| sebner | gn8 folks | 00:07 |
|---|---|---|
| Amaranth | wow, it is apparently not possible to get those Peace cigarettes outside of Japan | 00:26 |
| Amaranth | oh, persia isn't even here :P | 00:27 |
| Laney | nxvl: Nice photos! | 00:36 |
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| nxvl | Laney: thnx | 01:59 |
| emgent | hey nxvl :) | 02:05 |
| * ScottK is home. | 02:06 | |
| emgent | heya ScottK :) | 02:06 |
| ScottK | Heya emgent. | 02:06 |
| pwnguin | anyone know the key combo to make a window more opaque in compiz? | 02:10 |
| vorian | hello! | 02:32 |
| vorian | I'm trying POD > man, and I keep getting manpage-has-bad-whatis-entry. | 02:32 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 02:33 |
| bddebian | What-is should be in the form executable \- short description | 02:33 |
| vorian | hmm | 02:34 |
| vorian | retry :) | 02:39 |
| vorian | thanks | 02:39 |
| RAOF | Hm. Given a netboot usb stick, is it possible to get it to grab intrepid rather than hardy? | 02:49 |
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| madrazr | Hi all, I want an help regarding debian source package management. | 04:04 |
| madrazr | I did an apt-get source package and made few changes to the package | 04:04 |
| madrazr | and also built the binary .debs using dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc | 04:05 |
| madrazr | some 3 or 4 weeks back. | 04:05 |
| madrazr | then I forgot to make the changlelog entries, but now I want to make those entries but unfortunately I dont remember where all the changes I made | 04:06 |
| madrazr | I also want to create patches of these changes now | 04:06 |
| madrazr | I am not getting how to do this, can some help? | 04:06 |
| madrazr | please | 04:07 |
| RAOF | madrazr: You're probably looking for the debdiff command; 'debdiff oldpackage.dsc newpackage.dsc' will give you a diff containing all the changes you made. | 04:07 |
| madrazr | RAOF: newpackage.dsc will be created? | 04:07 |
| madrazr | because I dont think created source debian packages | 04:08 |
| RAOF | madrazr: No; newpackage.dsc is the dsc file for your changed package. | 04:08 |
| madrazr | RAOF: ok wait will check out | 04:08 |
| madrazr | RAOF: there are no 2 .dsc files | 04:14 |
| RAOF | madrazr: You still have your modified source package, right? You can debuild -S to get an updated .dsc for the modified package, and grab the original, Ubuntu source with apt-get source. | 04:15 |
| madrazr | ok will try now | 04:16 |
| madrazr | RAOF: aren't there any alternatives? | 04:17 |
| madrazr | I just want the patch file nothing else | 04:17 |
| madrazr | meaning diff files | 04:17 |
| RAOF | It depends on what you've actually done; there almost certainly are alternatives. | 04:17 |
| RAOF | But debdiff will just be easier, and will get you all the changes you made. | 04:18 |
| madrazr | I will explain, I did apt-get source parted | 04:18 |
| madrazr | made some 3-4 changes | 04:18 |
| madrazr | I dont remember all the 4, I only remember 2 | 04:19 |
| madrazr | then I created .deb files | 04:19 |
| madrazr | only binaries | 04:19 |
| madrazr | now I want the diff files | 04:19 |
| madrazr | of what all changes I created | 04:20 |
| RAOF | Debdiff will do that for you. | 04:20 |
| RAOF | Oh. Do you still have your source changes around? | 04:20 |
| madrazr | yes | 04:21 |
| RAOF | Then debdiff. (If you didn't, what you ask would be impossible). | 04:21 |
| RAOF | You'll need a copy of the unmodified source (apt-get source will provide this) and of your changed source (which you have). Debdiff then basically automates the process of finding the diff. | 04:22 |
| madrazr | say now I will have 2 directories partedMod with my modified source and parted with original source | 04:23 |
| madrazr | by just running debdiff partedMod/parted.dsc parted/parted.dsc | 04:23 |
| madrazr | will I get the diff files? | 04:23 |
| RAOF | Yes; assuming partedMod/parted.dsc has been generated from your modified source package. | 04:24 |
| madrazr | I am not able to generate that | 04:24 |
| RAOF | Why not? | 04:24 |
| madrazr | because of some problem here | 04:24 |
| madrazr | debuild is not getting installed | 04:25 |
| madrazr | now | 04:25 |
