[00:00] <el1te> well the mods in here need to start sending ppl there
[00:00] <cory> jrib: im at the point where im just going to stick with fedora since i dont have the error with it.
[00:00] <ls3> problem here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14213/
[00:00] <el1te> cause everything just flys by like a dcc/xdcc serving channel
[00:00] <el1te> this is crazy
[00:00] <jpw27_> DIL: okay, right click on your menu bar, hit 'edit menus', go to whatever submenu you want, press 'new item', and fill in the fields ('Command' field is where you will type the command you usually type
[00:00]  * ls3 using xubuntu
[00:00] <quentusrex> Does anyone know of an opensource client management and billing software? Something that can generate invoices based on data in a database?
[00:00] <jrib> cory: I wouldn't blame you.  I don't see this as an easy thing to track down.  You could try a different ubuntu version too and see if that works out better
[00:01] <funkyhat> nadjavox: so if we can set up an initrd image so those 2 modules can load before the hdd drivers you should have it working with full sata support
[00:01] <funkyhat> err
[00:01] <jrib> el1te: your the only offtopic person I see here at the moment :)
[00:01] <No1CaNTeL> :( So I'm back again wih the same problem, I can't seem to move one of my partitions to the right so I can add more space to another partition. I've tried using the Live CD's GParted and the GParted live cd as well, and I could not get Partition Magic 8 to read the nix partitions. I get a read/write error at sector xxxxxx every time I try to move. I can resize the partition ok, but I cannot move it. does anyone have 
[00:01] <No1CaNTeL>  over? the Check option in gparted did not seem to work :(
[00:01] <jrib> you're
[00:01] <funkyhat> *so those modules can load before the hdd is mounted - they are the hdd drivers :D
[00:01] <hexcypher> has anyone here heard about SETC?
[00:01] <oddar> hello, just installd BT on my drive, partition SDA3. I have Ubuntu on SDA1. Problem is the bootloader changed after installing BT. now im probably using LILO on /mnt/sda3/, but i walt to use GRUB on /mnt/sda1. HELP!!!
[00:01] <el1te> who do i speak with about using pulseaudio
[00:01] <cory> jrib: I think i will take that course of action. My hardware just has problems with linux.
[00:01] <DIL> jpw27_: you DA man!!
[00:02] <jpw27_> DIL: i think that is what you're asking.  you may have to do some monkeying around to get an icon to show up if you want an icon.  otherwise it will be the regular application launch icon
[00:02] <robg_> No1CanTel: you cannot move a paritition that contains an OS.
[00:02] <jpw27_> DIL: np
[00:02] <jrib> el1te: just ask your question/state your problem on a single line and direct it to the channel.  If someone can help, they will respond
[00:02] <DIL> jpw27_: ty i am good to go
[00:02] <remoteCTRL> blumm: Kasablanca and  kftgrabber is waht i found so far..
[00:02] <cory> jrib: when i upgrade i will probably try ubuntu again. This system is about 5 years old now anyway. Thanks for your time.
[00:02] <el1te> my question fly by so fast no one can read it
[00:02] <funkyhat> el1te: ask again :)
[00:02] <No1CaNTeL> robg_: mkay, now I wish I had that answer yesterday :P
[00:03] <el1te> i have 2 computers (comp 1 = vista box) (comp2= will be linux box)....i take the analog-out of comp1 and put it in comp2 analog-in then its router to its own optical-out (soubdstorm apu) to goto my stereo reciever....when it works ddl and dts sound great
[00:03] <hexoroid> samba will work only if the two computers are on a router correct ?
[00:03] <blumm> remoteCTRL: thanks, kasablanca doesnt seem to support proxy using
[00:03] <nadjavox> funkyhat: hmm...that looks almost identical. Thank you for finding the bug. I have no idea how to setup an initrd image, but I will read more. thank you
[00:03] <robg_> No1CanTel: you can safely delete a partititon or you can reduce it in size by knibbling a piece of the side where there is no data.
[00:03] <zaputr> Please, help, Pidgin doesn't view any statuses and qips don't see ma status, can i solve this problem?
[00:03] <garrett__> hexoroid: no.  they just have to be routable
[00:04] <garrett__> hexoroid: if you can ping the boxes, less you have samba firewalled off, it'll work
[00:04] <funkyhat> nadjavox: I can talk you through it once I've figured it out - just googling it now. I've done it before but forgotten the ins and outs
[00:04] <No1CaNTeL> I've retried over and over again. okay, hmmm. the drive I want to move is my home partition, the os is installed on another partition so should I still be able to move the home partition?
[00:04] <hexoroid> garrett__, well i have a HUB and it has ip 12.* and then linux is plugged into router
[00:04] <hexoroid> garrett__, so i guess i can use samba fine ?
[00:05] <robg_> No1CanTel: Although Gparted offers the option of moving an OS from one side of the disk to another, if you try it will fail.
[00:05] <garrett__> hexoroid: like i said, if you can ping between the two boxes, it should work fine
[00:05] <remoteCTRL> blumm: kind of hard :D
[00:05] <quentusrex>   /join #citrusdb
[00:05] <blumm> remoteCTRL: indeed, wlfxp seemed to be perfect but it doesnt work ;(
[00:06] <garrett__> hexoroid: also, 12.* is an internet-routable ip block.  use 10.* or 192.168.*
[00:06] <oddar> anyone? my GRUB got raped by LILO... help?
[00:06] <hexoroid> garrett__,  what about transfer rate
[00:06] <hexoroid> is it gonna be fast ?
[00:06] <funkyhat> el1te: as long as the sound card is supported properly by ALSA pulseaudio can do the routing for that no problem
[00:06] <No1CaNTeL> basically I have to areas with unallocated space, I want to put them together but I have another partition in between them (the home partition) which is in the way. is there another way I can go about doing this?
[00:06] <No1CaNTeL> or did I screw myself from the start :P
[00:06] <remoteCTRL> blumm: http://jfxp.sourceforge.net/  ?
[00:06] <hexoroid> garrett__, well this windows box has 12.* its not hooked up on router its on the HUB
[00:06] <remoteCTRL> blumm: ah already found it:/
[00:07] <garrett__> henxor: that depends on your network card and hub/router.  in the least case, it'll be ~1MB/sec; in the other case (more normal, these days), it'll be ~10M/sec
[00:07] <blumm> remoteCTRL: yes, but i get an error message while using it
[00:07] <robg_> No1CanTel: how about re-installing one OS ?
[00:07] <blumm> remoteCTRL: and java ppl dont know whats wrong...
[00:07] <garrett__> hexoroid: ok, well, that doesn't mean anything to me as i have no idea what your network's like
[00:07] <No1CaNTeL> mmm, too much backing up too do if it can be avoided I would prefer to do so
[00:07] <zaputr> Please, help, Pidgin doesn't view any statuses and qips don't see ma status, can i solve this problem?
[00:08] <garrett__> hexoroid: the simplest thing would be to either plug both machines into the router
[00:08] <robg_> No1CanTel: use a temporary installed Ubuntu as a stepping stone.
[00:08] <Altair> I have question can i have Ubuntu and Ubuntu studio together ? Like the Ubuntu Studio and the Ubutnu 8.04 settings
[00:08] <Altair> In different sessions
[00:08] <remoteCTRL> blumm: which one?
[00:08] <garrett__> hexoroid: does your network actually work?  as in, can you ping between the two machines?
[00:08] <hexoroid> garret router is plugged into Switch.. and windows box is also hooked up into switch and then linux box is hooked into router
[00:08] <garrett__> hexoroid: if not, you need to fix that before you worry about samba
[00:08] <No1CaNTeL> wait, I misdescribed it a bit. sda1 is my Ubuntu install, sda2 is windows, sda3 is home, then unallocated space :P
[00:08] <hexoroid> well i sure cant ping 198.*
[00:08] <blumm> remoteCTRL: wlfxp. i get java.lang.NullPointerException as error message when using my proxy
[00:08] <No1CaNTeL> I am adding to sda2
[00:09] <No1CaNTeL> hmm
[00:09] <hexoroid> i can ping external ip of 192.* box
[00:09] <hexoroid> i mean
[00:09] <No1CaNTeL>  how do I go about doing that?
[00:09] <robg_> No1CanTel: write all your files to CD. Re-install the OS.
[00:09] <oddar> Altair, why would you? isnt ubuntu studio good enough on its own?
[00:09] <No1CaNTeL> my personal files?
[00:09] <No1CaNTeL> like media
[00:09] <No1CaNTeL> dosc, etc
[00:09] <No1CaNTeL> docs*
[00:09] <nadjavox> funkyhat: sounds good. i appreciate your help
[00:10] <ryoohki> is there a less crowded dell linux channel?
[00:10] <garrett__> hexoroid: are you using a cross-over cable to connect the switch to the router?
[00:10] <robg_> No1CanTel: either you live with the current situation or you write everything to CD and do a clean re-install.
[00:10] <remoteCTRL> blumm: well i know what that error means so i also know that that will be not to find:/
[00:10] <garrett__> hexoroid: or are you using a standard straight-through?
[00:10] <remoteCTRL> sa pitty...
[00:11] <funkyhat> nadjavox: ok, it should be very simpls as there's a package that can automatically generate one for you :-). Start with apt-get install initramfs-tools
[00:11] <blumm> remoteCTRL: i was told its probably some coding bug
[00:11] <hexoroid> standard straight-through for 12.* ip and then linux is on the router
[00:11] <garrett__> hexoroid: if it _should_ work and it doesn't, that'd be my first guess.
[00:11] <No1CaNTeL> what if I delete the windows partition, should I be able to add the unallocated space to sda3, and then free it up afterwards?
[00:11] <garrett__> hexoroid: like i said.  12.* is NOT a PRIVATE IP block
[00:11] <garrett__> hexoroid: 12.* is internet routable
[00:11] <hexoroid> ok then it has to be privat ip block :-)
[00:11] <suriro> No1CaNTeL: are trying to move sda3 to the end?
[00:11] <oddar> Altair: is there really a big difference from ubuntu 8,04 and ubuntu studio 8,04?
[00:11] <remoteCTRL> blumm: kFTPGrabber ?
[00:12] <ls3> Broadcom: i think i found some tips, sudo aptitude install build-essential (maybe need to run for first-time maker)
[00:12] <No1CaNTeL> I was trying to move the unallocated space after sda3 over to sda2
[00:12] <blumm> remoteCTRL: i tried it and didnt find the socks proxy support
[00:12] <remoteCTRL> blumm: definitely, null pointer means that some pointer is pointing into nirvana instead of to an object..
[00:12] <robg_> No1CanTel: Gparted will delete a partition (only by deleting the pointer to it). It will also tell you what your options are after that.
[00:12] <zSoilworker> g e n i u s
[00:12] <suriro> No1CaNTeL: first grow sda3 to the end, then shrink it from the start. Do you get what I say?
[00:12] <garrett__> hexoroid: specifically, 12.x is owned by ATT
[00:12] <remoteCTRL> blumm: gosh i'm slightly running out of ideas slowly:D
[00:13] <blumm> remoteCTRL: thanks, but as linux newbie i wont be able to change anything to the code - hehe
[00:13] <Afromonkey0> Hi is this the right place for tech help?
[00:13] <garrett__> hexoroid: if this is an internal network, you should be using 10.x or 192.168.x.x
[00:13] <zSoilworker> Afromonkey0: About Ubuntu, it is.
[00:13] <nadjavox> funkyhat: it's already installed 0.85eubuntu36
[00:13] <blumm> remoteCTRL: haha, me too. iglooftp pro seems to be nice but it costs 30$ :/
[00:13] <No1CaNTeL> suriro: I tried that but it fails as it first frees the space to the right then it tries to move the filesystem which fails
[00:13] <Afromonkey0> great thanks
[00:14] <No1CaNTeL> robg_: See I was hoping to know those options before I delete anything :P
[00:14] <remoteCTRL> blumm: which was the reason that i dodn't mention it...
[00:14] <RP_SWE> if a python script is trying to import cups and gtk.glade and cant find them where can I find these files and were should they be?
[00:14] <funkyhat> nadjavox: ok that's cool. run gksu gedit /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[00:14] <RP_SWE> the script im talking about is my-default-printer.py
[00:14] <Altair> oddar a bit theres more programs for music edting and photos editing programs
[00:15] <robg_> No1CanTel: I can understand that but parititioning remains risky business with sometimes unpredictable outcomes.
[00:15] <blumm> remoteCTRL: yea, this sucks badly. i cant imagine there isnt any ftp client which can do all this
[00:15] <remoteCTRL> blumm: http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2008/04/crossftp-synchronization-tool-and.html ?
[00:15] <No1CaNTeL> but again, if I was to delete sda2 then add the space from sda2 to sda3, then resize sda3  so the new free space gets appended to the already free space after sda3?
[00:15] <garrett__> hexeor: that said, if you're computers aren't on the same subnet, you're going to need to setup routing tables to get packets from subnet A to subnet B
[00:15] <garrett__> s/you're/your
[00:15] <bobsomebody> hiya
[00:15] <tony_> hi i just got a linksys wrt150n router and was wondering how to setup a secured wireless. the cd that came with it only works on windows
[00:15]  * No1CaNTeL wonders if that made any sense :P
[00:15] <garrett__> hexoroid: of which there are plenty of tutorials for doing
[00:15] <bobsomebody> my xorg.conf file looks totally different on 8.04
[00:15] <blumm> remoteCTRL: seems to be windows only or web-based
[00:15] <nadjavox> funkyhat: ok...done
[00:15] <Wires> so I've finally made the switch to Ubuntu.. I was planning on duel-booting Windows, but I think I'm just going to use Ubuntu.. I love it
[00:16] <Coiotes> I've followed pendrivelinux.com's tutorial for making an Ubuntu pendrive from the livecd, but has anyone had success in copying-over all of one's file settings etc to it?
[00:16] <robg_> No1CanTel: You will have to ask Gparted if that is an option.
[00:16] <Wires> although I might install Windows to play games on
[00:16] <bobsomebody> im still trying to get dual screen with no success
[00:16] <tony_> hi i just got a linksys wrt150n router and was wondering how to setup a secured wireless. the cd that came with it only works on windows
[00:16] <tony_> can someone help me out?
[00:16] <No1CaNTeL> I dont care where the free space comes together, as long as it gets together somehow :P do they have a channel on here as well?
[00:16] <funkyhat> tony_: try going to 192.168.1.1 in your browser
[00:16] <gordonjcp> tony_: in general you should be able to connect to the router from the wired interface
[00:16] <bobsomebody> tony_: http://192.168.1.1
[00:16] <gordonjcp> tony_: it may have a WEP key already set
[00:16] <ls3> one question, how to modify /etc/modules file?
[00:16] <remoteCTRL> blumm: Operating System : Windows XP/Vista/2003/2000/98, Mac OS X, Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris.
[00:17] <ls3> i got the Can't open file to write error
[00:17] <WIDESPREADpanic> is anyone in hear good with postfix?
[00:17] <blumm> remoteCTRL: but its not for free?
[00:17] <tony_> it prompts me for username and password
[00:17] <bobsomebody> bleh im about to pay someone to fix this crap im so tired of dealing with it
[00:17] <gordonjcp> tony_: once you get in, set a WEP or WPA key that's not terribly obvious, and change the router password
[00:17] <garrett__> tonyyarusso: i think the default is admin/pass
[00:17] <tony_> and i didn't set those up yet
[00:17] <funkyhat> nadjavox: ok add (on a separate line each, at the bottom) sd_mod and sata_nv
[00:17] <Afromonkey0> So my problem is I installed audacity with apt-get, was recording something and tried to increase playback speed for some reason.  Audacity crashed and froze the whole OS (ubuntu hardy) so i had to do a  hard reboot. Now it says "find --set-root  --ignore-floppies /ubuntu/install/boot/grub/menu.lst    Error 15: File not found" It gives me different options for boot lines and all return error...
[00:17] <Afromonkey0> ...15. tl:dr ubuntu is bricked
[00:17] <garrett__> tony_: just google for your router's default password
[00:17] <bobsomebody> tony_ admin blank
[00:17] <tony_> thnx
[00:17] <b0xxy> tony_: admin | admin
[00:17] <garrett__> tony_: my wrt54g is admin/pass *shhrug*
[00:17] <bobsomebody> or admin admin
[00:18] <bobsomebody> i dont know if they changed up since i last used linksys
[00:18] <No1CaNTeL> tony_:  go to http://portforwards.com they have lists of most routers
[00:18] <gordonjcp> tony_: do make sure you change them ;-)
[00:18] <tony_> admin admin worked thanx!
[00:18] <b0xxy> :)
[00:18] <gordonjcp> tony_: incidentally WEP will keep a determined person out for about 5-10 mins, WPA-PSK about 10-20 mins
[00:18] <bobsomebody> anyone good at setting up xinerma?
[00:18] <bobsomebody> *xinerama
[00:18] <tony_> i'll try to setup a wpa
[00:18] <remoteCTRL> blumm: ?? http://www.crossftp.com/crossftp.jnlp
[00:19] <Afromonkey0> btw it ubuntu hardy heron installed with wubi
[00:19] <ariqs> what's the kernel dir for ubuntu?
[00:19] <gordonjcp> tony_: more trouble than it's worth ;-)
[00:19] <oddar> Altair, i know, so why do you want anything else than Studio version... it doeslt lack alything now, does it?
[00:19] <nadjavox> funkyhat: ok...all done :)
[00:19] <bobsomebody> arigs: nothing you can delete it
[00:19] <bobsomebody> joke
[00:19] <ariqs> I mean, where is it?
[00:19] <tony_> :D
[00:19] <blumm> remoteCTRL: trying now :)
[00:19] <Afromonkey0> this is the third time in a month ubuntu has failed to boot and i'm only installing supported packages
[00:20] <remoteCTRL> blumm: right:)
[00:20] <Gershwin> anyone here from Copenhagen (Kobenhavn)?
[00:20] <ariqs> .
[00:20] <nadjavox> funkyhat: should I try rebooting and see what happens?
[00:20] <Afromonkey0> makes me a sad panda
[00:20] <funkyhat> nadjavox: first you need to run sudo update-initramfs
[00:20] <funkyhat> nadjavox: then try rebooting :D
[00:20] <Pxrbot> hi, im trying to get my Wacom tablet to work as it should (its working as a mouse, but not as a tablet),any ideas would be appreciated :)
[00:21] <nadjavox> funkyhat: heh...ok
[00:21] <ariqs> what's the kernel dir for ubuntu?
[00:21] <Gershwin> if so (re: Copenhagen), I have an odd requests that involves receiving an envelope via snail mail
[00:21] <Afromonkey0> so is there a way of restoring my menu.lst file? I have a live cd..
[00:21] <suriro> ariqs: I can tell you the names of packages related to i386, if that's what you're after..
[00:22] <tyler> Ok who wants to be my messiah for the day?
[00:22] <ariqs> suriro: nah, I'm trying to compile the drivers fir i686 myself
[00:22] <ariqs> for
[00:22] <blumm> omg
[00:22] <tyler> xserver is crashing on login. I think I deleted an ALSA driver but how the hell would this affect xorg?
[00:22] <nadjavox> funkyhat: it wants me to specify a kernel
[00:22] <tony_> seting up the wpa for my router and use the mac filtering should be fairly secured right? any other thing i mighte need to know?
[00:23] <suriro> ariqs: are you sure that's possible? that's a closed source driver.. hence the name restricted.
[00:23] <Amaranth> tyler: try logging in with the Failsafe GNOME session
[00:23] <garrett__> tony_: that's about the best you can do without using ssh tunnels
[00:23] <tony_> cool. thanx
[00:23] <ariqs> suriro: i have the source code to lt modem drivers right here ;P
[00:23] <ls3> great, i got my atheros wifi available !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:23] <ls3> thanks broadcom
[00:23] <ariqs> it just won't compile for me yet
[00:24] <Afromonkey0> is there a place I can go where people are less busy?
[00:24] <thespecialone200> Hello
[00:24] <tyler> amaranth: no luck i get errors
[00:24] <thespecialone200> Need some emergency help here
[00:24] <nadjavox> funkyhat: how do I find a list of the kernels? Here is the output - http://paste.ubuntu.com/14218/
[00:24] <tyler> amaranth: cannot open display: 0
[00:25] <Stroganoff> Afromonkey0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-778ecd20f83f92ebaa5aaec5f1b4615539c2f8d3
[00:25] <thespecialone200> When i boot up, and X starts, the screen says "out of range"...
[00:25] <remoteCTRL> !ask | thespecialone200
[00:25] <blumm> remoteCTRL: after installing it, it started a new application all 5 seconds or so
[00:25] <Afromonkey0> stroganoff: hanx il check that out
[00:25] <remoteCTRL> blumm: aw my gawd
[00:25] <blumm> i couldnt do anything else but closing crossftp windows
[00:25] <remoteCTRL> outta luck eh?
[00:25] <tyler> amaranth: really frustrating, i've reinstalled gnome-desktop. so it's got to be with xorg
[00:25] <Fishscene> I'm having a devil of a time with Ubuntu and formatting this drive. I formatted this drive to be ext2, but the GUI reports it as ext3.    ...?
[00:25] <blumm> seems so
[00:25] <thespecialone200> I need to change the resolution of X before booting up ubuntu , because the resolution is probably set wrong for my monitor... How can i do this=
[00:25] <thespecialone200> ?
[00:25] <bobsomebody> anyone good at setting up xinerama?
[00:26] <tyler> thespecialone200: have you tried booting into xconfig?
[00:26] <remoteCTRL> thespecialone200: depends on what graphics card you got, meaning ati or nvidia?
[00:27] <thespecialone200> its intel..
[00:27] <tyler> thespecialone200: sorry meant xclient
[00:27] <blumm> remoteCTRL: i will continue my search tomorrow - thanks for helping
[00:27] <blumm> bye
[00:27] <douglas> If I want to broadcast to a shoutcast / icecast (i prefer shoutcast)
[00:27] <remoteCTRL> blumm: no prom buddy, good luck with that
[00:27] <Jimmy`> need nvivdnvdid help
[00:27] <douglas> Should i install meediubuntu?
[00:27] <funkyhat> nadjavox: ok try sudo update-initramfs -u
[00:27] <tyler> I'm going to cry if I have to install Hardy one more time
[00:27] <douglas> medibuntu
[00:27] <Pxrbot> Hi, im trying to get my Wacom tablet running properly (its running as a mouse, not as a tablet) and ive got the things it gives me off Synaptic, any suggestions would be of great help :)
[00:27] <thespecialone200> i have made X work before, its just that i think the resolution is set wrong, out of range for my monitor
[00:28] <garrett__> tyler: what's going on?
[00:28] <remoteCTRL> thespecialone200: which makes it a little harder, you might need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:28] <mad_max02> you sure you installed the video drivers corectly ?
[00:28] <Afromonkey0> Stroganoff: if i do that will i lose my data and setting etc?
[00:28] <garrett__> tyler: all i saw was the "cannot open display :0"
[00:28] <remoteCTRL> thespecialone200: what about the screen resolution in the menu?
[00:28] <tyler> garrett_: I deleted an alsa file and x is crashing on login
[00:28] <ThreeFinity> so...I clean installed ubuntu 8.04 on new formatted partitions 3 times now..every time I reboot is says "failed to mount partition" but I can mount those drives from inside the live cd..
[00:29] <Stroganoff> Afromonkey0 no
[00:29] <thespecialone200> remoteCTRL: i tried "fix X" in recovery mode, it didnt work. probed my gf card, but still that "out of range" message on my monitor.
[00:29] <Stroganoff> Afromonkey0 there's also a sample menu.lst further down
[00:29] <tyler> garrett_: At first all I was getting was CLI on boot, then I reinstalled gnome-desktop, but x is not wanting to run
[00:29] <tyler> garrett_: I've tried to reconfigure it is fail safe with no luck yet
[00:29] <thespecialone200> remoteCTR1: how can i get into that menu when i cant even boot X?
[00:29] <garrett__> tyler: m
[00:29] <remoteCTRL> thespecialone200: edit that xorg.conf of yours and kick out exotic resolutions like 1400x1050 and such
[00:29] <remoteCTRL> then restart x
[00:30] <Afromonkey0> stroganoff: so if i knew what i was doing i could just write that into it? Thing is i'm new to linux and not farmiliar with command line commands
[00:30] <garrett__> tyler: odd
[00:30] <nadjavox> funkyhat: i think that worked, i found what my current kernel version is, and set it it update
[00:30] <legend2440> bobsomebody: ati or nvidia?
[00:30] <thespecialone200> remoteCTRL: ok then how do i edit that? need to get into console somehow
[00:30] <garrett__> tyler: it sounds like something within the bowwels of gnome is still looking for alsa
[00:30] <tyler> garrett_: I'm getting a protocal not supported by server, xrdb: can't open dislpay: '0'
[00:30] <garrett__> tyler: have you tried removing the package?
[00:30] <bobsomebody> legend2440, one is Ati + Nvidia, other is all ATI
[00:30] <remoteCTRL> thespecialone200: press crtl+f2
[00:30] <garrett__> tyler: i'm going to google xrdb, hold on a second
[00:30] <tyler> garrett_: Alsa?
[00:31] <garrett__> tyler: er--maybe i misread
[00:31] <garrett__> tyler: yeah, alsa
[00:31] <remoteCTRL> thespecialone200: then use a editor of choice to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:31] <garrett__> tyler: alsa's a sound system
[00:31] <tyler> garrett_: ALSA is a sound driver right?
[00:31] <wildfire_> hello
[00:31] <groove> hi everyone, just want to thank all of you for the great support you all give to new users  THANK YOU
[00:31] <legend2440> bobsomebody: have you read this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=633647
[00:31] <wildfire_> just trying
[00:31] <tyler> garrett_: standby, it can't hurt
[00:31] <remoteCTRL> thespecialone200: uuuh sry ctrl+alt+f2 of course
[00:31] <jooos> I have a problem with "make" after I successfully do  ./configure and I try "make" here is what I get: No targets specified and no makefile found.
[00:32] <Afromonkey0> yeah guys, thanks for always giving it your best
[00:32] <wildfire_> how do i go to channels
[00:32] <garrett__> tyler: it's a sound interface.  sort of like a bunch of software that sits atop your sound card and allows you to do multi-channel sound when you only have one sound input (like you can listen to mp3s and still hear the audio queues from your mail client)
[00:32] <thespecialone200> remoteCTR1; long time since i was using those kind of things. how do i edit that file? and remember i need to have root access
[00:32] <ThreeFinity> so...I clean installed ubuntu 8.04 on new formatted partitions 3 times now..every time I reboot is says "failed to mount partition" but I can mount those drives from inside the live cd..
[00:32] <Afromonkey0> wildfire "/join #channelname"
[00:32] <lnar> joos try make install
[00:32] <Stroganoff> wildfire_: /j #chanel
[00:32] <nadjavox> funkyhat: here is the result - http://paste.ubuntu.com/14219/
[00:32] <ThreeFinity> Could that be a boot loader configuration problem or..?
[00:32] <jrib> jooos: read the README, read the output of ./configure carefully, if that does not help you, read the source code
[00:32] <remoteCTRL> thespecialone200: change back to your graphics console with ctrl+alt+f7 but you need to restart gdm before that in order to the changes to have effect
[00:32] <garrett__> tyler: if gnome was configured to use alsa as its sound interface, it might be blowing up somewhere when alsa's crashing
[00:32] <lnar> jooos try make install, or see readme
[00:32] <tyler> garrett_: But it crashed xfe interface as well
[00:33] <bobsomebody> legend2440, im loading it now :)
[00:33] <garrett__> tyler: ideally, if you remove alsa, gnome will reconfigure its self
[00:33] <grobda24> Hello. I just installed Ubuntu within windows from the CD. How do I access my windows drive from within what I assume is a mounted virtual drive. now I have Ubuntu booted ?
[00:33] <douglas> :s
[00:33] <garrett__> tyler: yeah, that i can't explain, but it started with alsa, so let's look there first
[00:33] <remoteCTRL> thespecialone200: well what editor do you use usually? like nano or joey or mcedit...?
[00:33] <lnar> jooos try make install, or see readme , or see make u need to build the programs what libraries are needed
[00:33] <tyler> garrett__:wish me luck,
[00:33] <suriro> Afromonkey0: your problem could be worse than just a missing menu.lst, since you're on wubi
[00:33] <garrett__> tyler: i'll cross my fingers for you
[00:33] <nadjavox> funkyhat: thanks again, i am going to reboot and see if that worked
[00:33] <remoteCTRL> thespecialone200: and yes you need to use sudo in order to open that file writable
[00:33] <garrett__> tyler: and if we have to, we can just reinstall X.  it shouldn't be much work
[00:33] <DaVinci2008> I have a problem
[00:33] <DaVinci2008> I installed Ubuntu
[00:34] <ariqs> suriro: they won't compile for me though. i get errors /:
[00:34] <Afromonkey0> suriro: i don't understand how it would happen though, i just did a hard reboot after a freeze up
[00:34] <DaVinci2008> I could mount my NTFS partitions from Places menu
[00:34] <tyler> garrett__:This is all Creative's fault, If they would just release a friggin proprietary driver none of this would have happened
[00:34] <ryoohki> is there a specific channel for speaking about dell omsa on ubuntu server 8.04 LTS?
[00:34] <jooos> it tells me : "no rule to make target install"
[00:34] <garrett__> tyler: hehe
[00:34] <garrett__> tyler: i feel your pain :P
[00:34] <DaVinci2008> but now an error appears: mount point cannot contain the following characters, newline, /
[00:34] <DaVinci2008> why?
[00:34] <tyler> garrett__: Looks like your gonna guide me through reinstalling xserver
[00:34] <DaVinci2008> I did nothing
[00:35] <DaVinci2008> just installed updates
[00:35] <tyler> garrett__:it didn't work
[00:35] <DaVinci2008> and wow
[00:35] <mack> interesting.
[00:35] <FloodBot3> DaVinci2008: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:35] <DaVinci2008> I cannot see my NTFS partitions
[00:35] <DaVinci2008> oh, sorry
[00:35] <DaVinci2008> I am new
[00:35] <tyler> garrett__:Booting back into failsafe
[00:35] <garrett__> tyler: can you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if there's anything interesting in there?
 if u want to automatically mount the partition, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[00:35] <DaVinci2008> ok
 sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[00:35] <tyler> garrett__: whats the command for that
[00:35] <garrett__> tyler: that's the log file for X.  if anything goofy's going on, it's a good bet that it'll be listed there.
[00:35] <thespecialone200> remoteCTR1: i think i used PICO or something..?
[00:35] <DaVinci2008> thanks!
[00:36] <poseidon> Is there a codec I can install to get dvd's to run with vlc/mplayer on ubuntu?
 sudo gedit /etc/fstab see there what says in the partition u are tryin to mount
[00:36] <garrett__> tyler: try 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[00:36] <thespecialone200> remoteCTR1 but it has to be in the ubuntu linux cause i have a standard install
[00:36] <DIL> cant mount my windows share says it is already mounted but i dont see it
[00:36] <Stroganoff> !medibuntu | poseidon
[00:36] <garrett__> tyler: that'll spit a whooole bunch of shit at you.  but you're probably only interested in the last 20lines or so
[00:36] <garrett__> tyler: you can use shift+pgup/shift+pgdown to scroll around
[00:36] <remoteCTRL> thespecialone200: what do you mean by that?
[00:36] <Broadcom> garrett__: no cursing
[00:36] <thespecialone200> remoteCTR1: my text editor
[00:36] <suriro> Afromonkey0: AFAIK wubi does not access hard disk natively.. that's not good for native failover mechanisms. You might seek some wubi centric support
[00:37] <DaVinci2008> so, the problem was that sudo thing. I had no permissions
[00:37] <thespecialone200> remoteCTR1: how about if i type "sudo gedit c:\xorg.conf" ?
[00:37] <garrett__> Broadcom: ah sorry
[00:37] <tyler> garrett__:hmmm alot of hex, I'm not seeing any errors. client 2 rejected from local hos (UID 1000)
[00:37] <Afromonkey0> suriro: thanks for the advice. do you know where i can get wubi-centric help?
[00:37] <DaVinci2008> can I be just root, bypassing sudo?
[00:37] <arpreply> date
[00:37] <garrett__> tyler: that probablyshouldn't be there
[00:37] <garrett__> tyler: xrdb was causing problems, you say?
[00:37] <Broadcom> DaVinci2008: use su
 sudo su
[00:37] <tyler> Garrett__:yes
[00:37] <arpreply> sudo -s
[00:38] <Broadcom> !tab > lnar
[00:38] <tyler> garrett__:I thought UID was a drive interface?
[00:38] <rickyfingers> DaVinci2008: sudo bash
[00:38] <DaVinci2008> my pass does not work
[00:38] <garrett__> tyler: it i
[00:38] <garrett__> tyler: it is
[00:38] <ThreeFinity> so...I clean installed ubuntu 8.04 on new formatted partitions 3 times now..every time I reboot is says "failed to mount partition" but I can mount those drives from inside the live cd..
[00:38] <Stroganoff> DaVinci2008 and use 'exit' when done rooting
[00:38] <DaVinci2008> does root has one password by default?
[00:38] <remoteCTRL> thespecialone200: well thatll not lead you to far as the file is not located in c: but as i am writing for the third time now in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:38] <dvs_> can you install ubuntu from a usb drive?
[00:38] <DaVinci2008> it worked, the sudo bash, thanks
[00:38] <arpreply> DaVinci2008: sudo -s to root and add a pass with passwd
[00:38] <Broadcom> !prefix | DaVinci2008
[00:38] <suriro> Afromonkey0: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234
[00:38] <tyler> garrett__:thanks for helping. non of the forums were posting anything that worked
[00:38] <DaVinci2008> ubottu: ok
[00:39] <garrett__> tyler: no worries.  i'm waiting on some friends, so i've got some time
[00:39] <Pxrbot> ﻿Hi, im trying to get my Wacom tablet running properly (its running as a mouse, not as a tablet) and ive got the things it gives me off Synaptic, any suggestions would be of great help, or a website thats 'linux-idiot proof'.. i.e me :)
[00:39] <sint> hey, is ubuntu using esd?
[00:39] <DaVinci2008> ubottu: the first bot with smileys
[00:39] <thespecialone200> remoteCTR1: ok so "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" ?
[00:39] <ihcus> hi ppl ....i got a prob for u ....pls help me ....i cannot increase the number of desktops from 1 ...
[00:39] <Afromonkey0> suriro: o right, thatnks
[00:39] <remoteCTRL> thespecialone200: yes for example
[00:39] <DaVinci2008> ubottu: really?
[00:39] <arpreply> ubottu: any chance i could get a date with your mom?
[00:39] <DaVinci2008> ubottu: this fellow could pass Turing test
[00:39] <tyler> lol harrassing the bots
[00:39] <lnar> ihcus are u using compiz?
[00:39] <Broadcom> please stop messing wtih ubuttu
[00:39] <DaVinci2008> ubottu: no
[00:39] <Afromonkey0> ubottu: less fun than bucket
[00:40] <Afromonkey0> sure ok
[00:40] <garrett__> tyler: i'm going to poke around my packages for a second and see if i can figure out a good way to do this; hold on a second
[00:40] <Broadcom> Please stop
[00:40] <ihcus> inar : thanks for replying
[00:40] <ihcus> inar : i am using compiz...
[00:40] <kumarphilly> how do i isntall vm server
[00:40] <Afromonkey0> i'm off. Thanls for the help guys
[00:40] <DaVinci2008> nice
[00:40] <ThreeFinity> so...I clean installed ubuntu 8.04 on new formatted partitions 3 times now..every time I reboot is says "failed to mount partition" but I can mount those drives from inside the live cd.. any ideas?
[00:40] <komputes> How can I tell what "module" (driver) a wifi card is using?
[00:40] <tyler> garrett__:copy
[00:40] <thespecialone200> remoteCTR1: ok thanks for your patience, ill give it a shot
[00:40] <kumarphilly> ThreeFinity, well windows partion or what? does it boot?
[00:40] <lnar> ihcus ok try installing compiz-manager
[00:40] <Broadcom> komputes: lspci
[00:40] <rickyfingers> komputes: modprobe | less
[00:40] <remoteCTRL> thespecialone200: np good luck and good night, hehe
[00:40] <rickyfingers> komputes: and lspci
[00:40] <DaVinci2008> I have another problem, I try to reproduce videos by streaming from a website, and the movie player stays there and does not play anything
[00:40] <dvs_> can you install ubuntu from a usb drive?
[00:41] <ihcus> inar: i have installed compiz manager...inside it i have opened the general settings
[00:41] <Stroganoff> ThreeFinity use the alternate cd
[00:41] <bazhang_> !usb | dvs_
[00:41] <lnar> ihcus there in general options u can increase the number of horizontal and vertical desktops
[00:41] <kumarphilly> vm server anyone?
[00:41] <rickyfingers> dvs_: you can, but last time I checked, you have to edit menu.lst after it's done
[00:41] <ihcus> inar: i have seen that thing but the number doesnt increase more than 1 ..its struck
[00:42] <dvs_> bazhang_ got me tanks do rickyfingers
[00:42] <ThreeFinity> kumarphilly: ext3, doesn't boot at all. says fails to mount when I select my kernel from grub
[00:42] <komputes> Broadcom: that doesn't show what module the card is using, i need to see the module name
[00:42] <arpreply> anyone played around with layer-2 ssh tunnels?
 grstreamer-properties and go to video options and try what works better
[00:42] <rickyfingers> kumarphilly: qemu
[00:42] <ThreeFinity> Stroganoff: alternate cd? I'm on the livecd atm.
[00:42] <ihcus> kumarphilly: which univ are u studying ?
[00:42] <Broadcom> komputes: sorry, see the other reply
 gstreamer-properties and go to video options and try what works better
[00:42] <DaVinci2008> lnar: ok
[00:42] <garrett__> tyler: which alsa package did you remove?
[00:42] <garrett__> tyler: alsa-base?
[00:42] <ThreeFinity> Stroganoff: it worked fine the last 5 installs or so, just stopped working lol
[00:42] <ThreeFinity> Stroganoff: checked the cd for errors and it came out fine
[00:42] <tyler> garrett__: lol I don't remember
[00:43] <AskHL> Hello.  For some reason I cannot prevent the screensaver from being run.  I have unchecked the "activate screensaver when computer is idle" checkmark in the gnome screensaver preferences.  The computer is on AC and has been configured in power manager to never do anything.  Can someone help disable this pesky automatic unwanted screensaving?
[00:43] <garrett__> tyler: try removing alsa-base
[00:43] <DaVinci2008> xset something
[00:43] <garrett__> tyler: that should remove all dependent packages
[00:43] <tyler> garrett__:just did, no luck
[00:43] <remoteCTRL> ha! i got the same issue AskHL
[00:43] <garrett__> tyler: same xrdb error?
 see if anyother user has it enable, see root...
[00:43] <komputes> rickyfingers: Broadcom:modprob needs an option in its usage and lspci does not show the module being used by this particular card
[00:44] <tyler> garrett__: Rebooting
[00:44] <garrett__> tyler: it's got to be your window manager that's mucking up... X has no native understanding of sound devices
[00:44] <rickyfingers> komputes: lspci tells you what hardware the o/s sees.
[00:44] <ihcus> inar: is there anything i should edit ?
[00:44] <AskHL> remoteCTRL, then at least I'm not alone!  There's a chance someone will get around to fixing it then, I suppose
[00:44] <Zaphod`> I was wondering if i could get some help getting my computer to duel boot properly? I found a thread last night thta would help me but I've been searching for ages now and I can't seem to find it again
[00:44] <Stroganoff> ThreeFinity try reinstalling with the alternate cd. or try a low level format before with your hdd vendor tools
[00:44] <arpreply> AskHL: have you restarted xscreensaver daemon?
[00:44] <tyler> garrett__:maybe i should sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:44] <komputes> rickyfingers: i need to know what mode is being used for that hardware
[00:44] <AskHL> lnar, "see root"?  What do you mean by that?
[00:44] <remoteCTRL> lnar: how should that affect if you are not logged in as root??
 what where u tryin to do? hehe im lost
[00:44] <komputes> rickyfingers: module*
[00:44] <rickyfingers> komputes: if you need to know what option you need, you need some documentation
[00:44] <Acorn> yay! ubuntu's installed!
[00:44] <Stroganoff> !alternate > ThreeFinity
[00:44] <kumarphilly> rickyfingers, what?
[00:44] <ariqs> /home/ryan/Desktop/ltmodem-2.6-alk-9/serial.c: In function ‘lt_set_termios’:
[00:44] <ariqs> /home/ryan/Desktop/ltmodem-2.6-alk-9/serial.c:489: warning: passing argument 2 of ‘uart_get_baud_rate’ from incompatible pointer type
[00:45] <Laurenceb> hi, I've just upgraded to 8.04, my system is very unresponsive, and I cant play wmv files
[00:45] <tyler> garrett__:still getting that error, time for kubuntu
[00:45] <remoteCTRL> AskHL: i hope so as that is extremstly annoying when watching movs
[00:45] <AskHL> arpreply, I will look into that.  I take it that it might be an artifact of having two different screen saver systems, gnome vs X
[00:45] <Laurenceb> they are corrupted
[00:45] <arpreply> Laurenceb: medibuntu.org
[00:45] <kumarphilly> rickyfingers, qemu ?
[00:45] <ihcus> inar: i can increase the horizontal and vertical desktops but i cannot increse the number of desktops!
[00:45] <garrett__> tyler: then gnome's mucking something up
[00:45] <Laurenceb> hmf
[00:45] <rickyfingers> kumarphilly: good vm for linux I use it all the time
 i had the same problem for reason, i enter x with root user and disable screensaver it did worl
[00:45] <Acorn> argh, my ubuntu is almost unusable, i can't set it to a reasonable resolution, what do i do?
[00:45] <Laurenceb> does anyone know what the problem is?
[00:45] <garrett__> tyler: as far as X is concerned, sound doesn't exist
[00:45] <komputes> rickyfingers: i have read the modprobe man page, there is nothing about identifying hardware or PCI ID
[00:45] <Laurenceb> as far as wmv goes?
[00:45] <garrett__> tyler: what happens if you type "startx"?
[00:46] <arpreply> Laurenceb: yea you don't have the codecs, browse to medibuntu and get the repositories, mf
[00:46] <tyler> garrett__: Gray sceen with x for cursor
[00:46] <AskHL> lnar, how exactly do you enter x?
[00:46] <garrett__> tyler: then X works
[00:46] <WIDESPREADpanic> how come it beeps evertime i touch a key on the keyboard?
[00:46] <komputes> rickyfingers: I can't correlate modprobe to lspci, do you know how this is done?
[00:46] <Zaphod`> Can someone tell me or point me towards something that will tell me how to make the duel booter see my Windows install? I installed Ubuntu last night and I'm rather lost
 there u can add more desktops virtual and horizontal and vertical, what effect are u tryin to enable?
[00:46] <WIDESPREADpanic> how come it beeps evertime i touch a key on the keyboard?
[00:46] <kumarphilly> rickyfingers, bette then virtual box and vm server?
[00:46] <garrett__> tyler: something in gnome is mucked.
[00:46] <tyler> garrett__:Yeah but the xfc I install is crashing it
[00:46] <DaVinci2008> sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf, no?
[00:46] <hexoroid> WIDESPREADpanic,  no need to repeat
[00:46] <garrett__> tyler: you could try fluxbox just to get it up and running
 login as root
[00:46] <ihcus> inar : i cannot get the cube working ...
[00:46] <WIDESPREADpanic> sorry
[00:46] <Acorn> ﻿my ubuntu is almost unusable, i can't set it to a reasonable resolution, what do i do?
[00:47] <rickyfingers> komputes: use lsmod | less this will tell you whether or not a module is loaded.
[00:47] <tyler> garrett__:I can't fetch any archives
[00:47] <garrett__> tyler: apt-get install fluxbox
[00:47] <garrett__> tyler: oooh
[00:47] <garrett__> tyler: no network?
[00:47] <ihcus> inar:i think i need to increse the number of desktops on my computer but i am unable to do it ..
[00:47] <kumarphilly> Acorn, crappy vid card or soemthing? drivers maybe
[00:47] <arpreply> Acorn: what is your video ?
[00:47] <rickyfingers> If the module is loaded, and hardware is not working the way you think it should the problem is not with the driver.
[00:47] <tyler> garrett__: Yeah it's down know
[00:47] <kumarphilly> rickyfingers, so is it comparable to vm server and virtual box
[00:47] <Acorn> nvidia gforce4 ti 4200
[00:47] <tyler> garrett__:looks like another clean install
[00:47] <AskHL> lnar, I can sudo.  Is that not good enough?  I don't have the root user enabled
[00:47] <Acorn> i installed the restricted driver
[00:47] <Acorn> *enabled
[00:47] <garrett__> tyler: hm
[00:48] <komputes> rickyfingers: what good is a loaded module if the hardware isn't using it?
[00:48] <tyler> garrett__:Would any of this be on the install cd?
[00:48] <NitroGlyceriX> Hi folks ;)
[00:48] <garrett__> tyler: everything but fluxbox should be
[00:48] <Laurenceb> hmm theres so much on medibuntu
[00:48] <NitroGlyceriX> question : with which command can I see if a program belongs to main, restricted, universe or multiverse ?
[00:48] <Acorn> but now my maximum resolution has got even smaller!
[00:48] <rickyfingers> kumarphilly: Yes, but it is more "bare bones" you have to install any software by hand.
[00:48] <Laurenceb> and my system is extremely unresponsive
 u can increase the number of virtual desktops only... so u should be able to do so if u are usin compiz with compiz-manager if u have not enable compiz then in gnome applet there is an application that does that
[00:48] <Starnestommy> NitroGlyceriX: aptitude show packagename
[00:48] <garrett__> tyler: you could reinstall xserver-xorg
[00:48] <arpreply> Laurenceb: not really, add the repos and follow the guide for the 'entire repo'
[00:48] <NitroGlyceriX> Starnestommy, tx so much
[00:49] <garrett__> tyler: that should blow away all your old configs
[00:49] <rickyfingers> But it's great for running something like plain old debian.  Works fine in Ubuntu.
[00:49] <Laurenceb> can anyone advise me what packages to get then?
[00:49] <garrett__> tyler: and save you the hour and a half of reinstall time
[00:49] <bazhang_> WIDESPREADpanic, go to sound prefs (tab) system beep and uncheck
[00:49] <tyler> garrett__:how would I tell it to access the cd an not the repositories?
[00:49] <rickyfingers> To get started, google, "ubuntu windows xp"
[00:49] <arpreply> Laurenceb: there is one for dvd and one for non-free codecs
[00:49] <ThreeFinity> in the example (hd0,0) the first 0 is the drive and the 2nd 0 is the partition correct?
[00:49] <komputes> How can I tell what "module" (driver) a specific wifi card is using?
 enable root login and do so, then restart, desable root login i had the same problem and solve it that way
[00:49] <garrett__> tyler: mount the disk, then dpkg --insatll package.deb
[00:49] <arpreply> "read with your eyes"
[00:49] <Acorn> arpreply: what do you think?
[00:49] <Laurenceb> ok, but it will take me 5 minutes just to load up the window
[00:49] <garrett__> tyler: if it doesn't work, worst case scenario is that you've spent an extra 5minutes
[00:49] <kumarphilly> rickyfingers, can i talk to you in #magicjack plz? hard to get through in #ubuntu lol
[00:49] <Laurenceb> top shows processor use at around 15%
[00:49] <Laurenceb> dont get it
[00:50] <tyler> garrett__:thanks for you help
[00:50] <WIDESPREADpanic> thanks
[00:50] <rickyfingers> komputes: What I'm trying to show you is there are certain commands you can use to determine whether or not the o/s sees the hardware, and whether or not drivers are loaded to use the hardware.
[00:50] <ihcus> inar: can u be clear..as i have already installed advanced compiz settings ...and it is located in my system under the preferences
[00:50] <komputes> rickyfingers: it's the in-between (correlation) that i'm looking for
[00:50] <rickyfingers> komputes: once you eliminate these factors of the o/s, you can further troubleshoot.
[00:50] <tyler> garrett__:Anyway you think i could fix it with the live cd?
[00:50] <arpreply> Acorn: restricted driver with 8.04 should be ok.. run install and run nvidia-settings.  describe exactly what it's doing.
[00:51] <lnar> ihcus, wait one sec i have spanish version of ubunut
[00:51] <garrett__> tyler: the package should be there, yes
[00:51] <Acorn> arpreply: run install?
[00:51] <arpreply> Acorn: install..
[00:51] <garrett__> tyler: if you can get X installed from the live cd, then the package has to be there.
[00:51] <AskHL> lnar, thank you.  I will do that
[00:51] <Acorn> arpreply: run what install?
[00:51] <tyler> garrett__:ok, the live cd boots just fine, i guess I should have mentioned that
[00:51] <DaVinci2008> entonces lnar habla español?
[00:51] <lnar> ihcus, ok... are u sure that u are runin compiz??? in appearance u have desktop effects enable????
[00:51] <ihcus> inar: ok dude
[00:52] <lnar> si davinchi pero aca solo ingles
[00:52] <Fishscene> Is it possible to run 32-bit programs in Ubuntu 64-bit
[00:52] <komputes> rickyfingers: I don't understand what factors i have to eliminate, i just understand "Card" + "Module" = "Working", I know the card and it's PCI ID, I know 2 or three drivers it COULD be using, i need to confirm which one itt IS using
[00:52] <garrett__> tyler: see if you can find xserver-xorg on there anywhere
[00:52] <arpreply> Acorn: do you have any X at all or are you strictly console? ﻿Acorn: sudo apt-get nvidia-settings
[00:52] <ihcus> inar: sure i have enabled them
[00:52] <garrett__> tyler: or any xorg .deb files
[00:52] <DaVinci2008> lnar: cool!
[00:52] <DaVinci2008> talking about languages... I installed French packages but it appears in English, everything
[00:52] <lnar> ok ihcus
[00:52] <DaVinci2008> even Mozilla
[00:52] <rickyfingers> komputes: dmesg | less
[00:52] <ihcus> inar: desktop effects enable???? i have only advanced compiz settings
[00:52] <Fishscene> DaVinci2008, did you set your default language to French?
[00:52] <lnar> the go to desktop size tab
[00:53] <Acorn> arpreply: what does X mean? I've just installed ubuntu, got the updates, then enables the restricted driver which popped up.. then restarted again
[00:53] <DaVinci2008> ?
[00:53] <Acorn> arpreply: should i disable it and do it through terminal instead?
[00:53] <lnar> and there is an option for each horizontal and vertical number of desktops, and under those options u have another option for number of desktops
[00:53] <tyler> garrett__:Alright booting in now
[00:53] <garrett__> tyler: cool
[00:53] <DaVinci2008> Acorn: XWindows, of course
[00:53] <fxfitz> Is it possible to connect to a samba fileshare that is OUTSIDE the current "workgroup" you're on?
[00:53] <ThreeFinity> # /dev/sda1
[00:53] <ThreeFinity> UUID=93dc288f-0439-45fb-b505-160dc1bc7645 /               ext3    relatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[00:53] <arpreply> Acorn: if you want to set your resolution easily.  Run nvidia-settings and configure your screen.  Type 'sudo apt-get nvidia-settings' in a console
[00:54] <komputes> rickyfingers: ubuntu's in need of a Device Manager
[00:54] <ThreeFinity> Anything in taht line that looks wrong? that might keep a partition from mounting at boot?
[00:54] <DaVinci2008> Fishscene: yes, I did. But after restarting, it is still in English
[00:54] <Fishscene> No idea =\
[00:54] <ihcus> inar:exactly
[00:54] <lnar> ihcus if u dont see the desktops see if u have the desktop applet enable rightclickin on the gnome panel then add to panel...
[00:54] <Fishscene> ﻿﻿Is it possible for 64-bit Ubuntu to run 32-bit applications? (such as  flash or programs under WINE)
[00:55] <Starnestommy> Fishscene: it is
[00:55] <ihcus> inar: that is where i stumbled i cannot increase the number more than 1 ...although i see the column
[00:55] <Fishscene> Awesome. Thanks
[00:55] <Zaphod`> Could someone give me a hand with something? the bootloader menu list thing doesnt have my Windows install listena dn I dont want to FUBAR anything
[00:55] <Acorn> arpreply: ""E: Invalid operation nvidia-settings
[00:55] <powertool08> gnome crashes when i log into, can anyone help me find out why? i've checked some logs but don't know what i'm looking for
[00:55] <rickyfingers> Fishscene: absolutely, you may need to set up a chroot'ed environment.  Google is your friend.
[00:55] <arpreply> Acorn: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[00:55] <komputes> rickyfingers: this doesn't really help me, it's quite verbose and not containing any searchable keywords relating to the hardware OR the module
[00:55] <Starnestommy> Fishscene: you'll need ia32-libs installed, though
[00:55] <garrett__> powertools: any way to pastebin your Xorg.0.log file?
[00:55] <Fishscene> mmk.. sounds like a project to tackle when I have some time. :) Thanks guys.
[00:56] <arpreply> (why aren't we having nvidia-settings run upon reboot after the restricted install?)
[00:56] <lnar> ihcus ok u have the cube plugin enable?
[00:56] <powertool08> garrett__: not sure... its not this computer
[00:56] <arpreply> "your resolution sucks, click here to configure"
[00:56]  * delcoyote hi
[00:56] <DaVinci2008> Does anybody know how to really change the language of Ubuntu? I changed it to French, but everything is still in English...
[00:56] <garrett__> powertool08: does anything look "odd"?
[00:56] <danbhfive> arpreply: you dont need nvidia-settings if you use restricted drivers manager
[00:56] <DaVinci2008> and Ubuntu downloaded some packages in French
[00:57] <garrett__> powertool08: like.. anything about error or failure or resource?
[00:57] <arpreply> danbhfive: oh
[00:57] <rickyfingers> komputes: dmesg will tell you what hardware the o/s detects.  lspci will confirm that the hardware is detected at runtime, lsmod will tell you what is running, and what modules depend on what.  Use that information to determine what modules are driving what hardware.   In the end, my question is, what hardware is not working like you think it should be?
[00:57] <mohamed__> Is gdesklets like screenlets of they different ?
[00:57] <powertool08> garrett__: hold on, i'll check it real quick
[00:57] <tyler> garrett__:jump into #ubuntuforums
[00:57] <lnar> ihcus to see different desktops in the cube u have to increase the number of horizontal desktops  for example 4, not the number of desktops
[00:57] <Acorn> arpreply: hehe, okay it's installed now, how to i get to the settings?
[00:58] <arpreply> Acorn: gksudo nvidia-settings, then 'X server settings' on the left tree
[00:58] <lnar> ihcus to see different desktops in the cube u have to increase the number of horizontal virtual desktops  for example 4, not the number of desktops
[00:58] <mohamed__> !gdesklets > mohamed__
[00:58] <Acorn> arpreply: okay, i see it, why is it called server settings?
[00:58] <ihcus> inar: i have done this
[00:59] <lnar> ihcus, so what plugin are u tryin to enable???
[00:59] <powertool08> garrett__: (!!) mergedFB support has been removed and replaced with xrandr 1.2
[00:59] <alastair1> does anyone know offhand how to send an email using a bash script?
[00:59] <ihcus> its not the plugin i am trying ...i am trying to increase the number of desktops
[00:59] <komputes> rickyfingers: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=801387  i just loaded the rt73 module but I don't know if it's using the module that was used at auto detection or if it's using rt73
[00:59] <alastair1> I've got as far as using mail but I can't figure out how to run it non-interactively
[00:59] <arpreply> Acorn: your screen is actually a client that calls into a server that provides a display.  it's called a display server.  tell it what resolution you want.
[01:00] <lnar> ihcus if u have cube, horizontal desktops will work, and if u dont see the change then u dont have compiz runin
[01:00] <garrett__> powertool08: hm.  those are both used for multiple-monitor configurations
[01:00] <Ringwaith> hmm
[01:00] <garrett__> powertool08: did X ever work?
[01:00] <powertool08> garrett__: (WW) Radeon(0): DRI init changed memory map, adjusting ...
[01:00] <garrett__> powertool08: or did it just magically break?
[01:00] <rickyfingers> komputes: all you need to do is examine the output of lsmod | less
[01:00] <Ringwaith> /server -m irc.thyexile.net
[01:01] <Acorn> arpreply: I can't change the settings, because my resolution is low, it keeps moving the window partly onto my other work area when I click.
[01:01] <Ringwaith> /server -m irc.thyexile.net -j #Main
[01:01] <ihcus> inar: the horizontal cube is working i mean i can rotate but i ctrl+alt+ down key is not working ?
[01:01] <powertool08> garrett__: yes it did, i can't remember what i changed to break it, i know i was trying to get it to have one resolution on the laptop screen, another on a non-widescreen secondary
[01:01] <Ringwaith> &
[01:01] <WIDESPREADpanic> how do i copy directories in bash , cp isnt working
[01:01] <garrett__> powertool08: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, comment out 'Load "DRI"' in the modules section -- to comment something out, place a # in front of the line
[01:01] <Ringwaith> **
[01:01] <ihcus> inar: how do i check if compiz is running or not ?
[01:01] <Starnestommy> WIDESPREADpanic: cp -r
[01:01] <garrett__> powertool08: in fact, comment out everything in modules
[01:01] <rickyfingers> WIDESPREADpanic: cp -rRp
[01:01] <arpreply> danbhfive: why would Acorn's screen be like that after installing via restricted?  that doesn't seem right
[01:02] <WIDESPREADpanic> what does -rRp stand for?
[01:02] <powertool08> garrett__: i also tried to get compiz to start with gnome but something wasn't starting right and it loaded some of compiz but didn't have window decorations
[01:02] <danbhfive> arpreply: like what?  I havent been following closely
[01:02] <lnar> if the cube rotates then its runin... then see in rotate cube plugin... u have to configure compiz and each plugin u want to make it run like u want....
[01:02] <ntorido> what would be the problem if you dont get smooth text in ubuntu.I have a laptop that does it very well but my desktop  has font that looks like fuzzy
[01:02] <rickyfingers> WIDESPREADpanic: man cp
[01:02] <arpreply> i've never installed restricted and had 640x480..
[01:02] <dextrous_> Hey, not long ago install Ubuntu and I'm having problems with sound, works on start up (drum roll after log on) but no where else any ideas?
[01:02] <Starnestommy> WIDESPREADpanic: recursive, recursive, and make new parent directories at the target location if they don't exist
[01:02] <DIL> f
[01:02] <garrett__> powertool08: gconftool-2 –type string –set /apps/gnome-session/rh/window_manager “metacity”
[01:02] <komputes> rickyfingers: thanks: it was lsmod, which correlates with the name on dmesg
[01:03] <garrett__> powertool08: that'll disable compiz
[01:03] <arpreply> Acorn: you're going to need to use your alt key and left click to move the window over.. it grabs the window anywhere so you can slide it on to your screen where the buttons are.  sorry it's hard.
[01:03] <jrib> WIDESPREADpanic: man cp  explains what they do
[01:03] <imjesus_1> what happen to beryl
[01:03] <WIDESPREADpanic> are there any benefits of ubuntu compared to fedore?
[01:03] <danbhfive> !beryl > imjesus_1
[01:03] <Starnestommy> imjesus_1: it merged with compiz to form compiz-fusion
[01:03] <rickyfingers> komputes: no problemo dude.  device drivers are always a pain in the a$$
[01:03] <arpreply> Acorn: hold down left alt key and drag the window to where you need it
[01:03] <imjesus_1> where do i bget it
[01:04] <jrib> WIDESPREADpanic: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:04] <powertool08> garrett__: i don't see a modules section...
[01:04] <jrib> imjesus_1: system -> preferences -> appearance -> visual effects
[01:04] <komputes> rickyfingers: i hear that!
[01:04] <garrett__> powertool08: also, i haven't tried doing dual-head display stuff in a couple of years, but the last time i was, it was unable to do different resolutions in multiple displays
[01:04] <garrett__> powertool08: hm.
[01:04] <garrett__> powertool08: try just disabling compiz
[01:05] <Acorn> arpreply: is it possible to lock it in place? :P
[01:05] <ihcus> inar: my headphone jack is not working and i cannot listen to sounds from my headphones
[01:05] <ntolo> Actually what the problem can be if you dont get smooth text in ubuntu
[01:05] <garrett__> powertool08: using the command i said earlier
 see soundconfig appelt in gnome in properties check that
[01:06] <ntolo> I have another laptop running ubuntu too but its font is very smooth.
[01:06] <Acorn> arpreply: argh, now i can't reach the bottom of the window, it get's stuck at the top of the screen
[01:06] <imjesus_1> where do i get compiz
[01:06] <ihcus> inar: i have done this before and it still doesnt work
[01:06] <powertool08> garrett__: error while parsing options: unknow option -type
[01:06] <Starnestommy> imjesus_1: sudo apt-get install compiz
[01:06] <fut> google compiz
[01:06] <garrett__> powertool08: huh.  try just uninstalling compiz
[01:06] <jrib> imjesus_1: I just told you
[01:06] <Acorn> arpreply: I have a feeling the only resolution setting is auto :(
[01:06] <imjesus_1> i type that in terminal
[01:06] <lnar> ihcus... mmmmmmm what sound card u have?
[01:07] <jrib> imjesus_1: I told you how to enable it through the menus
[01:07] <ihcus> inar: idont see any headphone options in it
[01:07] <WIDESPREADpanic> so why doesnt ubuntu come with a software firewall?
[01:07] <garrett__> powertool08: unfortunately, I have a hard time sorting out X problems less I can actually see the configuration files :(
[01:07] <WIDESPREADpanic> security risk
[01:07] <imjesus_1> ok thx
[01:07] <Starnestommy> WIDESPREADpanic: it does.  It's called iptables
[01:07] <ihcus> inar: i have intel ich8...the big problem with lenovo y 410 laptop
[01:07] <jrib> !firewall | WIDESPREADpanic
[01:07] <rickyfingers> WIDESPREADpanic: firestarter
[01:07] <dextrous_> Hey, not long ago install Ubuntu and I'm having problems with sound, works on start up (drum roll after log on) but no where else any ideas?
[01:07] <lnar> ihcus see edit preferences and check there if headphones are enable
[01:07] <ntolo> If you dont get smooth text in ubutnu would that be anything to do with the resolution ?
[01:07] <WIDESPREADpanic> thanks ricky
[01:08] <rickyfingers> WIDESPREADpanic: or read up on iptables commands
[01:08] <ihcus> inar: there is no headphones option in the menu
[01:08] <danbhfive> ntolo: are you using an lcd?
[01:08] <lnar> ihcus... edit preferences
[01:08] <garrett__> ntolo: have you tried looking around for "antialiased fonts in ubuntu" on google or something?
[01:08] <ntolo> Yes am using an Asus LCD
[01:08] <danbhfive> ntolo: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:09] <danbhfive> ntolo: FYI, that package breaks java
[01:09] <ihcus> inar: yes there is no headphones
[01:09] <powertool08> garrett__: to remove compiz it wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop... would reseting to a basic xorg.conf help?
[01:09] <lnar> ihcus what sound card u have?
[01:09] <Acorn> arpreply: yeah, i can't change the resolution, the only option is auto
[01:09] <arpreply> Acorn: Acorn: type 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and follow the menus.. save the X file and reboot.  then try nvidia-settings again.. it will tell you to type a command to set up the driver again.
[01:10] <lnar> ihcus re install alsa and alsa-base and try again
[01:10] <Acorn> arpreply: okay, i'll give that a go
[01:10] <ihcus> inar: i had tried the same option toooo
[01:10] <ntolo> I need java.The thing is my eclipse looks pale white i cant program anymore.
[01:11] <imjesus_1> i got compiz .6.2 how do i install it
[01:11] <jrib> !java > ntolo (read the private message from ubottu)
[01:11] <Acorn> arpreply: should i tell it to use kernel frambuffer?
[01:11] <lnar> ihcus google then im sorry
[01:11] <danbhfive> !who > ntolo if you want to talk to me, you need to mention my name.  Otherwise, I miss your msgs
[01:12] <kirby22> hello, ubuntu plays joined tracks in audio cds with cuts between them, any help? regards
[01:12] <ihcus> inar: one more thing...can u tell me how to use virtual box
[01:12] <ntolo> danbhfive : thanks
[01:12] <netpro25> Anyone know of a cli where I can monitor http traffic specifically URLs requested?
[01:13] <garrett__> powertool08: yeah, resetting to the default desktop would probably solve your problems
[01:13] <Choreboy> Anyone know where I can find a blackberry channel?
[01:13] <rickyfingers> netpro25: you can start with tcpdump
[01:13] <garrett__> powertool08: does typing "startx" bring up a gray background?
[01:13] <netpro25> rickyfingers: thanks
[01:13] <ntolo> danbhfive : So how come the fonts in my laptop are so smooth while i did not have to tweak it even a bit ?
[01:13] <garrett__> powertool08: if so, then X is fine
[01:14] <rickyfingers> netpro25: tcpdump | grep will enable youj to pull specific information out of packets.
[01:14] <danbhfive> ntolo: so the problem is fixed?
[01:14] <powertool08> garrett__: dpkg-reconfigure xsession-xorg isn't fixing it, it starts to login, i get the login sound but its freezing at a black screen with "x" cursor
 sure... do u have it installed??? once u done that when u run it there is a wizard that tells u all u have to do... and if for some reason u can not run the virtual machine u have to change some permision i dont remember exactly have to create a group called virtuabox and add ur user or something like that, i found how in google
[01:14] <netpro25> rickyfingers: thanks
[01:14] <dextrous_> Hey, not long ago install Ubuntu and I'm having problems with sound, works on start up (drum roll after log on) but no where else any ideas?
[01:14] <Yarcanox> I installed the "mingw32 cross compiler"-package but can't find the cross compiler executable - how is it named?
[01:14] <powertool08> garrett__: if i start x with sudo command it works fine, i think its just my user thats messed up
[01:14] <ntolo> danbhfive : I dont wanna break java.Anyway i will try it and see what happens.
[01:15] <kumarphilly> could i convert an RPM of vm server to deb and install vm server that way?
[01:15] <ihcus> inar: i have used the wizard ....but i am unable to install the windows xp sp2
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> kumarphilly NOt the best way to get that done
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !rpm
[01:15] <Starnestommy> kumarphilly: you could, but it would be very unlikely that the .rpm would be would be converted properly
[01:15] <lnar> ihcus sudo usermod -G vboxusers -a name of user
[01:16] <danbhfive> ntolo: well, if the command I gave you solved the problem, then here is the reason.  That package install several things, including some proprietary MS fonts.  (it also installs a broken java package)
[01:16] <kumarphilly> why is it dangerous and unlikiley Jack_Sparrow  and Starnestommy
[01:16] <lnar> ihcus sudo usermod -G vboxusers -a name of user
[01:16] <Acorn> arpreply: okay, it asked me load of questions about my keyboard, and now it's finished
[01:16] <Starnestommy> kumarphilly: because .rpms contain different metadata than .debs and use different scripts
[01:16] <lnar> ihcus enable cd boot from the properties of vbox and install the system...
[01:16] <paperless> can anyone help me with a shell doubt
[01:16] <paperless> im going crazy
[01:16] <ihcus> inar:just a sec
[01:17] <paperless> this was suppsoed to work
[01:17] <jrib> paperless: best to just ask (on one line)
[01:17] <Yarcanox> does anyone know how the executable of the "mingw32" cross compiler is named/how I can find out? I can't find it and therefore not use the cross compiler :(
[01:17] <paperless> yeah
[01:17] <paperless> sorry
[01:17] <kumarphilly> grr
[01:17] <Yarcanox> I remember it being gcc-mingw32-x86, but that doesn't seem to exist
[01:17] <kumarphilly> but i want vm server!
[01:17] <paperless> where can i drop some code
[01:17] <rickyfingers> paperless: can you be more precise about the problem?
[01:17] <Starnestommy> kumarphilly: because of that, it will be very likely that it won't corrrectly install or uninstall
[01:17] <kumarphilly> and i dont get how i should install it
[01:17] <lnar> ihcus i have to go man sorry....
[01:17] <jrib> Yarcanox: dpkg -L PACKAGE | grep bin   may get you closer
[01:17] <paperless> im trying to compare two strings
[01:17] <paperless> why doesnt this work
[01:17] <paperless> #!/bin/bash
[01:17] <paperless> var1="estou"
[01:17] <paperless> var2="farto"
[01:17] <paperless> 	if [ "$var1"="$var2" ];then
[01:17] <FloodBot3> paperless: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:17] <paperless> 		echo "são iguais..."
[01:17] <Starnestommy> kumarphilly: if there's a .deb, use that.  if there isn't, look for a .tat.gz or .tar.bz2
[01:17] <Starnestommy> *.tar.gz
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot | paperless
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot | paperless
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> paperless try /join #bash
[01:18] <kumarphilly> well i see tar but idk how to work a tar Starnestommy assitance?
[01:18] <Acorn> how do you stop windows snapping?
[01:18] <paperless> thank you
[01:18] <lars_bauer> how do i open a <name>.acu file ?
[01:18] <rickyfingers> paperless: get rid of the quotation marks in the if statement.
[01:18] <Starnestommy> kumarphilly: extract it, then read the readme or install files in it
[01:19] <jrib> !away > lnar-ImNotHere (read the private message from ubottu)
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Acorn turn off that feature in ccsm
[01:19] <tyler_2> I cannot enable the desktop effects on 7.10 with an nvidia card, produces a generic error and nothing definative written to my log files?
[01:19] <paperless> rickyfingers, ive tried that
[01:19] <paperless> didnt work
[01:19] <Acorn> Jack_Sparrow: is that in preferences?
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Acorn advenced desktop effects in the menus
[01:20] <axisys_> my eth1 intel pro wireless does not find any wireless connection since i upgraded to hardy
[01:20] <axisys_> iwconfig shows radio off for eth1
[01:20] <mluser-home> Is there a problem printing from a 64 bit ubuntu box to a 32 bit system running cups?
[01:21] <amenado> axisys_-> is it using intel 3945 chip?
[01:21] <axisys_> ifconfig does not show eth1 until I up'd it manually..
[01:21] <powertool08> garrett__: i tried startx in a failsafe terminal login and it says user not authorized to run X server, couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console
[01:22] <Stroganoff> powertool08 you were root. root cant startx
[01:22] <powertool08> Stroganoff: i tried it as mynormal user
[01:22] <Stroganoff> you need to go to runlevel 5 i think
[01:23] <powertool08> Stroganoff: how?
[01:23] <imjesus_1> i got compiz 0.6.2
[01:23] <Stroganoff> sudo init 5
[01:23] <imjesus_1> how do i install
[01:23] <garrett__> powertool08: interesting...
[01:23] <garrett__> powertool08: try "sudo startx"
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> imjesus_1 /join #compiz
[01:23] <Stroganoff> imjesus_1 0.7.4 is in the hardy repos
[01:23] <seracht> hi
[01:23] <imjesus_1> wahts
[01:23] <seracht> I am trying to install emerald themes
[01:23] <seracht> but I cannot find it in Synaptic
[01:24] <Acorn> Jack_Sparrow: is it the "place windows" option?
[01:24] <powertool08> garrett__: server already active for display 0
[01:24] <robbie``> probably need to update the repositories
[01:24] <rickyfingers> paperless: get rid of the quotation marks in the if statement.and use the right equality operator, -eq not =
[01:24] <axisys_> amenado: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14230/
[01:24] <garrett__> powertool08: ps auxw | grep X
[01:24] <garrett__> powertool08: is X still running?
[01:24] <Stroganoff> seracht: its not available it seems.. http://packages.ubuntu.com/emerald-themes
[01:24] <paperless> rickyfingers,  -eq is for integers
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Acorn system.. pref.. advanced desktop
[01:24] <powertool08> garrett__: yes, i tried to kill it but it keeps restarting
[01:25] <garrett__> powertool08: /etc/init.d/edm stop
[01:25] <seracht> Stroganoff how do I install Clearlooks then
[01:25] <garrett__> powertool08: killall -9 edm
[01:25] <seracht> having so much trouble with that
[01:25] <kumarphilly> Jack_Sparrow, any other easy to install and use virtualization sofware... wanna have virtual windows and vmserver inst working out for me
[01:25] <amenado> axisys_-> is it using intel 3945 chip?  you can not answer this?
[01:25] <garrett__> powertool08: ps auxw | grep X  --- grab the pid, then kill -9 the process id
[01:25] <axisys_> amenado: let me check
[01:25] <garrett__> powertool08: that'll kill it
[01:25] <tyler_2> kumarphilly: qemu
[01:25] <rickyfingers> kumarphilly: I'm telling you, qemu.
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> kumarphilly I dual boot and avoid virtual soultions
[01:25] <powertool08> garrett__: ok its stopped
[01:26] <jrib> rickyfingers: = is the proper way to compare strings.  -eq is for numbers
[01:26] <axisys_> amenado: hmm lspci does not show it
[01:26] <axisys_> amenado: how do I find out?
[01:26] <coil> someone knows linus?
[01:26] <jrib> !ot | coil
[01:26] <rickyfingers> jrib: then you debug paperless's code!
[01:26] <coil> someone know ?
[01:27] <jrib> rickyfingers: #bash took care of it already, just passing that tidbit along
[01:27] <seracht> anyone?
[01:27] <robbie``> linus and i go way back
[01:27] <seracht> how can I install clearlooks
[01:27] <kumarphilly> rickyfingers, oh right i forgot... in synaptic? and Jack_Sparrow pfft... no thats waht i am avoiding!
[01:27] <nikoboy> hi
[01:27] <seracht> It says I have to compile the source?!?!
[01:27] <nikoboy> where can i select another login theme?
[01:27] <jrib> seracht: it's installed by default
[01:27] <nikoboy> i already download the one i want
[01:27] <coil> i need to talk to him
[01:27] <coil> about my problem
[01:27] <jrib> nikoboy: system -> administration -> login window
[01:27] <robbie``> whats your problem
[01:27] <robbie``> i'll relay the message for you
[01:27] <seracht> thanks
[01:28] <coil> grub isn't booting
[01:28] <Stroganoff> seracht http://www.compiz-themes.org/
[01:28] <rickyfingers> kumarphilly: google windows xp ubuntu. That will get you a howto that explains using qemu in Ubuntu.
[01:28] <robbie``> linus didn't develop grub
[01:28] <coil> i know
[01:28] <robbie``> so why would you want to talk to him about that
[01:28] <Acorn> this is driving me insane, can someone help me get my resolution to work? :(
[01:28] <coil> can you still help me with grub
[01:28] <robbie``> whats the problem
[01:28] <Jack_Sparrow> coil what distro or release are you running
[01:29] <coil> 8.094
[01:29] <rickyfingers> kumarphilly: my bad, add qemu to that google.
[01:29] <coil> -9
[01:29] <robbie``> did you make the partitions first w/ fdisk
[01:29] <ryanakca> PedanticSteve: back, sorry, did you resolve the problem?
[01:29] <coil> yes
[01:29] <coil> i have a separate /boot partition
[01:29] <coil> and a /
[01:29] <robbie``> and set your ext3 to active or bootable
[01:29] <kumarphilly> rickyfingers, i get a link to help.ubuntu in google but it is for 7.10 and 7.04 running 8.04 here
[01:29] <coil> i can mount the partitions
[01:29] <jrib> !enter | coil
[01:29] <coil> robbie``: fdisk shows as it's already marked as bootable
[01:29] <robbie``> did you make /boot active in fdisk
[01:30] <coil> it has the * next do /boot
[01:30] <axisys_> anyone uses hp nc 6220 with inter centrino chip? my wireless stopped working since the upgrade
[01:30] <coil> but my linux hard disk is the second drive (sdb)
[01:30] <robbie``> are you dual booting
[01:30] <coil> sda is winxp
[01:30] <coil> yes
[01:31] <axisys_> i used to get a list of wifi channels with 7.10
[01:31] <garrett__> powertool08: get it working?
[01:31] <axisys_> intel centrino I meant
[01:31] <rickyfingers> kumarphilly: then you have just run into an opportunity to prove it works in 8.04. Congratulations most people don't recognize opportunity because it wears overalls and looks like work.
[01:31] <robbie``> coil: not sure
[01:31] <kumarphilly> ite
[01:32] <Stroganoff> seracht i just got the info that emerald has been merged back into compiz. uninstall emerald, update compiz (are you on hardy)
[01:33] <Acorn> can someone help me get my screen resolution sorted?
[01:33] <Byron1> Acorn what is the problem?
[01:33] <Acorn> Byron1: I'm limited to 640x480
[01:34] <Byron1> Acorn what video card?
[01:34] <hyperhacker> hello, I'm trying to repair the FAT32 filesystem on an SD card, and fsck.vfat says: Read 32 bytes at 1024278528:Input/output error
[01:34] <powertool08> garrett__: ok i stopped gdm then started X from the command line with my normal user, it loaded the background and some of the taskbar stuff, and i got the error "user switcher has quit unexpectedly, if you reload a panel object, it will automatically be added back to the panel reload or not?"
[01:34] <Acorn> Byron1: nvidia gforce4 Ti 4200
[01:34] <rickyfingers> Acorn: get smart about /etc/Xorg.conf
[01:34] <Byron1> Acorn are you using restricted driver?
[01:34] <powertool08> garrett__: and then it locks up, so i guess my problem is with the user switcher?
[01:35] <Acorn> Byron1: yes
[01:35] <garrett__> powertool08: possibly
[01:36] <garrett__> powertool08: i'm not entirely sure
[01:36] <Anyday> anyone have any idea's why my mouse and keyboard will only work in recovery mode? any ideas on how to enable them in regular mode?
[01:36] <garrett__> powertool08: i'm not sure why user switchher would crash
[01:36] <Acorn> having the resolution so low makes my computer unusable :(
[01:36] <powertool08> garrett__: is there a way to disable the user switcher to see if that helps?
[01:36] <garrett__> powertool08: let alone why it'd crash
[01:37] <garrett__> powertool08: user switcher is an applet loaded by gnome
[01:37] <Byron1> Acorn what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:37] <Acorn> i installed nvidia xserver settings but it only has auto for resolution options
[01:37] <garrett__> powertool08: ps auxw | grep switch and kill the pid
[01:37] <Acorn> Byron1: newest version
[01:37] <garrett__> powertool08: i'm not sure what configuration file loads that -- old linux user, but i don't use gnome often
[01:37] <Acorn> Byron1: just installed an hour ago
[01:37] <Byron1> Acorn 8.04?
[01:37] <Invisionfree> I plugged in my printer, and it recognizes it as an HP Deskjet F4100 series, but when I try and print a test page, it says it may not be connected, and doesn't print .. Why?
[01:37] <garrett__> powertool08: well, not old.. but have been using it for years and years
[01:37] <Acorn> Byron1: yeah
[01:38] <Byron1> Acorn I had a hard time trying to get my video to work with 8.04. I went back to 7.10
[01:38] <Acorn> maybe restart my computer? or disable the driver and then re-enable?
[01:38] <axisys_> any wireless expert here?
[01:38] <Acorn> Byron1: that doesn't sound good :(
[01:38] <powertool08> garrett__: its not running until i log in, but it crashes before i could stop it
[01:38] <axisys_> iwconfig shows the eth1 radio off on my intel pro wireless card
[01:39] <axisys_> how do I turn it back on?
[01:39] <diao_> I love ubuntu
[01:39] <Byron1> Acorn Did you do a fresh install or update?
[01:39] <powertool08> garrett__: do you use ubuntu?
[01:39] <Acorn> Byron1: fresh install today
[01:39] <garrett__> powertool08: hm.  i don't know how to fix that without being able to play with the system myself
[01:39] <garrett__> powertool08: yea
[01:39] <garrett__> powertool08: but i've been using slackware for the past 9years
[01:39] <garrett__> powertool08: i just started playing with ubuntu last weekend
[01:40] <powertool08> garrett__: which do you like better?
[01:40] <piju> hello, i got problem with hardy on my laptop. the wireless card only got 11mb. can anybody explain why ?
[01:40] <Invisionfree> I plugged in my printer, and it recognizes it as an HP Deskjet F4100 series, but when I try and print a test page, it says it may not be connected, and doesn't print .. Why?
[01:40] <imjesus_1> umm i cant hear nothing on youtube any one knows y
[01:40] <Acorn> couldn't i just download the linux driver for my graphics card from the nvidia website?
[01:40] <garrett__> powertool08: they both have their strong suits.  package management is good but can totally screw you over sometimes
[01:40] <garrett__> powertool08: but sometimes it's nice to be able to apt-get
[01:40] <Ahadiel> Acorn, I'm pretty sure it's in the repos. (Try Restricted Driver manager?)
[01:41] <Byron1> Acorn I thought you said you were using restricted driver?
[01:41] <garrett__> powertool08: it's harder to fix things like ubuntu when they break, because all these different components are glued together
[01:41] <seracht> with emerald...how do you exactly "apply" a theme
[01:41] <Invisionfree> I plugged in my printer, and it recognizes it as an HP Deskjet F4100 series, but when I try and print a test page, it says it may not be connected, and doesn't print .. Why??
[01:41] <imjesus_1> how do install compiz-0.7.4
[01:41] <garrett__> powertool08: but with something like slackware, you have to make the glue yourself
[01:41] <Stroganoff> seracht: http://svn.beryl-project.org/beryl/trunk/emerald-themes-repo/
[01:41] <powertool08> garrett__: thats what i've noticed, its nice for the install but i've been in dependency hell so many times trying to uninstall
[01:41] <garrett__> powertool08: yeah
[01:41] <Acorn> Byron1: I am, but it doesn't work
[01:41] <seracht> Stroganoff I am trying to install futurelooks
[01:41] <piju> hello, i got problem with hardy on my laptop. the wireless card only got 11mb. can anybody explain why ?
[01:42] <Invisionfree> I plugged in my printer, and it recognizes it as an HP Deskjet F4100 series, but when I try and print a test page, it says it may not be connected, and doesn't print .. Why?? Anyone alive or am I gagged or dead or something?
[01:42] <Stroganoff> seracht here's your related bug report...
[01:42] <garrett__> powertool08: i don't think it's my distro of choice, to be honest.  i liked gentoo a bit better
[01:42] <coil> GRUB LOADING, PLEASE WAIT
[01:42] <Stroganoff> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emerald/+bug/139957
[01:42] <Acorn> hmm, i'll try restarting
[01:42] <coil> ERROR 15
[01:42] <FloodBot3> coil: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:42] <zero88> How do I get my memory card on my cellphone to show up as a removable disk? So I can add music to it.
[01:42] <imjesus_1> how do i install compiz 0.7.4
[01:42] <garrett__> powertool08: that was a nice middle ground
[01:42] <seracht> thanks man
[01:42] <Byron1> Acorn Can you paste your xorg.conf file
[01:42] <zero88> How do I get my memory card on my cellphone to show up as a removable disk? So I can add music to it. It shows up in "lsusb"
[01:42] <garrett__> seasons__: it can be anywhere.  you link to it in your document.
[01:42] <garrett__> erp
[01:42] <garrett__> sorry
[01:42] <imjesus_1> ﻿how do i install compiz 0.7.4?
[01:42] <coil> If you install GRUB into a partition or a drive other than the first one, you must chain-load GRUB from another boot loader. Refer to the manual for the boot loader to know how to chain-load GRUB.
[01:42] <powertool08> garrett__: ha, i tried gentoo as my first install after playing around with knoppix
[01:43] <coil> can i put grub on my winxp hd?
[01:43] <imjesus_1> any one ﻿how do i install compiz 0.7.4 ?
[01:43] <secleinteer> coil: yes
[01:43] <bbyever> !compiz | ﻿imjesus_1:
[01:43] <secleinteer> coil: it's eaiest done if it's on the first hdd
[01:43] <coil> it keeps giving error 15 though
[01:43] <hansen> Can you guys recommend a simple firewall for ubuntu without a GUI? For my desktop box firestarter is just fine, but I have a couple of servers too where i'd like a firewall that doesn't require a GUI setup app. Just something simple where I can list the services I want to have access to in a text-file -- similar to the suse firewall script
[01:43] <coil> whatever i do it still fails
[01:44] <atomiku> hansen: iptables
[01:44] <secleinteer> coil: is it the first hdd?
[01:44] <coil> my linux is on the second hd, windows is on the first
[01:44] <garrett__> powertool08: hehe.  i liked gentoo quite a bit.
[01:44] <bud32> hansen: scripts on iptables rules and chains
[01:44] <coil> can i just to a grub-install on hd0?
[01:44] <secleinteer> yes
[01:44] <secleinteer> did you do that?
[01:44] <coil> not yet
[01:44] <secleinteer> you will also want to manually check grub.conf
[01:44] <anonimo> !list
[01:44] <coil> i was afraid i was gonna fuck up my windows
[01:44] <secleinteer> coil: post the grub.conf on pastebin
[01:44] <garrett__> powertool08: but for the most part, any time you have a package system, dependencies will trip you up at some point
[01:44] <zero88> coil just change your bootup options
[01:44] <hansen> iptables is the tool of course, but there must be something pre-cooked available so I dont need to write my own rules
[01:44] <secleinteer> you can't fuck up windows
[01:44] <piju> hello, i got problem with hardy on my laptop. the wireless card only got 11mb. can anybody explain why ?
[01:44] <bbyever> !language | coil:
[01:45] <secleinteer> it will just keep you from booting it until you fix the bootloader
[01:45] <garrett__> powertool08: like, for instance, if your depency table gets corrupt (which happened on one of my redhat enterprise servers awhile ago)
[01:45] <coil> give me a while, i have to reboot into the livecd
[01:45] <seracht> cool got it to work
[01:45] <seracht> force restarted emerald
[01:45] <seracht> ok opefully this is my last question
[01:45] <garrett__> powertool08: when that happens, you basically can't install or uninstall any software through the package manager
[01:45] <marcus> my windows network connection doesn't work after installing ubuntu
[01:45] <secleinteer> coil: query me if you have a problem, i'll bbl
[01:45] <seracht> Do you guys have any recommendations of different panels
[01:45] <coil> ok thx
[01:45] <seracht> I kinda like LinuxMint's "Start menu"
[01:45] <seracht> anything similar out there>
[01:46] <marcus> my windows network connection doesn't work after installing ubuntu
[01:46] <powertool08> garrett__: so how do you keep track of installed apps when you compile to install?
[01:46] <garrett__> powertool08: or if you need to compile something yourself with some specific packages, you have to make a package for it, or you're going to screw up the dependency tree
[01:46] <garrett__> powertool08: it's not as hard as you'd think.
[01:46] <GottaBeAndrew> hey all
[01:46] <marcus> my windows network connection doesn't work after installing ubuntu
[01:46] <garrett__> powertool08: if it works, you have all the dependencies.  if it doesn't, you look at the compiler error messages and track down the right package
[01:46] <powertool08> and where do you extract the files to? should everything be extracted to the home drive with symlinks to /bin?
[01:46] <Invisionfree> I plugged in my printer, and it recognizes it as an HP Deskjet F4100 series, but when I try and print a test page, it says it may not be connected, and doesn't print .. Why?? Anyone alive or am I gagged or dead or something????????????????????
[01:47] <smmagic> hi, if I have two OSes on two separate HDs, then make a 80gb partition on one. Will GRUB allow me to choose both OSes?
[01:47] <garrett__> powertool08: as for keeping track of it--well, less it's something sort of out there.. like some weird specific lib, most things depend on the same set of packages
[01:47] <Acorn> yeah, i can't set my resolution above 640x480
[01:47] <marcus> answering to smmagic: yes grub will let you choose the OS
[01:47] <Nostahl> so.... why does ubuntu auto load up some restricted athero's drivers for my wifi and they dont work?
[01:47] <Ahadiel> Acorn, Run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[01:47] <Byron1> invision did you get hp's printer installer?
[01:48] <garrett__> powertool08: there's lots and lots of software out there, but you don't need most of it to get a system up and running--especially if you're running servers.
[01:48] <smmagic> marcus, But over two HDs?
[01:48] <marcus> yes, I think so
[01:48] <NeilDude> I seem to having a problem with the grub boot loader. I just finished installing Ubuntu 8.04 Alternate Desktop AMD64 Edition and upon booting, i get the error, "Grub Loading, please wait..." followed by "Error 17".
[01:48] <Invisionfree> I plugged in my printer, and it recognizes it as an HP Deskjet F4100 series, but when I try and print a test page, it says it may not be connected, and doesn't print .. Why?? Anyone alive or am I gagged or dead or something????????????????????
[01:48] <seracht> anyone here know LinuxMint's start panel? How do I get something like that going
[01:48] <smmagic> ok..
[01:48] <marcus> oh wait...
[01:48] <bbyever> !repeat | Invisionfree
[01:48] <WIDESPREADpanic> hohow do i creat e a ssl certificate?
[01:49] <Acorn> Ahadiel: what should happen?
[01:49] <Invisionfree> Gtfo bbyever, I've been asking for like 5-10 mins with no answer.
[01:49] <bud32> smmagic: the entry for the second drive contains "root (hd1,?)"
[01:49] <roxahris> Hey, I have a really complex problem! I want to route my internet from my laptop, but I have to use a LiveCD of Linux Mint on it and its screen is broken!
[01:49] <bbyever> !attitude | Invisionfree
[01:49] <Ahadiel> Acorn, It should give you some output about xorg.conf, then either reboot or do CTRL+ALT+BKSPACE
[01:49] <Painless> WIDESPREADpanic: for a web server?
[01:49] <bud32> for the first is root (hd0,?)
[01:49] <Invisionfree> !gtfo | bbyever
[01:49] <imjesus_1> this is my second day with ubuntu and i would like to know any softoware for it thats pretty cool
[01:49] <garrett__> powertool08: the only real problem comes up when you have to keep track of updates in packages.. like when there's a security problem in some random library you installed 3 years ago and completely forgot about
[01:49] <WIDESPREADpanic> Painless: TLS for postfix, for smtp authentication
[01:49] <bbyever> !language | Invisionfree
[01:50] <marcus> I think that you will have to choose the which HD you want to use on your computer's boot menu
[01:50] <smmagic> bud32, Hm, let me explain again. On boot, I press f12 and from there got to HD options, from there I select my 500 or 160gb drive. I want to know if grub will let me use both to boot from
[01:50] <Invisionfree> Jack_Sparrow: bbyever is abusing ubottu, and can you help with my printer? :
[01:50] <Nostahl> why do the restricted drivers for athero's not work
[01:50] <powertool08> garrett__: so there's not any auto update?
[01:50] <smmagic> Or, if I boot to the 500gb whcih I'm installing ubuntu onto. will it come up with grub?
[01:50] <Acorn> !paste
[01:50] <garrett__> powertool08: for all intents and purposes, not really
[01:50] <bud32> smmagic: GRUB should be set in the first drive's MBR, from there, the /boot/grub/menu.lst file specify other drives
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> bbyever please /msg ubottu to avoid spamming the channel
[01:51] <powertool08> garrett__: and to update do you remove the old version first and then install new, or just leave the old?
[01:51] <smmagic> bud32, So I must do it manually?
[01:51] <marcus> If it works on a partition, it will work with two HD's
[01:51] <garrett__> powertool08: google was my package manager until about 2003
[01:51] <Painless> WIDESPREADpanic: this tutorial is for a webserver, but you can create a key the same way -> http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=30115&seqNum=4
[01:51] <marcus> you can use grub
[01:51] <Acorn> Ahadiel: like that? http://paste.ubuntu.com/14232/
[01:51] <bud32> smmagic: do you have grub set in the MBR?
[01:51] <garrett__> powertool08: just install over the old ones, usually
[01:51] <imjesus_1> anything i can download to get better visual effects
[01:51] <smmagic> I need to intall ubuntu first, bud32
[01:51] <bbyever> ﻿Jack_Sparrow: i was not abusing ubottu, invisionfree was repeating his question and i used the ! repeat factoid. he then became agreesive and started insulting
[01:51] <validom> e
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Invisionfree I just woke up from nap..  gimme a few
[01:51] <Ahadiel> Acorn, The output does not matter. Just reboot or do CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE.
[01:51] <bud32> ok
[01:52] <el1te> for the love of god....does anyone know how to get optical out working on a soundstorm apu
[01:52] <el1te> jesus this is sound right
[01:52] <marcus> my windows network connection doesn't work after installing ubuntu
[01:52] <powertool08> garrett__: so you just periodically go through all installed packages, search google for new ones, update if necessary?
[01:52] <smmagic> but so, bud32  if I chooose the 500gb drive on boot it shall load GRUB?
[01:52] <garrett__> powertool08: libs are usually something like somelib.so which is a symlink to foo.0.2.3.4.32.so, and 'make install' relinks the symlink to the new version
[01:52] <Invisionfree> bbyever: Jack_Sparrow knows I'm a nice person *Cough*
[01:52] <marcus> my windows network connection doesn't work after installing ubuntu
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> bbyever Invisionfree please both settle down... I am grumpy when I wake up
[01:52] <garrett__> powertool08: yup
[01:52] <Billenium> I just booted from the live CD and it is asking me for a username and password...
[01:52] <imjesus_1> any programs reccomned for ubuntu
[01:52] <Billenium> what should i put in?
[01:52] <NeilDude> I seem to having a problem with the grub boot loader. I just finished installing Ubuntu 8.04 Alternate Desktop AMD64 Edition and upon booting, i get the error, "Grub Loading, please wait..." followed by "Error 17".
[01:52] <Invisionfree> Jack_Sparrow: Just when you wake up? :P
[01:52] <marcus> my windows network connection doesn't work after installing ubuntu
[01:53] <garrett__> powertool08: outfacing services like ssh/apache you'll know about quick fast.. but as for the rest, usually just install a new version whenever
[01:53] <bud32> smmagic: the most important is that GRUB is in the MBR, Ubuntu can be installed on whichever drive you want
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[01:53] <Acorn> now what?
[01:53] <marcus> my windows network connection doesn't work after installing ubuntu
[01:53] <Painless> NeilDude: You might want to check out this forum post -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[01:53] <el1te> so no one here uses optical out...? 1300 feaking ppl here and no one uses optical out?
[01:53] <axisys_> marcus: please check the topic
[01:53] <garrett__> powertool08: and i'm not saying package managers are bad, i'm just saying that while they provide a lot of convenience, when they break, it's hell
[01:53] <marcus> my windows network connection doesn't work after installing ubuntu. please help
[01:53] <Ahadiel> !repeat marcus
[01:53] <bud32> marcus: Ubuntu installation is really not supposed to touch ntfs partition (MS), even if the installer would like, it just couldn't
[01:53] <axisys_> marcus: one suggestion in there is be patient
[01:54] <bbyever> !repeat | marcus
[01:54] <Byron1> Acorn Are you able to change resolution
[01:54] <el1te> a WEEK WITH NO SOUND
[01:54] <el1te> come on
[01:54] <bud32> marcus: this is to be fixed from within windows
[01:54] <Acorn> Ahadiel: what after that?
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> marcus I seem to remeber something about that.. power all the way down go back into win and see if it works
[01:54] <el1te> this is insane i feel sorry if dell is putting this distro on any computet
[01:54] <Ahadiel> Acorn, Yes, as byron said try changing your resolution.
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> el1te /join #alsa
[01:54] <Acorn> Byron1: only between 320 and 640
[01:54] <axisys_> el1te, marcus have you guys posted your issue in mailing list ?
[01:54] <Ahadiel> Acorn, What nVidia card do you have?
[01:55] <Billenium> Can i mount of hard drive and salvage files from a hard drive through the live CD?
[01:55] <el1te> wtf are you talking about
[01:55] <Billenium> mount a hard drive*
[01:55] <el1te> 99,99999% ppl here use irc for hgelp
[01:55] <el1te> why cant we
[01:55] <Stroganoff> Invisionfree have you tried hplip
[01:55] <smmagic> bud32, Hope I don't destroy my OS >>_>
[01:55] <NeilDude> I'm getting Error 17 in the Grub Boot Loader. How do I fix this?
[01:55] <Invisionfree> Stroganoff: Huh?
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> el1te Fixing sound.. download this: http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh  #and run the script as Normal User... with this command: bash ./alsa-info.sh  ... then go to http://en.pastebin.ca/906336 and answer those questions ..  then  /join #Alsa and provide them with your question and a link to the uploaded file.
[01:55] <Byron1> Acorn What are yo using t change resolution?
[01:55] <Painless> NeilDude: You might want to check out this forum post -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[01:55] <axisys_> el1te: with this kind a attitude ?
[01:55] <fluidtom> Hey!  After I hibernate(8.04, compiz, emerald) - i can't re-size my windows!  Any idea?
[01:55] <bud32> smmagic: just choose carefully where you install Ubuntu
[01:55] <Acorn> Ahadiel: geforce4 Ti 4200
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> el1te Please dont use rude shorthand in this channel.
[01:55] <bud32> smmagic: windows is usually always on hda1
[01:56] <smmagic> I have already shrank my vista partition so there is 80gb left bud32
[01:56] <NeilDude> Painless, thank you
[01:56] <el1te> i been asking nicely for past 4 days with good attitude
[01:56] <Painless> NeilDude: yw
[01:56] <Acorn> Byron1: nvidia xserver settings
[01:56] <bud32> smmagic: ok
[01:56] <el1te> um i also been in #also for last week
[01:56] <Stroganoff> Invisionfree: sudo apt-get install hplip
[01:56] <el1te> #also wont help me cause ubuntu changes shit in iut
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> el1te do yo have a link to the output from that script
[01:56] <Ahadiel> Acorn, Try using the one in System => Preferences => Screen Resolution
[01:56] <Acorn> Ahadiel: same
[01:56] <Invisionfree> Stroganoff: Already the newest version :?
[01:56] <Byron1> Acorn have you looked in /usr/share/application/Screen and Graphicss?
[01:56] <powertool08> garrett__: have you ever used fedora? any opinions?
[01:57] <Maslow> Thats not the same Ahadiel as the one from #psp-hacks is it?
[01:57] <Stroganoff> Invisionfree, try sudo hp-setup
[01:57] <Acorn> Byron1: no, what should i look for?
[01:57] <Ahadiel> Maslow, Are you the same Taco from #psp-hacks?
[01:57] <garrett__> powertool08: i did for about a year.  it's alrigt.  same tradeoffs
[01:57] <Maslow> Yessir :D
[01:57] <sacamano> ive got a laptop, ive been running ubuntu for about 2 1/2 years now, and im wondering if anyone else has had this experience. on hardy, when on batteries, my entire system just runs so much worse than it used to
[01:57] <Ahadiel> sacamano, Do you have cpu scaling?
[01:57] <Ahadiel> sacamano, ie. cpufreq-utils
[01:57] <Stroganoff> Invisionfree then there's also the old trick of disabling usb 2.0 support in the bios..
[01:58] <Byron1> Acorn go to /usr/share/applications and click on Screens and graphics
[01:58] <Maslow> Actually im trying to figure out how to add two more desktops to this so that the whole cube deal works right, right now its only got two so its like flipping over a flat piece rather than a cube.
[01:58] <marcules> Good Night :)
[01:58] <Ahadiel> Maslow, Do you have compizconfig-settings-manager?
[01:58] <garrett__> powertool08: they were the first distro to do the automatic updates stuff, which was nice at the time.  but i wouldn't say it's anything special.  the only reason i used it is because it was the only distro with commercial support at the time i was migrating a homebrew linux network to something that the person who'd be replacing me would be able to manage
[01:58] <Maslow> Mhmm, going through it right now.
[01:58] <Byron1> Maslow under compiz setting general is horizontal set to 4?
[01:58] <sacamano> Ahadiel, i don't think so. ive upgraded from gutsy
[01:59] <Ahadiel> Maslow, There's an option under "General Options"
[01:59] <wol2> does anybody here own a sansa?
[01:59] <Ahadiel> sacamano, then sudo apt-get install cpufreq-utils
[01:59] <el1te> 1 thnx
[01:59] <garrett__> powertool08: but we had a very good reason for a homebrew network (of like 40 machines and 5 servers)
[01:59] <Maslow> Thanks, I appreciate it.
[01:59] <Ahadiel> Maslow, General Options => Desktop Size
[01:59] <sacamano> Ahadiel, here's a random one, my audio just cut out twice. same problem?
[01:59] <Invisionfree> Stroganoff
[01:59] <Invisionfree> error: PyQt not installed. GUI not available. Exiting.
[01:59] <Invisionfree> warning: PyQt init failed. Reverting to interactive mode.
[01:59] <Byron1> wol2 I have one that I am working with for my nephew
[01:59] <Ahadiel> sacamano, I don't think so.
[01:59] <piju> hello, i got problem with hardy on my laptop. the wireless card only got 11mb. can anybody explain why ?
[01:59] <garrett__> powertool08: this was back when machines couldn't really afford to have a general kernel, and we had to write scripts to poll our servers for new kernel source and rebuild each of their kernels with specific configurations
[01:59] <wol2> nice byron.
[01:59] <wol2> byron1, are you a developer?
[02:00] <Maslow> Thats cool, I can do like 15 and it just changes shapes.
[02:00] <garrett__> powertool08: i liked gentoo more than fedora, though.
[02:00] <chronos_> If I were running Ubuntu on a non internet connected Power PC, would it be possible for me to jumpdrive the packages over to the system?
[02:00] <Ahadiel> Invisionfree, My guess is that you need pyqt. (Probably sudo apt-get install pyqt)
[02:00] <garrett__> !usb | chronos_
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd | chronos_
[02:01] <Stroganoff> Invisionfree: sudo apt-get install python-qt3
[02:01] <hacker_at_12> my windows network connection doesn't work after installing ubuntu. please help
[02:01] <garrett__> chronos_: er, sorry, misread.  yeah, just dpkg --install package.deb
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> hacker_at_12 did you power down and it didnt change
[02:01] <Byron1> hacker It doesn't work in Ubuntu?
[02:01] <hacker_at_12> yes
[02:01] <Stroganoff> Invisionfree, you need hplip-gui
[02:01] <hacker_at_12> it works in ubuntu
[02:02] <android6011> hey when i try to install hardy, i get errors that grub couldnt be installed, i tried hd0 (default) and tried changing it to sda but no go
[02:02] <chronos_> Jack_Sparrow, I don't have access to a ubuntu internet connected PC, just my windows work pc
[02:02] <garrett__> powertool08: also, i'm only 25, so saying "back in the day" feels completely absurd, but i guess hardware just moves fast.
[02:02] <hacker_at_12> but not in windows after installing ubuntu
[02:02] <garrett__> powertool08: and i should preface that with the fact that most of the computesr were build with academic grants for different projects so some people were still running P133s and the like.
[02:03] <Stroganoff> !alternate | android6011 use this and install LILO
[02:03] <imjesus_1> how do i remove a program
[02:03] <sacamano> Ahadiel, is  cpufreq-utils in the standard repos or did i misspell it?
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> chronos_ boot a livecd and save debs to a usb stick
[02:03] <Byron1> Hacker are you familiar with windows network setup?
[02:03] <Ahadiel> sacamano, try apt-cache search cpufreq (I don't actually use Ubuntu so it might be a different package name)
[02:03] <powertool08> garrett__: wow, i figured you to be much older
[02:03] <hacker_at_12> yes
[02:03] <WIDESPREADpanic> Painless: isnt there a easier way to creat a key for tls?
[02:03] <woli> byron1, are you a developer?
[02:03] <chronos_> Jack, would that work for the mix between ppc and x86?
[02:03] <android6011> Stroanoff ok thanks ill try that
[02:04] <Byron1> woli yes
[02:04] <garrett__> powertool08: nah.  i first installed linux in 1997 in my freshman year of highschool.  just had an early start.
[02:04] <garrett__> powertool08: i even date people and have a social life and the like :O
[02:04] <Byron1> hacker does the card show up?
[02:04] <sacamano> Ahadiel, got it. ty
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> chronos_ you would use whatever works on ppc since we dont support it in here
[02:04] <woli> byron1, are you interested in developing a synching-with-sansa software?
[02:04] <hacker_at_12> yes
[02:04] <android6011> does the alternate cd give the option of having no window manager?
[02:04] <Byron1> woli I really don't have the time sorry
[02:05] <Acorn> help, i changed my graphics card model, and logged out, and then it couldn't detect my graphics card, and now i can't find the settings anymore
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> android6011 as in server install
[02:05] <woli> awww...
[02:05] <garrett__> powertool08: i'm also three beers in before going out tonight, so excuse my typing :O
[02:05] <Painless> WIDESPREADpanic: hmm... there's another tutorial here? --> http://www.aet.tu-cottbus.de/personen/jaenicke/pfixtls/doc/myownca.html
[02:05] <android6011> Jack_Sparrow I suppose, id just like a scaled down system to start and add thigns as needed
[02:05] <woli> is that i hate switching into windows everytime i want to synch songs to sansa
[02:05] <powertool08> garrett__: i'm a couple years younger than you, i first installed back in fall of 06
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !minimal
[02:05] <woli> and sometimes i drag em and they ain't in the sansa when i unplug it
[02:05] <woli> only synch works
[02:05] <el1te> msg el11te
[02:06] <Byron1> woli what do you mean?
[02:06] <android6011> thanks! i wasnt aware there was a minimal cd for ubuntu
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:06] <Acorn> Ahadiel: where were the settings again? i messed it up and can't find it anymore
[02:06] <Invisionfree> Stroganoff: sudo hp-setup isn't doing anything?
[02:06] <ubuntuisloved> i seem to have broke perl http://hashbin.com/3yd
[02:06] <Byron1> Acorn under /etc/X11
[02:06] <woli> that only the 'plays for sure' mode really works, because otherwise you might add songs without being able to hear them when the deviced is 'refreshed'
[02:06] <Stroganoff> Invisionfree: sudo apt-get install hplip-gui
[02:06] <Stroganoff> then try again
[02:06] <hacker_at_12> hello?
[02:06] <Ahadiel> Acorn, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:06] <powertool08> garrett__: i feel like the learning curve is alot shallower than it used to be, which i guess is good for the growth of linux in general... but i feel that it loses things along the way
[02:07] <Invisionfree> Stroganoff: I did, see PM.
[02:07] <hacker_at_12> #helpme
[02:07] <woli> i wonder if the wmp synch just copies songs to the sansa drive, or if it does something different....
[02:07] <garrett__> powertool08: word.  steep learning curve when stuff breaks, but good knowledge to have, as most operating systems behave in the same way once you strip away all the upper-level doodads and whizbags
[02:07] <Billenium> After i booted the Live CD it came to a log-in screen. What is the username and password for the login screen?
[02:07] <Acorn> Ahadiel: no, what you said earlier, about screen and settings or something, it was in user
[02:07] <garrett__> powertool08: agreed.  but you can peel away that abstraction any time you like
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !helpme | hacker_at_12
[02:07] <Ahadiel> Acorn, I didn't say that, Byron1 did.
[02:07] <ubuntuisloved> Billenium, are you using xbuntu   ?
[02:07] <Acorn> oh, byron then :)
[02:08] <Billenium> no
[02:08] <Billenium> Ubuntu LiveCD
[02:08] <powertool08> garrett__: and of course i've noticed the changes even in help chats such as this, with a shallow learning curve comes less patient, more demanding users
[02:08] <garrett__> powertool08: that's absolute truth right there.
[02:08] <Byron1> Acorn there is a program located in /usr/share/applications called screen and graphics
[02:08] <bud32> anyone knows why I can't get the boot splash with a custom kernel??
[02:09] <garrett__> powertool08: try reading a programming forum.  "I NEED CODEZ FOR JAVA PROGRAM TO DO MYSPACEZ!"
[02:09] <Billenium> ugh this is no help...
[02:09] <mongolai> quit
[02:09] <mongolai> ^quit
[02:09] <Acorn> thankyou Byron1
[02:09] <mongolai> quit
[02:09] <mongolai> sorry
[02:09] <Ahadiel> mongolai, /quit
[02:10] <Byron1> hacker did you say that your wireless was visible in windows network settings
[02:10] <hacker_at_12> whoever is interested in helping me with my windows-ubuntu network problem, just go to #qafor
[02:10] <woli> whats the effect name for the sliding frames in compiz-fusion
[02:10] <woli> ??
[02:10] <powertool08> garrett__: haha, i thought they were always after homework help
[02:10] <Acorn> how do you disable a hardware driver?
[02:10] <Br0k3> hello everyone
[02:10] <scunizi> !hello
[02:10] <Ahadiel> Acorn, I'd say replace "nvidia" with "mesa" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:10] <garrett__> powertool08: but for the most part, those who're willing to learn will learn, and those who won't, won't.  hopefully the software gets easier to use but fosters some understanding of what's going on under the hood
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !blacklist
[02:10] <garrett__> powertool08: haha, true.
[02:10] <yojesus_1> how do i remove programs
[02:10] <garrett__> powertool08: i've used #c and #math for homework help, before :P
[02:11] <axisys_> my wireless started working..
[02:11] <axisys_> i had to press the wireless button on my laptop
[02:11] <axisys_> would be nice if the led turns with
[02:11] <axisys_> so I would know that wifi is on
[02:11] <FloodBot3> axisys_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:11] <Acorn> Ahadiel: i need to work out how to undo everything i've done
[02:11] <android6011> is there a place i can see what window managers are available in ubuntu?
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> yojesus_1 depends on how they were installed
[02:11] <bud32> yojesus_1: chmod 644 /program
[02:11] <bbyever> ﻿yojesus_1: Applications > Add/Remove
[02:11] <scunizi> yojesus_1,  use synaptic.. what do you want to get rid of?
[02:11] <dowlings> Hey guys I'm having some dependecy problems when I try to compile simdock, can anyone help?
[02:11] <garrett__> powertool08: though #math wound up being a 3hour conversation about finite automata
[02:11] <Ahadiel> Acorn, Well, as far as I know nvidia-xsettings *should* give you a working config.
[02:11] <yojesus_1> well i want to get rid of firefox ver3 and get ver2
[02:11] <bud32> oh
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> android6011 I may have a webiste with the most popular ones listed
[02:12] <scunizi> yojesus_1, did you do an upgrade and are now having problems?
[02:12] <garrett__> powertool08: anyhow, i think the axiom is that some people expect and demand immediate solutions, and some people are willing to suss out why it's broken and then figure out how to fix it
[02:12] <yojesus_1> im having problems
[02:12] <android6011> Jack_Sparrow if you do that would be great
[02:12] <Acorn> is it possible to reset the installation?
[02:12] <garrett__> powertool08: and thankfully that's not something limited only to computers.
[02:12] <yojesus_1> im like very new to ubuntu
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> android6011 http://xwinman.org/
[02:12] <scunizi> yojesus_1, did you upgrade from Gutsy?
[02:12] <Acorn> and go back to how it was before?
[02:12] <android6011> thanks again!
[02:12] <ubuntuisloved> Is there a place to download the Debian Ubuntu 8 Package PERL for install since i broke it ?
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> android6011 let me know if that is what you were looking for
[02:12] <yojesus_1> nahh i just got ubunt yestarday
[02:12] <yojesus_1> second day using it
[02:12] <scunizi> yojesus_1, what kind of issues are you having?
[02:13] <android6011> Jack_Sparrow ya thats perfect thanks
[02:13] <yojesus_1> i cant hear nothing on firefox
[02:13] <garrett__> powertool08: and from the amount of help i've recieved from people over the years, i do my best to help out the later whenever possible
[02:13] <hacker_at_12> a little help here please
[02:13] <scunizi> yojesus_1, when playing a flash video or something?
[02:13] <Qrawl> hello.  When I use sftp in Nautilus, it asks me for my password every time I open any file. how can I fix this
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> android6011 great
[02:13] <yojesus_1> like youtube video music anything
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !helpme | hacker_at_12
[02:13] <yojesus_1> it worked fine yestarday
[02:13] <Byron1> Acorn If you get frustrated in trying to get it to work in 8.04 You might want to install 7.10
[02:14] <garrett__> hacker_at_12: i can't think of a reason why ubuntu would touch your ntfs partition during install, so i can't provide anything useful aside from telling you to turn it off and on and reinstall the drivers.
[02:14] <GottaBeAndrew> to get my webcam working, after every log off/ shutdown / restart etc. i have to go onto the terminal and type "sudo modprobe vloopback pipes=1", then my admin password, then "flashcam -qD". is there a way of making it do this automatically when ubuntu starts up instead of me having to do it?
[02:14] <scunizi> yojesus_1, that might not be FF but a problem  with pulse audio.. my FF plays just fine.. do sounds work in other places?
[02:14] <NeilDude> Painless, this is way over my head. that link you sent me does not apply to me and the documentation i'm reading on how to fix the error 17 is cryptic and confusing
[02:14] <tux0> hey fellas
[02:14] <yojesus_1> yrah
[02:14] <tux0> anyone care to tell me where to get some sysmonitor screenlet themes?
[02:14] <yojesus_1> yeah it doesnt work in fire fox only
[02:15] <ledmushroom> Ok my issue is one that could make my wife make me (cause i would not if i had a choice) put xp bake on her system if she doesnt have it the simplest way possible and right not I am suck. She has a wireless connection and I am broadcasting and have wpa personal enabled and after she boots it takes a little bit to I guess see the network and then asks her for the password. I am looking to make this network default so she doesnt have to do all that it just
[02:15] <ledmushroom>  connects. Thats it
[02:15] <Byron1> hacker I went to #qafor what happen?
[02:15] <NeilDude> does anyone know how i can fix grub boot loader error 17?
[02:15] <tux0> anyone care to tell me where to get some sysmonitor screenlet themes?
[02:15] <scunizi> yojesus_1, have you tried to change any of the audio options by double clicking the volumn control icon?
[02:15] <tux0> anyone care to tell me where to get some sysmonitor screenlet themes?
[02:15] <hacker_at_12> the strange thing is that when i just go straight from the modem and not through a router, it works perfectly.
[02:15] <scunizi> tux0, gkrelm  in synaptic
[02:15] <GottaBeAndrew> ﻿to get my webcam working, after every log off/ shutdown / restart etc. i have to go onto the terminal and type "sudo modprobe vloopback pipes=1", then my admin password, then "flashcam -qD". is there a way of making it do this automatically when ubuntu starts up instead of me having to do it?
[02:15] <garrett__> ledmushroom: so you want the network config to automatically provide the WPA/WEP key?
[02:15] <yojesus_1> idk im listing to music on rythmbox but cant listent to anything on firefox
[02:16] <ledmushroom> yes
[02:16] <yojesus_1> i checked on the volume control
[02:16] <yojesus_1> evrything seems fine
[02:16] <GottaBeAndrew> how
[02:16] <hacker_at_12> sorry, bad link forget about it
[02:16] <danbhfive> NeilDude: did you try the fixgrub doc?
[02:16] <ledmushroom>  and the name of the network too if i turn off bradcasting
[02:16] <GottaBeAndrew> ﻿to get my webcam working, after every log off/ shutdown / restart etc. i have to go onto the terminal and type "sudo modprobe vloopback pipes=1", then my admin password, then "flashcam -qD". how do i make it do this automatically when ubuntu starts up instead of me having to do it?
[02:16] <NeilDude> danbhfivei, i don't think so.
[02:16] <scunizi> can anyone help yojesus_1 activate audio in FF.. fresh install.. new user.. I'm stumped on this one.
[02:16] <bbyever> ﻿GottaBeAndrew: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-2.html
[02:17] <GottaBeAndrew> thankyou
[02:17] <axisys_> my wireless on my hp nc 6200 with intel pro 2200BG is now working..
[02:17] <danbhfive> !fixgrub > NeilDude and tab completion makes spelling names easier
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !startup | GottaBeAndrew
[02:17] <bbyever> ﻿GottaBeAndrew: make a script with those commands and add it to the things ran at startup
[02:17] <axisys_> i had to press the wifi button which had no use in earlier versions of ubuntu
[02:17] <scunizi> audio works for yojesus_1 everywhere except in FF
[02:17] <axisys_> is there a way to turn the led on of the wifi button
[02:17] <amenado> GottaBeAndrew-> you can cheat and insert your script in the /etc/network/if-pre-up.d
[02:18] <scunizi> yojesus_1, are you running 64 bit or 32?
[02:18] <GottaBeAndrew> ok, thanks bbyever and amenado
[02:18] <yojesus_1> how do i check
[02:18] <GottaBeAndrew> will i have to enter my password as a part of the script?
[02:18] <scunizi> yojesus_1, when you downloaded the install iso did you choose 64 or x86
[02:18] <NeilDude> danbhfive, that doesn't really help
[02:18] <el1te> Jack_Sparrow i tried the alsa script and gives an erroor
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> el11te See gnubien in Alsa
[02:18] <amenado> GottaBeAndrew-> scripts in the if-up.d are usually root owned
[02:18] <el1te> ok
[02:19] <GottaBeAndrew> so i won't need a password then?
[02:19] <GottaBeAndrew> ok
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> el1te Did it wor for you before?
[02:19] <yojesus_1> idk i order ubunt online and got it yestarday on mail i think 64
[02:19] <GottaBeAndrew> thanks, bye!!!
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> work
[02:19] <Painless> GottaBeAndrew: you could add your commands to the end of /etc/rc.local also
[02:19] <GottaBeAndrew> ok
[02:19] <GottaBeAndrew> i'll note that down
[02:19] <FloodBot3> GottaBeAndrew: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:19] <garrett__> ledmushroom: hm.  i use my neighbors wireless network, and it just uses MAC address protection, but my guess is that google will yeild an answer
[02:19] <danbhfive> NeilDude: well, it either works, or it doesnt
[02:19] <Painless> that would be a more relevant place for them
[02:19] <powertool08> garrett__: do you know where the gnome startup scripts are stored?
[02:19] <NeilDude> danbhfive, I don't have access to an OS.
[02:19] <el1te> Jack_Sparrow in windows it did
[02:19] <fireun> anyone feel like telling me why the new 8.10 mounts my disk as /dev/sda not hda?
[02:19] <danbhfive> NeilDude: you would have to boot with the livecd
[02:19] <fireun> stuck in 16bit access and no dma
[02:19] <bigred2k579> since ubunut wontt work on my laptop what is the distro most like ubuntu?
[02:19] <NeilDude> danbhfive, I need to repair this somehow from the terminal that comes on the alternate desktop amd64 installation cd.
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> el1te If you have been working on this for days in here and alsa you should have already run that script.. and it wont work from windows
[02:20] <Qrawl> Question:  When I use sftp in Nautilus, it asks me for my password every time I open any file. how can I fix this
[02:20] <amenado> Painless-> i agree with you, thats why i said to cheat...have it in if-pre-up.d
[02:20] <coil> penis
[02:20] <garrett__> ledmushroom: this looks like it might be relevant to you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[02:20] <el1te> check your logs if you are calling me a liar
[02:20] <MariusAZ> Can anyone tell me what the definitive best CD ripper is for Linux?
[02:20] <NeilDude> danbhfive, I don't have the livecd.
[02:20] <danbhfive> NeilDude: ok, so did you try the instructions?  Im getting confused...
[02:20] <scunizi> yojesus_1, go to Applications/accessories/terminal and type uname -a  that should tell you
[02:20] <fireun> MariusAZ: cdparanoia
[02:20] <cypha> do you guys usually install all the software updates?
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> cypha yes
[02:20] <MariusAZ> fireun: is there a GUI front end?
[02:20] <cypha> the ones that automatically show up at your system tray
[02:20] <cypha> k
[02:20] <iSplicer> Hey guys!
[02:21] <fireun> MariusAZ: likely
[02:21] <MariusAZ> fireun: I'm looking for something that'll also do tagging, multiple burners, etc
[02:21] <iSplicer> I am thinking of switching to ubuntu for my HTPC
[02:21] <garrett__> powertool08: hold on, i'll take a look
[02:21] <iSplicer> will SPDIF optical OUT work with ubuntu?
[02:21] <Painless> cypha: definately, unless it's a debian made patch for openssl (joke)
[02:21] <bigred2k579> since ubuntu wont work on my laptop what is the distro most like ubuntu?
[02:21] <fireun> MariusAZ: try #vorbis
[02:21] <MariusAZ> Thanks
[02:21] <cypha> lol, k
[02:21] <cypha> thanks
[02:21] <NeilDude> danbhfive, I simply cannot try those instructions. step 2 says open a terminal by going to blah blah menu. I cannot boot into Linux from the live cd because I do not have the live cd.  I only have the shell from the rescue mode on my alternate CD.
[02:22] <bigred2k579> I was thinking centos but I wanted to get someone elses opinion
[02:22] <danbhfive> NeilDude: terminal == shell
[02:22] <iSplicer> terminal is the shell
[02:22] <fireun> My question is why does my hd show up as /dev/sda when its an IDE drive and normally (previous ubuntu installs) it shows up at /dev/hda, which is normal, and allows me to use hdparm
[02:22] <iSplicer> fancy name
[02:22] <Painless> bigred2k579: what happens when you try and use ubuntu on your laptop?
[02:22] <NeilDude> danbhfive, okay
[02:22] <cypha> follow up question, i have "gnome-do -quiet" added to my sessions to autostart
[02:22] <cypha> but gnome-do shows up when i start ubuntu
[02:22] <cypha> how can i not have it show up at all?
[02:23] <iSplicer> someone please help, I am trying to switch to ubuntu for my HTPC - will SPDIF optical OUT work with ubuntu?
[02:23] <cypha> at the start
[02:23] <danbhfive> !uuid > fireun here is a tidbit of info, but I dont really know
[02:23] <bigred2k579> ehhh long story....I can install from a cd but only by disabling a bunch of stuff and then after the install is done it wont boot from the hdd
[02:23] <NeilDude> danbhfive, after following step 3, i get "/bin/sh: sudo: not found"
[02:23] <Stroganoff> NeilDude: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-ec3e41291c7a5a7b61d7827299415204067765de
[02:23] <bigred2k579> just says starting up with a blinkiung cursor
[02:23] <NeilDude> danbhfive, these instructions assume I am booted into an OPERATING SYSTEM.  I am at a BLUE SCREEN that is definitely NOT an operating system. am i getting through to you?
[02:23] <Painless> bigred2k579: ouch
[02:24] <yojesus_1> i cant hear sound on firefox any one thinks they know y
[02:24] <fireun> danbhfive: thanks, I think its one of the causes for my laptop locking up if left unattended for long enough, I come back, type my pwd in and it just freezes, cant get a virtual term or ctrl-alt anything
[02:24] <cypha> anyone use gnome-do and have it autostart?
[02:24] <bigred2k579> yo maybe you muted firefox
[02:24] <moDumass> hey all, any issues with Emerald theme veiwer?
[02:24] <moDumass> i cant change themes
[02:24] <yojesus_1> how
[02:24] <yojesus_1> and where
[02:24] <moDumass> or if i do change them they dont actually change until i reboot
[02:24] <amenado> fireun-> if you look into udev rules, thats how the newer naming convention is done..
[02:24] <bigred2k579> I think its ctrl+m or something
[02:24] <darkcrab> you have to add it to your startup modumass
[02:24] <bigred2k579> Icould be wrong
[02:24] <yojesus_1> how do i unmute it
[02:24] <moDumass> darkcrab, it strarts
[02:24] <fireun> amenado: yeah, I've seen the uuids in fstab
[02:25] <darkcrab> oh
[02:25] <darkcrab> like it runs when you reboot
[02:25] <moDumass> darkcrab, it just doesnt change to the theme i select when i select that theme
[02:25] <fireun> amenado: but I couldnt even boot the new ubuntu install without changing root=/dev/sdaX instead of hda
[02:25] <amenado> fireun-> that too, i dislike it but..its a trend in most distros
[02:25] <iSplicer> someone please help, I am trying to switch to ubuntu for my HTPC - will SPDIF optical OUT work with ubuntu, if so, how might I get it to work?
[02:25] <moDumass> darkcrab, it will only change tot the selected theme on reboot
[02:25] <Painless> cypha: there's an alternative method here --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/do/+bug/195097
[02:25] <moDumass> and this aint windows, screw rebooting all the time
[02:25] <Stroganoff> NeilDude do you know the device id of your root partition?
[02:25] <iSplicer> someone please help, I am trying to switch to ubuntu for my HTPC - will SPDIF optical OUT work with ubuntu, if so, how might I get it to work?
[02:26] <darkcrab> well yea
[02:26] <ethana2> I need to take a screenshot of a contextual menu
[02:26] <ethana2> how do I do this?
[02:26] <cypha> k, cool thanks painless
[02:26] <ethana2> I want the cursor, menu, all that
[02:26] <Bruno_> oii
[02:26] <scunizi> ethana2, use the print screen button then edit in gimp
[02:26] <fireun> iSplicer: search for SPDIF optical out support for ubuntu on google
[02:26] <garrett__> powertool08: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/GNOME.html
[02:26] <ethana2> scunizi: but it won't let me
[02:26] <Billenium> Does anyone know the username and password for Ubuntu Live CD?
[02:26] <ethana2> scunizi: it won't let me do that unless all menus are closed
[02:27] <garrett__> powertool08: err.. that might be out of date
[02:27] <amenado> Billenium-> blank blank
[02:27] <ethana2> scunizi: does it do it like windows when I have menus open?
[02:27] <yojesus_1> UMM ANYONE KNOWS Y I CANT HEAR SOUND IN FIREFOX
[02:27] <powertool08> garrett__: thanks, i think i've almost got this sorted out now, i can login if i don't run the startup scripts
[02:27] <danbhfive> NeilDude: I understand that you are upset, but please understand that I don't know what your troubles are, until you tell me.  Even then, I may not know how to help.  I'm just some guy.    That said, does the 'grub' command work?
[02:27] <Billenium> as in enter enter or type in blank?
[02:27] <roxandLAPTOP> ...
[02:27] <Acorn> I solved it!!
[02:27] <garrett__> powertool08: so you just need to figure out what's breaking gnome
[02:27] <cypha> ethana2, yeah i can't even change my volume when a menu is open
[02:27] <fireun> Acorn: yippie!
[02:27] <garrett__> powertool08: rigt on to you :)
[02:27] <scunizi> ethana2,  just tried it and it doesn't work for me either..
[02:27] <amenado> Billenium-> noooh..i was just teasing you, there are no password
[02:27] <danbhfive> NeilDude: since you are in rescue mode, you are already root, and you dont need sudo
[02:27] <garrett__> powertool08: i wish i could be more help, but i've spent the past 8years avoiding gnome because it's bloated :P
[02:27] <ethana2> scunizi: I have a bug I need to confirm
[02:28] <ethana2> growl
[02:28] <Billenium> amenado-> What? It is asking me for a username and password...
[02:28] <cypha> ethana2, if you find a way to make the menu not take priority over keyboard presses or whatever, let me know please
[02:28] <garrett__> powertool08: and it's hell if you don't have a gui
[02:28] <Templarian> so cool thing i can connect to svn bad thing it won't accept passwords?
[02:28] <Acorn> the problem wasn't the graphics card, that was all fine, the problem was that I didn't have my monitor selected
[02:28] <amenado> Billenium-> on a liveCD ?
