[09:30] <ub4b> i'm testing a cutom 8.04 server image on 64b VmWare ESX 3.5, for some strange reason debina installer tries to configure PPPoE even though I have 'd-i netcfg/disable_dhcp boolean true' in my preseed file
[12:53] <ub4b> I removed ppp_2.4.4rel-9ubuntu2_amd64.deb and ppp-udeb_2.4.4rel-9ubuntu2_amd64.udeb from the CD and the PPPoE probing is gone :)
[14:08] <xivulon> evand
[14:08] <xivulon> ping
[14:16] <xivulon> summary: my preliminary tests (booting off the extracted ISO content and other mods) are ok, but had to add minor fixes to lupin/hardy.proposed as well to partman-auto-loop/hardy.proposed on top of casper/hardy.proposed
[14:17] <xivulon> all the 3 set of */hardy.proposed are required, it is not going to work otherwise
[14:17] <davmor2> xivulon: Quick wubi question.  Should m-a not kick in to transfer the windows settings across to the wubi install?  If so it isn't and do you want it reporting?
[14:18] <xivulon> davmor2: yes please, m-a should kick in at least for some settings
[14:18] <xivulon> by the way, were you at uds?
[14:19] <davmor2> No but I saw the wubi vid :)
[14:19] <xivulon> hehe
[14:19] <davmor2> I'm getting a passport application so I can get to the next one :)
[14:20] <xivulon> hope to see you then (or in london)
[14:20] <davmor2> In London?
[14:21] <xivulon> that is where I live
[14:21] <xivulon> so if you are around beer is on me :)
[14:22] <davmor2> Ah cool I'm in Wolverhampton so it's possible.  Are you coming to LugRadio Live?
[14:23] <greenwhich> helloes, sorry to trouble you:P
[14:24] <greenwhich> i became a ubuntero today
[14:24] <greenwhich> and i'm interesting in the isntaller dev
[14:25] <greenwhich> i'm not familiar with how to contribute to dev process
[14:25] <greenwhich> does anybody can help me somehow to join the team?;)
[14:27] <xivulon> possibly yes
[14:27] <xivulon> davmor2 ^
[14:28] <davmor2> So might see you then also :)
[14:28] <xivulon> greenwhich there is some doc on the wiki, one sec
[14:28] <greenwhich> aha
[14:29] <xivulon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallerDevelopment
[14:29] <greenwhich> i tried to join a instller launchpad team..but i guess it doesn't work so easy
[14:29] <greenwhich> ok
[14:29] <greenwhich> thx
[14:29] <xivulon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallerTeam
[14:31] <davmor2> xivulon: bug 234974 any info you need for it?
[14:31] <greenwhich> thx
[14:31] <davmor2> xivulon: No ubotu here's the link https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/234974
[14:36] <xivulon> davmor2 it helps if you (re)install in verbose mode, and then paste the tgz of /var/log/installer (after installation)
[14:37] <davmor2> xivulon: How do I set it to run in verbose mode?
[14:40] <davmor2> is it just a case of running wubi -v from cmd or something similar?
[14:45] <davmor2> xivulon: ^ I'll run it tomorrow anyway.
[14:45] <xivulon> davmor2 uninstall and reinstall, when you reboot press esc after ubuntu
[14:45] <xivulon> np
[14:47] <davmor2> xivulon: Right with you the Ubiquity installer rather than the wubi np's.
[14:47] <davmor2> I'll add the log to to the bug.
[14:50] <xivulon> davmor2: thx
[15:07] <cjwatson> greenwhich: the Launchpad team grants commit access, so normally we ask people to be established patch contributors before joining that team
[15:10] <greenwhich> cjwatson: mm,ok.it's clear.so how process works with guys like me, who just became a ubuntero and wants to help in development?
[15:23] <cjwatson> greenwhich: start fixing bugs that annoy you, and attach patches to bugs; ask if you need specific help
[15:23] <greenwhich> ok
[15:23] <cjwatson> simple as that really
[15:23] <greenwhich> thank you:)
[15:23] <greenwhich> yeah
[15:24] <cjwatson> (that's a good model for nearly all development projects; some differ a bit in one direction or another, but that's basically how it tends to work)
[15:24] <cjwatson> of course if you want to dive into feature development work then that's OK too, but it's usually better to work on improving what's there for a while before you attempt that
[15:25] <greenwhich> yep, agree
[15:25] <greenwhich> need to try it at first
[17:48] <highvoltage> hey. I have a custom ubuntu disc, can I stop ubiquity from downloading all the language packs afterwards?
[19:37] <andrea-bs> hi there! how can I disable the migration assistant from ubiquity?
[19:37] <highvoltage> andrea-bs: check ubiquity --help
[19:37] <highvoltage> andrea-bs: it has an option to disable it
[19:38] <highvoltage> andrea-bs: I just can't remember the exact option :)
[19:38] <andrea-bs> thank you, highvoltage
[19:38] <andrea-bs> it's --no-migration-assistant :)
[19:39] <highvoltage> that's it yes
[22:50] <foka> cjwatson, Here?
[22:51] <foka> cjwatson, http://www.unifoundry.com/unifont.html
[23:10] <cjwatson> foka: coo, thanks. I sent that link to Debian #218720
[23:12] <cjwatson> I'll send the Ubuntu patches his way too when I get a few minutes
[23:13] <foka> cjwatson, Cool!  :-)  Paul Hardy of Unifoundry sent an ITA and requested for help on debian-mentors, and I just happened to see that by happy accident.
[23:15] <foka> http://bugs.debian.org/356594
[23:16] <cjwatson> At some point I may be able to dig myself out from under openssh ...
[23:19] <foka> BTW, thank you for the speedy remedy to the SSH vulnerable key problem.  It must have been very hectic for you.
[23:21] <cjwatson> it's especially fun when such things are wedged in between company performance reviews and conference organisation
[23:26] <foka> No doubt eh, but I'm glad you pulled it through.  Not easy at all.
[23:26] <cjwatson> and with http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-changes/2008/05/msg02311.html there's no sign of it slowing down ;-)
[23:26] <cjwatson> yeah, one of those things you have no choice but to deal with one way or another; definitely the worst vulnerability I've seen in my time
[23:27] <foka> Sorry, I gave you the wrong link.  Here is the ITA message on debian-mentors... (I don't know what his ITA bug number is though... not filed under wnpp...)
[23:27] <foka> http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2008/05/msg00502.html
[23:28] <foka> Yes, it is pretty shocking, and I bet many people still don't know about it.  (e.g. novice system admins in China who don't read news or seldom upgrade their systems...)
[23:29] <foka> Oh my, that's a very long changelog!
[23:32] <foka> Thank you for the great effort you put into fixing this.  I see you have taken extraordinary measures to remedy this major vulnerability.  (Yes, I agree with you: It is the most widespread and the worst)
[23:32] <cjwatson> next step is to take further measures to force people to upgrade, like having the client refuse to send blacklisted keys as well