| madrazr | infact some problem with synaptic | 04:25 |
| madrazr | I will try sometime later | 04:25 |
| RAOF | You can manually diff -Nur oldsourcedir newsourcedir if you want. That should also get you a diff. | 04:25 |
| madrazr | oh ok sooper I will try this then | 04:26 |
| artfwo | Hello! I'm having a problem with uscan reporting a newer version: current is 3.2 and it thinks 3.2RC6 is new. Anyone knows how to fix this? Thanks. | 06:22 |
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| Hobbsee | siretart: +25 @ your mail! | 09:11 |
| siretart | Hobbsee: I sent two mails | 09:51 |
| Hobbsee | siretart: er, the one about the bugsquad missing the point. | 09:52 |
| siretart | aah, right | 09:52 |
| siretart | TBH, I don't see the point in the bugsquad having a seperate mailing list. I think they should discuss on ubuntu-motu or even ubuntu-devel | 09:52 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, true | 09:54 |
| andrew_sayers | Beyond OSI approval, does Ubuntu have any standard guidance about licensing? For example, could using the BSDL prompt a religious debate? | 09:59 |
| geser | andrew_sayers: if you mean the BSD license, it's common enough to got included in /usr/share/common-licenses, so feel free to use it | 10:04 |
| andrew_sayers | geser: ok thanks, I'll get back to pondering then :) | 10:05 |
| stephanecharette | noob here. Question: is this the right place to ask how/when certain packages are updated? | 10:11 |
| stephanecharette | I'm the release manager for GRAMPS (on SourceForge) | 10:11 |
| stephanecharette | Ubuntu 8.04 still lists GRAMPS at version 2.2, though we're now at version 3.0.1 | 10:12 |
| stephanecharette | I'm curious to know how the process works to get one of our newer versions listed | 10:12 |
| stephanecharette | same questions, but applied to Graphviz | 10:13 |
| stephanecharette | latest stable release is 2.18, but Ubuntu 8.04 lists Graphviz v2.16 | 10:14 |
| stephanecharette | hello? | 10:15 |
| stephanecharette | Anyone actually here? | 10:20 |
| RAOF | Yes? | 10:20 |
| stephanecharette | you missed my question just above your login | 10:20 |
| stephanecharette | here it is: | 10:20 |
| RAOF | The answer would be: hardy has been released, and will not be recieving new versions*. | 10:21 |
| stephanecharette | ok | 10:21 |
| stephanecharette | I see | 10:21 |
| RAOF | * Some exceptions being: (very unlikely) a bugfix release released as a Stable Release Upgrade. | 10:21 |
| stephanecharette | so new versions of packages have to wait until 8.10? | 10:21 |
| RAOF | * A backport from Intrepid. This requires the new version be *in* Intrepid. | 10:21 |
| stephanecharette | how do we make certain this time our new version is in Intrepid, since it didn't seem to have been picked up in 8.04? | 10:22 |
| ruiboon | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/gramps shows that 3.0.1-1 has been published in Intrepid | 10:23 |
| stephanecharette | thanks -- I see | 10:24 |
| stephanecharette | but https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/graphviz seems to indicate it is still 2.16 | 10:24 |
| stephanecharette | how do we get the 2.18 into Intrepid? | 10:25 |
| geser | usually new version come into intrepid from Debian unstable | 10:27 |
| geser | but in case of graphviz Ubuntu has some additional changes which needs to be merged | 10:27 |
| geser | I expect to see graphviz merged in the next few weeks as currently nearly every developer works on merges | 10:28 |
| stephanecharette | thank you for the answers | 10:28 |
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| === ubott2 is now known as ubottu | ||
| * StevenK appears. | 11:22 | |
| RAOF | Wooo! | 11:22 |
| StevenK | (In Singapore) | 11:22 |
| RAOF | Angels descend | 11:22 |
| * StevenK waves to RAOF | 11:22 | |
| RAOF | Howdie. | 11:22 |
| RAOF | So you're not interested in one or two uploads to debian then :) | 11:23 |
| StevenK | Wanna be in Sydney now. | 11:23 |
| * persia cheers the infinite efficiency of packet-based networks as applied to air travel | 11:23 | |
| StevenK | RAOF: Not really. :-) Beg me tomorrow? | 11:23 |
| RAOF | Anyone else you know on your flights? | 11:23 |
