/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/05/26/#kubuntu-devel.txt

seeleDaskreecH: which one?00:18
seeleyikes.. my admin is going to kill me00:19
seelei should have known better than to post pictures on the server..00:19
* seele yawns again00:20
seelewant to sleeeeep..00:20
nosrednaekimnice pics.... who's the dude with the ponytail?00:20
nosrednaekimseele: ^^00:20
seelescott wheeler, another kdeer00:20
DaskreecHKdeer?00:22
nosrednaekimah00:22
nosrednaekimKDE'r00:23
DaskreecHdoes that have Kveal?00:23
nosrednaekimheh00:23
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ArbyRiddell: around?09:32
Riddellhi Arby09:36
ArbyRiddell: I have a working-ish  kde4 port of jockey, if I put the branch up on lp do you have time to take a look?09:36
Arbyit's still work in progress09:37
Arbycurrent it runs but fails the unit tests in ways I don't understand09:37
Riddellmm, I don't understand those unit tests either09:37
Riddellbut can try09:38
Arbyand is it worth giving pitti a heads up since he seems to be the main jockey person09:38
ArbyOK I'll put it up09:38
Arbywhen I've looked up how09:38
Riddellbzr push ...09:44
ArbyRiddell: I know but launchpad is throwing ssh errors09:46
Arbycould be a problem with my key09:46
RiddellArby: what url are you pushing to?09:55
ArbyRiddell: got it now09:55
Arbyit was my key that was faulty09:56
ArbyRiddell: it should now be at https://code.launchpad.net/~rbirnie/jockey/jockey-kde409:56
Arbythe command I used was bzr push bzr+ssh://rbirnie@bazaar.launchpad.net/~rbirnie/jockey/jockey-kde409:57
Arbycurrently the unittests fail with http://paste.ubuntu.com/14745/09:59
ArbyI think this is related to the KAboutData object I created to keep KCmdLineArgs happy10:00
Arbyif this is not the right way to do it let me know10:00
ArbyRiddell: I have to go out for a while now. Leave any comments here or e-mail me and I'll be back this afternoon.10:02
Riddellah, slight problem, no pykde on this machine10:05
Riddelljr@lichts:~/src/jockey-kde4>./tests/run-qt10:34
RiddellFatal error: you need to have a KComponentData object10:34
Arby Riddell: well at least you get the same result I do that's a start12:33
Arbyany idea what would cause it, am I doing anything obviously wrong12:33
RiddellArby: run-qt still uses a QApplication12:41
RiddellArby: running kde/jockey-kde does start up12:41
Arbyah, it'll be the run-qt script then, I know it starts12:42
Arbyaccording to the README it won't be accepted without a successful test12:42
Arbyso I need to modify the test script as well12:43
Arbyhmm, I know slightly less than nothing about unittests12:43
Arbythis could be ... ~interesting~12:43
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ArbyRiddell: I think I've fixed the test script.13:48
ArbyRiddell: could you take another look at https://code.launchpad.net/~rbirnie/jockey/jockey-kde4 and make sure it looks sane13:49
Arbyif it does I'll speak to pitti about getting it merged into the main branch13:49
ArbyRiddell: could you particularly look at the QTreeWidget piece. I don't really understand that bit13:50
Arbydoes it need it need to be converted to a PyKDE equivalent13:50
mhbhmm hmm13:53
mhbsomeone is messing with my code :o)13:53
* mhb ponders eating him, because that's what you do in a fairy tale13:53
mhbArby: perhaps not bypassing the actual author might be useful?13:54
mhbI find that offensive :o)13:54
Arbymhb: apologies I didn't know you were the author13:54
mhbArby: should have been written in that code :o)13:54
mhbArby: I'll be much more able to push the changes into the code13:55
mhbArby: please explain what have you patched and why13:55
mhbArby: hmm ,unfortunately, I have to leave now13:55
mhbArby: please do explain that, I'll respond once I get back, okay? Thank you so much!13:56
mhbsee you13:56
Arbymhb: I've converted it from PyQt to PyKDE because it's in the spec here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidKDE4Porting13:56
Arbymhb: essentially I've converted the PyQt widgets to PyKDE ones and changed the icon loading to use KIcon13:57
Arbymhb: I've also altered the tests/run-qt script to use KApplication instead of QApplication13:58
Arbymhb: my work so far is in a branch at https://code.launchpad.net/~rbirnie/jockey/jockey-kde413:58
Arbymhb: currently the kde front end loads and it passes the modifed version of run-qt as far as I understand14:00
Arbymhb: with the caveat that my knowledge of unittests is exactly zero14:00
Arbymhb: I've only looked at the jockey-kde file so far, I only just found your name in the Authors file14:02
Arbymhb: apologies for any offense caused, none was intended14:02
Seregahi there14:05
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mhbArby: it's okay, just please next time let me know what's going on with my code ... I can also help from time to time, you know :o)16:27
Arbymhb: I was just looking for something small to get into PyKDE if you'd prefer to work on it yourself then fair enough16:29
Arbymhb: the comments in the source suggest that you are intending to redesign it to use a model/view architecture anyway16:31
Arbyis that something that's likely to happen soon?16:31
ScottKmhb: Did you send me the klamav patch you did?16:32
