to cb and run cmakekde | 11:24 |
| mhb | if you run cmake . and make afterwards, it won't compile anything - /bin/sh: KDE4_AUTOMOC_EXECUTABLE-NOTFOUND: not found | 11:24 |
| apachelogger | sounds like a env var issue though | 11:24 |
| apachelogger | mhb: btw, you shouldn't run cmake in the source tree | 11:25 |
| mhb | right | 11:25 |
| mhb | I said it wasn't a good way to build it | 11:25 |
| apachelogger | hm | 11:25 |
| apachelogger | mhb: so you want to rebuild a specific application within kdebase? | 11:26 |
| mhb | exacylu | 11:26 |
| mhb | exactly | 11:26 |
| mhb | but I know how to do it right now | 11:26 |
| mhb | so there's nothing to worry about | 11:26 |
| * apachelogger goes in standby again :P | 11:27 | |
| mhb | grr | 11:32 |
| mhb | apachelogger: I need your help | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | sure | 11:34 |
| mhb | apachelogger: I've built kdebase once | 11:34 |
| mhb | apachelogger: and it worked | 11:34 |
| mhb | now I've changed some systemsettings code, and I'm trying to rebuild it | 11:34 |
| mhb | so I do "cs kdebase/workspace/systemsettings/" and then cmakekde | 11:34 |
| apachelogger | well | 11:35 |
| mhb | for some freaking reason, it keeps the code cached somewhere! | 11:35 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 11:35 |
| apachelogger | cmake does | 11:35 |
| mhb | argh | 11:35 |
| apachelogger | you will have to run cmakekde in the kdebase dir | 11:35 |
| mhb | and wait half an hour for it to build, after every change? | 11:35 |
| mhb | no way | 11:35 |
| apachelogger | mhb: does not | 11:35 |
| apachelogger | as you said it's caching | 11:36 |
| apachelogger | ultimately you just need to run cmake PATH in kdebase | 11:36 |
| apachelogger | and make/make install in workspace/systemsettings | 11:36 |
| mhb | you can't just build systemsettings on your own, without having cmake to check all the other apps? | 11:37 |
| mhb | on every build run | 11:38 |
| apachelogger | mhb: well, you can modify systemsettings' cmake file | 11:43 |
| mhb | what? | 11:43 |
| apachelogger | cmakelists.txt | 11:43 |
| mhb | is KDE that developer-unfriendly? | 11:43 |
| apachelogger | by default it inherts | 11:43 |
| apachelogger | mhb: it's not like you were able to do that with autohell :P | 11:44 |
| mhb | either that or you don't know the correct way | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | you can also run cmake just in workspace | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | mhb: thing is I never had a cache issue | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | and I mostly do partial builds | 11:44 |
| mhb | can't you just run some make clean in the build directory so it has to recheck the source files? | 11:44 |
| mhb | because I've edited them, and it doesn't care | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | oh | 11:45 |
| apachelogger | as a matter of fact you might | 11:45 |
| mhb | even if I write in a random string of characters, it doesn't care and builds from some cache | 11:45 |
| apachelogger | mhb: cd to the build dir of workspace/systemsettings | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | then run rm -rf ./* :P | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | mhb: I suggest googling | 11:46 |
| * apachelogger has to leave for a administrator meeting | 11:46 | |
| mhb | ok | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | windows server 2003 patching :D | 11:47 |
| apachelogger | hrrhr | 11:47 |
| mhb | ah, lovely | 11:47 |
| mhb | how come you have time for that and not UDS ? :o) | 11:47 |
| mhb | shame on you! :o) | 11:47 |
| apachelogger | because it's part of the preparation for the IT exam on monday :P | 11:48 |
| Tm_T | hahah | 11:48 |
| mhb | hmm, is it | 11:48 |
| mhb | have fun then | 11:48 |
| apachelogger | laters | 11:48 |
| etretyak | aa | 12:05 |
| smarter | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=qdevelop << package waiting for review/ack :) | 13:08 |
| === Czessi_ is now known as Czessi | ||
| nosrednaekim | nice interview Riddell :) | 15:35 |
| nosrednaekim | the "four point naught" threw me off for a while though :P | 15:35 |
| Jucato | the youtube video? | 15:39 |
| Jucato | he was "dell from Kubuntu" :) | 15:39 |
| nosrednaekim | :) | 15:40 |