| StevenK | RAOF: TheMuso is sitting next to me. | 11:23 |
| StevenK | RAOF: lifeless is the flight too, apparently. | 11:24 |
| StevenK | is on, even | 11:24 |
| RAOF | And jml? | 11:24 |
| StevenK | Not sure about jml. | 11:24 |
| StevenK | persia: Where are you hiding? | 11:24 |
| persia | StevenK: I've been home for about 4 hours. | 11:25 |
| StevenK | persia: Lucky | 11:25 |
| persia | StevenK: No. Just northerly | 11:25 |
| StevenK | Heh | 11:25 |
| RAOF | Air travel sucks. We should tunnel through the earth. | 11:25 |
| StevenK | Haha | 11:25 |
| RAOF | Let gravity do the work for us! | 11:25 |
| persia | RAOF: it:s only 43 minutes point-to-point that way, but a little warm. | 11:25 |
| RAOF | I'm sure you could use an evacuated tube. | 11:26 |
| RAOF | I mean, we have science, right? | 11:26 |
| RAOF | It should work for us! | 11:26 |
| StevenK | I have another seven-eight hour flight. :-( | 11:26 |
| persia | RAOF: Sure. It's still warm. If you use an air-filled tube, it's slow, but even evacuated, there's still friction. We need better maglev first. | 11:26 |
| persia | On the other hand, 43 minutes PRA->SYD would make StevenK have to travel more often. | 11:27 |
| RAOF | Why friction? We just drill a _perfectly_ straight hole, right through the centre :) | 11:27 |
| RAOF | And hope that our scheduling is good enough to not cause collisions. | 11:27 |
| persia | RAOF: That limits your destinations, and then you get pressure heat from the earth. I believe the best path is cosecant, but I haven't looked at the math for those tunnels in years. | 11:28 |
| RAOF | Actually, you're almost certainly right. | 11:28 |
| persia | I also seem to remember there being some limitation with nearness. I think you have to pass over more than about 15 degrees of curvature for it to make sense. It may be that one has to travel to a different continent to reach short-hop destinations, with a transfer. | 11:29 |
| persia | Errr. "pass under" | 11:30 |
| RAOF | But at 43 minutes a pop, that's still cost-efficient. | 11:30 |
| StevenK | Air travel can still be used for short-hop destinations. | 11:30 |
| persia | Well, time-efficient. I don't really want to consider the municipal-works budget. | 11:30 |
| StevenK | Say, an hour from Sydney to Frankfurt, and then an hour from Frankfurt to Prague. Works for me. | 11:31 |
| persia | StevenK: I guess. Air-travel is about 1 hour per 10 degrees of curvature, right? | 11:31 |
| persia | (assuming no transfer) | 11:31 |
| persia | Also, technically, Sydney->Frankfurt might be hard. I think more than about 60 degrees gets under the mantle (but I haven't looked at the math in years) | 11:32 |
| StevenK | Which means Sydney -> Singapore first? | 11:32 |
| persia | Without looking at a globe, something like that. Sydney -> Singapore (under) for an hour, Singapore -> Frankfurt (under) for an hour, Frankfurt->Prague (over) for an hour. | 11:33 |
| StevenK | I daresay I don't want to know how much that would cost to build. | 11:34 |
| persia | Yep :) | 11:35 |
| persia | I suspect that if anyone does it, the first tunnel will be Eastern North America -> Western Europe, which doesn't really help the current use case, but might give an idea of cost. | 11:36 |
| persia | Might need an intermediate though, as I think that's about 90 degrees. | 11:36 |
| Iulian | Hey | 11:38 |
| * StevenK tries to beat his spam down | 11:38 | |
| jdavies | hey Iulian | 11:39 |
| Iulian | Hi jdavies | 11:39 |
| pochu | hi all! | 11:40 |
| Iulian | Heya pochu | 11:40 |
| pochu | yo Iulian | 11:41 |
| jdavies | this is insane.. | 11:41 |
| txwikinger | hi pochu | 11:41 |
| i4x | who called me? [i]nsane4oenix | 11:41 |
| pochu | hey txwikinger | 11:42 |
| tseliot | ¡hola pochu! | 11:48 |
| pochu | ciao tseliot :-) | 11:53 |
| * StevenK waits for boarding. | 12:14 | |
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| * Amaranth looks around | 12:22 | |
| soren | StevenK: Where? | 12:23 |
| StevenK | soren: Singapore | 12:24 |
| StevenK | soren: Another seven-eight hours, and I'll actually be in the right city | 12:24 |
| soren | StevenK: Wow, that long? | 12:24 |
| soren | StevenK: Are/were you flying Singapore Airlines? | 12:25 |
| Hobbsee | soren: au is *far* away. | 12:26 |
