[00:00] <Dragnslcr> He said easy
[00:00]  * Dragnslcr ducks
[00:00] <joooj> thanks
[00:00] <uga> Dragnslcr: such lack of humour =)
[00:00] <Dragnslcr> word- for simple stuff, you'll probably find nano best
[00:00] <mountain-linux> how can i tell what userlevel i'm in?
[00:00] <francisco> lema
[00:01] <word> Dragnslcr: i meant it goes through and replaces all references to eg, gutsy with hardy
[00:01] <word> without ever having to open a text editor
[00:01] <word> messes up 3rd party sources most of the time, but it's easier for regular folk ;p
[00:02] <joooj> so instead of dapper, I should put hardy?
[00:02] <word> yes
[00:06] <mountain-linux> how can i tell what runlevel i'm in?
[00:06] <ubuntu> can someone tell me what option to use to mount a drive when it says Extended for type?
[00:07] <joooj> just type "runlevel"
[00:07] <word> mountain-linux: runlevel ? lol
[00:09] <mountain-linux> Thank you,
[00:09] <mountain-linux> how can i change from N 2 to level 3
[00:11] <joooj> sudo telinit 3
[00:12] <mountain-linux> Thank you,
[00:12] <mountain-linux> how can i start or restart the virtual terminals?
[00:17] <mountain-linux> how can i start or restart the text consoles
[00:17] <Chrix98> screen?
[00:21] <_job_> maybe just logout and log back in?
[00:21]  * genii puts on another pot of coffee
[00:21] <uga> mountain-linux: not sure if that can be done, but if it's a framebuffer issue, you could look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[00:22] <uga> mountain-linux: do you see the kubuntu startup screens now?
[00:22] <uga> ie, the progress bar etc
[00:22] <uga> if not, it's a FB issue and you could just disable it as that page explains or configure it
[00:23] <mountain-linux> i get the startup screen, login on tty7, but no status on tty8 or no text consoles on tty1 - tty6
[00:25] <mountain-linux> this happened after the 7.10 update.
[00:25] <uga> uhmpf
[00:25] <arrrghhh> so i want knotes to run on startup.  i achieved that, but for some reason it pops up every time i boot in.  on my desktop, it chooses the last note i created.  my laptop doesn't have any notes on it, and it generates a new one every time.  how can i prevent this from occuring?
[00:25] <uga> that's... where was taht
[00:29] <uga> mountain-linux: can you check /etc/inittab?
[00:29] <uga> at the end of the file, do you have some getty lines for tty2 tty3 tty4...?
[00:29] <uga> like this:
[00:29] <uga> 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2
[00:29] <uga> 3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3
[00:31] <uga> mountain-linux: that means the getty will be run at runlevels 2 and 3
[00:31] <uga> for tty2 and tty3
[00:31] <uga> the first digit must correspond to the tty? number
[00:31] <mountain-linux> there is no inittab file or folder
[00:31] <uga> uh? a second
[00:32] <mountain-linux> just init.d
[00:32] <uga> that may explain, dpkg -S claims it doesn't belong to anybody
[00:32] <uga> mountain-linux: a second. I'll upload a copy for you
[00:36] <genii> uga: I have no inittab yet have all consoles available. I doubt this is the issue
[00:36] <uga> genii: that's what's meant to init the gettys though, they removed it?
[00:36] <uga> I'm pretty sure this box was installed in 7.x from ubuntu
[00:36] <genii> uga: Like I said. Doesn't exist here yet they all work here
[00:36] <uga> and later upgraded to version 8
[00:37] <uga> genii: so what does startup the getty now, then ;)
[00:37] <Jucato> !upstart
[00:37] <genii> There ya go
[00:37] <Jucato> ^^^^^
[00:37] <mountain-linux> uga, is compatible w/7.10
[00:37] <uga> genii: ubuntu still depends on system v heavily
[00:38] <genii> Thanks Jucato
[00:38] <uga> mountain-linux: that's what I have in 8.x
[00:38] <uga> Jucato: genii: bootlog fails working unless you install system v init system still
[00:38] <uga> whoever did the migration didn't do a too correct one
[00:39] <uga> so I wouldn't be surprised to see more of this
[00:39] <Jucato> upstart isn't completely finished yet so I think the init stuff is still there to help transition
[00:39] <uga> I see what now
[00:39] <uga> mountain-linux: how about /etc/event.d/tty2 and tty3 etc?
[00:39] <Jucato> but *buntu practically uses upstart with a bit of sys v init
[00:39] <uga> bit? =)
[00:39] <uga> it still does runlevels =)
[00:40] <uga> gentoo had named levels around 4 years ago or more
[00:41] <mountain-linux> yes, and rc1 -6
[00:41] <uga> Jucato: would you be surprised that even now, it read inittab when booting up?
[00:41] <labud> hi
[00:42] <labud> anyone home?
[00:42] <uga> mountain-linux: each of them should have a list of runlevels to start
[00:42] <uga> mountain-linux: like "start on runlevel 2"
[00:42] <uga> later, respawn
[00:42] <uga> and the instruction on how to run getty:
[00:42] <uga> exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty2
[00:43] <mountain-linux> ok, i'll look at them
[00:43] <uga> you should have tty2 3 etc, starting on runlevels 2 and 3
[00:43] <uga> ie, the files should contain:
[00:43] <uga> start on runlevel 2
[00:43] <uga> start on runlevel 3
[00:44] <labud> i'm not sure where to start   i am having a little trouble installing  Kubuntu 8
[00:44] <labud> .04
[00:44] <uga> genii: Jucato: and upstart seems completely undocumented
[00:44] <uga> real bad
[00:45] <Jucato> in their website? *shrugs*
[00:45]  * Jucato stays away from init stuff as much as he can
[00:45] <uga> this is what I found http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[00:45] <mountain-linux> yes, its in the file
[00:45] <uga> I had missed that link first
[00:46] <uga> mountain-linux: not sure, but maybe you could try running getty manually?
[00:46] <rmribeiro> anybody know if compiz work good with ati 9250
[00:46] <mountain-linux> how is that done ?
[00:46] <LeeJunFan> anyone recommend an app to print photo's on 4x6 photo paper? The print wizard in gwenview doesn't handle the paper size, and editing each one with gimp to print what I want on the right size gets tedious.
[00:46] <mountain-linux> sudo start tty1 ?
[00:46] <uga> mountain-linux: running what those files say, at the end, with exec getty...
[00:47] <uga> getty is a command
[00:47] <uga> similar to 'konsole' but runs on your tty
[00:47] <mountain-linux> ok, getty tty1 ?
[00:47] <uga> mountain-linux: what part of "what those files say" didn't you understand =)
[00:48] <uga> follow the command you saw on the /etc/event.d
[00:48] <uga> it's got more params
[00:48] <mountain-linux> looks like the files are correct
[00:48] <uga> mountain-linux: and those files read getty tty1?
[00:49] <uga> or they even specify baud rate etc
[00:49] <uga> you guys never learn copying in exams while kids? =)
[00:50] <mountain-linux> exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty1
[00:50] <uga> mountain-linux: so run just that (without exec)  =)
[00:50] <uga> if you see errors, it may explain why it doesn't start correctly
[00:51] <uga> that should open a login menu in tty1
[00:51] <genii> Sorry for lag. Exploring my system for some other place where ttys may be defined or organisd but not much luck
[00:52] <Yarcanox> why is adept installer the default package manager? :o
[00:52] <Yarcanox> it just downloaded all the packages I wanted, nearly 900 mb, to tell me that one single package(!) couldn't be installed and cancelled EVERYTHING
[00:52] <uga> genii: it's configured under /etc/event.d
[00:52] <Yarcanox> and everytime I click on a checkbox it freezes 5 seconds
[00:52] <uga> genii: each of the tty files contains instructions on how to run them
[00:52] <uga> and what runlevels to start them on
[00:52] <uga> the only thing they do is running getty
[00:52] <uga> which requests to login
[00:53] <Yarcanox> so why is this program the default package manager? :o I used a lot of them on different distributions, but never used such a bad one
[00:53] <mountain-linux> no error
[00:53] <uga> mountain-linux: and do you see the getty menu there?
[00:53] <uga> in the tty1
[00:53] <uga> the login request
[00:53] <genii> uga: Was just looking at /usr/lib/upstart/migrate-inittab.pl    actually
[00:53] <mountain-linux> did not start. bummer
[00:54] <adz21c> Yarcanox: to be honest your not really gonna get anywhere just complaining in irc channels, your better off putting in a request for a descent alternative (point out it will no doubt need to be qt based since kubuntus kde/qt version of ubuntu)
[00:54] <genii> There also seems to be some issue if running proprietary nvidia driver which interferes with consoles
[00:54] <ThreeFinity> # /dev/sda1
[00:54] <ThreeFinity> UUID=93dc288f-0439-45fb-b505-160dc1bc7645 /               ext3    relatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[00:54] <uga> genii: mountain-linux: I'm thinking it's a graphics problem rather than a tty problem
[00:54] <ThreeFinity> anything look wrong in that line that might keep a partition from mounting at boot?
[00:54] <Yarcanox> adz21c why does it need to be qt based? :/
[00:54] <uga> genii: mountain-linux: maybe starting up the kernel in plain vga mode would help
[00:54] <genii> ThreeFinity: I'm not sure "relatime" is a valid option
[00:55] <uga> mountain-linux: your monitor... is it an LCD?
[00:55] <mountain-linux> This worked, from install from dvd.
[00:55] <uga> ie, a tft
[00:55] <arrrghhh> anyone know why knotes insists on opening my last note or even creating a new one on startup?
[00:55] <ThreeFinity> genii: wow how did that get there? lol i didn't modify that file at all
[00:55] <ThreeFinity> was like taht after I installed lol and now it won't mount
[00:55] <adz21c> Yarcanox: I think the idea is to try keep the systems clean and simple by having as few libraries installed, also by having it as Qt its easier to get it to theme with the rest of your desktop (gtk-qt-engine never quite gets it right)
[00:55] <labud> hi genii   i was here a couple of days ago  with a dvd burner prob    i sorted it out and now can burn with dvd
[00:55] <genii> ThreeFinity: examination of manpage for mount shows it is valid
[00:55] <mountain-linux> when i updated 7.10 about 160 meg of files. the text consoles are gone.
[00:56] <ThreeFinity> when I pick my kernel from grub is says unable to mount partition
[00:56] <Yarcanox> adz21c but better have a working program than a nice looking one o.O
[00:56] <genii> labud: Hello, yes I recall. Was it the bios settings after all?
[00:56] <labud> no
[00:56] <ThreeFinity> but it only just started saying that, the last 5 times I've isntalled since yesterday it worked fine
[00:56] <labud> i had the wrong path in the burning program
[00:57] <adz21c> Yarcanox: it works fine for me, and lots (probably most) other people, i never heard anyone ... till yourself ... complain about its abilities and stability, just usability
[00:57] <genii> labud: Ah. Good to see you sorted it out then
[00:57] <labud> <<<just dumb i guess
[00:57]  * uga ponders installing qingy
[00:57] <genii> ThreeFinity: Is it saying about the partition or is it possibly having something like VFS in the error?
[00:57] <labud> i wonder if u r too busy to help with another prob>\?
[00:57] <Yarcanox> huh now command line apt-get fixes everything
[00:57] <ThreeFinity> says it cant mount the partition
[00:57]  * Yarcanox hugs apt-get
[00:58] <ThreeFinity> It's a clean install, remade and formatted partitions..
[00:58] <ThreeFinity> the partitions mount fine from inside the livecd, just not at boot from grub
[00:58] <adz21c> Yarcanox: yea i usually just stick to apt-get anyway, only time i need a gui is when i dunno what the package or app is called
[00:58] <genii> ThreeFinity: I ask about VFS in the error since it indicates the driver for understanding your hd controller may not be loading in the initrd
[00:58] <adz21c> Yarcanox: even with a usable one like synaptic its still faster to launch terminal and apt-get
[00:59] <genii> labud: I'm mildly busy but if you atate your problem myself or someone else may assist :)
[00:59] <genii> *state'
[00:59] <ThreeFinity> if it was a driver thing it wouldn't mount under the livecd though would it ?
[00:59] <arrrghhh> i set knotes to startup in my .kde/Autostart folder with the .desktop file.  is there a better way to do it that won't cause knotes to insist on opening a note or creating a new one on startup?
[01:00] <Yarcanox> adz21c yes, but synaptic or adept are just better if you don't know exactly what you want
[01:00] <ThreeFinity> I'm mostly wondering why it worked fine for the first 5 installs but now it won't go
[01:00] <Dragnslcr> arrrghhh- I have a symlink to knotes in .kde/Autostart, and it doesn't do that
[01:00] <ThreeFinity> title		Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-16-generic
[01:00] <ThreeFinity> root		(hd0,0)
[01:00] <ThreeFinity> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic root=UUID=93dc288f-0439-45fb-b505-160dc1bc7645 ro quiet splash
[01:00] <ThreeFinity> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic
[01:00] <adz21c> Yarcanox: yea, like i said, i only use a gui when i dunno the package name or app name, otherwise i use apt-get
[01:00] <genii> ThreeFinity: The livecd has drivers which may not be installed into the ramdisk of the installed system
[01:00] <ThreeFinity> Does that look proper for a fresh installed grub menu ?
[01:01] <uga> ThreeFinity: depending on your disk numbering
[01:01] <uga> but sounds like sane
[01:01] <arrrghhh> Dragnslcr, just a symlink to the location in /usr/bin?
[01:01] <ThreeFinity> sda1 = ext3 / partition and sda5 = swap
[01:01] <NickPresta> arrrghhh, yeah.
[01:01] <ThreeFinity> sdb1 = ntfs
[01:02] <arrrghhh> hrm i'll try that thanks
[01:02] <mountain-linux> lcd monitor
[01:02] <ThreeFinity> I set the ext3 partition to Primary and the Swap as logical during partition creation, would that cause a problem ?
[01:03] <genii> ThreeFinity: All looks proper there. But say it begins to load the initrd. Then that doesn't have info on some driver it needs to have in order to understand your hard drive. Fails miserably
[01:03] <labud> ok  i can see that u r   i will come back l8r      but the prob is   i am trying to install K 8.04  on a new machine using the live cd     i used GParted to partition the drive  and the live cd went thru its normal install stuff and it formatted the drive and said install was good  but when it reboots it just hangs [black screen flshing cursor]
[01:03] <uga> ThreeFinity: I think that's safe
[01:03] <labud> it is a sata II drive
[01:03] <mountain-linux> lcd monitor
[01:04] <ThreeFinity> is there any reason it would stop intalling that driver? it installed it fine the last 5 or so times since yesterday. no it suddenly stops installing ?
[01:04] <ThreeFinity> theres not exactly any options for packages while installing :/
[01:04] <ThreeFinity> just region and timezone, then partitions, and it goes on it's own
[01:05] <labud> anyway  thats the prob  but i will pop in l8r  to see if i can get some advice   ty
[01:05] <uga> uhm... firefox guys are very good at unusability techniques
[01:05] <uga> the download manager used to be okay
[01:05] <uga> now the clear list thing is shown only on RMB
[01:05] <uga> and what's worse, you need to select one of the elements for it to show up first
[01:05] <mountain-linux> ok, will start in recovery mode
[01:05] <uga> brilliant minds
[01:07] <rmribeiro> !br
[01:12] <rmribeiro> compiz not work, my video is a ati 9250
[01:12] <Choreboy> Anyone know where I can find a Blackberry channel?
[01:33] <srajput> hi
[01:34] <_CrashMaster_> srajput: Hello
[01:41] <arrrghhh> k just rebooted and the problem still exists with knotes
[01:41] <arrrghhh> i rm'd the knotes from .kde/Autostart, and put "sudo ln -s /usr/bin/knotes ~/.kde/Autostart" - is that correct?
[01:42] <funcrush> I want to modify some option of USB memory stick auto mounting, how I can?
[01:45] <arrrghhh> funcrush, /etc/fstab
[01:46] <funcrush> arrrghhh: hm.. I'll try
[01:46] <arrrghhh> funcrush, that's where all the stuff that mounts on boot lies
[01:47] <arrrghhh> Dragnslcr, is that the command you used to put knotes in your autostart?
[01:48] <el1te> does anyone know how to use pulseaudio
[01:48] <el1te> #pulseaudio is a fucking dead channel
[01:49] <el1te> been in there for a week and no one answers questions
[01:50] <Roey> hey guys
[01:50] <arrrghhh> NickPresta, is that the correct command?  cuz it didn't work.  knotes still starts, but it creates a new note on startup.
[01:51] <Roey> Is there a general release version by which you Kubuntu devels expect YOUTUBE to work in Konqueror for x86-64 systems?
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> Roey: use the 3s bit firefox with getlibs
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> which is how I did it
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> *32bit
[01:51] <Roey> getlibs?
[01:51] <Roey> hey mike
[01:51] <Roey> nosrednaekim:  how do you do that?
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> yeah.... its grabs required 32 bit libraries
[01:52] <Roey> ok
[01:52] <Roey> em
[01:52] <Roey> ok
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> go get  a statically compiled binary of firefox (the tar.gz) unzip it.... then get getlibs (google it) and run getlibs on the executable
[01:52] <arrrghhh> Roey, the problem is not with konqueror, but there's no 64-bit flash.
[01:52] <Walzmyn> How do I make an app load automatically at start up?
[01:52] <Roey> Mike, do you know though when it's going to be supported without us users having to do voodoo magic?
[01:53] <arrrghhh> Walzmyn, add a symlink to .kde/Autostart
[01:53] <Roey> arrrghhh:  the gnash folks say it works for them, so I don't know why gnash doens't work for me
[01:53] <Roey> gnash folkls meaning #gnash devs
[01:53] <arrrghhh> google is your friend btw Walzmyn
[01:53] <Walzmyn> arrrghhh, if there's no 64-bit flash, how is youtube working with firefox on my computer?
[01:53] <adz21c> theres that nspluginwrapper that solves that isnt there? I am using flash in my konqueror
[01:53] <Roey> thunking
[01:53] <arrrghhh> Walzmyn, you're probably using 32-bit ff
[01:53] <Walzmyn> arrrghhh, .... that makes sence
[01:54] <Walzmyn> arrrghhh, thanks
[01:54] <arrrghhh> Roey, gnash is an open-source attempt to run flash
[01:54] <arrrghhh> i shouldn't say attempt... it just didn't work as well as the proprietary flash.
[01:54] <arrrghhh> for me
[01:54] <adz21c> well they opened the format now
[01:54] <adz21c> so hopefully should get better
[01:55] <Walzmyn> arrrghhh, i appreciate that, i didn't know what to google for
[01:56] <arrrghhh> Walzmyn, kubuntu, startup or something like that.  KISS is what i always say.
[01:56] <Walzmyn> right, for some reason, the word autostart didn't come to me until I asked here - that was the magic word that return all the results I needed
[01:58] <NickPresta> arrrghhh, sudo ln -s /usr/bin/knotes /home/YOURUSERNAME/.kde/Autostart/knotes
[01:59] <arrrghhh> Walzmyn, what about startup?  that's usually what i googled for.  there's a handy app that handles all the autostart stuff for you - but for some reason it's not included with kubuntu.