[02:28] <ethana2> cypha: I need the pic /of/ the menu here
[02:28] <ethana2> nothing else
[02:28] <bigred2k579> anyone? what is another distro that is similar to ubuntu's ease of install and use
[02:28] <ethana2> lol
[02:28] <Billenium> yes
[02:28] <Invisionfree> Jack_Sparrow: Printer help please?
[02:28] <ethana2> this is horrible
[02:28] <Billenium> on a LiveCD
[02:28] <FloodBot3> ethana2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:28] <yojesus_1> anyone thinks they know y i cant hear sound on firefox but i am able to listent to music on rythim box ??
[02:28] <scunizi> ethana2, not neccessarily a but but you could report it as one in launchpad and it might get some attention
[02:28] <garrett__> powertool08: almost every WM i've ever used has just used the ~/.xsession file to run things at statrup
[02:28] <fireun> bigred2k579: debian? (:
[02:28] <cypha> what's /of/ mean?
[02:28] <ethana2> scunizi: ok
[02:28] <bbyever> ﻿ Billenium: leave those empty
[02:28] <garrett__> powertool08: so if something was broken, there were only a few places to look.  gnome's a byzantian mess
[02:28] <powertool08> garrett__: ha, ya i don't normally use it myself, and you've been tons of help, not to mention your insight on linux in general
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Invisionfree what printer...
[02:29] <Billenium> I did, i hit enter then enter and it said password wrong
[02:29] <cypha> ethana2, btw, you can make a time delay before the print screen
[02:29] <bbyever> ﻿ Billenium: try ubuntu or lvecd
[02:29] <bbyever> livecd*
[02:29] <cypha> but i think you have to download a print screen plugin
[02:29] <Acorn> how come there's no easy way to get to the screen and display settings?
[02:29] <powertool08> garrett__: what do you use for a wm?
[02:29] <garrett__> powertool08: it's nice to talk to people who're interested aside from just wanting to get redtube and skype working
[02:29] <Billenium> i am using Ubuntu LiveCD x.x
[02:29] <bigred2k579> fireun: you being serious?
[02:29] <cypha> i definitely read that somewhere though
[02:29] <Painless> Billenium: have you tried 'root' and just hitting enter for the password?
[02:29] <Invisionfree> Jack_Sparrow: HP Deskjet F4180
[02:29] <Billenium> not yet
[02:29] <Billenium> be right back
[02:29] <garrett__> powertool08: fluxbox, usually.  i've been a little too lazy to install it just yet, as when i haven't been working i've been playing neverwinternights
[02:29] <fireun> bigred2k579: you asked for another distro - what do you want from it?
[02:29] <thingfish> Acorn: what are you needing to do?
[02:30] <ethana2> cypha: thanks!  it did what I need
[02:30] <Acorn> !sudo | Billenium
[02:30] <garrett__> powertool08: i just decided to give ubuntu a shot last weekend when my windows install did the windows thing and imploded on its self like a child of divorce at an open abr
[02:30] <garrett__> erp, bar
[02:30] <powertool08> garrett__: whats the difference in fluxbox and blackbox?
[02:30] <cypha> ethana2, what did what you need?
[02:30] <garrett__> powertool08: blackbox isn't maintained anymore
[02:30] <ethana2> an image of a menu
[02:30] <garrett__> powertool08: fluxbox is based on blackbox
[02:30] <ethana2> to file a bug on firefox
[02:30] <dabbill> is there a channel for conky?
[02:30] <Billenium> ugh... do you guys not understand?
[02:30] <Ahadiel> Billenium, Try sudo su when on the livecd
[02:30] <Billenium> I am at a login-screen
[02:31] <Billenium> not a terminal...
[02:31] <bigred2k579> fireun....just a secure file system...ease of install and use....
[02:31] <shane2peru> !conky
[02:31] <Invisionfree> Jack_Sparrow: HP Deskjet F4180, but apparently it only shows up with F4100..
[02:31] <Ahadiel> Billenium, Since when does the livecd have a login screen?
[02:31] <garrett__> powertool08: i don't remember what happened, exactly, but the guy(s)/girl(s) writing blackbox quit working on it, and some other developers picked it up
[02:31] <Ahadiel> Billenium, Try username: ubuntu password: ubuntu?
[02:31] <Acorn> thingfish: just need to change my monitor, and should the hardware driver thing automatically get the correct graphics card driver? is there any way to tell which model of graphics card it is installing a driver for?
[02:31] <garrett__> powertool08: and thus fluxbox was born
[02:31] <fireun> bigred2k579: gentoo?
[02:31] <bbyever> Ahadiel: i have had a login screen on livecds, but if you leave the fields empty you can login
[02:31] <bigred2k579> I want a OS that if it gets stolen ALL of the data on it is safe
[02:31] <Billenium> I dont know... I even unplugged my hard drive ( i corrupted the thing or something... so im using the LiveCD to try and salvage some important files)
[02:32] <Billenium> i tried ubuntu:ubuntu
[02:32] <Ahadiel> bbyever, I know some do, but I didn't think ubuntu did.
[02:32] <theFATMAN> I can no longer extract rar files, what gives?
[02:32] <Ahadiel> Billenium, ubuntu:blank?\
[02:32] <Billenium> tried it
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[02:32] <Ahadiel> hrm
[02:32] <ks3> Billenium, It's supposed to be username: ubuntu and no password
[02:32] <Painless> Billenium: which option did you take from the livecd's boot menu?
[02:32] <adama> how do you make it so that inserted media (CD-ROM, USB device etc) doesn't appear on the desktop?
[02:32] <thingfish> Acorn: is this on hardy?  Because if so, the ability to define one's display components has been taken away by the new and improved xorg.
[02:32] <Billenium> First one: install and boot from liveCD
[02:32] <garrett__> powertool08: it's light weight, looks good and integrates with just about anything
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Everyone.. please pardon a little flood as I clear out the ban list... This wont take but a minute
[02:33] <Stroganoff> theFATMAN: console: unrar
[02:33] <garrett__> powertool08: i've only got 512M in my laptop, so I dig it
[02:33] <Billenium> Ill restart and try to boot again... My CD-Drive is pretty fishy... it hates cooperating with LiveCDs
[02:33] <thingfish> Acorn: I'm assuming this is a nvidia card?
[02:33] <Acorn> thingfish: yes it is, but i'm on hardy and i just changed my display components :S
[02:33] <powertool08> garrett__: i'm thinking about switching to either enlightenment or fluxbox, i liked kde since that was my first experience, but i've been slowly migrating to more cli programs and i hate kde4
[02:33] <alexander_> hello
[02:33] <theFATMAN> stroganoff: can u clarify?
[02:33] <NeilDude> Stroganoff, during the installation of ubuntu, I did not choose a /boot or swap.  I simply chose 1 parition to be / and that's it. does that pose a problem?
[02:34] <Stroganoff> theFATMAN check if the "unrar" package is installed. if so, check terminal output if you run just "unrar"
[02:34] <thingfish> Acorn: you mean you bought new components and you're needing to configure them?
[02:34] <garrett__> powertool08: word word.  i haven't tried enlightenment since there notices saying "you really need 64M of ram to use enlightenment"
[02:34] <CharlesWillard> Can anyone help me get frostwire working in hardy? it keeps telling me that it has the wrong java
[02:34] <garrett__> powertool08: but right now gnome's using about 60M of ram just to run all the various applets and whatnot
[02:34] <adama> how do you make it so that inserted media (CD-ROM, USB device etc) doesn't appear on the desktop?
[02:35] <Acorn> thingfish: no, i just installed ubuntu for the first time. I need to get it set up with my monitor and my graphics card.
[02:35] <Stroganoff> NeilDude you dont need a /boot, but a swap comes in handy. should be no problem regarding grub though
[02:35] <theFATMAN> stroganoff, I have unrar and xarchive installed, as well as other needed files
[02:35] <alexander_> Guys. My computer doesnt give me the option to set resolution to 1920X1200, just 1600X1200... Even though my 24" can do 1920. How do i fix this? Graphic card seems to work.
[02:35] <garrett__> powertool08: but i'd say give it a shot.
[02:35] <Stroganoff> theFATMAN terminal output on "unrar"
[02:35] <NeilDude> Stroganoff, ah okay
[02:35] <powertool08> garrett__: do you know of any cli aim clients other than naim?
[02:35] <intell> I just purchased an ATI Radeon x1550. Got the drivers in. How do I use composite video in/out?
[02:36] <thingfish> Acorn: not much you can do if it doesn't work "out of the box".  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't allow one to configure video hardware anymore.
[02:36] <erisco> hey, I am using 8.04 and am unable to created a shared folder
[02:36] <garrett__> powertool08: a friend of mine mentioned he was going to try it out, and i remember reading about how the project was picking up steam after like 5 years or something a couple of years ago, so maybe they're making some cool stuff
[02:36] <Acorn> thingfish: i just tried lots of things and eventually went to the screen and display settings and changed it to my monitor model and it allowed me to change my resolution, but i had already messed things up a bit so i'm doing a clean install
[02:36] <thingfish> Acorn: you can write your own xorg.conf ;)
[02:36] <erisco> it complains I do not have permission... so I try through the terminal but cannot seem to grant write access no matter what I do
[02:36] <garrett__> powertool08: nope.  i haven't used a cli aim client in years
[02:36] <Stroganoff> alexander_ Xorg is till pretty inflexible.., try editing Xorg conf with this tool: http://bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/
[02:36] <erisco> any ideas?
[02:36] <theFATMAN> stroganoff, just a second
[02:36] <grndslm> heya... i'm using hardy, & i fdisked an old hard drive i had, rebooted... and now i'm trying to mkfs.ext3 the partition... but it says it's "in use by the system" even tho i've umounted everything there is to umount!!
[02:36] <powertool08> garrett__: do you not use aim anymore or use something like pidgin?
[02:36] <garrett__> powertool08: you could look into writing your own, though.  you could use the pidgin libs
[02:37] <bbyever> ﻿erisco: in a terminal su -l then try again
[02:37] <Acorn> thingfish: i don't think i need to , i think it was the fact that the monitor was set to plug and play that stopped me from changing my resolution
[02:37] <theFATMAN> stroganoff: filetype not supported
[02:37] <garrett__> powertool08: i use pidgin for aim
[02:37] <Stroganoff> theFATMAN use "unrar e archive.rar"
[02:37] <erisco> bbyever, it says authentication failure =
[02:37] <theFATMAN> stroganoff, it doesnt make sense, i was using it earlier
[02:37] <bbyever> ﻿erisco: with the root password?
[02:37] <theFATMAN> stroganoff, ok
[02:37] <erisco> bbyever, yes
[02:37] <garrett__> powertool08: on win32, too.  though this stupid bruhah with the size of the conversation box in the new pidgin build is really annoying
[02:37] <garrett__> powertool08: so i might start using the pidgin fork
[02:38] <bbyever> ﻿erisco: sure you typed it correclty?
[02:38] <erisco> bbyever, absolutely
[02:38] <thingfish> Acorn: ok well it sounds like you had better luck than I did.  Doing things the right way, I could never get more than 1024x768 using the nv driver, and only 640x480 using the nvidia driver.  I had to resort to replacing the hardy xorg.conf with one from gutsy.
[02:38] <alexander_> Stroganoff: weird thing is that it used to work before. but now it only  give me the 1600 option. should i add 1920 manually to xorg.conf and reboot?
[02:38] <Acorn> is there any difference between setting your graphics card to nvidia or geforce4 (generic) or legacy?
[02:38] <garrett__> aleX-xx: you don't need to reboot to do that.  just ctrl+alt+bksp your X window
[02:38] <el1te> if a package is included with this distro it is this channel policy to support it isnt it
[02:38] <Stroganoff> alexander_ yes add the modeline manually. dont reboot though, just press ctrl+alt+backspace when ready.
[02:38] <el1te> i mean i can ask rightfully right?
[02:38] <erisco> bbyever, the password works for all other root operations
[02:39] <erisco> bbyever, no idea what is going wrong ehre
[02:39] <bbyever> ﻿erisco: try sudo instead, at the beginning of your command
[02:39] <garrett__> elite: i don't know about policy, but the convention is to help where you can
[02:39] <erisco> bbyever, haha, sudo su -l
[02:39] <cohonen> do i need an extra mirror to get qt-4.4 ?
[02:39] <erisco> bbyever, of course
[02:39] <alexander_> Stroganoff:  could you help me edit the xorg.conf file?
[02:39] <erisco> bbyever, but this does not help me...
[02:39] <el1te> garrett__  1st thing ppl ask is what distro you using
[02:39] <erisco> bbyever, the issue is through the file browser GUI I cannot create a share
[02:39] <dabbill> I am tryin to get my music to only come up when my music player is running, but for some reason the if_running is not working correctly, when i open my music player its only displayin the first line after ${if_running rhythmbox} and not the rest of it
[02:40] <garrett__> el1te: yeah?  so?  lots of distros have pecularities
[02:40] <bbyever> ﻿erisco: sudo nautilus
[02:40] <erisco> bbyever, so I decided to use net usershare to do it myself but regardless of what I do I cannot seem to grant write persmissions
[02:40] <el1te> does anyone use their optical out from there comp to their home reciever
[02:40] <garrett__> el1te: if you were using slackware, i wouldn't tell you to apt-get something.  if you were using debian i wouldn't tell you to get an .rpm
[02:40] <theFATMAN> stroganoff, how do i: 'enable component called multiverse'?
[02:40] <Stroganoff> alexander_ add the modeline to the "Monitor" section
[02:41] <el1te> garrett__ "[20:39] <garrett__> elite: i don't know about policy, but the convention is to help where you can"
[02:41] <bbyever> ﻿erisco: sudo nautilus
[02:41] <erisco> bbyever, I tried sudo nautilus --browser but it doesn't recognize it as a command
[02:41] <thingfish> Acorn: dunno...but you most definitely want to choose the one that most closely matches your hardware.
[02:41] <garrett__> el1te: that's apropos to what?
[02:41] <bbyever> ﻿erisco: just sudo nautilus
[02:41] <erisco> bbyever, even though it says it is one
[02:41] <alexander_> I didnt understand much of that xorg modline-tool... sorry... but i have the specs of my monitor: it can do 1920x1200, Horizontal Frequency : 31-94kHz, Vertical Frequency : 50~85Hz. can you help me create a modline that i should add?
[02:41] <el1te> you try and help no matter the distro
[02:41] <garrett__> el1te: i do, personally, yes.
[02:41] <bbyever> ﻿erisco: try it without the --browser option
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> el1te No.. we support it UNDER ubuntu.. not some other distro
[02:42] <Acorn> thingfish: on the official nvidia website my card comes under legacy, but it is also a geforce4 card
[02:42] <garrett__> el1te: but as a general principle, i think the convention is simply to help where you can.
[02:42] <el1te> ppl dont help no one if someone came in here and said they ran suse
[02:42] <el1te> they would say goto #opensuse
[02:42] <garrett__> el1te: in this channel go figure, the topic is ubuntu
[02:42] <el1te> jesus we all know that
[02:42] <erisco> bbyever, okay how do I get out of root
[02:42] <thingfish> Acorn: yes, geforce4 is legacy
[02:42] <erisco> bbyever, thanks by the way, worked well
[02:42] <garrett__> el1te: what was your point?
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude | el1te
[02:42] <theFATMAN> how do i enable the 'multiverse' component?
[02:42] <el1te> this conversation got sidetracked from the real problem
[02:42] <bbyever> ﻿erisco: close the window or the terminal which you tiped the command from
[02:42] <Acorn> thingfish: when i first installed it popped up a thing saying that restricted drivers were availiable for my gfx, and i think that set my gfx to just nvidia
[02:42] <bbyever> ﻿erisco: np
[02:42] <garrett__> el1te: i was simply saying that there's no mandate saying that we have to be completely familiar with every package in ubuntu
[02:42] <erisco> bbyever, I must have got the net usershare syntax wrong because my ACL arguments ended up in the share comments :P
[02:42] <thingfish> Acorn: that is what's supposed to happen.
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> el1te what does lsb_release -a show  exactly
[02:43] <garrett__> el1te: if there's no one here that can/wants to offer support for something, you will recieve no support.
[02:43] <erisco> bbyever, ah, okay, thank-you
[02:43] <el1te> Jack_Sparrowi alread said i was running kubuntu 8.04 kde remix
[02:43] <el1te> several times
[02:43] <Painless> alexander_: instead of a modeline, you might want to try just inputing your vert and horiz refresh rates into the monitor section instead... that used to do that trick for me
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> el1te what does lsb_release -a show  exactly
[02:43] <Acorn> thingfish: hmm, well, my installation has just finished so i'll try enabling the restricted driver, and then setting the monitor setting to the correct make and model
[02:43] <el1te> if it shows the same thing i just typed im gonna be man
[02:44] <Acorn> hopefully that will work
[02:44] <el1te> Jack_Sparrow i cant paste all that in channel
[02:44] <el1te> what part you want
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> el1te Use a pastebin
[02:44] <adama> in debian with Gnome, how do you make it so that inserted media (CD-ROM, USB device etc) doesn't appear on the desktop?
[02:44] <dabbill> I am tryin to get my music to only come up when my music player is running, but for some reason the if_running is not working correctly, when i open my music player its only displayin the first line after ${if_running rhythmbox} and not the rest of it
[02:44] <Acorn> !paste | el1te
[02:44] <el1te> ok you better do this to other ppl also
[02:44] <el1te> not just me
[02:44] <adama> I mean ubuntu
[02:45] <el1te> from now on you going to tell them that command to
[02:45] <alexander_> Painless: ok. where is the monitor section?
[02:45] <danbhfive> adama: edit your fstab so the mount point is somewhere other than /media/whatever
[02:45] <adama> in ubuntu with Gnome, how do you make it so that inserted media (CD-ROM, USB device etc) doesn't appear on the desktop?
[02:45] <el1te> i told you im on kubuntu 8.04 kde remix...something else you need
[02:45] <adama> hmmm
[02:45] <el1te> ill paste it
[02:45] <el1te> but man is there something in there special your not getting cause i dont see it
[02:45] <NeilDude> okay, I am attempting to install Ubuntu for the 2nd time today. If the grub boot loader fails to work again, then it proves once again that Linux is a pile of junk
[02:46] <garrett__> NeilDude: what happens?
[02:46] <garrett__> NeilDude: and no it doesn't
[02:46] <NeilDude> garrett__, error 17.
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> el1te Your attitude is a big part of why you do not already have an answer
[02:46] <garrett__> NeilDude: you tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945 already?
[02:46] <danbhfive> NeilDude: error 17 may mean your harddrive is dieing, FYI, so backup!
[02:46] <el1te> http://pastebin.ca/1027622
[02:46] <NeilDude> garrett__, I have attempted to fix it through the shell on the alternative CD and the gui way. both have failed.
[02:46] <garrett__> Jack_Sparrow: someone had to say it
[02:47] <el1te> why ppl keep on making me jump through hoops for nothng
[02:47] <powertool08> garrett__: not sure how to pm... i'm using irssi
[02:47] <NeilDude> garrett__, yes I tried that.
[02:47] <cohonen> NeilDude: no just that ubuntus installer is
[02:47] <alexander_> Painless: where is this "monitor section"? is it in a menu somewhere, or in the xorg.conf?
[02:47] <el1te> here is the pastebin http://pastebin.ca/1027622 tell me whats in there that is diff then me saying i had kubuntu 8.04 kde remix
[02:47] <thingfish> Acorn: what tool are you using to configure your monitor?
[02:47] <garrett__> el1te: because an alien god smote you as a child for sins your doppleganger in a parallel dimension commited
[02:47] <Stroganoff> alexander_ Xorg.conf
[02:47] <Painless> alexander_: check your pm's
[02:48] <el1te> garrett__ what is the diff of info that was missing
[02:48] <garrett__> powertool08: /msg nick msg
[02:48] <el1te> why dont oyu answer
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> el1te You said you were using kubuntu yet that shows ubuntu
[02:48] <Painless> alexander_: looks like pm's are blocked... in /etc/X11/xorg.conf look for a section that begins 'Section "Monitor" '
[02:48] <garrett__> el1te: because after getting a jist for your attitude, i didn't feel like scrolling up and wasting my time.
[02:48] <darkrillin> hello world
[02:48] <el1te> Jack_Sparrow trust me i know the diff between kde and gnome
[02:48] <theFATMAN> how do i enable the 'multiverse' component?
[02:49] <el1te> and i know the diff from kde 3.5 and 4.0
[02:49] <tarelerulz> I am using Istanbul for capturing my screen and none of the video editor seem to read the file it makes.  I can watch it  ,but I can't use avidmux and open movie editor loads it ,but I don't see the video .  So I am wondering does anyone know of a good video editor that reads Theora video and Vorbis sound
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> el1te Perhaps I should forward you to #Kubuntu
[02:49] <NeilDude> garrett__, I am going to record a video and put it on youtube. I'm tired of explaining the many ways I do something properly and and all hell breaks loose somehow screwing everything up.  I haven't been able to install linux on my pc since ubunutu 6.
[02:49] <el1te> Jack_Sparrow perhaps i should install a real OS that works?
[02:49] <el1te> windows is the only thing that works
[02:50] <el1te> takes 5seconds
[02:50] <NeilDude> oh god i totally freaking agree.
[02:50] <garrett__> NeilDude: i wish i could help you out a bit so you didn't have a sour taste in your mouth, but i've never come across that problem, so i haven't had to fix it myself
[02:50] <bbyever> ﻿el1te: nobody is making you install ubuntu
[02:50] <smmagic> If you guys don't like linux
[02:50] <airstrike> i've just installed django through ubuntu's package manager and i was reading a tutorial that would tell me to create a symbolic link in /var/www to /django_src/django/contrib/admin/media. this tutorial was made based on checking out a working copy of django through svn, so the path is off for me.. where can i find that in my system?
[02:50] <smmagic> Keep it to yourself
[02:50] <dabbill> el11te, windows does not work
[02:50] <smmagic> Don't bother us about it
[02:50] <yuti> Joshua 11
[02:50] <yuti> 1And it came to pass, when Jabin king of Hazor had heard those things, that he sent to Jobab king of Madon, and to the king of Shimron, and to the king of Achshaph,
[02:50] <yuti> 2And to the kings that were on the north of the mountains, and of the plains south of Chinneroth, and in the valley, and in the borders of Dor on the west,
[02:50] <el1te> if someone could have helped me by now they would have....its been a long week
[02:50] <alexander_> Painless: i see. in my xorg.conf, under "monitor" it says: Identifier	"Configured Monitor". and thats it.
[02:50] <yuti> 3And to the Canaanite on the east and on the west, and to the Amorite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Jebusite in the mountains, and to the Hivite under Hermon in the land of Mizpeh.
[02:50] <FloodBot3> yuti: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:50] <yuti> 4And they went out, they and all their hosts with them, much people, even as the sand that is upon the sea shore in multitude, with horses and chariots very many.
[02:51] <yuti> 5And when all these kings were met together, they came and pitched together at the waters of Merom, to fight against Israel.
[02:51] <airstrike> !ban yuti
[02:51] <airstrike> thanks
[02:51] <theFATMAN> how do i enable the 'multiverse' component?
[02:51] <garrett__> airstrike: i dunno, but i'd say try 'cd / ; find | grep django'
[02:51] <Painless> alexander_: join #monitor  so I dont flood here
[02:51] <garrett__> airstrike: that'll tell you about all the files with 'django' in them
[02:51] <Acorn> thingfish: byron1 told me earlier, it's usr/share/applications/screens and graphics
[02:51] <Starnestommy> theFATMAN: system > administration > software sources?
[02:51] <airstrike> thanks
[02:51] <garrett__> airstrike: my guess is you'll be able to figure out the root django dir from there
[02:51] <tyler_2> I cannot enable the desktop effects on 7.10 with an nvidia card, produces a generic error and nothing definative written to my log files?
[02:51] <garrett__> airstrike: sure ting :)
[02:51] <Acorn> thingfish: seems odd that it's so inaccessible though
[02:52] <el1te> jsut tell me this...a quick poll if you will...does anyone use ubuntu/kubuntu/ANY LINUX (that is in this room) with optical-out?
[02:52] <airstrike> /usr/share/doc/python-django
[02:52] <airstrike> :>
[02:52] <theFATMAN> Starnestommy, i'm gonna check it out, wasnt sure, lol, thanx, and brb
[02:52] <garrett__> airstrike: nice!
[02:52] <airstrike> what's that ; for?
[02:52] <Starnestommy> airstrike: it separates commands so that you can run several on one line
[02:53] <airstrike> i see
[02:53] <powertool08> garrett__: did you get any of my messages? freenode says unregistered user pm's are blocked due to spam problems
[02:53] <garrett__> airstrike: it's a command separator.  command1 ; command2.  so 'cd / ; find | grep django' cd's to your root dir then runs find from there
[02:53] <airstrike> so it's really just 'find | grep django'
[02:53] <garrett__> powertool08: i didn't
[02:53] <airstrike> yup
[02:53] <airstrike> thanks
[02:53] <dabbill> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14236/ any one help with my if_running code for my music? If i start my music player after conky is started it will only display Music and nothing after it.
[02:53] <garrett__> powertool08: are you registered with nickserv?
[02:53] <el1te> Jack_Sparrow you see that Q i asked
[02:53] <el1te> that Poll?
[02:53] <powertool08> garrett__: no i'm not
[02:54] <tarelerulz> ﻿el1te , What do you mean by  optical-out ?
[02:54] <garrett__> powertool08: ah, that's why.  suffice it to say that we're on the same page?
[02:54] <el1te> toslinlk cable
[02:54] <erty> Joshua 15
[02:54] <erty> 1This then was the lot of the tribe of the children of Judah by their families; even to the border of Edom the wilderness of Zin southward was the uttermost part of the south coast.
[02:54] <erty> 2And their south border was from the shore of the salt sea, from the bay that looketh southward:
[02:54] <yojesus_1> im unable to hear any type of sound if firefox but im able to listent to music and watch videos on rythmbox
[02:54] <powertool08> perhaps?
[02:54] <tyler_2> can I make a sh link executable?
[02:55] <el1te> its a fiberoptic cable used for the transmission of sound signals...ie...replaces the old analog rca cable with phone jack ends
[02:55] <joe_chat> tyler_2: in terminal chmod 777 filename
[02:55] <tyler_2> joe_chat: ty
[02:55] <joe_chat> tyler_2: with sudo
[02:55] <dassouki> is there a way to get firefox and rhythm box working together ?
[02:55] <thingfish> hey Acorn thanks for that info - had NO idea that stuff was there
[02:56] <garrett__> powertool08: or you can register with nickserv and be able to send msg's
[02:56] <garrett__> powertool08: /msg nickserv register, i think
[02:56] <joe_chat> dassouki: take them out to dinner
[02:56] <Starnestommy> powertool08: /msg nickserv register your-password-here
[02:57] <Acorn> thingfish: yeah, i think with most lcd monitors ubuntu detects it automatically and knows the resolution, but with an old ctr it just sets it to plug and play and you can't set it to a higher resolution than 640x480
[02:57] <dabbill> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14236/ any one help with my if_running code for my music? If i start my music player after conky is started it will only display Music and nothing after it.
[02:57] <el1te> Jack_Sparrow nvidia licensed the tecjh from dolby i think....that is why boards that have the soundstorm apu like the xbox1 cost more...the license lets you have the ddl encoder....idk if linux has this included do you?
[02:57] <zero88> Can someone help me connecting my phone to Ubuntu?
[02:57] <garrett__> acron: you have to specify the modelines yourself if the monitor doesn't support EDID values (which is basically like a bios in the monitor that gives the OS the modelines it supports)
[02:57] <uti> Joshua 16
[02:57] <uti> 1And the lot of the children of Joseph fell from Jordan by Jericho, unto the water of Jericho on the east, to the wilderness that goeth up from Jericho throughout mount Bethel,
[02:57] <uti> 2And goeth out from Bethel to Luz, and passeth along unto the borders of Archi to Ataroth,
[02:58] <uti> 3And goeth down westward to the coast of Japhleti, unto the coast of Bethhoron the nether, and to Gezer; and the goings out thereof are at the sea.
[02:58] <FloodBot3> uti: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:58] <garrett__> is it good friday or something?
[02:58] <el1te> wuth the windows binary driver comes the licensed codec i guess
[02:58] <bullgard4> What are 'host access files control files for? (found in man 5 hosts_access)
[02:58] <Starnestommy> !don't feed the troll
[02:58] <garrett__> haha
[02:59] <Maslow> Well im gonna step out for a while, thanks again Ahadiel.
[02:59] <intell> I just purchased an ATI Radeon x1550. Got the drivers in. How do I use composite video in/out?
[02:59] <garrett__> i don't think that's a troll so much as someone lazily doing god's work or whatever.
[02:59] <Acorn> haha, why is power manager coming up on my desktop computer? :P
[02:59] <el1te> no one knows the answer to my Q?
[02:59] <bazhang> el1te, what is it
[03:00] <bullgard4> Acorn: It comes up by default in Hardy.
[03:00] <el1te> about DDL/DTS hardware sound cards
[03:00] <el1te> linux dont do DDL/DTS for 5.1 gaming does it
[03:00] <bazhang> !who | el1te
[03:00] <el1te> did you see what i wrote
[03:01] <Starnestommy> el1te: yes
[03:01] <el1te> anyone know anything about this
[03:01] <Pici> el1te: Have you tried the ubuntu forums as well?
[03:01] <el1te> when it uses a media player the media player has codecs to make 5.1 audio streams right? well gaming is completely different it "ENCODES" to 5,1
[03:02] <rer> Joshua 18
[03:02] <rer> 1And the whole congregation of the children of Israel assembled together at Shiloh, and set up the tabernacle of the congregation there. And the land was subdued before them.
[03:02] <rer> 2And there remained among the children of Israel seven tribes, which had not yet received their inheritance.
[03:02] <rer> 3And Joshua said unto the children of Israel, How long are ye slack to go to possess the land, which the LORD God of your fathers hath given you?
[03:02] <FloodBot3> rer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:02] <el1te> well baisacally im just saying if linux ppl made the driver it wont do DDL/DTS it will have to be a binary driver with that licensed codec right?
[03:02] <Acorn> what does selecting your graphics card model in "screen and graphics" do?
[03:02] <bazhang> el1te, please hang on a second while I search, ie wait until I give an answer before repeating again thanks
[03:03] <el1te> i was explaining not repeating
[03:03] <bazhang> el1te, you want my help or not?
[03:03] <el1te> hey i think i know already and im trying to help you
[03:03] <tuchki> hello
[03:04] <el1te> i just gave you more info then you know what to do with
[03:04] <bazhang> el1te, is that a yes or a no?
[03:04] <tuchki> somebody know how can i install freewins plug in for compiz?
[03:04] <SeaPhor> el11te, i would listen to bazhang , your best chance fr help
[03:04] <el1te> i know DDL and DTS are licensed i guarantee linux cant do it
[03:04] <el1te> its not free
[03:04] <el1te> i should have thought before i installed kubuntu
[03:04] <intell> I just purchased an ATI Radeon x1550. Got the drivers in. How do I use composite video in/out?
[03:05] <bazhang> el1te, still waiting on your answer; you need my help or not
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> el1te then you know the answer..  end of story
[03:05] <el1te> help in which part...trying to fix my problem with sound or the info i gave you you are going to research?
[03:06] <bigsexy> hey i got a question
[03:06] <el1te> Jack_Sparrow you are correct and you know what i mean dont you...linux cant do it unless its included with the binary drivers or is some illegal hacked software
[03:06] <tonewhy> hi i was wondering how to get the wpa working. in the router configuration it says to choose a passphrase, then it says renewal in 3600s. does that mean the passwrd changes everytime and disconnects my wirelesss?
[03:06] <bigsexy> does anyone know if damn small linux has wifi enabled by default?
[03:06] <tuchki> somebody know how can i install freewins plug in for compiz?
[03:06] <Invisionfree> Jack_Sparrow: Whenever I click Print in ANYTHING, firefox, gedit, etc, it freezes the program .. Why, and how can I fix it?
[03:06] <bazhang> bigsexy, doubtful and offtopic here :)
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> el1te I guess it cant do it.. end of story. So stop this line of discussion or get tagged as a troll
[03:07] <saint__> Woohoo Windows free for a week.
[03:07] <el1te> i just helped this whole channel....what are you talking about
[03:07] <el1te> if anyone asks about 5.1 someone who read what i wrote will say linux cant do it with 5.1 gaming
[03:07] <el1te> thats good info
[03:08] <SeaPhor> !congrats
[03:08] <test> i need some help useing emearld themes how do i get them to work i installed the mearald them thing but theyy wont work
[03:08] <oscar> Hola
[03:08] <bazhang> !yay | saint__
[03:08] <tonewhy> can anyone help me out?
[03:08] <oscar> Alguien que hable español?
[03:08] <tonewhy> i was wondering how to get the wpa working. in the router configuration it says to choose a passphrase, then it says renewal in 3600s. does that mean the passwrd changes everytime and disconnects my wirelesss?
[03:08] <bbyever> !es | ﻿oscar:
[03:08] <Pici> !es | oscar
[03:08] <SeaPhor> congrats saint__
[03:08] <bazhang> !ot | el1te
[03:08] <evilbug> when's 8.10 coming out?
[03:08] <el1te> thnx
[03:08] <Starnestommy> el1te: in October
[03:08] <Starnestommy> er, evilbug
[03:08] <yourmama> Joshua 22
[03:08] <yourmama> 1Then Joshua called the Reubenites, and the Gadites, and the half tribe of Manasseh,
[03:08] <el1te> lol
[03:08] <bazhang> please take chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic el1te
[03:08] <yourmama> 2And said unto them, Ye have kept all that Moses the servant of the LORD commanded you, and have obeyed my voice in all that I commanded you:
[03:09] <yourmama> 3Ye have not left your brethren these many days unto this day, but have kept the charge of the commandment of the LORD your God.
[03:09] <zcat[1]> tonewhy: no, renewal should only be for the dhcp lease (and it will just ask and get the same address again usually)
[03:09] <FloodBot3> yourmama: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:09] <Invisionfree> Jack_Sparrow: Whenever I click Print in ANYTHING, firefox, gedit, etc, it freezes the program .. Why, and how can I fix it?
[03:09] <danbhfive> evilbug: 8.10 comes out in 2008/10
[03:09] <pretender> What can i use to make DVD Case Inserts in ubuntu have tried glabels but it doesn't do it.  Any Suggestions
[03:09] <test> i need some help i got the emearld themeaer and i imported a theme i want but it wont work
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Invisionfree did it ever work?
[03:09] <el1te> bazhang after you thank me for teaching you something that you were going to try and look up and i saved you time
[03:09] <zcat[1]> yourmama: sudo apt-get install gnomesword
[03:09] <saint__> What's the big changes in 8.10?
[03:09] <evilbug> right.
[03:09] <Invisionfree> Jack_Sparrow: No idea, this is the first time I've had a printer to try it :(
[03:09] <bazhang> el1te, please stop
[03:09] <el1te> you keep having bot send me shit
[03:10] <el1te> you stop
[03:10] <test> i need some help i got the emearld themeaer and i imported a theme i want but it wont wor
[03:10] <bazhang> zcat[1], :)
[03:10] <test> i need some help i got the emearld themeaer and i imported a theme i want but it wont wor
[03:11] <dabbill> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14236/ any one help with my if_running code for my music? If i start my music player after conky is started it will only display Music and nothing after it.
[03:11] <saint__> I am having the same emerald problem.
[03:11] <Invisionfree> Jack_Sparrow: No idea, this is the first time I've had a printer to try it :?
[03:11] <test> i need some help i got the emearld themeaer and i imported a theme i want but it wont wor
[03:12] <diddl> @emerald: have you activated emerald as your window decorator already? typing 'emerald --replace' in console would start it for example
[03:12] <test> i need some help i got the emearld themeaer and i imported a theme i want but it wont wor
[03:12] <test> diddl: whats the code i forgot it
[03:12] <zcat[1]> test: alt-F2 and type "emeraly --replace"
[03:12] <Qster> evdev mouse support anyone know how?
[03:13] <zcat[1]> test: alt-F2 and type "emerald --replace" sorry
[03:13] <ynyus77> can anybody tell me which webcam is best compatable for ubuntu
[03:13] <judgepg> folks, whats the best way to power off a USB hard drive?
[03:13] <zcat[1]> and also in compizconfig-settings-manager, windows decorations tab change the window decorator to emerald
[03:13] <test> zcat[1]: isnt it emerald --replace & disow or something
[03:14] <zcat[1]> .. or something.
[03:14] <InGunsWeTrust> has anybody gotten the built in remote desktop on 8.04 to work
[03:14] <bbyever> ﻿judgepg: unmount it?
[03:14] <test> isnt it emerald --replace & disow or something
[03:14] <diddl> @emerald and ccsm: changing it there does not work for me. I had to include a 'emerald --replace' in my session startup
[03:14] <judgepg> bbyever: thanks for your answer.  How about turning the power off it
[03:14] <zcat[1]> no idea, but mine is working and yours isn't .. take it or leave it :)
[03:15] <Invisionfree> Jack_Sparrow: No idea, this is the first time I've had a printer to try it :?
[03:15] <ynyus77> hello everyone
[03:15] <test> does anyone know what the code is for emaerald themes
[03:15] <judgepg> bbyever, can I kill the power safely after umount, or that's not really controlled by Ubuntu
[03:15] <bbyever> ﻿judgepg: it should be safe after unmounting it
[03:15] <judgepg> bbyever, thanks buddy
[03:15] <NeilDude> okay you guys. moment of truth! I just followed a tutorial word for word and i am at a stopping point not because "i" screwed something up, but because LINUX screwed something up.
[03:15] <bbyever> ﻿judgepg: np
[03:15] <test> is it emerald --replace & disown
[03:15] <ynyus77> can anybody help me choose
[03:16] <ynyus77> a webcam
[03:16] <bazhang> !webcam | ynyus77
[03:16] <NeilDude> I have 1 of 2 options.  Give up.  2. hurt people!
[03:16] <NeilDude> you decide!
[03:16] <ynyus77> thanks
[03:16] <gamui> hey people
[03:16] <bazhang> NeilDude, ask a question
[03:16] <zcat[1]> test: that would be in the terminal, so that emerald goes background and doesn't get killed when you close the terminal.. I says alt-F2, not terminal
[03:16] <bazhang> NeilDude, and stay on topic
[03:16] <NeilDude> bazhang, why does linux suck so much?
[03:16] <elkbuntu> NeilDude, with that attitude, i advise giving up. hurting people will only cause you more trouble.
[03:17] <Starnestommy> NeilDude: because that is your opinion on linux
[03:17] <gamui> wow, special conversation
[03:17] <bbyever> ﻿NeilDude: if you dont like it, use windows or os x or whatever you see fit
[03:17] <Br0k3> ok
[03:17] <elkbuntu> yep, definately time to give up NeilDude.
[03:17] <zcat[1]> NeilDude: all OSes suck .. linux doesn't suck as much as some others..
[03:17] <bazhang> NeilDude, bad timing
[03:17] <gamui> UBUNTU OWNS!
[03:17] <NeilDude> The grub package failed to install into /target/. without the grub boot loader, the installed system will not boot. AMAZING.
[03:17] <Br0k3> anyone have tx2000z?
[03:17] <Invisionfree> Why does it freeze whenever I click Print in any program? Hardy, anyone help?
[03:17] <Templarian> Huge tip for you guys don't edit your config files from windows... they should put a warning about that.
[03:18] <rabid> you can use dos2unix
[03:18] <zcat[1]> Ubuntu would suck slightly less if I could find a way to record /dev/video0; composite1 without having to screen-record tvtime
[03:18] <NeilDude> i would have to say that grub boot loader is a big piece of sh*t!
[03:18] <Nehal> i'm trying to connect to my network. dmesg shows a message like this: wlan0: authentication with [my router] timed out.      i have bcm4306 and i have run the b43-fwcutter. i have kernel 2.6.24
[03:18] <gamui> oh pulease, windows is cheap, copier and costs. apple just is too, white. so UBUNTU OWNS
[03:18] <Mosh1> ;(
[03:18] <bazhang> NeilDude, stop with the profanity
[03:18] <rabid> can anyone help me with mdadm? i am having a problem with 2 UUIDS showing up in examine mode
[03:18] <gamui> so does nintendo.. hehe
[03:18] <Qster> anyone notice myspace pages lag really bad?
[03:18] <prettyricky> How do I add a splash theme?
[03:18] <Qster> when they shouldnt really.. well not this comp anyhow
[03:19] <InGunsWeTrust> does anybody have any pointers on making xubuntu eat as little system resources as possible? like services and stuff i can turn off
[03:19] <gamui> ubuntu?
[03:19] <Invisionfree> Why does it freeze whenever I click Print in any program? Hardy, anyone help????
[03:19] <gamui> ok, people.
[03:19] <garrett__> NeilDude: then go back to windows.  goodbye.
[03:19] <zcat[1]> InGunsWeTrust: yeah, turn off all the ones you don't need :)
[03:19] <gamui> just installed wine
[03:19] <Qster> now get a glass.
[03:19] <Painless> gamui: make sure to let it breath before you drink it
[03:19] <prettyricky> How do I add a splash theme?
[03:20] <bazhang> prettyricky, !usplash
[03:20] <garrett__> NeilDude: and google "vista compatibility" while you're at it.  cheers.
[03:20] <gamui> hahaha.. >_<
[03:20] <wladston> I'm unable to setup my second monitor and I'm totally clueless of what can I do to have it working .... help is really appreciated!
[03:20] <gamui> haha
[03:20] <Painless> gamui: ill get my coat...... :(
[03:20] <prettyricky> i have start up manager but when I try to add a new one It wont show up
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> e are looking in the irc logs... can someone point me to a specific time in there or a name
[03:20] <Mosh1> Kay, can someone give me some advice on why my screen is little diffrent colored lines with 7.04 during install
[03:20] <danbhfive> InGunsWeTrust: you could try installing a minimal install, and then just install xfce.  Maybe that will work
[03:20] <garrett__> wladston: google about for "dual monitor ubuntu"
[03:21] <bazhang> !usplash | prettyricky
[03:21] <garrett__> wladston: i hate to send you off to google, but there are lots of good how-tos and tutorials on the topic
[03:21] <gamui> people, install and go on atlantic.
[03:21] <wladston> garrett__: I have ... got a long time ....
[03:21] <garrett__> wladston: hahaha
[03:21] <gamui> tell me when your on
[03:21] <bazhang> !twinhead | wladston
[03:21] <bbyever> ﻿InGunsWeTrust: or you might want to install fluxbuntu
[03:21] <garrett__> wladston: i've only done it with nvidia
[03:21] <NeilDude> garrett__, there will always be a divide between linux users and everyone else. when you fail to meet success with windows, you just try again and it works. nobody smites you for your rage.  if you fail at linux, you try again and fail again.  then when you smite linux, there's a whole community of people smiting you. you people are called fanboys and you don't help in any way
[03:21] <bazhang> !dualhead | wladston
[03:21] <garrett__> wladston: nvidia has a nice little tool to do it, actually
[03:21] <blah561> In "Gene," a PHP IDE, I receive a permission denied for attempting to overwrite a file on the desktop?  Why is the permission denied?  I really dislike using the "nautilus," or whatever it is, as it does not looks like the theme I have applied, it looks rather ugly.
[03:21] <gamui> obsessive programming people
[03:22] <gamui> sigh
[03:22] <NeilDude> linux is a piece of shit.
[03:22]  * Jade_Warlord Winamp: Love Pop Ballad - Hello - Lionel Richie [04:19m/192Kbps/44KHz]
[03:22] <wladston> garrett__: I'm stuck with an Intel card on my notebook
[03:22] <Invisionfree> Why does it freeze whenever I click Print in any program? Hardy, anyone help???? H E L L O I A M S T I L L H E R E.
[03:22] <Traveler2> hi folks, i've followed a tutorial to backup my box to another box by gzip-ing everything in my root, then copying it accross and unzipping, this has worked ok but now on boot I get "waiting for root filesystem"   can this be repaired?
[03:22] <gamui> Neildude: WHAT?????? maybe you prefer other shit like windows or mac... YOUR CRAZY
[03:23] <Pici> !language
[03:23] <garrett__> NeilDude: i'm not a fanboy.  i've written code for linux and for windows.  i've admin'd linux and windows servers, solaris, irix and vms.  every operating system has its strengths and weaknesses.  you're faulting an entire operating system for a component written by a group of people completely disjoint from the rest of linux.
[03:23] <Jade_Warlord> hey guys i need to ask why i can't install ubuntu with 2 partition it already
[03:23] <blah561> Any ideas how I can allow to have "permission" to overwrite this file?
[03:23] <garrett__> NeilDude: there's no central "linux."  there are people that work on the bootloader.  there are people that work on drivers.  there are people that work on file systems.
[03:23] <rabid> is there somewhere to pastebin the output of my mdadm --examine --verbose ?
[03:23] <bbyever> ﻿garrett__: hes gone dude
[03:23] <bbyever> ﻿garrett__: oh nvm
[03:23] <blah561> I﻿n "Gene," a PHP IDE, I receive a permission denied for attempting to overwrite a file on the desktop?  Why is the permission denied?  I really dislike using the "nautilus," or whatever it is, as it does not looks like the theme I have applied, it looks rather ugly.
[03:23] <garrett__> NeilDude: you're having a very peculiar problem.  i'm sorry, and i'm sure it's frustrating.  but at the same time, linux != grub
[03:24] <gamui> soory for the language i am just TOO suprised
[03:24] <NeilDude> garrett__, I just don't understand how it could fail to work. i chose the harddrive. I installed it. then grub gives me error 17. i've tried 3 ways to solve the problem, all 3 ways result in deadends.
[03:24] <gamui> dudes
[03:24] <Invisionfree> Why does it freeze whenever I click Print in any program? Hardy, anyone help???? H E L L O I A M S T I L L H E R E.
[03:24] <NeilDude> is there no way to fix error 17?
[03:24] <gamui> do you have a life?
[03:24] <garrett__> NeilDude: hold on a second, i'll read up on what that might mean
[03:24] <wladston> pidgim is freezing chat windows on me :(
[03:24] <blah561> I﻿n "Gene," a PHP IDE, I receive a permission denied for attempting to overwrite a file on the desktop?  Why is the permission denied?  I really dislike using the "nautilus," or whatever it is, as it does not looks like the theme I have applied, it looks rather ugly.
[03:24] <bazhang> gamui, stop with the comments please
[03:25] <danbhfive> NeilDude: I looked up the error, and it could mean your harddrive is corrupting
[03:25] <bbyever> ﻿NeilDude: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[03:25] <gamui> pdgin is better than this ***
[03:25] <NeilDude> danbhfive, absolutely not true.
[03:25] <Starnestommy> Invisionfree: it could be a bad printer driver, bad cups setting, or an incompatible printer
[03:25] <dabbill> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14236/ any one help with my if_running code for my music? If i start my music player after conky is started it will only display Music and nothing after it.
[03:25] <Invisionfree> Starnestommy: I can print test pages.
[03:25] <NeilDude> danbhfive, I have attempted to install linux on multiple different hardrives. grub boot loader error 17 persists.
[03:25] <gamui> i take it, you people like linux so much that you lost your mind, sigh, like facebook for SOME
[03:26] <garrett__> NeilDude: can you tell me wat three things you've tried so i'm not looking down another dead end?
[03:26] <bazhang> gamui, please stop now
[03:26] <gamui> me? or him?
[03:26] <bazhang> gamui, you
[03:26] <Starnestommy> gamui: you
[03:26] <gamui> fine
[03:26] <gamui> fine
[03:26] <Starnestommy> Invisionfree: is anything able to print besides the test pages, or is everything failing besides the test pages?
[03:26] <zero88> gamui, YOU!
[03:26] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know anything about adding add-ons to firefox that report back the error, "Failed to load XPCOM component: /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9b5/components/pyabout.py" I've only experienced probably with add-ons since I upgraded to 8.04
[03:26] <garrett__> NeilDude: also, are you using a raid controller (hardware or software) and if possible, what sort of motherboard do you have? (maybe there's a pecularity with your IDE controller or something) -- also, PATA or SATA?
[03:26] <gamui> just bored
[03:27] <blah561> ﻿I﻿n "Gene," a PHP IDE, I receive a permission denied for attempting to overwrite a file on the desktop?  Why is the permission denied?  I really dislike using the "nautilus," or whatever it is, as it does not looks like the theme I have applied, it looks rather ugly.
[03:27] <CaptainMorgan> probably=problems
[03:27] <shree_> people, what does "/bin/bash: no: command not found" mean???
[03:27] <garrett__> NeilDude: also, are you able to boot from a live cd and mount your disks?
[03:27] <Nostahl> blah561 got a screenshot of your theme?
[03:27] <Starnestommy> blah561: run "ls -l ~/Desktop" and make sure that everything there has the right permissions
[03:27] <Invisionfree> Starnestommy: I don't even get the chance to TRY and print anything else .. is there a command to print from the command line?
[03:27] <CaptainMorgan> shree_, is the executable on the PATH ?
[03:27] <gamui> h
[03:27] <unperson> Hi, I'm trying to play the demo for Rain-slick Precipice of Darkness on my hardy box but I'm having some trouble.  The game seems to work until I select "Play Demo" from the main menu.  It seems to begin to play a cut scene or something and then the screen just goes dark and stays that way. Anyone here gotten the game to work?
[03:27] <Starnestommy> shree_: "no" is onot a valid command
[03:27] <Starnestommy> *not
[03:27] <NeilDude> garrett__, i attempted "The GUI Way"  at this URL https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-ec3e41291c7a5a7b61d7827299415204067765de
[03:28] <garrett__> NeilDude: and if you have access to windows on that machine, have you tried using a SMART disagnostic tool, just to rule out any possible disk-failure issues?
[03:28] <gamui> people, i cant follow a thing
[03:28] <SeaPhor> shree_, check syntax
[03:28] <bazhang> gamui, then depart
[03:28] <gamui> so lets just have a simpler conversation
[03:28] <shree_> CaptainMorgan: SeaPhor
[03:28] <integrand> does starcraft/broodwar run on ubuntu?
[03:28] <garrett__> NeilDude: SMART's basically a diagnostic self-check in the firmware for your HD which will record some good stats on your disk
[03:28] <blah561> I just receieve a directory listing of the content on the Desktop.
[03:28] <Nostahl> integrand yes
[03:28] <garrett__> NeilDude: looking at that link
[03:28] <gamui> well thank you i feel much better
[03:28] <bazhang> gamui not here; chat elsewhere thanks
[03:28] <shree_> let me look again into the configure script
[03:28] <CaptainMorgan> shree_, what?
[03:28] <Invisionfree> Starnestommy?
[03:28] <integrand> battlenet no problem?
[03:28] <blah561> I have the file in a folder, is it possible to set the folder permitions to "777" or such?
[03:28] <Starnestommy> Invisionfree: I'm not sure how to print from the command line, but I am pretty sure that it can be done
[03:29] <NeilDude> garrett__I followed that step by step until I reached step... 10. it says, "install base system". if i attempt to proceed, I get an error
[03:29] <Nostahl> integrand that im not sure
[03:29] <integrand> hmm
[03:29] <bbyever> ﻿blah561: chmod 777 folder
[03:29] <blah561> thanks
[03:29] <Starnestommy> blah561: try this first: sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/Desktop
[03:29] <Nostahl> blah561 got a screenshot of your theme?
[03:29] <shree_> CaptainMorgan: I guess the configure script that I ran prior tothis might be having a problem. le tme look if I overlooked any error
[03:29] <gamui> ohhhhhhh, i just understood, iwas so dumb, bye bye, guys that somehow of what easily anoyed
[03:29] <blah561> One second, I'm going to see if the chmod was a success.
[03:30] <NeilDude> garrett__, I have not used SMART to rule out disk failure.  I don't need to. I have attempted to install Linux on 2 different harddrives.  I tried with version 7 and 6 of Ubuntu.  I ALWAYS get Error 17.
[03:30] <garrett__> NeilDude: what's your disk's partition layout look like?
[03:30] <gamui> ill get mack to my rct3
[03:30] <garrett__> NeilDude: huh
[03:30] <garrett__> NeilDude: are you trying to install around an existing windows partition?
[03:30] <garrett__> also, have you tried asking in #grub?
[03:30] <NeilDude> garrett__, I have an existing windows partition. I tried to install linux to another partition on another harddrive.
[03:31] <garrett__> i'm not an expert with grub, by any means
[03:31] <NeilDude> garrett__, no.
[03:31] <Acorn> my windows can wobble :D
[03:31] <theFATMAN> Neildude: why not install the latest versions?
[03:31] <bazhang> ah that is the problem then
[03:31] <Acorn> what do i need to install to be able to change the settings?
[03:31] <NeilDude> theFATMAN, latest version of what.
[03:31] <bazhang> !ccsm | Acorn
[03:31] <rabid> !mdadm
[03:31] <bbyever> ﻿blah561: type ls -la on a directory above the folder you chmod'ed
[03:31] <theFATMAN> neildude: and, do you have the appropriate disc for that systems architecture?
[03:31] <blah561> I have attempted the chmoding, and the "﻿sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/Desktop," but I still receive no success.
[03:31] <Invisionfree> Starnestommy: I don't even get the chance to TRY and print anything else .. is there a command to print from the command line?
[03:32] <blah561> bbyever:  Okay
[03:32] <blah561> I shall try.
[03:32] <Invisionfree> Starnestommy: I got the CLI printing (lpr <file>) but the freezing persists :(
[03:32] <theFATMAN> neildude: u said you were working w/ 6&7, go with 8.04 LTS
[03:32] <garrett__> NeilDude: ok.  does this error occur when you boot the machine?  or when you're trying to install grub?
[03:32] <thiamtech> help for the 3d desktop
[03:32] <blah561> So, I would use "home?"
[03:32] <danbhfive> blah561: you need to add a -R to that command
[03:32] <bbyever> ﻿blah561: yes
[03:32] <garrett__> NeilDude: silly question, diagnostic
[03:32] <bazhang> !compiz | thiamtech
[03:32] <Starnestommy> Invisionfree: it sounds like it could be a bad driver or misconfigured printer settings
[03:33] <zhutou> gfg
[03:33] <Invisionfree> Starnestommy: That would cause things to freeze?
[03:33] <achilles> hi gents & ladies
[03:33] <Starnestommy> Invisionfree: it would
[03:33] <blah561> So, what would the full function I would use?  I have a tad confussion.
[03:33] <Conscience_> hi!
[03:33] <garrett__> achilles: avast
[03:33] <XDS2010> hi
[03:33] <bbyever> ﻿blah561: ls -rla
[03:33] <Conscience_> there is anyone who can help me?
[03:33] <Invisionfree> Starnestommy: I beleive the driver is fine. How can I check the printer settings?
[03:33] <blah561> ls -rla directory?
[03:33] <garrett__> conscin: just ask away
[03:34] <garrett__> Conscience_: just ask
[03:34] <Starnestommy> Invisionfree: system > administration > print8ng
[03:34] <bbyever> ﻿blah561: no, just ls -rla
[03:34] <Starnestommy> *printing
[03:34] <Invisionfree> Starnestommy: What do I need to check?
[03:34] <bbyever> !who | ﻿blah561:
[03:34] <blah561> k
[03:34] <Starnestommy> Invisionfree: I'm not exactly sure what to check
[03:35] <Sarah> i have some problems, i think i might have accidently deleted something important because i was bcwipe'ing my old hdd which i plugged in, and i went out for a walk and when i got back the login box wouldnt come back up, and i couldnt login at a console, i kept getting an error about /lib/libncurses.so.5 too short, so i restarted and it gets the same error when it boots up... i dont know if i deleted something by accident or if something just broke
[03:35] <blah561> I receive a huge list of files and folders.
[03:35] <garrett__> blah561: also, most IRC clients will highlight text that's "directed" at them, so it's a bit easier to follow the conversation and reference earlier statements
[03:35] <NeilDude> garrett__I get error 17 when I'm attempting to boot.
[03:35] <chn_boy> hello all
[03:35] <Sarah> i figure maybe something in my old hdd because it was also a linux install, was linked to just /lib and so its deleted that or something...
[03:35] <Sarah> is there a way to fix it without a full reinstall
[03:35] <blah561> Ah, nice
[03:35] <dabbill> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14236/ any one help with my if_running code for my music? If i start my music player after conky is started it will only display Music and nothing after it.
[03:35] <chn_boy> what is the best editor for PHP script and how can I install it???
[03:35] <Fishscene> I tried to play a video and it completley locked my computer again. I restarted and now there are no Window borders. How do I get borders back?
[03:36] <bbyever> ﻿blah561: the first column of the folder you chmod'ed should be drwxrwxrwx
[03:36] <shree_> CaptainMorgan: Starnestommy: SeaPhor: I had missed out on a dependency when I ran configure script hence I got that error in Make
[03:36] <garrett__> NeilDude: have you seen this #
[03:36] <garrett__> #
[03:36] <garrett__> erp
[03:36] <achilles> has anybody dealt with "UDF-TOOLS" ? the-/ect/default/"script is a mess
[03:36] <chn_boy> what is the best editor for PHP script and how can I install it???
[03:36] <KuzNetSov> chn_boy: Quanta+ gives a good PHP support, and others like Kate support PHP synatax
[03:36] <Fishscene> ﻿How do I get borders back?
[03:36] <garrett__> NeilDude: have you seen this? http://www.3till7.net/2007/10/25/grub-error-17/
[03:37] <Invisionfree> Starnestommy: I believe it's configured right.
[03:37] <SeaPhor> shree_, so,, syntax/missing parameter?
[03:37] <rabid> had to reinstall ubuntu which is on a separate drive from my 4 disk raid5 configuration, however im concerned about my mdadm configuration for md0, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14239/
[03:37] <garrett__> chn_boy: i write most of my code in vim
[03:38] <garrett__> chn_boy: but eclipse w/ the php plugin is good
[03:38] <bbyever> ﻿blah561: so?
[03:38] <ThreeFingerPete> i'm having some trouble with gnome i guess. menus are coming up blank at first, and when i log in, it goes through the log in twice. is there something i can do to fix this?
[03:38] <NeilDude> garrett__, I have not seen that. reading
[03:38] <KuzNetSov> chn_boy: any editor can do PHP, some will understand and support PHP better than others
[03:38] <Invisionfree> Starnestommy: It still freezes after I turn the printer off ..
[03:38] <shree_> SeaPhor: Well, the configure script didnt find a dependency but it didnt fail either. So I overlooked it and when I went to the next stage, amke, I got the error
[03:38] <shree_> SeaPhor: make*
[03:38] <Starnestommy> Invisionfree: I'm sorry, I'm out of ideas
[03:38] <chn_boy> I need an editor to create any web document
[03:39] <blah561> I do not see my directory that I am writing to in ls -rla
[03:39] <chn_boy> so, what is the best???
[03:39] <garrett__> chn_boy: well, you can do that in anything and "best" is subjective
[03:39] <Painless> I quite like anjuta as an editor / ide
[03:39] <KuzNetSov> All web and php is actualy text documents, which is why any editor You Like is a good choice
[03:39] <SeaPhor> how would you check for dependencies in a given service?
[03:40] <stroyan> rabid:  You mean how /dev/md0 is listed twice, once using full /dev/sdb and once including /dev/sdb1.  I think you are right to be concerned.
[03:40] <tyler_2> anyone want to help me getting compiz and dual monitors playing nice?
[03:40] <seracht> anyone here use Linuxdcpp?
[03:40] <Invisionfree> Starnestommy: I don't even get the chance to TRY and print anything else Why?\
[03:40] <Invisionfree> Starnestommy: Oops, bad up arrow! :(
[03:40] <wease|> go with bluefish if youre so concerned
[03:40] <garrett__> chn_boy: you probably only really need syntax highlighting, automatic indention and maybe a class/function browser and name-completion
[03:40] <Invisionfree> Why does it freeze whenever I click Print in any program? Hardy, anyone help???
[03:40] <NeilDude> garrett__, for some reason, i feel like that's going to be a complete waste of time and not solve my problem.
[03:40] <KuzNetSov> chn_boy: Thats why
[03:40] <chn_boy> I want an editor like macromedia dreamweaver. So, what is your suggestion??
[03:40] <rabid> stroyan: /dev/md0 can be started with --examine --scan (starts on those for partitions) however i think i have some bad superblocks to repair
[03:40] <bbyever> ﻿blah561: if you did ls -la in /home/<you> the and you chmod'ed the Desktop folder, then the line thaat has Desktop at the end should start with drwxrwxrwx
[03:41] <garrett__> chn_boy: i like vim becuase i'm stuck in my ways, but eclipse is good, and so is ajunta, as was mentioned
[03:41] <rabid> four*
[03:41] <bbyever> ﻿blah561: use ls -la | grep Desktop
[03:41] <alex123> hey guys, is there a way to find out which mouse driver is in use? i.e., get a list of running drivers or something like that
[03:41] <wease|> bluefish, vim
[03:41] <garrett__> NeilDude: basically, just boot off a cd.  fdisk your disk and list the partitoin types
[03:41] <KuzNetSov> So you can try Eclipse, Quanta+ and Bluefish
[03:41] <garrett__> NeilDude: if it's not type 83, that's your problem.  should only take 3minutes to do
[03:41]  * khin heard Hardy Heron is buggy. khin is not upgrading until July.
[03:41] <NeilDude> garrett__, okay i will download a live cd somewhere :X
[03:42] <Sarah> can i just install ubuntu again, then move over /lib into my old install
[03:42] <garrett__> NeilDude: or you could boot off a floppy
[03:42] <garrett__> NeilDude: basically, all you need is a way to boot
[03:42] <garrett__> NeilDude: there might be a windows utility that'll do that
[03:42] <chn_boy> Oj..
[03:42] <blah561> bbyever: I receive "^[[6~drwxr-xr-x  7 blah569 blah569     4096 2008-05-23 21:54 Desktop"
[03:42] <chn_boy> Ok....
[03:42] <Ahadiel> Sarah, I wouldn't recommend it.
[03:42] <chn_boy> thanks for help
[03:42] <D3javu> eh, what is default root password?
[03:42] <garrett__> NeilDude: all you need to do is determine what the partition type is
[03:42] <Starnestommy> D3javu: there isn't one
[03:42] <Sarah> Ahadiel, is there another way to fix it do you think
[03:42] <Ahadiel> D3javu, If you want you can set it, sudo passwd
[03:42] <NeilDude> garrett__, which one should i get?
[03:43] <NeilDude> garrett__, ftp://ftp.oss.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/damnsmall/current
[03:43] <bbyever> ﻿blah561: ok so now use sudo chmod 777 -R Desktop
[03:43] <garrett__> NeilDude: i dunno--you can use ANY linux boot cd
[03:43] <Ahadiel> Sarah, I haven't even heard your problem >_>
[03:43] <Traveler2> hi folks, i've followed a tutorial to backup my box to another box by gzip-ing everything in my root, then copying it accross and unzipping, this has worked ok but now on boot I get "waiting for root filesystem"   can this be repaired?
[03:43] <rabid> stroyan: any idea what i need to do for the 4 devices one to be the only raid5 config
[03:43] <Starnestommy> D3javu: just use sudo; there's no need to use the root account directly
[03:43] <garrett__> NeilDude: checking that link
[03:43] <Sarah> Ahadiel, oh ok
[03:43] <tritium> D3javu: ubuntu disables teh root account by default for security.
[03:43] <tritium> the*
[03:43] <bbyever> ﻿blah561: though those permission should be good, why are you changing them?
[03:43] <wease|> hahaha
[03:43] <DIL> knoppix is good
[03:44] <wease|> bandits are out like crazy tonight
[03:44] <Painless> bandits? lol
[03:44] <blah561> I still receieve that error (I exited the application and repopened the application, by the way.)
[03:44] <D3javu> I'm trying to access administration tools but it asking for password and it doesnt work without a password. any solution?
[03:44] <DIL> bandits??
[03:44] <bbyever> ﻿blah561: what error, what application?
[03:44] <blah561> I can not overwrite a file in my php editor.
[03:44] <blah561> Gene.
[03:44] <Starnestommy> D3javu: use your user's password
[03:44] <tritium> D3javu: your user password
[03:45] <blah561> If someone can recommend a good "IDE," I just enjoy syntax highlighting + indention.
[03:45] <garrett__> NeilDude: dsl-4.2.5.iso
[03:45] <tritium> D3javu: the first user gets sudo priveleges
[03:45] <Starnestommy> blah561: what about "ls -l ~/Desktop" ?
[03:45] <Painless> blah561: anjuta is a nice lightweight ide
[03:45] <stroyan> rabid:  I would guess that front of the /dev/sdb is somehow marked as an md.  But I don't know how you would clear that, except _very carefully_.
[03:45] <chn_boy> Can KDE application be installed to GNOME???
[03:45] <Starnestommy> chn_boy: yes
[03:45] <bazhang> chn_boy, aye
[03:45] <catandfear> how do I update the drives for my graphics card.  I have downloaded the drivers but don't know how to update them since they are restricted
[03:45] <garrett__> blah561: vim :)
[03:45] <robdig> blah561: vim
[03:45] <KuzNetSov> blah561: If you cant write to the file the chances are its a file permissions issue
[03:45] <wladston> garrett__: just followed one more guide to enable xinerama and got the same results - a weird green pattern on the screen, and them Ubuntu starting with cloned screens on low resolution mode ....
[03:45] <NeilDude> garrett__, thanks
[03:45] <chn_boy> all of them???
[03:45] <bazhang> chn_boy, aye
[03:45] <D3javu> Thanks :)
[03:45] <rabid> stroyan: there's always failing the device and rebuilding but i'd rather not go thru that
[03:45] <Invisionfree> Why does it freeze whenever I click Print in any program? Hardy, anyone help???
[03:45] <Painless> 'vim' always makes me think of a bathroom cleaner
[03:45] <garrett__> wladston: what sort of video card?
[03:45] <khin> I don't really see much point in an IDE, at least for the size projects I usually work on (small)
[03:45] <catandfear> ati
[03:45] <wladston> intel 945GM
[03:45] <Fazayro> hello
[03:46] <garrett__> wladston: i had that same problem with my geforce 440go
[03:46] <catandfear> its on a laptop
[03:46] <garrett__> wladston: due to my LCD reporting goofy modelines for my laptop
[03:46] <blah561> Starnestommy: I receive several folders, but this is what I see for the folder I wish to overwrite a file into.  "drwxrwxrwx 2 blah569 blah569 4096 2008-05-23 22:14 blahport"
[03:46] <garrett__> wladston: what model?
[03:46] <Fazayro> Have you installed the Nvidia drivers through envy?
[03:46] <Nostahl> hi all what stuff do i need to save so i can get wifi working on this laptop right off the bat when i reinstall ubuntu
[03:46] <khin> Well not completely true, I use Eclipse for Java, but... its just by habit
[03:46] <chn_boy> Is install procedure same with the installation in GNOME???
[03:46] <wladston> garrett__: my lcd is an LG flattron 17"
[03:46] <Fazayro> I had lines going down my screen
[03:46] <Starnestommy> chn_boy: yes
[03:46] <Fazayro> install the Nvidia drivers
[03:46] <chn_boy> ok
[03:46] <eugman> Which has better support, ubuntu with ntfs or windows with ext3?
[03:46] <Starnestommy> blah561: what about ls -l ~/Desktop/blahport ?
[03:46] <catandfear> hmm, I'm new to linux.  how do i check?
[03:47] <Starnestommy> eugman: ubuntu + ntfs
[03:47] <wease|> chn_boy. it is all across the board the same
[03:47] <Invisionfree> Why does it freeze whenever I click Print in any program? Hardy, anyone help???
[03:47] <eugman> Starnestommy, thanks
[03:47] <garrett__> wladston: nvidia or ati card?
[03:47] <chn_boy> weasel: what do you mean???
[03:47] <garrett__> NeilDude: no problem
[03:47] <blah561> Starnestommy: I receive "-rwxrwxrwx 1 blah569 blah569 6315 2008-05-23 18:53 index.php"
[03:47] <wladston> garrett__: this is what shows on lspci :  Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME
[03:48] <wladston> garrett__: Intel ...
[03:48] <rabid> Invisionfree: freeze how like have to hard reset, can you check your logs?
[03:48] <d4t4min3r> im having a issue... my sound is messed up, when i play something the sound is real low and distorted sounding but if i jiggle the sound button next to the date up top right, then it sounds right
[03:48] <d4t4min3r> anyone seen this before
[03:49] <stroyan> rabid:  I suspect that "mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sdb"  could clear the /dev/sdb md superblock and leave /dev/sdb1 undisturbed.
[03:49] <wease|> chn_boy...same platform....same everything...different desktop manager...you can add anything to the platform kde, gnome, enlightenment, etc
[03:49] <joe_chat> d4t4min3: do u use alsa and what soundcard
[03:49] <blah561> Starnestommy:  Did you receive my message?  I am just wondering, as this is an active IRC channel.
[03:49] <garrett__> wladston: did you see this? http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html
[03:49] <d4t4min3r> joe_chat: alsa?
[03:49]  * wladston takes a look
[03:50] <chn_boy> I have an internet modem and it is used a AT command. But, when I type in shell: "AT!BAND?", it does'nt work. What is the problem??
[03:50] <Starnestommy> blah561: I did.  The permissions look fine, but something very odd is happening
[03:50] <blah561> What is the odd instance?
[03:50] <joe_chat> system/preferences/sound
[03:50] <wease|> who here has a beer in hand?
[03:50] <garrett__> wladston: and i feel for you.  setting up dualhead can be a pain in the ass
[03:50] <bazhang> wease|, offtopic
[03:50] <catandfear> that sounds good weasel
[03:50] <yotsuba_> hello. I've just accidentally installed flash player 9 by running ./flashplayer-installer, and I found out that I need to get rid of that in favor of flash player 10. Can anyone tell me how I can get rid of the flash-player 9 stuff?
[03:50] <joe_chat> what does it say for sound playback
[03:50] <wease|> haha
[03:51] <Painless> wease|: I have a coffee, does that count?
[03:51] <wease|> i got called offtopic for that
[03:51] <wease|> coffee?
[03:51] <d4t4min3r> joe_chat: yeah says alsa
[03:51]  * garrett__ raises his beer.
[03:51] <wease|> where are you?
[03:51] <blah561> I enjoy carbonated beverages.
[03:51] <joe_chat> d4t4min3: alsa - advanced linux sound arcehtecture
[03:51] <Painless> wease|: I'm at work... can't drink a beer
[03:51] <bazhang> wease|, take chit chat elsewhere thanks
[03:51] <Simonft> !offtopic
[03:51] <wease|> haha
[03:51] <joe_chat> load a terminal and type alsamixer
[03:51] <wease|> bazhang, i am kewl here unless you wish to kick me
[03:52] <wease|> painless, sucks to be you
[03:52] <catandfear> so how can I find out what type of ati card I have?  is there a type of add/remove hardware i can check?
[03:52] <Painless> aye
[03:52] <d4t4min3r> joe_chat: ok im there
[03:52] <bazhang> wease|, chat elsewhere
[03:52] <blah561> Starnestommy: Anyway, Starnestommy, what is the odd instance?
[03:52] <garrett__> catandfear: type "lspci"
[03:52] <joe_chat> what do u see
[03:52] <tmapj> hello
[03:52] <Simonft> !hi | tmapj
[03:52] <Starnestommy> blah561: the permission denied error
[03:52] <wease|> bazhang, why cant i chat here with fellow ubuntu users and help them at the same time?
[03:52] <d4t4min3r> joe_chat: a app for sound... card intel ich5, and sound levels
[03:53] <wladston> garrett__: thanks, going to try it ... will report results later!
[03:53] <blah561> Maybe I should try a different application, like the text editor, and see if I still receieve permission denied?
[03:53] <tritium> wease|: because the channel is too busy for that, and you've been warned
[03:53] <tmapj> can anyone tell me how to enable the tun module?
[03:53] <garrett__> wease|: think of it as fire retardation :P
[03:53] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic for chat wease|
[03:53] <Simonft> wease|: ther is too much going on at the same time
[03:53] <joe_chat> are sound levels set right you tab through and hit 7 for 70% m will toggle mute
[03:53] <wease|> wow
[03:53] <bbyever> ﻿blah561: that would be a good idea
[03:53] <d4t4min3r> joe_chat: master s is set to zero
[03:53] <d4t4min3r> is that right?
[03:53] <wease|> i keep up just fine. whats wrong with you folks?
[03:54] <rabid> stroyan: that did the trick, i can only start the device with --assemble, i would like to have it start with mdadm mdadm.conf i current have that correct ARRAY line in my conf, but i get Devicedisappeared events on mdadm restart
[03:54] <stroyan> catandfear:  You could open a terminal and use    lspci   at the shell prompt.
[03:54] <Acorn> what's the best irc client for linux?
[03:54] <joe_chat> tab through and hit 70 at that bar
[03:54] <tritium> !best | Acorn
[03:54] <garrett__> Acorn: there's no "best"
[03:54] <Simonft> wease|: just stop or someone will have you kicked.
[03:54] <Acorn> hehe
[03:54] <wease|> bah
[03:54] <garrett__> Acorn: i use BitchX, because I run ssh from a colo'd box through screen
[03:54] <wease|> kick me
[03:54] <joe_chat> i forgot how u save alsa mixer settings but it should come back at boot
[03:54] <bazhang> wease|, you have been asked numerous times
[03:55] <joe_chat> google search
[03:55] <Simonft> thanks
[03:55] <garrett__> Acorn: and i prefer console-based irc stuff for reasons i can't explain
[03:55] <Starnestommy> Acorn: I like xchat, irssi, conspire, and telnet, although conspire isn't in the repos and telnet is very minimalist
[03:55] <d4t4min3r> joe_chat: how do i exit it and save
[03:55] <blah561> TextEditor can save to the file, so I am assuming that it is a fault with Gene?
[03:55] <Starnestommy> Acorn: irssi is very scriptable but console-based
[03:55] <bbyever> ﻿blah561: yes
[03:55] <stroyan> rabid:  Is it possible that you are changing mdadm.conf but rebooting with an initrd that doesn't have that change?
[03:55] <blah561> I'm going to try Anjuta.
[03:55] <blah561> Thanks for the assistance.
[03:55] <bbyever> ﻿blah561: np
[03:55] <garrett__> blah561: cheers
[03:56] <blah561> Wait --- Does anyone have a favorite php editor?  I just enjoy syntax highlighting, and indention.
[03:56] <Acorn> hmm, might try xchat and bitchx
[03:56] <garrett__> blah561: i use vim
[03:56] <Lagbolt> anyone using an HP mininote?
[03:56] <joe_chat> it saves right away hit esc
[03:56] <garrett__> blah561: syntax highlighting, auto indention, code-folding, paren/brace/bracket matching
[03:56] <d4t4min3r> ok its still doing it
[03:56] <Simonft> !anyone | Lagbolt
[03:56] <rabid> stroyan: no but its possible that i have a typo in my conf! I think that did it thanks for your help
[03:56] <catandfear> ok guys, i have a ati laptop graphics card.  how can i update the drivers?
[03:56] <KuzNetSov> Hey Acorn: are you ARM ed ?
[03:56] <yotsuba_> it seems that I'm having sound issues after installing adobe flash 9
[03:56] <blah561> garrett_: Nice, I'll take a look at it.  Thanks.
[03:56] <garrett__> blah561: it's already installed on your system ;P
[03:56] <d4t4min3r> joe_chat: like its playing now, its very low and i cant hear any words but if i jiggle the sound level it will be ok
[03:57] <blah561> Oh :P
[03:57] <garrett__> blah561: just type "vim" at the command line
[03:57] <garrett__> blah561: hit 'i' to type stuff
[03:57] <Lagbolt> Simonft, i am not asking in the sense that i have a general problem, i want to know if anyone has one and can talk to me about it and there sucess
[03:57] <blah561> oh, nice.
[03:57] <Lagbolt> not if anyone can solve a problem maybe not having one
[03:57] <Lagbolt> :)
[03:57] <Simonft> Lagbolt: google the printer name then hardy.
[03:57] <garrett__> blah561: when you want to save and quit, hit 'esc' then ':wq"
[03:57] <blah561> okay, thanks.
[03:57] <garrett__> blah561: learning curve's a bit steep, but it becomes second nature after like 20minutes or so
[03:57] <lukifer_etyrnal> gah!  dell poweredge 2300 will not boot after successfull-looking 8.04 server install
[03:57] <bazhang> Lagbolt, best search the forums then; this is realtime support
[03:57] <d4t4min3r> joe_chat: i have to jiggle it all the way to the 100 percent and then back down
[03:57] <d4t4min3r> then it works
[03:58] <Lagbolt> printer?
[03:58] <Lagbolt> Simonft, do you even know what a mininote is?
[03:58] <blah561> Thanks, I'm going to leave this IRC channel, but I shall return if I require more assistance.
[03:58] <joe_chat> d4t4min3: /sbin/alsactl
[03:58] <bazhang> Lagbolt, a computer
[03:58] <Lagbolt> i am curious about the laptop <-- not a printer
[03:58] <joe_chat>  that saves setting perm
[03:58] <Simonft> Lagbolt: sorry, misread it
[03:58] <Lagbolt> :)
[03:58] <garrett__> blah: word
[03:58] <joe_chat> get the setting where u want and hit esc
[03:58] <bazhang> Lagbolt, ubuntuforums; here is for realtime support
[03:58] <garrett__> oh
[03:58] <joe_chat> maybe twice
[03:59] <Acorn> how do you move a window to another workspace?
[03:59] <kindofabuzz> drag it
[03:59] <garrett__> Acorn: drag it
[03:59] <\3TATUK> right click the titlebar
[03:59] <Simonft> Lagbolt: http://www.liliputing.com/2008/05/minbuntu-ubuntu-804-custom-built-for-hp.html
[03:59] <kindofabuzz> or right click title bar and move to another workspace
[03:59] <Acorn> that doesn't work, and neither does right clickering and doing move to workspace
[03:59] <seracht> anyone use dc++?
[03:59] <Lagbolt> Simonft, thanks.
[03:59] <kindofabuzz> you must only have one workspace
[03:59] <Acorn> could it have been something i changed in compiz?
[03:59] <Simonft> Lagbolt: your welcome
[04:00] <d4t4min3r> nothing.. my sound is still messed up
[04:00] <Lagbolt> bazhang, no need to be like that.  but now i understand why ubuntu chan people flee to #debian and ask their questions in there
[04:00] <d4t4min3r> i have to jiggle it to 100 percent on teh sound icon top right then back down and it will sound right
[04:00] <bbyever> ﻿ Acorn: right click on the window bar and then Move to another workspace
[04:00] <joe_chat> d4t4min3: in console try man and command ie man alsactl or man alsamixer this loads the linux man pages
[04:01] <NeilDude> garrett__, I just attempted to boot DSL and get this.  it says "scanning for USB Devices... done" followed by, "an't find knoppix filesystem, sorry. dropping you to a very limited shell. and then when i attempt to type something, it doesn't work. apparently DSL doesn't recognize my VERY SIMPLE USB KEYBOARD.
[04:01] <joe_chat> sorry i use console im a long time former slackware user
[04:01] <NeilDude> so here's what i have to say to linux. FUCK it and FUCK you all
[04:01] <garrett__> what an ass.
[04:01] <joe_chat> boot Neil please
[04:01] <bazhang> he quit
[04:01] <KuzNetSov> Ah USB kbd
[04:01] <Starnestommy> joe_chat: he left on his own
[04:01] <joe_chat> good
[04:01] <theFATMAN> ban him
[04:02] <d4t4min3r> so what am i supposed to do
[04:02] <Acorn> bbyever: doens't work
[04:02] <Acorn> the window just stays where it is
[04:02] <garrett__> guess he didn't like free support from people helping in their spare time
[04:02] <catandfear> is anyone here good with restriced driver stuff?
[04:02] <Simonft> !anyone | catandfear
[04:02] <garrett__> oh well, i'm sure EEBKAC
[04:02] <joe_chat> d4t4min3: youre done it should fix the next time u reboot
[04:02] <garrett__> er
[04:02] <JoaoJoao_> owdy
[04:02] <JoaoJoao_> howdy
[04:02] <garrett__> EEBKAU
[04:02] <tritium> JoaoJoao_: doody
[04:02] <Simonft> !hi | JoaoJoao_
[04:03] <d4t4min3r> joe_chat: all i did was do man alsamixer
[04:03] <theFATMAN> catandfear: in what capacity?
[04:03] <d4t4min3r> i didnt change any settings
[04:03] <d4t4min3r> it was just like a manual for the alsamixer
[04:03] <wladston> garrett__: well, tried again, and it didn't work on the dynamic setup ... I'll just stop bothering, archive my LCD monitor for another six months and hope that on the next release, Ubuntu will support my scrren .... :( thanks for the help ...
[04:03] <joe_chat> im giving u a reference so u can leaarn on you own
[04:03] <catandfear> I have an ati card in my laptop that ubuntu says the drivers need updated
[04:03] <d4t4min3r> joe_chat: so what did i do that will fix my problem
[04:04] <catandfear> but just pops the restricted drivers page up and won't let me do much else
[04:04] <joe_chat> catandfear: i just didthat
[04:04] <tritium> joe_chat: why just "u"?  Be fair to all the letters in the alphabet.
[04:04] <JoaoJoao_> So, I installed flashplugin-nonfree 10.0.1.218ubuntu1 , but websites with Flash still crash Firefox constantly
[04:04] <theFATMAN> catandfear: just a sec
[04:04] <garrett__> wladston: sorry we couldn't get it going.  i'm sure it DOES work, as some googleness has showed positive reports, but i only know about pecularities in nvidia hardware
[04:04] <garrett__> wladston: i'd say ask again tomorrow or something
[04:04] <garrett__> wladston: someone might know then
[04:04] <joe_chat> d4t4min3: by setting volume an =nd saving setting thats all u have to do
[04:04] <wladston> garrett__: I've been trying to get it working for about 10 months
[04:04] <garrett__> wladston: or post on the forums
[04:04] <garrett__> wladston: WHOA
[04:04] <catandfear> joe_chat: sorry, I am trying to do a few things at once.
[04:04] <JoaoJoao_> Is there anything else to make Flash stop crashing Firefox?
[04:05] <joe_chat> abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
[04:05] <garrett__> wladston: dualhead stuff could be a bit more intuitive :(
[04:05] <digitalvectorz> yay, now we know our abc's...
[04:05] <digitalvectorz> next time won't you type with me
[04:05] <wladston> garrett__: I already posted on the foruns, reported bug, voted on brainstorm, asked on launchpad ...
[04:05] <garrett__> wladston: can't ask for anything more than that
[04:05] <garrett__> wladston: hm
[04:05] <theFATMAN> catandfear: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[04:05] <joe_chat> catandfear: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide
[04:05] <tritium> digitalvectorz: yet so many can't spell
[04:05] <garrett__> wladston: sorry, man
[04:05] <digitalvectorz> tritium, so true.
[04:06] <wladston> garrett__: I wish I could pay some bucks to at least help someone to solve this issue
[04:06] <JoaoJoao_> Maybe disabling PulseAudio
[04:06] <wladston> hopefully they'll implement bounties on ubuntu soon
[04:06] <garrett__> wladston: just an offhand guess, but have you unloaded all the modules and made sure that you're not specifying a goofy modeline?
[04:06] <yotsuba_> JoaoJoao_: I've been through the same dilema. It seems that you have to uninstall the free plugin and lib and install flash 10 beta
[04:06] <joe_chat> catandfear: worked for me and now glxgears shows 6800fps
[04:06] <garrett__> wladston: or hit ctrl+alt+(numpad + or numbad -)
[04:06] <garrett__> wladston: to toggle resolutions?
[04:06] <garrett__> wladston: maybe the default modeline isn't supported
[04:06] <DaNmarner> Any body has a idea about how to get into the python channel?
[04:06] <tritium> wladston: there have been bounties already
[04:07] <d4t4min3r> joe_chat: when i move my volume now it doesnt effect well ... the volume
[04:07] <JoaoJoao_> yotsuba_: I already got the flashplugin-nonfree 10 version installed
[04:07] <wladston> garrett__: well, that's beyond the stuff I know ... I have a clean instalation of Ubuntu ...
[04:07] <d4t4min3r> it doesnt go up or down
[04:07] <d4t4min3r> just stays the same
[04:07] <joe_chat> it does on mine
[04:07] <yotsuba_> Ah, then you're in the same dilemma as myself.
[04:07] <garrett__> wladston: try starting X and then hitting ctrl+alt+(numpad + or numbad -)
[04:07] <yotsuba_> I can't seem to get any system audio working now.
[04:07] <garrett__> wladston: who knows, maybe it'll work
[04:07] <JoaoJoao_> audio works fine
[04:07] <joe_chat> please hold
[04:07] <yotsuba_> It tells me the device is already busy
[04:07] <wladston> garrett__: tryed the numpad shortcut, nothing happened..
[04:08] <garrett__> wladston: hmmm
[04:08] <harpreet_> hello
[04:08] <Fishscene> yotsuba_: Have you tried sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[04:08] <wladston> garrett__: will try
[04:08] <JoaoJoao_> but e.g. if I'm watching a video on Youtube and try to watch another one, Firefox crashes
[04:08] <JoaoJoao_> Would disabling PulseAudio have any side effects?
[04:08] <garrett__> wlad: on my keyboard (laptop) that's ctrl+alt+fn+;
[04:08] <d4t4min3r> yotsuba_: it seemed at first the sound wouldnt play unless i jiggled the volume all the way up then back down.. then i changed the settings in the prefrenced and moved the volume up and now the volume in the icon doenst work.. it doesnt effect the sound
[04:09] <JoaoJoao_> PulseAudio seems to be a major PITA
[04:09] <d4t4min3r> yotsuba_: so my sound it just really really loud now
[04:09] <JoaoJoao_> at least until it stabilizes
[04:09] <wladston> garrett__: weird ... it cloned my screen for the login window ... but after login, it shut down the second screen ...
[04:10] <d4t4min3r> wait there it goes agin.. no sound
[04:10] <achilles> has anyone used "UDF-TOOLS" for old RW-CD
[04:10] <vanessa> I cannot for the life of me find a linux app to rip a DVD to my desktop. I don't want to encode it or anything. I want the straight video_ts file etc
[04:10] <wladston> garrett__: I can get it working pretty with the correct resolutions, but just on the clone mode
[04:10] <yotsuba_> Fishscene: tried that, no change.
[04:10] <d4t4min3r> i can hear it very distorted but i cant hear any words
[04:10] <vanessa> can anyone help?
[04:10] <d4t4min3r> yotsuba_: did you get it fixed
[04:10] <garrett__> wladston: huh. that might be a good thing
[04:10] <garrett__> wladston: i don't have dualhead at my disposal at the moment, unfortuantely, so i can't help out too much
[04:10] <bbyever> ﻿vanessa: put the dvd in, open in in nautilus, copy the contents, paste wherever you want
[04:10] <Fishscene> Vanessa, have you tried VLC?
[04:11] <yotsuba_> says this: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback. Device is being used by another application.
[04:11] <vanessa> nautilus you say
[04:11] <garrett__> wladston: does your laptop have a function key to toggle between your built-in display and the vga/dvi out?
[04:11] <yotsuba_> this is when I try to test it in the "sounds" preferences
[04:11] <wladston> garrett__: sure man ... well, let's give it another 6 months :) untill then, my brother will be superhappy to have an extra monitor to work on his windows box :)
[04:11] <Dr_willis> vanessa,  i just normally dd the cd/dvd to an iso file. :)  you can just mount the cd/dvd and copy the files over. done that befor also.
[04:11] <j1solutions> whole ah
[04:11] <vanessa> I didn't realize VLC copied DVDs
[04:11] <garrett__> wladston: haha, cheers.  silver lining and all that :"P
[04:12] <wladston> ;)
[04:12] <vanessa> this DVD has special sony copy protection
[04:12] <yotsuba_> d4t4min3r: no, I did not get it fixed yet
[04:12] <Fishscene> VLC can re-encode tons of things. Although it might be a little slow
[04:12] <vanessa> I doubt a dd will work
[04:12] <Fishscene> oh the Sony Balogna
[04:12] <vanessa> 007 Casino royale
[04:12] <garrett__> the sarpie-marker-defeated sony copy protection?
[04:13] <vanessa> uh maybe
[04:13] <Dr_willis> vanessa,  i just used dd on about 5 dvd's befor. :) it does keep the encryption - which is  one big reason to use somthing like k9copy
[04:13] <rickyfingers_> garrett__: care to elaborate?
[04:13] <bazhang> maybe rkhunter can do it
[04:14] <garrett__> rickyfingers_: some of the sony copy protection crap can be defeated by painting out a ring on the disc with a felt-dip (cleans off with water -- so actually, don't use a sharpie) pen
[04:14] <garrett__> rickyfingers_: google it
[04:14] <D3javu> in which directory the apt-get's server list located?
[04:14] <vanessa> k9copy seems to be what I want
[04:14] <JoaoJoao_> hmmm killing pulseaudio made Firefox stop crashing, at least for a while
[04:14] <xzhou> hello
[04:15] <vanessa> /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:15] <rickyfingers_> garrett__: kewl thanks
[04:15] <Simonft> what is an open source iso mounter?
[04:15] <tritium> Simonft: mount
[04:15] <matthew> how can I get firefox 3 rc1? Cause the file they give me is some odd library thing
[04:15] <garrett__> Simonft: mount ./file.iso /where/you/want/to/mount/it -t iso9660
[04:15] <garrett__> simplexio: er, sorry
[04:15] <Simonft> ok, thanks
[04:15] <rickyfingers_> Simonft: just use mount
[04:15] <garrett__> Simonft: er
[04:15] <^Tech-Help^> Whats that grep command that searches for a word, if the word is in the terminal?
[04:15] <garrett__> Simonft: mount ./fileiso ./dir -o loop
[04:15] <yotsuba_> sigh. I guess I'll try restarting.. give it the ol' windows-style try
[04:15] <Simonft> thanks
[04:16] <garrett__> Simonft: np
[04:16] <matthew> nvm
[04:16] <garrett__> Simonft: if it complains, add -t 9660; probably won't, though
[04:16] <Simonft> ok
[04:16] <garrett__> simplexio: er, -t iso9660
[04:16] <Fishscene> Tech, grep | (word)
[04:16] <^Tech-Help^> Fishscene thanks
[04:17] <Wangberg> does anyone know if you can backup or save pidgin user logs ?
[04:17] <Fishscene> NP
[04:17] <garrett__> Wangberg: pidgin has native support for conversation logs, no?
[04:17] <achilles> UDF-TOOLS ! Does this ring any bell to anyone ? adaptec? Roxio? now Ubuntu
[04:17] <garrett__> Wangberg: or do you mean once it's logged, some way to automatically back it up?
[04:17] <Wangberg> well, i'm installing a new distro
[04:18] <Wangberg> but i just wanted to back them up and keep them for records
[04:18] <achilles> get 30 plugins for Pidgin you get it ALL
[04:18] <garrett__> Wangberg: just upload them somewhere
[04:18] <Wangberg> garrett: how ?
[04:18] <kindofabuzz> repos
[04:19] <cypha> what do i do if my sounds have stopped?
[04:19] <garrett__> Wangberg: well, you could, for example, make a .tar file of them or a .zip or whatever and upload them to divshare?
[04:19] <garrett__> Wangberg: or you could burn them to cd?
[04:19] <cypha> besides restart
[04:19] <Wangberg> i can't access them in that format
[04:19] <Wangberg> i would have to go throuh and copy/paste text
[04:19] <achilles> GO TO SYNAPTICS and you see a lot of extras for Pidgin
[04:19] <Wangberg> i don't want to do that
[04:19] <garrett__> Wangberg: uh... what?
[04:19] <Wangberg> i can't just save them or zip them up....
[04:19] <garrett__> Wangberg: your logs are stored as text files
[04:19] <Wangberg> WHERE?
[04:20] <garrett__> Wangberg: wait.. what?
[04:20] <marsdtn> adsf
[04:20] <marsdtn> saf
[04:20] <marsdtn> saf
[04:20] <FloodBot3> marsdtn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:20] <marathe25> how do I tell what partition my /home is mounted on?
[04:20] <garrett__> Wangberg: they're not logged anywhere if you aven't enabled logging
[04:20] <Wangberg> where are the pidgin user log files stored ?
[04:20] <Wangberg> oh my god
[04:20] <Wangberg> this is why i hate ubuntu
[04:20] <Wangberg> you people are fucking retarded
[04:20] <garrett__> Wangberg: no, this is why you ate yourself
[04:20] <Starnestommy> Wangberg: ~/.purple/
[04:20] <garrett__> Wangberg: check your homedir
[04:20] <Fishscene> !patience | Wangberg
[04:20] <bazhang> language Wangberg
[04:21] <Wangberg> my apologies
[04:21] <Wangberg> thank you
[04:21] <marathe25> how do I tell what partition my /home is mounted on?
[04:21] <garrett__> Wangberg: look in your ~/.purple directory.  find what you want.  make an archive of it.  upload tat somewhere.
[04:21] <garrett__> marathe25: type "mount"
[04:21] <Acorn> wow, i can't believe how patient you guys are here
[04:22] <marathe25> garrett: thanks
[04:22] <garrett__> Acorn: we must have done something horrible in a past life.
[04:22] <Fishscene> LOL
[04:22] <[azrael]> hello, can someone tell me the command for the sticky notes applet
[04:22] <Starnestommy> [azrael]: tomboy
[04:23] <yotsuba_> well.. that actually worked..
[04:23] <garrett__> Wangberg: and just as a heads up, think through what you ask a little bit.  like, imagine you were writing a quick email to someone and you wanted to give tem all the facts so they could work from that
[04:23] <garrett__> Wangberg: it helps prevent miscommuncations and frustration
[04:23] <marathe25> So I recently moved my /home folder to a new partition, where it currently shows as being mounted. I never deleted my old /home folder. Is it still around somewhere?
[04:23] <[azrael]> no i mean the other one, the GNOME_StickyNotesApplet
[04:23] <theFATMAN> UBUNTU ROCKS!!!!!
[04:23] <yotsuba_> I'm sure there was another way I could have fixed it, but the good-old windows way of doing things solved the problem
[04:24] <garrett__> Wangberg: "where does gaim store log files" would have been a better question
[04:24] <garrett__> er--pidgin
[04:24] <GLessam> Anyone know of a patient and/or drug management software for a NGO?
[04:24] <tritium> garrett__: ~/.purple
[04:24] <garrett__> although, now that i think about it, there's no real intutive way to figure out where that's stored.
[04:24] <garrett__> tritium: yeah i know.
[04:24] <garrett__> tritium: i'm just reflecting on a previous question
[04:24] <[azrael]> Starnestommy: no i mean the other one, the GNOME_StickyNotesApplet
[04:25] <tritium> garrett__: ok
[04:25] <legend2440> [azrael]: right click panel>add to panel>sticky notes
[04:25] <garrett__> tritium: thank you, though :)
[04:25] <diddl> @pidgins log location: It only becomes intuitive if one knows that the underlying lib is known as libpurple :D
[04:25] <matthew> can someone help me install firefox 3 rc1? Cause it keeps opening the old version, and when I run the binary itself, it says it can't find a shared library, even though the lib it asks for is in the same folder
[04:25] <[azrael]> legend2440: the thing is i want it as desktop shortcut
[04:25] <lukifer_etyrnal> how is it, that after apparently successfully completing a i386 8.04 Server install that SAW, and PARTITIONED, and INSTALLED to a 6-drive RAID, when i reboot from the installer, the systen doesn't come up... ??
[04:25] <achilles> i have my Ubuntu on 8 partitions, works like a charm
[04:26] <CapaH> How do I turn a video inside out?
[04:26] <Starnestommy> [azrael]: I'm not sure if there's a command for it
[04:26] <lukifer_etyrnal> how how how ?
[04:26] <garrett__> diddl: and it's a catch-22, because people who know what libpurple is probably aren't going to be searching for their logfiles.
[04:26] <CapaH> err.. upside down :)
[04:26] <[azrael]> legend2440: therefore i have to create a starter which includes the command
[04:26] <marathe25> Is there any tool to run a comparison between two folders and see if their contents are identical?
[04:26] <martman> whats the real name of the login window settings tool? the app will never start and never displays, fails silently. i want to run it from the console
[04:26] <[1]Rafa> how can i unistall ubuntu wiout messing up my boot?
[04:26] <garrett__> CapaH: you might get a better response if you let people know what software you're using :P
[04:26] <[azrael]> legend2440: also i cannot find it in /usr/bin
[04:26] <diddl> garret: Lol, yeah indeed :D they should rename it to .pidgin in their next release :)
[04:26] <black9ice> I know there is a way but I cany figure it out, how can I view the kernel boot up messages to see
[04:27] <CapaH> I have an mp4 video that was recorded upside down. I am trying to convert it into an mp4 that is right side up :)
[04:27] <Starnestommy> martman: gksudo gdmsetup
[04:27] <black9ice> after I have booted
[04:27] <CapaH> I dont mind which software is used :)
[04:27] <garrett__> diddl: that'd make sense, wouldn't it ;P
[04:27] <cypha> what can i do if my sound has stopped working?
[04:27] <garrett__> CapaH: mencoder might do something like that
[04:27] <cypha> how can i restart it?
[04:27] <Templarian> This seems like a good place to ask instead of my normal irc... i'm making a 3d game in flash and right now im doing textures. Have a realistic map... but using dice as the main characters seem appropriate... where dice are usually used when figures are not on hand?
[04:27] <cypha> from the terminal
[04:27] <black9ice> I know it is a cat command I think, but I dont remember the file
[04:27] <Acorn> i just removed hwtest-gtk and it removed ubuntu-desktop, is that bad?
[04:27] <legend2440> [azrael]: in synaptic gdesklets-data contains sticky notes
[04:27] <achilles> yes it is
[04:28] <[azrael]> Does anyone know the command (program name) for the StickyNotesApplet (not Tomboy)?
[04:28]  * Templarian should of said it was for dnd min game... lol
[04:28] <martman> Starnestommy thanks
[04:28] <Acorn> why did it remove ubuntu-desktop?
[04:28] <garrett__> Templarian: that made absolutely no sense whatsoever.
[04:28] <tmapj> can anyone tell me how to enable the tun module?
[04:28] <matthew> can someone help me install firefox 3 rc1? Cause it keeps opening the old version, and when I run the binary itself, it says it can't find a shared library, even though the lib it asks for is in the same folder
[04:28] <tritium> Acorn: because it was a dependency of ubuntu-desktop
[04:28] <The_PHP_Jedi> >.< Ubuntu crapped on itself when upgrading to 8.04
[04:28] <tmapj> matthew uninstall both versions, then reinstall FF3
[04:29] <theFATMAN> matthew: mozilla.org?
[04:29] <[azrael]> legend2440: path?
[04:29] <Acorn> tritium: will it all be okay if i just install it again?
[04:29] <Templarian> garrett__: yea. I'm making a 3d flash game. In dnd when the figurines are not used are they usually replaced with dice to represent monsters/players.
[04:29] <Starnestommy> [azrael]: /usr/lib/gnome-applets/stickynotes_applet
[04:29] <Acorn> tritium: how come the computer still works with it uninstalled?
[04:29] <Starnestommy> [azrael]: I'm not sure what arguments it uses, though
[04:29] <tritium> Acorn: yes, but it will reinstall the dependency
[04:29] <tritium> Acorn: because it's just a meta-package
[04:29] <XDS2010> hi
[04:29] <matthew> tmapj, will that get rc1? cause the package manager says its version 3b5, which isn't what I want
[04:29] <garrett__> Templarian: fair enough, but totally offtopic
[04:29] <[azrael]> Starnestommy: thx, i will try it out
[04:29]  * Templarian wonders if there is a dnd irc... hmm a part of me doesn't want to know.
[04:29] <XDS2010> hi everyone
[04:29] <garrett__> Templarian: dunno
[04:29] <garrett__> Templarian: have you googled for dnd irc?
[04:30] <rabidweezle> arg, wine's sources.list is down on their site for ubuntu :(
[04:30] <Acorn> what will happen if i don't reinstall it tritium ?
[04:30] <tmapj> matthew whats rcl?
[04:30]  * Templarian leaves you guys thanks everyone for help. garrett_ i'm not actually going to research it lol.
[04:30] <tmapj> can anyone tell me how to enable the tun module?
[04:30] <rabidweezle> can someone pm me the sources.list line for wine's repo/
[04:30] <rabidweezle> ?
[04:30]  * garrett__ poops in your milk
[04:30] <Starnestommy> tmapj: sudo modprobe tun
[04:30] <tritium> garrett__: stop, please. Stay on topic.
[04:30] <garrett__> tritium: yeah, that's what i was trying to do
[04:30] <matthew> tmapj, rc1 is release candidate 1, which unbreaks some stuff, and works better than 3b5
[04:31] <garrett__> tritium: i need to stop feeding that stuff.
[04:31] <tritium> Acorn: nothing serious.  Just remember to reinstall it before you do a dist-upgrade.
[04:31] <Acorn> i thought the hardware test thing was something optional
[04:34] <[azrael]> Starnestommy: i'm using openSuSe, the stickynotes_applet is not in that folder, nor can i find it with "whereis"
[04:35] <Starnestommy> [azrael]: someone in #suse probably knows where opensuse has it
[04:35] <diddl> @azrael: one way to locate it would be to use your package management tool to locate the gnome packages and then look at the installed files. (assuming that the opensuse package tool is as powerful as debians)
[04:36] <CapaH> I have recorded a mp4 video upside down. This was because I held my iphone upside down :) -- I want to convert the video I recorded to be right-side-up. What software can do this? anyone?
[04:36] <rabidweezle> anyone have the deb line to put in sources.list for winehq?
[04:36] <rabidweezle> for hardy
[04:37] <legend2440> rabidweezle: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[04:37] <starz> !wine
[04:37] <nickrud> [azrael] I don't have scrollback, you were looking in /usr/lib/gnome-applets?
[04:37] <rabidweezle> getting a 404 on their sources.list
[04:37] <rabidweezle> ;/
[04:37] <DJ_Cranky> !appDB
[04:37] <jtaylor13> group:how do i install the open office 3.0 file?BEA300_m2_native_packed-2_en-US.9301
[04:37] <rabidweezle> lol, appdb?
[04:37] <[azrael]> Starnestommy: yes i was
[04:37] <rabidweezle> why don't you do a !grub while you are at it?
[04:37] <nickrud> rabidweezle should be the same as gutsy, should only have to change it to hardy
[04:38] <DJ_Cranky> rabidweezle i wondered what it was, sorry...?
[04:38] <nickrud> rabidweezle s/gutsy/hardy/ that is
[04:38] <rabidweezle> oh
[04:38] <rabidweezle> sorry, I'm a little snappy today
[04:38] <rabidweezle> sorry
[04:38] <rabidweezle> :(
[04:38] <cypha> MY TERMINAL isn't starting!
[04:38] <cypha> it opens, but doesn't show the CL
[04:38] <DJ_Cranky> rabidweezle no problem,
[04:38] <intell> I just purchased an ATI Radeon x1550. Got the drivers in. How do I use composite video in/out?
[04:38] <cypha> then it turns grey/black
[04:38] <cypha> it never actually gets to the cl
[04:39] <[azrael]> Starnestommy: that's the path you gave me
[04:39] <garrett__> cypha: my guess would be that your console's using the framebuffer, and something's mucked with that
[04:40] <[azrael]> Starnestommy: is there another console command to find that applet?
[04:40] <Starnestommy> [azrael]: locate stickynotes_applet
[04:40] <cypha> framebuffer?
[04:40] <cypha> garrett__, what's that?
[04:40] <rabidweezle> nickrud, I don't have the old repo in any of my pc's sources.list :/
[04:40] <tritium> [azrael]: this channel is for ubuntu support
[04:40] <ActionGrant> how do I join a different network?
[04:40] <Starnestommy> ActionGrant: /server new.server
[04:41] <ActionGrant> thanks
[04:41] <garrett__> cyhpa: the framebuffer allows your console to display graphics (like the splash screen) and run in non-console resolutions, like 640x480 or 1024x768
[04:41] <nickrud> rabidweezle deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main  should do it
[04:41] <garrett__> cypha: otherwise you use the same resolution as the bios
[04:41] <[azrael]> Starnestommy: this command does not work
[04:41] <Starnestommy> [azrael]: find / -iname stickynotes_applet
[04:41] <nickrud> [azrael] grep stickynotes /usr/lib , should find it
[04:41] <garrett__> cypha: can you goot off a cd?
[04:41] <cypha> garrett__, i haven't tried restart
[04:42] <garrett__> cyhpa: if so, google for how to disable the framebuffer in ubuntu; i don't remember the boot flag off hand
[04:42] <cypha> i know that will work
[04:42]  * nickrud looks at what he typed, and gags
[04:42] <cypha> but why has this happened at all is my question
[04:42] <cypha> *i know restart will work, that is
[04:42] <rabidweezle> thanks nickrud
[04:42] <garrett__> cypha: i don't have an answer for you, unfortunately
[04:42] <Acorn> why do my windows keep opening in the top left corner of the screen? :(
[04:42] <Acorn> when i open add/remove programs and it scans, the scanning window is all the way up in the corner
[04:43] <cypha> garrett__, does your linux ever do errors like that out of the blue?
[04:43] <garrett__> cypha: can't say it does.
[04:43] <garrett__> cypha: usually once it works it works
[04:43] <cypha> this sucks
[04:43] <cypha> i'm wondering if i should reformat
[04:43] <garrett__> cypha: i don't disagree
[04:44] <garrett__> cypha: linux != windows
[04:44] <cypha> you don't disagree with a reformat?
[04:44] <nickrud> windows ~= windows
[04:44] <cypha> meaning you would agree
[04:44] <garrett__> cypha: and using that as a base premise, once you figure out why tat happened you can actually fix it
[04:44] <rabidweezle> hrm, they don't have one for hardy right now, I will use gutsy...
[04:44] <cypha> how can i figure out why?
[04:44] <garrett__> cypha: when it boots all you get is a gray screen?
[04:44] <cypha> huh
[04:44] <cypha> no
[04:44] <cypha> i'm in right now
[04:45] <garrett__> cypha: oh, i misunderstood.  can you run your problem by me again?
[04:45] <[azrael]> Starnestommy: i found it: /usr/lib/gnome-panel/stickynotes_applet
[04:45] <bobsomebody> is there anyone who can make heads or tails of this? (comment from 2008-04-20)
[04:45] <cypha> when i go to Applications>Accessories>Terminal, it starts, but it doesn't show the CL
[04:45] <bobsomebody> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/194029
[04:45] <redshadowhero> so.. cany anyone help me troubleshoot my vpn connection? I'm at a bit of a loss here =_=
[04:45] <cypha> it's like frozen, it turns grey/black after a few moments (showing that it's a frozen application or whateveR)
[04:46] <garrett__> cypha: your entire desktop?
[04:46] <cypha> no
[04:46] <cypha> just the terminal app
[04:47] <garrett__> cypha: huh.  i can't speak to that directly, sorry.  i don't know why it'd do that
[04:47] <nickrud> cypha you could try sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-terminal
[04:47] <rabidweezle> looks to be the wine repo is down so you can still download the packages and install with gdebi package installer from the direct download with firefox at http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/
[04:48] <mib_4u9qp3> Does anybody here use a Tablet PC with a passive digitizer? I'm using a Fujitsu Lifebook P1510D and can't figure out how to make the touchscreen work.
[04:48] <garrett__> cypha: you could---yea; reinstall the terminal app and see if that helps, or use someting like rxvt or aterm as a stopgap
[04:48] <cypha> i'm saying, i have'nt restarted the computer
[04:48] <cypha> i' sure that would work
[04:48] <cypha> i'm wondering why this has happened at all
[04:48] <garrett__> bobsomebody: that's a realllllly weird problem
[04:48] <Rotund> mib_4u9qp3, I have one, but it's hard to setup right now as the calibrate program is broken
[04:49] <mib_4u9qp3> Rotund: What driver did you use?
[04:49] <garrett__> bobsomebody: and i'm glad i don't have to fix it :P
[04:49] <YourNameHere> What package provides 'seom-player'?
[04:49] <bobsomebody> garrett__,  lol
[04:49] <nickrud> !find seom-player
[04:49] <bobsomebody> unfortunately i do :/
[04:49] <Rotund> mib_4u9qp3, usbtouchscreen or something like that
[04:49] <Acorn> when i move the top bar, a ghost gets left behind
[04:49] <bobsomebody> the sudo fix dont fix for me
[04:49] <bobsomebody> :(
[04:49] <nickrud> YourNameHere apparently none
[04:50] <mib_4u9qp3> Rotund: I tried to set up an X11 driver from conan.de (I think) and some Perl-based driver; neither worked. Have you ever encountered them?
[04:50] <Rotund> I have a removal script that's throwing an error.  How do I tell apt-get or dpkg to ignore the error and remove anyway?
[04:50] <garrett__> bobsomebody: maybe the process has an absurd priority and it's screwing with the X poll events for input?
[04:50] <YourNameHere> nickrud, dang. yukon needs it for playback. I noticed that it came with the beryl recording plugin, but I can not find it by itself
[04:50] <nickrud> Rotund put the error on paste.ubuntu.com
[04:50] <bobsomebody> yeah i read that part
[04:50] <garrett__> bobsomebody: oh, someone mentoined that?
[04:50] <bobsomebody> suposedly a kernal recompile might fix it
[04:50] <garrett__> bobsomebody: haa, well, that's the only thing i can think of :P
[04:51] <Rotund> mib_4u9qp3, mine actually has a driver from the manufacturer, but it's binary and hasn't been updated in a while
[04:51] <nickrud> YourNameHere never heard of it till now myslef
[04:51] <Rotund> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14244/
[04:52] <mib_4u9qp3> Rotund: Oh... What company made your computer?
[04:52] <xodiak> Newbie question. Had problems getting ATI Radeon 9550 to work properly. If I can use the "Extra" visual effects can I assume all is well?
[04:52] <cirkit> anyone have an idea why a Lenovo Ideapad Y510, why the volume control on the actual laptop not work? All sound works and I finally got the subwoofer to work. There is a separate control physically on the laptop to control the volume but it doesn't work anymore
[04:52] <Rotund> mib_4u9qp3, HP it's an eGalax touchscreen
[04:53] <legend2440> xodiak: yes
[04:53] <xodiak> legend2440: thank you.
[04:53] <nickrud> Rotund take a look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/dspam-webfrontend.postrm , that's where the error is. See if you can fix the cause, and putting exit 0 just after set -e (or line 2, if there is no set -e) is a big hammer fix.
[04:53] <tigliona1bit> what's the apt package for the commandline mysql client?
[04:54] <garrett__> bobsomebody: did you try tweaking kernel options as was mentioned?
[04:54] <Starnestommy> tigliona1bit: I think it's mysql-client
[04:54] <mib_4u9qp3> Rotund: Hm. Mine's an ultraportable notebook which is mostly useless without some sort of touchscreen :-(
[04:54] <Acorn> when I use f11 to make terminal full screen and have that on one workspace, and then navigate to that workspace from another one, the bottom bar goes over it, any way to stop that form happening?
[04:54] <tigliona1bit> thanks
[04:54] <bobsomebody> im looking into that part
[04:54] <bobsomebody> its alot of french to me though
[04:54] <bobsomebody> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy.git;a=commit;h=273f7b551a420580307fa414fe616f0e276a4035
[04:54] <bobsomebody> that tweak?
[04:54] <garrett__> bobsomebody: ah, it's a race conditoin in that package
[04:55] <garrett__> bobsomebody: i'm going to finish reading this, hold on a second
[04:55] <legend2440> xodiak: in terminal type  glxinfo | grep direct                             will tell if direct rendering is enabled
[04:55] <bobsomebody> k
[04:55] <Acorn> argh, the ubuntu gui seems so buggy
[04:56] <mib_4u9qp3> Anybody know whether http://conan.de/touchscreen/p-series.html will work on 8.04?
[04:56] <nickrud> Acorn I like it a lot (but I only keep one panel on the top). You might like the kde (kubuntu-desktop) gui better
[04:56] <garrett__> bobsomebody: it seems like tweaking the kernel options is the best bet, but the lag will still occur under heavy IO input
[04:57] <garrett__> bobsomebody: *shrug* goofy problem
[04:57] <Acorn> nickrud: when i move the top panel the space where it used to be goes all strange and ghosty
[04:57] <Acorn> could i be a clash with compiz?
[04:57] <Acorn> *it
[04:57] <Intelligitimate> Help! I did something and now I only have a white screen.
[04:57] <bobsomebody> garrett__, yeah it bites, thanks for giving it a look-see :)
[04:57] <nickrud> Acorn compiz is something I don't use myself
[04:57] <Rotund> nickrud, thanks
[04:57] <garrett__> bobsomebody: sure thing, mate
[04:57] <Intelligitimate> I went into fireglconfig and tried to put my graphics card into clone mode.
[04:58] <nickrud> Acorn it's cockroachy in my opinion :)
[04:58] <navetz> can anyone help me with the new firefox 3.0, when I download things it wont let me open them by a default application, I always have to download and open them, any ideas?
[04:58] <Acorn> nickrud: haha
[04:58] <nickrud> Intelligitimate an ati chip?
[04:58] <Intelligitimate> Yep@
[04:58] <Intelligitimate> nickrud, yeah.
[04:58] <nickrud> did you try to install the drivers from the ati site?
[04:58] <Intelligitimate> It was working fine.
[04:59] <Intelligitimate> I just tried to make the tv-out work.
[04:59] <Intelligitimate> And screwed it up.
[04:59] <Intelligitimate> Now when it boots, I don't get --anything-- but a white screen.
[04:59] <Intelligitimate> Not logos, not text, no nothing.
[04:59] <nickrud> ok, hit ctl-alt-f2 , you should get a console
[04:59] <Intelligitimate> Just white screen.
[04:59] <Intelligitimate> Nope.
[05:00] <Intelligitimate> Does nothing.
[05:00] <Acorn> how do you switch between desktops?
[05:00] <Dot2Kode> ok i just gota say something...i setup ubuntu a few days ago to play around with...well after tonight xp just got kicked to the curb.
[05:00] <nickrud> Intelligitimate ok, boot in recovery mode, and try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg , and then exit.
[05:00] <Intelligitimate> How do I get into recovery mode?
[05:01] <nickrud> Intelligitimate when you boot, hit escape when you see something about grub. There'll be a menu
[05:01] <nickrud> Acorn clt-alt-<arrow keys>
[05:01] <Intelligitimate> There is no grub.
[05:01] <Intelligitimate> Only white screen,.
[05:01] <Intelligitimate> Literally --- power on ---> white screen
[05:01] <Intelligitimate> Nothing else.
[05:01] <Dot2Kode> i got about 25 tabs in firefox going...xchat on 3 - 4 servers...and compiz-fusion...and i have a movie going on mpayer playin smooth as hell.
[05:02] <nickrud> Intelligitimate how do you boot? This comes long before you can get a white screen. (White screen in the first couple seconds??!)
[05:02] <legend2440> navetz: in firefox open edit>preferences>applications and change always ask to preferred app to open different file types with
[05:02] <Intelligitimate> Yes, in the first couple seconds.
[05:02] <Dot2Kode> i couldnt even have 10tabs in firefox open by itself...hehe..let alone a movie going with it =P
[05:02] <navetz> legend2440: thanks, I will look into that
[05:02] <mib_4u9qp3> Any mutt users here?
[05:03] <kevin__> Newbie ubuntu question: IF you have a php/MySQL site up and running already can you  install some kind of control panel to administrate it? Thanks ahaed of time I am lost!!!
[05:03] <nickrud> Intelligitimate wow. grub comes before even the linux kernel. Can't imagine how working on tv out could do that
[05:03] <Sarah> i think ill have to reinstall ubuntu
[05:03] <mib_4u9qp3> kevin__: You can install phpMyAdmin to administrate the MySQL database. What kind of site do you refer to?
[05:03] <nickrud> kevin__ install either mysql-admin , or phpmyadmin and apache2
[05:03] <Intelligitimate> I am gonna remove the graphics card and try the onboard graphics.
[05:04] <kevin__> its a shopping cart website and I think phpmyadmin is loaded, but the problem is that the guy workign on the site wants a control panel to load a ssl cert for the site
[05:05] <Starnestommy> kevin__: you could use ebox for that
[05:05]  * nickrud makes a note to actually take a look at ebox, rather than just thinking about it
[05:05] <kevin__> coudl you install ebox without distubing the exsiting site?
[05:05] <arab-boy> hi, where I can get instructions about how to install or configure compiz? please.
[05:06] <navetz> legend2440: I have nothing in my applications menu for firefox.
[05:06] <nickrud> arab-boy if you're running either gutsy or hardy, you have compiz installed already. what video chip do you have?
[05:06] <Intelligitimate> Wow, graphics card is completely removed...boots to white screen.
[05:07] <bobsomebody> kevin__, direct admin is nice if your doing hosting or stuff like that
[05:07] <arab-boy> nickrud: ati but I am not able to enable desktop effects. I think I have some drivers missing..
[05:07] <nickrud> arab-boy probably. system->admin->hardware drivers or restricted managers look there to enable your video driver for ati or nvidia
[05:07] <Intelligitimate> I think I just screwed my new computer up...
[05:08] <nickrud> Intelligitimate if you have access to another, download dsl linux or knoppix to test
[05:08] <bobsomebody> bleh i think i might just pay someone to fix this stupid problem
[05:08] <Intelligitimate> Nothing is happening.
[05:08] <arab-boy> nickrud: hmmz, i am on hardware drivers and it doesn't show any drivers here.. it isn't detected.
[05:08] <bobsomebody> its beyond me lol
[05:08] <Intelligitimate> The screen is white.
[05:09] <Intelligitimate> Power on ---> white screen. Nothing else.
[05:09] <nickrud> arab-boy what type of video chip do you have? If you're not sure ,   lspci | grep -i vga   in a terminal will tell you
[05:09] <black9ice> ok I have a problem with Ubuntu, it doesnt seem to be loading the best driver for my sata controller, ICH9, tried Native and AHCI in the bios, both give low hdparm scores in Ubuntu, but not other distro's
[05:09] <xodiak> arab-boy: this really helped me out. If you aren't on hardy, they have the other versions as the site. http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide
[05:09] <Acorn> how do you change things like the top and bottom bars?
[05:09] <blah561> How do you uninstall an application in termnial?
[05:09] <blah561> terminal *
[05:09] <mib_4u9qp3> blah561: sudo apt-get uninstall <package name>
[05:09] <nickrud> Acorn right click, and add/remove
[05:09] <arab-boy> xodiak: thanks. I am on hardy
[05:09] <Acorn> sudo apt-get remove <package name>
[05:09] <mib_4u9qp3> oh, d'oh
[05:10] <mib_4u9qp3> sorry--long day :S
[05:10] <Acorn> :)
[05:10] <mib_4u9qp3> all this switching around between Ubuntu and MacPorts is confusing me
[05:11] <xodiak> I just quit my old machine running "Xubunut" there was an option to modify the top and bottom bars and make your own. Cannot find that in Ubuntu. Is that possible?
[05:12] <xodiak> Xubunut = Xubuntu
[05:12] <Acorn> nickrud: when i add a panel it's just blank
[05:12] <nickrud> xodiak right click the bars, add to panel, drag them around, etc
[05:12] <arab-boy> xodiak: thanks for the link. it is so helpful :)
[05:12] <nickrud> Acorn right click it and select add to pane, add the stuff you want
[05:12] <JRlinux> Where do I redefine $PATH  so that bash always finds it at startup.  It says that it is set to include user's bin file, if it exists, but it does not seem to...
[05:12] <nickrud> JRlinux you do have ~/bin ?
[05:13] <xodiak> arab-boy: No problem. Hope it works. It did for me.
[05:13] <Dr_willis> JRlinux,  set it in the .bashrc is the common way to do that.
[05:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !find b43
[05:13] <cleiton> a
[05:13] <nickrud> JRlinux or .bash_profile
[05:13] <JRlinux> Dr_willis, yeah, that is what I do in KDE... Just don't see it in the gnome bashrc...
[05:14] <Dr_willis> .bash_profile is  ONLY read by 'login' shells.    gnome dosent have a bashrc :) bash uses the .bashrc :) if you set it in your default bash_profile, then it should be set  for all things. I think
[05:14] <khin>  hi, im running Python 2.4.3 but for some reason when i try "from email.mime.text import MIMEText" I get "ImportError: No module named mime.text"
[05:14] <smmagic> okay, I just ubuntu onto my PC which has two HDs, a 160 and a 500gb. ubuntu installed to the 500gb and grub to the 160gb, so when I try to boot to the 160gb I get GRUB error 22, how do I fix it?
[05:14] <Dr_willis> do a test.. set it in .bash_profile and see if it takes.
[05:14] <khin> anyone know if there is some problem with the install on dapper or something
[05:15] <khin> its probably just me being a python n00b of course
[05:15] <JRlinux> How do you make a file browser with root or su ability?
[05:15] <Acorn> is there any way to choose the place on the screen where newly opened windows appear? i'd rather they appeared in the middle rather than all the way in the top left corner.
[05:15]  * nickrud has if [ -d ~/bin ] ; then <newline>   PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"  <newline> fi in ~/.bash_profile
[05:15] <crdlb> Acorn: using compiz?
[05:16] <nickrud> JRlinux alt-f2   gksu nautilus will open a root enabled browser instance
[05:16] <JRlinux> nickrud, THANKS
[05:16] <khin> Is this install of python messed up or something. Why do I not have a mime.text submodule? This seems gay
[05:16] <Jack_Sparrow> JRlinux Use that command with caution
[05:16] <JRlinux> Jack_Sparrow, OK, thanks
[05:17] <scooby2> anyone have instructions on how to install hardy heron via a usb thumb drive?
[05:17] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow hello!
[05:17] <j1solutions> anyone going to linuxworld expo in SF this year?
[05:17] <Zimmy> hey is there any problem with the ATI accelerated drivers in 8.04?
[05:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Hi nickrud , long time no see
[05:17]  * JRlinux finds ubuntu a different world.
[05:18] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow yeah, real life has been demanding lately
[05:19] <nickrud> !find mime.text
[05:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Is anyone here having an issue with broadcom bcm43xx wireless... I am working on a small tutorial and need to test it
[05:19] <nickrud> khin did you see that? mime.text is in the doc python2.5-doc package
[05:19] <Zimmy> Jack_Sparrow: mine's working fine once I installed the non-free driver
[05:19] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow if you promise it won't break mine, I'm using b43
[05:20] <Jack_Sparrow> nah.. I want one that isnt working.
[05:20] <Jack_Sparrow> mine have worked with no problems
[05:20] <crdlb> nickrud: nah, that's not it :)
[05:20] <Jack_Sparrow> see ya next week...
[05:21] <nickrud> crdlb ah, well if I can't trust !find, what can I trust ;(
[05:21] <crdlb> it would be email/mime/text.py if you were searching for it (or something close)
[05:21]  * alan_m is using ipw3945 jack...cant help ya there man.
[05:21] <alan_m> dang, 1 second too late lol
[05:21] <tonewhy> can someone help me out? i want to use pidgin to connect to msn account. but it is unable to authenticate: .net messenger service
[05:21] <Intelligitimate> The stupid fireglconfig broke my brand new computer.
[05:22] <Intelligitimate> It's broke.
[05:22] <MystaMax> hello, i clicked "Remember currently running applications" under session preferences, and now firefox and virtualbox start everytime i log in. how do I stop this?
[05:22] <mhz128> hello world
[05:22] <Zimmy> if anyone's got any answers, I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 and my ATI drivers don't want to work right, when I play a movie in MPlayer or any other player, it likes to A) not use the output device (X11, OpenGL, et cetera) or when I use OpenGL it's very choppy, not to mention so is my screensaver
[05:22] <mhz128> I've installed the Gnome artwork manager, however nothing happens when I launch it. How come?
[05:22] <Zimmy> it never did that on 7.10
[05:22] <tonewhy> can someone help me out? i want to use pidgin to connect to msn account. but it is unable to authenticate: .net messenger service
[05:23] <Y> Hey guys, does anyone know how I can check my computer for 3D acceleration?
[05:23] <alan_m> !patience > tonewhy
[05:23] <Y> tonewhy: Check your credentials.
[05:23] <nickrud> Y  glxconfig | grep direct  in a terminal
[05:24] <nickrud> mhz128 I think you have to tell it to download the artwork;
[05:24] <Y> nickrud: Just type glxconfig?
[05:24] <smmagic> Hi, when I boot up my PC i get GRUB error 22. How do I fix it?
[05:24] <legend2440> navetz: the empty applications menu is why you are always aked what to do with the files you download. do a search for the mimeTypes.rdf file. the firefox one not the thunderbird one and check the permissions on the file
[05:24] <alan_m> !grub | smmagic
[05:24] <nickrud> Y that will tell you a lot;  the | grep direct will search for the exact line you need in that output
[05:24] <mhz128> nickrud: its not a GUI app?
[05:24] <Y> Nickrud: Terminal returns "command not found"
[05:24] <smmagic> how does that help?
[05:24] <coil> hi
[05:24] <nickrud> mhz128 yes, it is. Or was, I haven't used it for a while
[05:24] <alan_m> you might want to reinstall smmagic, that error is probably due to a invalid configuration.
[05:25] <nickrud> Y     glxinfo | grep direct   <--
[05:25] <venkatachar> how to automount NTFS files in 8.01 on startup?
[05:25] <smmagic> alan_m: The thign is, I have two HDs, one with vista and one with XP
[05:25] <alan_m> its looking for a MBR that probably isnt there smash__
[05:25] <alan_m> *smmagic
[05:25] <Y> nickrud: That works. Thanks. =D
[05:25] <smmagic> Apparently I've installed ubuntu to the vista drive and grub to the XP drive
[05:25] <alan_m> that sounds likely smmagic
[05:26] <smmagic> So, I'm looking at the menu.lst and it appears to be good
[05:26] <alan_m> from what your telling me
[05:26] <venkatachar> ﻿how to automount NTFS Drives in 8.04 on startup?
[05:26] <Y> nickrud: Can you help me out with this? I'm trying to run a program and I think I'm having a 3D accel. problem, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for.
[05:26] <Ce_pInK> ii
[05:26] <Dr_willis> venkatachar,  put an entry in the /etc/fstab file for them is one way.
[05:26] <tonewhy> hmm i tried forwarding port 1863 to my comp but the msn thru pidgin stil doesn't work does anyone know why
[05:26] <coil> something is wrong with my grub
[05:26] <woli> help. I can't uninstall the kiba dock...
[05:26] <smmagic> alan_m: Do you want me to pastebin my menu.lst?
[05:26] <coil> and now
[05:26] <alan_m> smmagic, please :)
[05:26] <tmapj> is there a linux version of Microsoft Expression Studio or Microsoft Expression Web?