mhbArby: if you want to do that, you're free to do so, I've got several weeks of exams now16:35
Arbymhb: I think it may be a long way over my head16:35
ArbyI tried looking at the Qt docs for Model/View and my brain started to melt16:35
mhbScottK: not yet... I tried to do the diff, but I somehow broke it, so I have to redo it16:35
Arbymhb: I'd have to learn Model/View from the ground up16:36
mhbI somehow applied the debian/patches and now it is not possible to unapply them, so they're semi-applied16:36
Arbymhb: which I don't mind doing if you're happy to give a little guidance on roughly how it should work16:36
mhbArby: it's something one should know anyway16:36
mhbArby: sure!16:36
ScottKmhb: OK.  No great rush.  Just checking to see if I'd missed it.16:37
Arbymhb: I can usually hack up things that work, making them work the *right* way is something I'm still learning16:37
mhbhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model-view-controller16:38
mhbthat is the theory behind it, have you read that?16:38
Arbymhb: just how big a job is it? it sounds like almost a complete rebuild16:38
Arbymhb: no, I have a lot of reading to do16:38
mhbit's only about the main window view16:38
mhbthe listview or whatever it is called16:39
Arbyok16:39
mhbI'd say three days work, if you understand both the theory and the way Qt4 is doing it.16:39
mhbI'm not very familiar with the Qt4 model, therefore I hacked it around before.16:40
Arbyso about 3 weeks in my case since I know neither of those16:40
Arbymhb: do you have any time to look over what I did so far just to check I'm not doing anything insane?16:41
Arbythere are a couple of things that I know are a bit hackish16:41
mhbsure16:41
mhblater in the evening, if you don't mind that16:42
Arbynot a problem, I have plenty to do/read16:42
Arbymainly it's the setting up of KAboutData, I'm sure I must be able to extract that from somewhere16:42
Arbybut anyway. ping me later when you're free16:43
ScottKIs it just me or do others find it annoying that the KDE bug tracker lists "Ubuntu packages" and not "Kubuntu packages" as a source of packages?18:39
* yuriy raises hand18:41
* ScottK wonders if it's been discussed with them.18:45
* ScottK figures Riddell knows.18:45
mhbArby: I'm present19:26
Arbymhb: welcome back19:26
mhbScottK: I'd say it is a low priority issue, trouble is, you'd have to convince a LP dev to fix that, right?19:27
mhband that is not so possible19:27
Arbymhb: two sets of questions really.19:27
Arbymhb: does the code for what I've done so far look sane?19:27
Arbyapart from the things I've mentioned in the comments as dubious19:27
Arbymhb: the second set is about model/view implementation but one thing at a time19:28
Arby(just getting the link to the branch)19:28
ScottKmhb: No.  This is the KDE bug tracker.19:29
Arbymhb: https://code.launchpad.net/~rbirnie/jockey/jockey-kde419:29
ScottKFor LP it's clearly hopeless.19:29
mhbScottK: ah19:29
mhbScottK: well, that could be fixed then19:29
mhbArby: hmm, I'll install Kubuntu and be there in a sec19:31
NightroseScottK: you could try emailing sysadmin at kde org and ask to have it changed19:35
* ScottK guesses it'd come better from Riddell.19:35
* ScottK will if no one else speaks up.19:36
ManiacHghhello! I have an issue with Kubuntu, evey time after automatic updates I get unresolved link simbols19:36
ManiacHghexperimentally I found that "sudo aptitude reinstall libqt3-mt kdelibs4c2a" helps to get system back to normal19:36
ManiacHgh this time I had missing sybmos in  libqt3-mt with link C++ mangled name19:36
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ManiacHghI have repored bug 161379 to bugs.kde.org with same issue19:47
ubottuManiacHgh: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out19:47
ScottKKDE bug 16137919:53
ubottuKDE bug 161379 in ICQ and AIM Plugins "hide "cancel" button in dialog which just shows user info" [Wishlist,Resolved: invalid] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16137919:53
ManiacHghhm. I misspelled bug ID?19:58
ManiacHghKDE bug 16147919:59
ubottuKDE bug 161479 in general "multiple unresolved symbols in kde libraries" [Crash,Resolved: invalid] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16147919:59
ManiacHghI am sure it is kubuntu/pakaging related issue20:00
ManiacHghcan it happen because traces of KDE4 are left in system, and ldd processes wrong libraries after update?20:01
ManiacHghI have execuded "ldd -r" over bin folder. there are a lot of unresolved symbols.20:57
ManiacHghhttp://pastebin.com/m2bf9354320:57
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RiddellScottK: I don't mind either way, it was dfaure that set it originally21:28
vorianwhere can I find the latest KDE 4 files for debian/cdbs :)22:21
* vorian waves too22:21
ryanakcaRiddell: since you're kguitar's last uploader, why do we run dh_iconcache but Debian doesn't?23:07
crimsunbecause dh_iconcache existed in Ubuntu prior to being added to Debian23:13
crimsunit now exists in debhelper v6+ as dh_icons23:13
ryanakcacrimsun: ah, ok23:50
crimsun(there's an upstream component that requires GTK+ 2.12)23:51

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