[01:59] <arrrghhh> NickPresta, uh... that's the command i put in.
[01:59] <arrrghhh> and knotes starts up, but it creates a new note every time
[02:01] <NickPresta> arrrghhh, hmm. I don't use knotes specifically so I don't know if that is normal behavior or not. Let me install it quickly and see what's going on
[02:02] <arrrghhh> NickPresta, k... it opens the previously created note on my desktop, and on my laptop there aren't any notes.  it always creates a new note on boot.  it's very annoying.  Dragnslcr said he has a symlink to it and it doesn't exhibit that behavior...
[02:04] <NickPresta> arrrghhh, hmm. I just intalled knotes. I created a few notes and then closed knotes. I then reopened it and no new notes were created. I don't know why it would have different behavior on boot.
[02:05] <arrrghhh> NickPresta, i figured it was the way i was invoking it... i have no idea.
[02:08] <NickPresta> arrrghhh, I don't know. I would ask Dragnslcr when he returns
[02:08] <arrrghhh> k.  it's not such a big deal on my desktop cuz it never restarts, but for my laptop it's quite annoying.  and i love knotes - it's real handy to create quick "sticky" notes with.
[02:09] <Dragnslcr> I have no idea
[02:09] <Dragnslcr> I checked knotes' settings, and I didn't see anything about starting with a new note
[02:09] <arrrghhh> hrm... even happens when i restart the x server
[02:10] <arrrghhh> i'm gonna test a theory brb
[02:12] <arrrghhh> well that's awesome.  i had some "window-specific" settings for knotes.  i deleted that entry entirely to see if it affected it at all... and no.  no change.  still creates a new note.
[02:12] <rascal999> I was trying to setup two monitors, now I'm stuck in 640x320 or w/e, how can I fix this?
[02:12] <rascal999> it says 640x480 is highest resolution (its not) so what can I do?
[02:13] <arrrghhh> rascal999, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[02:13] <Dragnslcr> arrrghhh- you aren't the only one having this issue
[02:13] <Dragnslcr> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/116563
[02:13] <Dragnslcr> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=446743 might have a solution for you
[02:13] <Dragnslcr> arrrghhh- do you have KDE set to remember your session?
[02:14] <arrrghhh> Dragnslcr, nope, it creates a fresh session every time
[02:14] <Dragnslcr> Hm
[02:14] <arrrghhh> and it literally creates a new note - like i don't have any notes on the laptop, and when it starts it generates a new note.
[02:14] <rascal999> arrrghhh: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xor is not installed.
[02:14] <Dragnslcr> Try saving the empty note
[02:14] <arrrghhh> rascal999, that's not the command i gave you
[02:15] <rascal999> arrrghhh: thanks
[02:15] <rascal999> I need to reboot now?
[02:15] <arrrghhh> rascal999, you can just restart your x session
[02:15] <rascal999> arrrghhh: ok thankx
[02:15] <arrrghhh> rascal999, ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:15] <Dragnslcr> arrrghhh- the person that reported the bug to Launchpad said that it only happened if you don't have any saved notes
[02:16] <arrrghhh> Dragnslcr, well i have 4 or 5 on my desktop at home and it still occurs.
[02:16] <Dragnslcr> Don't use ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:16] <arrrghhh> it doesn't create a new note at my desktop, it opens the last note
[02:16] <arrrghhh> Dragnslcr, why not use ctrl alt backspace?
[02:17] <Dragnslcr> Only use ctrl-alt-backspace if your X session isn't responding. Otherwise, logout and restart the X server from kdm
[02:17] <arrrghhh> Dragnslcr, ctrl-alt-backspace restarts the x-server in a hurry tho... i don't see why it's bad.
[02:17] <Dragnslcr> Using ctrl-alt-backspace kills all processes running under the X server
[02:18] <Dragnslcr> You may lose data from programs that killed without being given a chance to terminate cleanly
[02:18] <arrrghhh> Dragnslcr, well of course...
[02:18] <Dragnslcr> It's the same as pressing the reset button on your computer instead of doing a normal restart
[02:18] <arrrghhh> Dragnslcr, i wouldn't go that far.
[02:19] <arrrghhh> it can't potentially damage your hdd.
[02:19] <arrrghhh> which is what you're insinuating.
[02:19] <Dragnslcr> No, I'm not implying that at all
[02:19] <rascal999> arrrghhh: that worked :D but now my computer has gone usa on me, how do I change settings?
[02:19] <Dragnslcr> But you can lose data from programs that aren't allowed to exit cleanly
[02:19] <arrrghhh> rascal999, system settings under the k menu
[02:19] <rascal999> ^keyboard
[02:20] <arrrghhh> Dragnslcr, of course.  i'
[02:20] <arrrghhh> m sure you can lose data with your method also.
[02:20] <Dragnslcr> Um, no, you can't
[02:21] <Dragnslcr> Because all of your programs are given the chance to exit cleanly when you logout
[02:21] <arrrghhh> eh.  i guess so
[02:22] <Dragnslcr> And you should pretty much never SIGKILL programs that can be terminated cleanly
[02:22] <arrrghhh> i think you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.  i was just telling the guy how to restart his x-server quickly without restarting his computer.
[02:22] <Dragnslcr> You're telling him something that could cause him to lose data
[02:23] <Dragnslcr> And the safe method isn't all that difficult
[02:23] <Dragnslcr> KMenu -> Logout, then Menu -> Restart X Server
[02:23] <Jucato> or logout then ctrl+alt+bksp...
[02:23] <arrrghhh> lol
[02:23] <arrrghhh> y'know he left a long time ago
[02:25] <Dragnslcr> Hm
[02:25] <Dragnslcr> I may be incorrect. One site that Google comes up with says that ctrl-alt-backspace sends TERM before KILL
[02:26] <arrrghhh> NickPresta, so how did you run knotes?  cuz when i close knotes and start it back up (from the prompt) it still exhibits the same behavior
[02:26] <NickPresta> arrrghhh, I just ran knotes with no arguments and it restored my previous notes (and no additional notes)
[02:26] <arrrghhh> NickPresta, from a command prompt?
[02:27] <NickPresta> yeah
[02:27] <NickPresta> I'm using the 3.5.9-2 package from Debian Testing though. I don't know which version Hardy uses (or if it even matters)
[02:27] <arrrghhh> hrm... i dun get it.  did you have any notes saved or none?
[02:27] <NickPresta> arrrghhh, it didn't matter either way. saved or not, no additional notes were created
[02:27] <Dragnslcr> 8.04 has knotes 3.6
[02:28] <arrrghhh> yea when i have a note saved, it brings up the most recently saved note on startup.  if no notes are saved, it creates a brand new one on the spot
[02:28] <NickPresta> arrrghhh, that is the expected behavior, is it not? If you don't have any notes and you run knotes, wouldn't it mean you want to write a new note?
[02:30] <arrrghhh> NickPresta, no... not on startup.  if i want to create a new note, i'll tell it i want one.  so is the expected behavior to open my most recent note on startup too?  i guess you would say yes huh... ugh.  i dunno.
[02:30] <NickPresta> arrrghhh, I would wager this is probably an issue of expected/general behavior versus your desired behavior. You could ask in #kde I guess and see if they can tell you what is supposed to happen.
[02:31] <arrrghhh> k thanks
[02:31] <NikLP> anyone help with a screen issue? I have had to tweak the grub settings to get a visible display, but it's only running at 1280 - my laptop is 1400, however changing the system settings just breaks the display.
[02:31] <NikLP> I'm running kU 8.04 inside MS VPC 2007
[02:31] <NikLP> added vga=791 noreplace-paravirt in the grub settings
[02:32] <NikLP> the display comes up but its garbled otherwise
[02:34] <traore> Hello
[02:35] <NickPresta> !hi | traore
[02:35] <alexander_> hi¨
[02:36] <alexander_> Kubuntu guys. My computer doesnt give me the option to set resolution to 1920X1200, just 1600X1200... Even though my 24" can do 1920. How do i fix this? Graphic card seems to work.
[02:36] <traore> thanks
[02:37] <NikLP> am I being ignored because I mentioned MS? :)
[02:37] <NickPresta> !patience | NikLP
[02:37] <NikLP> yes that was a joke :P
[02:37] <NickPresta> :) just in case.
[02:38] <NikLP> I spend about 60 hours a week on the #drupal channels, in case you want to check out how much patience THAT requires...! :p
[02:38] <NickPresta> NikLP, I can imagine :P
[02:38] <traore> I am looking for a good alarmclock for kubuntu an alternative to kalarm i have looked on kde-apps.org and googled extensively but i havent been able to found one so i';; just use kalarm... but recently i still was a ubuntu+gnome user i just switched to kde and i am using the kde panel and i was looking if there is a dictionary applet for the kicker similar to the gnome dictionary applet, or would it even be possible to use the gnome
[02:38] <traore> dictionary applet some help/advise would be highly appreciated?
[02:38] <NikLP> I just want to get learning, but this damn screen issue... grrr :(
[02:39] <NikLP> brb smoke
[02:39] <traore> so my question is: Is there a dictionary applet for kde panel? (sorry for the rambling earlier)
[02:40] <traore> Jucato: :<
[02:40] <NightBird> traore: I know there is one for kde4, but I don't remember for kde3.5
[02:41] <traore> oh i am still using kde3.5 kde4 isnt finanlized yet i thought
[02:41] <NickPresta> traore, I know of kdict, but it isn't an applet. Let me check google really quick
[02:41] <traore> ok ty
[02:41] <NightBird> traore: no program that is being worked on is ever finalized
[02:41] <traore> seems like such a little small thing but i used that dictionary applet so often it' so useful to me
[02:42] <NickPresta> traore, oh wait. Installing kdict gives you a dictionary applet, apparently. Try that
[02:42] <traore> will it remember and store all my previous queries also NickPresta?
[02:42] <arrrghhh> alexander_, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" - make sure to check the desired resolutions.
[02:42] <traore> thanks NickPresta
[02:42] <NickPresta> traore, I'm not sure. I just found it in my applet menu. It appears to remember your previous queries.
[02:43] <alexander_> arrrghhh: it doesnt give me any options... just some text that says it backed up the file, etc
[02:43] <john-charles> where is the default user kept in kde, and where do I change it?
[02:43] <NickPresta> john-charles, which default user, for what?
[02:43] <arrrghhh> alexander_, hrm... try it w/o the -phigh.  it'll take u thru a lotta stuff tho.
[02:44] <arrrghhh> wow.  #kde is DEAD lol
[02:44] <traore> what does kpager do btw?
[02:45] <john-charles> when a new user is created, a bunch of folders such as a Desktop Documents etc.. along with a .kde with the dafault setting is automatically created. where dose that come from and can I change the defaults?
[02:45] <arrrghhh> http://perso.wanadoo.es/antlarr/kpager.html
[02:45] <arrrghhh> traore, that link is for you
[02:45] <arrrghhh> !google | traore
[02:46] <NickPresta> john-charles, user files are in their home directory. /home/USERNAME/ where USERNAME is the user in question
[02:46] <traore> thanks arrrghhh
[02:46] <arrrghhh> np
[02:46] <traore> whats wrong with yahoo ?
[02:46] <alexander_> arrrghhh:  just gave me some keyboard options , etc... nothing about displays :/
[02:46] <traore> why the google endorsements?
[02:46] <arrrghhh> alexander_, uh... what?
[02:46] <traore> D:
[02:47] <NickPresta> traore, it is a generic search engine. You can use what ever you like to search
[02:47] <arrrghhh> traore, encouraging you to search for yourself.  i just googled kpager and that's the first page that popped up.
[02:47] <traore> !yahoo | arrrghhh
[02:47] <traore> lol
[02:47] <arrrghhh> traore, no thank you
[02:47] <traore> discrimination
[02:47] <arrrghhh> dats right.
[02:47] <arrrghhh> cuz look at yahoo's homepage.  and look at googles.
[02:47] <john-charles> I know that. what I mean is if I go to system settings and make a new user and then log in as the new user there is obviously a default somewhere that gets copied to the new user's home, where is that default and can i change it?
[02:48] <arrrghhh> john-charles, a default for what?  NickPresta answered your question it seems...
[02:48] <Dragnslcr> john-charles- I think it's called the skeleton, but I can't remember offhand where to change it
[02:49] <traore> http://search.yahoo.com/ <--- and they had this page before google!!
[02:49] <john-charles> thanks Dragnslcr!
[02:50] <user1> hi
[02:51] <arrrghhh> traore, so?  google is still the best for many reasons.  in fact, isn't yahoo's search "powered" by google?
[02:51] <Machin> can anyone tell me how I can have a different language option at the login screen, like Ubuntu? I seem to remember a package called "something-support-fr"
[02:51] <Machin> fr being the language
[02:52] <NikLP> still stuck with screen issue, if anyone knows...
[02:54] <traore> arrrghhh?
[02:54] <arrrghhh> NikLP, the problem is hardly anyone is doing what you are doing...
[02:54] <elvin> hola
[02:54] <arrrghhh> traore, yes?
[02:54] <NikLP> well maybe
[02:54] <arrrghhh> elvin, #kubuntu-es
[02:55] <traore> :)
[02:55] <arrrghhh> there's some way to invoke the bot and tell him in spanish lol
[02:55] <NikLP> it seems there is mention of a 915resolution tool - anyone know about that?
[02:55] <traore> I am using kubuntu via andLinux :D
[02:55] <arrrghhh> NikLP, it's for intel integrated cards with resolution issues.
[02:55] <NikLP> that's what I'm having - can't autodetect a 1400 screen I *think*
[02:56] <traore> thats why i need to use kde panel D:
[02:56] <arrrghhh> NikLP, just curious, do you have ANY of these issues booting from livecd?
[02:56] <NikLP> haven't tried, I don't have a livecd - just the alt version
[02:56] <arrrghhh> NikLP, hrm... why did you start with the alt version?
[02:57] <NikLP> where does the livecd live?
[02:57] <NikLP> because I'm running in VirtualPC for XP
[02:57] <arrrghhh> NikLP, that still doesn't make sense.
[02:57] <NikLP> not sure if that's a valid answer
[02:57] <NikLP> :)
[02:57] <Dragnslcr> john-charles- I thought it would be in /etc/skel, but apparently not
[02:58] <arrrghhh> not really.  at any rate, where did you get the alt cd?
[02:58] <NikLP> arrrghhh: not sure, some mirror
[02:58] <NikLP> it's KDE 4 on 8.04 afaik
[02:58] <arrrghhh> NikLP, ...
[02:58] <NikLP> kubuntu.org > download > mirror
[02:59] <NightBird> NikLP: the live cd lives in ram when it's started up
[02:59] <arrrghhh> NikLP, yea usually it gives you the desktop (live) cd and you have to seek out the alt cd.
[02:59] <NightBird> or, it gets streamed from the cd
[02:59] <NikLP> yeah I was presented with a list of stuff, I was advised to pick out the alt one for some reason
[03:00] <arrrghhh> and why was this advised?
[03:00] <NikLP> I'd rather not have to go seek the "normal"/live cd at this point if at all possible (3am)
[03:00] <arrrghhh> i never advise the alt cd UNLESS the livecd doesn't work
[03:00] <NikLP> not sure, tbh :)
[03:00] <arrrghhh> NikLP, well i can't really help you then, cuz the livecd lets you check everything out without actually installing anything.
[03:01] <antonio_> hi guys, after upgrading to hardy, i'm experiencing something really odd
[03:01] <NikLP> arrrghhh: right, but how does that affect the situation I'm in - if the live cd works, and I install from there, I'm going to be in the same place, surely?
[03:02] <NikLP> this is all new to me, I'm doing my best :/
[03:02] <antonio_> my battery performance have dropped a llloooottt
[03:02] <arrrghhh> NikLP, probably not...
[03:02] <NikLP> oh how so? :/
[03:02] <arrrghhh> uh... cuz of what i just said...
[03:02] <arrrghhh> "the livecd lets you check everything out without actually installing anything."
[03:03] <NikLP> yeah but what's "check out"
[03:03] <arrrghhh> it runs the complete OS from cd.
[03:03] <NikLP> if I know I want to install it, I don't understand the advantage
[03:03] <arrrghhh> lets you test hardware, see if there's any issues, etc.  the alternate cd is for crappy computers that don't have the ram, or the livecd doesn't work with.
[03:03] <NikLP> it might sound simple to you, but I don't know how this stuff works
[03:03] <NikLP> ah right
[03:04] <NikLP> so I have the shit version then :)
[03:04] <NikLP> I suppose I have little RAM/disk space, maybe that's why I got that advice ?
[03:04] <arrrghhh> well there's 2 installer versions.  the debian text installer, and ubequity (sp?)
[03:04] <NikLP> ubiquity, probably?
[03:05] <Machin> to be honest the main website does a really crappy job at warning users when downloading. First thing I got was Kubuntu LiveCD and my PC couldn't handle it, it kept crashing. I had no idea until I looked up the system requirements myself.
[03:05] <arrrghhh> NikLP, how much ram do you have?  i've never used VPC2007, but can you choose the ram alloted.  that looks correct actually lol
[03:05] <Machin> the system requirements for the LiveCD are higher than the main installation, so it was very confusing
[03:05] <NikLP> yeah I only bumped up to 1GB in my laptop this week - I have 512 allotted to the VM
[03:05] <arrrghhh> Machin, you're right... ubuntu is much better at that than kubuntu.  i always feel kubuntu is 'behind' ubuntu, but i don't like gnome.
[03:05] <NikLP> that's about the max I can afford
[03:06] <NikLP> also very little disk space atm
[03:06] <arrrghhh> hrm
[03:06] <NikLP> only a 40GB drive in my lappy
[03:06] <NikLP> most of which is full, no external storage atm
[03:06] <arrrghhh> i dunno.  i've never had problems with grub like display.  i'd say try it outside of VM
[03:06] <arrrghhh> have you tried wubi?  i'm not sure why you're running kubuntu in vm in the first place...
[03:06] <NikLP> I know what you mean, but I really have to run in the VM...
[03:07] <arrrghhh> ?
[03:07] <NikLP> I suspect that the livecd will work, but obviously then I'll go back to the VM, then same issue
[03:07] <NikLP> I need it to run inside windows
[03:07] <arrrghhh> why?
[03:07] <NikLP> so I can use windows...?
[03:07] <arrrghhh> lmao why don't you do it the other way around?  that's what i do.  run windows inside linux.
[03:08] <NikLP> well that's not an option at the moment
[03:08] <arrrghhh> ...
[03:08] <NikLP> I run a business, I don't have a week to learn all this stuff that way round
[03:08] <NikLP> I just want to fix this (stupid) screen issue so I can see what I'm doing in the VM window
[03:08] <arrrghhh> well virtualbox is awesome.  it runs windows perfectly
[03:08] <arrrghhh> so why do you "need" kubuntu then?
[03:09] <NikLP> that's as may be.
[03:09] <NikLP> Need is a strong word. I am looking to learn
[03:09] <arrrghhh> NikLP, i'd say check out wubi.  you can learn when you want to then, at your own pace.
