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shirishdoes anybody know how can I install gnash on icecat?06:33
asachi07:57
MechtiIdeasac, ping08:31
asacMechtiIde: hi08:47
MechtiIdehello Alexander08:47
MechtiIdedo you speak German? asac08:48
asacMechtiIde: yeah, but not in this channel :) and these things are good for publ08:49
asacic08:49
asaciirc it is https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~saivann/ who prepared the last update of sunbird locales08:50
asache regularly pops in this channel08:51
MechtiIdeMy question is how can we integrate the locales in the iceowl-extension in Debian08:51
asacyes, i know :-D08:51
MechtiIdeI saw that in ubuntu there is version 0.7 and in dEbian/sid 0.808:51
asaci think the sunbird-locales package does that08:51
ftahi08:52
asacdid someone upload a broken package to debian08:52
asac?08:52
ftaasac, http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Road_Map_To_XULRunner08:52
asachi fta08:52
MechtiIdeMy Intension is: many user of OpenOffice.org want something like Outlook08:52
MechtiIdeAnd we prefer to use Thunderbird/Lightning08:52
asacMechtiIde: prefer over what?08:52
MechtiIdeasac, the sunbird-locales depends on sunbird (For Debian: iceowl-locales depends on iceowl and doesn't except iceowl-extension08:53
asachmm08:54
MechtiIdeI think this must be possible also when someone use Debian08:54
MechtiIdeI don't want that the Debian user must install the upstream to use the whole functionality08:55
asacMechtiIde: i agree08:55
MechtiIdeI try to describe it in english. I know it is very difficult for me to describe such a complex theme08:55
asacactually i thought that that was done already08:56
MechtiIdeif I look on packages.debian.org for iceowl08:56
MechtiIdeI find the l10n-packages (lenny/sid) for iceowl and not for the iceowl-extension08:57
asacMechtiIde: try to ln -s /usr/lib/sunbird/extensions/langpack-de@sunbird.mozilla.org /usr/lib/thunderbird/extensions/08:57
asacand add thunderbird with the proper versioning as  a target app to /usr/lib/sunbird/extensions/langpack-de@sunbird.mozilla.org08:58
MechtiIdethen I must also install iceowl beside iceowl-extension?08:58
asac /install.rdf08:58
asacno08:58
asacfirst see if you can use them for iceowl-extension08:59
asacif that works we have to fix the packaging08:59
asacaka link it properly08:59
asacadd proper target application08:59
asacfix Depends so it doesnt require you to install iceowl08:59
MechtiIdeIf I want to install  iceowl-l10n-de I must also install iceowl08:59
asacyeah for now08:59
asactry what i said above08:59
MechtiIdeI'm not a developer, only a user09:00
asacthen you cannot help ;)09:00
asacfile a bug09:00
MechtiIdeI don't understand why you have a "@" in a path09:00
asacagainst iceowl-locales09:00
asacand sunbird-locales09:01
asace.g. "please support iceowl-extension"09:01
asacsaivaan will probably take care09:01
MechtiIdeok I will do it09:01
asacthanks09:01
MechtiIdeI saw there is already a Bugreport09:04
MechtiIde#43629709:04
MechtiIdeThe other extension I described was enigmail. There it is possible to use the locales from the upstream extension09:06
MechtiIdeasac09:13
MechtiIdeI miss my comment from yesterday to this issue09:13
MechtiIdeThe mail you have aswer with the hint to this channel09:14
asacMechtiIde: enigmail was discussed with others as well09:14
asacmost likely we will drop locale packages completely09:14
asacand just ship translations in-package09:14
asacfta: why did you test the .head patch in hardy? hardy is not affected09:14
asace.g. hunspell is 1.109:14
asacanyway thanks09:15
MechtiIdeHow must I address the comment that it is published under the Number #43629709:16
MechtiIdeor do you have the mail adress of saivaan then I can send him a copy09:17
MechtiIdeasac, so what can I do to push it a bit09:21
asacMechtiIde: as a user there is not much you can do09:22