| Amaranth | Hobbsee: au should move closer | 12:30 |
| soren | :) | 12:31 |
| Hobbsee | Amaranth: i wish! | 12:31 |
| Amaranth | even persia gets home faster | 12:31 |
| Amaranth | heck, even i made it home faster | 12:31 |
| persia | Amaranth: I'm equidistant from everywhere though. Travel to/from Australia has an extra hop near here (well, near enough). | 12:32 |
| Amaranth | hehe | 12:32 |
| Amaranth | btw, no one exports those cigarettes :( | 12:33 |
| Amaranth | persia: so you have to send me a crate or something ;) | 12:33 |
| * persia pointedly fails to start an import/export business in controlled substances :P | 12:35 | |
| yannick | Hi, I've an issue with pbuilder: "pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: libx264-dev which is a virtual package." Can someone help me please? | 12:58 |
| persia | yannick: That typically means that you'll need to specify the one you want, of the form: libfoo5-dev | libfoo-dev. | 12:58 |
| yannick | persia, I don't see which one to pick up. There is no more devel for x264... | 12:59 |
| persia | yannick: In this specific case, I wonder which architecture you are using. From what I can tell, that package is not virtual for i386 or amd64, and doesn't even exist for anything else. | 13:00 |
| persia | Does your pbuilder have multiverse enabled? | 13:00 |
| yannick | COMPONENTS="main restricted universe multiverse" and my arch is amd64. And i do not see it as virtual too. | 13:01 |
| persia | Hmmm. No idea then. You might try with a local build (expecting a failure for missing dependencies) or sbuild to see if the issue is with pbuilder-satisfydepends or with your package. | 13:04 |
| yannick | ok, I'll try sbuild... | 13:05 |
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| emgent | heya | 13:27 |
| sebner | emgent: huhu | 13:30 |
| * emgent hugs sebner | 13:30 | |
| * sebner hugs emgent back =) | 13:30 | |
| emgent | hahah | 13:30 |
| sebner | emgent: I think they ignore our questions :P | 13:32 |
| === [PUPPETS]Gonzo is now known as ^Gonzo^ | ||
| emgent | sebner: nah false. | 13:35 |
| emgent | sebner: we should wait. | 13:35 |
| sebner | emgent: bah :P | 13:37 |
| emgent | sebner: remember, we are a big family. | 13:38 |
| emgent | :) | 13:38 |
| sebner | emgent: partyyyyyyyyy!!!!! =) | 13:39 |
| emgent | gh | 13:39 |
| emgent | heya devfil :) | 14:06 |
| devfil | hi emgent! how are you? | 14:06 |
| emgent | all good :P | 14:07 |
| emgent | devfil: http://en.emanuele-gentili.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/img_2655.jpg | 14:07 |
| devfil | emgent: did you have fun in uds intrepid? | 14:08 |
| devfil | emgent: lol | 14:08 |
| emgent | sure, UDS rocks! | 14:09 |
| devfil | I'm happy for you, but stop smoking! | 14:09 |
| emgent | hahaha, nah | 14:11 |
| devfil | emgent: stop smoking and became motu! | 14:15 |
| devfil | s/became/become | 14:15 |
| emgent | uhm.. launchpad seems slow today.. | 14:20 |
| openexpo | moins (\sh here) | 15:14 |
| Laney | lo | 15:20 |
| porthose | how many times will intrepid be synced with debian before the debian import freeze? :) Once, twice? | 15:42 |
| pochu | many | 15:43 |
| emgent | heya pochu :) | 15:43 |
| pochu | emgent! :) | 15:43 |
| porthose | pochu: thx :) | 15:44 |
| devfil | hi pochu | 15:44 |
| pochu | hey hey devfil | 15:44 |
| geser | porthose: in theory it should happen more than once a week till DIF | 15:46 |
| devfil | pochu: I would to ask you about a wxwidgets2.8 bug | 15:48 |
| pochu | devfil: yup, what was it? | 15:49 |
| devfil | pochu: bug #196834. I think this isn't a bug. usr/share/doc/wx2.8-examples/examples/unpack_examples.sh if called to do the work. Maybe I should ask if you want unpack examples or no (.postinst file) | 15:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 196834 in wxwidgets2.8 "wxPython demo is not installing properly" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196834 | 15:50 |
| porthose | geser: cool thx :) then the new upstream release of my package just uploaded to debian will be imported soon (that make me soooo happy) | 15:54 |
| pochu | porthose: if there's no Ubuntu specific changes, yes | 15:57 |
| pochu | devfil: no, I don't think unpack_examples.sh should be called at postinst | 15:58 |