[03:10] <NikLP> I'm surprised I'm meeting so much resistance, it's just a monitor resolution... (meant in good faith, of course)
[03:10] <arrrghhh> and it's installed just like any other windows software.  removed just as easily (in fact easier than most windows programs lol)
[03:10]  * NikLP googles wubi
[03:10] <word> virtual machine is a commercial product you can get support from them if you -really- need it
[03:11] <arrrghhh> NikLP, well i've never done what you're doing.  so i have no idea how to fix your specific problem.  it just seems like you're going about it wrong.  especially since microsoft probably doesn't want you running linux in their vm software.
[03:11] <NikLP> screw those guys :)
[03:11] <NikLP> don't have the space to run wubi :(
[03:11] <arrrghhh> NikLP, which is why i run linux :D
[03:11] <arrrghhh> NikLP, but you have the space for vm?
[03:11] <NikLP> well there's lots of posts concerning what I'm doing, but nothing seems to give me the answer ...
[03:12] <NikLP> the VM is only 3GB atm
[03:12]  * NikLP sighs
[03:13] <arrrghhh> so you have space for vm... but not for wubi... that makes no sense.
[03:13] <arrrghhh> i *think* you can get away with 5gb... i dunno.  i wouldn't recommend it, cuz you probably won't be able to install anything.  get rid of all that porn and music?
[03:14] <theunixgeek> I'm not getting the KDE 4 artwork, such as the "Poet's Dream", "Leaf Curls", and "Colorado Farm" wallpaper. What package should I install for it?
[03:14] <arrrghhh> theunixgeek, i think it's kde4-artwork lol
[03:15] <arrrghhh> nvm
[03:15] <theunixgeek> arrrghhh: nope
[03:15] <arrrghhh> theunixgeek, kde4artwork and kde4artwork-data
[03:16] <theunixgeek> E: Package kde4artwork-data has no installation candidate
[03:16] <arrrghhh> what about kde4artwork?
[03:16] <Jucato> theunixgeek: you might want to ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[03:16] <theunixgeek> E: Package kde4artwork has no installation candidate
[03:16] <arrrghhh> theunixgeek, i have no idea.  Jucato has a good suggestion tho :P
[03:17] <dennister> what the heck is happening with the inability to download anything? another buggy update? my ports are forwarded, no matter what client I use, I can't get any incoming connections thru dht or any other method
[03:17] <arrrghhh> dennister, probably your isp... cuz i don't have any issue.
[03:18] <dennister> k, will check with them
[03:18] <Jucato> !info kde4artwork hardy
[03:18] <theunixgeek> thanks :)
[03:18] <Jucato> oh must be in backports
[03:18] <theunixgeek> Jucato: ooh, nice idea
[03:18] <theunixgeek> thanks
[03:18] <dennister> just been having other issues lately, too, programs working one day and not the next
[03:19] <Jucato> !info kdeartwork-kde4 | arrrghhh
[03:19]  * Jucato whistles innocently
[03:19] <arrrghhh> ok... it's not really for me.
[03:19] <Jucato> arrrghhh: I know. just telling you it's not kde4artwork :)
[03:20] <arrrghhh> ah
[03:20] <arrrghhh> i was close
[03:42] <fenix> hi
[03:43] <fenix> how to install themes in kubuntu?
[03:43] <fenix> i donwload 3 files of the page kde-look
[03:44] <Jucato> !changethemes | fenix
[03:47] <theunixgeek> how do I get Konversation to not open at login?
[03:47] <jhutchins> theunixgeek: Quit it before you log out.
[03:47] <theunixgeek> jhutchins: thanks
[03:47] <flaccid_> theunixgeek, either close it before logging out so your session saves with no konv loaded, or disable sessions in system settings
[03:47] <theunixgeek> thanks
[03:47] <flaccid_> dang
[03:48] <intelikey> dang ?
[03:49] <flaccid_> pretty much like 'darn'
[03:49] <flaccid_> similar
[03:49] <intelikey> oh a sware, i see
[03:49] <flaccid_> sware?
[03:50] <flaccid_> its a euphemism :)
[03:51] <Jucato> !nickspam | aleboco
[03:51] <aleboco> sorry
[03:51] <aleboco> first time i was trying to register my nick and made a mess
[03:53] <intelikey> flaccid_ odd i would have thought the opposite to be true
[03:54] <flaccid_> not sure why. '
[03:54] <flaccid_> 'my kde crashed, dang'... pretty unoffensive
[03:54] <flaccid_> !ot | flaccid_
[03:56] <intelikey> only the fact that you needed to add a byword to express feeling,  that's all.
[03:56] <intelikey> !ot | intelikey
[04:15] <flaccid_> intelikey, yeah big on the bywords :)
[04:16] <intelikey> me too  :)
[04:17] <flaccid_> gtg
[04:25] <FisherPrice> good afternoon everyone
[04:25] <Penth> Is there a special channel for sound support? I installed Heron last night and can't get sound working in KDE3 or 4.
[04:25] <generacion> hola
[04:25] <generacion> hola
[04:25] <Penth> buon notte
[04:27] <generacion> hola
[04:27] <NightBird> I greet thee?
[04:27] <generacion> hola
[04:31] <generacion> hola penth
[04:34] <kinst> Hi there.
[04:34] <generacion> hola kinst
[04:35] <hagabaka> will hardy or hardy-backports get qt 3.9.9?
[04:35] <generacion> hola
[04:35] <hagabaka> *3.3.9
[04:35] <generacion> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[04:36] <kinst> I'm installing kubuntu from the alternate cd. How would I make all the partitions encrypted?
[04:36] <generacion> hola nick
[04:36] <kinst> generacion: hola. :-)
[04:38] <generacion> hola 3vno
[04:40] <kinst> Is it a filesystem type that I need to set for the partitions?
[04:40] <intelikey> partition type
[04:40] <generacion> hola kinst
[04:41] <generacion> quien habla español?
[04:41] <generacion> hhhhhhhhhhhhoooooooooooooollllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaa
[04:41] <shane2peru> !es generacion
[04:41] <NikLP> !es | generacion
[04:42] <kinst> intelikey: do you know what type?
[04:42] <intelikey> kinst primary dos or extended + ntfs    probably
[04:43] <intelikey> kinst what exactly are you trying to do there ?
[04:43] <intelikey> the partition type is not important to linux   the fs type is   (somewhat)
[04:44] <kinst> intelikey: I'm installing kubuntu on my laptop and want to have encrypted partitions.
[04:44] <intelikey> ah encryption... sorry just out of the scope of my knowledge there
[04:45] <kinst> Oh, ok. Thanks anyway.
[04:45] <intelikey> welcome.    maybe someone that has actually encripted their box can help.
[04:46] <kinst> "Two new features have been added to Kubuntu 8.04 in this arena. The first is     the ability to install and encrypted file system during installation." That is mentioned in the kubuntu site.
[04:46] <intelikey> yes.  but i'm still running 6.6   ;/
[04:46] <kinst> :-)
[04:47] <intelikey> figured i might use it until i needed to reload to fix it... then upgrade,       haven't reloaded for a couple of years now...
[04:50] <BluDog_Anchorite> anyone here on AT&T fiber ?
[04:58] <navetz> can anyone help me with the new firefox 3.0, when I download things it wont let me open them by a default application, I always have to download and open them, any ideas?
[05:02] <BluDog_Anchorite> does it not launch an app period, or the wrong app
[05:38] <styfle> hello
[05:39] <Dr_willis> hi
[05:51] <navetz_> hello
[05:51] <navetz_> can anyone help me with the new firefox 3
[05:53] <mr-t> !ask
[05:56] <NightBird> navetz_: (that means, yes, someone in here may be able to help you with firefox 3, and you should skip forward to actually asking the question)
[05:56] <navetz_> can anyone help me with the new firefox 3.0, when I download things it wont let me open them by a default application, I always have to download and open them, any ideas?
[05:57] <navetz_> when I go to edit->preferences->applications it is blank.
[06:01] <mr-t> you should have some plugins there how did you install ff?
[06:25] <pato> buenas
[06:26] <pato> alguiien  con  ganas de  sacarme  las  dudas? ^^
[06:51] <Dr_willis> !es
[07:25] <noaXess> good morning..
[07:26] <noaXess> i want install ksynaptics but can't.. it is available in adept but no candidate version.. any idea?
[07:28] <iltechie> \o guys ff2 plugin q. .. play buttons on this page http://www.8notes.com/guitar_chord_chart/ expect my FF2 to execute .pl Perl script, any ideas ?
[07:29] <Dr_willis> I thought   ksynaptics  was getting replaced by some other tool. Its a bit out of date, and theres some issues with the new changes to the synaptics driver in the latest X - i recall reading from the   ksynaptics  web site.
[07:32] <noaXess> Dr_willis: aha.. whats the name of the other tool?
[07:32] <noaXess> is it touchfreeze
[07:32] <Dr_willis> noaXess,  you got it.
[07:32] <noaXess> Dr_willis: do you now an plan when it is available in repos?
[07:33] <Dr_willis> Nope.
[07:33] <Dr_willis> aparently the state/status/ of the Synaptics drivers under X - is a bit of confusion.
[07:33] <noaXess> :)).. confusoin is good :)
[07:34] <Dr_willis> not when they change library calls and functions and stuff and dont docmuent it - i guess. :)
[07:34] <Dr_willis> or so i read on that  ksynaptics web site
[07:41] <noaXess> Dr_willis: jep.. i think thats why now touchfreeze is the name :)
[07:41] <noaXess> see ya later.. bye
[07:41] <noaXess> and thanks
[07:59] <matias> a la mierdaa cuantos usuaiors conectados
[08:00] <matias> HolasS???
[08:00] <matias> hello?
[08:01] <iltechie> !es
[08:01] <iltechie> !language
[08:02] <matias> Ok thanks
[08:02] <iltechie> \o guys ff2 plugin q. .. play buttons on this page http://www.8notes.com/guitar_chord_chart/ expect my FF2 to execute .pl Perl script, any ideas ?
[08:07] <Dr_willis> Hmm..i would expect its the web SERVER  with somne perl cgi scripts.
[08:08] <GillesM> hi I have some binary file in my svn server, I got them when I do a checkout and I don't see anything when I modify them and do a commit
[08:10] <tandb> What is the best way to view pdf files in firefox. At the moment I can't.
[08:20] <nicktian> ping
[08:24] <Dr_willis> pong
[08:28] <nicktian> а собирал ли ктонибуть копыто последнее из свн в кубунте ?
[08:32] <matias> ubuntu-es?
[08:32] <matias> como conecto?
[08:37] <foormea> hi
[08:38] <foormea> i'm looking for a download manager that allow multi thread, could anyone please guide me on that? :)
[08:39] <foormea> i'm trying kget right now but it doesn't seem to support multi threading
[08:41] <snmateen> hi guys
[08:41] <snmateen> please help in installing rpm packages on unbuntu
[08:48] <flaccid> !alien | snmateen
[08:50] <foormea> hey
[08:51] <foormea> i'm now under the regular kubuntu hardy (kde 3) ; if i wanna install and try kde4 (with still keeping kde3), i just have to "sudo aptitude install kde4" ? or do i have to do something different or install more packages?
[08:52] <Ayabara> is it possible to do "lossless editing" in digikam. like picasa, where the changes are stored in a picasa.ini file and applied before showing the image on screen, but the original jpeg not overwritten.
[09:01] <b3lt3r> aargh - just updated 32 packages through synaptic and sound is now broken - kmix says "mixer cannot be found".... any ideas?
[09:07] <robf_> ok on installing the mozilla-mplayer firefox doesn't see the plugin
[09:08] <robf_> I searched the web,  but can't find any related problems
[09:14] <b3lt3r> ﻿aargh - just updated 32 packages through synaptic and sound is now broken - kmix says "mixer cannot be found".... any ideas?
[09:19] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[09:19] <doktoreas> anyone knows an applet for monitoring dual core processor?
[09:36] <b3lt3r> sound is definitely broken after an auto update this morning on Hardy.... Kmix shows "mixer cannot be found"
[09:39] <sobbello> hi everyone
[09:40] <isler> hello! how i do install kde4.1?
[09:41] <b3lt3r> ﻿sound is definitely broken after an auto update this morning on Hardy.... Kmix shows "mixer cannot be found" - has anyone any suggestions to resolve?
[09:42] <mr_dd> hello
[09:43] <_2> is there a qemu master present ?
[09:43] <mr_dd> i've a problem since installing my nvidia-card on hardy... it's not possible to user a higher resolution than 800x600 and my xorg.conf looks strange... someone an idea?
[09:44] <_2> how do you get windows to do something besides 640x480x16 in qemu ?
[09:44] <_2> i mean 16 colour is so monocromeish
[09:45] <_2> like black&white teli   ya know
[09:46] <mr_dd> that's my /etc/X11/xorg.conf - http://nopaste.org/p/aldQUuGkY
[09:57] <plut0nash> dwidmann
[09:57] <plut0nash> :P
[09:57] <plut0nash> you around dude?
[10:06] <oilinki> hi, do you know which would be best application in kubuntu to read offline wikipedia pages?
[10:06] <oilinki> would be great if the application would be able to do rsync or similar to update the wikipages as well
[10:17] <Dragonath> I've a problem with booting hardy off my usb stick - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5031126
[10:25] <Briareos> (see http://pastebin.ca/1027782) I upgraded my LTSP box from dapper to hardy; did the ltsp-update-...-stuff; deleted the old client files and created new ones; now i want to boot (a client!), i do not get a login screen - instead the console says the above. Any idea?
[10:29] <xt828_> !compiz
[10:46] <Angeltronix> Hi, I'm having problems with amarok...
[10:46] <Angeltronix> It cannot play Mp3's
[10:46] <Angeltronix> and I have all the codecs installed
[10:47] <Angeltronix> I think the problem is with Xine
[10:48] <Angeltronix> Kaffeine also have problems playing files that require extra codecs
[10:49] <Angeltronix> I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 upgraded from 7.10
[10:49] <Angeltronix> Sysinfo for 'Linux': Linux 2.6.24-17-generic running KDE 3.5.9, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz at 3194 MHz (6387 bogomips), HD: 157/188GB, RAM: 994/1010MB, 131 proc's, 1.1d up
[11:05] <snmateen> Hi Guys
[11:05] <snmateen> how to remove the rpm package installed using alien ?
[11:06] <snmateen> can I give command like sudo alien -e <package.deb>
[11:06] <Dr_willis> Ive never used alien
[11:06] <Dr_willis> I though alien converted rpms to debs
[11:06] <Dr_willis> !alien
[11:06] <Dr_willis> try man alien  for a start?
[11:06] <snmateen> alrite
[11:06] <Angeltronix> snmateen: the packshe should appear on synaptic...
[11:07] <snmateen> oh alrite
[11:07] <Angeltronix> you can remove it from there
[11:07] <snmateen> ok so all the .deb packages installed using alien will appear in synaptic package manager
[11:07] <snmateen> right ?
[11:07] <Angeltronix> snmateen: yep
[11:07] <snmateen> Thanks Angeltronix
[11:08] <Angeltronix> snmateen: no prob ☺
[11:10] <Angeltronix> mmm, can anyone help me with the problem I have with Xine?
[11:13] <snmateen> Angeltronix : where can we get applets like battery applet and whether etc... ?
[11:13] <Dr_willis> I thought that depending on the program/player - many of them had extra mp3 related packages. theres not just a big codec pack for them
[11:13] <Angeltronix> snmateen: for gnome or kde?
[11:13] <snmateen> gnome
[11:14] <Angeltronix> Dr_willis: the problems are only for the players that use Xine as engine
[11:14] <Jucato> libxine1-ffmpeg installed?
[11:14] <Angeltronix> Dr_willis: eg. Amarok, Kaffeine, etc...
[11:14] <Dr_willis> I cant imagine why one would want to use xine for mp3 :) but... if you like it.. heh
[11:15] <Jucato> Dr_willis: because it is was most KDE 3 apps use by default
[11:15] <Dr_willis> I thought for amarok there was a specific mp3 related package.
[11:15] <Angeltronix> Jucato: I have all the codecs available for Ubuntu
[11:15] <Jucato> Angeltronix: Ubuntu and Kubuntu have different sets of codecs
[11:15] <Jucato> what did you install?
[11:15] <Angeltronix> Jucato: yes I know...
[11:16] <Dr_willis> does 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' grab the mp3 stuff? Hmm.. i dont rember ever needing to installing anything else.
[11:16] <Angeltronix> I also have the Gstreamer codecs and they are working well
[11:16] <Jucato> Dr_willis: it does. or else, it should :)
[11:16] <Angeltronix> Dr_willis: yes, I have installed Ubuntu and Kubuntu restricted extras
[11:17] <Angeltronix> using the meta-packages
[11:17] <snmateen> Angeltronix : Gstreamer Codecs are more than sufficient
[11:17] <Angeltronix> and some extra packages from the medibuntu repository
[11:17] <Jucato> snmateen: no they are not for Kubuntu
[11:17] <Jucato> nothing in Kubuntu/KDE uses gstreamer
[11:17] <Angeltronix> yep ☺
[11:18] <snmateen> then you must be trying xine
[11:18] <Angeltronix> actually, the problem is with Xine
[11:18] <Jucato> snmateen: he is having problems with xine
[11:18] <Angeltronix> It's not recognizing the installed codecs
[11:18] <snmateen> well, I faced the same problem when I was KDE
[11:19] <snmateen> Angeltronix :  what you can possibly do is that
[11:19] <Angeltronix> for example, if I try to play a Mp3 file on Amarok, It says that is an Unsupported format
[11:19] <snmateen> get in to preference of the player which you are using and change the engine
[11:20] <snmateen> Angeltronix : you just have to change the engine in the amarok
[11:20] <Angeltronix> and Kaffeine cannot play Avi's using codecs like Xvid or Divx
[11:20] <Jucato> snmateen: there are no other engines supported in Amarok 1.x except Xine
[11:21] <Angeltronix> yes, Amarok currently only works with xine
[11:22] <snmateen> well I had just changed the engine when I had the same problem
[11:22] <snmateen> it started working
[11:22] <snmateen> I dont exactly understand why its not working for you
[11:22] <Angeltronix> this problem appeared suddenly a few days ago...
[11:23] <Angeltronix> everything was working fine
[11:23] <snmateen> then there must be some package conflict in the dependencies
[11:23] <snmateen> in your recent install of the packages
[11:24] <snmateen> you can try removing the xine engine and installing it again.
[11:24] <Angeltronix> but i think it was after an update that xine starts to fail
[11:25] <Angeltronix> I've tried reinstalling the xine-related packages
[11:25] <Angeltronix> and the problem persist
[11:26] <Angeltronix> I've never had problems with codecs conflicts and the xine engine
[11:26] <snmateen> hmmm
[11:28] <rophy> hello
[11:28] <uhriventis> Hello.
[11:28] <rophy> what's the dock applcation pannel
[11:28] <Angeltronix> this ubuntu installation have almost 2.5 years of being running on this machine
[11:28] <Angeltronix> without problems
[11:29] <Angeltronix> now I'm running Hardy 8.04 upgraded from 7.10
[11:29] <Angeltronix> Sysinfo for 'Linux': Linux 2.6.24-17-generic running KDE 3.5.9, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz at 3194 MHz (6387 bogomips), HD: 157/188GB, RAM: 990/1010MB, 127 proc's, 1.2d up
[11:29] <rophy> dock application pannel?