asacfiling bug and prodding the folks regularly is pretty much what you can do09:22
asacwhich you are already doing09:22
MechtiIdeMy comment from yesterday I can't see in the Bug description09:22
MechtiIdeso what is wrong09:22
asacthe mail has to go to BUGID@bugs.debian.org09:22
asacthats all09:22
MechtiIdeand what must I do?09:23
asacsend a mail09:23
MechtiIdeto??09:23
asacinclude proper subject (e.g. bug title)09:23
asacthe email address above09:23
asac BUGID@bugs.debian.org09:23
MechtiIdethat's what I did09:24
fta_asac, well, if we can use the .head branch for both a little longer, why not.09:24
asacMechtiIde: then maybe you got spam filtered ... no idea09:25
asacfta_: no idea. dont feel good about it. most likely it will be applied for 3.0.1 anyway. so its not really diverged09:26
fta_here, it doesn't hurt, there's no code change09:28
asacill think about it09:28
asaci already uploaded .hardy 122 to hardy-proposed ... so if we resync then for final09:29
asacfta_: can you merge .head to .dev?09:29
asacplease rebump time so we get a clear RELEASE commit on dev09:29
asacor release on .dev and merge that commit to .head09:30
asaclet me know so i can upload xul 1.9 to intrepid :)09:30
asaci think everything is blocked on that there atm09:31
asacfta_: ah ... and please cherry pick the Breaks: commit from .hardy branch to .head09:34
asacfta_: that should be 12109:35
asacif you find any other app that needs a respin let me know. miro worked here without respinning09:36
asacliferea works too09:40
asacdarn ... xul 1.9 hardy branch doesnt update on code.launchpad.net09:52
asacshould be 122 not 12009:52
asacfta_: if you need it, cherry pick 121 through bzr+ssh09:52
asaci definitly pushed it09:52
armin76where's rc1!1!1! :D10:12
asacuploaded :)10:17
fta2<asac>  uploaded :) <= what ? where ?10:21
asacto proposed10:22
asacintrepid was technically already uploaded ;)10:22
asacfta_: wanna cherry pick the Breaks commit and merge that as RELEASE to .dev ?10:23
fta2yep10:24
asaclet me know10:24
asacfta_: you can rename the last changelog as it was never build10:24
asacotherwise i have to remember to include the previous one in .changes10:24
asac:)10:24
asacfta_: according to launchpad folks the commit is also on http ... the website sync is just broken10:26
asaccherry pick 122 from .hardy10:26
asacjimmy_: cwong1: wake up ;)10:27
fta2i know, code.lp was already broken yesterday. but bazaar.lp is ok, even on ssh10:27
asaci need to release midbrowser :-P10:27
asacyep10:27
asacwell ... ssh is naturally ok because that accesses the non-mirrored place10:27
asacfta_: btw, did you ever come back to the party?10:37
asacor did you go home right after dinner?10:37
fta2i've been there for a while. we went to dinner and after that we've visited the TV tower with the babies10:43
asacfta_: he? you went to dinner right when we arrived, didn't you?10:53
asacat least reed did iirc10:54
fta2i shoud have said little while, i'm not fond of that kind of places anymore10:54
fta2but i understand people like that :)10:55
fta2saturday, the weather was great, at last10:56
asacfta_: well... the band was cool11:15
asacbug #23141013:06
ubottuasac: Bug 231410 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/231410 is private13:06
fta2asac, xul.head already has Breaks: epiphany-gecko (<< 2.22.1.1-0ubuntu1.8.04.1)13:14
asacfta2: yes, but 122 adds more13:15
asacjust try merge -c 12213:15
asacbug 21572813:16
ubottuasac: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out13:16
fta2hm, it's already merged.13:19
fta2xul.head #263 => 263: Alexander Sack 2008-05-22 * pull 'RELEASE 1.9~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 to ubuntu/intrepid' from13:19
asacfta2: its merged yes.13:23
asacfta2: the idea is that you add a new release13:23
asacubuntu213:23
fta2but i already have thatr13:23
fta2http://paste.ubuntu.com/14769/13:24
