=== ScottK-uds is now known as ScottK2 [00:18] oh my ears [00:24] yeah.. my head is ringing [00:25] And it's not because of the volume. [00:27] ScottK2: nah, i only had one beer tonight [00:27] ScottK2: if anything, it's from jumping around like a crazy person [00:27] uhhh jumpstyle dancing :D [00:27] I was thinking more about the nature of the sounds than the volume. They did severe violence to some of my favorite songs. [00:27] lol [00:29] ScottK2: which one? [00:29] Light My Fire and American Pie are the two that come immediately to mind. [00:30] Although the latter is long enough that it had got a lot better by the end. [00:30] I'm old enough that I own American Pie from the original release (1972). [01:07] * uga thinks *buntu coding guidelines should suggest using firefox as a base for bad gui examples [02:42] uga: what parts of firefox are that bad that don't already apply to all of gnome? [04:08] yuriy: check the new download manager [04:08] yuriy: previously if you wanted to erase the whole list there was a clear list button [04:08] now you need to select one of the items and right click (if you don't select an item the menu won't popup) [04:09] and then clear list [04:09] why hide a function that is so useful and make it hard to reach [04:09] whoever did that had "oh! less buttons!" in his brain [04:11] appart from that, the settings dialogs are a mess [04:11] a real mess [04:12] (less of a mess compared to konqueror though :P) [04:12] I don't think so [04:13] try find where the proxy configuration goes [04:13] privacy? security? advanced? [04:13] where on earth is the connections option [04:13] you need to go to advanced->network->settings [04:14] obviously "network settings" is an advanced option in a browser, RIGHT¿? [04:15] and cookies expiration time etc, which should be options that nobody ever uses, appear in the main manus [04:15] menus [04:16] Jucato: finding that option in thunderbird is even more fun [04:16] heh I dare not touch the bird :) [04:17] as far as kmail doesn't work fine, I got no other choice [04:17] kde3 one was pretty annoying for imap [04:17] and kde4 one is... well, ... you know =) [04:18] yeah.. I know [04:18] also annoying for gmail imap [04:19] s/also/still/ [04:43] oi [04:44] why does qt-copy take sooooo long? [04:48] vorian: you don't need qt-copy if you are using -proposed, as the qt4.4 libraries are available [04:49] sh** [04:49] haha [04:49] :) [04:50] the wiki should be updated [05:35] nixternal: ping === skreech_ is now known as DASKreech [05:35] yo [05:35] nixternal: pong [05:35] foo [05:35] :D [05:36] * Jucato loves playing with nixternal hehehe [05:36] I will make you sick! stay away! [05:36] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Chicago_Downtown_Aerial_View.jpg [05:36] I can see your house from here! [05:36] holy jesus that is awesome [05:36] "* Jucato loves playing with nixternal" <--- if that isn't evidence of being utterly sick and broken, I don't know what is [05:37] whoa!!! [05:37] why can't we have one of those :( [05:37] (we don't even have a decent night skyline pic...) [05:37] DASKreech: it need to go about 10 more miles west, and you might be able to see it [05:39] that picture makes chicago look small [05:39] It's tiny :) [05:40] I have to change my res down just to make it fit my screen [05:40] I can see my old apartment though [05:41] that pic was taken a few miles up of course [05:41] where you see all of the skyscapers, that is a few hundred square miles [05:42] See that's why we need a KDE webbrowser :) [05:42] ey? [05:43] I got this pic from Stumbleupon [05:43] WE need something with an uber plugin system :-) [05:44] ya, I would like to be able to use some of the greasemonkey scripts in Konqueror [05:44] I totally dislike Firefox, and especially dislike Firefox 3 [05:44] beta 5 and the new RC both suck hardcore [05:45] to me, Konqi in KDE 4 seems a bit bloated, and definitely broken [05:55] w3m! w3m! w3m! [05:59] strange person. [06:00] most definitely [06:00] howdy Hobbsee [06:00] * seele yawns [06:00] howdy seele [06:00] later everyone.. off to the airport [06:00] just wakin' up? [06:00] yup [06:01] haha, figured you were on your way back to this cold ass country [06:03] have a safe and nice trip seele [06:04] heya [06:06] I would hate that flight...way to long for me not to be on solid ground [06:06] * Jucato notes that nixternal has turned #kde-devel to #kde-cafe... [06:06] hallow Hobbsee [06:06] that wasn't me [06:06] I saw you first :) [06:07] also, don't be givin' out info on the cafe man...it is a top secret geek breeding ground [06:07] nixternal: I still have one week for kde-docs right? [06:07] god that is scary [06:07] on right [06:07] oh right [06:07] 2 weeks [06:07] June 3rd [06:07] err, ya, one week...not even 2 [06:07] that's practically 1 week.. I don't count weekends [06:07] :D [06:07] 10 days [06:07] weekends are when I work... weekdays are when I lounge [06:08] hah [06:08] I am always lounging [06:08] I'm eyeing the session mangler and autostart control module docs... [06:08] jeesh [06:08] fire away