| pochu | devfil: you can call it in debian/rules after build, if you want | 15:59 |
| pochu | in the install target, I'd say | 15:59 |
| devfil | pochu: I think unpacking examples should be at users choice | 15:59 |
| devfil | in postinst I can ask if want to unpack or not and where script will unpack | 16:00 |
| pochu | so what would you do, asking a debconf question? | 16:00 |
| pochu | that's so weird... | 16:00 |
| pochu | are the examples too big? | 16:00 |
| devfil | pochu: I think 10 mb | 16:01 |
| devfil | but I'm not sure | 16:01 |
| devfil | pochu: however not debconf, a simply script. wxwidgets2.8 source is so big, if I will add debconf... | 16:02 |
| pochu | if you are going to ask a question, use debconf | 16:04 |
| pochu | but better not to add it | 16:04 |
| pochu | where are the examples, in the -doc package? | 16:04 |
| devfil | pochu: examples package | 16:04 |
| pochu | Maybe add a README saying how to unpack it | 16:05 |
| devfil | pochu: I think nobody will read it | 16:05 |
| pochu | I hate debconf questions, so I won't sponsor that :P | 16:07 |
| pochu | if you can think of a different solution... | 16:07 |
| devfil | pochu: I can try with only bash script to ask, I think this is better solution because I don't need to use debconf support | 16:09 |
| pochu | if you use that, then it's not translatable | 16:09 |
| devfil | Maybe a simple: Do you want to unpack examples [y]? is the best think | 16:09 |
| pochu | and it won't work with packagekit (if we ever have that in the archive) | 16:09 |
| devfil | pochu: it is only a phrase and who developer must know english I think | 16:13 |
| pochu | I think if you are going to ask a question, it should be with debconf and priority low | 16:13 |
| devfil | pochu: 1.9 mb (I've readed 10.9 -_-') | 16:25 |
| devfil | pochu: however alredy exists a README for unpack_examples | 16:25 |
| devfil | pochu: Some of the files have been compressed in accordance with Debian policy | 16:25 |
| devfil | regarding documentatio | 16:25 |
| devfil | n | 16:25 |
| devfil | pochu: to unpack them I can use dh_extrac... (I don't remember the exactly name of the tag) | 16:31 |
| Laney | devfil: When do they get compressed? In the orig.tar.gz? | 16:33 |
| devfil | Lanely: nono, in debian/rules | 16:33 |
| Laney | Then there's no point compressing and uncompressing | 16:33 |
| Laney | If it's dh_compress you can pass -X to exclude some files | 16:34 |
| devfil | Laney: I don't need to exclude files, just unpack them in the same dir | 16:35 |
| devfil | done, now it's time to build it | 16:40 |
| yannick | persia, solved: pbuilder was not using multiverse. I still don't know why it doesn't take my config file in account, but adding universe at the command line is working :) thx for your help. | 17:03 |
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| ryanakca | Is it possible to merge something from Debian NEW? | 17:33 |
| azeem | I don't think so | 17:35 |
| geser | ryanakca: the first problem is Debian NEW isn't public | 17:43 |
| * jdavies WTHs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14564/ | 17:46 | |
| geser | bind mount? | 17:46 |
| jdavies | I just used the makechroot script here (http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/scripts/) to make a hardy chroot and I got that | 17:47 |
| geser | yes, bind mounts | 17:48 |
| jdavies | found the problem | 17:48 |
| geser | umount /home, /tmp, /proc/ and /sys from the chroot | 17:49 |
| geser | before removing it | 17:49 |
| jdavies | but too late.. | 17:49 |
| jdavies | geser: ah, cheers, that solved it | 17:50 |
| * slytherin wonders how hard it is to give command 'sudo pbuilder create' | 17:50 | |
| jdavies | geser: hmm, should I take out the bind mount parts of the script for next time? | 17:55 |
| slytherin | jdavies: bindmounts mounts the directories you specify inside the chroot. For example I have iso image mounted locally which I can use as repository inside chroot. | 18:00 |
| jdavies | slytherin: I would like a clean chroot. Nothing in but the base stuff installed | 18:01 |
| slytherin | jdavies: so you don't want bindmount. | 18:03 |
| jdavies | OK, *removes* | 18:04 |