[05:27] <nickrud> Y if it answered yes, you have 3d. However, if you're running compiz (the fancy desktopeffects) it can conflict with other opengl apps
[05:27] <coil> it's trying to mount my winxp partition even if i do root=/dev/sdb3 (my /)
[05:27] <Y> !pastebin
[05:27] <coil> winxp partition is sda1
[05:27] <shree_> Has anyone tried Landell or Ereseva on Hardy
[05:27] <venkatachar> ﻿ Dr_willis: can you let me know what exactly i need to put in fstab or point me to somw wiki/webpage?
[05:27] <smmagic> I think its probably a very simple thing, alan_m, I just don't know what to do :P
[05:27] <Dr_willis> tmapj,  i imagine most of us in here - have no idea what those 2 programs do. :)     tell us what tasks you want to do.. and we will suggest programs to do the jobx.
[05:27] <Y> One sec, I'm going to put up a link to pastebin.
[05:27]  * alan_m is almost positive thats whats going on....
[05:27] <woli> can somebody help me to uninstall the kiba-dock?
[05:27] <buntunub> anyone know how to get window borders working with compiz at default for mythtv windowed mode?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> venkatachar,  this is documented at dozens of places.. lets see if the bot has some factoids..
[05:27] <smmagic> alan_m: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14246/
[05:27] <Dr_willis> !ntfs | venkatachar
[05:27] <Y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14247/
[05:27] <nickrud> mhz128 I just installed gnome-art and tried running it, it got reset by the peer (meaning, the site it leeches artwork from said NO!)
[05:28] <tmapj> Dr_willis, im looking for webpage making software
[05:28] <Y> nickrud: I do not have compiz on. In fact, desktop effects are set to none.
[05:28] <mhz128> nickrud: ah makes sense! same error i got
[05:28] <tmapj> ANYONE, im looking for webpage making software
[05:28] <mhz128> nickrud: any other Ubuntu themes available?
[05:28] <buntunub> !bluefish
[05:28] <tonewhy> tmapj, use blue fish
[05:28] <Dr_willis> tmapj,  theres a lot of html editors out there.  - I dont really use them  'bluefish' seems popular.
[05:28] <nickrud> tmapj bluefish, and kompozer
[05:29] <tmapj> is it in the repositories?
[05:29] <venkatachar> Dr_wills: thanks i will google it.
[05:29] <buntunub> yes think so
[05:29] <tonewhy> tmpaj yes
[05:29] <nickrud> mhz128 art.gnome.org, and gnome-look.org
[05:29] <coil> wheres the conf file for system bootup
[05:29] <alan_m> smmagic, i really dont know what to tell you...your grub looks immaculate (great)....
[05:29] <smmagic> I know.
[05:29] <smmagic> Maybe
[05:29] <nickrud> coil scattered. What exactly are you looking for?
[05:29] <smmagic> I put my swap in hd1,2
[05:29] <smmagic> and ubuntu in hd1,3
[05:30] <coil> well for some reason fsck has a hardon of trying to check my ntfs drive
[05:30] <alan_m> smmagic, can I ask that you not do the enter as punctuation, and keep responses on 1 line?
[05:30] <mhz128> rickrud: cool thanks man!
[05:30] <alan_m> thank you buddy :)
[05:30] <smmagic> Okay, sorry
[05:30] <coil> so something is causing a fsck
[05:30] <coil> during bootup
[05:30] <smmagic> alan_m: Anyway to check where the ubuntu partition is?
[05:30] <Y> I'm trying to run a game. When I pull it up it is just a black screen with just a version number and the game's cursor. Can someone offer some advice?
[05:31] <tonewhy> can anyone help me out to get msn account to work on pidgin?
[05:31] <Y> tonewhy: Did you check your login credentials?
[05:32] <tonewhy> y: ok nvm thnx
[05:32] <xodiak> how to I open file browser as su?
[05:32] <alan_m> smmagic, I can see that its on your 2nd hd second partition.
[05:32] <nickrud> tonewhy you might try in #pidgin
[05:32] <mhz128> nickrud: how come I cant find Emerald for ubuntu anymore?
[05:32] <smmagic> alan_m: But i sized my swap first. and ext3 partition second.
[05:32] <Acorn> how do make it so that when bars autohide they don't have a bit sticking out? or so that windows can go under the sticking out bit when full screen?
[05:33] <legend2440> xodiak: gksu nautilus but be careful
[05:33] <tonewhy> nick: i got it to work the port had to be forwarded thnx
[05:33] <nickrud> mhz128 it's there, sudo apt-get install emerald. I've never had any luck getting it started without doing   alt-f2  emerald --replace
[05:33] <alan_m> smmagic, you have me baffled by this...sorry man.
[05:33] <jordan> hey guys
[05:33] <smmagic> I'm sorry that I can't explain well alan_m
[05:33] <xodiak> legend2440: thanks and understood
[05:33] <coil> whats the file to auto mount stuff
[05:33] <coil> on bootup
[05:33] <alan_m> smmagic, its not your fault buddy :)
[05:33] <mhz128> nickrud: where can i find a list of all the packages availble to ubuntu? the package manager sux =p
[05:34] <jordan> synaptic sucks? its amazing haha
[05:34] <legend2440> xodiak: gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[05:34] <alan_m> smmagic, im just baffled by what your saying and then what grub's telling me..it just doesnt add up.
[05:34] <jordan> i believe it was coil who asked that ledgend, not xodiak
[05:34] <smmagic> I know =_= I'm an idiot
[05:34] <alan_m> (not that your necessarily wrong smmagic...im NOT saying that)
[05:34] <smmagic> ooh
[05:34] <abramson> can sum1 help me; i recently installed opensuse to an external hdd that i hooked up to my computer. then i installed the boot loader that came with it. I now have to hook up 2 the hdd to bring up my boot menu, but if i select a system on my internal hdd, after i select it from the menu i can unpug the external drive. Ho can i e-install my boot loader to m internal drive?
[05:34] <smmagic> Check this out, alan_m
[05:35] <abramson>  can sum1 help me; i recently installed opensuse to an external hdd that i hooked up to my computer. then i installed the boot loader that came with it. I now have to hook up 2 the hdd to bring up my boot menu, but if i select a system on my internal hdd, after i select it from the menu i can unplug the external drive. Ho can i e-install my boot loader to m internal drive?
[05:35] <smmagic> alan_m: on /dev/sdb/ ubuntu is on dev/sdb3/
[05:35] <joetheodd_> Bash question! How can I recursively delete empty folders?
[05:35] <smmagic> and thats my vista drive, alan_m
[05:36] <psychofish25> guys i have a question, i know that the keycode for Alt is <Alt> and control is <Ctrl> and theres also ><button 1> and so on, what is the code for print sreen?
[05:36] <nickrud> abramson once you have ubuntu booted up, run sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[05:36] <alan_m> smmagic, I hate to tell you..but it is 11:35PM CST...another words im fixing to have to go to bed....so...unfortunately i cant help you much longer.
[05:36] <abramson>  can sum1 help me; i recently installed opensuse to an external hdd that i hooked up to my computer. then i installed the boot loader that came with it. I now have to hook up 2 the hdd to bring up my boot menu, but if i select a system on my internal hdd, after i select it from the menu i can unplug the external drive. Ho can i re-install my boot loader to m internal drive?
[05:36] <jentastic> joetheodd: sudo rm -rf folder
[05:36] <abramson> kk thx
[05:36] <smmagic> oh god..uh alan_m should I try switching it to hd1,3 anyway?
[05:36] <coil> whats the conf file for auto mounting stuff on ubuntu
[05:36] <psychofish25> guys whats the key label for print screen?
[05:37] <tmapj> can anyone help me install anonet?
[05:37] <arab-boy> !pidgin
[05:37] <KRaZy_WaKa> how do i mirror my Hardy installation to another hard drive? current HDD is 20 GB new one is 40GB... i could just reinstall but it's a pain to remember everything i already installed
[05:37] <Y> psychofish25: PrtSc
[05:37] <alan_m> smmagic, i dont think much would hurt right now...you can try but I make no promises or guaruntees that that will necessarily fix your problem.
[05:37] <smmagic> okay
[05:37] <smmagic> I will try
[05:37] <psychofish25> coil i believe its /etc/fstab
[05:38] <Y> KRaZy_WaKa: That's why G-d made paper. =D
[05:38] <psychofish25> can someone tell me what the keycode is for print screen?
[05:38] <psychofish25> like ctrl is <Control>
[05:38] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol no doubt
[05:38] <dabbill> KRaZy_WaKa, sudo cp -p drive drive
[05:38] <TechieDragon> Ok... I finally got my issue with ssh resolved - and I am using putty to connect.  However I am still having an issue.  When I use the up-arrow key for example I get ^[[A (or something like that)
[05:38] <nickrud> coil /etc/init.d/mountall.sh
[05:38] <coil> thx
[05:38] <KRaZy_WaKa> and i would run that in terminal?
[05:39] <khin> current HDD is 20 GB? get a new HDD.
[05:39] <psychofish25> u type it KRaZY
[05:39] <TechieDragon> Is this an issue with a setting on my end; with putty; or an issue with something on the ubunty server
[05:39] <Dr_willis> TechieDragon,  under all apps? or just some?
[05:39] <dabbill> KRaZy_WaKa, yes you do that in terminal
[05:39] <dabbill> KRaZy_WaKa, that should keep all permissions on the files
[05:40] <TechieDragon> I am on a windows vista machine; running PuTTy connecting to the ubuntu server; and am at the command prompt..
[05:40] <psychofish25> what does '-p' do after cp?
[05:40] <moDumass> hmm, so is there a wayt o get emerald theme switcher to switch themes in hardy?
[05:40] <nickrud> TechieDragon probably a putty setting, is it set for vt100 ?
[05:40] <dabbill> KRaZy_WaKa, actull do sudo cp -rp
[05:40] <arab-boy> psychofish25: why don't just press the key labeled PrtSc
[05:40] <TechieDragon> I have tried several different terminal modes....
[05:40] <DIguana> I've got a Broadcom BCM4318 wireless card in my laptop that I can't seem to get working. I've installed the bw43-fwcutter package and set it to download and extract the firmware, but my system still isn't able to see any networks and I know that there are a few available. Is there anything else I should be doing?
[05:40] <psychofish25> well i need it for compiz arab-boy
[05:40] <Auctionedllama> Hey, I am using a compiz cube, and is there any way to have different icons, and a different backround on each face of the cube?
[05:40] <nickrud> moDumass you have to do   alt-f2 emerald --replace after selecting a theme (or, I've found no ther way)
[05:40] <psychofish25> i want to know what the identifier would be
[05:40] <TechieDragon> Which terminal mode shoud it be set for?
[05:40] <dabbill> KRaZy_WaKa, adding the -r in there keeps it from pestering you for each folder to copy
[05:40] <arab-boy> psychofish25: ah, ok. sorry no idea then ;)
[05:41] <psychofish25> Auctioned, i dont believe so
[05:41] <nickrud> TechieDragon vt100 emulation is supported well
[05:41] <psychofish25> arab-boy: thanks anyway haha
[05:41] <arab-boy> n.p
[05:41] <psychofish25> ive posted on ubuntuforums several times but havent gotten an answer
[05:41] <psychofish25> i think the forum guys are getting lazy ;-)
[05:41] <TechieDragon> Ok... if I run an application like nano the arrow keeys work fine.
[05:41] <KRaZy_WaKa> that will make an exact duplicate of my ubuntu installation to the 40 gig?
[05:41] <TechieDragon> so it is just at the command-line
[05:42] <KRaZy_WaKa> will there be any problems because of mirroring to a different size HDD?
[05:42] <dabbill> KRaZy_WaKa, doing sudo cp -rp (mount point) (mount point) will make a direct copy
[05:42] <dabbill> KRaZy_WaKa, its not really mirroring
[05:42] <psychofish25> dabbill, what does '-rp' do?
[05:43] <woli> has anybody used art manager recently? I think its not working
[05:43] <CLEARviewF> hi!... does anybody know what is the Rythmbox IRC channel?
[05:43] <psychofish25> google it
[05:43] <dabbill> psychofish25, -r forces the copy of folders, -p keeps permissions
[05:43] <tommy> Ubuntu 7.04 showed my hidden partition, but Hardy doesnt.  ANy ideas anyone plz?
[05:43] <psychofish25> dabbill, thanks i was just wondering
[05:43] <dabbill> psychofish25, NP :)
[05:43] <Y> CLEARviewF: What's the problem?
[05:43] <tommy> !hidden partition
[05:43] <KRaZy_WaKa> well dont know correct terminology so was just implying a direct copy to keep all my programs and settings in tact
[05:43] <abramson> nickrud: your suggestion did solve my original problem, but now i have another; the boot list will only show my ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu, not my other systems, even if i have the external hdd plugged in. is her a way you know of to fix this?
[05:44] <CLEARviewF> Y: i can not edit my tags in Rythmbox
[05:44] <tommy> Ubuntu 7.04 showed my hidden partition, but Hardy doesnt.  ANy ideas anyone plz?
[05:44] <Y> CLEARviewF: Any of them?
[05:44] <nickrud> abramson you'd have to manually add them to /boot/grub/menu.lst , I'd suggest after the END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC line. You can simply copy the stanzas from the external.
[05:45] <dabbill> KRaZy_WaKa, so say doing sudo cp -rp / /media/hdb1     will copy every from from / to /media/hdb1 and keep all permisions intact for the files.
[05:45] <CLEARviewF> When i sue Amarok, all my tags are edited like i want, but, when i see the same Collection with Rythmbox, the collection is diferent and bad configured, why?
[05:45] <psychofish25> IRC is faster than a forum, but i think its too fast so alot of stuff isnt answered haha
[05:45] <abramson> how i do that, sorry i am a noob to ubuntu, only started 3 weeks ago
[05:46] <abramson> (nickrud0
[05:46] <Y> CLEARviewF: That's an ID3/metadata problem. You're just editing their face values in the given program, not the actual file itself.
[05:46] <arab-boy> psychofish25: like your stuff ha? ;)
[05:46] <dabbill> KRaZy_WaKa, then if you ever mess anything up in / you can do sudo cp -rp /media/hdb1 / and it will take your computer back to how it was when you copied every thing to /media/hdb1
[05:46] <psychofish25> abramson, simply open /boot/grub/menu.lst with text editor and add the HDD there
[05:46] <KRaZy_WaKa> you'll love ubuntu abramson, i've only been running it for a couple months if that
[05:46] <CLEARviewF> Y: i have a relative big collection, 7700 songs
[05:46] <psychofish25> arab-boy, sorry what do u mean? haha
[05:46] <Y> CLEARviewF: I do not know if MusicBrainz works in Linux, but it is an excellent auto-tagging system. One moment, let me check for you.
[05:46] <arab-boy> psychofish25: did you get an answer for the PrScr issue?
[05:47] <psychofish25> arab, nope :-(
[05:47] <xodiak> New to ubuntu here too. Don't have a clue about half the stuff I wan't to do.....
[05:47] <CLEARviewF> Y: and around 700 have lost his tags in rythmbox, why?
[05:47] <arab-boy> psychofish25: yeah, thats what I ment
[05:47] <psychofish25> xodiak, its truly tough to get used to. r u an ex-windower?
[05:47] <psychofish25> arab, ah ok
[05:47] <Y> CLEARviewF: Hang tight one moment bud.
[05:47] <KRaZy_WaKa> well i am pulling my 20GB to give to a friend and i have a 40GB to put in my comp, i just don't want to have to start over from install
[05:47] <abramson> how do i open it?
[05:47] <dabbill> KRaZy_WaKa, where is your 40gig HD mounted?
[05:48] <nickrud> abramson ok, the fastest way would be to run cp /boot/grub/menu.lst ~/Desktop  (to make a backup)  then alt-f2 gksu gedit /etc/grub/menu.lst , and scroll to the bottom. That's where you would add. Then open a regular gedit (  alt-f2 gedit ) and navigate to one on the external. Copy and paste
[05:48] <ArthurArchnix> Hi... I've got these four files in my trash: _CACHE_MAP_  :  _CACHE_001_  :  _CACHE_002_  then 003. I can't delete them. When I tried I got the error: File does not exist. I then tried removing my Trash folder at ~/.local/share/Trash but now I can't delete anything. It only says "I can't move it to Trash, do you want to permanently delete it."  So I have two problems: The first is when I open my trash folder through nautilus
[05:48] <Intelligitimate> I can't believe the fireglcontrol destroyed my computer.
[05:48] <KRaZy_WaKa> it's not installed yet i have to format it still
[05:48] <psychofish25> KRaZY, u could torrent partitionmagic, but im not sure if this server supports illegal torrenting
[05:48] <ArthurArchnix> If I can't get help here, I think these questions are also suitable for #metaphics
[05:48] <KRaZy_WaKa> just trying to get everything ready to go
[05:48] <ArthurArchnix> Joke was ruined by bad spelling, but you get the idea.
[05:49] <psychofish25> Arthut, at least u tried ;-)
[05:49] <psychofish25> Arthur* haha
[05:49] <nickrud> ArthurArchnix hah. try   mkdir ~/.local/share/Trash now
[05:49] <dabbill> KRaZy_WaKa, once you mount your 40gig HD do sudo cp -rp / (mounted 40gig HD)
[05:49] <Y> CLEARviewF: Ok do this for me. Go to http://musicbrainz.org/doc/PicardDownload and download the Linux version, install it and pull it up. I'll provide a guide on how to use it in just one more moment...
[05:49] <buntunub> ﻿anyone know how to get window borders working with mythtv in windowed mode with compiz on?
[05:49] <abramson> nickrud: wer is "Boot" under computer, i dont see it
[05:49] <dabbill> KRaZy_WaKa, that will copy every thing in / to your 40gig HD and you should be able to then boot off the 40gig HD just like you do with the 20gig.
[05:50] <ArthurArchnix> nickrud: Yeah, I did that. It doesn't work. Would restarting my session help, because I haven't tried that.
[05:50] <nickrud> abramson it's /boot , at the root of the computer
[05:50] <navetz_> legend2440: ok thanks ill look into it
[05:50] <abramson> k
[05:50] <nickrud> abramson you have made a backup, right?
[05:50] <abramson> ya
[05:50] <CLEARviewF> Y: i can see MuzikBrains in Amarok but i made a .asoundrc file to duplicate my stereo channel to 4.0 and now i can not use Amarok because it crashes, someting about Xine, i am in Hardy, using ALSA instead of PULSE because PULSE is buggy in Hardy :)
[05:50] <abramson> y?
[05:51] <bigmcq77> when I run gnome it closes immediatly
[05:51] <abramson> mite this crash it?
[05:51] <nickrud> abramson before you go any further, try booting from the external (we wanna be sure you can boot if anything goes wrong)
[05:51] <mr_flea> Setting utc=no in /etc/default/rcS seems to have no effect. Do I need to fix this somewhere else to have it assume local hardware clock?
[05:51] <tommy> Ubuntu doesnt show my MS Windows internal HDD. Anyone know why?
[05:51] <langleyo> in system-admin i have 2 printing menu items...how do i remove one?
[05:51] <tommy> how can I tell Hardy to see my internal MS WIndows HDD?
[05:51] <navetz_> legend2440: I found it, premissions are 777, but there is nothing in it.
[05:51] <tonewhy> does anyone know of a good RAW viewer or editor similar to lightroom?
[05:51] <kindofabuzz> tommy: it should automatically
[05:52] <nickrud> mr_flea that should do it, with a reboot
[05:52] <navetz_> legend2440: well very little
[05:52] <tommy> kindofabuzz, should doesnt cut it lol
[05:52] <KRaZy_WaKa> that will keep all my upgrades and other programs in tact as well? (i.e. firestarter, OpenJDK, WINE)
[05:52] <tommy> kindofabuzz, read my post again'
[05:52] <Y> CLEARviewF: Obviously Musicbrainz did not rewrite the ID3 tags of the files when used in Amarok. I personally do not use my Amarok/Musicbrainz extension, I just use the program itself. Try downloading it and using that itself.
[05:52] <mr_flea> nickrud, I tried rebooting, but it did nothing.
[05:52] <legend2440> navetz_: http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=en-US&forumId=1&comments_parentId=51879
[05:52] <tommy> kindofabuzz,  how can I tell Hardy to see my internal MS WIndows HDD?
[05:52] <nickrud> langleyo right click the menu bar, then select edit
[05:52] <tommy> nickrud, do you know?
[05:52] <langleyo> nickrud: thanks
[05:52] <abramson> nickrud: cant, no way to, but ive done it befor
[05:52] <KRaZy_WaKa> tommy: you have to mount your Win HDD
[05:52] <Y> CLEARviewF:
[05:53] <langleyo> nickrud: no option to delete one
[05:53] <Outlander> hi :) on the ubuntu forum in the stats of my profile, there is a "Total Thanks" count. How does that count go up?
[05:53] <nickrud> abramson set the external as higher priority boot than the hard drive, it should try using the grub still on the external
[05:53] <tommy> Ok, I did some more googling, and it is a Hardy bug.
[05:53] <kindofabuzz> tommy: open up nautilus, should be there
[05:53] <nickrud> langleyo do you see two?
[05:53] <tommy> KRaZy_WaKa, how do i do that?
[05:53] <CLEARviewF> Y: i dont use MuzikBrain in amarok, i use the program all the time to edit my tags
[05:53] <langleyo> nickrud: yes
[05:53] <tommy> kindofabuzz, you are trolling dude. pls stop it
[05:53] <nickrud> langleyo just uncheck one
[05:53] <powertool08> general ?: i hear a buzzing noise under the keyboard of my laptop when i plug in the ac power cord. what causes this?
[05:54] <kindofabuzz> tommy: what? i'm telling you how to check
[05:54] <langleyo> nickrud: how? i see no option to do that
[05:54] <tommy> KRaZy_WaKa, how do I mount myr Win HDD?
[05:54] <kindofabuzz> jeeez some people just don't listen
[05:54] <KRaZy_WaKa> one moment trying to find where i did it
[05:54] <tonewhy> does any photographers here know of a program for linux which is similar to lightroom?
[05:54] <woli> how to reenable screelet's daemon tray?
[05:54] <tommy> kindofabuzz, stop it!! you are trolling and being an idiot!  of course I already looked in nautilus.  My HDD is not showing.  so be silent unless u have a solution
[05:54] <Y> CLEARviewF: I don't use Rhthymbox, but you'll probably need to update your collection some how. If you use Picard then it's re-written the metadata and the files, despite their face names, should load properly in any music player.
[05:54] <nickrud> langleyo navigate to the admin menu, and uncheck the box in the right pane next to one of the printing thingo's
[05:54] <kindofabuzz> tommy: open up your file browser whatever it may be, and you should see it
[05:54] <CLEARviewF> Y: When i reinstall another Linux Distribution and use my old Collection in Amarok, all the tags are fine and in the place these has to be, but in Rythmbox it doesn't work.....
[05:55] <tommy> !ban kindofabuzz
[05:55] <tommy> !troll kindofabuzz
[05:55] <kindofabuzz> tommy: dude you need to calm down
[05:55] <abramson> nickrud: im lost, so far ive opened the script, can u lead me step by step on wat i need 2 do?
[05:55] <nickrud> tommy kindofabuzz both calm down, please
[05:55] <mbi0> hellow  having a bit of trouble with ubuntu 8.04 64 bit version, problem its with wireless card can any one help me with it ?
[05:55] <KRaZy_WaKa> yeah you could open your file browser and do it that way... the Win HDD should show up, double-click it and enter your password when prompted
[05:56] <langleyo> nickrud: i would...but theres nothing to uncheck/select...just the tab and options to add it to desktop/panel
[05:56] <tonewhy> any photographers in here that use RAW program?
[05:56] <dmsuperman> !msgthebot | tommy
[05:56] <nickrud> abramson ok, now if you look towards the bottom you'll see some stuff with title, kernel, etc. That's the stuff that boots
[05:56] <nickrud> langleyo right click the menu bar itself, and there's an option
[05:56] <nickrud> edit
[05:57] <abramson> nickrud: k, wat next?
[05:57] <mbi0> wireless trouble with ubuntu 8.04 any one can help me ?
[05:57] <ArthurArchnix> Ok... I've tried removing my Trash folder, then recreating it, then rebooting. I still can't delete files. Ubuntu doesn't realize there is no Trash.
[05:57] <nickrud> abramson ok, now you need to find the equivalent file for suse on the external
[05:57] <ArthurArchnix> Or rather, Ubuntu thinks there is no trash.
[05:57] <nickrud> abramson it would be in /boot/grub/grub.conf , iirc
[05:58] <abramson> wat (rufly) wuld it b called?
[05:58] <nickrud> abramson with /boot in this case being on a partition on the external drive
[05:58] <KRaZy_WaKa> tommy: there is a place in the System menu where you can set it so your second hard drive shows up in the Places menu and all you have to do is click there and don't have to bother with entering your password every time you mount the volume
[05:58] <Y> CLEARviewF: Hmmm... Try uninstalling RB and reinstalling it is all I can suggest.
[05:58] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa tommy left
[05:58] <vnonnenmacher> hi there folks
[05:58] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol thanx nick
[05:58] <lukifer_etyrnal> how is it, that after apparently successfully completing a i386 8.04 Server install that SAW, and PARTITIONED, and INSTALLED to a 6-drive RAID, when i reboot from the installer, the systen doesn't come up... ??
[05:58] <lukifer_etyrnal> was there a 6.06/1 SERVER iso ??
[05:59] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa I gotta watch all those part/join stuff, you're lucky ;)
[05:59] <lukifer_etyrnal> was there a 6.06/1 SERVER i386 iso ??
[05:59] <vnonnenmacher> someone can help me with my video card ?
[05:59] <langleyo> nickrud: i go to system-admin-printing-right click....only optionsavailable are to add launcher  to desktop, panel or add drawer/menu to panel...no removal facilities shown at all..this is confusing me
[05:59] <KRaZy_WaKa> part/join stuff? ok people leaving and joing i guess you mean? guess that makes you Mod lol
[05:59] <xodiak> vnonnenmacher: some good folks here, but they need to know what kind of card you got.
[06:00] <nickrud> lukifer_etyrnal iirc you need a /boot partition outside of the raid, but #ubuntu-server probably has more knowing people
[06:00] <langleyo> nickrud: im on hardy heron btw
[06:00] <nickrud> langleyo no, without opening any menu, right click right on top of 'Applications'
[06:00] <xodiak> vnonnenmacher: And what version of ubuntu you are on
[06:00] <CLEARviewF> Y: you mean, i do: sudo apt-get remove --purge rythmbox* ?
[06:01] <langleyo> nickrud: aha...i see it ....
[06:01] <mbi0> any one knows how to solve wireless cards driver problems ?
[06:01] <abramson> nickrud: im rlly stuck, is ther anytin online that describes it?
[06:01] <ArthurArchnix> can someone run this command for me and tell me what the output is: cd ~/.local/share && ls -l
[06:01] <nickrud> langleyo and now you're gonna see all the stuff the dev's didn't think you needed to se ;)
[06:02] <nickrud> abramson not really. do you remember what partition you put suse on on the external?
[06:02] <legend2440> tonewhy: http://linuxmini.blogspot.com/2008/03/adobe-lightroom-alternative-picasa-for.html
[06:02] <nickrud> abramson or, not easily understood
[06:02] <ariqs> i used to have a shortcut to load a windows game with wine that worked fine. I didn't change the shortcut and now it won't work, any ideas?
[06:02] <langleyo> nickrud: i got it sorted now....great....though a little confusing :)
[06:02] <langleyo> nickrud: thanks dude
[06:02] <abramson> nickrud: #3
[06:02] <ArthurArchnix> specifically, I just need the file permissions of the Trash folder
[06:02] <ariqs> there was an error creating the child process for this terminal
[06:03] <ariqs> "wine /media/disk/Program Files/PokerStars/PokerStars.exe"
[06:03] <nickrud> abramson ok, do you see the partition in the places menu?
[06:03] <woli> my screenlets won't work
[06:04] <ariqs> you know what's funny? I could join a windows channel with 1/100th the number of people in it, but I am far more likely to get help ;P
[06:04] <abramson> nickrud: no, must i be hooked up 2 the drive to see it?
[06:04] <CLEARviewF> Y: eythmbox has an IRC channel?
[06:04] <nickrud> abramson yes
[06:04] <abramson> o....
[06:04] <abramson> my bad, srry
[06:04] <nickrud> hahahahhahahhahahaaahhaahahhaha
[06:05] <CLEARviewF> Y: i am installing Picard using the repo for Ubuntu
[06:05] <langleyo> nickrud: for what its worth, in my opinion i think that option would have been better put under system tab as its to do with altering stuff under the hood so to speak...thanks for your help :)
[06:05] <abramson> lol srry man, ill hook up ite now
[06:05] <ArthurArchnix> Ok... my problem was it was owned by root. But now I'm back to my first problem. I have four files I can see but can't remove from Trash. There not in there. They must be in some kind of trash cache limbo.
[06:05] <nickrud> langleyo yeah, it could be more obvious. Take it as a reminder that nearly everything you can't find anywhere else is probably under right click :)
[06:06] <langleyo> nickrud: noted
[06:06] <muzy> hi @ all, i've a question. I've installed ubuntu but i can't install some (okay better,most) packages. What it the problem?
[06:06] <nickrud> ArthurArchnix try doing   find / -iname Trash , see if there's a trash somewhere else
[06:06] <ariqs> muzy: you're going to have to elaborate
[06:06] <langleyo> muzy: did you upgrade?
[06:07] <muzy> no
[06:07] <nickrud> !gutsysources | muzy (works for hardy as well)
[06:07] <mattrw89> #ardour
[06:07] <KRaZy_WaKa> ArthurArchnix: they are probably in your user trash
[06:07] <Intelligitimate> The fglrx-control killed me motherboard.
[06:07] <ArthurArchnix> cd /data
[06:07] <ArthurArchnix> ls
[06:08] <nickrud> Intelligitimate you're sure? That totally sucks
[06:08] <ArthurArchnix> heh... oops. wrong window
[06:08] <Intelligitimate> I can't say I've ever had software destroy my motherboard before.
[06:08] <KRaZy_WaKa> ArthurArchnix: you may have to show hidden files to find it
[06:08] <Intelligitimate> I usually have to solder crap to do that.
[06:08] <MrObvious> Dang I am nervous. I'm sorry I am off topic but we are about to get a tornado. It's about 5 minutes SW of town (Hutchinson, KS). I hope we stay alive.
[06:08] <bobby> How can I make another user a sudoer?
[06:08] <MrObvious> We never get tornadoes.
[06:08] <nickrud> Intelligitimate heh. did that on my first computer, had to assemble it.
[06:08] <Intelligitimate> I made a thread on the forums, warning anyone else googling it.
[06:09] <ArthurArchnix> Yeah KRaZy_WaKa I already removed the user trash folder then recreated it. There are certainly no files in my trash, but four appear to be there anyway when I open it. And my trash icon is always showing full.
[06:09] <Intelligitimate> The card worked great too...I just had to try and get the S-Video working...
[06:09] <KRaZy_WaKa> ArthurArchnix: I couldnt honestly point you in the right direction i have stumbled on it manually browsing through folders and can never find it when i want to lol
[06:09] <nickrud> had to order another cpu. Reminder to self: destatic after walking across acrylic carpet
[06:09] <muzy> I've installed the newest ubuntu dvd. Now everything get started, but when i click on "add new software" i see a new widow. Now when i wanna click on any software, the programm says: this is not for your architechture i386
[06:09] <Intelligitimate> Why couldn't I just leave the S-Video alone...
[06:09] <TechieDragon> Still working with respect to my SSH connection to my server.  I am able to establish my connection without issue.  At the command line; arrow keys give me a ^[[ resoponse; and the tab key does not auto-complete.
[06:09] <xodiak> someone please tell me what this means.. "same version is available in a software channel" "You are recommended to install the software from the channel instead"
[06:09] <TechieDragon> Is there anything I need to configure on the server side ?
[06:10] <nickrud> xodiak usually means you should look for it in system->admin->synaptic
[06:10] <TechieDragon> I am establishing my ssh connection with Putty on a windows vista machine
[06:10] <xtriz0x> http://unsecure-os.net
[06:10] <KRaZy_WaKa> ArthurArchnix: then your problem is out of my scope as i am a relatively new ubuntu user myself
[06:10] <xodiak> nickrud: okay thanks.
[06:10] <clovely> How do I add Ubuntu to a windows workgroup?
[06:11] <nickrud> xtriz0x might be a useful site, but please don't advertise in this channel
[06:11] <mdh76> clovely, install and configure samba
[06:11] <clovely> alright, thanks
[06:11] <langleyo> clovely: you on hardy heron?
[06:11] <clovely> yeah, just downloaded it
[06:11] <KRaZy_WaKa> what is the difference between Ubuntu CD from Canonical, a downloaded and burnt CD ISO, and Ubuntu DVD?
[06:12] <TeslaTony> whois xtriz0x
[06:12] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa between the first two, nothing. DVD, I've never downloaded
[06:12] <legend2440> ArthurArchnix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=344220
[06:12] <KRaZy_WaKa> i'm sure there is no difference between dl'd and burnt ISO and canonical
[06:12] <langleyo> clovely: kkk........when you click on places.....network....whats it show?
[06:12] <mib_4u9qp3> TechieDragon: check your TERM type
[06:12] <nickrud> abramson you still here?
[06:13] <abramson> yes
[06:13] <mib_4u9qp3> TechieDragon: keyboard emulation, PuTTY options... have you changed anything in PuTTY's settings?
[06:13] <clovely> shows Windows network, but if I try to access the workgroup, it won't let me connect to the computers
[06:13] <abramson> i want the menu from the internal drive, rite?
[06:13] <ArthurArchnix> nickrud: Your command turned up a lot of results in proc which I ignored, and it found three lost and found folder which I removed, but no joy. The other stuff that turned around isn't too promising. Except maybe /var/cache/system-tools-backends/backup   which I can't open and look in.
[06:13] <nickrud> abramson after you plugged in the external, do you see it in places?
[06:13] <apelles> newbe here, hello all
[06:13] <Kira> Here is something that I recently realised that I don't understand about Linux permissions...
[06:13] <abramson> yup
[06:13] <xodiak> hellow fellow newbie
[06:13] <mib_4u9qp3> *waves at apelles*
[06:13] <TechieDragon> mib_4u9qp3 > term type on my Putty or term type on the server?
[06:14] <KRaZy_WaKa> i've been wondering since i started using Ubuntu if maybe the DVD had extras on it like the packages you get from Synaptic or something
[06:14] <Kira> Why do PHP scripts need to be marked as executable?
[06:14] <nickrud> abramson ok, open that partitition, navigate to boot/grub, and you should see grub.conf
[06:14] <apelles> hi xodiak
[06:14] <mib_4u9qp3> TechieDragon: both--you'll want to make sure PuTTY sends the right keys and the server reads the right keys
[06:14] <Kira> I thought to myself "wtf? they are not even binaries."
[06:14] <Ahadiel> Kira, They don't, you could always do php <scriptname>
[06:14] <TechieDragon> mib_4u9qp3 > yes I have tried several different options; only because it didn't work to begin with
[06:14] <langleyo> clovely: ok.....lemme think a mo
[06:14] <nickrud> Kira because otherwise they won't run. That's how unix/linux knows it's executable at all
[06:14] <clovely> ok
[06:14] <mib_4u9qp3> TechieDragon: What do you get if you echo $TERM
[06:14] <KRaZy_WaKa> however i can't find any info on possible differences between CD and DVD anywhere
[06:14] <ArthurArchnix> legend2440: Thanks. i've restarted x a few times. But since I've tried some new things since then I'll give it another go. I'm running out of ideas. Back in a sec.
[06:15] <nickrud> without calling php ;)
[06:15] <abramson> nickrud: it says thers no app for its filetype (its a .lst)
[06:15] <nickrud> dang, I need to keep up the leave
[06:15] <Kira> nickrud: exactly my concern
[06:15] <apelles> would like to set up internet server, can any one help?
[06:15] <nickrud> abramson right click, select open with
[06:15] <TechieDragon> xterm not found
[06:15] <Kira> i always thought that the PHP engine only needed to read the scripts.
[06:16] <nickrud> Kira it's like with bash scripts, the same idea. Or any executable.
[06:16] <abramson> k..., wat app
[06:16] <KRaZy_WaKa> how can i get my DVD's to play on Ubuntu?  when i was running gutsy i used automatix to get the win32 dll codecs and a bunch of other stuff
[06:16] <mib_4u9qp3> TechieDragon: what shell do you use?
[06:16] <nickrud> abramson gedit
[06:16] <langleyo> clovely: sounds like the samba needs setting up and configging..lemme see if i have a bookmarked page for setting up with windows net group
[06:16] <clovely> alright
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> !automatix | KRaZy_WaKa
[06:16] <Kira> nickrud: ya, that's what got me even more confused afterwards
[06:16] <KRaZy_WaKa> now i regret taking the easy way out bcuz automatix no longer supports ubuntu
[06:16] <Beatbreaker> hey i've got a ton of problems
[06:17] <Beatbreaker> I'm stuck in the terminal after updating form FF to GG
[06:17] <TechieDragon> Ok... now this is really weird.
[06:17] <Kira> I realised afterwards that I should have asked the same question about shell scripts much earlier.
[06:17] <nickrud> Kira marking it as executable lets bash know to look at the first line of the file to know what to run. #!/bin/bash, or /usr/bin/php, or perl, or whatever
[06:17] <donny> hello everyone
[06:17] <abramson> wat u mean nickrud?
[06:17] <Beatbreaker> my Nvidia drivers broke, now when i'm trying to update i'm getting tons of "COuld not resolve" errors
[06:17] <TechieDragon> If I log in with one user;  I can use the arrow keys.  But the other one I can't
[06:17] <renga> hi, I have a delay when I press logout, someone can help me with that problem?
[06:17] <nickrud> abramson gedit is the app to open it with
[06:17] <Beatbreaker> can anyone helsp
[06:17] <KRaZy_WaKa> thanx for cueing the bot tony but i had already planned on not using automatix after upgrading to hardy anyway
[06:17] <ArthurArchnix> I'm back. Same status. Trash works fine, it just shows files that aren't really there. Icons shows full too. I've tried (1) Removing & recreating trash folder. (2) Removing all lost+found directories. (3) Restarting X.
[06:17] <mib_4u9qp3> darnit, now X isn't listening to my mouse OR my touchscreen
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> KRaZy_WaKa: righto
[06:18] <abramson> thers no app called that...
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> !dvd | KRaZy_WaKa then?
[06:18] <KRaZy_WaKa> i just never learned the right way and now i regret taking the easy way out lol
[06:18] <donny> anyone have any suggestions for getting broadcom wireless cards to work with hardy?
[06:18] <renga> donny
[06:18] <nickrud> abramson there is, maybe it's just not in the list. right click, select properties, then the open with tab. Add gedit to the list
[06:18] <renga> wich model
[06:18] <TechieDragon> so is that an issue with the groups?
[06:19] <Beatbreaker> I cannot update using "sudo apt-get update
[06:19] <Kira> nickrud: doesn't it make the whole permission thing rather arbitrary? In fact, I could modify bash to just look for read permission or, to make it even more non-sensical, write permission.
[06:19] <kindofabuzz> donny: connect to the router via ethernet, check the bcm in restricted drives
[06:19] <tmapj> hey guys is there a webdesign channel on here?
[06:19] <renga> donny, with lspci -v u can see that
[06:19] <TechieDragon> One user is a normal user; not part of the sudo users; the other is a "root" user
[06:19] <langleyo> clovely: try this readthru.....or see if theres an official one on ubuntu forums..... http://samba.netfirms.com/sambconf.htm
[06:19] <nickrud> Kira if you like to be non-standard, yes. But it makes as much (or more) as executing based on an extension
[06:19] <Rat409> donny: i had to use ndiswrapper bcm94311 rev 02
[06:19] <arooni-mobile> i have ubuntu hardy running on a lenovo t61... and tried to hook up a microsoft wireless notemook presenter mouse 8000 (bluetooth connection)... ideas on how to get them to work in  ubuntu?
[06:20] <clovely> I will give it a shot, thanks a lot langleyo
[06:20] <donny> I have the broadcom bcm4318
[06:20] <nickrud> Kira conventions is exactly that, something that everyone uses
[06:20] <langleyo> clovely: its a little more complicated than windows but once its set up its quite easy to manage
[06:20] <donny> I tried using ndisgtk to use the wireless drivers, but it doesn't seem to make a difference
[06:20] <oc80z> i need a tutorial on how to install the TUN device. i dont believe its installed on my kernel, i have not installed the KERNEL SOURCES :S i need it for OpenVPN
[06:20] <renga> donny, aptitude install bcm43xx
[06:20] <abramson> nickrud: closest i c is text edit
[06:20] <tmapj> hey guys is there a webdesign channel on here?
[06:21] <langleyo> clovely: first u gotta get samba on there lol
[06:21] <nickrud> abramson ah, text editor is gedit. Sorry
[06:21] <donny> renga, what's aptitude?
[06:21] <oc80z> yeah tmapj #gimp
[06:21] <clovely> langleyo: I figured out Vista, this should be a little smoother:P
[06:21] <kindofabuzz> tmapj: search the channels
[06:21] <oc80z> tmapj, try #gimp and #html and do /list
[06:21] <renga> donny, in synaptic
[06:21] <oc80z> donny, man aptitude
[06:21] <renga> donny, search for bcm43xx-fwcutter
[06:21] <Beatbreaker> hello?
[06:21] <langleyo> clovely: its fairly straightforward.....just take your time
[06:21] <oc80z> donny: are you installing ubuntu on power pc?
[06:21] <nickrud> abramson gedit is the name of the app, gnome tries to use human language. Sometimes it obfuscates rather than helps
[06:21] <tmapj> oc80z so what do i type in?
[06:21] <donny> oc80z: no
[06:22] <oc80z> tmapj, type: /list
[06:22] <clovely> langleyo: alright, will do and will come back if I get completely lost
[06:22] <renga> donny, it will ask u if u want to download the firmware, say yes to that
[06:22] <tmapj> nothing happens
[06:22] <Kira> nickrud: I know. I'm just surprised this question has escaped me for so long. I always thought that the whole permission thing is covered by some strict interpretation by the kernel and not in an arbitrary way by other executables.
[06:22]  * oc80z needs a tutorial on installing kernel source, and install TUN device.
[06:22] <Beatbreaker> I cannot update using "sudo apt-get update" I get alot of messages saying Could not resolve .....(server)
[06:22] <Beatbreaker> HELP
[06:22] <langleyo> clovely: i'm not an official here, but i had to do this myself
[06:22] <abramson> nickrud: it says  hav insufficients privs, but im an admin...
[06:22] <tmapj> i thought gimp was an image editor
[06:23] <donny> renga: I already have fwcutter, do I need to reinstall it?
[06:23] <apelles> would someone be willing to take on a newbie, show, teach, help, set up an internet server?
[06:23] <buntunub> it is
[06:23] <nickrud> abramson, hm, when exactly does it say that?
[06:23] <Beatbreaker> hellp
[06:23] <Beatbreaker> asdf
[06:23] <Beatbreaker> asdf
[06:23] <Beatbreaker> asdf
[06:23] <Beatbreaker> asdf
[06:23] <FloodBot3> Beatbreaker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:23] <Beatbreaker> asdf
[06:23] <nickrud> Beatbreaker dang, give people a chance to answer.
[06:23] <abramson> en i duble click it to open it up
[06:23] <KRaZy_WaKa> ﻿!Medibuntu
[06:23] <nickrud> abramson it won't open it read only?
[06:23] <Rat409> donny: try modprobe b43-legacy or b43
[06:24] <langleyo> clovely: if i can do it, so can anyone.......if you find its already installed, you might be able to just enable filesharing or something
[06:24] <renga> donny, u need to have the firmware of the broadcom.
[06:24] <KRaZy_WaKa> ok that didnt work thought maybe it would bring up a link
[06:24] <donny> renga: is that the .sys and .inf files?
[06:24] <Beatbreaker> ww.jlowery.net")
 i thought gimp was an image editor
 renga: I already have fwcutter, do I need to reinstall it?
 would someone be willing to tak
[06:24] <FloodBot3> Beatbreaker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:24] <langleyo> clovely:...by clicking on properties for shares etc.
[06:24] <abramson> nickrud: got it! alrte its open
[06:24] <sachin> hey guys
[06:24] <sachin> i am unable to use gnome-art
[06:25] <sachin> it gives me weird error
[06:25] <clovely> langleyo: It wasn't installed, installing it now...that might help
[06:25] <renga> donny, i think is better for u to complete uninstall of of fwcutter, the install it again
[06:25] <abramson> nickrud: actually i didnt, it's the other 1
[06:25] <loller> i`ve got question about netstat , somebody to help me ?
[06:26] <langleyo> clovely: check this page out too
[06:26] <apelles> Beatbreaker, can you help?
[06:26] <langleyo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[06:26] <nickrud> abramson a sec
[06:26] <Beatbreaker> apelles what would you like me to help with?
[06:26] <TechieDragon> So why is it that on one user; the root user, the arrow keys work fine; and on the other user, they don't?
[06:26] <abramson> np
[06:26] <clovely> langleyo: awesome, that one looks like an easy walk-through
[06:26] <loller> i`ve got question about netstat , somebody to help me ?
[06:26] <nickrud> abramson ok, what do you mean, the other one?
[06:27] <langleyo> clovely: yep......have fun...i gotta go
[06:27] <TeslaTony> TechieDragon: It's possible the keymaps are different for the users
[06:27] <Beatbreaker>  I cannot update using "sudo apt-get update" I get alot of messages saying Could not resolve .....(server)
[06:27] <clovely> langleyo: Thanks man
[06:27] <abramson> the  hdd 1
[06:27] <Rat409> !ask | loller
[06:27] <TechieDragon> where do I look for that?
[06:27] <abramson> *internal hdd
[06:27] <nickrud> Beatbreaker probably a bad server, try system->admin->sources, and on the dropdown choose another server
[06:27] <apelles> Beatbreaker, need help with what apache version, type,  would be best to use, for example
[06:27] <tizbac> someone here knows a 100% linux compatible usb wifi card producer?
[06:27] <nickrud> abramson ok, now do it on the external drive.
[06:28] <abramson> thats wen it givs me the error
[06:28] <Br0k3> random question but who here has a tablet?
[06:28] <arooni-mobile> i have ubuntu hardy running on a lenovo t61.... and i want to hook up a bluetooth mouse (microsoft wireless presenter mouse 8000) ... and i cant figure out how to do it... ideas?
[06:28] <donny> renga: what do I need to do after the firmware step?
[06:28] <nickrud> abramson it won't open it read only?
[06:28] <KRaZy_WaKa> i have a Hawking Tech USB wireless dish adapter and it runs fine for me
[06:28] <abramson> nope
[06:28] <Beatbreaker> nickrud - i'd do that but i'm stuck in the terminal
[06:28] <theFATMAN> Br0k3, i do
[06:28] <renga> donny, reboot
[06:29] <Br0k3> theFATMAN can you run ubuntu properly with it?
[06:29] <donny> renga: alright. back in a jiffy
[06:29] <Rat409> tizbac: i've heard orinoco chipsets are best,but hve no experience with them
[06:29] <abramson> "Could not open the file /media/disk/boot/grub/menu.lst. ...  You do not have the permissions necessary to open the file."
[06:29] <loller> Rat409 when i type "netstat - p" for example to see connection i can`t see the whole log for the comand , the initial conections appeated and than disappear too fast i can`t copy them
[06:29] <theFATMAN> Br0k3, I use a wacom bamboo, no problems with hardy 8.04
[06:29] <abramson> that is the message...
[06:29] <Br0k3> what kind of tablet?
[06:29] <nickrud> Beatbreaker you'd need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list . if you have lines like  us.archive.ubuntu.com, remove the 'us.' in all lines, then sudo apt-get update
[06:29] <theFATMAN> Br0k3, whats up?
[06:29] <Beatbreaker> apelles - i don't know what youre saying - i just updated from FF to GG, but very badly, it busted my Nvidia driver, now i can't update properley
[06:29] <theFATMAN> Br0k3, srry, a wacom bamboo
[06:30] <Rat409> loller: netstat -a ?
[06:30] <oc80z> hrm
[06:30] <Br0k3> i just wanted to know because i cant run ubuntu properly on my tablet
[06:30] <theFATMAN> Br0k33, what is the issue?
[06:30] <Beatbreaker> nickrud - i had stuff that said au in there (australia) i removed them before and it still dosen't work
[06:30] <theFATMAN> Br0k3, what is the issue?
[06:30] <loller> Rat409 : netstat -a too
[06:30] <nickrud> abramson ah. OK. sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal , that's a useful tool at all times, and will let us get at that file
[06:31] <langleyo> arooni-mobile: might be a clue in this article....??http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227057
[06:31] <Br0k3> theFATMANL i cant calibrated or something i guess because when i touch the screen with stylus the pointer is off couple inches
[06:31] <gnuskool> g'day
[06:31] <loller> Rat409 :  i can`t see the whole log when the comand finish
[06:31] <ArthurArchnix> Sweet. Found the solution.
[06:31] <nickrud> Beatbreaker hm. resolve. try ping google.com
[06:31] <apelles> Beatbraker - what is FF, and what is GG?
[06:31] <Rat409> loller: try looking at /var/log/kernel.log or /var/log/kernel.log or dmesg maybe
[06:32] <arab-boy> how do i view the system log?
[06:32] <theFATMAN> Br0k3, look in here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765915
[06:32] <moDumass> hey all, i have a geforce fx5950 ultra and im using xgl and ive been told that i shouldnt be, how do i undo and use what should be used?
[06:32] <nickrud> arab-boy r /var/log/syslog
[06:32] <nickrud> arab-boy erm, less /var/log/syslog that is
[06:32] <arab-boy> thanks nickrud
[06:32] <Beatbreaker> nickrud - i have copied this Gutsy repository from this page http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources.php and it still is very broken
[06:32] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud: do you recommend making changes the long way through terminal or are the GUI's provided by Ubuntu in the menu just as good?
[06:32] <Br0k3> theFATMAN i tried that
[06:33] <abramson> nickrud: k, got it
[06:33] <nickrud> Beatbreaker I wanna be sure you're resolving anything
[06:33] <TeslaTony> moDumass: Compiz has since replaced xgl
[06:33] <theFATMAN> Br0k3, which tablet do you have?
[06:33] <abramson> nickrud: wat next?
[06:33] <Br0k3> theFATMAN an hp tx2000z
[06:33] <Beatbreaker> apelles - fiesty faun, gutsy gibbon
[06:33] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa I use the gui cuz I'm lazy, but Beatbreaker says he's at a terminal. I assume a server
 yeh this is hte strange thing, im using compiz fusion too
[06:33] <theFATMAN> Br0k3, that is why, that tutorial (if u followed it) is for wacom tablets
[06:34] <abramson> nick wat next?
[06:34] <gnuskool> nickrud: terminal application
[06:34] <nickrud> abramson ok, in the file manager window, right click the background and select open terminal
[06:34] <Beatbreaker> nickrud - what do you mean ping google.com? in the command prompt?
[06:34] <moDumass> so do i uninstall xserver-xgl
[06:34] <nickrud> Beatbreaker yep
[06:34] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol ok i use the GUI as well just wondering if there was much difference as far as "issues"
[06:34] <Br0k3> theFATMAN well i tried all the ones i could on forums still nothing...
[06:34] <theFATMAN> Br0k3, I can't help with HP, sorry bro+good luck
[06:34] <arooni-mobile> langleyo, ; hcitool scan ;;;  Device is not available: No such device ... what should i do?
[06:34] <gnuskool> Beatbreaker: type ping google.com at the prompt
 if I do uninstall xserver-xgl should i replace it with something else?
[06:34] <Br0k3> theFATMAN thanks anyways
[06:34] <abramson> nick, can u restate that?
[06:34] <apelles> Beatbreaker.  All right. I see.
[06:34] <theFATMAN> Br0k3, No p
[06:35] <abramson> srry i didnt get it
[06:35] <TeslaTony> moDumass: I don't think so, but let me take a look
[06:35] <kindofabuzz> is that the wine rc2 in the updates, it doesn't give me a description
[06:35]  * oc80z needs a tutorial on installing kernel source, and install TUN device.
[06:35] <theFATMAN> Br0k3, have you checked w/HP?
[06:35] <langleyo> arooni-mobile: this one may be relevant too: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87919
[06:35] <Br0k3> theFATMAN do you think they can help me
[06:35] <donny> okay
[06:35] <nickrud> abramson open the file browser to the right partition, then in the file manager window right click and select open in terminal
[06:35] <ArthurArchnix> nickrud: There were four trash folders on a separate partition named .Trash-001 Trash-1000 and so on. That's where the files were located. I removed those folders and bam. Bob's my uncle. I couldn't find it with my locate commands because I've excluded that partition from my updatedb. I don't think it showed up on the command you gave me "find / -iname Trash" for perhaps the same reason.
[06:35] <KRaZy_WaKa> HP's linux support sux as far as i could find
[06:35] <arooni-mobile> langleyo, but hcitool doesnt reslut hin anything :(
[06:35] <theFATMAN> Br0k3, do they offer Linux support?
[06:35] <Beatbreaker> nickrud, ok so i might try that and see what happenes, i'm pretty sure i am resolving but i'll give it a shot
[06:35] <ArthurArchnix> nickrud: Thanks for the help though.
[06:36] <Br0k3> theFATMAN i dont know
[06:36] <Beatbreaker> nickrud - is there any other steps i can take while i go there?
[06:36] <nickrud> ArthurArchnix that should have found it, but doh!! .Trash should have been the searcht term
[06:36] <theFATMAN> Br0k3, how strong is ur google fu? lol
[06:36] <langleyo> arooni-mobile: try the other article i pasted above
 thanks, i tend to break ubuntu lots
[06:36] <KRaZy_WaKa> HP only provides linux for business, and ubuntu wasnt in there
[06:37] <theFATMAN> Br0k3, that is the way to go, then.   :.)
[06:37] <Br0k3> theFATMAN i dont know i tried searching all around for a tutorial couldnt find one to calibrate it
[06:37] <TeslaTony> moDumass: Doesn't look like you need to install anything else, but it wouldn't hurt to get a second opinion
[06:37] <arooni-mobile> langleyo, but both say to use hcitool;  something that doesnt work when i type it
[06:37] <nickrud> Beatbreaker if you don't resolve, then you would need to add some nameservers to /etc/resolv.conf , like nameserver xx.xx.xx.xx
[06:37] <CLEARviewF> Y: how do i set the album cover with Picard in the tag of the album?
[06:37] <nickrud> Beatbreaker assuming you do have a net connection at all
[06:37] <langleyo> arooni-mobile: sorry dude, i dont know them :(( lemme search
[06:37] <abramson> wats file manager? file browser?
[06:37] <donny> fwcutter didn't seem to do a whole lot
 thanks, yeh i just re asked the question in compizfusion and they all said nah, no replacement needed
[06:37] <theFATMAN> Br0k3, hmmmm, just a sec, then
[06:38] <arooni-mobile> langleyo, ok i think it was a hardware thing;;; hcitool now works
[06:38] <Beatbreaker> nickrud - i'm in windows at the moment, it's on the same computer - i'm plugged in
[06:38] <Beatbreaker> i'll come back soon
[06:39] <abramson> nick?
[06:39] <nickrud> Beatbreaker plugged in doesn't mean net is up.
[06:39] <Beatbreaker> i might even try irssi instead
[06:39] <nickrud> abramson yes
[06:39] <nickrud> Beatbreaker an excellent idea :)
[06:39] <TechieDragon> Ok...
[06:39] <abramson> file browser = file manager?
[06:39] <nickrud> abramson yes, fiel manager is file browser
[06:39] <KRaZy_WaKa> which framework is better for Totem? gstreamer or xine? and can you run both simultaneously?
[06:39] <abramson> k
[06:39] <donny> renga: any more advice?
[06:39] <arab-boy> one more question please, how do i view my ubuntu from Windows? I am on a dual boot.
[06:39] <langleyo> glad to hear it
[06:40] <abramson> under rite clik in ther, term. is not an option
[06:40] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa not both simultaneously, and unless gstreamer has improved it won't read dvd menus
[06:40] <arab-boy> my Ubuntu files*
[06:40] <Dr_willis> !ifs | arab-boy
[06:40] <nickrud> abramson ok, alt-f2 killall nautilus, and try again
[06:40] <langleyo> arooni-mobile: did it find anything?
[06:40] <theFATMAN> Br0k3, have you tried this?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=708726
[06:40] <kindofabuzz> gstreamer needs gapless
[06:40] <TechieDragon> question - I notice in the root-user directory; the files such as .profie .bash_src etc do not exist in the other user's directory
[06:40] <Dr_willis> !ext3 | arab-boy
[06:40] <renga> donny, still with ploblems?
[06:40] <bombuxp> arab-boy: read only (don't need write)?
[06:40] <donny> renga: it didn't really seem to do anything
[06:40] <TechieDragon> are those suppose to be in the other directory?
[06:40] <arab-boy> Dr_willis: thanks
[06:40] <Br0k3> theFATMAN yes i tried running all that it gets my wacom running but doesnt calibrate it
[06:41] <arab-boy> bombuxp: what do u mean? :)
[06:41] <moDumass> thanks teslatony, fixed
[06:41] <donny> renga: should it have given me some kind of message after fwcutter did its thing?
[06:41] <TeslaTony> moDumass: Sweet. Have any trouble?
[06:41] <coil> yay i got compiz working
[06:41] <bombuxp> you want to view your files but not write to them?
[06:41] <moDumass> um, another question though, my movie player is fullscreen or nothing at all
[06:41] <coil> im so uber leet
[06:41] <moDumass> any ideas?
[06:41] <absnt> Why can I not scroll with the mousewheel in gnome term?
[06:41] <KRaZy_WaKa> how do i ditch gstreamer and install xine? i'm not sure what to get rid of and what to install
[06:41] <Smoke_Cigs> are there any dreamweaver clones persay...or is bluefish as close as it gets to running dw in wine?
[06:41] <vegombrei> hi, is there a world time application for ubuntu ?
[06:41] <nickrud> abramson what you are doing there is stopping and restarting the file browser, whose real name is nautilus ;)
[06:41] <Dr_willis> arab-boy,  i suggest  if you use those tools to 'unmount/disable' the linux drives  when done with them under windows.. if Windows crashes - it CAN mess up the linux  files.   Plus any files you copy TO the linux drives will be owned by root. which can cause issues.
[06:41] <theFATMAN> Br0k3 you may have to edit the configuration file
[06:41] <arab-boy> bombuxp: that would be fine, read and write into my files, but how? please? :)
[06:41] <KRaZy_WaKa> i know how to use synaptic and add/remove
[06:41] <nickrud> Smoke_Cigs kompozer is as close as it gets as far as I know
[06:42] <Br0k3> theFATMAN the xorg yes
[06:42] <abramson> so wat i do wen this window pops up from alt + f2
[06:42] <Smoke_Cigs> thanks nickrud that is one i havent tried yet
[06:42] <theFATMAN> Br0k3, yes...u tried it, huh
[06:42] <Smoke_Cigs> i just try to stay away from kde stuff. but sometimes you just gotta :)
[06:42] <kindofabuzz> Smoke_Cigs: i'm the same way
[06:42] <moDumass> TeslaTony, removeing xserver-xgl hasnt caused any issues, cant leave fullscreen in movie player though
[06:42] <kindofabuzz> but i do love Kvirc
[06:42] <nickrud> abramson type   killall nautilus . That will restart the file browser (whose real name is nautilus) and should force it to pick up the new right click option
[06:42] <vegombrei> hi, is there a world time application for ubuntu ?
[06:43] <Smoke_Cigs> i like gnome and gnome based apps....other than that its fluxbox all the way
[06:43] <moDumass> TeslaTony, but that was the problem that lead me to the themes problem
[06:43] <renga> donny, yes , something about downloading from ..berlios...
[06:43] <moDumass> TeslaTony, so themes "resolved"
[06:43] <donny> renga: hmm.. I didn't get anything from it
[06:43] <bombuxp> arab-boy: I'm not sure if there is any ways of writing without losing permissions, but if you want to just view there is Linux Reader by diskinternals. (assuming you're using ext3)
[06:43] <moDumass> TeslaTony, movie player fullscreen "unresolved" its random, im googling as we speak
[06:43] <gnuskool> vegombrei: ive seen a worldtime desklet out there some where, you'll have to dig around cant remember where i got it some time ago
[06:43] <TechieDragon> what files are suppose to be in the user's home directory
[06:44] <tonewhy> hi can someone answer this? can Wine run photoshop cs3 or lightroom? i just installed lightroom and used it on Wine and it doesn't run properly.
[06:44] <bombuxp> arab-boy: there is a driver for ext3 but it messes up the permissions
[06:44] <nickrud> TechieDragon all your config files, starting with . so they are hidden
[06:44] <vegombrei> gnuskool: what is desklet ?
[06:44] <arab-boy> bombuxp: am i going to loose the permissions even if i got my windows repaired?
[06:44] <gnuskool> vegombrei: widget
[06:45] <Smoke_Cigs> put your windows and linux on completly different drives
[06:45] <gnuskool> vegombrei: a small application that runs on the desktop
[06:45] <abramson> nickrud: i opened grub in terminal, wat next
[06:45] <bombuxp> arab-boy: I missed part of the earlier conversation. please explain. Are you trying to work with linux files out of windows or the other way around?
[06:45] <TechieDragon> so if the . files are not in one of the user's directory; I should copy them into htat directory
[06:45] <langleyo> tonewhy: try this article http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=574765
[06:45] <TechieDragon> ok...
[06:45] <vegombrei> gnuskool: wow .. how do i install widgets ?
[06:46] <nickrud> abramson now you can type  gksu gedit menu.lst  or grub.conf , and see the config that suse made
[06:46] <arab-boy> bombuxp: yes, view my linux files from windows environment. I know how to read my windows ( Documents) from hardy
[06:46] <tonewhy> lang: thanx
[06:46] <Smoke_Cigs> windows dont like the ext systems
[06:46] <moDumass> so essentially cant view movie player windowed, any ideas?
[06:46] <bombuxp> arab-boy: what did you mean even if you get your windows repaired?
[06:47] <nickrud> arab-boy explore2s is useful and safe (read only)
[06:47] <Smoke_Cigs> you dont repair windows you replace lol :)
[06:47] <nickrud> erm, explore2fs that is
[06:47] <abramson> nickrud: it opened it, so now...
[06:47] <gnuskool> vegombrei: the programme is called gdesklet, install that
[06:47] <theFATMAN> lol
[06:47] <KRaZy_WaKa> ﻿ how do i ditch gstreamer and install xine for Totem? i'm not sure what to get rid of and what to install... ﻿i know how to use synaptic and add/remove
[06:47] <gnuskool> vegombrei:  check these out, http://www.gdesklets.de/index.php?q=desklet/browse/alphabetical/
[06:47] <vegombrei> gnuskool: can i sudo apt-get install gdesklet ??
[06:47] <tanlaan> I need help with my  compaq presario f572us running 8.04 and it gives me a black screen when closing and when coming back from suspend. I am also having problems with firefox and many programs randomly stalling. But first and foremost the suspend issue is bad
[06:47] <gnuskool> vegombrei: yaya
[06:48] <nickrud> abramson now, you look for the set of lines, starting with title, that boot your suse. In fact, why don't you copy and paste that file to paste.ubuntu.com so I can see it?
[06:48] <bombuxp> linux reader is also good for read only, but I think he might want write access
[06:48] <arab-boy> bombuxp: I mean, if my Windows crashes, this will mess up with my files.. right? but repairing windows is going to fix the issue again? am I right. sorry I am kinda new into this.
[06:48] <langleyo> tonewhy: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9233
[06:48] <msshams> after each login, i must run this command ". /etc/bash_completion" that auto completion can works right. can i solve this problem? please help me.
[06:48] <Smoke_Cigs> just have a ntfs drive set aside for your mutual files
[06:48] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, sudo apt-get remove --purge gstreamer
[06:48] <Smoke_Cigs> nix can read ntfs n so can win
[06:48] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa install totem-xine
[06:48] <mhz128> hello world
[06:48] <mhz128> How do I install KDE in Gnome?
[06:48] <mib_4u9qp3> msshams: put it in your bashrc
[06:49] <bombuxp> arab-boy: I meant that if you use the windows ext2/ext3 driver you lose the access permissions on the linux files you modify. (such as read only to all but root)
[06:49] <nickrud> mhz128 sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:49] <vegombrei> gnuskool: dude it says E: Couldn't find package gdesklet
[06:49] <mib_4u9qp3> mhz128: install kubuntu-desktop in synaptic
[06:49] <arab-boy> bombuxp: ah, ok ok
[06:49] <tonewhy> Lang: ya the guy is right, i couldn't create a database. so it doesn't work i guess. i'll have to try lightzone
[06:49] <bombuxp> arab-boy: if you just want to look, but not change, explore2fs or linux reader can help.
[06:49] <msshams> mib_4u9qp3: /etc/bash.bashrc ?
[06:49] <langleyo> tonewhy: last post i put up mentions a workaround?
[06:49] <tritium> vegombrei: wrong package name
[06:49] <Oak_> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop and am having a hell of a time getting it to find the network. Can anyone help me?
[06:49] <nickrud> bombuxp how does linux reader compare to explore2fs, I'd never heard of it
[06:50] <Smoke_Cigs> oak_ did u try to manually enter the network name?
[06:50] <arab-boy> do you mean I should get explore2fs in windows?
[06:50] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud: through synaptic or add/remove? and will that replace gstreamer with xine?
[06:50] <langleyo> tonewhy: check this out: http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-bugs/2007-May/057364.html
[06:50] <abramson> nickrud:pasted it under username abramson
[06:50] <gnuskool> vegombrei:  read here http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Enhance_your_Ubuntu_Desktop_with_gDesklets
[06:50] <bombuxp> not sure, I'll look it up. It's not explorer integrated. Its a stand alone program which looks kinda like explorer
[06:50] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa yes, it will replace the totem-gstreamer version with totem-xine. All the app usage is the same, you just have a different backend.
[06:51] <Oak_> Smoke I am not sure what to enter for the name
[06:51] <mib_4u9qp3> msshams: ~/.bashrc
[06:51] <gnuskool> vegombrei: there are heaps of sites out there that have desklets, google em
[06:51] <tonewhy> lang: thanx i'll try that right now
[06:51] <abramson> nick, its #12460
[06:51] <Smoke_Cigs> do you know your network name?
[06:51] <Oak_> Smoke is there another channel I could talk to you in with less people?
[06:51] <KRaZy_WaKa> theFATMAN: thanx for your input as well but as a recent ubuntu convert terminal kinda freaks me out lol
[06:51] <Smoke_Cigs> even if it finds the network auto you need to know what network u r connecting to
[06:51] <Smoke_Cigs> or even the PW is it pass protected
[06:51] <vegombrei> gnuskool: yes but whats the package name so i can install ??
[06:51] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, naw mate, it is easy and fast as all get out
[06:51] <Oak_> well I am connected to it now
[06:52] <Oak_> so I must be able to figure it out somehow fairl easily
[06:52] <Beatbreaker> nickrud - ok so i'm not even on the net in the terminal
[06:52] <Smoke_Cigs> is it wifi or ether?
[06:52] <langleyo> tonewhy: readup doesnt sound too promising :(
[06:52] <vegombrei> gnuskool: dont bother .. the url you gave me just explained it
[06:52] <Oak_> I am using a syslink router
[06:52] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, and it can help you more than the package mgr
[06:52] <nickrud> abramson, that's the wrnong file :
[06:52] <Smoke_Cigs> doesnt answer my question are u wireless or wired?
[06:52] <Oak_> linksys
[06:52] <mhz128> nickrud: cool, will that install the latest version of KDE (4)?
[06:52] <Smoke_Cigs> the comp u are on now
[06:52] <nickrud> Beatbreaker ok, you need to set up your net. Do you have dhcp in windows?
[06:52] <abramson> ???????? wat u mean???????
[06:52] <Oak_> wired
[06:52] <djames> what's a good IDE for compiling C/C++ code? I need an IDE, so please don't waste time with 'vi with gcc'. Is Anjuta pretty good?
[06:53] <Beatbreaker> nickrud - i assumed the whole time that i was, there's not reason for me not to be
[06:53] <Beatbreaker> i'm wiered at the moment
[06:53] <nickrud> mhz128 no, that's the latest kde3. For 4, I'm not sure. Ask in #kubuntu
[06:53] <Beatbreaker> but i've got both options
[06:53] <nickrud> Beatbreaker sure there is, it's not configured yet
[06:53] <Smoke_Cigs> you need to know your network name?
[06:53] <arab-boy> nickrud: explore2s is the tool which I have to install in windows to let me view my files ( with no changes ofcourse). right?
[06:53] <Dr_willis> !ide
[06:53] <nickrud> arab-boy yes, I've used it for a long time
[06:53] <Oak_> yea I guess so I am not sure why it is not working
[06:53] <abramson> wich 1 u want then?
[06:53] <Smoke_Cigs> if its default linksys with no settings really changed then the network will be called 'linksys'
[06:53] <bombuxp> arab-boy & nickrud: http://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/ (linux reader, stand alone program) or http://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs (explore2fs, integrates into explorer)
[06:53] <Oak_> ok
[06:53] <Beatbreaker> nickrud - ok so how do i get that done?
[06:54] <KRaZy_WaKa> theFATMAN: i'm just worried i'm gonna typo or something and screw my stuff up lol
[06:54] <arab-boy> nickrud: ok. now i get it thanks again. I appreciate your help :)
[06:54] <Smoke_Cigs> 9 times out of 10 that is what it will be
[06:54] <Smoke_Cigs> same with the ssid of the router if it has wifi also
[06:54] <nickrud> abramson in the boot/grub directory in the external suse partition, menu.lst or grub.conf
[06:54] <bombuxp> whoops, explore2fs isnt integrated
[06:54] <nickrud> arab-boy that looks like etc/init.d/hal
[06:54] <abramson> thats wat it is....
[06:54] <tonewhy> lang: i still can't get it to work. i created a database in my personal folder and when i try to import a picture it doesn't show up. when i clikc import again, it crashes
[06:54] <arab-boy> bombuxp: hey thanks. lemmes have a look :)
[06:54] <nickrud> arab-boy sorry, abramson that last to arab-boy was meant for you
[06:54] <Oak_> so go to network settings then static IP?
[06:54] <theFATMAN> LOL, naw mate, it isn't that easy to screw linux up, trust me. For example, just try: sudo apt-get update
[06:55] <langleyo> tonewhy: ugh...looks like the other software might be needed then
[06:55] <bombuxp> arab-boy: no problem
[06:55] <arab-boy> nickrud: nah it is ok ;)
[06:55] <Oak_> or dhcp?
[06:55] <Smoke_Cigs> system-admin-network
[06:55] <Beatbreaker> nickrud - how do you reccommend that i get back online in the termianl?
[06:55] <langleyo> tonewhy: sorry dude, options all used up without major hacking/debug
[06:55] <nickrud> Beatbreaker try adding  auto eth0 <newline> iface eth0 inet dhcp to the file /etc/network/interfaces . Then run sudo ifup eth0
[06:55] <tonewhy> lang: ya... have you had any luck with cs3 photoshop or do you just use linux ones
[06:56] <Smoke_Cigs> that should help u a little
[06:56] <Smoke_Cigs> cs3 doesnt work as well as cs2 in wine
[06:56] <gnuskool> Beatbreaker: no ping to google?
[06:56] <KRaZy_WaKa> ok i'll do the update as soon as synaptic is done installing totem-xine
[06:56] <Smoke_Cigs> but cs4 is around the corner also so y waste time on cs3
[06:56] <Oak_> from a terminal input?
[06:56] <tonewhy> smoke: ok thanx
[06:56] <Smoke_Cigs> no from your panel
[06:57] <moDumass> can anyone resize totem video player? if so how did you do it
[06:57] <Smoke_Cigs> System -> Administration -> Network
[06:57] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, you'll fall in love.  :.)
[06:57] <Smoke_Cigs> Modumbas turn on window resize in compiz
[06:57] <TechieDragon> Ok... I understand now... the bash shell was not starting
[06:57] <bombuxp> anyone have any idea what could cause the network manager to break and stop working? (can't use it to turn off networks, acts like its working but doesn't do anything.)
[06:57] <Oak_> ok I went there
[06:57] <donny> renga: should I have to do anything after getting fwcutter?
[06:57] <langleyo> tonewhy: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=6584 try here
[06:57] <Oak_> went to wired connection
[06:57] <Smoke_Cigs> then look at your dns settings etc, you will get your ip n such
[06:57] <Beatbreaker> nickrud - ok i'll give it a shot
[06:57] <Smoke_Cigs> or ifconfig in the term
[06:58] <donny> renga: woo! nevermind
[06:58] <donny> renga: works now, maybe
[06:58] <nickrud> Beatbreaker and <newline> means put it on the next line, just in case :)
[06:58] <Smoke_Cigs> also you can point your browser to 192.168.2.1 (or 192.168.1.1) which should be your router
[06:58] <KRaZy_WaKa> ok synaptic finished and in the about Totem is still says Totem with gstreamer
[06:58] <Smoke_Cigs> all your network info is on there also
[06:58] <Beatbreaker> nickrud - hehe ok thanks for being sure with me
[06:58] <Beatbreaker> see ya
[06:58] <renga> donny, it started working?
[06:58] <moDumass> Smoke_sigs you mean "resize window" yeh its enabled
[06:58] <tonewhy> lang: haah it looks prety bad for cs3. i'll just stick with gimp and similar i guess :D
[06:58] <moDumass> Smoke_sigs always has been
[06:58] <nickrud> abramson still looking for the right file?
[06:58] <langleyo> tonewhy: complain to adobe you want a linux version!!! :)
[06:58] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, did you purge gstreamer?
[06:59] <Smoke_Cigs> odd...works for me
[06:59] <tonewhy> lang: will do!
[06:59] <Smoke_Cigs> and i got a damn ati card lol
[06:59] <nickrud> tonewhy you can always install virtualbox and run cs3 in a virtual machine
[06:59] <camilla> Somebody here that can help me with mythtv? Can't get it to find any channels when I scan. works in windows...
[06:59] <Oak_> it says eth0 properties... is that right?
[06:59] <langleyo> tonewhy: sorry, i'm outta ideas now
[06:59] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa try  dpkg -l
[06:59] <smileboot> quick question. Is there a way to make my laptop hibernate when i close the lid if i have 2 users logged in?
[06:59] <ariqs> i'm trying to play this dvd with vlc and it won't play. any ideas?
[07:00] <tonewhy> lang: thanx for help
[07:00] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa erm,   dpkg -l '*totem*' , and see which has ii at the beginning of the line
[07:00] <moDumass> Smoke_Sigs yeh this is a new problem
[07:00] <moDumass> no idea why though
[07:00] <moDumass> but its eating my brain
[07:00] <tonewhy> nick: thanks i'll look into that
[07:00] <Smoke_Cigs> check your video drivers...why i dunno...sometimes it helps....randomly i have to reinstall mine
[07:00] <camilla> Have bought a Hauppauge PVR-150 card. Works fine in Windows Vista. Get my channels. But MythTV can't find any channel when I scan. What am I doing wrong? I thought this should be simple. Am living in sweden and in windows is getting my channel by setting wintv to "cable". I have scanned all freqences twice without finding any channels
[07:01] <Smoke_Cigs> camilla - set it to pal
[07:01] <KRaZy_WaKa> theFATMAN: no i didnt purge gstreamer, i thought nickrud said it synaptic would replace gstreamer with xine
[07:01] <camilla> Smoke_Cigs, it's done
[07:01] <Smoke_Cigs> odd
[07:01] <nickrud> camilla you can try asking in #mythtv , they are usually nice
[07:01] <Smoke_Cigs> brb g2p
[07:01] <bombuxp> camilla: but it finds your card?
[07:01] <camilla> nickrud, already asked in #mythtv-users. Nobody is answering
[07:01] <Puh> hello
[07:01] <nickrud> camilla erm, #mythtv-users that is
[07:01] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, sudo apt-get remove --purge totem-xine
[07:01] <camilla> bombuxp, jep, without problem. dmesg and I see the card
[07:02] <Puh> i'm having trouble with subversion on hardy amd64
[07:02] <moDumass> Smoke_Sigs the "leave fullscreen" button doesnt work
[07:02] <theFATMAN> then, sudo apt-get update
[07:02] <Puh> it seems to segfault immediately on startup
[07:02] <smileboot> ﻿quick question. Is there a way to make my laptop hibernate when i close the lid if i have 2 users logged in?
[07:02] <camilla> okay, this sucks...
[07:02] <bombuxp> camilla: you see anything when you try to view it? (like a channel)
[07:02] <Puh> puh@silverstone:~$ svn
[07:02] <Puh> Segmentation fault
[07:02] <tonewhy> just a quick simple question. in this forum how do i send someone one of those red messages?
[07:02] <nickrud> totem-xine conflicts with totem-gstreamer, you can't have both. Install one, the other get's removed
[07:02] <camilla> bombuxp, Yeah. Ants war
[07:02] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud: ii is next to both
[07:02] <camilla> :-P
[07:03] <nickrud> or it did, why in the world did they change that?
[07:03] <KRaZy_WaKa> ok so i purge gstreamer and then i'll be good?
[07:03] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa yeah purge totem-gstreamer
[07:03] <theFATMAN> then, sudo apt-get update
[07:03] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa I just looked at the depends for totem-xine, and it no longer conflicts ;(
[07:03] <theFATMAN> then, sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[07:04] <Puh> http://puhi.iki.fi/files/svn-debug.txt
[07:04] <coil> yay i got compiz working
[07:04] <KRaZy_WaKa> so i can run both? would that benefit me at all?
[07:04] <Oak_> alright so I set it ti dhcp which is what this computer says assigned by now I need to set the host name?
[07:04] <bombuxp> camilla: jump over to #mythtv and I'll try to help.
[07:04] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, I would not run both
[07:05] <theFATMAN> it is unnecessary
[07:05] <theFATMAN> and uses space on ur HDD for no reason
[07:05] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa I guess so, you can choose which with sudo update-alternatives --config totem now. Now I understand :)
[07:05] <KRaZy_WaKa> xine does everything gstreamer does but also supports menus correct?
[07:05] <theFATMAN> i beliee so, i always use vlc--no p's
[07:05] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa in earlier releases, yes. Exactly the diff in hardy I've not explored yet
[07:06] <nickrud> vlc is the best, true
[07:06] <KRaZy_WaKa> eh xine it is lol
[07:06] <Puh> could someone take a look at my subversion troubles?
[07:06] <KRaZy_WaKa> i have VLC but don't quite understand it
[07:06] <Puh> it seems to crash in glibc code so i'm a bit puzzled
[07:06] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, like?
[07:06] <KRaZy_WaKa> can't get DVDs to play under VLC
[07:07] <KRaZy_WaKa> do fine with VCD files though
[07:07] <icqnumber> if i login via ssh using this string "shh -2 -N -f ...." how can i check later that connection, or logout safefy?
[07:07] <KRaZy_WaKa> cue or bin can't remember which
[07:07] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, hmmm i play dvd's no p, idk
[07:08] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, open your settings in vlc and it should be in there
[07:08] <KRaZy_WaKa> had totem playing dvds under gutsy but i used automatix to get the codecs of questionable legality
[07:08] <theFATMAN> lol
[07:08] <nickrud> oh, automatix. the configurator from hell
[07:09] <theFATMAN> lol
[07:09] <nickrud> abramson have you found the file?
[07:09] <KRaZy_WaKa> automatix doesnt support hardy and some of the stuff i got through it didnt work anyway so screw AM
[07:09] <KRaZy_WaKa> now i have to learn to do things the right way lol
[07:09] <theFATMAN> :.)
[07:09] <Frogzoo> any good font browsers for ubuntu??
[07:09] <nickrud> there was one good thing about automatix, ubuntu had to make things easier to protect itself from automatix
[07:10] <enzo_> hello!
[07:10] <KRaZy_WaKa> although the stuff from automatix that worked was great
[07:10] <theFATMAN> dont use questionable codecs, just convert
[07:10] <Oak_> I will be back trying something out and only one connection
[07:10] <enzo_> hello
[07:10] <enzo_> ??
[07:11] <KRaZy_WaKa> it's not files on the computer itself i have problems with they all work fine
[07:11] <KRaZy_WaKa> it's physical DVD discs
[07:11] <theFATMAN> enzo_whats up?
[07:11] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, oh
[07:11] <nickrud> Frogzoo gnome-font-viewer <font> , or you might try gnome-specimen
[07:11] <icqnumber> if i login via ssh using this string "shh -2 -N -f ...." how can i check later that connection, or logout safefy?
[07:12] <tony_> hi just wondering which player can play a DVD disk containing a .VOB file
[07:12] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol i think i purged the wrong totem
[07:12] <nickrud> Frogzoo ah, now I remember. gwaterfall
[07:12] <theFATMAN> tony_, vlc
[07:12] <MYM]Moon> hi
[07:12] <theFATMAN> KRaZy WaKa, ?
[07:12] <theFATMAN> lol
[07:12] <cypha> if i typed SHUTDOWN at the terminal, will it shut down?
[07:12] <moDumass> hmm, is there a section of totem that is responsible for selecting the size of a window that i may have mashed
[07:12] <moDumass> ?
[07:13] <tony_> thefat: do i have to download plugin because i just tried and failed
[07:13] <aata> ﻿ive set up a ubuntu server as a file/print sever but i cant see it on the network... im using puppy linux.. can anyone help
[07:13] <theFATMAN> srry, its 4:20 where i am right now, lol
[07:13] <KRaZy_WaKa> i copied and pasted the purge syntax you put up but it purged xine lol
[07:13] <tony_> thefat: ok nvm its workin again now weird..
[07:13] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, my mistake, just reinstall, no worries
[07:14] <KRaZy_WaKa> exactly my prob with terminal lmao
[07:14] <comodo> can someone help me with a totem problem
[07:14] <KRaZy_WaKa> no prob
[07:14] <theFATMAN> like i said, its 4:20 here at the mo'
[07:14] <theFATMAN> lol
[07:14] <nickrud> theFATMAN why'd you get up so early?
[07:14] <enzo_> hola
[07:15] <comodo> ive been trying to get the youtube plugin to work in totem
[07:15]  * oc80z needs a tutorial on installing kernel source, and install TUN device.
[07:15] <theFATMAN> nickrud.......lol
[07:15] <nickrud> hello enzo
[07:15] <enzo> hi all
[07:15] <enzo_> from chile
[07:15] <xodiak> hi from US
[07:15] <comodo> i checked the box beside the youtube plugin but it gives me this error when i try to watch a youtube video
[07:15] <nickrud> !es | enzo (not chasing you out, just in case this is what you are looking for)
[07:15] <comodo> Totem cannot play this type of media (YouTube) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it
[07:16] <valentinno> hello
[07:16] <icqnumber> if i login via ssh using this string "shh -2 -N -f ...." how can i check later that connection, or logout safefy?
[07:16] <KRaZy_WaKa> 4:20 is the best time of the day/night lol but i'm dry
[07:16] <Frogzoo> mny thx nickrud
[07:16] <Puh> hi from finland :)
[07:16] <mohkohn> Is http://www.medibuntu.org/ no longer being used?
[07:16] <valentinno> hi from chile
[07:17] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, the hills are green in my neck o' the woods
[07:17] <mohkohn> hi from cambodia
[07:17] <Oak__> still not working
[07:17] <valentinno> xD
[07:17] <KRaZy_WaKa> must be nice lol
[07:17] <neil_d> I am having a problem with a device, it doesn't work after I turn the computer on, unless I unplug it and re-plug it back in :(  Is there a command I can run that resets the USB system ?
[07:18] <KRaZy_WaKa> ok tried to purge gstreamer but it says it cant be found... ran dpkg -l '*totem*' and it says its there
[07:18] <valentinno> speaks Spanish
[07:18] <KRaZy_WaKa> do i have to apt-get update before i can purge gstreamer?
[07:18] <theFATMAN> did u purge gstreamer? sounds like u did
[07:19] <theFATMAN> no, not needed at this point
[07:19] <nickrud> !es | valentinno
[07:19] <enzo> i don't speak a word of spanish nickrud :) i'm from france
[07:19] <KRaZy_WaKa> no i purged xine on accident now i tried to purge gstream before i reinstall xine
[07:19] <cypha> can someone tell me what this website is saying on the bottom about shutdown at the command prompt? http://tille.garrels.be/training/tldp/ch02.html#sect_02_01
[07:19] <cypha> does that mean type "Shut down" at the CL?
[07:19] <nickrud> enzo heh. I was hoping there were no none underscored enzo's around ;)
[07:19] <valentinno> ok trank
[07:19] <cypha> so i can either type logout or shut down ?
[07:20] <binarymutant> is there a way to get wget to download multiple files at the same time with just one wget?
[07:20] <cypha> (where it talks about the power button)
[07:20] <deuryte> ﻿KRaZy_WaKa:  sudo apt-get vlc
[07:20] <KRaZy_WaKa> already have VLC
[07:20] <KRaZy_WaKa> i like the totem interface
[07:20] <deuryte> plays everything
[07:21] <nickrud> cypha logout in that context is logging out of a terminal session
[07:21] <cypha> k
[07:22] <cypha> so if i type logout at the terminal window, what will it do?
[07:22] <cypha> not log me out of ubuntu?
[07:22] <nickrud> cypha sudo halt stops the computer, sudo reboot reboots it.  shutdown has a lot more options, like x minutes in the future, etc. man shutdown tells all
[07:22] <theFATMAN> ;
[07:22] <cypha> ahhh
[07:22] <cypha> very cool
[07:22] <cypha> thanks nickrud
[07:23] <KRaZy_WaKa> ok gonna try a DVD with VLC i think i understand it now
[07:23] <nickrud> cypha it won't do anything in a terminal window, it works in a console (clt-alt-f1 thru f6)
[07:23] <cypha> k
[07:23] <cypha> none of them will do anything in a terminal window?
[07:23] <cypha> (terminal window ?= xterm)
[07:24] <nickrud> cypha no, the halt, reboot and shutdown work anywhere. And yes, terminal window is any terminal in X
[07:24] <nickrud> cypha the 'no' was regarding logout in a terminal <window>
[07:24] <moDumass> totem cannot leave fullscreen
[07:24] <cypha> ohh, ok
[07:24] <cypha> thanks
[07:24] <moDumass> :)
[07:25] <nickrud> moDumass sounds like you have a permanent movie player now :)
[07:25] <amirman84> can anyone tell me the best virtual machine software to use on ubuntu?
[07:25] <KRaZy_WaKa> nickrud: ok it wants to open the bourne identity but won't play it
[07:25] <moDumass> any idea how to fix this, the "leave fullscreen" popup button doesnt work and yeh the "go fullscreen" option is greyed out
[07:25] <enzo> i've just understood the ! es nickrud thanks :)
[07:25] <KRaZy_WaKa> thats on VLC and totem says cant read from resource
[07:25] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa did you install libdvdcss2 ?
[07:26] <moDumass> nickrud, you are an Einstein on the modern era, its awesome, yet scary at the same time
[07:26] <KRaZy_WaKa> not sure lol... i did a massive codec session one day to try to get it to work lol...
[07:26] <KRaZy_WaKa> will check synaptic for it quick
[07:27] <nickrud> moDumass try looking up awe  (abject terror is the first entry in moby thesaurus)
[07:27] <nickrud> KRaZy_WaKa not in synaptic, unless you have medibuntu in your sources
[07:27] <nickrud> !libdvdcss | KRaZy_WaKa
[07:28] <moDumass> nickrud, i tried but it seems i was spelling thesaurus wrong
[07:28] <KRaZy_WaKa> yeah i got that bot response already... how do i add medibuntu to my source list?\
[07:28] <KRaZy_WaKa> i used the GUI for the source list as well
[07:28] <moDumass> nickrud, actually i should still have been able to find it, google pretty idiot proofs the internet these days
[07:29] <bullgard1> My laptop Amilo7600 Ubuntu 8.04 does not play a 6,3 MB mp3 file to its end. How to analyze this error?
[07:29] <nickrud> moDumass yeah, google is useful. I once used a link to moby thesaurus on awe when I was chiding some debian developers. Lovely thesaurus ;)
[07:29] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa
[07:30] <KRaZy_WaKa> yeah theFATMAN?
[07:30] <moDumass> nickrud, for realziez though, i cant get out of fullscreen, so i have to exit every file, which is fine mostly, but im using a broken toy in a broken toy way, really id like to fix the toy.. any ideas?
[07:31] <nickrud> bullgard1 I'd try playing it with mpg123 , it will tell you if it's corrupt
[07:31] <theFATMAN> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -0 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[07:31] <nickrud> moDumass about totem? It did that once to me, I ended up switching to a console and killing it, then setting every video media type to vlc and installed mozilla-mplayer. Never looked back
[07:31] <bullgard1> nickrud: I will try to gain knowledge what mpg123 is.
[07:32] <KRaZy_WaKa> oh no not more terminal! lol
[07:32] <theFATMAN> you need the key as well
[07:32] <theFATMAN> lol, the quickest
[07:32] <moDumass> hmm, may uninstall remove and retry
[07:32] <KRaZy_WaKa> definitely faster to use terminal
[07:32] <moDumass> nickrud, thanks
[07:32] <abhinay> Ubuntu Hardy Repository for isight-firmware-tools ?
[07:33] <moDumass> nickrud, yeh im not really a "trust myself with terminal kinda guy yet
[07:33] <etyrnal> i do not get visudo... ?
[07:33] <moDumass> one day
[07:33] <Doodluv> k...using update-manager to go from 7.04 to 7.10 hosed my ubuntu installtion....the machine will not load gnome. Is there a way to do a reinstall w/o destroynig /home ?
[07:33] <etyrnal> idn't it visudo /etc/sudoers ??
[07:33] <Starnestommy> etyrnal: it's just visudo
[07:33] <nickrud> moDumass the best part of linux is breaking it ;)
[07:33] <etyrnal> Starnestommy, thank You sir
[07:34] <moDumass> nickrud, yeh but its a saturday night and i want to watch some movies later, and my fixes sometimes take days
[07:34] <KRaZy_WaKa> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -0 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[07:34] <KRaZy_WaKa> wget: invalid option -- 0
[07:34] <KRaZy_WaKa> Usage: wget [OPTION]... [URL]...
[07:34] <KRaZy_WaKa> Try `wget --help' for more options.
[07:34] <KRaZy_WaKa> is what i got
[07:34] <FloodBot3> KRaZy_WaKa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:34] <matkam> hello good people
[07:34] <theFATMAN> for the key:  wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -0- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[07:34] <KRaZy_WaKa> sorry floodbot lol
[07:34] <theFATMAN> hmmmm
[07:34] <theFATMAN> hold on
[07:34] <nickrud> Doodluv back up home if you can, otherwise create a /data directory, copy /home there, and then delete all other directories by hand. Reinstall, and when you partition the drive, be sure to mark the root partition as not formatted. (do the move and deletion with a live cd)
[07:34] <rodolfo> guys, the /join command returns '/join :Unknown command'. 'Unknown file type /home/xyz/.xchat2/xchat.conf. Maybe you need to install the Perl or Python plugin?' what should I do?
[07:35] <matkam> i want to install ubuntu for my grandma... shes never touched a computer before, and doesnt know english well... does ubuntu do persian/farsi?
[07:35] <nickrud> Doodluv make sure that you do 'do not format this partition'
[07:35] <kindofabuzz> installing SoF2 under wine, i get to the please insert disc 2, the guide i'm using says issue a killall -9 -v wine so i can unmound cd1, but killall -9 -v wine isn't working, any ideas?
[07:35] <Doodluv> "this partition" meaning / ?
[07:35] <Starnestommy> rodolfo: are you using xchat?
[07:35] <nickrud> Doodluv yes.
[07:35] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, try here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-615018.html
[07:35] <Doodluv> ok....I'll give it a shot
[07:35] <rodolfo> Starnestommy, yes
[07:36] <Doodluv> nickrud: thank you
[07:36] <Starnestommy> rodolfo: regular xchat or xchat-gnome?
[07:36] <dpreacher> at university since freenode is blocked as a timepass/chat site, i have to use mibbit.com but i am not able to connect to ubuntu room which is what i need mostly. what do i do?
[07:36] <rodolfo> Starnestommy, I believe it's the regular xchat 2.8.4
[07:37] <Starnestommy> dpreacher: does port 8001 work for connecting to freenode?
[07:37] <nickrud> dpreacher it should allow you, there's a trigger in floodbot to enable mibbit logins. Try asking in #ubuntu-ops
[07:37] <Starnestommy> rodolfo: try removing your xchat configuration directory with rm -r ~/.xchat2
[07:37] <Starnestommy> rodolfo: then restart xchat
[07:37] <dpreacher> i dunno what other way to check if the irc port works but when i tried accessing with chatzilla or pidgin...i was not able to connect at all
[07:38] <dpreacher> i'll ask in ubuntu-ops then
[07:38] <shane_> join #ubuntu
[07:38] <moDumass> nickrud, how do i set kafienne as the default media player?
[07:38] <moDumass> or vlc?
[07:38] <dpreacher> shane_ you already are in ubuntu
[07:38] <rodolfo> Starnestommy, hold up
[07:38] <nickrud> moDumass you would right click a media file, select properties, then the open with tab on the dialog box. You have to do that for each media type as I remember
[07:39] <KRaZy_WaKa> theFATMAN: confused not getting how that forum is gonna help me
[07:39] <Doodluv> nickrud: I mounted the partition with the ubuntu install while booted with a live cd. Then i created a /data dir and copied my /home  there. so you think I should delte the other dirs by hand?
[07:39] <nickrud> Doodluv yes, you should.
[07:39] <theFATMAN> oh, i thought you got that error, lol, woops--dude, i am ...medicated
[07:40] <Oak_> smoke you there?
[07:40] <moDumass> nickrud, cool
[07:40] <moDumass> thanks
[07:41] <Oak_> I still can't figure out how to get my network connection to help if anyone knows much about it. I just installed ubuntu on my laptop I have a linksys router connection wired
[07:41] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa: here ya go,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-7486ed038a9becc1dff10a24cc07a38a00d70e9f
[07:42] <rodolfo> Starnestommy, I believe the 'rm -r .xchat2' worked out but should I restart xchat to make it work?
[07:42] <Starnestommy> rodolfo: yes
[07:42] <Sir_Fawnpug> Any suggestions for a nice video editing program?
[07:43] <Doodluv> nickrud: it makes perfect sense. mot formating "/" will be the logical thing to do giving the only thing there will be my backed up stuff in /data, correct?
[07:43] <enzo_> hI!!
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> you have a /data?
[07:43] <nickrud> Doodluv yes
[07:43] <Doodluv> I just like to make sure I have an understanding =]
[07:43] <Doodluv> Daisuke_Ido: I do now
[07:44] <nickrud> Doodluv heh. You understood good, I only had to say it once, except for confirmation ;)
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> just making sure you weren't assuming things were getting put somewhere that doesn't exist :)  i had someone do that a little while back, horrible mess
[07:44] <rodolfo> Starnestommy, it worked. thank you so much :)
[07:45] <etyrnal> how do i use the LiveCD to recover my stupidly lost sudo ability?  i edited the passwd and groups files -- i was preparing to change my uid from 1000 to 501.
[07:45] <Doodluv> Daisuke_Ido: Im moving my /home dirs to a /data dir I created, then Im going to reinstall ubuntu,  while preserving my /home data
[07:45] <Starnestommy> etyrnal: add your user to the admin group
[07:45] <KRaZy_WaKa> sweetness thanx a lot theFATMAN
[07:45] <nickrud> etyrnal easiest is to boot in recovery mode, and adduser <user>admin
[07:45] <Doodluv> no worries
[07:45] <KRaZy_WaKa> ok i could get used to terminal
[07:45] <theFATMAN> No P
[07:45] <theFATMAN> lol
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> Doodluv: makes perfect sense
[07:46] <Doodluv> I love community
[07:46] <shane_> #cedega is not answering. anyone willing to help get WoW installed through cedega using 8.04?
[07:46] <enzo_> help
[07:46] <etyrnal> Starnestommy, thanks
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> though...  in the future, a separate partition for /home will make that step unnecessary
[07:46] <etyrnal> nickrud, thanks
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> shane_: just use wine, it works just fine
[07:46] <KRaZy_WaKa> this beats the hell out of calling M$ for support lol
[07:46] <etyrnal> i forgot to first add my secondary admin user =)
[07:47] <Doodluv> I agree. Usually when I do linux installs i separate /home /boot /var, etc. but this is my home machine...and i was lazy
[07:47] <nks_> Good morning all, would anyone happen to know, how to close windows in fire mode ?
[07:48] <shane_> Daisuke_Ido, In wine I get an error that the memory cannot be "read"
[07:48] <aata> hello everyone. i have an fresh ubuntu server install, but none of the computers on my network can see it
[07:48] <etyrnal> nks_, huh?
[07:48] <nks_> I'm all in compiz and for some reason not seeing a way ...
[07:49] <Ahadiel> nks_, Install compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:49] <theFATMAN> lol
[07:49] <Dr_willis> aata,  you did install/configure  some services? can the other machines Ping it?
[07:49] <Ahadiel> nks_, Then enable the effects
[07:49] <aata> i can ping the server, but it doesnt show up in any shared places
[07:49] <enzo_> 	
[07:49] <enzo_> I want to show to a channel in Spanish ALG can help me
[07:49] <KRaZy_WaKa> ok now that i have the medibuntu repository in my sources list i can get the libdvdcss2 codecs?
[07:49] <Dr_willis> aata,  you proberly need to enable samba and set up some shares - if you expect windows machines to see   shared directories.
[07:49] <thrashmaster> algien que hable español
[07:49] <enzo_> sip
[07:49] <etyrnal> aata, have an smb server conf'd and rinnung?
[07:49] <nks_> Ahadiel- I did but not seeing the fire mode settings !
[07:49] <enzo_> yop
[07:50] <Ahadiel> nks_, It's under 3d Animations
[07:50] <enzo_> yo hablo espanol y ingles
[07:50] <nks_> I am writing in fire but unable to close out windows in fire..
[07:50] <Ahadiel> !es
[07:50] <nickrud> enzo   try typing   /j #ubuntu-es
[07:50] <enzo_> xD
[07:50] <aata> see the thing is that i shouldnt need samba
[07:50] <sandrinux> hy all
[07:50] <thrashmaster>  
[07:50] <thrashmaster> ok
[07:50] <enzo_> ok trank
[07:50] <KRaZy_WaKa> hi san
[07:51] <cypha> i have a folder in my /home/cypha directory that says bcm43xx
[07:51] <Dr_willis> aata what are you expecting the windows machines to 'see' then?
[07:51] <nks_> Ahadiel-ok, I'll take another look. thankx
[07:51] <etyrnal> aata, to show up on a windows machine?
[07:51] <cypha> do i need that?
[07:51] <cypha> or are the required files for my broadcom kept elsewhere?
[07:51] <cypha> ...or how do i figure this out?
[07:51] <KRaZy_WaKa> ok brb apparently the updates due to adding medibuntu require a restart
[07:55] <daftpunk> hi can I somehow backup all the packages i have installed so far? I will be using my computer off line for some time now
[07:55] <nks_> Ahadiel- would you happen to have a path leading to the settings, I'm looking but not seeing it. I only have 3d windows (it's not there) and Animations with the geeni lamp (and I'm not seeing it there either) !
[07:55] <theFATMAN> who remembers how to whois an email address?
[07:55] <sandrinux> do you think is a good idea to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 "via wireless"? Or it is possible that, when I download/install of the wireless-related packets, the upgrade can freeeze?
[07:55] <Oak_> Can anyone suggest a good place to look to help deal with network connection issues?
[07:55] <theFATMAN> or pull up the IP thru the email
[07:55] <aata> sorry
[07:55] <aata> my con dropped
[07:55] <aata> what were you guys saying?
[07:55] <cypha> i have a folder in my /home/cypha directory that says bcm43xx....do i need that or are the required files for my broadcom wireless adapter kept elsewhere? ...or how do i figure this out?
[07:56] <lanxuan> convienient
[07:57] <Ahadiel> nks_, I see it for each one of the tabs.. it's "Burn"
[07:57] <Ahadiel> (Under Animations)
[07:57] <daftpunk> Anybody? package backup? how to do that?
[07:57] <Dr_willis> aata,  if you expect the windows machines to see  the linux box under  'network neighborhood' or similer..you need to have some samba shares enabled I belive.
[07:57] <refinter> парни каким плеером кроме VLC можно смотреть ТЕЛЕФЕЩАНИЕ по ЛВС ?
[07:58] <aata> Dr_willis
[07:58] <nks_> ahadiel-oooohhhhhh ! -LOL- I did see burn but was unsure as to what it was for - I actually checked it then unchecked it -hahahahaha- THANKX ALOT AHADIEL
[08:00] <rodolfo> Starnestommy, how do i extract the content from an img/iso file to some specific directory? is there a command to do this?
[08:00] <neil_d> I have a USB device (a modem) every time I start the computer I need to unplug it and replug it back in to get it to work.  Is there some command that I can do to simulate this ?
[08:02] <Starnestommy> rodolfo: I think there is a command for extracting one, but I don't remember it.  You could try mounting the iso like it's a virtual cd, though
[08:03] <n00bosaur> HI CAN U TELL ME IF I USE A PROGRAM TO SCRUBZ MY HDD WILL IT MAKE IT SO I CAN'T USE UBUNTU ON IT AFTER? THANKS LOLOLLLZ!!!1
[08:03] <rodolfo> Starnestommy, daemontools can do that for me but what similar option do I have on ubuntu?
[08:03] <Starnestommy> rodolfo: the mount command
[08:03] <gordonjcp> !caps | n00bosaur
[08:04] <sandrinux> rodolfo, there is a way to mount locally a iso file, so you can browse it and copy anything
[08:04] <cypha> i have a folder in my /home/cypha directory that says bcm43xx....do i need that or are the required files for my broadcom wireless adapter kept elsewhere? ...or how do i figure this out?
[08:04] <gordonjcp> rodolfo: "mount -o loop <name of iso> <name of mount point>"
[08:04] <n00bosaur> gordonjcp: Sorry lololllzzz!!!1 it was an accident!
[08:04] <gordonjcp> rodolfo: you may have to tack a sudo on the start
[08:05] <gordonjcp> n00bosaur: in answer to your question, no, scrubbing the disk won't stop you installing Ubuntu on it
[08:05] <n00bosaur> gordonjcp: Thanks! =D
[08:05] <gordonjcp> n00bosaur: disk scrubbing software is a pointless waste of time anyway, though ;-)
[08:05] <cypha> any ideas for me gordonjcp ?
[08:05] <n00bosaur> gordonjcp: Why is that?
[08:05] <gordonjcp> cypha: at a guess, if you've installed the broadcom stuff correctly you can just bin that directory
[08:06] <gordonjcp> cypha: I've never used a broadcom card, so I can't be certain
[08:06] <cypha> trash bin?
[08:06] <cypha> or put it in the directory /bin ?
[08:06] <rodolfo> gordonjcp and how do i set the destination folder to extract it's files?
[08:06] <iltechie> \o guys ff2 plugin q. .. play buttons on this page http://www.8notes.com/guitar_chord_chart/ expect my FF2 to execute .pl Perl script, any ideas ?
[08:06] <gordonjcp> n00bosaur: if you overwrite a disk even once the data is gone forever, assuming the disk is less than ten years old
[08:07] <gordonjcp> rodolfo: what you're doing is mounting the ISO as though it was a disk
[08:07] <gordonjcp> rodolfo: the "-o loop" tells mount that actually it's a loopback and not a real disk
[08:07] <Slart> gordonjcp: I would say it's the other way around... you can never be sure it's gone.. since disks use caching and wear-leveling and whatnot
[08:07] <TimStarling_> when I turn my computer on, my PCM channel volume is set to 635%
[08:07] <gordonjcp> iltechie: misconfigured server?
[08:07] <rodolfo> gordonjcp I don't follow you
[08:07] <TimStarling_> the result being that it's severely clipped, before it's scaled back again by the master volume control
[08:08] <BlackRece> hi pll, i'm abbout to re-install ubuntu feisty desktop, the plan is to have a desktop OS with server apps (apache, mysql, mail and etc) with a desktop gui, is there a better way? is someone willing to show/tell me a method of adding a GUI desktop to a feisty server?
[08:08] <TimStarling_> anyone know what component might be responsible?
[08:08] <gordonjcp> Slart: ok, barring wear levelling - you may not be able to hit blocks that have been mapped out
[08:08] <Slart> gordonjcp: but I guess this isn't really on topic.. so I'll stop here
[08:08] <Dr_willis> BlackRece,  its easier to add the services to a desktop install
[08:08] <gordonjcp> Slart: but there's no way to read the old data from a block that's been overwritten
[08:08] <n00bosaur> gordonjcp: I used ubuntu to overwrite my disk once, but when i used the clean install I came across an old file of mine that was STILL there.
[08:08] <gordonjcp> n00bosaur: you didn't overwrite it then
[08:09] <n00bosaur> gordonjcp: So formatting and putting a clean install of ubuntu doesn't do the job?
[08:09] <iltechie> gordonjcp>	iltechie: misconfigured server?  <<< why it plays perfectly on win machine. talking abouut client here
[08:09] <gordonjcp> rodolfo: if you wanted to mount something like a second hard disk, you'd say something like "mount /dev/hdb1 /media/sparedisk"
[08:09] <gordonjcp> iltechie: <shrug>
[08:09] <Slart> gordonjcp: well.. not in software I suppose
[08:09] <iltechie> . .. play buttons on this page http://www.8notes.com/guitar_chord_chart/
[08:09] <gordonjcp> Slart: no, there's really really no way to find out what was there
[08:10] <iltechie> gordonjcp: ty, been googling for some time about it
[08:10] <BlackRece> ta Dr Willis, any tips or common mistakes i should avoid?
[08:10] <gordonjcp> iltechie: it looks like it's supposed to be serving the output of a Perl script
[08:10] <Slart> n00bosaur: are you really sure you didn't just reuse the partitions? files usually don't stick around when you repartition
[08:10] <gordonjcp> iltechie: what happens in Windows?
[08:10] <vb> can I install transmission 1.21 from getdeb.net (hardy specific deb) on my gutsy gibbon?
[08:10] <iltechie> yep gordonjcp and win ff2 does it perfectly
[08:10] <raymond> hello does anyone knows how to install starcraft
[08:10] <iltechie> will look on addons.mozilla.com/firefox
[08:11] <gordonjcp> !iso | rodolfo
[08:11] <n00bosaur> Slart: I told it to use the entire partition, guided.
[08:11] <gordonjcp> !appdb | rodolfo
[08:11] <gordonjcp> rodolfo: bah, disregard the appdb thing
[08:11] <gordonjcp> !appdb | raymond
[08:11] <raymond> i install wine
[08:11] <raymond> already
[08:11] <gordonjcp> n00bosaur: if it repartitioned and reformatted the disk then no old files would be kicking about
[08:12] <Slart> n00bosaur: I'm not too familiar with the installer so I don't know what the default behaviour is.. but files don't stick around if you remove the partitions and create new ones
[08:12] <raymond> but i can't install the game
[08:12] <giloedan> hi, i dont want the file manager keep opening new window when i enter a directory, can i do that?
[08:13] <n00bosaur> Doesn't the computer cache an image of the old system on the HDD for later recovery if needed? I was under the impression that's how a lot of cyber criminals get caught. Even if they reformat or repartition their drives it saves images of old files.
[08:13] <gordonjcp> n00bosaur: nope
[08:13] <blah561> I am attempting to use LAMP, but I can not write to the folder that contracts the files, as "permission is denied."  How can I permit the permission?
[08:13] <gordonjcp> n00bosaur: some systems have a recovery partition on the disk
[08:13] <Dr_willis> giloedan,  the gnome file manager has 2 modes, the 'browser' mode and the 'spatial' mode you want to enable the  spatial mode perhaps. (everyone seems to HATE the spatial mode stuff)
[08:13] <rodolfo> gordonjcp sandrinux, Starnestommy, thanks for the help!
[08:13] <n00bosaur> gordonjcp: I overwrote that when I put ubuntu on this laptop.
[08:14] <blah561> Nevermind.
[08:14] <raymond> i install wine but still i can't install starcraft
[08:14] <gordonjcp> n00bosaur: also bear in mind that if you format a hard disk, all that does is blank out the start of the partition and the superblocks
[08:14] <giloedan> Dr_willis:  how can i change to browser mode?
[08:14] <Dr_willis> giloedan,  i dont rember. Im sure its mentioned in the forums. Theres a check box/option in the gconf editor i recall.
[08:14] <gordonjcp> raymond: that's a shame
[08:14] <arooni-mobile> 1) how do i list total space left on all volumes?  2) how do i track down which directories have the biggest files (so i can get rid of them)?
[08:15] <gordonjcp> n00bosaur: if you just format the disk, you can often poke around and find at least bits of files
[08:15] <giloedan> Dr_willis:  ok i'll check it out
[08:15] <n00bosaur> gordonjcp: So by scrubbing the disk what am I doing? Just the same thing? blanking out the same things as the partitioner or formatter?
[08:15] <Frogzoo> arooni-mobile: df -h
[08:15] <gordonjcp> arooni-mobile: 1) "df" 2) "du"
[08:15] <Dr_willis> giloedan,  http://library.gnome.org/users/user-guide/2.22/gosnautilus-510.html.en
[08:15] <Frogzoo> arooni-mobile: filelight is best for finding big arse files
[08:15] <theFATMAN> does ubuntu have an email address trace program?
[08:15] <raul> anyone here use sirius radio
[08:15] <gordonjcp> n00bosaur: by scrubbing the disk you are overwriting all sectors with random garbage
[08:15] <raymond> can some one help me
[08:16] <n00bosaur> gordonjcp: Oh, I see.
[08:16] <Frogzoo> !appdb | raymond
[08:16] <gordonjcp> n00bosaur: now on *very very old* disks, there's the theoretical possibility that you can go in with a special microscope and see the "fringes" around the data written on the disk surface, and work out what the data was *before* it was overwritten
[08:16] <Slart> theFATMAN: email tracing? what do you want to do?
[08:16] <theFATMAN> Slart, I have a really bad spammer i want to track down
[08:16] <raul> Slart, your always here
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[08:17] <Dr_willis> raul,  yes i have.. and no ive never gotten their streaming to work under linux. :(
[08:17] <gordonjcp> n00bosaur: however, this doesn't work on drives made in the last 10-15 years, because they use a more complex recording system
[08:17] <BlackRece> ah, can i srub a disk that had two partitions, one of which the bios reports as bad, in the hope that the drive would work (ok-ish) after a good scrub and polish?
[08:17] <Slart> theFATMAN: not a lot you can do in software locally
[08:17] <gordonjcp> theFATMAN: not worth bothering with, tbh
[08:17] <giloedan> great it works, it's in the preference
[08:17] <gordonjcp> theFATMAN: just use something like spamassassin and the various RBLs
[08:17] <Slart> raul: nope
[08:17] <theFATMAN> Slart, if i can get the IP, i'd be fine
[08:17] <raul> Dr_willis, thanks and damn that sucks
[08:17] <theFATMAN> Slart, all I have now is the email address
[08:17] <Slart> theFATMAN: just check the emails full source
[08:17] <gordonjcp> theFATMAN: that would give you the IP of a pwned Windows box in China
[08:18] <n00bosaur> gordonjcp: So when I go to put my clean install of ubuntu on, what do you recommend?
[08:18] <Slart> theFATMAN: that's all the info you can get..
[08:18] <gordonjcp> theFATMAN: or, alternatively,a pwned Windows box in the US
[08:18] <n00bosaur> For getting rid of EVERYTHING
[08:18] <gordonjcp> n00bosaur: partition and format the drive as normal
[08:18] <theFATMAN> I did, the headers showed the proxy and the original senders email
[08:18] <n00bosaur> gordonjcp: And there's no ever getting back any of that information?
[08:19] <gordonjcp> n00bosaur: nope
[08:19] <Slart> theFATMAN: then that's as far as you'll get.. not a lot more you can do
[08:19] <gordonjcp> so if there's anything you want to keep, make sure you've backed it up
[08:19]  * n00bosaur makes sure he grabs all his important documents!
[08:19] <theFATMAN> hmmm...i know there is a way, i just cant remember
[08:19] <gordonjcp> n00bosaur: in future if you make a separate /home partition, you can reinstall Linux and leave /home untouched
[08:19] <Slart> theFATMAN: and as gordonjcp said.. you'll probably end up at a trojaned box in china or us
[08:19] <Myrtti> grauh.
[08:19] <theFATMAN> true
[08:20] <n00bosaur> gordonjcp: Ok, thanks for the info!
[08:20] <theFATMAN> but it came up on their myspace page
[08:20] <gordonjcp> theFATMAN: I have huge swathes of the US's ISPs dynamic IP ranges blocked
[08:20] <theFATMAN> n00basaur, were you trying to retrieve data from a HDD?
[08:21] <KRaZy_WaKa> well now when i try to play the DVD under VLC it crashes
[08:21] <KRaZy_WaKa> computers irk me
[08:21] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, it happened to me-u do mean a physical dvd right?
[08:21] <KRaZy_WaKa> yeah
[08:22] <KRaZy_WaKa> the bourne identity to be exact lol
[08:22] <amerinese> this sounds stupid but... i'm switching from windows and why doesn't the backspace key work for going back in firefox on ubuntu?  is there another convention?
[08:22] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, what i did, was i rebooted, went to the ubuntu recovery mode, then repaired broken pckgs, then norml reboot--->wrked like a charm
[08:23] <KRaZy_WaKa> i have no clue how to do that lol
[08:23] <theFATMAN> lol, live free or die hard for me
[08:23] <bloops> A program is saying: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0 is not found, but I have both libsdl-image1.2 and the -dev installed
[08:23] <gordonjcp> amerinese: in about:config there's a variable called browser.backspace_action
[08:23] <theFATMAN> just reboot, and you'll see the option
[08:23] <theFATMAN> are you dual booting?
[08:23] <KRaZy_WaKa> do i have to go to the grub menu?
[08:24] <gordonjcp> amerinese: in Ubuntu it's set to 1, so "Backspace" scrolls up a page and "Shift-Backspace" scrolls down
[08:24] <KRaZy_WaKa> no straight ubuntu Hardy
[08:24] <Slart> amerinese: I think alt+left key works the same.. or ctrl.. or shift or something
[08:24] <amerinese> gordonjcp: what does the integer represent?
[08:24] <abhinay> my laptop (MacBook) brightness is going maximum when i open any video in vlc or mplayer, any workaround for this ?
[08:24] <bloops> Infact there is a link in /usr/lib called libSDL_image-1.2.so.0 to libSDL_image-1.2.so.0.1.5
[08:24] <gordonjcp> amerinese: if you set it to 0, it will go back a page and shift-backspace will go forwards
[08:24] <amerinese> ok hmm, mine is actually set to 2
[08:24] <gordonjcp> amerinese: oh ok, nfi what that is then
[08:24] <theFATMAN> ok, then the loader, yea, i have always dual booted, so it is there initially fi=or m, lol
[08:24] <gordonjcp> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.backspace_action
[08:24] <gordonjcp> amerinese: ^
[08:25] <amerinese> gordonjcp:well, i know 0 is the one for me, thanks
[08:25] <KRaZy_WaKa> ok once in recovery mode how do i fix broken pkgs?
[08:25] <theFATMAN> you will see
[08:25] <theFATMAN> cant miss it
[08:25] <KRaZy_WaKa> so it gives me an option to fix broken pkgs and it does it for me?
[08:25] <theFATMAN> like the bios screen, it looks dif
[08:25] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol
[08:25] <giloedan> what virtual machine work best in ubuntu? virtual box or qemu?
[08:25] <theFATMAN> yeppers
[08:26] <KRaZy_WaKa> hell yeah love ubuntu
[08:26] <KRaZy_WaKa> when i go back to windows i'm almost lost anymore lol
[08:26] <Dr_willis> giloedan,  dont forget vmware
[08:26] <Starnestommy> giloedan: virtualbox is faster, although qemu with kqemu is almost as fast
[08:26] <Myrtti> giloedan: it's up to your own preferences
[08:26] <Starnestommy> giloedan: xen is the fastest that I've used
[08:26] <theFATMAN> yeah, windows is lame, but i need it for work *sigh* i am a graphic designer
[08:27] <ScarFace88> I have converted and old dell Dimension L933r int a samba server on a winddows domain.
[08:27] <giloedan> Dr_willis:  we have to pay for vmware ?
[08:27] <KRaZy_WaKa> kewl would i have seen any of your work? lol
[08:27] <Dr_willis> giloedan,  it has a free version.. has for  some time now.
[08:27] <BlackRece> vmware is used 4 wat?
[08:27] <theFATMAN> www.greenpassion.org has some
[08:27] <theFATMAN> www.greenlightnin.com
[08:27] <BlackRece> sry ignore me
[08:28] <theFATMAN> www.bjjperth.com
[08:28] <theFATMAN> to name a few
[08:28] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol lotsa green do anything for high times?
[08:28] <ScarFace88> VituralBox is the only way to go It's sun so you know it works period
[08:28] <theFATMAN> naw, but it would be nice
[08:28] <giloedan> i already used to vmware in windows, maybe i'll try it out
[08:28] <theFATMAN> mainly digital, but we do some print design
[08:28] <BlackRece> krazy: got one smoking right now (J)
[08:29] <theFATMAN> yeah, i'm bongin away myself
[08:29] <threedee> ubongtu
[08:29] <KRaZy_WaKa> kewl high times accepts articles and stuff from non staff members
[08:29] <BlackRece> theFAT spliff MAN lol
[08:29] <allceeing_i> 1
[08:29] <allceeing_i> 1
[08:30] <theFATMAN> lol, not when i'm solo, mate
[08:30] <BlackRece> lol
[08:30] <theFATMAN> i'm conservative...i'm always stocked, lol
[08:30] <ScarFace88> Colloquy rocks I wish i had forund it earlier
[08:30] <ijusten> I have two screens, which I tried to get working properly with two simultaneous X sessions
[08:30] <KRaZy_WaKa> if ya get a chance you should send them something, maybe they'll charter you for a paying gig
[08:30] <theFATMAN> ubluntu
[08:30] <ijusten> No more about that, as it seems to be now working properly
[08:30] <Zaphod`> Could anyone try give me a hand with something please?
[08:30] <BlackRece> shame u ain't local!
[08:31] <theFATMAN> damn, i'm gonna do a 'ubluntu' wallpaper, lol
[08:31] <threedee> Zaphod; shoot
[08:31] <BlackRece> send me twos lol
[08:31] <KRaZy_WaKa> put me down for a copy of that lol
[08:31] <Zaphod`> I just installed 8.04 and I can't figure out what to but in the bootloader menu to make it list windows
[08:31] <ijusten> However, I can\t seem to get nvidia settings working, claiming the card isnt installed
[08:31] <ijusten> it
[08:31] <ijusten> is
[08:31] <Zaphod`> like, I'm not sure what hd to say to look at.
[08:31] <theFATMAN> lol, send a request to hdgraphicdesigns@gmail.com and i will
[08:31] <ijusten> sorry, my keyboard layout seems to be screwed as well
[08:32] <theFATMAN> or hit me up on skype:  the.fatman.cometh
[08:32] <over2seeu> I need help
[08:33] <threedee> Zaphod: You looked at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:33] <Zaphod`> I have it open at the moment
[08:33] <threedee> Zaphod: you familer with how grub refers to disks and partitions?
[08:33] <KRaZy_WaKa> sending request now lol
[08:33] <Zaphod`> I installed ubuntu on a new HD, which is in the 1st SATA port, and my old HD is in the first IDE one
[08:33] <BlackRece> theFATMAN: as long as it includes "Tokemon" lol
[08:33] <Zaphod`> not really
[08:33] <theFATMAN> lol, that's cool, i'll hook ya up
[08:34] <Gypsy> hey all
[08:34] <over2seeu> the menu bars at the top and bottom of my screen have disappeared. How do I get them back?
[08:34] <theFATMAN> ha ha ha ha ha ha
[08:34] <Zaphod`> I'm not sure what it would be calling my old one if its saying ubuntu is on hd0,0
[08:34] <Gypsy> can someone who really knows their stuff PM me im a lil confuzzled...
[08:34] <theFATMAN> (.)(.)
[08:34] <Gypsy> and somewhat new to gnome kode
[08:34] <giloedan> boobs
[08:35] <keyplute> Hello everyone...pulling my hair out with 8.04 Install, need some help...
[08:35] <ijusten> Right
[08:35] <threedee> Zaphod: hd0 is first hard disk (hda in Linux)
[08:35] <ijusten> It claims that I don't have nvidia drivers installed, even though they are and work perfectly
[08:35] <theFATMAN> keyplute, what architecture?
[08:35] <over2seeu> can anyone here help me with my problem?
[08:35] <cholis> i compile clamav but gcc error like this:checking for a supported version of gcc... ok (4.0.3)
[08:35] <cholis> checking for gcc bug PR27603... ok, bug not present
[08:35] <cholis> checking for gcc bug PR26763-2... ok, bug not present
[08:35] <cholis> checking for valid code generation of CLI_ISCONTAINED... ok, bug not present
[08:35] <cholis> checking for gcc bug PR28045... configure: error: your compiler has gcc PR28045 bug, use a different compiler, see http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28045
[08:35] <ijusten> until I try to access nvidia settings
[08:35] <Zaphod`> hmmm, I would have thought the one linux is on would be the 2nd
[08:35] <ijusten> then it says
[08:35] <ijusten> ERROR: Invalid X Screen 1 specified on line 83 of configuration file
[08:35] <ijusten>        '/home/ijusten/.nvidia-settings-rc' (there is only 1 X Screen on this
[08:35] <ijusten>        Display).
[08:35] <Zaphod`> Well, its my nerw one anyway
[08:36] <iltechie> cholis pasting too much
[08:36] <cholis> i am sory
[08:36] <keyplute> I am trying to install on a Pentium 4, 1 Gb Ram, 2 40 GB Hard Drives, and i've tried both the Main Installer,a nd the alternate install CD
[08:36] <over2seeu> problem on xbuntu. anyone help?
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[08:36] <Gypsy> does anyone run office 07 on 64-bit ?
[08:36] <Gypsy> or is there a way to port the mac office 08 to run on it?
[08:36] <over2seeu> anyone here good with xbuntu?
[08:37] <Zaphod`> So im going to guess i would refer to the other hard drive as hd1 if its calling the one linux is on hd0?
[08:37] <threedee> Zaphod: I'm no expert, but I'd look for the grub manual, and ask questions back here
[08:37] <Zaphod`> okay, thanks
[08:37] <ScarFace88> I would rather  shoot my self then waste a perfectlygood Atholn X2 Duel Core 5600+ processor on Microsofy Virour ware.
[08:38] <KRaZy_WaKa> theFATMAN: how kewl would it be to make a totally new ubuntu variant, uBLUNTu
[08:38] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol
[08:38] <theFATMAN> keyplute: i know AMD64, srry
[08:38] <threedee> Zaphod: ..... I mean the real grub manual, not the Linux man page
[08:38] <keyplute> The main installer will just crash and return to the Run from the Live CD Option, and when I use the alternate CD, it crashes at 6% everytime, with the Fatal Error Message......I am also not tryin to do anything fancy with my two drives....just want Ubuntu on one, and a linux partitioned drive for the second one.
[08:38] <Zaiden> ScarFace88: That's my system's processor : D
[08:38] <Zaphod`> yeah i googled it then, going to have a look
[08:38] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, that would be cool, but it could only be a theme, really
[08:38] <Ayabara> I'm looking for an image organizer/editor the has a similar solution to picasa. Edits are stored in a database file and applied before the image is showed on screen, but the original jpeg is not overwritten. Is there such an app in linux?
[08:38] <over2seeu> can anyone help with: For some reason the bars that are generally at the top and bottom of my screen have disappeared. How do I get them back?
[08:39] <ScarFace88> Zaiden: How do you like the X@ duel Core 5600+
[08:39] <cypha> are there any good screenlets or other ways to keep tabs on receiving new emails?
[08:39] <KRaZy_WaKa> theFATMAN: yeah true, could include a modified version of firefox with some of the best stoner sites built into favorites lol
[08:39] <Slart> cypha: there's a mailbox watcher thingy for gnome
[08:39] <Traveler2> is there a way to migrate a live ubuntu box to a new machines?
[08:39] <cypha> because the gmail and the mailcheck ones suck
[08:39] <cypha> slart, neither of those, right?
[08:39] <Slart> cypha: mail notification
[08:39] <giloedan> over2seeu:  have u tried to turn it off and on again?
[08:40] <BlackRece> uBLUNTu theme would be ace with TOKEMON icons and BONE-THUGS-N-HARMONY sounds & music!!
[08:40] <Zaphod`> hmmm. Its telling me I don't have permissions to save the menu.lst file
[08:40] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, yeah, good thinking, you ever wanna do it, i'm down
[08:40] <Starnestommy> Zaphod`: which command did you use to edit it?
[08:40] <over2seeu> giloedan: yah about three times already
[08:40] <Slart> !info mail-notification
[08:40] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol i'll ditch hardy right now
[08:40] <Gypsy> looks like im hittin LJ for help...
[08:40] <Slart> cypha: I don't know if it does gmail.. but it does regular pop and imap at least
[08:40] <cypha> slart, it's called mail notification?
[08:40] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, BlackRece, you ever wanna work on it, i'm game
[08:40] <Zaphod`> umm, gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:41] <cypha> and it's a widget or what?
[08:41] <Starnestommy> Zaphod`: run gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:41] <theFATMAN> naw, it would have to be hardy...stable
[08:41] <Zaiden> ScarFace88: It's pretty good, better than my ol' celeron 2.4ghz dell :P
[08:41] <Slart> cypha: it's a regular application afaik.. resides in the systray
[08:41] <Zaphod`> thanks
[08:41] <BlackRece> theFATMAN & KRaZy: ME TOO!!!
[08:41] <ScarFace88> Gypsy: Yea I love LJ as matter of fact I am  subscriber t that fine publication.
[08:41] <theFATMAN> BlackRece, then hop on the email list homie
[08:41] <cypha> ohh
[08:41] <over2seeu>  giloedan: any idea on how to fix it?
[08:41] <cypha> that sounds good slart
[08:41] <theFATMAN> lol
[08:41] <cypha> you use it?
[08:42] <Slart> cypha: yup
[08:42] <cypha> what does it use to view the mail?
[08:42] <KRaZy_WaKa> ok but renamed to Hardly Hanginon
[08:42] <cypha> does it open in the browser?
[08:42] <BlackRece> If I ever get this fireweb ubuntu box setup!! lol
[08:42] <cypha> and isn't google pop and imap?