fta2should I just close ubuntu2 and merge into .dev ?13:25
fta2unless you have something to add13:25
asacfta2: you dont have the Breaks: ?13:26
asacfrom .hardy13:26
asacthats what i asked for13:26
asacthats 122 on .hardy branch13:26
asaclunch now13:26
fta2oh, from *.hardy ! I checked from *.dev13:35
fta2bug 23392213:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 233922 in xulrunner-1.9 "[new-upstream] Firefox 3.0 RC1 is available" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23392213:45
fta2asac, done. xul dev and head13:51
fta2feel free to push xul.dev (124) to intrepid13:51
asacyup14:26
asacfta2: you dropped the breaks changelog changes?14:28
asacwanna readd them in rc1?14:28
asac  * 1.9b5 to 1.9rc1 upgrade Breaks: epiphany-gecko (<< 2.22.1.1-0ubuntu1.8.04.1)14:28
asac    - update debian/control14:28
asacthats the line i added it too on .hardy14:28
fta2did i ? i don't think so. epiphany-gecko is in rc1 ubuntu1, yelp and the rest in ubuntu214:29
asacok14:30
asackeep the credits :-P14:30
asacjk14:30
fta2oh, sorry, i mentioned cherry pick14:30
fta2for once i used dch14:31
asacyeah ... one can still give credits in cherry pick changelog entries ;)14:31
asaci dont mind though14:31
asacbuilding14:32
asacok uploaded14:35
asacfta2: is bug 209607 reproducible for you?14:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 209607 in firefox-3.0 "Open file with external application broken" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20960714:40
asacBug 22335714:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 223357 in firefox-3.0 ""print selection Only" does not work in firefox3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22335714:45
asacbug 22050414:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 220504 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox doesn't know what apps to use to open any type of downloaded files (dup-of: 209607)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22050414:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 209607 in firefox-3.0 "Open file with external application broken" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20960714:46
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asacfta2: do we have the right cairo hardy-proposed?15:04
armin76bumb cairo!15:12
asacarmin76: you obviously have too much time ... wait15:16
asacyou are using gentoo :-P15:16
fta2i've merged cairo 2 weeks ago for intrepid, without the band-aid15:27
fta2but i need to work a bit more to fix ftbfs for some arches15:28
asacok15:28
fta2why do you want cairo hardy-proposed? 1.6.0 is not good enough ?15:28
asaci talked about hardy though15:28
asacfta2: we should use the version mozilla ships for final15:28
asacotherwise we will see rendering bugs that upstream doesnt see15:28
asacat least we should look what bugs were fixed since 1.6.015:29
fta2changes are minimal15:29
asacyeah. we should review them to be sure15:30
asacbug #21501615:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 215016 in liferea "Liferea (Hardy) crashes on startup" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21501615:31
armin76fails on hppa :P15:47
fta2http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14717619/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-hppa.xulrunner-1.9_1.9~rc1%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz15:47
fta2armin76, do you have a fix ?15:48
* armin76 blames asac 15:48
armin76nope15:48
asacfta2: look at mikes package15:48
asache might have a patch15:48
asacthough not in a patch system15:48
armin76its the same error as always, warnings being treated as errors :)15:48
asacbut most you can probably diff the appropriate hppa xpcom files15:49
asacarmin76: yeah right15:49
asacbut why is that only on hppa? is that 64 bit?15:49
armin76because hppa is picky like sparc15:50
armin76sparc will fail on the same way15:50
