[00:01] <aanderse> Oak_: wired or wireless network?
[00:01] <Oak_> wired
[00:02] <aanderse> did you post on forums yet?
[00:02] <Oak_> no
[00:02] <Oak_> I am not even quite sure what to post
[00:02] <Oak_> or where
[00:03] <aanderse> ubuntuforums.org is a good spot to solve problems
[00:03] <Oak_> ok
[00:07] <Oak_> brb changing connection cords
[00:21] <xenos_> how do i check the version i'm running with xubuntu?
[00:21] <xenos_> updates are 'up to date' but ... i doubt it.
[01:20] <Oak___> My computer is now showing according to the icon on the top bar of my screen that I am connected to the internet but my router does not see the computer and nothing online works
[01:20] <Oak___> (not this compter another one next to it)
[01:21] <Oak___> I configured the network manager I am pretty certain the way it should be
[01:23] <Oak___> I looked all over the forums and the documentation and nothing was helpful
[01:40] <Oak___> how do I register on this server so I can pm?
[01:49] <kappaccino> try /register help
[01:49] <kappaccino> whoops
[01:49] <kappaccino> that doesn't work
[02:11] <DaveKong> I just found it out
[02:11] <DaveKong> thanks
[02:12] <DaveKong> oak was taken
[02:16] <DaveKong> anyone keen on network issues I have been struggling with this for a long time now and no one seems to know why my connection is not working
[02:58] <DaveKong> I have set up my internet connection correctly and the icon on the top bar shows a wired connection but I am unable to use the internet at all
[02:59] <DaveKong> My router does not see the computer
[02:59] <DaveKong> anyone know what may be going on?
[03:05] <SniperXPX> hello
[03:06] <SniperXPX> is there a way i can bypass some of the procedures in the "Checking file systems" on boot? mine seems to freeze at "Starting Hardware abstraction layer hald"
[03:06] <SniperXPX> further explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=494775
[03:06] <SniperXPX> I need to get in and recompile inotify or something
[03:08] <DaveKong_> The router light is flahsing green but is not solid
[03:12] <DaveKong_> no one has any ideas?
[04:15]  * Dorne Just running xubuntu usb to log all of my channels
[04:35] <hexoroid> hello all
[04:43] <hexoroid> I just did apt-get xubuntu-desktop
[04:44] <hexoroid> then on gnome i went to logout then change the sessiong to "xfce"
[04:44] <hexoroid> and it still logs me into GNOME ?
[07:32] <kibibyte> hi
[07:33] <kibibyte> how to change keyboard layout?
[08:18] <totalwormage> kibibyte: use setxkbmap :]
[08:49] <Valsum> Morning.
[09:42] <Iskr> why is updatedb running even if i put the update manager options stating that i don't want it to check for updates?
[09:42] <Iskr> periodically when i boot it runs someway slowing me down very much
[09:45] <TheSheep> Iskr: updatedb has nothing to do with update manager
[09:46] <Iskr> ah
[09:46] <TheSheep> Iskr: it updates the filename database for use with the 'locate' command
[09:46] <Iskr> ok
[09:46] <Iskr> so it wasn't it
[09:46] <Iskr> i was wrong in locating the app name
[09:46] <Iskr> but it was the update manager running
[09:47] <Iskr> i know it because its icon from orange was grey
[09:47] <Iskr> like it is when there is some package manager running
[09:47] <TheSheep> no idea
[09:48] <Iskr> =(
[09:48] <TheSheep> next time you have it you can check if it does any network connections, with 'netstat'
[09:48] <Iskr> anyway i'd really like to remove that orange icon from my system tray... i'd like to start the update manager when I want to update
[09:50] <TheSheep> Iskr: settings->setting manager->autostarted applications
[09:50] <Iskr> yes TheSheep
[09:50] <Iskr> i have already done it
[09:50] <TheSheep> you can even uninstall the whole thing with synaptic
[09:50] <Iskr> but it didn't work
[09:50] <Iskr> i swear
[09:50] <Iskr> even if i check it now
[09:51] <TheSheep> perhaps it was saved with your session
[09:51] <Iskr> the application is unchecked
[09:51] <Iskr> but nevertheless it started
[09:51] <TheSheep> xfce can remember the application that were running when you logged out and start them when you log in
[09:52] <TheSheep> if it has the 'save session' checkbox set when you are loggin out
[09:52] <Iskr> oh yes it's true
[09:52] <Iskr> it could be that
[09:52] <Iskr> so i must kill it
[09:53] <TheSheep> you can clear your session by deleting the files in ~/.cache/sessions/
[09:53] <Iskr> i killed it
[09:53] <Iskr> r.i.p.
