[10:39] <xukun> how can I use the tv out of my laptop in mythbuntu? my video card is ati x300
[14:51] <equim-> Seeker`: dunno if it's much use for you, but I got my P2-P5945GC from efficientpc.co.uk as a ready built mythbuntu box
[14:53] <Seeker`> equim-: cool. I was just going to buy the case and a processor - I have a HDD and RAM already
[14:53] <Seeker`> which means that I can build a system for ~£150
[14:54] <equim-> ahh nice :)
[14:54] <equim-> I was (am still I guess) completely new to mythtv so that was the easiest way to get up and running
[14:55] <laga> heh, nice. "MythTV options" :)
[14:57] <Seeker`> equim-: I already have a combined front/back end
[14:57] <Seeker`> I want to seperate the two out
[14:58] <equim-> right
[15:13] <Mandrake> Hi all
[15:14] <Mandrake> I'm a noob - an OLD noob (age 61)
[15:16] <ddgoose> laga: what is the version of mcc that should be installed if I used your latest with the unsigned packages fix?
[15:17] <laga> ddgoose: ~hardy2
[15:17] <laga> linked in the forum
[15:18] <ddgoose> k thanks
[15:19] <Mandrake> I got a blank screen after I clicked on "Live Environment" on the Desktop Install disk. What might be wrong?
[15:24] <laga> Mandrake: where did you choose that option? in the boot screen?
[15:25] <Mandrake> yes
[15:25] <Mandrake> I had done a disc check - it was ok - but not a memory check
[15:26] <Mandrake> 1 GB memory
[15:26] <laga> do you get a blank screen immediately afterwards or did you get a mythbuntu splash screen?
[15:26] <Mandrake> 300 GB HD divided into 2 partitions
[15:27] <Mandrake> When I hit Live Environment it went balnk and stayed that way about 20 min?
[15:27] <Mandrake> So I gave up
[15:27] <laga> hum. can you try "safe graphics mode"?
[15:27] <Mandrake> Is that one of the F buttons?
[15:28] <Mandrake> I had okay graphics from bootup until I hit Live Env.
[15:28] <laga> i'm not sure :) possibly
[15:28] <Mandrake> I can't try it right this minute
[15:29] <ddgoose> ubuntuforums gone to lunch
[15:30] <laga> ddgoose: yeah :/
[15:30] <Mandrake> So I shouold try "safe graphics mode" and get back to you?
[15:30] <laga> let me get you the url.
[15:30] <laga> Mandrake: yes, that might work.
[15:31] <Mandrake> Okay. Video chipset is nVidia GeForce 6100
[15:31] <ddgoose> can't get mcc to turn off autologin.. wtf
[15:31] <Mandrake> Disc has 1 10 GB partition w/ XP installed
[15:32] <Mandrake> And another 290 GB
[15:32] <laga> ddgoose: http://laga.ath.cx/mythbuntu-control-centre_0.28-0ubuntu1~hardy2_all.deb
[15:32] <laga> ddgoose: yeah, that's a known problem. :(
[15:32] <laga> i'll try to refactor MCC and write some testing suites.. after i learned how to do that.
[15:32] <ddgoose>  *** 0.28-0ubuntu1~hardy2 0
[15:33] <laga> ah, so your version should be good? what's the matter?
[15:33] <Mandrake> laga, how long will you be on?
[15:33] <ddgoose> I still get unsigned package error and that one above.
[15:33] <laga> Mandrake: hard to say, another hour or so. i'll be back later tonight
[15:33] <ddgoose> have to build chroot by hand
[15:34] <laga> ddgoose: that's unfortunate.
[15:34] <ddgoose> not really
[15:34] <Mandrake> Great. What time zone are you in? I'm in GMT +2 (Paris)
[15:34] <laga> ddgoose: can you see what command line it's trying to use?
[15:34] <laga> Mandrake: GMT+2, germany. saarland, so almost france :)
[15:35] <ddgoose> while the interface is handy, best to not be dependant on it
[15:35] <ddgoose> with  MCC_DEBUG="true" sudo -E /usr/share/mythbuntu-control-centre/bin/mythbuntu-control-centre ?
[15:35] <Mandrake> Ah, great. Vielen dank, freund!
[15:35] <laga> ddgoose: yeah, or maybe by looking at the output of "ps".