[11:29] <uhriventis> Dock application bar is, when you have it on a place where your running programs go instead of at the kbar
[11:29] <uhriventis> I htink
[11:29] <uhriventis> I've never used it
[11:30] <uhriventis> And I've had kubuntu for 2+ years
[11:30] <uhriventis> haha
[11:30] <Angeltronix> XD
[11:30] <uhriventis> I think you can put shortcuts there
[11:30] <rophy> well i added this pannel
[11:30] <rophy> at it's just a grey coulmn on the right of the screen
[11:31] <uhriventis> Try right clicking it and adding a program
[11:31] <Jucato> rophy: oh that's a useless thing for WindowMaker compatibility only
[11:31] <uhriventis> Or click and drag a program to it
[11:31] <rophy> and what's a windowmaker comatibilty?
[11:31] <Jucato> WindowMaker is a (old) window manager (something like kwin, compiz, metacity, fluxbox, etc)
[11:32] <Jucato> it had something called a dock I think, like a taskbar
[11:32] <Tm_T> yes
[11:32] <Tm_T> has
[11:32] <Jucato> so that panel is for running windowmaker apps
[11:32] <Tm_T> WindowMaker <3
[11:32] <Jucato> oh sorry. s/had/has/
[11:32] <Tm_T> haha
[11:32] <Angeltronix> rophy: yes, that panel is useless ☺
[11:32] <Tm_T> it's not dead yet
[11:33] <rophy> okai the point is i want a dock and i thought this couuld be a goo choice but not workin ..annd that kooldock not very nice
[11:33] <uhriventis> I'm just coming over from debian I tried it out and it was a little confusing to me. But, it ran faster
[11:34] <rophy> not abt the speed abt the way it looks
[11:34] <rophy> the way it stucks downthere
[11:34] <rophy> and enlarge icons
[11:34] <_2> anyone know about qemu ?    how to get vidio higher than 640x480x4 ?
[11:34] <uhriventis> I'm really minimalistic. KDE is almost to pretty for me
[11:34] <rophy> annoying
[11:34] <Angeltronix> well, so nobody have a clue on what's happening with xine on my pc...
[11:35] <uhriventis> _2 sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:35] <_2> uhriventis o.O ???
[11:35] <uhriventis> Add it when you get to the moniter part
[11:35] <uhriventis> In your terminal
[11:35] <uhriventis> or Konsole
[11:35] <uhriventis> brb need to restart
[11:35] <_2> uhriventis oh you mean if i'm running linux in the qemu ?
[11:36] <Angeltronix> It seems that in launchpad aren't a bug report similar to this issue
[11:36] <_2> actually i wasn't.   but that might work.
[11:36] <rophy> and the dock thimg?
[11:36] <Angeltronix> then I'll report it, maybe it can be solved ☺
[11:37] <_2> well time to take the gun for a walk again.   i'll prolly see you fellows tomarrrow
[11:38] <uhriventis> I wonder if he figured it out
[11:39] <pim> I have to type firefox-2 to start firefox
[11:39] <pim> is there a way to create a new bash command firefox?
[11:40] <Dragonath> you can symlink firefox to firefox-2 I guess
[11:40] <pim> ah
[11:41] <pim> what's the command I use?
[11:42] <pim> standard is ls I read
[11:42] <osc> Hi all
[11:42] <pim> but that's for listing directories
[11:42] <Tm_T> ln -s from to  create symlink
[11:42] <pim> oh?
[11:42] <osc> Can't I remove the default packages from ubuntu using apt-get remove ....?
[11:43] <pim> I think you can
[11:43] <Tm_T> you can remove everything
[11:43] <osc> I am using feisty 7.04 kubuntu
[11:43] <pim> sudo apt-get purge package
[11:43] <Tm_T> even to destroy your system ;)
[11:43] <osc> and it removes all kde packages after that
[11:43] <osc> I just want to remove one package
[11:43] <osc> say openoffice
[11:44] <pim> yes you can destroy everything, as long as you have the rootpassword
[11:44] <osc> Howw can I
[11:44] <pim> man lns
[11:44] <pim> woops
[11:45] <pim> Is there a command line search tool in Linux?
[11:45] <Tm_T> pim: to search what?
[11:45] <pim> Tm_T to search for an executable called: firefox
[11:45] <osc> I don't want to destroy everything, just remove open office2.2
[11:45] <osc> Last time I try to remove kate
[11:45] <Tm_T> pim: "locate firefox" or better in this case, "which firefox"
[11:46] <pim> ah
[11:46] <Tm_T> osc: you can remove, no problems
[11:46] <osc> and it removed all packages
[11:46] <Tm_T> osc: it might take also "kubuntu-desktop" metapackage but it doesn't hurt really
[11:47] <pim> hm Tm_T locate firefox just churns out a long list of data and which firefox gives me nothing
[11:47] <osc> ok i have to trust
[11:47] <osc> I'll try
[11:47] <Tm_T> pim: yup, or better in this case, "which firefox"
[11:47] <osc> thanks
[11:47] <Tm_T> pim: ^
[11:48] <pim> which firefox doesn't give me anything
[11:48] <Tm_T> ~$ which firefox
[11:48] <Tm_T> /usr/bin/firefox
[11:48] <Tm_T> interesting, so you don't have the executable then?
 first do updatedb
[11:49] <Tm_T> ah, true
[11:49] <osc> then, locate firefox
[11:49] <osc> it'll give all file paths
[11:49] <Tm_T> locate firefox | grep bin
[11:49] <Tm_T> ;(
[11:49] <osc> if there are any?
[11:50] <pim> locate firefox|grep bin gives me something
[11:50] <Tm_T> what ?
[11:50] <Jucato> (locate db might not have been updated yet though)
[11:50] <Tm_T> true
[11:51] <pim> /usr/bin/firefox-2
[11:51] <pim> /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-2-bin
[11:51] <Dragonath> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5031126#post5031126 - any ideas?
[11:51] <pim> these are the upper two
[11:51] <Jucato> oh
[11:51] <pim> so which one is the executable?
[11:52] <pim> firefox-2 I guess?
[11:52] <Tm_T> both, but /usr/bin/firefox-2 is preferable
[11:52] <osc> there is a problem with hardy
[11:52] <pim> what is the difference between the two?
[11:52] <osc> It can't see samba drives
[11:53] <Tm_T> pim: prolly /usr/bin/firefox-2 is symlink to /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-2-bin
[11:53] <osc> of other servers like feisty
[11:53] <Tm_T> pim: easy to check, ls -alFh /usr/bin/firefox-2
[11:53] <osc> Does anybody tried?
[11:53] <Tm_T> sorry, I don't use sambe
[11:53] <Tm_T> samba even
[11:54] <pim> hm I get: firefox is not installed, use apt-get install firefox-3.0 to install
[11:54] <Tm_T> yes
[11:55] <pim> I don't really want the beta
[11:55] <pim> but thanks for your help
[11:55] <pim> fire + tab works as well :D
[11:55] <Tm_T> yup
[11:55] <pim> well cu later then
[11:55] <osc> does anybody tried remastering of kubuntu?
[11:56] <Tm_T> pim: you can symlink firefox-2 to firefox
[11:56] <Tm_T> "sudo ln -s /usr/bin/firefox-2 /usr/bin/firefox "
[12:00] <rozann> sabà alkir
[12:06] <patsikas> hello
[12:06] <patsikas> can i ask something for superkaramba?
[12:07] <pim> Tm_T Thanks, it works now!
[12:07] <Tm_T> pim: good :)
[12:08] <patsikas> how does superkaramba work?
[12:08] <mattycoze> hey guys; i was wondering what might happen when i install Gentoo on a separate partition; how do i edit the Grub menu?
[12:10] <pim> gedit boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:10] <pim> mattycoze or you can use kate ;-)
[12:11] <mattycoze> kate ftw.
[12:13] <pim> Notepad!!!
[12:17] <mattycoze> pim; can i show you my grubby list :p?
[12:17] <mattycoze> i need to know what to edit specifically for when i install Gentoo tonight
[12:18] <mattycoze> like i haven't made a partition just yet
[12:20] <pim> I don't know much about it, but I think you might just want to have a look at what's already there.
[12:20] <mattycoze> ok
[12:21] <pim> You need a name and the root at least
[12:21] <pim> so the mounting point on your harddrive of the partition
[12:26] <Dr_willis> mattycoze,  i pick one OS that handles grub. and let it be the only os to do the grub stuff. :)
[12:27] <Dr_willis> often  after installing 2 disrtos. i have to  look at one disrtos grub config and cut/paste the proper stanzas to the Other disrtos grub config  - so i have the proper entries.
[12:29] <crs> Is apt-get upgrade enought to update system to newest possible version? Like from previous release to 8.04.
[12:29] <Dr_willis> !update
[12:29] <Dr_willis> I  was thinking the gui/update tool handled a few sprcial cases that just apt-get updating dident get.
[12:30] <amerigo> !PROVIDER
[12:30] <amerigo> !provider
[12:33] <crs> Dr_willis: Thanks chap.
[12:35] <mattycoze> Dr_willis uhh well ubuntu handles grub (i was gunna use ubuntu as a default anyway). and whenver i feld like booting into another distro just switch throught he grub menu on startup
[12:35] <Dr_willis> Yep - i let Ubuntu Handle the grub stuff..
[12:35] <mattycoze> Dr_willis i'm assuming you switch between kernels sometimes?
[12:36] <Dr_willis> I got 3 'disrtos' on the laptop. geexbox, puppylinux, and Ubuntu :)
[12:36] <mattycoze> ahh i see; and it's never auto-configured?
[12:36] <mattycoze> puppylinux is very fast :o
[12:37] <amerigo> Hello dear. I had to buy some web space but I'd like to know what is the best and the cheap... some tips??
[12:37] <mattycoze> amerigo wrong place :p
[12:37] <mattycoze> !offtopic| amerigo
[12:37] <amerigo> where is the right place??
[12:38] <snmateen> hi guys
[12:39] <amerigo> ok thanks
[12:39] <snmateen> i am not able to install applets in the taskbar
[12:42] <Dr_willis> which applets?
[12:42] <snmateen> whether applet
[12:42] <snmateen> weather applet
[12:43] <Dr_willis> some applets appear in the 'add applet' menu. some are ran and just add an icon.
[12:43] <Dr_willis> !find applet
[12:44] <Dr_willis> I dont recall using the weather applet in the panel.  I always just had my browsers homepage set to be the weather channel. :)
[12:44] <snmateen> well i am using gnome
[12:44] <snmateen> you must not have seen weather applet in KDE
[12:44] <pim> Is there a way to: "hard-unmount"
[12:44]  * Dr_willis notes that this is the #kubuntu channel. :)   
[12:44] <Dr_willis> Ive seen it - i havent used it in ages.
[12:45] <Dr_willis> pim,  theres a force option to umount i think
[12:46] <snmateen> alrite
[12:47] <snmateen> is there any way I can get to code of these applets ?
[12:47] <Dragonath> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5031126#post5031126 - any ideas what to do?
[12:48] <Dr_willis> the source code is out there somewhere.
[12:48] <Dr_willis> theres some apt commands to retrive it also. but ive never tweaked the code
[12:48] <Dr_willis> apt-get build-deps (or somthing like that?)
[12:49] <pim> sudo umount -f /media/cdrom0/ is supposed to do it but it doesn't work
[12:50] <Dr_willis> you may want to try 'lsof' to see whats accessing the cdrom also.
[12:50] <pim> I know what is
[12:50] <pim> I'm installing a game
[12:50] <pim> and I need to swap DVD's
[12:50] <Dr_willis> let me guess.. wine and a 2+ disk game.....
[12:50] <pim> Orange Box
[12:51] <Dr_willis> Well  the #wine guys may have some ideas on the proper way to do it. i wonder if  it might be best to disable the auto-mounting features of kde while the game installs.
[12:51] <Dr_willis> cedega had some tweaks in this area. but i havent messed with wine in ages with big games
[12:51] <pim> Hm I'll ask in #wine
[12:52]  * Dr_willis runs kweather and looks  at the weather.. weee...
[12:52] <Dragonath> no grub scientists here? :)
[12:52] <Dr_willis> grub is the kind of tool. it pays to read its very well done homepage/docs/manual :) and  then  start haxoring! heh
[12:53] <Dr_willis> you got a specific issue?
[12:54] <Dragonath> yes
[12:54] <Dragonath> I pasted it a few minutes back
[12:54] <Dragonath> the url
[12:54] <Dragonath> if I started writing it here it would just become unreadable
[12:54] <Dragonath> basically I want the grub on my usb stick to boot the hardy on my sata drive
[12:55] <Dragonath> it can almost achieve that
[12:55] <Dragonath> but then something goes wrong
[12:55] <Dr_willis> when booting from a external usb device. the 'drive order can change'
[12:55] <Dr_willis> the internal hd that was sda. may now become sdb.
[12:56] <Dragonath> yes, but the boot commands that detail where the kernel is found don't use markings like hda or sdb
[12:56] <Dragonath> they have hd0, hd1 ,etc
[12:56] <Dr_willis> a trick is to copy/clone the grub menu entries with incremental (hd#.#) entries  to try them out and see  -  hd0 becomes hd1 and so forth.
[12:56] <Dr_willis> grub does NOT use hda hdb. it uses hd0 hd1 and so forth..  correct. those #'s can change.
[12:56] <Dragonath> I just said that
[12:57] <Dragonath> I'm pretty sure that grub manages to start booting the kernel
[12:57] <Dragonath> however at some point it can't find the rest of the stuff it wants
[12:57] <Dr_willis> the initrrd or root= entries may be  confused. when the drives get reorderd.
[12:59] <pim> how can I kill wine?
[12:59] <drurew_> hey people, is there a way to reinstall xorg.conf without reinstalling my system i have /home on a seperate partition....even if i were to reinstall the  system i think that xorg.conf woud be located in the /home dir....so i dont think it would get written over...any ideas?
[13:00] <ds187> pim: the hard way: "ps -ax | grep wine" and then "kill -9 pid_of_wine"
[13:00] <Dragonath> hmm so what do I do with the root and initrrd entries to make them comply to how I want the system to work?
[13:03] <Dragonath> "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/4a4d367a-cf21-4ca4-87 does not exist"
[13:03] <Dr_willis> Dragonath,  that can be tricky. I recall the 'ubuntu hacks' book - detailing some issues with booting from a usb hard drive. But ive never messed with it. and im not sure what problems stll exist under hardy with doing it.
[13:04] <Dragonath> hmm ok
[13:04] <Dragonath> well the howtos I have found about booting off an USB drive usually have the distro on the USB drive as well
[13:05] <Dragonath> however I would just use the USB drive to point the bios to the right way so it can boot the hardy on my sata drive
[13:05] <Dragonath> I really don't want to buy a new motherboard just because this one can't boot a sata drive :)
[13:06] <farchord> hmmm thing about that though is the usb drive will have to remain in
[13:06] <farchord> and if your mobo can't boot from sata, you got a problem that goes past linux mate
[13:08] <Dragonath> you mean it's not possible to use grub to boot a linux installation that's on another drive than the grub installation?
[13:10] <Dr_willis> i imaghien its possible.. its just that the reordering of the drives is confusing  a few things.
[13:11] <Dragonath> well once I know the drive and the partition the distro is on, then there shouldn't be any huge problems anymore
[13:11] <Dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[13:12] <Dr_willis> but thats not exctly what you are wanting to do..
[13:12] <Dragonath> no
[13:13] <Dragonath> but it seems there is helpful information there
[13:13] <Dragonath> thanks for the link
[13:19] <Dragonath> hmm this seems to be simple
[13:19] <Dragonath> all I need from the USB grub is that it starts the bootup sequence on the SATA drive
[13:21] <pawel> hi
[13:23] <pim> hi
[13:23] <pawel> someone is here
[13:23] <pawel> ?
[13:23] <pim> yes
[13:47] <pim> How can I update my graphics card drivers?
[13:48] <micoh> nvidia?
[13:48] <pim> yes
[13:48] <pim> 8600GT
[13:49] <micoh> hmm.. i think it should be sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[13:50] <micoh> and then: sudo nvidia-xconfg for options
[13:50] <gregor_> hallo... gibt es eine möglichkeit irgendwo in /sys, /proc o.ä. nachzuschauen, ob die verwendete soundkarte hardwaremixing unterstützt?
[13:50] <pim> !de
[13:51] <gregor_> oh sorry... wrong channel :)
[14:01] <crs> what is the difference between remove and purge?
[14:02] <prince_jammys> purge removes configuration files, 'remove' doesn't
[14:02] <crs> prince_jammys: Ok, thanks :)
[14:02] <pim> simply put: purge purges everything, remove just removes the package
[14:03] <Jucato> pim: that's called a circular definition :)
[14:04] <crs> ;-)
[14:04] <pim> hehe, ok :-)
[14:04] <prince_jammys> mine is only semi-circular
[14:04] <NikLP> hi I've got the latest 8.04 and I'm trying to run it in MS VPC, but the video is not working - I have got it to work under 1280x1024 using vga=791 noreplace-paravirt in the kernel boot up line, but I need to get it working up to 1400x1050 (dell D505) - any thoughts?
[14:05] <crs> pim: Thanks, but that is not saying me anything. English isnt my primary language and those words have simmilar meanings in my lang. That is why I am so confused. :)
[14:07] <NikLP> he's saying purge removes everything, while remove only gets rid of the application files - similar to uninstalling a windows app but leaving the app's registry entries intact, I suppose(?)
[14:07] <pim> crs What's your primary language?
[14:07] <crs> pim: Polish. But i do understand now. No worries. ;-)
[14:09] <Jucato> NikLP: Windows leaves more than just registry entries :)
[14:09] <prince_jammys> crs: just to beat the dead horse (or it's equivalent in polish): if you 'remove' a package, and then reinstall it, your old settings will remain. if you 'purge' it, settings are gone
[14:09] <NikLP> Jucato: loose analogy :p
[14:09] <prince_jammys> *its
[14:10] <crs> Thanks guys. :)
[14:10] <Jucato> prince_jammys: not quite. your user settings for that app remains whether your purge or not :)
[14:10] <prince_jammys> i wasn't aware of that
[14:10] <crs> By the way, while I am here. If there is any (k)ubuntu devs in here... i'd to say thank you for a good piece of work. :)
[14:10] <Jucato> prince_jammys: apt will never touch anything in $HOME. that's a policy
[14:11] <prince_jammys> how about 'aptitude'?
[14:11] <Jucato> when I say apt, that goes for the APT library which both apt-get and aptitude :)
[14:11] <Jucato> use*
[14:11] <prince_jammys> yeah makes sense
[14:11] <crs> prince_jammys: aptitude uses apt as a backeng
[14:12] <prince_jammys> so the settings just get removed from /etc ?