[09:53] <Iskr> thank you very much as usual TheSheep you are always very useful
[09:54] <TheSheep> cool
[09:55] <Iskr> do you also know how i can make my pdf icon back after being changed by acroreader?
[09:57] <TheSheep> Iskr: I have no idea what acrobat does with the icon
[09:57] <TheSheep> Iskr: I suppose you could replace the icon it installed
[09:57] <Iskr> yes but how?
[09:57] <TheSheep> Iskr: or just remove it, then it will fallback to the default
[09:58] <Iskr> yes but i need it
[09:58] <TheSheep> well, first you need to find it...
[09:58] <TheSheep> the icon file, not whole acrobat
[09:58] <Iskr> ah yes
[09:58] <Iskr> i tried to remove it
[09:58] <TheSheep> dpkg -L packagename will list the files contained in a package
[09:59] <Iskr> let me found the howto i had tried
[10:02] <lsolesen> I am trying to install xubuntu on a lenovo t60, and everything worked but the wireless. I have googled a bit, and it seems I need to install http://intellinuxwireless.org/?n=Downloads
[10:02] <Iskr> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=698402 <- i have done this
[10:02] <lsolesen> But how do I do that?
[10:02] <Iskr> it didn't work
[10:03] <TheSheep> lsolesen: I'm sure there are howtos on the think wiki
[10:04] <TheSheep> Iskr: you have acrobat in that directory?
[10:04] <TheSheep> Iskr: or is it a different version?
[10:05] <Iskr> yes of course it's same directory and same verions -.-
[10:06] <TheSheep> it should work by my book, any error messages?
[10:06] <Iskr> no -.-
[10:07] <Iskr> the 'save session' feature has nothing to do with this thing, isn't it?
[10:08] <lsolesen> TheSheep: you are probably right, but could not find it :) Hoped some clever guy here knew a link. I only have a wireless signal where I am installing, so I have to switch to win every time I want to look something up. A little annoying :)
[10:08] <TheSheep> lsolesen: here is some info: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_6.10_(Edgy_Eft)_on_a_ThinkPad_T60#Wireless_LAN
[10:10] <TheSheep> Iskr: no
[11:26] <lsolesen> I tried to install the wireless card, and it seems that everything is installed now. However, there are still no apparent wireless connection. Got this when doing $ dmesg | grep hal
[11:26] <lsolesen> [17179590.420000] ath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel. [17179590.424000]
[11:26] <lsolesen> ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
[11:29] <lsolesen> There is no light in the wireless connection light. However, the buttom to turn it on will not work (it works on windows), so I guess I do not know where to turn it on.
[11:55] <kibibyte> how to access windows partition?
[12:30] <renegade444> I'm trying to get xubuntu 8.04 to run on an older machine (p2-400 w/196MB RAM) and am having some sound issues. Anyone on happen to be good with sound issues in Xubuntu?
[13:58] <nikin> hy
[13:59] <nikin> i am trying to set up my notebook hotkeys.. but i bumped in a problem... my Fn keys do not repeat any keycodes.. as seen with showkey.
[14:00] <nikin> some of the keys are workinng... like the brightes setting
[14:02] <TheSheep> brightness is hardware
[14:03] <TheSheep> not a hotkey
[14:46] <mr_boo> hi
[14:47] <mr_boo> can i use the floppy/lan method to install xubuntu hardy heron on a laptop?
[14:51] <TheSheep> yes
[14:51] <TheSheep> !install
[14:52] <mr_boo> TheSheep: thanks
[14:52] <TheSheep> mr_boo: best install a command-line system and then install the xubuntu-desktop meta package
[14:52] <mr_boo> ok
[15:57] <alado2> what do i need to change in xubuntu before i replace my ATI video card with a Nvidia one? and where do i do it?
[15:59] <totalwor1age> search for 'nvidia' in installed packages and remove them
[16:00] <totalwor1age> you might also want to reconfigure your X if you want to install the ati drivers in a graphical environment
[16:59] <boxy> hi, i just did an apt-get install xubuntu-desktop on a minimal install and i restarted and gdm let me login but the desktop just pops up a terminal and there are no menus or panels or title bar for the terminal
[17:04] <aanderse> in gdm you should try to choose xfce as your session
[17:04] <aanderse> that could be the problem
[17:05] <Boxxxer> hello
[17:05] <aanderse> hi
[17:06] <Boxxxer> i have an issue with the login screen resolution in xubuntu
[17:06] <Boxxxer> i have the xorg.conf everything on default
[17:07] <Boxxxer> i would like to make it to suit my needs
[17:07] <boxy> what if i dont even want to use gdm
[17:07] <boxy> how would i start it right? i tried just startx and i get the same problem
[17:07] <aanderse> boxy: what do you want to use? slim?