[15:36] <ddgoose> yeah ok
[15:36] <laga> i really want to get MCC in a good shape for 8.04.1
[15:36] <laga> i never thought it'd be that hard to get some hacking done in summer. i must be growing up or something. :)
[15:39] <ddgoose>  /bin/sh -c /usr/sbin/ltsp-build-client --mythbuntu --mythbuntu-copy-user-credentials --copy-sourceslist --arch i386 --base /opt/ltsp/ --accept-unsigned-packages 2>/dev/null
[15:39] <ddgoose> and
[15:39] <ddgoose>   /bin/bash /usr/sbin/ltsp-build-client --mythbuntu --mythbuntu-copy-user-credentials --copy-sourceslist --arch i386 --base /opt/ltsp/ --accept-unsigned-packages
[15:39] <ddgoose> at same time?
[15:40] <laga> i think that might be normal
[15:40] <ddgoose> that normal?
[15:40] <ddgoose> k
[15:40] <laga> and what's your command line?
[15:40] <ddgoose> MCC_DEBUG="true" sudo -E /usr/share/mythbuntu-control-centre/bin/mythbuntu-control-centre
[15:40] <ddgoose> oh
[15:40] <ddgoose> one sec
[15:41] <ddgoose> sudo /usr/sbin/ltsp-build-client --mythbuntu --mythbuntu-copy-user-credentials
[15:41] <ddgoose> that one works fine
[15:42] <ddgoose> from the interface I get the maybe you need "allow unsigned packages" checked.
[15:42] <ddgoose> like just now
[15:43] <laga> so.. wait. what happens when you use MC?
[15:44] <ddgoose> exit code 1 + maybe you need "allow unsigned packages" checked.
[15:45] <ddgoose> 001-set-accept-unsigned-packages is getting the proper arg on the command line
[15:46] <ddgoose> I even have medibuntu-keyring installed
[15:46] <ddgoose> which is where its failing
[15:46] <ddgoose> from command line I can install without warning
[15:46] <ddgoose> from medibuntu
[15:47] <laga> and from command line you don't need --accept-unsigned-packages ?
[15:47] <ddgoose> nope
[15:48] <laga> you don't happen to have a theory why that happens?
[15:48] <laga> because it worked for me with the ~hardy2 package ;)
[15:49] <ddgoose> do you have medibuntu-keyring installed?
[15:49] <laga> i'm not sure, TBH.
[15:49] <laga> i probably imported the key into apt.
[15:51] <ddgoose> I will try purging diskless-server and try it again, maybe something in there got munged
[15:52] <ddgoose> the only thing cutom in there currently is apt-cacher, but it works from command line so I am stumped
[15:52] <ddgoose> custom even
[15:53] <laga> i'll try it here
[15:54] <ddgoose> where does --copy-sourceslist come from, I don't grep it in any plugins
[15:55] <ddgoose> in common or Ubuntu
[15:55] <ddgoose> oh wait lemme check l-b-c
[15:55] <laga> duh, yeah. that's probably why it works for you in command line
[15:56] <ddgoose> its not in ltsp-build-client either
[15:56] <ddgoose> so it doesn't exist as an arg
[15:58] <laga> it does. :)
[15:58] <laga> ltsp-build-client --extra-help
[15:59] <laga> ltsp-build-client/Ubuntu/015-sources-list:        add_option "copy-sourceslist" "`eval_gettext "use the servers sources.list instead of generating one"`" "advanced" "false"
[15:59] <ddgoose> oh crap
[15:59] <ddgoose> I droped the s
[16:00] <ddgoose> my bad
[16:01] <ddgoose> my coffee level is low I guess
[16:01] <laga> my coffee level is always low. :)
[16:02] <ddgoose> ok gonna purge and reinstall see if I loose my gremlin
[16:02] <ddgoose> dang can't type I guess either
[16:03] <laga> it's squashing now..
[16:04] <ddgoose> has to be something on my end then
[16:04] <laga> if it still breaks, i'll be glad to try with your sources.list.
[16:06] <laga> all worky.
[16:15] <ddgoose> reinstalled, gonna eat some chow then I'll be back and try it
[16:15] <Mandrake> Hey! We gave it a try with Safe Graphics Mode and it works! Thanks!
[16:16] <laga> Mandrake: great
[16:56] <ddgoose> laga: it works now
[16:57] <ddgoose> I must have messed something up in plugins
[16:58] <ddgoose> do you have a source .deb for mcc @ 0.28-0ubuntu1~hardy2 ?
[16:59] <ddgoose> I want to add --mirror and --security-mirror
[17:00] <nespinosa> hi everybody
[17:01] <nespinosa> I have mythbuntu 8.04, I've got a problem when I want to watch tv the screen becomes black and then return to the general menu
[17:02] <MythbuntuGuest84> hello
[17:03] <nespinosa> Here is my mythtvfrontend log :2008-05-14 22:56:12.678 Using protocol version 40
[17:03] <nespinosa> 2008-05-14 22:56:12.755 TV: Attempting to change from None to WatchingLiveTV
[17:03] <nespinosa> 2008-05-14 22:56:12.756 Using protocol version 40
[17:03] <nespinosa> 2008-05-14 22:56:14.115 GetEntryAt(-1) failed.
