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Deepsbimberi: group membership is fine, am using "auth       sufficient pam_wheel.so trust group=admin" in pam.d/su at the moment instead of sudo00:25
Deepsthe "%admin ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL" is copy/paste from sudoers file00:25
Deepssudo -s, sudo -i, sudo su -, all prompt for user's password00:26
Deepssudo apt-get too00:26
Deepsnm, just added auth       sufficient pam_wheel.so trust group=admin to pam.d/sudo00:31
Deepssod sudoers file00:32
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kgoetzhi all. should open[vpn,ssl]-vulnkey give the same output? i have a vpn key that openvpn-vulnkey says is ok, but openssl-vulnkey says is compromised04:35
kgoetzwhich is annoying, and more then slightly worrying to me04:36
dave__good evening05:45
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uberG00beranyone in here a packaging guru05:46
uberG00beror know anything at all about packaging? lol05:46
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* delcoyote hi07:32
krautmoin08:02
Stonekeeperhi. Is there a way to find out the version of an updated package before installing it? thanks.08:42
blue-frogStonekeeper: apt-cache madison program or apt-cache show program08:46
Stonekeeperblue-frog: i thought that showed the installed version?08:49
sorenStonekeeper: Maybe "apt-get -s ..." is what you want?08:49
Stonekeepermadison looks interesting. i'll try -s08:50
Stonekeeperright, same info. ok thanks.08:51
blue-frogStonekeeper: shows all packages, try it you will see...08:51
Stonekeeperout of interest, i don't suppose you know of anyone who backports samba/ldap to 6.06.2 ?08:51
Stonekeeper3.0.24 is really old08:51
Stonekeeperhmm.. it appears i'm looking at feisty. bleargh. i'll check the dapper repos08:53
Stonekeeperblue-frog: thanks for your time.08:57
Kamping_Kaiserapt-cache policy?09:20
Kamping_Kaiseroh, its gone09:20
uvirtbot`New bug: #234926 in logwatch (main) "logwatch missing conf files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23492609:51
uvirtbot`New bug: #234927 in php5 (main) "delay php script execution on cli" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23492709:51
owhI'm experiencing an intermittent solid freeze on suspend of my Thinkpad running Gutsy. In order to locate the problem and locate/create an appropriate bug report I need to figure out a way to determine what is actually happening that might be causing this. Can anyone suggest any such methods?11:00
steph33560Hello11:04
steph33560 Does somebody else use virt-manager here ?11:04
owhsteph33560: You should ask your actual question.11:04
steph33560owh,  I would like to solve the error "Error starting domain: virDomainCreate() failed" when I launch my VM as non-root user11:05
steph33560my user is member of kvm and libvirtd11:06
steph33560on files, chown root:libvirtd is set, and chmod is  66011:06
owhI've not used virt-manager, but if it works as root and not as your user, my question would be: "After you added that user to those groups - assuming they are the correct ones - did you logout and back in again?"11:07
Koonsteph33560: make sure virtualization is enabled in your BIOS11:07
steph33560Koon, it is enable, and my processor is VMX compliant11:08
steph33560owh, I logged out many times... even reboot ;)11:08
steph33560owh, if you do not use virt--manager, what do you use ?11:08
owhWell, not having used virt-manager, my personal next step would be to use strace to see where it's failing.11:09
steph33560mmhh I've got the trace in the main program11:09
owhsteph33560: At present I'm using vmware, but that is under review.11:09
steph33560owh, we stopped using vmware since IOWait problems and time syncrhonisation pb when starting several VM on a same host11:10
steph33560here is the error : http://pastebin.com/d4c838a11:10
steph33560it's python...11:11
owhsteph33560: As I said, it's use is under review :)11:11
hadsTried using virsh?11:12
steph33560hads, that's the funny piece of the cake11:12
steph33560when starting with virsh as non root user, VM starts11:12
steph33560then using virt-manager as non-root displays the VM as shutdown...11:13
steph33560using virt-manager as root displays it running !11:13
owhsteph33560: So, it's a permissions issue.11:13
steph33560chmod is 660 on image file and description file11:14
owhsteph33560: Or it11:14
owhsteph33560: Or it11:14
owhcrap11:14
hads:)11:14
owhsteph33560: Or it's a bug.11:14
owhThe ' is next to my enter key :)11:14
hadsYup11:14
steph33560I thought it was permissions, but even with chown root:libvirt on image file and xml file, and with chmod 660 too, I've always got the same error11:15
hadsIf virsh works as non-root you must have permission11:16
owhsteph33560: It may not be on the image, it might be on a device node for example.11:16
