[00:18] <seele> DaskreecH: which one?
[00:19] <seele> yikes.. my admin is going to kill me
[00:19] <seele> i should have known better than to post pictures on the server..
[00:20]  * seele yawns again
[00:20] <seele> want to sleeeeep..
[00:20] <nosrednaekim> nice pics.... who's the dude with the ponytail?
[00:20] <nosrednaekim> seele: ^^
[00:20] <seele> scott wheeler, another kdeer
[00:22] <DaskreecH> Kdeer?
[00:22] <nosrednaekim> ah
[00:23] <nosrednaekim> KDE'r
[00:23] <DaskreecH> does that have Kveal?
[00:23] <nosrednaekim> heh
[09:32] <Arby> Riddell: around?
[09:36] <Riddell> hi Arby
[09:36] <Arby> Riddell: I have a working-ish  kde4 port of jockey, if I put the branch up on lp do you have time to take a look?
[09:37] <Arby> it's still work in progress
[09:37] <Arby> current it runs but fails the unit tests in ways I don't understand
[09:37] <Riddell> mm, I don't understand those unit tests either
[09:38] <Riddell> but can try
[09:38] <Arby> and is it worth giving pitti a heads up since he seems to be the main jockey person
[09:38] <Arby> OK I'll put it up
[09:38] <Arby> when I've looked up how
[09:44] <Riddell> bzr push ...
[09:46] <Arby> Riddell: I know but launchpad is throwing ssh errors
[09:46] <Arby> could be a problem with my key
[09:55] <Riddell> Arby: what url are you pushing to?
[09:55] <Arby> Riddell: got it now
[09:56] <Arby> it was my key that was faulty
[09:56] <Arby> Riddell: it should now be at https://code.launchpad.net/~rbirnie/jockey/jockey-kde4
[09:57] <Arby> the command I used was bzr push bzr+ssh://rbirnie@bazaar.launchpad.net/~rbirnie/jockey/jockey-kde4
[09:59] <Arby> currently the unittests fail with http://paste.ubuntu.com/14745/
[10:00] <Arby> I think this is related to the KAboutData object I created to keep KCmdLineArgs happy
[10:00] <Arby> if this is not the right way to do it let me know
[10:02] <Arby> Riddell: I have to go out for a while now. Leave any comments here or e-mail me and I'll be back this afternoon.
[10:05] <Riddell> ah, slight problem, no pykde on this machine
[10:34] <Riddell> jr@lichts:~/src/jockey-kde4>./tests/run-qt
[10:34] <Riddell> Fatal error: you need to have a KComponentData object
[12:33] <Arby>  Riddell: well at least you get the same result I do that's a start
[12:33] <Arby> any idea what would cause it, am I doing anything obviously wrong
[12:41] <Riddell> Arby: run-qt still uses a QApplication
[12:41] <Riddell> Arby: running kde/jockey-kde does start up
[12:42] <Arby> ah, it'll be the run-qt script then, I know it starts
[12:42] <Arby> according to the README it won't be accepted without a successful test
[12:43] <Arby> so I need to modify the test script as well
[12:43] <Arby> hmm, I know slightly less than nothing about unittests
[12:43] <Arby> this could be ... ~interesting~
[13:48] <Arby> Riddell: I think I've fixed the test script.
[13:49] <Arby> Riddell: could you take another look at https://code.launchpad.net/~rbirnie/jockey/jockey-kde4 and make sure it looks sane
[13:49] <Arby> if it does I'll speak to pitti about getting it merged into the main branch
[13:50] <Arby> Riddell: could you particularly look at the QTreeWidget piece. I don't really understand that bit
[13:50] <Arby> does it need it need to be converted to a PyKDE equivalent
[13:53] <mhb> hmm hmm
[13:53] <mhb> someone is messing with my code :o)
[13:53]  * mhb ponders eating him, because that's what you do in a fairy tale
[13:54] <mhb> Arby: perhaps not bypassing the actual author might be useful?
[13:54] <mhb> I find that offensive :o)
[13:54] <Arby> mhb: apologies I didn't know you were the author
[13:54] <mhb> Arby: should have been written in that code :o)
[13:55] <mhb> Arby: I'll be much more able to push the changes into the code
[13:55] <mhb> Arby: please explain what have you patched and why
[13:55] <mhb> Arby: hmm ,unfortunately, I have to leave now
[13:56] <mhb> Arby: please do explain that, I'll respond once I get back, okay? Thank you so much!
[13:56] <mhb> see you
[13:56] <Arby> mhb: I've converted it from PyQt to PyKDE because it's in the spec here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidKDE4Porting
[13:57] <Arby> mhb: essentially I've converted the PyQt widgets to PyKDE ones and changed the icon loading to use KIcon
[13:58] <Arby> mhb: I've also altered the tests/run-qt script to use KApplication instead of QApplication
[13:58] <Arby> mhb: my work so far is in a branch at https://code.launchpad.net/~rbirnie/jockey/jockey-kde4
[14:00] <Arby> mhb: currently the kde front end loads and it passes the modifed version of run-qt as far as I understand
[14:00] <Arby> mhb: with the caveat that my knowledge of unittests is exactly zero
[14:02] <Arby> mhb: I've only looked at the jockey-kde file so far, I only just found your name in the Authors file
[14:02] <Arby> mhb: apologies for any offense caused, none was intended
[14:05] <Serega> hi there
[16:27] <mhb> Arby: it's okay, just please next time let me know what's going on with my code ... I can also help from time to time, you know :o)
[16:29] <Arby> mhb: I was just looking for something small to get into PyKDE if you'd prefer to work on it yourself then fair enough
[16:31] <Arby> mhb: the comments in the source suggest that you are intending to redesign it to use a model/view architecture anyway
[16:31] <Arby> is that something that's likely to happen soon?