[17:03] <nespinosa> 2008-05-14 22:56:14.117 EntryToProgram(0@jeu jan 1 01:00:00 1970) failed to get pginfo
[17:03] <nespinosa> 2008-05-14 22:56:14.117 TV Error: LiveTV not successfully started
[17:03] <nespinosa> 2008-05-14 22:56:14.118 TV Error: LiveTV not successfully started
[17:03] <nespinosa> 2008-05-14 22:56:14.194 TV: Deleting TV Chain in destructor
[17:04] <ddgoose> in the future please use pastebin.ubuntu.com for mutli line pastes, to avoid spamming the channel :)
[17:05] <ddgoose> do you have guide data configured?
[17:07] <nespinosa> yes, the guide data is configured and functional
[17:07] <ddgoose> can you watch tv in tvtime?
[17:08] <nespinosa> yes I can watch tv in tvtime
[17:08] <tgm4883_laptop> nespinosa, i'll assume the guide data is associated with the tuner
[17:09] <nespinosa> What do you mean by you will assume the guide data is associated with the tuner?
[17:09] <nespinosa> how do you know that ?
[17:11] <nespinosa> ddgoose, I am sorry for not have used pastebin. I am not used to give logs on chat. I promiss to do it next time.
[17:11] <tgm4883_laptop> nespinosa, because I'm going to assume that you did all the steps that you were supposed to and got confused somewhere, not skipped a step.  Should I not think that way?
[17:13] <nespinosa> you can. sorry if I don't understand well. I am not very familiar with english.
[17:13] <tgm4883_laptop> nespinosa, did you follow a guide?
[17:14] <nespinosa> I have used the mythbuntu manual.
[17:14] <nespinosa> to install and configure mythbuntu
[17:16] <tgm4883_laptop> what tuner
[17:17] <nespinosa> my tuner is a pinnacle pctv stereo. I use V4l
[17:17] <nespinosa> it is an analogue tv card
[17:20] <tgm4883_laptop> nespinosa, did you change the recording direcyory
[17:22] <tgm4883_laptop> *directory
[17:26] <nespinosa> in mythback end I have added in storage directory in default. But I did not find a way to cancel this directory added. Do you think it could become from that ?
[17:26] <tgm4883_laptop> what directory did you add?
[17:26] <nespinosa> let me check.
[17:31] <nespinosa> so, I have added a storage group name : défaut . In this group I have added a directorie : slash home slash nespinosa slash Desktop (sorry but my slash doesnt work, Iam under vnc))
[17:32] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[17:32] <tgm4883_laptop> so your recording dir is
[17:32] <tgm4883_laptop> /home/nespinosa/Desktop
[17:32] <tgm4883_laptop> right?
[17:32] <nespinosa> I think it is
[17:32] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[17:33] <tgm4883_laptop> can you pastebin your backend log?
[17:33] <tgm4883_laptop> or at least the last 50 lines of it
[17:34] <tgm4883_laptop> right now I think it's a permission problem
[17:34] <tgm4883_laptop> nespinosa, how many hard drives do you have?
[17:34] <nespinosa> Sure I can. Let me see how to use paste bin. I'll do it right now.
[17:39] <nespinosa> I don't know if you will access to my log if I give you the link : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14349/plain/. Is it what I have to do?
[17:42] <tgm4883_laptop> nespinosa, perfect ;)
[17:43] <tgm4883_laptop> it's a permission problem
[17:43] <tgm4883_laptop> first, i'd like to point out that the Desktop isn't exactly the best place to put the recording directory
[17:43] <tgm4883_laptop> with that being said, it's your machine and you can have it there if you like
[17:43] <tgm4883_laptop> do you wish to change it?
[17:44] <nespinosa> yes I would like to change it
[17:44] <nespinosa> what directory would have directly permission access?
[17:45] <tgm4883_laptop> nespinosa, well we will give it permission
[17:45] <tgm4883_laptop> how many hard drives do you have in the box?
[17:46] <nespinosa> I have one hard drive (40GB) but I will soon buy another to stock video, music files and share it to other computers of my house
[17:46] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[17:47] <tgm4883_laptop> how is your partitions?
[17:47] <tgm4883_laptop> how many/what kind?