hadsI'm not familiar enough with virt-manager to offer too much help though.11:16
owhhads: I'm in the same boat :)11:16
steph33560hads, i'm pretty as experienced as uou ;)11:16
steph33560s/uou/you/11:16
steph33560owh, device /dev/kvm ?11:17
steph33560owh, I've set it 660 and root:kvm11:17
owhsteph33560: May I suggest that you send an email to the ubuntu-server list as there are plenty of people who either wrote that code or know how it works. Depending on your local timezone, they might be around in about six or so hours - while I'm fast asleep :)11:17
steph33560good idea11:17
steph33560but ... i've submitted a bug 234938 @ bugs.launchpad.net.11:18
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 234938 in virt-manager "VM started with virsh but not marked started in virt-manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23493811:18
owhsteph33560: Well, that will achieve the same eventually :)11:18
simosxhi all11:18
steph33560owh,  :)11:18
steph33560hi simosx11:18
steph33560owh, hads, do you think my description is enough precise11:19
simosxi want to try out LTSP 5.0. I have Ubuntu 8.04 desktop. Would "apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone" do it for me?11:19
steph33560simosx, if your apt is up to date, no pb...11:20
steph33560simosx, even if, aptitude will ask you (negative score)11:20
steph33560simosx, verify your sources before ...11:20
hadsI'll take a look in a few minutes after LP loads for me :)11:20
simosxsteph33560: thanks. this means that I do not have to install ubuntu-server for the demonstration that I am preparing.11:21
steph33560simosx, are your talking about package linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-16-server ?11:23
owhI'm experiencing an intermittent solid freeze on suspend of my Thinkpad running Gutsy. In order to locate the problem and locate/create an appropriate bug report I need to figure out a way to determine what is actually happening that might be causing this. Can anyone suggest any such methods or a better place to ask this question?11:23
hadssteph33560: Looks like a fine description to me. The only difference I can see from mine with a cursory look is that I have a+r on the XML files11:23
hads(they are root:root)11:23
steph33560hads, thanks hads :)11:24
simosxsteph33560: there are two different Ubuntu ISOs, the desktop and the server. The server comes by default with things like nfs. sshd, ltsp, and so on. I would like to try out just LTSP, preferably on my current Desktop installation. I wonder whether apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone will pull in the necessary packages (I believe the kernel does not hurt to stay the same), or I need to handpick.11:27
steph33560simosx, since you want to install LTSP, try out mini distros11:27
steph33560install the minimal OS, then aptitude install ltsp11:27
steph33560even if you face problem laters, you'll be able to install the server using aptitude install linux-image-2.6.24-16-server11:28
steph33560s/laters/later/11:28
simosxI see.11:28
steph33560simosx, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD11:28
simosxI'll go for the Ubuntu Server installation on a fresh partition. It looks saner when I describe this at the training.11:31
hadsJust followed the libvirt Python but it goes down into a C module so not much for me to see.11:32
steph33560hads, I'm stucking on it too :-(11:33
AnRkeyfor some reason i can't connect via ssh from my ebox to any other ssh server11:50
AnRkeyscp and ssh11:50
AnRkeyssh just times out11:50
AnRkeycan anyone help?11:50
AnRkeyi have tried installing stuff via apt and i have tried ssh'ing in to other box's too. I can't find anything in the logs and I have disabled the firewall service in ebox.11:52
steph33560AnRkey, does netstat -ant points out a ssh listening socket ?12:25
* _ruben would use netstat -lnt instead when looking for listening sockets12:31
* hads uses -plant just because it spells a word12:32
_rubencombining l and a doesnt seem very useful to me though :)12:33
hadsNo it's not, but I like it anyway :)12:34
hadsl overrides a12:34
hadserm, other way round.12:34
bimberi<--  plunt12:46
AnRkeysteph33560, I cant ssh out12:50
AnRkeyssh in works fine12:50
AnRkeyi cant use apt-get either12:50
steph33560AnRkey,  don't understand ... you said you can't connect ...12:53
AnRkeyi can't connect to ssh servers from within the ebox server12:55
AnRkeyso when i am at the terminal of the ebox, i cant ssh out or use apt-get to install bits12:56
steph33560AnRkey, does this box have iptables rules ?12:56
hadsDo you have any network connection at all?12:56
AnRkeysteph33560, i think it's iptables that might be the problem12:56
_magneticAnRkey: you will have to add firewall rules to your eBox server12:56
AnRkey_magnetic, i think this is the answer yes. I think that even though I have disabled the firewall, some of the iptables rules are still there12:57