homeskillet [06:08] if you always lounge, I wonder what you do when you're active :) [06:09] I am trying to get a working trunk build...but my desktop keeps locking up and I can't figure out the reason [06:09] somehow I always get the wrong image of a fish fillet when you say "homeskillet"... [06:09] I am starting to lean towards faulty hardware somewhere [06:09] one word: "Plasma" [06:09] :D [06:09] * Jucato likes to blame the poor critter [06:09] nah, cuz I can make KDE 3 lock up while building stuff [06:09] oh [06:09] now that's bad [06:10] but kde 4 locks up a heck of a lot more than kde 3 does [06:10] kde 3 has only locked up a couple of times...kde 4 has locked up every time [06:10] with and without the fglrx driver [06:13] fglrx.. [06:13] * Jucato once again sulks at the current state of his hardware... [06:31] * DASKreech blames X [06:31] X sucks [06:31] that it does [06:31] unless of course you have intel, then it rocks :) [06:32] indeed. [06:32] but Intel doesn't make AGP's (discreet graphis cards?) [06:32] or PCI-E's... [06:34] pr PCI [06:35] or anything detachable for that matter [06:35] yeah... [06:35] I hate the new X though [06:35] hate hate [06:35] * Jucato is stuck with low-end NVIDIA cards... because his mobo doesn't have PCI-E slots... [06:35] Mine either [06:35] why do you need a high end one? [06:36] the day you need a high end video card for the desktop is the day you need Vista +1 [06:36] DASKreech: well not really high-end, but at least non-legacy [06:36] not true [06:36] if you were a graphics artist or animator, you'd still need a high-end one [06:36] (which was something I hope I'd become) [06:37] Hmm what kinda graphics? [06:37] anyway, the real issue is that my card is legacy. and almost all of the fixes that relate to Qt4-NVIDIA bugs are not backported [06:37] computer graphics, animation (3D) [06:38] Blender? [06:39] kinda [06:39] I'm also looking into gaming... the heavy kind... [06:39] (NWN for one) [06:51] .. professional ? [06:52] hm? [06:52] As in like FOSS heavy gaming? or professional dev? [06:54] just playing for now... I was dreaming of dev years ago.. [06:54] not sure if I'll take that up again anytime soon [06:56] :-( [06:56] well, no time really [06:56] Lots of FOSS games need devs [06:56] but my area of interest mainly revolves around graphics. from graphical user interface to computer graphics to 3D graphics :) [06:57] The TUX RPG could use new models [06:57] who knows... maybe one day... [06:57] any how... nappy wappy time [07:48] Jucato: awake? [09:14] Artemis_Fowl, around? [09:14] mhb: yes [09:14] splendid [09:15] Artemis_Fowl: hm, yes, are you able to /msg ? [09:16] one min to verify my nickname [09:16] OK. [09:16] ok === masjan_ is now known as masjan [10:40] any KDE4 expert around? [10:45] mhb: many probably ;-) [10:45] what do you need? [10:47] Nightrose: nothing anymore [10:47] Nightrose: well, I wonder how you change panel size in KDE 4.devel [10:47] there was a video on that on the planet ;-) [10:48] Nightrose: also, do you happen to know how to enable the WebKit kpart in konqueror? [10:49] nope sorry [10:50] mhb: co playground/libs/webkitkde [10:50] build it [10:50] then best thing to do is switching it in the file association kcm [10:50] for the mimetype html [10:50] or [10:50] apachelogger: I've built that [10:50] per session in konqueror -> view -> something -> webkitkde [10:51] thanks [10:51] got to go, be back in a few [11:15] apachelogger: you seem to be a skilled chap [11:15] apachelogger: how do you rebuild a part of kdebase without actually having to rebuild the whole kdebase over again? [11:16] apachelogger: forget the question [11:16] apachelogger: I guess using the old cmake/make should work [11:23] yup [11:23] turned out it didn't [11:23] so you broke something [11:23] no. but with those cs/cb scripts you can switch to a build dir and build a particular part. [11:24] just svn up in cs, switch to cb and run cmakekde [11:24] if you run cmake . and make afterwards, it won't compile anything - /bin/sh: KDE4_AUTOMOC_EXECUTABLE-NOTFOUND: not found [11:24] sounds like a env var issue though [11:25] mhb: btw, you shouldn't run cmake in the source tree [11:25] right [11:25] I said it wasn't a good way to build it [11:25] hm [11:26] mhb: so you want to rebuild a specific application within kdebase? [11:26] exacylu [11:26] exactly [11:26] but I know how to do it right now [11:26] so there's nothing to worry about [11:27] * apachelogger goes in standby again :P [11:32] grr [11:33] apachelogger: I need your help [11:34] sure [11:34] apachelogger: I've built kdebase once [11:34] apachelogger: and it worked [11:34] now I've changed some systemsettings code, and I'm trying to rebuild it [11:34] so I do "cs kdebase/workspace/systemsettings/" and then cmakekde [11:35] well [11:35] for some freaking reason, it keeps the code cached somewhere! [11:35] yeah [11:35] cmake does [11:35] argh [11:35] you will have to run cmakekde in the kdebase dir [11:35] and wait half an hour for it to build, after every change? [11:35] no way [11:35] mhb: does not [11:36] as