[17:49] <nespinosa> I've keep windows on a first partition, on the second partition I've / installed, on a third partition I have /home and finally a swap partition
[17:49] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[17:50] <tgm4883_laptop> how large are your home and / partitions
[17:50] <nespinosa> I do not remember the size of each partitions. Is there a command line to know it?
[17:51] <tgm4883_laptop> pastebin the output of df
[17:51] <nespinosa> I would like to point out that all are Ext3 partitions (except swap of course)
[17:51] <tgm4883_laptop> k
[17:51] <nespinosa> ok ! I know how it works ;-)
[17:53] <nespinosa> here it is : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14355/plain/
[17:54] <tgm4883_laptop> nespinosa, ok lets do this
[17:54] <tgm4883_laptop> in your home directory make a directory called recordings
[17:55] <tgm4883_laptop> so
[17:55] <tgm4883_laptop> mkdir /home/nespinosa/recordings
[17:55] <tgm4883_laptop> then
[17:55] <weiser> Hey, have anybody played with mythtv and a touchscreen?
[17:55] <tgm4883_laptop> chmod 775 /home/nespinosa/recordings
[17:56] <tgm4883_laptop> then
[17:56] <tgm4883_laptop> chown mythtv:mythtv /home/nespinosa/recordings
[17:57] <tgm4883_laptop> then go into the mythtv-setup and delete the directory in your storage group (with either the delete key or the d key), then add /home/nespinosa/recordings as a recording dir
[17:57] <tgm4883_laptop> then it should work
[18:06] <nespinosa> ok that is cool. It works! Thank you!
[18:06] <tgm4883_laptop> np
[18:07] <tgm4883_laptop> nespinosa, keep in mind that when you add a second hard drive, for the recordings directory it is better to be formatted as XFS
[18:09] <nespinosa> Oki thank you. But only for recordings? could I keep ntfs for music and videos to share with windows pc (the one of my girlfriend)?
[18:10] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[18:11] <tgm4883_laptop> yes I believe ext3 is better for home
[18:11] <tgm4883_laptop> you could also do xfs for music and videos and use samba to share over the network with windows machines
[18:12] <rogue780__> howdiddly
[18:12] <laga> ddgoose: still wanting the source for MCC? if you wanna do an "official" patch, then the source tree is your best bet.
[18:14] <nespinosa> oki. I will do that.
[18:25] <ddgoose> laga: does the source tree have your unsigned sources patch?
[18:25] <laga> yes
[18:25] <ddgoose> ok cool
[18:26] <ddgoose> going to add a checkbox with fields for setting custom mirror addresses to support apt-cacher
[18:28] <laga> well, that's what i intended when i added the --copy-sourceslist option by default :)
[18:29] <laga> the problem is that the UI is already very cluttered up.
[18:29] <ddgoose> it's not working as far as I can tell, it starts to grab stuff from security. and archive.
[18:29] <ddgoose> even though my sources.list has apt-cacher setup
[18:30] <laga> ah. yeah, for debootstrap it'll use default values. :(
[18:32] <ddgoose> which glade package do you use to work on the interface? or do you code it by hand?
[18:32] <laga> just glade-3 ;)
[18:32] <ddgoose> k
[18:32] <laga> coding by hand must be a nightmare.
[18:32] <ddgoose> looks to be yeah
[18:33] <laga> i hope you find a nice way without making the UI even bigger.. maybe a popup, but we haven'T used popups so far.. would be bad for UI consistency.
[18:33] <laga> alright, time for homework.
[18:33] <ddgoose> was thinking basic/advanced tab
[18:33] <ddgoose> we'll see
[18:44] <nespinosa> Thomas, I think that I've got another problem. Do you think it is my channel which are not set properly ? Here is my mythbackend log : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14363/plain/
[18:49] <tgm4883_laptop> nespinosa, yea you need to scan for channels in mythtv setup.  You also need to setup a software encoder since you have a non hardware encoding card
[18:52] <nespinosa> I have taken channels number from tvtime. I think it is not good channels don't you?
[18:56] <tgm4883_laptop> nespinosa, you can scan for channels in mythtv-setup.  I suggest you do that
[18:59] <nespinosa> So I do a manual scan in mythtv-setup then I do mythfilldatabase --manual and I fill channel corresponding number to connect tuner channels to tv guide. Is that correct ?
[19:00] <tgm4883_laptop> where do you get channel data from?
[19:04] <nespinosa> until now I get channel number from tvtime (I think do not give a good number). I have tv_grab_fr that enable me to fill channels in mythtv. But I haded manually the channel number by running mythfilldatabase. do you see what I mean?