[14:12] <Jucato> yep
[14:12] <prince_jammys> gotcha
[14:12] <Jucato> system-wide settings in /etc (or other places the package installs to) get uninstalled when using purge
[14:12] <prince_jammys> makes sense. i always have to remove the dotfiles manually
[14:13] <prince_jammys> with my own bare hands
[14:13] <crs> O, i have got a quistion. :) I made a big list of changes in adept, then pressed apply changes and get error window and I lost my list of changes ;/
[14:14] <prince_jammys> sometimes beating the dead horse brings it back to life
[14:14] <crs> Can i restore it somehow?
[14:15] <Jucato> crs: um.. nope...
[14:17] <ahmed_> hi ihave 2 folders with excel and word files every weak or day i make new files and edit some old files i want to backup thse folders every day or every weak or after every change i made i heard about BackerUpper but i think its for gnome is there any for kde?? whatis the backup for kde
[14:17] <total> hi, are anybody from poland ? i have problem with grub.
[14:17] <google-bot> hello, Is there any problem to run openoffice.org in kubuntu ??
[14:17] <google-bot> !pl
[14:18] <Jucato> !pl | total
[14:18] <total> sorry and thx : ]
[14:21] <Dragonath> can grub chainload another grub installation from a sata drive?
[14:21] <stdin> it can do it to another partition, so why not another drive
[14:22] <Jucato> unless you mean run another grub menu from within an already running grub?
[14:22] <Jucato> hi stdin
[14:22]  * Jucato cout's
[14:23] <hak5fan> Hi all I'm writing this from Kubuntu KDE4 it's awsome :D
[14:23] <Dragonath> right now I have grub on a usb stick, I want to boot off the stick and use grub to boot the linux installation I have on a sata drive my motherboard can't boot
[14:23] <Jucato> wait for 4.1 and you'll be blow away :P
[14:23] <stdin> Jucato: just waiting for qt4 to compile in my ppa, so I'm here for around 2 hours :p
[14:23] <Dragonath> however I can't seem to be able to load the linux installation on the sata drive properly with grub
[14:23] <hak5fan> I know 4.0 isn't rock solid yet
[14:25] <hak5fan> It took some time to get wireless working. knetworkmanager didn't work for me so i had to use wlassistant
[14:25] <ahmed_> hi ihave 2 folders with excel and word files every weak or day i make new files and edit some old files i want to backup thse folders every day or every weak or after every change i made i heard about BackerUpper but i think its for gnome is there any for kde?? whatis the backup for kde
[14:25] <stdin> Dragonath: you can try making a normal grub menu entry but changing the root
[14:25] <crs> Jucato: uu, shame ;/ It should be able to keep that list.. ;/ Maybe adept feature request?
[14:25] <google-bot> Dragonath: There is a room #grub
[14:26] <hak5fan> ahmed_: Keep and resync might work
[14:26] <Jucato> crs: synaptic has such a feature. adept is undergoing an overhaul right now, so I can't really say
[14:27] <ahmed_> hak5fan: wher to get it??
[14:27] <Dragonath> I think I've tried that - I copy pasted bits of the grub menu.lst on the sata drive and changed the hard drive id
[14:27] <Dragonath> I'll ask in #grub
[14:27] <hak5fan> ahmed_: try searching in adept or using the command line
[14:28] <stdin> keep should be pre-installed
[14:28] <ahmed_> hak5fan: i'll try add/rremove programs or senaptic
[14:29] <hak5fan> ahmed_: Yes  in kde synaptic is called adept
[14:29] <hak5fan> It's a little different
[14:29] <ahmed_> hak5fan: sorry man im have to learn mre in linux i like it so much but i was windows user
[14:30] <Jucato> hak5fan: no. synaptic and adept are completely and absolutely different :)
[14:30] <freethinker> HI!there is anyone who can teel me how i change permissions on ubuntu 8.04?
[14:30] <freethinker> i want to copy and paste some files and i cant
[14:30] <pim> sudo cp file file
[14:30] <snmateen> Hello Willis
[14:30] <hak5fan> ahmed_: That's ok... As stdin mentioned keep should be installed allready
[14:30] <crs> How kernel updates looks in kubuntu? In gentoo which I used to use package manager only downloaded sources for you and you had to build kernel by yourself. How situation looks here?
[14:31] <Jucato> freethinker: careful now. where are you trying to copy files
[14:31] <stdin> crs: kernel updates come like any other update, it will show in adept and you just install it as normal
[14:31] <snmateen> Hi Guys
[14:32] <crs> stdin: and it replacing kernel, change entries in grub config and stuff?
[14:32] <stdin> crs: done automatically
[14:32] <crs> stdin: lovely, thanks :)
[14:32] <Jucato> crs: it doesn't replace an already installed kernel. it automatically updates grub
[14:32] <snmateen> When I play songs in player, generally when headphones are inserted , the sound in the speakers automatically stops right ?
[14:32] <freethinker> i am tryingto copy grub from ubuntu to grub of fedora
[14:33] <stdin> crs: old kernels won't be removed automatically, but you just remove the package and it'll update grub and everything
[14:33] <crs> Jucato: ooh yes, I just said that in wrong way, you are right. :)
[14:33] <snmateen> That is not happening here, I am using ubunto gnome 8.04
[14:35] <freethinker> i didnt understand how i can copy files, how can i?
[14:35] <freethinker> or changing permissions
[14:35] <google-bot> freethinker: what is your location or source and destination ??
[14:36] <google-bot> freethinker:  what is the error you get??
[14:36] <freethinker> my source is media:/sda3/boot/grub and destination media:/sda1/boot/grub/
[14:36] <google-bot> hmm
[14:37] <google-bot> use /sda3/boot ...
[14:37] <google-bot> freethinker: just remove the media: prefix
[14:37] <freethinker> but ho i change to boot sda3?
[14:38] <google-bot> freethinker:  media:/sda3/boot is /media/sda3/boot
[14:38] <google-bot> freethinker:  you want to boot from sda3?? or sda1 ??
[14:38] <freethinker> for me is the same
[14:39] <ahmed_> hak5fan: hi again i didnt find keep and resync but i found keep but what is control rdiff- periority mean??
[14:39] <freethinker> i have install fedora, and i wasnt able to enter ubuntu, now i am disable of enter fedora
[14:39] <hak5fan> I've actually never used keep... so try asking someone else
[14:40] <freethinker> i have tryied to change boot withkbrubeditor, but it was the same, ad then  i notice it only change the files from boot of ubuntu
[14:40] <google-bot> freethinker:  so you have ubuntu and fedora installed dual boot??
[14:40] <freethinker> yes
[14:40] <google-bot> which ones boot ??
[14:41] <freethinker> i am on ubuntu now
[14:41] <google-bot> so ubuntu boots okay, but Fedora doens't boot. right??
[14:41] <freethinker> yes
[14:42] <ahmed_> ok mam thx for help
[14:42] <freethinker> i think becuase it is booting from the directory from fedora
[14:42] <google-bot> paste your grub menu.lst file
[14:42] <freethinker> i tryied
[14:42] <google-bot> !paste | freethinker
[14:43] <google-bot> freethinker: also paste the "sudo fdisk -l " commands output
[14:46] <freethinker> thanks!!
[14:46] <freethinker> i think i did it
[14:57] <freethinker> i again!i didn have sucess
[14:57] <freethinker> How i can change the boot from fedora to ubuntu?
[14:57] <freethinker> from hard drive
[14:58] <yao_ziyuan> is it possible to use a gtk style as a kde style?
[15:04] <rafal> #ubuntu-pl
[15:05] <Bauldrick> I killed my system by *remove --purge kde4* - I'm trying to restore as much as I can, whats the desktop for kde3?
[15:05] <pim> let's see
[15:07] <Jucato> Bauldrick: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[15:07] <Jucato> (that's KDE3)
[15:07] <pim> oh :p
[15:07] <pim> ok
[15:07] <Bauldrick> will that install a base again?
[15:07] <Jucato> yep
[15:07] <Bauldrick> will it bring in everything else?
[15:07] <Bauldrick> cheers brb
[15:19] <snmateen> Guys I have problem with the speakers
[15:19] <snmateen> when I play songs and insert headphone
[15:19] <snmateen> stil the speakers are playing the song
[15:28] <crs> snmateen: This is hardware whing. Nothing to do with OS ;/
[15:29] <ahmed_> hi i downloaded RealPlayer11GOLD.bin how to install it?
[15:33] <azzco> ahmed_: try running it form a konsole. ;) './RealPlayer11Gold.bin' I might be wrong on that one thoug... didn't they povide a .deb file?
[15:33] <ahmed_> azzco: sudo: ./RealPlayer11GOLD.bin: command not found
[15:34] <Areinu> Where does kubuntu store information about desktop configuration for an user? Like what wallpaper is chosen, where the KDE panel is placed etc.
[15:35] <azzco> ahmed_: try 'sudo sh RealPlayer11GOLD.bin'
[15:35] <azzco> Areinu: ~/.kde
[15:36] <Areinu> thanks
[15:37] <ahmed_> azzco:RealPlayer11GOLD.bin: 7: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[15:38] <azzco> ahmed_: have you looked at this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=753326
[15:39] <azzco> I've never used realplayer myself so I was basicly just guessing =/
[15:43] <stdin> !realplayer
[15:44] <Areinu> yay, deleting ~/.kde fixed all my problems with desktops! :3
[15:46] <Jucato> Areinu: next time, try not to delete all of ~/.kde/
[15:46] <Areinu> well, it was really fresh so I didn't really lose much
[15:46] <Jucato> ok :)
[15:46] <Jucato> just don't develop the habit :P
[15:46] <Areinu> and when I was just asking how to fix just my problem no one ever knew
[15:47] <kmorrissey_> hi all, anyone no how to mount an sd card
[15:47] <Jucato> Areinu: ~/.kde/share/config/kdesktop actually
[15:47] <Jucato> er... kdesktoprc
[15:48] <Jucato> and kickerrc
[15:48] <Areinu> I'll remember it for next time :3
[15:48] <Jucato> ~/.kde/share/config/  has the config files, while ~/.kde/share/apps/ have the application data
[15:48] <zanberdo> I'd like to write a script that dynamically loads an app at login based on whether or not I am running on battery or not (similar to the way disk checking iwll be suppressed when booting while on battery power).  Can anyone suggest how I might programmatically identify when I'm running on battery power?
[15:49] <Areinu> hmm, thanks. It's good to know :)
[15:53] <vinny> hey everyone how are you all doing this fine morning?
[15:53] <nosrednaekim> good good vinny
[15:54] <TimS> I'm looking for a video podcast program, an alternative to democracy player as it never works for me
[15:54] <vinny> a player or creater?
[15:54] <TimS> Player
[15:54] <vinny> you might need some restricted extras
[15:55] <TimS> It always crashes after it starts up. Its a bug and the only way to fix is to delete all your podcast data. I don't want to have to do that every week and re add them
[15:56] <nosrednaekim> VLC?
[15:56] <TimS> nosrednaekim: Its not a video podcast program
[15:57] <TimS> I want some way of being able to subscribe to video podcasts and have them autodownload
[15:57] <TimS> Like miro does.
[16:01] <hak5fan> Hi again all. I have a problem. It seems like open gl is not enabled on this laptop. It's a thinkpad R52 with intel 915 chipset. How do I enable it?
[16:01] <hak5fan> xserver-xorg-driver-intel package is installed
[16:02] <jhutchins> hak5fan: See #compiz-fusion
[16:03] <Bauldrick> I've reinstalled kubuntu-desktop , but havent exactly got a desktop - no toolbar etc...?
[16:04] <hak5fan> It doesn't say anything in the topic. I'm trying to play extreme tux racer
[16:04] <bdizzle> hi, I was wondering why the sound stops working after my computer wakes up from Sleep or Hibernate
[16:04] <bdizzle> I've tried resetting alsa through command line, but it rarely to never works, where I have to restart computer to get sound back
[16:04] <nosrednaekim> Bauldrick: did you run kde before? you may have some leftover configuration files
[16:05] <Bauldrick> yes i did
[16:05] <Bauldrick> nosrednaekim: should i remove /home/.kde?
[16:06] <nosrednaekim> Bauldrick: move it... just in case there is something in there that you may want later
[16:06] <Bauldrick> nosrednaekim: whatever it is?
[16:06] <nosrednaekim> yes... its ~/.kde
[16:07] <Bauldrick> gotta keep quiting konversation to get konsole back - cant do anything :-(
[16:07] <nosrednaekim> alt+tab
[16:07] <nosrednaekim> and you can open a konsole in konversation
[16:07] <nosrednaekim> windows->new konsole
[16:07] <nosrednaekim> *windows
[16:07] <nosrednaekim> *Window
[16:07] <nosrednaekim> :P
[16:07] <Bauldrick> its ovr the top of konsole and cant move the box
[16:09] <Bauldrick> i have to buttons - options to minimize etc...
[16:09] <Bauldrick> *no
[16:10] <Bauldrick> brb
[16:18] <Shunt> hello
[16:21] <matt_> ok - now my desktop is back the resolution is right, but I have to `scroll` to the bottom by taking the cursor down
[16:21] <matt_> sorry im Bauldrick
[16:23] <matt_> and I cant get into system settings - it keeps crashing
[16:28] <Simonft> i need a graphical app to see cpu useage
[16:29] <marius> hey does anyone know how to use links browser?
[16:30] <pim> Simonft use KSysGuard
[16:30] <pim> You'll find it in the K-menu
[16:30] <Simonft> pim thanks
[16:30] <bartezz> does anyone here use ubunut on a usb flash drive?
[16:31] <Simonft> !usb
[16:31] <Bauldrick> how can i fix this dependency problem? http://pastebin.com/m4b70e974
[16:32] <Darkside> hai, i'm using ubuntu but with kde installed, now, for a while gdm has been starting up instead of kdm, and i've been fine with that, but i figured its probably about time i changed it, so, i tried, kdm came up fine, but i got this error when i tried to login:
[16:32] <Darkside> (EE) fglrx(0): [16:36] <bartezz> thanks very much ubottu :)
[16:39] <alesan> hi how do I install acrobat reader?
[16:40] <alesan> I have just installed kubuntu 8.04
[16:40] <Darkside> use kpdf instead
[16:41] <JOcK[3]R> hi
[16:41] <Bauldrick> my system won't let me install konqueror? I've 122 more packages waiting to set up?
[16:44] <JOcK[3]R> alguien español?ç
[16:44] <nosrednaekim> Bauldrick: sounds like you have some real problems here
[16:44] <nosrednaekim> !e
[16:44] <nosrednaekim> !es
[16:44] <Niteye> how do i convert kubuntu KDE4 remix to the regular kubuntu?
[16:45] <Bauldrick> nosrednaekim: Great isn't it!!  http://pastebin.com/m4b70e974
[16:45] <nosrednaekim> Bauldrick: run "sudo apt-get update"
[16:46] <Bauldrick> nosrednaekim: get the same result
[16:46] <nosrednaekim> ah... I see the problem! :)
[16:47] <nosrednaekim> just a second
[16:47] <Niteye> KDE4 is too unstable and now im stuck with it, how do i convert kubuntu KDE4 remix to the regular kubuntu??
[16:48] <nosrednaekim> Niteye: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[16:49] <Niteye> will this also uninstall KDE4 automatically and when i login ill be in a KDE3.5?
[16:49] <Bauldrick> also my screen is `magnified`
[16:50] <nosrednaekim> run "sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite/var/cache/apt/archives/konqueror_4%3a3.5.9-0ubuntu7.2_amd64.deb"
[16:51] <nosrednaekim> Bauldrick: ^^
[16:51] <nosrednaekim> uhh witha  space between overwrite and /var
[16:51] <nosrednaekim> and make sure it only keeps one % in there when you paste it
[16:51] <Niteye> is that directed at Bauldrick
[16:52] <Bauldrick> nosrednaekim: space after overwrite?? i still get Errors were encountered
[16:53] <nosrednaekim> Niteye: yes
[16:53]  * Niteye tries it out
[16:53] <nosrednaekim> ok... do this then " sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/konqueror* "
[16:53] <theunixgeek> What packages should I install to begin developing with Qt on Kubuntu?
[16:54] <nosrednaekim> theunixgeek: with C++?
[16:54] <nosrednaekim> or with python
[16:54] <theunixgeek> nosrednaekim: C++
[16:54] <nosrednaekim> build essential, and the libqt4-dev
[16:54] <Bauldrick> nosrednaekim: looks like this now ..  http://pastebin.com/m1832bae2
[16:54] <nosrednaekim> you'll want to do qt4
[16:55] <theunixgeek> nosrednaekim: do Qt 4 apps look better on KDE 3 or 4?
[16:55] <Bauldrick> sorry got it now
[16:55] <nosrednaekim> theunixgeek: they look better in kde4... but qt4 is the future so there is no need for learning qt3
[16:56] <nosrednaekim> Bauldrick: you forced it in?
[16:56] <theunixgeek> nosrednaekim: ok, sudo apt-get installing KDE 4 now ;)
[16:56] <nosrednaekim> no no....
[16:56] <nosrednaekim> no need for that
[16:56] <Bauldrick> nosrednaekim: yes, and had to -f install after
[16:56] <azzco> theunixgeek: KDE4 might not tbe a stable desktop right now ;)
[16:56] <Niteye> well i have KDE4 and its as unstable as an emo in the psychiatric ward
[16:56] <theunixgeek> azzco: oh, I like it
[16:57] <theunixgeek> it's fine for me
[16:57] <theunixgeek> nosrednaekim: well, I want the apps to look like the fit in ;)
[16:57] <Niteye> oh no, emos never fit in
[16:57] <azzco> Some are more tolerant than others ;) I'm going to stick with KDE3 at least untill 4.1 comes out
[16:57] <nosrednaekim> theunixgeek: well, you could use QTcurve for both and they will look identical
[16:57] <theunixgeek> what's QTcurve
[16:57] <theunixgeek> ?
[16:57] <nosrednaekim> qt theme for both qt4 and qt3
[16:57] <azzco> QTcurve is a style
[16:58] <theunixgeek> oh ok
[16:58] <azzco> Going OT here but.. is it just me that finds oxygen very unattractive?
[16:59] <nosrednaekim> azzco: no.... not just you :) but I personally like it
[16:59] <Bauldrick> nosrednaekim: thankyou very much, I think I'm back to normal
[17:00] <theunixgeek> how can I completely uninstall kubuntu-desktop (KDE 3), including all its apps?
[17:00] <Niteye> i want to know the same but for KDE4 hehe
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> theunixgeek: don't think you can do either very easily
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> :P
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> and Niteye ^^
[17:01] <theunixgeek> nosrednaekim: so how do you do it very non-easily? ;)
[17:01] <Bauldrick> Niteye: I've just done exactly what you want to do, but had lots of problems!!
[17:01] <Niteye> im trying it out now
[17:02] <theunixgeek> oh, and does libqt4-dev include Qt Designer, assistant, etc?
[17:02] <nosrednaekim> theunixgeek: find what all the dependencies of kubuntu-desktop are and remove them :)
[17:02] <Niteye> after this song ill try to reboot and see if im in KDE3.5
[17:02] <nosrednaekim> or (kubuntu-kde4-desktop)
[17:02] <nosrednaekim> Niteye: youll have to select the 3.5 session.