[17:07] <boxy> slim?
[17:07] <aanderse> and it's startxfce4, not startx
[17:07] <boxy> oh that may be the problem
[17:08] <boxy> id rather just login in the terminal, if i decide i want a desktop ill open one
[17:08] <boxy> but thanks ill try that real quick
[17:08] <aanderse> yup
[17:08] <aanderse> oh ps....
[17:08] <Boxxxer> when i set the screen resolution in Ubuntu, the xorg.conf is then edited with all the available resolutions, but i can't do that in Xubuntu
[17:08] <Boxxxer> got any ideas=
[17:08] <Boxxxer> ?
[17:09] <aanderse> so your login screen resolution is smaller than your desktop resolution?
[17:09] <Boxxxer> exactly
[17:09] <Boxxxer> it looks very ugly
[17:10] <Boxxxer> my screen resolution is 1280×960
[17:10] <Boxxxer> but the login screen is way off
[17:10] <Boxxxer> i think it's more like a 800×600
[17:11] <Boxxxer> i don't know why wasn't the login screen set to 1280×960 when i set the screen resolution to 1280×960
[17:11] <aanderse> ok, let's start with your xorg.conf... if you could go to /etc/X11/ and paste the contents of xorg.conf to .... something like http://rafb.net/paste/
[17:11] <Boxxxer> just a sec
[17:13] <Boxxxer> okay here it is: http://rafb.net/p/8qCCR292.html
[17:13] <Boxxxer> this is how it looks like
[17:14] <aanderse> oh... yeah xorg just sets itself up nowadays... doesn't it....
[17:14] <Boxxxer> yeah
[17:14] <Boxxxer> but not gor me
[17:14] <Boxxxer> *for
[17:14] <Boxxxer> i've changed the screen resolution to 1280×960@60 but that didn't change xorg.conf
[17:15] <aanderse> you can still use xorg if you want though
[17:15] <aanderse> yeah on my other pc i had to manually set xorg.conf because it couldn't detect it for me
[17:15] <aanderse> what video card do you have?
[17:15] <Boxxxer> ATI Radeon 9550
[17:16] <Boxxxer> it's supported in Ubuntu
[17:16] <aanderse> hmm yeah... i know xorg.conf settings... but xorg is changing so much and i think they are getting away from modifying that file
[17:16] <Boxxxer> when i used Ubuntu, there was an application in which you could set the default monitor and the driver of the graphics card...
[17:17] <Boxxxer> when i poked around with this settings, that changed my xorg.conf
[17:17] <aanderse> an older version of ubuntu?
[17:17] <Boxxxer> no no, the Ubuntu 8.04
[17:18] <aanderse> do you know how to modify xorg.conf properly?
[17:18] <Boxxxer> not really
[17:19] <Boxxxer> do you happen to know the name of the app in Ubuntu in which you set the default screen and set whether you have two screens and the driver of your graphics card?
[17:19] <Boxxxer> i forgot
[17:19] <TheSheep> Boxxxer: displayconfig-gtk
[17:19] <Boxxxer> oh, thanks buddy
[17:20] <Boxxxer> i think i need to install that package
[17:20] <TheSheep> no, it should be installed by default
[17:20] <Boxxxer> hmm
[17:20] <Boxxxer> let me just run it
[17:20] <Boxxxer> yes!!
[17:21] <Boxxxer> i have the same app as i had in ubuntu which then set the proper login screen resolution
[17:21] <Boxxxer> thanks TheSheep
[17:21] <Boxxxer> omg
[17:22] <Boxxxer> now i have another problem
[17:22] <Boxxxer> i can't even change the settings
[17:22] <Boxxxer> everything is greyed out
[17:22] <Boxxxer> now why is that so? hmmm...
[17:23] <Boxxxer> can you give me some help here? it'll be very much appreciated
[17:23] <aanderse> open a terminal
[17:23] <aanderse> and type
[17:23] <aanderse> sudo displayconfig-gtk
[17:23] <Boxxxer> oh!
[17:23] <Boxxxer> i'm so stupid
[17:24] <aanderse> i imagine that will solve your problem
[17:24] <Boxxxer> lol
[17:24] <Boxxxer> yeah it did
[17:24] <Boxxxer> thanks buddy ;)
[17:24] <Boxxxer> you're the best
[17:25] <aanderse> not a problem
[17:26] <Boxxxer> there's a little question now...
[17:26] <Boxxxer> i have ATI Radeon 9550
[17:27] <Boxxxer> and i have to choose the Graphics Card Driver
[17:27] <Boxxxer> i choose ATI as the Manufacturer
[17:27] <Boxxxer> but i don't know which model
[17:27] <Boxxxer> Radeon (fglrx)  perhaps?