| leleobhz | someone can tellme what can i do when a program are provided as tar.gz and are not in format program-version.tar.gz (and the uncompressed file too) | 18:09 |
| leleobhz | mind note: in packaging | 18:09 |
| geser | jdavies: you might need things like /proc or /sys also inside a clean chroot | 18:10 |
| leleobhz | (and the program uses jam as constructor) | 18:10 |
| jdavies | geser: hm, true | 18:10 |
| geser | jdavies: and if you want to test some GUI apps from the chroot then /home and /tmp are useful too | 18:11 |
| slytherin | leleobhz: what program is that? | 18:14 |
| leleobhz | slytherin: handbrake.fr | 18:15 |
| leleobhz | slytherin: i have another problem too... it "Jamfile" downloads all dependencies again | 18:16 |
| slytherin | leleobhz: I think handbrake is already packaged, I might be wrong, Make sure you check revu | 18:16 |
| leleobhz | slytherin: really? | 18:16 |
| leleobhz | slytherin: revu? | 18:16 |
| Laney | leleobhz: http://revu.tauware.de | 18:17 |
| Laney | 'tis already being worked on by someone | 18:18 |
| leleobhz | Laney: hmm nice | 18:18 |
| leleobhz | Laney: and how can i help the package creation on revu? | 18:19 |
| Laney | leleobhz: Well one person usually takes care of it, but you can mail the packager and see if he would like your help | 18:20 |
| slytherin | leleobhz: revu is used for review of packages. A package needs to be advocated by 2 MOTUs before it gets accepted. You will need dput to upload top revu and your publick key will need to be in revu keyring | 18:21 |
| leleobhz | slytherin: well, i have the conduct code signed on launchpad and all my keys available | 18:22 |
| leleobhz | and now joined to revu uploaders user group | 18:23 |
| slytherin | leleobhz: join the revu-uploaders team and ask here for keyring to be synced | 18:23 |
| RainCT | syncing... | 18:23 |
| RainCT | ;) | 18:23 |
| leleobhz | slytherin: suposing my package get accepted, ill get their manteiner on ubuntu? | 18:24 |
| leleobhz | s/get their/be the/g | 18:24 |
| RainCT | leleobhz: not "officially" like in Debian, but yes | 18:25 |
| leleobhz | RainCT: well, i dont care to much this... | 18:25 |
| leleobhz | debian is too "dummy"cratic | 18:26 |
| leleobhz | RainCT: im care with ubuntu status | 18:26 |
| * leleobhz very interested because i mantain some packages but outside ubuntu... so may be a chance to get they in | 18:27 | |
| leleobhz | question: debian linda exists on ubuntu? | 18:42 |
| Laney | leleobhz: linda doesn't exist any more | 18:42 |
| leleobhz | Laney: so still the process to use only lintian? | 18:43 |
| Laney | leleobhz: Yeah | 18:43 |
| Laney | (AFAIK, IANAMOTU ;) | 18:43 |
| leleobhz | ? | 18:43 |
| Laney | I'm not a MOTU | 18:45 |
| Laney | But I gather that lintian is all that's used | 18:45 |
| leleobhz | oh... | 18:45 |
| leleobhz | ok | 18:45 |
| slytherin | Right. lintian is the only tool available. The development of linda has stopped totally. | 18:46 |
| ryanakca | geser: ok, well, if I have a dsc of what was uploaded to Debian NEW? (I merged some Kubuntu fixes into Debian, and now I'm looking to merge those changes back into Kubuntu) | 18:46 |
| leleobhz | talking about linda.... someone know why this error: | 18:47 |
| leleobhz | leleobhz@zorg:~/TRABALHO/DEVELOPMENT/COMPILACOES/UBUNTU/pacotes/praat-hardy$ lintian praat_5.0.23-1_i386.changes | 18:47 |
| leleobhz | E: praat_5.0.23-1_i386.changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file hardy | 18:47 |
| leleobhz | E: praat_5.0.23-1.tar.gz does not exist, exiting | 18:47 |
| Laney | leleobhz: Give the -i option to lintian to get more information | 18:47 |
| leleobhz | N: You've specified an unknown target distribution for your upload in the | 18:48 |
| leleobhz | N: debian/changelog file. | 18:48 |
| geser | ryanakca: technically it would then be a sync from somewhere else but if it doesn't hurry, I'd wait till it's in Debian unstable | 18:48 |
| leleobhz | Laney: but im using hardy and cowbuilder | 18:48 |
| slytherin | leleobhz: 1st error because you are not using lintian from hardy-backports. Also make sure you have installed debootstrap from hardy-backports. | 18:49 |