* AnRkey is checking12:57
_magneticAnRkey: if you have enabled the firewall module, it won't allow you to connect to external servers12:57
steph33560AnRkey, iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport ssh -i ppp0 -j ACCEPT12:57
steph33560AnRkey, iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --sport ssh -o ppp0 -j ACCEPT12:57
steph33560AnRkey, if connecting on port 22, of course12:57
_magneticAnRkey: it's pretty easy to add a firewall rule to allow connection to external stuff12:58
steph33560AnRkey, and if connecting throught ppp0... might be eth0 for you12:58
_magneticAnRkey: if you want to add rules to allow external connections go to Firewall->packet filter->Filtering rules for traffic coming out from eBox13:00
AnRkey_magnetic, this i know. My pickle is that the firewall was supposed to be disabled13:00
AnRkeyodd13:00
_magneticAnRkey: do you have any interface configured by dhcp?13:01
AnRkeynone, no13:01
_magneticAnRkey: weird, can you run this: /etc/init.d/ebox firewall stop ?13:01
AnRkeyok really odd... i enabled the firewall > added an any rule and accept for outgoing connections and it's fine13:01
AnRkeybut the firewall was off to begin with13:01
AnRkeyit's working now though...13:02
AnRkeybug?13:02
_magneticAnRkey: did you save changes when you disabled the firewall?13:02
AnRkeyyes13:02
AnRkeyi am going to disable it now to try and reproduce13:02
AnRkeythe fault :D13:02
_magnetic:D13:02
_magneticAnRkey: could you make sure you don't have any dhclient running?13:03
AnRkeyok13:04
AnRkeyhmm13:06
AnRkeyok firewall is off and it's still fine13:06
AnRkeybut i never removed that rule from the firewall section before i downed the firewall13:06
AnRkeyok, i took the any-any-outgoing rule out13:08
AnRkeyand then downed the fw13:08
_magneticok13:08
AnRkeyand it's scr3wed again13:08
_magneticAnRkey: try this13:08
_magnetic /etc/init.d/ebox firewall stop13:08
AnRkeythat worked13:09
AnRkeyso the fw is not stopping then?13:09
_magneticit looks like that13:09
_magneticplease, can you check if you have any dhclient running?13:09
AnRkeygonna search for a bug in lp13:09
_magneticjust to rule that out13:09
AnRkeyok13:09
AnRkey21720 ?        00:00:00 dhclient313:10
AnRkeymy interface eth0 is static though13:10
AnRkeyjust confirmed13:10
_magneticAnRkey: ok this a known bug then13:10
AnRkeyoh ok13:10
AnRkeynice to know13:11
AnRkeyi am doing research on a vm here13:11
_magneticin your /etc/network/interfaces you have that interface configured by dhcp13:11
AnRkeyworking all the kinks out13:11
AnRkeychecking13:11
AnRkeywtf?13:11
AnRkeyit is13:11
AnRkeybut then...13:11
AnRkeyhow13:12
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_magneticAnRkey: one sec13:12
_magneticAnRkey: that's something we have changed for the next eBox version 0.11.10013:13
_magneticAnRkey: basically: we didnt overwrite the /etc/network/interfaces, we wrote the conf in other file13:14
_magneticand that caused this kind of issues13:14
AnRkeyi c13:15
_magneticAnRkey: you have the new packages available in here http://ebox-platform.com/download/13:15
AnRkeywill the new version use the interfaces file?13:15
_magneticAnRkey: or you can just woraround your problem by modifying your /etc/network/interfaces13:15
AnRkeyok13:15
AnRkeywell it works fine as long as i leave the firewall on13:15
_magneticAnRkey: the new version already uses the normal interfaces file, and fixes that issue13:16
AnRkeyi can just add that any<>any<>outgoing rule13:16
AnRkeyok shweet13:16
AnRkeyi love the app so far13:16
AnRkeynice work13:16
_magneticthanks :)13:16
_magneticAnRkey: by the way there are more available packages which didn't make it to Hardy in our repos13:17
AnRkeyoh ok13:17
_magneticand i expect to release a new version in a few days13:17
AnRkeydo i add your repos to mine or do i replace mine with yours?13:17
AnRkeyshweet13:17
AnRkeyyou have a wiki page for the project?13:17
_magneticAnRkey: we use trac http://trac.ebox-platform.com13:18
AnRkeyok cool13:18
AnRkeygonna signup13:18
AnRkeyi live in a small town called george in south africa. So every1 that I have shown ebox to is excited about it13:19
_magneticand the developers usually hang out on #ebox , so feel free to ask stuff there too13:19
AnRkeyok shweet, thanks13:19
_magneticok13:19
_magneticgotta go now, i gotta install a eBox for a customer13:20
_magneticsee you later13:20
* AnRkey cried when webmin stopped working correctly in ubuntu13:20
AnRkeyciao13:20
geertnI noticed the installer was unable to install grub on my /dev/i2o/hdb device13:32
geertnanyone familiar with this story and should I file a bug?13:33
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zulmathiaz: I was thinking that patch you did for dovecot should really go upstream16:03
zulto dovecot16:04
sorenWhich one was that?16:04
mathiazzul: are you refering to the log message ?16:16