[17:28] <Boxxxer> or maybe  Radeon (fbdev) ?
[17:28] <Boxxxer> Radeon (vesa) ?  (what is vesa anyway?)
[17:28] <Boxxxer> Radeon
[17:28] <aanderse> don't know too much about ati's
[17:29] <Boxxxer> or Radeon 8500
[17:29] <Boxxxer> i'm baffled
[17:30] <Boxxxer> Radeon (fbdev) sound like a driver in development
[17:30] <Boxxxer> or maybe not   maybe dev  means device
[17:30] <Boxxxer> hmm
[17:31] <Boxxxer> anyway, thanks for your help
[17:31] <Boxxxer> bye now ;)
[17:48] <Boxxxer> hello again
[17:48] <Boxxxer> i have solved my problem
[17:49] <Boxxxer> thanks to you
[17:49] <Boxxxer> now i need you again ;)
[17:49] <Boxxxer> i can't lock my screen
[17:50] <Boxxxer> and i also can't set those special buttons on my multimedia keyboard to do some action when pressed
[17:51] <Boxxxer> i wanna set my  WWW  button to open my default webbrowser (which is Firefox of course)
[17:51] <Boxxxer> do you have any idea about the lock screen and the keyboard buttons?
[17:56] <aanderse> yup
[17:56] <aanderse> there's a couple options for locking your screen
[17:57] <aanderse> search in synaptic for xlock and you'll get a couple
[17:57] <aanderse> xscreensaver is a pretty good way to do it (pretty good = userfriendly)
[18:05] <Boxxxer> thanks
[18:06] <Boxxxer> i don't know why this isn't installed by default?
[18:06] <Boxxxer> i figure it's because they wanted to make Xubuntu lightweight
[18:06] <Boxxxer> and it's only 500 MB or so
[18:07] <aanderse> i think you'll see xubuntu dramatically improving in the next release or two
[18:07] <aanderse> the new project leader sounds like he's pretty with it
[18:07] <aanderse> listening to what he had to say at UDS and just his general enthusiasm for the project, expect good things
[18:07] <Boxxxer> very nice
[18:08] <Boxxxer> i'm running Xubuntu on a relatively fast machine, but i prefered to install this one just to check it out
[18:09] <Boxxxer> and i must tell you it's great
[18:09] <Boxxxer> i think i'll stick with it
[18:10] <Boxxxer> i had Ubuntu with Extra effects and it worked good
[18:10] <Boxxxer> but as soon as i get everything going here (as i did in Ubuntu) i'll stick with Xubuntu ;)
[18:11] <aanderse> oh xfce is where it's at
[18:11] <aanderse> has nothing to do with the light weight factor for me
[18:11] <aanderse> it's easily configurable
[18:11] <aanderse> and highly configurable
[18:11] <Boxxxer> yeah
[18:11] <Boxxxer> i know
[18:11] <Boxxxer> i love the Settings Manager
[18:11] <aanderse> mhm
[18:11] <Boxxxer> it's cool
[18:12] <Boxxxer> what's the default locking app in Ubuntu named?
[18:12] <aanderse> probably gnome-screensaver ?
[18:13] <Boxxxer> i'll check it out
[18:14] <aanderse> do you use the compositor on xfce?
[18:14] <aanderse> like transparencies? if not, i recommend it :)
[18:14] <Boxxxer> i don't
[18:15] <Boxxxer> shadows are kinda cool but nah, it's okay the way it is... at least for me ;)
[18:15] <aanderse> k
[18:15] <Boxxxer> what is this  Display full screen overlay windows directly  for?
[18:15] <Boxxxer> in Compositor that is
[18:16] <Boxxxer> what does this do?
[18:16] <aanderse> ?
[18:16] <Boxxxer> it's a checkbox
[18:16] <Boxxxer> if it's checked, what does it do?
[18:17] <Boxxxer> oh... please tell me about this Orage (the calendar)
[18:18] <Boxxxer> i clicked it in Settings Manager and now it's popping up every time i boot into the desktop
[18:18] <aanderse> heh
[18:19] <Boxxxer> i wanna get rid of it
[18:19] <Boxxxer> it's so annoying
[18:19] <aanderse> you probably have xfce set to remember what apps you have running
[18:19] <Boxxxer> and it's not present in th
[18:19] <Boxxxer> hmmm, don't know
[18:19] <aanderse> type killall orage
[18:19] <aanderse> then logout
[18:19] <aanderse> then logback in
[18:19] <aanderse> should be gone
[18:20] <Boxxxer> and if i reboot, would it be silenced?