[19:07] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[19:07] <tgm4883_laptop> do what you suggested before, see if it works
 So I do a manual scan in mythtv-setup then I do mythfilldatabase --manual and I fill channel corresponding number to connect tuner channels to tv guide. Is that correct ?
[19:08] <tgm4883_laptop> do that ^^
[19:10] <Rukusx7> hi
[19:10] <Rukusx7> anyone here to grant me some help?
[19:13] <nespinosa> Ok Thomas, I will do that. I have to go now. I'll certainly come back. I would like to thank you for your help. See you.  Nicolas
[19:16] <Rukusx7> i'm trying to set mythTV up to scan for channels on bev 91 but not quite sure how to do it. also i am wondering what patches i need to apply, and anything that is necessary or not
[19:19] <ddgoose> gah.. glade is a bitch
[19:49] <Lud7773> hello...  wondering if anyone else has had problems managing volume with myth?
[19:50] <Lud7773> I have my remote configured so I can adjust volume... but I can have the volume down to 0% but it doesn't change the volume at all.
[19:53] <DarthFrog> Does anyone have the 1st gen Hauppague grey remote control?  The one with the 4 coloured buttons surrounding the arrow keys.  Do you have it working properly with Mythbuntu?  For me, the arrow keys do not work.
[19:55] <Lud7773> DarthFrog: sry... I have the silver one... with the colored buttons on the bottom.
[19:55] <DarthFrog> Lud7773: I've built several systems with that remote control, it works fine.  But my personal system antedates them.
[19:56] <DarthFrog> The WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) is becoming severely disgruntled.  I prefer her gruntled. :-)
[19:56] <Lud7773> lol
[19:57] <Lud7773> I know the feeling... wife is happy with me once again...  she hated my xbox...  had to call me at work so she could watch her movies cause she didn't know how to navigate.
[19:57] <Lud7773> now with myth she's a lot happier...
[19:58] <Lud7773> only thing I can't get going is controlling volume with hauppauge remote.
[19:58] <DarthFrog> MythTV is truly excellent.  And works fine with a keyboard.
[19:58] <Lud7773> the remote works... but the volume levels don't change.
[19:59] <Lud7773> DarthFrog: you could modify your own lirc file and mythcontrols to have your arrow keys work.
[19:59] <DarthFrog> I'm not all that bothered by volume control:  I have a One4All programable remote control and I pipe audio from Myth into my stereo system.
[19:59] <DarthFrog> Believe me, I've tried that.
[19:59] <Lud7773> DarthFrog: and no joy huhh.
[19:59] <DarthFrog> This hardware worked perfectly with Fedora 7 and MythTV 0.20-2
[20:00] <DarthFrog> But Myth/Hardy is a different matter, even if I use the lircd.conf/lircrc files from Fedora.  It must be a change in lirc, methinks.
[20:01] <DarthFrog> Well, if I run irw, I get the correct mapping of key presses.
[20:01] <DarthFrog> So lircd.conf must be OK.
[20:02] <Lud7773> DarthFrog: I've been following this guys How to... and he's got some pretty good mods... he does mention the "grey" remote... perhaps there is something here you can use:  http://s91928265.onlinehome.us/hfamily/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html
[20:02] <DarthFrog> Tnx.  I'll have a boo at that.
[20:02] <Lud7773> this is for older ubuntu... but perhaps something you can pick up.
[20:24] <Mandrake> Hey, I just wanted to tell laga that I tried the Protected Video mode or whatever and it worked!! (my problem was a blank screen after the kernel loaded when tryin to boot into the Live Environment). Thanks!!
[20:34] <Lud7773> I have 3 different kinds of remote= installed on my lircrc file.  how can I tell which one myth is using for my remote?
[20:38] <Seeker`> Lud7773: The .lircrc file should specify a rmote
[20:38] <Seeker`> do you have 3 for each buttom?
[20:38] <Lud7773> it does... it specifies 3 remotes.
[20:38] <Seeker`> :/
[20:38] <Seeker`> it will use all of them I think
[20:39] <Seeker`> how many remotes are specified in /etc/lirc/lirc.conf
[20:40] <Lud7773> for my lircrc I have:  hauppauge_pvr,  Hauppauge_WinTV_Nexus-S,  HVR-1100,  Hauppauge_350, Hauppauge
[20:41] <Lud7773> and for the lirc.conf same amount of remotes.
[20:42] <Lud7773> I'm trying to use mythcontrols to program my remote... but it's not working...
[20:42] <Lud7773> I have the config= ! in my lirc file, when I got to mythcontrols, it shows up as shift+!
[20:43] <Lud7773> I've restarted the lirc service and have even rebooted the pc, but still no joy when I press the remote button.