asacgood15:50
asacwell if its an alignment issue its good to fail i'd say15:50
armin76gimme a patch and i'll test, i have no clue how to fix that :P15:51
asac  // The internal storage15:57
asac  char mAutoBuf[sizeof(Impl) + (kAutoBufSize - 1) * sizeof(void*)];15:57
asaci dont understand why this is calced that way15:57
armin76hrm...16:02
armin76it could be related that you're using -Os?16:03
armin76because i wasn't able to reproduce it, but i'll try again16:03
fta2http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-firefox-3-rc1-in-ubuntu-hardy.html16:03
armin76woot, sparc compiled :D16:04
asacfta2: does he patch our package?16:10
asacfta2: If so we have to ask him to remove his packages immediately. He is certainly not allowed to distribute that with official marks16:11
fta2no, he just explains how to add my ppa to sources.list16:12
asacthats not good either16:13
asache tells them to add the ~adnarim thing16:13
fta2hm, i guess adnarim has nothing to do with that, it seems to me it's there for other purposes (unrelated to the post)16:14
fta2yep: https://edge.launchpad.net/~adnarim/+archive16:14
asacstill he appears to trick the users to use that archive16:15
fta2done16:24
asachuh?16:27
asacwhats done?16:28
armin76bumbed!16:28
fta2i've asked that guy to either hide/blur adnarim or to redo the screenshots16:28
asacfta2: he should use ~mozillateam for this release16:29
asacotherwise people will ride the lighning16:29
asaci posted that in comments too ... but awaits moderation16:29
armin76why ppl don't upgrade to gutsy16:29
armin76?16:29
fta2oh, ok, i don't mind16:29
asacarmin76: no idea ... feisty is like fawn16:30
fta2armin76, upgrade to gutsy ? you mean downgrade ? or what?17:19
fta2asac, are you sure your yelp << 2.22.1-0ubuntu2.8.04.1 is correct ??? intrepid has 2.22.1-0ubuntu2.. you should have used 2.22.1-0ubuntu2~8.04.117:29
fta2hardy-* should always be lower than intrepid17:30
asacfta2: no intrepid has ubuntu3 now17:31
asachttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/yelp/2.22.1-0ubuntu317:31
asaclast hardy upload was ubuntu217:32
asac2.8.04.1 is the correct SRU version17:32
fta2hm17:32
asachttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp/17:32
fta2ok17:33
armin76fta2: guess i meant upgrade to hardy :P17:33
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sebnerfta: I now also have a testcase :)21:02
ftasebner, ok21:02
sebnerfta: http://-kol.deviantart.com/21:02
ftahm, apparently, the dns seems to accept that, while according to RFC 2396, it does not seems to be valid21:04
sebnerfta: a user found this issue and asked me to ask one of you (seems to occur with every browser on linux but he said it's fixable in the /etc/hosts)21:04
sebnerfta: but he told me it's working on windows and mac with the broswers21:05
ftaeven with firefox (win and mac) ?21:06
sebnerfta: he told me, yes. So it seems its not a bug in firefox but an issue with linux21:07
ftai can see firefox doing the dns lookup, it's just fine21:08
sebnerfta: I will ask him what he has done in the /etc/hosts to fix this21:09
sebnerfta: RC1 is pretty fast. nice job =)21:16
ftawell, it's mostly upstream work :)21:17
sebnerfta: sure but the packaging is apparently not that easy ;)21:17
ftaindeed21:17
sebnerasac: also congratz to you :)21:18
ftai can't find a related bug in bugzilla for this http://-foo21:20
sebnerfta: as I said. may be a linux issue21:20
ftaeven so, upstream doesn't seem to be aware of it21:22
ftasebner, do we have a bug on lp for that ? if not, could you please file one ?21:24
sebnerfta: I could but I'm not really sure if this is a real bug, maybe it's a security feature on linux. dunno21:25
ftai don't think so. try: host -a -- -kol.deviantart.com21:25
ftain a shell21:26
sebnerfta: hmm. then it's the question if this URL is valid21:27