[17:02] <jdavies> theunixgeek: no, that's in  qt4-designer
[17:02] <theunixgeek> jdavies: oh
[17:02] <theunixgeek> :P
[17:02] <nosrednaekim> theunixgeek: nope. you have to get them separately
[17:02] <theunixgeek> ok, thanks
[17:14] <pim> what's the command for updating a package?
[17:14] <niteye> well it works "partially"
[17:14] <dru> anyone have any good ideas about refit installations without having osx
[17:15] <dru> ?
[17:15] <niteye> alot of the applets seem to be broken and alot of applications are listed twice
[17:15] <malik__> hi there ppl, which one is better option installing realplayer 11 from the real networks site or helix player from repos of kubuntu 8.04 kde4?
[17:15] <niteye> anyway does KDE3.5 have some fancy blingbling effects like KDE4? i like the fade in/out of windows
[17:16] <niteye> and windows getting seetrhough when you drag them
[17:16] <theunixgeek> niteye: if you install compiz yes
[17:16] <niteye> it seemed to be built-in in KDE4 though
[17:16] <NightBird> malik__: if you have the one from the repos, people in here will be more willing to help you out with it
[17:17] <NightBird> niteye: yes, kde4 has eye candy build into it
[17:17] <niteye> maybe thats why it got so unstable he
[17:17] <NightBird> niteye: I've not had a problem with stability in kde4
[17:17] <niteye> mine keeps giving errors, refuses to log me out or reboot and whatnot
[17:18] <dru> im having troule booting a usb stick...since refit went with my osx partition ,i  have no way to terminal boot the usb keys ./bootinst.sh file...neither does the "bootentry" appear in grub
[17:19] <dru> im not so sure as to how the refit installation would work from kubuntu, as it needs a partition of its own to act as an EFI interface
[17:19] <sparr> My HP OfficeJet Pro 7590 printer seems to need the HPLIP driver/backend...  How can I make that work?
[17:19] <malik__> i have to be honest that i dont really like kde4as much as older versions coz i cant customise the things on the panel in kde4 i cant move em around:)
[17:19] <bsuser> hi all im can not come back to higher resolution my sreen kubuntu
[17:19] <bsuser> screen
[17:19] <sparr> malik__: the kde4 panel is not finished yet
[17:19] <malik__> sparr: aaaaaaaaaah
[17:20] <malik__> sparr: aaaaaaaaaah bugger
[17:20] <gxx> what
[17:20] <malik__> that means there is alot of unfinished business in kde4
[17:20] <sparr> there is
[17:21] <sparr> kde4 has a LOT of new stuff
[17:21] <sparr> it will be years before the new stuff is as mature as the things that were in KDE 1 through 3
[17:21] <malik__> amarok is the real reason apart from the efficient help of u guys i am using linux
[17:21] <lucas__> HI
[17:21] <nosrednaekim> amarok is awesome :)
[17:22] <malik__> sparr: yes newly installed applications dont appear in kmenu till i restart the darn thing
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> alot of these things are fixed even in 4.1
[17:24] <BiteyBite> i enabled the desktop effects and everything went haywire, how do i get cube effect in kde4?
[17:24] <dru> im looking for a hydra alternative for kubuntu (im trying to brute force a home server of mine)...anyone have any sujestions short of installing backtrack?
[17:26] <dru> are the repos for backtrack or the software it contains available to kubuntu via apt get?
[17:27] <dru> its slackware, how can i install slackware software in a debian system
[17:28] <nosrednaekim> I have no clue what backtrack even is...
[17:28] <nosrednaekim> !info backtrack
[17:28] <nosrednaekim> !find backtrack
[17:28] <dru> backtrack is a "distro" with alot of "hacking" tools
[17:29] <dru> i cant run in on my system
[17:31] <hak5fan> I simply can't get extreme tux racer working on kubuntu (no opengl) intel 915 gms
[17:33] <dru> shall google
[17:33] <LucasHir> Hi
[17:33] <pim> hello
[17:34] <LucasHir> Someone knows how to mount a partition after redoing it?
[17:34] <nosrednaekim> LucasHir: redoing what
[17:34] <LucasHir> I have changed with fdisk the partitions
[17:34] <LucasHir> but I recreate the same partition for my home
[17:34] <nosrednaekim> use the mount command.... or try systemsettings->adavnced->disks and partitions
[17:34] <LucasHir> but can't mount it now
[17:35] <LucasHir> VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sda4
[17:35] <LucasHir> this is the error
[17:35] <LucasHir> I believe I must recreate the FS?
[17:36] <nosrednaekim> oh... yes
[17:37] <milos> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade 7.04 to 7.10, later to 8.04.... Adept_updater - Version Upgrade, click Next Next Finish, and get ImportError: No module named apt"
[17:37] <nosrednaekim> milos: run "sudo apt-get install python-apt"
[17:38] <LucasHir> nosrednaekim: oh...yes: that means I have lost my home?
[17:38] <Target> Hi
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> it depends... what exactly did you do?
[17:38] <milos> nosrednaekim: But python-apt appears installed in adept_manager...
[17:39] <LucasHir> I deleted all the partitions as the partitions were wrong created
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> milos: what about python-aptsources
[17:39] <Target> Could someone help me? I have some problems installing an ATI radeon 9200 series
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> LucasHir: ok, then you need to format the new partitions
[17:39] <LucasHir> then I redo the partition as before but changing the number of partitions (start/end stays as before)
[17:40] <milos> nosrednaekim: no, that wasnot installed. I am installing python-aptsources now...
[17:40] <LucasHir> but if I format I will losse the data?
[17:40] <nosrednaekim> LucasHir: if you repartitioned it... you pretty much already lost it unless you simply shrunk the partition
[17:41] <milos> nosrednaekim: still the same error: ImportError: No module named apt
[17:41] <server_> for ubuntu gr?
[17:41] <server_> greek?
[17:42] <server_> for greek chanel ubuntu?
[17:42] <nosrednaekim> !gr
[17:42] <nosrednaekim> milos: does the /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/apt/__init__.py file exist on your system?
[17:43] <milos> nosrednaekim: it does.
[17:44] <nosrednaekim> milos: restart adept...
[17:44] <milos> nosrednaekim: /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/apt/__init__.py exists.
[17:45] <Nutubuntu> Just upgraded to Hardy. How do I fix screen fonts so they look nice again and turn sound back on?
[17:45] <milos> nosrednaekim: restart adept? do you mean quit adept updater and launch adept updater?
[17:45] <nosrednaekim> and also... open a konsole, run "python" and then "import apt"
[17:45] <nosrednaekim> milos: yeah... that :P
[17:46] <milos> nosrednaekim> Yes I just tried. Same error. This is strange. I know some  python...
[17:46] <nosrednaekim> Nutubuntu: fonts.... will be in system settings->appearance
[17:46] <LucasHir> nosrednaekim: Even if the partition start and end on the same sector as before you think I lose my data?
[17:46] <nosrednaekim> milos: ok, lets try importing something else from site-package
[17:46] <milos> nosrednaekim> hmm but the launched python is 2.4.4.
[17:46] <Nutubuntu> Thanks, nosrednaekim
[17:46] <nosrednaekim> LucasHir: oh... probably not...
[17:46] <nosrednaekim> !sound
[17:46] <milos> nosrednaekim> m  I think I know what the problem is.
[17:47] <LucasHir> and you know what should I do to access it?
[17:47] <nosrednaekim> LucasHir: no.... unfortunately not if a normal mount doesn't work..
[17:48] <Nutubuntu> Thanks again ... and the bot just reminded me to think about Kmix. . . . checking . . . and in fact that's it. (/me slaps forehead)
[17:48] <LucasHir> Ok, thanks anyway!
[17:48] <milos> nosrednaekim: OK I fixed the problem. It was my local python. I removed it temporarily. Now the eror is different: dist-upgrade.py: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[17:49] <nosrednaekim> XD
[17:49] <nosrednaekim> don't run it as root :P
[17:49] <mani213> whats the command to run emerald
[17:50] <nosrednaekim> emerald --replace
[17:50] <dennister> ok, something is very, very, very wrong here ppl: 2 days ago I had very few issues with my multiple computers, yesterday I couldn't download any torrents on any of them, not with torrentflux, ktorrent, or transmission...checked ISP and we ended up thinking it was the 2wire modem that could be dying, as it was the only common denominator...today, I can finally download torrents ONLY with utorrent, on winblows and under wine...
[17:50] <mani213> thanks million
[17:51] <milos> When running adept_updater, upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10, I get "dist-upgrade.py: cannot connect to X server :0.0"
[17:51] <dennister> has anyone seen this before? when ONLY windows apps can connect to peers? all linux apps can't connect to any peers, and all trackers timeout
[17:51] <milos> run via sudo: "sudo adept_updater"
[17:52] <dru> !security
[17:53] <dennister> methinks its a pretty sad state of affairs when a person has to resort to winblows apps to download :(
[17:54] <nosrednaekim> dennister: thats odd
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> milos: use "kdesudo adept_updater"
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> !kdesu
[17:56] <dennister> tell me about it; been working on the modem/router since 7 am, trying absolutely everything, cause I simply can't afford a lousy $ for a new modem until Friday...and finally winblows works
[17:56] <athlon1> Hallo, I'm trying to use freevo to record tv. But it does'nt work. Can anyone help me?
[17:57] <milos> ubottu: YES it works now! OK, I will remember to use kdesu...
[17:57] <dennister> at least its something...also sad that I'd like to get rid of winblows completely, but it's cases like this that stop me
[17:58] <gokorn> i installed x-sensors
[17:58] <gokorn> and it wont work
[17:58] <gokorn> how to find out what is the problam?
[17:59] <franc> bonjour à tous
[17:59] <Nutubuntu> !fr
[18:00] <franc> thanks
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> gokorn: run it from the konsole and pastebin the error
[18:01] <Nutubuntu> dennister: if some app will connect you can rule out hdware
[18:01] <gokorn> where is it installeD? locate x-sensors wont wind it
[18:02] <gokorn> brb i got it
[18:04] <sparr> How can I use the HPLIP / HPIJS printer drivers?
[18:05] <gokorn> Error opening config file: /etc/sensors.conf
[18:05] <gokorn> Use -c option to specify location of lm_sensors configuration file.
[18:05] <nosrednaekim> !sensors
[18:06] <hak5fan> Hi... I now know that there is something wrong with my Xorg conf which prevents me from getting HW acceleration. Running Thinkpad R52 with intel 1915 chipset. Xorg.conf here: http://www.pastebin.ca/1028047. Can someone please have a look?
[18:06] <agasus> leifdk1978 er du der ?
[18:07] <nosrednaekim> hak5fan: your /var/log/Xorg.0.log wouldalso be useful
[18:07] <hak5fan> nosrednaekim: ok I'l paste it
[18:07] <nosrednaekim> hak5fan: and the whole section "Device" should be indented
[18:07] <nosrednaekim> and the Driver should be "intel"
[18:08] <hak5fan> nosrednaekim: ok i'll try that
[18:09] <dennister> Nutubuntu: exactly...so it's not the modem; it's linux
[18:09] <dennister> or more accurately: ubuntu
[18:12] <hak5fan> nosrednaekim: I'll restart X and see if it worked
[18:12] <nosrednaekim> ok
[18:13] <dontbugme> ok guys I on 8.04 Hardy 64 bit and using 6600 gt nvidia card and drivers....
[18:14] <dontbugme> when I change the resolution using "sudo nvidia-settings" it doesn't save the changes for the user
[18:14] <nosrednaekim> dontbugme: might want to run that with "kdesudo nvidia-settings" but i'm not sure of thats going to make any difference
[18:14] <Nutubuntu> dennister: which p2p app are you trying to use? I only know a little bit but maybe it's the right little bit
[18:15] <dontbugme> is there a separate xorg.conf for the user?
[18:15] <nosrednaekim> no.... but possibly different res settings
[18:15] <dontbugme> ok I'll give that a whirl, cannot hurt
[18:17] <dennister> Nutubuntu: my main client was torrentflux (which uses BitTornado) on one server, I often used ktorrent on other machines as a backup if the server with torrentflux was being worked on/unavailable; since yesterday I've been trying transmission, too
[18:17] <dennister> but torrentflux and ktorrent give me more information as to what's going on...none could connect to any peers and the trackers were always timing out
[18:19] <asobi> where can i find the temporary files for firefox?
[18:19] <Nutubuntu> dennister: what ports does the winapp use, the one that works? and what ports are configured for torrentflux - are they the same?
[18:19] <hak5fan> nosrednaekim: still no luck with opengl
[18:19] <athlon1> nosrednaekim. What i've done is to run nvidia-setting and save it as the current user. Before save, i changed /etc/X11/xorg.conf with 777.
[18:20] <hak5fan> nosrednaekim: shouldn't  there also be a module section where som modules like dri are loaded?
[18:21] <dennister> Nutubuntu: no, they're not the same...all are different, as I do know that much, and I do know how to forward ports, too. what's working with utorrent is the randomly chosen ports
[18:22] <edicksson> hola a todos
[18:24] <edicksson> alguna chica de venezuela
[18:24] <NickPresta> !es | edicksson
[18:24] <nosrednaekim> hak5fan: are you using hardy?
[18:25] <hak5fan> yes, I'm on kubuntu hardy kde4 remix. It's really awsome
[18:25] <hak5fan> apart from the opengl issue
[18:25] <edicksson> que paso yo hablo español
[18:25] <nashk> Hi, I just upgraded to 7.10 and I'm having a problem with kde. I get to the login, I enter my password and hit enter. After that, I only get the desktop without kicker or any menus, just the plaine blue striped background. Any ideas?
[18:25] <nosrednaekim> hak5fan: are you using kwin compositing features?
[18:26] <Nutubuntu> dennister: maybe I misunderstand but I think it would be helpful to configure for the linapp that isn't working, the ports that are known to work in the app that *is* working, testing whether maybe some ports are blocked
[18:26] <gokorn> what is the best program for torrents inlinux?
[18:26] <NickPresta> gokorn, I really like KTorrent
[18:26] <nashk> I was able to start with session safe mode and that does the same, but with a konsole window.
[18:26] <hak5fan> not unless they are enabled by default but I can check.... I think theres something wrong because the grapthic card section was empty
[18:27] <gokorn> is it similar to the utorrent?
[18:27] <dennister> Nutubuntu: yes, that's a good idea, but even with the winapp I'm being told I'm not connectable, even though there are 80 DHT nodes connected and I'm getting speeds of hundreds of kbs/s
[18:27] <hak5fan> nosrednaekim: effects are disabled
[18:28] <nosrednaekim> hak5fan: ok
[18:28] <nashk> Are there any kde logs I can look at that might show what could be taking place. Why all the kde components aren't starting?
[18:28] <nosrednaekim> hak5fan: in hardy.... you shouldn't need an xorg.conf
[18:29] <dennister> Nutubuntu: this is a temporary solution as far as I'm concerned; I now want very much to get another modem for which I can disable firewalls completely (can't with the 2wire) and put into bridge mode with PPOE
[18:29] <hak5fan> nosrednaekim: This is because of the new Xorg version right?. Well anyway extreme tux racer is not working lagging and horrible
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> yes
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> hak5fan: i'm not real good with intels unfortunately... have you tried googlin>
[18:29] <dwidmann> nosrednaekim: in theory yes, in real life however ...
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> ^_^
[18:30] <dennister> i actually had a spare, a nice, simple speedstream, but now can't find the power adapter, so this will have to wait for next weekend when I have some $
[18:30] <hak5fan> nosrednaekim: yes most of the info seems outdated
[18:30] <dennister> and I gave away another very beatuiful, well-cared for speedstream just a few days ago :(
[18:33] <Nutubuntu> dennister: I see - makes sense to me. Isnt it always the way, when you give it away or recycle it, the next day you need it? but never before?
[18:34] <dennister> Nutubuntu: yes...drives me nuts...but anyway, thx for your attempts to help...i came into the channel mainly to see if someone else had ever experienced this, and if there was a simpler fix
[18:34] <nashk> Hmm, kicker doesn't start. Bug if I start with safe mode, I do get a konsole. I typed kicker in there and it loaded. Do you guys know of a log I can check to see why things are startin correctly?
[18:34] <nashk> in var/log nothing looks kde specific...
[18:34] <dennister> go knows there have been a few buggy updates recently, too
[18:34] <dennister> *god
[18:36] <gokorn> firefox could not install this item becouse "install-v20..rdf" (provided by the item) is not well formed or does not exist. please notact the author about this problem
[18:36] <gokorn> i try to install adobe flash player
[18:42] <nith3> Hi, anyone who got the time to help me with Kubuntu?
[18:42] <ubunturos> !ask | nith3,
[18:42] <nith3> Okay thx ubottu
[18:43] <nith3> ubottu my Logitech mx500 dosn't work in my mousesettings
[18:43] <dwidmann> that's okay, we think the bot is stupid :)
[18:44] <dwidmann> nith3: try using the evdev driver instead.
[18:44] <nith3> Hi dwidmann
[18:44] <nith3> :)
[18:45] <nith3> dwidmann: okay where shall i find this file
[18:45] <dwidmann> with my mx300, I switched over to the evdev driver and all of the buttons worked automagically - you'll need to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[18:47] <nith3> dwidmann: do you know how to edit that file?
[18:47] <dwidmann> nith3: with a text editor :)
[18:47] <Bauldrick> how do you chown every file/folder within a folder?
[18:47] <nosrednaekim> chown -R
[18:48] <nith3> kate?
[18:48] <nosrednaekim> kdesudo kate filename
[18:48] <dwidmann> nith3: sure, but you'll need to use kdesu
[18:48] <Bauldrick> ta
[18:49] <nith3> dwidmann: 2 sec. I'm going to install the program
[18:50] <ubuntu> !turk
[18:50] <ubuntu> !turk'sh
[18:50] <ubuntu> !turkish
[18:52] <draik> Hello all.
[18:52] <nosrednaekim> hey draik
[18:53] <draik> How do I obtain GLX for my nVidia driver? Seems that I lost OpenGL as well.
[18:53] <draik> Hello nosrednaekim
[18:53] <draik> !glx
[18:53] <nith3> dwidmann: where can i find kdesu?
[18:53] <nosrednaekim> nith3: use kdesudo
[18:53] <draik> nith3: It's part of the command line
[18:54] <nosrednaekim> as in "kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[18:54] <dwidmann> nith3: you'll need to run the command with either run command or in a shell (ie: konsole)
[18:54] <nith3> åhh, okay thx
[18:54] <nith3> I got the konsole open
[18:55] <dwidmann> nosrednaekim: blackwaltz@terra:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/kdesu
[18:55] <dwidmann> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2008-05-21 03:08 /usr/bin/kdesu -> kdesudo
[18:55] <nosrednaekim> dwidmann: yep :)
[18:56] <dwidmann> nosrednaekim: probably better to use for now ... as hard as I find it to believe some people are still using feisty and earlier ...
[18:56] <draik> !nvidia
[18:56] <nith3> dwidmann: this is what it says:
[18:56] <nith3> "kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[18:56] <nith3> bash: kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[18:56] <nith3> nith3@Nillerspc:~$
[18:57] <dwidmann> nith3: try typing "which kdesudo"
[18:57] <draik> Need to reboot. I'll be back.