[18:20] <aanderse> has nothing to do with rebooting
[18:20] <aanderse> has to do with logging in, i imagine
[18:20] <Boxxxer> okay
[18:21] <Boxxxer> brb
[18:21] <Boxxxer> yup ;)
[18:21] <Boxxxer> you're right on
[18:22] <Boxxxer> how can i set xfce not to remember those apps i'm running?
[18:22] <Boxxxer> do you happen to recall where that setting is?
[18:23] <aanderse> yup
[18:23] <aanderse> session and startup settings
[18:23] <aanderse> "automatically save session on logout"
[18:23] <Boxxxer> it's not checked
[18:23] <Boxxxer> and it wasn't before
[18:23] <Boxxxer> hmm
[18:24] <Boxxxer> but i have the Prompt on logout checked
[18:24] <Boxxxer> which i always not uncheck
[18:24] <aanderse> then one time you must have saved it?
[18:24] <Boxxxer> yeah
[18:24] <Boxxxer> i must have
[18:24] <Boxxxer> is it possible to remove it?
[18:25] <Boxxxer> like  apt-get remove orage ?
[18:25] <aanderse> yup
[18:25] <aanderse> that will get rid of orage
[18:25] <aanderse> maybe purge instead if you want
[18:25] <aanderse> whatever
[18:25] <Boxxxer> purge?
[18:25] <Boxxxer> isn't that a Gentoo package manager?
[18:25] <aanderse> lol
[18:25] <aanderse> gentoo has a purge option as well, yes
[18:26] <Boxxxer> oh :)
[18:26] <Boxxxer> oh and it's portage
[18:26] <Boxxxer> sorry :/
[18:26] <aanderse> yup
[18:26] <aanderse> mmm portage
[18:26] <Boxxxer> :D
[18:27] <Boxxxer> you like Gentoo?
[18:27] <aanderse> yes and no
[18:27] <aanderse> i like choosing compile flags
[18:27] <aanderse> but i don't like waiting for things to compile
[18:27] <Boxxxer> i had it installed once but i was like in the dark with no matches and stuff, so i removed it
[18:27] <aanderse> you should only use gentoo if you know a fair bit about gnu/linux
[18:28] <Boxxxer> i didn't know how to do stuff in Gentoo i ment to say
[18:28] <Boxxxer> yeah
[18:28] <Boxxxer> i recon
[18:28] <Boxxxer> so with purge i completely remove orage (along with its settings and stuff, right?)
[18:29] <aanderse> yeah purge is good
[18:29] <Boxxxer> so
[18:29] <Boxxxer> apt-get purge orage
[18:29] <Boxxxer> lemme try this baby
[18:30] <Boxxxer> oh... will the icon of Orage also be gone in the Settings Manager?
[18:30] <aanderse> yes
[18:31] <Boxxxer> hmmm
[18:31] <Boxxxer> orage is removed but not the icon
[18:31] <Boxxxer> maybe i need to logout or something
[18:33] <aanderse> could be
[18:33] <Boxxxer> oh, there's no package named gnome-screensaver
[18:34] <Boxxxer> there is an option to add the lock screen icon on the panel, but clicking on it makes no action at all
[18:37] <Boxxxer> brb
[18:39] <Boxxxer> yeah i had to log out and log in in order for that Orage icon in the Settings Manager to disappear
[18:39] <Boxxxer> nice
[18:39] <aanderse> it would be really useful if you filed these things as bugs :)
[18:39] <aanderse> all these little issues pertaining to xfce
[18:40] <Boxxxer> it's not really a bug
[18:40] <Boxxxer> it's more like a annoyance ;)
[18:40] <aanderse> orage not dissappearing from the settings manager is a bug
[18:40] <aanderse> lock screen not working is a bug
[18:40] <aanderse> etc
[18:40] <Boxxxer> oh
[18:40] <Boxxxer> so it should
[18:40] <Boxxxer> hmm
[18:40] <aanderse> you would be directly improving xubuntu if you filed those
[18:40] <Boxxxer> can you help me on this?
[18:41] <aanderse> with what?
[18:41] <Boxxxer> you file the orage bug, i'll file the lock screen bug
[18:41] <Boxxxer> deal? :)
[18:42] <aanderse> if it didn't happen to me, i can't file it because i don't know the details
[18:42] <aanderse> i don't know what package you have installed
[18:42] <aanderse> etc
[18:42] <aanderse> though
[18:42] <aanderse> i'm running debian unstable on this laptop
[18:42] <Boxxxer> this is Xubuntu out-of-the-box
[18:42] <Boxxxer> and it's the only OS i have on my machine
[18:43] <aanderse> i'd have to turn on my other computer and fire up a vm which has xubuntu out of the box on it
[18:43] <Boxxxer> please do
[18:43] <aanderse> so how about you file it, and i'll grab a shower!