| nixternal | mornin' | 15:41 |
| Jucato | moin nixternal | 15:43 |
| \sh | hey nixternal-core ;) | 15:43 |
| jjesse | afternoon Jucato | 15:43 |
| nixternal | mmm, mcgriddles ftw! | 15:44 |
| Jucato | almost noon jjesse :) | 15:44 |
| jjesse | is he a core dev know | 15:44 |
| Jucato | (for you I guess?) | 15:44 |
| jjesse | Jucato: yes almost 11am | 15:44 |
| nixternal | indy 500 tomorrow! | 15:46 |
| jjesse | yay? | 15:51 |
| nixternal | of course yay :) | 15:51 |
| nixternal | go danika patrick! | 15:51 |
| jjesse | you just like her cause she's smokin hot | 15:53 |
| jjesse | not based on her driving skillz | 15:53 |
| nixternal | and she is from Illinois | 15:53 |
| jjesse | off to hardware store be back in a bit | 15:53 |
| nixternal | she isn't the best driver, but ya, she's smokin' hot :p | 15:53 |
| \sh | cheer people :) | 16:09 |
| \sh | a good german beer in the afternoon is good ;) | 16:09 |
| txwikinger | nixternal: The race is tomorrow, right? | 16:55 |
| nixternal | yup | 16:59 |
| === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh | ||
| jjesse | stupid one time question: how do i set kate up so i can have multiple windows of kate open at a time? | 17:24 |
| nixternal | ey? | 17:25 |
| nixternal | you can't just keep opening up kate? | 17:25 |
| nosrednaekim | yeah.... | 17:25 |
| nixternal | just hit cancel when that window pops up | 17:25 |
| jjesse | from the application launcher when i click on kate it doesn't open up a new window | 17:26 |
| nixternal | it does here | 17:26 |
| nixternal | it popped up something about a session, but I accidentally hit esc before I could read what it said | 17:26 |
| nosrednaekim | works here.... what command is the menu item executing? | 17:27 |
| jjesse | don't know what command the launcher in kubuntu is executing | 17:28 |
| nixternal | interesting...it doesn't work here | 17:28 |
| nixternal | when you open up kate from the menu, it only allows one instance | 17:28 |
| nosrednaekim | jjesse: try, right click, edit menu | 17:28 |
| nixternal | nice boog find there jjesse :) | 17:28 |
| nosrednaekim | nixternal: not for me... | 17:28 |
| jjesse | nosrednaekim: hrmm running kde4 | 17:29 |
| nosrednaekim | oh! ok | 17:29 |
| nixternal | same here | 17:29 |
| nixternal | haha | 17:29 |
| nosrednaekim | ^_^ | 17:29 |
| jjesse | i thought at one time kubuntu shipped with something like kate & or something like that you had to edit? | 17:29 |
| nosrednaekim | i'm running a rather odd system.... kde3 with kdesktop replaced by plasma :P | 17:29 |
| jjesse | i can open up another session of kate through the terminal | 17:30 |
| nosrednaekim | ah.... confirmed :) | 17:30 |
| nixternal | Exec=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/kate --use %U | 17:30 |
| jjesse | if i rememve the --use then i can open muliptle session if i recall corectly | 17:31 |
| claydoh | the command to run kate 'kate --use %u' keeps everything in the same window, get rid of the '--use' bit in the menu entry | 17:31 |
| jjesse | where do i change that? | 17:31 |
| nosrednaekim | jjesse: "/usr/lib/kde4/bin/kmenuedit" | 17:31 |
| nixternal | the --use should be removed honestly | 17:31 |
| nosrednaekim | does the --use work for konqueror? | 17:31 |
| nixternal | jjesse: if you launch kate via krunner, then you are fine | 17:32 |
| jjesse | cool thanks for the help | 17:34 |
| nosrednaekim | ooh couple months ago remember I was wondering what the @ symbol did in python? | 17:53 |
| nosrednaekim | its called a "function decorator" | 17:53 |
| nosrednaekim | and its used for passing a function, complete with its arguments, through another function | 17:54 |
| nosrednaekim | which is how @pyqtSignature("") stops it from being run twice on each event | 18:00 |
| nosrednaekim | thats from the last chapter in my python book :P | 18:01 |
| nixternal | wth package provides $QTDIR/lib/pkgconfig? | 18:08 |
| nixternal | there is a prepend in my ~/.bashrc but I can't apt-file search for it with results | 18:08 |
| === hunger_t is now known as hunger | ||
| Serega | hi folks | 21:07 |
| === kewark is now known as krawek | ||
| ryanakca | Has https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidWebsite been "finalized" ? | 23:38 |
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