| ryanakca | geser: nah, there are still some Kubuntu specific changes / configuration options to be merged, but ok. I do wish their archive maintainers would get through their list... some of them are 1 month old or more | 18:51 |
| leleobhz | slytherin: debootstrap isnt installed | 18:51 |
| slytherin | leleobhz: 2nd error because either you don't have a .orig.gz file or the directory name is of the form softwarename-upstream_version-debian_revision instead of just softwarename-upstream_version | 18:51 |
| leleobhz | slytherin: .orig exists | 18:52 |
| slytherin | geser: How can I add copyright symbol to debian/copyright file? | 18:52 |
| leleobhz | the original tar.gz isnt available because the original source is a .zip | 18:52 |
| leleobhz | so i need to uncompress it and recompres in debian formal | 18:52 |
| leleobhz | t | 18:52 |
| * leleobhz have a script to do this | 18:52 | |
| sharms | if I want to install debugging symbols for a program in hardy, do I still just add pitti's repository or is there a better method | 18:53 |
| slytherin | sharms: see if there is already a -dbg package in repository? | 18:53 |
| leleobhz | slytherin: ii lintian 1.23.48~hardy1 Debian package checker | 18:53 |
| sharms | slytherin - I am looking for w3m, don't see it | 18:54 |
| slytherin | sharms: then use pitti's repository | 18:54 |
| sharms | deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebs hardy main universe -- Apt gets a 301 moved permanently | 18:54 |
| sharms | ah nvm its down ddebs.ubuntu.com | 18:56 |
| geser | slytherin: Unicode, U+00A9 © | 19:13 |
| slytherin | geser: How do I write that in vim? And is it necessary to have 'copyright' or 'registered' symbols? | 19:14 |
| Laney | slytherin: ctrl-shift-u + type 00a9 | 19:16 |
| slytherin | Laney: thanks | 19:16 |
| geser | slytherin: iirc the copyright symbol is important | 19:16 |
| geser | at least in the U.S. copyright law if I remember some discussions correctly | 19:17 |
| slytherin | Laney: Not working :-( | 19:17 |
| Laney | slytherin: Really? What happens? | 19:17 |
| slytherin | Laney: Nothing, it just adds blank space | 19:18 |
| Laney | You get the underlined 'u' and can type '00a9'? | 19:18 |
| Laney | Then hit space after that | 19:18 |
| slytherin | Laney: I got underlines u, I typed 00a9 but hit enter | 19:20 |
| slytherin | Laney: Done, thanks. :-) | 19:20 |
| Laney | slytherin: That should work too, weird. Maybe it's your font? | 19:20 |
| Laney | slytherin: Ah :) | 19:20 |
| slytherin | Laney: Space works, enter doesn't. What does it have to do with font? | 19:21 |
| Laney | slytherin: No, nothing. If it wasn't coming up at all then it might be your font. | 19:23 |
| Laney | slytherin: But enter and space both work for me, *shrug* | 19:23 |
| slytherin | geser: Please let me know if this debian/copyright is clear enough - http://paste.ubuntu.com/14586/ I will be back in 10-15 minutes. | 19:27 |
| geser | slytherin: I add unicode chars usually with: when in Insert mode: ctrl+v u00a9 and get directly a copyright symbol | 19:27 |
| geser | slytherin: the mentioning of the licences is good, but I remember seeing copyright for the W3C from some other years too (check with "rgrep Copyright ." in the source dir) | 19:31 |
| slytherin | geser: I saw copyright mentioned as 1994-2002. Should I make it that way? | 19:35 |
| geser | slytherin: yes | 19:39 |
| slytherin | geser: Ok. Any other changes? | 19:39 |
| geser | slytherin: no | 19:52 |
| slytherin | geser: Done. Uploaded. Thanks for guidance. :-) | 19:55 |
| slytherin | geser: Going to bed. See you later. | 19:57 |
| emgent | geser: hey | 20:11 |
| geser | emgent: Hi | 20:14 |
| emgent | sebner: fix your internet connection | 20:16 |
| sebner | emgent: If I would know how -.- | 20:17 |
| emgent | sebner: try with "halt" :) | 20:23 |
| sebner | emgent: was he already online? ^^ | 21:17 |
| emgent | ye | 21:17 |
| sebner | emgent: uhh, where can I find him? | 21:17 |
| emgent | #canonical-sysadmin | 21:18 |
| sebner | ember: but he is afk :\ | 21:18 |
| emgent | i know. | 21:19 |
| sebner | since 77 hours xD | 21:19 |
| norsetto | howdy all (sebner included) | 21:44 |
| geser | Hi norsetto | 21:44 |
| sebner | huhu norsetto. Thanks for that :D | 21:44 |