[16:32] <ScottK> mhb: Did you send me the klamav patch you did?
[16:35] <mhb> Arby: if you want to do that, you're free to do so, I've got several weeks of exams now
[16:35] <Arby> mhb: I think it may be a long way over my head
[16:35] <Arby> I tried looking at the Qt docs for Model/View and my brain started to melt
[16:35] <mhb> ScottK: not yet... I tried to do the diff, but I somehow broke it, so I have to redo it
[16:36] <Arby> mhb: I'd have to learn Model/View from the ground up
[16:36] <mhb> I somehow applied the debian/patches and now it is not possible to unapply them, so they're semi-applied
[16:36] <Arby> mhb: which I don't mind doing if you're happy to give a little guidance on roughly how it should work
[16:36] <mhb> Arby: it's something one should know anyway
[16:36] <mhb> Arby: sure!
[16:37] <ScottK> mhb: OK.  No great rush.  Just checking to see if I'd missed it.
[16:37] <Arby> mhb: I can usually hack up things that work, making them work the *right* way is something I'm still learning
[16:38] <mhb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model-view-controller
[16:38] <mhb> that is the theory behind it, have you read that?
[16:38] <Arby> mhb: just how big a job is it? it sounds like almost a complete rebuild
[16:38] <Arby> mhb: no, I have a lot of reading to do
[16:38] <mhb> it's only about the main window view
[16:39] <mhb> the listview or whatever it is called
[16:39] <Arby> ok
[16:39] <mhb> I'd say three days work, if you understand both the theory and the way Qt4 is doing it.
[16:40] <mhb> I'm not very familiar with the Qt4 model, therefore I hacked it around before.
[16:40] <Arby> so about 3 weeks in my case since I know neither of those
[16:41] <Arby> mhb: do you have any time to look over what I did so far just to check I'm not doing anything insane?
[16:41] <Arby> there are a couple of things that I know are a bit hackish
[16:41] <mhb> sure
[16:42] <mhb> later in the evening, if you don't mind that
[16:42] <Arby> not a problem, I have plenty to do/read
[16:42] <Arby> mainly it's the setting up of KAboutData, I'm sure I must be able to extract that from somewhere
[16:43] <Arby> but anyway. ping me later when you're free
[18:39] <ScottK> Is it just me or do others find it annoying that the KDE bug tracker lists "Ubuntu packages" and not "Kubuntu packages" as a source of packages?
[18:41]  * yuriy raises hand
[18:45]  * ScottK wonders if it's been discussed with them.
[18:45]  * ScottK figures Riddell knows.
[19:26] <mhb> Arby: I'm present
[19:26] <Arby> mhb: welcome back
[19:27] <mhb> ScottK: I'd say it is a low priority issue, trouble is, you'd have to convince a LP dev to fix that, right?
[19:27] <mhb> and that is not so possible
[19:27] <Arby> mhb: two sets of questions really.
[19:27] <Arby> mhb: does the code for what I've done so far look sane?
[19:27] <Arby> apart from the things I've mentioned in the comments as dubious
[19:28] <Arby> mhb: the second set is about model/view implementation but one thing at a time
[19:28] <Arby> (just getting the link to the branch)
[19:29] <ScottK> mhb: No.  This is the KDE bug tracker.
[19:29] <Arby> mhb: https://code.launchpad.net/~rbirnie/jockey/jockey-kde4
[19:29] <ScottK> For LP it's clearly hopeless.
[19:29] <mhb> ScottK: ah
[19:29] <mhb> ScottK: well, that could be fixed then
[19:31] <mhb> Arby: hmm, I'll install Kubuntu and be there in a sec
[19:35] <Nightrose> ScottK: you could try emailing sysadmin at kde org and ask to have it changed
[19:35]  * ScottK guesses it'd come better from Riddell.
[19:36]  * ScottK will if no one else speaks up.
[19:36] <ManiacHgh> hello! I have an issue with Kubuntu, evey time after automatic updates I get unresolved link simbols
[19:36] <ManiacHgh> experimentally I found that "sudo aptitude reinstall libqt3-mt kdelibs4c2a" helps to get system back to normal
[19:36] <ManiacHgh>  this time I had missing sybmos in  libqt3-mt with link C++ mangled name
[19:47] <ManiacHgh> I have repored bug 161379 to bugs.kde.org with same issue
[19:53] <ScottK> KDE bug 161379
[19:58] <ManiacHgh> hm. I misspelled bug ID?
[19:59] <ManiacHgh> KDE bug 161479
[20:00] <ManiacHgh> I am sure it is kubuntu/pakaging related issue
[20:01] <ManiacHgh> can it happen because traces of KDE4 are left in system, and ldd processes wrong libraries after update?
[20:57] <ManiacHgh> I have execuded "ldd -r" over bin folder. there are a lot of unresolved symbols.
[20:57] <ManiacHgh> http://pastebin.com/m2bf93543
[21:28] <Riddell> ScottK: I don't mind either way, it was dfaure that set it originally
[22:21] <vorian> where can I find the latest KDE 4 files for debian/cdbs :)
[22:21]  * vorian waves too
[23:07] <ryanakca> Riddell: since you're kguitar's last uploader, why do we run dh_iconcache but Debian doesn't?
[23:13] <crimsun> because dh_iconcache existed in Ubuntu prior to being added to Debian
[23:13] <crimsun> it now exists in debhelper v6+ as dh_icons
[23:50] <ryanakca> crimsun: ah, ok
[23:51] <crimsun> (there's an upstream component that requires GTK+ 2.12)