mathiazzul: I think so - I haven't checked if the upstream hg repository has already fixed it somehow.16:17
zulmathiaz: yes thats the one Im referring to16:18
macdafter setting my LVM volume active what is the device that I mount? /dev/lvm_volume doesnt work17:59
mathiazmacd: try to look into /dev/group_name/lv_name18:06
macdI used volume group name lvm1 but nothing in /dev/ seems to match18:06
macdmathiaz, vgscan finds the volume, as well as vgdisplay shows it18:07
macdbut I can't format it, or mount it18:07
macdmathiaz, ahh, figured it out, I didnt create the logical volume, only the physical partitions were added to the group18:10
macdI think I'll edit the help.ubuntu page to better reflect the steps18:14
ScottKmacd: Thank you for taking the time to improve the documentation.18:17
macdits only about the 100th time ;)18:20
macdbrb18:20
stefgI'd like to have a public (writable for guests) samba share on a 8.04 server running ebox. I'm facing 2 problems: 1.) actaully there's no use in manually editing smb.conf, b/c ebox will overwrite the change sooner or later. (For testing i added a share manually in smb.conf) 2.) win-clients can see the the share, but are unable to browse it (get passwd prompt). A hardy client can't even see...18:54
stefg...the share... the ebox docu is pretty sparse, anyone got a hint for me?18:54
zultry #ebox18:56
stefgah... there's an irc-channel? thanx18:57
Miguel`Hi, I wonder if there is a way to stop to annoying sound my server makes while running Folding@Home by not letting it write on the harddisk?19:37
kroghUse lsof or fuser to find out what files i actually touches..19:38
kroghand move them to a ram-filesystem.19:38
Miguel`Why don't they run it in ram as standard?19:43
kroghThat was one of the tough questions..19:46
kroghWhy did some other developer chose another implemetations plan.. Hmm...19:47
Deepslol19:51
DeepsMiguel`: you need to ask your hardware manufacturer why they made your disks so noiy19:52
Deepsnoisy*19:52
Miguel`It's an old PC :)19:52
Miguel`And I don't have the sound when, for example, copying huge files to my FTP19:52
Miguel`It sounds like a sharp beeping sound19:52
Jeeves_Miguel`: Probably lots of smal reads/writes19:56
Jeeves_Anyways, if the data isn't that important19:56
Jeeves_You can always create a driectory in /dev/shm/19:56
Miguel`The data is important19:56
Jeeves_Than you need te leave it on disk19:57
Jeeves_And buy another less noisy disk :)19:57
Miguel`It would require me to write a script that executes Folding@Home on the ram and when I close it, copy the files to hard disk19:57
Miguel`To much work for what it's worth19:57
kroghMiguel`: Well.. youre probably still paying quite alot for the extra power it uses.. anyway .. :-)19:58
Miguel`I just wanted to donate some CPU power to science, since it's a small home server (www,LAN,gameserver)19:59
opn6I want to install  ubuntu sever with the gui.  can i only use the gui when i need it? Or will it boot to the desktop by default???20:57
faulkes-you can turn off the gui starting by default by configuring when init loads it up21:13
faulkes-you can turn off the gui starting by default by configuring when init loads it up21:13
faulkes-just change /etc/rc3.d/S<number><servicename> to /etc/rc3.d/K<number><servicename> (and the same for rc4.d and rc5.d)21:14
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opn6thanks.. so much to learn.21:18
InsomniaCityfaulkes-: change? does ubuntu not have something like chkconfig?21:23
\shupdate-rc.d21:26
\shchkconfig is rpm stuff21:26
\shupdate-rc.d is debian21:26
\shinvoke-rc.d is debian too21:27
\shsysv-rc-conf is interactive21:28
\sh(needs to installed, is not available by default)21:28
fabianhowardis there any form of documentation for administering the mail server profile?22:57
mathiazfabianhoward: there is an email section in the Ubuntu server guide23:00
mathiazfabianhoward: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html23:00
fabianhowardmathiaz: thank you, but I can't find any documentation on what the mail server profile provides(from reading config it seems to include a mysql backend, but I've absolutely no idea how to add users etc?)23:02
mathiazfabianhoward: the mysql backend is not enabled by default.23:14
mathiazfabianhoward: postfix will use the system users.23:14
mathiazfabianhoward: /system users/local users/23:14
fabianhowardmathiaz: and dovecot will authenticate with pamd?23:25
* delcoyote hi23:29
fabianhowardhi23:31
uvirtbot`New bug: #235100 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "mysql got signal 11" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23510023:42
SwissPhoenixHi folks, is there already something implemented to get noticed if unattended-upgrades can't upgrade a package? Or do I have to do something on my own....?23:43

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