| norsetto | hi geser, just seen bug 234538 | 21:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 234538 in findlib "[intrepid] Rebuild for ocaml 3.10.1 -> 3.10.2 transition" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/234538 | 21:45 |
| emgent | hahaha | 21:45 |
| sebner | emgent: hmm? | 21:45 |
| norsetto | geser: there is a bunch of stuff in bug 234581 which also deals with this transition, for the time being they are all waiting for u-m-s to sponsor your bug ... | 21:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 234581 in ulex "Cduce Depends On Non-Existant Package `ocaml-nox-3.10.0`" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/234581 | 21:46 |
| geser | norsetto: I've uploaded those OCaml rebuild yesterday which don't need ocaml-findlib | 21:47 |
| geser | I'll look at the other ones once findlib got rebuild | 21:48 |
| norsetto | geser: ok, if you may want to cover also those of bug 234581 please mark them invalid or reassign them to you. There is also a ftbfs which I'm investigating right now | 21:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 234581 in ulex "Cduce Depends On Non-Existant Package `ocaml-nox-3.10.0`" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/234581 | 21:49 |
| norsetto | geser: there is something funny going on with the debian archive, seems like packages.gz are not being regenerated? | 21:51 |
| geser | norsetto: if you mean the ftbfs from bug #234846, that's normal during a transition if not all packages are rebuild in the right order | 21:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 234846 in ocamlnet "ocamlnet (2.2.9-2) FTBFS" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/234846 | 21:53 |
| geser | see also the current perl 5.10 transition | 21:53 |
| norsetto | geser: I have all packages built locally, it really seems a problem with rpclocal.c | 21:54 |
| geser | ah | 21:54 |
| geser | norsetto: what problem do you have with the debian archive? ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz was last modified today | 21:57 |
| norsetto | geser: I see several packages are not reported as updated, and they are not autosynced | 21:57 |
| geser | is the autosync actually a cronjob? | 21:58 |
| norsetto | geser: I thought it was just a problem with packages.debian.org, but then why are we not autosyncing? Some packages are really old | 21:59 |
| geser | is the autosync already on? | 22:02 |
| geser | I didn't have to wait for a build half a week till now | 22:02 |
| norsetto | geser: AFAIK we are autosyncing full speed until DIF, don't know how frequently though | 22:03 |
| geser | for hardy the buildds were so queue during the first weeks with building autosynced packages that you needed to wait half a week for a build of a package you uploaded | 22:05 |
| norsetto | geser: that could be it then, and then its just a problem with packages.debian.org, makes sense | 22:07 |
| ajmitch | hi | 22:17 |
| * StevenK waves, finally back in the right country. | 22:18 | |
| StevenK | (And home, thank $DEITY) | 22:18 |
| ajmitch | after how many hours? | 22:19 |
| StevenK | Many. Left the hotel at Prague at 2pm, Saturday, +2 | 22:19 |
| ajmitch | fun | 22:23 |
| sebner | gn8 folks | 22:24 |
| RAOF | StevenK: Welcome home. | 22:35 |
| StevenK | RAOF: Thanks! | 22:35 |
| emgent | :) | 22:37 |
| norsetto | huats: really touch and go eh? :-) | 23:06 |
| norsetto | anyone know who is the leader for ubuntu-mobile? | 23:12 |
| StevenK | norsetto: Why do you ask? | 23:14 |
| norsetto | StevenK: err, because I want to know? | 23:15 |
| StevenK | norsetto: Nominally, David Mandala, davidm on Launchpad | 23:16 |
| norsetto | StevenK: ok, but he wasn't at UDS (or I don't remember him)? emgent wants to interview him for an italian linux journal | 23:16 |
| StevenK | norsetto: David was at both FOSSCamp and UDS. | 23:17 |
| emgent | heya StevenK | 23:17 |
| * StevenK waves | 23:17 | |
| norsetto | StevenK: ok thx ... you recovered from the party :-) ? | 23:17 |
| StevenK | Funny you should mention that, I was out with David helping him shop instead of at the party. | 23:18 |
| norsetto | StevenK: ah! | 23:18 |
| norsetto | g'night all | 23:39 |
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