[08:42] <BlackRece> lol
[08:42] <cypha> i mean gmail
[08:42] <theFATMAN> lol
[08:42] <Zaphod`> Thanks, let me save it. I'm going to go see if it worked.
[08:42] <Slart> cypha: you get a little popup with the header info.. then it launches whatever mail software you want to actually read the mail
[08:42] <ScarFace88> Zaiden: I f I could affordit I'd purcahes your old dell off of you and repurpose it as a nother windows samba server for a domain at my school.
[08:42] <theFATMAN> i'm blazed as it is
[08:43] <over2seeu> anyone know how to make the bar at the top and bottom of the screen come back if they disapear?
[08:43] <Slart> cypha: I just checked.. it handles gmail, pop, imap, regular linux mailbox
[08:43] <BlackRece> i'm using th live CD at the mo so can't store much BUT...
[08:43] <giloedan> Hardly Hanginon, lol!!!
[08:43] <KRaZy_WaKa> or Hardy Hookah
[08:43] <Zaiden> ScarFace88: I actually took the ram from it and put it in my Brothers computers so they could have some more memory :)
[08:43] <theFATMAN> no worries, i'm sittin on a TB and a server
[08:43] <cypha> slart, what do i apt-get?
[08:43] <enzo_>  Hi !!
[08:43] <bullgard1> My laptop Amilo7600 Ubuntu 8.04 using 'Video-Player' does not play a 6,3 MB mp3 file to its end. But mpg123 does. How to analyzethis error?
[08:44] <cypha> and is that the best alternative?
[08:44] <legend2440> over2seeu: maybe try typing gnome-panel in terminal
[08:44] <icqnumber> if i login via ssh using this string "shh -2 -N -f ...." how can i check later that connection, or logout safefy?
[08:44] <cypha> or have you just not tried others?
[08:44] <ScarFace88> Zaiden: Not to worry I can appropriate the memory for that old clunker
[08:44] <Slart> cypha: sudo apt-get install mail-notification
[08:44] <keyplute> Anyonen know what happens at 6% during the installing files part of Hardy alternate that would cause a Fatal Error?
[08:44] <KRaZy_WaKa> we should get a cafepress site a design an uBLUNTu Hardy Hookah Tshirt to support the uBLUNTu project lol
[08:45] <Slart> cypha: I don't know about best.. it works for me.. try it.. if you don't like it, uninstall it
[08:45] <cypha> k, cool
[08:45] <over2seeu> legend2440: it didn't work
[08:45] <theFATMAN> lol, dude, you need skype, we can do this
[08:45] <giloedan> keyplute: broken cd?
[08:45] <asdlfkjzxv> wow i finally got my wireless working on my install of 8.04
[08:46] <asdlfkjzxv> i'm using a dell inspiron 1525
[08:46] <xorand> !vpn
[08:46] <theFATMAN> keyplute, check the disc data
[08:46] <BlackRece> can't install skype untill ubuntu install has finished!!
[08:46] <keyplute> giloedan:  Normal install dies too...
[08:46] <theFATMAN> lol, right right
[08:46] <legend2440> over2seeu: any error message when you run gnome-panel in terminal?
[08:46] <theFATMAN> BlackRece, are you on a 32bit or 64?
[08:46] <xorand> !server
[08:46] <over2seeu> says not installed
[08:47] <giloedan> its ur CD or CD drive gone bad
[08:47] <KRaZy_WaKa> BlackRece: you can skype with pidgin
[08:47] <keyplute> It of course doesn't give the percent in the main verson, but it crashers, and returns to the Live CD portion
[08:47] <legend2440> over2seeu: in terminal sud apt-get install gnome-panel
[08:47] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, for real?
[08:47] <legend2440> over2seeu: in terminal sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[08:47] <Shadow420> keyplue giloden u can't expect to ubuntu to have all hardware or software to run perfect on install
[08:47] <cypha> slart what're the ways to uninstall something? there is apt-get remove, then there is something with --purge? then there is 1 other way too, right?
[08:47] <KRaZy_WaKa> i'm pretty sure let me check quick i'm running pidgin now
[08:47] <theFATMAN> damn, i had to do this whole workaround to get skype on my AMD64!
[08:47] <mohkohn> I have an ISP which disconnects me whenever I stop clicking on URL's after a certain amount of time.
[08:48] <keyplute> I can try my other drive to see what happens.  I am also getting an ACPI error when the installer launches
[08:48] <ijusten> how do I edit X configuration file to run nvidia-xconfig as root? what should I write and where?
[08:48] <over2seeu> legend2440: looks like it is downloading
[08:48] <xorand> I have never setup a vpn before.  I have a wireless router on an ubuntu box and would like to connect to it from xp and linux boxes.  Do you know of any tutorials or links, please?
[08:48] <boss> hi
[08:48] <keyplute> Any idea of what would be causing that, and would it be related to the Fatal Install error
[08:48] <Shadow420> theFATMAN I think there is a skype package for 64
[08:48] <Shadow420> !skype64
[08:48] <Slart> cypha: apt-get remove, removes the program binaries but not configuration files... apt-get remove --purge removes everything, binaries + config. I don't know of a third way. (in synaptic "completely remove"=--purge, "remove"=remove)
[08:48] <Shadow420> !skype
[08:49] <theFATMAN> Shadow420, naw, believe me, i looked
[08:49] <giloedan> test'
[08:49] <mohkohn> Is there a way I can make my firefox click on and off so that it appears that I am surfing so that I can download  without having to sit at the computer.
[08:49] <mohkohn> +?
[08:49] <BlackRece> theFATMAN: 32bit m/board 64bit AMD cpu (lol)
[08:49] <over2seeu> legend2440: ok now what?
[08:49] <boss> iam trying to make a custom kernel, i could use some help with what to module and what to build into kernel
[08:49] <theFATMAN> BlackRece, damn, lol
[08:49] <legend2440> over2seeu: try reboot
[08:49] <gordonjcp> mohkohn: you mean randomly follow links, and stuff?
[08:49] <over2seeu> ok
[08:49] <BlackRece> theFATMAN: saving my 64bit pc for mi games!! lol
[08:49] <theFATMAN> lol
[08:50] <Slart> mohkohn: who/what are you trying to fool that you're surfing? boss? wife? some internet-connection auto-shutdown thingu?
[08:50] <over2seeu> legend2440: I typed it in again and they came back
[08:50] <theFATMAN> another reason y i dualboot
[08:50] <legend2440> over2seeu: ok good
[08:50] <Shadow420> the FATMAN are u usiung ubuntu 32-bit or 64-but
[08:50] <over2seeu> legend2440: thanks
[08:50] <legend2440> over2seeu: yw
[08:50] <Shadow420> theFATMAN are u usiung ubuntu 32-bit or 64-bit
[08:50] <mohkohn> Slart some internet connection auto shutdown thing
[08:50] <theFATMAN> Shadow420, 64 all the way homie
[08:50] <boss> :I
[08:50] <BlackRece> KRAZY: installing 7.04 only comes with gaim as default tho i no i can apt-get it l8r
[08:50] <gordonjcp> mohkohn: why not just ping a remote host?
[08:50] <theFATMAN> i got this
[08:51] <theFATMAN> lol
[08:51] <KRaZy_WaKa> install hardy
[08:51] <mohkohn> gordonjcp, it seems to be related to using the web
[08:51] <Slart> mohkohn: you could probably find some kind of macroing thingy.. but far easier would be to download a "auto reload" plugin for firefox and set it to reload a page every 2 minutes
[08:51] <big-g> is there a web site that i can look up linux programs and see how other users rate them? i'm trying to find the most popular and best program for irc chat
[08:51] <theFATMAN> KRaZy_WaKa, who?
[08:51] <Shadow420> theFATMAN ok so using uibuntu 64-bit version would work better for yor system unless its a intel core 2
[08:51] <theFATMAN> naw, its a quad core
[08:52] <mohkohn> The ISP drops out whenever I stop surfing
[08:52] <KRaZy_WaKa> theFATMAN: black rece
[08:52] <theFATMAN> AMD 9500 Phenom Quad
[08:52] <KRaZy_WaKa> drools
[08:52] <theFATMAN> lol
[08:52] <giloedan> mohkohn: u can try to keep pinging to some host
[08:52] <gordonjcp> mohkohn: ok, so ping doesn't work?
[08:52] <Shadow420> theFATMAN ok so you can use 32 on 64 but it may work lot better if you use ubuntu Hardy Heron 64-bit version
[08:53] <cypha> Slart, do dependencies = configuration files?
[08:53] <theFATMAN> 3072RAM|1TB HDD(dual 500GB)|ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT|
[08:53] <Slart> mohkohn: here's one such plugin (not available for ff3) https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/115
[08:53] <mohkohn> I never heard of an auto reload plugin before.
[08:53] <theFATMAN> Shadow, i'm tellin ya mate, i got this!! lol
[08:53] <gordonjcp> mohkohn: I can think of a couple of possibilities
[08:53] <theFATMAN> thankx tho, 4shure
[08:54] <Slart> cypha: no.. dependencies are taken care of automagically by apt... if you have something installed that nothing needs it will tell you when you run apt-get install in a terminal
[08:54] <mohkohn> Pity. I am on Hardy with three
[08:54] <mohkohn> FF3
[08:54] <BlackRece> theFATMAN: "Tim the ToolMan Tailor" MORE POWER! Hoar Hoar Hoar!!!
[08:54] <dany> bonjour tous le monde
[08:54] <Shadow420> theFATMAN so hows the quadcore power
[08:54] <theFATMAN> lol, lost a hit on tht one
[08:54] <over2seeu> ok how do I make things permanent when I type them into Terminal? (eg: gnome-panel)
[08:54] <Slart> mohkohn: then wget in a terminal.. perhaps combined with "watch"
[08:55] <Slart> mohkohn: something like "watch wget www.google.com"
[08:55] <theFATMAN> Shadow, niiiiice, multi-tasking like nothing!
[08:55] <KRaZy_WaKa> damn i wanna be a graphic designer
[08:55] <gordonjcp> Slart: yup
[08:55] <cypha> slart, you mean it will tell you when you run apt-get remove if nothing needs the dependencies?
[08:55] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol if it pays like that i'm in
[08:55] <Shadow420> theFATMAN man I can't wait to get on
[08:55]  * BlackRece green cos only running Pentium D 3.2gh 250GB :(
[08:55] <mohkohn> I will give that a try
[08:55] <legend2440> over2seeu: what do you mean make permanent?
[08:55] <theFATMAN> i run flash, dreamweaver, and PS CS3 w/ video and skype no problem
[08:55] <theFATMAN> oh, and irc of course
[08:55] <BlackRece> of course!! lol
[08:55] <Slart> cypha: yes.. it will print something like "The following packages aren't needed anymore.. to remove them run bla bla bla"
[08:56] <giloedan> theFATMAN:  wine already support ps cs3 ?
[08:56] <theFATMAN> but, back to ubluntu, we need ta do it!!
[08:56] <cypha> packages? the dependencies are called packages slart?
[08:56] <Shadow420> theFATMNA irc can run great on my old P3 PC
[08:56] <over2seeu> legend2440: when I close out terminal they disapear again
[08:56] <theFATMAN> giloeden, naw mate, i dual boot for work. i work at home, so loggin in ta windows feels like goin ta work!
[08:57] <legend2440> over2seeu: the panels disappeared again?
[08:57] <giloedan> theFATMAN: ic
[08:57] <over2seeu> yah
[08:57] <gnomefreak> dependencies are not always packages
[08:57] <Slart> cypha: well.. everything is packages in apt.. you install the firefox package, you install the openoffice package.. you install the wine package
[08:57] <over2seeu> legend2440: yah
[08:57] <theFATMAN> still tryin ta get a feel for GIMP, tho
[08:57] <Slart> cypha: but dependencies in apt just means that one package needs another one to be installed..
[08:57] <cypha> what exactly are dependencies then?
[08:57] <cypha> ohh
[08:57] <cypha> ok
[08:57] <cypha> cool
[08:57] <giloedan> theFATMAN: there is gimpshop rite?
[08:58] <Slart> !apt
[08:58] <over2seeu> legend2440: I type gnome-panel in and they come back
[08:58] <gnomefreak> Slart: libs are not really packages they are packaged but they are unpacked to only be libs
[08:58] <Starnestommy> cypha: a dependency is something that another program depends on
[08:58] <theFATMAN> yeah, but its not uptodate with the new GIMP
[08:58] <cypha> k
[08:58] <cypha> sounds good
[08:58] <over2seeu> legend2440: any way to get around that>
[08:58] <over2seeu> legend2440: ?*
[08:58] <Shadow420> theFATMNA yea I dual-boot on my pc and keep XP to run some of my games because I can't seam to get ubuntu to work decent very much so when I am on the web using java
[08:58] <Slart> gnomefreak: note the "in apt" part.. =)
[08:58] <legend2440> over2seeu: open System>preferences>session>current session tab. is there any line thats says gnome-panel?
[08:58] <cypha> i'm reading this really good tutorial right now...basically so i can learn about running linux through cl
[08:58] <spiral> hello
[08:58] <KRaZy_WaKa> HP Pavilion a305w Celeron 2.7 512MB DDR 20GB HDD for hardy(soon to be 40GB) 120GB NTFS volume for storage
[08:59] <Shadow420> theFATMAN yea I dual-boot on my pc and keep XP to run some of my games because I can't seam to get ubuntu to work decent very much so when I am on the web using java
[08:59] <cypha> i feel that from that i can really learn everything else about the gui things
[08:59] <cypha> thanks slart
[08:59] <spiral> does anyone know if firefox 3.0 rc1 is gonna be integrated in the repositories someday for 8.04 ?
[08:59] <cypha> and thanks Starnestommy
[08:59] <blah561> So, I restart my computer, and I boot into Ubuntu, and now I have millions of lines all over my screen.  Here is a screenshot:  http://bay01.imagebay.com/_upload/img/35/Lines.png
[08:59] <[GM]JT> FUCK  YOU ALL
[08:59] <theFATMAN> KRaZy, kewl...you'll get there, loll
[08:59] <theFATMAN> ?
[08:59] <gnomefreak> spiral: it will be in hardy soon
[08:59] <theFATMAN> wtf?
[08:59] <KRaZy_WaKa> *** HATES intel procs
[09:00] <theFATMAN> LOSER
[09:00] <theFATMAN> lol
[09:00] <syrius_> Question for anyone... I have 2.5 GB of free space on my Ubuntu system, which I'm on now.. I attempted to do a kernel compilation today for the 2.6.24 kernel, and it used up all 2.5gb completely, ran out of space, then crapped out
[09:00] <spiral> gnomefreak: alright, has there been some compilation issues to explain it took so long ?
[09:00]  * BlackRece HATES MICRO$HAFT
[09:00] <blah561> Does anyone have an idea about the lines?
[09:00] <theFATMAN> LMAO
[09:00] <syrius_> any suggestions for compiling without taking up so much space?
[09:00] <gnomefreak> spiral: yes a few bugs that needed to be cleaned up in Xulrunner
[09:00] <KRaZy_WaKa> AMD all the way but the price was right on this HP FREE
[09:00] <blah561> ﻿/_upload/img/35/Lines.png
[09:00] <blah561> Oops.
[09:00] <blah561> ﻿So, I restart my computer, and I boot into Ubuntu, and now I have millions of lines all over my screen.  Here is a screenshot:  http://bay01.imagebay.com/_upload/img/35/Lines.png *
[09:00] <gnomefreak> spiral: the RC1 is in mozillateam ppa for hardy atm
[09:01] <theFATMAN> yeah, i know how it is with Bushie in office
[09:01] <spiral> gnomefreak: all right, so this shouldn't take too long before it gets released to the repos ?
[09:01] <blah561> Is this like a Linux virus?
[09:01] <gnomefreak> spiral: waiting for us to test the final build and may show up in hardy after intrepid build is fixed incase we need to add any fixes to hardy to prevent further issues
[09:01] <over2seeu> legend2440:  huh? I dont see that anywhere?
[09:02] <Starnestommy> blah561: what lines?
[09:02] <gnomefreak> blah561: nothing like you would se ein windows
[09:02] <KRaZy_WaKa> uBLUNTu: Linux for freakin' stoners!
[09:02] <spiral> gnomefreak: well, 'looks like there's still a lot of work / time then ?
[09:02] <blah561> You do not see the lines?
[09:02] <cypha> blah561, problem is your monitor or something
[09:02] <Shadow420> syrius_ if you are going to do like that I would have at least 10GB to comit compiling a kernel
[09:02] <giloedan> where is the deb file stored when we use synaptic to install program?
[09:02] <cypha> the scren shot looks fine
[09:02] <theFATMAN> all the way!
[09:02] <BlackRece> KARZY: that's funny cos I've never paid for intel hardware (hook or crook!) but all AMD h/ware were all heavy on my pocket!!!
[09:02] <Starnestommy> blah561: looks clear to me
[09:02] <legend2440> over2seeu: if you type gnome-panel in terminal they come back?
[09:02] <KRaZy_WaKa> AMD is worth paying for
[09:02] <cypha> or your video card
[09:02] <blah561> Hmm, strange.  I will boot into Windows and see if the same ting happens to Windows.
[09:02] <Starnestommy> giloedan: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:02] <over2seeu> legend2440: yah
[09:02] <Starnestommy> blah561: it might be a bad display setting
[09:03] <giloedan> Starnestommy: thx
[09:03] <BlackRece> KRAZY: I'll smoke to that!! lol
[09:03] <gnomefreak> spiral: not as much as you would think but since xulrunner failed to build last night we have a bit longer i have my hands tied up with other mozilla apps at this time so im not working on xulrunner
[09:03] <over2seeu> legend2440: but when I close out terminal they disapear
[09:03] <gnomefreak> spiral: see bug 233922 for more info
[09:03] <gnomefreak> spiral: assuming the FTBFS was added to that
[09:03] <spiral> gnomefreak: alright, thanks for the precisions
[09:03] <gnomefreak> np
[09:04] <enzo_> hi!!
[09:04]  * BlackRece "INSTALING SYSTEM: 90%"
[09:04] <gnomefreak> spiral: oh hell thats easy fix for intrepid FTBFS
[09:05] <syrius_> Thank you Shadow420. I spent a long time today compiling and I was at a total loss why 2.5gb would not be enough
[09:05] <KRaZy_WaKa> theFATMAN: Gimp is pretty kewl, definitely takes some getting used to... you can do animations with it but it's major pain
[09:05] <syrius_> is that the case with kernel compilations on most distros these days?
[09:05] <gnomefreak> hardy should be pushed by tuesday i say that since this weekend is travling for most developers
[09:06] <spiral> gnomefreak: all right, nice then, I'll wait till then ;-)
[09:06] <gnomefreak> spiral: if im up tomorrow ill find out what the status is for xul
[09:06] <Shadow420> syrius_ well considering all of the packages it has to compile plus others it would have to download to make it complete
[09:06] <KRaZy_WaKa> is 3.0 RC1 after 3.0 Beta 5?
[09:06] <BlackRece> WHAT is a good uBLUNTu / linux version of Macromedia Studio?
[09:06] <gnomefreak> its 4:05 am here atm
[09:06] <Starnestommy> KRaZy_WaKa: it is
[09:06] <theFATMAN> i'm a PS man, cant help it..been doing it for 6 years
[09:06] <spiral> gnomefreak: all right, thanks :-)
[09:06] <gnomefreak> KRaZy_WaKa: yes
[09:07] <syrius_> ok thank you
[09:07] <slytherin> is anyone using lightscribe drive with Ubuntu?
[09:07] <KRaZy_WaKa> i dont suppose update manager will handle that upgrade for me?
[09:07] <legend2440> over2seeu: in sessions>startup programs type gnome-panel in command and call it Gnome Panel. see if that works
[09:07] <legend2440> over2seeu: you'll need to reboot to test it
[09:08] <babolat> Hey all! Anyone who has had or is having problems with setting their clocks right? Well I was. I'm dual-booting XP and 8.04 and since had system clock problems. I ask coz I've found a solution in an oddly simple way. I setup iGoogle as my browser's homepage, and added Date & Time gadget. I saw that it was following my system clock, so I adjusted the time via Gnome panel. The gadget followed it. After restart (even after booting into XP and back to hardy) the
[09:08] <gnomefreak> spiral: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/233922/comments/16  will be final hardy package maybe without the mt at the end
[09:08] <robf_>  ok on installing the mozilla-mplayer firefox doesn't see the plugin,  any idea why it wouldn't?
[09:09] <ReleaseX> After I plugged in my USB keyboard and used it on my laptop, my laptop's keyboard is messed up
[09:09] <gnomefreak> spiral: install it and your good to go until most likely final
[09:09] <spiral> gnomefreak: thanks :-)
[09:09] <shelby> Hey, I'm having a problem with getting programs run through WINE to detect my sound card.  They claim it doesn't exist even though it works with ALSA.
[09:10] <babolat> !keyboard | ReleaseX
[09:10] <slytherin> robf_: Why do you need mplayer plugin?
[09:10] <Br0k3> morning all
[09:10] <robf_> slytherin for .movs etc
[09:11] <robf_> regardless why is firefox not seeing it?
[09:11] <gnomefreak> robf_: check if its in about:plugins if it is make sure you restarted firefox and make sure what you are trying to play will play in it
[09:11] <BlackRece> right, i'm gonna reboot! upon my return, lets see what we can do with "uBLUNTu: Hard n Hazy" brb
[09:11] <robf_> gnomefreak exactly
[09:11] <robf_> it's NOT there.
[09:11] <gnomefreak> robf_: firefox uses the player that best fits the type of media being played by default
[09:11] <slytherin> robf_: gstreamer is good enough, provided you have installed all plugins
[09:11] <robf_> hrm
[09:11] <gnomefreak> robf_: if its not in about:plugins make sure you installed the plugin not the stand alone
[09:11] <legend2440> over2seeu: you there?
[09:11] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol i'm gonna reboot quick too so i can do the fix broken pkgs
[09:12] <cwillu> I'm trying to play with cpusets (specifically, assigning a task to a new cpuset), but I keep getting the error 'no space left on device'.  I don't see anything obviously wrong with how I'm setting it up, can anybody think of something I've probably overlooked?
[09:13] <_2> is qemu normally 99% cpu hog ?
[09:13] <slytherin> cwillu: is there any space left on your root/home partition?
[09:13] <over2seeu> legend2440: I am lost. I can't find my startup programs menu
[09:13] <cwillu> slytherin, this isn't a hard drive, it's a kernel filesystem
[09:13] <_2> cause it's not doing anything that i can tell and top says that %cpu for qemu is 99.4
[09:13] <cwillu> slytherin, like /proc or /sys
[09:14] <ReleaseX> babolat: doesn't really tell me why my keyboard worked fine till I plugged in a USB keyboard
[09:14] <slytherin> over2seeu: System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[09:14] <legend2440> over2seeu: its ok may have better solution read #2 in this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251548
[09:14] <slytherin> cwillu: then please excuse me Ihave no idea
[09:15] <babolat> ReleaseX: i can't tell you either because I don't know. maybe the keyboard cached the other PC's layout, or maybe a bug.
[09:15] <mohkohn> Slart, thanks that 'watch wget www.bbcnews.com seems to be doing the trick.
[09:16] <mohkohn> I will look a bit more for a firefox plugin
[09:17] <slytherin> has anyone used lightscribe drive with ubuntu?
[09:17] <ReleaseX> My laptop's keyboard was working fine til I plugged in a USB keyboard.  Now the right hand letters my laptop's keyboard are registering as numbers.  Any ideas why this is happening?
[09:18] <robf_> gnomefreak but yeh,   mozilla-mplayer is what was installed
[09:18] <over2seeu> well I did something different
[09:18] <giloedan> ReleaseX: try change ur keyboard setting
[09:18] <mohkohn> Now I don't have to sit at the computer clicking on URL's for 1 day 12 hours so that I can download Lotus Domino and Notes for Linux.
[09:18] <over2seeu> legend1440: I started up in recovery mode and repaired pkgs then returned to normal mode
[09:19] <over2seeu> legend2440: that was to you
[09:19] <ReleaseX> giloedan: already tried, no help
[09:19] <cafuego> ReleaseX: you hit the num lock key
[09:19] <legend2440> over2seeu: panel working now?
[09:19] <over2seeu> yah
[09:19] <tuntun> Hi. Whats a good audio editor other than audacity? (audacity messes up the duration value for vbrs)
[09:20] <legend2440> over2seeu: did you try reboot yet to make sure?
[09:20] <cafuego> ReleaseX: hit it again to turn num lock off
[09:20] <over2seeu> yah
[09:20] <ReleaseX> cafuego: doesn't matter if num lock is on or off
[09:20] <over2seeu> will nowe
[09:20] <slytherin> tuntun: see if jokosher works for you.
[09:21] <hp> i have a locked folder in my trashcan
[09:21] <hp> how can i get rid of it?
[09:22] <anirudh0> hp: sudo nautilus
[09:22] <anirudh0> hp: then navigate to trash and delete the folder
[09:23] <hp> anirudh0, there is no file in that trash can
[09:23] <hp> but i know i have like files in there
[09:24] <hp> using hardy btw
[09:24] <over2seeu> legend2440: work still
[09:24] <mhz128> hello world
[09:24] <giloedan> hp: show hidden file
[09:24] <crislsizl> can anyone help me? when trying to use streamtuner, i get the message "»xmms« couldnt be executed"
[09:24] <legend2440> over2seeu: ok good
[09:24] <anirudh0> hp: one sec
[09:24] <mhz128> What is the best IRC client for linux? I am running Konsersation in Ubuntu, but it doesn't compare to mIRC for Windows.
[09:24] <mhz128> Konversation
[09:25] <over2seeu> legend2440: not sure why it worked but I am glad it did. thanks for what you did though.
[09:25] <giloedan> mhz128: xchat
[09:25] <slytherin> crislsizl: it is trying to use xmms for playing stream. You will have to change it in preferences to use totem or your favourite media player
[09:25] <legend2440> over2seeu: yw
[09:25] <slytherin> mhz128: xchat
[09:25] <mhz128> xchat doesn't have as many features as mIRC either...
[09:25] <Slart> !best mhz128
[09:25] <Slart> !best | mhz128
[09:25] <crislsizl> slytherin, im a noob, can u explain me how i can do that?
[09:25] <Slart> !irc
[09:25] <slytherin> mhz128: what features are you talking about?
[09:26] <yesudeep> What should one make of this?  I've tried writing some data to a blank CD, and Brasero shows written progress.  However, when the tray is ejected, the CD is still blank?
[09:26] <hp> anyone here uses globalmenu?
[09:26] <slytherin> crislsizl: I don't have streamtuner right now. Can you just try locating preferences from menu?
[09:26] <giloedan> mhz128: then u can try wine mirc
[09:26] <Slart> yesudeep: isn't there some kind of simulation mode?
[09:26] <mhz128> slytherin: specifically, a script to search DCC search engines, run inside the IRC client
[09:26] <yesudeep> Slart: I don't think I'm simulating
[09:26] <slytherin> yesudeep: did you eject it yourself?
[09:26] <jesse> !usplash
[09:27] <Starnestommy> mhz128: irssi has scripts like that and I think xchat has some too
[09:27] <yesudeep> Nope, I didn't.
[09:27] <cwillu> slytherin, fwiw, it won't let you assign tasks to a cpuset if you haven't assigned a cpu and memory bank to the cpuset first (and it doesn't do anything sensible by default, like assuming you want to use what the parent did if you haven't specified)
[09:27] <mhz128> Starnestommmy: cool, irssi is good stuff?
[09:27] <slytherin> mhz128: it is command line stuff :-)
[09:27] <Starnestommy> mhz128: it is, but the only catch to it is that it's terminal-based
[09:27] <Slart> mhz128: irssi is console based.. if you liked mIRC you probably won't like irssi
[09:27] <slytherin> yesudeep: then it is for sure running in 'dry run' mode
[09:27] <mhz128> ah..
[09:28] <anirudh0> hp: the fix did'nt work for you because the command opened up superuser's trash
[09:28] <anirudh0> hp: which was empty
[09:28] <crislsizl> slytherin, xmms %q is the command for playing streams. how shall i change it
[09:28] <hp> ohhhhhhh
[09:28] <crislsizl> ?
[09:28] <Slart> mhz128: but mirc in wine works just fine.. if that's what you want.. go for it
[09:28] <anirudh0> hp: so the fix is to locate the "trash" folder of your user on your hard disk...and then do a "sudo rm -r " on it
[09:28] <slytherin> crislsizl: try totem %q or if it doesn't work totem %u
[09:28] <mhz128> Slart: ya it works fine in Wine, but my script doesn't :p
[09:29] <anirudh0> hp: but i can't seem to find _where_ nautilus stores the "trash" folder :(
[09:29] <askvictor> is there an easy way to run 2.6.25 on hardy?
[09:29] <crislsizl> with the space in between slytherin ?
[09:29] <Slart> mhz128: ahhh.. well.. perhaps a vm then..
[09:29] <hp> anirudh0, it's ok, i'll look around thanks for your help
[09:29] <qwat> My microphone doesn't work in any application in Ubuntu.
[09:29] <anirudh0> hp:found it!
[09:29] <tsukasa__> why does libnotify require me to sudo? dbus i mean
[09:30] <artworx> how does one enable antialising for fonts in qt4? i see no option for it in qt-config
[09:30] <tsukasa__> to send a message
[09:30] <anirudh0> hp: ~/.local/share/Trash/files is the folder you need
[09:30] <slytherin> crislsizl: yes
[09:30] <Slart> hp: look for folders named .Trash in the home folder or on the same drive the files were originally
[09:30] <anirudh0> hp:trased files are put there...so just cd there via the terminal and delete what you must
[09:30] <hp> anirudh0: thank you
[09:31] <bullgard4> After Gutsy>Hardy upgrading: "detlef@MD97600:~$ cat /etc/issue; Ubuntu 8.04 \n \l" and "detlef@MD97600:~$ uname -a; Linux MD97600 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux". /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16 exists. As well as linux-source-2.6.24.tar.bz2. Why did Grub not offer to startthe kernel 2.6.24?
[09:31] <tsukasa__> why cant i send dbus messages as non root?
[09:31] <cypha> i'm not clear on the difference between apt-get install and aptitude install...i just see that apt-get has more options to do
[09:31] <hp> anirudh0: so annoyed to delete a locked folder
[09:31] <cypha> so why even have/use aptitude install?
[09:31] <crislsizl> slytherin,  its not working
[09:31] <Slart> cypha: I think they both use the same backend.. they are compatible.. you can install with one and uninstall with the other
[09:31] <slytherin> crislsizl: what is error?
[09:31] <cypha> what about --purge?
[09:31] <rajaram_> when I use emerald and modify a theme, giving the emerald --replace command, the process just seems to keep running. Once I quit the process or quit the terminal, I dont get any window borders... any solution?
[09:31] <Slart> cypha: but aptitude has this little nice terminal gui thing going.. some people like that
[09:32] <crislsizl> the same like before
[09:32] <jussi01> cypha: aptitude handles dependences better
[09:32] <cypha> oh
[09:32] <askvictor> cypha: apt-get is purely command line; aptitude includes a terminal gui, but can also run command line
[09:32] <crislsizl> what is xmms? can i install it so it works?
[09:32] <slytherin> cypha: aptitude has nice interface
[09:32] <cypha> how does it handle them better?
[09:32] <cypha> jussi01,
[09:32] <slytherin> crislsizl: you will be installing yet another media player
[09:32] <tsukasa__> why cant i send dbus messages as non root?
[09:32] <slytherin> crislsizl: let me try it myself using totem
[09:33] <stothepizzle> is there a package that will do wifi autoconfig from a terminal?
[09:33] <mhz128> tsukasa_: what is dbus used for?
[09:33] <cypha> thanks Slart, askvictor, and slytherin =)
[09:33] <yesudeep> Sorry.  I got disconnected.
[09:33] <crislsizl> ok
[09:33] <yesudeep> Slart: Nothing is being written to the disc.
[09:33] <gps> someone please tell me some good client for xmms2
[09:33] <jussi01> cypha: have a look at: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[09:33] <slytherin> stothepizzle: what do you mean by autoconfig?
[09:33] <tsukasa__> mhz128, im using notify-send on it
[09:34] <KRaZy_WaKa> yesudeep: you might be trying to burn more than the disc can hold
[09:34] <tsukasa__> mhz128, it only works in sudo
[09:34] <stothepizzle> ideally something where it asks you waht network you want to join, and then asks you to enter the key
[09:34] <stothepizzle> automatically doing the hex conversion and stuff like that
[09:34] <yesudeep> KRaZy_WaKa: I'm burning 868 KB of data and also a CD Image.
[09:34] <yesudeep> Two discs
[09:34] <Slart> yesudeep: I've never had this happen to me before.. are you using the right device to burn? perhaps run brasero in a terminal and see if any errors pop up
[09:34] <slytherin> stothepizzle: don't think there is terminal package for this
[09:34] <stothepizzle> ok
[09:34] <yesudeep> ok
[09:34] <stothepizzle> can anyone link me to how to do wireless config from terminal?
[09:34] <KRaZy_WaKa> i had brasero do that to me
[09:34] <areels_> is it logical to use webmin to configure shorewall?
[09:34] <Slart> !wifi
[09:34] <zubu12> hey i am getting error 17 when grub starts up
[09:35] <KRaZy_WaKa> i was trying to burn 2 albums in mp3 format as an audio CD
[09:35] <slytherin> stothepizzle: read manpage for iwconfig
[09:35] <Slart> areels_: people say "use ebox instead of webmin".. just a heads up
[09:35] <Slart> !webmin
[09:35] <zubu12> cant start my pc anymore
[09:35] <areels_> thanks slart
[09:35] <KRaZy_WaKa> brasero said they would fit
[09:35] <tsukasa_laptop> why cant i send dbus messages as non root?
[09:35] <wong-deso> !ebox
[09:35] <askvictor> what is PPA?
[09:35] <yesudeep> Uhhh.  Ubuntu was mounting it as a blank disc even when it had been written on...
[09:35] <yesudeep> "Blank CD-R Disc"
[09:36] <slytherin> askvictor: personal package archive
[09:36] <zubu12> bazhang: you thr?
[09:36] <sarmisak> ebox is not as configurable as webmin
[09:36] <yesudeep> It wrote the third time.
[09:36] <sarmisak> you might stick with webmin for a while I believe
[09:36] <yesudeep> brb
[09:36] <KRaZy_WaKa> i dunno then did you have the option checked to leave the disc open?
[09:36] <wong-deso> !dosemu
[09:37] <wong-deso> !dosbox
[09:37] <KRaZy_WaKa> wb rece
[09:37] <bullgard4> After Gutsy>Hardy upgrading: "detlef@MD97600:~$ cat /etc/issue; Ubuntu 8.04 \n \l" and "detlef@MD97600:~$ uname -a; Linux MD97600 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux". /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16 exists. As well as linux-source-2.6.24.tar.bz2. Why did Grub not offer to start the kernel 2.6.24?
[09:37] <tsukasa_laptop> why cant i send dbus messages as non root?
[09:37] <rodolfo> guys I'm trying to mount a partition but I got an error message: 'ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ sudo chroot /mnt/hdb1 chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory'
[09:37] <BlackRece> wassap!!!
[09:37] <BlackRece> lol
[09:37] <Slart> !info dosbox
[09:37] <Slart> !info dosemu
[09:37] <BlackRece> I can start addin stuff now!!!
[09:37] <KRaZy_WaKa> kewl good deal
[09:38] <tsukasa_laptop> why cant i send dbus messages as non root? anyone?
[09:38] <rodolfo> what does that mean? this is the output from the fdisk -l command: http://paste.la/1258
[09:38] <KRaZy_WaKa> i think we lost theFATMAN
[09:38] <bullgard4> tsukasa_laptop: Please read man dbus-send
[09:38] <BlackRece> where can i get the uBLUNTu theme then?! lol
[09:38] <gps> please tell me the name of some gui frontend for xmms2
[09:38] <wong-deso> tsukasa_laptop: have no idea
[09:38] <zubu12> hey i ma getting error 17 at grub loader!! what to do now!
[09:38] <slytherin> crislsizl: totem works for me
 cant start my pc anyhow
 bazhang: you thr?
 please help me with this cant start GRUB!!
[09:38] <crislsizl> strange
[09:38] <zubu12> i am on a dif pc
[09:38] <KRaZy_WaKa> maybe we should start a sourceforge project? lol
[09:39] <crislsizl> what is xmms, slytherin
[09:39] <Slart> zubu12: google for it.. it's a very very common grub question.. which I for some reason can't remember the answer to
[09:39] <tsukasa_laptop> bullgard1, how do i check if the session dbus is running?
[09:39] <BlackRece> in that case, what we need is skype!! what app did u say could connect to skype? pidgin?
[09:39] <zubu12> Slart: ok
[09:39] <cypha> sudo apt-get autoremove xyz will remove the dependencies, and will not be lingering in the background auto-doing anything else right? the word auto is always scary =)
[09:39] <KRaZy_WaKa> yeah it should be able to
[09:39] <slytherin> bullgard4: Are you saying that you did reboot after upgrade and there was no option to boot latest kernel?
[09:39] <cypha> jussi01
[09:39] <gps> !xmms2
[09:39] <KRaZy_WaKa> gaim might as well
[09:39] <legend2440> rodolfo: are you sure bash is installed?
[09:39] <KRaZy_WaKa> gaim is ealry pidgin i think
[09:39] <mhz128> Is there a web server package for Ubuntu? Or must I compile something like Apache myself?
[09:39] <slytherin> crislsizl: it is a media player
[09:39] <areels> i think it's not logical to use ebox or webmin because they depends on tons of app
[09:40] <BlackRece> it is/was. lets try
[09:40] <rodolfo> legend2440: how can i be sure of that?
[09:40] <wong-deso> gaim is replaced with pidgin now
[09:40] <bullgard1> slytherin: Yes, sir.
[09:40] <Starnestommy> mhz128: apache2 is available on the package manager
[09:40] <crislsizl> where do i get it
[09:40] <crislsizl> ?
[09:40] <Starnestommy> *in
[09:40] <legend2440> rodolfo: in terminal sudo apt-get install bash
[09:40] <yesudeep> mhz128: lighttpd, nginx, apache, yaws, plenty of them.
[09:40] <crislsizl> what i have to type in to find it?
[09:40] <slytherin> bullgard1: Surprise. Was there any error while upgrading?
[09:41] <cypha> sudo apt-get autoremove xyz will remove the dependencies, and will not be lingering in the background auto-doing anything else right? the word auto is always scary
[09:41] <rodolfo> legend2440: hold on
[09:41] <slytherin> cypha: right
[09:41] <mhz128> interesting, well aptitude doesn't do a very good job of searching package names... try searching 'apache'. no results!
[09:41] <cypha> thanks slytherin
[09:41] <BlackRece> gaim will do if setup manualy, can you tell me if pidgin has skype settings bundled? (or do i have to look myself!? lol )
[09:41] <rodolfo> legend2440: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done bash is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:42] <KRaZy_WaKa> nope no skype
[09:42] <KRaZy_WaKa> i thought it did
[09:42] <yesudeep> aptitude search apache | wc -l: 106
[09:42] <slytherin> crislsizl: I don;t think it is in repositories anymore. Why don't you use totem instead. How hard is to change preferences?
[09:42] <yesudeep> mhz128: Perhaps you don't have all the repos enabled?
[09:42] <zubu12> Slart: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945 will this work?
[09:42] <tsukasa_laptop> how do i check if my session dbus is runnung?
[09:42] <slytherin> BlackRece: Sky bundled with pidgin? You are kidding right?
[09:42] <BlackRece> will have to get skype seperately then.
[09:43] <rodolfo> legend2440: I'm out of ideas. could you give me some tip?
[09:43] <crislsizl> slytherin, which command do i have to type in?
[09:43] <wong-deso> no skype for pidgin
[09:43] <BlackRece> slytherin: not Sky, SKYPE!
[09:43] <slytherin> crislsizl: do you have stream preferences opened?
[09:43] <BlackRece> shame
[09:43] <slytherin> BlackRece: sorry type
[09:43] <BlackRece> no worries
[09:43] <wong-deso> !dbus
[09:43] <mhz128> I don't understand the difference between "Add/Remove Programs" and  the Synaptic Package manager
[09:43] <mhz128> they seem to do the same things
[09:44] <BlackRece> would make life easier having plenty of im's in on app (Gaim/pidgin)
[09:44] <slytherin> mhz128: add/remove doesn't show everything. It is oriented toward newbies
[09:44] <mdh76> mhz128, one is for the gnome desktop, the second is for the entire system
[09:44] <wong-deso> add/remove programs has the program grouped
[09:44] <BlackRece> maybe that could be an additional feature of uBLUNTu! lol
[09:44] <slytherin> BlackRece: If you can reverse engineer skype protocol ... :-D
[09:44] <mhz128> oh i c!
[09:44] <slytherin> BlackRece: which other IM are you looking for?
[09:45] <BlackRece> slytherin: not stoned enuf for that! lol
[09:45] <crislsizl> slytherin,  now yes
[09:45] <BlackRece> just spit-balling ideas, looking for easy/lazy ways of doing things...
[09:45] <wong-deso> Kopete is great too
[09:45] <mdh76> BlackRece, pidgin can do pretty much everything that matters... except skype :O
[09:46] <legend2440> rodolfo: you can't mount /dev/hdb1?
[09:46] <BlackRece> ...that's how new things get invented!
[09:46] <rodolfo> legend2440: nop
[09:46] <ufff> ubunto is such cra[
[09:46] <ufff> crap
[09:46] <slytherin> crislsizl: in those preferences on right side where ever you see xmms %q change it to totem %q
[09:46] <tsukasa_laptop> Unable to get session bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-g5Amjx5l1A: Connection refused
[09:46] <tsukasa_laptop> ^anyone help
[09:46] <robeph> ufff what a grand and exciting life you live..
[09:46] <wong-deso> ufff: dont use it then
[09:46] <ufff> made me reboot and then stopped working
[09:46] <mdh76> ufff, who is ubunto ?
[09:46] <legend2440> rodolfo: can you paste the /etc/fstab file?
[09:46] <ufff> cant see my desktop
[09:46] <zubu12> Slart : you thr?
[09:46] <ufff> ubuntu
[09:46] <ufff> hrhr
[09:47] <slytherin> ufff: please don't use sms speak here
[09:47] <wong-deso> ufff: what vga card u are using?
[09:47] <bullgard4> slytherin: No.
[09:47] <ufff> i thouht its meant to work WITHOUOT HARD WORK ON MY SIDE
[09:47] <muzy> i've another prob..... i install the ati support driver and after a restart i see only black dislpay
[09:47] <stothepizzle> if i have a ubuntu server is there a way i can get it to distribute updates to all the computers in my house?
[09:48] <slytherin> ufff: sure pay dell to do all the hardwork for you. :-P
[09:48] <KRaZy_WaKa> just compile the best progz and package them with
[09:48] <slytherin> bullgard4: did you do upgrade or dist-upgrade?
[09:48] <ufff> i also thought this is a support channel
[09:48] <BlackRece> rename it skunk? nah, too easy
[09:48] <bullgard4> slytherin: dist-upgrade
[09:48] <slytherin> ufff: yes provided you ask support questions
[09:49] <wong-deso> ufff: yes before u said the crap word , lol
[09:49] <mdh76> stothepizzle, setup an apt proxy on that server, point apt on everything else to use it as the source of everything
[09:49] <slytherin> muzy: which card? which driver did you install? where from?
[09:49] <cypha> what's the command to play a sound in the terminal?
[09:49] <cypha> it's not play
[09:49] <JBB> Hey
[09:49] <_2> anyone know how to get qemu to emulate my vidio card correctly ?    i assume it emulates that hw also
[09:49] <muzy> i've instaleld a support driver for ati graphic cards
[09:49] <stothepizzle> mdh76, howto?
[09:49] <slytherin> cypha: aplay?
[09:49] <areels> beep?
[09:49] <cypha> yes
[09:49] <cypha> thanks slytherin
[09:49] <crislsizl> slytherin, can u search for somafm and try to play it? for me it doesnt work
[09:49] <areels> i'd try beep
[09:49] <KRaZy_WaKa> skunk works for an uBLUNTu version of Skype lol
[09:49] <rodolfo> legend2440:  chroot always returns `/bin/bash': No such file or directory. fstab has two lines
[09:49] <mdh76> stothepizzle, you can't push updates afaic but you can use cron to pull
[09:49] <rodolfo> legend2440:  unionfs / unionfs rw 0 0 tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[09:49] <muzy> from ubuntu server
[09:49] <ufff> ok, i got 8800gt, some critical updates forced to reboot. i did that. now i only see half the desktop
[09:49] <slytherin> muzy: which card is it?
[09:50] <muzy> no idea....
[09:50] <muzy> i don't know
[09:50] <slytherin> muzy: why did you install driver?
[09:50] <BlackRece> KRaZy:  lol ;) is ur Hardy same as ver6.10?
[09:50] <legend2440> rodolfo: are you on the livecd?
[09:50] <KRaZy_WaKa> speaking of skype i should install that quick
[09:50] <slytherin> ufff: file a bug
[09:50] <stothepizzle> mdh76: how do i set up the apt proxy?
[09:50] <ufff> its already done by 100 people...
[09:50] <muzy> in the menu graphiccard i've see this update
[09:50] <mdh76> stothepizzle: apt-get install apt-proxy
[09:50] <rodolfo> legend2440: yeah
[09:51] <wong-deso> ufff:  try using vesa as ur driver first
[09:51] <BlackRece> KRaZy: where r u getting it from? (skunk, i mean skype, lol)
[09:51] <muzy> then i see it will make every ati cqard faster in 2D and 3D
[09:51] <_2> rodolfo when you use "chroot" there has to be a normal system that the new root location.   i.e. if you have linux installed on an hdc3  and mount hdc3 on /mnt  then chroot /mnt   should work
[09:51] <KRaZy_WaKa> not sure i've only used 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and 8.04 (Hardy Heron)
[09:51] <muzy> and then i press install
[09:51] <crislsizl> slytherin,  ty its working!!!!!
[09:51] <mdh76> stothepizzle, there's also a package called apt-cacher that seems to qualify too... see which bests works for you
[09:51] <ufff> wong-deso and do i do that?
[09:51] <ufff> i meant HOW
[09:51] <slytherin> muzy: can you paste output of command lspci on pastebin?
[09:52] <ufff> cant do anything, ctrl+f1... bla bla cant do shit with the shell
[09:52] <rodolfo> _2: that's what i thought but it didn't work
[09:52] <slytherin> ufff: it is ctrl + alt _f1
[09:52] <KRaZy_WaKa> !DVD | BlackRece
[09:52] <muzy> command lspci what is this?
[09:52] <BlackRece> i've got the names wrong!! lol I thought I was on feisty (7.04) :-[
[09:52] <wong-deso> edit ur xorg.conf, find the driver text, change it to vesa
[09:52] <rodolfo> _2: please care to take a look: http://paste.la/1258
[09:52] <over2seeu> my gnome desktop manager has dispeared, anyone know how to get it back?
[09:52] <legend2440> rodolfo: in terminal type sudo mkdir /mnt/disk then sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/disk then cd /mnt/disk
[09:52] <wong-deso> change the value to vesa
[09:52] <ufff> ctr+f1 to 6 brings the shell here
[09:52] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol which one are you on?
[09:52] <slytherin> muzy: Do you have access to GUI right now?
[09:52] <joanjoseph> hi, how can i install flash 10 in hardy 64bit? ty
[09:52] <BlackRece> Gutsy!!!
[09:53] <muzy> no i havn't
[09:53] <BlackRece> 7.04
[09:53] <slytherin> joanjoseph: download the installer from adobe website
[09:53] <ufff> oh, and im using 8.04 of course
[09:53] <muzy> but i can log in, but i can't see anything
[09:53] <BlackRece> sry, not thinking straight!! where's that ash-tray?
[09:53] <muzy> only black screen
[09:53] <KRaZy_WaKa> ok you have to add the medibuntu repository to your sources list
[09:53]  * BlackRece looking for a half-smoked spliff!
[09:53] <_2> rodolfo and you have hdb3 mounted where ?
[09:53] <KRaZy_WaKa> Gutsy is 7.10
[09:54] <jussi01> !ot | BlackRece
[09:54] <joanjoseph> ok after i download is there a site where i can follow the procedures on how to install it?
[09:54] <BlackRece> i thought Gutsy = ver 7.0 to 7.9 inclusive
[09:54] <rodolfo> legend2440:  should I  umount the other existing ones?
[09:55] <StevenX> !compiz
[09:55] <slytherin> muzy: Instead of loging in , press ctrl + alt + F1 and then type command lspci, you can return to GUI with ctrl + alt + F7
[09:55] <capucinpeg> al salut
[09:55] <Dr_willis> joanjoseph,  given the beta status of the flash player.. :) i aint touching it for a LONG time. :)
[09:55] <KRaZy_WaKa> hold on a sec rece
[09:55] <mdh76> joanjoseph, I think there's a howto up somewhere... start64.com or something... google for it
[09:55] <_2> rodolfo ?
[09:55] <muzy> thanks hope that gelps
[09:55] <rodolfo> legend2440:  terminal says hdb1 is already mounted
[09:55] <_2> rodolfo and you have hdb3 mounted where ?
[09:55] <legend2440> rodolfo: i don't hink you need to if your on livecd
[09:55] <BlackRece> jussi01: i'm not off-topic! i'm working out what ver of ubuntu I have
[09:55] <JBB> How do I install Compiz Fusion on 8.04??
[09:55] <legend2440> rodolfo: i don't think you need to if your on livecd
[09:55] <joanjoseph> ok i will try. it. thank you
[09:55] <areels> how can i reboot ubuntu server?
[09:55] <slytherin> joanjoseph: the simple procedure is to extract it and run from terminal
[09:55] <gps> please tell me the name of some gui frontend for xmms2
[09:55] <Dr_willis> JBB,  its allready in ubuntu,
[09:56] <mdh76> areels, reboot
[09:56] <astro76> areels: sudo reboot
[09:56] <slytherin> areels: sudo reboot
[09:56] <areels> thanks
[09:56] <jussi01> !version | BlackRece
[09:56] <JBB> Well I feel stupid :p
[09:56] <rodolfo> _2: it's not mounted
[09:56] <legend2440> rodolfo: type mount in terminal to see where its mounted
[09:56] <_2> rodolfo you can only chroot into a compatable system  no chroot linux into windows
[09:56] <wong-deso> JBB: there are som howtos in the forum
[09:56] <JBB> Thanks.
[09:56] <_2> rodolfo maybe you need to explain to me the desired end result
[09:57] <KRaZy_WaKa> or click the system menu then about ubuntu
[09:57] <_2> rodolfo i.e.  why you are chrooting in the first place
[09:57] <mhz128> Anyone know of a weather widget/screenlet that will work in Canada?
[09:58] <legend2440> _2: rodolfo is using livecd and trying to mount /dev/hdb1
[09:58] <over2seeu> gnome desktop manager is not working. how do I get it back?
[09:58] <BlackRece> feisty 7.04?! so gutsy = 7.10?
[09:58] <wong-deso> why do call it root while its on the top species?
[09:58] <KRaZy_WaKa> yes
[09:58] <_2> legend2440 then chroot is not what he needs
[09:58] <legend2440> over2seeu: lol what are you doing there?
[09:58] <BlackRece> omg
[09:58] <legend2440> _2:  i know
[09:59] <rodolfo> _2: I need to browse the partition already mounted right before update the grub list
[09:59] <legend2440> rodolfo: in terminal type sudo mkdir /mnt/disk then sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/disk then cd /mnt/disk
[09:59] <legend2440> _2: this is what i told him to do
[09:59] <Slart> zubu12: sorry.. was off getting something to eat.. hang on.. I'll check that link
[09:59] <wong-deso> !root
[09:59] <over2seeu> legend2440: I don't know what is happening. but everytime I restart my computer something else decides to disapear on me
[09:59] <rodolfo> legend2440: this is the output from the mount command: http://mibbit.com/pb/Zg6wZE
[09:59] <legend2440> over2seeu: oh my
[09:59] <capucinpeg> all qu'elle quin peut me prendre en pv pour déprotégé un pc unika probléme hdd mais je ne parle que le francais et je suis députent sous ubuntu ?
[10:00] <areels> http://127.0.0.1/ebox says not found, why is that?
[10:00] <BlackRece> ok, on to my next question then, (i'm on feisty!! jeez!) KRaZy: how do i add the mediverse source?
[10:00] <_2> rodolfo you don't chroot for that.     sudo mount /dev/hdb3 /mnt     browse /mnt   run grub-install --root-directory=/mnt <device>   where device is something like /dev/hda
[10:00] <over2seeu> legend2440: now my desktop is gone.
[10:00] <Dr_willis> BlackRece,  you mean medibuntu, or universe, or multiverse ? there is no mediverse.
[10:00] <xintron> I can't fastswitch user anymore. It said there was something missing on last boot, what do I need to reinstall?
[10:00] <KRaZy_WaKa> one second
[10:00] <askvictor> is there a way to create shortcuts to chatrooms (e.g. on the panel) for pidgin?
[10:00] <KRaZy_WaKa> medibuntu
[10:01] <KRaZy_WaKa> he needs to get skype
[10:01] <yesudeep> askvictor: Conversation > Add...
[10:01] <wong-deso> over2seeu: go to terminal, and type startx
[10:01] <Dr_willis> !medibuntu
[10:01] <legend2440> rodolfo: ok so cd /mnt/hdb1 then type dir to see files
[10:01] <wong-deso> or ctrl+alt+backspace to restart the x
[10:01] <Dr_willis> legend2440,  dir? is this Dos? :)
[10:01] <KRaZy_WaKa> and i believe you need medibuntu to get skype
[10:01] <_2> rodolfo you don't chroot for that.     sudo mount /dev/hdb3 /mnt     browse /mnt   run grub-install --root-directory=/mnt <device>   where device is something like /dev/hda   <<< did you get this ?
[10:01] <Slart> zubu12: check this link.. it's mentioned in that post too http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#Common_Booting_Errors_and_Some_Possible
[10:02] <KRaZy_WaKa> !skype
[10:02] <KRaZy_WaKa> there ya go rece
[10:02] <legend2440> Dr_willis: lol ok then ls?
[10:02] <MattK> Dr_williis  dir and ls are the same i think but im not sure but i use the "ls" command
[10:03] <over2seeu> wong-deso: it says that I need to remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[10:03] <askvictor> yesudeep: thanks!
[10:03] <wong-deso> askvictor: ADD CHAT
[10:03] <legend2440> i use dir
[10:03] <MattK> its the same tho :) ;)
[10:03] <_2> which dir legend2440
[10:03] <_2> type dir
[10:03] <mhz128> Do certain programs need to be added to the safe Firewall list?
[10:03] <mhz128> does ubuntu have a firewall?
[10:03] <BlackRece> medibuntu is safe? or ... never mind
[10:04] <legend2440> over2seeu: no desktop? are you at command prompt?
[10:04] <jussi01> BlackRece: medibuntu is fine :)
[10:04] <over2seeu> yah
[10:04] <Slart> mhz128: yes.. iptables.. it's not active by default though
[10:04] <over2seeu> legend2440: yah
[10:04] <_2> mhz128 iptables is built into the kernel.  yes.   firestarter i think is the gnome fe
[10:04] <Slart> mhz128: or.. it's active but there are no rules
[10:05] <mdh76> mhz128, the new firewall is called ufw
[10:05] <mhz128> cool
[10:05] <mhz128> how do I manage it?
[10:05] <legend2440> over2seeu: have you tried sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop?
[10:05] <mdh76> mhz128, there's none by default activated, but there's thousands available in the repository
[10:05] <mhz128> I installed a weather screenlet, however it doesn't seem to be connecting
[10:05] <mhz128> oh ok!
[10:05] <_2> mdh76 ufw a new ubuntu-tized fe ?
[10:05] <BlackRece> site just came up. in otherwords its good wares not hacked warez
[10:05] <xukun> hi all
[10:05] <mhz128> what is "fe"?
[10:05] <JBB> Hi
[10:06] <_2> front end
[10:06] <mhz128> ah
[10:06] <_2> or iron "chem"
[10:06] <rodolfo> _2: grub-install --root - directory=/mnt/hdb3 or grub-install --root - directory=/dev/hda ?
[10:06] <_2> rodolfo you added some spaces there dude
[10:06] <surajit> need some knowhow about altering iso images in ubtuntu
[10:06] <blaaah> hey guys, its me again. how do i install nvidia drivers? sudo wont work
[10:06] <over2seeu> legend2440: not yet
[10:07] <mdh76> _2 kinda.  its new in hardy.  but its all command-line (but simple enoguh for grandma) unfortunately it doesn't do QoS or anything like that - planned for Insomniac Iguana or whatever the next revision is
[10:07] <blaaah> krassi@krassi-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.12-pkg1.run
[10:07] <Slart> blaaah: restricted drivers.. nvidia
[10:07] <blaaah> sudo: unable to resolve host krassi-desktop
[10:07] <blaaah> krassi@krassi-desktop:~/Desktop$
[10:07] <_2> rodolfo sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hda
[10:07] <surajit> is there anyway i can alter an existing iso image (to put more files inside the image)
[10:07] <surajit> magic iso in winxp use to do it
[10:07] <_2> rodolfo sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hdb3 /dev/hda    <<<actually
[10:07] <rodolfo> _2: that's weird, since I've mounted on hdb3
[10:07] <Slart> surajit: there's almost always a way.. some ways are longer though
[10:07] <blaaah> so what should i do to make this work? i dont know su password :/
[10:08] <surajit> thanx Slart
[10:08] <_2> rodolfo like i intimated   i had to undo your bogus command.
[10:08] <surajit> can you point me in the right dierction
[10:08] <Slart> surajit: you could always create a new iso with the files from the old one.. and add some in the process
[10:08] <big-g> hey, does anyone know if vmware uses raw disks or does it use disk images only?
[10:08] <rodolfo> _2 ....
[10:08] <Slart> surajit: there's a terminal command called mkisofs I think..
[10:08] <surajit> Slart : the reason i want to alter the old one is because its a bootable format for a recovery cd
[10:08] <Slart> !iso
[10:08] <wong-deso> big-g:both
[10:08] <_2> rodolfo sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/hda    <<< actually  if you mounted like i said.
[10:09] <rodolfo> _2 i just don't get what /dev/hda has to do with /mnt/hdb3
[10:09] <mdh76> blaaah, you'll need to fix your /etc/hosts file first so sudo is happy.  you may need to boot in recovery mode to do that since sudo won't work to give you root privs until you fix it, and you need root to fix it
[10:09] <xukun> how can I connect my s-video of the laptop to the tv? do I need to install -- add something or does it just work out of the box?
[10:09] <_2> rodolfo you have to install grub some place if you want the system to boot.    i.e.  MBR
[10:09] <big-g> which is better when useing raw disk in virtualization, virtualbox or vmware
[10:09] <blaaah> it worked fine in wmware :(
[10:09] <mdh76> blaaah, while you're in the recovery console, chmod /etc/hosts 0444 so other crazy processes don't dick with it
[10:09] <big-g> ?
[10:09] <rodolfo> _2, legend2440: check this out: http://mibbit.com/pb/5ozvLn
[10:10] <xukun> !s-video
[10:10] <_2> rodolfo and your  MBR   is not a partition
[10:10] <wong-deso> big-g: vmware does fine
[10:11] <rodolfo> _2, you mean my masterboorecord is damaged or uninstalled?
[10:11] <pretender> Can anyone tell me how to do a DVD Case insert template in glabels.  Avery 8891. It does not have one
[10:11] <Slart> surajit: apparently there an app called iso master that's supposedly can edit iso's.. never tried it myself though
[10:11] <wong-deso> rodolfo:  why dont u downlod supergrub.iso, u can fix ur grub just in minutes without headache
[10:12] <big-g> which should i recommend to my boss for virtualization...vmware or virtualbox? i use virtualbox but haven't messed around with vmware
[10:12] <_2> rodolfo no.  i mean a boot loader  has to be started by bios.  and bios does NOT read partitions to find a boot loader   it reads the MBR    so you have to imbed grub into the mbr for it  to be the primary boot loader
[10:12] <_2> rodolfo if that's not what you want   don't install it to /dev/hda    put it on /dev/hdb   or /dev/sda  or something
[10:13] <wong-deso> big-g: never tried virtual box, vmware is good
[10:13] <rodolfo> _2, that's what i want
[10:13] <_2> rodolfo which "that" ?
[10:14] <Starnestommy> big-g: I like virtualbox and qemu/kvm, but I've found that xen was fastest even though it was rather hard to set up
[10:14] <abrahan> hi... i need help with ubuntu ultimate
[10:14]  * _2 mentions both yea and nay   and someone says   that's it      how am i supposed to know which "that" they mean...
[10:14] <areels> shorewall doesnt exist on ebox
[10:15] <Flannel> abrahan: We don't support Ubuntu Ultimate.  You should try the real Ubuntu
[10:15] <rodolfo> _2: I want to fix my grub. I can't start up the system, it dies on that initialization screen
[10:15] <wong-deso> !shorewall
[10:15] <big-g> ya, virtualbox is extremely slow for sharing partitionns with linux
[10:15] <_2> rodolfo sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/hda    <<< actually  if you mounted like i said.
[10:15] <abrahan> how to get/install nvidia drivers for a laptop compaq presario f754la?
[10:16] <wong-deso> abrahan: u can download from nvidia website, the driver is one click install
[10:16] <Flannel> !nvidia | abrahan
[10:17] <abrahan> elkbuntu
[10:17] <Briareos> I upgraded my LTSP box from dapper to hardy; did the ltsp-update-...-stuff; deleted the old client files and created new ones; now i want to boot (a client!), i do not get a login screen - instead the console says: mktemp: cannot create temp file /tmp/tmp.[someHash]: Read-only file system
[10:17] <abrahan> somebody there?
[10:17] <abrahan> somebody there?
[10:17] <Briareos> though the tmp directoriies are world-writable
[10:17] <jdavies> !hi | abrahan
[10:18] <Briareos> yes there is - but maybe in a timezone where they still sleep :)
[10:18] <abrahan> help me please, i'm newbie xD
[10:18] <Flannel> !nvidia | abrahan
[10:18] <jdavies> !ask | abrahan
[10:18] <wong-deso> ubottu: abrahan: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:18] <Flannel> abrahan: Go to that webpage, follow the instructions
[10:18] <Dark_Fire> Good morning everyone
[10:18] <Briareos> i am not, but stuck at work on saturday cuz the server needs to be running by monday 7:30 am :D
[10:19] <_2> rodolfo let me explain that command.   1 sudo "runs the following as super user"  2 grub-install "a script designed to make a system bootable via grub=GRand Unified Bootloader" 3 --root-directory "the location that the needed files are to be searched"  4 /dev/hda "the device that the bootloader is to be imbeded onto/into   /dev/hda is most commonly the MBR although it can have other addresses 'sda' for example"
[10:19] <abrahan> yeah, i supuosed it Briareos
[10:19] <abrahan> xD
[10:19] <xintron> I good dock for ubuntu?
[10:19] <Briareos> weather is nice OUTSIDE anyway :(
[10:19] <abrahan> what webpage Flannel?
[10:20] <Flannel> abrahan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:20] <legend2440> abrahan: open system>administration>hardware drivers is there a box in there that says nvidia? if so check the box to enable
[10:20] <rodolfo> _2: I got it. And I only came up with this: http://mibbit.com/pb/5ozvLn
[10:21] <_2> rodolfo k.  looks good.   test it.
[10:21] <abrahan> ok, i0m trying :)
[10:21] <daftman> hi does anyone know how to simulate gnome events through the command?
[10:21] <wong-deso> !compiz
[10:22] <daftman> line
[10:22] <daftman> e.g mute, volume up, shutdown etc?
[10:22]  * mdh76 chuckles politely
[10:22] <rodolfo> _2: I will. hold up
[10:23] <daftman> anyone know how to turn volume up through the command line?
[10:23] <_2> now anyone here a qemu guru ?   i can't get but 640x480x4  out of win95 running in qemu    ???
[10:23] <areels> !webmin
[10:23] <adam7> daftman: try alsamixer
[10:23] <areels> !ebox
[10:24] <daftman> adam7: yes but I want to do it through the gnome interface
[10:24] <Briareos> if one of you can help on the mktemp-problem, please read: http://pastebin.ca/1027782
[10:24] <areels> !shorewall
[10:24] <daftman> alsamixer just change the volume of the system through the back
[10:24] <xintron> I good dock for ubuntu?
[10:24] <areels> !firestarter
[10:24] <adam7> daftman: how do you mean? using alsamixer lets you do it...
[10:24] <_2> !info ufw
[10:24] <daftman> i have media keys that turn the volume up and down
[10:25] <daftman> i want to find out how to do that through the command line
[10:25] <daftman> sending the same keys
[10:25] <T-Man> anybody know how to make removable media automatically mount when it's inserted?  Particularly using usb media card reader..
[10:25] <wong-deso> !sudo
[10:25] <adam7> daftman: ah, try xmacro
[10:25] <mdh76> ufw is like a basic firewall for dummies.  quick & easy to allow/block ip's networks or ports
[10:25] <daftman> i'm trying to set up my remote control to turn gnome volume up and down
[10:25] <T-Man> Using Ubuntu 8.04
[10:25] <_2> daftman ummm showkey  ?
[10:26] <wong-deso> T-Man:  it should do it automatically
[10:26] <T-Man> no
[10:26] <daftman> what does show key do?
[10:26] <legend2440> daftman: open system>preferences.keyboard shortcuts look for volume up down etc
[10:26] <T-Man> I've looked and googled for days but to no avail
[10:26] <_2> daftman admittedly the output is a bit cryptic at first   it 0x"hex number here"
[10:26] <daftman> yep I see 0xa4 etc
[10:26] <Briareos> t-man when it asks you tell it to use "open in window" (or so) as default action
[10:26] <daftman> but I can't get that to work with irxevent
[10:27] <daftman> how do or as a command
[10:27] <legend2440> daftman: you can assign key combinations of your choice
[10:27] <T-Man> I get the error "cannot mount volume.  You are not privileged to mount the volume"  Never happended this way until I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04
[10:27] <daftman> legend2440: i tried looking up the shortcut, i just want to be able to simulate pressing those keys through a command line
[10:27] <mdh76> is the invalid hostname problem with sudo well known?  bercause its going to really tick off lots of people using hardy...
[10:28] <daftman> or through an irxevent
[10:28] <_2> daftman a4 is the hexidecimal output of the key you pressed    so you can find the key code that the system sees.   you can use that info to either make a script for doing the same thing   or change the keymap to have that key do things...   the possiblities are many
[10:29] <T-Man> as a workaround I can use storage device manager to mount as sudo
[10:29] <DaveyJ> quick question: whats the command to wget a range
[10:29] <T-Man> but that's a pain to keep doing that
[10:29] <DaveyJ> like whatever[0000-9999].jpg
[10:29] <daftman> _2: I don't think you understand me right. right now say for example xf86audiomute is set to mute audio in gnome
[10:29] <spxza> DaveJ: you can only glob on ftp servers
[10:29] <daftman> now i want to be able to mute that audio in gnome via a command line
[10:29] <daftman> either through dbus
[10:29] <DaveyJ> oh really?
[10:30] <DaveyJ> hrm
[10:30] <T-Man> Briareos, it doesn't ask, that's the problem
[10:30] <daftman> in kde I can do it via dcop and mixer0
[10:30] <Flannel> mdh76: Which problem is that?
[10:30] <DaveyJ> theres a range of pictures on a site i wanted to download
[10:30] <spxza> DaaveJ: or use a quick bash script
[10:30] <_2> a4_f=164
[10:30] <DaveyJ> well yeah i meant the bash script ;) i'm not good with scripting and i've done something similar before that someone pasted for me
[10:30] <ubuntu> ck der_acid
[10:30] <gaokai__> if I just want to show lines that I need of a text file in the terminal,what should I do?
[10:30] <DaveyJ> lost the command though
[10:30] <spxza> DaveyJ: there may be some shell features that could do it for you
[10:30] <daftman> how do you mute gnome sound
[10:30] <xintron> Any suggestions for a good dock?
[10:30] <daftman> so that the grphical audio picture shows up and mute it
[10:31] <T-Man> xintron, try this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SupportedHardware
[10:31] <daftman> anybody know how to mute gnome sound via the command line?
[10:31] <mdh76> Flannel, something, and I suspect NetworkMangler though I haven't checked, erases the shortname from the /etc/hosts file, and sudo then refuses to grant root access
[10:31] <xintron> T-Man: What?
[10:31] <daftman> without going through alsamixer?
[10:31] <daftman> etc
[10:31] <DaveyJ> spxza: know a way i can find out?
[10:32] <mdh76> Flannel, I fixed mine by booting into recovery console, fixing the hosts file, and chmodding it 0444 ;)
[10:32] <Flannel> mdh76: That'd be a problem with network manager or whatever, but not sudo, and definately file a bug about it.
[10:32] <T-Man> xintron, sorry wrong link
[10:32] <adam7> daftman: I think amixer will do it for you
[10:33] <daftman> adam7: thanks but thats the last resort
[10:33] <mdh76> Flannel, I think I will, I don't want to spend the rest of my days in here describing to n00bs how to use vi to edit /etc/hosts in recovery console ;)
[10:33] <daftman> amixer don't display a little speaker on screen like when you press a mute button on your media keyboard
[10:33] <_2> daftman if you don't want to use that key to do this.  only want a command to mute it.   asoundconf  can probably do that.    i just install aumix and use it.     aumix -v 0
[10:34] <mdh76> Flannel, I'm surprised more people haven't come across it though, since its broken this way out of the box
[10:34] <adam7> daftman: amixer can change the sound stuff via arguments (it isn't the same as alsamixer)
[10:34] <cdavis> Is there a program that will try to print an xml file in a *pretty* way?
[10:34] <daftman> _2: yea i read about that, but I just want to see if there is anyway to send commands to the gnome desktop environment via a command line
[10:34] <daftman> things like eject
[10:34] <daftman> mute
[10:34] <daftman> etc
[10:34] <spxza> cdavis: you can get a stylesheet to transform it
[10:34] <xintron> When having flash on any page viewing with Firefox, I just get a grey box with an arrow, when I click the arrow the flash-banner/game etc shows, how do I get it so it shows from the beginning?
[10:34] <legend2440> daftman: amixer set Master mute?
[10:35] <bullgard4> [Gutsy>Hardy-Upgrade] http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/225046/  I did 'update-grub'. Why does Grub not offer a kernel version 2.6.24 to boot?
[10:35] <adam7> daftman: what do you mean, "send commands"?
[10:35] <_2> daftman then you need to be looking at metacity  and dbus ?
[10:35] <adam7> daftman: eject a cd? just type eject at the cmd line
[10:35] <daftman> send commands and like dcop or dbus
[10:35] <_2> or what ever they use
[10:36] <_2> yeah like dcop
[10:36] <adam7> if you wanna use dbus, you're gonna need to learn some programming, I think
[10:36] <daftman> but dcop only works on kde app
[10:36] <mudd`Hossam> anyone know how to set up postfix/ldap on ubuntu?
[10:36] <daftman> yea that's unfortunate because dcop can be use on the command line
[10:36] <cdavis> spxza, any gui to help do that well?
[10:36] <daftman> instead through some api
[10:37] <_2> daftman like i said look into metacity    i don't do gnome
[10:37] <Flannel> daftman: gnome-settings-daemon does all that.  So check its man page for anything good
[10:37] <ePax> bullgard1: Type uname -r
[10:37] <ePax> bullgard1: That will show what kernel you are using.
[10:37] <anon111> Every time I boot, I have to run "sudo modprobe ath_pci", then "sudo ifconfig ath0 up" to get my wireless to work. Firstly, is there any way to have Ubuntu run this automatically on startup? Also, when I run it, it asks me if I want to display it, or run it in a terminal. Is there a way to automatically make it run it in the terminal? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
[10:38] <bullgard4> ePax: "detlef@MD97600:/boot$ uname -r; 2.6.22-14-generic"
[10:38] <daftman> no man pages for gnome-settings-daemon
[10:38] <copyofjohan> hi, is it a problem to delete all content in /root and copy /etc/skel to /root?
[10:38] <Flannel> copyofjohan: Why do you need to do that?
[10:38] <xukun> how can I use the tv out of my laptop in ubuntu? my video card is ati x300
[10:38] <ePax> bullgard1: Then you have not upgraded to Hardy yet. Or you are booting your old kernel.
[10:38] <_2> daftman and you were correct,  i did misread what you wanted.    being a console user i think a little differently than the avarage ubunteer
[10:39] <spxza> daftman: you could always adjust the volume knob on your speakers :-)
[10:39] <copyofjohan> Flannel: I ran some some programs as root and want to reset /root.
[10:39] <bullgard4> ePax: hihihi
[10:39] <Flannel> copyofjohan: Why do you even have your root account enabled?
[10:39] <legend2440> xukun: what happen when you connect to tv?
[10:39] <daftman> lol spxza: yea that's defeats the purpose of remote
[10:39] <mdh76> hmmm does ubottu know about launchpad bugs?
[10:39] <Flannel> copyofjohan: /etc/skel is probably empty, so just remove all the contents of /root
[10:39] <xukun> legend2440, nothing
[10:39] <ePax> !ati | xukun
[10:39] <copyofjohan> Flannel: I dont.
[10:39] <spxza> daftman: hey, compromises
[10:40] <spxza> lol
[10:40] <daftman> spxza: the aim was to set up everything for the remote
[10:40] <ePax> anon111: It is possible that ubuntu does that for you.
[10:40] <legend2440> xukun: no vertical flip or blue box on tv screen?
[10:40] <copyofjohan> Flannel: but is it a problem?
[10:40] <daftman> and no wireless keyboard doesn't help
[10:40] <juelz> hello. i wanted to change the table_cache setting of mysql. i restarted mysql afterwards but the change does not work. assume i set table_cache=1024, after the restart it is still table_cache=64. what could be the problem? my server config is the following: http://nopaste.biz/42695
[10:40] <Flannel> copyofjohan: Is what a problem?
[10:40] <spxza> daftman: remote? you mean an infared remote?
[10:40] <bullgard4> [Gutsy>Hardy-Upgrade] http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/225046/  I did 'update-grub'. Why does Grub not offer a kernel version 2.6.24 to boot?
[10:40] <_2> copyofjohan you can as root    rm -r /root && mkdir /root -m 700
[10:41] <adam7> copyofjohan: you can always mv /root to /root-old or something and see if any problems result
[10:41] <adam7> bullgard4: make sure that that kernel is installed in the pkg manager
[10:41] <spxza> copyofjohn: what did you do as root, may I ask?
[10:41] <xukun> legend2440, nothing at all
[10:41] <anon111> ePax: When I run "sudo ifconfig", my wireless chipset isn't displayed, but when I modprobe ath_pci, and bring up ath0, and then run "sudo ifconfig", it does work. Thanks for replying to my question. :)
[10:41] <legend2440> xukun: are you connecting with s-video cable?
[10:42] <xukun> legend2440, yes
[10:42] <spxza> anon: you need to tell your box to load the module on bootup
[10:42] <daftman> spzxa: yes
[10:42] <spxza> daftman: oh, LIRC
[10:42] <daftman> tried that
[10:42] <xukun> legend2440, my tv is crt
[10:42] <daftman> lirc don't control gnome events
[10:42] <daftman> only particular apps
[10:42] <spxza> daftman: you want it just for volume control? or everything?
[10:42] <Krohnal> hey
[10:42] <daftman> everything
[10:42] <spxza> daftman: you configure lirc to do whatever you want
[10:42] <kokebok> I've got a Spyder2Suite (screen calibrator), but it doesn't work under Linux. If I connect my screen a Windows Pc to calibrate it, will the settings be saved in the screen, and be correct when I connect it to linux again?
[10:42] <daftman> but volume control first step
[10:42] <ePax> anon111: You have to add modprobe ath_pci modules to start at every start
[10:42] <legend2440> xukun: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[10:43] <legend2440> !paste
[10:43] <xukun> yes
[10:43] <daftman> not that easy to configure lirc when you can't control gnome
[10:43] <anon111> ePax: If I add it to /etc/modules, is that likely to do the trick?
[10:43] <spxza> daftman: that depends on what you want to do
[10:43] <bullgard4> adam7: How can one install a kernel _in_ a package manager? Please elaborate.
[10:43] <kokebok> xukun: Talked to me?
[10:44] <xukun> kokebok, no
[10:44] <spxza> daftman: but, you say everything, so it's a bit tough. What kind of remote is it?
[10:44] <_2> is disk encription supported in dapper ?    i have /dev/hda mounted on /home   and if it's well supported i'd like to encrypt it
[10:44] <_2> ?
[10:44] <Alex9999> hi
[10:44] <ePax> anon111: yeap... gksudo gedit /etc/modules
[10:44] <Alex9999> please someone can help me?
[10:44] <anon111> Thanks - I've just edited, and I'll give it a try. :)
[10:44] <adam7> bullgard4: sorry. Open Synaptic and make sure that the linux-generic package is installed, and the linux-image-2.6.24.16-generic image is installed
[10:44] <xukun> legend2440, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14281/
[10:44] <Krohnal> Just a quick question. If I upgrade my current ubuntu distribution to the new one (8.04 LTS) will all my compiled programs be intact or will I have to set them up all over again ? :)
[10:44] <spxza> daftman: what you could do is write an app that lirc controls, and then send events to gnome
[10:44] <daftman> spxza: the remote is working ok
[10:45] <daftman> but sending the events to gnome is the hardbit
[10:45] <Alex9999> i've problems with Ubuntu Hardy....
[10:45] <spxza> daftman: not hard, fun :-)
[10:45] <Alex9999> i started to use linux a month ago... so i'm a half-beginner
[10:45] <daftman> gnome it's hard because there is no dbus
[10:45] <_2> Krohnal safest to recompile them all against the new libraries
[10:45] <Alex9999> someone can pvt me
[10:45] <daftman> that can be wired at the command line
[10:45] <ePax> !ask | Alex9999
[10:45] <adam7> daftman: if you want to mute the volume :  amixer set Master mute
[10:46] <Krohnal> _2, thought so :(
[10:46] <BlackRece> k!paste
[10:46] <BlackRece> !paste
[10:46] <Alex9999> ubottu ok!
[10:46] <_2> Krohnal you can "try it" and only rebuild what breaks...   not reccomended   but neither is installing non-ubuntu packages
[10:46] <bullgard4> adam7: Synaptic reports that linux-generic 2.6.24.16.18 is installed.
[10:47] <T-Man> I get the error "cannot mount volume.  You are not privileged to mount the volume"  This never happened until I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04
[10:47] <adam7> bullgard4: ok, now we should check /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:47] <_2> Krohnal if any of them are mission critical,  i'd rebuild them.
[10:47] <legend2440> xukun: i too have ati card. to get tv out to work i added line to xorg.conf   Option	        "TVFormat" "NTSC-M" here is my xorg.conf  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14282/
[10:47] <fserve> there is a way to use speedstep on a celeron m5XX? (i used to have it on my old celeron m380... with p4-clockmod)
[10:47] <adam7> bullgard4: make sure there is a line that reads ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[10:48] <Alex9999> I've this problem. In my Ubuntu Hardy, i can't add any custom session . if i start gnome-session-properties i CANT see any "ADD" button. in that tab i see only "Save current running programs" - I need to create alternative session for the same user because in one of this session i've to remove any graphics effect. Can anyone tell me how do i?
[10:48] <Krohnal> _2, k. Thankfully it's only 2 programs (egdrop and pisg) ehhe
[10:48] <daftman> adam7: yes i'm doing that now
[10:48] <daftman> thanks
[10:48] <mdh76> Flannel, my bug is bug 19775 from 2005 :)  I marked 234111 as a dupe of it too
[10:48] <BlackRece> Help, I can't do apt-get update!! see link http://paste.ubuntu.com/14284/
[10:48]  * mdh76 finally had a use for his launchpad account
[10:48] <T-Man> anybody know how to make removable media automatically mount when it's inserted?  Particularly using usb media card reader..
[10:48] <Yaksha> Anyone around can help me with a question about using the terminal?
[10:48] <BlackRece> all i did was add the medibuntu to wget
[10:49] <adam7> BlackRece: did you use sudo before that command?
[10:49] <_2> Krohnal yeah i'd rebuild them.  you don't want to cause a security hole but mismatching libs
[10:49] <bullgard4> adam7: Synaptic reports that the DEB program package linux-image-2.6.24-generic version 2.6.24-16.30 is installed.
[10:49] <_2> s/but/by/
[10:49] <Krohnal> _2 :)
[10:49] <BlackRece> yup
[10:49] <mdh76> other than getting chicks, of course
[10:49] <legend2440> xukun: are you trying to use tv capture card or trying to play movies on computer and watch on tv?
[10:49] <adam7> bullgard4: ok -- did you check on /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[10:50] <qwcdex> Hello
[10:50] <qwcdex> I need a help to translate a youtube video in english language , somebody can help-me ?
[10:50] <ePax> !ask | Yaksha
[10:50] <qwcdex> he doesn't have subtitle,lyric
[10:51] <cOzAtS> hi all! anyone to help me fix my grub?
[10:51] <ePax> qwcdex: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:51] <bullgard4> adam7: /boot/grub/menu.lst does not include a title line with 2.6.24.
[10:51] <qwcdex> ePax that's ok i'll be there
[10:51] <adam7> bullgard4: as one would expect-- does it have this line? : ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[10:51] <xukun> legend2440, I want play movie on my laptop on tv. I have no capture card
[10:51] <LogiTech> MY normal screen resolution is 1024X768 but pc is changing the resolution to 1280X960 ALL THE TIME........HOW TO FIX THIS??
[10:51] <adam7> !caps | LogiTech
[10:52] <legend2440> xukun: are you in Netherlands? you may need to us PAL instead of NTSC. i'm not sure
[10:52] <ePax> bullgard4: It seems like you have not upgraded your system. Type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in your terminal.
[10:52] <juelz> hello. i wanted to change the table_cache setting of mysql. i restarted mysql afterwards but the change does not work. assume i set table_cache=1024, after the restart it is still table_cache=64. what could be the problem? my server config is the following: http://nopaste.biz/42695
[10:52] <ePax> bullgard4: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:52] <spxza> PAL pretty much everywhere outside of USA
[10:52] <bullgard4> adam7: /boot/grub/menu.lst includes a line "### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST".
[10:52] <leetsweden> Hi
[10:53] <ijusten> how do I make nvidia-xconfig run as a root?
[10:53] <Sturmeh> hy
[10:53] <Sturmeh> every time?
[10:53] <InMyLife> Hello, I'm a new user to ubuntu and I have an enquiry...I used to update manager to download updates, and everything went smoothly. After the install was complete, I was asked to restart the computer, however, as I was busy doing something else, I did not restart immediately. Then at one point, my ubuntu froze up, and I ended up using force-shutdown to turn off my computer. Is there any possibility that the update got corrupted? I re-ran update
[10:53] <adam7> bullgard4: hm, ok -- try this: sudo mv /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.broken, and then sudo update-grub
[10:53] <Sturmeh> or just once ijusten
[10:53] <ijusten> Every time
[10:53] <_2> jussi01 is there no factoid on disk encryption or am i just overlooking it ?
[10:53] <Sturmeh> InMyLife if update is "corrupted" it will be evident next time you try to update
[10:53] <legend2440> xukun: yes that is what i use tv out for. to play movies on computer and watch on tv. i use mplayer and had to try different video drivers in mplayer preferences to get it to work
[10:53] <LogiTech> why no1 answearing?
[10:53] <xukun> legend2440, yes thanks I will
[10:54] <adam7> InMyLife: if the updates finished installing before the computer crashed, you should be fine
[10:54] <Sturmeh> InMyLife yeah it's fine
[10:54] <xukun> legend2440, I will let you know
[10:54] <xintron> Is there an easy way to install mono on ubuntu?
[10:54] <Sturmeh> ijusten does it normally require sudo to work?
[10:54] <legend2440> xukun: ok
[10:54] <Alex9999> I've this problem. In my Ubuntu Hardy, i can't add any custom session . if i start gnome-session-properties i CANT see any "ADD" button. in that tab i see only "Save current running programs" - I need to create alternative session for the same user because in one of this session i've to remove any graphics effect. Can anyone tell me how do i?
[10:54] <cOzAtS> i need step by step instruction to set up my grub
[10:54] <mdh76> xintron, let your mother use it?
[10:54] <anon111> ePax: Adding ath_pci to /etc/modules worked - thanks for your help! :D
[10:54] <Sturmeh> cOzAtS editing grub?
[10:54] <InMyLife> Yea, it had finished installing and prompted for the restart by the time it crashed. So I don't need to perform any further actions right?
[10:55] <cOzAtS> Sturmeh: yes
[10:55] <ePax> InMyLife: Since ubuntu asked for restart it means that it has updated your system. You whould have restarted your comp at once but i dont thik that its a big deal.
[10:55] <ijusten> Sturmeh, I installed xserv and afterwards when trying to run nvidia-settings it asks to add nvidia-xconfig to x configuration file
[10:55] <ijusten> but I have no idea how to it :)
[10:55] <Sturmeh> no it's fine InMyLife just remember when you crash to do this... "Alt+PrtScn~REISUB"
[10:55] <ePax> anon111: You welcome. You can get ath0 to auto start as well.
[10:55] <InMyLife> ok, what does that do?
[10:55] <bullgard4> adam7: "...; Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic; Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic; Found kernel: /boot/memtest86+.bin; Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done"
[10:55] <Sturmeh> cOzAtS what did you want to change?
[10:56] <T-Man> what's the best way to backup my /home before I do a fresh Ubuntu install?
[10:56] <anon111> ePax: It did that automatically. :)
[10:56] <Sturmeh> T-Man just copy the whole "USERNAME" folder somewhere safe
[10:56] <ePax> InMyLife: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade and see if your system is up to date.
[10:56] <adam7> bullgard4: that should do it then -- check /boot/grub/menu.lst before you reboot to make sure that there is a title line for 2.6.24 in there, so you don't get stuck not being able to boot
[10:56] <generic> hey i installed ubuntu 8.04 when ever i reboot my machine my resolv.conf file removes what to do?
[10:56] <ePax> anon111: Nice (;
[10:57] <Sturmeh> cOzAtS ??
[10:57] <InMyLife> hold on i'll brb, i actually have to get on the right OS
[10:57] <_2> T-Man you could tarball it or disk image it and store it on a windows machine even
[10:57] <T-Man> Sturmeh, when I do a fresh install will there be an option to create /home as a seperate partition?
[10:57] <cOzAtS> i had an ide disk which during install was recognised as boot drive (hda) but my win +ubuntu install is on sda (i think) and i need to set this straght cause i cant login to win anymore
[10:57] <ePax> generic: Edit your resolv conf as root and it should stay the way it is. sudo -s
[10:57] <Sturmeh> you mean it won't boot into Win when you click "Windows" cOzAtS ?
[10:57] <_2> T-Man sorry you said safe.  disreguard that.
[10:57] <T-Man> I think my upgrade through synaptic hosed
[10:57] <cOzAtS> yes ntldr missing
[10:58] <generic> i make very first time as root
[10:58] <Sturmeh> T-Man you need to do a manual install, and assign a partition to the /home directory
[10:58] <leetsweden> .
[10:58] <cOzAtS> first it grub would load i try to foolw the fix with the live cd and now win wont boot
[10:58] <T-Man> sweet
[10:58] <Sturmeh> also one to "/" root, and "SWAP" <-- make that logical
[10:58] <Sturmeh> just install x-chat in the live session if u are not sure T-Man
[10:58] <T-Man> logical
[10:58] <ePax> c0zAts: What win do you use?
[10:58] <T-Man> ok
[10:58] <cOzAtS> xp pro
[10:59] <_2> Sturmeh logical ?
[10:59] <bullgard4> adam7: menu.lst seems to be all right now: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/225079/
[10:59] <BlackRece> ok, still trying to sort out skype via mediverse, following instructions gives me this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/14285/
[10:59] <ijusten> sturmeh, so, any ideas on my problem?
[10:59] <Sturmeh> T-Man "/" and "/home" should be Primary Partitions, "SWAP" can be Logcal partition
[10:59] <T-Man> i see
[10:59] <ijusten> because as long as I can't make that work, everything else on my screen looks like shit
[10:59] <T-Man> i get it
[10:59] <Sturmeh> ijusten it's a problem with the nvidia drivers not editing your config
[10:59] <_2> Sturmeh why can't / and home be logical too ?
[10:59] <ijusten> how would you start resolving it? :)
[10:59] <Sturmeh> _2 you can't boot off logical partitions
[11:00] <adam7> bullgard4: yeah, you look pretty good
[11:00] <bullgard4> adam7: And now re-boot?
[11:00] <_2> Sturmeh linux doesn't care where it lives
[11:00] <T-Man> man.. reconfiguring everything is goona be a pain
[11:00] <ePax> c0zAts: Search on google for fixboot. You need windows cd to be able to fix that problem. but its not big deal.
[11:00] <_2> Sturmeh you can have / on a logical   or even on no partition at all
[11:00] <adam7> bullgard4: yep
[11:00] <Dr_willis> _2,  i was thinking the same thing.. but i always use all primaries. :)
[11:00] <Sturmeh> ijusten, in nividia-config you should try to "save settings to X" then copy the preview it gives you and update the x config manually
[11:00] <bullgard4> adam7: I will be back in 10 mins.
[11:00] <Sturmeh> _2 my bad, /boot needs to be primary no?
[11:00] <adam7> bullgard4: hopefully ;)
[11:00] <_2> Dr_willis yeah the guy missed that one.
[11:00] <T-Man> dual monitors, mouse options... ugh could go on and on
[11:01] <_2> Sturmeh no.
[11:01] <ijusten> sturmeh, it doesn't allow me to do that before I edit the xconfig
[11:01] <Sturmeh> what bootloader are we talking about
[11:01] <Alex9999> I've this problem. In my Ubuntu Hardy, i can't add any custom session . if i start gnome-session-properties i CANT see any "ADD" button. in that tab i see only "Save current running programs" - I need to create alternative session for the same user because in one of this session i've to remove any graphics effect. Can anyone tell me how do i?
[11:01] <_2> Sturmeh grub
[11:01] <_2> Sturmeh or lilo
[11:01] <Sturmeh> grub i suppose can boot off a logical partiton
[11:01] <ePax> Sturmeh: Before you do any changes to your X, save one working copy. In case something goes wrong. cp xorg.conf xorg.conf-copy
[11:01] <Sturmeh> not me ePax tell ijusten
[11:01] <T-Man> wheres the best place to get the ubuntu hardy image so I can burn a cd?
[11:01] <_2> Sturmeh lilo can even boot without a partition
[11:02] <ePax> Sturmeh: Sorry then :D
[11:02] <_2> Sturmeh that's how mine is setup.
[11:02] <ijusten> when I try to run nvidia-settings, it says that I can't do that before I ad "nvidia-xconfig" to x configuration file..
[11:02] <Sturmeh> lol, _2 that's news to me, i once tried installing ubuntu on a logical partiton and no luck
[11:02] <ePax> T-Man: www.ubuntu.org
[11:02] <Sturmeh> why even bother making primary partitions then _2?
[11:02] <_2> Sturmeh well live and learn   :)
[11:02] <ePax> !nvidia | ijusten
[11:02] <Sturmeh> _2 and the answer to the other question?
[11:03] <leetsweden> ...
[11:03] <legend2440> T-Man: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[11:03] <_2> Sturmeh "<Sturmeh> why even bother making primary partitions then _2?" <<< that one ?   no reason i can think of.
[11:03] <T-Man> ty legend2440
[11:03] <Dvyjones> I get the follorwing boot error: "wlan0: error fetching interface information: Device not found", also the wlan0 doesn't exist, but the network card is detected. How do I assign wlan0 to the network card on 8.04?
[11:03] <Dr_willis> _2,  its how the hard drive 'standard' grew over the years... at one time there was only primary partitions. :)
[11:04] <Dr_willis> _2,  or so my reading of 'history of computers 101'  seems to imply
[11:04] <adam7> _2: Sturmeh: Windows will only install on primary partitions, if that is of any concern
[11:04] <_2> Sturmeh windows would cry about it if you ran it and tried to look at the disk without any primary.
[11:04] <KrimZon> is setting up apache/mysql/php in hardy ontopic here?
[11:04] <_2> adam7 yeah that ^
[11:04] <ijusten> I have a backup, epax, but before I installed xserv
[11:04] <Dr_willis> _2,  why not ask.. WHY only 4 primaries... why extended/logical.. :)
[11:04] <ijusten> And I kind of need xserv
[11:04] <adam7> KrimZon: sure
[11:04] <ijusten> so to make everything work I need to know how to add the line
[11:04] <Sturmeh> _2 Logical partitions are containted within a Primary partition anyway, i guess it's only logical :P
[11:05] <_2> Dr_willis exactly.  and i have made up to 8 primaries   but only my bootloader liked it.
[11:05] <ijusten> It gives the instructions but it assumes I know the commands, which I dont
[11:05] <T-Man> I wonder where my nearest mirror would be
[11:05] <ePax> ijusten please look at this webpage. It explains how to install nvidia and ati drivers
[11:05] <Dr_willis> _2,  oh? ive never seen an app that would let me make more then 4
[11:05] <ePax> !nvidia | ijusten
[11:05] <_2> Sturmeh extended actually  but yes.
[11:05] <Sturmeh> u can't boot off logical partitions with all bootloaders, that's all i know
[11:05] <KrimZon> ive followed a guide i've found on setting up apache/mysql/php but at the moment i can't get php files to actually execute, firefox just tries to download them, and they get the source rather than output
[11:05] <_2> Dr_willis bootitNG does.
[11:05] <Sturmeh> bootitNG is scary
[11:05] <Sturmeh> :O
[11:06]  * T-Man needs to take linux classes
[11:06] <legend2440> T-Man: where are you?
[11:06] <T-Man> ware, ma
[11:06] <_2> Sturmeh heh   yeah.   i like it.
[11:06] <Sturmeh> _2 you use it?
[11:06] <ijusten> ubottu, I have done that, and it worked dandy for two months before I put in another screen, decided that I wanted separate desktops and not just to expand the previous one and installed xserv
[11:06] <ijusten> well, epax then
[11:06] <T-Man> ubottu is intelligent :)
[11:06] <ePax> KrimZon: try to ask in #apache
[11:07] <Sturmeh> ubottu, i think i have a crush on you
[11:07] <Sturmeh> SOMG
[11:07] <Sturmeh> lol
[11:07] <legend2440> T-Man: maine? mayb portland state univeristy?
[11:07] <_2> Sturmeh only if i mess a disk up now days.  but years ago i used it to boot several ms installs    in my prelinux days.   10 years ago
[11:07] <mudd`Hossam> anyone know how to set up postfix/ldap on ubuntu?
[11:07] <ePax> ijusten: have you tryed this guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:07] <Sturmeh> mayvbe if it was free _2
[11:07] <T-Man> maybe, will try
[11:07] <ijusten> epax, still nothing about xserv
[11:08] <_2> Sturmeh the copy i got was free,  it started off free.
[11:08] <cOzAtS> ePax:  i need step by step insructions please spear me 5 mins
[11:08] <_2> Sturmeh about 2 years later it went comerical
[11:08] <Sturmeh> cOzAtS do u know where windows is cOzAtS?
[11:08] <Sturmeh> yeah gay _2
[11:08] <Sturmeh> ( sorry )
[11:08] <cOzAtS> Sturmeh: yes
[11:08] <xintron> Is it possible to make a "shortcut" that runs a specific command in the terminal and also, removes the menu from the terminal?
[11:09] <funkyhat> KrimZon: which guide did you follow?
[11:09] <legend2440> T-Man: sometimes your better off using torrent files
[11:09] <T-Man> legend2440, I think there is a way to run a ping test on the list of servers
[11:09] <Sturmeh> um xintron not sure, why would you want to remove the menu?
[11:09] <adam7> xintron: if you use gnome-terminal and profiles, you should be good (profiles let you change the look of the gnome-terminal)
[11:09] <KrimZon> funkyhat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:09] <_2> xintron yes.    but if you want the menu permanently removed there is an option in the gnome-terminal to do that too
[11:09] <Sturmeh> ah adam7'
[11:09] <T-Man> I found it
[11:10] <InMyLife> hi sorry
[11:10] <cOzAtS> ﻿ive messed app device.map and menu.lst i think and i dont understand the ouput of fdisk -l
[11:10] <Sturmeh> cOzAtS put it on ubuntu paste
[11:10] <leetsweden> ...
[11:10] <Sturmeh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[11:10] <adam7> xintron: gnome-terminal --window-with-profile=PROFILENAME               Open a new window containing a tab with the given profile. More than one of these options can be provided.
[11:11] <Sturmeh> tell us the link when ur done cOzAtS
[11:11] <InMyLife> sturmeh, you asked me to do the sudo apt-get update command
[11:11] <leetsweden> .
[11:12] <ePax> c0zats: Get your windows xp cd. restart your computer and boot from the cd. When you get option to install system KLICK UNDER IT to repair system. You have to get your cmd window from CD to be able to run 2 commands. When you DO get your CMD with your XP CD type fixboot c: and fixmbr ... You can search on google for more deailded howtos thay are planty of them.
[11:12] <InMyLife> to check whether the updates have been correctly installed.
[11:12] <Sturmeh> not me but what happened?
[11:12] <ePax> cOzAtS: Does your ubuntu starts?
[11:12] <InMyLife> oh it must've been ePax then
[11:12] <Sturmeh> ePax it does, he can't boot windows
[11:12] <Sturmeh> i got him to print the output of "fdisk -l" to print.ubuntu.com
[11:12] <Sturmeh> eh paste.*
[11:13] <_2>    someone should make a pastebin script for the ubuntu pastebin   so people could just pipe output to the pastebin      run blah | pastebin.sh        ya know ?
[11:13] <InMyLife> I got a bunch of lines starting with "Hit" and "Ign", such as Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed Release.gpg
[11:13] <cOzAtS> Sturmeh:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/14286/
[11:13] <Sturmeh> windows xp or vista?
[11:13] <cOzAtS> sda is the win-ubuntu partition
[11:13] <cOzAtS> xp pro
[11:13] <Slart> _2: there is one
[11:13] <ePax> InMyLife: As i have told you. Since ubuntu asked for restart after updates your system can not have corrupted updates because they where allready installed.
[11:13] <bullgard4> adam7: I am back. "detlef@MD97600:~$ uname -r; 2.6.24-16-generic" But my framebuffer console has disappeared.
[11:14] <_2> Slart ?
[11:14] <Slart> !info pastebinit
[11:14] <adam7> bullgard4: that's interesting -- which one?
[11:14] <Slart> !into webboard
[11:14] <InMyLife> okok
[11:14] <InMyLife> thanks
[11:14] <Slart> !info webboard
[11:14] <Sturmeh> cOzAtS these all partitions on one harddrive?
[11:15] <ePax> c0zats: it does not matter where you have your win... your ubuntu starts but you have to fix new MBR for your XP. Please read what i have told you above.
[11:15] <_2> Slart ok.    if i ever upgrade i'll leave my script behind then.
[11:15] <cOzAtS> sda has 2 partitions the windows and the ubuntu-in ubuntu all are in 1 pertition(boot-root-home etc)
[11:15] <Sturmeh> yeah listen to ePax
[11:15] <ePax> InMyLife: You welcome.
[11:15] <cOzAtS> the other drives are storage
[11:15] <InMyLife> just wondering, how stable is ubuntu designed to be? what would be a typical frequency of freezes?
[11:15] <Sturmeh> cOzAtS listen to what ePax said, it will fix it...
[11:16] <Sturmeh> InMyLife depends how you use it, the casual user won't let it freeze, infact it freezes alot less than windows on any level
[11:16] <cOzAtS> ive tried that...:( it loses grub after fixboot and fixmbr
[11:16] <Sturmeh> then you reinstall grub?
[11:16] <big-g> anyone here use shorewall?
[11:17] <Sturmeh> InMyLife it's pretty stable once you get to know it, it's got many tools for the poweruser.
[11:17] <cOzAtS> reinstalling the grub gives me an "ntldr missing"
[11:17] <ePax> InMyLife: Sometimes if they are more updates to system a reboot is required to get everything to work. Smaller upgrades or non system upgrades does not require restart. Ubuntu which is installed properly is stable as one OS can be.
[11:17] <Sturmeh> InMyLife just remember if "X" crashes, and you can't fix it, just hit Alt+Ctrl+backspace
[11:18] <Sturmeh> :D
[11:18] <_2> InMyLife  trying to run something for the first time and things misconfigured   or a terrably broken app    would be just about the only "freeze"     and i have done that i think 3 times total in 9 years
[11:18] <cOzAtS> can you tell me where is the win partition to edit it in the menu.lst?  (hd0,1)? ﻿ (hd0,2) etc?
[11:18] <leetsweden> .
[11:18] <ePax> c0zats: Where do you have ubuntu and where do you have XP? On what disks? C: D?
[11:18] <Sturmeh> cOzAtS where is ubuntu in terms of hd(0,0) ?
[11:18] <_2> InMyLife  and i'm not even a linux salesman  :)
[11:19] <Sturmeh> _2 linux employs salesmen?
[11:19] <dgz> i swear people, vi is the most piece of shit software EVER
[11:19] <Sturmeh> :P
[11:19] <BlackRece> what on earth am i missing!!! i type "sudo apt-get install skype" (i'm running fiesty on a amd) and i'm stuck on the agrement screen
[11:19] <cOzAtS> ubuntu (hd0,4) win i cant understand
[11:19] <_2> Sturmeh :)
[11:19] <Sturmeh> dgz AGREED
[11:19] <Sturmeh> lol
[11:19] <Sturmeh> still better than dos
[11:19] <bazhang> language please dgz
[11:19] <ePax> Black: Type "Y" or "yes"
[11:19] <anirudh0> dgz: install vi-full...rather than the pathetic thing that comes bundled with ubuntu
[11:19] <Sturmeh> cOzAtS try "hd(1,0"
[11:19] <Sturmeh> cOzAtS try "hd(1,0)"
[11:19] <ePax> BlackRece: : Type "Y" or "yes"
[11:19] <Sturmeh> missed a bracket lol
[11:20] <dgz> i was editing hosts when that shit made me crazy
[11:20] <cOzAtS> thnx ill give it a try
[11:20] <cOzAtS> brb
[11:20] <dgz> and i have no internet no more in linux
[11:20] <dgz> what the fuck
[11:20] <ePax> dgz: Language please.
[11:20] <bazhang> !ohmy | dgz
[11:20] <BlackRece> am i that stupid!! omg! it only sed ok at the bottom!
[11:20] <Sturmeh> no anirudh0 it's supposed to discourage the editing of important files
[11:20] <bazhang> stop cursing dgz
[11:20] <dgz> ok, i will
[11:20] <Sturmeh> dgz it's easy, use A not I
[11:20] <_2> dgz vi is not for beginners.  after you learn how it works it's not bad.   i still prefer other editors but i understand vi and it's a powerful editor
[11:20] <Sturmeh> dgz you want to use "append" not "insert" insert is terrible
[11:20] <InMyLife> haha whoops , I just had to try that key combination.  Oh yea, one more question...If i downloaded Firestarter from Add/Remove, it's on an always-on basis right? Even when the program isn't graphically showing.
[11:20] <dgz> it is bad
[11:21] <dgz> i type wrong letter and oh nooo
[11:21] <Sturmeh> haha InMyLife
[11:21] <leetsweden> .
[11:21] <Sturmeh> you want a better one InMyLife?
[11:21] <bullgard4> adam7: I am missing 6 framebuffer consoles 160x50. In Gutsy I had made an entry 'vga16fb' in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules/ and blacklisted vesafb in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.
[11:21] <Sturmeh> dgz USE APPEND
[11:21] <anirudh0> dgz: thats because the default thing that comes with ubuntu has lots of stuff missing..like in insert mode the cursor keys cause vague key combinations to show up
[11:21] <_2> dgz only because you don't yet understand it.    don't blame an airplain for pilot error.
[11:21] <ePax> InMyLife: Firestarter if just gaphical app for firewall. Ubuntu firewall is installed and running from the beggining.
[11:21] <dgz> i go to the line i want to edit, i hit <i> and start editiong
[11:22] <Sturmeh> ah yea, dgz you are refering to the letters not dissapearing when you backspace... lol just write over them to get rid of them
[11:22] <anirudh0> dgz: you have to replace vi-tiny with vi-full..if you want to use it to its full potential
[11:22] <Sturmeh> dgz don't use "I"
[11:22] <Sturmeh> dgz use "A"
[11:22] <BlackRece> er, its not working, type y and yes and evn ok but nothing! still stuck
[11:22] <adam7> bullgard4: sorry, I don't know about framebuffers :( ask the question to the channel?
[11:22] <bullgard4> adam7: Yes, I will. --  Thank you for your help.
[11:22] <dgz> HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO USE ANYTHING ELSE SINCE I DONT HAVE INTERNET ON IT NOW! looks like hosts is broken now
[11:22] <_2> [ins] to go into insert mode
[11:22] <anirudh0> dgz: vi is not you run of the mill editor...its much more powerful...right now you are better off with nano or gedit
[11:22] <InMyLife> Is there a better firewall for ubuntu? epax, if there's already an inherent firewall installed, is firestarter required?
[11:23] <xukun> legend2440,
[11:23] <Alex9999> HI! please, see this url (table 8-21 row4) - it says i've a "ADD BUTTON" to add a  SESSION in gnome so i can customiza different session for the same user.  I'VE UBUNTU HARDY and i DON'T HAVE THAT BUTTON. Can someone help me??
[11:23] <legend2440> xukun: yes?
[11:23] <dgz> and it keeps telling me i have a few .swp files of hosts now
[11:23] <_2> dgz nano is easier for beginners than vi
[11:23] <Sturmeh> i herd when you capatilize certain parts of ur message, people actually read it
[11:23] <dgz> and i dont how to delete them
[11:23] <Sturmeh> _2 he can't use nano for certain things
[11:23] <anirudh0> dgz: swp files come in when you shutdown vi improperly.
[11:23] <Sturmeh> _2 visudo for example
[11:23] <dgz> i know that
[11:23] <xukun> legend2440, If play a movie with vlc then its good, but with mplayer there is no picture
[11:24] <Alex9999> HI! please, see this url http://library.gnome.org/users/user-guide/latest/prefs-sessions.html (table 8-21 row4) - it says i've a "ADD BUTTON" to add a  SESSION in gnome so i can customiza different session for the same user.  I'VE UBUNTU HARDY and i DON'T HAVE THAT BUTTON. Can someone help me??
[11:24] <anirudh0> dgz: a simple rm *.swp should remove them
[11:24] <dgz> i just ctrl+alt+del coz it made me so mad
[11:24] <xukun> legend2440, also..
[11:24] <Sturmeh> dgz just "sudo nautilus" and delete them
[11:24] <_2> Sturmeh and why not ?    i use mc for visudo !
[11:24] <dgz> sudo DONT WORK
[11:24] <ePax> InMyLife: bu default ubuntu has firewall installed. All ports should be closed and non listening. Firestarter is just Graphical program to easy control your ports and see whats happening. If you want to open or close ports you can do it with firestarter.
[11:24] <dgz> thats why i tried to edit hosts
[11:24] <Sturmeh> haha u messed up ur visudo?
[11:24] <xukun> legend2440, also with the normal ubuntu screen on the tv if I move the mice screen moves too
[11:25] <Sturmeh> :\
[11:25] <dgz> i only wanted to install nvidia drivers
[11:25] <ePax> dgz: if your dont have root enabled do "sudo -s"
[11:25] <anirudh0> Sturmeh: will deleting /etc/sudoers..and rebooting creating a new default sudoers file?
[11:25] <dgz> sudo didnt work for some crazy reason
[11:25] <BlackRece> HELP, i've even highlighted the "<Ok>" at the bottom of the screen and still nothing?! have i missed summut
[11:25] <Sturmeh> wouldn't count on it anirudh0 dunno
[11:25] <_2> Sturmeh no.  it uses /usr/bin/sensiable-editor   or /usr/bin/edit
[11:25] <xukun> legend2440, I,m missing the have of the screen when I move right or left or up and down
[11:25] <ePax> BlackRece: How about "enter" or just press "Y"
[11:25] <_2> Sturmeh and they are symlinks to alternatives
[11:25] <Sturmeh> lol _2 :D
[11:26] <Alex9999> HI! please, see this url http://library.gnome.org/users/user-guide/latest/prefs-sessions.html (table 8-21 row4) - it says i've a "ADD BUTTON" to add a  SESSION in gnome so i can customiza different session for the same user.  I'VE UBUNTU HARDY and i DON'T HAVE THAT BUTTON. Can someone help me??
[11:26] <leetsweden> .
[11:26] <_2> dgz sure.   maybe.   what have you done?   what works and what doesn't ?
[11:26] <BlackRece> ePax: done and done and still nothing
[11:26] <dgz> i made a few swp files
[11:26] <Sturmeh> stop spamming ur question Alex9999 someone will come to answer it if we have any idea
[11:26] <dgz> there is no delete, no remove... nothing
[11:26] <leetsweden> .
[11:26] <dgz> and im frustrated
[11:27] <anirudh0> Alex9999: even i dont have this button
[11:27] <Sturmeh> dgz you need root to delete system swap files
[11:27] <dan__> Hello everyone.
[11:27] <dgz> i WAS root
[11:27] <legend2440> xukun: in mplayer preferences under Video tab i have gl    X11(OpenGl0 selected to get it to work. i had to try different drivers until i found one that worked with tv out
[11:27] <R2r> i just wnat to thnak you all for all your spport and to the shipment team
[11:27] <Sturmeh> lol dgz RECOVERY!
[11:27] <ePax> BlackRece: What are your trying to install?
[11:27] <xintron> _2: How do I set the profile to not use menu in the terminal then?
[11:27] <BlackRece> ePax: However, if i press ctrl + pgup, the blue screen goes for a mo then comes back at the next kepress! all in a terminal
[11:27] <dgz> i tried to edit hosts in root mode (recovery console)
[11:27] <R2r> alex999 whts the problem
[11:27] <Sturmeh> joo are crazy
[11:27] <dan__> someone have a sec? I'm having issues with some stuff
[11:27] <legend2440> xukun: in mplayer preferences under Video tab i have gl    X11(OpenGl)  selected to get it to work. i had to try different drivers until i found one that worked with tv out
[11:27] <Sturmeh> dgz did you make a backup?
[11:27] <dgz> man, I DID NOT
[11:27] <Sturmeh> epic fail
[11:27] <BlackRece> ePax: skype from medibuntu i've added to apt-get already and done update
[11:28] <dgz> please tell me how to fix this mess
[11:28] <anirudh0> dgz: wait..i'll post my hosts file...change your hostname and it should work
[11:28] <R2r> alex9999, whats the problem
[11:28] <Stroganoff> Alex9999 manually create your session through creating a .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions/
[11:28] <Sturmeh> so you "saved" it after editing it incorrectly dgz ?
[11:28] <legend2440> xukun: don't know why screen would move with mouse. never had that happen
[11:28] <dgz> Sturmeh yes
[11:28] <Sturmeh> :\
[11:28] <xukun> legend2440, I,m using mythbuntu which plays mplayer to play the video, so I have to figure where I find this
[11:28] <dgz> i did that a few times
[11:28] <bullgard4> [Gutsy>Hardy-Upgrade] http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/225092/ Gnome gibt keine Umlaute, sondern Fragezeichen aus, die Konsolen dagegen schon. Abhilfe?
[11:28] <Sturmeh> dgz could you possibly "remember" what it was like before u messed with it?
[11:29] <leetsweden> .
[11:29] <anirudh0> dgz: http://pastebin.com/d3b3f86f3
[11:29] <dgz> i know exactly how was it
[11:29] <dgz> but i cant do shit with vi
[11:29] <R2r> hey on the new 8.04 they said that i install it even onto a 256mb ram amchine
[11:29] <Sturmeh> ok dgz
[11:29] <dgz> wont use this crap again
[11:29] <anirudh0> dgz: use NANO
[11:29] <Sturmeh> i'll teach u alittle vi then
[11:29] <R2r> will it run smoothly
[11:29] <ePax> BlackRece: Actually you should be able to see what it wants from you.... type "yes" without " and enter
[11:29] <dgz> nano in the console?
[11:29] <ePax> Try that.
[11:29] <Sturmeh> use "A" not "I"
[11:29] <Sturmeh> end of story
[11:29] <dgz> ok
[11:29] <Sturmeh> it's "nano /path/to/file"
[11:29] <anirudh0> Sturmeh: plz dont...direct him to a good site
[11:29] <Stroganoff> lmao @ hinting noobs do vi
[11:29] <dgz> ok
[11:29] <dan__> What is a possible reason ALT+F2 wouldn't be working?
[11:29] <Sturmeh> haha anirudh0
[11:30] <dgz> ill use nano
[11:30] <dgz> hop it works
[11:30] <Sturmeh> dan__ possibly no window compisitor active
[11:30] <legend2440> xukun: do you want to make vlc the default player?
[11:30] <Sturmeh> dan__ try "metacity --replace" in terminal
[11:30] <Sturmeh> see if it doesn't fix it
[11:30] <dan__> Sturmeh: That makes sense. Neither of my panels are loading either
[11:30] <Sturmeh> lol dan__
[11:31] <Sturmeh> there he goes
[11:31] <R2r> hey can i install ubuntu with no gui then manually install fluxbox?
[11:31] <_2> man all that typing and then i missed him by two seconds.
[11:31] <anirudh0> R2r: yes
[11:31] <Sturmeh> i know _2 lol
[11:31] <anirudh0> R2r: check out fluxubuntu...it does that exactly
[11:31] <_2> it's hard to help people that are so impatiant
[11:31] <R2r> anirudh, you form india?
[11:31] <xukun> legend2440, I like mplayer, much better than vlc
[11:31] <anirudh0> R2r: yes
[11:32] <R2r> mee to wheer you from
[11:32] <anirudh0> xukun: good for you
[11:32] <Stroganoff> R2r: you can do it like this: http://tomfichtner.de/linux/wiki/Installation
[11:32] <_2> xukun my vote is for vlc  ;/
[11:32] <Alex9999> R2r and other user interesting: MY PROBLEM IS: i want to have multiple session (NOT RUNNING AT SAME TIME) for the same user BECAUSE i want the user can choose the DESKTOP graphic profile at LOGIN SCREEN. So i've to create 2 session: 1)full of graphic effects and themed 2)Standard without effect and very light...  HOW DO I??
[11:32] <Stroganoff> Alex9999 manually create your session through creating a .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions/
[11:32] <dan__> Sturmeh: yeah. That didn't work
[11:33] <dan__> Sturmeh: closed the terminal though
[11:33] <BlackRece> ePax: this is what my terminal console is showing me > http://paste.ubuntu.com/14289/
[11:33] <Sturmeh> dan__ what did you try?
[11:33] <R2r> manully create it then
[11:33] <anirudh0> Alex9999: yes...as Stroganoff says..then manually edit the session from the prefs menu
[11:34] <legend2440> xukun: yes i don't use vlc. like i said i had to try differnt video drivers in mplayer to find one that finally worked for tv out
[11:34] <anirudh0> how do you PM users in irc...i mean so that the conversation does'nt show up in main chat
[11:34] <dan__> Sturmeh: Well, I'm not sure what to try at the moment. I'm opening Terminal from a text file I have saved on my desktop, because nothing else seems to be loading
[11:34] <Sturmeh> do this dan__ do "metacity --replace" in terminal, then press alt+f2 THEN close the terminal
[11:34] <Alex9999> Stroganoff: ok, i created it  cloning GNOME.desktop FILE... Now when i start that desktop i called "GNOMELIGHT.desktop" will GNOME save the graphic preference ONLY for that SESSION?
[11:34] <ePax> BlackRece: highlight OK and press enter.... or scrool down to the end of the page  there should be one more OK highlight it as well and press enter
[11:34] <Sturmeh> dan__ when you reboot does the problem resolve?
[11:34] <ePax> anirudh0: What client do you use?
[11:34] <R2r> alex9999, do you know how to configure cfg's
[11:34] <anirudh0> ePax: pidgin
[11:34] <Sturmeh> do u know how to cake cakes?
[11:35] <dan__> Sturmeh: no. I've rebooted like, 6 times now. Logging out doesn't work either
[11:35] <ePax> anirudh0: On most clients /quote nick will open new window
[11:35] <dan__> Sturmeh: same thing when I login as root too
[11:35] <Sturmeh> oh i c dan__ what did you do prior to panels disappearing?
[11:35] <Alex9999> R2r: no. i started using linux nly by a month
[11:35] <leetsweden> .
[11:35] <leetsweden> .
[11:35] <leetsweden> .
[11:35] <xukun> legend2440, thanks for all your help
[11:35] <Sturmeh> don't spam leetsweden
[11:35] <ePax> anirudh0: Im not sure about pidgin. Klick on the name with right mouse bottom and see for options
[11:35] <dan__> Sturmeh: I installed some updates that required a reboot
[11:35] <Sturmeh> dan__ any from 3rd party repos?
[11:36] <R2r> ok guys how do ya setup PPP ihave an ethernet router but its got dialup
[11:36] <dan__> Sturmeh: it's a fresh install
[11:36] <anirudh0> epax:it shows an IM option...but apparently the message does'nt reach the target user
[11:36] <dan__> Sturmeh: I haven't added anything else here that wasn't already
[11:36] <legend2440> xukun: no problem. that is strange that mouse would move screen like that
[11:36] <ePax> anirudh0: Try my nic... IM me.
[11:36] <anirudh0> R2r: you should'nt need to set it up
[11:36] <R2r> can i first downlaod fluxbox repo then add it later using some media
[11:36] <ePax> nick*
[11:36] <dan__> Sturmeh: except the updates ofcourse
[11:36] <dgz> grub doesnt work now
[11:36] <dgz> wont boot ubuntu
[11:36] <Sturmeh> dan__ try "sudo apt-get update"
[11:37] <Sturmeh> dan__ see if theres any errors
[11:37] <R2r> yeah
[11:37] <anirudh0> ePax: sent you a "hello"
[11:37] <dgz> im doing another instalation trough windows, hope it works
[11:37] <bullgard4> [Gutsy>Hardy-Upgrade] http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/225092/ Gnome displays letters in English, but all 6 virtual consoles in German. How to troubleshoot?
[11:37] <ePax> I sent you copy of your msg as well
[11:37] <BlackRece> ePax: done and done and still no go! scrolled to end and click and highlighted and pressed enter and started to pull hair out but no go for the blue show!! :(
[11:37] <anirudh0> ePax: nope...nothing here
[11:37] <dgz> and damn its so slow when you install it on ntfs :D
[11:37] <dan__> Sturmeh: I just got a bunch of 404 not founds
[11:38] <bernroth> hello!
[11:38] <anirudh0> ePax: wait...i'll try xchat
[11:38] <ePax> anirudh0: You might have private messages on ignore or something im not sure about it... try to search on ubuntuforums or pidgin forums
[11:38] <Sturmeh> oh ok dan__ does it give any suggestions to fix it?
[11:38] <dan__> Sturmeh: nope. Just says it couldn't get them.
[11:38] <Sturmeh> ePax he needs to be registered to recieve irc pm's
[11:38] <xukun> legend2440, yes it is
[11:38] <dan__> Sturmeh: example, W: Failed to fetch http://repoubuntusoftware.info/dists/feisty//etc/apt/sources.list/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[11:39] <bernroth> when using two disks in a raid-1 setup, does reading occur automatically from both of the disks for better performance? i use hardy :)
[11:39] <osc> Hi
[11:39] <Sturmeh> so you using fiesty then dan__ ?
[11:39] <xintron> How does terminator work?
[11:39] <ePax> BlackRece: http://phorolinux.com/installing-skype-14-on-debian-ubuntu.html
[11:39] <fran> xintron well , he is from the future
[11:39] <dan__> Sturmeh: No, 8.10 is Hardy I think, isn't it?
[11:39] <xintron> fran: haha :D
[11:39] <fran> xintron he also has a battery of sorts
[11:39] <fran> :p
[11:40] <osc> Can't I remove the default packages from ubuntu using apt-get remove ....
[11:40] <Sturmeh> you have fiesty repos in your sources list dan__ that's an isssue
[11:40] <osc> ?
[11:40] <xintron> fran: Sounds amazing ;)
[11:40] <Jaikkuli> can someone suggest the most visually pleasing clock package?
[11:40] <fran> lol
[11:40] <Jaikkuli> for viewing time and date
[11:41] <Sturmeh> the default not appeasing Jaikkuli
[11:41] <Sturmeh> ?
[11:41] <ePax> BlackRece: I realy do not know answer to your qustion. Highlighting Ok and enter should work or do installation graphicaly and accept license agreement
[11:41] <dan__> Sturmeh: how do I fix this from Terminal? That's all I really have to go on.
[11:41] <zubu> how can i fix error 17 of grub?
[11:41] <Jaikkuli> Sturmeh: well..... no :)
[11:41] <Sturmeh> dan_ firstly you definatly need a copy of the default hardy sources file, anyone got that?
[11:41] <Stroganoff> !medibuntu | Black
[11:41] <Stroganoff> !medibuntu > BlackRece
[11:41] <dan__> Sturmeh: I have a live CD
[11:42] <Sturmeh> dan__ is a re-install out of the question?
[11:42] <zubu> anyone please tell me how to fix error 17 on grub!!
[11:43] <leetsweden> ..
[11:43] <dan__> Sturmeh: only if I have to repartition the HDD
[11:43] <Sturmeh> zubu http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[11:43] <Sturmeh> dan__ not necessary, use the same mount points
[11:43] <dan__> Sturmeh: damn reinstalling sucks
[11:43] <Sturmeh> dan__ i'm just wondering how those repos ended up on ur sources
[11:44] <dan__> Sturmeh: I have no idea
[11:44] <Sturmeh> clearly the update marked fiesty packages and messed up your installation
[11:44] <dan__> Sturmeh: there's a bunch of them though
[11:44] <anirudh> ePax, try PM now please
[11:44] <anirudh> ePax, now using xchat
[11:44] <Sturmeh> anirudh you registered your nickname on freenode yet?
[11:45] <anirudh> Sturmeh, turns out there was another anirudh before me :)
[11:45] <dan__> Sturmeh: so reinstalling is the only solution?
[11:45] <ePax> anirudh: Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[11:45] <Sturmeh> haha anirudh that is why u can't pm anyone
[11:45] <xintron> Lets say I split two terminals in terminator vertically. How do I move the terminal at the bottom to the top (aka, switch place of the two showing)?
[11:45] <Sturmeh> ah so you CAN message a staffer, interesting
[11:45] <anirudh> Sturmeh, oh...ok...will register then
[11:45] <gvzer_> hi
[11:45] <^root^> hi! I want to download http://www.repository.voxforge1.org/downloads/SpeechCorpus/Trunk/Audio/Original/ on my HD such that the directory structire is preserved, how do I do that?
[11:46] <Sturmeh> dan__ do you have any real reason other than time wasted not to re-install?
[11:46] <mudd`Hossam> anyone know where i can find openldap qmail shcema files?
[11:46] <PaRaSiTe> How do I make GRUB recognise OSs on multiple HDDs?
[11:46] <zubu> anyone please tell me how to fix error 17 on grub?
[11:46] <Sturmeh> PaRaSiTe installed before or after grub was?
[11:46] <zubu> sorry
[11:46] <Sturmeh> zubu did u not get my link?
[11:46] <Sturmeh> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945 <-- zubu
[11:47] <zubu> Sturmeh: yes
[11:47] <Sturmeh> it explains it fairly well
[11:47] <zubu> Sturmeh: how do i check all HDD are detected?
[11:47] <imexil> linux1 The downgrade was pretty much messing up my system. So have to try and find another way of getting my wireless working (e.g. get a proper wifi card ;))
[11:47] <dan__> Sturmeh: No, I guess not
[11:47] <Sturmeh> zubu under a list of hardware of some sort, you should find all your harddrives listed
[11:48] <PaRaSiTe> Sturmeh: Uh... I suppose before.
[11:48] <dan__> Sturmeh: meh. Thanks. I'm going to go do this then. Thanks.
[11:48] <ePax> PaRaSiTe: by default grub should recognize all partitions ans OSs...
[11:48] <abcdefghi> ﻿hi! I want to download http://www.repository.voxforge1.org/downloads/SpeechCorpus/Trunk/Audio/Original/ on my HD such that the directory structure is preserved, how do I do that?
[11:48] <imexil> ﻿linux1 The downgrade was pretty much messing up my system. So have to try and find another way of getting my wireless working (e.g. get a proper wifi card ;))
[11:48] <PaRaSiTe> ePax: Including ones on different HDDs?
[11:48] <leetsweden> .
[11:48] <Sturmeh> dan__ just make sure you aren't following tutorials for distros of ubuntu that aren't hardy
[11:49] <Sturmeh> yes it should automagically detect everything PaRaSiTe
[11:49] <dan__> Sturmeh: I'm not following any tutorials. I installed, installed updates. Copies some files over. Installed more updates, reset, and now I'm here
[11:49] <PaRaSiTe> Sturmeh, ePax: Thanks. :)
[11:49] <anirudh0> Sturmeh, but what if the os is on another physical disk?
[11:49] <ePax> PaRaSiTe: Yeap. If you install ubuntu as "last" os it should mount all your disks and if it just mounts but not adds them to Grub you can enable them in grub.menu.
[11:49] <Sturmeh> do you change your software sources from ubuntu before the updates? dan__
[11:49] <zubu> Sturmeh: it shows int the device info that a primary Hard drive of 160 Gb exists!
[11:50] <dan__> Sturmeh: I don't remember changing anything
[11:50] <PaRaSiTe> Thanks.
[11:50] <ePax> PaRaSiTe: Yw
[11:50] <leetsweden> yeah
[11:50] <Sturmeh> aslong as the disk is mounted it should add it at the time anirudh0 ( not mounted like for file access, just detected )
[11:50] <Jav13r_> what is the best tool to play mp3's in ubuntu? (i was a fan of  winamp in windows)
[11:50] <Sturmeh> dan__ can u paste the whole output
[11:50] <refinter> здесь етсь русскоязычные люди ?
[11:50] <Sturmeh> dan__ before you go...
[11:50] <zubu> Search for the HDD that has Ubuntu installed and set its MODE to AUTO (not LBA, large, or normal)
[11:50] <Sturmeh> dan__ not here in paste.ubuntu.com
[11:50] <alado2> are intel 945GM video cards compatible with linux?
[11:50] <zubu> how do i do this?
[11:50] <dan__> Sturmeh: I'll put it on pastebin or something. Hold on
[11:50] <Sturmeh> dan__ :D
[11:51] <zubu> Sturmeh: Search for the HDD that has Ubuntu installed and set its MODE to AUTO (not LBA, large, or normal)
[11:51] <leetsweden> .