[18:43] <aanderse> :p
[18:43] <Boxxxer> hmm :)
[18:43] <Boxxxer> okay :P
[18:43] <aanderse> thanks
[18:43] <Boxxxer> oh
[18:43] <Boxxxer> please tell me _where_ to file it
[18:43] <Boxxxer> that'll be good:)
[18:44] <aanderse> you ever filed a bug ?
[18:44] <Boxxxer> i don't know where is any xubuntu bug tracker on the net
[18:45] <Boxxxer> i know launchpad
[18:45] <aanderse> you ever filed a bug ?
[18:45] <Boxxxer> yup
[18:45] <Boxxxer> more than once actually
[18:45] <Boxxxer> on launchpad
[18:45] <Boxxxer> for ubuntu
[18:45] <Boxxxer> i don't know if that bug tracker is for xubuntu as well
[18:47] <Boxxxer> Featured projects only lists Ubuntu
[18:47] <Boxxxer> do you think that's the same bug tracker for the subproject Xubuntu?
[18:47] <aanderse> not sure, never filed an xubuntu specific bug before actually
[18:48] <aanderse> anywho, i really gotta get going... hopefully someone can help you file the bug!
[18:48] <aanderse> bye for now
[18:51] <Boxxxer> man, i forgot my launchpad email
[18:51] <Boxxxer> darn
[19:00] <Boxxxer> i've gotta go
[19:00] <Boxxxer> talk to ya later buddy
[19:00] <Boxxxer> have fun
[19:00] <Boxxxer> bye now
[19:36] <holo> hi
[19:36] <holo> i installed pulseaudio and now i don't hear anything when i play an mp3
[19:37] <holo> it does play, but the sound doesn't come out
[19:37] <holo> in pavucontrol the sound seems to be activated
[19:37] <holo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[19:37] <holo> i used this tut
[19:48] <Miklos> hello?
[20:42] <nikolam> hi how do i set resolution for login screen?
[20:43] <nikolam> I just installed latest fglrx driver for my Graphicx and login screen is in some wrong resolution
[20:43] <nikolam> I can set it up for my user and wgen i log in, resolution is ok
[20:43] <nikolam> But how to choose default resolution for all users
[20:43] <cody-somerville> nikolam, hmm...
[20:44] <nikolam> and how to make login screen in roght resolution
[20:44] <nikolam> hey ji cody-somerville :)
[20:44] <cody-somerville> I had the same issue
[20:44] <cody-somerville> I just ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and dpkg-reconfigure gdm and it seemed to fix the problem
[20:44] <nikolam> and..
[20:44] <nikolam> I will do just that.
[20:45] <nikolam> it seems that with previous fglrx that didn`t work
[20:45] <nikolam> will try it and i will come back
[20:45] <nikolam> cul8r
[20:45] <nikolam> :)
[20:47] <nikolam> The only problem is that Console swithching (Ctrl+Alt+F1, F2, F3...) Does NOT work now... ;*(
[20:50] <aanderse> that's the second person today with a problem with ati + gdm resolution
[20:50] <aanderse> is it a known bug?
[20:55] <sunkim> ive got the same problem as nikolam and cody-somerville but the dpkg-commando didnt work.. it says something like (dpkg:conflicting measures e (--control) and r (--remove)
[20:56]  * burner gets excited about the memory reduction and fuse-inclusion for 8.10 :)  It'll make me use XFCE on my eee again
[20:56] <burner> cody-somerville: you're a suit! ;)
[20:56] <cody-somerville> burner, I _am_ a suit? :P
[20:57] <burner> lookin all corporate in your youtube interview with suit and tie
[20:57] <cody-somerville> lol
[20:57] <burner> it was cool though...  good work man
[20:59] <burner> one question... i didn't hear anything about xubuntu + usb stick booting... any plans?
[20:59] <burner> i haven't tried fedora's creator since it's windows based, but the eeexubuntu dude made a sweet .sh file that would be nothing to include and make a desktop icon for
[20:59] <cody-somerville> there are plans to be able to install it to usb via the desktop installer
[21:00] <burner> but does that "install" it to usb or does it make your usb a "live-cd" ?
[21:00] <burner> i prefer the latter so I can then install xubuntu on eee pcs and other notebooks with no cd rom
[21:00]  * cody-somerville is not sure.
[21:00] <Boxxxer> hello
[21:01] <cody-somerville> burner, I can find out for you.
[21:01] <Boxxxer> aanderse, you here buddy?
[21:01] <aanderse> whats up?