[18:58] <nith3> dwidmann: bash: which kdesudo: command not found
[18:58] <dwidmann> nith3: if it outputs nothing then you don't have kdesudo (in which case you'll probably want to use kdesu)
[18:59] <dwidmann> nith3: that's odd
[18:59] <dwidmann> ah, that's why, nith3, remove the quotes.
[19:00] <nith3> dwidmann: okay how do i do that?
[19:00] <wojtbar> sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:01] <NightBird> gah
[19:01] <NightBird> don't use sudo with kate
[19:01] <nith3> wojtbar: here I cant type my pass
[19:01] <nith3> :S
[19:02] <asobi> where can i find the temporary files for firefox?
[19:02] <NightBird> nith3: does kdesu work?
[19:02] <wojtbar> xterm
[19:02]  * dwidmann smites wojtbar
[19:02] <dwidmann> nith3: if you copied + paste , which it seems you did, you can't have the """ in the command or it won't work.
[19:02] <draik> Ah, the joys of the nVidia driver
[19:02] <draik> :)
[19:03] <NightBird> draik: in the good way or the bad way?
[19:03] <nith3> dwidmann: i got that the "" in my copy ;)
[19:03] <draik> None, in the great way.
[19:03] <NightBird> ah.  in the 'I got it to work and now everything looks pretty' way then
[19:04] <NightBird> speaking of which... I saw the ati driver got updated..
[19:04] <draik> This has been an ongoing issue: Links in Konversation opens a new Firefox window with 2 tabs to the same link. Clicking on a link within Thunderbird does nothing. No open windows or tabs in an opened firefox. What do I have to do to get this issue resolved/
[19:04] <draik> ?
[19:04] <dwidmann> ati drives!!
[19:04]  * dwidmann runs away and hides
[19:04] <dwidmann> *r
[19:04] <nith3> dwidmann: but it seems that the rootpass won't work in my kubuntu.
[19:04] <draik> dwidmann: Wow. ATi is making drives now ;)
[19:04] <draik> nith3: There isn't a password
[19:05] <nith3> ahh thats right
[19:05] <dwidmann> draik:  probably an issue with kde's default browser,  .. systemsettings -> default applications -> web browser and fix it :)
[19:05] <nith3> draik: I knew that ;)
[19:05] <dwidmann> !rootsudo | nith3
[19:05] <draik> dwidmann: firefox %u       for the Web Browser
[19:06] <draik> It's been the same since 6.06 or 6.10, can't recall
[19:06] <dwidmann> nith3: also, in other news, when using sudo in the CLI it won't show the password as you type it. It assumes you have mad typing skillz.
[19:07] <nith3> dwidmann: sry, im not so good at this OS
[19:07] <wojtbar> sudo passwd root
[19:07] <nith3> dwidmann: haha
[19:07] <nith3> dwidmann: Okay i will try again
[19:08] <kreib> is it possible to install a system not in / but in /dirname ?
[19:08] <nosrednaekim> kreib: what would be a chroot, yes
[19:08] <nosrednaekim> *that
[19:08] <kreib> but what goes into menu.lst
[19:08] <kreib> ?
[19:09] <kreib> (hd0,3)/dirname ?
[19:09] <dwidmann> kreib: no, you'll change it on the kernel and initrd lines
[19:09] <rewt_> anyone gotten synergy to work with kubuntu?
[19:09] <dwidmann> kreib: instead of /vmlinuz.... it'd be /dirname/vmlinuz.....
[19:09] <kreib> i see. thx. and in the fstab. / becomes /dirname ?
[19:10] <dwidmann> not sure how that would work in the fstab really ....... I've never tried it :s
[19:10] <rewt_> cannot open primary screen: unable to open screen
[19:10] <draik> dwidmann: Am I missing something? This issue arose from 7.10 to 8.04 distupgrade
[19:10] <dwidmann> draik: maybe something in the firefox settings?
[19:11] <dwidmann> kreib: not sure how and/or if booting into a chroot is possible ......
[19:12] <nith3> dwidmann: sry i misunderstood your question with the ""
[19:12] <nith3> dwidmann: sry
[19:13] <dwidmann> nith3: that's okay ... I'm assuming that's what it was then?
[19:13] <dwidmann> nith3: basically, what you're going to add is going to look something like this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d83dd472
[19:14] <kreib> ok, thing is I did a network install and everything went one level below / . dont know if I could just mv everything one level up
[19:14] <dwidmann> nith3: however, you'll need to change the device id part, and maybe the identifier.
[19:15] <dwidmann> kreib: moving everything up one level could probably be done. Worth a shot, and if that doesn't help, you could always move it back.
[19:15] <nith3> dwidmann: but this is what it says now in the konsole
[19:15] <nith3> dwidmann: cd '/etc/X11'
[19:15] <nith3> dwidmann: /etc/X11$
[19:15] <dwidmann> nith3: kdesudo kate xorg.conf
[19:15] <nith3> dwidmann: and a lot more kode in the Kate
[19:16] <nith3> dwidmann: YES
[19:16] <dwidmann> nith3: yess, good it's open, you're going to add a bit of something to that file
[19:16] <dwidmann> nith3: but first, look at your mouse section (just search for one, it's there)
[19:17] <draik> dwidmann: Nope. Everything seems in order.
[19:17] <janrof> hello
[19:17] <dwidmann> nith3: once you find it, tell me its Identifier (this configuration file is really very straightforward .. it's split into sections. In the sections, it goes something like Option "optionname" "optionvalue".
[19:17] <janrof> please help me, how export any all of kontact
[19:18] <dwidmann> janrof: it can export to several formats whence last I checked.
[19:18] <nith3> dwidmann: now it says: Driver		"mouse"
[19:18] <dwidmann> janrof: it's probably under somewhere like file -> export ... but it has been a very long time since I've done it last
[19:18] <pedroc> hi, how can i terminate a fish session in konqueror?
[19:18] <dwidmann> nith3: I know, but it should have an "Identifier" line.
[19:19] <draik> Is anyone else having issues with Firefox?
[19:19] <nith3> dwidmann: okay i'm looking after it now
[19:19] <dwidmann> draik: that's minor compared to what Konqueror 4.0.4 is acting like :(
[19:20] <Freddy2> hi
[19:20] <draik> What is happening with Konqueror?
[19:20] <dwidmann> draik: "text area"s are going nuts.
[19:21] <pedroc> only quit konqueror doesnt help, if i restart konqueror i can still connect to server wihtout asking for passwort
[19:21] <draik> Is there an option to changing the password fields back to asterisks rather than large dots?
[19:22] <nith3> dwidmann: i found the section with device?
[19:22] <Freddy2> when trying to install manually the latest version of fglrx driver something was going wrong (it freezes at xserver startup) and i can't even remove the package
[19:22] <Freddy2> i'm getting this output http://rafb.net/p/vcCyTX77.html
[19:22] <Freddy2> how can i force this?
[19:22] <dwidmann> draik: nith3, there should be a line like this:      identfier "mouse0" or similar, what I want to know is that line.
[19:23] <draik> dwidmann: Huh?
[19:23] <dwidmann> oops, I was shooting off two tangents in my head at once
[19:24] <dwidmann> sorry draik ... I've got no idea .... have you tried threatening the developers yet? (just kidding, of course)
[19:24] <nith3> dwidmann: is that the right one,
[19:24] <nith3> Section "InputDevice"
[19:24] <nith3> 	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
[19:24] <nith3> 	Driver		"mouse"
[19:24] <nith3> 	Option		"CorePointer"
[19:24] <nith3> 	Option		"Device"		"/dev/input/mice"
[19:24] <nith3> 	Option		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"
[19:24] <nith3> 	Option		"ZAxisMapping"		"4 5"
[19:24] <nith3> 	Option		"Emulate3Buttons"	"true"
[19:24] <nith3> EndSection
[19:24] <dwidmann> nith3: there we go, much better :)
[19:24] <dwidmann> nith3: that's exactly what I needed to know.
[19:25] <draik> dwidmann: Never. These minor issues are nothing compared to the constant issues with $Mainstream_OS
[19:25] <nith3> dwidmann: nice one hehe ;)
[19:25] <draik> Ipastebin | nith3
[19:25] <vonte> can anyone tell me how to install synCE because i want to sync my pocket pc with kubuntu
[19:25] <draik> Ipastebin > nith3
[19:25] <draik> Whoops
[19:25] <draik> !pastebin | nith3
[19:26]  * draik has ZERO clue how an "ell" was used instead of the exclamation mark
[19:26] <dwidmann> nith3: first things first, at the very beginning of each of those lines, ranging from "Section "InputDevice"" to "EndSection", put a # at the very beginning of the line.
[19:26] <nith3> draik: which syntax do i have to choose?
[19:26] <draik> !botsnack
[19:27] <draik> nith3: I go with Text
[19:27] <draik> or TextOnly, whichever is there
[19:27] <nith3> draik: okay thx
[19:27] <dwidmann> draik: you were trying to break out of the norm. Congrats man, you're the best :P
[19:27] <nith3> dwidmann: Okay i will try that
[19:27] <draik> dwidmann: Huh? I'm lost now :(
[19:28] <dwidmann> draik: well, that simply *Must* be how that l appeared instead of a !
[19:28] <draik> Ah. Gotch
[19:28] <draik> Ugh
[19:28] <draik> Gotcha
[19:29] <dwidmann> nith3: let me know when you've got that
[19:29] <nith3> dwidmann: all of them?
[19:29] <nith3> dwidmann: done
[19:29] <dwidmann> nith3: yes, that entire section, including the Setion and EndSection lines.
[19:29] <dwidmann> *Section
[19:30] <nith3> dwidmann: yes im with you ;)
[19:30] <dwidmann> nith3: okay, now, in konsole, type "cd /dev/input/by-id/; ls" without the quotes.
[19:31] <vonte> how do you sync a pocket pc on kubuntu 7.04
[19:32] <dwidmann> nith3: better yet, after that, do a "ls -l"
[19:32] <nith3> dwidmann: now it says: usb-B16_b_02_USB-PS.2_Optical_Mouse-event-mouse  usb-B16_b_02_USB-PS.2_Optical_Mouse-mouse
[19:34] <dwidmann> nith3: okay, copy + paste this into the xorg.conf.
[19:34] <dwidmann> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=m1de4b708 | nith3
[19:34] <draik> !bug
[19:34] <draik> Hmmm...
[19:35] <draik> I don't know what I did, but the link opened once. Firefox only opened one tab this time. Half the issue resolved. Now, if Thunderbird can open it's own tab......
[19:36] <dwidmann> draik: thunderbirds clicking of link handling makes me want to cry.
[19:36] <draik> You too?
[19:37] <dwidmann> Yes, for now I'm using klipper actions to do it ... I copy link location, then alt+ctrl+r, and click open in konqueror in the klipper popup
[19:41] <nith3> dwidmann: sry i'm lost right now :S how do i get the usb-b16 line in the xorg.conf?
[19:41] <shadowman> which is most stable kde distro???
[19:41] <shadowman> kubuntu is buggy as hell:(
[19:42] <dwidmann> nith3: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=m1de4b708 -copy and paste that into your xorg.conf ;... should be all you need.
[19:42] <dwidmann> shadowman: are you using KDE3 or KDE4?
[19:42] <shadowman> 3
[19:42] <dwidmann> shadowman: which apps are crashing? Have you filed bugs?
[19:43] <shadowman> kwin crashes, i cannot see my window decorations, I am using crystal default kubuntu hardy theme
[19:43] <nith3> dwidmann: okay thx dwidmann... Thank you very much for your time. :)
[19:43] <shadowman> i cannot file the crash, there ius no bug report. trace says: no somethingorother...
[19:43] <dwidmann> nith3: well, we're not through yet, you need to save and test it :)
[19:44] <shadowman> ant it is not a crash, it just doesnt load, untill I restart kde
[19:44] <nith3> dwidmann: yeah :D
[19:44] <dwidmann> shadowman: might be zombied or something in the background, what app? what happens if you try to run it in konsolee?
[19:45] <shadowman> run what in console? KDE? all windows, no matter what app I use does not have a window decoration:(
[19:45] <nith3> dwidmann: oohh ohh The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:45] <dwidmann> nith3: you did use kdesudo, right?
[19:46] <shadowman> I am running on GNOME>:| untill I sort it out somehow...
[19:46] <dwidmann> shadowman: no window decorations?? That's certainly very strange ... I've never seen that before, could be related to something else, like compiz or the likes?
[19:47] <shadowman> yes, I like to use compiz. maybe that is the problem??? howcome it works perfectly fine in gnome (which i hate because of the apps and because of the FOOT)
[19:48] <shadowman> I installed compiz from a main repo, everything i need, all packages, and still it crashes.
[19:48] <nith3> dwidmann: i think i did, where should i copy kdesudo?
[19:48] <dwidmann> I'm not sure, maybe someone in #compiz-fusion would have an idea on that part shadowman?
[19:49] <dwidmann> nith3: it's basically saying you didn't, I think, it's saying you don't have permissions to save the file because you didn't manage to obtain root privileges
[19:49] <shadowman> thank you very much. I wiill try them. Goodbye
[19:50] <nith3> dwidmann: what! okay
[19:51] <nith3> what shall i do then?
[19:52] <nith3> dwidmann:
[19:55] <emanuel> Hi all. After upgrading to Kubuntu 8.04, all the events I had in Kontact are 3 hours earlier than before the upgrade. Any ideas on this issue?
[19:57] <nith3> dwidmann: have i scarred you away with my noobieness??? ;)
[19:58] <draik> Regarding desktop effects, I felt efficient with Beryl. Not so much with Compiz and compiz-fusion
[19:59] <hancutza> aaa
[20:07] <azzco> Anyone tried connecting a wiimote to the computer?
[20:15] <The_ManU_212> hi
[20:15] <The_ManU_212> is it possible that since the last update hal is "rotten"?^^
[20:15] <The_ManU_212> my filesystems became not mounted
[20:15] <The_ManU_212> but manually it is possible
[20:18] <nith3> dwidmann: Are you there?
[20:20] <d86> i'm trying to create a new raid array. getting the following
[20:20] <d86> root@octillion:~# mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=linear --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1mdadm: chunk size defaults to 64Kmdadm: Cannot open /dev/sdb1: Device or resource busymdadm: Cannot open /dev/sdc1: Device or resource busymdadm: create aborted
[20:20] <d86> neither device is in use.
[20:20] <d86> this command work in any other distro.
[20:23] <pim> Do you use Konversation for IRC?
[20:40] <The_ManU_212> is it possible that since the last update hal is "rotten"?^^
[20:40] <The_ManU_212> but manually it is possible
[20:40] <The_ManU_212> to mount my partitions
[20:45] <nith3> dwidmann: now it works, thx for your help dwid... I had to use kdedu instead
[20:50] <c1|freaky> hi all. i got a new pc and kubuntu does not recognize the soundcard it's a onboard intel hda card
[20:59] <c1|freaky> works now :D
[21:07] <pim> hey
[21:07] <insecto> ?
[21:07] <pim> what c compilers/IDEś are there for linux
[21:08] <SlimeyPete> gcc is the most common C compiler I believe
[21:08] <SlimeyPete> KDevelop and Anjuta are popular IDEs from what I can gather
[21:08] <SlimeyPete> as is Eclipse
[21:08] <pim> okay
[21:08] <pim> thanks
[21:12] <epimeth> I like KDevelop...
[21:12] <server_> For greek chanel of ubuntu?
[21:12] <pim> !gr
[21:14] <pim> How do I untar a .tar.bz2 ?
[21:15] <server_> For greek chanel of ubuntu?
[21:16] <pim> !gr
[21:16] <epimeth> pim: tar -xvjf filename.tar.bz2
[21:17] <pim> thanks
[21:18] <epimeth> nw
[21:19] <pim> it's also on apt-get ;-)
[21:20] <epimeth> what is
[21:20] <epimeth> oh
[21:20] <epimeth> what you want to unzip?
[21:22] <pim> Kdevelop
[21:24] <pim> Can I also compile with kdevelop?
[21:30] <sparr> how can i use the hplip/hpijs printer drivers for my hp officejet pro 7590?  hp-setup cant see my networked printer
[21:31] <c1|freaky> epimeth: i like it too
[21:31] <c1|freaky> pim: tar xvjf <file>
[21:31] <c1|freaky> does anyone know how i can install mp3 support?
[21:31] <bascule> !mp3
[21:40] <tolik> ???????
[21:40] <tolik> ??? ????? ??????? ? ???????? ??????? ? ICQ
[21:40] <legolas> Hi
[21:41] <legolas> I have Ubuntu 8.4 and I want to try latest Kdesktop environment (KDE 4.0.4), is it possible?
[21:41] <legolas> I heard that it has built-in desktop effects similar to compiz-fusion?
[21:42] <Rioting_pacifist> !kde4 | legolas
[21:42] <epimeth> legolas: so does kde3
[21:42] <Rioting_pacifist> you have to install something like kdesktop4 or something
[21:43] <legolas> ﻿/join ﻿#kubuntu-kde4
[21:43] <Rioting_pacifist> epimeth: kde3 doesnt have composting it just has some menu effects and fake transparency
[21:44] <epimeth> Rioting_pacifist: what is composting?
[21:44] <epimeth> Rioting_pacifist: I have all of the compiz stuff....
[21:44] <nosrednaekim> epimeth: compositing uses OpenGl as aopposed to Xrender
[21:45] <epimeth> I'm pretty sure I'm using openGl... how do I find out?
[21:45] <nosrednaekim> if you are using compiz... yes, you are
[21:45] <Rioting_pacifist> its not built into kde tho, so there are some problems when using compiz instead of kwin, nothing major but little bugs that wont/cant be fixed
[21:45] <epimeth> yea, I definitely know about those :-)
[21:45] <epimeth> why won't they get fixed?
[21:46] <milos> I'm trying to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04. I use adept updater. I get "No module named GnuPGInterface" error. Package python-gnupginterface is installed.
[21:46] <shadyzay> hey everybody
[21:47] <shadyzay> I'm having problems with kdebindings
[21:47] <shadyzay> is it the right place for such issus?
[21:47] <shadyzay> in kubuntu of course
[21:48] <epimeth> shadyzay: you probably want to go to #kde, but there might be some people who can help you here as well
[21:48] <milos> I have got "/usr/share/python-support/python-gnupginterface/GnuPGInterface.py", why python will not see it?
[21:49] <milos> I run the right python 2.5.1...
[21:49] <nosrednaekim> I don't think thats the way python support should work
[21:49] <shadyzay> Ok here's my issue guys, hopefully some one is familiar with this,
[21:49] <shadyzay> I'm developing an application with qtruby
[21:50] <shadyzay> everything was ok on gutsy, but when I upgraded to hardy my application stopped working
[21:50] <shadyzay> It's segfaulting
[21:50] <shadyzay> I tried running of the the examples provided in libqt4-ruby-examples, it's also segfaulting
[21:51] <shadyzay> oh sorry it's not segfaulting it's throwing a ruby exception
[21:52] <sorin> hi guys ! i have installed libdvdcss2 ,but i can't see any dvd movie. i mean i can't play any dvd with kaffeine , MPlayer ,Smplayer ,xine . any help ? please
[21:52] <sorin> it works with vlc only
[21:52] <milos> nosrednaekim: I do not understand your post.