[11:51] <zubu> sturmeh how do i do this?
[11:51] <ePax> Jav13r_: Audacious or xmms
[11:51] <Sturmeh> not sure zubu if it isn't obvious you should try asking someone else
[11:51] <leetsweden> how long time ago come gnome in gnu/linux?
[11:51] <Jav13r_> ePax: thx
[11:51] <ePax> Jav13r_: Same as winamp for win.
[11:52] <Sturmeh> read all the messages in that thread zubu there are many people asking about their own bios
[11:52] <zubu> Sturmeh : can you guide me thru the process on that page!!
[11:52] <Sturmeh> no sorry zubu read the REST of that thread
[11:52] <zubu> Sturmeh: my laptop is XPS1530
[11:52] <Jav13r_> ePax: which one of the two is same as winamp ?
[11:52] <Sturmeh> can't help.
[11:53] <Sturmeh> which of which Jav13r_?
[11:53] <robg_> zubu: you have a 160 Mb harddisk with one OS on it?
[11:53] <ePax> Jav13r_: audacious
[11:53] <Sturmeh> hehe, try Exaile :D
[11:53] <dan__> Sturmeh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14293/
[11:53] <Sturmeh> Jav13r_ you can use winamp in wine
[11:53] <Jav13r_> k guys
[11:53] <Jav13r_> thx
[11:54] <anirudh0> Jav13r_, audacious is almost exactly like winamp
[11:54] <zubu> robg_ sorrry dat was 160Gb
[11:54] <Sturmeh> Ign http://repoubuntusoftware.info feisty Release
[11:54] <Sturmeh> yeah ur sources is messed up dan__ not sure if just fixing sources will correct the problem tho
[11:54] <xintron> is it possible to reorganize the terminator windows?
[11:54] <robg_> zubu: what is on the 160 Gb harddisk ?
[11:54] <dan__> Sturmeh: prolly not, since the stuffs already installed
[11:54] <Sturmeh> exactly my point
[11:54] <anirudh0> xintron, terminator?
[11:54] <Sturmeh> or uninstalled lol
[11:54] <taruna_gi_cr_ce> oioioioioi........
[11:55] <bullgard4> Although my locales are de_DE.UTF8, after an Gutsy>Hardy upgrade GNOME is in English. How to adjust GNOME to de_DE.UTF8?
[11:55] <xintron> anirudh0: terminator Gnome terminal
[11:55] <xintron> anirudh0: adds some features
[11:55] <dan__> Sturmeh: yeah. The whole thing looks pretty f-ed up
[11:55] <anirudh0> xintron, lol :)
[11:55] <Sturmeh> just reinstall lol dan__ :D
[11:55] <leetsweden> .
[11:56] <dan__> Sturmeh: ok. I'll be back in like, 30 minutes
[11:56] <leetsweden> brb
[11:56] <Sturmeh> lol
[11:56] <leetsweden> so
[11:56] <Sturmeh> outtahere
[11:57] <anirudh0> leetsweden, one word posts dont say much
[11:57] <leetsweden> i know xD
[11:57] <leetsweden> i litte change in irssi theme xD
[11:59] <koheleth> is there software in ubuntu to convert mp3 to flv?
[12:00] <anirudh0> koheleth, ffmpeg for command line....or avidemux for a gui
[12:00] <koheleth> thanks :)
[12:00] <dgz> ok, im back with fresh install now
[12:00] <koheleth> thats mp3 > flv
[12:00] <dgz> so, how am i supposed to install nvidia drivers without going in recovery console
[12:00] <leetsweden> .
[12:01] <zubu> robg_ how can i check my BIOS name?
[12:01] <anirudh0> koheleth, yes...amongst many other formats
[12:01] <robg_> zubu: you only need the BIOS to start up multiboot systems.
[12:01] <koheleth> well cool, thanks again
[12:03] <robg_> zubu: and to start up from CD-ROM
[12:06] <dgz> guys, please tell me how am i supposed to install nvidia drivers since sudo tells me it's unable to resolve my host
[12:06] <jrib> dgz: use: System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[12:06] <do> hi
[12:06] <robg_> dgz: nvidia drivers are normally contained in ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:06] <jrib> dgz: to fix your unrelated sudo problem, pastebin your error and the command you run
[12:07] <anirudh0> dgz, sudo not working is bad...pastebin your /etc/sudoers
[12:07] <jrib> robg_: I don't think that's true
[12:07] <dgz> jrib: you know i wont do that, right?
[12:07] <jrib> dgz: why?
[12:07] <eth01> big-g: #shorewall
[12:07] <dgz> because if i knew what are you talking about, i would probably dont need your help
[12:07] <anirudh0> dgz, you seem bent on preventing guys from helping you
[12:08] <eth01> er, eek, i didn't know i had scrolled up. :)
[12:08] <eth01> silly eth01.
[12:08] <jrib> dgz: you just told me sudo "tells" you something.  I want to know exactly what it tells you.  Do you understand?
[12:08] <dgz> sudo: unable to resolve host krassi-desktop
[12:08] <eth01> dgz: not our problem.
[12:09] <jrib> dgz: good.  Now tell us the contents of your /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts files.  Use the pastebin
[12:09] <dgz> not talking to you
[12:09] <jrib> !pastebin | dgz
[12:09] <p> ubuntu german
[12:09] <bascule> !hostname | dgz
[12:10] <dgz> i already tried the so called Alternative. seems it doesnt work
[12:10] <jrib> dgz: it doesn't work because your sudo is already broken
[12:11] <dgz> already?
[12:11] <bascule> in /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain   localhost   <hostname>
[12:11] <dgz> it's broken by definition
[12:11] <jrib> ignore what the bot just said, it's too late for that
[12:11] <anirudh0> lol
[12:11] <dgz> too late?
[12:11] <bascule> is it
[12:11] <bullgard4> Although my locales are de_DE.UTF8, after an Gutsy>Hardy upgrade GNOME is in English. How to adjust GNOME to de_DE.UTF8?
[12:11] <dgz> it is not TOO late. i didnt do ANYTHING
[12:11] <p> i have a problem!! I have installed mac osx and then ubuntu on the same hdd, when i started the grub shows no mac partition only the ubuntu and a other OS but the other OS (mac) diddn start
[12:11] <jrib> dgz: okay, but can you pastebin the files so we can help you?
[12:12] <robg_> p: sometimes installs get messed up and you have to do a re-install.
[12:12] <anirudh0> p: can you post /boot/grub/menu.lst on pastebin
[12:12] <dgz> omg
[12:12] <dgz> anyway
[12:12] <dgz> i know exactly what to do with hosts
[12:12] <p> i have a problem!! I have installed mac osx and then ubuntu on the same hdd, when i started the grub shows no mac partition only the ubuntu and a other OS but the other OS (mac) diddn start
[12:13] <dgz> i just DONT want to reboot again in that shitty recovery console and use vi!
[12:13] <jrib> dgz: there's no other way
[12:13] <dgz> is there a workaround WITHOUT reboot
[12:13] <bascule> no
[12:13] <xintron> I have a problem with my wireless-. I see wireless networks. But when I try to connect I can't. It tries to connect (get IP from dhcp) but it never works. On one network however, with WPA, I got a signalstrenght of 78% or so, but I don't get signal from other networks (opens) when I try to connect to them. What might be wrong?
[12:13] <jrib> dgz: well you can use nano instead of vi
[12:13] <dgz> yea, nano seems a lot better
[12:14] <anirudh0> vi is better...nano is easier
[12:14] <dgz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14297/
[12:14] <dgz> so
[12:14] <bloops> How can I install 32bit sdl_image in ubuntu ia64 ?
[12:14] <dgz> i only have to add krassi-desktop on the end of first two lines, right?
[12:15] <Jav13r_> why cant i play mp3 in ubuntu? it doesnt have the codec by default?
[12:15] <xintron> anirudh0: Why can't I get syntaxhilight in vi? isn't ":syntax auto" correct?
[12:15] <jrib> xintron: make sure you installed the "vim" package.  By default you only get vim-tiny
[12:15] <anirudh0> xintron, it is...but just install the vi-full package
[12:15] <fran> vi /etc/bim/vimrc
[12:15] <leetsweden> .
[12:15] <asdlfkjzxv> Hey I have a really n00b quesiton.
[12:15] <anirudh0> dgz, you sudoes file is messed up
[12:15] <fran> and uncomment the place where syntax on is commented out
[12:15] <anirudh0> *sudoers
[12:16] <dgz> looks like it is by default
[12:16] <asdlfkjzxv> Whenever I minimize a window, it isn't minimized the way I want it. It still takes up most of the screen
[12:16] <dgz> i didnt do anything
[12:16] <luca__> qual'è l'indirizo della chat italiana?
[12:16] <anirudh0> 127.0.0.1 localhost krassi-desktop.WORKGROUP-> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[12:16] <p> no help muetas
[12:16] <anirudh0> luca__, #ubuntu-it
[12:16] <asdlfkjzxv> How do I change the default size so that when I minimize a window it is much smaller
[12:16] <xintron> ah, thanks jrib and anirudh0
[12:16] <hard> oi
[12:17] <jrib> dgz: here's what mine looks like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14298/
[12:17] <fran> asdlfkjzxv minimize or unmaximize?
[12:17] <pwang> hi, just asking. is there a specific channel on which to discuss packages on?
[12:17] <fran> minimize means go away
[12:17] <asdlfkjzxv> unmaximize fran
[12:17] <jrib> pwang: #ubuntu-motu I suppose
[12:17] <dgz> jrib: what should i do then?
[12:17] <fran> just drag the window smaller , and close it
[12:17] <dgz> make mine exactly like yours?
[12:17] <anirudh0> xintron,do what fran said...maybe you dont need to install vi-full...but doing that is better anyway
[12:17] <p> i have a problem!! I have installed mac osx and then ubuntu on the same hdd, when i started the grub shows no mac partition only the ubuntu and a other OS but the other OS (mac) diddn start
[12:17] <fran> the window manager will save the postion
[12:17] <fran> usually
[12:17] <asdlfkjzxv> I do that
[12:17] <fran> er size
[12:17] <asdlfkjzxv> but whenever I reopen anyh other window
[12:17] <biro> hi all, I'm havng trouble with my wireless card, I did a clean install of ubuntu 8.04 and it tells me I need to enable the retricted B43 driver which I do. It then instructs me to restart but after the restart I'm back at square one. The wireless card is not installed and I'm instructed to enable the driver again
[12:17] <fran> hmm
[12:18] <asdlfkjzxv> it goes back to that giant default unmaximized size
[12:18] <fran> asdlfkjzxv no clue then
[12:18] <asdlfkjzxv> it's really annoying
[12:18] <asdlfkjzxv> :(
[12:18] <jrib> dgz: change "jrib" to "krassi-desktop" in the file I pastebinned
[12:18] <dgz> ok
[12:19] <anirudh0> asdlfkjzxv, check the windows menu under system->prefs
[12:20] <asdlfkjzxv> ﻿anirudh0: there is no option to set the default unmaximized size
[12:20] <alastor666> plop all
[12:20] <asdlfkjzxv> It's still big and annoying to resize
[12:20] <p> cry matter
[12:21] <anirudh0> asdlfkjzxv, compiz or metacity
[12:21] <asdlfkjzxv> compiz
[12:21] <xintron> How do I get rownumbers in vim?
[12:21] <asdlfkjzxv> compiz-fusion
[12:21] <robg_> p: your configuration is unconventional and not many people will have experience with it.
[12:21] <anirudh0> asdlfkjzxv, i'm not very sure...but there should be some config option in ccsm
[12:21] <osc> does anybody tried remastering of kubuntu?
[12:22] <osc> or ubuntu?
[12:22] <anirudh0> asdlfkjzxv, first you'll have to install compizconfig-settings-manager though
[12:22] <anirudh0> osc, yes...but the install failed :)
[12:23] <leetsweden> .
[12:23] <basae> who knows about install printer ip1000?
[12:23] <asdlfkjzxv> I have the settings manger installed
[12:23] <robg_> basae: printer install by looking through driver list and picking correct driver.
[12:23] <fran> xintron  :set nu
[12:24] <pwang> uh, can anyone fill me in on why the devs are so slow to get firefox 3 rc1 onto the hardy repos? it's been more than a week since it was released.
[12:24] <pwang> and intrepid already has it.
[12:24] <CuBe0wL> hi all! I've got a certain problem with a 3rd party GTK based app. I've read there was a similar problem in ubuntu in k3d almost a year ago. I've tried to look up the bugreport, but I haven't find a solution for that
[12:24] <p> noooooo helppppppppppppppppp ihr seid doch bob der baumeister
[12:24] <basae> i have installer but i dont know how to use
[12:24] <fran> or :set number
[12:24] <p> some girls here??
[12:24] <CuBe0wL> GdkGLExt-WARNING **: cannot load PangoFont
[12:25] <ePax> p: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:25] <CuBe0wL> does anyonw know anything about this one?
[12:25] <koheleth> anirudh0, avidemux wont open a mp3 file?
[12:25] <p> no epax no
[12:25] <p> leeeettttttt meeeeeee liiiiiiiivvvveee
[12:25] <anirudh0> koheleth, avidemux is meant as a video editor...and so is ffmpeg...flv is a video format
[12:26] <CuBe0wL> it was mentioned in this bugreport: Bug 112978
[12:26] <CuBe0wL> thx bot :P
[12:26] <anirudh0> koheleth, avidemux reads the mp3 that is associated with the video
[12:26] <dabbill> I have a if_running setup for my music player on conky but it only pulls up the first line after ${if_running} and nothing else.
[12:26] <pwang> hi, can anyone fill me in on why the devs are so slow to get firefox 3 rc1 onto the hardy repos? it's been more than a week since it was released.
[12:26] <pwang> and intrepid already has it.
[12:26] <dgz> heh
[12:26] <dgz> sudo: unable to resolve host krassi-desktop
[12:26] <dgz> AGAIN
[12:26] <koheleth> no video its a tune
[12:26] <odinsbane> m orning
[12:26] <p> evil knivel nooooooo helpppppppp mannnnnn
[12:27] <anirudh0> dabbill, you are looking for {}
[12:27] <fran> p plox to have some stfu
[12:27] <p> whaaaaaaaaatttt
[12:27] <anirudh0> p: how can anyone help if you keep posting arbit stuff instead of your problem???
[12:27] <odinsbane> does anybody know why openssh-client -server ssl-cert are 'kept back' when I do an upgrade.
[12:28] <jrib> p: please stop being annoying
[12:28] <anirudh0> odinsbane, not sure about the client
[12:28] <p> thats my problem irish callboy: i have a problem!! I have installed mac osx and then ubuntu on the same hdd, when i started the grub shows no mac partition only the ubuntu and a other OS but the other OS (mac) diddn start
[12:28] <martian67> where can I get an install disk
[12:28] <anirudh0> odinsbane, but if the server cert changed...other clients wou;d'nt recognize you next time they connect
[12:28] <martian67> for 8.04
[12:28] <martian67> that is not also a livecd?
[12:28] <jrib> !alternate | martian67
[12:28] <martian67> somone mentioned some kind of 'alternate installer"
[12:28] <anirudh0> p: as i said before ...post your menu.lst
[12:29] <odinsbane> so they would probably work if I manually upgraded them?
[12:29] <dabbill> anirudh0, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14301/ this is my .conkyrc file
[12:29] <robg_> martian67: //releases.ubuntu.com
[12:29] <odinsbane> or reinstalled them.
[12:29] <dabbill> anirudh0, i cant see any thing wrong with it
[12:29] <p> anirudh0 ok but where
[12:30] <anirudh0> !pastebin|p
[12:30] <robg_> martian67: ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso is a single boot OEM version with encrypted file system option.
[12:30] <martian67> robg_: how hard is it to get
[12:30] <anirudh0> dabbill, i used conky a long time ago...are you sure you want it, and not an equivalent screenlet?
[12:30] <Dvyjones> I get the follorwing boot error: "wlan0: error fetching interface information: Device not found", also the wlan0 doesn't exist, but the network card is detected. How do I assign wlan0 to the network card on 8.04?
[12:30] <robg_> martian67: as easy as pie.
[12:30] <odinsbane> Has anybody else had problem with their xine display settings after upgrading to hardy.  I have to manually configure hue/balance/saturation otherwise the colors look .... very poor.
[12:31] <martian67> robg_: i mean to install
[12:31] <martian67> the text one
[12:31] <dabbill> anirudh0, only 2 i know of is gkrellm and conky
[12:31] <martian67> is it a challenge?
[12:31] <Dr_willis> I perfer conly over screenlets :)  but i did spend a week+ tweaking it ages ago.. so i learned it well.
[12:31] <jrib> martian67: ubotu just told you how
[12:31] <robg_> martian67: install is much easier because no GRUB
[12:31] <p> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14302/
[12:31] <icewaterman> does anyone know a good howto for how to configure ubuntu to use full disc encryption in case it is already installed and the rootfilesystem is already encrypted?
[12:31] <martian67> robg_: no grub?
[12:31] <anirudh0> dabbill, check out screenlets...they work with compiz
[12:31] <robg_> martian67: single boot. Takes your entire drive.
[12:31] <AlbertLSD25> hi everyone!! xD
[12:32] <martian67> robg_: how does it not use grub?
[12:32] <jrib> martian67: it does
[12:32] <Dvyjones> Hej leetsweden!
[12:32] <dabbill> anirudh0, okay, but lookin at the code can you see why only MUSIC is put up when i start rhythmbox ?
[12:32] <robg_> martian67: it has a dedicated installer and you only have to fill in about 5 lines
[12:33] <Gin> is there any irc client alternative to xchat for Ubuntu?
[12:33] <anirudh0> dabbill, the code is fine...but you have a max size variable set
[12:33] <martian67> Gin: irssi
[12:33] <jrib> Gin: weechat, irssi
[12:33] <leetsweden> ;P
[12:33] <icewaterman> Gin: pidgin, irssi
[12:33] <odinsbane> Gin bitchX
[12:33] <Dr_willis> Gin,  thers dozens of irc clients for linux
[12:33] <jrib> odinsbane: bitchx isn't in hardy
[12:33] <odinsbane> ircii
[12:33] <anirudh0> dabbill, so maybe the other output is going outside the windows
[12:34] <martian67> i think be probly wants a gui client
[12:34] <anirudh0> *conky window
[12:34] <smmagic> Or, if your prefer scripting you can run wirc/mirc under wine or crossover
[12:34] <dabbill> anirudh0, if i kill conky and restart it while my music player is open it works fine
[12:34] <Gin> icewaterman: I want a client with a GUI
[12:34] <p> anirudh0: What should i do
[12:34] <odinsbane> jrib well it works, you just can't get it from the packagaes
[12:34] <anirudh0> p: plz do a apt-get --reinstall install grub...and then post the command output as well as the new menu.lst
[12:35] <Gin> pidgin is not reallt a client to me
[12:35] <Dr_willis> if you perfwe REAL scripting - learn to use perl/other languages and xchat./irssi :) not mIRC :)
[12:35] <Dr_willis> I use xchat under windows and linux.
[12:35] <p> Okay
[12:35] <leetsweden> mirkkwar!
[12:35] <dabbill> anirudh0, and i only have width setup, dont see any thing about the length
[12:35] <U-Gutsy-Gibbon> whereis openssl
[12:35] <U-Gutsy-Gibbon> openssl: /usr/bin/openssl /usr/include/openssl /usr/share/man/man1/openssl.1ssl.gz <--- does this means that OpenSSL is already installed, i installed it from the CD
[12:36] <xintron> Anyone using terminator and if so, is it possible to move the terminals when I've splitted the window?
[12:36] <anirudh0> dabbill, do the commands work in a terminal...the "rhythmbox-client --no-start --print-playing-format "%tt" i mean
[12:36] <AlbertLSD25> i am a linux n00b and have a short question about the shortcut circle @ the desktop like mac OS. Whats the name of it 2 update it?? ;) sry i am from germany so my english ist not perfekt??
[12:36] <odinsbane> so to upgrade openssh-server and -client I need openssh-blacklist?
[12:37] <p> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14305/
[12:37] <anirudh0> AlbertLSD25, you want a mac lookalike?
[12:37] <AlbertLSD25> that shortcut circle and a mac outfit if u know one xD
[12:37] <dabbill> anirudh0, just puting that in terminal gives me ">" with nothing next to it.
[12:38] <anirudh0> dabbill, thats your problem then :)
[12:38] <leetsweden> hehe
[12:38] <anirudh0> dabbill, if the command does'nt work , then conky cant do anything about it
[12:38] <dabbill> anirudh0, hurm, if i restart conky while rythmbox is open every thing works fine, its only if conky is opened before rythmbox that it doesnt work correctly
[12:39] <anirudh0> dabbill, see...the command only gives a valid output when you are actually _playing_ something
[12:39] <anirudh0> dabbill, which explains the behaviour you observe
[12:40] <dabbill> anirudh0, i just restarted conky and conky is working fine now. but if i put that command in to terminal it gives me the same resault.
[12:40] <anirudh0> p: strange...it seems mac is'nt being recognized even now..
[12:40] <p> the shit root thing is missed
[12:40] <anirudh0> dabbill, hmm...execi just makes conky execute the command and paste the output
[12:41] <AlbertLSD25> i look for a synaptic pack but i cant found one for that thing
[12:41] <anirudh0> p: please address replies..and cursing wont fix your system :)
[12:41] <dabbill> anirudh0, rhythmbox-client --no-start --print-playing-format "%tt gives me no output in terminal just a blank line
[12:41] <anirudh0> AlbertLSD25, check out mac4lin on sourceforge.net
[12:41] <Gin> if you have compiz enabled, how do you initiate the scale effect?
[12:41] <erUSUL> !language |
[12:42] <p> i didn understand you speak a easy englisch
[12:42] <anirudh0> dabbill, its "%tt", not "%tt
[12:42] <AlbertLSD25> thats for the mac theme right?? thx for ur help
[12:42] <anirudh0> p: put someone's name before your reply...so we know whom you are talking to :)
[12:42] <dabbill> anirudh0, ahh okay that worked
[12:42] <anirudh0> dabbill, great
[12:43] <p> your name and :
[12:43] <leetsweden> and
[12:43] <anirudh0> p: yes...is your mac partition mounted right now?
[12:43] <erUSUL> !who | p
[12:43] <dabbill> anirudh0, the it doesnt even bring up Title, Artist or any of that when i start rhythmbox if conky is already open, it only brings up MUSIC---------
[12:43] <p> anirudh0: yes
[12:43] <dabbill> anirudh0, know of any way to fix that?
[12:44] <anirudh0> p: then please post the result of "cat /etc/mtab"
[12:44] <anirudh0> dabbill, sorry..nope
[12:44] <efu> I'm going to format a new drive, and I'm wondering which file system to use. Is there any reason to use ext3? ReiserFS and XFS seem to beat it on every benchmark
[12:44] <dabbill> anirudh0, thanks for trying :)
[12:45] <anirudh0> p: sorry for the roundabout method..but i need to know where the mac partition is
[12:45] <p> anirudhO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14308/
[12:45] <erUSUL> efu: ext3 is rock solid against power outages (and other errors) becouse it does full journaling by default
[12:45] <anirudh0> efu, ext3 has the widest support...gparted can resize ext3 without bugs
[12:46] <anirudh0> efu, but you are right..reiserfs is better in almost everything else
[12:46] <leetsweden> my desktop is so nice now xD
[12:46] <erUSUL> efu: other failsystems (xfs and jfs) do metadata journaling and are known to be more "fragile"
[12:46] <mohadib> too bad ots main developer is in prison
[12:46] <dabbill> anirudh0, weird thing is if i open rhythmbox, kill conky and restart it. Every thing works perfect, i can close and open rhythmbox as much as i want and my music section disappears and reappears like it should.
[12:46] <efu> ah, I see
[12:46] <Ashley> Hi
[12:46] <devilash> That was embarrasing.
[12:47] <efu> hm
[12:47] <efu> it's tempting to try reiser
[12:47] <Gin> what is the utility called to changethe compiz settings?
[12:47] <jrib> !ccsm | Gin
[12:48] <anirudh0> efu, reiserfs  is also more reliable...as in reiserfsck can fix almost any thing you throw at it
[12:48] <anirudh0> p: the thing is..you menu.lst is missing the missing the mac section
[12:48] <leetsweden> g
[12:48] <anirudh0> p: check this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249944
[12:49] <jrib> Gin: compizconfig-settings-manager gives you the usual one.  To get the option to enable custom in the Visual Effects settings, you still need to install simple-ccsm
[12:49] <anirudh0> p: and this in particular http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?s=36a656895a78bf79964832446cf77711&showtopic=58693&st=0&p=418764&#entry418764
[12:49] <anirudh0> p: the second one should tell you everything
[12:49] <anirudh0> p: hth
[12:49] <Gin> jrib: I need to configure other settings. that utiltity is too simple :\
[12:50] <wizardgold> I need a bit of help please with setting up Wifi on a HP portable - everything else is working great but Ubuntu is not seeing the WIFI capability on the machine
[12:50] <jrib> Gin: did you see what I just said?
[12:50] <wizardgold> any ideas ??
[12:50] <efu> anirudh0, cool. thanks for the info guys. I think I'll try reiser and see how it performs. It's not like I have very important data to store there anyway =)
[12:50] <Gin> jrib: yes, I have simple-csm open, but it is very limited
[12:50] <wizardgold> The wifi worked on Vista before I dumped it off the computer
[12:50] <jrib> Gin: compizconfig-settings-manager gives you the usual one.  To get the option to enable custom in the Visual Effects settings, you still need to install simple-ccsm
[12:51] <bullgard1> [Gutsy>Hardy-Upgrade] http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/225092/ Gnome is in English, but all 6 virtual consoles in German. How to troubleshoot?
[12:51] <mindframe-> what's the story on the ubuntu proposed repos?
[12:51] <jrib> bullgard1: you should tell the channel what you want to happen
[12:51] <jrib> mindframe-: for testers (people that don't care if their computer explodes)
[12:51] <p> thanks anirudho for your helo
[12:51] <bullgard4> I want to happen that Gnome displays letters and words in German.
[12:52] <jrib> bullgard4: at the login screnn, click on options and select your language
[12:53] <dgz> guys, i have yet another problem to solve :)
[12:53] <ePax> bullgard4: use synaptic package manager and install language pack german for gnome and gnome-base german
[12:53] <dgz> the nvidia drivers wont install when X is running
[12:53] <dgz> should i kill X? :)
[12:54] <Dr_willis> dgz,  you did try the driver thats in the repos first?
[12:54] <jrib> dgz: you are using System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers  to install them?
[12:54] <bullgard4> ePax: Both DEB packages are installed.
[12:54] <BlackRece> OK! i've answered my own question cos no-one else seemed to know that answer and even tho its simple, its not obvious! when installing skype, when you get the first screen on about usage license and stuff, to select <Ok> to continue, PRESS TAB!!! then press enter! <Ok> will turn red (like in the lamp install) and u can then press enter to continue!!! I'm such a n00b!!
[12:54] <dgz> no, im using shell
[12:54] <dgz> should i use this tool?
[12:54] <Dr_willis> dgz,  what is your specific video card?
[12:54] <leetsweden> ...
[12:54] <dgz> 8800GT, i got the proper drivers
[12:54] <Dr_willis> dgz,  i noprmally just have to do a 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new'
[12:55] <Dr_willis> dgz,  i do NOT install the ones from nvidia.com
[12:55] <dgz> aah, stupid me
[12:55] <dgz> i already got the proper file though
[12:55] <dgz> why should i use it?
[12:55] <jrib> dgz: better to use the repositories
[12:55] <dgz> maybe apt-get will install previous version
[12:55] <dgz> oook
[12:56] <jrib> dgz: you get free security upgrades and your X doesn't break on kernel upgrades
[12:56] <dgz> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new in shell?
[12:56] <jrib> dgz: sure, or let the gui do it for you.  Same result
[12:56] <xintron> Is it possible to get the terminal to flash in the windows bar when I get a hilight in irssi?
[12:57] <jrib> xintron: google "irssi urgent hint" maybe
[12:57] <dgz> Setting up nvidia-glx-new (169.12+2.6.24.12-16.34) ...
[12:57] <dgz> Processing triggers for libc6 ...
[12:57] <dgz> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[12:57] <dgz> sorry for the spam but.. what now?
[12:57] <dgz> is it done?
[12:58] <dgz> coz thats the last message i got, and im free to type in the shell again. huh
[12:58] <p> i have a problem how i wrote this /dev/sda1    (hd?,?)
[12:58] <erUSUL> dgz: sudo nvidia-xconfig ?
[12:58] <xintron> jrib: I have connected to a shell and using irssi from there, is it then possible to get that hint on my computer?
[12:58] <dgz> i see
[12:58] <gonzo1983> ragazzi ma qui si parla solo in inglese?
[12:58] <jrib> xintron: if google returns fruitful results, yes
[12:59] <p> /dev/sda2 is (hd0,1); /dev/sdb3 is (hd1,2)         but how i wrote it bey /dev/sda1
[12:59] <dgz> i dont get it. do i have to edit sudo nvidia-xconfig now?
[13:00] <jrib> dgz: it's a command you execute.  Nothing to edit
[13:00] <p> HELLLLLLLLPPppppppp: /dev/sda2 is (hd0,1); /dev/sdb3 is (hd1,2)         but how i wrote it bey /dev/sda1
[13:00] <dgz> i did it already
[13:00] <dgz> notthing happened
[13:00] <dgz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14312/
[13:00] <jrib> xintron: I recall someone wrote a script like this, but can't really find it
[13:01] <xintron> jrib: too bad :(
[13:01] <areels> how can i install debian installer?
[13:01] <jrib> xintron: might want to try #irssi too
[13:01] <jrib> areels: what does that mean exactly?
[13:01] <jrib> dgz: verify xorg.conf is using the nvidia driver now
[13:01] <conatic> hi, I look for a pkg : qt4.4 for ubuntu how can I get it ?
[13:02] <areels> jrib:  i want to be able to install *.deb packages
[13:02] <dgz> is it fully functional though?
[13:02] <jrib> conatic: it's in hardy-backports
[13:02] <odinsbane> areels if you are using ubuntu you probably have dpkg already installed. ... dpkg -i nameofpacakge.deb
[13:03] <jrib> areels: you should stick to ubuntu repositories first.  Then install only ubuntu deb's.  Random debian debs may not work.  To install, just double click on them
[13:03] <muzy3> what is the buffer I/O Eroor on the hard disk drive ?
[13:03] <areels> jrib: i'm trying to install webmin on ubuntu server
[13:03] <dgz> i thought Visual Effects (Extra) should be available now, but they are not
[13:03] <muzy3> when i will isntall ubuntu i get this error
[13:03] <jrib> dgz: you would need to restart X after you verify xorg.conf is in order
[13:03] <dgz> how do i do that
[13:04] <jrib> dgz: save what you are working on, log out, hit ctrl-alt-backspace
[13:04] <dgz> ok
[13:04] <dgz> thanks mate
[13:04] <jpcooper> hello
[13:04] <devilash> Without meaning to sound really really stupid, how can I check which broadcom device I have? I'm trying to configure wireless for my laptop and failing miserably :/
[13:04] <jpcooper> it seems that the "Screen and Graphics" option has disappeared from 8.04's administration menu. Can anyone tell me where it has gone
[13:05] <conatic> jrib, how can I setup backports on my box ?
[13:05] <Treeh416> Hey
[13:05] <jrib> !backports > conatic (read the private message from ubottu)
[13:05] <GarulfoUnix> il y a des graphistes ? Car j'ai une image PNG avec un fond blanc mais j'aimerai convertir le fond blanc en transparent
[13:05] <odinsbane> devilash which version of ubuntu?
[13:05] <kd8ikt>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:05] <devilash> Newest
[13:05] <devilash> I think O.o
[13:05] <Treeh416> I need some help dual booting in Ubuntu and installing drivers for my siemens 108 usb stick >.>
[13:05] <phdmybest> hi,everyone.could anybody tell me how can I copy my SSH public key to my server?
[13:05] <Treeh416> Anyone can help :S?
[13:05] <devilash> Desktop edition
[13:06] <dgz> got it now, thanks jrib :)
[13:06] <Treeh416> :S
[13:06] <erUSUL> !fr | GarulfoUnix
[13:06] <dgz> time for Doom 3 :D
[13:06] <jrib> !fr | GarulfoUnix
[13:06] <devilash> 8.04
[13:06] <Treeh416> I need help >.>
[13:06] <odinsbane> devilash you should be able to go to system->administration-> hardware drivers and enable it
[13:06] <erUSUL> devilash: lspci | grep -i net
[13:06] <devilash> Thanks
[13:06] <odinsbane> If it is broadcomm.
[13:06] <devilash> Yeah, it is. Gotta hate them :P
[13:07] <Treeh416> Can someone please help me...? I'm completely new to Ubuntu...
[13:07] <jrib> jpcooper: it's in the displayconfig-gtk package
[13:07] <jpcooper> thanks jrib
[13:07] <odinsbane> Tree416 someone can help you
[13:07] <bullgard4> jrib: I have set the settings another time to German. There is no change.
[13:07] <Treeh416> Yay :D
[13:07] <Treeh416> xD
[13:07] <Treeh416> Meaning you, right?
[13:07] <AcornAcorn> are there any places with information on customising the ubuntu desktops and panels?
[13:07] <devilash> Odinsbane it's not on the list.
[13:07] <jrib> bullgard4: you did this before you logged in, at the GDM screen?
[13:07] <warior> Hi guys please repair ubuntu repository, there is bad md5 checksum in package openssl-blacklist_0.1-0ubuntu0.7.10.4_all.deb
[13:08] <bullgard4> jrib: yes.
[13:08] <Treeh416> I need help dual booting into XP- the GRUB menu isn't appearing for me.
[13:08] <tim1> ﻿reeh416: google live cd grub install
[13:08] <Treeh416> Ok,
[13:08] <erUSUL> Treeh416: what do you see instead?
[13:08] <Treeh416> Nothing
[13:08] <Treeh416> it boots right into Ubuntu
[13:09] <devilash> erUSUL the broadcom device driver isn't on the list
[13:09] <erUSUL> devilash: what list?
[13:09] <robg_> Treeh416: did you press the boot options key ?
[13:09] <Treeh416> I'm  going to try the live cd install...sec
[13:09] <a-v> Where can I get the development files for a 32-bit libstdc++ on a 64-bit Ubuntu?
[13:09] <odinsbane> devilash, Ill look I have a broadcomm wireless and I just had to enable restricted drivers, for this distro. Previously I had to manually install BC43XX drivers
[13:09] <Treeh416> No
[13:09] <jrib> bullgard4: should be working, search bugs.ubuntu.com for bugs I suppose
[13:09] <Treeh416> What's that XD?
[13:09] <devilash> The system->admin->hardware drivers
[13:09] <odinsbane> Tree416 are you sure you still have the xp on your hd?
[13:09] <Treeh416> Sorry I'm a complete idiot rightnow...never used linux before
[13:09] <tim1> ﻿Treeh416:  grub install
[13:09] <sean_> Hi
[13:09] <sean_> i'm new to programming.
[13:09] <sean_> I need to work the following simple program called somma(or any):
[13:09] <sean_> #include<stdio.h>
[13:09] <sean_>   main()
[13:09] <FloodBot3> sean_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:09] <sean_>   {
[13:09] <Treeh416> Wait...what's the boot options key?
[13:10] <jrib> sean_: for help with C, use ##c (not here)
[13:10] <robg_> Treeh416: on my machine I have to press F8 to get the GRUB boot list.
[13:10] <Treeh416> Ok, one sec
[13:10] <Treeh416> I'll try that.
[13:10] <devilash> So, what can I do? It's not on the list
[13:10] <bullgard4> jrib: I will search bugs.ubuntu.com.
[13:11] <robg_> Treeh416: not when the machine is running but during startup.
[13:11] <Treeh416> press or hold f8?
[13:11] <Jaikkuli> i am trying to install cairo-dock.. the install instructions ask you to add their source list for gusty in there.. but i run hardy... is it compatible?
[13:11] <Treeh416> i know
[13:11] <odinsbane> devilash I had to use b43-fwcutter
[13:11] <tim1> ﻿Jaikkuli: replace gusty with hardy
[13:11] <robg_> Treeh416: I normally keep the F8 key pressed down to force tha machine to boot whatever I want to boot.
[13:11] <Treeh416> ok
[13:12] <odinsbane> devilash I think you can do lspci  to see what card you have.
[13:12] <samba_> hi folks, my usplash goes in "segfault" every 2 boot: WHY ?
[13:12] <dgz> +-WDRG3U84E CT7
[13:12] <robg_> Treeh416: You can choose between a boot from harddisk or from CD-ROM. Booting from CD-ROM really demands that you keep the key pressed down.
[13:12] <Treeh416> ok
[13:12] <Treeh416> I got it
[13:12] <Jaikkuli> tim1: well i tried that but then i update and try installing the package.. says it couldnt find the page
[13:12] <Jaikkuli> package i mean
[13:13] <dgz> LOL
[13:13] <Treeh416> But um...XP isn't displayed
[13:13] <Treeh416> :|
[13:13] <tim1> I also have an issue when i install nvidia graphic drivers my onboad lan stops working
[13:13] <Treeh416> I didn't format my HDD....
[13:13] <tim1> ﻿Jaikkuli: ok sorry
[13:13] <odinsbane> Treeh416 can you get to a terminal window on that box?
[13:13] <dgz> i was cleaning my kbd when... suddenly :D i think i zoomed
[13:13] <dgz> how do i revert?
[13:13] <Treeh416> What do you mean?
[13:13] <Treeh416> From GRUB?
[13:13] <Treeh416> I don'tthink so
[13:13] <devilash> Odinsbane I've done that command and it's came up with a list. I've got a 'Broadcom BCM3410' network controller and a 'Broadcom BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX Ethernet controller'.
[13:13] <odinsbane> Treeh416 no just start up ubuntu
[13:13] <Treeh416> ok
[13:13] <Jaikkuli> tim1: ok, i just saw it said this.. W: Failed to fetch http://repository.cairo-dock.org/ubuntu/dists/hardy/cairo-dock/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[13:14] <dgz> ah, got it
[13:14] <robg_> Treeh416: You may need to use Gparted to find out what is on your harddrive.
[13:14] <dgz> ill stop asking stupid questions and try google first
[13:14] <GG3> I am trying run a file ./Program and get UnsatisfiedLinkError: libjgmplib: libjgmplib.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[13:15] <tim1> ﻿Jaikkuli: google "hardy cairo-dock"
[13:15] <Treeh416> Ok robg...where do I find that? Odinsbane, I'm in terminal
[13:15] <Imaginativeone_> how do I fix my keyboad?
[13:15] <odinsbane> Treeh416 maybe use gparted, or type ls /dev/sda*
[13:15] <GG3> I have libjgmplib.so in the same directory
[13:15] <samba_> hi folks, my usplash goes in "segfault" every 2 boot: WHY ?
[13:15] <Imaginativeone_> it stops working in some apps
[13:15] <odinsbane> Treeh416 you should get a list of sda0, sda1,...
[13:15] <Treeh416> i did
[13:15] <Treeh416> sda, sda1, sda2 and sda 5
[13:15] <robg_> Treeh416: If you have done a bad install which is messed up you can use Gparted to examine the disk and get some options.
[13:16] <aniket> i hve compiled a engine named rezlooks but the interface is like windows95
[13:16] <Treeh416> Robg, where do I find gparted?
[13:16] <odinsbane> devilash it looks like you should install bc43-fwcutter
[13:16] <aniket> i am sure that it is not installed properly
[13:16] <devilash> odinsbane How do I do that?
[13:16] <tim1> ﻿Treeh416:  live cd
[13:16] <aniket> but i am not able to find what i ha ve done wron g
[13:16] <devilash> odinsbane Is it just a google for the program, then install?
[13:16] <odinsbane> devilash load up synaptic...system->administration->package manager.
[13:17] <Treeh416> Ok, I've inserted it...now what ?
[13:17] <devilash> odinsbane Whats synaptic?
[13:17] <odinsbane> treeh416 try mounting sda5 and look to see if it has windows on it.
[13:17] <devilash> Found it, doesn't matter >.>
[13:18] <Treeh416> I don't know how mount anything in linux. I have no idea how to use it. How do I mount it?
[13:18] <odinsbane> devilash synaptic is a gui for installing ubuntu packages.
[13:18] <robg_> Treeh416: Go to Wikipedia: Gparted, follow the link to SourceForge, download: Gparted  live 0.3.6-7.iso burn to CD
[13:18] <leetsweden> How do I turn off all messages about "Left the channel, join the channel" in irssi
[13:18] <leetsweden> ?
[13:18] <cpare> When installing 8.04 64 Server on my Poweredge T105 the CDRom did not mount, and after installing from a USB CDROM the internal CD is still failing.  Has anyone seen this before?
[13:18] <devilash> odinsbane I've got a 'BC', but I don't have a 'bc43-fwcutter'
[13:19] <jrib> leetsweden: http://irssi.org/documentation/tips search the page for "ignore"
[13:19] <odinsbane> devilash did you go to synaptic and search for b43
[13:19] <leetsweden> ok thz
[13:19] <odinsbane> Treeh416 first you need a directory so type sudo mkdir /media/windows
[13:19] <robg_> cpare: Is the OS on your harddisk ?
[13:19] <cpare> robg_ I was able to get it to install on the HD
[13:20] <Treeh416> it says
[13:20] <devilash> odinsbane Yeah, I searched 'B43' and 'bc43', it's came up with nothing
[13:20] <Treeh416> Cannot create directory 'media/windows'files exists
[13:20] <cpare> robg_ the Workstation versions worked fine
[13:20] <odinsbane> devilash just b43
[13:20] <robg_> cpare: then you must try to boot from harddisk.
[13:20] <cpare> robg_ the x86 workstation :)
[13:20] <devilash> odinsbane Still nothing :/
[13:20] <silverblade> When is VirtualBox 1.6 going to be available via apt-get ?
[13:20] <odinsbane> devilash okay you need to enable the repositories.  So close synaptic.
[13:21] <devilash> odinsbane Yeah, and then? :)
[13:21] <cpare> robg_ Now that I am installed I can boot, but the CDRom is still not identified
[13:21] <odinsbane> devilash system-admin-softwaresources
[13:21] <devilash> odinsbane then what?
[13:21] <cpare> robg_ so it's just a cupholder at this point...
[13:21] <odinsbane> devilash enable just about everything.
[13:21] <robg_> cpare: consult hardware manufacturer
[13:22] <Treeh416> robg, I burned the CD.
[13:22] <devilash> odinsbane practically everything is enabled.
[13:22] <Treeh416> Odinsbane, it said I there are files on that directly
[13:22] <cpare> robg_ why? it works fine with Ubuntu Workstation 32, just not 64
[13:22] <Treeh416> directory*
[13:22] <devilash> odinsbane Should I enable the partners under 'third party software' too?
[13:23] <odinsbane> devilash  I only have unsupported updates in third-party.
[13:23] <robg_> Treeh416: insert Cd into CD-ROM drive. Shutdown machine. Boot machine with boot options key pressed down. Keep htting enter as Gparted loads, except for the resolution.
[13:23] <Jaikkuli> someone help me? i am following instructions on this webpage.. i think they screwed up though.. http://www.cairo-dock.org/ww_page.php?p=For%2064%20bits%20processor&lang=en
[13:23] <Treeh416> ok
[13:23] <odinsbane> Treeh416 when you made the directory it sayd there are files there?
[13:24] <Treeh416> yes
[13:24] <robg_> cpare: sorry cannot help. Each machine is different.
[13:24] <devilash> odinsbane I've found I'm running 'Hardy'. In ubuntu software, all the options are enabled (apart from 'Installable from CD-ROM/DVD CDrom with Ubuntu 8.04 'Hardy Heron'
[13:24] <Jaikkuli> when i use the first terminal command.. i am confronted with dpkg: need an action option
[13:24] <odinsbane> Treeh416 what I am try to get you to do is see if the partition is there, if you use the live cd like he says then that will tell you  and let you fix the problem.
[13:24] <obst> hello! why cant mv move a folder from one partition to another ?
[13:25] <Treeh416> Ok :D
[13:25] <m4cdaddy> How do i see what programs are installed on ubuntu
[13:25] <Treeh416> umm
[13:25] <Treeh416> I inserted the live CD
[13:25] <Treeh416> but
[13:25] <odinsbane> devilash how about updates, hardy-security, -updates -backports
[13:25] <Treeh416> in GRUB there are the same options as before
[13:25] <Treeh416> should I boot from CD instead?
[13:25] <FloodBot3> Treeh416: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:25] <m4cdaddy> How do i see what programs are installed on ubuntu
[13:26] <obst> m4cdaddy, you could open the synaptic package manager to see which packages are installed
[13:26] <robg_> Treeh416: you have to shut down the machine and boot from CD-ROM
[13:26] <Treeh416> Ok
[13:26] <devilash> odinsbane Under updates, the boxes that are enabled are 'important security updates' and 'recommended updates', should I enable 'Proposed updates' and 'unsupported updates'?
[13:26] <odinsbane> devilash if you have all of those available go to the command line and type 'sudo apt-get update'
[13:26] <hooer> allo
[13:26] <m4cdaddy> obst: I was looking for the command
[13:27] <odinsbane> devilash enable hard-backports ... I supposed unsupported
[13:27] <obst> m4cdaddy, it's "synaptic"
[13:27] <Treeh416> Shoot
[13:27] <devilash> Odinsbane right, it's 'Downloading package information' now.
[13:27] <Treeh416> I have a slight problem:
[13:27] <Treeh416> I formatted the CD im using
[13:27] <m4cdaddy> obst: no i mean that lists all installed programs
[13:27] <Treeh416> and I just dragged and dropped the iso....
[13:27] <polysilicon> whats the better way of allocating partitions to windows and linux on a 160GB hdd. 60GB win and 100GB linux?
[13:27] <Treeh416> as infrareorder wouldn't burn the Cd...
[13:27] <areels> m4cdaddy: don't you have synaptic?
[13:28] <Treeh416> It won't boot from CD...and I don't have anymore CD-RW/R left...
[13:28] <m4cdaddy> areels: yes i do, no matter i will use that
[13:28] <odinsbane> polysilicon 0GB windows 160GB linux
[13:28] <polysilicon> lol
[13:28] <polysilicon> I need it for gaming
[13:28] <robg_> ploysilicon: you do not have complete control over partitioning as there is partition logic built in that will prevail.
[13:28] <polysilicon> only for gaming(
[13:28] <devilash> ODINSBANE Right, thats done. Should i go back into Synaptic and see whats on there?
[13:28] <Jaikkuli> someone tell me what is incomplete baout this following command "sudo dpkg –force-all -i cairo-dock*.deb"
[13:29] <robg_> Treeh416: get some help
[13:29] <devilash> odinsbane I've marked b43-fwcutter for installation
[13:29] <polysilicon> odinsbane, do you play games?
[13:29] <odinsbane> devilash or type sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter bcm43xx-fwcutter
[13:29] <odinsbane> polysilicon no.  So I have a 60gb xp chunk that I don't do anything with.
[13:30] <kd8ikt> boy do i hate broadcom
[13:30] <devilash> odinsbane right, thats done.
[13:30] <robg_> polysilicon: then you try to reduce the size of that partition
[13:30] <obst> m4cdaddy, then you can use dpkg: "dpkg --get-selections > /backup/installed-software.log" this will copy a list of your installed packages into a file
[13:30] <Xorothal> When I try to set up port forwarding with virtualbox ose, the machine crashes (aborts). In a windows guest this happens shortly after the screen resolution changes after the windows xp loading screen, in ubuntu server this happens a couple of seconds after the boot option is selected in grub
[13:30] <odinsbane> devilash cool, after you install it you should be able to find broadcomm in your hardware drivers.
[13:30] <Jaikkuli> ﻿someone tell me what is incomplete baout this following command "sudo dpkg –force-all -i cairo-dock*.deb"
[13:31] <devilash> odinsbane nope, it's not on there >.>
[13:31] <m4cdaddy> obst: thank you this is what i was looking for : )
[13:31] <robg_> polysilicon: the problem is that if you reduce the size of a partition it may just become empty space available to no OS.
[13:31] <gorski> no grayscale printing option in hardy heron!!!
[13:32] <odinsbane> devilash you need to download the firmware.
[13:32] <obst> no problem :D
[13:32] <devilash> obinsbane and I can get that from google...?
[13:32] <odinsbane> devilash you should be able too.
[13:32] <obst> now please someone explain me why mv cant move a folder from one partition to another
[13:32] <jappe> Hey guys, anybody know why Ubuntu  stops at install, no error codes or anything? just the nice new bg is shown and mouse working..
[13:33] <jappe> the live CD doesn't load properly
[13:33] <odinsbane> obst write permissions
[13:33] <lc> d
[13:33] <Jessica954> Hi Folks.  I've been running my webserver on an old RH9.2 build for years.  (she quickly dodges all the rotten fruit being thrown at her).  I'm thinking of puting ubuntu on an old dell latitude laptop to serve the same function, but I really don't want to spend a lot of time learning a new distro.  how plug-n-play can an do this?  I just run a simple webserver.  I might put VNC and a mailserver on it as well, but that's about
[13:33] <obst> odinsbane, i do it with "sudo"
[13:33] <danbhfive> Jaikkuli: can you paste the contents of this command "ls -al"
[13:34] <lc> #join ubuntu-cn
[13:34] <odinsbane> obst then the drive might not be mounted as 'writeable.'
[13:34] <ePax> !lamp | Jessica954
[13:34] <AcornAcorn> how do you change what the login screen looks like?
[13:34] <odinsbane> obst where have you mounted the other filesystem
[13:34] <obst> odinsbane, I want to move a folder /home/obst/Desktop/weather to /usr/share/desklets but it says "cant remove target: Is a directory"
[13:35] <odinsbane> is desklets a file?
[13:35] <obst> a folder
[13:35] <devilash> odinsbane I'm not having much luck finding the firmware, I've got to a broadcom support page, but I'm not sure what I need to get; 'netxtreme desktop/mobile', 'netxtreme II', 'netlink 57xx' or 'netlink 4401'
[13:36] <Jessica954> ok, so look into lamp.  but heres another question:  When I have issues, are you folks a -little- more helpful than #linuxhelp?  those guys can be real shits when I come in asking questions.
[13:36] <danbhfive> Jessica954: it will depend on who is here
[13:36] <gorski> no grayscale printing option in hardy heron!!! anyone?
[13:36] <kd8ikt> best to search the forums and/or linuxquestions.org
[13:36] <micoh> acorn: should be an option in system where it says "login window"
[13:36] <Flynsarmy> Pidgin 2.4.2 has been out for a week or so hasn't it? Why isn't it in apt?
[13:36] <obst> odinsbane, this is my command-shell: obst@obst-desktop:/usr/share/gdesklets$ sudo mv /home/obst/Desktop/weather/* ./ -> then it throws the error
[13:37] <kd8ikt> then if you still have issues make a post
[13:37] <odinsbane> Jessica954 you'll probably have to ask questions to specific channels, such as apache if you are having trouble with a lamp server.  The ubuntu end works pretty well.
[13:37] <jrib> !timebasedreleases > Flynsarmy (read the private message from ubottu)
[13:37] <AcornAcorn> micoh, where do i find system?
[13:37] <Jessica954> dan, thats a bit of a shame.  when my webserver goes down, its a pain to have some 13 y/o pest ask me about my boobs.
[13:37] <Flynsarmy> jrib: That's a ubuntu release. Pidgin is a program
[13:37] <micoh> acorn: on ubuntu.. it should be on the top panel
[13:37] <odinsbane> obst you don't have to do the /*
[13:38] <obst> odinsbane, thank you very much :D
[13:38] <danbhfive> Jessica954: but if I were to guess, if you have questions like how to configure your mailserver, you will probably have trouble getting help here.  But if you have questions about installing packages, whatever, people will be able to help
[13:38] <toresn> i would like to find every directory that has a word that starts with a lower case ... how can i do this with the find command?
[13:38] <AcornAcorn> micoh, I deleted it by accident :(
[13:38] <jrib> Flynsarmy: I can't help you, if you don't bother to read the information I send you
[13:38] <Jessica954> ok
[13:38] <Jessica954> thanks
[13:38] <micoh> acorn: ohhh.. hmm.. you could try right clicking and then editing the panel
[13:39] <AcornAcorn> micoh, is it in administration?
[13:39] <danbhfive> Jessica954: lol, go by a non-girly name maybe?  There is actually some sort of Ubuntu Women's club somewhere
[13:39] <tadzhikaz> has linux something like debug in windows command prompt?
[13:39] <Jessica954> if I want to install a fairly stripped down and stable version of ubuntu, what do I want to d/l?  what about a fully fleshed out build?
[13:40] <odinsbane> Jessica954 there is a server version.
[13:40] <lenatis> OO
[13:40] <micoh> acorn: yea.. there are 2 submenus there... one should have it.. if it's not in "administration" its in the preferences.. sorry i can't tell yyou right off the bat.. i'm also kinda new to ubuntu and i'm on kubuntu right now
[13:40] <odinsbane> Jessica954 when you look up lamp it will tell you about that .
[13:40] <Jessica954> dan, I don't like hiding behind some handle.
[13:40] <hooer> anyone know where i could get help with writing a script?
[13:40] <robg_> Jessica954: you can download desktop and server versions from //releases.ubuntu.com
[13:41] <lenatis> how can i getting startted learnning BASH??
[13:41] <Horscht> Hi, I have a small problem on ubuntu hardy heron
[13:41] <Flynsarmy> jrib: I've glanced over these sites. They're talking about ubuntu time-based release schedule. I don't see what that has to do with program updates apeparing in apt. Firefox updates through there i dont see why pidgin doesn't
[13:41] <Jessica954> the server version is just a basic build, right?
[13:41] <ePax> hooer: #perl #c #c++ #html #php or whatever script you mean.
[13:41] <robg_> Jessica954: download and find out
[13:42] <Horscht> I am trying to install the package libgl1-mesa-dev on my machine, but apt-get always cancels with an error.
[13:42] <odinsbane> Jessica954, I don't use it, I use the desktop version.
[13:42] <Horscht> Fehler beim Erzeugen des symbolischen Verweises »./usr/lib/libGL.so«: No such file or directory -> Error creating symbolic link
[13:42] <odinsbane> Jessica954 as long as your not running the desktop, I don't know the differnts maybe half a gig.
[13:42] <unreal-slon> всем привет
[13:42] <ehj> I need a GPL'ed membership system. Preferably in python. Any tips?
[13:43] <jrib> Flynsarmy: your answer is on the page.  I don't have the energy to repeat what the page says at the moment.  It tells you exactly what kind of updates make it into stable releases.  New versions are not one of them
[13:43] <gorski> no grayscale printing option in hardy heron!!! anyone?
[13:43] <ePax> Horscht: Try to install it with synaptic
[13:43] <Jessica954> and, one -can- run the desktop on the server version if one wants?  correct?  it's just not optimized to do so?
[13:43] <unreal-slon> Hwo can help me with Tv tunner ?
[13:43] <ePax> !russian | unreal-slon
[13:43] <robg_> Jessica954: you use desktops als clients and servers as servers.
[13:43] <odinsbane> devilash this really should be somewhat automatic.  before you do anything drastic you might try running b43-fwcutter
[13:43] <Horscht> ePax, I tried that as well. it returned the same error
[13:44] <devilash> odinsbane I have >.>
[13:44] <odinsbane> devilash what did it tell you?
[13:44] <AcornAcorn> Does anyone know how to change what the startup login looks like?
[13:44] <danbhfive> Jessica954: I don't think there is a difference between the two, besides what the default package setup is.  There used to be different kernels, but now I don't think there is.
[13:44] <devilash> odinsbane yupyup
[13:44] <hooer> ePax, i mean a simple bash script or something like that. basically i just want to ping the gateway, if it gets "network unreachable" i want it do run "ifdown bond0; ifup bond0"
[13:44] <ePax> Horscht: Have you tryed to search google for that error? you maybe dont have all dependencies
[13:44] <odinsbane> devilash you might have to sudo b43-fwcutter
[13:45] <dixon> Hi, has anyone tried to compile iptables? I patched iptables with l7-filter and compiled it make, sudo make install. When I type iptables it says I don't have iptables installed. What am I doing wrong?
[13:45] <devilash> odinsbane Okay, I'll try that now
[13:45] <Jessica954> dan, is the server build a gui interface by default?
[13:45] <Xorothal> When I try to set up port forwarding with virtualbox in ubuntu hardy, the guest crashes (aborts).
[13:45] <Xorothal> In a windows guest this happens shortly after the screen resolution changes after the windows xp loading screen, in ubuntu server this happens a couple of seconds after the boot option is selected in grub.
[13:45] <jrib> Flynsarmy: you might be able to get the new version from backports of course
[13:45] <devilash> odinsbane Right, I did that and it's gave me a menu.
[13:45] <danbhfive> Jessica954: no, opposite.  If you want a gui, get the desktop
[13:45] <Horscht> ePax, 4 results on google
[13:45] <odinsbane> Jessica954 if not you can install it with apt-get.
[13:46] <Jessica954> dan, i dont think i want the overhead of a gui.  the dell is not a powerhouse
[13:46] <Flynsarmy> !backports > flynsarmy
[13:46] <AlphaOmega> youtube no worky!  :(
[13:46] <Jessica954> brb
[13:46] <AlphaOmega> ff2, no error either
[13:46] <AlphaOmega> just a white box instead of kitten videos
[13:46] <langleyo> what is best free software to run a virtual machine on my desktop under ubuntu please?
[13:47] <Horscht> ePax, but one of them is a launchpad bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/231930
[13:47] <odinsbane> Jessica I have P3 with 256 megs of ram and a full desktop and I couldn't overload it over a wifi connection, unless I make a bad script.
[13:47] <danbhfive> Jessica954: if you get the desktop version, then follow the !lamp directions. you will have both.   If you get the server install, and install the ubuntu-desktop metapackage, you will be in the exact same place
[13:47] <esteth> Could anyone tell me why vmware-server is not in the repository for hardy? I'm sure it was back in feisty.
[13:47] <Georgij> Hello, how to setup a splash screen?
[13:47] <AlphaOmega> can someone help me please? ^^
[13:48] <suriro> hooer: visit #bash
[13:48] <langleyo> alphaomega: u using firefox?
[13:48] <AlphaOmega> ff2
[13:48] <suriro> AcornAcorn: try to restore your menu bar, it's all there
[13:48] <aimtrainer_> hi! I'm having a bit of a samba problem here - hardy amd64 - when I start samba via system prefs samba it crashes ... can anyone help me please?
[13:48] <odinsbane> Jessica954 really the desktop is not going to add overhead unless you are running it while the server is running.
[13:48] <AlphaOmega> ubuntu 7.10
 install flash-player
[13:49] <AlphaOmega> ok
[13:49] <Treeh416> robg: I reformatted the disk and got it to work.
[13:49] <Treeh416> I'm not in the Gnome Partitioner Editor
[13:49] <langleyo> alpha omega: try this website? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-how-to-install-flash-player-for-firefox/
[13:49] <Treeh416> I'm now***
[13:49] <Georgij> How to change the splash screen in ubuntu?
[13:49] <Jessica954> odin, this old dell is -not- a p3 with 256m.  Am I just wasting my time looking at a new OS like ubuntu?  What ever happened to the folks who built OSes on floppies?  I want small, stable, and fast.
[13:49] <robg_> Treeh416: great job and what do you see ?
[13:49] <Treeh416> A ton of options...
[13:49] <Treeh416> Shoulod I list em?
[13:49] <AlphaOmega> BuFF: E: Couldn't find package flash-player
[13:49] <AcornAcorn> suriro, wow, i only just opened, took about 3 mintutes for login window preferences to open
[13:50] <AcornAcorn> *it
[13:50] <odinsbane> Jessica954 well then maybe the server-version is the one you want, you might have trouble with the desktop.
[13:50] <robg_> Don't try anything out. Think hard first about what you want to do.
[13:50] <Georgij> ﻿How to change the splash screen in ubuntu?
[13:50] <langleyo> alphaomega: check out the link i posted for you
[13:50] <Treeh416> ?
[13:50] <AlphaOmega> langleyo: ok ty
[13:51] <AcornAcorn> Georgij, Administration>Login Window
[13:51] <langleyo> lemme know if its any use
[13:51] <robg_> Treeh416: You have not booted gparted?
[13:51] <BuFF> AlphaOmega: install flash-player should work
[13:51] <Treeh416> robg_: No, I have
[13:51] <Jessica954> allrighty then.  the server version it is.  thanks guys.  As the govenator says "I'll be back".
[13:51] <devilash> odinsbane so, I've done sudo b43-fwcutter and it gave me a menu, where should I go from there?
[13:51] <AlphaOmega> BuFF: but it didnt
[13:51] <Treeh416> robg_: I just have a ton of options and don't know which to select
[13:51] <AXE2008> има ли българи
[13:51] <AlphaOmega> i have 3rd party selected too
[13:51] <odinsbane> devilash, I don't know what the menu is.
[13:51] <Treeh416> robg_ From auto configs to drivers to "Hp Laptop"...
[13:51] <AlphaOmega> in sources
[13:52] <loluser> http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5020990&postcount=1
[13:52] <ehj> Anyone knows about GPL'ed membership systems for NGOs (preferably in python)?
[13:52] <robg_> Treeh416: then you are looking at a map of your harddisk
[13:52] <devilash> odinsbane I'll pastebin it.
[13:52] <Treeh416> robg_: Oh...I don't have an HP Laptop :S
[13:52] <Treeh416> xD
[13:52] <odinsbane> devilash you need the firmware, it will give you a url...I think.
[13:52] <Treeh416> robg_ But yeah it says I have 4 partitions on my first harddrive
[13:52] <loluser> hey can someone please help me with this problem i have here http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5020990&postcount=1
[13:52] <Treeh416> robg_: It doesn't label any of em though...so should I try different ones :S?
[13:52] <Georgij> AcornAcorn but that is the login screens no the splash screens :S
[13:53] <danbhfive> loluser: I bet it start with getting two nics, but I dont know
[13:53] <seishinbyou> I have an HP 6715s laptop and though 7.10 works fine, 8.04 refused to even boot on this (through upgrade or fresh install)...just bad luck?
[13:53] <devilash> odinsbane http://pastebin.com/d28ae2dd3
[13:53] <robg_> Treeh416: what is in the 4 partitions and what do you want to do with them ?
[13:53] <BuFF> AlphaOmega: if u still need help -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4073291
[13:53] <wizo> hey guys, i'm having problems with my brightness control. in 7.10, i think i could still increase the brightness, however in 8.04 i can't. i have tried replacing the video_brightnessup.sh adn video_brightnessdown.sh files with those that i found in teh forums, but they don't seem to work also
[13:53] <AcornAcorn> Georgij, oh, I want to know that too
[13:53] <Treeh416> robg_ I have no idea what is on each partition. From what I know, I only have 2...Windows and Ubuntu...but I'm trying to boot into Windows...should I just try the 1st partition?
[13:54] <loluser> danbhfive oh ok, i only have one nick, im trying to use squid to cache webpages on my machine, so i cut the bandwidth down a bit
[13:54] <loluser> *nic card i mean
[13:54] <AlphaOmega> BuFF: that link worked from langleyo
[13:54] <AlphaOmega> langleyo: thanks!
[13:54] <BuFF> ok :)
[13:54] <robg_> Treeh416: gparted is a partition editor. You use it to edit paritions. You cannot use it to boot an OS.
[13:55] <wizo> the weird thing here is, if i press fn f8 or f9(keys for volume), the volume works well, but when i try pressing fn f6 or f7(keys for brightness) it doesnt work. what does it mean?
[13:55] <Treeh416> robg_: Oh...but what am I supposed to be doing then? Remember: I'm trying to boot into Windows, and GRUB isn't showing the option to.
[13:55] <Jessica954> hey, is there an over-the-net build of the server version, or is my only option getting the cd image?
[13:55] <odinsbane> Treeh416 the other partitions have to do with running linux.
[13:56] <Treeh416> Ok
[13:56] <Treeh416> But...how do I boot into windows :S?
[13:56] <danbhfive> !netinstall > Jessica954
[13:56] <robg_> Treeh416: you are trying to find out what your install problem is.
[13:56] <Rockj> Hi, im having an Intel HD audio card, why does applications steal the audio input/output's? I need to kill the running application who uses the sound before I can use it in another application. If im going to watch a video on youtube, I have to kill amarok first and restart all applications. Its QUITE annoying..
[13:56] <Rockj> anyone know anything about that?
[13:56] <Treeh416> Ok...how do I find it out XD?
[13:56] <blumm> hi, does anybody know how to setup a socks5 proxy in lftp ?
[13:56] <Jessica954> dan, where do I find the netinstall?
[13:56] <danbhfive> Jessica954: see if you got a pm from ubottu
[13:57] <danbhfive> !fixgrub > Treeh416 have you tried these directions?  (See pm from ubottu)
[13:57] <wizo> it's really hard to view a dim screen
[13:57] <Jessica954> thx all
[13:57] <microtel>  #baroque-fr
[13:58] <microtel> plop
[13:58] <Treeh416> danbhfive: What do you mean?
[13:58] <Treeh416> danbhfive: Who's ubottu... :S?
[13:58] <robg_> Treeh416: It depends on what you want to do with your harddisk. You can delete a partition with a failing OS and do a re-install. You will need some help from a friend.
[13:58] <wizo> when i do a cat /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/LCD/brightness it returns <not supported>
[13:59] <Treeh416> robg_: I don't have anyone who can help me...I need to boot into windows today, I have school work I need to do. Do you think a repair install of windows willhelp?
[13:59] <danbhfive> !ubottu | Treeh416
[13:59] <odinsbane> devilash, I think what you have to do is extract the firmware then mod-probe it, but it should all be automatic in hard.  I would recommend rebooting then going to the hardware drivers and see if broadcomm is available.
[13:59] <Treeh416> ubottu: !fixgrup
[13:59] <BuFF> wizo: check power management
[13:59] <devilash> odinsbane Okay, I'll do it now
[13:59] <Treeh416> ubottu: !fixgrub
[13:59] <robg_> Treeh416: If you have install disks for Windows then you can re-install Windows and overwrite everything on the hard disk.
[14:00] <blumm> please, someone help me with lftp - there is very few information on google
[14:00] <scunizi> !grub
[14:00] <Treeh416> robg_: Uggg....I have all my school work backed up...but I'm really trying to avoid a reinstall...isn't there a better way?
[14:00] <wizo> BuFF: in what sense? i've checked it already i think, what should i look out for? i'm on the power supply now
[14:00] <robg_> Treeh416: I cannot see from here if your disk is messed up or not.
[14:01] <Treeh416> robg_: Isn't there anyway I can tell yu?
[14:01] <Treeh416> robg_: I will be happy to list all the options I got
[14:01] <robg_> Treeh416: Try to force a Windows boot.
[14:01] <BuFF> wizo: check power management and uncheck dimm
[14:01] <zackyramone> can anyone help me set a web server?
[14:01] <Treeh416> robg_: Using a windows cd?
[14:01] <Treeh416> robg_: or this program?
[14:01] <Treeh416> robg_: Not sure how xD
[14:02] <odinsbane> treeh416 how about this...but note that your windows partition is not at the same spot.
[14:02] <wizo> BuFF: hmm, i don't see a dim anywhere.. but i swear i've seen it before, the option was for battery.. lemme find it
[14:02] <odinsbane> treeh416 link :  http://www.linux-sxs.org/administration/grubxp.html
[14:02] <Treeh416> odinsbane: Ok...go on...anything tohelp :)
[14:02] <Treeh416> ok
[14:02] <gorbierd> I just installed ubuntu studio, but my touchpad doesn`t found(it works like simple mouse and there is no touchpad tab in mouse options). What do i install to get it work?
[14:02] <Slo1> Hwo can help me with tunning tv card ? If you know it please send me privete msg
[14:02] <devilash> odinsbane nope, I've rebooted and it's not on the 'Hardware Drivers' list
[14:03] <Slo1> ﻿Hwo can help me with tunning tv card ? If you know it please send me privete msg
[14:03] <scunizi> Treeh416, I came in late and don't know if I can help but do you  have 2 harddrives? one with windows and the other with ubuntu?
[14:03] <devilash> http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=http://www.urbandead.com
[14:03] <Treeh416> sunizi: No
[14:03] <Treeh416> scunizi: Both are on the same HDD
[14:03] <devilash> Wrong window >.>
[14:03] <HAVOC_> openbox
[14:04] <Treeh416> scunizi: I'm not sure if I even installed it correctly..
[14:04] <odinsbane> devilash http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[14:04] <scunizi> Treeh416, and when you boot do you get a menu from grub?
[14:04] <ntolo>  I have been using 8.04 for a while now but today i realise my sound is gone even when i restart it is not working.
[14:04] <xukun> How can I configure the monitor section for my xorg.conf so I can connect the s-video for my ati x300 card, I have 72cm wide-screen crt tv
[14:04] <Treeh416> scunizi: From the Ubuntu 8 installer I just went with the first option
[14:04] <Treeh416> scunizi: Yes, but Windows isn't listed
[14:04] <odinsbane> This tells you where to get the firmware and how to go about installing.
[14:04] <robg_> Treeh416: I suspect that you have messed up an install. Do a re-install.
[14:04] <Treeh416> odinsbane: It's gibberish to me...where would I enter that in? In terminal?
[14:04] <scunizi> Treeh416, the first option I think is "Use entire drive" .. does that ring a bell?
[14:04] <odinsbane> Treeh416 go to your terminal type in fdisk -l
[14:05] <Treeh416> scunizi: I believe so. In guide I read it said it wouldn't format my HDD....so did it?/
[14:05] <odinsbane> you should have say /dev/sda5 ????/NTFS
[14:05] <Treeh416> odinsbane: Ok, one sec
[14:05] <devilash> odinsbane I think it's the firmware that I'm missing; it has to be.
[14:05] <barikulkol> hi
[14:05] <rian> Hi all, is there anywhere that explains how to set up audio input for ubuntu?
[14:05] <areels> can i use lxde instead gnome?
[14:06] <gorbierd> Anyone can help me with my touchpad problem?
[14:06] <scunizi> odinsbane, Treeh416 windows typically remains at the beginning of the drive (desktop)
[14:06] <xukun> anybody?
[14:06] <scunizi> sda1
[14:06] <barikulkol> ubuntu hardy heron is great
[14:06] <Treeh416> Guys, I'm not sure if this is significant, but whenI load up Ubuntu, for the first few seconds prior to the login screen everything is like a huge artifact on my screen
[14:06] <seriouslycgi> i updated to 8.04 server because of the ssh issues and now one of my disks wont work in ubuntu but they are ok in bios, how do i diagnose the disk?
[14:06] <barikulkol> but linux mint elyssa is better
[14:07] <scunizi> Treeh416, doesn't have anything to do with it.
[14:07] <Treeh416> ok
[14:07] <metalpres> is 8.04 better than gutsy?  i have been using gutsy for a long time with no problems and now everything is just breaking all over the place for no apparent reason, should i bother upgrading?
[14:07] <odinsbane> devilash that link I sent has pretty explicit instructions to getting the firmware.
[14:07] <zackyramone> can anyone help me set a web server?
[14:08] <scunizi> Treeh416, did you do what odinsbane asked?  fdisk -l ?
[14:08] <barikulkol> yes it is better than gutsy, the bugs in nvidia onboard audio is fixed
[14:08] <aniket> how to automount my ntfs partiions ????
[14:08] <Treeh416> yes
[14:08] <Treeh416> just now
[14:08] <Treeh416> It said
[14:08] <Treeh416> invalid option?
[14:08] <FloodBot3> Treeh416: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:08] <hypn0> metalpres: I'd wait for firefox 3 final to come out first
[14:08] <barikulkol> firefox beta 3 sucks
[14:09] <robg_> Treeh416: I suspect that Windows is no longer on your harddisk.
[14:09] <barikulkol> crashes on youtube frequently
[14:09] <Treeh416> robg_: Crap o.O
[14:09] <scunizi> Treeh416, the -l part is actually an "L" not a 1 (one) or an I (eye)
[14:09] <odinsbane> Treeh416 it is an L
[14:09] <odinsbane> type in sudo fdisk -l
[14:09] <Treeh416> Oh..
[14:09] <rian> ﻿is there anywhere that explains how to set up audio input for ubuntu?
[14:09] <odinsbane> treeh416 I don't get any output unless I 'sudo fdisk -l'
[14:09] <robg_> Treeh416: before you install OSes you must first study the matter.
[14:10] <odinsbane> rian are you using a dell vostros?
[14:10] <Treeh416> ok it worked
[14:10] <Treeh416> robg_: I realize now XD
[14:10] <Treeh416> I have
[14:10] <Treeh416> sda1, sda2, and sda5
[14:10] <Treeh416> ....all linux
[14:10] <Treeh416> damn >.>
[14:10] <rian> ﻿odinsbane: Sorry, I do not understand the question
[14:10] <devilash> odinsbane I still can't do it >.>
[14:10] <scunizi> Treeh416, That means you wiped out windows.
[14:10] <robg_> Treeh416: proceed from the assumption that you have only Ubuntu on your harddisk.
[14:11] <rian> I have an Acer and using 804
[14:11] <scunizi> odinsbane, I'm on a vostro.. with the audio prob..
[14:11] <[swb]> I have a question folks: The debian SSL random number generator problem.. does this affect ubuntu systems?
[14:11] <Treeh416> Ok.well...I'll re-install it
[14:11] <odinsbane> scunizi I recently got my mic working again.
[14:11] <AcornAcorn> How can I use the extra buttons on my keyboard?
[14:11] <Treeh416> Guys, can you help me with more thing?
[14:11] <wizo> can anyone advise me of where the checkbox for dimming is?
[14:11] <wizo> i cant find it under power management
[14:11] <Treeh416> I need to set up my wifi usb adapter in Linux...have NO idea how to go about doing this
[14:11] <scunizi> Treeh416, if you're adventurous., download VMWare server and install windows inside of that so you can run windows in a window in Ubuntu
[14:11] <rignes_> [swb]: Yup, I had to update and regenerate my ssl keys.
[14:12] <Treeh416> scunizi: I was planning to do exactly this
[14:12] <[swb]> rignes, is there an easy procedure to do this?
[14:12] <odinsbane> rian There was a problem with the vostros internal mic.  Otherwise you should be able to set it up using alsa mixer.
[14:12] <[swb]> apt-get regenerate-all-my-broken-keys or something like that ;)
[14:12] <Treeh416> scunizi: Is VMWare better than Win4Lit ?
[14:12] <AcornAcorn> How can I use the extra buttons on my keyboard?
[14:13] <rian> ﻿odinsbane: Thanks, did that, butvery little luck
[14:13] <Ace2016> press them
[14:13] <rignes> [swb]: I'm looking up the link right now
[14:13] <layo> hey,guys!
[14:13] <Ace2016> hey
[14:13] <Steve-cal> Can someone tell me what the advantage/disadvantage is of using UUID to specify my drives to mount on startup in my fstab file? Why not simply specify the device as /dev/hdaX or similar?
[14:13] <scunizi> Treeh416, I've never used Win4Lit, VMWare offers some usb support that some of the others don't.  I've used it for about 1.5 yrs now
[14:13] <rian> ﻿odinsbane: It only works with the microphone jack, not the internal one
[14:13] <rignes> [swb]: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/13/openssh-openssh-vulnerabilities-confirm-fix-instructions/
[14:13] <[swb]> Steve-cal, they may chanfge positions
[14:13] <AcornAcorn> Ace2016, I need to be able to set them up
[14:13] <Ace2016> oh
[14:13] <rignes> Sorry, probably should have tiny urled that.  But you get the idea. ;)
[14:13] <Treeh416> sunizi: Ok, great. Also, can you help me install a Siemens USB stick 108 WiFi adapter...I need an internet connection inside Ubuntu
[14:13] <[swb]> Steve-cal, for example, if you change master to slae or change the cable they are on, the sdX will change, so all your mountpoints and grub and boot image would be all wrong
[14:14] <odinsbane> rian lemme look at the file I editted.
[14:14] <AcornAcorn> I should be able to change what the shortcut keys on my keyboard do right?
[14:14] <[swb]> but with UUID you can move them to your hearts content and it will always mount them in the right place
[14:14] <aniket> how to automount my ntfs partiions ????
[14:14] <rian> ﻿odinsbane: Thanks
[14:14] <Treeh416> Sunizi: If worst comes to worst, I also have a robotics PCI wifi card I slot in...?
[14:14] <Ace2016> AcornAcorn: open up a terminal and run xev, then press the extra buttons
[14:14] <robg_> Treeh416: your plans exceed your capabilities.
[14:14] <layo> AcornAcorn, u should instrall the driver
[14:14] <Myrtti> aniket: with fstab
[14:14] <Treeh416> robg_: To install a wifi adapter :O?
[14:14] <[swb]> some distros used to chanfge the sdXs seemingly randomly as well
[14:14] <Steve-cal> swb: OK I see. So to get the UUID I use the "blkid" command, correct?
[14:14] <AcornAcorn> Ace2016, should I do that? or install the driver?
[14:15] <scunizi> Treeh416, I can only tell you that when I use my lappy I have to tell it my networks ssid name every boot, then it connects.. as for installing drivers I'm not the one.
[14:15] <robg_> Treeh416: learn first how to correctly install and OS.
[14:15] <Ace2016> driver?
[14:15] <seriouslycgi> [swb], do you have to have the uuid? i removed it on one of my drives because of a superblock error or something i cant get the drive to mount
[14:15] <[swb]> Steve-cal, now you've lost me, I know why its there, but I dont know how to use it properly!
[14:15] <AcornAcorn> Ace2016, I don't think it would be possible to find a driver for the keyboard
[14:15] <Treeh416> robg_: I know...but this is somewhat urgent...I have school work to do...need an internet connection >.>
[14:15] <[swb]> I dont understand it fully, I am much more comfortable with just sdXs
[14:15] <Treeh416> robg_: I guess I should go install Windows..huh?
[14:15] <[swb]> which is a shame
[14:15] <scunizi> Treeh416, you may just be able to plug it in (if external) then set the ssid and go.
[14:15] <robg_> Treeh416: You have Ubuntu on your harddisk so use that.
[14:15] <[swb]> I saw something good on the net describing how to use it properly though, suggest you google it
[14:16] <wizo> BuFF: i cannot find dim under power management. there is only two tabs, one is On AC Power, the other is General
[14:16] <aniket> Myrtti, isnt't there  any GUI way of doing it?
[14:16] <Treeh416> robg_: Yes, I want to. But I need an internet conncetion...
[14:16] <[swb]> seriouslycgi, afaik you dont need to use it
[14:16] <Ace2016> why do you need a driver? the keyboard sends which buttons were pressed to linux, linux then needs to asign commands for the key presses, although sometimes the keys may not register but usually you just need the drivers
[14:16] <odinsbane> Treeh416 my recommendation, install windows and wipe out ubuntu, then install ubuntu and make sure you partition the drive with windows and linux
[14:16] <Steve-cal> swb: OK, no problem, thanks for the info though. :)
[14:16] <[swb]> as long as you have the right sd or hd number and you a have that in /etc/fstab
[14:16] <Myrtti> aniket: if there are, I don't know about them
[14:16] <odinsbane> Treeh416 that is the easiest way because windows does not play well with others.
[14:16] <Ace2016> i mean usually you just need to asign commands ***
[14:17] <scunizi> Treeh416, odinsbane 's probably right if you have urgent school work to do.. it might take time  getting wireless to work..
[14:17] <aniket> Myrtti, k so how to configre my fstab?
[14:17] <Treeh416> scunizi: It takes time to install Windows :(
[14:17] <BuFF> wizo: http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotpowermanagemeeh6.png
[14:17] <Myrtti> !fstab | aniket
[14:17] <Treeh416> scunizi: Can we quickly try to set up wireless..and if that doesn't work...I'll resort to windows
[14:17] <scunizi> Treeh416, last attempt  3 hours for me.
[14:17] <odinsbane> Treeh416 type in iwconfig
[14:18] <scunizi> Treeh416, let odinsbane help there .. I'm not good with wireless
[14:18] <Treeh416> odinsbane: No wireless extensions
[14:18] <Treeh416> scunizi: Ok
[14:18] <robg_> Treeh416: it will take more time than you have.
[14:18] <Treeh416> sunzini: thanks anway
[14:18] <scunizi>  np
[14:18] <wizo> BuFF: i do not have battery power option :(
[14:18] <Treeh416> robg_: I have this laptop I'm using now as a last resort if it doesn'tgowell
[14:18] <babolat> A little favor. can anyone tell me if It Works ... please.... http://121.96.217.3/
[14:18] <ledmushroom> ok is there a app or somthing that would let me join voice in a yahoo pm or any other app that would let me talk via mic
[14:18] <odinsbane> Treeh416 you have an external card?  I have two, one I plug in and it works, the other one...well it is a netgear card and it is easy to get working.
[14:18] <wizo> BuFF: is it because i have unplugged my battery power?
[14:19] <bazhang> babolat, aye
[14:19] <robg_> Treeh416: find a friend who can help you.
[14:19] <wizo> i mean, i took out my battery
[14:19] <babolat> a'yt thanks
[14:19] <Treeh416> odinsbane: I have a USB one...and I have a PCI card if the USB one doesn'twork...
[14:19] <Treeh416> robg_: I'm considerd the most techy guy of the peopleI know...theres no one I know that even knows what Linux is...
[14:19] <AcornAcorn> Ace2016, how about xmodmap?
[14:19] <Rockj> Hi, im having an Intel HD audio card, why does applications steal the audio input/output's? I need to kill the running application who uses the sound before I can use it in another application. If im going to watch a video on youtube, I have to kill amarok first and restart all applications. Its QUITE annoying..
[14:19] <BuFF> wizo: maybe
[14:19] <scunizi> babolat, looks like you don't have a router is that right?
[14:19] <wizo> hmmm
[14:19] <wizo> ok i shall power off and power it on again
[14:19] <magnetron> babolat: you can use http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ next time, it's very useful
[14:20] <wizo> cyas later BuFF
[14:20] <odinsbane> Treeh416 who makes the cards?
[14:20] <robg_> Treeh416: first learn how to correctly install an OS.
[14:20] <Rockj> I've searched and readed that maybe alsa had some fix for this? like running an alsa daemon to solve multiple sound output?
[14:20] <Treeh416> odinsbane: USB= 108 stick by Siemens, PCI: Some model by U.S. Robotics
[14:20] <[swb]> Rockj, click preferences in the gnome meny
[14:20] <[swb]> menu
[14:20] <[swb]> and go  to audio
[14:20] <Treeh416> robg_: I will...over the summer...I have 2 weeks of school left and reallydon't have the time
[14:20] <odinsbane> Treeh416 plug in the pci card and type iwconfig
[14:20] <Treeh416> Ok...need to shutdown...brb
[14:20] <[swb]> try setting the sound playback to ESD and/or alsa
[14:21] <[swb]> and test again
[14:21] <babolat> cool site magnetron
[14:21] <[swb]> if one doenst work, try the other
[14:21] <odinsbane> Treeh416 wait
[14:21] <[swb]> also on the sounds tab make sure enable ESD sound mixing is ticket
[14:21] <[swb]> ticked
[14:22] <Rockj> [swb], sound capture is set to   ALSA.  ESD sound mixing is ticked.  default mixer is HDA Intel which probably got bad drivers after what I read on the internet
[14:22] <Rockj> try another mixer?
[14:23] <[swb]> Rockj, try setting play back to ESD first
[14:23] <Rockj> I can pick  realtek alc855 (OSS mixer), playback : alsa PCM on front:0 .. hmf, I dont have anything connected at front so I guess thats wrong one.    capture: monitour source of alsa pcm. front:0
[14:23] <devilash> odinsbane would it be easier if I used 'ndiswrapper'?
[14:23] <odinsbane> Treeh416 I was checking for the drivers but you could just try it.
[14:23] <[swb]> OSS is the suck
[14:23] <odinsbane> devilash ndiswrappers wasn't that hard.  There seem to be better tutorials out there.
[14:24] <Rockj> [swb], now im playing music in amarok, and the test button is working. let me try if it works with firefox..but I havent changed anything..
[14:24] <ntolo> How can a get the sound back in 8.04? All of a sudden the sound is gone and even when i restart its still gone.
[14:24] <Rockj> [swb], no sound output from firefox when amarok or something else got the soundinput.
[14:24] <odinsbane> devilash did you check that link I put up, it goes through the process of installing the firmware.
[14:25] <Steve-cal> Rockj: Try using ALSA with the "dmix" mixer (default mixer), and then in your audio programs make sure if there is an option to select the ALSA device use "default" instead of hd:0,0 or the name of your audio card. If you select your audio card, the program talks to it directly, i.e. 'monopolizes' it so other apps can't use the soundcard.
[14:25] <devilash> odinsbane Yeah, it didn't work for me.
[14:25] <robg_> ntolo:
[14:25] <jrib> ntolo: this just happened to me.  Maybe you are having the same issue: double click on the spearker icon and make sure PCM's volume is not zero
[14:25] <robg_> ntolo: you may consider going to medibuntu.org and install the repository (Pulse Audio).
[14:25] <[swb]> Rockj, I think perhaps the flash plugin for firefox has its own set of sound sharing issues
[14:25] <[swb]> try testing with amarok and xmms to rule that out
[14:25] <odinsbane> devilash where did it die?
[14:25] <devilash> odinsbane When I tried commands in the terminal (such as a wget) the link it gave me didn't work.
[14:25] <Rockj> Steve-cal, Ill check amarok settings.
[14:26] <Rockj> [swb], you say something there. let me apt-get xmms too.
[14:26] <arpreply> check this: http://pond-weed.com/multiplex/index.html
[14:26] <phantom1> Can sombody help me getting Miro to wark good or is it not ready?
[14:26] <icewaterman> why doesnt the ubuntu kernel make use of the nx-bit from modern processors?
[14:26] <icewaterman> uhm, NOT make use
[14:26] <exclipy> Quick question - what's the command in gnome that will open any file with whatever the associated program is for that file?
[14:26] <devilash> odinsbane Well, I'm not even sure if I'm following the right set of instructions >.>
[14:26] <icewaterman> exclipy: it is called double-click :)
[14:27] <mnemo> icewaterman: it doesn't? how do you know it doesn-t?
[14:27] <moa> I WANT TO PLAY TF2 WITH UBUNTU
[14:27] <icewaterman> mnemo: i tried a binary called paxtest
[14:27] <odinsbane> devilash I know what you mean there are a couple.
[14:27] <moa> :'[
[14:27] <adam7> !caps | moa
[14:27] <Treeh416> odinsbane: PCi card installed, booting into Ubuntu
[14:27] <moa> :l
[14:27] <jrib> !appdb | moa
[14:27] <jrib> !wine > moa (read the private message from ubottu)
[14:27] <icewaterman> mnemo: i compiled my own kernel and it uses it and ubuntu kernel doesnt
[14:28] <moa> ca marche pas
[14:28] <aguitel> hi
[14:28] <jrib> moa: appdb has instructions
[14:28] <wizo> BuFF: ok i have unchecked the dim checkbox. but i still can't change the brightness
[14:28] <wizo> i'm now on battery
[14:28] <devilash> odinsbane I just followed what you said (via downloading the b43-fwcutter, but I've no idea on the version O.o
[14:28] <moa> they have a channel in french?
[14:28] <moa> plz
[14:28] <bazhang> !fr
[14:28] <exclipy> icewaterman: dw, I found it, it's gnome-open
[14:28] <moa> thx!
[14:28] <AcornAcorn> Ace2016, I'm having trouble mapping the keys
[14:28] <phantom1> Isent there any fix to Miro ?
[14:28] <hwilde> !keytouch | Ace2016
[14:28] <odinsbane> devilash I have the ndis tutorial here Ill take a look at it.
[14:29] <Treeh416> odinsbane: It found the card
[14:29] <gescape> hi
[14:29] <mnemo> icewaterman: that sounds bad, you should probably e-mail the ubuntu kernel team at kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com and ask them
[14:29] <Treeh416> odinsbane: what do I do now?
[14:29] <Rockj> [swb], sorry for slow response, trying to figure out how xmms2 works.. heh..
[14:29] <odinsbane> Treeh416 sudo iwlist eth? scan
[14:29] <Rockj> before it was like winamp..
[14:29] <icewaterman> mnemo: the reason is usually because some ancient cpus will crash in case you use a pae enabled kernel
[14:30] <bazhang> audacious is more similar Rockj
[14:30] <odinsbane> Treeh416 do you have encryption on the wireless?
[14:30] <Treeh416> "interface doesn't support scanning"
[14:30] <icewaterman> but since ubuntu doesnt work well on anything <i686 that should not be a problem
[14:30] <Treeh416> odinsbane: no
[14:30] <[swb]> Rockj, Steve-cal sounds like he knows more than me anyway
[14:30] <Rockj> bazhang, ahh, there we have it :)
[14:30] <bazhang> :)
[14:30] <odinsbane> Treeh416 when you do the list it will show you all of the available networks.
[14:30] <Rockj> [swb], Ill just try playing with two different sources first - incase it is the flash plugin...
[14:31] <mnemo> icewaterman: i think ubuntu kernel team just decided to drop support for everything except x86 and x64 so maybe now is a good time to activate the NX stuff as well then
[14:31] <Treeh416> odinsbane: Just did, I didn't have roaming enabled
[14:31] <phantom1> By the way 64 bit Ubuntu has stil sostopers like no flash?
[14:31] <phantom1> ......
[14:31] <Rockj> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[14:31] <Rockj> MADPlug-Message: failed to open audio output: XMMS reverse compatibility output plugin
[14:31] <Treeh416> odinsbane: It found my router as well
[14:31] <bazhang> phantom1, flash has probs in 32bit
[14:31] <seishinbyou> well, I am on 64bit and flash is still messy
[14:31] <knation> How can i set startup program in terminal?
[14:31] <icewaterman> mnemo: it definately is
[14:32] <bazhang> knation, why not gui
[14:32] <odinsbane> Treeh416 sudo iwconfig eth? essid "routername"
[14:32] <Rockj> [swb],  mhm, I had to kill amarok first before audacious could play the file . so probably I have to reroute so application doesnt talk directtly to output device.
[14:32] <icewaterman> mnemo: since this is security related i'll post a security bug.
[14:32] <odinsbane> Treeh416 sudo dhclient eth?
[14:32] <phantom1> Are there other problems to or manly flash
[14:32] <gescape> what is the name of the package you need to install to get the utility to import photos from the digi camera? I saw this in Gnome on Fedora when you were connecting the camera it lunches automatically and allows you to import photos and delete them from the camera. My Ubuntu just mounts the memory stick :(
[14:32] <knation> bazhang, just I wonder
[14:32] <[swb]> gescape, strange, it should give you the option first
[14:32] <[swb]> to import them
[14:32] <scunizi> gescape, use fspot
[14:32] <seishinbyou> I used the 64bit just so I could get hdd data transfer rates that were acceptable
[14:32] <mnemo> icewaterman: yes, and also point out that they can turn it off on systems which doesn't support it, they don't have to turn it off for everyone
[14:32] <odinsbane> Treeh416, the essid is case sensitive and if you have spaces in the names surround it with quotes.
[14:33] <[swb]> I thought it did this "out of the box" so to speak
[14:33] <gescape> swb it does not :(
[14:33] <seishinbyou> the 32bit didn't like my system
[14:33] <AcornAcorn> Ace2016, I'm going to try lineak
[14:33] <thehurley> hello
[14:33] <Treeh416> odinsbane: "keeps saying no such device
[14:33] <gescape> scunizi, but that was so handy
[14:33] <Treeh416> odinsbane: in the GUI, I connected to the router...but pages aren't loading
[14:33] <gescape> scunizi, and I do not want to use the fspot
[14:33] <odinsbane> Treeh416 are you doing eth? or eth1 that is your wireless device
[14:33] <Pheonix> How can I install ubuntu as a windows program?
[14:33] <pim> hi
[14:33] <pim> Pheonix I don't think you can
[14:34] <Treeh416> "eth?"
[14:34] <odinsbane> Treeh416 ping your router.
[14:34] <pim> Maybe you could use a virtual machine
[14:34] <phantom1> ﻿Pheonix:Wubi is included in thew cd
[14:34] <gescape> swb it does not ask, it just mounts the camera mem :(
[14:34] <Rockj> [swb], now it works. I edited amarok to specify alsa as output and not autodetect. so now both amarok and audacious is playing music. trying with firefox now :)
[14:34] <boy_chn> does somebody have GAMBAS tutorial???
[14:34] <Treeh416> wait what?
[14:34] <Pheonix> It said so onhttp://www.ubuntustory.com/simplicity
[14:34] <Ace2016> AcornAcorn: what do you want to do with these buttons? and did you read the !keytouch
[14:34] <odinsbane> Treeh416 ifconfig | grep inet
[14:34] <wizo> anyone has a fujitsu laptop and has gotten their brightness keys to work?
[14:34] <devilash> odinsbane So what am I supposed to do with b43-fwcutter?
[14:34] <abramson> how can i put my other linux systems that r on my ext. hdd on my ubuntu boot
[14:34] <Pheonix> What is wubi?
[14:34] <thehurley> it's a shame the alternate install CD doesn't create seperate /tmp /home /usr partitions during the autoinstall with LVM.  does anyone have a good guide to do this during the install, or after the install?
[14:34] <phantom1> ﻿﻿Pheonix: A win instaler
[14:35] <wizo> wubi is an installer
[14:35] <magnetron> !wubi | Pheonix
[14:35] <Pheonix> Ok, I'll google it
[14:35] <aguitel> Pheonix: install ubuntu in windows is like masturbating side by side with woman
[14:35] <boy_chn> Pheonix:just boot the CD through windows OS
[14:35] <Treeh416> osbane:command not found
[14:35] <boy_chn> does somebody have GAMBAS tutorial???
[14:35] <knation> i can not find directories where gnome startup program settings are located
[14:35] <Pheonix> Thanks
[14:35] <Pheonix> I'll try it
[14:35] <knation> does anyone knows?
[14:35] <Rockj> [swb], im stuck with firefox, since flash plugin is not able to configure output device :(
[14:35] <gescape> most of things work much better in Ubuntu out of the box than in Fedora.. I only had a problem with Pidgin when importing settings and so on... and this camera issue... even may webcam works perfectly :)
[14:35] <boy_chn> Pheonix: Gud luck
[14:35] <abramson> can any 1 help:  how can i put my other linux systems that r on my ext. hdd on my ubuntu boot
[14:36] <Treeh416> odinsbane: Ugg why isn't it working XD?
[14:36] <Pheonix> Thank you!
[14:36] <odinsbane> Treeh416 type ifconfig
[14:36] <Rockj> Steve-cal, do you have any trick up your sleeve for fixing firefox and flash plugin too maybe? :)
[14:36] <scunizi> aguitel, he/she might be 10yrs old ... careful
[14:36] <Treeh416> command not found o.O
[14:36] <[swb]> Rockj, did you set also as output for all type of playback in the configurator thing?
[14:36] <odinsbane> Treeh416 then look for your ip address.
[14:36] <wizo> hey btw guys
[14:36] <AcornAcorn> !keytouch
[14:36] <wizo> i currently use grub
[14:36] <Treeh416> I entered in my ip manually
[14:36] <robg_> thehurley: If you install Ubuntu Alternate then it is smart to choose the LVM Encrypted option. You will need a live internet connection during the install.
[14:36] <Treeh416> in the GUI for networks..
[14:36] <odinsbane> Treeh416 ifconfig is not found!?
[14:36] <wizo> oh nvm
[14:36] <Steve-cal> Rockj: Which firefox/flashplayer versions?
[14:36] <Treeh416> odinsbane: Yep.
[14:37] <efu> what's the advantage of using the 64 bit hardy compared to the 32 bit? I'm considering installing 64 bit, as I've heard it's quite trouble free now
[14:37] <thehurley> robg_, i did that, but it only creates swap, /boot and /
[14:37] <scunizi> odinsbane, do you want ifconfig or iwconfig?
[14:37] <aguitel> scunizi: ok
[14:37] <Rockj> Steve-cal, firefox3 and nonfree flash version.
[14:37] <thehurley> robg_, everything goes into /
[14:37] <boy_chn> actually, whre is the location of installed program in ubuntu???
[14:37] <boy_chn> actually, where is the location of installed program in ubuntu???
[14:37] <odinsbane> Treeh416 that doesn't sound correct ifconfig is nescessary for internet.
[14:37] <AcornAcorn> Ace2016, it doesn't react to the buttons
[14:37] <thehurley> robg_, the debian installer for LVM auto creates /tmp /usr /home aswell
[14:38] <odinsbane> scunizi I mean ifconfig to get his ip address so he can ping his router.
[14:38] <gescape> swb, does it work on your sys?
[14:38] <boy_chn> actually, where is the location of installed program in ubuntu???
[14:38] <AcornAcorn> Ace2016, one of the buttons starts evolution, but with xev it doesn't give a key code
[14:38] <aguitel> scunizi: i do not support heard about windoze
[14:38] <robg_> thehurley: Alternate is a single boot OEM version. It takes the whole drive.
[14:38] <knation> Does anyone know: How can I set startup program up instead of Sessions whatever?
[14:38] <scunizi> boy_chn, depends on the program..
[14:38] <Rockj> [swb], and Steve-cal : forcing all output to alsa in system-preferences does the trick :-)
[14:38] <Treeh416> odinsbane: It says I'm connected to my router, and I have even bars indicating strength of the signal....why isn't it working?
[14:38] <Rockj> for everything :-)
[14:38] <odinsbane> Treeh416 when you type 'iwconfig' what device is your wireless.
[14:39] <Steve-cal> Rockj: Good, ALSA is what you should be using for everything. :)
[14:39] <odinsbane> ie eth1 or eth1 or even ath1
[14:39] <Ace2016> AcornAcorn: try  xbindkeys -mk
[14:39] <thehurley> robg_, yer I saw that, i'm looking for a guide to change that during the install, or to repartition the volumes after the install is complete
[14:39] <jake_> Hello all, could I have some help troubleshooting my NIC on wubi install of Ubuntu 8.04 please?
[14:39] <Treeh416> wlan 0
[14:39] <Rockj> Steve-cal, I thought it was used as default, because ievv been messing around with OSS before :P
[14:39] <[swb]> Rockj, glad to hear it :)
[14:39] <odinsbane> And does it say ESSID:"yourouter"
[14:39] <robg_> thehurley: forget it. Not possible. If you wish to edit paritions then opt for Desktop version.
[14:40] <[swb]> its fun to be able to fix other people problems
[14:40] <boy_chn> scunizi: for any of program
[14:40] <boy_chn> scunizi: for any of program usually installed in??
[14:40] <Rockj> finally I can view youtube links and such without having to kill applications to let them steal sound resource . hehe.
[14:40] <Steve-cal> Rockj: In theory, yes, in practice, maybe not. ;)
[14:40] <Treeh416> odinsbane: Wlan0: IEE 802.11b+/g+ and then a bunch of other stuff
[14:40] <Rockj> Steve-cal, :)
[14:40] <wizo> anyone knows how to remove grub and install the vista bootloader?
[14:40] <thehurley> robg_, its for a laptop i travell with alot, if the debian installer can do it, it can be done
[14:40] <icewaterman> ok, seems the bug was reported years ago already and there has been no fix. my time is better spent not reporting it
[14:40] <AcornAcorn> Ace2016, ok, says i need to make a file
[14:40] <thehurley> robg_, ill get it done somehow :)
[14:40] <roxahris> hey
[14:40] <odinsbane> devilash sorry try this link, it will explain how to clean up you setup for ndiswrapper. :: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[14:41]  * Rockj jumps back to documenting his code ..  
[14:41] <roxahris> what tells you what japanese means again?
[14:41] <Ace2016> make a file?
[14:41] <roxahris> was it .kasaki?
[14:41] <scunizi> thehurley, with a gparted live cd you could do some repartitioning.. best to back up /home though..
[14:41] <emma> icewaterman: what is the bug? I will report it for you.
[14:41] <roxahris> oh
[14:41] <roxahris> oops
[14:41] <odinsbane> Treeh416 then type this sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "your router"
[14:41] <roxahris> wrong channel
[14:41] <odinsbane> Treeh416 sudo dhclient wlan0
[14:41] <robg_> thehurley: Alternate encrypted creates a unique file system that cannot be edited.
[14:41] <Ace2016> AcornAcorn: you're supposed to run it, and then press buttons like "i" and "r" and the extra buttons you have
[14:41] <boy_chn> what is /opt used for????
[14:41] <[swb]> boy_chn, its used in other distros more
[14:42] <Treeh416> odinsbane: firstcommand did nothing, second gave me a list of numbers, ips,
[14:42] <[swb]> but I use it for general applicatino installs that dont conform to the deb/ubuntu standards of directory structure
[14:42] <odinsbane> Treeh416 when you run dhclient it will spit out a bunch of things and afterwards you should get an ip
[14:42] <Treeh416> odinsbane: IT WORKS
[14:42] <Treeh416> odinsbane: YAY :D
[14:42] <boy_chn> [swb]: what do you mean?? can you explain more???
[14:42] <gescape> swb, scunizi I found it. gThumb should do it, but mine for any reason does not ask if I want to import photos from the camera
[14:42] <Treeh416> odinsbane: thanks so much
[14:42] <jake_> Hello all, could I have some help troubleshooting my NIC on wubi install of Ubuntu 8.04 please?
[14:42] <robg_> Treeh416: congratulations
[14:43] <Treeh416> haha :D
[14:43] <scunizi> Treeh416, did you write down or can remember what odinsbane guidance was? that way when you reboot if you need to you can "self activate" :)
[14:43] <bzaks> Is there a way I can force my nvidia card to only output to one port? I don't wanna have to play in my Xorg.conf
[14:43] <[swb]> boy_chn, in ubuntu applications install themsevles every where, executable files go int /usr/bin or /bin configuration files in /etc application data in /usr/share I think and libraries in /usr/lib/
[14:43] <odinsbane> Treeh416 when you start the gui wireless manager you might have to sudo it.
[14:43] <[swb]> some applications however
[14:43] <Treeh416> scunizi: just did :d
[14:43] <[swb]> like azuresues, install ina more windows like manner, with everything to do with application in one directory
[14:43] <[swb]> like azureus
[14:44] <Treeh416> odinsbane: is installing VMware somewhat easy?
[14:44] <Treeh416> odinsbane: or an absolute horror?
[14:44] <bzaks> Treeh416: I know you weren't asking me... but using Automatix makes it super easy
[14:44]  * seishinbyou uses vmware...found virtualbox a lot easier to setup
[14:44] <Treeh416> scunizi: you may know more about VMWARE?
[14:44] <[swb]> so I like to put these in /opt/ so I know wher to find them and they dont mess up my directory structure
[14:44] <[swb]> boy_chn, does that make sense?
[14:44] <Treeh416>  bzaks: Ok, sure. Is automatix an installer of sorts?
[14:44] <Ziroday> !automatix | Treeh416
[14:45] <amenado> !info automatix
[14:45] <boy_chn> [swb]: I am still confused
[14:45] <bzaks> Treeh416: yeah, Automatix2, http://www.getautomatix.com
[14:45] <scunizi> Treeh416, VMWare is pretty easy to install.. on Gutsy it was painless. when I upgraded to Hardy there was an issue that I found a fix for.. nothing major though..
[14:45] <bzaks> oooh really?
[14:45] <boy_chn> [swb]: I am a newbie in linux
[14:45] <AcornAcorn> Ace2016, hmm, nothing comes up
[14:45] <robg_> Treeh416: your ambitions are running away with you again.
[14:45] <daedra> can i set keybindings to control mpc from framebuffer?
[14:45] <daedra> can i set keybindings to control mpc from framebuffer?
[14:45] <daedra> sorrt
[14:45] <Ace2016> nothing comes up for the extra buttons? or for all buttons?
[14:45] <FloodBot3> daedra: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:45] <bullgard4> [Gutsy>Hardy-Upgrade] In einer virtual console "~$ locale" returns a line "LANGUAGE=de_DE:de:en_GB:en" in addition to the output of the same command in a GNOME terminal. What does this variable and its value effect?
[14:45] <odinsbane> Treeh416 I haven't tried vmware yet
[14:46] <AcornAcorn> Ace2016, just the extra ones, normal ones are fine
[14:46] <Treeh416> robg_: Sorry :(
[14:46] <odinsbane> Treeh416 I just heard about it today, I might give it a shot.
[14:46] <[swb]> ok boy_chn
[14:46] <[swb]> mind if I private message you?
[14:46] <Ace2016> ah, so the extra ones aren't detected, you need to switch drivers
[14:46] <AcornAcorn> Ace2016, xev did something for some of the buttons
[14:46] <boy_chn> swb, no
[14:46] <robg_> Treeh416: that's OK. You have achieved much today. Celebrate.
[14:46] <Treeh416> bzaks: what exactly does automatix do
[14:46] <boy_chn> swb with my pleasure
[14:46] <Ace2016> AcornAcorn: put the output into a pastebin
[14:46] <Treeh416> scunizi: Is VMWare easy to install with automatix
[14:46] <AcornAcorn> Ace2016, how do i find the best driver to switch to?
[14:47] <Ace2016> !pastebin | AcornAcorn
[14:47] <scunizi> odinsbane, if you do download the vmware server from vmware.. don't use player.. player locks you into "appliances" ... server allows you to actually install a system
[14:47] <daedra> Treeh416: use VirtualBox
[14:47] <AcornAcorn> Ace2016, ok, i'll do the ones in xev again
[14:47] <Treeh416> robg_: Thanks a lot :D...I need Windows though...have to run a program called "Autograph" and MSword...(I know I could use Open Office...but I'm not sure the equation editorwillplay nice?)
[14:47] <bzaks> Treeh416: I guess we're not supposed to use Automatix anymore: so if you want to install it, just download it from http://www.vmware.com (get the server edition)
[14:47] <bzaks> and we'll walk you through it after taht
[14:47] <bzaks> that*
[14:47] <daedra> !virtualbox
[14:47] <scunizi> daedra, VB doesn't have usb support unless you paying ... right?
[14:47] <Treeh416> virutual box or vmware :S?
[14:47] <jake_> Hello all, could I have some help troubleshooting my NIC on wubi install of Ubuntu 8.04 please?
[14:48] <daedra> no usb support
[14:48] <daedra> ?
[14:48] <ari_stress> evening all
[14:48] <worg> hi, is there a way to open a session on a DVD or CDR in "sessionless UDF," where the burn session is not closed after you burn a file, and you can keep adding files to it?  Vista has such a thing and I wonder if Ubuntu does.
[14:48] <phantom1> HI I have a big problem MY LAST SHOWSTOPPER from getting fulltime UBUNTU YEYY. wan I'm in gnome logd in 3D graphics's andsome videoplayer constandly blink. Not the same in Enlightment Fluxbox but not planing to move to those.
[14:48] <odinsbane> Treeh416 look in winehq for word and autograph they might run flawlessly
[14:48] <Treeh416> Wait...why the server eddition of vmware?
[14:48] <Ziroday> ari_stress: evening
[14:48] <keyplute> Hello Everyone, I am pulling my hair out hoping that someone can help me with a 8.04 installer problem
[14:48] <Treeh416> odinsbane: Looked for word...equation editor is the only thing that doesn't work XD
[14:48] <worg> phantom1 try VLC
[14:48] <robg_> Treeh416: I advise against virtualisation until you can confidently manage your harddrive
[14:48] <scunizi> Treeh416, you'll need to read about the 2 ... virtual box I think that it doesn't have usb support unless you use non free version
[14:48] <devilash> odinsbane I got an error at getting ndiswrapper-1.51.tar.gz
[14:49] <daedra> np: Minus the Bear - Absinthe party at the fly honey warehouse - [Highly Refined Pirates - #3]
[14:49] <abramson> is there a way to
[14:49] <phantom1> ﻿worg:I dont whant it flickering anymor
[14:49] <worg> phantom1 did you run vlc
[14:49] <devilash> odinsbane 'Resolving superb-east.dl.sourceforge... failed: Name or service not known.
[14:49] <phantom1> y
[14:49] <worg> oh.
[14:49] <scunizi> Treeh416, server has usb support and you can install your own OS right into it.. no preconfigured "appliances" ..
[14:49] <Treeh416> robg_: I know..but I need this now...I will redo everything in  2 weeks
[14:49] <Treeh416> scunizi:ok, great...downloading onw...you may need to guide me through this:)
[14:50] <kaiden> Should one ever worry about the /boot partition having little to no space? nothing is ever needed to be created by the bootstrap there correct?
[14:50] <scunizi> Treeh416, it's also the only way to install windows with VMware.. by using the server version
[14:50] <phantom1> ﻿worg:The problem is with games and Miro in gnome
[14:50] <abramson>  is there a way to add items that boot from my external hdd to my ubuntu grub bootlist?
[14:50] <seishinbyou> or the Workstation version
[14:50] <worg> phantom does it happen when not in enhanced graphics
[14:50] <axisys_> !netinstall
[14:50] <Treeh416> sunizi: Ok...which version should I download? .tar.giz...zip?
[14:50] <scunizi> seishinbyou, but is workstation  free?
[14:50] <phantom1> ﻿worg: And some other windows that have 3D contenth
[14:50] <scunizi> Treeh416, tar
[14:50] <seishinbyou> scunizi: No, but I have a license for it
[14:50] <odinsbane> devilashd do you want to go throught that tutorial?
[14:50] <boy_chn> [swb]: I have already sent message to you
[14:51] <worg> phantom1 did it happen when not in enhanced graphics?
[14:51] <odinsbane> devilash or do you want to use the fwcutter?
[14:51] <scunizi> Treeh416, don't forget the link at the top  of the page to get a "key" code.
[14:51] <Treeh416> scunizi: I saw
[14:51] <worg> phantom1 that sounds like a video driver issue, what video card do you have?  do you have current drivers?
[14:51] <phantom1> ﻿worg: ﻿enhanced graphics Where is that ? I have Ati driver
[14:51] <[swb]> boy_chn, I think you have failed somehow, I sent several to you and youhave not replied
[14:51] <mib_hgjhunr7> hey guys i need help, i'm new to linux
[14:51] <devilash> odinsbane I've found a way around that part, the ndiswrapper's fine for now thanks :)
[14:51] <abramson> can any1 help me?
[14:51] <axisys_> !automate
[14:51] <mib_hgjhunr7> i'm trying to dual boot with vista but i don't know how to set it up for grub
[14:51] <boy_chn> I have received the msg from you
[14:52] <[swb]> what irc client are you using?
[14:52] <amenado> perhaps people also should start looking into OpenVZ and Xen for virtualization..am trying to tacke it myself for now
[14:52] <boy_chn> and i have sent msg for you
[14:52] <AcornAcorn> Ace2016, the few that react just come up all the same http://paste.ubuntu.com/14332/
[14:52] <axisys_> !cloning
[14:52] <boy_chn> x-chat
[14:52] <mib_hgjhunr7> wh?
[14:52] <mib_hgjhunr7> who?
[14:52] <worg> phantom1 try going to "normal" or "none" under System -> Preferences > Visual Effects
[14:52] <jake_> Hello, could I get some help with my NIC?
[14:52] <boy_chn> for linux
[14:52] <phantom1> ﻿worg: Some days ago there was released a newer wersion
[14:52] <mib_hgjhunr7> hold on let me switch usernames
[14:52] <abramson> can sum1 help me: is there a way to add items that boot from my external hdd to my ubuntu grub bootlist?
[14:52] <worg> do you have the new version
[14:52] <Lord_Devi> Hello. I am trying to set up LVM2 for the first time. Reading pages on the subject found via google, I have learnt that LVM apparently has a limit of 65k physical extents. My question is, does LVM2 have this same limitation?
[14:52] <worg> phantom1 ATI seems to be trying to do better but their linux support has sucked rocks for 10 years
[14:52] <devilash> odinsbane Wait, another error. 'sudo echo blacklist bcm43xx >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist'     'bash: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist: permission denied
[14:53] <Treeh416> Woah...fast server....already finished downloading it....
[14:53] <worg> phantom1 all I know is, I will never buy ATI, and nvidia seems to work OK usually.
[14:53] <abramson> can any1 help me?
[14:53] <odinsbane> devilash just type su
[14:53] <worg> does anyone know if you can open DVD burning in sessionless mode
[14:53] <devilash> OKAY
[14:53] <Treeh416> sunizi: Ok, finished downloading it...how do I install? Through terminal?
[14:53] <worg> so you can keep on adding files to a disk until it's full
[14:53] <devilash> okay*
[14:54] <boy_chn> [swb]:  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[14:54] <boy_chn> [swb]: what does it mean???
[14:54] <odinsbane> devilash then just type echo blacklist >>/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[14:54] <phantom1> ﻿worg:My wersion warks perfect in enlightment with WOW but Gnome is having the hickup
[14:54] <Flynsarmy> uname -a returns "Linux TehLappy 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux". Does that mean i'm on 64-bit ubuntu?
[14:55] <odinsbane> devilash the sudo doesn't carry over, not after you do that command exit the su
[14:55] <abramson> can any1 help me: is there a way to add items that boot from my external hdd to my ubuntu grub bootlist?
[14:55] <robg_> abramson: I do not think you can activate interaction between two disks at a hardware level.
[14:55] <scunizi> Treeh416, you getting the standard or the  beta?
[14:55] <magnetron> Flynsarmy: no.
[14:55] <odinsbane> s/not/note
[14:55] <Treeh416> sunizi: Standard
[14:55] <worg> phantom1 right, try turning off 3d gfx in gnome.
[14:55] <[swb]> boy_chn, it means you need to register your nick on this server
[14:55] <rhb> hi, is there a guide to troubleshoot sound problems? my sound on hardy seems to have totally gotten screwed (thanks to me no doubt), but I'm not sure where to start looking as to how to fix it
[14:55] <P4bl0> 'alve
[14:55] <[swb]> network rather
[14:55] <Treeh416> sunizi: is the beta preferable?
[14:55] <boy_chn> [swb]: how can I do that??
[14:55] <Ziroday> !sound > rhb (see PM from ubottu)
[14:55] <phantom1> ﻿Visual Effects= Apearence?
[14:55] <P4bl0> come si fa x vedere la propria struttura disco tipo lettere, hda1 ecc??
[14:55] <phantom1> ﻿worg:﻿﻿Visual Effects= Apearence?
[14:55] <[swb]> do /msg nickserv help register
[14:56] <magnetron> rhb: please tell the channel in what way your sound doesn't work.
[14:56] <worg> phantom1 what is happening is basically that the 3d app and the 3d Compiz layer are fighting for the window, the ATI driver has a problem with it for some reason still
[14:56] <IcyPolecat> anybody know if it is possible to serve files over usb using ubuntu server?
[14:56] <scunizi> Treeh416, might have the fix built in for hardy.. by the way the easy way to type a nick is the first few characters then hit tab.. if it's misspelled It won't highlight
[14:56] <worg> phantom1 yes, then advanced effects
[14:56] <magnetron> !it > P4bl0   (read ubottu message)
[14:56] <worg> phantom1 try it with "none"
[14:56] <boy_chn> MSG [swb] hallo
[14:56] <abramson> robg_: i did with my openSuse boot menu, but thatw as on my ext. hdd, thats y i got rid of it, the list can read both, i just dunno how to get it 2
[14:57] <phantom1> ﻿worg:  Thanks thats it
[14:57] <robg_> abramson: it may be possible but you a pioneering on the verge of possibilities.
[14:57] <phantom1> ﻿worg: But I stil neade Compiz
[14:57] <P4bl0> che msg devo leggere?
[14:57] <rhb> magnetron, i was trying to get wine to play nice with pulseaudio, now i'll go read up on the resources Ziroday pointed me to, and see if I can get some proper information as to what I screwed up :)
[14:57] <scunizi> Treeh416, I'm downloading the beta right now too.
[14:58] <AcornAcorn> Ace2016, the keyboard is a HP KU-0133 Easy Access Interner Keyboard
[14:58] <Treeh416> scunizi, ok, thanks for the tip.Downloading nw
[14:58] <boy_chn> [swb]: yes, i can see your message
[14:58] <abramson> robg_:sum other guy was helping me last nite with it, but i had 2 go
[14:58] <[swb]> can you reply yet?
[14:58] <AcornAcorn> Ace2016, *internet
[14:58] <P4bl0> sry i thought i was in ubuntu-it channel...
[14:58] <P4bl0> thx bye
[14:58] <phantom1> ﻿worg: is there a fix in compizsettings?
[14:58] <Ienorand> Question: If buying a new laptop should one go for ATI or NVIDIA for graphics, I know ATI:s been the bad boy for a while but how is the future looking in that respect?
[14:59] <bullgard4> [Gutsy>Hardy-Upgrade] In einer virtual console "~$ locale" returns a line "LANGUAGE=de_DE:de:en_GB:en" in addition to the output of the same command in a GNOME terminal. What does this variable and its value effect?
[14:59] <robg_> abramson: sometimes things may be technically possible but also not practicle.
[14:59] <[swb]> boy_chn, /join #ubuntu-ot
[15:00] <knatio1> I have a question: Where is the gnome startup setting file?
[15:00] <ramblex> How do I change the default text editor in hardy heron?
[15:00] <abramson> robg_: so is ther a way i can boot into my opensuse wich is on my ext. hdd?
[15:01] <Treeh416> scunizi, woah..450mb..quite a bit bigger than the other version
[15:01] <devilash> odinsbane I've got no idea what my driver directory is
[15:01] <robg_> abramson: all machines are different. If you can force your machine to boot from thet drive then it is possible otherwise it is not.
[15:01] <scunizi> Treeh416, while you're waiting do a sudo apt-get install build-essential  ... you'll need it to install
[15:01] <Treeh416> scunizi, Ok
[15:02] <odinsbane> devilash what step are you on?
[15:02] <abramson> tried, couldnt boot from hdd
[15:02] <Treeh416> scunizi,  done :)
[15:02] <devilash> odinsbane 4
[15:03] <odinsbane> devilash it is the directory where you just unzipped the .exe file.
[15:03] <Sonderblade> is there an apt or dpkg command to get a description of a package?
[15:03] <robg_> abramson: consider another organisation of your system. In time you will have to re-install anyway.
[15:03] <devilash> Right
[15:03] <abramson> robg_: wat u mean by that?
[15:04] <devilash> odinsbane and what folder would that be?
[15:04] <devilash> odinsbane I just did 'unzip -a R151517.exe'
[15:04] <Ziroday> Sonderblade: you will get a short description with apt-cache search <package>
[15:04] <miamimike> mikemiami
[15:04] <miamimike> Hi
[15:04] <odinsbane> you did unzip ????.exe ?
[15:04] <abramson> odinsbane: you can, that's windows only
[15:05] <robg_> abramson: people re-install their systems several times per year for all sorts of reasons. Plan for future re-installs and for future failures.
[15:05] <scunizi> Treeh416, with build-essential or the  download?
[15:05] <Sonderblade> Ziroday: yeah.. but not exactly what i want
[15:05] <odinsbane> devilash type ls
[15:05] <Treeh416> scunizi, build-essential...but just finished download
[15:05] <Treeh416> scunizi, should I extract the files?
[15:06] <Ziroday> Sonderblade: sorry am slow tonight, apt-cache show <packagename>
[15:06] <scunizi> Treeh416, yes
[15:06] <devilash> odinsbane I can see the R151517.exe, but I can't see any folder that I could've extracted it to.
[15:06] <odinsbane> devilash it should have extracted the files to that folder.
[15:06] <devilash> Okay
[15:06] <Sonderblade> Ziroday: thanks
[15:06] <Treeh416> scunizi, done...click the installer- right?
[15:06] <odinsbane> devilash so do this. mkdir temp, cp R????.exe temp
[15:07] <scunizi> Treeh416, my download should be done in a couple of minutes.. I just started it.. wait and we'll install together.. I've never installed the beta.
[15:07] <AcornAcorn> how do you see what packages you've installed starting with the most recent ones?
[15:07] <Ziroday> Sonderblade: no problem
[15:07] <Treeh416> scunizi, Ok, great =]
[15:07] <odinsbane> devilash then go to the tmp directory and type unzip -a R??.exe
[15:07] <odinsbane> devilash When I did that it made a directory called DRIVER
[15:08] <devilash> odinsbane Done :)
[15:08] <U-Gutsy-Gibbon> hello room, i want to fresh install 7.10 and how will i backup all the packages and downloads ive installed so that when i finish setup i will restore them without internet connection
[15:08] <rhb> ok, I really don't know how I've screwed my sound, nor how to fix it .. all I know is that it's somehow related to libasound and/or pulseaudio :/
[15:09] <scunizi> Treeh416, 1/2 way there.. clipping along at 900+ KB/sec
[15:09] <jrib> rhb: this just happened to me.  Maybe you are having the same issue: double click on the spearker icon and make sure PCM's volume is not zero
[15:09] <AcornAcorn> how do you see what packages you've installed starting with the most recent ones?
[15:09] <Chapai> U-Gutsy-Gibbon, apton cd allows you to backup your apps on cd and install from there
[15:09] <robg_> U-Gutsy-Gibbon: Why not upgrade to Ubuntu 8.04 ?
[15:10] <U-Gutsy-Gibbon> robg_, i'm a starter so i think i'll learn from 7.10 first before upgrading
[15:10] <Chapai> depends on what you used to install packageds, if you use aptitude check /var/log/aptitude AcornAcorn there is hisotry in synaptics
[15:10] <Treeh416> scunizi, awesome :D
[15:10] <robg_> U-Gutsy-Gibbon: nonsense get the best stuff.
[15:11] <rhb> jrib, already checked - that's not it unfortunately. anything that tries to play sound either "hangs" (doesn't play, but doesn't do much else), or crashes..
[15:11] <U-Gutsy-Gibbon> hehe
[15:11] <jrib> !sound > rhb (read the private message from ubottu)
[15:11] <odinsbane> devilash, is this wireless card an external card?
[15:11] <Xorothal> how can i allow non-root users to listen on port 80?
[15:11] <rhb> jrib, already checked as much as I can. unfortunately that documentation is mostly for soundcard problems or ALSA, not pulse
[15:12] <U-Gutsy-Gibbon> Chapai, aptonCD list them, but it doesnt list additional applications like screem editor or xchatetc.
[15:12] <rhb> I know the card is working, because I've had working sound since feisty until now, when I started screwing with things myself (bad mistake)
[15:12] <AcornAcorn> Chapai, the history doesn't really show much
[15:12] <jrib> rhb: you might want to describe exactly what you did
[15:12] <robg_> U-Gutsy-Gibbon: advise install ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso in LVM encrypted mode.
[15:12] <odinsbane> rhb are you using alsa?
[15:12] <devilash> odinsbane no, it's intergrated
[15:12] <AcornAcorn> Chapai, I'm mainly worried about things i installed with apt-get
[15:12] <wikzo> I got some problems about deleting a folder with sudo in command line. I type "sudo rmdir [folder]", but then it tells me that the folder isn't empty. How do I delete it?
[15:12] <rhb> odinsbane, no, hardy - so pulseaudio
[15:12] <jrib> wikzo: rm -r
[15:12] <Chapai> did you check /var/log/aptitude
[15:12] <jrib> !cli > wikzo (read the private message from ubottu)
[15:13] <U-Gutsy-Gibbon> Chapai, me ?
[15:13] <rhb> jrib, well, it's a bit complex, as this saga has now been ongoing for a few hours, but.. i was trying to get sound working under wine, which involved installing a few packages outside the repo related to asound, which I think caused the mess I'm currently in. I tried to --purge and reinstall everything related to pulse and asound, but that also hasn't helped..
[15:13] <Chapai> not you U-Gutsy-Gibbon
[15:13] <wikzo> jrib: Thank you
[15:14] <rhb> jrib, in short, I was an idiot :)
[15:14] <devilash> odinsbane I've hit another error. I'm supposed to do 'sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmw15.inf' but it can't open the file because no such file exists.
[15:14] <Treeh416> scunizi, In the mean time..can you explain what the whole "sudo" thing means?
[15:14] <odinsbane> devilash did you change to the DRIVER directory?
[15:14] <Xorothal> how can i allow non-root users to listen on port 80?
[15:15] <odinsbane> devilash the bcml5.inf was included in the R??.exe file.
[15:15] <devilash> odinsbane Yeah, I'm in ~/temp$
[15:15] <devilash> I believe so.
[15:15] <Xorothal> >>> how can i allow non-root users to listen on port 80?
[15:15] <stu>  I attempted to re-install alsa from source as my sound wasn't working very well... now I have no sound, can anyone help me out? the output of alsamixer is alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[15:15] <odinsbane> devilash so change to ~/temp/DRIVER
[15:15] <MrBashir> anyone know of a channel dedicated for Axigen mail server?
[15:15] <scunizi> Treeh416, sudo is protection. It's kinda liike all the pop up in vista .. sudo gives you administrative root privlidges to install, change the system etc..
[15:15] <stu> asoundconf list shows no output
[15:15] <devilash> odinsbane okay
[15:15] <Chapai> Xorothal, isn't port 80 opened by default for http
[15:15] <odinsbane> stu try sudo alsa
[15:16] <Jav13r_> how can i test my terminal bell?
[15:16] <devilash> still can't do it.
[15:16] <odinsbane> stu I think the whole command is sudo alsa restart
[15:16] <devilash> odinsbane Still can't do it.
[15:16] <odinsbane> devilash type ls
[15:16] <Treeh416> scunizi, Aha....in a much less annoying way XD
[15:16] <Xorothal> Chapai, but virtualbox seems not to like binding to it unless running as root
[15:16] <rhb> jrib, I get this (http://rafb.net/p/8v5IQG10.html) when trying to play a file through audacious.
[15:16] <odinsbane> devil ash you should see the .inf file.
[15:16] <AcornAcorn> Chapai, I'm trying to work out how to browse folders
[15:17] <stu> alsa reload and asoundconf list still show no output
[15:17] <devilash> odinsbane 'bcm43xx64.cat bcm43xx.cat bcmwl564.sys bcmwl5.inf bcmwl5.sys'
[15:17] <Chapai> huh? what do you mean AcornAcorn
[15:17] <AcornAcorn> Chapai, there must be an easy way of cleaning up packages that you installed but don't really need
[15:17] <scunizi> Treeh416, yes.. you ready to start?  go to a terminal and type cd Desktop to get into your desktop directory (that's where you uncompressed the prog right?)
[15:17] <jrib> rhb: no idea, don't know enough about it
[15:17] <AcornAcorn> Chapai, can't work out how to get into file browser
[15:17] <Treeh416> scunizi,  ok
[15:17] <Treeh416> scunizi,  yes
[15:18] <Chapai> what version of ubuntu are you using
[15:18] <devilash> odinsbane Should I try doing ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf instead?