[21:01] <burner> I'm very curious
[21:01]  * cody-somerville nods.
[21:01] <nikolam> I found out that dpkg-reconfigure kills most of previous settings in xorg.conf.
[21:02]  * burner goes back to replacing gnome with xfce on his eee... cheers
[21:02] <cody-somerville> :)
[21:02]  * cody-somerville goes to get ready for dinner. *waveS*
[21:02] <aanderse> Boxxxer: did you file those bugs? ;)
[21:03] <Boxxxer> no :/
[21:03] <aanderse> lol
[21:04] <sunkim> i installed drivers for my graphic card but after that i've got very small resolution and can't change it?
[21:04] <sunkim> help?
[21:04] <Boxxxer> did you run your other computer on which you have Xubuntu out-of-the-box installed
[21:04] <aanderse> anywho, afk so talk to you later
[21:04] <Boxxxer> ?
[21:04] <aanderse> oh, nope
[21:04] <Boxxxer> please do
[21:04] <aanderse> will have to try to reproduce the bug later though, yeah
[21:04] <aanderse> k, ttyl
[21:04] <Boxxxer> and file the bug yourself if you have the time
[21:04] <Boxxxer> be well
[21:14] <Boxxxer_> okay my alt nick is registererd
[21:14] <Boxxxer_> just tell me how to set an e-mail address for the main nick
[21:15] <Boxxxer> sorry, wring channel, lol
[21:15] <Boxxxer> *wrong
[21:27] <WaxyFresh> Would i gain any speed from removing xfceś menu bar and replacing it with kooldock? im on a verrry slow box and want to conserve ram as much as possible
[21:38] <WaxyFresh> No ideas? input?^
[21:44] <WaxyFresh> What can i disable/remove from xubuntu to speed it up some?
[22:01] <WaxyFresh> So from my reading it seems like running kde apps on an xfce sytem will slow it down,does this apply to gnome apps also? sorry im confused here
[22:03] <ddro> I'm a total newbie, but I'm guessing that since gnome is slower than xfce, gnome apps will be slower too. Just a guess though
[22:06] <WaxyFresh> I think it has something to do with kde librarys running slowing on a non-kde desktop enviroment. but im not sure
[22:08] <ddro> okay, xbuntu is almost done installing for the third time on my c600 laptop, so I might as well ask now. Is there an updated guide on getting a linksys wpc54g v3 card to work in xbuntu 7.10 that anyone can point me to? I've tried to follow a couple, and so far I haven't gotten any of them to work. I'm also doing this with no access to internet, as the ethernet card on the top isn't working.
[22:10] <floating_> why did you choose 7.10 over 8.04
[22:10] <floating_> have you searched ubuntu forums or google for installing cards
[22:11] <floating_> those
[22:13] <ddro> I tried 8.04 graphical install, and couldn't get it to install. Since I had the text based install cd for 7.10, I figured I'd just use it. I've been throught about two different guides off the forum, and have tried to pull useful info from a few others that were based on different distros or that required an internet connection, but no luck
[22:17] <ddro> If no one knows of an updated guide, that's cool. I'll try the install again with the most updated guide I know of and ask specific questions here as I go. I just thought I'd see if anyone knew of a specific guide.
[22:17] <Odd-rationale> ddro: what is giving you trouble?
[22:24] <ddro> well, the last few times I've tried, a few things. When i get to the part when I try to blacklist the default driver, I get a message that the blacklist file doesn't exist. I remember having problems getting ndiswrapper or some of it's other packages to install one time, but I'm not quite sure what went wrong. And then there's trying to get the driver to load. the closest I've gotten to a working card is to have ndiswrapper say I have the 
[22:35] <WaxyFresh> is ther a way to see if im running any kde native apps?
[23:16] <kibibyte> hi
[23:24] <WaxyFresh> Why hasent anyone been able to answer any of my quesitons? ive been waiting like 2 hours..
[23:25] <WaxyFresh> Sorry for my impatiance my time is kinda limited so i dont get much time to research things like this
[23:25] <holo> hi
[23:25] <holo> I just made a fresh install of xubuntu
[23:26] <holo> and the microphone apears to be dead
[23:26] <WaxyFresh> havew you turned it on in the volume control app?
[23:26] <kappaccino> this channel is like an ant compared to #ubuntu
[23:26] <holo> WaxyFresh, which one?
[23:26] <kappaccino> ._.
[23:28] <holo> WaxyFresh, are you talking about settings -> mixer settings?
[23:28] <holo> yes, everything is set there
[23:29] <homeuser> hello people.
[23:29] <homeuser> My screen is using a resolution that is good but it flickers quite a bit. When focusing on one area, out of peripheral vision all other areas flicker quite a bit....