Jazzvafta: Remember that assembler assignment I had for school? I had been doing it for the most part of the last week and it's done. Now I did some beautification of code, although it's not so pretty yet. But it's working well :)...21:28
Jazzva(now i finished last code checking and preparing the report on it for tomorrow)21:28
ftasebner, URI are defined in RFC 239621:29
ftaJazzva, i read your blog :)21:29
sebnerfta: so?21:29
Jazzvafta: You do? Didn't know that :)...21:29
ftaJazzva, yes, read your post about that, excellent21:30
ftasebner, quick read yesterday, i was convinced it's invalid21:31
sebnerbut?21:31
Jazzvafta: Thanks :)... I suppose I'll get maximum points on it. I don't think I missed something. Ok, back to report :)21:31
ftasebner, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14888/21:36
ftasebner, i've pointed 2 lines21:36
fta34 and 3521:37
sebnerso it's allowed21:37
ftano, it has to start with alpha or alphanum21:37
ftaand end to21:38
ftathe "-" is not allowed in 1st or last positions21:38
sebnerok21:38
sebnerthen it's not a bug21:38
ftaI'd say DNS permits it, URI doesn't21:39
ftabut that's just my interpretation21:39
sebnerfta: so linux(/etc/hosts) is so strict and windows/mac not?21:42
VolansHi all :)21:42
fta /etc/hosts is used by the resolver, hence it's DNS rules. browser are parsing URIs, then they do a DNS lookup. here, it seems ff is doing the "-foo" lookup and it receives the correct answer, then it displays an error. Have to look at the code21:44
sebnerfta: but I was told that it occurs on every browser on linux and fixable through /etc/hosts21:45
ftai'd be curious to know how. if it's just -foo => foo then http://foo, it only works without virtual hosts21:47
sebnerfta: I'll tell you tomorrow but this solution seems to be the only one21:47
ftaok21:49
ftai just don't understand why someone would want a hostname like that but well, why not.21:49
sebnerfta: dunno ^^ but it's working on windows so maybe people expect it to work also on linux but now is the question if we want that21:50
ftahm, annex B doesn't match annex A21:55
ftafta@ix:~ $ perl -e '$_ = "http://-kol.deviantart.com/"; m,^(([^:/?#]+):)?(//([^/?#]*))?([^?#]*)(\?([^#]*))?(#(.*))?,; print $4."\n";'21:55
fta-kol.deviantart.com21:55
ftathat RFC is bogus ;)21:55
sebnerfta: Sry I'm a total n00b in these things. what does this mean?21:56
ftathe BNF (grammar) wants the hostname part of the URI to both start and end with an alphanum, while the regexp in annex B allows it to contain anything anywhere except '/', '?' and '#'21:58
ftamost likely the regexp is wrong (ie too simple)21:59
ftai'm referring to http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2396.html21:59
sebnerfta: ah, k. so no bug =)22:00
ftaasac, what do you think of this ? ^^22:01
sebnerfta: we should inform microsoft and apple :P22:01
ftamozilla bug 35518122:29
ubottuMozilla bug 355181 in Networking "net_IsValidHostName() comment says one thing, code does another" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35518122:29
sebnerfta: ahhh!! so what does this mean? ^^22:30
ftadonno yet, reading code22:31
sebnerfta: I mean the bug report. It's about this issue22:34
ftayes, the code is doing something like the regexp above, ie just looking at allowed chars, no particular order22:35
sebnerfta: how similar is the firefox linux code compared to the firefox windows code?22:36
ftathat part should be almost identical, if not entirely22:36
sebnerI still don't understand why it's working on windows then22:37
ftaseems we end up there: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/docshell/base/nsWebShell.cpp#117922:48
sebnerfta: DisplayError. ok. but why not on win?22:51
ftai don't know, yet22:52
ftait's late, i'll investigate later22:52
sebnerfta: thanks for your interest =)22:55
Volansnight :)23:04
sebnergn8 folks23:15

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