[15:18] <Chapai> what version of ubuntu are you using AcornAcorn
[15:18] <MrBashir> !Axigen
[15:18] <AcornAcorn> Chapai, newest
[15:18] <Treeh416> scunizi, Ok, got it..now it'sin the desktop directory
[15:18] <Chapai> do you have nautilus running? AcornAcorn
[15:18] <AcornAcorn> Chapai, i don't have the "places" thing on my bar anymore
[15:18] <AcornAcorn> Chapai, not sure what that is, i'll google it
[15:19] <odinsbane> devilash I think so
[15:19] <scunizi> now you have to manover to the vmware directory.. type ls to list everything on your desktop then ls <directoryname> that's "LS" lowercase
[15:19] <Chapai> its the file browser, open terminal and type nautilus AcornAcorn
[15:19] <AcornAcorn> Chapai, is there a key shortcut for terminal?
[15:20] <devilash> odinsbane 'couldnt create /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5: permission denied at /usr/sbin/ndiswrap per line 194
[15:20] <Chapai> no, alt-f2 and enter nautilus then AcornAcorn
[15:20] <scunizi> Treeh416, type cd vmware-server-distrib
[15:21] <Treeh416> scunizi, yep
[15:21] <odinsbane> devilash did you do sudo before the command?
[15:21] <scunizi> Treeh416, no type sudo sh vmware-install.pl
[15:21] <devilash> odinsbane nope, I will now.
[15:22] <devilash> Done!
[15:22] <Treeh416> scunizi,  it said it wasn't found :S
[15:22] <MrBashir> Where would I be able to find an IRC channel for Axigen?
[15:22] <scunizi> Treeh416, oops .. sorry .. now type sudo ./vmware-install.pl
[15:22] <AcornAcorn> Chapai, I don't have permission to open the file
[15:22] <Treeh416> scunizi,  ah,ok
[15:23] <Treeh416> scunizi, Ah...I think I downloaded the wrong version >.> askedfor x86_64 version...
[15:23] <scunizi> Treeh416, accept all defaults but stop if you come to a questin about networking
[15:23] <scunizi> Treeh416, you downloaded the 64 bit version?
[15:23] <Chapai> are you the default user AcornAcorn ? do you have application places system? if not right click add to panel (application menu bar)
[15:23] <Treeh416> scunizi,  I don't think I did...woops xD
[15:23] <Treeh416> scunizi,  Sorry!
[15:23] <scunizi> Treeh416, download again.
[15:24] <legend2440> Jav13r_: in terminal type echo -e '\a'
[15:24] <Chapai> is there a channel for aircrack-ng/aireplay-ng pernetration test
[15:24] <devilash> Ahhhh.
[15:24] <Jav13r_> legend2440:  seems its not working
[15:24] <odinsbane> devilash is that relief or frustration.
[15:24] <devilash> odinsbane I've followed the tut, yet I still get the whole 'interface doesn't support scanning' and the like.
[15:24] <devilash> Thats frustration :P
[15:24] <AcornAcorn> Chapai, what should i add to the panel?
[15:25] <Treeh416> scunizi,  Ok downloading...going to take 4 minutes
[15:25] <odinsbane> devilash what do you get if you type iwconfig
[15:25] <Treeh416> scunizi,  Sorry about that!
[15:25] <scunizi> Treeh416, np
[15:25] <Chapai> application menu bar AcornAcorn
[15:25] <AcornAcorn> i can't find it
[15:25] <MrBashir> Who uses Axigen mail server?
[15:25] <devilash> odinsbane lo no wireless extensions. and eth0 no wireless extensions.
[15:25]  * MrBashir does
[15:25] <Chapai> sorry menu bar AcornAcorn
[15:26] <devilash> odinsbane and my actual Broadcom driver still isn't listed in the Hardware driver list
[15:26] <AcornAcorn> Chapai, ah found it, it's called "run application"
[15:26] <Treeh416> scunizi, you know those new themes for Ubuntu that look really good?
[15:26] <Treeh416> scunizi,  Are they easy to install?
[15:26] <saxofoner> hi everyone, I successfully installed vmware server, and then xp inside of vmware server, but now when I run "install vmware tools" nothing happens, the virt. cd never mounts.
[15:26] <Broadcom> devilash: i have a link for you, hold on
[15:26] <devilash> broadcom thanks.
[15:27] <Chapai> AcornAcorn, how new are you to ubuntu?
[15:27] <legend2440> Jav13r_: right click speaker on top panel>Open Volume Control see if pc speaker is listed with slider and make sure its not muted
[15:27] <AcornAcorn> Chapai, very
[15:27] <odinsbane> devilash what happened when you did the sudo ndiswrapper -l
[15:27] <Broadcom> devilash: undo everything you have done before and do this. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[15:27] <devilash> odinsbane it said 'bcmwl5: driver installed'
[15:28] <scunizi> Treeh416, I haven't looked at them.. install is usually pretty easy.. sometimes they will conflict with compiz
[15:28] <Chapai> ok, AcornAcorn do you have application, places, system on your panel which should be there by default unless you removed it
[15:28] <devilash> broadcom I'm a bit of a noobie when it comes to linux, how do I undo everything I've done?
[15:28] <AcornAcorn> Chapai, yeah, just put it on the bar
[15:28] <Broadcom> devilash: it depends, what have you done?
[15:28] <Treeh416> scunizi,  Ok..if I have problems I'll come back here :P
[15:28] <Treeh416> scunizi,  I'll get vmware installedfirst though :P
[15:28] <Treeh416> scunizi, It's almostdone...30 seconds left
[15:28] <devilash> broadcom this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[15:28] <Chapai> so can you now browse folders AcornAcorn
[15:29] <AcornAcorn> i didn't have permission to open the log file
[15:29] <odinsbane> did you do the modprobe and put the ndiswrapper in you /etc/modules file?
[15:29] <devilash> odinsbane I believe so.
[15:30] <odinsbane> devilash type more /etc/modules | grep ndis
[15:30] <AcornAcorn> Chapai, i didn't have permission to open the log file
[15:30] <Treeh416> Ok
[15:30] <Broadcom> devilash: this is all you did?
[15:31] <Treeh416> scunizi, it's done and extracted
[15:31] <Treeh416> scunizi, in termal how do I return to the desktop directory?
[15:31] <scunizi> Treeh416, cool.. unpack .. manover to the directory
[15:31] <scunizi> yes
[15:31] <Broadcom> devilash: sudo rmmod ndiswrapper; sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5; sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils
[15:31] <dang_> hi all
[15:31] <devilash> BROADCOM Yeah, I did the whole tut
[15:31] <devilash> odinsbane right
[15:31] <Jav13r_> how can i make my terminal bell working? its making no sound right now
[15:31] <Treeh416> scunizi, nvm
[15:32] <devilash> odins bane I got 'nidswrapper ndiswrapper ndiswrapper' in the list
[15:32] <scunizi> Treeh416, nvm?  what's that
[15:32] <odinsbane> devilash you might need to edit the blacklist file and edit the /etc/modules to remove the two lines you have added to those.
[15:32] <devilash> odinsbane and how does I do that? o.O
[15:32] <VousDeux> hello: I'm having an issue with Ubuntu that I don't seem to be having much luck finding help with...when I login, I get an error stating that there was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon
[15:32] <Treeh416> scunizi, It means nevermind. Ok, It's asking me where to install the binary files
[15:32] <legend2440> Jav13r_: did you check in volume control if pc speaker was enabled?
[15:32] <VousDeux> I cannot seem to find anything more about it in any of the logs
[15:32] <odinsbane> devilash doe what broadcom says first then type sudo pico /etc/modules
[15:32] <Jav13r_> legend2440: i play mp3's just fine
[15:33] <saxofoner> never mind, I fixed my vm tools
[15:33] <Broadcom> odinsbane: im trying to get him setup via a link i know works on all braodcoms, what are you trying to do?
[15:33] <Chapai> AcornAcorn, open terminal and type gedit /var/log/aptitude if still no permission use gksudo gedit /var/log/aptitude i am not sure how come you dont have access
[15:33] <Kevin`> kevin@win:~$ glxgears
[15:33] <Kevin`> Aborted
[15:33] <Kevin`> kevin@win:~$
[15:33] <legend2440> Jav13r_: not through the pc speaker. the little speaker inside the computer case is what beeps not your stereo speakers
[15:33] <Kevin`> what cause this can?
[15:33] <scunizi> Treeh416, ah.. you got it going already.. nice.. at some point it will ask about what directories will have the vm files.. as in the installed virtual machine.. I change it to /home/<user_name>/vmware
[15:34] <cylux> Hey guys, I have hardy heron on my box and I have a problem that basically after a few hours of running, my system almost freezes. The apps I have running are mostly unresponsive and I can't open any new new ones. If I even try pkill at the command line, it hands. The only remedy is a reboot. Anyone else having this problem?
[15:34] <odinsbane> Broadcom I was telling him how to remove what he had just did.
[15:34] <Jav13r_> legend2440: im running ubuntu under vmware. how could i check that speaker in this case?
[15:34] <Broadcom> odinsbane: ok, thanks
[15:34] <Treeh416> scunizi, Ok I wrote /home/rob/vmware and it said that it doesnt exist currently and that it will create it
[15:34] <Treeh416> scunizi,  that's ok, right?
[15:34] <VousDeux> after I close the warning, everything seems to be working, except for the wheel on my mouse, but eventually if I leave the computer unattended it will freeze
[15:34] <odinsbane> Broadcom the tutorial has you manually edit the /etc/modules and add ndis... stuff
[15:34] <devilash> odinsbane broadcom 'sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils' 'ndiswrapper-utils is not installed, so not removed'
[15:34] <legend2440> Jav13r_: sorry no idea about vmware
[15:34] <scunizi> Treeh416, yes
[15:35] <robg_> cylux: if the OS cannot be repaired then you will have to re-install. Takes 1 to 2 hours.
[15:35] <Broadcom> devilash: that is fine
[15:35] <Broadcom> devilash: do what odinsbane told you to do now
[15:35] <Treeh416> scunizi, "What is the directory that contains the init directory (rc0.d/ to rc6.d/)? [/etc]
[15:35] <cylux> robg_: This is not an isolated problem, I've installed heron on one other desktop and a lap-top and they all suffer from similar symptoms.
[15:35] <VousDeux> everything was working fine in Feisty, but I upgraded to Gutsy and started seeing problems...I upgraded to Hardy thinking it might help, but it didn't
[15:35] <Kevin`> anyone?
[15:35] <scunizi> Treeh416, /etc
[15:35] <scunizi> Treeh416, just hit enter
[15:36] <devilash> Right... odinsbane so what do I do now?
[15:36] <robg_> cylux: i have installed many Ubuntus and never had a problem.
[15:36] <cylux> robg_: Yes but this is hardy heron.
[15:36] <Wires> hey
[15:36] <Wires> what's a good app that'll show fan speeds, etc. that works with ubunu?
[15:36] <Broadcom> cylux: i have installed many hh's and never had a prob
[15:36] <odinsbane> devilash go down to the very bottom line (don't change anything along the way
[15:36] <magnetron> Wires: lmsensors
[15:36] <timr92> i'm having trouble using pureftpd with mysql authentication, i'm getting "access denied for user'pureftpd'@'localhost' (using password: YES)" when i try to log in to the ftp service from another computer, any1 got any ideas??
[15:36] <Wires> ty
[15:37] <odinsbane> devilash and delete the line that says ndiswrapper ndiswrapper ndiswrapper.
[15:37] <Treeh416> scunizi, I keep hitting enter until it asked me about the path
[15:37] <robg_> cylux: I am currently running Ubuntu  8.04 Alternate in LVM Encrypted mode. The best produkt on the market today.
[15:37] <Treeh416> scunizi, "home/rob/lib/vmare"doesn'texist
[15:37] <Treeh416> scunizi,  I typed enter, it didn't do anything and then I typed yes and it doidn'tdo anything
[15:37] <devilash> odinsbane wait
[15:37] <Treeh416> scunizi,  Oh wait, nevermind
[15:37] <devilash> odinsbane Go to the bottom of what?
[15:37] <scunizi> Treeh416,
[15:37] <timr92> any help
[15:37] <timr92> ??
[15:38] <cylux> robg_: Clearly your knowledge of ubuntu is very limited, this is not an isolated problem, a lot of people on the Forums are reporting it.
[15:38] <Simonft> sorry about that, i am back
[15:38] <timr92> pureftpd cant connect to mysql, and i think i have configured it correctly
[15:38] <odinsbane> devilash in the tutorial when you  do echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules that just puts the text ndiswrapper at the last line of the textfile modules
[15:38] <robg_> cylux: there may be hardware that causes problems. That problem exists with Windows too.
[15:38] <Treeh416> scunizi, I got to the networking part
[15:39] <cylux> robg_: Nope
[15:39] <odinsbane> devilash so you should remove that line.  maybe the easiest would be to type, sudo gedit /etc/modules
[15:39] <Treeh416> scunizi,  "Do you want networking for your virtualmachines"
[15:39] <phantom1> Ok can anybody help me When I turn Visual Effevts of the flickering of my 3D and Video containing windows stops. But I neade Compiz to is there a newer deb than those that come with Hardy?
[15:39] <robg_> cylux: come on the news is full of reports of Vista SP1 upgrades that fail.
[15:39] <timr92> any1 got any ideas; my pureftpd cant connect to mysql, yet i thought i configured it correctly
[15:39] <DannyV> hi there
[15:39] <rkn> irc://irc.abjects.net/
[15:39] <scunizi> Treeh416, just spilled a little coffee in my keyboard.. yes networking
[15:40] <Simonft1> its braodcom, sorry about that
[15:40] <Simonft1> cylux: just read your problem and i have been having the same thing. the problem is with firefox, downgrade to 2 and it fixes it
[15:40] <Treeh416> scunizi,  Ouch, I hope it still works!
[15:40] <DannyV> what's the name of the small CD image which i can download rather than the 600meg one, to install ubuntu off the deks?
[15:40] <DannyV> s/deks/internet
[15:40] <eyyYo> I must have made change some wierd setting because when i do CTRL+F (Find for most applications) i get an terminal opened. It doesnt look like the normal terminal, it looks "old". It doesnt matter if i have an application selected. Does anyone know why this is happening?
[15:40] <Simonft1> !install | DannyV
[15:40] <Simonft1> !minimal | DannyV
[15:41] <scunizi> Treeh416, brand new dell vostro.. suppose to be protected from dumb moves like that.
[15:41] <robg_> DannyV: the Ubuntu desktops have image files of up to 700 Mb.
[15:41] <issa> Hey people, is it possible to remove data from a CD+RW using k3b?
[15:41] <Wires> how do I cd into my desktop?
[15:41] <DannyV> ahah
[15:41] <DannyV> minimal
[15:41] <Wires> its not letting me with the cd desktop command
[15:41] <Simonft1> Wire: cd home
[15:41] <Treeh416> scunizi, Oh it's a laptop! It should be ok...hopefully
[15:41] <Kevin`> Wires: Desktop is capitalized
 cd /home/username/Desktop
[15:41] <Wires> ah argh I always forget that, thansk
[15:42] <Simonft1> !tab > issa
[15:42] <Kevin`> someone help me get 3d working please?
[15:42] <Simonft1> !anyone | Kevin'
[15:42] <Ahadiel> Wires, Also, ~ can replace /home/username, so ~/Desktop would refer to the current user's desktop.
[15:42] <DannyV> what's the name of the latest ubuntu version?
[15:42] <Wires> ok
[15:42] <Kevin`> kevin@win:~$ glxgears
[15:42] <Kevin`> Aborted
[15:42] <Kevin`> kevin@win:~$
[15:42] <scunizi> Treeh416, ok.. I'm at the end and it's complaining about not being able to locate inetd or xinetd..
[15:42] <DannyV> this site only lists them by name, not version numer
[15:42] <DannyV>  number and i've forgotten
[15:42] <Danie2> If I don't have internet how to install video driver ?
[15:42] <Wires> where should I install something at?
[15:42] <Kevin`> glxinfo shows DRI as supposidly enabled
[15:42] <Wires> what directory
 What is that?  I didn't get you
[15:42] <student1> looking for help burning audio cd ... burning avi files to dvd works fine ... message in brasero is : wodim could not write lead in ... k3b and graveman also dont work for cd-r's
[15:42] <Treeh416> scunizi, I'm entering my serial number
[15:43] <Ahadiel> Wires, Source or a deb?
[15:43] <Wires> source
[15:43] <robg_> DannyV: Ubuntu 8.04 comes in two versions. Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Alternate.
[15:43] <Treeh416> scunizi, It said it was succesful
[15:43] <Simonft1> issa: read the private messge from ubuttu
[15:43] <scunizi> Treeh416, did you see the complaint about the missing stuff just before the end?
[15:43] <Treeh416> scunizi, Nope
[15:43] <DannyV> ahh, what i meant was hardy heron or feisty fawn.. :P
 I didn't get any private message from ubottu
[15:43] <Ahadiel> Wires, It doesn't matter where you put the initial source as when you build it it'll install to the correct place.
[15:43] <DannyV> but i found one wher eit said the version numbers
[15:43] <Wires> ah ok
[15:43] <Simonft1> !tab > issa
[15:43] <Ahadiel> Wires, Personally I have a "Source" folder under home.
[15:44] <Wires> that's a good idea
[15:44] <Wires> thanks
[15:44] <Treeh416> scunizi, It says "The configuration of VMWare Server e.x.p build-XXXX for Linux for this running kernalcompletedsuccessfully.
[15:44] <Treeh416> scunizi,  Now what?
 ubottu doesn't like me!
[15:44] <Simonft1> !tab | issa
[15:44] <Kevin`> Simonft1: see, doesn't make much difference. I already pasted that about 10 minutes ago :)
[15:44] <scunizi> Treeh416, now you should be able to install windows.
[15:44] <odinsbane> issa tab is auto complete for command line terminal stuff
 What for?
[15:44] <issa> I know, but what for?
[15:44] <Treeh416> scunizi,  How exactly? Where do I go?
[15:45] <issa> I mean why are u telling me?
[15:45] <Simonft1> issa: keeps the <> from around the nick, and is faster
[15:45] <Treeh416> scunizi,  I don't see the program under applications
[15:45] <odinsbane> so if you are in your home director and you want to get to your desktop type cd De(tab) and it will finish for you.
[15:45] <issa> Oh .. thanks :)
[15:45] <Simonft1> odinsbane: i meant for the irc
[15:45] <scunizi> Treeh416, hang on.. at one point it asked you about a port number.. 90<something> do you remember what that was?
[15:45] <issa> So anyone can tell me how can I delete data from CD+RW ?
[15:45] <Treeh416> scunizi,  Just 90 i think
[15:45] <Wires> and.. what exactly is the command to extra a tar.bz2 file
[15:46] <Treeh416> scunizi,  let me scroll up, one sec
[15:46] <issa> I can't get to that! I tring to check k3b but nothing
[15:46] <Treeh416> scunizi, Please specifya port for standard http connections to use [80]
[15:46] <Treeh416> scunizi,  for secure, it's 443
[15:46] <Simonft1> issa: http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:5uJRXAwmjxUJ:ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D398524+delete+data+from+a+cd-RW+ubuntu&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
[15:46] <Treeh416> scunizi,  Romote connections port is [902]
[15:46] <Ballena> hi
[15:47] <Simonft1> !hi | Ballena
[15:47] <Ballena> where can i fan the cron configuration file?
[15:47] <scunizi> Treeh416, there should be another one. .. yep that one.. remember all those ports.. now in FF type http://localhost:902
[15:47] <Beatrice> hi
[15:47] <phantom1> ﻿Ok can anybody help me When I turn Visual Effevts of the flickering of my 3D and Video containing windows stops. But I neade Compiz to is there a newer deb than those that come with Hardy?
[15:47] <Simonft1> !hi | Beatrice
[15:47] <snivek> Has anyone had issues with Hardy hanging every 60 seconds or so running off a battery on a laptop?
[15:47] <Toznoshio> How can I configure a browser (any browser really) to only accept HTTP responses from the site I'm visiting (thereby rejecting ads hosted by third parties, stat counters etc.) ... I'm aware that I'll end up with a very crippled browser if I do this, but that's OK, it's not going to be my main browser, just a browser for the occasional ultra-secure stuff
[15:48] <phantom1> Please Help
[15:48] <Ahadiel> Wires, tar -xvjf <file>
[15:48] <Treeh416> scunizi, not displaying anything...still transferring data ..?
[15:48] <Simonft1> Toznoshio: what are you trying to do, hack?
[15:48] <xintron> Toznoshio: lynx ;)
[15:48] <amenado> or w3m
[15:48] <devilash> odinsbane Right, I've done that. What now?
[15:48] <DrGamut> Is there a common software configuration on VPS linux hosts that limits the transfer rate of files over FTP/HTTP to individual clients? I bought hosting with 24mbit of bandwidth, and it uploads at more than that speed when running torrents and such, but when I download from it on my home computer I only get about 150 KB/s.
[15:48] <Toznoshio> Simonft1, no, just be ultra-safe online
[15:48] <jochmenDS> adblock
[15:48] <scunizi> Treeh416, just entering my sn now.
[15:49] <Treeh416> scunizi, "220 VMWare Authentication Daemon Version 1.10:SSL Requilred and other stuff
[15:49] <Treeh416> scunizi, Ok, great
[15:49] <Toznoshio> xintron, lynx does that?
[15:49] <legend2440> eyyYo: have you checked in system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts to make sure nothing in there is assigned ctrl+f?
[15:49] <xintron> Toznoshio: lynx is textbased :)
[15:49] <Dalle> hi
[15:50] <zanberdo> I'd like to write a script that dynamically loads an app at login based on whether or not I am running on battery or not (similar to the way disk checking iwll be suppressed when booting while on battery power).  Can anyone suggest how I might programmatically identify when I'm running on battery power?
[15:50] <eyyYo> legend2440, yes
[15:50] <snivek> Has anyone had issues with Hardy hanging every 60 seconds or so running off a battery on a laptop?
[15:51] <Dalle> hmm
[15:51] <Kevin`> zanberdo: /proc/acpu/battery/whatever
[15:51] <Kevin`> acpi*
[15:51] <legend2440> eyyYo: is package xbindkeys installed?
[15:51] <zanberdo> snivek: I'm running kubuntu hardy on battery on my lenovo lappy withont any delays...
[15:52] <Xcell> wich gl is best for 7.10??
[15:52] <scunizi> Treeh416, just finished .. give me a sec to investigate
[15:52] <Treeh416> scunizi, ok
[15:52] <devilash> Still there, odinsbane?
[15:53] <zanberdo> Kevin`: excellent, thank you.  I figured it was something to do with /proc, but wasn't sure what...
[15:53] <Wires> I've got a file called INSTALL after I extracted a tar file... what am I supposed to do with it? lol
[15:53] <Wires> there's no configure file in the directory or whatever
[15:53] <linxeh> Wires: read it
[15:53] <Hacksign> arch，how can i change my system fonts?
[15:53] <snivek> zanberdo: I am running Ubuntu and it get regular hangs on battery.  I have issues with complete locks occasionally.  When that occurs my caps and scroll lock keys flash in sync
[15:53] <jrib> Wires: read it :)  What are you installing?
[15:53] <Wires> ah
[15:53] <linxeh> Wires: less INSTALL
[15:53] <Wires> that makes sense :P
[15:53] <odinsbane> devilash somewhat.
[15:53] <Xcell> hey: which gl is best for 7.10
[15:53] <funkyhat> Wires: what are you installing?
[15:53] <linxeh> Xcell: which gl ?
[15:53] <devilash> odinsbane Well, I did what you said and removed the lines. What should I do now?
[15:53] <odinsbane> devilash now go through the tutorial broadcom sent you.
[15:54] <Xcell> open gl
[15:54] <odinsbane> make sure you save the file.
[15:54] <Simonft1> devilash: i am broadcom
[15:54] <linxeh> Xcell: "opengl" is probably the best. the implementation, well, that depends on your graphics card
[15:54] <zanberdo> snivek: what laptop manufacturer?
[15:54] <snivek> zanberdo: dell d620
[15:54] <Xcell> ok..what version in the repros will work
[15:54] <Xcell> ?
[15:55] <Xcell> just opengl
[15:55] <Xcell> ?
[15:55] <Intelligitimate> I got a serious dilemma. I fried something using fireglconfig on one of my computers. Now it no longer outputs anything to the monitor. It boots up, and I have logged in. I am trying to backup some of the data on the computer at this time. Winscp has failed me, and physically removing the hard drive to relocate doesn't work, because none of the connectors are the same to my other computers. I am thinking of trying remote deskt
[15:55] <Intelligitimate> op, but I have no idea how to use it.
[15:55] <JBB> Can.. I talk to someone?
[15:55] <zanberdo> snivek: I'm afraid I don't know anything about the dell lines and linux.  I've been running linux on lenovo T40, T41 and T61 without fail for the last year though... I'm sure that doesn't help though...
[15:55] <Xcell> GeForce 7600
[15:55] <zanberdo> !ask
[15:56] <snivek> zanberdo: gotcha, that is still good to know because I am thinking of buying a laptop soon and a big consideration will be which brands (hardware) have the best linux support
[15:56] <Xcell> nvm
[15:56] <JBB> Is there any chance that ubuntu, installed inside windows could mess up windows?
[15:57] <eth01> JBD: only if you installed them on the same partitions, MBR et cetera.
[15:57] <scunizi> Treeh416, you can log in at localhost:80
[15:57] <zanberdo> in what way have you installed ubuntu inside windows?   As a vm?
[15:57] <eth01> or rather, cocked the MBR up. it can happen.
[15:57] <eth01> cock *
[15:57] <Treeh416> scunizi, how?
[15:57] <robg_> JBB: if you put OSes of competing vendors on one drive you will import competition.
[15:57] <Treeh416> scunizi,  ohwait
[15:57] <Treeh416> scunizi,  nevermind
[15:57] <JBB> I insterted the ubuntu CD, and chose install inside windows
[15:58] <scunizi> Treeh416, it'll ask for a uname and pass.. haven't got past that yet.
[15:58] <cyber_brain_mfkg> hi all! one serious question! is there some nice howto that explains step by step how to configure ssh HostAuthorization???couldn't find anything useful for now!thanx
[15:58] <Treeh416> scunizi, what is my login?
[15:58] <scunizi> Treeh416, ^__^
[15:58] <jochmenDS> snivek look if there is something with power management gnome
[15:58] <Treeh416> scunizi,  do i need to register/
[15:58] <zanberdo> snivek: I personally swear by lenovo.  The R61 I recently bought works out of the box with linux (well, you have to install it, of course).  The only thing I'd do different is verify the wireless hardware to be sure it's not propritary if possible.
[15:58] <scunizi> Treeh416, if you have a serial number .. you're registered.
[15:58] <cyber_brain_mfkg> !ssh
[15:58] <kam0084> What do you think about 1,4 GHX and 512 ram comp., its for ubuntu or xubuntu rather ?
[15:58] <Treeh416> scunizi, oh..right...is your login the email adress?
[15:58] <snivek> jochmenDS: anything specific?  any kinda of Powermgt logs i can check?
[15:59] <JBB> Anyone know?
[15:59] <snivek> zanberdo: wireless has always been a sore spot for me with linux.  do you know what the better manufacturers are?
[15:59] <odinsbane> JBB what is your question again?
[15:59] <zanberdo> JBB: I wasn't aware that there was an option to install ubuntu inside windows.  you might start by describing what problem you are having.
[16:00] <Broadcom> snivek: stay far away from broadcom
[16:00] <scunizi> Treeh416, I'm on #vmware now trying to find out.
[16:00] <Broadcom> !install | zanberdo
[16:00] <Treeh416> scunizi,  It said I partially registerd...one sec
[16:01] <JBB> Ok, I ordered 8.04 through LaunchPad/ShipIt, I insterted the CD and chose "Install inside Windows"
[16:01] <devilash> broadcom I've got to the step 2, but I'm not sure which one to download
[16:01] <snivek> Broadcom: unfortunately that is what is in my dell - sucks!
[16:01] <odinsbane> snivek the madwifi drivers are awesome.
[16:01] <Broadcom> snivek: i can help you if you want
[16:01] <zanberdo> snivek: I like the intel line.  I have three lenovo and two use intel 2100 and 2200 respectively.  The 2200 is g whereas the 2100 is b, but both work flawlessly.  The R61 model has an Atheros which also works, but can be a little tricky at times.
[16:01] <JBB> And I think its causing problems with Windows
[16:02] <Broadcom> devilash: can you give me the link, i switch computers
[16:02] <Treeh416> scunizi,  I never got a username..
[16:02] <devilash> broadcom https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[16:02] <Broadcom> devilash: thanks, now put lspci in the terminal and put the result in pastebin, !paste for more info
[16:02] <snivek> Broadcom: I have them working now but I have had regular issues where it wont find/connect to my AP.  Many reboot or /etc/init.d/networking restart will eventually succeed in making a connection
[16:02] <xintron> Is it possible to get date and time added automatically with the screenshot app coming with ubuntu?
[16:03] <odinsbane> I have an external atheros card and it is the best card of three I have.
[16:03] <JBB> Like causing it to freeze, run slowly etc
[16:03] <scunizi> Treeh416, I didn't either.. strange..
[16:04] <Treeh416> scunizi, I found some forum topics on their site detailing it...
[16:04] <kam0084> comp 512 ramn, 1,4 Ghx is rather for ubuntu or xubuntu?
[16:04] <zanberdo> JBB: you really haven't described the problem though.  So you've installed ubuntu inside windows.  did the install succeed?  Can you boot to ubuntu?  What happens when you attempt to boot to windows?  You need to provide more information in order for others to help.  I'm not trying to be snarky, I'd like to help but need more info.
[16:04] <danza> xintron, the file has its own creation data fields... if you list the directory with ls -l
[16:04] <scunizi> Treeh416, me too.. should be your normal username and pass
[16:04] <jochmenDS> what brand is th atheros cadd
[16:04] <devilash> broadcom http://pastebin.com/d7f1ee430
[16:04] <Treeh416> scunizi,  I know...doesnt' work though
[16:04] <MrBashir> How can I change the directory where Axigen store's my domain's email (/var/opt/axigen/domains/[domainname]/) to /media/disk/axigen/domains/[domainname]/ ?
[16:05] <Wires> what do I press to get out of less?
[16:05] <Kevin`> q
[16:05] <Wires> ty
[16:05] <scunizi> Treeh416, that was the first thing I tried.. I also read that there shoudl be a desktop icon to get to the console.. still looking in the forums and #vmware
[16:05] <Broadcom> devilash: now run lspci -n | grep '14e4:43'
[16:05] <Treeh416> scunizi,  Ok..imlooking too
[16:05] <Wires> make: *** No rule to make target `stdlib.h', needed by `prog/dump/superio.rd'.  Stop.
[16:06] <Wires> ?
[16:06] <Broadcom> devilash: nevermind
[16:06] <Wires> can't find stdlib.h?
[16:06] <xintron> danza: I mean in the file name, when hitting printscreen you get "screenshot<date><time>.png" for example
[16:06] <scunizi> Treeh416, although this might sound weird.. we might have to reboot to get the services running correctly.  I'll do that and be right back..
[16:06] <Broadcom> devilash: step 2e
[16:06] <odinsbane> devilash what type of computer are you using?
[16:06] <Treeh416> Ok, metoo
[16:06] <Broadcom> odinsbane: i got it
[16:06] <snivek> whats the file you can check to see if you are running in laptop mode?
[16:06] <JBB> zanberdo: Sorry, I can understand. My problem is that I installed ubuntu inside windows, all looking good. But two days since then Windows has been freezing/ running slowly sometimes. Could this be caused by ubuntu?
[16:08] <zanberdo> JBB: so then you can boot to windows.  can you also boot to ubuntu?
[16:08] <Intelligitimate> I seriously need some help guys.
[16:08] <Broadcom> Intelligitimate: just ask again
[16:08] <Intelligitimate> I got a serious dilemma. I fried something using fireglconfig on one of my computers. Now it no longer outputs anything to the monitor. It boots up, and I have logged in. I am trying to backup some of the data on the computer at this time. Winscp has failed me, and physically removing the hard drive to relocate doesn't work, because none of the connectors are the same to my other computers. I am thinking of trying remote deskt
[16:08] <Intelligitimate> op, but I have no idea how to use it.
[16:08] <Intelligitimate> Anyway, scratch that.
[16:08] <robg_> JBB: you may have messed up the install.
[16:08] <devilash> odinsbane a dell Inspiron 1721, not the best but it's not bad as a freebie from my School :)
[16:08] <jonathan__> where
[16:08] <Intelligitimate> I know the IP number of the computer now, checked it via the router.
[16:09] <Intelligitimate> But it won't let me SSH or Winscpe to the computer to the get files off it.
[16:09] <Intelligitimate> It keeps saying connected refused.
[16:09] <Broadcom> !enter | Intelligitimate
[16:09] <phantom1> ﻿Ok can anybody help me When I turn Visual Effevts of the flickering of my 3D and Video containing windows stops. But I neade Compiz to is there a newer deb than those that come with Hardy?
[16:10] <Broadcom> phantom1: why do you need compiz?
[16:10] <davidooo> what is the command to enter in a irc chanel
[16:10] <jochmenDS> use an ide to usb connector
[16:10] <JBB> I've been running both, but now Windows just seems pretty unstable all of a sudden. Theres not much I can do now though, don't have access to the computer at this moment.
[16:10] <Broadcom> davidooo: from what?
[16:10] <davidooo> php
[16:10] <phantom1> ﻿Broadcom:Warkflow
[16:10] <bullgard4> After Gutsy>Hardy upgrade GNOME terminal does not show German umlauts and displays some text mode graphics characters wrongly although locale shows LANG=de_DE.UTF8. How to troubleshoot?
[16:10] <Broadcom> !prefix | JBB
[16:10] <Wires> dunno if u guys saw this before or not... make: *** No rule to make target `stdlib.h', needed by `prog/dump/superio.rd'.  Stop.
[16:10] <Broadcom> phantom1: /join #<channel name>
[16:10] <Treeh416> scunizi, hi
[16:11] <backslash7> I've installed cups and am now trying to access the webinterface from another machine, UNABLE TO CONNECT. Somebody told me that CUPS is not LISTENING yet.
[16:11] <backslash7> How can I do it ?
[16:11] <scunizi> Treeh
[16:11] <scunizi> Treeh416, hi..
[16:11] <Treeh416> scunizi, Yeah?
[16:11] <jochmenDS> use an ubuntu livecd and burn data or use usb memory stick
[16:11] <VousDeux> !mouse
[16:11] <rhodes> yeaha
[16:11] <davidooo> php channel please
[16:11] <Xorothal> how can i add a custom startup/shutdown script? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto only covers startup
[16:11] <zanberdo> JBB: ok, I understand. Sadly this is general question with only a general answer.  Generally speaking, you have installed something new to your machine and as such it might very well effect the installed base.  However, I'd first start to look at windows logging to see what might be amiss.  How long after installing ubuntu did your windows install start misbehaving?  Have you recenly applied any updates to windows (such as SP3 if running xp)?  What else
[16:11] <zanberdo> might be effecting windows?
[16:11] <Broadcom> !php
[16:11] <devilash> broadcom odinsbane I can't do step 3, because file 'bcmw15.inf' doesn't exist
[16:12] <Treeh416> scunizi,  Umm...I cant get the wifi to work again..
[16:12] <Xorothal> how can i add a custom startup/shutdown script? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto only covers startup
[16:12] <Treeh416> I tried sudo dhclient wlan0
[16:12] <zanberdo> backslash7: how are you navigating to the cups web interface?  http://localhost:631 is the standard method.
[16:12] <rhodes> maybe you'll can help me, i want to create a extended partition on my hard drive, but when i choose new i can't choose extended (only primary) how can i do ?
[16:12] <Broadcom> devilash: after which command?
[16:12] <legend2440> davidooo: /join ##php
[16:12] <phantom1> ﻿Broadcom: I came acros this article. Apearently Miro has some unfinished buisness with Compiz   http://thedarkmaster.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/solving-video-playback-problems-in-compiz-fusion-beryl/
[16:12] <Xorothal> Treeh416, try sudo ifdown wlan0 and then sudo ifup wlan0
[16:12] <backslash7> zanberdo: Thanks for talking to me. :D I can't use LOCALHOST since the server is ubuntu server without browser, I'm trying it from another computer in the network.
[16:12] <Xorothal> Treeh416, and then sudo dhclient wlan0
[16:12] <pim> when I use ps I only get to see 2 processes
[16:12] <zanberdo> backslash7: also, can you verify cups is running?  you can ps for it.  you can also attempt a restart with /etc/init.d/cupsys (usually preceeded with sudo).
[16:12] <odinsbane> devilash are you going through the same tutorial again?
[16:13] <devilash> broadcom 'sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmw15.inf'
[16:13] <pim> How do i get to see all processes with their PID?
[16:13] <DrBanzai> rhodes: How many partitions are currently on the hardrive?
[16:13] <devilash> odinsbane the one that broadcom sent me.
[16:13] <davidooo> thanks legend
[16:13] <JBB> zanberdo: Nothing really, I've just installed compizsettings manager and adobe flash on ubuntu, and general web browsing on windows.
[16:13] <jochmenDS> ps aux
[16:13] <zanberdo> backslash7: ok, try that host name and port 631 and see if you can access it.
[16:13] <rhodes> DrBanzai: 3
[16:13] <legend2440> davidooo: np
[16:13] <pim> thanks jochmenDS
[16:13] <odinsbane> devilash so do ls and change the name to whatever .inf file you  have
[16:13] <Treeh416> scunizi, Sec...it's still going
[16:13] <scunizi> Treeh416, access denied.. I'm going through the install process again.  when you get that working again install wifi radar from synaptic.. It'll put a launcher under Applications/Internet.. it should make it easier.
[16:13] <backslash7> No zanberdo I can't
[16:13] <van> hella
[16:13] <backslash7> "Unable to connect" zanberdo
[16:14] <Treeh416> scunizi, ok
[16:14] <backslash7> But I can ping it and access samba shared, that's not the problem. zanberdo
[16:14] <DrBanzai> rhodes: And are they primary or extended?
[16:14] <zanberdo> JBB: let me ask you this: how do you boot between windows and ubuntu?  Do you select from a boot menu?
[16:14] <rhodes> DrBanzai: i have two primary, one extended
[16:14] <JBB> Yep, I do.
[16:14] <bullgard4> Nach dem Hardy>Gutsy-Upgrade zeigt das GNOME-Terminal Umlaute als Fragezeichen an und zeigt einige Textmodus-Grafikzeichen falsch an, obwohl '~$  locale' ausgibt "LANG=de_DE.UTF8". Wie kann ich diesen Fehler beseitigen?
[16:14] <Intelligitimate> I need a command sequence to get to the command line and to allow ssh connections (I don't have any output to see what is going on).
[16:14] <DannyV> dammit, why can't the installer find an IP address...
[16:15] <zanberdo> backslash7: ok, so the service might not be running. Can you ssh to the server that's supposed to be running cups and attempt the /etc/init.d/cupsys restart?
[16:15] <robg_> JBB: do you know how to boot from the BIOS ?
[16:15] <Oli``> USB has locked up (lsusb just stalls) and I can't access any USB devices (mouse included). Can I restart USB?
[16:15] <backslash7> zanberdo: I restarted it, it is running..
[16:15] <DrBanzai> rhodes: And which partitioner are you using?
[16:15] <scunizi> Treeh416, I think the answer is in the first line of installation.... with IPv6 active web access might have issues.
[16:15] <zanberdo> backslash7: hmm... I'm afraid you've exhausted my ability to help... sorry.
[16:15] <rhodes> DrBanzai: gparted :)
[16:15] <backslash7> oh darn
[16:15] <scunizi> !blacklist | scunizi Treeh
[16:16] <zanberdo> bullgard4: !de
[16:16] <JBB> Zanberdo: I'll talk to you later, I don't know much details of the problem, thank you anyway
[16:16] <backslash7> zanberdo: np... I just need this printer to work
[16:16] <jochmenDS> ubottu is wise
[16:16] <Sonderblade> is upgrading from gutsy to hardy a good idea?
[16:16] <Treeh416> scunizi, Ok...One second...internet still not working
[16:17] <erUSUL> Sonderblade: imho yes
[16:17] <zanberdo> JBB: ok. one last point though: if you are selecting either windows or ubuntu at boot time, then I'm guessing it's unlikely that ubuntu is effecting windows.  I hope that helps.
[16:17] <tremby> is there a program which can get contact data from my Nokia phone over its USB link?
[16:17] <Intelligitimate> I need a command sequence to get to the command line and to allow ssh connections (I don't have any output to see what is going on).
[16:18] <bzaks> How do I get rid of Swiftweasel browser?
[16:18] <zanberdo> backslash7: sorry i couldn't be more help.  I've only used cups on my local machine and have never attempted to configure it on a remote server.
[16:18] <soundray> Sonderblade: generally, people are happy with their upgraded systems. I would recommend having a full backup, though (always a good idea)
[16:18] <bahr> How do I burn an .img file in Ubuntu 8.04?
[16:18] <backslash7> Yea zanberdo, no problemo...
[16:18] <devilash> it works!
[16:18] <devilash> Success!
[16:18] <rsk> bahr: try k3b
[16:19] <Treeh416> scunizi, I can'tget the internet to work... :(
[16:19] <devilash> Thanks a ton, Broadcom and Odinsbard
[16:19] <rhodes> DrBanzai: i'm using gParted, but i can't create my second extended partition
[16:19] <zanberdo> bahr: k3b or growisofs
[16:19] <Wires> can someone help me with this?  make: *** No rule to make target `stdlib.h', needed by `prog/dump/superio.rd'.  Stop.
[16:19] <bzaks> What happened to the nvidia-settings program?
[16:19] <Intelligitimate> Why can't anyone help me?
[16:19] <zanberdo> bzaks: you may need to install in from repos...
[16:19] <zanberdo> !ask Intelligitimate
[16:19] <linuxubunt90> ciao a tutti
[16:19] <zanberdo> !ask
[16:19] <bzaks> zanberdo: I just upgraded, it used to be there
[16:20] <scunizi> !blacklist
[16:20] <JBB> zanberdo, thanks. :)
[16:20] <soundray> Intelligitimate: can you explain a bit more about the problem?
[16:20] <scunizi> !ipv6
[16:20] <DrBanzai> rhodes: Ok, I'm looking...
[16:20] <Treeh416> Xorothal, Hey,can you help me get my wifi card to work?
[16:20] <bzaks> intelligitimate: sudo apt-get install ssh;
[16:20] <zanberdo> bzaks: odd.  have you run which nvidia-settings yet?
[16:20] <bzaks> bam you're done
[16:20] <Treeh416> Xorothal, It was just working..
[16:20] <rhodes> DrBanzai: maybe with console
[16:20] <Xorothal> Treeh416, wt's the matter with it?
[16:20] <bzaks> Zanberdo: I don't understand the question, I'm sorry
[16:20] <zanberdo> JBB: np
[16:21] <Treeh416> Xorothal, nevermind XD just gotit
[16:21] <Xorothal> bzaks, have you run "which nvidia-settings" yet
[16:21] <Xorothal> kklol
[16:21] <student1> trying to burn cd-r ... always errors out no matter what app i use ... no problem burning dvds on same writer ... maybe because it is a sata drive?
[16:21] <Treeh416> scunizi,  internet is up and running
[16:21] <soundray> Intelligitimate: sorry, called away
[16:21] <bzaks> Xorothal: I have not, what does "which" do? look up dependencies?
[16:21] <DrBanzai> rhodes: Also, might try the boot cd version of gparted
[16:21] <rhodes> ok i will do it
[16:22] <Xorothal> bzaks, it finds where the executable for that command is
[16:22] <rhodes> DrBanzai: thx U
[16:22] <zanberdo> bzaks: the utility which followed by the executable will tell you which path the executable is located.  You should first try whereis nvidia-settings to see if it's in your path, then which nvidia-settings to see which path it resolves to.  The app maybe installed by not in the path...
[16:22] <bzaks> xorothal: it does not exist
[16:22] <Treeh416> scunizi, where do i find the link to the wifi radar thing/
[16:22] <Intelligitimate> I have no output to the monitor, soundray. None. White screen only. The stupid fireglconfig problem -fried- something on my motherboard. Now, before I send my computer back to the manufacturer for repair, I need to backup the data on the hard drive. I don't have any connectors to just physically put the hard drive in another computer, so I need to connect to it. It is refusing my SSH and Winscp connections right now. So I need
[16:22] <Intelligitimate>  a way to escape to the command line and TYPE something in that will allow other computers to remotely connect to it and start copying data.
[16:22] <Xorothal> bzaks, eg "which echo" returns /bin/echo
[16:22] <keyplute> Hell Everyone...I need some help!  Both Normal and Alternate Installers crahs during installation.  8.04 Crashes at 6% with the FATA ERROR message.  Any ideas?
[16:22] <bzaks> Xorothal and Zanberdo: very cool!  Idid not know that! Thank you!
[16:22] <Xorothal> lol
[16:23] <Treeh416> Hey guys, is there a program I can use so I don't have to set up my intenret connection through terminal each log in?
[16:23] <zanberdo> bzaks: there are many more cool utils.  did you find nvidia-settings?
[16:23] <ChaosTheory_> http://www.videolan.org/doc/vls-user-guide/en/images/terminal-linux.jpg
[16:23] <ChaosTheory_> How come my terminal doesn't look like that? =D
[16:23] <ChaosTheory_> How do you get a timestamp and colors like that?
[16:23] <bzaks> zanberdo: no I did not, I'm going to check to see if I have the new nvidia glx drivers or not with the upgrade
[16:23] <ljsoftnet> keyplute: does it say something like kernel panic?
[16:23] <zanberdo> bzaks: ok, gl.
[16:23] <DrBanzai> Intelligitimate: If you suspect that it is currently sitting somewhere in X windows, ctrl-alt-backspace will kill the x session, and drop it to a commandline.
[16:23] <ChaosTheory_> Also, with most of my terminal emulators, whenever I'm using screen and I press backspace and there's nothing there, it flashes like crazy.
[16:23] <jramsey> 
[16:24] <ChaosTheory_> Does this happen to anyone else?
[16:24] <scunizi> Treeh416, you can get it from synaptic package manager located in System/Administration .. once synaptic is loaded just search for wifi
[16:24] <ChaosTheory_> Is there a way to fix it?
[16:24] <Intelligitimate> DrBanzai, now type what to let people connect via SSH?
[16:24] <jramsey> any open office writer experts? i want to number all lines except for the header/footer lines
[16:24] <Treeh416> scunizi, it just died again :(
[16:24] <danza> Treeh416, you can also try to edit /etc/net/interfaces, but first real the man
[16:24] <DrBanzai> Intelligitimate: Then you'd have to blind type "sudo apt-get install ssh"
[16:24] <bzaks> Interesting: it appears that "nvidia-settings" was uninstalled during my upgrade
[16:24] <Intelligitimate> I have SSH.
[16:25] <keyplute> ljsoftnet....Nothing.  Just Red Screen and Fatal Error.  The hard part is too, I can never see what it is trying to install at 6% because it says "Please Wait"
[16:25] <Intelligitimate> It just isn't letting other people connect.
[16:25] <cyber_brain_mfkg> how to make .deb from source so i can remove it easily if required ???
[16:25] <keyplute> With the normal install, no fatal error message, it just stops and goes back to to the live cd desktop
[16:25] <frojnd> I need a phone that can connect to a computer via ssh What do u suggest ? If it can connect via usb and somehow than use ssh protocol this would be great..
[16:25] <erUSUL> cyber_brain_mfkg: checkinstall
[16:25] <erUSUL> !checkinstall | cyber_brain_mfkg
[16:25] <ChaosTheory_> Can anyone help with that?
[16:26] <Treeh416> danza, ok
[16:26] <erUSUL> cyber_brain_mfkg: i do not have the problem
[16:26] <erUSUL> ChaosTheory_: i do not have the problem
[16:26] <Wires> can I get some help please?
[16:26] <Wires> make: *** No rule to make target `stdlib.h', needed by `prog/dump/superio.rd'.  Stop.
[16:26] <ChaosTheory_> erUSUL: Hm, so its specific to my computer. =|
[16:26] <Sithe> Getting IDE's to work on ubuntu = pain
[16:27] <cyber_brain_mfkg> what if that program already exist in repos but i want to compile it myself and install it with checkinstall!would it be a problem?
[16:27] <ChaosTheory_> erUSUL: It's really a roadblock from letting me use the terminal emulator I want to use.
[16:27] <scunizi> Treeh416, brb.. just rebooted and have to step away for a minute
[16:27] <erUSUL> ChaosTheory_: maybe you should disable terminal bell on gnome-terminall (as i did)
[16:27] <Treeh416> scunizi, ok
[16:27] <Wires> anyone? ;/
[16:27] <Intelligitimate> DrBanzai, I have SSH installed, it just refuses any attempt at connecting.
[16:27] <Sithe> Where would be the correct place to go to get help picking a graphics card?
[16:27] <odinsbane> wires what are you compiling
[16:27] <bigsexy> does anyone know how to adjust screen brightness in ubuntu?
[16:28] <Wires> lm_sensor
[16:28] <Wires> s
[16:28] <ChaosTheory_> erUSUL: Nope, it still flashes.
[16:28] <keyplute> ljsoftnet....any ideas?
[16:28] <bsharitt> \x
[16:28] <bigsexy> does anyone know how to adjust the screen brightness in ubuntu?
[16:28] <Sithe> bigsexy: Your monitor does it lol
[16:29] <bigsexy> i mean make it brighter
[16:29] <odinsbane> lm_sensors what are those from?  If you know a related packed you get so sudo apt-get build-dep packagename
[16:29] <Simonft> does anybody know a graphical app for cpu usage?
[16:29] <scunizi> !ipv6
[16:29] <Sithe> bigsexy: I don't think you can. You might need a new monitor
[16:29] <Wires> I dont
[16:29] <bigsexy> oh ok thanks
[16:29] <ChaosTheory_> http://weichen.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/screenshot5.png
[16:30] <odinsbane> wires what is lm_sensors for?
[16:30] <sa125> helllo - anyone here used VMWare player before?
[16:30] <ChaosTheory_> How did he get that "[wei:~$]" to be colored like that?
[16:30] <Wires> fan speeds, etc.
[16:30] <dextrous_> Anyone else that can't get the 3D cube to work? or have 2 desktops, can someone help please.
[16:30] <ChaosTheory_> And how did he get the [wei:~$] anyway?
[16:30] <acu> I want to convert mp3 files to CD audio - what application does that ?
[16:30] <ChaosTheory_> Instead of the default thing.
[16:30] <bigsexy> the cube was a little buggy for me, i prefer speed
[16:30] <pim> acu why do you want to do that?
[16:31] <simplyubuntu> hey all
[16:31] <odinsbane> wires so you have a file lm_sensors and you are trying to compile it?
[16:31] <trident523> Hey #ubuntu, my teacher exported her powerpoint files as these crazy-funky web files that have calls to the regular powerpoint. 'cept, it just flat out dosen't work for me. Tried ie4linux, it throws up a large amount of errors, and renders hardly anything. What should I do, besides ask the teacher for the original files?
[16:31] <no7up4u2> http://ubuntuforums.org/ down?
[16:31] <simplyubuntu> can anyone help me with setting up a headless cups server?
[16:31] <simplyubuntu> no7up4u2 I think so too
[16:31] <bigsexy> whats headless cups server?
[16:31] <acu> My car does not have mp3 player - only CD and the RF is very noisy - so I better conver the mp3 to CD
[16:31] <simplyubuntu> bigsexy it's a print server that runs without a gui
[16:31] <bigsexy> oh ok
[16:31] <simplyubuntu> that can be config'd remotely
[16:32] <pim> You need to code to RedBook audio
[16:32] <zubu> can neone help me with error 17!!
[16:32] <Wires> I had a tar.gz2 file, extracted it, and now im trying to compile
[16:32] <Intelligitimate> This is hopeless....
[16:32] <odinsbane> acu what cd burning software are you using?
[16:32] <Intelligitimate> What is the terminal only option in Grub?
[16:32] <bigsexy> does anyone know how to set vlc as default media player? it worked in version 7.10 but doesn't for 8.4
[16:32] <whoop> acu: use brasero disc burning
[16:32] <odinsbane> wires so first you run configure?
[16:32] <bigsexy> it says vlc is default but totem still pops up
[16:32] <zanberdo> zubu !ask
[16:33] <zanberdo> !ask
[16:33] <langleyo> need help setting up wammu to use my sony ericsson phone pls
[16:33] <loluser> erm what happend to the forums?
[16:33] <kane77> acu, k3b does that if you install libk3b2-mp3 package
[16:33] <dextrous_> Anyone else that can't get the 3D cube to work? or have 2 desktops, can someone help please?
[16:33] <loluser> you need 4 desktops
[16:33] <acu> whoolp OK, I will use brasero - ususally I use k3b but i never converted mp3 to CD audio
[16:33] <loluser> because a cube has 4 sides
[16:33] <Treeh416> \\\\\
[16:33] <Treeh416> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[16:33] <zubu> !ask
[16:33] <Wires> there is no configure file
[16:33] <Intelligitimate> Which selection in Grub goes to the terminal?
[16:33] <kane77> loluser, actually cube has 6 sides :P
[16:33] <loluser> kane77 oh ya lolololol
[16:33] <loluser> my bad
[16:34] <trident523> Eh, oh well. I'll ask again at rush-hour.
[16:34] <zubu> zanberdo: i am getting error 17 when grub loads up!
[16:34] <xodiak> Good Morning people
[16:34] <dextrous_> Tried that, but it changes itself back to 1 for some reason, all I can do is flip it.
[16:34] <zubu> zanberdo: i have sen the ubuntu forum
[16:34] <william_> im a newb how do i install flash player 9
[16:34] <langleyo> help pls to connect up wammu to my sony ericsson
[16:34] <magnetron> !grub | zubu
[16:34] <loluser> anyone know what the story is with the forums? says database error for me
[16:34] <zanberdo> zubu: ok, that's a little more specifc.  I haven't seen that before however.  One sec
[16:34] <simplyubuntu> anyone?
[16:34] <DrBanzai> Intelligitimate: 'c' will drop you to a grub command line
[16:35] <zubu> zanberdo: but i am having problem understanding the steps!!
[16:35] <xodiak> Is XMMS and Audacity basically the same thing? Skins interchangeable anyway?
[16:35] <Treeh416> scunizi, Hi again
[16:35] <zanberdo> zubu: when the forums are back up check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[16:35] <Treeh416> scunizi,  I can connect to th einternet but it only lasts for about 2 seconds and then dies
[16:35] <odinsbane> wires did you read the INSTALL file?  I think you have kernel 2.6XXX ?
[16:35] <U-Gutsy-Gibbon> does ubuntu have something like registry like in windows
[16:35] <Intelligitimate> DrBanzai, is that what you put after hitting esc to enter grub? I don't have any output to tell what I am doing.
[16:35] <bigsexy> i had vlc as defauld for 7.10, but when i upgraded it still said its default but totem opens instead
[16:35] <DrBanzai> Intelligitimate: Yes
[16:35] <Treeh416> Hey guys, i can connect to the internet but it only lasts two seconds and then dies
[16:35] <Treeh416> anyone know why?
[16:35] <Wires> yes I did... mm.. how do I find out what kernal version it is?
[16:35] <bigsexy> no registry in ubuntu u gutsy gibbon
[16:36] <ber1> how can i get my wireless (WPA2 personal) to automatically remember/enter my password whenever it detects the wireless signal (as in always)? it won't remember it even if i set it in "Wireless Network Settings". also, how do i keep default keyring from badgering me from my password constantly? any help is appreciated
[16:36] <keyplute> Alright...anyone else have any ideas why 8.04 Install would crash with Fatal Error everytime at 6% during the installation of files??
[16:36] <Jaikkuli> my mouse has extra buttons that when i press.. they go back and foward in firefox.. where should i look to alter those bindings
[16:36] <Darkside> hai, i'm using ubuntu but with kde installed, now, for a while gdm has been starting up instead of kdm, and i've been fine with that, but i figured its probably about time i changed it, so, i tried, kdm came up fine, but i got this error when i tried to login: (EE) fglrx(0): [16:36] <bazhang> xodiak, you're thinking of audacious; audacity is a sound editor
[16:36] <scunizi> Treeh416, that's frustrating.. ask again here.. someone will guide you
[16:36] <cyber_brain_mfkg> ok i did sudo checkinstall but i can
[16:36] <xodiak> bazhang: yes, that's what I meant.
[16:36] <odinsbane> Wires are you using hardy?
[16:36] <Treeh416> scunizi,  Yeah :P Anyprogress on VMware?
[16:36] <cyber_brain_mfkg> 't get .deb package
[16:36] <Wires> hardy? lol
[16:37] <scunizi> Treeh416, working on it.. nothing yet
[16:37] <zubu> zanberdo yeah i kno! but i am having problem with certain steps like dont we start the Bios setip by F2 at boot
[16:37] <bazhang> xodiak, yeah, most of the developers went to audacious from xmms iirc
[16:37] <cyber_brain_mfkg> 8.04
[16:37] <Treeh416> scunizi, Ok, keep me updated
[16:37] <Treeh416> scunizi, I just got wifi radar to install
[16:37] <zubu> zanberdo: and where do i select the ubuntu part of my HDD?
[16:38] <Treeh416> scunizi,  What's wifi radar under? I don't see it under admin
[16:38] <bigsexy> does anyone know how to make vlc open by default for the media player?
[16:38] <dextrous_> Can someone tell me how to allow me desktops CompizConfg setting will only allow me to have 1, any ideas or commands on how to change this?
[16:38] <bullgard4> After grading up Gutsy to Hardy, GNOME shows some identifiers in English and others in German although '~$ locale' returns "LANG=de_DE.UTF8". For example, the GNOME menu shows 'Applications', 'Places', 'System' but their menu items are largely GERMAN. How to troubleshoot?
[16:38] <keyplute> Alright...looks like no one can help me :(\
[16:38] <odinsbane> dextrous the width
[16:38] <Treeh416> Hey guys, what's wifi radar under?
[16:39] <zanberdo> zubu: regarding how or why you need to enter bios I'm afraid I can not say.  However, you specify what partition to start with grub via the root command.
[16:39] <odinsbane> wires I think hardy is 2.6.17 so you should use the quick start and I think then you need to install with say apt-get ir2 package
[16:39] <josspyker> Treeh416: what do you mean?
[16:40] <wachunei> help: imac5,1 (intel not alluminum), dual boot, ubuntu 8.04, everything's fine but the bcm43xx driver... i can't get it to work, help please
[16:40] <dextrous_> Odinsbane thanks I should be able to get it from here, ty.
[16:40] <wachunei> i'm connected through ethernet
[16:40] <eric> I'm trying to get postfix to relay to my local isp's smtp server.  I keep getting all my emails bounced though because it says my from address is incorrect.  Is there a way to make the from domain automagically use my current dynamic ip?
[16:40] <Treeh416> josspyker,  I just installed it from Synaptic...but where do I access the progrma?
[16:40] <josspyker> Treeh416: usr/bin
[16:40] <Wires> what's quick start?  and what's the ir2 package?
[16:40] <keyplute> Anyone?? Hardy install problem...no one can help me?
[16:40] <Wires> so many questions.. lol
[16:40] <jardi> hi all
[16:40] <Wires> invalid operation ir2
[16:40] <jardi> ﻿I have an issue concerning some partitions that are shown on the desktop wheras I want to hide them. Theses partitions are mounted on directories like /home/<user>/Music and I want to navigate to theses directories without noticing I'm on another partition. I've made some fdi rules to have hal set the volume.ignore option to true for these partitions but nautilis still put them on my desktop. What can I do ?
[16:41] <scunizi> Treeh416, applications/internet
[16:41] <zanberdo> keyplute: have you described the problem yet?
[16:41] <DrBanzai> keyplute: Did you run the integrity check on the cd?
[16:41] <Treeh416> josspyker, Ok i found it thanks
[16:41] <Treeh416> scunizi,  Thanks :D..
[16:41] <keyplute> zanberdo...three times...yep, CD is good, and just to amke sure downloaded bother versions again
[16:41] <odinsbane> Wires there is a QUICKSTART file which tells you what to do for 2.6X kernels
[16:41] <keyplute> same problem
[16:41] <odinsbane> wires I tried that and there still seems to be a dep. missing.
[16:41] <DrBanzai> keyplute: How old is the target computer?
[16:41] <wachunei> help: imac5,1 (intel not alluminum), dual boot, ubuntu 8.04, everything's fine but the bcm43xx driver... i can't get it to work, help please, i'm connected through ethernet now, i've installed bc43-fwcutter or something like that... still can't get it to work, i've tried a lot of tutorials too..
[16:42] <pc03> hy..................
[16:42] <zanberdo> keyplute: well, sorry to make you describe it again, but if you do I or sometone else might be able to help...
[16:42] <Wires> hmm
[16:42] <ber1> how do i force my wireless network to automatically remember and enter my password, and how do i prevent default keyring from badgering me constantly? my wireless is wpa2 personal
[16:42] <keyplute> DrBanzai:  It's a P4 2.0, 2 40 GB Hard Drives (no dual boot or anything, just want a second drive in linux for extra storage, 1 GB Ram
[16:42] <jardi> ﻿I have an issue concerning some partitions that are shown on the desktop wheras I want to hide them. Theses partitions are mounted on directories like /home/<user>/Music and I want to navigate to theses directories without noticing I'm on another partition. I've made some fdi rules to have hal set the volume.ignore option to true for these partitions but nautilis still put them on my desktop. What can I do ?
[16:43] <alesan> how do I install acrobat reader?
[16:43] <pc03> hy.........
[16:43] <josspyker> ber1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[16:43] <Wires> where is QUICKSTART locationed?
[16:43] <keyplute> Zanberdo...Install crashes at 6% with Fatal Error Everytime with alternate install.....and with the normal install, it doesn't give me a percent, starts to install, and crashes, and returns back to the Live CD Icon
[16:43] <DrBanzai> keyplute: And it always stops at 6%, regardless of which cd you use?
[16:43] <jardi> Wires : do you mean <alt>+<f2> ?
[16:43] <dextrous_> Odinsbane thanks man, got it going. :P
[16:44] <zanberdo> keyplute: ok. well, I have seen that specific issue with the alernate cd and in my case the media was bad.
[16:44] <whoop> DrBanzai: did you check cd for errors?
[16:44] <odinsbane> Wires in the directory where you untared the files.
[16:44] <mcrom> hi
[16:44] <keyplute> DrBanzai:  alternate always stops at 6% with the linux red screen of death
[16:44] <Wires> not there
[16:44] <jardi> ﻿I have an issue concerning some partitions that are shown on the desktop wheras I want to hide them. Theses partitions are mounted on directories like /home/<user>/Music and I want to navigate to theses directories without noticing I'm on another partition. I've made some fdi rules to have hal set the volume.ignore option to true for these partitions but nautilis still put them on my desktop. What can I do ?
[16:44] <DrBanzai> keyplute: What was on the drive before?
[16:44] <keyplute> DrBanzai:  Regardless of One IDE hard Drive, or two hard drives connected, and regardless of which hard drive I use
[16:44] <mcrom> i'd like to run fsck. how can i do that (since drive is mounted)
[16:44] <zanberdo> jardi: please wait some time before merely reposting your problem.
[16:44] <mcrom> ?
[16:44] <odinsbane> in lm_sensors-2.10.6/QUICKSTART
[16:45] <Wires> this is 3.0.2
[16:45] <Slart> mcrom: don't run fsck on a mounted system
[16:45]  * wachunei is waiting for somebody to hel him
[16:45] <Slart> mcrom: if you have to run it on a hard drive you can't take offline, do it at a reboot
[16:45] <zanberdo> mcrom: you can force it to run at boot, but you can't run it on a mounted file system
[16:45] <keyplute> Had a hardy install on one of the drives (different config) and XP was on the second drive.  However, I used Ultimate Boot CD to wipe partition tables, boot sectors, and performed low level formats on each drive.  THat waas my first thought was maybe a grub issue
[16:45] <odinsbane> wires cvs?
[16:45] <mcrom> zanberdo: how can i force a fsck at boot?
[16:45] <Treeh416> Hey could someone help me figure out why my wifi card's connection only lasts two seconds?
[16:45] <jardi> mcrom : you can remount your partition read only : sudo mount -o remount;ro /your/mount/point    and then you can fsck
[16:45] <Wires> cvs?  I'm a lamen :P
[16:46] <odinsbane> Wires did you type make user
[16:46] <Wires> make all
[16:46] <wachunei> Treeh416: al least it lasts, i can't get the driver.... xD
[16:46] <mcrom> jardi, thanks. but i'm talking about the drive ubuntu's running on
[16:46] <cyber_brain_mfkg> someone installed torque on hardy from repos?is that working correctly?
[16:46] <amireldor> Treeh416, all i know is that sometimes i need to run `sudo /etc/init.d/networkding restart`
[16:46] <DrBanzai> keyplute: Hmmmm...well, the only thing I can think of to try would be to burn a new cd, and about 2x and see if that works.
[16:46] <szymon_g> hi
[16:46] <amireldor> Treeh416, /etc/init.d/networking that is
[16:46] <keyplute> DrBanzai:  If this helps any...whenever the launcher starts to install, I am getting an ACPI error as well
[16:46] <Treeh416> wachunei, :( I have two adapters...one doesnt work at allim lucky XD
[16:46] <Treeh416> amireldor, thanks a lot..trying it now
[16:47] <szymon_g> https://secure.wikileaks.org/wiki/Proposed_US_ACTA_multi-lateral_intellectual_property_trade_agreement
[16:47] <szymon_g> :/
[16:47] <Angellore> Hi :)
[16:47] <DrBanzai> keyplute: In that case, at the boot prompt type no=acpi
[16:47] <Treeh416> scunizi, Still nothing?
[16:47] <DrBanzai> keyplute: Or maybe just no acpi
[16:47] <zanberdo> mcrom: touch /forcefsck
[16:47] <ccl> mang
[16:47] <jardi> mcron: yes, you can do that, but you need to go in single user mode before : do a "sudo init 1" and be prepared to enter the darkness of command line only systems
[16:47] <odinsbane> Wires for 2.6 kernels you need to type just make user
[16:47] <keyplute> What does the ACPI do?
[16:48] <mcrom> zanberdo, cool. does this work too? shutdown -r -F now  ?
[16:48] <DrBanzai> keyplute: It's something to do with power management, and some implimentations are buggy
[16:48] <zanberdo> mcrom: that is, if the file forcefsck is found in root at boot time, the next time you boot it will force fsck
[16:48] <scunizi> Treeh416, nope.. might be worth uninstalling and installling the normal version instead of the beta.. I know it works and has a launcher.
[16:48] <ccl> hello
[16:48] <Treeh416> scunizi, can the normal version run everything in windows?
[16:48] <Yodafon> szevasztok
[16:48] <zanberdo> mcrom: man shutdown does not show -F as an option (on my machine)
[16:48] <Wires> ah yeah, im reading that now on the website
[16:48] <keyplute> Alright, well I will try everything again...it is just hard, because of course it gets past the partitioning, so it's a pain to go back and destroy partition tables everytime it fails...but I do, to make sure that it's not a GRUB issue
[16:48] <odinsbane> Wires and it appears you will have to install bison.
[16:49] <Wires> what does make user do vs make all?
[16:49] <Wires> argh, lol
[16:49] <Wires> what would bison be?
[16:49] <jardi> mcrom: if your system is using ext3 file system (wich is the default) you probably don't need it
[16:49] <Yodafon> Üdvözlök mindenkit!
[16:49] <DrBanzai> keyplute: Good luck
[16:49] <Wires> I get the same error with make user
[16:49] <scunizi> Treeh416, just mentioning that cause you needed windows today.. yes it will run everything EXCEPT direct x stuff.  If it's graphically intensive nope..
[16:49] <the> hi
[16:49] <jardi> ﻿I have an issue concerning some partitions that are shown on the desktop wheras I want to hide them. Theses partitions are mounted on directories like /home/<user>/Music and I want to navigate to theses directories without noticing I'm on another partition. I've made some fdi rules to have hal set the volume.ignore option to true for these partitions but nautilis still put them on my desktop. What can I do ?
[16:49] <Yodafon> g
[16:49] <Yodafon> g
[16:49] <Yodafon> g
[16:49] <FloodBot3> Yodafon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:50] <Treeh416> scunizi,  No problem, don't need games
[16:50] <Treeh416> scunizi, ok, installing now
[16:50] <odinsbane> Wires for version 3.0.2 I do make user and it dies at bison, I install bison and it dies at flex.
[16:50] <Treeh416> scunizi, ...how to uninstall the other installation
[16:50] <mcrom> jardi, hm wow. my laptop (a thinkpad) fell off my table (height: ~70 cm)... then i thought i should check everything (although i don't know what to check...) any hints?
[16:50] <Wires> lol
[16:50] <scunizi> Treeh416, hang on and I'll look
[16:50] <Wires> so... whys this shit happening?
[16:50] <Kiiii> using live cd and the cursor is movin like crazy, using laptop touchpad.. cant get into menys and such, anyone know what to do?
[16:51] <Wires> well, I mean.. why am I getting the stdlib.h error?
[16:51] <mcrom> brb
[16:52] <chaii> i cant uninstall my ubuntu. help
[16:52] <jardi> mcrom: that's a good idea, fut fsck is for logical erros (such as inceherent file system) you wan to run badblocks to make a deep physical test, read man badblocks deaply to not make any mystake
[16:52] <zanberdo> chaii: what do you mean "uninstall ubuntu"?
[16:52] <komputes> What package takes care of the X Buffer (copy/paste by selection/MouseBut3)
[16:52] <Wires> that's blasphemy :P
[16:52] <chaii> i cant switch to windows
[16:52] <chaii> i want to switch to windows for a while
[16:53] <scunizi> Treeh416, sudo ./usr/bin/vmware-uninstall.pl
[16:53] <zanberdo> chaii: if you've installed ubuntu to dual-bbot with windows, you whould be able to select windows at boot time... as ubuntu is an OS, you "uninstall" it be removing the partition...
[16:53] <zanberdo> s/bbot/boot/
[16:53] <HeXiLeD> hi guys
[16:53] <chaii> nope. it's not a dual boot
[16:53] <istanbul27erk> hi
[16:53] <zanberdo> chaii: you can remove the option to dual-boot with fixmbr (under windows)
[16:54] <chaii> no partition
[16:54] <william_>  i am a total newb how do i install flash player9
[16:54] <istanbul27erk> i am gonna install ubuntu in few minutes
[16:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !flash
[16:54] <HeXiLeD> quick question.  io have added a user to the admin group and when i do su or sudo -i and enter  the correct password; it still denies me access. what am i missing here?
[16:54] <zanberdo> chaii: then what?  did you install ubuntu over the top of windowS?  ubuntu is an OS and not just an application you run in windows.
[16:54] <chaii> yep.
[16:54] <Wires> :/
[16:54] <istanbul27erk> does ubuntu support usb webcam immediately or i have to find drivers?
[16:54] <Treeh416> scunizi, doesn't work...im just going to install th eother one and see what happens
[16:54] <chaii> i did. i guess that was a mitsake?
[16:54] <zanberdo> chaii: if you replaced windows with ubuntu then you need to reinstall windows.
[16:54] <DrGamut> Is there a common software configuration on VPS linux hosts that limits the transfer rate of files over FTP/HTTP to individual clients? I bought hosting with 24mbit of bandwidth, and it uploads at more than that speed when running torrents and such, but when I download from it on my home computer I only get about 150 KB/s.
[16:54] <Jack_Sparrow> HeXiLeD Does the user you are trying to su with have admin rights
[16:55] <odinsbane> wires do you have GNU make GCC bison and flex and rdd ?
[16:55] <HeXiLeD> Jack_Sparrow: he is on the admin group . shouldnt he have admin rights soon he enters that group ?
[16:55] <chaii> i tried ... for weeks now. no go. the Grub thing always appears
[16:55] <zanberdo> chaii: if you intented to preserve your windows installation then yes, that was a mistake
[16:56] <Wires> I dont do if I do or not.. I just installed ubuntu a fewdays ago.. n im a new *nix user as well
[16:56] <Jack_Sparrow> HeXiLeD it works from your original user account correct?
[16:56] <HeXiLeD> yes
[16:56] <Treeh416> scunizi, It's automatically uninstalling other version
[16:56] <odinsbane> wires type sudo apt-get install bison flex gcc
[16:56] <scunizi> Treeh416, cool..
[16:56] <chaii> right now i cant install windows over ubuntu
[16:56] <odinsbane> wires you probably also need the gcc-dev package
[16:56] <zanberdo> chaii: grub is a boot manager and it's written to the MBR (master boot record).  If you were to install windows it will (without fail) overwrite the MBR with it's own boot manager.
[16:56] <Jack_Sparrow> HeXiLeD I am just waking up so...  gimme a few minutes to have some coffee and get brain started
[16:56] <Wires> ok
[16:57] <Wires> what are all these packages?
[16:57] <Nitricacid> Anyone know how to remove the periods generated by Kate (the txt editor) any and all help would be nice :)
[16:57] <HeXiLeD> Jack_Sparrow:
[16:57] <HeXiLeD> ok
[16:57] <istanbul27erk> does ubuntu support usb webcam immediately or i have to find drivers?
[16:57] <istanbul27erk> does ubuntu support usb webcam immediately or i have to find drivers?
[16:57] <zanberdo> chaii: you must install windows from scratch if you are to replace the ubuntu installation that you have already installed (if I'm understanding your reuqirements correctly)
[16:57] <Wires> is it called gcc-dev? couldnt find it
[16:58] <Nitricacid> istanbul27erk: u need drivers
[16:58] <odinsbane> did you install the other three ?
[16:58] <o7andrew> any idea how I can get around a <ata 1.00 excception .. frozen> boot error guys (I've only got a 20 minute boot and can't use ubuntu> I'm bummed)
[16:58] <Jack_Sparrow> istanbul27erk depends on your choice of hardware
[16:58] <istanbul27erk> thanx nitricacid
[16:58] <Nitricacid> istanbul27erk:  try Cheese
[16:59] <Jack_Sparrow> chaii Are you running ubuntu right now?
[16:59] <Nitricacid> Anyone know how to remove the periods generated by Kate (the txt editor)?
[16:59] <bannaN> Is there any recommanded programs for scanning for wireless networks?
[16:59] <Treeh416> scunizi, I needhelp
[16:59] <Treeh416> scunizi,  It's not working...
[16:59] <backslash7> Hi all.
[16:59] <chaii> i did. i tried to boot from cd many times. no go. it would direct me to the ubuntu desktop even if it;s a boot from cd. and there is an option to install windows but it would only start in COllecting information Page and would not go through...
[16:59] <o7andrew> aye man"
[17:00] <odinsbane> Wires I don't kow if there is a dev package for it.
[17:00] <Treeh416> scunizi,  After it asked me for the location of the directoryC header files
[17:00] <chaii> jack_sparrow: yes
[17:00] <Treeh416> scunizi,  It tried to build them...and then aborted
[17:00] <Jack_Sparrow> chaii  Please try this in a term for me..  sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cp /etc/fstab ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && sudo fdisk -l >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt | pastebinit  (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[17:00] <Wires> hmm
[17:00] <Wires> what does the stdlib error mean?
[17:00] <Itaku> there a program to stream music to shoutcast?
[17:00] <backslash7> I would like to have all my e-mails on my ubuntu server so I can fetch it from my computer and my laptop. I don't wanna have a new mail account on my server, just collect the mails
[17:00] <o7andrew> any idea how I can get around a <ata 1.00 excception .. frozen> boot error guys (I've only got a 20 minute boot and can't use ubuntu> I'm bummed)
[17:00] <chaii> ok
[17:00] <Jack_Sparrow> o7andrew did this install ever work?
[17:00] <zanberdo> chaii: firstly, are you sure you are booting from cd and second, is the cd you are booting from a windows cd?  Again, to clarify, your goal is to remove ubuntu and install windows...
[17:00] <Wires> I guess I'll try a previous version of lm_sensors then
[17:00] <william_> for adobe flash player should i use .tar.gz for linux
[17:01] <chaii> zanberdo: yes and yes.
[17:01] <scunizi> Treeh416, you didn't change anything did you?  build-essential is the package that provides all that compiling stuff
[17:01] <odinsbane> wires it is a config type error, it usually means you are missing a build dependency
[17:01] <Treeh416> scunizi, didn't change anything
[17:01] <chaii> and yes.
[17:01] <odinsbane> did you install flex, bison and gcc after you do that it might take card of the build dependency
[17:01] <Nitricacid> GUI for editing Grub? Heron hardy ubuntu, anyone?
[17:01] <backslash7> Anyone please?
[17:01] <backslash7> I would like to have all my e-mails on my ubuntu server so I can fetch it from my computer and my laptop. I don't wanna have a new mail account on my server, just collect the mails
[17:01] <Treeh416> scunizi, i'll redownload it...ugg...
[17:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Nitricacid nope
[17:01] <zanberdo> chaii: check out what Jack_Sparrow has to suggest then... cause if you are booting from cd and it's a windows cd I have no clue how it could be booting to ubuntu
[17:01] <bannaN> Is there any recommanded programs for scanning for wireless networks? so you get a visual perspektive on the networks you can connect to
[17:01] <Wires> I gotcha
[17:02] <Wires> ok, well let me try a previous version
[17:02] <scunizi> bannaN, wifi radar
[17:02] <Wires> btw also, what's the gcc-dev package?
[17:02] <muhkuh_> hi people i alway get segfauts all the time on different programs i run ich checked my ram with memtest86 and it told me it is broken so i bought a new one but the segfaults aren't gone
[17:02] <chaii> ok
[17:02] <Wires> sorry for all the questions.. but that's the way to learn I guess :P
[17:02] <Itaku> there a program to stream music to shoutcast?
[17:02] <josspyker> bannaN: rutilt
[17:02] <Wikipedo> i hate niggers
[17:02] <odinsbane> Wires I don't think there is one.  I found back when I had to compile packages that if I installed a program I needed the -dev package too.
[17:02] <scunizi> Itaku, never used it.. but maybe icecast
[17:02] <Nitricacid> Itaku: that would be winamp :)
[17:02] <bijur> hey all :)
[17:02] <Itaku> !language | Wikipedo
[17:03] <DataTransmute> Is it just me or does ubuntuforums.org not work?
[17:03] <Itaku> Nitricacid: how about a linux app?
[17:03] <Wires> well I mean, what's a dev package?
[17:03] <Nitricacid> anything that can handle the shoutcast plugin
[17:03] <zanberdo> DataTransmute: it appears they were/are down
[17:03] <scunizi> Itaku, also pulse audio has a streaming server built in .. don't know how to activate it though
[17:03] <backslash7> UBUNTU SERVER: COLLECT MAILS. How ?
[17:03] <bijur> Wires: a dev package is something that's not been released yet
[17:03] <Wires> ahh
[17:03] <bijur> or has release level bugs logged against them
[17:03] <Jack_Sparrow> backslash7 please lose the caps
[17:03] <Wires> ok
[17:03] <zanberdo> backslash7: have you checked google?
[17:04] <bijur> backslash7: collect mails using a mail transport agent
[17:04] <o7andrew> Jack_Sparrow: I just ran live and bummed out, do you think it might be a good idea to wait the half-hour, install and see if the boot problem resolves?
[17:04] <odinsbane> Wires I would stick to the 3.0.2 because that is for linux 2.6 kernels
[17:04] <DataTransmute> @ zanberdo, thank you.
[17:04] <muhkuh_> what else can it be it has to be a hard ware problem cause it is the same on debian and windows
[17:04] <Wires> ok
[17:04] <william_> im a total newb for adobe flash player should i use .rpm for linux or .tar.gz for linux
[17:04] <odinsbane> Wires read the Makefile too.
[17:04] <Wires> then hmm.. what should I do?
[17:04] <bijur> backslash7: u can use postfix , a simpler tool or something like qmail
[17:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !fsck | o7andrew
[17:04] <zanberdo> DataTransmute: let us know when they are back up... :)
[17:04] <Treeh416> Hey guys i need help
[17:04] <Jack_Sparrow> o7andrew dont fsck a mounted drive..
[17:04] <Treeh416> I can't get my wifi adapter to maintain an internet connetion
[17:04] <DataTransmute> Does anyone have 8.04 problem of having music working but no sound comes from firefox3b5 or firefox-2?
[17:05] <Treeh416> after running sudo dhclient wlan0 it dies after about 5 seconds
[17:05] <Treeh416> any ideas?
[17:05] <bijur> william_: u can search this in the ubuntu forum. rpm is redhat package manager
[17:05] <josspyker> Treeh416: what chipset?
[17:05] <Treeh416> josspyker,  U.S. Robotics something
[17:05] <bijur> william_: debian/ubuntu uses .deb
[17:05] <Intelligitimate> My computer is refusing an SSH connection. How do I fix this problem from the command line?
[17:05] <backslash7> bijur: Okay, I'll google qmail
[17:05] <o7andrew> jack_interesting...
[17:05] <Treeh416> josspyker,  It was fine before...lasted forever
[17:05] <odinsbane> Treeh416 what do you mean dies?
[17:05] <Jack_Sparrow> o7andrew just a thought
[17:05] <bijur> william_ L u should be using apt-get install flashplayer
[17:05] <william_> bi jur thanks man
[17:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !flash
[17:06] <stroyan> Wires:  Actually, a -dev package is the stuff needed to develop applications using a particular library.  The plain package like 'tcl' is just run-time support for using a library.  The -dev like 'tcl-dev' is for creating apps using tcl.
[17:06] <warior> so one more try, any admin here
[17:06] <Treeh416> odinsbane, litteraly it dies
[17:06] <DataTransmute> ubuntuforums.org works!
[17:06] <bijur> backslash7: if u r new to qmail, i'd suggest dont. by the way do u have a public domain for this machine?
[17:06] <Wires> I gotcha
[17:06] <bijur> williams_: no problemo boss
[17:06] <o7andrew> i'll check that 4sure, i'd love to be part of the *buntu community, its really great
[17:06] <warior> muhehehe he database has encountered a problem. :D
[17:06] <odinsbane> Treeh416 where does it say it dies?  Do you mean you can view webpages?
[17:06] <muhkuh_> what is causing  (hardware) segmentation-faults ?
[17:06] <bijur> warrior: what are u looking for?
[17:06] <stroyan> Wires:  You can see what a package is using 'apt-cache show packagename'
[17:07] <DataTransmute> down again ><
[17:07] <Intelligitimate> My computer is refusing an SSH connection. How do I fix this problem from the command line?
[17:07] <Treeh416> odinsbane, the connection dies...cant view pages
[17:07] <dbmoodb> Intelligitimate: what kind what does it say -- the key has changed or ?
[17:07] <odinsbane> Treeh416 can you ping the router?
[17:07] <bijur> intelligitimate: the problm cud be many, it cud be because u dont have sshd installed
[17:07] <dragonlotus> hey anyone have experience with linksys usb wireless N adapteres?  I'm trying to configure ubuntu to use it.  I'm wondering if I should go the "download XP driver, use ndiswrapper" route?
[17:07] <warior> bijur: I'm warior not warrior :D but, thing is that there is worng md5 checksum in opessl-blacklist-7.10xxx
[17:07] <bijur> Intelligitimate : please simplify ur name!
[17:07] <backslash7> Is there no All-In-One package to collect mails from different accounts in Ubuntu? bijur: No, I don't. Private little LAN-Server
[17:07] <dbmoodb> dragonlotus: most probably
[17:07] <Treeh416> odinsbane, yes
[17:07] <bijur> warior: download again mate
[17:08] <warior> bijur: so I can't dist-upgrade to 7.10
[17:08] <bijur> warior: apologies
[17:08] <Wires> no packages found
[17:08] <dbmoodb> the only usb wifi that i know that works with linux is the rt73 which is not n
[17:08] <warior> bijur: downloaded maybe 20 times :)
[17:08] <bijur> warior: why not to 8.04?  ;)
[17:08] <dragonlotus> dbmoodb: do you have experience using ndiswrapper?  does it work well with any dockapps?
[17:08] <Intell> dbmoodb, "connection refused"
[17:08] <bijur> warior: then try some other server
[17:08] <warior> bijur: you should upgrade in sequence
[17:08] <odinsbane> Treeh416 so when your connection dies you can ping your router and you get a response time?
[17:08] <Treeh416> odinsbane, yes
[17:08] <warior> bijur: as written on ubuntu site :)
[17:08] <bijur> Intell: if its connection refused try to see if u r using the correct port
[17:08] <dbmoodb> dragonlotus: no i don't like windows so i avoid widnows drivers
[17:08] <backslash7> bijur: Any idea ?
[17:08] <lostchild> hi all
[17:08] <o7andrew> aye man"
[17:09] <lostchild> can anyone help me with apt-gt giving me unmet dependencies error?
[17:09] <Intell> It's over port 22.
[17:09] <odinsbane> Treeh416 Then you router has fallen off of the internet, I fix that by unplugging the thing and pluging it back in.
[17:09] <backslash7> "
[17:09] <Treeh416> odinsbane, When I go into manual confi, and give it the ip, subnet,m gateway myself nothing happens. but if I then go to roaming after that and then do sudo dhclient wlan0 it lasts for 5seconds
[17:09] <lostchild> I tried to install one application, that gave me unmet dependencies
[17:09] <stroyan> Wires:  packagename was a placeholder where you put the package name that you care about.  'apt-cache show tcl'
[17:09] <Treeh416> odinsbane, No, I'm using it rightnow XD
[17:09] <lostchild> but now I dont want to install that app any more
[17:09] <dragonlotus> dbmoodb: If only we were all so lucky.  Thankyou, however, for your advice and I'll try that asap.
[17:09] <Treeh416> odinsbane,  how else would I be talking to you :P?
[17:09] <Wires> jesus my bad.. didnt even read it before i copied and pasted
[17:09] <Billenium> When i put in the LiveCD it boots and then stops at Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local/)... [OK]
[17:09] <backslash7> ...................
[17:09] <odinsbane> Treeh416 I don't know
[17:09] <DataTransmute> Does anyone know why no sound plays in firefox when amarok is open (even if not playing)
[17:09] <Treeh416> odinsbane,  ugg :(
[17:09] <lostchild> but after that, every time I want to install any new application, it still comes up with that error.
[17:09] <bijur> backslash7: if u r trying to collect public mail to this server, u ll need a public domain so that the servers outside can know where to send their mail to
[17:09] <Treeh416> odinsbane, can we try troubleshooting it from the top like last time?
[17:10] <odinsbane> Treeh416 don't do the manual config.
[17:10] <Treeh416> odinsbane,  thats how i got it to work
[17:10] <Wires> k, what am I looking for?
[17:10] <odinsbane> Treeh416 do you have a gui program running?
[17:10] <bijur> backslash7: if u r looking for a mail client u have the all in one evolution which can receive exchange/pop3/imap mails
[17:10] <Treeh416> odinsbane,  wi-fi radaR?
[17:10] <o7andrew> evolution's pretty good
[17:10] <Georgij> Hello
[17:10] <odinsbane> Treeh416 turn that off.
[17:10] <backslash7> bijur: I'm looking for a method like: The server fetches the mail from some PHP3-Accounts and deliver them to me / I can get them in the LAN from my server
[17:10] <o7andrew> aye man"
[17:11] <bijur> odinsbane: if u r using wpa use wpagui is a good tool
[17:11] <Georgij> Is it possible to dual boot with Windows Vista
[17:11] <Treeh416> odinsbane, uninstall?
[17:11] <Hunter> good day all
[17:11] <backslash7> bijur: No mail client no ^^
[17:11] <Georgij> so I can do windows gaming?
[17:11] <odinsbane> Treeh416 no
[17:11] <lostchild> can anybody help me?
[17:11] <dbmoodb> yes you can Georgij
[17:11] <lostchild> please?
[17:11] <stroyan> Wires:  I missed the start of your question.  I was just helping with 'what are all these packages?'
[17:11] <dbmoodb> but some games will run under ubuntu
[17:11] <Treeh416> odinsbane, don't know hot to turn it off
[17:11] <Georgij> dbmoodb is it easy do I just have to create a new partion then install vista?
[17:11] <Georgij> is it that simple?
[17:11] <Wires> ah
[17:11] <odinsbane> Treeh416 right click on it and exit.
[17:11] <dbmoodb> there are a few guides
[17:11] <Wires> I'm trying to compile lm_sensors
[17:11] <dbmoodb> !vista
[17:12] <bijur> backslash7: aaaaah! sure man, just use an email server on ur server which keeps popping the mails from pop3 and then fwd's it via its sendmail/postfix to ur local server, wud be much faster to access that way! bravo!
[17:12] <Wires> and im getting make: *** No rule to make target `stdlib.h', needed by `prog/dump/superio.rd'.  Stop.
[17:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub | Georgij
[17:12] <Georgij> But this is also Linux related
[17:12] <dbmoodb> see that and do some googling
[17:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !dualboot
[17:12] <dbmoodb> apcmag has an old walkthought -- does he need to do something special in hardy ?
[17:12] <Geoffrey2> I'm getting a fatal error when trying to install virtualbox-ose-guest-modules-2.6.24-16-generic 24, "Error inserting vboxadd (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/misc/vboxadd.ko): No such device"
[17:12] <Treeh416> odinsbane, oh..i thought it was running it the backgorund...ok done
[17:12] <bijur> man! this room sure scrolls damn fast
[17:12] <bijur> iam finding it difficult to catch up
[17:12] <Georgij> Will I lose grub after installing Vista?
[17:13] <backslash7> bijur: lol why u so lucky now? ^^ hehe anyways... I'm looking for the simplest ones, easy and fast to setup, I don't need much options, just give me the mail ^^
[17:13] <jope> i'm trying to get a dell inspiron 1525 wireless connection set up when i run lshw i see network unclaimed and the info listed with configuration: latency=0 anyone able to help me get it started pls?
[17:13] <backslash7> Thanks for your resonse bijur
[17:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Georgij yes, as I pointed out with the bot
[17:13] <odinsbane> now try the sudo dhlcient wlan0
[17:13] <Hunter> I cant seem to get device drivers working, already tried all help steps...
[17:13] <stroyan> Wires:  You need 'sudo apt-get build-dep lm-sensors' .  That takes advantage of the list of build dependencies in the lm-sensors package.
[17:13] <bijur> backslash7:: no problemo boss!
[17:13] <o7andrew> Georgij: you should back up data, resize harddrive &or add a partition &or swap partition and install linux last (like always)
[17:13] <bzaks> Ever since I've upgraded to HH, I have been unable to get my synergy clients to talk... did I do something wrong?
[17:13] <U-Gutsy-Gibbon> any ideas how ti fixed this, /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl
[17:13] <U-Gutsy-Gibbon> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[17:13] <Hunter> my wireless doesnt showup at all
[17:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Georgij you would be better off installing vista on the first partition then installing ubuntu again
[17:13] <bijur> my emacs is scrolling scrolling scrolling
[17:13] <Georgij> If I place all my files in the hd i am using to boot linux then install vista on my other hd then?
[17:13] <Lynet> Georgij: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Vista will clobber your MBR so you need to reinstall grub.
[17:13] <stroyan> Wires:  Or you could just install the prebuild lm-sensors package.
[17:13] <backslash7> bijur: Can you say a simple one? Easy to set up I mean ?
[17:14] <bijur> my emacs is scrolling upto the erc!
[17:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Georgij read the bot link on dual booting
[17:14] <Georgij> Wait
[17:14] <Georgij> I have 2 hds
[17:14] <Georgij> if I install vista on the other hd
[17:14] <Wires> so say that again stroyan, what does that command do?
[17:14] <jope> anyone able to help pls?
[17:14] <bijur> backslash7: i think postfix wud be able to do it. but i am not sure if it'dbe that easy to configure. sorry man, i havent tried doing this, though this has always been on my agenda
[17:14] <Georgij> It wont remove grub?
[17:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask | jope
[17:15] <odinsbane> Stroyan that works nicely is here a deb package lm_sensors?
[17:15] <bijur> jope: whats the matter?
[17:15] <jope> i aksed and no one repliied, sorry
[17:15] <backslash7> okay bijur thanks anyway..
[17:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Georgij it also wont wokr.. please read the help page on dual boot
[17:15] <chaii> jack_sparrow: this is the result -- > cp: cannot create regular file `/Desktop/Partition_layout.txt && \nsudo apt-get install pastebinit && cp /etc/fstab /Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt': No such file or directory
[17:15] <bijur> np
[17:15] <Verndog> Is the ubuntu forums down or is my end?
[17:15] <bijur> jope: try installing wpasupplicant and wpagui
[17:15] <Georgij> Jack_Sparrow I just read it now why are u giving me false information
[17:15] <bijur> there needs to be a file wpa_supplicant.conf in /etc/wpa_supplicant/ dir
[17:15] <Treeh416> Is anyone here really good at networking???
[17:15] <HeXiLeD> Jack_Sparrow: so any ideas ?
[17:16] <jope> bijur:oh ok thanks
[17:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Georgij what is falser about it
[17:16] <Georgij> It said if I have 2 hds it wont affect my grub
[17:16] <odinsbane> Treeh416 did you try dhclient again?
[17:16] <Jack_Sparrow> HeXiLeD still waiting for coffee
[17:16] <Georgij> If I install in the hd I dont have Ubuntu and Grub in
[17:16] <bijur> Treeh416: u just need a solution dont you? why do u need to know if anyone is good at it :))
[17:16] <Treeh416> odinsbane, Yes...it only works if you do the manual, THEN roaming, then dhclient...thjen it lasts for 5 seconds
[17:16] <Treeh416> bijur, Ok, that works too!
[17:16] <anirudh0> Geoffrey2, lol
[17:16] <anirudh0> Geoffrey2, sorry...not for you
[17:16] <Treeh416> bijur, Basically...I can't connect. Dhclient doesn'twork
[17:17] <anirudh0> Georgij, lol
[17:17] <Treeh416> bijur, I did get it working before...then restarted...and it died
[17:17] <bijur> Treeh416: two things, ur dhcp client cud be an old version, which with ubuntu i think is unlikely
[17:17] <odinsbane> Treeh416 I don't understand where you are setting your gateway and the like.
[17:17] <bijur> treeh416: secondis are u on wireless?
[17:17] <Hunter> Is using that wubi installer a good idea when installing to usb drives?
[17:17] <Jack_Sparrow> chaii did you paste that command just as I gave it to you
[17:18] <odinsbane> Treeh416 if you use dhclient and it gives you an ip address then dhclient worked
[17:18] <eight_> hi! how do I change gnome's GUI language?
[17:18] <anirudh0> Hunter, AFAIK...no
[17:18] <Treeh416> odinsbane, It does give me my ip
[17:18] <bijur> eight_: System -> Admin -> Language
[17:18] <Treeh416> bijur, wireless
[17:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Hunter read the faq on wubi carefully.. and no I would not use wubi to install to a usb
[17:18] <Hunter> thx
[17:18] <eight_> bijur, thanks
[17:18] <bijur> Treeh416: what are u using to connect? wpa? the system -> admin -> Network ?
[17:18] <anirudh0> eight_, selecting a session language in the gdm menu should so the trick
[17:18] <Treeh416> bijur, when I use dhclient i get my ip...but it stilldoesn't work
[17:18] <Wips> !grub
[17:18] <Hunter> it works fine, but no wifi
[17:18] <odinsbane> Treeh416 then where are you setting your gateway, it sounds like you have two programs setting up your wireless.  So one dhclient works then you have another program overide it.
[17:19] <Treeh416> bijur, yes
[17:19] <Treeh416> odinsbane, But i haven'tinstall anything
[17:19] <bijur> treeh416: what does ur ifconfig give you for you wlan0?
[17:19] <Verndog> Were there problems with ubuntu forum servers?
[17:19] <stroyan> Wires: That command will install the packages that are recorded as dependencies to build the lm-sensors package from source.
[17:19] <odinsbane> Treeh416 also are you sure you are logging onto your router.
[17:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Verndog ubuntu-server
[17:19] <Wires> I gotcha
[17:19] <jope> bijur: i ran apt get install for those, wpasupp was already there, but it installed wpagui. ive just looked and that file isnt in wpasupplicant
[17:19] <sparr> My HP OfficeJet Pro 7590 printer seems to need the HPLIP driver/backend...  How can I make that work?
[17:19] <bijur> Treeh416: also do u have wpa? or wep?
[17:19] <Treeh416> bijur, Ip config oens't work for me
[17:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Verndog sorry, I may have misread that
[17:20] <Treeh416> bijur,  no encryption
[17:20] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl, time for coffee
[17:20] <Treeh416> bijur, terminal doesn't recognize ipconfig as a command
[17:20] <Wires> same error, stroyan
[17:20] <Treeh416> odinsbane,  yeah...it can see my router
[17:20] <odinsbane> Treeh416 it is ifconfig in linux
[17:20] <bijur> jope, run sudo wpagui from ur user account and scan for wireless networks and add the correct ones, its a breeze from then on
[17:20] <Treeh416> odinsbane,  and it says it connected to it
[17:20] <Treeh416> bijur,  oh if config
[17:20] <odinsbane> Treeh416 what says connected to it?
[17:20] <Treeh416> odinsbane,  the little icon on the top right
[17:21] <bijur> treeh416: if ifconfig doesnt work, then u have some big problem, try doing a /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:21] <Verndog> For an hour I couldn't get into the ubuntu forum. Now I can. Just curious if anyone else had problem?
[17:21] <Treeh416> bijur, umm ifconfig gives me a bigass block of text
[17:21] <jope> it says command not found
[17:21] <odinsbane> Treeh416 right click on that little icon and close it.
[17:21] <Treeh416> odinsbane,  you can't
[17:21] <bijur> Treeh416: look whether u have an ip under wlan0
[17:21] <Treeh416> odinsbane,  only "Enable networking", "Enable Wireless",etc
[17:21] <Treeh416> bijur, ...nope
[17:21] <bijur> yep, thats ur pblm
[17:21] <stroyan> Wires:  I need to leave now.  Good luck.
[17:21] <Wires> alright, cya
[17:22] <jope> verndog: i cldnt access forums but did look at cahed results in google
[17:22] <bijur> its easier if u r going to just install wpa_gui and run it as sudo wpagui and scan for networks and connect
[17:22] <jope> cached
[17:22] <jope> bijur: i did apt-get install of wpagui but it says sudo wpagui command nto found
[17:23] <Verndog> It's probably a local issue. I'm in California, USA, West Coast
[17:23] <odinsbane> Treeh416 disable wireless
[17:23] <Treeh416> odinsbane, done
[17:23] <anirudh0> Treeh416, it might be useful to paste your ifconfig output somewhere
[17:23] <bijur> jope : huh! u sure wpa_gui is installed?
[17:23] <hume> hi...i've got a problem with ssh auto authorization - I have generated keys, and coiped from client to server, added the pub key to authorized_keys2, but still need to type password to authenticate - anyone can help?
[17:23] <bijur> jope: i am installing it right now, will detail u the thing
[17:24] <Treeh416> anirudh0, why?
[17:24] <odinsbane> Treeh416 if you do sudo dhclient wlan0   ...and you get an ip then do ifconfig and wlan0 should have a field inet address #ip
[17:24] <bijur> hume: ofcourse you need a password to login
[17:24] <jope> bijur: thanks yes i ran apt-get install wpagui
[17:24] <bijur> the pgp keys u generated are used to encrypt ur data streams
[17:24] <kilps> hi ... does anyone know much about dual monitors with intel graphics cards? everytime i set this up ubuntu reverts to cloned monitors...
[17:24] <hume> bijur, of course idont when sharing the key to the server, that is the whole point
[17:24] <Treeh416> odinsbane, It says DHCPREQUEST of XXXXXX (myip)
[17:25] <bijur> jope give me a few minutes, i am installing wpagui myself to check it out
[17:25] <odinsbane> Treeh416 that is not finished.
[17:25] <jope> bijur: ok thanks i ran command again just to be suure but says already installed
[17:25] <bijur> Treeh416: dude! ur ipconfig is fine!! leave ur dhcp thats not ur trouble :D
[17:25] <warior> bijur: it was problem only on local mirror, thanks, and bye
[17:25] <Wires> so.. has anyone been reading my problem?
[17:25] <Treeh416> odinsbane,  It's asking to display 1936 possibility
[17:26] <bijur> Treeh416: goto System -> Admin -> Network and click on Wireless Network and setup the ssid etc on it and try restarting ur network it wud work
[17:26] <Treeh416> bijur,  then what is it:S?
[17:26] <odinsbane> Wires did you do the sudo apt-get build-dep ln-sensors
[17:26] <bijur> warior: fortune favours the brave ;)
[17:26] <odinsbane> Treeh416 ?
[17:26] <chaii> yes
[17:27] <bijur> chaii: coffee milega?
[17:27] <jope> bijur is parent with loads of children all wanting his attention at the same time
[17:27] <bijur> w00t! :))
[17:27] <Billenium> Whenever i boot from the LiveCD my machine stops at Running Local Boot Scripts... [OK]
[17:27] <Psyco_Chipmunk1> Hello
[17:27] <Billenium> How do i fix this?
[17:27] <Intell> My computer is refusing an SSH connection. How do I fix this problem from the command line?
[17:28] <Psyco_Chipmunk1> Hey, could someone tell me how to install this file?  AdobeReader_enu-8.1.2-1.i486.rpm and its on my desktop
[17:28] <odinsbane> Treeh416 when I do dhclient I get a whole bunch of stuff and it is finished when it says...bound to ip ... and some time in seconds.
[17:28] <chaii> cp: cannot create regular file `/Desktop/Partition_layout.txt && \nsudo apt-get install pastebinit && cp /etc/fstab /Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt': No such file or directory
[17:28] <chaii>     <--- this is the result
[17:28] <bijur> Billenium: try running the same boot cd in another comp to see if its a pblm with the cd, else try to get a more later version of the distro
[17:28] <robg_> Billenium: are you keeping your finger on the boot options key (F8) during the CD boot ?
[17:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Psyco_Chipmunk1 you don install rpms
[17:28] <Treeh416> bijur,  didn't work
[17:28] <anirudh1> Intell, you mean an ssh server on your computer refuses connections?
[17:28] <odinsbane> Intell did you isntall openssh-server ?
[17:28] <Treeh416> odinsbane, Yeah..for me myconnection only works when it says seconds
[17:28] <Billenium> bijur: i  was afraid of this, but im pretty sure it is the CD drive
[17:28] <Billenium> and yes robg_ its booting from the CD
[17:29] <bijur> Treeh416: its either that way or the wpa_gui way which is easier, wait i am trying to install it , system is suddenly slow
[17:29] <Psyco_Chipmunk1> Jack_Sparrow:  well, what do i do with it then?
[17:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Billenium try this  At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[17:29] <Treeh416> bijur,  ok
[17:29] <bijur> the german servers are quite slow now, i guess everyone in Germany just woke up
[17:29] <bijur> sigh
[17:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Psyco_Chipmunk1 You take the rpm and move it to trash
[17:29] <robg_> Billenium and others: when booting from a CD you MUST keep your finger on the F8 key to force the machine to boot from CD.
[17:29] <Treeh416> bijur, it's 6:31pm in germany XD
[17:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !rpm
[17:29] <bijur> Psycho_chipmunk: u take the rpm and run alien on it to convert to a .deb
[17:30] <odinsbane> Treeh416 What I think is happening is you have the gui program setting your gateway incorrectly that is why I thought you should turn off the gui stuff and set it up using dhclinet and then trying ifconfig to make sure you have an inet address.
[17:30] <Jack_Sparrow> bijur not a good idea
[17:30] <Psyco_Chipmunk1> Shoot
[17:30] <Psyco_Chipmunk1> ok
[17:30] <jope> psyco: there is a guide for adobe here http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-ubuntu-8.04-lts-hardy-heron-p4
[17:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Psyco_Chipmunk1 I am sure adobe has a deb..
[17:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !pdf
[17:30] <Psyco_Chipmunk1> well that sucks, anyone know how to get adobe reader for ubuntu?
[17:30] <Treeh416> odinsbane,  but if you turn of the gui you turn off wireless networking
[17:30] <jope> psyco: i just gave u link
[17:30] <anirudh1> Psyco_Chipmunk1, get deb from adobe site
[17:30] <jope> http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-ubuntu-8.04-lts-hardy-heron-p4
[17:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Psyco_Chipmunk1 let me look for deb
[17:31] <Intell> Well, I tried blind-typing it, odinsbane. I have no freaking clue though, because fireglconfig destroyed something on my motherboard that allows anything to be output to the monitor. So I have no clue. The people at the manufacturer basically told me to F myself on not wiping my hard drive, and I can't physically connect the hard drive to another computer, because the connections aren't the same, so I am desperately trying to get data
[17:31] <Intell> off this computer without the benefit of being able to even see anything.
[17:31] <Psyco_Chipmunk1> Jack_Sparrow: ok
[17:31] <jope> psyco: third time: link here http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-ubuntu-8.04-lts-hardy-heron-p4
[17:32] <Wips> Is there a command in terminal to see the current partitions?
[17:32] <odinsbane> Treeh416 I don't have any wireless gui's running.
[17:32] <ragsagar> mount
[17:32] <anirudh1> Wips, df
[17:32] <Treeh416> odinsbane,  Huh..ok...ill try
[17:32] <HymnToLife> those will show only the mouned filesystems
[17:32] <anirudh1> Wips, or "cat /etc/mtab"
[17:32] <ragsagar> Wips : mount
[17:32] <bijur> Wips : fdisk -l
[17:33] <HymnToLife> fdisk -l
[17:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Psyco_Chipmunk1 http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2_allversions.html       but select *.deb under linux version and you are good to go
[17:33] <bijur> anirudh: that shows only the mounted filesystems
[17:33] <anirudh1> bijur, yes
[17:34] <bijur> :)
[17:34] <Psyco_Chipmunk1> Jack_Sparrow:  COOL, TKS
[17:34] <ian_liu88> hi
[17:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Psyco_Chipmunk1 np, glad to help
[17:35] <Target> hi people
[17:35] <ian_liu88> Where do I find the file 'libmp3lame.so' so I can use with Audacity to encode OGG to MP3?
[17:35] <jlc> Will someone help me get lightscribe working on 8.04 x64?
[17:35] <Target> I have some probs installing ATI radeon 9200 drivers
[17:35] <ragsagar> !google | ian_liu88
[17:36] <bijur> jope: when i ran sudo wpa_gui it ran like a charm :)
[17:36] <odinsbane> ian_liu88 start synaptic and search for lame.
[17:36] <bijur> jope: oh it cud be because of this
[17:36] <ian_liu88> odinsbane: I already have lame installed
[17:36] <bijur> jope: there is a file wpa_supplicant.conf, check to see if u have the following setup in it
[17:37] <ian_liu88> odinsbane: maybe I should install lame devel?
[17:37] <bijur> jope : this : update_config=1
[17:37] <anirudh1> ian_liu88, install mencoder...it'll pull in all dependencies
[17:37] <astro76> ian_liu88: apt-get install liblame0
[17:37] <odinsbane> ian_liu88 sure, what program is looking for liblame...
[17:37] <jope> bijur ok thanks ill look
[17:37] <Clapper> will the installer cd let me boot to a "live" environment?  I want to do this to backup my current installation, which can not be mounted, before I install Ubuntu on the same disc...
[17:37] <ian_liu88> odinsbane: Audacity
[17:37] <jimmyg00n> How can I check what is using the disk so that I may be able to eject it?
[17:38] <U-Gutsy-Gibbon> hello, how much time do it approximately needs to upgrade
[17:38] <bijur> jope: also, it might not have ran for u cos i think i said wpagui, the run command is sudo wpa_gui &
[17:38] <ian_liu88> odinsbane: Did it ;)
[17:38] <ian_liu88> Thanks everyone
[17:38] <Clapper> ﻿will the installer cd let me boot to a "live" environment?  I want to do this to backup my current installation, which can not be mounted, before I install Ubuntu on the same disc...
[17:39] <jimmyg00n> Clapper: if you have the normal desktop iso, yes, if you have the alternate disc, no
[17:39] <jlc> Will someone please help me get light scribe working on 8.04 x64?
[17:39] <xintron> How do I install mono using apt-get?
[17:39] <bijur> Treeh416: try using wpa_gui, is a nice tool, cud solve ur trouble instead of going through the textmode stuff
[17:39] <acegikmo> anyone able to give me a hand with getting the xorg config for my thinkpad right?
[17:39] <bzaks> exit
[17:39] <bzaks> oops
[17:39] <bijur> xintron: apt-get install mono
[17:39] <jimmyg00n> xintron: "sudo apt-get install mono"
[17:39] <xintron> bijur: Nope, doesn't work
[17:39] <Treeh416> bijur,  where do i get it
[17:39] <anirudh1> acegikmo, whats your thinkpad model?
[17:39] <bijur> xinton: ofcourse u need to get it from its repos
[17:40] <Billenium> Jack_Sparrow: the noacpi almost worked... It flickered saying Running Local Boot scripts (as usual) then it asked me to run my graphics on low (as usual) then it ran a few commands (not as usual) and stopped at Running Local Boot Scripts.
[17:40] <Clapper> normal desktop-  yes.  Also, will the live cd recognize my current software raid array, like my current installation does?  I'll be backing up onto that.
[17:40] <jope> bijur: ok i ran sudo wpa_gui and it says failed to open control connection to wpa_supplicant
[17:40] <DIL> hey all, after upgrading to 8.04 i cannot connect to my windows share - it says already mounted but i cannot see where it is connected no access to files- any hints appreciated
[17:40] <astro76> jimmyg00n: fuser -m mountpoint
[17:40] <jimmyg00n> astro76: thanks a bunch
[17:40] <bijur> jope: thas cos wpa_supplicant is running i think
[17:40] <acegikmo> ﻿anirudh1: r61i It's using the intel X3100 GMA which is giving me some trouble
[17:40] <killerboy_> is there any graphical interface to apt-file in ubuntu?
[17:40] <jimmyg00n> astro76: what do I do with the result then :O
[17:41] <killerboy_> i'd like to find files in not installed packages
[17:41] <bijur> jope: do a /etc/init.d/networking restart and then open wpa_gui
[17:41] <Clapper> ﻿will the live cd recognize my current software raid array, like my current installation does?
[17:41] <astro76> jimmyg00n: kill them, they are PIDs
[17:41] <bijur> lol the X3100 saga
[17:41] <odinsbane> DIL have you tried just typing 'mount'
[17:41] <anirudh1> acegikmo, this should help http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Graphics_Media_Accelerator_X3100
[17:41] <bijur> the X3100 is a banned card for compiz
[17:41] <jimmyg00n> astro76: I got "11278c" back :/
[17:41] <bijur> to get glx working on this card, u need to install the libxxxx-drm
[17:42] <astro76> jimmyg00n: for more verbosity, fuser -mv
[17:42] <DIL> odinsbane: i am using connect to server (samba)
[17:42] <bijur> do an apt-cache search drm and install the libxxx-drm for it
[17:42] <astro76> bijur: not in Hardy
[17:42] <astro76> bijur: .. X3100
[17:42] <chaii> ;(
[17:42] <bijur> astro : i dinn get u
[17:42] <acegikmo> my only problem out o the box is running 3d stuff in wine
[17:42] <jimmyg00n> astro76: ok. so its pointing at a bash instance which is runnign truecrypt, but truecrypt won't let me unmount :(
[17:42] <astro76> bijur: I have X3100, not blacklisted for compiz in Hardy
[17:42] <acegikmo> running gutsy
[17:43] <jope> bijur: it says the same thing could not get status from wpa_supplicant
[17:43] <anirudh1> acegikmo, that may be due to wine itself
[17:43] <acegikmo> sorry running hardy now
[17:43] <odinsbane> DIL sorry I don't use samba
[17:43] <bijur> i have a personal feeling that wine is an unnatural thing, its not meant to be there
[17:43] <odinsbane> peace out
[17:43] <anirudh1> acegikmo, which app in particular?
[17:43] <bijur> yet someone has made it
[17:43] <Clapper> ﻿does anyone know for sure if the live cd will detect, and utilize a software raid I setup on a previous ubuntu installation?  I need to backup stuff to it...
[17:43] <bijur> hehe
[17:43] <anirudh1> bijur, :)
[17:43] <astro76> jimmyg00n: dunno about truecrypt
[17:43] <DIL> odinsbane: ty anyway
[17:43] <acegikmo> WoW and WCIII
[17:43] <bijur> anirudh1: sorry, i got emotional :))
[17:43] <anirudh1> bijur, how do you play games w/o wine
[17:43] <jimmyg00n> astro76: ok. well thanks for the help :)
[17:44] <bijur> acegikmo: to run wow! install crossover
[17:44] <acegikmo> while rune halls of valhalla works fine
[17:44] <anirudh1> acegikmo, WoW works for me
[17:44] <robg_> Clapper: a LiceCD runs outside an operating system
[17:44] <anirudh1> acegikmo, T42 radeon
[17:44] <Clapper> anyone?  anyone?  Bueller?
[17:44] <acegikmo> yeah wow is working fine on three other computers
[17:44] <Clapper> rob, yes, I know that
[17:44] <anirudh1> acegikmo, disable compiz first..then start woW
[17:44] <bijur> kewl! i want to try it on this comp
[17:44] <AcornAcorn> is there any way to use irc without your brain hurting? are there any irc clients that make things easier on your eyes and easier to follow?
[17:44] <anirudh1> *WoW
[17:45] <Clapper> I want to mount my pre existing raid storage array via live cd... possible?
[17:45] <bijur> wow used to be short for world of women :D
[17:45] <Jessica601> hiya.  I just installed ubuntu server.  it created a user account on installation, but it never asked for a root pw.  whats up with that?
[17:45] <acegikmo> mk I'll give that a shot
[17:45] <robg_> Clapper: configurations made inside an OS do not necessarilly work outside an OS.
[17:45] <astro76> Jessica601: man sudo_root
[17:45] <astro76> !sudo | Jessica601
[17:45] <acegikmo> I don't get why the i810 driver doesnt seem to work
[17:45] <hacker_at_12> hi
[17:45] <anirudh1> bijur, the critical phrase is "used to":D
[17:45] <Jessica601> ok... so in ubuntu, you cannot log in as root?
[17:46] <alesan> hi
[17:46] <jrib> !root | Jessica601
[17:46] <astro76> Jessica601: man sudo_root or that page really explains it best
[17:46] <anirudh1> acegikmo, your problem is sections of the screen blinking randomly?
[17:46] <jope> how do i stop iit from tryig to reconnect
[17:46] <acegikmo> not really
[17:46] <acegikmo> the i810 driver just shit itself and reverts to vesa
[17:47] <alesan> I still use a ssh key that was created with a broken ssh
[17:47] <anirudh1> acegikmo, coz that was my problem with scorchedearth...until i disabled compiz
[17:47] <hacker_at_12> I installed ubuntu and now windows networking doesn't work
[17:47] <gokorn> hi
[17:47] <Wips> I have a problem with Grub, After I reinstalled it(after installing windows) I get an error about a hal.dll file missing. I've googled it and it seems like its a common problem. But I cant seem to find a working solution.. Any suggestions?
[17:47] <alesan> what am I supposed to do?
[17:47] <AcornAcorn> can anyone help me work out why my windows are fading whenever i mouse over something else?
[17:47] <alesan> simply recreate it and change?
[17:47] <Jessica601> ani, looking now.  this will be wierd not being able to log in as root....
[17:47] <astro76> alesan: yes
[17:47] <ChaosTheory_> http://www.videolan.org/doc/vls-user-guide/en/images/terminal-linux.jpg
[17:47] <ChaosTheory_> Does anyone know how to get colors like that?
[17:47] <amenado> Jessica601-> you can use sudo..get into the habit
[17:47] <ChaosTheory_> A timestamp?
[17:47] <Jack_Sparrow> hacker_at_12 /join #Windows ....  ask then to help troubleshoot that problem
[17:47] <anirudh1> ChaosTheory_, in .bashrc uncomment to corrext PS1
[17:47] <alesan> astro76: how should I proceed?
[17:48] <acegikmo> wheras running wow I get this: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=313#
[17:48] <astro76> Jessica601: you can get a root shell with sudo
[17:48] <anirudh1> ChaosTheory_, the section will have the right comments
[17:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Jessica601 You will get used to it.. sudo works quite well
[17:48] <acegikmo> the attacjed screenshot shows wow's zaniness
[17:48] <Jessica601> amenado, i don't want to -act- like god.  I want to be one!!!! MUUUUHHHAHAHAHAHA
[17:48] <astro76> alesan: use ssh-keygen to make a new key
[17:48] <anirudh1> acegikmo, where's the screenshot..the link is of a forum
[17:48] <gokorn> why does x-sensors wont open?
[17:48] <amenado> Jessica601-> you can try, do it like Nike says
[17:49] <ChaosTheory_> anirudh1: I'm in .bashrc.
[17:49] <gokorn> when i open the program its only the clock of sand :P and then noting it disapers
[17:49] <ChaosTheory_> anirudh1: What exactly do you want me to do? =P
[17:49] <anirudh1> ChaosTheory_, type /color
[17:49] <Geoffrey2> hi folks, I'm trying to install the virtualbox ose edition for Heron, but I'm getting a fatal error when installing the linux guest module, when inserting vboxadd, it's telling me there's no such device....
[17:49] <ChaosTheory_> anirudh1: Okay.
[17:49] <Jack_Sparrow> vista_sucks Please change your nick.. thanks
[17:50] <ChaosTheory_> anirudh1: then?
[17:50] <anirudh1> ChaosTheory_, you should see the relevant section now :)
[17:50] <anirudh1> ChaosTheory_, right below where you are
[17:50] <anirudh1> ChaosTheory_, i assumed you were using vi
[17:50] <ChaosTheory_> force_colored_prompt=yes
[17:50] <AcornAcorn> what linux irc clients have lots of colours
[17:50] <ChaosTheory_> I uncommented that.
[17:50] <vista_sucks> ##windows doesn't work
[17:50] <ChaosTheory_> O_o
[17:50] <ChaosTheory_> I'm trying to use vim but for now I'm just sticking with gedit until I suck less. =P
[17:50] <bijur> a
[17:51] <anirudh1> ChaosTheory_, voila..then do "source ~/.bashrc"..done
[17:51] <bijur> AcornAcorn: erc has a lot of colours :d
[17:51] <astro76> AcornAcorn: xchat can interpret those awful mirc color codes if that's what you mean :p
[17:51] <Treeh416> Ugg
[17:51] <anirudh1> ChaosTheory_, emacs is better in the long run..if you are learning vi, it might make more sense to learn emacs
[17:51] <ChaosTheory_> anirudh1: So now what?
[17:51] <Jessica601> okokok... so even if the root account is disabled, there is one, right?  if so, why didn't the install ever have me specify a root pw?
[17:51] <ChaosTheory_> aniriudh1: Oh, I see.
[17:51] <Treeh416> robg_, can you help me with networking?
[17:51] <AcornAcorn> astro76, It just seems really hard to keep track of what people are saying, there must be a way of making it clearer
[17:51] <Itaku> is there a program or way to run dashboard widgets on ubuntu?????????
[17:51] <anirudh1> ChaosTheory_, you should see the colored prompt now
[17:52] <astro76> Jessica601: there is one, but it's disabled with no password
[17:52] <acegikmo> ﻿anirudh1: http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8813/screenshotsb3.png  there sorry for the dumb link
[17:52] <[T]an3> i try to ssh to my ubuntu laptop and it says that the connection is refused. how do i correct this? i am not running iptables or anything like that
[17:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !root | Jessica601
[17:52] <amenado> Jessica601-> you can not survive with sudo?
[17:52] <ChaosTheory_> anirudh1: Nope. . .
[17:52] <robg_> Tree416: My installs always network themselves.
[17:52] <Treeh416> robg_,  darn :(
[17:52] <jope> bijur: any ideas as to what i could try next, pls?
[17:52] <bijur> hope: wpa_gui dinn work?
[17:52] <Jessica601> i'm reading!  i'm reading!  I was just curious
[17:52] <anirudh1> acegikmo, this reminds me of google talk
[17:52] <anirudh1> acegikmo, looks exactly the same under wine
[17:53] <robg_> Treeh416: you can choose between automatic DHCP and a manual config.
[17:53] <jope> bijur: no it just keep strying to connect to wpa-supplicant with no success
[17:53] <[T]an3> ssh access to my laptop?
[17:53] <bijur> ok basic question, whats ur network? wep? wpa?
[17:53] <Treeh416> robg_,  where do i do this?
[17:53] <ChaosTheory_> anirudh1: I'm using xfce4-terminal.
[17:53] <jope> wpa
[17:53] <fabschub> is it possible to use two usb devices (headset and mic) for teamspeak? other sounds with normal soundcard
[17:53] <anirudh1> ChaosTheory_, open another terminal..if you uncommented the right line...the prompt should be colored now
[17:53] <rat> i need help to cache the ubuntu repository
[17:53] <bijur> does 'SCAN'ning for network show u any wpa networks?
[17:53] <ChaosTheory_> anirudh1: But its not showing up in any other terminal emulators,either.
[17:53] <robg_> Treeh416: DHCP is automatic. If that fails you can do manual config.
[17:53] <jope> i just type scan?
[17:53] <ChaosTheory_> anirudh1: I'll pastebin my .bashrc
[17:53] <AaronH> Jessica601, if you want to enable you root user you can do "sudo -s" then do "passwd" and set a password for it.
[17:53] <Treeh416> robg_,  where do I do the manual config
[17:54] <anirudh1> ChaosTheory_, bashrc modifies the way bash behaves...nothing to do with a particular emulator
[17:54] <acegikmo> ﻿anirudh1: is there a fix for it?
[17:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !noroot | AaronH
[17:54] <ChaosTheory_> anirudh1: http://pastebin.com/m5025545f
[17:54] <ChaosTheory_> anirudh1: oh, okay.
[17:54] <Lord_Devi> Anyone know of a good way to use NFS shares from windows clients without resorting to microsofts NFS Client/Gateway stuff?
[17:54] <robg_> Get some IP adresses from Windows ipconfig and enter them in Ubuntu.
[17:54] <DrGamut> Hi, I bought a ubuntu linux VPS and I think it is using tc to limit transfer rates over each connection. How can I disable this?
[17:54] <anirudh1> acegikmo, welll...gtalk has'nt worked yet :)...maybe if you paste the stuff wine shows in the term, there might be a clue thee
[17:54] <anirudh1> *there
[17:54] <Treeh416> scunizi,  any progress?
[17:55] <boy_chn> I get this message after I update and give a sudo command: "sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by gid 1001, should be 0" What does it mean? And how can I back to default configuration of ubuntu?????
[17:55] <boy_chn> I get this message after I update and give a sudo command: "sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by gid 1001, should be 0" What does it mean? And how can I back to default configuration of ubuntu?????
[17:55] <Itaku> can you install mac on a pc?
[17:55] <jope> bijur: under network settings theres no wireless
[17:55] <gokorn> how to extend apt-get list of programs?
[17:55] <Treeh416> Is anyone here REALLY REALLY good at networking?
[17:56] <Itaku> can you install mac on a pc?
[17:56] <AaronH> Ill try to help you Treeh416
[17:56] <bijur> jope: hehe does ur ifconfig show u wlan0?
[17:56] <acegikmo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=805725 has the output text
[17:56] <robg_> Treeh416: what is the problem ?
[17:56] <astro76> boy_chn: sudo chown root.root /etc/sudoers
[17:56] <Treeh416> robg_,  nothing is working >.>
[17:56] <Wips> How can I figure out exactly on which partition my windows os is through Ubuntu?
[17:56] <Jack_Sparrow> gokorn Make sure you have all the official repos enabled.. and be careful about unsupported repos if you decide to add any
[17:56] <Treeh416> AaronH, Ok. I've tried everything...can we just try this from the top?
[17:56] <astro76> Wips: sudo fdisk -l
[17:56] <jope> bijur; no i just checked and theres a eth0 and l0 but thts all
[17:56] <bijur> Treeh416: to begin with what u r asking has got nothing to do with networking! so stop asking that
[17:56] <[T]an3> no one able to help me make my laptop receive ssh requests?
[17:56] <bijur> jope duh!
[17:56] <Treeh416> bijur, how no?
[17:56] <AaronH> Treeh416, I sent you a pm
[17:57] <bijur> jope: u need to have a wlan0, that means, ur driver isnt there
[17:57] <boy_chn> astro76: actually, what does the message mean???
[17:57] <bijur> jope: whats ur wireless card?
[17:57] <robg_> Treeh416: for a manual config you need an IP address of your computer, a subnetmask and a router IP address.
 where can i find supported repos?
[17:57] <astro76> boy_chn: somehow the group ownership of that file got changed to a user's group
[17:57] <Jack_Sparrow> gokorn system admin software sources
[17:57] <bijur> Treeh416: getting a particular app to work is not networking!!
[17:57] <ChaosTheory_> anirudh1: Did you get it?
[17:57] <gokorn> tnx
[17:57] <jope> bijur: yeah but ths wht i thought we'd been trying to do
[17:57] <anirudh1> ChaosTheory_, one sec
[17:57] <wachunei> guys i need help. i'm trying to extract an exe i can't do it... it's the broadcom installer from the leopard dvd
[17:58] <astro76> boy_chn: you should change the ownership/permissions of any files outside your home, if you do need to edit system files, use sudo or gksudo
[17:58] <DrGamut> Hi, I bought a ubuntu linux VPS and I think it is using tc to limit transfer rates over each connection. How can I disable this?
[17:58] <astro76> boy_chn: * you should not
[17:58] <Wips> I don't understand how /dev/sda1/ equals hd(0,0). How does that work?
[17:58] <Kaja> a = 0, 1 = 0
[17:58] <Jack_Sparrow> wachunei Explain what you are trying to do as I dont think what you are trying is going to work
[17:58] <he11_knight> hi has somebody get penumbra working on x3100 ?
[17:58] <Kaja> b = 1, 2 = 1 and so on
[17:58] <astro76> Wips: grub numbers devices starting with 0 instead of a, and partitions with 0 instead of 1
[17:58] <bijur> bijur: no i thot we were trying to get ur wireless connected, dinn know it wasnt even up dude! so sorry
[17:59] <Wips> ok.. Ty :)
[17:59] <bijur> jope: which is ur wireless card?
[17:59] <jope> bijur: oh sorry
[17:59] <boy_chn> astro76: I have done the command you give. But, the message is still appear when I use sudo command
[17:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Wips hd(0,0)   is correct    hd0 = ifrst hard drive
[17:59] <boy_chn> astro76: I want my system go as default of ubuntu
[18:00] <wachunei> guys i need help. i'm trying to extract an exe i can't do it... it's the broadcom installer from the leopard dvd
[18:00] <Jack_Sparrow> wachunei Explain what you are trying to do as I dont think what you are trying is going to work
[18:00] <astro76> boy_chn: ah right, you'll have to boot into the recovery console and run that command there
[18:00] <jope> bijur: i think im looking for a broadcom 4310. when i run lshw theres a netowrk  uncllaimed listed
[18:00] <wachunei> Jack_Sparrow: i'm trying to extratct the drivers (inf files) to install them with ndiswrapper...
