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| dholbach | good morning | 06:11 |
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| === stgraber1 is now known as stgraber | ||
| m14 | hello | 13:44 |
| Keybuk | I don't seem to be having much luck with the current daily | 13:44 |
| Keybuk | I downloaded /moblin/hardy/mccaslin_samsungq1ultrafull/20080526/*.img, wrote it to a USB key and booted the Q1 | 13:45 |
| Keybuk | it's stuck at "will mount root from /dev/sdb" and not doing anything else | 13:45 |
| m14 | i have old compaq pocket pc 3800, is it posible install ubuntu mobile on it ? | 13:45 |
| persia | m14: Only lpia is supported for now. There might be ARM in the future, but the 3800 might be too slow. | 13:47 |
| m14 | persia: i thought so, but was wondering if it is posible. tnx for info m8 | 13:47 |
| lool | Keybuk: Could you try pressing esc during boot? | 14:36 |
| lool | Keybuk: Check where it boots from the boot menu | 14:37 |
| lool | Keybuk: My BIOS version says 03ME in the Main BIOS menu | 14:37 |
| lool | Keybuk: What about yours? | 14:37 |
| suihkulokki | is the arm meeting doc in wiki yet? | 14:38 |
| lool | My BIOS boot order is USB CDROM, USB KEY, USB HDD, IDE HDD, ... | 14:38 |
| lool | suihkulokki: It should | 14:38 |
| * lool searches | 14:39 | |
| suihkulokki | I tried searching and failed | 14:39 |
| Keybuk | lool: booting off the USB key doesn't seem to be problem, it does that just fine | 14:39 |
| Keybuk | it's that the installer on the USB key never appears | 14:40 |
| lool | suihkulokki: I failed too | 14:41 |
| lool | suihkulokki: And I failed finding it in gobby as well | 14:42 |
| lool | Suckage | 14:42 |
| lool | I think IS have hourly backups | 14:42 |
| lool | Keybuk: I was hoping that perhaps some BIOS drive mappings might explain why it isn't working on your side | 14:43 |
| lool | I'm rsyncing the latest image in the mean time | 14:43 |
| Keybuk | lool: 03ME | 14:43 |
| lool | Keybuk: How did you write the image BTW? | 14:43 |
| lool | dd? image-creator? | 14:43 |
| Keybuk | my order is USB CDROM, USB HDD, IDE HDD, USB KEY, USB FDC, PCI BEV | 14:43 |
| Keybuk | with ZIP and LS120 excluded | 14:43 |
| Keybuk | lool: dd | 14:43 |
| lool | Keybuk: USB KEY should be higher I guess | 14:43 |
| Keybuk | lool: usb key is ? | 14:44 |
| lool | Keybuk: You dded on /dev/sdN, not sdN<digit> I suppose? | 14:44 |
| Keybuk | lool: no, sdb1 | 14:44 |
| lool | Keybuk: You should be dding on /dev/sdb and booting on USB key | 14:44 |
| lool | USB key is well, an USB key; I don't understand your question | 14:44 |
| lool | It's a flash dongle | 14:44 |
| lool | Dunno whether that's an americanism | 14:45 |
| Keybuk | ok, let me try to sdb | 14:45 |
| Keybuk | we call usb storage devices that fit on a keyring "USB keys" | 14:45 |
| Keybuk | but the Q1 seems to call those USB HDDs | 14:45 |
| lool | I also wondered about USB keys versus USB HDDs | 14:45 |
| lool | Keybuk: What would USB KEY in the Q1's bios then be? | 14:46 |
| Keybuk | no idea | 14:46 |
| Keybuk | it just says "Not installed" :) | 14:46 |
| lool | Perhaps it has heuristics to support some other USB ids which is assigned to USB keys; I thought everything was mass storage | 14:47 |
| persia | Is the Q1 that different? The SR8 just boots off any mass-storage, and always mounts the first found mass-storage device as /dev/sdb (assuming no partitioning, as with the images) | 14:50 |
| Keybuk | lool: ok, trying with image just written to sdb | 14:51 |
| lool | <drums> | 14:52 |
| Keybuk | this seems to be making filesystems | 14:52 |
| lool | Keybuk: There's a different image which is called "liverw" which you can get by typing boot=usb in the boot menu, it will probably work from the image you have | 14:53 |
| lool | the difference is that it boots from USB and only that | 14:53 |
| Keybuk | ok, all seems to work now | 15:01 |
| lool | Cool | 15:04 |
| === shelbyscates is now known as mesaynaysayer | ||
| mesaynaysayer | hello? | 18:12 |
| mesaynaysayer | can someone help me? | 18:12 |
| mesaynaysayer | i have a question :) | 18:12 |
| mesaynaysayer | i want to buy an mid | 18:13 |
| mesaynaysayer | but i want to know what kind you reccomend for runnning ubuntu mobile on it | 18:13 |
| mesaynaysayer | anyone? | 18:13 |
| mesaynaysayer | like, what mid has everyone been having the highest level of suceess using ubuntu mobile on? | 18:15 |
| mesaynaysayer | pleaae excuse my n00bishness im 13 :( | 18:15 |
| persia | mesaynaysayer: The only device that is commonly available with significant testing of Ubuntu Mobile is the Samsung Q1 Ultra, and I wouldn't recommend it. | 18:16 |
| mesaynaysayer | hhhmmm..... | 18:17 |