you said it's caching [11:36] ultimately you just need to run cmake PATH in kdebase [11:36] and make/make install in workspace/systemsettings [11:37] you can't just build systemsettings on your own, without having cmake to check all the other apps? [11:38] on every build run [11:43] mhb: well, you can modify systemsettings' cmake file [11:43] what? [11:43] cmakelists.txt [11:43] is KDE that developer-unfriendly? [11:43] by default it inherts [11:44] mhb: it's not like you were able to do that with autohell :P [11:44] either that or you don't know the correct way [11:44] you can also run cmake just in workspace [11:44] mhb: thing is I never had a cache issue [11:44] and I mostly do partial builds [11:44] can't you just run some make clean in the build directory so it has to recheck the source files? [11:44] because I've edited them, and it doesn't care [11:45] oh [11:45] as a matter of fact you might [11:45] even if I write in a random string of characters, it doesn't care and builds from some cache [11:46] mhb: cd to the build dir of workspace/systemsettings [11:46] then run rm -rf ./* :P [11:46] mhb: I suggest googling [11:46] * apachelogger has to leave for a administrator meeting [11:46] ok [11:47] windows server 2003 patching :D [11:47] hrrhr [11:47] ah, lovely [11:47] how come you have time for that and not UDS ? :o) [11:47] shame on you! :o) [11:48] because it's part of the preparation for the IT exam on monday :P [11:48] hahah [11:48] hmm, is it [11:48] have fun then [11:48] laters [12:05] aa [13:08] http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=qdevelop << package waiting for review/ack :) === Czessi_ is now known as Czessi [15:35] nice interview Riddell :) [15:35] the "four point naught" threw me off for a while though :P [15:39] the youtube video? [15:39] he was "dell from Kubuntu" :) [15:40] :) [15:41] mornin' [15:43] moin nixternal [15:43] <\sh> hey nixternal-core ;) [15:43] afternoon Jucato [15:44] mmm, mcgriddles ftw! [15:44] almost noon jjesse :) [15:44] is he a core dev know [15:44] (for you I guess?) [15:44] Jucato: yes almost 11am [15:46] indy 500 tomorrow! [15:51] yay? [15:51] of course yay :) [15:51] go danika patrick! [15:53] you just like her cause she's smokin hot [15:53] not based on her driving skillz [15:53] and she is from Illinois [15:53] off to hardware store be back in a bit [15:53] she isn't the best driver, but ya, she's smokin' hot :p [16:09] <\sh> cheer people :) [16:09] <\sh> a good german beer in the afternoon is good ;) [16:55] nixternal: The race is tomorrow, right? [16:59] yup === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [17:24] stupid one time question: how do i set kate up so i can have multiple windows of kate open at a time? [17:25] ey? [17:25] you can't just keep opening up kate? [17:25] yeah.... [17:25] just hit cancel when that window pops up [17:26] from the application launcher when i click on kate it doesn't open up a new window [17:26] it does here [17:26] it popped up something about a session, but I accidentally hit esc before I could read what it said [17:27] works here.... what command is the menu item executing? [17:28] don't know what command the launcher in kubuntu is executing [17:28] interesting...it doesn't work here [17:28] when you open up kate from the menu, it only allows one instance [17:28] jjesse: try, right click, edit menu [17:28] nice boog find there jjesse :) [17:28] nixternal: not for me... [17:29] nosrednaekim: hrmm running kde4 [17:29] oh! ok [17:29] same here [17:29] haha [17:29] ^_^ [17:29] i thought at one time kubuntu shipped with something like kate & or something like that you had to edit? [17:29] i'm running a rather odd system.... kde3 with kdesktop replaced by plasma :P [17:30] i can open up another session of kate through the terminal [17:30] ah.... confirmed :) [17:30] Exec=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/kate --use %U [17:31] if i rememve the --use then i can open muliptle session if i recall corectly [17:31] the command to run kate 'kate --use %u' keeps everything in the same window, get rid of the '--use' bit in the menu entry [17:31] where do i change that? [17:31] jjesse: "/usr/lib/kde4/bin/kmenuedit" [17:31] the --use should be removed honestly [17:31] does the --use work for konqueror? [17:32] jjesse: if you launch kate via krunner, then you are fine [17:34] cool thanks for the help [17:53] ooh couple months ago remember I was wondering what the @ symbol did in python? [17:53] its called a "function decorator" [17:54] and its used for passing a function, complete with its arguments, through another function [18:00] which is how @pyqtSignature("") stops it from being run twice on each event [18:01] thats from the last chapter in my python book :P [18:08] wth package provides $QTDIR/lib/pkgconfig? [18:08] there is a prepend in my ~/.bashrc but I can't apt-file search for it with results === hunger_t is now known as hunger [21:07] hi folks === kewark is now known as krawek [23:38] Has https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidWebsite been "finalized" ?