[18:00] <[TiZ]> Hey, I'm preparing to move my Wubi install to its own partition, and I've been deleting stuff off my data partition...
[18:00] <Jack_Sparrow> wachunei we dont use exe.s especially for installing leopard
[18:00] <astro76> boy_chn: without the sudo, when you're in recovery console
[18:00] <anirudh1> ChaosTheory_, see this..http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Color_Bash_Prompt#Customize_your_Bash_prompt_further
[18:00] <jope> bcm4310
[18:01] <[TiZ]> I try to defrag it to move the data away from the end of the partition, but it won't move away from the end. Is it safe to resize anyways?
[18:01] <anirudh1> ChaosTheory_, not sure why the uncommenting approach failed
[18:01] <anirudh1> ChaosTheory_, the archwiki method works for me
[18:01] <boy_chn> astro76: so the command is: chown root.root /etc/sudoers
[18:01] <LaKiLaKi> excuse me, may i ask something here?
[18:01] <bijur> jope can u try doing a modprobe for the driver of that?
[18:01] <Jack_Sparrow> jope Would you like me to try and help.?
[18:01] <marathe25> My USB connections go dead after a random amount of time, the only way I can figure out to fix them is a hard reboot. Anybody know what the deal is? It's particularly annoying since my keyboard, mouse, and wireless are all USB.
[18:01] <wachunei> Jack_Sparrow: i've installed ubuntu in my imac, dual booting with leopard, but i can't get the wifi driver working, so i'm trying to extract the drivers from the bootcamp drivers for windows
[18:01] <jope> bijur: i tried tht and checked now again and it says not foound
[18:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !ppc
[18:02] <ChaosTheory_> anirudh1: Awesome, it works.
[18:02] <ChaosTheory_> anirudh1: Thanks.
[18:02] <anirudh1> marathe25, what does lsusb show after the things go dead
[18:02] <jope> modprobe BCM4310
[18:02] <anirudh1> marathe25, assuming you have a fallback keyboard
[18:02] <LaKiLaKi> when i start squid, it always stop after 10 secs
[18:03] <LaKiLaKi> why is it?
[18:03] <anirudh1> ChaosTheory_, great..see if you can figure out why the uncommenting did;nt work
[18:03] <Jack_Sparrow> jope sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[18:03] <[TiZ]> Hello? Is it safe to resize a partition that has data at the end of it? It's 134GB and has 28% of its space free. I just need around 9 GB.
[18:03] <bijur> jope: there is a three page setup guide to install the broadcom driver for ubuntu
[18:03] <Ashfire908> Does anyone know a good fan controlling program?
[18:03] <marathe25> I'll hook up a fallback and test, up until it goes dead again is there anything I can try?
[18:03] <bijur> oh sorry not a three page setup guide
[18:03] <bijur> there is a forum
[18:03] <ragsagar> !offtopic | Ashfire908
[18:03] <bijur> jope : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766560&page=3
[18:04] <wachunei> so.... any idea how to extract and exe file?. i can't do it with unzip, cabextract nor unshield....
[18:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Ashfire908 Is this a laptop running ubuntu.. then it is on-topic
[18:04] <Ashfire908> For ubuntu...
[18:04] <jope> bijur: thanks. i couldn''t get into the forums earlier
[18:04] <LaKiLaKi> bijur: when i start squid, it always stop after 10 secs. why is it?
[18:04] <ChaosTheory_> anirudh1: Can I see your color settings?
[18:04] <Jack_Sparrow> jope sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[18:04] <sparr> How can I use the HPLIP / HPIJS printer drivers?
[18:04] <Jessica601> in a default install of server, what ports are open and which are closed?
[18:05] <anirudh1> ChaosTheory_, i dont use color...it  distracts from the purpose of the terminal
[18:05] <jope> jack; thanks i just ran thtat and it installed
[18:05] <Ashfire908> It's a desktop running Ubuntu. Why does it matter if it's a laptop for it being off-topic
[18:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !iptables
[18:05] <LaKiLaKi> !squid
[18:05] <LaKiLaKi> :(
[18:05] <Jack_Sparrow> jope one sec
[18:06] <ChaosTheory_> anirudh1: oh, okay
[18:06] <bijur> lakilaki: dont u have some logs in /var/log ?
[18:06] <ChaosTheory_> anirudh1: Which WM do you use?
[18:06] <wachunei> .......... thanks ... bye
[18:06] <Jack_Sparrow> jope http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.80.53.0.tar.bz2 Double click the file and get wl_apsta.o from inside and save to your desktop.
[18:06] <bijur> i believe there would be logs for squid, check it to see if there is anything suspicious
[18:06] <anirudh1> ChaosTheory_, PM!!dont flood main chat
[18:06] <maek> anyone here run gfxboot ??
[18:07] <Jack_Sparrow> jope sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~Desktop/wl_apsta.o
[18:07] <LaKiLaKi> bijur: i have logs for cache, access, proxyGuard and store in /var/log/
[18:07] <anirudh1> LaKiLaKi, yup../var/log/squid.log or something similar
[18:07] <LaKiLaKi> i just dony know why its always stop after i start the squid
[18:08] <[TiZ]> Hello? I'm getting ready to move my Wubi install to its own partition. I've been deleting stuff from my 134GB data partition in preparation. It has 28% of its space free now, and I've defragmented it several times. But I can't get data to move away from the end of the partition. Is it safe to resize the partition anyway?
[18:09] <anirudh1> [TiZ], no
[18:09] <robg_> TiZ: sounds dangerous
[18:09] <Jack_Sparrow> [TiZ] no
[18:09] <[TiZ]> In that case, is there a program I can use to move the data away from the end?
[18:09] <bijur> lakilaki: cant u see anything in the squid.log ?
[18:10] <[TiZ]> A better defragger or something?
[18:10] <mohkohn> I have to use ndiswrapper for my wireless. Where do I find my bcm5wl5.inf file in windoze?
[18:10] <bijur> lakilaki: how are u starting squid?
[18:10] <danbhfive> [TiZ]: I have never had problems using gparted.  I don't think you have to worry about it
[18:10] <robg_> TiZ: what sort of data is it ?
[18:10] <LaKiLaKi> bijur: sudo /etc/init.d/squid start
[18:10] <[TiZ]> Well, I
[18:10] <[TiZ]> I'm pretty sure it's the disks for my wubi install
[18:10] <[TiZ]> Losing those would defeat the purpose.
[18:11] <HymnToLife> mohkohn: c:\windows\system32\rivers usually
[18:11] <mohkohn> that should be bcmwl5.inf
[18:11] <MrNaz> i seem to recall seeing that the AMD64 iso of ubuntu is also suitable for 64bit intel cpus... is that the case? can i use the amd64 ubuntu iso on my core2duo laptop ?(thiknpad t61p)
[18:11] <HymnToLife> bu you'll need other iles, do you not have some ind of a setup file for your drivers ?
[18:11] <danbhfive> [TiZ]: but, changing partitions is one of the most dangerous operations one can do with a comp
[18:11] <astro76> MrNaz: yes
[18:11] <mohkohn> HymnToLife, thanks
[18:11] <HymnToLife> MrNaz: yes, it will work on your Core 2 too
[18:11] <anirudh1> [TiZ], maybe you could defrag...whats the filesystem type fat16 or fat32?
[18:12] <MrNaz> HymnToLife thanks
[18:12] <bijur> fat16!! who uses that now!?!?
[18:12] <anirudh1> bijur, on flash disks
[18:12] <[TiZ]> anirudh1, I've been defragging several times. It's a fat32 filesystem, and I've been using AusLogics Disk Defrag.
[18:12] <MrNaz> HymnToLife do you know if I'd get any noticable performance gains?
[18:12] <HymnToLife> pretty much all flash drives*
[18:12] <bijur> anirudh: really? dinn know that :) thanks
[18:12] <HymnToLife> MrNaz: most likely you won't
[18:12] <LaKiLaKi> bijur: there is no squid.log
[18:12] <LaKiLaKi> ???
[18:12] <HymnToLife> but that depends on what you do
[18:12] <anirudh1> bijur, on _small_ flash disks
[18:12] <MrNaz> HymnToLife ok thanks
[18:12] <robg_> TiZ: are you attempting to move an OS ? Don't even try.
[18:13] <jope> jack it says it cannot open inut file
[18:13] <[TiZ]> robg_: It's Wubi.
[18:13] <jope> input
[18:13] <anirudh1> [TiZ], hmm...do you have a backup on another partition
[18:13] <bijur> lakilaki: sigh, i dont know man ! sorry abt that
[18:13] <mohkohn> bcmwl5.sys is the closest I see here. that is not the same is it?
[18:13] <[TiZ]> anirudh1: No, unfortunately. I have a laptop with a 160GB hard drive.
[18:13] <bijur> lakilaki: there should be some sort of logging, check ur config files, i dont know how you can fix something without logs
[18:14] <anirudh1> bijur, that is strange ...something as important as squid must have logs
[18:14] <HymnToLife> mohkohn: you'll most liely need that too, you can find the location of the INF file from the device manager
[18:14] <bijur> lakilaki: check atleast ur dmesg or syslog or something grep over for squid
[18:14] <LaKiLaKi> bijur: well.. thx anyway ill try to find it :)
[18:14] <CroX> Anyone know of a slick way to connect to a VPN without having to keep a terminal window open? I rather not daemon it either, since I want to easily be able to disconnect.
[18:14] <anirudh1> LaKiLaKi, run "sudo find / -iname "squid"|grep log"
[18:14] <[TiZ]> anirudh1: I gave 15GB to Windows XP and 134GB to other data.
[18:14] <bijur> anirudh1: exactly why i thot it wud have logs, i think there would be, especially since its a service
[18:14] <LaKiLaKi> anirudh1: ok ill try it
[18:15] <ifireball> LaKiLaKi: there is something called squidview that provides a nice viewer for squid logs
[18:15] <astro76> CroX: screen or nohup
[18:15] <bijur> anirudh1: or easier type locate squid |grep log
[18:15] <noob-africa> hi all!
[18:15] <mohkohn> I am in ubuntu at the moment so hunting around the windows file system. I havn't been there for a long time
[18:15] <bijur> hi noob :)
[18:15] <anirudh1> [TiZ], the wubi thing is how big exactly...never used it myself so do not know
[18:15] <kam0084> hey africa
[18:15] <bijur> we are all noobs here, which is why we use ubuntu ;)
[18:15] <bijur> :D
[18:15] <noob-africa> i have a website related question.
[18:15] <CroX> astro76: Thanks, I'll check that out.
[18:15] <julian> can someone direct me to a site with cool ubuntu themes
[18:16] <sharms> bijur - I beg to differ
[18:16] <sharms> julian - www.gnome-look.org
[18:16] <kam0084> search for gnome-llok
[18:16] <anirudh1> julian, gnome-look.org
[18:16] <stickystyle> which version of debian did 6.06 (Dapper) pull its upstream packages from?
[18:16] <bijur> julian: gnome-look.org
[18:16] <kam0084> look
[18:16] <Nostahl> gah! my ubuntu cd got scratched and im doing a reinstall lol it cant find the kernel image so i have to download it again to burn so i can get ubuntu running
[18:16] <noob-africa> if - and i stress the word IF - your website was hacked, and all the access codes blocked, would your ISP be able to do a master-reset and give u back your web space?
[18:16] <Daisuke-Laptop> julian: gnome-look.org
[18:16] <Nostahl> just wiped vista clean off the laptop
[18:16] <[TiZ]> anirudh1, my Wubi install is 8GB. It's split across 3 disks: a swap one that's just under 1GB, and two others that are under 4 and 3GB.
[18:16] <ifireball> LaKiLaKi: other then that the logs are probably somewhere in /var/log and probably called squid.something or in a directory by that name
[18:16] <fawaz> julian: gnome-looks.com
[18:16] <noob-africa> i mean, your web hosting service...
[18:16] <bijur> sharms: dude, just kidding pal! pardon this piece of dust ;)
[18:16] <julian> cool. thanks for the responses
[18:16] <blindguy> having some problems trying to setup a SCSI HD array - I can see the single drives but can't mount any of them - using a adaptec RAID card - anything think they can assist?
[18:16] <[TiZ]> anirudh1, they're virtual disks, by the way
[18:16] <danbhfive> stickystyle: you might have better luck in #ubuntu+1
[18:16] <LaKiLaKi> ifireball: i try squidview
[18:17] <LaKiLaKi> ifireball: and guess what, there is no log :(
[18:17] <bijur> noob: thats a very vague question
[18:17] <sharms> noob-africa - that is dependent on your web host's backup policies and the number of snapshots they have, and if those snapshots contain uncompromised code
[18:17] <anirudh1> sharms, well...we always keep learning..dont we..
[18:17] <bijur> noob: depends on what u r talking abt , when u say a website, is it an individual server as such or is it just a hosting account?
[18:17] <noob-africa> sharms: aha... well, continue.. u r shedding some light on the issue
[18:17] <sharms> anirudh1,bijur - I am just saying Ubuntu is for everyone, noob to expert, linux is linux :)
[18:17] <noob-africa> bijur: a hosting account... not an individual server
[18:18] <ifireball> LaKiLaKi: you need to run it as root, e.g. with sudo, the log typically isn't accessible to normal users
[18:18] <bijur> sharms: heard the words "joke" "kidding" "light-hearted humour" etc
[18:18] <anirudh1> [TiZ], cant think of any straighforward way for you...guess its easiest to just use partition magic..that should minimize the risk involved
[18:18] <noob-africa> LaKiLaKi: that's a cute nickname... i wonder what it stands for... lol
[18:18] <ubuntu_newbie_in> hi everyone, iwant to ask how to change resolution in ubuntu hardy,...help me
[18:18] <bijur> sharms: by the way ubuntu is dangerously tilting the way redhat/xandros etc etc went
[18:18] <LaKiLaKi> ifireball: i see
[18:18] <bijur> sharms : too much commercialisation
[18:18] <[TiZ]> anirudh1, I have the GParted LiveCD. Is that better or worse than Partition Magic?
[18:18] <kam0084> system-prteferences-screen resolution
[18:19] <danbhfive> anirudh1: why are you suggesting partition magic?  why not gparted?
[18:19] <noob-africa> ubuntu_newbie_in: can u be more specific? what graphics card are u using?
[18:19] <mohkohn> HymnToLife, would it also be somewhere on the XP install disk
[18:19] <anirudh1> noob-africa, lakilaki sounds like a japanese anime character to me :)
[18:19] <mohkohn> ?
[18:19] <ubuntu_newbie_in> nvidia Gforce
[18:19] <anirudh1> ubuntu_newbie_in, under system->prefs-.screen resolution
[18:19] <HymnToLife> mohkohn: no, you should have some kind of a setup file for your drivers
[18:19] <HymnToLife> they're in there
[18:19] <noob-africa> ubuntu_newbie_in: have u installed the nvidia settings manager?
[18:19] <bijur> i have agree with anirudh here, partition magic is aMUCH better tool
[18:19] <mo> hey does sombody know if thinkfinger works in kde4?
[18:19] <HymnToLife> or you an also google for them
[18:19] <sharms> bijur - yeah what I mean is a distro is a distro is a distro, there isn't much difference, we all use the same upstreams etc, really slackware isn't an expert distro any more than ubuntu is
[18:19] <Jack_Sparrow> [TiZ] Read the faq on the wubi wiki, moving that lvm wubi install may be a problem....  I would rather see you go into ubuntu, and save your /home to a usb
[18:19] <ubuntu_newbie_in> i cant change it to 1280 x 1024
[18:19] <ifireball> LaKiLaKi: it make sense when you figure out that the log contains all the information about where everybody surfed to
[18:19] <anirudh1> danbhfive, because...heretical as it might sound...partition magic is better
[18:20] <robg_> TiZ: It depends where you want to repartition, inside Windows, inside Linux, or outside the OSses.
[18:20] <ubuntu_newbie_in> in ubuntu 7.10 it works
[18:20] <bnovc> i installed wubi on a laptop today and upon booting it tried to connect to wireless ... the icon shows up in the corner but no networks are listed
[18:20] <anirudh1> ubuntu_newbie_in, then maybe xorg doesnt know that that resolution is supported
[18:20] <bnovc> and when i try to connect to a network it doesnt give me any information then the spinning icon disappears
[18:20] <mo> thinkfinger in kde? in ubuntu 7.10?
[18:20] <anirudh1> mo...yes
[18:20] <anirudh1> mo: works for me
[18:20] <bijur> whats ur graphics card?
[18:20] <noob-africa> ubuntu_newbie_in: try sudo apt-get install envyng
[18:20] <HymnToLife> mo: I can't see any reason why it wouldn't work
[18:20] <bijur> ubuntu_newbie_in whats ur graphics card?
[18:20] <CmdPrmtMdnss> hey all i accidently delete a partion in a hard drive any one know how to retrive the data
[18:20] <ifireball> anirudh1: I beg to differ, PM makes a lousy job at it
[18:20] <jope> ok  i want to start this from the beginning could someone verify how i find out for sure the name of the driver i need please? i want to start from the beginning
[18:21] <anirudh1> noob-africa, what would that do?
[18:21] <ubuntu_newbie_in> in ubuntu 7.10 i can chang it to 1280x1024 if i can change the type of monitor
[18:21] <HymnToLife> pm is evil
[18:21] <anirudh1> ifireball, you beg to differ about what?
[18:21] <HymnToLife> use gparted
[18:21] <bijur> ifireball: dude if PM makes a lousy job, then good luck with qparted :))
[18:21] <bnovc> shouldn't the network connection gui pass on SOME type of information when it tries to connect?
[18:21] <mo> okay thx4all cya
[18:21] <ubuntu_newbie_in> in hardy i can't found to change it
[18:21] <[TiZ]> Jack_Sparrow, why?
[18:21] <CmdPrmtMdnss> gparted? ok is there a recovery option
[18:21] <HymnToLife> for recovery ?
[18:22] <bijur> there are several windows based good partition tools, i think using one of them wud be a better idea than gparted etc.
[18:22] <ifireball> anirudh1: about PM being any good; bijur: I use plain old fdisk myself; though qtparted seemed OK that last time I tried it
[18:22] <Jack_Sparrow> [TiZ] Do you have any backup of ubuntu?
[18:22] <Ranpha1> Hi there ... i need to make a txt file with a lot of numbers from number 1 till 8600. I was wondering if there was a program which can does this automatic , so that you get 1 2 3 4 5 and so on
[18:22] <noob-africa> ubuntu_newbie_in: envygn is the driver installer for all nvidia cards, and it will let u set the resolution as well
[18:22] <CmdPrmtMdnss> yeah....i need to try to save in the data on the drive
[18:22] <anirudh1> ubuntu_newbie_in, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:22] <bijur> ifireball: using fdisk is no big deal, but when u want to resize a partition without losing data, then fdisk is no good is it?
[18:23] <jope> ok  i want to start this from the beginning could someone verify how i find out for sure the name of the driver i need please? i want to start from the beginning?
[18:23] <[TiZ]> Jack_Sparrow, no, not right now. My iPod's battery is dead, and until it comes back, I've nowhere to back it up.
[18:23] <anirudh1> ifireball,  completely agree with bijur
[18:23] <noob-africa> anirudh1: yea, that works too, but there is something about dep mod?
[18:23] <Jack_Sparrow> [TiZ] I would suggest that be your priority
[18:23] <anirudh1> noob-africa, that comes into the picture only when you talk about kernel modules
[18:23] <blindguy> having some problems trying to setup a SCSI HD array - I can see the single drives but can't mount any of them - using a adaptec RAID card - anything think they can assist?
[18:23] <[TiZ]> It may fit on a dual-layer DVD, though.
[18:24] <[TiZ]> should I just burn the disk images to one?
[18:24] <|johnny|> hello
[18:24] <anirudh1> [TiZ], that would be easier
[18:24] <Jack_Sparrow> [TiZ] I wont use or recommend wubi, but since you have, I suggest you read the faq and learn all you can about what it is and how to deal with it
[18:24] <ubuntu_newbie_in> nvidia glx in ubuntu 7.10 can't install in ubuntu8.04
[18:24] <kam0084> hey
[18:24] <ifireball> bijur: when you want to resize you used a dedicated resizing tool to resize the FS and then resize the partition; running some flavor of fsck before and after
[18:24] <noob-africa> anirudh1: ok... i get u
[18:24] <|johnny|> i need some help please with ubuntu
[18:24] <noob-africa> ubuntu_newbie_in: i had the same problem... try EnvyNG, u can even install it under Synaptic
[18:24] <marathe25> Is there any way to get Ubuntu to remember the changes I make to window sizes, etc.
[18:24] <kam0084> just ask
[18:24] <|johnny|> i have problem with the keyboard
[18:24] <astro76> Ranpha1: a spread sheet could do it ;)
[18:24] <martian67> is there any way
[18:25] <martian67> to use grub
[18:25] <anirudh1> ifireball, the question is about resizing when you have data at the end of the partition...it is in this case that PM comes to its own
[18:25] <martian67> to boot an iso IMAGE>
[18:25] <ubuntu_newbie_in> it stil doesn't works
[18:25] <Jack_Sparrow> [TiZ] If you are talking about using windows to burn the wubi install.. I think you are asking for trouble
[18:25] <anirudh1> martian67, yes
[18:25] <martian67> anirudh1: how"?
[18:25] <qpPuMeH> Hello people! can somebody help me? my built in mic doesent work on hardy. any advices??
[18:25] <bijur> ifireball: dude u crack me up :) peace
[18:25] <noob-africa> well, who can tell me about the website thingie?
[18:25] <|johnny|> i choose alt+right shift to change language and everytime i reboot doesnt work anymore
[18:25] <[TiZ]> Um... why, Jack_Sparrow? They're just disk images.
[18:25] <anirudh1> !google|martian67
[18:25] <ifireball> bijur: the problem with PM is that it does too much, when you tell it to do a simple resize it often "takes the opportunity" to rearrange the partition table and add strange gaps to it etc.
[18:25] <martian67> anirudh1: die
[18:25] <Nostahl> check if its turned on in alsamixer qppumeh
[18:25] <anirudh1> lol
[18:26] <Jack_Sparrow> [TiZ] good luck..
[18:26] <kam0084> qpPuMeh - open volume control, check if mic is not muted
[18:26] <qpPuMeH> ﻿Nostahl: ok i will mom
[18:26] <hrhodes3114> yea I made it on irc
[18:26] <[TiZ]> Jack_Sparrow, please tell me why you think it's a bad idea.
[18:26] <qpPuMeH> ﻿Nostahl: moment))
[18:26] <kam0084> and check mic capture and capture in prefs
[18:26] <Jack_Sparrow> [TiZ] have you read the wubi wiki faq
[18:26] <[TiZ]> Yeah, but it can't hurt to read it again.
[18:26] <noob-africa> hey Jack_Sparrow ... long time no see! lol
[18:26] <bijur> ifrieball: i agree. but i have had good experience with pm till now. the ones i dont trust is the windows partition manager especially the one in vista
[18:27] <Jack_Sparrow> hey noob-africa
[18:27] <bijur> it crashed my hdd once :(
[18:27] <anirudh1> bijur, vista sucks...cant even copy files properly
[18:27] <qpPuMeH> ﻿Nostahl: i have 3 mics there intern extern and docking all of them on
[18:27] <nando2> oi
[18:27] <ubuntu_newbie_in> lakilaki is ur indonesian?
[18:27] <LaKiLaKi> ubuntu_newbie_in: wew.. yes i am
[18:27] <LaKiLaKi> are you?
[18:27] <nando2> fine
[18:27] <bullgard4> After upgrading Gutsy to Hardy, GNOME shows some identifiers in English and others in German although '~$ locale' returns "LANG=de_DE.UTF8". For example, the GNOME menu shows 'Applications', 'Places', 'System' but their menu items are largely German. How to troubleshoot?
[18:27] <noob-africa> Jack_Sparrow: can we PM? i need to ask u some website recovery issues...
[18:28] <bijur> anirudh1: for an OS that took 6 years, i agree it does, but on the security front, its pbbly the most secure os made by m$, but then yeah i know what u mean
[18:28] <|johnny|> anyone to help me out?
[18:28] <anirudh1> bijur, secure to the extent of paranoia
[18:28] <n8ature> hello.. how can I tell if I am running 32 or 64bit kernel?
[18:28] <nando2> hello?????????????
[18:28] <marathe25> Is there any way to get GNOME to remember changes I make in windows sizes, etc? Especially within programs.
[18:28] <bijur> johnny what happend?
[18:28] <Jessica601> is there a command line util for getting and building packages?
[18:29] <bijur> uname -r
[18:29] <astro76> n8ature: uname -8
[18:29] <ifireball> bijur: well I suppose its a question of mileage, I've had a lousy experience with it, including time when it massed the ptable so bad it couldn't be started
[18:29] <Jack_Sparrow> noob-africa I need to get some work done....   someone will know..   take care.. I will be lurking to handle problems.. but not questions..
[18:29] <astro76> n8ature: uname -a
[18:29] <anirudh1> Jeruvy,cclarify
[18:29] <bijur> n9ature: uname -r
[18:29] <bijur> oops
[18:29] <bijur> yeah -a
[18:29] <bijur> :))
[18:29] <anirudh1> Jessica601, clarify
[18:29] <FloodBot3> bijur: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:29] <|johnny|> layout switching doesnt work after reboot
[18:29] <anirudh1> Jeruvy, sorry
[18:29] <|johnny|> alt+shift
[18:29] <danbhfive> Jessica601: i think the utils you would use for getting differs from building packages
[18:30] <|johnny|> if i press with the mouse on the keyboard indicator i have a language switch but it doesnt write greek
[18:30] <Jessica601> ani:  i just installed server, and i need to install a ssh telnet host kinda app
[18:30] <anirudh1> danbhfive, its a generic question...what is meant by "getting" packages...getting debs or tarballs?
[18:30] <Byron1> what program uses xorg.conf during startup?
[18:30] <n8ature> thanks
[18:30] <noob-africa> hi Jessica601 ... i was just wondering.... what's the 601 for?
[18:30] <qpPuMeH> nobody can help me out with my mic??
[18:30] <|johnny|> only english witch is the default
[18:30] <|johnny|> !!!????
[18:30] <anirudh1> Byron1, the X server
[18:30] <Jessica601> noob  its a random number
[18:30] <|johnny|> i try everything with no solution
[18:30] <anirudh1> |johnny|, do you have greek support installled
[18:31] <kam0084> qpPuMeH, your mic dimply doesnt work ?
[18:31] <|johnny|> yes
[18:31] <Byron1> Thanks anirudh1 but what is the actual file
[18:31] <davidc007> ubottu: is ubuntu better than windows
[18:31] <jrib> !apt > Jessica601 (read the private message from ubottu)
[18:31] <anirudh1> Jessica601, you are looking for an ssh server? then openssh-server is the package..through synaptic
[18:31] <Jessica601> ani, telnetd and sshd didnt seem to be included in the server distro
[18:31] <Jack_Sparrow> davidc007 Sorry but that is offtopic in here...  you would not get an unbiased answer anyhow
[18:31] <evan_> !pastebin
[18:31] <qpPuMeH> ﻿ kam0084: if i do recording i cant hear anything
[18:31] <|johnny|> anirudh1:YES
[18:31] <anirudh1> Byron1, X
[18:31] <jrib> Jessica601: all those things are packaged in ubuntu's repository.  help.ubuntu.com has the server guide, that will probably be helpful
[18:32] <Jessica601> so what is the tool to get the package?
[18:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Jessica601 apt-get install xxx   or aptitude...
[18:32] <davidc007> Jack_Sparrow: testing the bot
[18:32] <kam0084> qpPuMeh : open sound recording, then volume control
[18:32] <Jessica601> ok
[18:32] <anirudh1> |johnny|, i've had a similar problem with hindi support..dont know a fix yet
[18:32] <davidc007> ubottu: wine
[18:32] <Jessica601> so app-get install openssh?
[18:32] <AcornAcorn> how do you change what extra buttons on your mouse do?
[18:32] <|johnny|> i see so is a common proble not just me
[18:32] <kam0084> and tyhen, check if mic is not muted
[18:32] <|johnny|> is it?
[18:32] <anirudh1> Jessica601, openssh-server
[18:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Jessica601 sudo :)
[18:32] <Jessica601> l
[18:33] <Jessica601> k
[18:33] <Jessica601> thx
[18:33] <qpPuMeH> ﻿ kam0084: yep not muted((
[18:33] <jrib> Jessica601: openssh-server
[18:33] <Flannel> Jessica601: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html
[18:33] <kam0084> enable it, if its muted and open prefenrences, then check mic capture and capture
[18:33] <anirudh1> |johnny|, hindi is worse..the script is not latin :)
[18:33] <bijur> Jessica601: u can find the name of a package by typing in apt-cache search ssh server
[18:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !buttons
[18:33] <kam0084> it should works
[18:33] <linkmaster03> command to create a new folder?
[18:33] <Flannel> linkmaster03: mkdir
[18:33] <linkmaster03> thank you
[18:33] <jrib> !cli > linkmaster03 (read the private message from ubottu)
[18:33] <bijur> Jessica601: then use this package name u got there to do a sudo apt-get install <package_name>
[18:33] <qpPuMeH> ﻿ kam0084: if didnt have any capture otptions
[18:33] <|johnny|> i must wait for UBUNTU NEW VERSION TO BE FIXED OR IT MAY BE FIXXED WITH AN UPDATE?
[18:33] <jrib> !caps | |johnny|
[18:33] <|johnny|> :)
[18:33] <noob-africa> am off people
[18:33] <noob-africa> have a nice time
[18:34] <[TiZ]> *sigh.* Alright, I'm backing up my Wubi install right now.
[18:34] <bijur> bye noob-africa
[18:34] <kam0084> qp : volume control - edit - preferences
[18:34] <jlc> Are there any alternate browsers for use with 8.04 x64?
[18:34] <kam0084> and check mic capture and capture
[18:34] <Flannel> jlc: like what?
[18:34] <qpPuMeH> ﻿ kam0084: nope i have not
[18:34] <kam0084> wow
[18:34] <jlc> flannel, something other than Firefox?
[18:34] <bijur> ubottu:wow
[18:34] <anirudh1> [TiZ], still dont understand why you want wubi...why not do a simple fresh install
[18:34] <Flannel> !browsers | jlc
[18:34] <erUSUL> jlc: epiphany
[18:35] <Jessica601> i get an "sudo: app-get: command not found"
[18:35] <qpPuMeH> ﻿ kam0084: just master pcm docking mic extern mix intern mic digital
[18:35] <Flannel> Jessica601: it's apt-get
[18:35] <LaKiLaKi> ifireball: my squid cache total in use: 5225 KB 97%  is it good?
[18:35] <[TiZ]> anirudh1, I want to keep the stuff I've done to it. Like wireless drivers. They were a pain in the butt to set up.
[18:35] <qpPuMeH> ﻿ kam0084: and iec958
[18:35] <Jessica601> doh
[18:35] <anirudh1> Jessica601, as people have said , its apt-get
[18:35] <sharms> Jessica601 - you can use apt-get, but I would recommend just going to System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[18:35] <jlc> ubottu, how do I get opera  for x64?
[18:35] <Flannel> sharms: She's on a server install
[18:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Jessica601 apt not app
[18:35] <sharms> No reason to go to command line
[18:35] <[TiZ]> anirudh1, and besides, even if I did a fresh install, I'd face the same partitioning problems.
[18:35] <sharms> Flannel: ah good reason to go to command line
[18:35] <Flannel> sharms: generally ;)
[18:35] <dassouki> is there a solution for why 8.04's audio can't handle more than one app at a time
[18:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !apt
[18:36] <anirudh1> [TiZ], yes..true
[18:36] <AcornAcorn> how can I make my backwards and forwards buttons on my mouse switch between workspaces?
[18:36] <jlc> Flannel, Do you know how I can get Opera for x64?
[18:36] <sharms> AcornAcorn - Install compiz config and add them as hot keys
[18:36] <anirudh1> sharms, you talk about not being a noob...and then ask for a reason to go to the command line :)
[18:36] <ross> how do i check my browser (firefox) version?
[18:36] <ross> is there a command that i can use on the terminal
[18:36] <azimuth> ross, go to help->about
[18:36] <AcornAcorn> sharms, I have compiz config
[18:36] <maek> be very careful when helping anyone people Flannel is here
[18:36] <bullgard4> jrib: A few hours ago you suggested to file a bug report because a part of my GNOME identifiers appears in German and the rest in English. I think that is too early. First I need a theory what other causes might be the reason for this error.
[18:37] <anirudh1> ross, help->about firefox
[18:37] <jlc> erUSUL, will epiphany run on x64?
[18:37] <qpPuMeH> ﻿ kam0084: any advices???
[18:37] <sharms> anirudh1 - Just because the command line is more efficient for me doesn't mean I am too dense to understand that for 99% of people command line is not good
[18:37] <AcornAcorn> sharms, do you know where abouts the setting would be?
[18:37] <erUSUL> jlc: yep
[18:37] <jrib> bullgard4: I suggested you search for a bug report as you definitely should have the german language if you selected it when you logged in
[18:37] <anirudh1> sharms, if you dont direct them to it, they are never going to learn it
[18:37] <azimuth> sharms, i think the command line is much easier for more than 1% of all people
[18:37] <|johnny|> ANYONE ?
[18:37] <azimuth> id say 50
[18:37] <ross> is versino 3.0b5 the latest verision?
[18:37] <DaVinci2008> the strangest thing happened to me... Package manager does not open, OpenOffice either, the only applications I can open is the games and Mozilla!
[18:37] <jrib> !helpme | |johnny|
[18:37] <DaVinci2008> not even the Languages selector
[18:37] <DaVinci2008> nothing
[18:37] <anirudh1> ross: or firefox --version
[18:38] <jlc> erUSUL, will "sudo apt-get install epiphany" do the trick?
[18:38] <DaVinci2008> help!
[18:38] <erUSUL> jlc: yes
[18:38] <bullgard4> jrib: Thank you for your comment. I will snoop somewhat in Launchpad.
[18:38] <sharms> AcornAcorn - not sure on that one, i am looking under compiz config but it restricts it to changing with scroll wheel, you might have to google for gconf settings to make it happen
[18:38] <anirudh1> DaVinci2008, looks like some critical library got corrupted
[18:38] <Flannel> jlc: The partner repos only seems to have 386, but AMD64 is available, ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/950b/final/en/x86_64  (I have no idea if thats the current version)
[18:38] <qpPuMeH> can somebody help me out with my mic?????
[18:38] <DaVinci2008> how can I make to be able to run Synaptic Manager and OpenOffice? They don't open
[18:38] <DaVinci2008> yes
[18:38] <Flannel> jlc: If you want a different version, traversing the FTP should work
[18:38] <sharms> anirudh1, azimuth - They don't need to learn it, why not just let them point and click it?
[18:38] <erUSUL> jlc: nope is epipahny-browser
[18:39] <ross> is there a way to keep a window visible while another window (maxed to the whole screen) is being displayed?
[18:39] <anirudh1> sharms: that sounds dangerously patronising
[18:39] <qpPuMeH> ﻿can somebody help me out with my mic?????
[18:39] <azimuth> qp, whats ur problem?
[18:39] <Flannel> jlc: Also, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser might have other things you need to do when installing it
[18:39] <AcornAcorn> sharms, I suppose scroll wheel would be good too, where do you activate that?
[18:39] <sharms> anirudh1, azimuth - The goal of ubuntu is to provide a usable system for everybody, not forced learning of command lines
[18:39] <DaVinci2008> help!
[18:39] <ross> i mean, is there a way to keep a window visible no matter what
[18:39] <SeaPhor> can you edit/copy a man display to a txt file?
[18:39] <maek> I would qpPuMeH but Flannel is around
[18:39] <DaVinci2008> how can I reinstall the packages without the package manager?
[18:39] <jrib> ross: right click on the title bar -> always on top
[18:39] <anirudh1> DaVinci2008, run oowriter from the terminal...it will tell you the problem
[18:39] <DaVinci2008> or do I have to reinstall the whole OS?
[18:39] <jlc> Flannel, ty.
[18:39] <qpPuMeH> ﻿azimuth: built in mic doesent work on hardy
[18:39] <DaVinci2008> ok
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[18:40] <anirudh1> DaVinci2008, no!
[18:40] <azimuth> qp, hm im not quite sure sorry
[18:40] <sharms> AcornAcorn - Install: compizconfig-settings-manager     then go to System->Preferences->Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[18:40] <danbhfive> DaVinci2008: sudo apt-get install --reinstall package
[18:40] <ross> jrib: thanks wow this chat is great
[18:40] <DaVinci2008> I found the problem, thanks
[18:40] <sharms> AcornAcorn - from there click your plugin, and the first tab will have the key settings to remap
[18:40] <azimuth> DaVinci, please share what u did to solve ur problem
[18:40] <DaVinci2008> I had installed libstdc++.so.* and it crashed it all
[18:40] <anirudh1> DaVinci2008, care to share it?
[18:40] <DaVinci2008> so, I removed them
[18:40] <anirudh1> DaVinci2008, oh no
[18:40] <[TiZ]> Alright, I've got some down-time while that burns. So I've got another burning question.
[18:40] <DaVinci2008> why Ubuntu does not come with those libraries?
[18:41] <anirudh1> DaVinci2008, what do you mean you removed it
[18:41] <Assid> heya.. i got an old ubuntu installation.. i need to load up the server edition on it
[18:41] <Assid> or rather update it
[18:41] <DaVinci2008> I had copied them to /usr/local/lib
[18:41] <DaVinci2008> they were not there... so I deleted them
[18:41] <azimuth> Assid, just go to update manager
[18:41] <[TiZ]> I've been using KVIrc for Windows. I love it. But for Linux, it's supposedly only for KDE. Is there any way to run it in GNOME?
[18:41] <anirudh1> DaVinci2008, you removed all stdc++*?
[18:41] <DaVinci2008> from there
[18:41] <hrhodes3114> lol
[18:41] <DaVinci2008> no, just the ones I copied
[18:41] <hrhodes3114> I know your watching
[18:41] <anirudh1> DaVinci2008, ok
[18:41] <hrhodes3114> lol
[18:41] <DaVinci2008> I can't find the original ones
[18:41] <azimuth> <TiZ, just find an alternative
[18:41] <DaVinci2008> where are they?
[18:41] <sharms> [TiZ]-  you can run any kde program under gnome
[18:41] <Assid> azimuth: remote server..i need the sources.list first
[18:41] <hrhodes3114> Hi Kim
[18:41] <azimuth> sharms, how?
[18:41] <DaVinci2008> I do whereis libstdc++ and it shows nothing
[18:41] <[TiZ]> How, sharms?
[18:41] <anirudh1> [TiZ], kde apps work in gnome
[18:42] <DaVinci2008> strange
[18:42] <qpPuMeH> my built in mic doesent works onn hardy please help me out!!!
[18:42] <[TiZ]> Please enlighten me. :)
[18:42] <Flannel> [TiZ]: You just have a bit of overhead since you'll have both libraries in memory.  Just install it through package management
[18:42] <julian> Can anyone recommend an application to begin creating a website
[18:42] <anirudh1> DaVinci2008, the fact that you are still online means everything is fine :)
[18:42] <qpPuMeH> ﻿my built in mic doesent works onn hardy please help me out!!!
[18:42] <sharms> azimuth, [TiZ] - All of these programs just use 'toolkits' to draw.  You can run any kde program just fine under gnome, only issue might be themes wont match up
[18:42] <[TiZ]> That's really it, huh? Okay, thanks!
[18:42] <Flannel> julian: check out kompozer
[18:42] <DaVinci2008> ah yes
[18:42] <Assid> can anyone put up their sources.list for me pelase..
[18:42] <DaVinci2008> I just want to know where they are and their version
[18:42] <ross> i cannot play dvds on my computer
[18:42] <GottaBeAndrew> i'm using the blubuntu theme. when i put a window full screen then put a non-fullscreen one infront of it, the full screen one's title bar thing turns from blue to see-through (like all windows do when they're not the focussed one). how do i stop it from doing this when it's full screen?
[18:42] <anirudh1> DaVinci2008, libstdc++ is so fundamental..you  cant work if it gets corrupted
[18:42] <xintron> how do I create a bash file script and then run it?
[18:42] <julian> ok thanks flannel
[18:42] <ross> i am using totem movie player
[18:42] <[TiZ]> Thank you for that valuable information, guys. :)
[18:43] <erUSUL> Assid: System>Admin>Software Sources
[18:43] <Assid> once again
[18:43] <Assid> its a remote server
[18:43] <maek> so many people to help out ... pitty I cant do it while Flannel is around
[18:43] <DaVinci2008> anirudh1: I need libstdc++.so.5 for a game I did. That is why I copied them. But my game does not found them in Ubuntu. So, where are they?
[18:43] <Assid> i got ssh access to it
[18:43] <anirudh1> DaVinci2008, sudo "find / -iname "*libstdc++*"
[18:43] <qpPuMeH> pleeeaaasee someone!!! help !
[18:43] <jrib> !dvd > ross (read the private message from ubottu)
[18:43] <DaVinci2008> ok
[18:43] <ross> the error message is: An error occurred, could not read from resource
[18:43] <jrib> !helpme > qpPuMeH (read the private message from ubottu)
[18:43] <hrhodes3114> what do you need help with
[18:43] <anirudh1> DaVinci2008, put the special libs in a folder
[18:43] <Flannel> maek: What on earth are you going on about?
[18:44] <anirudh1> DaVinci2008, then do export LD_PRELOAD_PATH=<folder-name>:LD_PRELOAD_PATH
[18:44] <maek> you know perfectly well Flannel
[18:44] <hrhodes3114> lol
[18:44] <DaVinci2008> thanks
[18:44] <hrhodes3114> lmfao
[18:44] <DaVinci2008> they are in /usr/lib, but version 6 and I need 5
[18:44] <Assid> so can someone help me with this
[18:44] <Lynet> Assid: Hardy? There should be a default sources.list in  /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu/sample/sources.list
[18:44] <Assid> geez
[18:44] <jrib> maek: let's try to stay on topic
[18:44] <Assid> do you guys read what i write?
[18:44] <hrhodes3114> cool
[18:44] <qpPuMeH> had somebody problems with built in mic on ubuntu 8.04??
[18:44] <anirudh1> DaVinci2008, put version 5 in a seperate folder...mixing libstdc++ versions is harakiri
[18:44] <DaVinci2008> so, I will copy version 5 from slackware, or is there an ftp for ubuntu version 5 of libstdc++?
[18:44] <DaVinci2008> yes
[18:45] <DaVinci2008> in /usr/local/lib
[18:45] <jrib> Assid: you need to write everything on a single line
[18:45] <Lynet> Assid: No. Not in a channel as busy as this when you split your stuff over many many lines.
[18:45] <hrhodes3114> irc is fun
[18:45] <Assid> its an OLD ubuntu installation . i want to bring it to current.. its a remote server.. so i gotta do this in shell. now.. i need to update this.. how do i go about updating it
[18:45] <jrib> Assid: how old? what version?
[18:45] <erUSUL> !upgrade | Assid
[18:45] <Flannel> Assid: `deb [repository] ubuntu main restricted universe multiverse` then replace ubuntu with ubuntu-updates and ubuntu-security.  That's all there is to it.  Also, remove restricted/multiverse/universe if you don't want to use those
[18:45] <anirudh1> Assid, you can only upgrade to the next higher version
[18:45] <Assid> feisty
[18:45] <hrhodes3114> byron ?
[18:45] <Flannel> Assid: Oh.  What version of Ubuntu is it?
[18:45] <lele_> ciao
[18:45] <AcornAcorn> how do you tell what the names are for buttons on your mouse? i assumed they were called 4 and 5 but that doesn't work
[18:45] <Assid> feisty
[18:45] <anirudh1> Assid, eg dapper->edgy and not dapper->gutsy
[18:45] <soundray> How do I disable automounting of USB drives in hardy? Not through Removable Drives and Media any more apparently...
[18:45] <jrib> Assid: ubottu's message answers your question then
[18:46] <esteth> when i go to smb://mshome and try to create a folder, i get the message "operation not supported by backend". What do i need to do insteaD?
[18:46] <Flannel> anirudh1: No, dapper -> hardy is possible.  but only dapper and go to hardy (well, and gutsy)
[18:46] <hrhodes3114> I love log files
[18:46] <anirudh1> soundray, open up computer://
[18:46] <anirudh1> soundray, right click on the drive...then go to volume properties
[18:46] <Jessica601> Any suggestions for an sftp server?
[18:46] <lele_> list
[18:47] <bijur> Jessica: proftp is good
[18:47] <lele_> !list
[18:47] <Assid> anirudh1: feisty -> hardy
[18:47] <bijur> Jessica601: proftp is good.
[18:47] <ross> how can i access my computer remotely (ubuntu)
[18:47] <Flannel> Assid: You'll have to go feisty -> gutsy -> hardy
[18:47] <hrhodes3114> lol
[18:47] <TheMaverick`> SSH
[18:47] <soundray> anirudh1: so I can't prevent mounting before I plug it in?
[18:47] <bijur> ross: openvpn, vnc
[18:47] <Assid> oh boy
[18:47] <anirudh1> soundray, you only need to do it once
[18:47] <bijur> ross: yes ofcourse ssh :D
[18:48] <hrhodes3114> :)
[18:48] <anirudh1> ross: ssh -X
[18:48] <TheMaverick`> lol
[18:48]  * Assid firest up xming
[18:48] <ross> i mean like to be able to use the whole session
[18:48] <bijur> ross: enable xdmp on ur gdm and use it to export x
[18:48] <hrhodes3114> The Mav
[18:48] <bijur> ross: try using vnc
[18:48] <ross> ok
[18:48] <anirudh1> ross: -X is not a smiley
[18:48] <TheMaverick`> hrhodes3114: ?
[18:48] <bijur> anirudh :)))
[18:48] <hrhodes3114> yep
[18:48] <hrhodes3114> hi
[18:48] <ross> what is -X?
[18:48] <bijur> hey anyone here interested in mud
[18:49] <soundray> anirudh1: once per device, or once for all USB external drives?
[18:49] <TheMaverick`> hiya
[18:49] <hrhodes3114> I love ubuntu
[18:49] <DaVinci2008> anirudh1: cool, I have both version 5 and 6 of libstdc++ running, thanks for all
[18:49] <anirudh1> ross: forwards the x session
[18:49] <bijur> some coding some building, completely open source
[18:49] <anirudh1> soundray, depends
[18:49] <DaVinci2008> thanks to everybody, this channel is very useful!
[18:49] <Flannel> bijur: #ubuntu-offtopic, not here, thanks.
[18:49] <hrhodes3114> yes sir
[18:49] <anirudh1> soundray, whether you modify the volume or the drive properties
[18:49] <douglas> Hey.
[18:49] <soundray> anirudh1: what if I have a drive with ten partitions and I want to prevent ten Nautilus windows from popping up?
[18:49] <hrhodes3114> hello
[18:49] <anirudh1> DaVinci2008, useful-yes...sane-no
[18:49] <hrhodes3114> lol
[18:49] <DaVinci2008> ?
[18:49] <DaVinci2008> hehe
[18:49] <douglas> Is there a program specifically to broadcast to ShoutCAST for ubuntu?
[18:50] <Flannel> douglas: icecast
[18:50] <DaVinci2008> why not sane?
[18:50] <redwyrm> when I press suspend, my computer doesn't lock the screen. I'm just upgraded to the latest version of ubuntu (8.04). Before the upgrade, it _did_ lock the screen when I pressed the suspend button. how do I fix this?
[18:50] <Flannel> douglas: oh, sorry.  Uh, there are lots of source clients.  mpd is one, ices2 is available, etc.
[18:50] <anirudh1> soundray, then you are looking for editint the "drive" properties in computer://, rather than the "volume" properties :)
[18:50] <anirudh1> soundray, i know..can be frustrating when ten windows pop up in the middle of work
[18:50] <robg_> soundray: 10 paritions is over the top.
[18:50] <ross> where do I go and open ports for my firewall?
[18:50] <douglas> Flannel: i can't seem to make icecast work
[18:50] <Assid> great.. my sources.list points to a location that has  no updates
[18:50] <douglas> i'm a moron
[18:51] <Assid> stupid ovh mirror
[18:51] <douglas> but regardless
[18:51] <douglas> i prefer shotcast
[18:51] <douglas> shoutcast
[18:51] <FloodBot3> douglas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:51] <anirudh1> robg_, not really...nowadays there are 1Tb hdds
[18:51] <soundray> anirudh1: that's not just frustrating, that's broken.
[18:51] <soundray> anirudh1: I'll file a bug
[18:51] <erUSUL> ross: what firewall did you instaled?
[18:51] <anirudh1> soundray, you mean a feature request?
[18:51] <ross> erUSUL; i don't knwo
[18:51] <hrhodes3114> I need to have my channels logging from now on
[18:51] <soundray> robg_: if Ubuntu provides 16 nodes, then 10 is not over the top
[18:51] <soundray> anirudh1: yes
[18:51] <Assid> can someone ATLEAST get me the sources.list for 7.04?
[18:51] <ross> erUSUL; i'm not even sure if i had installed one
[18:52] <ross> erUSUL; but i need to open some ports for remote access (VNC)
[18:52] <Flannel> douglas: That's fine.  Any icecast sources (which might be more prevalent as a search term) should work in shoutcast.  ices2 is the 'default' icecast source client, but like I said before, mpd is another (as of edgy, I believe), and well, I know there are others too, I just don't know their names.
[18:52] <anirudh1> Assid, ubuntuguide.org
[18:52] <douglas> I'm looking for graphical ones.
[18:52] <douglas> Are those graphical?
[18:52] <erUSUL> ross: ubuntu does not enable a fw by default most likely you want to open the ports in your roputer
[18:52] <Flannel> Assid: You don't need to change sources.list to upgrade: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-f2435a45758bb5836f8e5b87e90045463f8c6ec7
[18:52] <FrozenFish> Guys, can I update to latest version of Clamav using Terminal or must i download the new version (not virus db)
[18:52] <n8ature> is it possible to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit without reinstalling?
[18:53] <AaronH> ross, ubuntu's stock firewall setting are all open, which is fine, because there are no programs that are a major security risk listening on the ports
[18:53] <Flannel> n8ature: unfortunately no
[18:53] <evan_> is it possible to run shockwave?
[18:53] <n8ature> Flannel: thanks
[18:53] <mohkohn> I want to share my internet with Ubuntu. I have an imac. Under osx it is easy: http://www.macinstruct.com/node/118
[18:53] <Flannel> FrozenFish: What's the most recent version? do you know?
[18:53] <mohkohn> Is there a way to do the same under ubuntu. I have Hardy
[18:53] <anirudh1> n8ature, thats because _all_ libraries need to change
[18:53] <FrozenFish> will check
[18:53] <Lynet> !ics | mohkohn
[18:53] <erUSUL> mohkohn: firestarter can do it graphically
[18:54] <Flannel> FrozenFish: The version in the Hardy repos are up to date
[18:54] <mohkohn> thanks folks I am looking.
[18:54] <n8ature> anirudh1:  right.. makes sense
[18:55] <lordleemo> Assid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14365/
[18:55] <mannytu> check room #Clamav too...
[18:55] <koheleth> ubuntu, opera, flash, is there an issue?
[18:55] <koheleth> !opera
[18:55] <erUSUL> Lynet: that's my factoid!!! ;)
[18:55] <LMJ> hi
[18:55] <xintron> How do I type to get the variable "myfilename" to "Screenshot DATE(current date) TIME(current time)" in bash?
[18:55] <koheleth> where is operpluginwrapper?
[18:55] <FrozenFish> I have 0.92.1 - reccomended (In Terminal) is 0.93
[18:55] <Juan> im having problems with multiple user accounts in hardy, sometimes when a second user starts a session it kills the previous one
[18:56] <LMJ> what's the best way to get Java running on my Ubuntu hardy Firefox 3b5 64bits please?
[18:56] <stothepizzle> how can i tell which wireless module my card is using?
[18:56] <FrozenFish> I tried freshclam and then i get that message
[18:56] <AaronH> koheleth, you have to get the beta version of opera if you want flash to work, the stable opera doesnt work with flash 9
[18:56] <anirudh1> LMJ, allow firefox to install the java plugin
[18:56] <mannytu> netbeans is a good IDE
[18:56] <anirudh1> LMJ, go to a site that has java stuff..then allow ff to install it
[18:57] <Flannel> FrozenFish: The 0.93 was a bugfix release, and as such, the changes in it were put into 0.92 in the repos, so even though it claims to be 0.92, it's really 0.93
[18:57] <koheleth> really, thanks
[18:57] <FrozenFish> Ah, ok! Thanks a lot. Then I wont bother uninstall and then install again!
[18:57] <koheleth> AaronH, got an url for me
[18:58] <yuppi> hi all :) when the firefox rc1 become alavable from update menager ?
[18:58] <FrozenFish> Flannel: Thanks for helping!
[18:58] <Flannel> FrozenFish: no problem
[18:58] <erUSUL> xintron: export myfilename=screenshot-$(date +%R-%F)  ??
[18:58] <koheleth> AaronH, http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/
[18:59] <AaronH> koheleth, ill get you a link
[18:59] <FrozenFish> Anyone else here has a problem with X restarting without any reason?
[18:59] <koheleth> 950b2 I suppose
[18:59] <mannytu> !restricted
[18:59] <xintron> ty erUSUL
[19:00] <anirudh1> FrozenFish, check /var/log/syslog...it should tell you why x restarts
[19:00] <Webu> Has anyone transfered large files from Windows -> Linux server? I just tried to transfer a 8GB file without luck.
[19:00] <LMJ> about java, I've tried packages such as sunjava or gcjwebplugin but java.com test can't detect them
[19:00] <koheleth> AaronH, looks like they have a 64bit now as well
[19:00] <Webu> I mean with Samba.
[19:00] <AaronH> koheleth, http://www.opera.com/download/?ver=9.50b2
[19:00] <anirudh1> LMJ, you could try the icedtea plugin
[19:01] <anirudh1> LMJ, but the FF method is simpler
[19:01] <matrix> hello
[19:01] <koheleth> AaronH, thanks
[19:01] <robg_> LMJ: try the Medibuntu.org Repository
[19:01] <sivang> hi all
[19:01] <ChaosTheory_> Can I put colors in an echo startup message?
[19:01] <matrix> i am trying to change name on ubuntu launchpad page anyone know how i do that
[19:02] <FrozenFish> anirudh1: all I see are report on  cronjobs
[19:02] <sivang> does anybody know the way to install a pecl extension that doesn't have a deb package? (pop3 extension)
[19:02] <sivang> i'm using php5 from packages
[19:02] <anirudh1> FrozenFish, oops../var/log/xorg/log
[19:02] <anirudh1> *.log
[19:02] <FrozenFish> :)
[19:03] <FrozenFish> anirudh1: it's empty
[19:03] <Lynet> Where are the global mimetypes settings stored?
[19:03] <anirudh1> FrozenFish, Xorg.0.log
[19:04] <Not_A_Noob> Hi all, having a strange bug.  As of last night all of a few apps take FOREVER to open even though 100% cpu usage only last for a few moments.  After the apps do open (FF, Gedit, Totem) they are unusable (everything freezes). Using Hardy under XFCE. Please advise!!
[19:04] <anirudh1> FrozenFish, it should have messages from the current X session atleast
[19:04] <MCCloak> hello, is there way to move or copy only subdirs using bash wildcards?
[19:04] <ifireball> sivang: it its anything like PEAR there should be a command line tool for that, though I had "installed" some such extensions in the past by simply placing the files in the directory with my other PHP files
[19:04] <vanksi> has anyone been able to run vmware server on hardy?
[19:04] <sharms> vanksi - I run vmware workstation beta on hardy
[19:04] <vanksi> i'm getting /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_3.4' not found (required by /usr/lib32/libcairo.so.2)
[19:04] <vanksi> and so on
[19:05] <AaronH> np, koheleth
[19:05] <vanksi> when tryign to run 'sudo vmware'
[19:05] <FrozenFish> anirudh1: also empty
[19:05] <vanksi> sharms, any tips?
[19:05] <wolfwalker> This is a Xubuntu question, but #Xubuntu is dead.  Can someone tell me where volume control is in Xubuntu?
[19:05] <sivang> ifireball: thanks, I think I found a way to get the installation system using apt-get install php-pear
[19:05] <MCCloak> is there way to move or copy only subdirs using bash wildcards?
[19:05] <wolfwalker> Sorry for dragging it to this channel.
[19:05]  * sivang tries that now
[19:05] <sharms> vanski: ya there is some vmware tar file you need to patch it because it isnt new enough to work on hardy.  its vmware-all-some numbers.tar.gz
[19:05] <anirudh1> FrozenFish, stange...do ls -lh /var/log/*org*
[19:05] <sharms> vanksi - you will also need to run vmware-config.pl
[19:06] <anirudh1> FrozenFish, and see of _some_ file has a >0 size
[19:06] <sharms> vanksi - for that I recommend sudo apt-get install build-essential
[19:06] <redwyrm> when I press suspend, my computer doesn't lock the screen. I'm just upgraded to the latest version of ubuntu (8.04). Before the upgrade, it _did_ lock the screen when I pressed the suspend button. how do I fix this?
[19:06] <xintron> I found a script for taking screenshots. it uses "import $PATH"/"$filename" to save the image. However, this gives me a cross so I can select the window to photo. Is there a way to just get a screenshot of the whole screen? Pressing esc or something like that?
[19:06] <erUSUL> wolfwalker: ask in #bash
[19:06] <wolfwalker> Heh
[19:06] <killerboy_> please somebody help me
[19:06] <FrozenFish> anirudh1: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 46K 2008-05-24 19:45 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:06] <Kovecses> killerboy_, whats the problem?
[19:06] <killerboy_> is there any grapgical program with apt-file functionality
[19:07] <Kovecses> killerboy_, yes
[19:07] <koheleth> AaronH, thanks a lot, its works a treat :)
[19:07] <Flannel> wolfwalker: I believe there's a panel applet, but there should also be a preference dialog thing
[19:07] <kreib> is it possible to have a system installed not on / but in /dirname ?
[19:07] <killerboy_> i've serached google and found nothing
[19:07] <vanksi> sharms, yeah, ive installed the batch and build-essentials and ran the config
[19:07] <Kovecses> killerboy_, synaptic
[19:07] <anirudh1> FrozenFish, it has a non-zero size!
[19:07] <dimas869> i am having problem with my gnome language translator
[19:07] <killerboy_> how to set it up?
[19:07] <MCCloak> killerboy_: adept_manager
[19:07] <vanksi> the problem arises when i'm trying to star the app
[19:07] <anirudh1> FrozenFish, why did you say it was empty?
[19:07] <Kovecses> killerboy_, what version of ubuntu do you have?
[19:07] <killerboy_> how to set synaptic? newest
[19:07] <killerboy_> currset
[19:07] <killerboy_> current
[19:08] <MCCloak> killerboy_: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[19:08] <Kovecses> killerboy_, its in the system > administration menu
[19:08] <FrozenFish> when I open the file with gedit it was empty...
[19:08] <NetTroller> is it possible to run one usb wireless antenna with ndiswrapper..and another usb antenna with the linux driver?
[19:08] <killerboy_> i have synaptic already
[19:08] <MCCloak> killerboy_: so run it
[19:08] <Georgij> Help! When I insert an Empty DVD-RW in my disc nothing happends it says it is not even inserted!
[19:08] <anirudh1> FrozenFish, you have to open it as root..only root has perms...use sudo gedit
[19:08] <killerboy_> i've run it
[19:08] <killerboy_> so?
[19:08] <anirudh1> Georgij, could be coz of scratched
[19:08] <FrozenFish> anirudh1: I did. sudo gedit Xorg.0.log
[19:08] <anirudh1> *scratches
[19:09] <MCCloak> killerboy_: so what do you mean by "set the synaptic"?
[19:09] <dimas869> does anyone uses language translator?..i am having trouble with mine
[19:09] <Georgij> anirudh1 it was just bought from the store
[19:09] <killerboy_> i want to find files in packages which aren't installed
[19:09] <killerboy_> like apt-file do
[19:09] <anirudh1> Georgij, try "sudo mount -t auto /dev/dvd <some-folder>"
[19:09] <Georgij> /media/cdrom0?
[19:10] <act> #linuxac
[19:10] <anirudh1> Georgij, replace <some-folder> by a pre-existing folder
[19:10] <anirudh1> yes..that'd work
[19:10] <sivang> ifireball: i'm missing the phpize command, do you have an idea how to bring it into ubuntu ?
[19:10] <redwyrm> how do I configure what my Toshiba laptop does when the lid closes?
[19:10] <Georgij> mount: No medium found
[19:10] <Kovecses> killerboy_, you can do that with synaptic
[19:11] <anirudh1> sivang, php5-dev
[19:11] <redwyrm> I want it to lock the screen (using xscreensaver)
[19:11] <killerboy_> Kovecses: how?
[19:11] <topinio> salut
[19:11] <Georgij> anirudh1 I got error no medium found
[19:11] <anirudh1> Georgij, linux is'nt recognising you dvd for some reason...no app can do anything
[19:11] <sivang> anirudh1: thanks!
[19:12] <anirudh1> Georgij, try removing..cleaning the lens head and the dvd..and reinsert
[19:12] <Georgij> so u are saying I bought like 20 cds for more then 20 dollars
[19:12] <Georgij> and it aint working?
[19:12] <ChaosTheory_> When I run screen and press backspace when there's nothing there, the terminal goes into seizure mode (unless its yakuake).
[19:12] <mohkohn> Is it normal for firestarter to take a long time to configure?
[19:12] <anirudh1> Georgij, be _very_ careful while cleaning the lens head
[19:12] <ifireball> sivang: you could try a package search by file name with aptitude, its a little tricky, w8
[19:12] <ChaosTheory_> In other words, it flickers very rapidly.
[19:12] <Georgij> it aint dirty
[19:12] <anirudh1> Georgij, no..you are saying that :)
[19:12] <Georgij> It works with any other cd
[19:12] <biella> hmmmm
[19:12] <eracc> Are hardware <> Ubuntu questions on topic here? IOW I am wondering about a hardware RAID controller to use for mirroring drives that will boot Ubuntu.
[19:12] <ifireball> sivang: oh, you've been answered, n/m
[19:13] <anirudh1> Georgij, too bad...last resort then ..try in windows then
[19:13] <sivang> ifireball: but thank you nonetheless :)
[19:13] <Flare183> !raid | eracc
[19:13] <Flannel> ChaosTheory_: you can turn that visible bell into an audio bell if you prefer. ^a ^G will toggle
[19:13] <sivang> ifireball: for some reason searching using dpkg -S phpize didn't give anything
[19:13] <eracc> Flare183, thanks.
[19:13] <killerboy_> ?????
[19:13] <mohkohn> Setting up firestarter (1.0.3-6ubuntu3) .. (it seems frozen??)
[19:13] <anirudh1> Georgij, you mean to say 1 cd=1$
[19:13] <anirudh1> !
[19:13] <Flare183> eracc: no problem Let me know if it works
[19:14] <killerboy_> Kovecses: ???
[19:14] <anirudh1> Georgij, they are looting yuou
[19:14] <anirudh1> *you
[19:14] <Flare183> mohkohn: it may take some time
[19:14] <killerboy_> MCCloak: ???
[19:14] <Georgij> I dont know but they were very expensive
[19:14] <Flare183> looting??
[19:14] <Georgij> like 7 dvds
[19:14] <eracc> Flare183, does this cover specific RAID controllers? I am looking at an Adaptec.
[19:14] <Georgij> for 20 dollars
[19:14] <Flare183> !ot
[19:14] <Georgij> or something
[19:14] <Georgij> DVD RW
[19:14] <mohkohn> Ok Thanks Flare183
[19:14] <Flare183> eracc: umm Idk
[19:14] <anirudh1> Georgij, oh..then ok
[19:14] <Flare183> mohkohn: no problem
[19:14] <eracc> Flare183, heh, ok. I'll go look and see then.
[19:15] <evilbug> if i resize my ubuntu partition with a live disc,is it safe?
[19:15] <Flare183> eracc: ok
[19:15] <Georgij> how can I install Windows Vista
[19:15] <Flare183> evilbug: yes
[19:15] <anirudh1> Georgij, still double the price you get it here for
[19:15] <Georgij> If I cant burn it into a DVD?
[19:15] <Flare183> Georgij: you don't
[19:15] <topinio> salut
[19:15] <ifireball> sivang: because dpkg -S only searches installed packages on only by package name
[19:15] <anirudh1> lol
[19:15] <Georgij> I need it to play games
[19:15] <Flare183> !lol | anirudh1
[19:15] <Georgij> PLease someone help me to install vista
[19:15] <evilbug> Flare183- no danger of messing it up? (there's always a danger,i know)
[19:15] <Georgij> PLEASE
[19:15] <Georgij> I just bought very expensive DVDS that aint working
[19:15] <Flare183> Georgij: Ever heard of Wine?
[19:16] <Georgij> Wine sucks
[19:16] <Georgij> Not even one game I tried works
[19:16] <Assid> err is there a howto on how to setup a headless ubuntu server?
[19:16] <anirudh1> Flare183, i said lol to "dont install vista" :)
[19:16] <Flare183> no actually if you set it up it doesn't suck
[19:16] <Assid> cause Xwindows doesnt start up with out it
[19:16] <Georgij> Well in the Wine webpage
[19:16] <robg_> evilbug: you can delete and downsize parititions using Gparted. Downsizing is safe when there is nothinh on that part of the partition.
[19:16] <Georgij> it says on every game I search for
[19:16] <Flare183> anirudh1: I know just don't use it reguarly
[19:16] <Georgij> Not working only works to install
[19:16] <Flare183> !who
[19:16] <evilbug> robg_- thanks
[19:17] <anirudh1> Georgij, you could try cedega
[19:17] <robg_> evilbug: don't try to move an OS !
[19:17] <laeg> why does ubuntu think it should open .i386 files with wine?
[19:17] <Georgij> What can Cedega do?
[19:17] <eracc> Flare183, hrm, this one does not help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto Excerpt: "This *is* for people who need to access raid arrays they have already created, in my case i am dual booting with winxp and i have a large amount of data i need to access in linux."
[19:17] <anirudh1> Georgij, cedega is meant to play windows games on linux
[19:17] <laeg> i want to run the .i386 files as an executable but ubuntu insists on opening it with something
[19:17] <eracc> I am looking to create hardware RAID that boots Ubuntu.
[19:17] <evilbug> robg_- i just want to cut off some empty space off of it.
[19:18] <Flare183> eracc: ok then... hold on ok?
[19:18] <anirudh1> laeg, you could always run it from the terminal
[19:18] <eracc> Flare183, looking at the other doc now ...
[19:18] <Georgij> It doesn't support all the games though
[19:18] <robg_> evilbug: that is exactly what Gparted is good at.
[19:18] <anirudh1> laeg: but first you'll need to do chmod +x
[19:18] <Flare183> eracc: ok
[19:18] <Georgij> I need Vista to play all the games there is
[19:18] <Assid> err is there a howto on how to setup a headless ubuntu server? cause Xwindows doesnt start up with out it. this is a headless box
[19:18] <evilbug> thanks rob.
[19:18] <anirudh1> Georgij, if it did, we would'nt need windows :)
[19:18] <laeg> anirudh1: isn't setting it to run as an executable in properties the same as chmod +x?
[19:18] <laeg> brb
[19:18] <anirudh1> laeg, yes
[19:19] <laeg> sothen i don't need to do that
[19:19] <Georgij> wouldnt need what?
[19:19] <laeg> i am running it from terminal
[19:19] <Flare183> eracc: look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Raid
[19:19] <jrib> Assid: did you install ubuntu server?
[19:19] <eracc> Flare183, ok, thanks.
[19:19] <laeg> anirudh1: are you certain this makes sure it's not opening it with another program?
[19:19] <Flare183> !who | laeg, Georgij
[19:19] <anirudh1> laeg:no
[19:19] <robg_> evilbug: don't push your luck with downsizing.
[19:19] <Assid> jrib: yeah i asked them to do that for me
[19:20] <jrib> Assid: I'm not sure what you are asking.  X isn't installed in the server version
[19:20] <satish> I'm upgrading to 8.04 from 7.10 and the when the update manager was showing that the process had less than one min to complete, the update manager showed en error and quit. How can I make sure that the upgrade is successful?
[19:20] <anirudh1> laeg, just change the name of the file...thats probably easier
[19:20] <evilbug> robg_- i don't care that much,ubuntu's not my main os.
[19:20] <Assid> jrib: right.. but i can optionally install it
[19:20] <Georgij> Anirudh1, can you help me privately? Please.
[19:20] <anirudh1> satish: the downloaded files are not lost
[19:20] <anirudh1> Georgij, PM
[19:20] <jrib> Assid: right, but why since it is headless?
[19:20] <erUSUL> satish: run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" then "lsb_release -a"
[19:20] <anirudh1> satish, they are in /var/cache/apt/
[19:20] <laeg> aimtrainer_: to what?
[19:20] <robg_> evilbug: you can easily downsize a swap partition. That does not contain data. You may however not delete it.
[19:20] <Ballena> should the bootflag be set to 'on' on the primary partition that I'm going to install Ubuntu on?
[19:21] <laeg> anirudh1: to what?
[19:21] <anirudh1> satish, as erUSUL  says ....
[19:21] <satish> anirudh1: yes they are there in /var/cache/apt/archive
[19:21] <Assid> jrib: the person whose gonna admin it is umm.. not console savvy.. so i think i might have to get him a vnc access to it
[19:21] <killerboy_> i see that nobody knows
[19:21] <anirudh1> laeg, change the extension to .run or something...then make sure it is executavle
[19:21] <killerboy_> maybe there isn't such program!!!!!!!
[19:22] <jrib> Assid: you don't need all of X for that afaik.  googling "headless ubuntu server vnc" turns up some promising results
[19:22] <anirudh1> killerboy_, what does apt-file do?
[19:22] <anirudh1> satish, so you dont need to waste bandwidth downloading again
[19:22] <anirudh1> !apt-file
[19:22] <killerboy_> anirudh1: when you know the name of file ot gives you the name of package
[19:23] <ifireball> killerboy_: what are you looking for?
[19:23] <anirudh1> dpkg-query does the same thing
[19:23] <killerboy_> graphical interface to apt-file
[19:23] <anirudh1> killerboy_, konqueror has it
[19:23] <Georgij> Do I have to pay to download Cedega?
[19:23] <anirudh1> killerboy_, type apt:/ to bring it up
[19:23] <Flannel> Ballena: Traditionally yes, but the boot flag is mostly obsolete.  It certainly wouldn't hurt though.
[19:23] <ifireball> killerboy_: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[19:23] <killerboy_> ifireball: some graphical program which do the same as apt-file
[19:23] <killerboy_> ifireball: not helpfull
[19:24] <Ballena> Flannel: ok thanks
[19:24] <erUSUL> Georgij: for a stable version yes: Cvs is accesible by anyone though
[19:24] <laeg> anirudh1: i did that and removed wine from the open with tab of properties but i'm still not able to switch workspaces in game
[19:24] <Jessica601> err... ummm.... in command line sftp, how can you d/l a whole directory tree?
[19:24] <ifireball> killerboy_: why not? faster then having to generate the database in your own
[19:24] <guax> hello, im looking for the configurations of X Server, but the xorg.conf file is incomplete its have just the identifier i dont know how ubuntu handles the rest of configuration but im looking for the informations of Device Section
[19:24] <anirudh1> laeg, but that was;nt what you asked before !
[19:24] <killerboy_> hmm
[19:24] <Georgij> What is the diffrence betwen the real version and the cvs?
[19:24] <killerboy_> it doesnt generate anything
[19:24] <laeg> anirudh1: lol
[19:24]  * laeg runs
[19:24] <killerboy_> ifireball: it only downloads some files once
[19:25] <laeg> anirudh1: i wanted to make sure the reason i couldn't switch workspaces isn't because it's running with wine
[19:25] <satish> erUSUL: While upgrading, it was not able to upgrade one package - slapd. lsb_release -a is showing the release as 8.04
[19:25] <killerboy_> and actualizes it like
[19:25] <laeg> *wasn't
[19:25] <Flannel> Georgij: "real" version is the one they've released to the public, cvs is less stable, because its got experimental code in it, etc.
[19:25] <killerboy_> *refreshes
[19:25] <anirudh1> Georgij, cvs is bleeding edge...may not compile correctly
[19:25] <erUSUL> satish: what's the error? pastebin
[19:25] <erUSUL> !pastebin | satish
[19:25] <killerboy_> ifireball: i don't want to use net for such simple thing
[19:25] <killerboy_> ifireball: i'm on laptop
[19:26] <Georgij> How to get real version without paying?
[19:26] <erUSUL> Georgij: no warez or piracy in here
[19:26] <laeg> !piracy | Georgij
[19:26] <ifireball> killerboy_: well, I suppose you could whip up a simple GUI with some scripting and gdialog, or maybe someone wrote a deskbar plugin for it
[19:26] <Nostahl> hi everyone. i just installed ubuntu and chose a username/password that i've ALWAYS used     doing the first login and its tellin me its the wrong account .... is there a way i can setup the account without reinstalling the OS
[19:26] <satish> anirudh1: http://pastebin.com/m7c5bb3a
[19:26] <Georgij> well I just bought 7 cds to burn vista to it so i can play games but stupid linux doesn't recognize the cds of course
[19:27] <killerboy_> ifireball: fine, thanks, so i was right there is no such program, gee, thanks
[19:27] <Georgij> I hate ubottu its a spammer bann it
[19:27] <PPKuma> hi, why the gmail hotkeys don't work? is it a common problem in ubuntu?
[19:27] <erUSUL> Nostahl: boot into recovery mode and add a a new user then make sure you add it to the admin group
[19:27] <Darkchef> anyone have any experience with using steam under linux, it seems to be eating a lot of my cpu and now the sound has gone
[19:27] <Darkchef> ?
[19:27] <ifireball> killerboy_: well, not sure about that, because I never really looked
[19:27] <Flare183> ...
[19:28] <Flannel> Nostahl: double check that you've typed it in properly (capslock, etc), if that doesn't work, reboot, right after POST, you'll see a "Press escape to go to the grub menu", do that, then choose the recovery console.  From there, you can reset the password: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[19:28] <jrib> erUSUL, Nostahl: why not just reset the password and verify the first user's name is correct?
[19:28] <Nostahl> k goin into recoverymode now
[19:28] <Flannel> Nostahl: You can verify the username with 'cat /etc/passwd'
[19:29] <jrib> Nostahl: or just do: ls /home
[19:29] <MrPink> Ok I have a problem with the ZSNES Emulator, I don't have any sound, I tried starting it with sudo, but it doesn't work... any idea?
[19:29] <Flannel> Oh, hmm, yeah that'd be much more friendly.
[19:29] <Nostahl> k drop to root shell prompt?
[19:29] <Flannel> Nostahl: yeah
[19:29] <eracc> Flare183, that last URL contained this: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html which has an excellent section on SATA RAID controllers. Very helpful. Thanks.
[19:30] <Flare183> eracc: You are very welcome
[19:30] <Nostahl> ok now do i reset password
[19:30] <Darkchef> MrPink : in settings try and change the audio driver
[19:30] <Flannel> Nostahl: first check to see the username, ls /home
[19:30] <Nostahl> aye its the username i thought it was
[19:31] <Flannel> Nostahl: alright, then passwd [user]
[19:31] <erUSUL> jrib: Nostahl yes you can take a look at the output of "cat /etc/passwd | cut -f1,3 -d: | grep 1000" to see what's the username you provided during installation
[19:31]  * Lord_Devi jabs osxdude with a sharp pointy stick
[19:31] <Nostahl> k
[19:31] <MrPink> Darkchef: Change it to what?
[19:31] <erUSUL> Nostahl: Flannel ooops ls /home/ is way easier XXDD
[19:32] <Darkchef> MrPink - what is it set to now?
[19:32] <Nostahl> k lets see if it set up right now
[19:32] <Flannel> erUSUL: Yeah, I had him cating passwd too, then jrib suggested /home
[19:32] <Nostahl> there we go
[19:32] <Nostahl> i must have misspelt my password accidentaly
[19:32] <Nostahl> heh
[19:32] <Adys> hey peeps. Im trying to get a bootable ubuntu on an external hd, the hd has two partitions, 430gb ext3 data and 70gb ext3 for ubuntu - i installed ubuntu fine on it, the bootloader is on the external hd too, but when i boot grub gives me an error 15 (file not found) - any idea whats wrong?
[19:32] <MrPink> Darkchef:  HDA Intel (Alsa Mixer)     is what it says behind Device:
[19:32] <MrPink> Darkchef: Is that what you mean?
[19:33] <osxdude> ow, Lord_Devi
[19:33] <robg_> Adys: your computer will probably attempt to boot from the primary harddisk.
[19:33] <osxdude> wth?
[19:33] <Flare183> !language
[19:33] <osxdude> my laptop runs ubuntu.
[19:33] <rym> I just updated my ubuntu version to 8.04, now grub shows me two ubuntu installs, both 8.04
[19:34] <rym> one with the new kernel, one with the old one
[19:34] <Adys> robg_, im forcing boot on external hd, if i let it run on regular hd it runs fine (im on it atm)
[19:34] <rym> i can edit the grub loader, thats not a problem. But is it normal for ubuntu to do this ?
[19:34] <Darkchef> MrPink - no not really, that seems ok, your running under wine right ?
[19:34] <osxdude> That's ok rym, that's so you can downgrade the kernel incase of problems.
[19:34] <robg_> rym: you can use gparted to delete one Ubuntu
[19:34] <rym> Ahh okay
[19:34] <osxdude> rym, it will always boot into the newest kernel.
[19:34] <MrPink> Darkchef: No I am not.. there is a Linux version
[19:34] <rym> allright
[19:34] <rym> Allrighty
[19:35] <robg_> Adys: this is hardware specific. If the machine will do it fine, if not bad luck.
[19:35] <PPKuma> hi, why the gmail hotkeys don't work? is it a common problem in ubuntu?
[19:35] <Adys> robg_, File not found in grub is  not hardware specific oO
[19:35] <Darkchef> MrPink - hmmm sorry i dont think i can help, id guess it was a driver problem or probably pulseaudio. im always have damned sound issues with it
[19:35] <Flare183> !enter | rym
[19:35] <Flare183> !language | Darkchef
[19:35] <robg_> Adys: I do not care much for software or reports
[19:35] <rym> Also, in 7.1 i had compiz set to show my desktop in the bottom left corner, i did this trough some workaround
[19:36] <Darkchef> !language | Flare183
[19:36] <rym> only now the option is completely removed, to show desktop via screen corner?
[19:36] <Flare183> Darkchef: Don't mess with me...
[19:36] <Adys> robg_, fine by me but then you dont have to answer if you dont care :/
[19:36] <Primo> Hey does anyone know how to configue ubuntu to reas all the memory on the Mobo?
[19:36] <Darkchef> Flare183 - haha im joking
[19:36] <Flare183> Darkchef: It's ok
[19:36] <crash91> How do i reset my gnome startup scripts to the default state?
[19:36] <robg_> Adys: ask your hardware manufacturer if it is possible.
[19:36] <marcel_> I am trying to install Ubuntu 7.04 when I get to the partitioning part it gives me only the "Manual" option ( I would like to wipe out the whole drive) and when I click next, it tells me that "No /root file system was selected" but I do not see anything at all on the screen I could choose from. What's wrong?
[19:36] <erUSUL> Primo: more than 4 GB and 32 bits??
[19:37] <Tunichtgut> could someone explain this sentence to me, my english is not that good:
[19:37] <Tunichtgut> that the last insertion done around them was prior to the last time u was an
[19:37] <Tunichtgut> +insertion center
[19:37] <Darkchef> marcel - you havent set a partition to root using gparted in the installer
[19:37] <n3uromanc3r> !netboot
[19:37] <Adys> robg_, that isn't the problem, I know it's possible to boot from usb; However if I run another bootloader on the main hd it gives me an error 15
[19:37] <Flare183> Tunichtgut: What other language do you speak?
[19:38] <n3uromanc3r> why has the netboot info on the ubuntu site not been updated with the hardy methodology?
[19:38] <Tunichtgut> german
[19:38] <Primo> $ GB exactly, But Ubuntu say 2,9 GB,?
[19:38] <Flare183> !german > Tunichtgut
[19:38] <jrib> Tunichtgut: that's not english, but this also isn't an english help channel
[19:38] <sharms> n3uromanc3r - if you know a better process, update it
[19:38] <robg_> marcel: you can overwrite the drive with a new OS.
[19:38] <Flannel> Primo: What are you looking for?  Total harddrive spaced used?
[19:38] <Tunichtgut> u know where i can find an english help channel ?
[19:38]  * Flare183 though #ubuntu was english
[19:38] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: no I dont' but the current method DOES NOT WORK with hardy! so it needs updating
[19:38] <Flannel> Flare183: it is in english, not about english
[19:38] <Flare183> !en
[19:39] <robg_> Adys: if something is possible then it should happen.
[19:39] <osxdude> uh
[19:39] <sharms> n3uromanc3r - that is what this whole 'open source' / 'free software' deal is, people have to contribute their free time to have these things be done
[19:39] <Flare183> oh come on
[19:39] <osxdude> wekcime to the english help channel
[19:39] <erUSUL> Primo: that's a common probelm to 32 bits operating systems and 4 GB of memory ... you need the 64 bit version or a different kernel (server ??)
[19:39] <Adys> robg_, nevermind :p
[19:39] <sharms> n3uromanc3r - anywho, what is the link and where is your issue with it?
[19:39] <Primo> Hi Flannel, No, I installed 4 Gig of Ram but ubuntu is telling me it sees ONLY 2.9 Gig.
[19:39] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: erm I'm quite aware of the way the system works.  its called CANONICAL and they have people PAID to do this ;)
[19:40] <jagggy> any games for linux like footbal games/managers ???
[19:40] <sharms> n3uromanc3r - they are very small and cannot create a distro by themselves
[19:40] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: FOSS in general derives from contributers who donta their free time yes
[19:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[19:40] <sharms> n3uromanc3r - and I am sure if you purchase a support contract they would be more than happy to help
[19:40] <marcel_> when I click on Gpart,  a windows opens, but again there is nothing I could select - something wrong with the drive?
[19:40] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: the documentation is free but out-of-date
[19:40] <Guest956> does anyone know how to get the box that shows up next to people when you point to them? it shows their level, and health and who they belong to and i cant get it off my screen and its making me a little mad
[19:41] <tomd123> jagggy: go to add/remove and search for football. I can't tell you since I'm not using linux right now :(
[19:41] <sharms> n3uromanc3r - anyway, I am offering to tell you how to do it, but you only got about 10 minutes of my time so sent me the link in which you are reading and what step failed
[19:41] <Martiini> Canonical is Mark Shuttleworth company that provides support for Ubuntu .. like suse or red hat do
[19:41] <Flannel> n3uromanc3r: The wiki pages are all done through the community.  If I you're saying what I think you're saying.
[19:41] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: thank you ;0)
[19:41] <tdubose71> hello could i get some help setting up my wireless in hardy heron? i'm in a bit of a tricky situation.
[19:41] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: 2 secs
[19:42] <Billenium> how do i find what partitions i have?
[19:42] <Billenium> like /dev/sd**
[19:42] <Martiini> tdubose71:  shoot
[19:42] <Billenium> ect
[19:42] <Flannel> Billenium: sudo fdisk -l (that's a lowercase L)
[19:42] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[19:42] <mnemo> someone should assign a dev to this bug (7 duplicates and 40+ comments), it should not be "low importance" it affects almost everyone --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libflashsupport/+bug/183917
[19:42] <erUSUL> Billenium: ls -al /dev/disk/by-id/ for example
[19:43] <Flannel> mnemo: #ubuntu-bugs
[19:43] <erUSUL> Billenium: "sudo fdisk -l" its another way
[19:43] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: it says tftp timeout erroe
[19:43] <tdubose71> ok i'm dual booting ubuntu and windows. i'm logged in under windows right now. i'm at a coffee shop that only has wireless trying to do the setup. so when i try to install my windows driver it tries to connect to the wired connection which doesn't work.
[19:43] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: error ;)
[19:43] <mnemo> Flannel: ah cool there is a channel for talking about bugs.. nice :)
[19:43] <Primo> Sorry erUSUL, I thought someone else was answering me, I have 4 Gig of Ram but Ubuntu says ONLY 2.0 Gig
[19:44] <sharms> n3uromanc3r - and this "timeout error" occurs on the PC you wish to image when you select "network boot" right?
[19:44] <erUSUL> Primo: have you read my response?
[19:44] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: yes
[19:44] <sharms> n3uromanc3r - you are able to successfully obtain an DHCP address on the network?
[19:44] <Primo> ErUSUL I may have missed it find who answered me
[19:44] <erUSUL> Primo: that's a common probelm to 32 bits operating systems and 4 GB of memory ... you need the 64 bit version or a different kernel (server ??)
[19:44] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: tried a couple of methods all different.  some didn't even get to that stage and didn't find a tftp server
[19:45] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: I think so yes
[19:45] <Kovecses> tdubose71, u google it?
[19:45] <Kovecses> !wireless
[19:45] <PPKuma> anybody here uses gmail shortcuts?
[19:45] <Primo> erUSUL I have th64 bit verion of Ubuntu but it would not install so I used the 32 bit version.
[19:46] <tdubose71> right, i've read all that. but they all assume i have a wired connection to the net.
[19:46] <sharms> n3uromanc3r - install the 'tftp-hpa' package on the tftp server
[19:46] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: when I connect the same ethernet to my xbox it says 192.168.1.101 but with the pc it says 192.168.1.254 is that right?
[19:46] <erUSUL> Primo: then the option is to use a different kernel with highmem support
[19:46] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: i have already bu removed it.. are you giving me instructions step by step?
[19:47] <sharms> n3uromanc3r - and tell me if you are able to connect using "tfp localhost"
[19:47] <enzo_> .es ??
[19:47] <sharms> n3uromanc3r - this is just to make sure tftp works
[19:47] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: 2 secs
[19:47] <Primo> Thanks erUSUL I will try that.
[19:47] <geektern> I just installed nvidia-glx and restarted X but i loss them min max and close buttons, and the terminal windows is showing up as just a white screen. What am I suppose to do to get it to work, I really need help?
[19:47] <n3uromanc3r> sharms:  i get this tftp>
[19:48] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: client is not turned on
[19:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Primo At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[19:48] <sharms> n3uromanc3r - do you know the name of the bootp file you need to download?
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Primo that may get 64 bit to install
[19:49] <sharms> n3uromanc3r - might be named netboot.something
[19:49] <n3uromanc3r> ﻿sharms: yes
[19:49] <n3uromanc3r> ﻿sharms: got the folder and extracted to tftp folder
[19:49] <n3uromanc3r> sharms:  in etc/....
[19:50] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: it contained linuxpxe.0 amongst other things
[19:50] <unimatrix9> is there an list of öut of the box "working wireless cards for ubuntu 8.04?
[19:50] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow, I had similar issue when i first started, but noapic... didn't work, I had to use vga=771, do you know why/what difference?
[19:50] <sharms> n3uromanc3r - ok right on, does "GET pxelinux.cfg" work with that client?
[19:50] <unimatrix9> if not i wish there was...
[19:50] <Inazad> someone heres got a Ph.D in Computer Sciences ?
[19:50] <unimatrix9> pci version
[19:50] <NthDegree> !wireless
[19:50] <sshirley> Hi all. Anyonr have any experience with sdparm?
[19:51] <NthDegree> err
[19:51] <NthDegree> wrong factoid
[19:51] <n3uromanc3r> ﻿sharms: ? do i run this on the server machine?
[19:51] <NthDegree> unimatrix9, one second
[19:51] <unimatrix9> ok
[19:51] <sharms> n3uromanc3r - technically you can run it from any machine on the network.  You are using tftpd-hpa as the server correct?
[19:51] <NthDegree> unimatrix9, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[19:51] <oxigen> that sucks, i can't use xchat with 800x480 resolution
[19:51] <NthDegree> unimatrix9, enjoy ;)
[19:52] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: yes but the client has nothing on
[19:52] <erUSUL> !ohmy | oxigen
[19:52] <oxigen> doh
[19:52] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: it has no cd/floppy disc / usb!
[19:52] <oxigen> pope channel
[19:52] <NthDegree> hahaha
[19:52] <unimatrix9> hmm, wwell i did look at that site, although its good info, its just not sure, and not in the shops
[19:53] <eekrano> msg nickserv identify cancel
[19:53] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: at the moment all files i needed are removed apart from the tftp-hpa package you requested I dl
[19:53] <Flannel> eekrano: You'll want to change that password
[19:53] <sshirley> Is a 3mb/sec buffered read transfer rate bad for a SATA dvd drive?
[19:53] <eekrano> Flannel, haha
[19:53] <NthDegree> unimatrix9, ask if anyone has got the one you need support for and if it works or not
[19:53] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: I need to start again from scratch with a process that works ;)
[19:53] <unimatrix9> ok
[19:53] <NthDegree> unimatrix9, a fellow user having it working is the best reassurance going
[19:54] <LaKiLaKi> ifireball:  root  6309  0.0  0.0   4908   660 ?  Ss   01:51   0:00 /usr/sbin/squid -D -sYC (what is '?' mean?)
[19:54] <sshirley> And should I be using SDPARM instead of HDPARM?
[19:54] <Vedalken> Is it possible to view my ubuntu machine's Desktop or whatever via a windows computer across the web? If so, how would i go about enabling it?
[19:55] <oxigen> also, whats wrong with a word suck or sucks?
[19:55] <eekrano> damn coffee hasn't kicked in yet
[19:55] <sharms> n3uromanc3r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/   -- I want you to paste the output of this:   sudo dpkg -l | grep -i tftp; cat /etc/default/tftpd-hpa; cat /etc/bootptab; cat /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default
[19:55] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: once I've installed all this server stuff is my pc safe by just purging the packages. - i am not that advanced in the field of servers unfortunaley
[19:55] <Billenium> Is there anyway to format a partition/hard drive from the command line?
[19:55] <jrib> oxigen: feel free to use it, just stay on topic
[19:55] <Ballena> the default installation of ubuntu Server Edition seems to come with no graphical interface. How do I get it( KDE is what I want).
[19:55] <eekrano> anyone willing to give a hand with the infamous "no sound" issue with audigy and hardy?
[19:56] <erUSUL> Billenium: parted ; or callling mkfs directly on the device
[19:56] <sshirley> When I play movies on my Mythbuntu box, sometimes the DVD skips a bit. I think it can't handle it due to current settings
[19:56] <sharms> Ballena-  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:56] <Ballena> sharms: thanks!
[19:56] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14378/
[19:56] <ThuxStar> oxigen: Good stuff
[19:56] <AaronH> Vedalken, yes, you just have to go to System>Preferences>Remote Desktop..... then you can download tightvnc to the windows maching and access your ubuntu
[19:56] <sshirley> So I wasn't sure if I should be using sdparm or hdparm
[19:56] <ifireball> LaKiLaKi: I don't know, I guess you should look in the squid documentation for answers...
[19:56] <erUSUL> sshirley: check dmesg mesages to see how it gets configured
[19:57] <oxigen> jrib: ok, thanks. is xchat on topic?
[19:57] <sharms> n3uromanc3r - ok your problem is you dont have a tftp server installed
[19:57] <Vedalken> AaronH: thanks
[19:57] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: I removed the config files too.  but don't know how to halt the server process.  - when removing the first time I got errors.  ran it again and it worked.
[19:57] <LaKiLaKi> uhh.. uhh..
[19:57] <jrib> oxigen: support issues sure.  There's also #xchat
[19:57] <sshirley> erUSUL: 'dmesg /dev/scd0'?
[19:57] <oxigen> jrib: ok
[19:57] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: interesting?! i did sudo apt-get install tftp-hpa
[19:57] <erUSUL> sshirley: "dmesg | grep ata" --> [    3.767298] ata6.00: ATAPI: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A, 1.01, max UDMA/33 (in my case)
[19:58] <Combat_Wombat> could use some help --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766308
[19:58] <TechieDragon> I have a simple scripting question.  Here is the line in the script ls -l %1.  When I call the script; ll z* I only get one file listed.  When I call the script ll 'z*' I get all the right files listed.  Any ideas?
[19:58] <elmalafacha> does anyone knows how to make ubunu detect a wireless card
[19:58] <elmalafacha> ?
[19:58] <sharms> n3uromanc3r - yup that is the client, the tftpd-hpa is the server.  This is not very straight forward and a bit confusing.  Watch planet.ubuntu.com in the next few weeks and I will post a step by step guide for hardy
[19:58] <vodka> ubuntu turk
[19:59] <sharms> n3uromanc3r - until then, the tutorial I originally followed that worked for me was: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_pxe_install_server
[19:59] <AaronH> elmalafacha, see if ubuntu already detects it with this command "sudo lshw -C network"
[19:59] <sharms> n3uromanc3r - its 7 pages, but works very well and covers a bunch
[19:59] <manoff> excuse me. while i know that this is a bit off-topic but i am reading one autotools tutorial and i see this line: "AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE([-Wall -Werror foreign])" i wonder what is this foreign gcc option all about (?)
[19:59] <sshirley> erUSUL: ata3.00: ATAPI: HL-DT-ST DVD+/-RW GSA-H73N, B103, max UDMA/100
[19:59] <erUSUL> sshirley: my unit does 3 MB/s too
[19:59] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: thank you. you've been more than helpful
[19:59] <sshirley> erUSUL: Thats not good is it? 'max UDMA/100'?
[19:59] <sharms> n3uromanc3r - good luck!
[20:00] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: cheers ;)
[20:00] <erUSUL> sshirley: yep mine is udma/33  ;P
[20:00] <Georgij> Why is Cedega not compitable with any game at all
[20:00] <elmalafacha> AaronH, *-network:0 UNCLAIMED
[20:00] <elmalafacha>        description: Ethernet controller
[20:00] <elmalafacha>        product: RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller
[20:00] <elmalafacha>        vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
[20:00] <elmalafacha>        physical id: 9
[20:00] <FloodBot3> elmalafacha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:00] <elmalafacha>        bus info: pci@0000:00:09.0
[20:00] <sshirley> erUSUL: Wow! So it's about as good as it's gonna get?
[20:00] <erUSUL> !paste | elmalafacha
[20:00] <n3uromanc3r> !pastebin | ﻿elmalafacha
[20:01] <vodka_> turklerın kanlaı hangısıydı
[20:01] <vodka_> babalar
[20:01] <Vedalken> AaronH: i have a VPN linksys router model number: WRV54G. Will i need to enable port forwarding on the router?
[20:01] <vodka_> ayrıca mac os x
[20:01] <vodka_> dosyaları
[20:01] <erUSUL> sshirley: yep i think (there may be other tweakable through hdparm=
[20:01] <Georgij> CAn someone please help me fix VISTA on my PC without burning it to a dvd since my rom cant burn dvds but I have the ISO for Vista can someone help me burn please I just want to be able to play games on my comp
[20:01] <vodka_> .dmg open the files ?????
[20:01] <sshirley> erUSUL: Should I use sdparm instead of hdparm?
[20:01] <vodka_> ubuntu
[20:01] <elmalafacha> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14379/
[20:01] <PPKuma> hi, why the gmail hotkeys don't work? is it a common problem in ubuntu?
[20:01] <erUSUL> Georgij: vista issues are discussed in ##windows
[20:01] <vodka_> turklerın kanal asdı nel leng
[20:02] <elmalafacha> AaronH, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14379/
[20:02] <vodka_> turklerın gırdıgı kanala adı nedır
[20:02] <erUSUL> sshirley: if you can make some sense of the command ... its man page scares the hell out of me
[20:02] <Georgij> I have ubuntu want to dual boot with vista how can that be windows related Windows user doesnt even know what linux is
[20:02] <eekrano> anyone give a hand with no sound on hardy (audigy) ?
[20:02] <vodka_> alooow
[20:02] <daftpun1> hi
[20:02] <erUSUL> Georgij: what do you want to fix??
[20:02] <vodka_> turks
[20:02] <vodka_> where are you
[20:02] <vodka_> turks
[20:02] <vodka_> :)))
[20:02] <sshirley> erUSUL: Yeah....the manpage is not good
[20:02] <FloodBot3> vodka_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:02] <erUSUL> !enter | vodka_
[20:03] <daftpun1> Does anybody knows about something like Zend Studio with no licence needed?
[20:03] <vodka_> turklerımız nerde leng bızım
[20:03] <TechieDragon> Anyone have any suggestions?
[20:03] <robg_> Georgij: find a friend who can help you., Installing systems is not easy.
[20:03] <vodka_> .dmg files oprn the ubuntu????
[20:03] <Georgij> erusul i bought dvds from the shop but i just discovered i cant burn dvds now I need to install vista on my pc without burning the iso into a dvd I need to boot the iso or something somehow please help me
[20:03] <daftpun1> Zend studio equivalent?
[20:03] <Combat_Wombat> need some help: --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766308
[20:04] <vodka_> mac os x files open the ubuntu emulator ?????
[20:04] <elmalafacha> the last version of ubuntu, detected my wireless but when I cjaneg to the new one it doesnt
[20:04] <robg_> Georgij: get local help.
[20:04] <sshirley> erUSUL: Is UDMA/133 good for hard drives? They're SATAII.
[20:04] <Vedalken> Does anyone know if a WRV54G linksys router would need either a VPN tunnel or Port forwarding enabled on the router for Remote Desktop to work?
[20:04] <kburts> hello....
[20:04] <Georgij> I cannot my friends live far far away from me
[20:04] <vodka_> wireless problem ubuntu new versıon
[20:05] <kburts> hello?
[20:05] <erUSUL> sshirley: tht's the maximun it will report ... UDMA settings makes no much sense on a sata drive (they are legacy from pata days)
[20:05] <kburts> am i hearable?
[20:05] <ish_nitti> kburts, can you hear me now?
[20:05] <ish_nitti> lol
[20:05] <kburts> yep
[20:05] <kburts> ty
[20:05] <vodka_> turkler nerde len
[20:05] <robg_> Georgij: hire a consultant.
[20:05] <vodka_> :)
[20:05] <kburts> my first time on this!
[20:05] <elmalafacha> vodka_, can you help me?
[20:05] <ish_nitti> kburts, welcome.
[20:05] <vodka_> yes
[20:05] <AaronH> elmalafacha, http://ge.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?s=7c2d3b4a631ab8e6eb5d9f8ec5acd3d6&t=491680&page=1
[20:05] <erUSUL> Georgij: i do not know a way to boot a computer from an iso file in a hard disk
[20:06] <Imp4kT> Can anyone using xchat tell me how to do text formatting such as bold and underline?
[20:06] <vodka_> elmalafatca
[20:06] <punkk> ubuntu is exciting : )
[20:06] <[TiZ]> Okay, my Wubi backup's done. Okay, now the million dollar question. Which partition utility will keep my data the safest when I resize?
[20:06] <vodka_> ypu turks?
[20:06] <gyver> erUSUL just go into your bios and change the setting to boot from cd
[20:06] <ish_nitti> Vedalken, if the box you want to remote desktop TO has a static ip on the private network and you forward the RDP port to that static ip, it should work no problem.
[20:06] <elmalafacha> ndiswrapper didnt worked
[20:06] <erUSUL> [TiZ]: gparted ??
[20:06] <ish_nitti> elmalafacha, are you on 32bit or 64bit?
[20:06] <gyver> but that is if you already burned the iso file on disk
[20:06] <AaronH> did you try the win98 drivers?
[20:06] <vodka_> elmafatcha second problem
[20:07] <erUSUL> gyver: you didin't understand ... not from a cd from an iso on the hard drive
[20:07] <sshirley> Can anyone help out erUSUL and me with sdparm? :-)
[20:07] <punkk> this is the help section right. I have a simple question.
[20:07] <ish_nitti> !question punkk
[20:07] <vodka_> mac os x files open the emulator??the ubuntu
[20:07] <ish_nitti> !question | punkk
[20:07] <[TiZ]> erUSUL, okay. I plan on resizing and then returning to windows to see if everything went okay. If something messed up, can I return the parition to its original size to fix it?
[20:08] <elmalafacha> 64 bit
[20:08] <punkk> Alright, I would like to install Wine but I cannot figure out how to install it.
[20:08] <gyver> erUSUL can you tell me a little more i just got on
[20:08] <elmalafacha> yeah ive tried
[20:08] <erUSUL> [TiZ]: yes you can. i recomend to defrag windows first
[20:08] <vodka_> wine emulator problem camfrog program eror
[20:08] <AaronH> punkk, do "sudo apt-get install wine"
[20:08] <gyver> what are you trying to do
[20:08] <erUSUL> gyver: i was helping someone else
[20:08] <gyver> o
[20:09] <[TiZ]> erUSUL, I've defragmented my data partition many many many times. Unfortunately, I can't get data away from the end of the partition. Is there software available to rearrange the data there intuitively?
[20:09] <erUSUL> [TiZ]: also; repartitioning an hd is allways risky so make backups
[20:09] <vodka_> bur camfrog chat program not open vine emulator
[20:09] <punkk> Im sorry im very new. Were would I type that.
[20:09] <vodka_> help
[20:09] <vodka_> :))
[20:09] <AaronH> punkk, in the terminal
[20:09] <sshirley> Or is hdparm simply used on SATA drives?
[20:09] <erUSUL> [TiZ]: in theory gparted will do it .
[20:09] <robg_> TiZ: don't do it TiZ
[20:09] <sshirley> Or is hdparm simply used on sata drives?
[20:09] <[TiZ]> robg_, why the heck not?
[20:10]  * TechieDragon grumble
[20:10] <punkk> AaronH, Thanks alot.. : )
[20:10] <vodka_> turk chanel ???
[20:10] <robg_> TiZ: you cannot re-arrange an installed OS.
[20:10] <AaronH> punkk, after you install wine, you need to run "windcfg"
[20:11] <vodka_> latif
[20:11] <vodka_> baba
[20:11] <AaronH> punkk, after you install wine, you need to run "winecfg"    **FIXED**
[20:11] <vodka_> turk kanalı
[20:11] <vodka_> yokmu burda
[20:11] <erUSUL> sshirley: you can use hdparm on sata drives but the effect is minor sata drives are autoconfigred by the kernel driver to optimun values and there is nothing you can "force" on them
[20:11] <FloodBot3> vodka_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:11] <obnibolongo> hey guys what do you do when a Windows greys out in Hardy Heron (because it stopped responding) and after it returns to work normally it still stays gray? (besides closing and reopening the app....)
[20:11] <[TiZ]> robg_, it's Wubi. Wubi is installed onto a virtual disk, and utilities exist for the purpose of moving it to a dedicated partition.
[20:11] <steven_> I have an nVidia GeForce 6800 with two monitors in "TwinView". When I maximize it spans across both screens. I would like it to just maximize in one. No luck with Google.
[20:11] <elmalafacha> vodka_, could you help me step by step?
[20:11] <latif> merhaba..
[20:11] <vodka_> ok
[20:11] <[TiZ]> In other words, robg_, it is intended to be moved to a dedicated partition.
[20:11] <vodka_> elmalafatcha
[20:11] <robg_> TiZ: I do not knwo Wubi, is it an application ?
[20:12] <vodka_> latif
[20:12] <SDr> hey
[20:12] <vodka_> turkler ner len
[20:12] <vodka_> namıssız
[20:12] <Combat_Wombat> need some help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766308 or at least an acknowledgement that someone has at least cared enough to look but theres no solution...
[20:12] <[TiZ]> robg_, Wubi is a Windows installer for Ubuntu. It creates virtual disk images that Ubuntu is intalled to, and the virtual disks are loopmounted.
[20:12] <SDr> can you recommend a free/OS alternative to winzip, which has a windows port?
[20:12] <vodka_> wine problem camfrog  not open ???????????????
[20:13] <erUSUL> SDr: peazip; 7-zip
[20:13] <elmalafacha> vodka_, ok
[20:13] <Netham45> Hi, I'm trying to compile something, and it says that I need the MySQL Client. Does anyone know what the packages are named?
[20:13] <erUSUL> SDr: http://www.7-zip.org/
[20:13] <robg_> TiZ: that is the same as a logical extended partition ?
[20:14] <punkk> AaronH, I ran the command in terminal, im getting an error Couldnt find package wine.
[20:14] <Lynet> robg_: No. It is a disk image that lives as a file on a windows filesystem.
[20:14] <Netham45> !info libmysqlclient15off
[20:14] <robg_> TiZ: the operations you suggest always end in failure. You do not re-arrange, you overwrite.
[20:15] <[TiZ]> Lynet, that was a better explanation than I woulda given.
[20:15] <AaronH> punkk, ill help you in pm
[20:15] <ish_nitti> Netham45, mysql-admin mysql-gui-tools mysql-navigator mysql-proxy mysql-query-browser
[20:15] <[TiZ]> robg_, I'm not sure you understand what I am trying to do.
[20:15] <Netham45> ty
[20:16] <[TiZ]> I am trying to resize my big partition to make room for an ext3 partition and a swap partition. I will then use LVPM to copy my Wubi Ubuntu install to those partitions.
[20:16] <robg_> TiZ; the complexity of your setup is mind-bogling and alternations to it will be risky.
[20:16] <[TiZ]> See above, please.
[20:16] <[TiZ]> :|
[20:16] <mbi0> hellow any one knows about wireless card drivers ??
[20:16] <jkirby> anybody with any xen/ubuntu experience? would be great if you could share some help. ive got a fresh install of ubuntu and did a "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-xen-server" - setup networking and everything looks good so far. I've used a working centos5.1 image (as ive used it on other systems that I did not setup though) and when attempting a boot, I get the following errors. I've included as much information as possible: http://pastebin.com
[20:17] <elmalafacha> AaronH, could you help me step by step?
[20:17] <PPKuma> hi, why the gmail hotkeys don't work? is it a common problem in ubuntu?
[20:17] <Netham45> jkirby, your pastebin link got cut off.
[20:17] <Svish> Is there a terminal equivelent to ctrl+alt+backspace?
[20:17] <jkirby> Netham45: whoops... http://pastebin.com/m76e67adb
[20:17] <vodka_>  camfrog chatprogram  why ubuntu linux system absent????????????????????????
[20:18] <[TiZ]> Anyways, I'm going to go see what I can do from the GParted LiveCD.
[20:18] <[TiZ]> Thanks for the help, guys. Peace.
[20:18] <bijur> hey all :)
[20:18] <vodka_> wine emulator super
[20:18] <Lynet> [TiZ]: gparted from a livecd will usually do the trick.
[20:18] <jkirby> Netham45: works fine for me
[20:18] <vodka_> olm turkler nerde leng
[20:19] <Netham45> jkirby, that 2nd link works, but I have no idea what's wrong. Sorry.
[20:19] <vodka_> linux ubuntu super
[20:19] <ish_nitti> Netham45, mysql-server mysql-client libmysqlclient15-dev
[20:19] <ish_nitti> Netham45, i gave you the wrong notes i had, sorry
[20:19] <Netham45> ish_nitti, Actually allready got it. Thanks, though!
[20:19] <ish_nitti> my bad
[20:19] <Netham45> I found libmysqlclient15-dev in aptitude
[20:19] <evan_> hey  i am using wine i installes ie and i got the preloader error on the web they said to cange a value of 65536 to 0 and no i wont get the error even any error but the program still wont start
[20:20] <Jack_Sparrow> evan_ /join #winehq
[20:20] <TechieDragon1> back
[20:21] <Hammer89> anyone have any idea why UFW would cause DNS issues?
[20:22] <vodka_> why camforg chat progragram linux system absent>??????????????
[20:22] <blistov_>   i'm trying to create a new raid array. getting the following
[20:22] <blistov_> root@octillion:~# mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=linear --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1mdadm: chunk size defaults to 64Kmdadm: Cannot open /dev/sdb1: Device or resource busymdadm: Cannot open /dev/sdc1: Device or resource busymdadm: create aborted
[20:22] <vodka_> neden yok len ıbneler
[20:22] <blistov_> this works in any other distro.
[20:22] <acp_> Hi! if your gona buy a laptop that you will use it for developing a apps like billing system(lamp or java) and for entertainment eg. watching dvd or youtube and games(open arena) which do you prefer Core 2 Duo or AMD X2 64-bit mobile technology?
[20:22] <Maslow> Just out of curiosity, with apps that are meant for a specific window manager, is it possible that they will run in other window managers except with errors?
[20:23] <erUSUL> acp_: intel is fastest
[20:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Maslow kde and gnome apps for the most part work in either wm
[20:23] <magnetron> Maslow: they will run just as well as in any other window manager, even without errors
[20:24] <magnetron> Maslow: they will just look different
[20:24] <joab> I just installed 8.04 server and am trying to "apt-get install avahi-daemon" but it tries to install some X libraries as well. It's also trying to install dbus, which I'm not really that interested in. Does apt-get work like Gentoo's portage in the way you can just tell it what dependencies you want it to have?
[20:24] <Maslow> Trying to run an emulator that I think was meant to be run in KDE in gnome and its erring out, wondering if its because im not running it in KDE.
[20:24] <Jack_Sparrow> joab Dependencies are just that.  the app you want to run depends on those other pieces
[20:25] <vodka_> camfrog chat program to want linux ubuntu
[20:25] <vodka_> kalkıng leng
[20:25] <acp_> erUSUL: ic
[20:25] <joab> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah, but in Gentoo you can just tell it what other programs to compile into. Can you do that in Ubuntu too?
[20:26] <vodka_> .rmp files where program open linux ubuntu
[20:26] <Lynet> joab: No. Gentoo is source based, Ubuntu is binaries based.
[20:26] <alex1> hey guys. I've an LCD display @ 60Hz refresh rate, but in Screen Resolution it always says 50Hz, even though I made sure to specify 60Hz in xorg.conf... any ideas how to force it to 60Hz?
[20:26] <vodka_> .rmp files where program open linux ubuntu
[20:27] <Lynet> joab: Or, well, you technically can but that would require getting the source .deb, changing some options and then compiling it.
[20:27] <vodka_> turkler nerde len
[20:27] <vodka_> .rmp files where program open linux ubuntu???
[20:27] <benanzo> Is there a tool to convert HEX to ascii?  I have hex value of the phrase "My name is" -- I would like to convert to ascii and back again
[20:27] <joab> Lynet: Ok.. Thanks for explaining :)
[20:28] <Maslow> Don't think any of us understand what you're talking about vodka_.
[20:28] <vodka_> wai,t
[20:28] <benanzo> binarytoascii in the repos doesn't seem to deal with plain text words etc, only numbers
[20:28] <joab> Lynet: So how do people install stuff on servers where you don't need X?
[20:29] <benanzo> in the terminal
[20:29] <n3uromanc3r> sharms: i get this erros when running /etc/init.d/inetd restart     - bash: /etc/init.d/inetd: No such file or directory
[20:30] <Lynet> joab: Then you only install packages that don't require X. or you install them but don't start X.
[20:30] <vodka_> turkerın kanalı yokmu leng
[20:30] <Myrtti> !tr | vodka_
[20:31] <joab> Lynet: Doest sound too efficient... but neither does compiling everything from source over and over :)
[20:31] <joab> doesn't
[20:32] <tasius> stergie eisai edv
[20:33] <Lynet> joab: That's the reason why gentoo exists. It is specifically made to be able to tailor your install exactly like you want it. On the other hand, it is a lot more work than installing debian, ubuntu or RH.
[20:34] <joab> Lynet: Yeah.. I've been running gentoo on a server at home for 2 years now but just started considering ubuntu but it seems I'm not gonna find what I want there :/
[20:34] <jkirby> Netham45: is the pastebin link working for you?
[20:34] <Netham45> jkirby, yes.
[20:38] <dextrous_> Hello?
[20:39] <Tonyzgz> hello
[20:39] <hacknslash> dextrous_, hello
[20:39] <PPKuma> hi, why the gmail hotkeys don't work? is it a common problem in ubuntu?
[20:39] <Tonyzgz> hello spain
[20:40] <lufis> Anyone use Banshee? Is there a way to mix and match tracks not on the same album?
[20:40] <dextrous_> Wasn't sure if I was connected or not, its normaly really busy in here.
[20:41] <Tonyzgz> please speak Spanish
[20:41] <Tonyzgz> please speak Spanish
[20:41] <theFATMAN> ok, i cant remember how to adjust the opacity of windows to make them clear, anyone know? I dont want to go the metacity way just yet.
[20:41] <theFATMAN> !spanish
[20:41] <lufis> theFATMAN: desktop effects?
[20:42] <theFATMAN> naw, i looked there
[20:42] <emma> theFATMAN: are you using compiz-fusion?
[20:42] <theFATMAN> emma, yes ma'am, all the way
[20:42] <lovezinhu> someone has the serial of ubuntu 8
[20:42] <lovezinhu> ?
[20:42] <AaronH> theFATMAN, try holding the [ALT] key and scroll with y our mouse
[20:42] <bijur> serial???
[20:42] <bijur> w00t!
[20:42] <emma> theFATMAN: press and hold alt while using  your scroll wheel on the mouse.
[20:42] <bijur> lovezinhu: what hapnd to you?
[20:42] <robg_> theFATMAN: you have just installed Ubuntu and want better graphics ?
[20:43] <theFATMAN> ok, yeah, but i just want the input area translucent, i cant remember how to do it
[20:43] <lovezinhu> bijur what?
[20:43] <hustle> nick m_ad
[20:43] <dot> how do I convert mp3 to m4a?
[20:43] <m_ad> heh
[20:43] <lovezinhu> someone has the serial of ubuntu 8?
[20:43] <AaronH> theFATMAN, then it depends on what program you are using
[20:43] <dot> how do I convert mp3 to m4a on ubuntu, and is it legal?
[20:44] <theFATMAN> lovezinhu: doesnt need a serial
[20:44] <robg_> theFATMAN: better multimedia drivers are available at Medibuntu.org
[20:44] <theFATMAN> AaronH, program? can u clarify?
[20:44]  * AaronH giggles at lovezinhu 
[20:44] <m_ad> I have a problem with my Appearance Preferences (System->Preferences->Appearance), in the themes tab. I can't preview the themes, as they are greyed out and a big ? through them. I've removed my ~/.themes folder, and reinstalled ubuntu-desktop. Nothing is working.
[20:44] <n3uromanc3r> !pxe
[20:44] <AaronH> theFATMAN, what program are you trying to get some transparencies on?
[20:45] <theFATMAN> robg, i have the entire medibuntu installed, i am referring to the interior of all windows, mate
[20:45] <robg_> OK sorry, others will be able to help.
[20:45] <n3uromanc3r> dot: there is a package called soundconverter (konverter?) that may do this
[20:45] <theFATMAN> AaronH, all windows, bro
[20:46] <dextrous_> No sound, no idea why. It was working before I restarted. Using Pulse Audio and its all up to date. Any ideas?
[20:46] <theFATMAN> robg, no worries, mate, thanx
[20:46] <n3uromanc3r> dextrous: do you have s soundcard and onbaord sound too
[20:46] <dextrous_> SBLive.
[20:46] <m_ad> anyone have any ideas?
[20:47] <AaronH> theFATMAN, cool, might have to create a custom theme in System>Preferences>Appearance
[20:47] <n3uromanc3r> dextrous_: try your onboard sound for motherboard to see if that now works
[20:47] <n3uromanc3r> dextrous_: my friends pc switches between the 2!
[20:47] <lovezinhu> Good afternoon, I am a friend of ecl and garotosopa, live in Brazil and I am looking for the serial of ubuntu 8 to install here at home someone can pass me a serial number of valid
[20:47] <AaronH> there are a ton of options in System>Preferences>Appearance   , theFATMAN
[20:47] <theFATMAN> AaronH, i dont see a opacity option, can it be done from the terminal?
[20:48] <dextrous_> Its not hardware based problems, I'm duel booting Windows and it works fine.
[20:48] <n3uromanc3r> lovezinhu: you dont need one!
[20:48] <n3uromanc3r> dextrous_: i never said it was
[20:48] <dextrous_> n3uromanc3r: oh sorry
[20:48] <n3uromanc3r> dextrous_: ubuntu can get confused and try to use your OB sound INSTEAD
[20:48] <n3uromanc3r> dextrous_:  np
[20:48] <martian67> is it normal for the text based installer to freeze at 97% for a while?
[20:48] <martian67> like
[20:48] <martian67> a long time
[20:49] <n3uromanc3r> martian67:  please use ONE LINE ONLY!!!
[20:49] <n3uromanc3r> martian67:  how long are we talking?
[20:49] <martian67> 15+ minutes?
[20:50] <lovezinhu> where I get a disk of bot install ubuntu?
[20:50] <tyler> Anyone know the package I need to get the internet working under wine?
[20:50] <Scunizi> I just installed vsftpd for ftp access and was able to access it via win2kpro in a vm.  I also enabled local access. However I'm having an issue adding myself to the ftp group using gui tools.  It wants a gid number of the group. Is there a way to find group id's via terminal?
[20:50] <n3uromanc3r> martian67: what internet connection you running?
[20:50] <tyler> I forget it
[20:50] <n3uromanc3r> dextrous_: did your other sound work?
[20:50] <m_ad> I have a problem with my Appearance Preferences (System->Preferences->Appearance), in the themes tab. I can't preview the themes, as they are greyed out and a big ? through them. I've removed my ~/.themes folder, and reinstalled ubuntu-desktop. Nothing is working.
[20:50] <n3uromanc3r> lovezinhu: !install
[20:50] <n3uromanc3r> !install
[20:51] <robg_> lovezinhu: //releases.ubuntu.com
[20:51] <cu3edwe1> how do I enable dynamic shortcuts for gnome?
[20:51] <n3uromanc3r> lovezinhu: see above ^^
[20:51] <lovezinhu> is that I bought a CD in the store at 400 dollars and i think he is pirated
[20:51] <evilbug> can i fix my ubuntu partition using a live cd?
[20:51] <n3uromanc3r> lovezinhu: `what?
[20:51] <dextrous_> n3uromanc3r: lol it works but is there a way to stop this happening? I can see it getting annoying changing it all the time.
[20:51] <n3uromanc3r> lovezinhu: you don't purchase ubuntu! ?!
[20:51] <robg_> lovezinhu: either ubuntu-8.04-dekstop-i386.iso or ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso
[20:52] <n3uromanc3r> dextrous_: If there is I don't know it ;)
[20:52] <ue> Hi all, did they fix the flash bug in 8.x ?
[20:52] <tyler> How do I get the internet under wine?
[20:52] <potty> is a p3 533MHz 512MB ram enough for ubuntutubuntu?
[20:52] <n3uromanc3r> dextrous_: if you find a way let me know.  we just unplugged the soundcard and used onboard. not ideal I know
[20:52] <evilbug> ue- flash works fine for me.
[20:52] <dextrous_> n3uromanc3r: Ahh ok thanks for the help though.
[20:53] <n3uromanc3r> dextrous_: still at least you know why now ;)
[20:53] <evilbug> potty- it should be enough.
[20:53] <jkirby> Netham45: any ideas though?
[20:53] <lovezinhu> thanks for your help was very useful
[20:53] <takalius> When I login to Ubuntu (8.04), it shows the wallpaper and cursor, but nothing else will load
[20:53] <ue> evilbug, the 'sound' in flash, you have 8.0.4 ?
[20:53] <n3uromanc3r> dextrous_: seriosult though if you find a method of fixing it let me know!
[20:53] <cu3edwe1> anyone know how to enable dynamic shortcuts?
[20:53] <evilbug> potty- but you might need to use the alternative cd instead of the live cd for install (not sure).
[20:53] <dextrous_> n3uromanc3r: Thats true, now to research a solution. :P
[20:53] <evilbug> ue- yes.all works fine.
[20:53] <robg_> lovezinhu: you get it for free !
[20:54] <evilbug> can i fix my ubuntu partition using a live cd?
[20:54] <sandrinux> I got a problem after the upgrade to 8.04. During the boot there is a long wait (15-20 seconds) on "waiting for the root file system" . I read somewhere that maybe a problem of GRUB with UUID, and that if I change this whith the good old /dev/sdax everything I will solve. But before to touch the menu.lst I'd like to have your opinion...
[20:54] <n3uromanc3r> evilbug:  yes probably
[20:54] <evilbug> n3uromanc3r- any clue how?
[20:54] <n3uromanc3r> evilbug: depends what you did ;)
[20:54] <takalius> When I login to Ubuntu (8.04), it shows the wallpaper and cursor, but nothing else will load
[20:54] <n3uromanc3r> evilbug: what have you done to it?
[20:55] <evilbug> n3uromanc3r- i cut off some free space from it with a gparted live cd and now it won't boot.
[20:55] <potty> k
[20:55] <n3uromanc3r> evilbug: how far does it get?
[20:55] <evilbug> n3uromanc3r- the actual partition won't show up.
[20:55] <DannyV> damn, i'm trying to install ubuntu from the mini iso, but it's justhaving on the wget of the catalogue during the intaller :'(
[20:56] <n3uromanc3r> evilbug:  even in gparted on livecd?
[20:56] <takalius> When I login to Ubuntu (8.04), it shows the wallpaper and cursor, but nothing else will load, how do I fix it
[20:56] <evilbug> n3uromanc3r- in gparted it shows up fine,just not at boot (i'm on a macbook pro).
[20:56] <robg_> DanV: try the standard method
[20:56] <evilbug> n3uromanc3r- i was wondering if there's a way to navigate into it and run some commands :)
[20:56] <n3uromanc3r> evilbug: have you messed up your grub?
[20:57] <n3uromanc3r> evilbug: what happens at boottime?
[20:57] <robg_> takalius: probably damaged install, may need re-install.
[20:57] <DannyV> robg_, i dont really have the bandwidth to download the entire iso
[20:57] <evilbug> n3uromanc3r- i really have no clue what the problem is.at boot,rEFIt used to show me both partitions.now it only shows my mac partition.
[20:57] <DannyV> and i only want gcc and some asm stuff and a command line
[20:57] <DannyV> infact
[20:57] <DannyV> bugger this
[20:57] <DannyV> i'll bloody use a linux machine at work
[20:57] <DannyV> i have a spare one somewhere
[20:57] <n3uromanc3r> evilbug: you have messed up your grub. may need to fix that
[20:58] <n3uromanc3r> !grub
[20:58] <robg_> DannyV: come on, switch on your computer and go to bed.
[20:58] <n3uromanc3r> evilbug:  see above ;0)
[20:58] <evilbug> n3uromanc3r- thanks!
[20:58] <DannyV> somebody please choose a number between 230 and 240...
[20:58] <DannyV> lol
[20:58] <n3uromanc3r> evilbug: np
[20:58] <takalius> When I login to Ubuntu (8.04), it shows the wallpaper and cursor, but nothing else will load, how do I fix it
[20:58] <sandrinux> Sorry for my english :-\  I got a problem after the upgrade to 8.04.   During the boot there is a long wait (15-20 seconds) on "waiting for the root file system" .    I read somewhere that maybe a problem of GRUB with UUID, and that if I change this whith the good old /dev/sdax , I will solve.   But before to touch the menu.lst I'd like to have your opinion...
[20:58] <n3uromanc3r> evilbug: backup everything before going any further! is my humble advise
[20:59] <Flannel> sandrinux: run blkid and check to make sure its the same UUID
[20:59] <robg_> takalius: if you cannot fix the problem then you will have to re-install. 2 hours work.
[20:59] <DIL_> 1
[20:59] <n3uromanc3r> takalius: please don't repeat the question quite so often we can see it ;)
[21:00] <takalius> n3uromanc3r, Sorry
[21:00] <n3uromanc3r> takalius: you may not need to reinstall to be honest
[21:00] <sandrinux> Flannel, oh, OK. I'll do that before, thanks
[21:00] <n3uromanc3r> takalius: np
[21:00] <n3uromanc3r> takalius: are you using gnome?
[21:00] <takalius> n3uromanc3r, Yes
[21:00] <n3uromanc3r> takalius:  2 secs
[21:00] <jkirby> anybody with any xen/ubuntu experience? would be great if you could share some help. ive got a fresh install of ubuntu and did a "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-xen-server" - setup networking and everything looks good so far. I've used a working centos5.1 image (as ive used it on other systems that I did not setup though) and when attempting a boot, I get the following errors. I've included as much information as possible: http://pastebin.com
[21:01] <Flannel> jkirby: wrong link
[21:01] <m_ad> I have a problem with my Appearance Preferences (System->Preferences->Appearance), in the themes tab. I can't preview the themes, as they are greyed out and a big ? through them. I've removed my ~/.themes folder, and reinstalled ubuntu-desktop. Nothing is working.
[21:01] <Flannel> jkirby: or, it got cutoff at pastebin.com, and just looks ironic.
[21:01] <n3uromanc3r> takalius: Read your log files /var/log/gdm/:0.log and ~/.xsession-errors .
[21:01] <Jadd> m_ad: what happens when you click on them?
[21:01] <jkirby> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/m76e67adb working fine for me?
[21:02] <m_ad> Jadd, they chave, and I see names below the previews
[21:02] <Flannel> jkirby: You reached the line limit humorously at http://pastebin.com
[21:02] <evilbug> n3uromanc3r- thanks
[21:02] <Nitricacid> Good ftp server that runs nicely on heron, preferably with a GUI interface?
[21:02] <m_ad> Jadd, and if I install a new theme, it just goes to the "custom" theme and doesn't add a new one
[21:02] <n3uromanc3r> takalius: you should be able to load a new session at login prompt
[21:02] <jkirby> Flannel: oh haha.. well there you go, thats the proper one :)
[21:02] <n3uromanc3r> takalius: have you tried that?
[21:02] <Jadd> m_ad: chave?
[21:03] <m_ad> lol sorry, change
[21:03] <Flannel> Nitricacid: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[21:03] <m_ad> Jadd, if I click one of the themes it changes the appearance accordingly
[21:03] <n3uromanc3r> takalius: you should be able to access recovery or press ctrl+alt+f2 to get a recovery console up
[21:04] <evilbug> n3uromanc3r- i re-installed it and now it tells me No bootable device :(
[21:04]  * n3uromanc3r is fending off wintermute
[21:04] <hyperhacker> does anyone know why I might have an instance of 'dd' running in the background taking 100% CPU and I can't eject an SD card because "an application is preventing it"?
[21:04] <Flannel> n3uromanc3r: ctrl-alt-f2 isn't recovery console, just a regular tty.  recovery console is accessed through GRUB menu
[21:04] <n3uromanc3r> evilbug: did you backup like i said?
[21:04] <ethana2> ETA for FF3rc1 ?
[21:04] <Jadd> hmm, so the preview issue is fixed if you click on a theme, does it stay fixed after you exit and reload?