| persia | You'll do better to either wait for future devices, or be prepared to do your own hacking. | 18:17 |
| mesaynaysayer | well, i might be able to do a little bit | 18:17 |
| mesaynaysayer | what sort of hacking? | 18:17 |
| persia | Personally, I've tried it on the Kohjinsha SR8, and know others who have tried it on similar subnotebooks, but it's designed too small for that. There's not yet a lot of products out there in the 4-6" target screen size. | 18:18 |
| mesaynaysayer | ah | 18:18 |
| persia | Mostly configuration hacks to make it work with your hardware. X config stuff, running depmod -a to improve boot time, assigning the hardware buttons, etc. | 18:18 |
| mesaynaysayer | that dosent sound too hard | 18:19 |
| mesaynaysayer | i mean, im not a total n00b] | 18:19 |
| mesaynaysayer | i started using linux when i was 9 : | 18:19 |
| mesaynaysayer | :P* | 18:19 |
| mesaynaysayer | but, ubuntu mobile does work very well on the samsung q1 ultra? | 18:20 |
| persia | mesaynaysayer: Well, insofar as the samsung q1 ultra is a useful device, yes. | 18:20 |
| mesaynaysayer | so why wouldnt you reccomend it? | 18:21 |
| mesaynaysayer | is it as far as just the device isnt very good? ::p | 18:21 |
| persia | Mostly, I don't like the keyboard. It's also too big for my pocket. | 18:21 |
| mesaynaysayer | ah | 18:23 |
| mesaynaysayer | hhhmmm.... | 18:23 |
| mesaynaysayer | i dont like they keyboard either :\ | 18:23 |
| mesaynaysayer | did you say something about the kohjinsha sr8 working ok? | 18:23 |
| persia | mesaynaysayer: Yep. I run it on an SR8. Needs hacks for X and the application buttons, but works otherwise. On the other hand, I think the SR8 is too large a device to really benefit from Ubuntu-Mobile. | 18:24 |
| persia | The SR8 also runs stock Ubuntu, and it's just large enough that this is almost bearable. Ideally, there's something between -desktop and -mobile for that class of devices. | 18:25 |
| mesaynaysayer | yeah | 18:27 |
| mesaynaysayer | i dont suppose anyone has had luck with any nokia mid's have they | 18:27 |
| persia | ubuntu-mobile is currently lpia only. Nokia's devices run on ARM. | 18:28 |
| mesaynaysayer | see, i just got on summer vacation, and i want a little project to have fun with and leave me with a really cool device once school starts back | 18:28 |
| mesaynaysayer | ah i see | 18:28 |
| mesaynaysayer | well, all i want is kind of a little computer to maintain my servers and do other stuff with when im out and about. | 18:29 |
| mesaynaysayer | hhhhhhmmm... | 18:29 |
| persia | mesaynaysayer: There are a few preannounced products, just not much shipping. Take a look at the comparison page at www.umpcportal.com/products for some of the options. Note that I've yet to find something retail that is both lpia and pocketable. | 18:31 |
| mesaynaysayer | thanks | 18:34 |
| mesaynaysayer | you guys always help me :) | 18:35 |
| mesaynaysayer | im thinking something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Tablet_OS on a nokia 810 | 18:39 |
| mesaynaysayer | n810* | 18:41 |
| mesaynaysayer | hey i have one more question | 18:52 |
| lool | persia: I'd be curious to know -- if you get your touchscreen to work -- whether the initial flash movie would be more easily scrolled on your device | 18:52 |
| mesaynaysayer | if i get a mid with gps straight out of the box | 18:53 |
| lool | On both devices I tried on, it was almost unpossible to trigger the movie's rotation | 18:53 |
| mesaynaysayer | will gps only work like the map feature if i subscribe to something or does it work unconditionally? | 18:53 |
| persia | lool: Initial flash movie? Is this a different image? | 18:53 |
| lool | mesaynaysayer: We currently don't include gps software, but you can add packages to it | 18:53 |
| lool | mesaynaysayer: Some are GPS daemons which will record the coordinates or show them on a map | 18:54 |
| lool | But we don't ship maps as the ones you'd find on proprietary devices | 18:54 |
| lool | persia: Well you might have seen one at UDS, and there also was one before the "HTML grid view" which was in flash, by Intel | 18:54 |
| lool | It's still around I think; I'm not sure it still works in UME, but I think MSG people still get it to run | 18:55 |
| persia | lool: I did see that. Looked kinda like the interface on my 922SH. | 18:55 |
| lool | Ah my wife just showed me how my diner plate looked like, and I could also smell how it would taste, so I'm off for diner! | 18:55 |
| * persia collapses, to return to find out more about this flash thing another day | 18:56 | |
| mesaynaysayer | ah | 19:01 |
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