[23:30] <homeuser> so is that the refresh rate that needs to be adjusted?
[23:30] <kappaccino> did you try adjusting the refresh rate?
[23:30] <homeuser> kappaccino: no. Under Display Preferences, it shows resolution set to Default.
[23:31] <homeuser> kappaccino: If I change it to any others, it is smooth but he resolution is not the same as the current one.... Always a little smaller....
[23:32] <homeuser> kappaccino: but if yo have any suggestions I'd give it a shot.
[23:32] <kappaccino> is there no option for you to change it? (is it an LCD?)
[23:33] <homeuser> kappaccino: there's many givesn options under Default ... such as 1280x900 @60, 1280x900 @75. But none of them is the same resolution as the current one which is really good and the highest I've seen on the system. :)
[23:34] <kappaccino> so this is a CRT monitor or LCD?
[23:34] <homeuser> kappaccino: CRT.
[23:34] <kappaccino> ah
[23:35] <kappaccino> the flickering is probably the fault of low refresh rates
[23:35] <WaxyFresh> holo: yes thats what i was speaking of,besides that i cant help you. there might be opther settings in there you can try but im not sure what.
[23:36] <homeuser> kappaccino: right. So I was curious how to determine the current resolution. Then maybe I can find that one int eh list and with a higher refresh rate.
[23:36] <kappaccino> what size is the monitor?
[23:37] <holo> WaxyFresh, this is really strange... i can't complain about the sound quality for example, its clean as was never before
[23:37] <homeuser> kappaccino: it is a samsung synmaster 750 19".
[23:37] <holo> i'm hearing gladiator soundtrack with such a pleasure :)
[23:37] <homeuser> kappaccino: trying to look up it's supported refresh rates. :) Don't wanna set it to 70 or 85 if it can't support it. :)
[23:39] <kappaccino> homeuser: 1280x1024 would be an optimal resolution for a 19" crt monitor
[23:39] <homeuser> kappaccino: wait. This is a 17".
[23:39] <kappaccino> oh
[23:39] <homeuser> kappaccino: it has been such a logn time using this that I even forgot this monitor was only 17". :)
[23:39] <homeuser> so maybe 1024x768?
[23:40] <kappaccino> yeah try that, I also have a 17" at work and that's what I use
[23:41] <kappaccino> I have the refresh rate set at 75Hz
[23:41] <homeuser> kappaccino: I gnome, it doesn't flicker. Or I never noticed it. In xfce it flicker to the point of giving me a headache. So if I change it here, is it going to be for all X sessions?
[23:41] <homeuser> In other words, I like my gnome settings and I'd rather not mess with those.
[23:42] <kappaccino> I have no idea
[23:42] <homeuser> kappaccino: well then, there's only one way to find out. :)
[23:44] <homeuser> yeah after setting it to even 1152x864 @ 75, it is quit a lower resolution that the "Default"
[23:45] <homeuser> ok, the Default is using 1280x960@60.
[23:45] <homeuser> I wonder if it can be changed somethign in X settings without smoking the monitor.
[23:46] <holo> is it safe to install pulseaudio in hardy without disrupting all my audio settings?
[23:46] <homeuser> ah, max recommended is 1280x1024 @ 66.
[23:47] <homeuser> holo: what is pulseaudio?
[23:47] <holo> homeuser, it's the replacement of esound
[23:48] <holo> its a midleware between aplications and the sound drivers
[23:48] <holo> it can redirect sound stream to whatever one wants, mix sounds, etc
[23:48] <homeuser> oh something like ladspa and jack and all those?
[23:48] <homeuser> oh like JACK?
[23:48] <holo> well, don't know many of the others
[23:49] <holo> but i'm out of clues now in what to do to put my microphone working
[23:50] <holo> suposelly pulseaudio is installed by default in hardy
[23:50] <holo> but i don't see its tools here
[23:51] <holo> ok, pulseaudio sounds like the next big thing, so i'll just install everything from it
[23:52] <homeuser> yeah I'm still googling to see what it is... :)
[23:52] <homeuser> holo: so I don't really have the knowledge to respond to your question. but I maybe learning something new todya. :)
[23:52] <homeuser> *today.
[23:52] <holo> hehe
[23:52] <holo> nice then
[23:53] <homeuser> sorry. :)
[23:54] <holo> no problem, there are 60 people here.. I hope there isn't anyone else here that is sorry not to be able to help me
[23:54] <holo> it would be a sorry chaos
[23:54] <homeuser> hehe.
[23:59] <homeuser> have fun all.
[23:59] <homeuser> kappaccino: thanks for your help. I'm gonna leave it as is. :)