[21:04] <garrett__> are there any command-line apps to write to syslog?  i.e: i want to redirect stderr to syslog on a program i'm writing which gets invoked by qmail and subsequently has nothing to catch errors with
[21:04] <n3uromanc3r> Flannel: cheers, forgot name anyhow
[21:04] <n3uromanc3r> ;)
[21:05] <evilbug> n3uromanc3r- luckily nothing to back up.i just want to play around with linux.
[21:05] <Nitricacid> Flannel: how do i config it?
[21:05] <n3uromanc3r> evilbug even on mac partition?
[21:05] <n3uromanc3r> Flannel: what does tty stand for?
[21:05] <Flannel> Nitricacid: through the config file.  That page gives some broader options
[21:05] <evilbug> n3uromanc3r- that one is working fine.
[21:05] <martian67> n3uromanc3r: teletype
[21:05] <m_ad> Jadd, nono, the preview doesn't fix. regardless of what I do (change the theme, install a new theme) there is no preview. if I click a new theme, the appearance changes but that's all. also, if I install a new theme it just changes to "custom," and doesn't add a new theme
[21:05] <Flannel> n3uromanc3r: TeleTYpe
[21:05] <n3uromanc3r> cheers guys
[21:06] <Jadd> Is there a ubuntu developers channel?
[21:06] <ethana2> Jadd: ye
[21:06] <Nitricacid> Flannel: so theres no gui?
[21:06] <Nitricacid> i like gui.
[21:06] <n3uromanc3r> evilbug: you may need to configure your grub as it doesn't just work from the off ;)
[21:06] <ethana2> Jadd: #ubuntu-devel I think
[21:06] <Jadd> m_ad, my guess is that permissions have been messed up in /usr/share/themes
[21:07] <Flannel> Nitricacid: What sort of stuff do you need to configure through the GUI?
[21:07] <Jadd> thanks ethana2
[21:07] <m_ad> Jadd, a little more info, when I type "gnome-appearance-properties" in terminal, i get the error: gnome-appearance-properties: symbol lookup error: gnome-appearance-properties: undefined symbol: meta_preview_get_clip_region
[21:07] <n3uromanc3r> has anyone succeeded in isntalling hardy over the network using pxe? if so what method did you follow?
[21:07] <Flannel> !install | n3uromanc3r
[21:08] <n3uromanc3r> Flannel: that method is out of date
[21:08] <Flannel> n3uromanc3r: Really?  how so?
[21:08] <m_ad> ls -F
[21:08] <m_ad> woops
[21:08] <n3uromanc3r> Flannel: it doesn't work
[21:09] <Flannel> n3uromanc3r: How doesn't it work?
[21:09] <m_ad> Jadd, any ideas? checking file permissions in /usr/share/themes right now
[21:09] <Jadd> m_ad: nope :( it sounds like a bug to me
[21:09] <marathe25> My USB keyboard periodically stops working after a random amount of time. Also, my USB wifi dongle cuts out in the same way. Any idea what's causing the problem?
[21:10] <elmalafacha> hi i could finaly make that ubuntu detect my wireless card rtl8185 in this page http://www.willdaniels.co.uk/articles/10-howto/12-r8180-hardy, but it doesnt get conected, can anyone helpme?
[21:10] <n3uromanc3r> Flannel: well there are multiple methods so all vary but some are for dapper, feisty gutsy and seem to update parts of the system so old versions become obsolete -I assume that with hardy the reason they don't work is the system has changed significantly again
[21:10] <m_ad> Jadd, every folder in /usr/share/themes has permissions "drwxr-xr-x", is this correct?
[21:11] <marathe25> The weird thing is that my USB mouse is on the same USB port (Apple), but it continues to work.
[21:11] <n3uromanc3r> Flannel: have you achieved this on hardy?
[21:11] <MrObvious> When will Firefox 3 RC1 be on the repos?
[21:11] <ethana2> MrObvious: I just asked that
[21:11] <neoser10> any knows if Hardy Heron in a moment can have the apache, php4 and my sql5 downloads available?
[21:11] <Flannel> n3uromanc3r: No, but the installation methods haven't changed too much.  Especially the stuff that deals with booting
[21:11] <ethana2> MrObvious: no answer yet..
[21:12] <Flannel> neoser10: No.
[21:12] <MrObvious> ethana2: lol ok
[21:12] <Jadd> m_ad, yeah that's correct, that's what I've got on my system
[21:12] <m_ad> hm
[21:12] <robg_> neoser10: look at //releases.ubuntu.com
[21:12] <m_ad> Jadd, this sucks, no fix..
[21:12] <Flannel> neoser10: apache2, php5.  Mysql5 is available though.
[21:12] <m_ad> :x
[21:12] <n3uromanc3r> ﻿Flannel: well I'm drowning in a sea of my own tears over here
[21:13] <m_ad> metacity --replace doesn't fix it either
[21:13] <n3uromanc3r> Flannel: second day trying to get it to run
[21:13] <neoser10> i can download the deb packages and install manually?, i need have three webservers in my machine (this is a production machine)
[21:13] <Flannel> neoser10: Do you need apache1 and php5?
[21:13] <n3uromanc3r> Flannel: I can get it to initiate but then I get a tftp timeout error
[21:13] <Flannel> neoser10: er, php4
[21:13] <Jadd> m_ad, have fun trying to file the bug, I can't find the gnome-appearance-properties project, so I guess you just report it to Ubuntu
[21:13] <robg_> neoser10: //releases.ubuntu.com has production quality stuff
[21:13] <Jadd> m_ad: life is life, at least you can change your themes
[21:13] <m_ad> Jadd, true :)
[21:14] <m_ad> Jadd, just an annoying bug, that's all
[21:14] <m_ad> I like things to work properly :)
[21:14] <xbj9000> does anyone know what forum section I should post a Tango frostwire skin I put together?
[21:14] <xbj9000> I posted in hints and tips but it wasn't approved I guess
[21:15] <Flannel> xbj9000: try #ubuntuforums
[21:15] <xbj9000> ok thanks
[21:15] <m_ad> this may be a stupid question, but I haven't configured bitchx in a long time. where do I setup my nickname, realname, etc..?
[21:16] <zloog_> Hi, when i try to install libghc6-soegtk-dev through synaptic (Gutsy, 7.10) , I get Unresolvable dependency errors. Is there anything I can do about this?
[21:16] <m_ad> ~/.bitchxrc isn't it, is it?
[21:16] <Kalox> hello
[21:16] <zloog_> hi
[21:16] <cypha> when i close my laptop screen, and open it back up, the refresh rate is really slow and something is wrong with the resolution, i can hardly make out what i'm typing or what is being said on the screen
[21:16] <Flannel> neoser10: Do you need apache (version 1) and php4?  or will apache2 and php5 work?
[21:16] <cypha> please help someone
[21:16] <robg_> zloog: upgrade to Ubuntu 8.04
[21:16] <Kalox> this os owns
[21:16] <ethana2> Kalox: yes.
[21:16] <zloog_> robg: my computer and 8.04 dont seem to get along at all
[21:16] <pablo> Hola a todoooossss . . .
[21:17] <neoser10> Flannel, i need apache1,php4 and mysql5 and i need too apache2 php5 postgresql8
[21:17] <ethana2> pablo: hola
[21:17] <robg_> zloog: must be a strange computer.
[21:17] <MrObvious> pablo: Do you speak english? Hi by the way.
[21:17] <pablo> hi,
[21:18] <pablo> no match
[21:18] <pablo> do you speak spanish?
[21:18] <Flannel> neoser10: If you need the older version of apache and php, you'll need to use Dapper
[21:18] <Flannel> !es | pablo
[21:18] <pablo> ok.
[21:18] <neoser10> dapper drake is the 6.06 version??
[21:18] <pablo> excuse me!!
[21:18] <Flannel> neoser10: yes
[21:19] <neoser10> thanks
[21:19] <dot> Hi! I have a humongous promblem, long story short: I need mp3 -> m4r converter
[21:19] <neoser10> i see you latter, and any question from hardware support send to neoser10@hotmail.com thanks again
[21:20] <MrObvious> pablo: Either ask a question in English regarding Ubuntu or go to the Spanish channels for help in Spanish. :)
[21:21] <Luig1> Hi all! I have a bit of a problem... you see, since Christmas Eve (24 Dec 2007) I haven't been able to boot Ubuntu off my hard disk; it couldn't find the kernel. So I went in through liveCD, and apparently Ubuntu deleted its own /boot directory during a kernel update. So now I get error 15 (kernel not found) every time I let BIOS do what it wants. I'm planning to install ubuntu on a 20GB partition, then slowly pull my backups off of the l
[21:21] <insomninja> I installed the realtime kernel, but it seems to have killed my xorg.conf
[21:21] <marathe25> Someone please help me out... my USB ports keep going dead, I have to reload the ehci_hcd module or unplug and replug my devices in order to get them to work.
[21:21] <marathe25> It's getting very old.
[21:21] <robg_> Luig1: sounds complex. Why not a clean re-install ?
[21:22] <MrObvious> Luig1: Just copy the data to a spare hard drive then format it and get the data back on slowly.
[21:22] <cypha> can someone tell me why my screen resolution is all messed up after i close my laptop screen???
[21:22] <Luig1> In case you were wondering, I haven't gone to fix it 'til now because I haven't had time. robg_: Well, all my backups, along with my Home directory, were on the same partition, so a clean install will kill all of my files, documents, etc.
[21:23] <marathe25> Anybody?
[21:23] <Luig1> I've been considering dragging all 40GB of my backups to another computer, then doing a clean install.
[21:23] <robg_> Luig1: copy your files to CD before you do a clean re-install.
[21:23] <Kalox> just build a backup file server from a old junker
[21:23] <chaqui> thats alot of cd's, wouldnt a external hard drive be easiest?
[21:24] <Luig1> robg_: my home directory alone was 30GB (I'm a packrat) I would need 50 cds.
[21:24] <robg_> I buy 50 CDs for EUR 18.
[21:24] <Flannel> Luig1: You could move your homedir to a separate partition, then reinstall around it.
[21:24] <Kalox> do you have a spare HDD
[21:24] <chaqui> once you use a CD you can't reuse it, an external will be useful forever
[21:24] <Luig1> Flannel: Excellent idea! I'll look into that!
[21:25] <Flannel> Luig1: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[21:25] <Luig1> Kalox: no. How much do those go for?
[21:25] <DIL_> 500gtb $99
[21:25] <Kalox> $60 should get you at least a 40 GB HHD
[21:25] <DIL_> gb
[21:25] <stopgo> Hi, I just reinstalled ubuntu.  I backed up my home directory, formatted my partition, reinstalled the distro, and overwrote the installed home directory with the one I had backed up.  Sound was working before I copied over my new home directory, but after I overwrote the old one, sound had stopped working.  Does anyone have any suggestions as to what user settings I could have that may have killed sound?
[21:25] <Kalox> 1TB goes for 100 here
[21:26] <MrObvious> ethana2: I got an answer in #ubuntu-devel. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=797212&highlight=firefox+release+candidate&page=7
[21:26] <Luig1> Do you mean a USB external drive, or an HDD I would need to stick in the box myself?
[21:27] <stopgo> (sound hadn't been working under my previous install either)
[21:27] <neoser10> Luig1, i think the solution is: 1. Get another Hard disk (10 Gb is a good option) 2. in these disk install ubuntu (the same version erased...)3. when finish, put the original disk as slave disk, mount your old root device (boot if you make a /boot partition) copy the /boot directory to your old installation, copy the modules directory from your new instalation to /lib/ and pray if you want
[21:27] <chaqui> my friend baught a external HD for a simular problem back in his windows days, now he keeps all his music on it its stull useful even though it was purchased like 5 years ago
[21:27] <Steve-cal> stopgo: Do you by chance have an ".asoundrc" file in that home directory?
[21:27] <DIL_> stopgo: something similar happened to me i had mobo audio and pci sound card did not get any sound from mobo after intstall but pci sound card was workig
[21:27] <stopgo> Steve-cal: nope
[21:28] <stopgo> DIL_ did you manage to solve it?
[21:28] <Kalox> you could go either route idleally though an external is best for back ups, just plug it in and go rather then  popping your case open and switching drives each time
[21:28] <Luig1> neoser10: I considered something similar to that, but I was experiencing some bugs before (sleeping didn't work properly, for example). So now I think I'll just start anew.,
[21:29] <Demonho-br> hello, my amsn is not working in ubuntu 8.04, when i try to rec sound, i cant because that says error writting on /dev/what i choose....    and my usb webcam is not working as mic.   but it works in skype. its like the amsn is working in OSS not alsa, not sure.. someone here got the problem ??
[21:29] <DIL_> stopgo: pci card was working all along. i was concentrating on the front panel jacks that were connected to the mobo
[21:30] <neoser10> this is only for backup your data, and later you can erase your old linux and re-install if you want
[21:30] <Steve-cal> stopgo: Be sure you're still using "ALSA" as your sound driver--go the System > Prefs/Admin (don't remember which) > Sound
[21:30] <Kalox> we have a electronics recycling program so i just go to the deot and they let me pick apart the old computers for parts i have not bought a part in awhile
[21:30] <Luig1> Kalox: Does a USB external HDD work just like a USB flash drive, as a USB Mass Storage Device Class device?
[21:30] <marshall> does anybody have an existing XP partition running in ubuntu?
[21:31] <chaqui> luig1 yes, some of the more expensive ones will have one button back up features.
[21:31] <Kalox> yes its like a memory stick just bigger, most have a ac power adapter you will need to plug in, then it connects right to usb
[21:31] <Kalox> you can even boot os's off them if you want
[21:31] <cypha> can someone tell me why my resolution and refresh rate mess up when i close my laptop lid for a while??
[21:32] <jenda> how do I restart ALSA? Every now and then, Amarok stops playing, and after that, no sounds can be heard at all.
[21:32] <neoser10> cypha you know which is you video card?
[21:32] <cypha> nvidia
[21:32] <robg_> Kalox: I am hearing a lot of stories of people who cannot boot from secondary harddrives and USB drives.
[21:32] <neoser10> which distro are you using?
[21:33] <Kalox> i can with no problems just vista wont do it which is no surprise
[21:33] <Luig1> Ok, thanks for you help everyone! Now I think my plan is to buy... perhaps an 80gb USB external HDD, then push all of the old stuff I might miss onto it, then clean reisntall.
[21:33] <cypha> neoser10, i'm on Hardy
[21:33] <takalius> n3uromanc3r, I know how to do the recovery console. I'm in it right now
[21:34] <stopgo> Steve-cal:  Hmm,  I have a number of choices, but none of them seem to work.  The two most promising seem to be HDA Intel (ALSA mixer) and Playback: ALSA PCM on front:0 (STAC92xx Analog)
[21:34] <takalius> And sorry I was doing laundry real quick
[21:34] <robg_> Luig1: An get the latest operating system from //releases.ubuntu.com
[21:34] <Luig1> After I'm done pulling everything off of it, I can use it for backups every month or something so this doesn't happen again.
[21:34] <chaqui> luig1 thats what i would do, like i said its not only a solution for now but when you get done, you'll have a external hard drive which is pretty sweet
[21:34] <Linux_Wombat> just installed 8.04 and am getting everything setup but ubuntu doesnt seem to know my sound card exists, its just a simple Sound Blaster 16, how do I get it to work?
[21:34] <takalius> n3uromanc3r, but what do I do when I'm in the recovery console?
[21:35] <Luig1> robg_: yeah, it was on 7.10, I'm in a freshly burned 8.04 right now.,
[21:35] <dot> can I convert mp3 files fo m4r files?
[21:35] <Steve-cal> stopgo: I think you want the ALSA Mixer option because that will hopefully use "dmix", ALSA's way of allowing many apps to use the sound at one time.
[21:35] <neoser10> cypha: first get your root account (password), from a linux console get into /etc/X11 directory
[21:35] <Loligaga> how do i list running processes
[21:35] <Loligaga> how do i list running processes in terminal
[21:35] <Adys> Loligaga, ps -e
[21:35] <robg_> Luig1: consider single boot ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso in LVM encrypted mode.
[21:35] <takalius> Loligaga, ps -A
[21:36] <Adys> or that
[21:36] <takalius> Hi jagggy
[21:36] <Diabolika> :p
[21:36] <jagggy> ... hi takalius i guess
[21:36] <cypha> neoser10, i'm in there
[21:36] <stopgo> Steve-cal:  OK, that was the default setting.  It looks like the card is detected and using the right driver and such, it's just that no sound comes out :(
[21:36] <takalius> When I login to Ubuntu (8.04), it shows the wallpaper and cursor, but nothing else will load, how do I fix it?
[21:36] <takalius> I'm using Gnome
[21:36] <Luig1> robg_: say what?
[21:37] <Loligaga> how do i list kill a proccess using terminal
[21:37] <Adys> Loligaga, killall procname
[21:37] <Luig1> loligaga: use tops to find its pid, then [ kill <pid>]... I think...
[21:37] <stopgo> Loligaga: find the process number via ps
[21:37] <stopgo> and then kill <pid>
[21:37] <robg_> Luig1: Alternate has drive encryption option
[21:37] <Steve-cal> stopgo: Have you checked your sound levels? Be sure to set PCM volume <= 74% and then adjust master volume to see if you get anything. Make they aren't muted.
[21:38] <cypha> neoser10, i'm in that directory via the terminal
[21:38] <takalius> Loligaga, ps -A, kill <process ID>
[21:38] <Luig1> rong_: I don't need to encrypt it, it's here in my bedroom.
[21:38] <Luig1> robg*
[21:38] <Exershio> hey everyone
[21:38] <dot> Hey, when I go to my cd-rom drive on ubuntu, it says "/dev/hdc not found"
[21:38] <dot> why?
[21:38] <Luig1> Hello Exershio
[21:38] <dell> How do i update 6.06 to 8.04
[21:38] <robg_> Luig1: encryption is good insurance against viruses, hackers and snoopers.
[21:39] <takalius> dell, download the 8.04 ISO, burn it, and install
[21:39] <dell> i tryed running gksu update-manager  and it didnt work
[21:39] <Adys> is anyone around familiar to grub and installations on external drives? I need some help troubleshooting a bad install
[21:39] <Luig1> rong_: Hmmm... Is it transparent to me? I mean, I know what I'm doing most of the time (I hope), but I'm no guru.
[21:39] <Exershio> dell, 6.06 is old. it'd probably be best for a fresh install of 8.04
[21:39] <stopgo> Steve-cal:  nope, they're not muted
[21:39] <stopgo> Looking in alsamixer from the terminal
[21:40] <neoser10> cypha, first copy this direction in a text editor: backup these data, in these prompt execute: cd /etc/init.d, when you get this directoty execute ./gdm stop (warn beware this stop the gnome display manager and X stop too) posteriorly execute Xorg -configure this leave in /root directory a file named xorg.conf.new copy these file to /etc/X11 as xorg.conf (remember is lowcase sensitive) and reboot your machine
[21:40] <takalius> When I login to Gnome on Ubuntu 8.04, I can only see my cursor and wallpaper
[21:40] <takalius> How do I fix it?
[21:40] <cypha> whoa, neoser10, can i msg you?
[21:41] <robg_> takalius: I believe the install is flawed and needs to be repeated.
[21:41] <neoser10> what?
[21:41] <ethana2> MrObvious: thanks
[21:41] <takalius> robg_, I installed a few months ago, and I have been using Ubuntu
[21:41] <Xsploit> im having problems getting opera installed ?
[21:41] <Steve-cal> stopgo: Well you could move all your .directories and .files out of your home directory, reboot, and Ubuntu/Gnome will go back to defaults. Then add them back one at a time to find which is causing the problems. This will prove also whether it really is a problem with something in your home directory.
[21:41] <Exershio> how would I go about installing FGLRX 8.40.4 (an older version) on Hardy? --buildpkg Ubuntu/8.04 doesn't work
[21:41] <takalius> robg_, It's only started doing that today
[21:41] <Xsploit> whats the command to get it from the terminal ?
[21:41] <Xsploit> sudo apt-get opera?
[21:42] <takalius> robg_ : So it isn't an install flaw..
[21:42] <stopgo> Steve-cal:  that sounds like a good plan, I'll give that a shot
[21:42] <Luig1> takalius: So you're in GNOME, but can't see the panales? Can you hit [alt+F2] and get a run promt? From there you could get xterm or something. I think the name for the default Ubuntu terminal is 'gnome-terminal'
[21:42] <robg_> takalius: a re-install takes 2 hours, fixing the problem may take much more. Be pratical.
[21:42] <takalius> Luig1, Yes I can get to a recovery console
[21:43] <Luig1> Xsploit: I doubt Opera is in the repositories. It's proprietary.
[21:43] <MrObvious> ethana2: You're welcome.
[21:43] <Luig1> takalius: recovery console?
[21:43] <stopgo> Steve-cal: brb
[21:43] <Xsploit> Luig1 no it isnt
[21:43] <takalius> Luig1, ctrl+alt+<num> puts me in a terminal
[21:43] <Luig1> Also, takalius, I don't know if this would work or not, but have you tried [alt+F1], and running 'gnome-panel'?
[21:44] <neoser10> luig1: opera is in the opera download page, to install download and execute in a terminal ./opera-9.xx or as name the file and ready
[21:44] <takalius> Luig1, Hmm says it isn't installed
[21:44] <takalius> Luig1, Maybe that's the problem?
[21:44] <Luig1> neoser10: I
[21:44] <Xsploit> ive tried downloading it, get an error
[21:44] <Luig1> neoser10: It's not for me, it's for Xsploit
[21:45] <marshall> is it possible to run an existing installation of windows XP in virtualbox?
[21:45] <takalius> Luig1-, I apt-get gnome-panels and it fixed the problem
[21:45] <neoser10> thank Xploit READ THIS ﻿opera is in the opera download page, to install download and execute in a terminal ./opera-9.xx or as name the file and ready
[21:46] <Xsploit> i get an error saying wrong architecture 'i386' in regard to opera
[21:46] <theFATMAN> hey, i cant restart or shutdown my system, what gives? those options arent available in the close icon either
[21:46] <stopgo> steve-cal:  interesting... i moved all of the .files, rebooted, and all the other settings appear to be back to default.  however, sound is still gone.
[21:46] <wasmeAtUBC> hi
[21:47] <Takalius> Alright now I have a new problem
[21:47] <CroX> Anyone have experience with network-manager-openvpn? I'm not getting it to even connect the server, though all settings looks just fine.
[21:47] <Exershio> theFATMAN, that happened to me after I installed the ATI drivers. I had to kill X, then hold down my power button to shut it down. then it was fixed upon rebooting
[21:47] <Steve-cal> stopgo: That's exactly what I was afraid of. That's why I figured we should try that...
[21:47] <Takalius> There is nothing on the desktop, and I cannot drag to create a selecting square
[21:47] <Takalius> And Places>Home says "There is no default action associated with this location"
[21:47] <theFATMAN> exershio, that's odd, i installed those drivers a week ago
[21:47] <Steve-cal> stopgo: You had sound working before you copied over your home directory?
[21:48] <stopgo> Steve-cal:  yes
[21:48] <Exershio> theFATMAN, ah then that's not it. what I meant was the second after I installed them. not the day after or anything
[21:48] <theFATMAN> any idea whats going on?
[21:48] <theFATMAN> i'm gonna do a hard restart to see
[21:48] <Exershio> how would I go about installing FGLRX 8.40.4 (an older version) on Hardy? --buildpkg Ubuntu/8.04 doesn't work. "package not supported" - is there any other method?
[21:49] <theFATMAN> BRB
[21:49] <Steve-cal> stopgo: Maybe another way of getting a clue would be to create a new user, log in as them, and see if the sound is a problem.
[21:49] <wasmeAtUBC> I'm trying to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 from an iso image of xubuntu-alternative, but mounting the file as a loop device and adding the line "deb file:///media hardy main restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list when I run apt-get update it says its "Ign file: hardy Release.gpg" etc. Anyone have any ideas what's wrong?
[21:49] <stopgo> steve-cal:  good idea.  i'll give it a shot
[21:50] <stopgo> steve-cal: brb
[21:51] <jagggy> anyone can tell me why this ( http://pastebin.ca/1028225 ) happends when i need to run amsn? :'(
[21:51] <Rockj> Is it normaly that nautilius stops working?
[21:51] <Rockj> their simply not showing up my windows
[21:51] <[TiZ]> Hey. I know this question is offtopic, but it's means to an Ubuntu-related end. I can't get the GParted liveCD to pick the right keymap. Whenever I try to start the graphical environment, I get numbers where my laptop FN keypad is. What do I do?
[21:52]  * Takalius 's gnome is broken...
[21:52] <Luig1> Ok, I'm back. Takalius: how is everything going?
[21:52] <Takalius> I got the panels working
[21:52] <marshall> is it possible to run an existing installation of windows XP in virtualbox?
[21:52] <Takalius> But I cannot do anything on the desktop and I can't get to my home or anywhere else
[21:52] <jagggy> anyone can tell me why this ( http://pastebin.ca/1028225 ) happends when i need to run amsn? :'(
[21:52] <robg_> TiZ: during gparted boot you can pick options
[21:52] <Luig1> Thanks to me, or by your won ingenuity?
[21:52] <Luig1> own*
[21:52] <Nin10dude> Since updating to 8.04, sound will only play in one program at a time... would anyone know why this is, and how I could fix this?
[21:53] <Takalius> Luig1, I had to install gnome-panels, which would have been thanks to you for pointing out the package
[21:53] <Luig1> What's under 'Applications'?
[21:53] <Takalius> Accessories, Internet, Office, etc.
[21:53] <Luig1> Well, you're welcome then!
[21:53] <Takalius> But
[21:53] <Takalius> My gnome is still broken
[21:53] <Takalius> The actual desktop won't work and I can't access any folders
[21:53] <[TiZ]> robg_, I know. Every keymap I pick results in whenever I try to type "sudo (whatever it is to start the GUI)", I get "s4\d6\" or "s4d6".
[21:53] <jagggy> anyone can tell me why this ( http://pastebin.ca/1028225 ) happends when i need to run amsn? :'(
[21:54] <Nspryspartan> Hello?
[21:54] <Luig1> What happens when you right-click on the desktop?
[21:54] <robg_> TiZ: sudo ? in Gparted ?
[21:54] <Takalius> Luig1, Nothing happens
[21:54] <Nspryspartan> can someone help me plez?
[21:54] <Luig1> Does Nautikus run?
[21:54] <Luig1> Nautilus*
[21:54] <[TiZ]> robg_, yeah. It starts out after I pick my keymap, not even in the GUI. I have to type a command to get into it.
[21:54] <[TiZ]> Burn the CD yourself if you want to see.
[21:55] <Takalius> Luig1, nautilus wasn't installed...
[21:55] <robg_> TiZ: you must shut down Linux and boot gparted from CD
[21:55] <Takalius> Seriously what the hell?
[21:55] <jagggy> anyone can tell me why this ( http://pastebin.ca/1028225 ) happends when i need to run amsn? :'( ANYONE ?
[21:55] <Luig1> Try 'sudo aptitude gnome'
[21:55] <Takalius> Luig1, unmet dependancies
[21:55] <[TiZ]> I know, robg_. It would be a very bad idea to resize a partition that I'm using.
[21:55] <Luig1> That sucks
[21:55] <neoser10> TiZ find a key named Fn and a Key with a NumLock frase and press these keys and try it
[21:55] <Takalius> gnome-desktop-environment, which also has unmet dependancies
[21:55] <Luig1> oh boy
[21:55] <[TiZ]> neoser10, you think it's got NumLock on by default?
[21:55] <robg_> TiZ; old boy I have been telling you that all day
[21:56] <Luig1> perhapLet's start with 'sudo apt-get nautilus'
[21:56] <[TiZ]> robg_, there is some SERIOUS misunderstanding going on between us.
[21:56] <neoser10> Tiz Yes, in my toshiba happens randomly
[21:56] <robg_> TiZ; not serious
[21:56] <[TiZ]> That's weird, neoser10. I'll try out hitting the numlock key to see if I have better luck. Thanks.
[21:57] <bullgard4> What is the function of a variable 'LANGUAGE' in /etc/environment and /etc/default/locale in addition to 'LANG'?
[21:57] <[TiZ]> robg_, I'm not stupid. I'm very adept in Windows, and finding my way in Linux without a huge deal of trouble. I know not to resize partitions currently in use. And as I kept trying to say, Wubi installs are intended to be moved to real partitions.
[21:57] <Takalius> Luig1, I did that
[21:57] <[TiZ]> Anyways, I'm going to try the numlock thing now. Thanks for your help, guys. Peace.
[21:58] <Luig1> And I'm pretty sure there's a text-mode IRC client, Takalius, if you get trapped in the terminal... like 'irssi' or something. not important info, just thought you might want to know.
[21:58] <Luig1> Did it work, Takalius?
[21:58] <Takalius> Luig1, that's what I was doing before I got the panels
[21:58] <neoser10> bullgard: is a function to call a language support installed, (when you install language-base-XX) or a debian package as this
[21:58] <Carbonflux> has anyone found a resolution to any of the issues raised by pulse audio?
[21:58] <Takalius> Luig1, and nautilus installed fine
[21:58] <jontasc> Hello, I'd appreciate it if someone could help me out writing to a hfs+ FS.
[21:59] <Carbonflux> 8.04 has be a big step back for me audio quality wise
[21:59] <jagggy> anyone can tell me why this ( http://pastebin.ca/1028225 ) happends when i need to run amsn? :'( ANYONE ?
[21:59] <Luig1> Oh, hmmm... I thought the desktop right-click stuff was considered an extension of Nautilus?
[21:59] <punkk> triim. :)
[21:59] <robg_> Carbonflux: no problems with Pulse Audio. Got it from the medibuntu.org repository.
[21:59] <Takalius> Anyways
[21:59] <alextvm_> hello, a friend of mine wanted to install lilo in the mbr and now im afraid to turn off the computer how can i rewrite the mbr for grub?
[21:59] <jadewolf> Anyone know a package I can use in Ubuntu that will change mic input? Like allow you to alter pitch or tone.
[21:59] <Takalius> I can open the folders now with Nautilus installed
[21:59] <jagggy> anyone can tell me why this ( http://pastebin.ca/1028225 ) happends when i need to run amsn? :'( ANYONE ?
[22:00] <Carbonflux> robg_, not sure if that makes sense to me but thanks for answering
[22:00] <Carbonflux> :)
[22:00] <Luig1> Well, Takalius, perhaps a reinstall really would be best?
[22:00] <Monica_2> i am running 8.04, with  Compiz-fusion, i enabled Emerald, and a custom splash screen and custom log in manager, i rebooted my system, it get's as far as the splash screen, and then its just a white screen.  How can i fix this?
[22:00] <neoser10> ﻿alextvm uninstall grub before to reboot
[22:00] <Carbonflux> I am talking about the Pulse audio server included in 8.04
[22:00] <neoser10> or uninstall lilo and reinstall grub package
[22:00] <Carbonflux> I can't even play two audio sources at once anymore
[22:01] <jagggy> anyone can tell me why this ( http://pastebin.ca/1028225 ) happends when i need to run amsn? :'( ANYONE ?
[22:01] <Carbonflux> I would like to remove it but it has a dependency to Ubuntu desktop
[22:01] <Luig1> jagggy: please don't repeat youself...
[22:01] <elmalafacha> ubuntu detect my wireless card but it doesnt get connected could anyone help me?
[22:01] <alextvm_> reinstall grub
[22:01] <Takalius> Mm wtf...
[22:01] <jagggy> Luig1, nobody reply's so i have to, kthnxbye
[22:01] <stopgo> steve-cal:  hmm, that didn't work.  i'm going to reinstall ubuntu and copy folders over manually i guess
[22:02] <Takalius> jagggy, just be frigin patient
[22:02] <Monica_2> plz help
[22:02] <Nin10dude> ﻿Since updating to 8.04, sound will only play in one program at a time... would anyone know why this is, and how I could fix this?
[22:02] <neoser10> ﻿alextvm: first uninstall the other bootloader!!!
[22:02] <Carbonflux> Nin10dude, its the pulse audio server
[22:02] <jagggy> Takalius, did i ask you something? or should i put google on you in here ?
[22:02] <bombuxp> How would I go about adding a rout for broadcasts (255.255.255.255) to eth0? When I try, I get "invalid netmask".
[22:02] <Carbonflux> Nin10dude, I have been looking for a stable audio for config for a while now
[22:02] <Steve-cal> stopgo: Yes, I was afraid that wasn't going to get sound working. Well good luck then with the reinstall. :)
[22:02] <Carbonflux> no one seems to care heh
[22:03] <Luig1> jagggy: have you considered that nobody knows? I'm not saying that to be mean, but there are over 1000 people in this channel; you're not the only one who needs help.
[22:03] <Nin10dude> Hm, well thanks for that, Carbonflux. No known way to fix it right now, then?
[22:03] <stopgo> steve-cal:  thanks for all your help!  this should get it working.
[22:03] <jagggy> Luig1, 1000 - 900 idlers atleast
[22:03] <Monica_2> i have a white screen, plz help
[22:03] <Luig1> Also, jagggy, have you considered reinstalling whatever you're having trouble with?
[22:03] <jagggy> yes Luig1
[22:03] <Carbonflux> Nin10dude, there are various work arounds you can find on the forums
[22:03] <jagggy> and nothing works
[22:03] <Flannel> jagggy: That's a bug in amsn it looks like.  Syntax error or something similar.
[22:04] <steven_> doods, can someone tell me how I can use different x-server sessions? I want to run a full-screen game in one sessin and then have my desktop and everything else in another.
[22:04] <Flannel> jagggy: Where did you get this amsn?
[22:04] <Carbonflux> so, most Ubuntu users don't use audio?
[22:04] <elmalafacha> anyone can help me with wirless problems?
[22:04] <GIn> hi, is it possible to remove the System menu on the panel leaving Applications and PLaces there?
[22:04] <jagggy> Flannel, apt-get
[22:04] <Flannel> jagggy: What version of Ubuntu?
[22:04] <gcarrillo> hi al
[22:04] <gcarrillo> l
[22:04] <Steve-cal> stopgo: Your welcome, and I would strongly encourage you to write down and keep track of any system changes you do. It will make troubleshooting things easier in the future.
[22:04] <bascule> steven_: look into xinit, ~/.xinitrc and xinint -- :1
[22:04] <Carbonflux> what I want to understand is why we needed this overkill network audio server for a desktop distro heh
[22:04] <jagggy> Flannel, gutsy
[22:04] <Carbonflux> and why its so hard to remove
[22:04] <tico> hello how can i rewrite mbr for grub?
[22:04] <Carbonflux> why force this on everyone is what I don't get
[22:04] <tico> a friend tried to install lilo
[22:04] <tico> and i dont like it
[22:05] <linxeh> Carbonflux: you realise that other operating systems have a similar system?
[22:05] <gcarrillo> the functionality that searches for missing codecs seems not be working on my system
[22:05] <gcarrillo> can anybody suggest anything?
[22:05] <linxeh> Carbonflux: how else are you going to get multiple apps playing audio at the same time otherwise ?
[22:05] <Carbonflux> ALSA worked great it seemed like
[22:05] <bascule> !grub > tico
[22:05] <Carbonflux> this is not about that linxeh
[22:05]  * misterclark say halo
[22:05] <tritium> Carbonflux: alsa is still used
[22:05] <robg_> gcarrillo: for info on multimedia go to medibuntu.org
[22:05] <misterclark> hello
[22:05] <Carbonflux> its about supporting various ipod ish things
[22:05] <neoser10> tico: first get grub package, and reinstall, if you want uninstall first lilo
[22:05] <linxeh> Carbonflux: oh, sorry, you mean ESD or something ?
[22:06] <llamma> tico: man grub-install
[22:06] <Carbonflux> linxeh, again, I don't need a network audio server heh
[22:06] <Carbonflux> its for iPods and stuff
[22:06] <bascule> tico: the recovering after windows bit will be the same procedure basically
[22:06] <gcarrillo> robg_: thanks for that, but im talking about the codec searching thing that ubuntu has
[22:07] <gcarrillo> it seems to not be working
[22:07] <Gin> hi, is it possible to remove the System menu but not the menus Applications and Places?
[22:07] <linxeh> Carbonflux: presumably you dont need a network gui either
[22:07] <Carbonflux> 245.255.x.x thing, UU something, its a network self ID thing iPod and mobile devices use
[22:07] <Luig1> Are you still there, Takalius? I seem to have gotten lost in traffic.
[22:07] <robg_> gcarrillo: Medibuntu has nice multimedia that cannot be included in standard distro but you can get it yourself.
[22:07] <Takalius> Luig1, I'm still here
[22:08] <Takalius> Luig1, Someone suggested to rm -rf /, I'm gonna try that and see if it works
[22:08] <tritium> Takalius: no
[22:08] <Takalius> Luig1, >_O Kidding kidding
[22:08] <gcarrillo> robg_: yeah i think i may have to use it
[22:08] <Carbonflux> linxeh, so you have no problem playing sound from more then one app at the same time in 8.04?
[22:08] <Luig1> Takalius; NOOO!!
[22:08] <Luig1> Oh, thank goodness
[22:08] <neoser10> tico: before to reboot, execute sudo grub-install hd0 (i hope you hard disk is IDE, if is sata the hd0 change it for sda)
[22:08] <Carbonflux> linxeh, I mean I don't need a SERVER heh
[22:08] <Luig1> I've seen people do that before. It's not funny to them ;-)
[22:08] <robg_> gcarrillo: it contains all the nice stuff you need. go get it.
[22:09] <Flannel> jagggy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297676&page=13  seems to be helpful
[22:09] <jagggy> k, ty Flannel
[22:09] <Carbonflux> with pulse I can stream audio to ever computer in my house
[22:09] <Flannel> Takalius: Please don't joke around like that here.
[22:09] <steven_> what does ctrl+alt+f1` do?
[22:09] <Carbonflux> every*
[22:09] <Takalius> Flannel, Sorry
[22:09] <Gin> steven_, it brings you to the console
[22:09] <Carbonflux> I just wish it was a option heh, at least for the desktop version
[22:09] <linxeh> Carbonflux: no idea - I'm not running 8.04 yet, though thinking of upgrading
[22:10] <Gin> steven_, alt+ctrl+f7 brings you back to the GUI
[22:10] <Takalius> Hmm
[22:10] <tritium> Carbonflux: why does everything you say include "heh"?
[22:10] <Carbonflux> linxeh, well, I like 8.04, just issues with the audio is all
[22:10] <Gin> Carbonflux: same here. pulseaudio was a bad move. they should have stick with alsa :\
[22:10] <friel> best place to ask for bluetooth help on 8.04
[22:10] <steven_> i want to start 2 different xterms so that I can run in one a full-screen game, and in the other my normal apps. Any idea how to do that? I've been reading the xterm man page, but no luck.
[22:10] <Takalius> Luig1, This really sucks. I can't install gnome because of unmet dependancies, and I can't uninstall it because it isn't installed
[22:11] <Carbonflux> tritium, because I understand this is a FOSS channel and I want to be nice even tho I am deeply frustrated with pulse audio and the fact that for a few weeks now I have gotten no traction on it and that the issues are being ignored and for some reason the people deciding this stuff are forcing pulse audio on us and I don't want it or like it :)
[22:11] <Flannel> Takalius: which unmet dependencies?
[22:12] <Gumby> Hi all, I am trying to start vino vnc server remotely via ssh and I am unsure where or what its binary is called.  Does anyone know?
[22:12] <Takalius> Flannel, gnome-desktop-environment, which depends on gnome-keyring-manager
[22:12] <Carbonflux> Ubuntu desktop depends on it for peats sake
[22:12] <Carbonflux> its nuts
[22:12] <Takalius> Flannel, but it says gnome-keyring-manager is obsolete
[22:12] <recon> Does anybody know how to use (I assume it's a compressed file) a .sea file?
[22:12] <friel> Got a problem with my bluetooth manager, whenever i try to send a file via it, Method "CreateBluetoothSession" with signature "ssb" on interface "org.openobex.Manager" doesn't exist appears.
[22:13] <robg_> Carbonflux: Pulse Audio seems to be the most popular audio app but you are free to pick another one from the Medibuntu repository.
[22:13] <Flannel> Takalius: have you updated your package cache recently? (sudo apt-get update)?
[22:13] <Carbonflux> Gin, seems like the argument is that to support iPods better and stuff it had to happen at some point
[22:13] <Takalius> Flannel, yes
[22:13] <dimedo> is it somehow possible to get the ubuntu alternative installer to setup twofish-xts-plain crypted partitions?
[22:13] <Carbonflux> robg_, thanks :)
[22:13] <Adys> recon, http://www.fileinfo.net/extension/sea
[22:13] <Flannel> Takalius: Alright, pastebin the error it gives you when trying to install as well as your sources.list please
[22:13] <johnny_> hallo
[22:13] <recon> Adys: Saw that, but there's no linux tool.
[22:13] <Adys> recon, I doubt there's one
[22:14] <marshall> is there a way i can run windows apps off my windows partition (mounted under /media/disk) with wine?
[22:14] <Flannel> Carbonflux: You can remove it (and remove ubuntu-desktop with it) without causing problems to your system
[22:14] <johnny_> hi xp users
[22:14] <biabia> when i upgraded to Hardy, it unknowingly upgraded my firefox to 3beta5. i heard theres a newer firefox now but i dont know how to upgrade to it
[22:14] <Carbonflux> Flannel, what is Ubuntu-desktop ?
[22:14] <recon> Adys: and the tool given is commercial, and I can't afford it.
[22:14] <Flannel> Carbonflux: Its just a metapackage
[22:14] <dimedo> marshall: wine /media/disk/myapp.exe
[22:14] <Adys> marshall, sure, just mount the partition and wine /media/disk/Program\ Files/foo.exe
[22:14] <Ron536> can anyone help me connect to the net?
[22:14] <Ron536> just installed ubuntu
[22:14] <Ron536> cant get a wired connection
[22:14] <Ron536> please
[22:14] <Carbonflux> Flannel, which everything else depends on right? if I remove it trashes my system right?
[22:14] <johnny_> congratulqtions
[22:14] <Adys> Ron536, you are on a wireless connection atm?
[22:15] <marshall> Carbonflux, its a meta-package that links to the family of packages that makeup the ubuntu desktop
[22:15] <Flannel> Carbonflux: no, if you remove it nothing changes.
[22:15] <johnny_> ubuntu 8.04 lts
[22:15] <Ron536> it is wired
[22:15] <redwyrm> how do I configure what my Toshiba laptop does when the lid closes? I want it to lock the screen.
[22:15] <marshall> Adys, dimedo, I just tried that wint iexplore.exe and it didnt work
[22:15] <Adys> Ron536, you are connected if you can read this. What problem are you getting?
[22:15] <Carbonflux> marshall, I don't understand how I can safely remove such a thing :)
[22:15] <tritium> redwyrm: System -> Preferences -> Power Management
[22:15] <Flannel> Carbonflux: metapackages depend on things, not the other way around.  Removing them will not change a single thing (well, except the package wont be installed)
[22:15] <Adys> marshall, what does it say?
[22:15] <Ron536> newest version, just downloaded it
[22:15] <Darlok_Williams> Hey, I'm having an issue that isn't exactly Ubuntu related, but it IS preventing me from installing it.  I just bought a new computer with a SATA hard drive.  All my personal files are currently on an IDE drive.  The new motherboard has a PIDE connection and I installed the IDE drive there.  But the computer doesn't recognize the drive (not even in BIOS).  Where can I go to find a solution?
[22:15] <friel> Got a problem with my bluetooth manager, whenever i try to send a file via it, Method "CreateBluetoothSession" with signature "ssb" on interface "org.openobex.Manager" doesn't exist appears.
[22:16] <johnny_> wired is always better than wireless
[22:16] <Carbonflux> Flannel, could that effect how updates work etc?
[22:16] <Flannel> Carbonflux: u-d depends on A, B, and C.  When you install it, you install A B and C to meet the depends, but when you remove it, A B and C are still around.
[22:16] <tritium> Carbonflux: it's just a meta-package.  It contains no actual files itself.  It's merely a list of dependencies.
[22:16] <Ron536> anyone?
[22:16] <Ron536> please
[22:16] <Frederick> folks is there any tool in ubuntu which can edit my mounting points for me so I don't need to write fstab by hand?
[22:16] <dunkelheit> helo
[22:16] <dunkelheit> ta otimo
[22:16] <redwyrm> tritium, is there a command-line way to get to the Power Management window?
[22:16] <dunkelheit> eu uso sistema linux huaehiauehiae
[22:16] <Flannel> Carbonflux: No.  It will be reinstalled (automatically, by update-manager) when you upgrade to Intrepid, but as for sticking with Hardy, no, nothing will change.
[22:16] <Carbonflux> Flannel, did you remove it?
[22:16] <Frederick> dunkelheit: cala a boca
[22:16] <marshall> Carbonflux, its not the packages itself, its just a label for all of them. if you remove one that is part of the meta-package, all the packages arent uninstalled, but since they arent all installed, it marks ubuntu-desktop as uninstalled
[22:16] <tritium> redwyrm: gnome-power-manager
[22:16] <dundel> since a couple of days, when i try to watch trailers on www.apple.com/trailers I get a get latest quicktime sign
[22:17] <Flannel> Carbonflux: I would have no problem removing it if I had it in the first place.
[22:17] <dunkelheit> folgado vc ein
[22:17] <marshall> Adys, ill pastebin
[22:17] <Adys> Darlok_Williams, probably more luck with your motherboard's brand forums
[22:17] <Carbonflux> Flannel, you don't run gnome?
[22:17] <Ron536> no one here wants to help me get my internet connection going?
[22:17] <Flannel> Carbonflux: No
[22:17] <Darlok_Williams> Adys: Okay, thank you.
[22:17] <mlair1> Ron536, are you on your Ubuntu computer right now?
[22:17] <redwyrm> tritium, thanks a lot :)
[22:17] <Takalius> Flannel, Luig1, #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.04 _Hardy Heron_ - Release i386 (20080423)]/ hardy main res
[22:17] <Takalius> tricted
[22:17] <Takalius> # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
[22:17] <Takalius> # newer versions of the distribution.
[22:17] <Takalius> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted
[22:17] <FloodBot3> Takalius: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:17] <Takalius> deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted
[22:17] <Ron536> no - my laptop
[22:18] <Ron536> mlair - i have my desktop in front of me though
[22:18] <Flannel> Takalius: Pastebin, not paste in the channel.  You'll be able to talk in the channel one you're done, in the meantime, check the link Floodbot sent you
[22:18] <mlair1> do you have the network-manager and network-manager-gnome packages installed?
[22:18] <Ron536> dont know
[22:18] <^Ocean^> there is some new program that keeps flooding my console with error messages..    i had the problem before, and then removed the program but i cnat remember what it is
[22:18] <marshall> Adys, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14388/
[22:19] <^Ocean^> somthing todo with ata1. and harddrive
[22:19] <Takalius> Flannel, Luig1, http://pastebin.com/d1785bdf6
[22:19] <Monica_2> help! how do i fix the white screen bug?
[22:19] <mlair1> Ron, do you know how to use Synaptic package manager?
[22:19] <Carbonflux> marshall, thanks, it still does not seem safe to mess with a high level dependency like that, its I assume removing it will mess something up down the road, thanks for taking the time to explain it :)
[22:19] <dassouki> i can't seem to run audacity with rhythm box and skype, i can't run any combination of the 2
[22:19] <tritium> Carbonflux: it's safe, as we've explained
[22:19] <Dominion076> how do you rollback the latest update. i can no longer get my music player to work. anyone else having a problem?
[22:19] <marshall> Carbonflux, lol i dont think you understand
[22:19] <Adys> marshall, try to overwrite shdocvw.dll by the legacy one ( winecfg )
[22:19] <Flannel> Carbonflux: Its not a dependency
[22:20] <Carbonflux> excuse me, its a meta package
[22:20] <Ron536> mlair - i just pm u
[22:20] <Adys> either way, it's just unimplemented/buggy functions, not a problem with your mount afaik
[22:20] <Carbonflux> I am not as inexperienced as it seems
[22:20] <Monica_2> plz, help a gal with a white screen problem, boys
[22:20] <Carbonflux> its a mistake to remove it
[22:20] <Ron536> i am inexperienced
[22:20] <Carbonflux> it has to be
[22:20] <mlair1> no problem
[22:20] <Dominion076> peanut man down. need backup. musicp player no longer working
[22:21] <Flannel> Carbonflux: No, removing it will make no difference to your system at all
[22:21] <Ron536> mlair - can we discuss in pm?
[22:21] <dennda> The hardy (alternate) installer is the buggiest debian installer I have ever seen. I already encountered several bugs. Now my most recent problem is this: I set up a crpyto device that contains an LVM. I did this several times. Upon reboot the machine doesn't accept my passphrase...
[22:21] <Ron536> please
[22:21] <Dominion076> i'm a noob and need some help
[22:21] <Flannel> Takalius: Do you know that gnome-desktop-environment is the stock gnome, and not the one you installed with? (which is ubuntu-desktop)
[22:21] <Carbonflux> Flannel, not until down the road when they use it as a container to trigger other updates, I can see how removing it right now might not be a problem, but down the road it will be
[22:22] <Ron536> anyone want to help a noob connect to the internet?
[22:22] <Ron536> please!!!!
[22:22] <mlair1> sure, give me a second. I've having trouble with my IRC client
[22:22] <mlair1> can't get PMs
[22:22] <robg_> dennda: you must have done a faulty install. The installer is the easiest around. It does all the work. You only need to be able to fill in a form of 5 lines.
[22:22] <tritium> Carbonflux: if you choose to dist-upgrade to a new release, you can reinstall it at that point.
[22:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience | Ron536
[22:22] <Ron536> thank u mlair
[22:22] <cntb> 1373 users
[22:22] <Ron536> i will wait
[22:22] <mixed> I can only hear output on my right speaker, anyone has any ideas?
[22:22] <Flannel> Carbonflux: No.  Like I said, only when you update to intrepid, in which case, it will be automatically reinstalled by update-manager.  *no* updates will come through ubuntu-desktop in Hardy
[22:22] <tritium> Carbonflux: and FYI, the major pulse audio fixes are already in intrepid
[22:22] <Ron536> mixed - plug in the left speaker
[22:22] <cntb> any non-ubunut specific sysadmin questions welcomed also at ##linuxadmin
[22:23] <Carbonflux> I thought hardy was 3 years of long term support
[22:23] <cntb> typo :: any non-ubuntu specific sysadmin questions welcomed also at ##linuxadmin
[22:23] <dennda> robg_: Seriously, this is not the first time I use the debian installer. :)
[22:23] <Carbonflux> now you guys are talking about intrepid?
[22:23] <Flannel> Carbonflux: It is
[22:23] <mixed> Ron536, BOTH speakers are plugged in, even on the headphones I can only hear on the right side
[22:23] <tritium> Carbonflux: that's correct
[22:23] <biabia> when i upgraded to Hardy, it unknowingly upgraded my firefox to 3beta5. i heard theres a newer firefox now but i dont know how to upgrade to it
[22:23] <Oak_> I have installed ubuntu on two systems with the same network settings and my connection only works on this one... the only difference is that I used wuibi to install on this one... anyone know what may be going on?
[22:23] <Takalius> Flannel, installing ubuntu-desktop
[22:23] <Carbonflux> so what was the point of installing hardy then?
[22:23] <mlaird> Ron, send me another PM
[22:23] <Carbonflux> whats the point of the 3 year support?
[22:23] <dennda> robg_: Believe me when I tell you I encountered several bugs and usability issues. And yes, I will file bugreports but at the moment I am a bit annoyed, especially because I cannot boot my system now.
[22:23] <Carbonflux> I don't get it
[22:23] <Carbonflux> heh
[22:23] <Flannel> !enter | Carbonflux
[22:24] <Carbonflux> thanks for the information tho :)
[22:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Carbonflux Please take your discussion to #Uubntu-offtopic
[22:24] <robg_> dennda: I am talking ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso from //releases.ubuntu.com
[22:24] <jope> anyone able to help wiith installing a wireless driver with ndiswrapper pls
[22:24] <tritium> Carbonflux: there's nothing wrong with new releases, even though the old one will still be supported long term
[22:24] <Carbonflux> Jack_Sparrow, this is big time on topic, I need help
[22:24] <Flannel> Takalius: It does seem that gnome-keyring-manager is unavailable.  You should definately file a bug at launchpad about it, or email the package maintainer.
[22:24] <Carbonflux> will the pulse audio fixes make it into hardy?
[22:24] <dennda> robg_: Yes, me too. And guess what. I compared the md5 hash, it was correct. I checked the CD with the internal tools, it was valid.
[22:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Carbonflux You are rambling and not asking a question...
[22:24] <tritium> Carbonflux: yes, 8.04.1
[22:25] <Carbonflux> Jack_Sparrow, you know anything about the pulse audio issues that can help me then?
[22:25] <Ron536> mlaird - sent
[22:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Carbonflux Nope
[22:25] <gcarrillo> whats the command to list gstreamer plugin options? (specifically lame)
[22:25] <robg_> dennda: you must be a linux nerd. You get too involved. just let the installer do the work and don't mess with it.
[22:25] <dennda> Now please someone tell me: What magic spell do I have to perform to make hardy accept the crypto passphrase I just set up a minute ago
[22:25] <dennda> robg_: I need a special setup which the automatic partitioner cannot handle.
[22:25] <Carbonflux> tritium, so if I just wait it out it will stablize?
[22:25] <jope> ive been trying to get a bcm4310 driver work with ndiswrapper, but failed. not sure what stage im at or why it wont work, anyone able to help
[22:25] <Dominion076> getting playback error with music player: failed to connect stream: invalid argument after the latest update
[22:26] <Carbonflux> Jack_Sparrow, do you know anything about the implications of removing Ubuntu-desktop ?
[22:26] <Ron536> mlaird - can u enter chat using firefox instead of irc?
[22:26] <SDr> dennda, woodoo chanting with a virgin sacrifice on the concellation of a prime unixtime, and a blue moon.
[22:26] <Adys> Carbonflux, feel free to remove ubuntu-desktop if you dont want dependent packages
[22:26] <tritium> Carbonflux: yes
[22:26] <Darlok_Williams> I have a plain IDE drive.  Is it compatible with a PIDE connector?
[22:26] <robg_> dennda: you cannot go around altering distro's. Either you use it as is or you don't use it.
[22:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Carbonflux The meta-package...  depends on what you are trying to accomplish
[22:26] <mlaird> I don't know what's up. I can't seem to send/receive PMs. At any rate, go to System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[22:26] <Carbonflux> tritium, thanks :)
[22:27] <Ron536> mlaird - ok - in
[22:27] <Takalius> Flannel, I'll brb, gonna reboot. I installed ubuntu-desktop
[22:27] <mlaird> scroll down and see if network-manager and network-manager-gnome packages have a little green box next to them
[22:27] <Cromag> Monica_2: are you using nvidia ?
[22:27] <Monica_2> help!!!!! i have a white screen after start up, what can i do?
[22:28] <Carbonflux> Jack_Sparrow, I am trying to see if its rational to attempt to remove pulse audio until its more stable, when I try and remove it, it also wants to remove ubuntu desktop, which does not seem like a good thing.
[22:28] <dennda> robg_: You don't see the point. I want to use that distro, it does what I need. Unfortunately though, I cannot use the tools the distro provides because they are just plain bugged. It worked with the RC
[22:28] <Monica_2> no, AMD64
[22:28] <Flannel> robg_: Stop.  They're not altering anything, they're using it how it was designed.
[22:28] <tritium> Carbonflux: if you're anxious, you might consider trying hardy-backports
[22:28] <dennda> Maybe I'll just take that and upgrade
[22:28] <Ron536> mlaird - green
[22:28] <Adys> Carbonflux, it's a bit whiny on dist-upgrade with the update-manager, but in those cases just change repos and use synaptic. it's no problem
[22:28] <Cromag> Monica_2: you graphic card :)
[22:28] <jope> anyone been able to get a bcm4310 card to work wireless
[22:28] <Adys> Carbonflux, just dont remove ubuntu-minimal
[22:28] <Carbonflux> Adys, I guess thats my problem, I don't fully understand the implecations of removing it.
[22:28] <Flannel> Carbonflux: #ubuntu-offtopic and we can talk all about it
[22:28] <backgen> hey guys can anyone recommend some good Music Software for Ubuntu Gibbon? I just want to plug my I-pod and be able to play songs on my computer
[22:29] <Carbonflux> its fine, I am going to try something else
[22:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Carbonflux I dont think that will accomplish what you hope it will..   Perhaps /join #Alsa to see if they can help with it
[22:29] <Monica_2> cromag, it happened aftr installing a login mngr and splash screen, it is a ATI Radeon HD 2400 xt
[22:29] <Ron536> mlaird - they are both gren
[22:29] <atlef> !metapackage
[22:29] <Carbonflux> I really want a stable install
[22:29] <mlaird> ok
[22:29] <Adys> Carbonflux, it's a metapackage which exists just to have dependencies and make various installations easier
[22:29] <backgen> Kind of like I-tunes i guess
[22:29] <atlef> !metapackage | Carbonflux:
[22:29] <Cromag> Monica_2: ok, the white screen seems, for now, to be a beryl bug..
[22:29] <Monica_2> cromag, can you help me sugar?
[22:29] <mlaird> system -> administration -> network tools
[22:29] <Adys> Carbonflux, but if you have sound problems you probably want to get pulseaudio working rather than reinstalling also etc
[22:29] <jope> no one able to help with a bc4310 driver and ndiswrapper for a wireless card?
[22:29] <Cromag> Monica_2: but when does the white screen appear ?
[22:30] <Ron536> mlaird - k
[22:30] <Ron536> in
[22:30] <Carbonflux> Adys, just playing two or more sources at once, and VLC problems.
[22:30] <backgen> Hey guys can anyone recommend an app similar to I-tunes so that i can just plug in my I-pod and play some songs?
[22:30] <Darlok_Williams> I have a plain IDE drive.  Is it compatible with a PIDE connector?
[22:30] <Adys> Carbonflux, apt-get install vlc-plugin-pulse
[22:30] <atlef> Carbonflux: do you have s/pdif
[22:30] <Monica_2> cromag after i login, the splash screen shows, then nothing but a white screen
[22:30] <jimimaxo> hay
[22:30] <Carbonflux> thank you everyone that answered
[22:30] <Monica_2> :.(
[22:30] <mlaird> in the network device drop down do you have an eth0?
[22:30] <Carbonflux> I have s/pdif turned off
[22:30] <Cromag> Monica_2: http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=3756&hilit=white  see if this post helps you a bit.
[22:30] <atlef> Carbonflux: ok
[22:31] <Carbonflux> because I don't have speakers that support it
[22:31] <Ron536> mlaird- yes
[22:31] <Cromag> Monica_2: wait.. wrong..
[22:31] <Monica_2> cromag, will u hang around for a sec, sugar?
[22:31] <Monica_2> ok
[22:31] <atlef> Carbonflux: i just know it's a problem with pulseaudio
[22:31] <mlaird> when you select it do you see anything in the IP Information or is it blank?
[22:31] <Carbonflux> atlef, thanks :)
[22:31] <Sindacious> Can anyone tell me how I can check what ports are Firewalled by my PC?
[22:31] <Ron536> mlaird - ip info is there , scope = link
[22:31] <Monica_2> cromag, i can use the console, what can i do?
[22:32] <jope> anyone know anything about ndiswrapper?
[22:32] <Adys> jope, sure. what do you need to know?
[22:32] <blacking> how change the official login page of Ubuntu?
[22:32] <mlaird> I guess I should also ask that your ethernet cable is plugged into your computer
[22:32] <Cromag> Monica_2: i'm trying to figure it out, it still seems to be  desktop effects issue, but not sure yet.
[22:32] <Carbonflux> I guess I will just have to hang in there with pulse audio and wait for it to stabilize, thanks for the explanation :)
[22:32] <Adys> Carbonflux, see your PMs
[22:32] <Ron536> yup - from my computer into a 30 port switch
[22:32] <tritium> blacking: what do you mean by "login page"?
[22:33] <Cromag> Monica_2: did you install ATI driver at the same time ?
[22:33] <Ron536> mlaird - the green lights are on on the switch
[22:33] <Monica_2> cromag, thanks honey, its not easy being a gal who is into computers :)
[22:33] <atlef> blacking: go to system menu - admin - and login window
[22:33] <jope> adys, im trying to install for a bcm4310 card, i htought i had followed the instrucctions but cant get it to wwork. now i dont know what stage im at or what is going wrong
[22:33] <Ron536> mlaird - i am using this laptop hardwired also from the same switch
[22:33] <Cromag> Monica_2: theres a womens section on ubuntu forums afaik.
[22:33] <mlaird> ok, and you are sure there is no problem with the switch?
[22:34] <Ron536> none
[22:34] <Monica_2> cromag, i installed everything about a week ago, but the login screen and splash, today
[22:34] <Ron536> mlaird - voip and laptop are working fine with the switch
[22:34] <riban> hi, how come speaker-test gives me no sound, yet my sound works?
[22:34] <Monica_2> cromag, its too catty for me in there, lol
[22:34] <blacking> tnx
[22:34] <mlaird> next to the Network device drop down there is a configure button
[22:34] <atlef> riban: blame pulseaudio
[22:34] <Ron536> mlaird - all i have are three ports that are in use on it - laptop - voip - and ubuntu desktop
[22:34] <Cromag> Monica_2: ah ye i understand. Uhm. what login and splash is it ?
[22:34] <mlaird> click it to configure eth0
[22:35] <riban> atlef, Pulseaudio? Something I'm missing?
[22:35] <Ron536> mlaird - configure is greyed out
[22:35] <Monica_2> cromag, i got the login from a website, gnom-look i think
[22:35] <Takalius> Alright, gnome is working now
[22:35] <atlef> riban: no, it's a "feature" of ubuntu hardy
[22:35] <Cromag> Monica_2: ok. sec.
[22:35] <Takalius> Now I just gotta fix the 1280x1028 issue
[22:35] <larson9999> i haven't been this giddy since i don't know when
[22:35] <Takalius> (Resolution doesn't exist) and it's all fixed
[22:35] <Heartsbane> Anyone have any idea how I would get my volume control icon back in the system tray
[22:35] <Monica_2> cromag, the splash i did myself, its just a picture
[22:35] <atlef> !pulseaudio | riban:
[22:35] <riban> atlef: should I stick with alsa or move to pulse? I'm not really informed on pulse
[22:36] <effowe> hey, how can i configure my eth0 interface to be dhcp from the command line?
[22:36] <mlaird> ok, do you know how to use the command line terminal?
[22:36] <Paradoxx> How can I compile a *.cs file at the terminal?
[22:36] <Monica_2> cromag, thanks, sweetie
[22:36] <jope> adys, any ideas i could try?
[22:36] <Ron536> mlaird - i know how to get to it - yes
[22:36] <Adys> jope, checking atm
[22:36] <jope> ok thanks
[22:36] <mlaird> ok, open it up and type nm-applet
[22:36] <mlaird> it should put an icon in your taskbar
[22:36] <atlef> riban: well my only problem is with s/pdif and it is driving me crazy
[22:36] <Cromag> Monica_2: ah ok, so mostly it would be the login stuff that could cause this issue. How do you install it ? - well.. we COULD reinstall xorg tho..
[22:37] <mlaird> actually, you might now have two of the same icon on your taskbar
[22:37] <effowe> can anyone tell me how to configure my eth0 interface from the command line?
[22:37] <riban> atlef: Wanna join the club? I'm using spdif (Coax) out and trying to get 5.1 to work, I too am going crazy
[22:37] <Monica_2> cromag, is there a way to revert the login manager to the default?
[22:37] <tritium> effowe: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[22:37] <Sergiu> hello
[22:37] <effowe> tritium: thank you
[22:37] <atlef> riban: welcome
[22:37] <pstangcjd> effowe: man ifconfig
[22:37] <Cromag> Monica_2: i would believe there is, trying to look for something.
[22:37] <Ron536> mlaird- i now have 2
[22:37] <Sergiu> it is possible to use for example /media/iso as source repository?
[22:37] <tritium> riban: that's not encouraging to hear.  I was going to re-install my htpc with mythbuntu 8.04
[22:38] <mlaird> ok, do ctrl+c in the terminal then
[22:38] <larson9999> ubuntu and this lappy just aren't going to be friends
[22:38] <Paradoxx> How can I compile a c sharp file in the terminal?
[22:38] <effowe> pstangcjd: thank you as well, off to read
[22:38] <Heartsbane> Anyone have any idea how I would get my volume control icon back in the system tray?
[22:38] <Monica_2> cromag, ok, i can only access the console at this point
[22:38] <Ron536> ctrl+c
[22:38] <mlaird> that should leave you with one again
[22:38] <mlaird> then double click that icon in the taskbar
[22:38] <atlef> riban: so far the solution is to remove pulseaudio, which did not work for me.
[22:38] <riban> haha sorry tritium I've been searching for days and no replies
[22:38] <mlaird> single click, I mean
[22:38] <Cromag> Monica_2: yeah, that should bve fine, one sec.
[22:38]  * dennda sighs
[22:38] <riban> atlef: I'm going to try removing pulseaudio hopefully it doesn't ruin sound for me :O, thanks for the tip!
[22:38] <mlaird> is wired network selected?
[22:39] <Monica_2> cromag, you are a sweetheart!
[22:39] <Ron536> i dont show wireless
[22:39] <jc___> how do install a 32 bit lib that I need (libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a) in a64
[22:39] <jc___> I already have the 64 bit lib installed
[22:39] <atlef> riban: you are welcome, and please file a bug report at launchpad
[22:39] <mlaird> do you have wired?
[22:39] <Ron536> mlaird-only wired for now
[22:39] <Cromag> Monica_2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=523549 - you could try if you can get into gnome this way.
[22:39] <riban> atlef: You mean there already isn't a bug reported?
[22:40] <Ron536> i have a wireless card on the desktop - but it is not appearing
[22:40] <Ron536> that is another issue, i just want the wired one up for now
[22:40] <Monica_2> cromag, ok, canu hang out for a sec hile i check? plz?
[22:40] <Cromag> sure
[22:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Monica_2 Have you done much tweeking of gnome as far as launchers etc?
[22:40] <mlaird> wait, I might have gotten confused. You are trying to get wired or wireless working on the ubuntu machine?
[22:40] <smallfoot-> is $UID a bashism or is it a standard feature that dash does not support?
[22:40] <atlef> riban: several, but have not reported one yet nor have i read the once that are there
[22:40] <mlaird> ok, wired then
[22:40] <Carbonflux> riban, please let me know how it works out :) I would like to try it too perhaps
[22:41] <Ron536> i am trying wired
[22:41] <Monica_2> thnk you , jack_sparrow, no
[22:41] <SeaPhor> mlaird, Please type the nick of the person you're talking to, it can get difficult to follow someone you're trying to help :-)
[22:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Monica_2 I will give you a link that will show how to reset gnome back to original
[22:41] <giantmidget> hi there. can anyone suggest a command for logging out of X? im using 'killall X' but that seems somewhat barbaric... perhaps something more appropriate?
[22:41] <Ron536> seaphor - i am following fine - he is helping me
[22:41] <Monica_2> jack_sparrow, ummm, ok, cromag, i'll brb
[22:41] <erUSUL> giantmidget: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[22:42] <atlef> riban: oh, and sadly, Windows works "out of the box"
[22:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Monica_2 http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[22:42] <Cromag> Monica_2: sure.
[22:42] <shinjin> I have 2 hard drives and the one with ubuntu is smaller and set as slave. I want to move it to the master. Is there a way I can do that and it move all the applications, documents, ect?
[22:42] <g[r]eek> Hi guys I've just installed 8.04 desktop. I have 2 screens. Currently they clone each other (the default it seems). I'd like to setup dual monitors. How do I do that?
[22:42] <Cromag> Jack_Sparrow: uh nice.
[22:42] <Monica_2> jack_sparrow, thank you
[22:42] <giantmidget> erUSUL, im not using any login manager >P
[22:42] <Monica_2> brb
[22:42] <riban> atlef: I know, its sad :(
[22:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Cromag A last reesort...  but better than a reinstall
[22:42] <giantmidget> erUSUL, thanks for the suggestion, though :)
[22:42] <mlaird> Ron536 - is wired checked in the network manager applet
[22:43] <Cromag> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, i thought it was WAAAAAAY more complicated than that..
[22:43] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[22:43] <atlef> shinjin: you could try clonezilla . http://www.clonezilla.org/
[22:43] <g[r]eek> My graphics card is ATI
[22:43] <Ron536> mlaird - checked
[22:43] <shinjin> atlef: Thanks, I'll try it out.
[22:43] <SeaPhor> Ron536, Great, but it does make things much easier, just offering some helpful advice, it can get much more busy in here :-)
[22:43] <Cromag> Jack_Sparrow: do you have any ideas about the whitescreen other than the manager ?
[22:44] <mlaird> Ron536 - click Manual Configuration in the network manager applet
[22:44] <Ron536> mlaird - done
[22:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Cromag I am setting up for a party so.. I wasnt paying a lot of attention
[22:44] <shinjin> Anyone happen to have a tutorial on how to put a swap file on a second hard drive and know what size it should be? I have a 10 Gig hard drive that I can use all of it for but that seems sorta useless. I do a lot of computer graphics editing though.
[22:44] <mlaird> Ron536 - in the Wired connection it says "roaming mode enabled"?
[22:44] <Cromag> Jack_Sparrow: ah ok :)
[22:45] <g[r]eek> How do I setup dual monitors?;
[22:45] <epoxxy> I have a funny little problem, I cant seem to make ubuntu to play several sounds at the same time unless I use pulseaudio, but many games doesnt support pulseaudio and get silent??? Solution?
[22:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Cromag could she get in with recovery mode
[22:45] <Ron536> mlaird - does not
[22:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !twinview
[22:45] <mlaird> Ron536 - what does it say?
[22:45] <Flannel> !swap | shinjin
[22:45] <Cromag> Jack_Sparrow: i tried to get her to Safe Gnome at this point
[22:45] <atlef> !swap | shinjin:
[22:45] <cntb>  any non-ubuntu specific sysadmin questions welcomed also at ##linuxadmin
[22:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Cromag k
[22:46] <mlaird> Ron536 - I'm assuming you want the desktop to get a dynamic IP. tell me if that is not the case
[22:46] <Ron536> mlaird - i disabled it when i was trying to connect before - it is just unchecked, "connection settings - dhcp"
[22:46] <ehc> I can burn .ogg files with k3b but not .mp3s. What software do I need to install to be able to burn audio cds from .mp3s?
[22:46] <eisenhower> Where can I add new signitures?
[22:46] <Jack_Sparrow> ehc k3b has a mp3 addon in synaptic
[22:46] <tritium> !mpe | ehc
[22:47] <tritium> !mp3 | ehc
[22:47] <Ron536> mlaird- i dont care what type of ip it gets, as long is one is assigned i can get online :-)
[22:47] <mlaird> Ron536 - and it didn't work before with roaming mode enabled?
[22:47] <Ron536> didnt work
[22:47] <Monica_2> jack_sparrow, that removed the splash screen, but the same login manager is there, and the white screen. do you think it is the x server?how can i fix that?
[22:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Monica_2 recovery mode and revert to orig gdm theme
[22:48] <Monica_2> how?
[22:48] <indio> ﻿My aMSN no longer displays a color un my taskbar when someone talks to me.
[22:48] <oc80z> hey guys
[22:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Monica_2 dual or single boot
[22:48] <indio> ﻿Ubuntu 8.04.
[22:48] <Monica_2> dual boot
[22:48] <oc80z> i am looking for the correct URL for the WebBoard (PASTEBIN) Panel
[22:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Monica_2 hitting escape on boot should get you a grub menu with recovery mode
[22:49] <oc80z> do you know what that is the Panel Applet WebBoard (0.02) for Pastebin? its currently paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[22:49] <atlef> !paste | oc80z:
[22:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Monica_2 should be the second grub option
[22:49] <Monica_2> ok, brb, please dont leave
[22:49] <oc80z> ok thanks ubottu maybe tahgt will work
[22:49] <jc___> nevermind I just got the latest version of getlibs which seems to be working now
[22:49] <CShadowRun> !wireless
[22:49] <kane77> why does it fail to install the openssl-blacklist update? it says md5 mismatch..
[22:49] <Monica_2> ok, *blush* how do i reboot from the console?
[22:49] <aaBlueDragon> hi everyone
[22:49] <kane77> Monica_2, sudo reboot
[22:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Monica_2 type reboot or sudo reboot
[22:49] <oc80z> Hmm still does not work
[22:49] <mlaird> Ron536 - and you are sure the switch on that port is setup as a dhcp server?
[22:50] <tritium> Monica_2: or, hit Ctrl-Alt-Delete at the console
[22:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Monica_2 are you in console now.
[22:50] <Monica_2> lol, thanks boys, brb
[22:50] <Monica_2> yes
[22:50] <aaBlueDragon> ive installed ubuntu 8.04 hardy (which is very close to perfectness) and i need help in one thing. can anyone please help me?
[22:50] <Ron536> mlaird - i am not sure, i know i have had a lot of different things on there without any problems before or the need for any special configuration
[22:51] <pstangcjd> aaBlueDragon: ask your question
[22:51] <Monica_2> Jack_Sparrow, i am in console now, yes
[22:51] <Ron536> mlaird - usually very pnp
[22:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Monica_2 It may be a long way around the problem but sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:51] <kane77> aaBlueDragon, do not ask to ask, just ask..
[22:51] <aaBlueDragon> kk i got it!
[22:51] <oc80z> hey when you boot
[22:51] <oc80z> where doe stha tlog go?
[22:51] <Monica_2> will i lose my data?
[22:51] <jc___> can anyone see what I'm typing - I'm not trolling because I'm not getting any replies I just want to make sure my IRC program is working correctly
[22:51] <jope> jc yeah
[22:51] <oc80z> !boot
[22:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Monica_2 I do need to go.. but you should be able to get the answers you need in here... lots of good people
[22:52] <oc80z> !log
[22:52] <aaBlueDragon> in the resolution settings thing, it doesnt detect any monitor at all, it says "unknown"
[22:52] <mlaird> Ron536 - ok. I am reaching the limit of what I can help you with. I've never had a problem with wired ethernet unless it was because the network manager wasn't installed
[22:52] <oc80z> !bootlog
[22:52] <Monica_2> Jack_Sparrow......ok
[22:52] <oc80z> !logboot
[22:52] <jc___> jope: thanks at least I know its working :)
[22:52] <Monica_2> :(
[22:52] <aaBlueDragon> while in xorg.conf its supposed to say configured monitor
[22:52] <mlaird> Ron536 - if you know which ethernet card you are using, google and make sure it works in Hardy
[22:52] <mlaird> Ron536 - but that would be a rare case I would think
[22:53] <Ron536> mlaird - dont know which card, but i will open up the case and check it out
[22:53] <aaBlueDragon> dunno why it says "unknown"
[22:53] <aaBlueDragon> the problem is
[22:53] <Monica_2> Hey, cromag? u hear honey? tritium?
[22:53] <aaBlueDragon> that this causes me not to be able to use 60 herts mode
[22:53] <oc80z> !!is anyone running the ubuntu-powerpc version right now?
[22:53] <aaBlueDragon> can anyone help me?
[22:53] <Cromag> Monica_2: lots of it.
[22:53] <oc80z> ubottu, i think you are the bloot bot nicer
[22:53] <oc80z> !blootbot
[22:54] <tritium> Monica_2: hear what?  There is no sound on IRC.
[22:54] <Cromag> Monica_2: im not sure yet if it will give data loss, but sec.
[22:54] <mlaird> Ron536 - also lookup the command ifconfig
[22:54] <aaBlueDragon> i guess not...
[22:54] <Cromag> !ask
[22:54] <steven_> !media
[22:54] <SeaPhor> Monica_2, don't be sad, many very able people in here, someone will help- see :-)
[22:54] <Monica_2> tritium, srry honey, i meant 'here' lol
[22:54] <Ron536> mlaird - done
[22:54] <jc___> I just installed a deb (the amazon mp3 download manager) with dpkg -i --force-achitecture <file>.deb how do I uninstall it?
[22:54] <steven_> !codecs
[22:55] <Monica_2> seaphor, thank you, all you boys are so helpful *blush* thank you!
[22:55] <bascule> it's why we turn up ... :)
[22:55] <tritium> Monica_2: please, stop with all of that.
[22:55] <aaBlueDragon> Ubuntu 8.04 doesn't detect my monitor and i can't use 60 refresh rate mode. can anyone help now?
[22:56] <corto_> Hello. I tried to install Xbunutu on an old laptop. But when i download (FileZilla) the MD5 is always bad... Does anybody know a *secure* FTP client ?
[22:56] <Treeh416> hey guys
[22:56] <Monica_2> tritium? i'm.....srry, thats how us southern girls are
[22:56] <Cromag> aaBlueDragon: i think you should be more specifik. second monitor, gfx, drivers.
[22:56] <robg_> aaBlueDragon: 50 Hz refresh rate works fine too.
[22:56] <tritium> Monica_2: that's fine, but unnecessary here.
[22:56] <aaBlueDragon> Cromag, i have only one monitor
[22:56] <Treeh416> Does anyone know how to get VMWare to run XP in widescreen?
[22:56] <Ron536> mlaird - done
[22:57] <Monica_2> ok
[22:57] <aaBlueDragon> i use 50 hz while i know i can use 60
[22:57] <Treeh416> Scunizi, Hey, still here :?P
[22:57] <Cromag> aaBlueDragon: you do you know that you cant use 60hz then ?
[22:57] <Cromag> ok
[22:57] <Cromag> check for drivers for gfx maybe
[22:57] <jope> adys, any luck?
[22:57] <aaBlueDragon> i used envy to get the latest. which seemed to work
[22:57] <robg_> aaBlueDragon: what's the difference ?
[22:57] <aaBlueDragon> i now use the accelerated drivers
[22:57] <Monica_2> tritium, jack_sparrow said that in the recovery menu i coulld revert to the default gnome theme, but i dont see that option
[22:58] <aaBlueDragon> the difference is, that i cant use 60 hz mode while in xp i can
[22:58] <Me2resh> i am converting all the users in my company from windows to ubuntu, but how i can import their email messages from microsoft outlook to evolution ?
[22:58] <mlaird> Ron536 - that's all I can help you with here. It looks at least as if there is nothing basic or obvious that is wrong. You can try searching/posting on ubuntuforums.org for more help
[22:58] <Ron536> thanx
[22:58] <Ron536> mlaird, much appreciated
[22:58] <Cromag> Monica_2: he told you something else :)
[22:58] <jope> me2resh install thunderbird, import to thunderbird and then export
[22:58] <Ron536> anyone else wanna try to help me connect to the net?
[22:58] <Cromag> 2405-23:51:22 < Jack_Sparrow> Monica_2 It may be a long way around the problem but sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:58] <tritium> Monica_2: he likely meant you could make a fix by booting into recovery (single user) mode
[22:58] <Ron536> nothing basic seems to be the problem
[22:58] <robg_> aaBlueDragon: did you get Sun Java ?
[22:58] <Treeh416> Does anyone know how to get VMWare to display at a widescreen rez?
[22:59] <aaBlueDragon> no
[22:59] <Monica_2> cromag, i am so confused
[22:59] <aaBlueDragon> would getting sun java help somehow? i mean, its monitor related problem
[22:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Monica_2 Are you in recovery mode?
[22:59] <Monica_2> jack_sparrow, yes i am
[22:59] <Carbonflux> aaBlueDragon, you can also try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org can work for me in terms of generating a proper monitor config, but after then never use the gui settings, really the gui stuff is reporting the wrong values and the best way is to just set them by hand in the xorg.conf, in theory searching the net you might even be able to find a mode line specific to your monitor
[22:59] <Monica_2> it gives me 4 options
[22:59] <Me2resh> jope: thanks
[22:59] <robg_> aaBlueDragon: go to medibuntu repository and follow instructions there. Delete OpenJDK and install Sun Java and all the other nice stuff.
[23:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Monica_2 try this  you should not need the sudo though   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[23:00] <aaBlueDragon> kk got that
[23:00] <Monica_2> jack_sparrow, ok, brb
[23:00] <jope> me2resh ok theres a link somewhere on ubuntu pages i saw it today, but cant find it at moment
[23:00] <eisenhower> can someone explain to the the differnce between signing and encrypting?
[23:00] <aaBlueDragon> thank you very much il try that
[23:01] <jc___> how do remove a package I installed using the --force-architecture option?
[23:01] <jope> adys, any ideas as to what i could try?
[23:01] <Adys> jope, see your PMs
[23:02] <jc___> Adys: what are PM's?
[23:02] <Monica_2> jack_sparrow, it didnt work, it's still a white screen
[23:02] <SliMM> hey
[23:02] <oc80z> Monica_2, what are yoyu trying to do
[23:02] <SliMM> finch is sooo geekish
[23:02] <SeaPhor> jc___,  private messages
[23:03] <Monica_2> oc80z, i installed a custom login screen, and now it gives me a white screen
[23:03] <Xima1> Is there a channel for Open Office Products ? such as SpreadSheet ? please help asap ! ;)
[23:03] <oc80z> ok
[23:03] <Monica_2> and nothin else
[23:03] <Piojoo> i'm using synaptic to update my ubuntu 8.04... my bandwidth is 1mB/s, is it normal that it downlads at a speed of 15kB/s ? if it's not, would someone please help me solve that?
[23:03] <oc80z> so what you have to do is remove the screen :D
[23:04] <oc80z> basically hit control alt F1
[23:04] <oc80z> or alt-f1 i dont know
[23:04] <tritium> Monica_2: revert back to a non-custom screen until you can fix the issue
[23:04] <corto_> Windows XP RULZ!
[23:04] <oc80z> might be f2 or f3
[23:04] <Monica_2> oc80z, ok, i'm in console
[23:04] <SeaPhor> Xima1, 1 sec, looking for you
[23:04] <SliMM> is there a way to make ubuntu (server) to start with a tty screen?
[23:04] <oc80z> and delete that .png or .jpg u used
[23:04] <jc___> Adys: SeaPhor I have nothing in my private messages other then the one SeaPhor just sent me telling what PM's are
[23:04] <Monica_2> tritium, i'm trying, i dont know how
[23:04] <oc80z> Slidey, it should automatically use the console tty
[23:04] <Xima1> thank you... I justneed help SeaPhor with changing it's printing from 1 page to sideways page... lol
[23:05] <tritium> Monica_2: how did you enable the custom one?
[23:05] <SliMM> oc80z: was that meant to me?
[23:05] <Monica_2> tritium, through he login window in preferences
[23:05] <SeaPhor> jc___,  this is not a PM, this is just directed toward you :-)
[23:05] <Piojoo> corto_: when you don't have to pay for it, and when u don't mind having shit as an OS, yes, it rulz :)
[23:05] <Monica_2> i'm srry, admin
[23:05] <Flannel> eisenhower: With signing, you're just providing a way to verify the file came from you (but anyone can read it), with encryption, you're making it so only a few (well, one) person can view the unencrypted file
[23:06] <corto_> Just a little provocation... Of course i agree.
[23:06] <tritium> Monica_2: configuration files are /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[23:06] <ChaosTheory_> how do I bypass the whole GUI login screen?
[23:06] <Monica_2> how do i fix the xserver?
[23:06] <eisenhower> Flannel: aite,   how come I can't even read it?
[23:06] <Flannel> ChaosTheory_: What would you like to do instead?
[23:06] <Flannel> eisenhower: Read what?
[23:06] <SliMM> ChaosTheory_: ctrl+alt+f1?
[23:06] <jc___> SeaPhor: ok so how do I check my PM?
[23:06] <eisenhower> Flannel:  The file
[23:06] <tritium> Monica_2: the server is fine.  Sounds like you installed a broken gdm config.
[23:06] <ChaosTheory_> Flannel: Yes.
[23:07] <ChaosTheory_> Flannel: Will that allow me to do it?
[23:07] <johnfg> hi folks
[23:07] <Flannel> ChaosTheory_: you'd like to do "yes" instead?
[23:07] <Coder365_> I'm having a sound problem with 7.10
[23:07] <ChaosTheory_> Flannel: Sorry, I mean tty.
[23:07] <Flannel> eisenhower: What have you done?
[23:07] <Coder365_> it stopped working, peroid.
[23:07] <corto_> I'm looking for a FTP client that manage the MD5 sum... I always download bad iso for Xbunut
[23:07] <Treeh416> Does anyone know how to run VMware in widescreen??
[23:07] <ChaosTheory_> Flannel: I use ratpoison, so would "ratpoison" on tty make it work?
[23:07] <johnfg> Will ubuntu server give me, besides the server programs I need, pretty much the same desktop as ubuntu desktop?
[23:07] <eisenhower> Flannel: I've just right clicked and clicked sign. then i can never read it afterwards
[23:07] <Flannel> ChaosTheory_: You can, ctrl-alt-f1(or any f through six) will get you to a tty login.  But, you'll still have GDM running, if you want to stop it, you cn do that too.
[23:07] <SeaPhor> Xima1, ok, he's not on atm, there is a person here that actually knows all about all the open office stuff, and i mean REALLY knows, but he's not on at the moment, which is odd cause he's always on,, I'll try whats the issue?
[23:08] <ChaosTheory_> Flannel: Okay, but when I turn on the computer.
[23:08] <Flannel> ChaosTheory_: Under "sessions" in GDM, does ratpoison come up?
[23:08] <ChaosTheory_> Flannel: So that I don't have anything running at all.
[23:08] <ChaosTheory_> Flannel: Yes.
[23:08] <SeaPhor> jc___,  what are you using for chat?
[23:08] <Monica_2> tritium, i know u are probably busy, but could you please hlp me with this? i am using a friends laptop for IRC, and i have a term paper due on monday
[23:08] <oc80z> Monica_2, so you need it fixed asap
[23:08] <Monica_2> tritium, and they need to go soon
[23:08] <Flannel> ChaosTheory_: Just select that, and run it.  But if you want to make it so GDM doesn't start, turn GDM off....
[23:08] <oc80z> Monica_2, delete what you changed please
[23:08] <jc___> SeaPhor: Sorry I just realized I replyed to a note that was not sent to me stupid me, anyway thanks for the info, I think its just comes up as a tab in chatzilla
[23:09] <Flannel> !bum | ChaosTheory_
[23:09] <harpreet> hello all
[23:09] <Xima1> seaphor : do you use private messaging ? i'd rather use it to keep my buffer more tranquil
[23:09] <Monica_2> oc80z, i dont know how
[23:09] <harpreet> monica
[23:09] <harpreet> i have a question
[23:09] <SeaPhor> jc___,  yes, no prob :-)
[23:09] <harpreet> about ubuntu
[23:09] <oc80z> Monica_2, u logged in via console
[23:09] <Cromag> i dont know if reconfigure will help the x
[23:09] <tritium> Monica_2: why are you customizing gdm if you have a term paper due?  ;)  What exactly can I do foryou?
[23:09] <Flannel> eisenhower: I'm not familiar with the GUI tools, let me do some googling.
[23:09] <Slart> corto_: try using bittorrent.. it will take care of transmission errors for you
[23:09] <Xima1> SeaPhor; /
[23:09] <eisenhower> Flannel: the file itsself that I sign is always really small ( in this case 64bytes)
[23:09] <johnfg> What about the server vs. desktop question, or perhaps, a comparison between the two.
[23:09] <harpreet> hello can anyone help me
[23:09] <SeaPhor> Xima1, join #SeaPhor then
[23:09] <Monica_2> tritium, i was just trying to customize the look a little
[23:10] <harpreet> i need help
[23:10] <Xima1> done
[23:10] <Slart> !ask | harpreet
[23:10] <Monica_2> :)
[23:10] <SliMM> do i still have xserver and gnome on ubuntu server?
[23:10] <harpreet> oh
[23:10] <harpreet> thanks
[23:10] <ChaosTheory_> Flannel: So I just disable KDM/GDM?
[23:10] <corto_> Slart: thanx... i supposed i've some stuff to install... I check this
[23:11] <Coder365_> I'm having sound issues with 7.10. It was working yesturday, and then NOTHING, at all...peroid. I can't get it working. I didn't change anything. Anyone have any ideas?
[23:11] <jul> join /#ubuntu-fr
[23:11] <jul> (sorry)
[23:11] <Monica_2> tritium, i just need the white screen fixed so i can access my desktop
[23:11] <harpreet> i am trying to configure my wireless AR5007 802.11 network card and it doesnt work with madwifi or ndiswrapper. The driver gets installed by it does not recognize device
[23:11] <trior1> ﻿join /#ubuntu-fr
[23:11] <jc___> I installed a package with dpkg -i --force-architecture, how do I uninstall it, its not listed in synaptic
[23:11] <orion> net
[23:11] <Flannel> ChaosTheory_: yeah, then you'll have to log in to a tty, and then start ratpoison
[23:11] <Flannel> eisenhower: You're using seahorse, right?
[23:12] <harpreet> i am trying to configure my wireless AR5007 802.11 network card and it doesnt work with madwifi or ndiswrapper. The driver gets installed by it does not recognize device
[23:13] <harpreet> i am trying to configure my wireless AR5007 802.11 network card and it doesnt work with madwifi or ndiswrapper. The driver gets installed by it does not recognize device
[23:13] <Slart> jc___: isn't there an uninstall option for dpkg ?
[23:13] <JoshJ> whee, just updated to 8.04 from 7.10
[23:13] <J-a-k-e> hi, does anyone know how to sort out problems with grub?
[23:13] <JoshJ> a few minor issues... the first being that Compiz is no longer working.
[23:13] <Flannel> !anyone | J-a-k-e
[23:13] <harpreet> whats wrong with your grub jake?
[23:13] <JoshJ> I go in to enable desktop effects and it says  "desktop effects cannot be enabled". I've updated my ATI driver via the new Envy
[23:14] <Slart> jc___: dpkg -r blablabla.deb
[23:14] <Monica_2> how do i install kubuntu from console, if it says it cant find the package?
[23:14] <Flannel> Monica_2: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:14] <JoshJ> Monica_2, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:14] <harpreet> connect it to internet monica
[23:14] <Coder365_> I'm having sound problems with 7.10, it just quit working. i cant get it to start back up, can anyone help?
[23:14] <Monica_2> harpreet, very funny
[23:14] <Slart> jc___: oh.. sorry.. it's dpkg -r <packagename>
[23:14] <jc___> Slart: yes just wondering since the package is not listed in synaptic just wondering if dpkg would find it and if i would have to use the --force-architeture flag agian
[23:14] <p> i have problems with mac osx 86 kalyway it doesn boot
[23:14] <Monica_2> joshj, thank you
[23:14] <Slart> jc___: try without it first
[23:14] <harpreet> monica sometimes ethernet works
[23:14] <Flannel> p: You should ask in a more appropriate channel
[23:14] <harpreet> and it will get the updates
[23:14] <MrBashir> !batch
[23:15] <p> or a other question where are the mac osx cahnnel
[23:15] <Monica_2> harpreet, why are you harassing me/
[23:15] <MrBashir> !batchfile
[23:15] <AcornAcorn> what network sharing protocol does ubuntu use?
 : you need a liveCD to fix GRUB
[23:15] <harpreet> how m i harrassing you?
[23:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot | harpreet
[23:15] <J-a-k-e> harpreet: I grub always stops working properly after a few times even after i install it from the 8.04 cd
[23:15] <Slart> jc___: you can also get a list of installed packages by running dpkg -l   search for a package by using dpkg -l | grep -i somethingtosearchfor
[23:15] <Flannel> p: try #MacOSX or ##macosx
[23:15] <Monica_2> jack_sparrow, thank you
[23:15] <JoshJ> J-a-k-e, it's all in /boot/grub
[23:15] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[23:15] <JoshJ> depending on what your problem is you may need to edit some files in there
[23:16] <Flannel> J-a-k-e: How does it stop working?
[23:16] <J-a-k-e> corto_: I've got it, tried it doesn't work
[23:16] <Slart> AcornAcorn: smb, nfs, ftp, bla bla bla.. almost anything you can think of
[23:16] <harpreet> is it loaded in mbr jake or in boot file?
[23:16] <Lucifer_bed> anybody try to get a GXT6000P running on ubuntu?
[23:16] <MrBashir> How can I make a batch file that wil run at boot whith root privilages?
[23:16] <harpreet> you can reload grub in mbr jake
[23:16] <Monica_2> Jack_Sparrow, i am installing kubuntu, fingers are crossed
[23:16] <AcornAcorn> Slart, so I can just connect to my ubuntu computer using smb protocol? great
[23:16] <JoshJ> MrBashir, put it in /etc/rc.local
[23:17] <Slart> !samba | AcornAcorn
[23:17] <JoshJ> !rc.local
[23:17] <JoshJ> bah.
[23:17] <JoshJ> it's a standard linux shell script
[23:17] <MrBashir> rc.local is a text file?
[23:17] <tritium> MrBashir: it's a bash script
[23:17] <JoshJ> yeah... you can just cat /etc/rc.local right now to look at what's already there
[23:17] <harpreet> i am trying to configure my wireless AR5007 802.11 network card and it doesnt work with madwifi or ndiswrapper. The driver gets installed by it does not recognize device
[23:18] <Demonho-br> hello, my amsn is not working in ubuntu 8.04, when i try to rec sound, i cant because that says error writting on /dev/what i choose....    and my usb webcam is not working as mic.   but it works in skype. its like the amsn is working in OSS not alsa, not sure.. someone here got the problem ??
[23:18] <jc___> Slart: thanks the package is listed that way
[23:18] <MrBashir> JoshJ: thx :)
[23:18] <oc80z> hey whats up
[23:18] <Slart> jc___: and the uninstall worked?
[23:18] <oc80z> is 124 degrees for my ibook g4 laptop too hot?
[23:18] <__mork> Hi. how to automatically change gateway depending on wireless or wired connection has been established
[23:18] <JoshJ> oc80z, is that C or F?
[23:18] <oc80z> F]
[23:18] <Slart> oc80z: well.. unless you're using it to fry up something for breakfast I'd say it is
[23:19] <oc80z> really?
[23:19] <Coder365_> __mork, set up profiles in your connection settings
[23:19] <oc80z> its running Ubuntu PPC
[23:19] <Flannel> !bum | MrBashir
[23:19] <__mork> (guru needed ;-) )
[23:19] <Slart> oc80z: oh.. farenheit.. then it's not to bad =)
[23:19] <Coder365_> then you can switch and hit apply
[23:19] <JoshJ> oc80z, 51 celsius isn't too bad
[23:19] <jc___> Slart: yep that worked thanks
[23:19] <Carbonflux> hm, well it looks like I was able to get everything working with pulse audio still installed after all, with the exception of VLC, its refusing to play nice looks like.
[23:19] <JoshJ> oc80z, i'm at 40 on my desktop, my laptop is reguarly 55-60
[23:19] <JoshJ> (celsius)
[23:19] <JoshJ> it used to hit 80 before i cleaned it out >_>
[23:20] <kane77> why does it fail to install the openssl-blacklist update? it says hash mismatch..
[23:20] <J-a-k-e> I have windows on a 160 ide, ubuntu on a 30 ide, and a 320sata with all my data on it, have tried installing grub the mbr of all of these but after a few times it always stops working. either gets stuck at the loading screen or something along the lines of error 17 or 18 i think missing partition
[23:20] <harpreet> i am trying to configure my wireless AR5007 802.11 network card and it doesnt work with madwifi or ndiswrapper. The driver gets installed by it does not recognize device
[23:20] <__mork> if i have default gateway in /etc/network/interfaces for eth0 as well as for eth1 (wireless), if both come up i experience routing problem
[23:20] <__mork> how to avoid it (without use of nm)??
[23:20] <Flannel> J-a-k-e: is it broken currently?
[23:20] <Coder365_> hm
[23:20] <oc80z> Hmm
[23:20] <oc80z> wierd
[23:21] <Monica_2> ok, how do i revert from kubuntu desktop, back to gnome
[23:21] <JoshJ> monica: on the login screen, hit settings in the corner
[23:21] <JoshJ> and there's a choice there
[23:21] <Monica_2> or is kubuntu somehow better?
[23:21] <Flannel> Monica_2: and under "sessions" choose gnome
[23:21] <JoshJ> Monica_2, please don't start a gnome/KDE flamewar
[23:21] <jagggy> Monica_2, both have positive and negative points...
[23:21] <Monica_2> ohhh, thanks guys
[23:21] <JoshJ> you might as well ask whether vi is better than emacs
[23:21] <Monica_2> woops!
[23:21] <J-a-k-e> Flannel: Yes I am running windows at the moment the only thing that will boot and I can only load it by booting off the 30 ide (slave drive) and selecting it from there
[23:22] <Flannel> Monica_2: They're different, different people like different things, etc.
[23:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Monica_2 did you get working kubuntu?
[23:22] <Monica_2> then disregard that last ?, ok
[23:22] <Monica_2> Jack_Sparrow, it is at 72%
[23:22] <harpreet> stop harrassing me monica
[23:22] <JoshJ> anyway, a problem of my own. "Desktop effects could not be enabled". I'm on an ATI Radeon HD 2400 pro with the ATI driver gotten from EnvyNG
[23:22] <Jack_Sparrow> People, she isnt trying to start a flame war, we installed kubuntu to get around a problem
[23:22] <AcornAcorn> gah, i can't even navigate to the azureus download folder..
[23:22] <Flannel> J-a-k-e: If its broken currently, boot into Ubuntu (since we'll need to reead the files there) and we'll take a look
[23:23] <harpreet> i am trying to configure my wireless AR5007 802.11 network card and it doesnt work with madwifi or ndiswrapper. The driver gets installed by it does not recognize device
[23:23] <Darlok_Williams> I have an IDE hard drive installed as master into my PIDE slot, but it still isn't recognized by BIOS.  Any ideas?
[23:23] <Flannel> J-a-k-e: Wait, You say you can successfully boot by choosing the 30 from the BIOS to boot from?
[23:23] <Coder365_> My sound in ubuntu quit working, someone help
[23:23] <harpreet> i am trying to configure my wireless AR5007 802.11 network card and it doesnt work with madwifi or ndiswrapper. The driver gets installed by it does not recognize device
[23:23] <jagggy> Jack_Sparrow, why would one start a flamewar about that? those 2 are totaly difrent, you can't compare them :s
[23:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude | harpreet
[23:24] <Takalius> Flannel, Luig1, I got it all fixed without reinstalling
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> jagggy everyone has a favorite..
[23:24] <J-a-k-e> Flannel: yes, but only to windows, selecting ubuntu displays an error
[23:24] <punkk> Is there a way to see who is in the channel?
[23:24] <Stu> how do I type a hash on the thin aluminium mac keyboard ??
[23:24] <Flannel> J-a-k-e: Alright, and when you boot off your 320, what do you get?
[23:24] <Flannel> punkk: /names
[23:24] <ganymede> does anyone know how i can make computer, home, and trash icons not appear on the desktop in gnome?
[23:24] <punkk> Flannel, Thanks
[23:24] <JoshJ> punkk, if you're on xchat there's an option to see it
[23:24] <harpreet> ! attitude | Jack_Sparrow
[23:25] <bnex10> hello i'm trying to install fluxbox
[23:25] <bnex10> is there a package
[23:25] <ChaosTheory_> Flannel: Well, I got it to boot to tty by default using bum.
[23:25] <__mork> Hi. how to automatically change gateway depending on wireless or wired connection has been established?
[23:25] <JoshJ> punkk, do view -> user list
[23:25] <punkk> JosjJ, thanks ill try that
[23:25] <ChaosTheory_> Flannel: However, ratpoison won't run ("Can't open display).
[23:25] <Flannel> Stu: shift-3?
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml
[23:25] <Monica_2> Jack_Sparro, i got a display manager screen
[23:25] <Flannel> ChaosTheory_: try startx
[23:25] <JoshJ> (sorry, had to find it again, i've had it set for a while)
[23:25] <Stu> Flannel: that gives a £
[23:25] <ChaosTheory_> Flannel: startx loads up fluxbox
[23:25] <Stu> Flannel:  im on a UK mac keyboard
[23:25] <bnex10> hey you're talking abotu fluxbox
[23:26] <JoshJ> !fluxbox
[23:26] <bnex10> i need help with fluxbox too
[23:26] <Monica_2> Jack_Sparrow, what should i do?
[23:26] <ChaosTheory_> bnex10: Sorry, I don't actually use fluxbox. =P
[23:26] <bnex10> alright
[23:26] <Flannel> Stu: You might try in #ubuntu-uk, I'm not sure where a hash is on a UK keyboard
[23:26] <bnex10> i'm using kubntu :D
 check http://blog.linuxoss.com/2008/05/08/ubuntu-804-enabling-atheros-ar5007-based-wireless/
[23:26] <Flannel> JoshJ: was that really necessary?
[23:26] <J-a-k-e> Flannel: " loading grub 1.5, loading. " computer freezes must hit reset button
[23:26] <JoshJ> Flannel, that was for bnex10 so he can find out how to set it up
[23:26] <ChaosTheory_> bnex10: I use a weird Ubuntu/Kubuntu thing that runs neither, which probably means I need to switch to Slackware. =D
[23:26] <Stu> Flannel: please say that channel name again with the hash but without the comma at the end so I can join it, its kinda impossible without a hash key
[23:26] <Monica_2> Jack_Sparrow, nevermind, it was multiple choice, lol
[23:27] <Flannel> Stu: #ubuntu-uk
[23:27] <Stu> Flannel: im being stupid , I can just delete teh comma lol
[23:27] <tritium> Flannel: it's above the Enter key on the right side of the keyboard.
[23:27] <Stu> Flannel: thanks
[23:27] <ChaosTheory_> Flannel: startx loads up fluxbox
[23:27] <legend2440> ganymede: open gconf-editor go to /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible and uncheck boxes
[23:27] <harpreet_>  
 check http://blog.linuxoss.com/2008/05/08/ubuntu-804-enabling-atheros-ar5007-based-wireless/
[23:28] <harpreet_> tyvm corto
[23:28] <ganymede> legend2440: thanks
[23:29] <zixo> gg
[23:29] <Jack_Sparrow> harpreet_ English please....
[23:29] <Flannel> ChaosTheory_: I've just always used GDM, but I believe you'll need to pass startx some option to get it to use ratpoison as default
[23:29] <STSX> I was able to tweak things in Gutsy so that my computer suspends OK. Before I upgraded to Hardy, I thought I would see what things might break, so I did a fresh install of Hardy on another partition; even after doing the exact tweaks that worked before, I can't get my computer to suspend. Any ideas how to troubleshoot?
[23:29] <corto_> :)
[23:30] <harpreet_> jack i wrote in english and i wrote to corto and i believe he understood, ok?
[23:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !lol | harpreet_
[23:30] <Flannel> J-a-k-e: Alright, so looks like your MBR on your 320 (I'm assuming that's your primary boot device?) has the wrong partition for /boot, or at least, it appears to.  But we can fix the Ubuntu one too.  You could always just boot to the second IDE by default
[23:30] <darkstorm^> hi pplz
 Iget you 'nd you're welcome
[23:31] <Jack_Sparrow> harpreet_ Perhaps I should have asked NOT to use shorthand texting in the channel
[23:31] <robg_> STSX: Ubuntu 8.04 Alternate does not hibernate. It only starts up and shuts down. I suspect this is related to drive encryption.
[23:31] <Monica_2> Jack_Sparrow, kubuntu started fine, but it is still a white screen  :(
[23:32] <tritium> Monica_2: if it were me, I'd just have reinstalled gdm.
[23:32] <harpreet_> its ok jack i did not use 'lol' though
[23:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Monica_2 perhaps I am not understanding the depth of your problem.. Are you just talking about the wallpaper being blank?
[23:32] <STSX> robg: I installed using the Desktop LiveCD, not the Alternate. Is that what you are talking about?
[23:32] <bnex10> +e?
[23:32] <Jack_Sparrow> harpreet_ You did use shorthand.. If you want to split hairs we can discuss it in private or in ops
[23:32] <Monica_2> Jack_Sparrow, no, when it logs on, it is just a blank, white screen, no desktop-nothing
[23:33] <J-a-k-e> Flannel: primary boot device is my 160 ide maxter windows xp, 30 ide is my secondary linux drive and the 320 sata is just a data partition
[23:33] <ganymede> is there a way to make xchat skip the system tray?
[23:33] <Slart> §/j #ubuntu-ops
[23:33] <robg_> STSX: That distro should be able to hibernate.
[23:33] <Monica_2> i get an xserver error, could that be it?
[23:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Monica_2 I cant figure out what you did..
[23:33] <JoshJ> ganymede, yes
[23:33] <__mork> Hi. how to automatically change gateway depending on wireless or wired connection has been established?
[23:33] <ChaosTheory_> Flannel: startx loads fluxbox
[23:33] <MrBashir> Thanks Flannel, but I think I got it :)
[23:33] <Flannel> J-a-k-e: Sorry, I think I had crossed the 160 and the 320.  If you boot to the 160, you get the grub 15 error?  Either way, booting to the 30 works, so we'll go with that for a while.
[23:33] <JoshJ> ganymede, settings-preferences-chatting-alerts, uncheck "enable system tray icon"
[23:33] <STSX> robg: Note I'm trying to get my computer to suspend, not hibernate.
[23:34] <J-a-k-e> Flannel: should I boot off the live cd and reinstall grub http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 the stuff above the red section works for me
[23:34] <tritium> robg_: regardless of install media (alternate/desktop), you can hibernate/suspend in 8.04
[23:34] <Monica_2> Jack_Sparrow, i keep getting an xserver error
[23:34] <CShadowRun> Hey, trying to get my Dell latitude D600 to connect to wireless, It won't connect. It seems to think my wireless adapter is an ethernet connection? (It calls it eth1)
[23:34] <ganymede> JoshJ: thanks
[23:34] <Piojoo> hey... is it normal that, using synaptic, and with a bandwidth of 1mB/s, it downloads at 15kB/s ? can someone help me please?
[23:34] <JoshJ> ganymede, np
[23:34] <Stu> ganymede.... aint that a planet or something ?
[23:34] <JoshJ> moon
[23:34] <robg_> tritium: not if you have encrypted the hard drive
[23:34] <Stu> ah
[23:34] <JoshJ> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganymede_(moon)
[23:34] <tritium> robg_: again, I was only referring to installation media
[23:34] <JoshJ> so, how do i go back to the old firefox address bar?
[23:35] <Stu> yeah ill just beleive you :P
[23:35] <JoshJ> lol Stu :p
[23:35] <Jack_Sparrow> CShadowRun can you connect hardwire .. do your updates.. my c640 and c610's worked after doing that
[23:35] <Slart> Piojoo: try selecting a mirror closer to you
[23:35] <CShadowRun> Jack_Sparrow kk, doing it.
[23:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Monica_2 I dont have any answers atm.. kinda busy with a couple of things
[23:35] <Stu> anyone know how to blacklist an update from synaptics... it keeps trying to download ubuntu-modules because I have installed custom ones and if it gets installed its gonna mess me about
[23:35] <darkstorm^> anyone an idea why 'update-alternatives' doesnt show me the installed icedtea-java7? i've installed plugin, jre and the gcjwebplugin :/
[23:36] <tritium> Monica_2: have you tried reinstalling gdm?
[23:36] <Monica_2> Jack_Sparrow, ok, thank you
[23:36] <Piojoo> Slart: what mirror? i'm talking about synaptic...
[23:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !pinning | Stu
[23:36] <JoshJ> Piojoo, the package mirrors
[23:36] <corto_> About GRUB : Not sure it help but the partitionning soft during the installation of Ubuntu made 'bad' partitions. I have had to partition the HD first then lauch the liveCD to install without problem...
[23:36] <JoshJ> synaptic is nothing more than a frontend which pulls stuff from a web server
[23:36] <Stu> ta
[23:36] <Flannel> J-a-k-e: We don't need you to reinstall GRUB just yet, since we can get to the grub menu from the 30.  But yes, to get it to GRUB from the 160, you'll need to reinstall GRUB on the primary's MBR.  We just need to edit the grub menu to get Ubuntu to boot.  Which... well, would be easier if we were in Ubuntu.  But we should be ok.  Go to the GRUB menu, and highlight one of the ubuntu lines, and hit 'e', we'll need to know the root line (something lik
[23:36] <Monica_2> tritium, how do i do that? srry for so many questions
[23:36] <Piojoo> how do i choose the mirrors?
[23:36] <Slart> Piojoo: system, administration, software sources, select a mirror closer to you
[23:36] <tritium> Monica_2: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gdm
[23:36] <JoshJ> Piojoo, so if you need a different mirror you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:36] <JoshJ> or do what Slart said
[23:37] <Monica_2> tritium, ok, trying that now
[23:37] <Slart> Piojoo: synaptic downloads stuff from a server somewhere.. that somewhere is either the main ubuntu server or a mirror
[23:37] <lopin> I need some help with VNC on a server.  I recently installed Xubuntu-Desktop in an attempt to have a basic gui, after the one I built didn't work quite as expected.  Anyway, when I vnc in, I don't see the panels...
[23:37] <xenos_> the display manager won't let me choose 1600x1200 its not an option. How do I get it to recognize that resolution?
[23:37] <Slart> !res | xenos_
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> tritium that is kinda what I was thinking when I had her install kubuntu desktop and it didnt get around the problem
[23:37] <tritium> Jack_Sparrow: is kubuntu using kdm, or gdm?
[23:38] <Piojoo> and how do i choose them? :S
[23:38] <Flannel> Monica_2: What color is your login screen?  orange/brownish? or blueish?
 the letter K... why this letter in Kutuntu ?
[23:38] <lopin> And, xdm isn't starting on start up.  I have to log in through the console, and then startx
[23:38] <tritium> corto_: to signify that it uses the KDE desktop
[23:39] <lopin> corto_: That's they're thing...
[23:39] <JoshJ> Piojoo, hang on
[23:39] <Flannel> lopin: xubuntu uses GDM by default
[23:39] <Monica_2> tritium, it says: invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action reload failed
[23:39] <tritium> Monica_2: that means your gdm configuration is bad
[23:39] <JoshJ> !mirrors
[23:39] <lopin> Flannel: I know.  I'm using xdm from when I put together the desktop applications myself.
[23:39] <Monica_2> tritium, should i try kdm?
[23:40] <alan_m> !torrents > alan_m
[23:40] <lopin> !.!
[23:40] <Piojoo> no, it's not that...
[23:40] <JoshJ> yeah was looking for the packages mirrors
[23:40] <tritium> Monica_2: no
[23:40] <Monica_2> tritium, ok, any ideas/ anyone?
[23:41] <J-a-k-e> Flannel: alright, do you want the boot line off the 30 or my 160, both load grub tho only my 30 can get into windows
[23:41] <tritium> Monica_2: I suspect the reinstall of gdm didn't overwrite your custom gdm configuration.  I'd delete /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom, and reinstall gdm again
[23:42] <Flannel> J-a-k-e: er... both load grub?  Do you have more than one Linux install on this computer?
[23:42] <Monica_2> ok, is that the command for the console?
[23:42] <Jack_Sparrow> tritium thanks for helping on that..
[23:42] <Piojoo> JoshJ: thanks! :D
[23:42] <JoshJ> no Monica_2 those are filenames
[23:42] <tritium> Jack_Sparrow: sure, we'll see how it goes
[23:42] <JoshJ> Monica_2, the command is going to be "sudo rm /etc/gdm/gdm.conf"
[23:42] <Flannel> Monica_2: sudo apt-get remove --purge gdm && sudo apt-get install gdm
[23:42] <JoshJ> (and the same for the other file)
[23:42] <JoshJ> or yeah, do what Flannel said
[23:42] <Piojoo> Slart: thanks to u too... =)
[23:42] <Flannel> JoshJ, tritium, shouldn't manually delete files under package management
[23:42] <JoshJ> true
[23:42] <Monica_2> ok
[23:42] <tritium> Flannel: we're reinstalling gdm to fix the broken config
[23:43] <JoshJ> tritium, right, hence the --purge
[23:43] <JoshJ> --purge makes apt-get remove also remove config files
[23:43] <Treeh416> Hey, does anyone here understand hexvalues?
[23:43] <Flannel> tritium: yes, purge it and reinstall, don't delete the files.  It causes dpkg to not like you
[23:43] <Slart> Treeh416: yes
[23:43] <tritium> Flannel: yes, good point
[23:43] <JoshJ> Treeh416, if you mean "can convert hex to decimal" sure
[23:43] <JoshJ> but well google can do that :p
[23:43] <corto_> I miss my Winamp... MP3 gui with Ubuntu are... sad. Is there any MP3 player with cool plug-in ?
[23:43] <JoshJ> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=0x16%20in%20decimal
[23:43] <Flannel> J-a-k-e: If they both load GRUB, does the menu you get with each look the same?
[23:43] <oc80z> corq-FL, XMMS
[23:44] <Treeh416> JoshJ, here one second, I need to show you something in reference
[23:44] <Treeh416> Slart, here one second, I need to show you something in reference
[23:44] <Slart> JoshJ: if people used google before asking here we'd have a lot less to do =)
[23:44] <JoshJ> Slart, lol , fair enough
[23:44] <tritium> Monica_2: that will also remove fast-user-switch-applet and gdm, if you remove --purge
[23:44] <Treeh416> Slart, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316381&page=2
[23:44] <harpreet_> i am having trouble when setting up wireless it gives  : harpreet@harpreet-laptop:~/madwifi-ng-r2756+ar5007$ sudo modprobe ath_pci
[23:44] <harpreet_> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 40: ignoring bad line starting with '“blacklist'
[23:44] <harpreet_> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 41: ignoring bad line starting with '“blacklist'
[23:44] <Treeh416> Slart,  I'm trying to get VMware in widescreen..but I don't understand the values i have to enter
[23:44] <tritium> Monica_2: uh, fast-user-switch-applet and ubuntu-desktop, that is
[23:44] <Treeh416> Slart,  trying to get 1920x1200
[23:44] <tritium> !paste | harpreet_
[23:44] <Treeh416> JoshJ,  look what I said to slart
[23:45] <JoshJ> right, i'm looking
[23:45] <Flannel> harpreet_: Looks like you've done some illformed appending.  Pastebin that file
[23:45] <harpreet_> tritium u have answer?
[23:45] <Monica_2> tritium, i already did it, was that a no no/
[23:45] <J-a-k-e> Flannel: yes the menu looks the same. winxp on my 160, and hardy 8.04 on my 30 it's just that i've tried installing grub to different drives. The 320 last time grub was working was the only drive i could load ubuntu off. thing is I used to use 7.10 and had none of these problems
[23:45] <tritium> harpreet_: I didn't read your channel spam
[23:45] <harpreet_> how do i do that flannel?
[23:45] <Flannel> harpreet_: Oh, actually, don't pastebin it, just open it up and remove the quotes from the beginning of the line (“)
[23:46] <harpreet_> spam? lol
[23:46] <Monica_2> ok, should gdm or kdm be the default display manager/
[23:46] <tritium> Monica_2: no, did it remove the applet and ubuntu-desktop?
[23:46] <Flannel> harpreet_: gksu "gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"
[23:46] <tritium> Monica_2: gdm
[23:46] <harpreet_> thanks Flannel let me do that
[23:46] <redwyrm> hi. I'm trying to install the DOM inspector for Firefox 3.0b5. It shows up as installed in Synaptic, but I don't see it in any menu in Firefox, nor is it listed as installed in the Add-Ins window.  I tried to install it via the Add-Ins window, but I got an error saying that it was incompatible. I found nothing about this error using Google. Please help! :(
[23:46] <Treeh416> JoshJ, do you understand the problem :S?
[23:46] <JoshJ> ah, it's not hex
[23:46] <JoshJ> it's ASCII
[23:47] <JoshJ> i think.
[23:47] <tritium> Monica_2: what step are you at?  You've purged gdm?  Have you reinstalled yet?
[23:47] <tritium> !enter | JoshJ
[23:47] <JoshJ> hex 31323830 does not lead to 1280...
[23:47] <Slart> Treeh416: I think those are ascii values for the characters.. ie '1' is 31, '2' is 32, etc etc..
[23:47] <JoshJ> yep, found it. hang on, what resolution did you want?
[23:47] <Monica_2> ok, tritium:just a sec
[23:47] <bnex10> hey how do i remove vt8?
[23:47] <JabberWalkie> so, i have alot of documents on my computer. Can any one recommend an app that will help me sort and view them?
[23:47] <bnex10> it's kinda annoying
[23:47] <CShadowRun> 31323830 decimal -> hex 1DDF6B6
[23:47] <Treeh416> Slart, Oh....how do I do that ?
[23:47] <tritium> Monica_2: it was a question
[23:47] <Treeh416> JoshJ, Slart said they're ascii characters :S
[23:48] <JoshJ> Treeh416, yeah, same conclusion i found
[23:48] <JoshJ> what resolution did you want?
[23:48] <effowe> i have tried manually configuring my eth0 connection and it will only work when i run dhclient, can anyone pm for a couple of minutes to resolve this?
[23:48] <Flannel> J-a-k-e: the reinstalling that you're doing is only reinstalling the bootloader portion (stage1), which sits on the MBR (yes, we're getting a little technical here), the stuff on the MBR boots GRUB which sits in your /boot partition (which, if you only have one partition for linux, is inside your / partition).  So, all three of these drives all (should) be trying to boot to the same /boot, which is why they're all identical.  We just need to fix yo
[23:48] <ben34> i have connected to a desktop by ssh, how can i open a program on the logged on users seesion
[23:48] <tritium> effowe: do you have it set "auto" in /etc/network/interfaces?
[23:48] <corto_> Is there a soft to convert a raster image to an ascii 'image' ?
[23:48] <Treeh416> JoshJ,  so i just need a decimal to asscii calculator?
[23:48] <Slart> Treeh416: you want 1900x1200 .. '1' is 31, '9' is 39, '0' is 30 ... well.. you can do the rest
[23:48] <effowe> tritium: yes i do
[23:48] <Flannel> corto_: check out libcaca or libaa
[23:48] <Treeh416> Slart, oh...just put a 3 in front of everything?
[23:48] <tritium> effowe: out of curiosity, why are you manually configuring it, rather than using network manager?
[23:49] <JoshJ> no
[23:49] <Slart> Treeh416: tadaa! =)
 ok thanx
[23:49] <Lalo2> Hello! I have a problem with my Hardy!
[23:49] <rbw> are there known issues with 8.04 (Hardy) and Azureus?
[23:49] <tritium> Monica_2: please tell me what step you're at.
[23:49] <Slart> Treeh416: and you've got the values for 'x' from the example
[23:49] <JoshJ> ah, 1920x1200... should be 31 39 32 30 78 31 32 30 30 00
[23:49] <rbw> my Azureus keeps locking the system.
[23:49] <effowe> tritium: i installed 8.04 server so i got dumped to a command line, during install it was hanging during apt configuration so i had to unplug my ethernet during install, which is why i have to manually configure it now
[23:49] <Treeh416> Slart, Okay, thanks a bunch ^.^
[23:49] <xodiak> looking for ATI video card help....
[23:49] <Lalo2> anyone could help me?
[23:50] <Slart> Treeh416: you're welcome.. JoshJ gave you the whole thing there.. no thinking required =)
[23:50] <JoshJ> Treeh416, i just gave you the values :p
[23:50] <CShadowRun> Jack_Sparrow i can't update, i'm using a livecd :p
[23:50] <tritium> effowe: ah, understood.  Have you run "man interfaces" to read up on how to configure /etc/network/interfaces?
[23:50] <willytell> hello everyone
[23:50] <Slart> !ask | Lalo2
[23:50] <Slart> !lastlog Lalo2
[23:50] <Treeh416> JoshJ,  thanks a bunch :D
[23:50] <Treeh416> Slart,  thanks guys
[23:50] <Treeh416> :D
[23:50] <Slart> bah.. sorry
[23:50] <effowe> tritium: yeah i have, hey i pmd you can we take it there for a couple?
[23:50] <CShadowRun> Can anyone please help me sort out my wireless for a few minutes in PM? I'm sure it's a simple thing.
[23:50] <alado2> can anyone recommend a video card that works 100% with ubuntu, im looking for something second hand, and _no_ gaming card
[23:50] <JoshJ> Treeh416, for future reference, if you're curious: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascii#ASCII_printable_characters
[23:50] <tritium> effowe: you must not have a registered nick.  I got no PM.
[23:50] <xodiak> Both Alien Arena and Tremulous play and look okay. But each have a black flicker thing going on every few seconds.
[23:51] <willytell> Lalo2, go ahead
[23:51] <effowe> tritium: ah, ok one second
[23:51] <Slart> alado2: the older ati cards are pretty well supported (NOT the newer ones).. I think most nvidia cards work pretty well
[23:51] <Lalo2> ok... Manytimes, when I click on a program that's  minimized, my session gets closed all of a sudden.. many many times... and I have to re enter in my session and loose everything...
[23:51] <CShadowRun> Can anyone help me? Ubuntu thinks my wireless is an ethernet...and it won't connect (But it appears to roam for networks fine...just not connect.)
[23:51] <alado2> Slart: i have an old ati card right now, and that doesnt work well
[23:52] <Treeh416> JoshJ, Ok, thanks a bunch
[23:52] <CShadowRun> haha, 1337 people in the channel right now. Leet :D
[23:52] <xodiak> alado2: I have an ATI radeon 9550 that is giving me problems on a couple of games. Desktop apps it looks / works okay.
[23:52] <Slart> alado2: ok.. then I'd go with nvidia..
[23:52] <alado2> is there a list somewhere with supported cards maybe?
[23:53] <JoshJ> alado2, probably is one on the wiki somewhere
[23:53] <CShadowRun> Can anyone please help me with my wireless? I'll give you cookies :O
[23:53] <tristanbob> CShadowRun, we can try
[23:53] <jc___> I know this is the wrong channel, but my kids computer has winXP anyone install SP3 yet? anything I should watch out for?
[23:53] <JoshJ> alado2, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[23:53] <CShadowRun> tristanbob cool, can i pm you? the channel is pretty busy :p
[23:54] <tristanbob> sure
[23:54] <SDr> jc___, yeah, you're in the wrong channel, see #windows
[23:54] <tritium> jc___: you're correct.  Wrong channel.
[23:54] <alado2> jc___: i did it on my other machine, nothing happened :)
[23:54] <Flannel> alado2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto has links to the MFC specific wiki pages, which have links to lists of supported cards (that is, supported for restricted drivers manager)
[23:54] <Lalo2> any help?
[23:54] <Lalo2> ﻿ok... Manytimes, when I click on a program that's  minimized, my session gets closed all of a sudden.. many many times... and I have to re enter in my session and loose everything...
[23:54] <Lalo2> anyone?
[23:55] <jc___> ok well I think I try the windows channel to see what they are saying about sp3
[23:55] <Monica_2> tritium:Selecting previously deselected package gdm. (reading database...165483 files and directories currently installed.) unpacking gdm (from .../gdm_2.20.6-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb)... setting up gdm (2.20.6-0ubuntu1)... adding group 'gdm' (GID 114)...DOne.  Warning: the home dir/var/lib/gdm you specified already exists.  Adding system user 'gdm' (UID 106)... Adding new user 'gdm' (UID 106) with group 'gdm'...  the home directory /var/lib/gdm' already exis
[23:55] <Monica_2> ts. Not  copying from '/etc/skel'.  adduse: warning; the home directory /var/lib/gdm does not belong to the user you are currently creating.  *reloading gnome display manger configuration...changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended.  invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action (reload) failed.
[23:55] <tritium> Monica_2: don't paste here, please
[23:56] <Monica_2> tritium: i cant paste here. it is iin the desktop. sorry :)
[23:56] <Monica_2> on the desktop
[23:56] <tritium> Monica_2: you just did ;)
[23:56] <tico> how do i activate grub? i just removed lilo
[23:56] <Monica_2> i am on a laptop reading from a desktop
[23:57] <Monica_2> :)
[23:57] <alado2> JoshJ: Flannel: thnx, that made my day
[23:57] <tritium> Monica_2: my point is not to paste such long text here.  Use pastebin.
[23:57] <Monica_2> oops, srry, i forgot about that
[23:57] <peternix> ubuntu is reporting my hard drive as 280 gigs or so when it is really 320
[23:57] <Flannel> tico: You'll either need the DesktopCD or the Alternate CD
[23:57] <JoshJ> peternix, you sure it's not the 1024/1000 thing?
[23:58] <peternix> It wouldn't be that big a difference
[23:58] <peternix> package says 320 gigs
[23:58] <JoshJ> once you get up to gigabytes it is
[23:58] <xq> tico: http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netos/article.php/3340051
[23:58] <tritium> Monica_2: since you removed gdm as Flannel suggested, you need to reinstall the two packages that got removed along with it (ubuntu-dekstop and fast-user-switch-applet)
[23:58] <anonymous__> yeah i think it owuld peternix
[23:58] <anonymous__> *would
[23:58] <JoshJ> because it's 1024*1024*1024 vs 1000*1000*1000
[23:58] <peternix> let me check gpartd
[23:58] <Flannel> tritium: the former should reinstall the latter.
[23:58] <Lalo2> so, nobody knows anything? about my session closing?
[23:58] <JoshJ> 1 024 * 1 024 * 1 024 = 1 073 741 824
[23:58] <tritium> Flannel: it does not appear to be so
[23:58] <peternix> Alright, gparted says "298.08 gigs" on /dev/sda
[23:58] <Monica_2> tritium, thank you for your patience and help....what would the code be/
[23:58] <peternix> But my package says 320 gigs
[23:58] <Slart> peternix: you're sure it isn't 298?
[23:59] <xq> tico: You can go to Page 2, really. Also just make sure it's installed using Synaptic -- it may actually just ask for options after install? Have you installed it via Synaptic or sudo apt-get install grub
[23:59] <peternix> Slart: I am just going by the sticker on the package I bought
[23:59] <tritium> Monica_2: it's not code, but can you verify whether or not they were reinstalled along with gdm by looking at the screen output?
[23:59] <JoshJ> peternix, that's about perfect
[23:59] <theom3ga> hi there
[23:59] <JoshJ> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=1000000000+%2F+(1024*1024*1024)+*+320&btnG=Search
[23:59] <Slart> peternix: that's just the hard drive manufacturers counting 1 Gbyte = 1 000 000 000 bytes.. ubuntu counts it in powers of two instead
[23:59] <Flannel> tritium: f-u-s-a is a dep of ubuntu-desktop, so if its not, there are other issues.
[23:59] <tico> xq: i did it through apt-get
[23:59] <Rixon-> maybe the partition is 298, and you still have 32gigs unpartitioned
[23:59] <Monica_2> tritium, not now, actually, it wont let me
[23:59] <theom3ga> the "sitar" command isn't available at ubuntu, is it? I've tried searching for it but I got nothing
[23:59] <tritium> Flannel: but not of gdm
[23:59] <peternix> Slart: think I can get a refund?