[21:54] <nosrednaekim> milos: I believe all python support modules have an __init__.py file..
[21:55] <milos> you are probably right
[21:55] <sorin> kaffeine is showing me : the dvd is encrypted ,please install libdvdcss...
[21:55] <tux> hi peeps i wanted to know how can i configure kubuntu so that when i start it up that it autostarts some programms
[21:56] <epimeth> tux: add a shortcut to ~/.kde/Autostart
[21:56] <tux> ok
[21:56] <milos> nosrednaekim: Unfortunately the python-gnupgiinterface has no __init__.py ...
[21:56] <nosrednaekim> milos: hey.... uhh... you are supposed to have a python version number before the final file..
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> i.e. .... python2.5/GnuPGInterface
[21:58] <nosrednaekim> also... python is case sensitive
[21:59] <milos> It is weird that python-gnupgiinterface is installed in usr/share/pythonsupport, because that folder is not in sys.path...
[22:00] <RuyalarPrensi> ping me plz
[22:00] <epimeth> !pinf
[22:00] <epimeth> !ping
[22:00] <RuyalarPrensi> !ping
[22:01] <milos> nosrednaekim: the main problem is that no __init__.py is in the python-gnupginterface package.
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> actually, not neccesarily... alot of these do not have __init__'s
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> I was wrong :P
[22:04] <azzco> How do I add icons to a command, like starting a program from alt+f2 pops up an icon..
[22:07] <ross> newbie question: How big should I make my swap partition for a new kubuntu installation?
[22:08] <milos> ross: twice your RAM.
[22:08] <ross> milos: Thanks!
[22:10] <ross_> newbie question: How big should I make my swap partition on a new partition?
[22:10] <ross_> newbie question: How big should I make my swap partition on a new installation--I mean
[22:11] <bascule> ?
[22:12] <milos> ross_: twice your RAM.
[22:12] <milos> unless you have 2GB RAM or more.
[22:12] <ross_> milos: Thank you again--I thought this was a different channel :(
[22:12] <ross_> I 4GB, what then?
[22:13] <milos> And why ask the same question again on a different channel?
[22:13] <JOSE> HOLA MMAGUEVOS
[22:13] <ross_> Its a lot of work setting this thing up, I was looking for more than one opinion
[22:13] <milos> ross_: With 4GB of RAM, you need no swap at all.
[22:14] <JOSE> FOKIUN
[22:15] <JOSE> DO YOU SPEAKING SPANI?
[22:15] <ross_> milos: I'm struggling with whether or not I should put one in as a safety net, or is that complete nonsense?
[22:15] <roberto> !es
[22:16] <crimsun> if you plan to use suspend-to-disk, you must have some disk space set aside.
[22:16] <milos> ross_: It is hard to imagine a software that would eat more than 4GB of RAM on Linux. On Windows its different perhaps.
[22:16] <crimsun> whether that disk space is a swap partition or a swap file, ...
[22:17] <Frederick> folks is there any tool in ubuntu which can edit my mounting points for me so I don't need to write fstab by hand?
[22:17] <ross_> milos: I think my system only sees 3GB though, I'm running ubuntu, and that's what the system tools report.
[22:17] <crimsun> milos: 4 GB for most desktop users is likely adequate.  I know for a fact that 4 GB is utterly inadequate for my workloads.
[22:17] <milos> I have 1.5 GB, run lots of hungry GUI programs for two users, my swap is never used.
[22:18] <ross_> I'm seeing that too, but I'm just trying to error in the right direction, so I don't have to rebuild for a long time (I hope)
[22:18] <milos> ross: Then make a 8GB swap
[22:18] <rmribeiro> !br
[22:19] <ross_> right now, my KDE System Guard reports:  Swap: 39,016 KB used,  3,190,008 KB free
[22:19] <ross_> so it seems like I'm using the swap space a little
[22:19] <ross_> I've got a really big synch process going right now thoug
[22:19] <ross_> trying to backup everything before I wipe it all out
[22:19] <milos> ross: there is always this kind of small usage. It means nothing.
[22:20] <Darlok_Williams> My motherboard has a "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE controller" and I need to install an older IDE hard drive.  But hooking up the hard drive to that PIDE port still doesn't make BIOS recognize the hard drive.  Any ideas?
[22:20] <SSJ_GZ> ross_: Sometimes there's some overspill where a little swap is used even though there's massive amounts of RAM unused.
[22:21] <ross_> So what you're saying is, "if I had no swap space allocated, it would probably just keep it in ram"?
[22:21] <SSJ_GZ> ross_: Very likely.
[22:22] <ross_> I'm just a little gun-shy yet--I wish I had a really rock-solid plan to follow before I pull the trigger and reformat
[22:22] <ross_> maybe it doesn't exist
[22:22] <epimeth> lol
[22:22] <epimeth> it does
[22:22] <epimeth> its called "pull the trigger and reformat" :-)
[22:23] <ross_> epimeth: LOL
[22:23] <milos> ross_: you are over-planning. Over-engineering.
[22:23] <ross_> milos: I'm sure you are right, I could probably do everything I need to do on my HP calculator :
[22:24] <JOSEITO> HOLA
[22:24] <JOSEITO> HABLAN ESAÑOL
[22:24] <ross_> HOLA
[22:24] <SSJ_GZ> ross_: You can always make a swap file later on (without re-partitioning) if it turns out you haven't allocated enough swap.
[22:24] <JOSEITO> HI
[22:24] <JOSEITO>  <SSJ_GZ>
[22:25] <JOSEITO> HI  <SSJ_GZ>  YOU TIENE MSN
[22:25] <ross_> Well, while I'm at it, I'm kind of thinking of using ext3 file format for almost everything else, would you agree with that?
[22:25] <SSJ_GZ> !es > JOSEITO
[22:25] <SSJ_GZ> ross_: I always use ext3, personally.
[22:26] <ross_> I'm not trying to over-engineer, its just that although I'm really impressed with Linux, I just don't know much about Linux
[22:26] <JOSEITO> I NOT SPEAKING INGLES .
[22:26] <ross_> NO HABLA ESANOL
[22:26] <ross_> POQITO
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> SSJ_GZ: hey.... when can I get my hands on that 4.1 VM image? :P
[22:27] <SSJ_GZ> nosrednaekim: Hopefully within the next couple of days - it's a long weekend here :)
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> yes... it is :)
[22:27] <JOSEITO> Y ROSS TIENES MSN
[22:27] <ross_> ross.ylitalo@gmail.com
[22:28] <ross_> MSN account
[22:28] <SSJ_GZ> nosrednaekim: The base image is now complete (760MB compressed, though! :O)) but needs update-testing and backtrace-generation-testing.
[22:28] <ross_> But I really don't know Spanish
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> SSJ_GZ: any way at all that it could be converted into a native installation?
[22:28] <nash> I'm trying to install 8.10 from a live cd I just burned and it's just stuck there at the startup menu. Any ideas how I can debug this?
[22:28] <ross_> I picked up a little when I worked in Chicago, back in the late 70's
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> ross_: don't feed the troll...
[22:29] <SSJ_GZ> nosrednaekim: Yep - someone actually did this with the original KDE4Daily.  I'll see if I can find the link ...
[22:29] <ross_> nosrednaekim: what do you mean?
[22:29] <ross_> nosrednaekim: has the guy been a pain?
[22:29] <nash> Test memory, check cd, all these things just do nothing except make the hd work hard...
[22:29] <nosrednaekim> ross_: joseito is a troll, someone who just comes on to annoy others (at least thats the way it looks)
[22:30] <JOSEITO> ROSS NOT TIENES HOMAIL.
[22:30] <SSJ_GZ> nosrednaekim: http://tonyducrocq.free.fr/dotclear/index.php?2007/12/03/6-howto-launch-kde4daily-in-a-chroot
[22:30] <ross_> DESPENSIME JOSEITO, NO HABLA ESPANOL
[22:30] <Darlok_Williams> Is my old IDE hard drive compatible with the PIDE slot in my new computer?
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> Darlok_Williams: probably
[22:31] <nosrednaekim> if the cable fits... it is :P
[22:31] <ross_> I believe I have an older IDE drive on a PIDE bus
[22:31] <Darlok_Williams> nosrednaekim: Well, it fits just fine, but BIOS doesn't recognize it.
[22:31] <ross_> The thing I'm not sure about, is how old the drive is
[22:32] <ross_> maybe you need a BIOS upgrade
[22:33] <Darlok_Williams> ross_: Well, it isn't an ancient drive, but the new computer has 4 SATA slots (New HD connected to SATA 1, a DVD drive on SATA 2, and another HD on SATA 3).
[22:33] <Darlok_Williams> I have no experience with SATA, really.
[22:33] <nashk> I'm trying to reinstall Kubuntu 8.1 from live cd, but whever I try "Try Kubuntu" or "Install Kubuntu", it just freezes there with high hd activity. Any ideas what I can try?
[22:33] <JOSEITO> HOLA I AM CALLED JOSE WHO OF YOU HAS HOTMAIL'S MAIL
[22:33] <ross_> Darlok_Williams: I'm guessing we've got some things in common:  I'm running an 80 gb ide, an 80 gb sata, and a 750 gb sata
[22:34] <Jack_Sparrow> JOSEITO Please lose the caps
[22:34] <ross_> Darlok_Williams: and I'm sure my ide is on the pide bus
[22:34] <ross_> I'm no wiz with hardware by any means, but I think the drive is an eide
[22:34] <Darlok_Williams> ross_: Hmm... that is strange then.  My BIOS also claims that the hard drive plugged into SATA 1 is "drive 3" and the one on SATA 3 is "drive 1"  ... no idea why the IDE drive doesn't show up.
[22:35] <ross_> Not sure either
[22:35] <nosrednaekim> Darlok_Williams: is the IDE drive in master mode?
[22:35] <Darlok_Williams> ross_: Yeah, mine is an EIDE.  It was my old /home/ drive and I need to get stuff off of it (my other mobo fried)
[22:35] <ross_> is your dvd drive on the pide?
[22:35] <Darlok_Williams> nosrednaekim: No idea.
[22:35] <JOSEITO> ?
[22:35] <ross_> my ide and dvd are on the same cable
[22:35] <ross_> terminated on the dvd
[22:35] <Darlok_Williams> ross_: If I remember right when I opened the case, I thought my DVD drive was plugged into SATA 2.
[22:36] <nosrednaekim> Darlok_Williams: if its not in master, and there is no other disk on the bus, it won't show up
[22:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !ops
[22:36] <Darlok_Williams> nosrednaekim: Ah... then I'd bet it isn't.  It was a secondary drive before.
[22:36] <nosrednaekim> ya... thats the problem then
[22:37] <Darlok_Williams> nosrednaekim: You wouldn't happen to know what jumper position I need to put it in, do you?  Or should the drive have that written on it?
[22:37] <ross_> Darlok_Williams: I'm really not a good resource for these kind of problems, although I wish I could help
[22:37] <JOSEITO> O?
[22:37] <JOSEITO> ?
[22:37] <Darlok_Williams> ross_: I appreciate it either way :)
[22:37] <NickPresta> !es | JOSEITO
[22:37] <nosrednaekim> Darlok_Williams: the drive should have it written on it, but if it doesn't, just pull all the jumpers out
[22:37] <Darlok_Williams> I'm sick of Vista and I've only been using it for a half hour
[22:37] <Darlok_Williams> nosrednaekim: Alright... will give that a shot.  Thank you!
[22:38] <jey_> hello everyone
[22:38] <JOSEITO> THEY LOOK GIRLS HAVE HOTMAIL AND CHAMBER(CAMERA)
[22:38] <nixternal> bye
[22:38] <nosrednaekim> hello jey_
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> thanks nixternal
[22:40] <jey_> hello
[22:40] <nosrednaekim> ross_:  BTW... did you have a problem?
[22:42] <jey_> sorry for disturbing
[22:42] <nosrednaekim> no problem  jey_... did you have a problem?
[22:42] <jey_> is there a same channel in french?
[22:42] <nosrednaekim> !fr
[22:42] <jey_> Thanks Merci
[22:50] <GWillakers> Has anyone else had X crash while playing videos?
[22:51] <fra> Hi all
[22:51] <GWillakers> (w hardy)
[22:51] <fra> I need help :)
[22:51] <nosrednaekim> GWillakers: are you using compiz?
[22:51] <jey_> fr Understood!
[22:51] <jey_> bye
[22:51] <GWillakers> happened when I wasn't
[22:51] <nosrednaekim> whats wrong fra?
[22:51] <fra> Someone can tell me how should I set my knoversation ircprogram to join quakenet??
[22:51] <fra> :)
[22:51] <fra> Man, alls, i ve got very big problem to arrive here xD
[22:52] <fra> I ve ubuntu since this morning!
[22:52] <fra> But i sure to be mad in any minutes if anyone wont help me :(
[22:52] <nosrednaekim> File->server list
[22:52] <fra> nosrednaekim:  you can help me??^^
[22:52] <fra> Server list?
[22:53] <fra> There is the perform setting or similiar??
[22:53] <fra> :)
[22:53] <nosrednaekim> what?
[22:53] <fra> (..mmh..in my server list there s not like quakenet xD)
[22:53] <fra> Perform: something that u can decide to do when u open IRC
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> add a server....
[22:54] <fra> Dont remember the setting s port
[22:54] <fra> :S
[22:54] <fra> :'(
[22:55] <fra> is there an help?? :)
[22:55] <fra> Like #help chan
[22:55] <fra> !?
[22:55] <nosrednaekim> I don't know... but google quakenet, and they should have a port number
[22:55] <fra> :o
[22:55] <fra> TY!
[22:56] <fra> (me stupid cause i didnt think it :P)
[22:57] <drbobb> hey folks, hope you don't mind me airing a little hardware-related problem
[22:57] <drbobb> kubuntu is failing to attach my portable player on usb as a storage device, xp does it fine
[22:58] <drbobb> it's a pentagram eon cineo
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> wow,... never head of that b4
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> is it an MTP device?
[22:59] <drbobb> what's an MTP?
[23:00] <nosrednaekim> Media Transfer Protocol
[23:01] <drbobb> just a min., i'll show you the exact device
[23:01] <nosrednaekim> its a M$
[23:01] <drbobb> http://www.pentagram.eu/products/MP3-PMP/Eon-series/pentagram_eon_cineo_p_5116
[23:02] <drbobb> windows seems to support it as a plain usb mass storage device
[23:02] <drbobb> no media player crap involved
[23:02] <drbobb> no drivers to install
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> haha... says it supports Linux :P
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> what does dmesg say when you plug it in?
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> how much did that cost BTW? looks really nice
[23:04] <Walzmyn> anybody else having trouble subscribing to the kubuntu.org RSS feed via Thunderbird?
[23:05] <drbobb> about 75 euro
[23:05] <drbobb> dmesg is like:
[23:05] <drbobb> Direct-Access     Cineo    USBDISK  User    1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0
[23:06] <drbobb> Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
[23:06] <drbobb> [sdc] 7945216 512-byte hardware sectors (4068 MB)
[23:06] <silverblade> How do I get Kate to open up new instances if i double click a text file?
[23:06] <silverblade> rather than opening in the existing window
[23:06] <Walzmyn> drbobb, what is this we're looking at?
[23:07] <drbobb> but then it goes like:
[23:07] <drbobb> scsi 3:0:0:0: [sdc] READ CAPACITY failed
[23:07] <drbobb> yeah sorry i know it ought to go to a pastebin
[23:07] <userkubuntu> how do install acrobat reader?
[23:08] <drbobb> last line ok?
[23:08] <drbobb> scsi 3:0:0:0: [sdc] Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT driverbyte=DRIVER_OK,SUGGEST_OK
[23:08] <drbobb> .. and no luck
[23:08] <Walzmyn> !acrobat
[23:08] <Walzmyn> :(
[23:08] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: odd
[23:09] <drbobb> yeah i thought so too
[23:11] <Walzmyn> userkubuntu, can you use kpdf? or do you need the actuall adobe application?
[23:11] <drbobb> the screen on that toy is really nice btw
[23:11] <drbobb> and format support is pretty good, though ogg formats seem to be unspported
[23:12] <Walzmyn> drbobb, what is this, an MP3 player?
[23:13] <drbobb> audio & video, multiple formats
[23:13] <userkubuntu> Walzmyn, i do like more of the acrobat reader...
[23:14] <drbobb> just got it for my kid, but found i need to reboot into windows to transfer files to it :(
[23:14] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: try doing "sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt"
[23:14] <Walzmyn> userkubuntu, ok
[23:16] <drbobb> nosrednaekim: nope, says device doesn't exist
[23:17] <Walzmyn> userkubuntu, http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2_allversions.html
[23:18] <drbobb> anyway, the device's screen goes on for a moment like it's establishing a connection
[23:18] <drbobb> but a minute later it's off
[23:18] <DarkWizzard> Hello.
[23:19] <DarkWizzard> How do I mount a hdd in /etc/fstab so it can only be mounted by the owner ?
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: nasty...
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: heh... since they do claim linux support... call them up :P
[23:20] <userkubuntu> Walzmyn, ok, I go to try to install…
[23:21] <Walzmyn> userkubuntu, kpdf works just fine for me though
[23:21] <drbobb> yeah i guess i'll try my luck with customer support ;-]
[23:21] <DarkWizzard> bump
[23:22] <carlos> ola
[23:22] <nosrednaekim> DarkWizzard: bumps don't work on IRC :P
[23:23] <DarkWizzard> I thought it's worth a try :)
[23:23] <Darlok_Williams> I have an IDE hard drive installed as master into my PIDE slot, but it still isn't recognized by BIOS.  Any ideas?
[23:24] <Walzmyn> Darlok_Williams, do you have your jumpers set correctly on the HDD
[23:24] <Walzmyn> ?
[23:24] <Darlok_Williams> Walzmyn: I believe so.  I've tried setting it to master, cable select, and just removing the jumper altogether.
[23:24]  * Walzmyn nods
[23:24] <Walzmyn> Darlok_Williams, afraid that was my only shot  :(
[23:25] <Darlok_Williams> Walzmyn: Yeah, by all rights it SHOULD be working.
[23:25] <Walzmyn> Darl
[23:26] <Walzmyn> Darlok_Williams, it does have power to it dosen't it? I did that once.
[23:27] <carlos> ola
[23:32] <userkubuntu> and to install the Real player, to touch archives .rmvb, as to install? or only codecs...
[23:35] <kewark> carlos: #kubuntu-es
[23:35] <Walzmyn> !realplayer | userkubuntu
[23:35] <STSX> I was able to tweak things in Gutsy so that my computer suspends OK. Before I upgrade to Hardy, I thought I would see what things might break, so I did a fresh install of Kubuntu Hardy on another partition; even after doing the exact tweaks that worked before in Gutsy, I can't get my computer to suspend. Any ideas how to troubleshoot?
[23:37] <amandibula> does anybody in here use a BCM4318 (or other 43xx) ?
[23:37] <userkubuntu> ok...
[23:37] <bnex10> will i be able to start fluxbox in a new session WITH a existing kde session
[23:37] <bnex10> ?
[23:56] <moster> a las wenas
[23:59] <thomas> hi